January 25, 2025 • 44 mins
Nicholas Alahverdian’s obituary appeared on a memorial site called Ever Loved. It detailed how the man, who grew up in foster care became a Harvard Graduate and a vocal critic of Rhode Island’s childcare system after suffering sexual abuse as a child. It also detailed how Alahverdian died of Hodgkin's Lymphoma at 32 years old, leaving behind a wife and two young children who remained at his bedside as he died.
Alahverdian’s death was a lie, an elaborate scheme created by Nicholas Rossi, a man charged with sexually assaulting a former girlfriend in Orem, Utah as well as multiple complaints against him in Rhode Island for alleged domestic violence. David Rossi, the stepfather says at an early age Nicholas would hit his mother, grandmother, and siblings, and wouldn't listen in school. Alahverdian was placed in psychiatric care.
Nicholas Alahverdian, using the name Rossi, was accused of assaulting a young woman he met at Sinclair Community College in Ohio. The two had lunch together. Alahverdian offered to walk the co-ed to her next class. The coed claims Alahverdian then pinned her against a wall in a basement, groped her, and masturbated.
Alahverdian apologized and asked the girl not to tell anybody. She made a police report and Alahverdian, aka Rossi, was convicted of public indecency and sexual imposition, and was required to register as a sex offender.
Two years later, police are called to an apartment in Rhode Island. Officers can hear arguing and screaming. When a woman comes to the door, she has marks on her face neck, and left eye and her right eye is swelling.
The woman tells police she and Alahverdian were arguing and when she tried to leave he slapped her in the face. Police arrest Alahverdian who proclaims his innocence and begins banging his head on the bars in the back of the squad car. Officers have to use pepper spray to make him stop trying to hurt himself. Alahverdian pleads no-contest to domestic simple assault.
Testing reveals Alahverdian's DNA is present in a rape case, and other allegations have already been lodged. Fraud charges also land in Alahverdian's lap, and this is when he fakes his death and heads overseas.
The death of Nicholas Alahverdian is met with skepticism. Alahverdian's foster mother Sharon Lane said she was contacted by Alahverdian's biological mother. The minute Sharon Lane read the obituary, she believed it was written by Alahverdian himself.
Utah authorities continued investigating the first rape allegation against Nicholas Alahverdian and issued a warrant for his arrest seven months after he supposedly died. An FBI search of Alahverdian’s iCloud account and cell phone records led investigators to Scotland.
As investigations were looking for Nicholas Alahverdian and Nichols Rossi in the United States, a man named Arthur Knight was being treated for Covid-19 at Queen Elizabeth University Hospital, Glasgow. He had been living a happy new life, married a woman named Miranda, and worked as a tutor, but then he suffered a serious case of pneumonitis, caused by Covid-19.
Someone recognized him through his distinctive tattoos. They were a match to those from a Pawtucket police booking photo of him. In December 2021, they arrested the convicted sex offender in the Glasgow hospital.
Authorities say Knight was just one of Alahverdian’s 16 known aliases, which include Nicholas Rossi, Nicholas Brown, Arthur Brown, and Arthur Knight-Brown.
Nicholas Alahverdian fought extradition back to the US. For over two years, Alahverdian exhausted every legal avenue available in the UK. Ultimately the courts ruled he was a wanted fugitive and agreed to the United States’ request to send him home. Rossi now set for trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a US citizen. Nicholas Rossi
allegedly faked his own death to avoid jail, as now
headed to trial after a plea deal has been withdrawn.
Remember Nicholas Rossi who flees to England and Ireland and
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fakes an Irish brogue to change his identity. Yeah, he's
charged of raping a twenty one year old woman and
a twenty six year old woman in Salt Lake the
very same year. He denies all charges. The so called
American Walter Midy fought extradition from the UK, is going
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on trial. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
you for being with us. That's right. The so called
American Walter Midy, who desperately fought extradition from the UK
home to the US is going on Prosecutors withdraw a
plea deal in Utah. I recall it like it was yesterday,
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and I guarantee you these are not the only two
rapes that will be tied back to Nicholas Rossy. Who
is this guy? Listen?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Nicholas Alaverdian's obituary appeared on a memorial site called ever Loved.
It detailed how the man who grew up in foster care,
became a Harvard graduate and a vocal critic of Rhode
Island's childcare system after suffering sexual abuse as a child.
It also detailed how Alaverdian died of Hodgkins lymphoma at
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thirty two years old, leaving behind a wife and two
young children who remained at his bedside as he died.
According to his wife, his last words were fear not
and run toward the bliss of the sun.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, well, I say to take that in hold on.
His last words were fear not and run toward the
bliss of the sun. Hold on, fear not and run
toward the bliss of the son. Well. When that O
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bit was published, immediately it was met with skepticism, including
by one of his own foster moms. Contacted by Alvartian's
biological mother. His own bio mother called the foster mom
and goes, hey, read this O bit. It sounds like
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he wrote it himself. Follow the bliss of the sun again.
Let me just say my rear end. Well, mother knows
best once again, doesn't she? So what more do we know?
Take a listen to our friend Dave Mackett crime online.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Nicholas Alaverdian's death was a lie, an elaborate scheme created
by Nicholas Rossi, a man charge who was sexually assaulting
a former girlfriend in or A Mutah, as well as
multiple complaints against him in Rhode Island for alleged domestic violence.
Nicholas Alaverdian was born the eldest of three children. His father,
who had convictions for domestic assault and selling cocaine, left
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the family three years later. According to The Providence Journal,
Alaverdian's mother, Diana, married David Rossi, an Engelbert humperting impersonator.
David Rossi, the stepfather, says at an early age, Nicholas
would hit his mother, grandmother, siblings, and wouldn't listen in school.
Ala Verdian was placed in psychiatric care where doctors diagnosed
him with narcissistic personality disorder and attention deficit disorder. After
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being discharged from the treatment program, Alaverdian was returned to
his family. Briefly, he created such conflict within the family
home he was placed into the care of dcyf. As
far as Alaverdian's claims of being a Harvard scholar, he
did study comparative literature in an extension program class offered
by Harvard University, but he did not graduate. He was
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administratively withdrawn from the course when the university learned of
his sex vendor status. After faking his death, Alaverdian headed oversea.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's so much information I'm drinking from the fire hydrant.
What I've written, first of all, to Jim White joining
us out of Providence, Rhode Island, investigative reporter and managing
editor w PRTV, that CBS affiliate, co author of The
Last Good Heist and professor journalism Roger Williams University. Tim White,
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first of all, critical, who is the Engelbert Humper Dick impersonator.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, that was his stepfather, whose name he adopted after
his mother remarried at the time. I mean, as you
could hear from his biography, he had an unconventional childhood
I think to put it mildly and lightly, including the
profession of his stepfather, and one in which he found
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himself in and out of the child welfare system here
in Rhode Island, where he alleged physical and mental abuse
while being under the state's custody.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
He's a liar, he is a narcissistic liar. So am
I supposed to believe that did that really happen? Maybe?
But maybe not? And I do know this isn't it true,
Jim White, that he would hit his mother and his grandmother.
Of course his siblings, he misbehaved in school, but hitting
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your own mom and your grandma, right.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That is what the stepfather alleged at the time, that
he was a tough kid who would fly off the handle.
And look, there is there are arrests for domestic violence
here in Rhode Island, where he was. He pled no
contest nolo contendre to charges that he was physical with
a girlfriend in a suburb of Providence. So there's definitely
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allegations and there's also a conviction of being physically violent
with people in his orbit.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Tim White, can I just clarify when you say he
was quote physical with a girlfriend, you mean he beat her?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Correct? Yeah? Okay? What about being a quote Harvard scholar.
They kicked him out of the program, which I'd like
to point out as an extension program, which means you're
an extended distance away from the school. But they Harvard
kicked him out when they found out he was a
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sex offender. Yeah, they did.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I mean, look, it's clear from the evidence that he
tried to exaggerate his resume when he was trying to
particularly when he was trying to push his agenda here
in Rhode Island with state lawmakers, a lot of them
who bought the story that he was selling. He was
trying to reform the state child welfare agency, and he
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would hold up this resume that he had that he
was a Harvard scholar and all that that was obviously
a lie. He didn't graduate from Harvard. He definitely pushed
the envelope on that one. And I think you bring
up an important question earlier. You wondered if the allegations
he made against the state child welfare agency were even legit.
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Now that lawsuit was dismissed, and it was dismissed because
as of many as you know, as many lawsuits are
dismissed because they were settled, and I believe he had
told family members it was settled for about seventy thousand dollars,
not a big not a big number. But the child
welfare agency denied any wrongdoing and set as part of
the agreement in the settlement that they did not admit
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to any wrongdoing. So I think you're right to question
whether or not the allegations he made against DCYF were
actually legitimate considering what we know now.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So I'm trying to figure out how Nicholas al Vernion
aka Nick Rossi ends up pretending to be an Irish
orphan in Scotland when he's got a slew of rape
allegations and violence allegations back in the US all the
way to orem Utah. But first of all he had
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to register as a sex offender listen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Nicholas Alaverdian, using the name Rossi, was accused of assaulting
a young woman he met at Sinclair Community College in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The two had lunch together.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Alaverdian offered to walk the co ed to her next class,
and she agreed. The co ed claims Alaverdian pinned her
against a wall in a basement, groped her, and masturbated.
Alaverdian apologized and asked the girl not to tell anybody.
She made a police report, and Alaverdian aka Rossi, was
convicted of public indecency and sexual imposition and was required
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to register as a sex offender.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
To Brett Brown, joining US Executive director of sasst GO
Surviving Assault, Standing Strong to eradicate abuse, trafficking and violence
against women, Brett, and thank you for being with us.
That's why a lot of women never go forward with
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rape or sex assault allegations. They almost universally somehow feel
like it's in some way their fault. Like this young
woman just twenty one was at Sinclair Community College and
she allowed him to walk her to her next class. Yes,
and I'm sure at some point felt well, that's my
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fault because I let them want me to class. It's
not her fault. And I think it got off really
lightly on that.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I totally agree. We see women universally as survivors feeling
obligated to be nice and to be kind, and when
they do that and they are then abused or assaulted,
they blame themselves because they feel like they gave them permission.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
To behave that way. And then if you are angry
about it, then you're a quote man hater and you're
frigid and you're cold because you don't like to be assaulted.
And it makes me wonder, Brett Brown, if that was
his demo at the time, how many other women never
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came forward?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yes, because what he did was brazen and while in
a relatively private space in the building, in a public
space during the day, he was very emboldened at this point.
So I would think there are probably many women who
have not come forward.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I mean, the reality is, isn't this true, Brett Brown?
Everyone would be very surprised to find out who that
they know has been molested or sex assaulted and have
never breathed a word of it.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Absolutely, we see it all the time across the country.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace death faker Nicholas Rossy was
sent back to the US after a very lengthy court
battle where he claimed to be an Irish orphan named
Arthur Knight who had never set foot in the United States.
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Here in the US, he's accused of raping a twenty
one year old woman and raping a twenty six year
old woman in Salt Lake the very same year. He
denies it all the Irish orphan living in Scotland who
faked his own death, And then as bio mom reads
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his obit and goes, uh, uh, he's not dead. He
wrote this. I guarantee you he wrote this. You know
that reminds me of let me go out to Greg
Algren joining us out of Laredo, international lawyer at disruis
dot com. Greg, do you remember, of course you do,
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the unibomber who wrote the huge manifesto thousands and thousands
of words and insisted that it be published. I guess
it was in the New York Times and his brother
read it and went, wait, that's take as Insky. That's
my brother. I know who wrote that, and his own
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ridiculous manifesto gave a way that he's a unibomber and
his take is Insky.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
I see some parallels for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
This guy writes his oh bit it is biommeos. I
know he ain't dead, He's alive.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Shocking.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Why is it that so often criminals give themselves away
in this manner.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It's that narcissistic, tension seeking personality they have.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
It's their fatal weakness.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Hey, Greg Augrin, are you a psychologist as well as
a lawyer, because I hear you throwing around psychological disorders?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No? I'm not either, But I know what narcissism means
because I actually had to teach well, I wanted to
teach Greek and Roman mythology while I was waiting to
find out if I was going to get into law school.
And everyone knows about narcissus, but we just so happened
to have a forensic psychologist with us, author of Dark Sides,
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doctor Jeff Kalshewski, Doctor Jeff, what is a narcissist? I mean,
I know Greg Augrin is correct, but explain that narcissus
saw his image in a pool of water, fell in
love with himself, didn't notice anything else around him, anything
or anyone, and finally was trying to get to himself
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and fell in the water and died.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Wow, we only have an hour to talk about narcissism.
Crime hit me and hit me hard on ROSSI Oh boy,
So again, how many times do we talk about some
of these criminals, and particularly when we do programs on
murderers where narcissism ends up being the flaw that trips
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them up again, we could talk about this for days.
I need to put a video on my YouTube channel
on forensic psychology about narcissism and murders. Because narcissists think
that they're more brilliant than anyone else. Narcissists believe that
what they do is right, and they have typically absolutely
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no insight into what they're doing others may judge as inappropriate, wrong,
or that they might get caught. They are the center
of the universe and what they do is right, and
that the world does not appreciate that and actually sanctions
them arrests them is just unfathomable. You know, in the
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early days, when they began to write about narcissism in
the psychiatric literature, they they actually initially called it a
psychosis because the people that were writing about just could
not believe that people who were so narcissistic didn't even
recognize that their ideas about themselves in the world were
flawed and they were really not consistent with the reality
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around them, So they started to talk about it initially
as a psychosis.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know who I think was a narcissist is a narcissist,
doctor Kalischewski. And I almost hate to bring his name up,
but he's the poster boy for so many things that
are all wrong. Scott Peterson, Oh, yeah, did you know
I was going to say that, because I mean, granted,
some people, not me, of course, think he's attractive. I
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think he looks like the devil. But that said, he
has this beautiful wife Lacey. She's expecting their first baby
around Christmas, so he naturally goes and has sex affairs,
not just one, but many, and then lies about it,
kills her, and tries to pretend that he was in
Brussels and no, it was Paris, France on New Year's
Eve with his friend Pierre and Jacques. Yeah, and the lying.
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And when he went on the run after dyeing his
hair blonde, that's certainly not a felony. He had a
bunch of I think it was condoms in viagra. He
needed that to go on the run. I mean, everything
was about him and what would suit him and his desires,
and it cost the life of Lacy and her unborn child.
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Connor would that be indicative of narcissism, Doctor Jeff Kelschewski.
Speaker 9 (16:39):
Right, narcissism and lying. So narcissists, they in a sense
believe their own lives, and they can't even fathom the
idea that other people would not believe their lives. How
many times have we looked at these cases and these
allies are just so egregious and so odd that any
rational person would know their lives. But to the narcissist,
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they can't even fathom the idea that you would think
they're lying.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
How dare you? How dare you not believe I'm an
Irish orphan, not a sex predator, even though my DNA
matches up to a rank kid. But that said, let's
plow forward. I mean an Irish orphan, as I always
like to say, being part Irish. If you're lucky enough
to be Irish, you lucky enough. But this guy is
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neither an orphan nor Irish, and he ends up in
Scotland under a different name, adamantly denying that he is
Nicholas Alverdian. Okay, let me get us back on t
track after leading you out in the weeds, take a
listen to this.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Two years later, police are called to an apartment in
Rhode Island by the friend of a woman involved in
a relationship with Nicholas Alaverdian. When police arrive, they hear
arguing and screaming. When the woman comes to the door,
she has marks on her face and neck and left eye,
and her right eye is swelling. The woman tells police
she and Olivertian were arguing and when she tried to leave,
he slapped her in the face. Police arrest Olivertian, who
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proclaims his innocence and begins banging his head on the
bars in the back of the squad car. Officers have
to use pepper spray to make him stop trying to
hurt himself. Alivertian pleads no contest to domestic simple assault.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You know, anybody on this panel please jump in. But
let's see Tim White, do you have children?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I do.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Has one ever thrown a fit? You know on TV?
You see them lying in the floor and their tommy
kicking and screaming. You ever seen that? Has any of
your children ever had a fit?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, they're keen now, But when they were toddlers that yeah,
sure that would happen.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Okay, well whenever. They didn't do it very often, but
the very few times, I think, maybe only once, each
one of them had a quote fit as we call
it down South. And I didn't spank them with yell
of them. I just stood there and watched them. With Lucy,
I actually started laughing because when she finished her fit
in the floor, she poked her lips out like you would.
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I've never seen lips poke out that far, as my
grandmother would say, you're poking your lips out so far,
I could plan a road with turnips on him. Yeah. So,
and that set me into laughter, which you're not supposed
to do when a child throws a fit, because that
infuriates them further to be laughed at. But this is
what he's doing. He gets in the back. First of all,
he has an argument with the friend of the woman
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that he's dating because she's not agreeing with everything he says,
and he beats her. He beats her, and then when
police show up and put him in the squad car,
he throws a fit and starts banging his head. I
think I would have just let him bang his head
for Pete's sake, but they stopped him with pepper spray,
and he pleads, this is what I hate, Tim White,
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No contest, as you said earlier, nolo contender to that.
In other words, I didn't I'm not saying I did it,
and I'm not saying I didn't do it. I'm just
not contesting it, and I'll take my punishment. And so
remember what's critical to me right here, Tim White, is
this is two years after he pushes this woman against
the wall in the basement, gropes her private pars and
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in masturbates class all the way. Keep it classy, Rassi.
Now he's beating up a woman who is known to
him just two years later. I don't know what he's
done in the meantime, but now there's that.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Look, he had a pattern of we know, violent behavior,
particularly against women, and at the time that that arrest happened,
we now know there were other allegations against him. I'm
sure you'll get to in Utah. And just to bring
up something you said earlier, he made the rape correct, well,
two rapes in Utah, and then there was you know,
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of course the sexual assault you already talked about in Ohio,
but court documents that were unsealed in Utah now giving
us a lens into other allegations that had happened in
four other states. We already talked about Ohio, Utah, Massachusetts,
Rhode Island of you know, people accusing him of a
pattern of sexual assault, and in the court documents that
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even talked about kidnapping. So those haven't been adjudicated. There
are two charges out of Utah, there's a conviction out
of Ohio. You talk about the conviction in Patucket, but
clearly investigators are looking at other allegations that are happening.
And there's even one in we didn't even talk about
the one in the UK. They were investigating an allegation
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of sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Okay, hold on, I now realize I've got to make
a list. Okay, Tim White, I'm going to have to
make a list. Okay, We've got a right allegation in UK,
We've got Utah or Utah, we have Pawtucket. Okay, what else?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
So you have the conviction in Ohio that you talked
about quite a bit, And there are two charges out
of Utah, one out of Utah County in one out
of Salt Lake City County.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And we're learning that a woman has just come forward
claiming that two years earlier she was assaulted by Alvertian
aka Nick Rossi, the Irish orphan, when she was just eighteen.
But hold on, let's plow forward because I can't wait
to get to him claiming he's an Irish orphan in
Scotland and pretending he's not Alvertian. So he's got the
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masturbating on the woman. Now he's got the beating of
the girlfriend's friend and showing out in the cop car.
But somehow he managed to get a wife, okay, listen.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Nicholas Olivertian married in November of twenty ten. His wife
filed for divorce six months later and filed a police
report saying she had a restraining order against him, but
Olivertian wouldn't leave her alone and repeatedly called her police
initiate an arrest warrant for violation of a protection order.
Olivertian's second marriage lasted one month longer than his first,
with his second wife filing for divorce after seven months.
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A temporary restraining order against Olavertian is put in place,
but at court rules, he violated it when he took
all the household items and furnishings out of the marital residence.
The Providence General reported Alaverdian owed his ex wife fifty
two thousand dollars what a.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Horse's rear end. There's a lot of other Latin phrases
for that, like jack. But not only does he be
the woman, it's his second wife to follow tro against him.
But then he takes all the furniture and high household
items when he leaves. He's like take that. He takes
all the stuff after he scares the woman out of
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her skin. I mean, it never ends with this guy. Hey,
Docter Jeff Kalshewski. So many crimes result from a tumultuous relationship,
and the parties always blame each other when you have
so many people pointing the finger at you, as I
love to argue, the jury's all these women are lying
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and Alverdi is the only one telling the truth. He's
got two wives, one foster divorce after six months, one
after seven months, staying power. You've got women claiming rape, assault,
masturbating on them what they're all lying except for him,
Doctor Jeff Kelschewski.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Right again, we're talking about this whole narcissistic aspect of
this person. We're talking about likely a personality disorder. And
they actually again they sort of believe their own lives
and the mass conspiracy of all these women from all
old I no.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay, look, I know you're educated in this and I
am totally ignorant, but let me just go ahead and
argue with you anyway. I think he knows he's lying.
I don't think he believes it's for one minute. I
think his front is that he's angry other people won't
believe his lies because he's got all his bases covered.
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Like oj Simpson, what I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Think you're out of something. He might he might know
he's lying, And again, like you said, be angry that
other people can't accept what he says is believed, even
if he knows it's a lie himself.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So here he goes. He's also a deadbeat not paying
the Why that he owes all that money to you
for stealing the furniture, He just skips town. He leaves
Ohio and moves to your jurisdiction, Tim White, Rhode Island.
But the beat goes on. Take a listen to Sidney
Sumner Crime Online.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
In twenty seventeen, the Bureau of Justice Assistance the BGA
awarded the Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice over two
million dollars for Utah to process the backlog of untested
sexual assault kits in the state. In twenty eighteen, one
of the Utah kits that was originally filed in two
thousand and eight was tested and matched Nicholas Olivertian's DNA
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from the two thousand and eight Ohio sexual assault case.
A sealed arrest warrant was issued in September twenty twenty
for Nicholas Rossi Aliverdian, But that's not all the police
were looking at him for. The FBI was investigating him
for fraud. One of Alavertian's foster parents, Sharon Lane, notified
authorities that Alaverdian opened up twenty two different credit cards
in her husband's name and ring up nearly two hundred
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thousand dollars in debt.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
What is it with this guy? What about it? Tim? What?
That's a lot of money? Two hundred thousand dollars in
debt afterly opens up credit cards with somebody else's name.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, it's a lot of money. I mean, look, he
is and that's not the only one you've already touched
on another in which he allegedly owed in exife fifty
two thousand dollars. There's been other allegations of financial fraud
by Rossi or Alaverdian, whatever name you want to choose,
that he goes by at the time. And look, I
think it all feeds to what doctor Jeff was talking
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about earlier in the program, sort of this narcissism that
it's him against the world, He's the victim in all
these cases. That's the type of image that he has
always portrayed when he again thrust himself into the spotlight
here in Rhode Island to accuse the child welfare agency
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of wrongdoing over all that time, and we saw it
firsthand as reporters when he allegedly died, the news agencies
weren't running the oh bit because there's old saying in journalism, Nancy,
if your mother says she loves you, check it out.
And this was something that you have to do when
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you're looking into the allegation that this semi high profile
figure in this market had died. And we started getting
very angry emails from someone claiming to be his wife,
saying that we're dishonoring his memory by not blah blah blah.
And it's clear to us now that that was more
likely than not Alabertian emailing us.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Directly pretending to be the wife. I mean, this guy,
I'm telling you, and very shortly, I'm going to bring
you on a special guest. Or Brandt, who travels the world,
is basically a bounty hunter. He doesn't like that term,
but he's with the US Marshall Service senior inspector and
he can tell you anything you want to know about
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bringing people just like Nick Rossi aka Alavertian home. Now, okay,
we dropped off with me. There's so many places to
drop off. He just charged the quarter million dollars on
one of his foster mom's husband's credit card. Thanks mom,
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But that's not really the worst of it. Listen to
Nicole Parton at Crime Stories.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
In the meantime, Alavertian continued his sex assault ways. He
met a twenty six year old woman online identified only
as the initials MS. They dated for two months.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
She loaned him money, but he didn't pay it back.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
MS says he locked her in the bedroom, forced himself
on top of her, and raped her. Utah authorities now
say Alaverdian also raped his twenty one year old former
girlfriend in Orum, Utah in the same year with the
same method. He promised to repay money, lured the woman,
who has not been named by authorities back to his
apartment and raped her.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Similar actually not similar fingerprint crimes, same modus operandim method
of operation. And I find it really interesting. And I'm
sure that Greg Algrin, high profile lawyer joining us out
of Laredo, we'll want to weigh in on this. Earlier
we heard from investigator reporter Sidney Sumner that the Justice
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Bureau awarded two million dollars to process old rape kits.
There were just on the shelf and there wasn't enough
time or money to process them all to catch the
purpse with DNA. It reminds me of Eliza Fletcher, the
Memphis mom who went out jogging early in the morning.
(30:15):
She was raped and murdered by a rapist Kleiotha Abstin.
And in that case, there was a rape kit just
sitting on the shelf. It had not been analyzed. Everybody
blames the crime lab, but the crime lab can only
work X number of hours. They need more people and
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more money to keep up with all the rape kits
and the crimes. But instead we're spending the taxpayers money
doing so many other things. That's a whole other can
of worms. But if Kleiotha Abston had been behind bars
as he should have been on a rape then Eliza
Fletcher would be alive with her children right now. But no,
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the good news out of this is because of that
two million dollar grant, this guy Nick Rossi aka Alaverdian's
DNA pops up. He is the rapist. According to diox Saravo,
Niklake ascid. In the meantime, We've got two more sex
assault victims, rape victims, same m O. But then what happens?
(31:24):
Take a listen to Dave mac.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
The death of Nicholas Olivertian was met with skepticism by
those in law enforcement, and in July of twenty twenty,
the Rhode Island State Police opened an investigation. As the
investigation began, Olivertian's foster mother, Sharon Lane, said she was
contacted by Aliverdian's biological mother who asked her to check
out the obituary. The minute Sharon Lane read the obituary
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with all of the adulatory comments, she believed he was
written by Olivertian himself and that he faked his death.
Utah authorities continued investigating the first rape allegation against Nicholas
Olivertian and issued a warrant for his arrest. Months after
he supposedly died.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Nicholas Rossi appeared via prison
video link. Now set for trial in the Salt Lake
County case in April the Oram case in September. Rossi,
whose legal name is actually Nicholas Alaverdian has used multiple aliases,
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of course, the one claiming he's an Irish orphan named
Arthur Knight. Dear Gravey, it never ends with this guy.
Rossi actually grew up in foster homes in Rhode Island
and he returned to Rhode Island before faking his death
and fleeing the US. An obituary was published online claiming
he died of late stage non Hodgkins lymphoma. OH. At
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the time, his former foster family doubted he really died.
Then he was arrested in Scotland after he was recognized
at the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow. He was
there getting treated for COVID nineteen. What more do we
know about the alleged rapes? Erv Brant, Senior Inspector, US
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Marshall Service International Investigations, Chief Inspector DOJ, Office of International Affairs,
author of Solo Shot, Curse of the Bluestone and Flying Solo,
Top of the World. It's about His books are about
this character, the swashbuckling character Jack Solo, who has a
(33:43):
striking similarity to Erv Brandt. So RV Brandt. It's not
good when seven months after you quote Die that an
arrestaurant is issued for you.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
No, Nancy, it's not good. A very good investigation by
multiple jurisdictions and that led to finding Aliverdian in Scotland.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And it's really amazing the way that they find him.
I want you to take a listen to Sidney Sumner
Crime online.
Speaker 10 (34:14):
As investigators were looking for Nicholas Alavertian and Nicholas Rossi
in the United States, a man named Arthur Knight was
being treated for COVID nineteen at Queen Elizabeth University Hospital
in Glasglow.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
He had been living a happy new life.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Married a woman named Miranda, and he worked as a tutor,
but then he suffered a serious case of numanitis caused
by COVID nineteen. Someone recognized him through his distinctive tattoos.
They were a match to those from a Pawtucket police
booking photo of him. In December twenty twenty one, they
arrested the convicted sex offender in the Glasglow hospital, where
he lay critically ill. With COVID authority say Knight was
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just one of Aliverdian's sixteen known aliases, which include Nicholas Rossi,
Nicholas Brown, Arthur Brown, and Arthur Knight Brown. He was
identified through fingerprints and DNA, as well as an analysis
of his distinctive tattoos.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, to you, Tim White, joining us from w p
R I t V. What is the distinctive tattoo?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well, actually, I was looking at some of those pictures
just getting ready for this interview, and he has some
tattoos on his arm that you know, I'm going to
call up some of the pictures here, so I going
to describe him. But he had tattoos on his arms
that you know, they're they're very distinct.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh my goodness, I'm looking at them. It looks like
some kind of a bizarre coat of arms with the
sun coming up over the coat of arms and giant wings,
I mean they go. It's almost a full sleeve. And
on the other arm it looks something like a navy anchor.
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He's covered.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
The anchor is a symbol of Rhode Island. It's on
our state flag.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Here.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I suspect that's probably White. He has an on there.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh Okay, Now, of course, with all of these distinctive tattoos,
that's one way to put it. And sixteen known aliases.
Of course, Greg Augrin, high profile lawyer out of loreto.
I love nothing more when the prosecutor reads the indictment
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to the jury and reads off the witnesses to make
sure none of them are related or know the witnesses.
I love it when the whole front page of the
indictment is a listing of the defendants aliases aka Alverdian
aka Nicholas Brown aka Author Brown aka author Knight. I mean,
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because nobody on the jury is going to have an alias,
just a defendant.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Yeah, that's a very prejudicial Obviously, this guy is a
serial con man, experienced criminal.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It gives a jury a horrible impression, but it's true.
And you have to read off all the eliases to
the jury in case they know him under some fake name.
So it's a necessity of the law. But when ladies,
when you meet a guy that a wants money in
b has an alias, and I'll just throw this in
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there has a second cell phone, run for the hills
as if you had seen a monster. So to you,
irv Brant, how did they track this guy down? And
of course he wouldn't waive extradition. He insisted he was
an Irish orphan and challenged authorities to prove he wasn't.
So how do you tackle something like that?
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Or brant Well, Nincia. It's in the UK. It's very complicated.
They have an extensive appeals system.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Just a second, anywhere the lawyers have to wear, including women,
a white wig on their head. I would say, it's complicated,
but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Okay, you're right it is. And he maintained the whole
time that authorities had the wrong individual, even though he
was confronted with DNA evidence, fingerprints, the distinctive tattoos. His
defense was always that's not me. So he contested the
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identity part of the extradition all the way through the
appeal process, until finally the Crown decided that it is
indeed the same person wanted in the United States, and
the Crown issued a surrender warrant to the Office of
International Affairs in the US Marshal Service conducted the extradition.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
How are they typically brought back from overseas.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Well, Typically they would be brought back on a commercial flight.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I mean with paying customers like myself and my children.
I don't know this guy sitting behind me.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Well, the marshals would take up a whole role, and
they would take the last row and the do.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Ever say snakes on a plane?
Speaker 9 (39:01):
Man?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Think about it, right.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
The marshals would either normally go be the first one
insta board and they would take him to the very
last row and there would be marshals on both sides
of them, and he wouldn't be allowed to get up
during the flight. But in a case like this, this
lunatic is not going to get on a commercial flight.
He's going to fake a medical emergency. The flight crew
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would not let him on the flight. So what the
Marshall Service did, and this is typical of cases of
this nature, is they would charter a flight and in
the charter, in the bid for the charter, the flight
crew would have medical personnel and then also the Marshall
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Service have deputies trained EMTs that they would put on
that extradition to bring him back and they would fly
him from the UK to the East Coast to the
United States, normally someplace like bangor Maine to go through
CBP where they would file the parole letter to get
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him back into the country Custom Border Protection. It's going
through immigration, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm sorry, I see why bangor well the.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Jets that they would we're going to have to refuel
after a trans atlantic flight. Bangor is one of the
closest you go further up the East Coast instead of
New York or someplace, or you know, Atlanta, one of
those international airports. You go as far north as you
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can because it's the shortest route to the United Kingdom.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So wait a minute. He faked an ailment and tried
not to get on the plane.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Well, he faked ailments in the past and court appearances.
He'd faked illnesses, and the Marshall Service knows this. Know
trying to put him on a commercial flight would be
a waste of time because when they brought him to
the gateway, he's gone to fake an illness and the
flight crew won't let him on the flight. So to
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get around that, they were charted the flight fly to
the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I can't believe my taxpayer's money is going to fly
this guy. How I'm on a charter flight, But I'd
rather do that than have him on a plane with
children and innocent, innocent civilians. This guy shot to fame.
I'll just call him Nick Rossi, although that's certainly not
his name. After he wildly gestured when he insisted he
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was innocent, so much so that he fogged up his
own glasses. So Greg Algrin, international lawyer, joining US out
of Texas. How do you fight extradition when DNA not
just fingerprints, but DNA also proves it's you not an
Irish orphan living in Scotland, you're a rapist in multiple
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US jurisdictions.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Yeah, that's difficult. So it seems like there's no question
here as the individual they're looking for. I mean there
are obviously, you know, there are technicalities that have to
be followed, procedural formalities.
Speaker 8 (42:20):
And so if you were defense counsel in an extradition matter,
you know, you would argue that the different due process
protocols hadn't been complied with. You could also argue that
there was a discrepancy in the criminal law systems between
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the two different jurisdictions that made the crimes incompatible.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I'm looking right now at Nicholas Rossi, Nicholas Rossi with
air quotes, insisting that he cannot breathe properly or walk,
and he has now put an oxygen mask on his
face and he is actually fogging up his classes as
he vhemently denies being Alverdian and his wife on video
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overpowers him and forces him to sit back down because
he is so ill, all bets are off. The latest
blow for an alleged rapist who faked his own death
and fled the country. US fusionive Nicholas Rossi set to
go on trial for allegedly faking his own death and
fleeing the country to avoid rape charges. The plea deal
(43:32):
is withdrawn. Currently facing two rate charges in the US.
Extradited from Scotland following a very lengthy process where he
claimed to be an Irish orphan. Remember he's facing those
sex assault charges in Rhode Island, Ohio and Massachusetts. I
can tell you this, fingerprints don't lie. His fingerprints matched.
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Nicholas Rossi sought by police for multiple crimes but reported dead.
US fugitive Nicholas Rossi set for trial after allegedly faking
his own death, fleeing the country to avoid rape charges,
and having his plead negotiation withdrawn. Gee, I wonder why
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we wait? As justice and false goodbye
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a US citizen. Nicholas Rossi
allegedly faked his own death to avoid jail, as now
headed to trial after a plea deal has been withdrawn.
Remember Nicholas Rossi who flees to England and Ireland and
(00:24):
fakes an Irish brogue to change his identity. Yeah, he's
charged of raping a twenty one year old woman and
a twenty six year old woman in Salt Lake the
very same year. He denies all charges. The so called
American Walter Midy fought extradition from the UK, is going
(00:46):
on trial. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
you for being with us. That's right. The so called
American Walter Midy, who desperately fought extradition from the UK
home to the US is going on Prosecutors withdraw a
plea deal in Utah. I recall it like it was yesterday,
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and I guarantee you these are not the only two
rapes that will be tied back to Nicholas Rossy. Who
is this guy? Listen?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Nicholas Alaverdian's obituary appeared on a memorial site called ever Loved.
It detailed how the man who grew up in foster care,
became a Harvard graduate and a vocal critic of Rhode
Island's childcare system after suffering sexual abuse as a child.
It also detailed how Alaverdian died of Hodgkins lymphoma at
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thirty two years old, leaving behind a wife and two
young children who remained at his bedside as he died.
According to his wife, his last words were fear not
and run toward the bliss of the sun.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, well, I say to take that in hold on.
His last words were fear not and run toward the
bliss of the sun. Hold on, fear not and run
toward the bliss of the son. Well. When that O
(02:10):
bit was published, immediately it was met with skepticism, including
by one of his own foster moms. Contacted by Alvartian's
biological mother. His own bio mother called the foster mom
and goes, hey, read this O bit. It sounds like
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he wrote it himself. Follow the bliss of the sun again.
Let me just say my rear end. Well, mother knows
best once again, doesn't she? So what more do we know?
Take a listen to our friend Dave Mackett crime online.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Nicholas Alaverdian's death was a lie, an elaborate scheme created
by Nicholas Rossi, a man charge who was sexually assaulting
a former girlfriend in or A Mutah, as well as
multiple complaints against him in Rhode Island for alleged domestic violence.
Nicholas Alaverdian was born the eldest of three children. His father,
who had convictions for domestic assault and selling cocaine, left
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the family three years later. According to The Providence Journal,
Alaverdian's mother, Diana, married David Rossi, an Engelbert humperting impersonator.
David Rossi, the stepfather, says at an early age, Nicholas
would hit his mother, grandmother, siblings, and wouldn't listen in school.
Ala Verdian was placed in psychiatric care where doctors diagnosed
him with narcissistic personality disorder and attention deficit disorder. After
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being discharged from the treatment program, Alaverdian was returned to
his family. Briefly, he created such conflict within the family
home he was placed into the care of dcyf. As
far as Alaverdian's claims of being a Harvard scholar, he
did study comparative literature in an extension program class offered
by Harvard University, but he did not graduate. He was
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administratively withdrawn from the course when the university learned of
his sex vendor status. After faking his death, Alaverdian headed oversea.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's so much information I'm drinking from the fire hydrant.
What I've written, first of all, to Jim White joining
us out of Providence, Rhode Island, investigative reporter and managing
editor w PRTV, that CBS affiliate, co author of The
Last Good Heist and professor journalism Roger Williams University. Tim White,
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first of all, critical, who is the Engelbert Humper Dick impersonator.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, that was his stepfather, whose name he adopted after
his mother remarried at the time. I mean, as you
could hear from his biography, he had an unconventional childhood
I think to put it mildly and lightly, including the
profession of his stepfather, and one in which he found
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himself in and out of the child welfare system here
in Rhode Island, where he alleged physical and mental abuse
while being under the state's custody.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
He's a liar, he is a narcissistic liar. So am
I supposed to believe that did that really happen? Maybe?
But maybe not? And I do know this isn't it true,
Jim White, that he would hit his mother and his grandmother.
Of course his siblings, he misbehaved in school, but hitting
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your own mom and your grandma, right.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That is what the stepfather alleged at the time, that
he was a tough kid who would fly off the handle.
And look, there is there are arrests for domestic violence
here in Rhode Island, where he was. He pled no
contest nolo contendre to charges that he was physical with
a girlfriend in a suburb of Providence. So there's definitely
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allegations and there's also a conviction of being physically violent
with people in his orbit.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Tim White, can I just clarify when you say he
was quote physical with a girlfriend, you mean he beat her?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Correct? Yeah? Okay? What about being a quote Harvard scholar.
They kicked him out of the program, which I'd like
to point out as an extension program, which means you're
an extended distance away from the school. But they Harvard
kicked him out when they found out he was a
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sex offender. Yeah, they did.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I mean, look, it's clear from the evidence that he
tried to exaggerate his resume when he was trying to
particularly when he was trying to push his agenda here
in Rhode Island with state lawmakers, a lot of them
who bought the story that he was selling. He was
trying to reform the state child welfare agency, and he
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would hold up this resume that he had that he
was a Harvard scholar and all that that was obviously
a lie. He didn't graduate from Harvard. He definitely pushed
the envelope on that one. And I think you bring
up an important question earlier. You wondered if the allegations
he made against the state child welfare agency were even legit.
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Now that lawsuit was dismissed, and it was dismissed because
as of many as you know, as many lawsuits are
dismissed because they were settled, and I believe he had
told family members it was settled for about seventy thousand dollars,
not a big not a big number. But the child
welfare agency denied any wrongdoing and set as part of
the agreement in the settlement that they did not admit
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to any wrongdoing. So I think you're right to question
whether or not the allegations he made against DCYF were
actually legitimate considering what we know now.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So I'm trying to figure out how Nicholas al Vernion
aka Nick Rossi ends up pretending to be an Irish
orphan in Scotland when he's got a slew of rape
allegations and violence allegations back in the US all the
way to orem Utah. But first of all he had
(08:08):
to register as a sex offender listen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Nicholas Alaverdian, using the name Rossi, was accused of assaulting
a young woman he met at Sinclair Community College in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The two had lunch together.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Alaverdian offered to walk the co ed to her next class,
and she agreed. The co ed claims Alaverdian pinned her
against a wall in a basement, groped her, and masturbated.
Alaverdian apologized and asked the girl not to tell anybody.
She made a police report, and Alaverdian aka Rossi, was
convicted of public indecency and sexual imposition and was required
(08:43):
to register as a sex offender.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
To Brett Brown, joining US Executive director of sasst GO
Surviving Assault, Standing Strong to eradicate abuse, trafficking and violence
against women, Brett, and thank you for being with us.
That's why a lot of women never go forward with
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rape or sex assault allegations. They almost universally somehow feel
like it's in some way their fault. Like this young
woman just twenty one was at Sinclair Community College and
she allowed him to walk her to her next class. Yes,
and I'm sure at some point felt well, that's my
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fault because I let them want me to class. It's
not her fault. And I think it got off really
lightly on that.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I totally agree. We see women universally as survivors feeling
obligated to be nice and to be kind, and when
they do that and they are then abused or assaulted,
they blame themselves because they feel like they gave them permission.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
To behave that way. And then if you are angry
about it, then you're a quote man hater and you're
frigid and you're cold because you don't like to be assaulted.
And it makes me wonder, Brett Brown, if that was
his demo at the time, how many other women never
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came forward?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yes, because what he did was brazen and while in
a relatively private space in the building, in a public
space during the day, he was very emboldened at this point.
So I would think there are probably many women who
have not come forward.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I mean, the reality is, isn't this true, Brett Brown?
Everyone would be very surprised to find out who that
they know has been molested or sex assaulted and have
never breathed a word of it.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Absolutely, we see it all the time across the country.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Crime stories with Nancy Grace death faker Nicholas Rossy was
sent back to the US after a very lengthy court
battle where he claimed to be an Irish orphan named
Arthur Knight who had never set foot in the United States.
(11:13):
Here in the US, he's accused of raping a twenty
one year old woman and raping a twenty six year
old woman in Salt Lake the very same year. He
denies it all the Irish orphan living in Scotland who
faked his own death, And then as bio mom reads
(11:35):
his obit and goes, uh, uh, he's not dead. He
wrote this. I guarantee you he wrote this. You know
that reminds me of let me go out to Greg
Algren joining us out of Laredo, international lawyer at disruis
dot com. Greg, do you remember, of course you do,
(11:57):
the unibomber who wrote the huge manifesto thousands and thousands
of words and insisted that it be published. I guess
it was in the New York Times and his brother
read it and went, wait, that's take as Insky. That's
my brother. I know who wrote that, and his own
(12:19):
ridiculous manifesto gave a way that he's a unibomber and
his take is Insky.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
I see some parallels for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
This guy writes his oh bit it is biommeos. I
know he ain't dead, He's alive.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Shocking.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Why is it that so often criminals give themselves away
in this manner.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It's that narcissistic, tension seeking personality they have.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
It's their fatal weakness.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Hey, Greg Augrin, are you a psychologist as well as
a lawyer, because I hear you throwing around psychological disorders?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No? I'm not either, But I know what narcissism means
because I actually had to teach well, I wanted to
teach Greek and Roman mythology while I was waiting to
find out if I was going to get into law school.
And everyone knows about narcissus, but we just so happened
to have a forensic psychologist with us, author of Dark Sides,
(13:22):
doctor Jeff Kalshewski, Doctor Jeff, what is a narcissist? I mean,
I know Greg Augrin is correct, but explain that narcissus
saw his image in a pool of water, fell in
love with himself, didn't notice anything else around him, anything
or anyone, and finally was trying to get to himself
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and fell in the water and died.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Wow, we only have an hour to talk about narcissism.
Crime hit me and hit me hard on ROSSI Oh boy,
So again, how many times do we talk about some
of these criminals, and particularly when we do programs on
murderers where narcissism ends up being the flaw that trips
(14:07):
them up again, we could talk about this for days.
I need to put a video on my YouTube channel
on forensic psychology about narcissism and murders. Because narcissists think
that they're more brilliant than anyone else. Narcissists believe that
what they do is right, and they have typically absolutely
(14:30):
no insight into what they're doing others may judge as inappropriate, wrong,
or that they might get caught. They are the center
of the universe and what they do is right, and
that the world does not appreciate that and actually sanctions
them arrests them is just unfathomable. You know, in the
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early days, when they began to write about narcissism in
the psychiatric literature, they they actually initially called it a
psychosis because the people that were writing about just could
not believe that people who were so narcissistic didn't even
recognize that their ideas about themselves in the world were
flawed and they were really not consistent with the reality
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around them, So they started to talk about it initially
as a psychosis.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know who I think was a narcissist is a narcissist,
doctor Kalischewski. And I almost hate to bring his name up,
but he's the poster boy for so many things that
are all wrong. Scott Peterson, Oh, yeah, did you know
I was going to say that, because I mean, granted,
some people, not me, of course, think he's attractive. I
(15:43):
think he looks like the devil. But that said, he
has this beautiful wife Lacey. She's expecting their first baby
around Christmas, so he naturally goes and has sex affairs,
not just one, but many, and then lies about it,
kills her, and tries to pretend that he was in
Brussels and no, it was Paris, France on New Year's
Eve with his friend Pierre and Jacques. Yeah, and the lying.
(16:08):
And when he went on the run after dyeing his
hair blonde, that's certainly not a felony. He had a
bunch of I think it was condoms in viagra. He
needed that to go on the run. I mean, everything
was about him and what would suit him and his desires,
and it cost the life of Lacy and her unborn child.
(16:32):
Connor would that be indicative of narcissism, Doctor Jeff Kelschewski.
Speaker 9 (16:39):
Right, narcissism and lying. So narcissists, they in a sense
believe their own lives, and they can't even fathom the
idea that other people would not believe their lives. How
many times have we looked at these cases and these
allies are just so egregious and so odd that any
rational person would know their lives. But to the narcissist,
(17:02):
they can't even fathom the idea that you would think
they're lying.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
How dare you? How dare you not believe I'm an
Irish orphan, not a sex predator, even though my DNA
matches up to a rank kid. But that said, let's
plow forward. I mean an Irish orphan, as I always
like to say, being part Irish. If you're lucky enough
to be Irish, you lucky enough. But this guy is
(17:28):
neither an orphan nor Irish, and he ends up in
Scotland under a different name, adamantly denying that he is
Nicholas Alverdian. Okay, let me get us back on t
track after leading you out in the weeds, take a
listen to this.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Two years later, police are called to an apartment in
Rhode Island by the friend of a woman involved in
a relationship with Nicholas Alaverdian. When police arrive, they hear
arguing and screaming. When the woman comes to the door,
she has marks on her face and neck and left eye,
and her right eye is swelling. The woman tells police
she and Olivertian were arguing and when she tried to leave,
he slapped her in the face. Police arrest Olivertian, who
(18:08):
proclaims his innocence and begins banging his head on the
bars in the back of the squad car. Officers have
to use pepper spray to make him stop trying to
hurt himself. Alivertian pleads no contest to domestic simple assault.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You know, anybody on this panel please jump in. But
let's see Tim White, do you have children?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I do.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Has one ever thrown a fit? You know on TV?
You see them lying in the floor and their tommy
kicking and screaming. You ever seen that? Has any of
your children ever had a fit?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, they're keen now, But when they were toddlers that yeah,
sure that would happen.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Okay, well whenever. They didn't do it very often, but
the very few times, I think, maybe only once, each
one of them had a quote fit as we call
it down South. And I didn't spank them with yell
of them. I just stood there and watched them. With Lucy,
I actually started laughing because when she finished her fit
in the floor, she poked her lips out like you would.
(19:04):
I've never seen lips poke out that far, as my
grandmother would say, you're poking your lips out so far,
I could plan a road with turnips on him. Yeah. So,
and that set me into laughter, which you're not supposed
to do when a child throws a fit, because that
infuriates them further to be laughed at. But this is
what he's doing. He gets in the back. First of all,
he has an argument with the friend of the woman
(19:26):
that he's dating because she's not agreeing with everything he says,
and he beats her. He beats her, and then when
police show up and put him in the squad car,
he throws a fit and starts banging his head. I
think I would have just let him bang his head
for Pete's sake, but they stopped him with pepper spray,
and he pleads, this is what I hate, Tim White,
(19:46):
No contest, as you said earlier, nolo contender to that.
In other words, I didn't I'm not saying I did it,
and I'm not saying I didn't do it. I'm just
not contesting it, and I'll take my punishment. And so
remember what's critical to me right here, Tim White, is
this is two years after he pushes this woman against
the wall in the basement, gropes her private pars and
(20:10):
in masturbates class all the way. Keep it classy, Rassi.
Now he's beating up a woman who is known to
him just two years later. I don't know what he's
done in the meantime, but now there's that.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Look, he had a pattern of we know, violent behavior,
particularly against women, and at the time that that arrest happened,
we now know there were other allegations against him. I'm
sure you'll get to in Utah. And just to bring
up something you said earlier, he made the rape correct, well,
two rapes in Utah, and then there was you know,
(20:48):
of course the sexual assault you already talked about in Ohio,
but court documents that were unsealed in Utah now giving
us a lens into other allegations that had happened in
four other states. We already talked about Ohio, Utah, Massachusetts,
Rhode Island of you know, people accusing him of a
pattern of sexual assault, and in the court documents that
(21:11):
even talked about kidnapping. So those haven't been adjudicated. There
are two charges out of Utah, there's a conviction out
of Ohio. You talk about the conviction in Patucket, but
clearly investigators are looking at other allegations that are happening.
And there's even one in we didn't even talk about
the one in the UK. They were investigating an allegation
(21:33):
of sexual assault.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Okay, hold on, I now realize I've got to make
a list. Okay, Tim White, I'm going to have to
make a list. Okay, We've got a right allegation in UK,
We've got Utah or Utah, we have Pawtucket. Okay, what else?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
So you have the conviction in Ohio that you talked
about quite a bit, And there are two charges out
of Utah, one out of Utah County in one out
of Salt Lake City County.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And we're learning that a woman has just come forward
claiming that two years earlier she was assaulted by Alvertian
aka Nick Rossi, the Irish orphan, when she was just eighteen.
But hold on, let's plow forward because I can't wait
to get to him claiming he's an Irish orphan in
Scotland and pretending he's not Alvertian. So he's got the
(22:27):
masturbating on the woman. Now he's got the beating of
the girlfriend's friend and showing out in the cop car.
But somehow he managed to get a wife, okay, listen.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Nicholas Olivertian married in November of twenty ten. His wife
filed for divorce six months later and filed a police
report saying she had a restraining order against him, but
Olivertian wouldn't leave her alone and repeatedly called her police
initiate an arrest warrant for violation of a protection order.
Olivertian's second marriage lasted one month longer than his first,
with his second wife filing for divorce after seven months.
(23:05):
A temporary restraining order against Olavertian is put in place,
but at court rules, he violated it when he took
all the household items and furnishings out of the marital residence.
The Providence General reported Alaverdian owed his ex wife fifty
two thousand dollars what a.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Horse's rear end. There's a lot of other Latin phrases
for that, like jack. But not only does he be
the woman, it's his second wife to follow tro against him.
But then he takes all the furniture and high household
items when he leaves. He's like take that. He takes
all the stuff after he scares the woman out of
(23:44):
her skin. I mean, it never ends with this guy. Hey,
Docter Jeff Kalshewski. So many crimes result from a tumultuous relationship,
and the parties always blame each other when you have
so many people pointing the finger at you, as I
love to argue, the jury's all these women are lying
(24:08):
and Alverdi is the only one telling the truth. He's
got two wives, one foster divorce after six months, one
after seven months, staying power. You've got women claiming rape, assault,
masturbating on them what they're all lying except for him,
Doctor Jeff Kelschewski.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Right again, we're talking about this whole narcissistic aspect of
this person. We're talking about likely a personality disorder. And
they actually again they sort of believe their own lives
and the mass conspiracy of all these women from all
old I no.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay, look, I know you're educated in this and I
am totally ignorant, but let me just go ahead and
argue with you anyway. I think he knows he's lying.
I don't think he believes it's for one minute. I
think his front is that he's angry other people won't
believe his lies because he's got all his bases covered.
(25:07):
Like oj Simpson, what I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Think you're out of something. He might he might know
he's lying, And again, like you said, be angry that
other people can't accept what he says is believed, even
if he knows it's a lie himself.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So here he goes. He's also a deadbeat not paying
the Why that he owes all that money to you
for stealing the furniture, He just skips town. He leaves
Ohio and moves to your jurisdiction, Tim White, Rhode Island.
But the beat goes on. Take a listen to Sidney
Sumner Crime Online.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
In twenty seventeen, the Bureau of Justice Assistance the BGA
awarded the Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice over two
million dollars for Utah to process the backlog of untested
sexual assault kits in the state. In twenty eighteen, one
of the Utah kits that was originally filed in two
thousand and eight was tested and matched Nicholas Olivertian's DNA
(26:02):
from the two thousand and eight Ohio sexual assault case.
A sealed arrest warrant was issued in September twenty twenty
for Nicholas Rossi Aliverdian, But that's not all the police
were looking at him for. The FBI was investigating him
for fraud. One of Alavertian's foster parents, Sharon Lane, notified
authorities that Alaverdian opened up twenty two different credit cards
in her husband's name and ring up nearly two hundred
(26:24):
thousand dollars in debt.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
What is it with this guy? What about it? Tim? What?
That's a lot of money? Two hundred thousand dollars in
debt afterly opens up credit cards with somebody else's name.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, it's a lot of money. I mean, look, he
is and that's not the only one you've already touched
on another in which he allegedly owed in exife fifty
two thousand dollars. There's been other allegations of financial fraud
by Rossi or Alaverdian, whatever name you want to choose,
that he goes by at the time. And look, I
think it all feeds to what doctor Jeff was talking
(27:01):
about earlier in the program, sort of this narcissism that
it's him against the world, He's the victim in all
these cases. That's the type of image that he has
always portrayed when he again thrust himself into the spotlight
here in Rhode Island to accuse the child welfare agency
(27:22):
of wrongdoing over all that time, and we saw it
firsthand as reporters when he allegedly died, the news agencies
weren't running the oh bit because there's old saying in journalism, Nancy,
if your mother says she loves you, check it out.
And this was something that you have to do when
(27:42):
you're looking into the allegation that this semi high profile
figure in this market had died. And we started getting
very angry emails from someone claiming to be his wife,
saying that we're dishonoring his memory by not blah blah blah.
And it's clear to us now that that was more
likely than not Alabertian emailing us.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Directly pretending to be the wife. I mean, this guy,
I'm telling you, and very shortly, I'm going to bring
you on a special guest. Or Brandt, who travels the world,
is basically a bounty hunter. He doesn't like that term,
but he's with the US Marshall Service senior inspector and
he can tell you anything you want to know about
(28:24):
bringing people just like Nick Rossi aka Alavertian home. Now, okay,
we dropped off with me. There's so many places to
drop off. He just charged the quarter million dollars on
one of his foster mom's husband's credit card. Thanks mom,
(28:47):
But that's not really the worst of it. Listen to
Nicole Parton at Crime Stories.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
In the meantime, Alavertian continued his sex assault ways. He
met a twenty six year old woman online identified only
as the initials MS. They dated for two months.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
She loaned him money, but he didn't pay it back.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
MS says he locked her in the bedroom, forced himself
on top of her, and raped her. Utah authorities now
say Alaverdian also raped his twenty one year old former
girlfriend in Orum, Utah in the same year with the
same method. He promised to repay money, lured the woman,
who has not been named by authorities back to his
apartment and raped her.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Similar actually not similar fingerprint crimes, same modus operandim method
of operation. And I find it really interesting. And I'm
sure that Greg Algrin, high profile lawyer joining us out
of Laredo, we'll want to weigh in on this. Earlier
we heard from investigator reporter Sidney Sumner that the Justice
(29:52):
Bureau awarded two million dollars to process old rape kits.
There were just on the shelf and there wasn't enough
time or money to process them all to catch the
purpse with DNA. It reminds me of Eliza Fletcher, the
Memphis mom who went out jogging early in the morning.
(30:15):
She was raped and murdered by a rapist Kleiotha Abstin.
And in that case, there was a rape kit just
sitting on the shelf. It had not been analyzed. Everybody
blames the crime lab, but the crime lab can only
work X number of hours. They need more people and
(30:35):
more money to keep up with all the rape kits
and the crimes. But instead we're spending the taxpayers money
doing so many other things. That's a whole other can
of worms. But if Kleiotha Abston had been behind bars
as he should have been on a rape then Eliza
Fletcher would be alive with her children right now. But no,
(30:58):
the good news out of this is because of that
two million dollar grant, this guy Nick Rossi aka Alaverdian's
DNA pops up. He is the rapist. According to diox Saravo,
Niklake ascid. In the meantime, We've got two more sex
assault victims, rape victims, same m O. But then what happens?
(31:24):
Take a listen to Dave mac.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
The death of Nicholas Olivertian was met with skepticism by
those in law enforcement, and in July of twenty twenty,
the Rhode Island State Police opened an investigation. As the
investigation began, Olivertian's foster mother, Sharon Lane, said she was
contacted by Aliverdian's biological mother who asked her to check
out the obituary. The minute Sharon Lane read the obituary
(31:46):
with all of the adulatory comments, she believed he was
written by Olivertian himself and that he faked his death.
Utah authorities continued investigating the first rape allegation against Nicholas
Olivertian and issued a warrant for his arrest. Months after
he supposedly died.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Nicholas Rossi appeared via prison
video link. Now set for trial in the Salt Lake
County case in April the Oram case in September. Rossi,
whose legal name is actually Nicholas Alaverdian has used multiple aliases,
(32:31):
of course, the one claiming he's an Irish orphan named
Arthur Knight. Dear Gravey, it never ends with this guy.
Rossi actually grew up in foster homes in Rhode Island
and he returned to Rhode Island before faking his death
and fleeing the US. An obituary was published online claiming
he died of late stage non Hodgkins lymphoma. OH. At
(32:56):
the time, his former foster family doubted he really died.
Then he was arrested in Scotland after he was recognized
at the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow. He was
there getting treated for COVID nineteen. What more do we
know about the alleged rapes? Erv Brant, Senior Inspector, US
(33:20):
Marshall Service International Investigations, Chief Inspector DOJ, Office of International Affairs,
author of Solo Shot, Curse of the Bluestone and Flying Solo,
Top of the World. It's about His books are about
this character, the swashbuckling character Jack Solo, who has a
(33:43):
striking similarity to Erv Brandt. So RV Brandt. It's not
good when seven months after you quote Die that an
arrestaurant is issued for you.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
No, Nancy, it's not good. A very good investigation by
multiple jurisdictions and that led to finding Aliverdian in Scotland.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And it's really amazing the way that they find him.
I want you to take a listen to Sidney Sumner
Crime online.
Speaker 10 (34:14):
As investigators were looking for Nicholas Alavertian and Nicholas Rossi
in the United States, a man named Arthur Knight was
being treated for COVID nineteen at Queen Elizabeth University Hospital
in Glasglow.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
He had been living a happy new life.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Married a woman named Miranda, and he worked as a tutor,
but then he suffered a serious case of numanitis caused
by COVID nineteen. Someone recognized him through his distinctive tattoos.
They were a match to those from a Pawtucket police
booking photo of him. In December twenty twenty one, they
arrested the convicted sex offender in the Glasglow hospital, where
he lay critically ill. With COVID authority say Knight was
(34:50):
just one of Aliverdian's sixteen known aliases, which include Nicholas Rossi,
Nicholas Brown, Arthur Brown, and Arthur Knight Brown. He was
identified through fingerprints and DNA, as well as an analysis
of his distinctive tattoos.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, to you, Tim White, joining us from w p
R I t V. What is the distinctive tattoo?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well, actually, I was looking at some of those pictures
just getting ready for this interview, and he has some
tattoos on his arm that you know, I'm going to
call up some of the pictures here, so I going
to describe him. But he had tattoos on his arms
that you know, they're they're very distinct.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh my goodness, I'm looking at them. It looks like
some kind of a bizarre coat of arms with the
sun coming up over the coat of arms and giant wings,
I mean they go. It's almost a full sleeve. And
on the other arm it looks something like a navy anchor.
(35:50):
He's covered.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
The anchor is a symbol of Rhode Island. It's on
our state flag.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Here.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I suspect that's probably White. He has an on there.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh Okay, Now, of course, with all of these distinctive tattoos,
that's one way to put it. And sixteen known aliases.
Of course, Greg Augrin, high profile lawyer out of loreto.
I love nothing more when the prosecutor reads the indictment
(36:20):
to the jury and reads off the witnesses to make
sure none of them are related or know the witnesses.
I love it when the whole front page of the
indictment is a listing of the defendants aliases aka Alverdian
aka Nicholas Brown aka Author Brown aka author Knight. I mean,
(36:42):
because nobody on the jury is going to have an alias,
just a defendant.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Yeah, that's a very prejudicial Obviously, this guy is a
serial con man, experienced criminal.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It gives a jury a horrible impression, but it's true.
And you have to read off all the eliases to
the jury in case they know him under some fake name.
So it's a necessity of the law. But when ladies,
when you meet a guy that a wants money in
b has an alias, and I'll just throw this in
(37:17):
there has a second cell phone, run for the hills
as if you had seen a monster. So to you,
irv Brant, how did they track this guy down? And
of course he wouldn't waive extradition. He insisted he was
an Irish orphan and challenged authorities to prove he wasn't.
So how do you tackle something like that?
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Or brant Well, Nincia. It's in the UK. It's very complicated.
They have an extensive appeals system.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Just a second, anywhere the lawyers have to wear, including women,
a white wig on their head. I would say, it's complicated,
but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Okay, you're right it is. And he maintained the whole
time that authorities had the wrong individual, even though he
was confronted with DNA evidence, fingerprints, the distinctive tattoos. His
defense was always that's not me. So he contested the
(38:19):
identity part of the extradition all the way through the
appeal process, until finally the Crown decided that it is
indeed the same person wanted in the United States, and
the Crown issued a surrender warrant to the Office of
International Affairs in the US Marshal Service conducted the extradition.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
How are they typically brought back from overseas.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Well, Typically they would be brought back on a commercial flight.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I mean with paying customers like myself and my children.
I don't know this guy sitting behind me.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Well, the marshals would take up a whole role, and
they would take the last row and the do.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Ever say snakes on a plane?
Speaker 9 (39:01):
Man?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Think about it, right.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
The marshals would either normally go be the first one
insta board and they would take him to the very
last row and there would be marshals on both sides
of them, and he wouldn't be allowed to get up
during the flight. But in a case like this, this
lunatic is not going to get on a commercial flight.
He's going to fake a medical emergency. The flight crew
(39:27):
would not let him on the flight. So what the
Marshall Service did, and this is typical of cases of
this nature, is they would charter a flight and in
the charter, in the bid for the charter, the flight
crew would have medical personnel and then also the Marshall
(39:47):
Service have deputies trained EMTs that they would put on
that extradition to bring him back and they would fly
him from the UK to the East Coast to the
United States, normally someplace like bangor Maine to go through
CBP where they would file the parole letter to get
(40:09):
him back into the country Custom Border Protection. It's going
through immigration, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm sorry, I see why bangor well the.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Jets that they would we're going to have to refuel
after a trans atlantic flight. Bangor is one of the
closest you go further up the East Coast instead of
New York or someplace, or you know, Atlanta, one of
those international airports. You go as far north as you
(40:42):
can because it's the shortest route to the United Kingdom.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So wait a minute. He faked an ailment and tried
not to get on the plane.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Well, he faked ailments in the past and court appearances.
He'd faked illnesses, and the Marshall Service knows this. Know
trying to put him on a commercial flight would be
a waste of time because when they brought him to
the gateway, he's gone to fake an illness and the
flight crew won't let him on the flight. So to
(41:13):
get around that, they were charted the flight fly to
the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I can't believe my taxpayer's money is going to fly
this guy. How I'm on a charter flight, But I'd
rather do that than have him on a plane with
children and innocent, innocent civilians. This guy shot to fame.
I'll just call him Nick Rossi, although that's certainly not
his name. After he wildly gestured when he insisted he
(41:42):
was innocent, so much so that he fogged up his
own glasses. So Greg Algrin, international lawyer, joining US out
of Texas. How do you fight extradition when DNA not
just fingerprints, but DNA also proves it's you not an
Irish orphan living in Scotland, you're a rapist in multiple
(42:05):
US jurisdictions.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Yeah, that's difficult. So it seems like there's no question
here as the individual they're looking for. I mean there
are obviously, you know, there are technicalities that have to
be followed, procedural formalities.
Speaker 8 (42:20):
And so if you were defense counsel in an extradition matter,
you know, you would argue that the different due process
protocols hadn't been complied with. You could also argue that
there was a discrepancy in the criminal law systems between
(42:42):
the two different jurisdictions that made the crimes incompatible.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I'm looking right now at Nicholas Rossi, Nicholas Rossi with
air quotes, insisting that he cannot breathe properly or walk,
and he has now put an oxygen mask on his
face and he is actually fogging up his classes as
he vhemently denies being Alverdian and his wife on video
(43:10):
overpowers him and forces him to sit back down because
he is so ill, all bets are off. The latest
blow for an alleged rapist who faked his own death
and fled the country. US fusionive Nicholas Rossi set to
go on trial for allegedly faking his own death and
fleeing the country to avoid rape charges. The plea deal
(43:32):
is withdrawn. Currently facing two rate charges in the US.
Extradited from Scotland following a very lengthy process where he
claimed to be an Irish orphan. Remember he's facing those
sex assault charges in Rhode Island, Ohio and Massachusetts. I
can tell you this, fingerprints don't lie. His fingerprints matched.
(43:56):
Nicholas Rossi sought by police for multiple crimes but reported dead.
US fugitive Nicholas Rossi set for trial after allegedly faking
his own death, fleeing the country to avoid rape charges,
and having his plead negotiation withdrawn. Gee, I wonder why
(44:17):
we wait? As justice and false goodbye
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