December 5, 2019 • 20 mins
First there were “Greenies” in baseball, then there were steroids, but now, Adderall seems to be the performance-enhancing drug of choice. The pills are easy to get, hard to test for, and provide that boost of focus and energy that is needed to play the game. Kendall Baker, sports editor at Axios, joins us for the big problem…While many believe taking Adderall is cheating, some players need it for legitimate reasons, so what should be done?
Next, while the impeachment inquiry is still underway and 2020 Democratic candidates are fighting for the nomination, what is the Trump campaign doing to fight back against anti-Trump animus? Trotting out Mike Pence. Trump can handle the big rallies and Pence will be out making the case for another term with seniors, suburban women, and swing-state voters. Gabby Orr, White House reporter at Politico, joins us for more.
Finally, now that many people have cut the cord and are spending more time with streaming platforms, you have to be careful about all that binge-watching. Some internet providers put a data cap on what you consume and the autoplay feature could be a major culprit. Jefferson Graham, host of the Talking Tech Podcast joins us for why too much binging could cost you more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Thursday, December five. I'm Oscar Ramiraz in Los Angeles
and this is the daily Dive. First there were greenies
in baseball, Then there were steroids, but now Adderall seems
to be the performance enhancing drug of choice. The pills
are easy to get, hard to test for, and provide
(00:21):
that boost the focus and energy that is needed to
play the game. Kendall Baker, sports editor at Axios joins
us for the big problem. Well, many believe taking adderall
is cheating. Some players needed for legitimate reasons. So what
should be done next? While the impeachment inquiry is still
under Waymocratic candidates are fighting for the nomination, what is
(00:41):
the Trump campaign doing to fight back against anti Trump
animus trotting out Mike Pence. Trump can handle the big
rallies and Pence will be out making the case for
another term with seniors, suburban women, and swing state voters.
Gabby or White, House, reporter at Politico, joins us for more. Finally,
now that many people have cut the cord and are
(01:02):
spending more time with streaming platforms, you have to be
careful about all that binge watching. Some internet providers put
a data cap on what you consume, and the AutoPlay
feature could be a major culprit. Jefferson Graham, host of
the Talking Tech podcast, joins us for why too much
binging could cost you more. It's news without the noise.
Let's dive in there. Just so black and white. The
(01:26):
di visuals of steroids are so aggressive, you know, sticking
a needle from your but things like that. Where this
is somebody sister has adderal and they try it and
they feel like they're more focused, and they take that
and they do well hitting a baseball. Joining us now
is Kendall Baker, sports editor at Axe House. Thanks for
joining us. Kendall, thanks for having me. In his latest
piece for The Athletic. Former Major League baseball player Lars Anderson,
(01:49):
he played for the Red Sox for a few years,
was talking about his experience using adderall as a performance
enhancing drug while he was playing in Japan and how
much it improved his on field performance. What a lot
of people might not realize is that this is not
really a small time thing. A lot of baseball players
are using this. I think somebody called adderall. The twenty
(02:10):
one century Greeny Greenies were these kind of inn fetta
means that baseball players were taking way back in the day.
Tell us a little bit about that, and then we'll
get into what Lars Anderson was saying about his experience
with Adderall and Fetta means used to be very popular
in baseball. In fact, it's kind of always been. And
people often obviously link most of baseball's troubles with the
steroid era, but this is actually kind of the precursion
(02:31):
of that when you think about it, just kind of generally,
not getting into specifics, baseball is a very monotonous sport.
It's a grind of a season, and essentially players just
need focus. Whether it's drinking a red bull, you know,
multiply that by a hundred, and that's where you're getting
with some of these drugs. And so that's really what
this is all about, is the sport that requires a
lot of attention, a lot of just staring at pictures
(02:52):
at balls, and so like, players are going to do
what they think is could give them the advantage. The
interesting thing about adderall, now entering the conversations that Adderall
is actual medication that a lot of players do legitimately need,
just like people in the general population. And so That's
what makes this debate kind of interesting is that it's
not as black and white as players shouldn't be taken
out of course, like people do need to drugs. So
it's kind of about how does baseball monitor this? And
(03:15):
there's a lot of disgust for sure. Anderson said that
when he was taking it, he had boundless amounts of
easily controlled energy. So obviously it's the focus that you
were just talking about. He went on to say, you know,
he was just utterly in the moment with a clear
mission when this pitch, the next one, the next one,
the next one, and it just helped him focus so much.
And as you were talking about this, a lot of
focus required in the game, but there's a lot of
(03:36):
travel time, there's a lot of stress on the body,
fatigue that can set in, and something like this is
really a game changer for them. It can really give
them a leg up. And that's where the pe D
part comes in the equation. Right again, going back to
kind of comparing this to let's say, steroids. I think steroids,
even the word of it now people immediately cringe, and
that's kind of black and white in people's minds. The
(03:57):
visual of that you know, as a player with tmall
souls that's able to hit these home runs, like you
clearly don't want that in the game. Where I just
kind of harder to envision a player who has enhanced
focus or you know, feels like they can see the
ball better, like you don't see that on the screen.
But if that's what's happening and players don't actually have
prescriptions to have that drug, then by most definitions, performance enhancing.
(04:17):
And so that's what I personally think so interesting about
this is that this has been going on and while
Major League Baseball does test for it, it's hard to
test for and so we really have no idea like
how prevalent this is. I do remember there's one famous
example in the last few years where the Orioles first
based on Chris Davis had the bad Roll prescription. I
believe it was inteen, and he hit fifty three home runs,
(04:38):
had one of the best years in recent memory. The
following year didn't get his add Roll prescription renewed and
hit like twenty four home runs. So you know, obviously
that's one example, and you don't want to draw too
many conclusions and try and fit a narrative into there,
But that is interesting, and I think Chris has gone
on to get a different prescription, which is two vibeans,
which is a similar medication. And I mean, he's literally
(04:59):
been one of the worst hitters in baseball history. Again,
not trying to draw too many conclusions, but it is interesting,
particularly when you look at player like him. You talked
about the testing, and it's hard to test for because
the adderal really doesn't stay in a person's body for
too long at all. In urine it's there for four days,
but in blood it's just forty six hours. So of
all the drugs that Major League Baseball and all the
(05:20):
professional sports least test for, like, that's extremely small amount
of time. And you know, to get a prescription is
fairly easy. You know, you go to a doctor and
they're gonna ask you the questions. If you answer in
the affirmative to everything, you'll probably get one, or you
can get it through quote unquote a friends somewhere else.
So it's fairly easy to get the pills. What else
did Anderson say in his piece regarding all of this,
I mean, what was his big takeaway? Is it a
(05:42):
good thing? Is it a bad thing for baseball? You know,
I think he takeaways kind of in the middle right
where kind of what I was alluding to, where this
is a much more nuanced conversation than steroids are bad gets,
there's out of baseball. He had one other kind of
interesting point in there where he talked to a player
who does have a prescription, who does need out of all,
but he acts really made the point that in order
for him to have an adderaal prescription, the league wants
(06:04):
to know that you're actually taking that drunk for medical purposes.
So he was required to actually take adderall every day,
and he actually argued that that was like bad Like
for some people maybe if you wake up, you take
your adderall, go about your day. For others, it's potentially
if you have a prescription and you're using it for
specific tasks or things like that. When he was required
to take it every day, he actually had kind of
sleep issues, insomnia, all these things. And so that was
(06:26):
just another part of this debate that's on the kind
of the complete opposite side about how players who do
have prescriptions have to take it every day. Has the
league taken any specific stance on adderall use. I know
they probably test weren't here and there. But with it
being out of your system so quickly, I mean it's
hard to detect. Has MLB really done anything to curb
(06:46):
use or any action on this at all, not to
my knowledge. I mean, they very well may have come
out with statements and past years. I'm not entirely sure.
I do know that this has been kind of one
of those not talked about issues for while, and I
think maybe that means it's not a big issue. Maybe
that means again, going back to my point, people aren't
even aware. I mean, it's not like one of those
(07:07):
drugs where one of your teammates could be taking it.
You'd be very aware of that. So again, who knows.
Drawing The comparison to steroids against steride is so black
and white. The visuals of steroids are so aggressive, you know,
sticking a needle in your butt, things like that, where
this is somebody sister has adderall and they try it
and they feel like they're more focused, and they take
that and they do well hitting a baseball. Now, all
(07:27):
of a sudden, it's it's a huge thing, so very interesting.
We'll see if anything comes to this piece, particularly with
a former player having pended Kendall Baker, Sports editor at AXEOS,
Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. We
(07:48):
rolled back red tape at a historic level. We unleashed
American energy, fought for free and fair trade, and America's
economy is booming. John us Now is Gabby or White
House reporter at Politico. Thanks for joining us, Gabby, thanks
for having me. We've been talking a lot about the
impeachment inquiry, We've been talking a lot about Democrats, so
(08:12):
we wanted to take a moment to check in on
the Trump campaign strategy. For Gabby, you wrote something up
for Political talking about how Vice President Mike Pence is
going to feature into the campaign season, and basically what
they're gonna be doing is kind of this good cop
bad cop thing where Vice President Mike Pence is gonna
(08:33):
run to fill in all the gaps that the president
maybe you know, he's causing problems with the scandal here
and there, and really people think he is very effective
on this. Basically, think that Vice President Mike Pence delivering
remarks in a more intimate setting to the fewer people
is equal to the President speaking at these huge, mega
rallies that he's doing. That's just how effective he is.
(08:54):
Gabby tell us a little bit more about how Vice
President Mike Pence will feature into the campaign. Stumm it up.
I mean, it's definitely similar to the dynamic we saw
in which is this good bad copper team that Trump
and Pence tend to play. On the one hand, President
Trump has this bombastic personality. He says whatever is on
his mind without really thinking about the consequences beforehand. He
(09:17):
will go on attack against political opponent. And then you
have Mike Pence, who is definitely more measured, more even keeled.
He's soft spoken, he is deliberate in the words that
he chooses in interviews and when he's out on the stump.
And so it's a totally different brand of personality on
either side, and the Trump campaign wants to basically use
(09:39):
that to their advantage. The President is not doing so
well right now with women voters, with suburban resident and
even with independence and the exact demographics that he's going
to need to make inroads with if he wants to
win reelection. So that's where Mike Pence fits in. He's
somebody who has less of a bombastic personality, who can
reassure and reinforce, which is the phrase that was just
(10:01):
repeatedly used to me when I was talking to people
involved with the campaign. And the vice president has largely
remained out of the picture on many of the President's scandals.
Obviously he's kind of got wrapped up into the Ukraine
thing a little bit, but still really nothing there. So
he has this kind of legitimacy to him that the
President might be lacking on certain subjects. In ther article
(10:21):
you wrote up that people close to Pence are using
phrases like polite pressure and micro targety. What do those
terms mean? Now? The polite pressure phrase just so accurately
captures exactly what type of role Mike Pence will play in,
and that is to go out there and talk to
prospective Trump voters, people who might like what the president
has done for them over the last three and a
(10:43):
half years but don't like his personality, and to essentially
put pressure on them gently and say, look, if you
feel like your pockets have been lined more, if the
kitchen table issues have worked well under this administration for you,
and you should consider voting for the president, even if
you don't like his tweet, even if you don't think
she's a man of character put all of that aside
and feels that you can be reassured knowing that I'm
(11:05):
in the White House. Well. And so that's kind of
a message that we can expect to hear from Mike
Pence over the next few months. And then on top
of that, I mean, just the setting for Mike Pence
on the campaign trail will be totally different from what
you see with President Trump. President Trump is obviously known
to drop into these metropolitan areas in different pockets of
states and hold these mega rallies that can attract ten
(11:26):
thousand people overnight, and Mike Pence will do far more
of the retail politic king, the baby kissing, the handshaking,
I mean, you name it. He will look like a
much more traditional candidate. I mean, it's a perfect tag team.
They're dividing and conquering on that front. What are some
of the states or areas that are gonna be getting
some of this love from the vice president? His team
(11:46):
on the campaign has broken his travel schedule into three
different tiers. On the one hand, they think that he'll
have a better opportunity to connect with voters in the
rest belt states that Trump narrowly won and where he
is really vulnerable right now with subourbon women, So expect
to see him in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. And then
you have your second and third tier states. These are
(12:08):
states that the president is either at risk of losing
even though he carried them in twenty six or states
where his campaign season opening to potentially flip them in
his favor in. And so that includes Arizona, Georgia, Texas
as some of the states that he could potentially lose in,
and then New Mexico and Minnesota as states that he
(12:28):
might be able to pick up in. The vice president
has been a steadfast supporter of the president, sticking up
for him really just about everywhere. And the reports are
saying also that the President is all in on Vice
President Mike Pens also. I guess there was some talk
a little bit that he might dump Pens and bring
Nicki Haley in to run for the second term, things
(12:48):
like that, but that really doesn't seem to be the case. Well,
it wasn't until last week that the President finally quashed
those rumors, which had been circulating for quite a while.
He had been making phone calls to friends in the
evenings asking them what they thought about Mike Pence, and
there had been some discussion inside the White House about
what it would look like to replace Pence on the
ticket with somebody who could appeal more to suburban women
(13:11):
and other types of voters. In Nicky Haley's name was
of course mentioned, but last week supposing didn't interview with
Fox News in which he said, you know, I like
Mike Pence. I think he's a great guy. I think
he's done great things for our administration, and he fully
intended to keep him on. It's always worth noting, though,
that this is a president who makes decisions on a
whim and even can surprise his own advisor sometimes. So
(13:33):
I think Pence's team feels safe, but that doesn't mean
that they aren't constantly on their toes as well. Gabby
or White House reporter at Politico, thank you very much
for joining us. Thanks for having me. The same companies
(13:54):
that have been giving us cable are now our internet provider,
and they've concocted a plan, and some of them anyway
that you have an X amount of space that you
can use each month. Like the wireless companies, you can
only talk so long and if you go over it,
you owe them. Joining us now is Jefferson Graham, calumnist
at USA Today and host of the Talking Tech podcast.
(14:15):
Thanks for joining us, Jefferson, happy to be here. We'll
be talking about all these streaming services are coming on board.
People are going crazy for Disney Plus and Baby Yoda.
People have seen the memes all over the place. But
one thing you have to be careful for is that
there could be some hidden fees that you might not
be aware of. And this is coming from your internet provider,
(14:38):
not necessarily these streaming platforms, but if you have auto
play enabled either like on Netflix, Amazon Prime, even the
Disney Plus stuff, you could be racking up a lot
of extra fees. Jefferson tell us a little bit about this.
We're accustomed to watching TV for hours and hours and
hours and not having any issue. Nobody ever complained. We
(14:58):
pay your monthly cable bill and that's it. Now the
same companies that have been giving us cable are now
our internet provider, and they've concocted plans, some of them anyway,
that you have an X amount of space that you
can use each month. Like the wireless companies, you can
only talk so long and if you go over it
you owe the money. The two worst offenders here are
(15:20):
Comcast and Cox. Talked to a guy who went crazy
watching so much Disney Plus that he got a note
at the end of the month, you have exceeded your amount.
You're going to have overages that kind of like to
go to bed with something in the background. And I
do this specifically. So when I saw this article right away,
I've freaked out and I thought, oh my god, if
(15:41):
I'm gonna be subject to some of this. So tell
us kind of what some of these data caps are
that these Internet providers are imposing on people. Well, the
data cap is one terrabyte, and no human being has
any idea what that really means. I think I figured
out it would be about ten hours a day of viewing,
but I don't think that's actually true because I think
it's ten hours at lower speed. What happens when you
(16:04):
start watching four K programming. So, Michael Markman, this guy
in in the Seattle area who I interviewed, he went
and checked his bills and he was averaging about fifty
of his data cap every month, and then he bought
a new four K TV, a big screen for k TV,
and started watching more and all of a sudden, he
went from because the four K takes up so much
(16:27):
more data. Now, let me ask you, who is your
internet provider. I go through direct TV. I don't know
if they have data caps, though Direct Tv is a
T and T and they definitely have data caps, so
I would be careful about that. And i'd also turn
auto play off because what happens is you go to bed,
you've watched that last episode of The Crown, and then
you turn off the TV. But in fact Netflix then
(16:50):
runs shows endlessly for eight ten hours, and you're paying
for that. So you either want to close the app
all together or it out of auto play, which you
could do by going into settings you said. Cox Cable
and Comcast are some of the worst offenders with this.
Cox Cable has a breakdown on one of their websites
talking about how much a terabyte of data is worth.
(17:13):
And you know, they have a bunch of stuff, A
hundred and forty two hour HD movies that you could watch,
a hundred half hour standard definition TV shows, a bunch
of stuff. I listened to seventy hundred songs that are
four minutes long each. I love these very specific breakdowns,
but you're right. We just went through Black Friday Cyber
Monday where people are buying these higher quality t vs
(17:34):
four K, eight K things like that, and the first
thing you want to do is test those things out.
So you do have to be careful with the data
right there. Who are some of the companies that are
not doing these data caps. Verizon does not have a
data cap, and Spectrums which is also known as Charter
does not have a data cap. In the Western region
where I am. Frontier does not have a data cap.
(17:56):
But that's for now. Cable TV subscribers were paying their
monthly fee and all of a sudden they got hit
with this tended twelve dollar broadcast fee that was just
made up out of thin air. We shouldn't have to pay,
but we're paying because they're just always looking for new
ways to charge us for more things, and this is
a way for them to charge you more money for
what you're doing. You have the line in the article
(18:17):
perfect welcome to the world of cutting the cord from
cable and spending more time with streaming. These companies do
need to look for extra revenue streams and how to
handle this. With more people are using data and bandwidth
and things like that. As you said, it could be
a lot more companies doing this. It just makes sense
in a way. Many of us live in an area
where it's a monopoly. In l A where I am,
(18:38):
I have two choices. I have frontier or spectrum period,
which is better than most who have no alternatives. I
don't know about you if you have another alternative, but
usually if there's competition, there's no data caps. For Comcast
part they say that the average customer pays about sixty
monthly for internet service, and this could be with the
data cap and if you want to go unlimited, then
(19:00):
the charges a flat additional fifty dollar fee. That's a
lot of money now that you're just spending on Internet.
And we've been talking about this with all these online
streaming platforms coming up, we've been talking about it, how
now you're paying just as much as cable because you're
getting so many other platforms, and now you've got to
play for the unlimited data plans. So it is pretty crazy.
Jefferson Graham, columnists for USA Today and host of the
(19:22):
Talking Tech podcast. Thank you very much for joining us.
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It's Thursday, December five. I'm Oscar Ramiraz in Los Angeles
and this is the daily Dive. First there were greenies
in baseball, Then there were steroids, but now Adderall seems
to be the performance enhancing drug of choice. The pills
are easy to get, hard to test for, and provide
(00:21):
that boost the focus and energy that is needed to
play the game. Kendall Baker, sports editor at Axios joins
us for the big problem. Well, many believe taking adderall
is cheating. Some players needed for legitimate reasons. So what
should be done next? While the impeachment inquiry is still
under Waymocratic candidates are fighting for the nomination, what is
(00:41):
the Trump campaign doing to fight back against anti Trump
animus trotting out Mike Pence. Trump can handle the big
rallies and Pence will be out making the case for
another term with seniors, suburban women, and swing state voters.
Gabby or White, House, reporter at Politico, joins us for more. Finally,
now that many people have cut the cord and are
(01:02):
spending more time with streaming platforms, you have to be
careful about all that binge watching. Some internet providers put
a data cap on what you consume, and the AutoPlay
feature could be a major culprit. Jefferson Graham, host of
the Talking Tech podcast, joins us for why too much
binging could cost you more. It's news without the noise.
Let's dive in there. Just so black and white. The
(01:26):
di visuals of steroids are so aggressive, you know, sticking
a needle from your but things like that. Where this
is somebody sister has adderal and they try it and
they feel like they're more focused, and they take that
and they do well hitting a baseball. Joining us now
is Kendall Baker, sports editor at Axe House. Thanks for
joining us. Kendall, thanks for having me. In his latest
piece for The Athletic. Former Major League baseball player Lars Anderson,
(01:49):
he played for the Red Sox for a few years,
was talking about his experience using adderall as a performance
enhancing drug while he was playing in Japan and how
much it improved his on field performance. What a lot
of people might not realize is that this is not
really a small time thing. A lot of baseball players
are using this. I think somebody called adderall. The twenty
(02:10):
one century Greeny Greenies were these kind of inn fetta
means that baseball players were taking way back in the day.
Tell us a little bit about that, and then we'll
get into what Lars Anderson was saying about his experience
with Adderall and Fetta means used to be very popular
in baseball. In fact, it's kind of always been. And
people often obviously link most of baseball's troubles with the
steroid era, but this is actually kind of the precursion
(02:31):
of that when you think about it, just kind of generally,
not getting into specifics, baseball is a very monotonous sport.
It's a grind of a season, and essentially players just
need focus. Whether it's drinking a red bull, you know,
multiply that by a hundred, and that's where you're getting
with some of these drugs. And so that's really what
this is all about, is the sport that requires a
lot of attention, a lot of just staring at pictures
(02:52):
at balls, and so like, players are going to do
what they think is could give them the advantage. The
interesting thing about adderall, now entering the conversations that Adderall
is actual medication that a lot of players do legitimately need,
just like people in the general population. And so That's
what makes this debate kind of interesting is that it's
not as black and white as players shouldn't be taken
out of course, like people do need to drugs. So
it's kind of about how does baseball monitor this? And
(03:15):
there's a lot of disgust for sure. Anderson said that
when he was taking it, he had boundless amounts of
easily controlled energy. So obviously it's the focus that you
were just talking about. He went on to say, you know,
he was just utterly in the moment with a clear
mission when this pitch, the next one, the next one,
the next one, and it just helped him focus so much.
And as you were talking about this, a lot of
focus required in the game, but there's a lot of
(03:36):
travel time, there's a lot of stress on the body,
fatigue that can set in, and something like this is
really a game changer for them. It can really give
them a leg up. And that's where the pe D
part comes in the equation. Right again, going back to
kind of comparing this to let's say, steroids. I think steroids,
even the word of it now people immediately cringe, and
that's kind of black and white in people's minds. The
(03:57):
visual of that you know, as a player with tmall
souls that's able to hit these home runs, like you
clearly don't want that in the game. Where I just
kind of harder to envision a player who has enhanced
focus or you know, feels like they can see the
ball better, like you don't see that on the screen.
But if that's what's happening and players don't actually have
prescriptions to have that drug, then by most definitions, performance enhancing.
(04:17):
And so that's what I personally think so interesting about
this is that this has been going on and while
Major League Baseball does test for it, it's hard to
test for and so we really have no idea like
how prevalent this is. I do remember there's one famous
example in the last few years where the Orioles first
based on Chris Davis had the bad Roll prescription. I
believe it was inteen, and he hit fifty three home runs,
(04:38):
had one of the best years in recent memory. The
following year didn't get his add Roll prescription renewed and
hit like twenty four home runs. So you know, obviously
that's one example, and you don't want to draw too
many conclusions and try and fit a narrative into there,
But that is interesting, and I think Chris has gone
on to get a different prescription, which is two vibeans,
which is a similar medication. And I mean, he's literally
(04:59):
been one of the worst hitters in baseball history. Again,
not trying to draw too many conclusions, but it is interesting,
particularly when you look at player like him. You talked
about the testing, and it's hard to test for because
the adderal really doesn't stay in a person's body for
too long at all. In urine it's there for four days,
but in blood it's just forty six hours. So of
all the drugs that Major League Baseball and all the
(05:20):
professional sports least test for, like, that's extremely small amount
of time. And you know, to get a prescription is
fairly easy. You know, you go to a doctor and
they're gonna ask you the questions. If you answer in
the affirmative to everything, you'll probably get one, or you
can get it through quote unquote a friends somewhere else.
So it's fairly easy to get the pills. What else
did Anderson say in his piece regarding all of this,
I mean, what was his big takeaway? Is it a
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good thing? Is it a bad thing for baseball? You know,
I think he takeaways kind of in the middle right
where kind of what I was alluding to, where this
is a much more nuanced conversation than steroids are bad gets,
there's out of baseball. He had one other kind of
interesting point in there where he talked to a player
who does have a prescription, who does need out of all,
but he acts really made the point that in order
for him to have an adderaal prescription, the league wants
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to know that you're actually taking that drunk for medical purposes.
So he was required to actually take adderall every day,
and he actually argued that that was like bad Like
for some people maybe if you wake up, you take
your adderall, go about your day. For others, it's potentially
if you have a prescription and you're using it for
specific tasks or things like that. When he was required
to take it every day, he actually had kind of
sleep issues, insomnia, all these things. And so that was
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just another part of this debate that's on the kind
of the complete opposite side about how players who do
have prescriptions have to take it every day. Has the
league taken any specific stance on adderall use. I know
they probably test weren't here and there. But with it
being out of your system so quickly, I mean it's
hard to detect. Has MLB really done anything to curb
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use or any action on this at all, not to
my knowledge. I mean, they very well may have come
out with statements and past years. I'm not entirely sure.
I do know that this has been kind of one
of those not talked about issues for while, and I
think maybe that means it's not a big issue. Maybe
that means again, going back to my point, people aren't
even aware. I mean, it's not like one of those
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drugs where one of your teammates could be taking it.
You'd be very aware of that. So again, who knows.
Drawing The comparison to steroids against steride is so black
and white. The visuals of steroids are so aggressive, you know,
sticking a needle in your butt, things like that, where
this is somebody sister has adderall and they try it
and they feel like they're more focused, and they take
that and they do well hitting a baseball. Now, all
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of a sudden, it's it's a huge thing, so very interesting.
We'll see if anything comes to this piece, particularly with
a former player having pended Kendall Baker, Sports editor at AXEOS,
Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. We
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rolled back red tape at a historic level. We unleashed
American energy, fought for free and fair trade, and America's
economy is booming. John us Now is Gabby or White
House reporter at Politico. Thanks for joining us, Gabby, thanks
for having me. We've been talking a lot about the
impeachment inquiry, We've been talking a lot about Democrats, so
(08:12):
we wanted to take a moment to check in on
the Trump campaign strategy. For Gabby, you wrote something up
for Political talking about how Vice President Mike Pence is
going to feature into the campaign season, and basically what
they're gonna be doing is kind of this good cop
bad cop thing where Vice President Mike Pence is gonna
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run to fill in all the gaps that the president
maybe you know, he's causing problems with the scandal here
and there, and really people think he is very effective
on this. Basically, think that Vice President Mike Pence delivering
remarks in a more intimate setting to the fewer people
is equal to the President speaking at these huge, mega
rallies that he's doing. That's just how effective he is.
(08:54):
Gabby tell us a little bit more about how Vice
President Mike Pence will feature into the campaign. Stumm it up.
I mean, it's definitely similar to the dynamic we saw
in which is this good bad copper team that Trump
and Pence tend to play. On the one hand, President
Trump has this bombastic personality. He says whatever is on
his mind without really thinking about the consequences beforehand. He
(09:17):
will go on attack against political opponent. And then you
have Mike Pence, who is definitely more measured, more even keeled.
He's soft spoken, he is deliberate in the words that
he chooses in interviews and when he's out on the stump.
And so it's a totally different brand of personality on
either side, and the Trump campaign wants to basically use
(09:39):
that to their advantage. The President is not doing so
well right now with women voters, with suburban resident and
even with independence and the exact demographics that he's going
to need to make inroads with if he wants to
win reelection. So that's where Mike Pence fits in. He's
somebody who has less of a bombastic personality, who can
reassure and reinforce, which is the phrase that was just
(10:01):
repeatedly used to me when I was talking to people
involved with the campaign. And the vice president has largely
remained out of the picture on many of the President's scandals.
Obviously he's kind of got wrapped up into the Ukraine
thing a little bit, but still really nothing there. So
he has this kind of legitimacy to him that the
President might be lacking on certain subjects. In ther article
(10:21):
you wrote up that people close to Pence are using
phrases like polite pressure and micro targety. What do those
terms mean? Now? The polite pressure phrase just so accurately
captures exactly what type of role Mike Pence will play in,
and that is to go out there and talk to
prospective Trump voters, people who might like what the president
has done for them over the last three and a
(10:43):
half years but don't like his personality, and to essentially
put pressure on them gently and say, look, if you
feel like your pockets have been lined more, if the
kitchen table issues have worked well under this administration for you,
and you should consider voting for the president, even if
you don't like his tweet, even if you don't think
she's a man of character put all of that aside
and feels that you can be reassured knowing that I'm
(11:05):
in the White House. Well. And so that's kind of
a message that we can expect to hear from Mike
Pence over the next few months. And then on top
of that, I mean, just the setting for Mike Pence
on the campaign trail will be totally different from what
you see with President Trump. President Trump is obviously known
to drop into these metropolitan areas in different pockets of
states and hold these mega rallies that can attract ten
(11:26):
thousand people overnight, and Mike Pence will do far more
of the retail politic king, the baby kissing, the handshaking,
I mean, you name it. He will look like a
much more traditional candidate. I mean, it's a perfect tag team.
They're dividing and conquering on that front. What are some
of the states or areas that are gonna be getting
some of this love from the vice president? His team
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on the campaign has broken his travel schedule into three
different tiers. On the one hand, they think that he'll
have a better opportunity to connect with voters in the
rest belt states that Trump narrowly won and where he
is really vulnerable right now with subourbon women, So expect
to see him in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. And then
you have your second and third tier states. These are
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states that the president is either at risk of losing
even though he carried them in twenty six or states
where his campaign season opening to potentially flip them in
his favor in. And so that includes Arizona, Georgia, Texas
as some of the states that he could potentially lose in,
and then New Mexico and Minnesota as states that he
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might be able to pick up in. The vice president
has been a steadfast supporter of the president, sticking up
for him really just about everywhere. And the reports are
saying also that the President is all in on Vice
President Mike Pens also. I guess there was some talk
a little bit that he might dump Pens and bring
Nicki Haley in to run for the second term, things
(12:48):
like that, but that really doesn't seem to be the case. Well,
it wasn't until last week that the President finally quashed
those rumors, which had been circulating for quite a while.
He had been making phone calls to friends in the
evenings asking them what they thought about Mike Pence, and
there had been some discussion inside the White House about
what it would look like to replace Pence on the
ticket with somebody who could appeal more to suburban women
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and other types of voters. In Nicky Haley's name was
of course mentioned, but last week supposing didn't interview with
Fox News in which he said, you know, I like
Mike Pence. I think he's a great guy. I think
he's done great things for our administration, and he fully
intended to keep him on. It's always worth noting, though,
that this is a president who makes decisions on a
whim and even can surprise his own advisor sometimes. So
(13:33):
I think Pence's team feels safe, but that doesn't mean
that they aren't constantly on their toes as well. Gabby
or White House reporter at Politico, thank you very much
for joining us. Thanks for having me. The same companies
(13:54):
that have been giving us cable are now our internet provider,
and they've concocted a plan, and some of them anyway
that you have an X amount of space that you
can use each month. Like the wireless companies, you can
only talk so long and if you go over it,
you owe them. Joining us now is Jefferson Graham, calumnist
at USA Today and host of the Talking Tech podcast.
(14:15):
Thanks for joining us, Jefferson, happy to be here. We'll
be talking about all these streaming services are coming on board.
People are going crazy for Disney Plus and Baby Yoda.
People have seen the memes all over the place. But
one thing you have to be careful for is that
there could be some hidden fees that you might not
be aware of. And this is coming from your internet provider,
(14:38):
not necessarily these streaming platforms, but if you have auto
play enabled either like on Netflix, Amazon Prime, even the
Disney Plus stuff, you could be racking up a lot
of extra fees. Jefferson tell us a little bit about this.
We're accustomed to watching TV for hours and hours and
hours and not having any issue. Nobody ever complained. We
(14:58):
pay your monthly cable bill and that's it. Now the
same companies that have been giving us cable are now
our internet provider, and they've concocted plans, some of them anyway,
that you have an X amount of space that you
can use each month. Like the wireless companies, you can
only talk so long and if you go over it
you owe the money. The two worst offenders here are
(15:20):
Comcast and Cox. Talked to a guy who went crazy
watching so much Disney Plus that he got a note
at the end of the month, you have exceeded your amount.
You're going to have overages that kind of like to
go to bed with something in the background. And I
do this specifically. So when I saw this article right away,
I've freaked out and I thought, oh my god, if
(15:41):
I'm gonna be subject to some of this. So tell
us kind of what some of these data caps are
that these Internet providers are imposing on people. Well, the
data cap is one terrabyte, and no human being has
any idea what that really means. I think I figured
out it would be about ten hours a day of viewing,
but I don't think that's actually true because I think
it's ten hours at lower speed. What happens when you
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start watching four K programming. So, Michael Markman, this guy
in in the Seattle area who I interviewed, he went
and checked his bills and he was averaging about fifty
of his data cap every month, and then he bought
a new four K TV, a big screen for k TV,
and started watching more and all of a sudden, he
went from because the four K takes up so much
(16:27):
more data. Now, let me ask you, who is your
internet provider. I go through direct TV. I don't know
if they have data caps, though Direct Tv is a
T and T and they definitely have data caps, so
I would be careful about that. And i'd also turn
auto play off because what happens is you go to bed,
you've watched that last episode of The Crown, and then
you turn off the TV. But in fact Netflix then
(16:50):
runs shows endlessly for eight ten hours, and you're paying
for that. So you either want to close the app
all together or it out of auto play, which you
could do by going into settings you said. Cox Cable
and Comcast are some of the worst offenders with this.
Cox Cable has a breakdown on one of their websites
talking about how much a terabyte of data is worth.
(17:13):
And you know, they have a bunch of stuff, A
hundred and forty two hour HD movies that you could watch,
a hundred half hour standard definition TV shows, a bunch
of stuff. I listened to seventy hundred songs that are
four minutes long each. I love these very specific breakdowns,
but you're right. We just went through Black Friday Cyber
Monday where people are buying these higher quality t vs
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four K, eight K things like that, and the first
thing you want to do is test those things out.
So you do have to be careful with the data
right there. Who are some of the companies that are
not doing these data caps. Verizon does not have a
data cap, and Spectrums which is also known as Charter
does not have a data cap. In the Western region
where I am. Frontier does not have a data cap.
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But that's for now. Cable TV subscribers were paying their
monthly fee and all of a sudden they got hit
with this tended twelve dollar broadcast fee that was just
made up out of thin air. We shouldn't have to pay,
but we're paying because they're just always looking for new
ways to charge us for more things, and this is
a way for them to charge you more money for
what you're doing. You have the line in the article
(18:17):
perfect welcome to the world of cutting the cord from
cable and spending more time with streaming. These companies do
need to look for extra revenue streams and how to
handle this. With more people are using data and bandwidth
and things like that. As you said, it could be
a lot more companies doing this. It just makes sense
in a way. Many of us live in an area
where it's a monopoly. In l A where I am,
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I have two choices. I have frontier or spectrum period,
which is better than most who have no alternatives. I
don't know about you if you have another alternative, but
usually if there's competition, there's no data caps. For Comcast
part they say that the average customer pays about sixty
monthly for internet service, and this could be with the
data cap and if you want to go unlimited, then
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the charges a flat additional fifty dollar fee. That's a
lot of money now that you're just spending on Internet.
And we've been talking about this with all these online
streaming platforms coming up, we've been talking about it, how
now you're paying just as much as cable because you're
getting so many other platforms, and now you've got to
play for the unlimited data plans. So it is pretty crazy.
Jefferson Graham, columnists for USA Today and host of the
(19:22):
Talking Tech podcast. Thank you very much for joining us.
Thanks for having me. That's it for today. Join us
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