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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is absolutely, so so good to be back. You know,
I'm really really excited for this next chapter of Culture
Raises Us. And today I have one of our new
partners in the building who's helping to kind of bring
this to life, and Terrence Williams of Inflection Point Entertainment
is one of the partners and visionaries behind this multifaceted
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media company that's committed to telling the stories of the
people that need to see and hear them, stories that
spotlight the people that deserve to be seen and heard,
and stories that are created and told by.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The people who see them best.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You know, I first want to sincerely, sincerely, you know,
thank you for believing in this platform and me and
I know God's hands have been all over this partnership
since day one of us building with you, and before
you share your thoughts, I'm going to treat you like
anyone else who sits in that seat and start off
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with that of our signature question.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So when you hear culture, what does that mean to you?
Rush right?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's such a big word. I think that it is
culture to me is the world and environment around us
and how it impacts who we are and how we
move in the world and vice versa, how we impact
the world and how we make the world move around
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us and around our circles. And so I think there's
there's so many elements and pieces of life that create culture,
and in a beautiful sort of circle of life, there's
so many ways that culture creates our world. And so
it's culture is really this beautiful circle of the way
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that our lives move and operate and grow and change.
And I think that that growth and change are are
the keys to.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Happiness and successful life life period.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know, So tell the people about Inflection Point entertainment
and then a little bit as to why culture raises
us being a part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, I mean, so firstly, I just want to say
thank you to you for entrusting us with being your
partner in this process, Like this is a beautiful, uh
platform and conversation that you obviously started before bringing it
to Inflection Point. And you know, with us, we are
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we still consider ourselves a nascent company, and we are
in a lot of ways, like a lot of other people,
kind of figuring it out as we go. And so
for you to have built this thing and have this
baby and entrusted it to us, it's something that I truly, truly,
we truly appreciate and and and we don't take for granted.
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So firstly, you know, I wanted to say that I
think that you said something earlier that's really at the
heart of kind of who we are and what we
want to be as a company as inflection point, and
it's really we just want to work with great people
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who have great stories to tell. And you know, from
the first time that that you and I sat down
and had a conversation, it was immediate like we you know,
we just we connected on.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
It. Just it felt like we connected in a.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Way that was beyond just like, oh, this sounds like
a cool project. You know, there was there was there
was a real connection there. And so for us and
for me, that's really really key to the type of
things and projects that we want to work on, things
that we feel like mean some and things that we
feel like give to the world, add to the culture,
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talk about the culture or culture in general, and we
want to do it with people that we enjoy doing
it with. Like work is hard, no matter what you do, right,
and so it's like I would rather do it with
people that I enjoy doing it with.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So you know and whatever comes from that, Like I
can be happy.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
With because I know that I did it with somebody
that I enjoyed, and I enjoyed the process.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
All we have is the All we have is the process.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
There's no way to tell, especially in this kind of stuff,
especially in anything sort of creative, subjectively subjective, good or bad.
Who's to say, you know, this notion of quality and
what's what's good and what's not good and all of
this kind of stuff is it's so subjective, Like we
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could do a whole episode on you know, the ways
that various cultures have informed what we decide is good
or not good.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's right, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So for me it's it's it's like the only thing
we have is the moment that we're actually living in,
what we're actually doing and who we're doing it with.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know how. You know how tough that is, though
as easy as it sounds.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you know, I think on this often because I
think we're so programmed to think about the things in
the future, right, to think about the things that are
coming up, the things we want to do, aspire to do,
or the things that we know we have to do,
and it kind of takes away from us staying in
the moment and truly living the beauty of the moment.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And so I'm so glad that you you put it
that way in terms of the appreciation for this moment,
Like the right now is.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
There is like every every project that I've ever worked on,
every set that I've ever gone to, and I've had
the opportunity to say it, Like the first thing I
say on day one is, you know, to everybody there is, Look,
we don't know what's going to come out of this.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Maybe it's good, maybe it's bad.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Maybe a whole bunch of people watch it or listen
to it, maybe nobody watches or listen to. All of
that is hypothetical. The only thing that's real is this
moment right now. The only thing that we know for
sure is how we can make each other feel right now.
The rest of it like you just have to leave
up to you know, whatever fate or you know, the
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the world has to say about Like you can't control that.
And so you know that's I heard this. I watched
one of my favorite interviews that I've ever watched. I've
probably watched this twenty times now, was an interview this
French interview that Orson Wells did, and it was amazing, beautiful.
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But there's this one clip in particular that like I
send to most people that I work with most friends.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And the interviewers ask or so else.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
He says, have you ever worked with a friend or
have you ever hired a friend for a role? He
said absolutely I have? He said, have you ever regretted it?
He said absolutely I have? He said, well, would you
do it again? He said absolutely I would because I
value friendship and loyalty and the experience greater than the
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romantic conception of art. And he goes, well, is there
some times where maybe there's a better person for the role?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, but would you so you wouldn't hire that person? No?
Do you think the project would be better if you did? Probably?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, don't you think that's don't you think that's a detriment,
A detriment to who, a detriment to art. Maybe, But
I've already told you I don't prioritize the romantic conception
of art, and so it's not a detriment for me
because I get to work with the people that I
want to work with and so and the guy was so,
you know, what about the posterity of your of your works,
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like to hell with posterity, He says, yes, I've already
answered that question for you. And it's incredible to me
on a number of levels. One the surety that he
had in sticking to the priorities that he knewetic and
you juxtapose that with the fact that this is Orson
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Welles saying this who ultimately probably made one of the
greatest contributions to the film industry as any film creator
like Citizen Kane is by most accounts, regarded as a
top one or two influential film in the canon of filmmaking.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And I think what it showed me is that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
The most important thing if you want something to be great,
if you want something to be impactful, if you want
something to be whatever is authenticity, like being true to
who you are to the things that you care about.
That's what's ultimately, I think, going to create the greatest change,
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whether it's in you know, to whatever culture that you're
that you're trying to give to.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Right. So, yeah, listen, it's a great clip.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No, and you got to send it to me, by
the way.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I absolutely will. I'm saying to you today.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
For me again, I love how you capture the the
power and of being in the moment right and truly
living in it, galvanizing around it, all the things you know,
as you mentioned we both mentioned earlier in all of
our conversations leading up to this, it felt right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But I have a story for you that I never shared.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know, there was a key moment of confirmation for me,
and I was actually going to church down in La
I went to a church service where the pastor was
literally talking about the church and we as a people
in general are at an inflection point.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I can't make this up. No, no, it was wild,
he said, an inflection.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Point and the three key points that he drove And
this was recently and I've been sitting on this for
a while, but this, this for me was like the
You're in the right place, You're with the right people,
this is the time. The three key things he drove
home where the first one was we are at a
crucial transition leading to new opportunities or rapid growth was
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the first. The second was there are people assigned to
your sound. You must be yourself so people can find you.
And then the third one he says, you need to
connect your voice to the Lord so that you are
in the right spaces where the Lord has blessed your steps.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
No, no, dude.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And then he closed and said, we are spiraling up.
Is the season we are in. So I'm looking at
you and then everybody can't see you right now. But
that's the moment I had. I was like, God, I
hear you, and I'm continuing to walk in that now. Granted,
does it look like what I thought this would have
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looked like? How many plans don't look like what you
thought it would look like? And I think that's the
beauty of the journey and the process right going through it.
And this journey for me has been a total reflection
of that. While you have an image of what something
should be, you can't walk away from it if it
doesn't look like that vision on day one, Right, you
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need to put the pieces together to kind of get
you started and build towards your vision, which in many
cases ends up exceeding the vision you had in the
first place.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, now that the idea of journey is First of all,
that's an incredible story.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Thank you for saying.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Just mind blowing, And it's just more confirmation of right,
this is this is.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Supposed to be exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But I've been, you know, the last couple of days,
the concept and thought about the journey has really been
something that I've been thinking a lot about. And I've
had a lot of like you talk about things not
looking the way that you expected them to. The last
like eighteen months, year and a half of life has
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just not looked at all like what I anticipated. I
had my own my own health issues, like my partner
has stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
That he's dealing with.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
My dad ends up passing away unexpectedly in July.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I've got a two year old son who just turned three.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Like all of these things, I'm like, this is not
what I thought this would look like right now.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And so I'm in New York.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Had a couple of meetings and stuff, but I got
into a couple of days early and I'm like, I
just want to just like think right. And so staying
with a dear friend in in Soho. And I got
up yesterday and I said to myself, I've never done
this before. And you're you're familiar with New York. Obviously
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you're from New York. I'm down like in between like
Soho and Tribeca. So I'm like deep, like deep downtown,
and I was like, I've never done this before.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Sunday.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I don't have anything to do. I don't want to
I don't want to see anybody. I want to take
a journey. And I'm gonna journey from from Soho to
Harlem Walk. I'm gonna I'm gonna walk the city right.
And I turned my watch on to record my outdoor
walk so I can so I can record my exercise.
And I'm walking and I stopped to get some pa.
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I stopped at like one of my favorite pizza spots,
like a mile into the walk, get a slice of pizza.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I stopped.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
You know, I pall my walk because I don't I
want to make sure my time is good.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I go to pizza right, get the pizza. I'm walking.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I walk up to a park, the Washington Square Park,
and I'm walking through the park and meet my pizza,
and I got my watch going again. And there's these
guys in the in the in the park playing jazz,
and I noticed a bunch of people are stopped and listening,
like people sitting on the bench. And I was like, man,
this is beautiful, Like people just stopping and living life.
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And so I stopped. I was like, I'm gonna stop
and listen. And then my watch does the thing where
it goes, do you want.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
To pause your workout?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And I started to push pause because again in my mind,
like I have a goal on this journey and when
I get there, I want the number too.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I want it to be I was walking a fifteen
minute mile, right, and I had.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
This this aha moment where I said, that's unfair to
this moment.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
This moment is a part of the journey. It's not
about how fast I get there.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It's not I shouldn't be trying to erase this moment
from the journey just because it was an unexpected stop
on the journey, right, And I said, I'm gonna let it.
I'm gonna let it run.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And if I get there, when I get there and
I have my I'm on a.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Forty, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You know what when I look back at that work,
when I looked back at that, that forty is gonna
remind me that's because I stopped and got some pieces.
That's because I stopped, Because it's because I, yeah, like
I stopped and grabbed.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
A coffee, like all of them.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It will remind me of all of the memories that
were a part of that journey that made the journey
actually what it was. It wasn't about getting the Harlem,
because I got halfway there and then I thought to myself,
you know what I've never done. I've never walked across
the Brooklyn Bridge. I don't think I want to walk
across the Brooklyn bit Brooklyn Bridge. So I turned around
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from Midtown, walked all the way back down back to
the Brooklyn Bridge, walked across to Brooklyn Bridge, got into
Dumbo and sat at a bench looking at the river
for an hour and a half, and I said, this
is where the journey was always supposed to end. It's
not what I thought it was going to be when
I started the journey. Right there was all of these
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turns and changes and shifts and like new ideas and
oh maybe I should stop and do this, Maybe I
should look at this. Oh there's people playing kickball. Let
me watch them for a minute. Like all of these
things that were in no way a part in my mind.
I was like, I'm gonna get out there, hit the pavement,
and I'm gonna get to Harlem, and then and then
when I get to Harlem, then I'll figure out something
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to do. When I get to the end of the journey,
then I'll figure out what to do. And it was like, no, no, no,
all of these pieces on the journey, this is this
is what it is, and you might end up somewhere
completely different than where.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You thought you were, but it's where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
So just real quick to underscore exactly that this is
where I was supposed to be. A friend of mine
calls me and says, hey, I heard you're in the city.
You want to meet me over at the Dumbo Soho House,
which is.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right down the block from where you were. You've been
in Harlem, not happening. Listen, God's planned the master architect.
I thank you for sharing that, because again, it just
puts so much more clarity and exclamation points on what
we're doing and what we've been doing to date to
get this property to where it is, and we're super
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proud of And next week everybody will see the new
iteration of our baby and we're going to continue to
grow and evolve it. I'm so excited I mean, I
wish you could see your face right now as we're
both like the smiles and our cheeks are hurting because
it's like the labor of love and all that we've
been doing over the last months. I mean, we've been
working through this and we've got a ton more to
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do moving forward. But when I tell you, man again,
I got an end where I started my appreciation and
how grateful and thankful I that we have cross paths
and that we're able to work and grow together, both
professionally and personally. Right, we've shared a great deal. You
talk about, you know your last eighteen months, and you
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know how my last eighteen to twenty four has been
a complete roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I never would have thought the things that.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I'm dealing with now would be part of my journey.
However they are, and they are going to be recorded
on my forty minute mile, right, They're going to be
the moments that are part of that forty minute mile.
And so I just want to tell everybody listening, look,
thank you for the support thus far. We're looking for
the continued support as we move forward, and to share
that we are super, super excited for what we're delivering
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and what we're bringing in, our why behind this, and
just can't thank you enough.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm so glad we were able to set it off
with you because you've been amazing. You've been amazing, and
I look forward to continue to grow, learn, stumble, you know,
springboard all the things with you all through this.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Hey man, I'm again.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I know I started with this, but I will say
I can't tell you how appreciative we are like you
are as we've gone on this journey and tried different things,
and you know, some thing's work and some things didn't.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
The one, the one.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Thing that I think we have identified that is an
unequivocal necessity in any project is having a person who's
committed to doing it, who's committed to doing the work,
and the way you show up every day every time,
like I hope people listen, please please please listen, because
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you're doing the work, you're showing up and it's great
work that you're doing.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah boom