November 26, 2025 • 26 mins
Daniel Cormier IS BACK and he's interviewing Arman Tsarukyan after an impressive submission win over Dan Hooker in Qatar! Arman talks about the victory and why he's not happy with Ilia Topuria avoiding a title fight with him. Plus, Tsarukyan says that Topuria told him he was next, but after the Oliveira win has since only called for Paddy. And Arman details what happened the moment Ilia "slapped" him, the scuffle between Khamzat Chimaev and Ian Garry, Islam Makhachev's double champ status, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Some guys, welcome to another episode. Today, I'm joined by
the one and only armand Serukian. This episode is brought
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is this man. Armand Serukian. Arman. The other day, Bro,
you go to Doha and minus eight hundred, you're the favorite.
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You not only win the fight though you dominated Dan Hooker.
Did you know you would beat him up in that way?
Were you confident that you could dominate him in the
way that you did.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I was super confident, but I never understimate him because
it's a fight.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
He's dangerous under defeat.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
He has good striking, dangerous knees, keeps, you know. And
I was preparing, like for my title fight. Same so
I I treat the training camp that I'm fighting for
the title.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
If I am gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Look bad during the fight, even wing but barely win,
I can't forget about the title. That's why I was
super motivated, super confident, and I knew I'm going there,
I'm dominated, I'm gonna dominate and get the finished.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But you but you beat him or you were fighting him,
and the last time you lost the fight was against
his game Rock.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I didn't. I didn't lose that fight. Bad decision, right,
that bad decision.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But on record lost two Oliver to Hooker two. Yes,
I beat everybody, and I beat Gambro as well.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yes, but when you watch him beat gam Rock right,
and Gamrock wasn't able to take him down When you
were preparing though, did you kind of have that in
your mind, like, well, Gamrod wants to wrestle and he
couldn't take him down. Maybe this guy's take down the
fits is improved to the point that it might be
a little more difficult. I might have to stand with him.
And how quickly in the fight did you realize there's
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no way this guy can keep me on my feet?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, in this sport there is a levels.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You know when you watch fight and you can understand,
like you can take him down, you can hold him.
Gambrod has a he doesn't believe on his striking, and
he shoots from far far away, and then he doesn't
have good control on the bottom. You know, he can
take down people, but he cannot control on the bottom.
(02:47):
And that's his problem. But I'm opposite, and I didn't
think like I couldn't hold him on the on the ground.
And when I took him down, when I when I
was on the on the top on the second round,
I knew I'm gonna finish him.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
How do you know?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I just felt he.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Was kind of often when I threw the knee in
the first round, he was bobbling, and and the second
round when I started punching, grounding, when I started ground
him do the grund pound, he I started feeling like
he's like so weak already, you know, and he wanted
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to give up already. And when I get.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The arm triangle, I thought, like, no way he can
get out of here.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I don't just you know what's crazy, Like this does
not work if you have good And then I changed,
but I understand, but if you have but if you
have a good arm triangleen someone just do this. That's
not gonna stop.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
No, no, no, I still chuck it. If someone does this,
I'll chuck.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
If someone's gonna grab his leg that I'm not gonna chuck.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, like this it's easy money for me too.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. People think like this answer in the phone. It's
gonna stop a good it's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's nothing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If you gotta give your back or you gotta hold
your leg to hold your leg.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Got you gotta find a way to like get some
space in here. When you do this, it doesn't give space.
You need to find a way to get the space
off of this ship.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The best thing is the turn and go on your body. Yeah,
that's the best thing because you have no choice.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Everybody like, it's like whenever you're on someone's back and
you gotta go to let get in the mount, and
then when they get in the mount, you gotta go
to your back. You guys, it's like you gotta choose
between bad positions and then hopefully that in one of
those transitions you get away from the guy. But you
can feel when you're on top of someone, you can
feel their energy. You can almost feel their posture. And
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when their posture starts to tell you it's time to
get them out of there, you can go get them
out of there. You did that to Dan Hooker. Here's
the problem, arman. You're fighting this dude right when you
really don't have much to gain. All you have to
gain is what you already have. The number one contender.
You were the number one contender back in January, So why.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Did you just prove it again? I just I just
prove it again. I know to prove I just prove
it again, and I should again. Everybody like I'm a
real deal. It's not just I'm run number one. Just
I'm not fake like Petty pemelet making rank by their self.
And you see Teller bring him up because we want
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to give him title.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Fight or I don't know what they want to do
with him. I am. I was.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I was beating everybody, and I was deserved every spot.
You know, I was top fifteen, top twelve, top ten,
top nine, top five, top three, top one, and now
I'm top one and I beat it again and prove
it again. I'm number one contender, and now they have.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No choice not to give me a title fight.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So you when you fought in January, when we're supposed
to fight in January, it didn't happen. It felt like
there was gonna be a punishment, and then you go
and you make the way that's the backup fighter for
the title fight. I was thinking to myself, okay, that
should give him good favor. Now you might see armand
fight for the belt. But then you take the Dan
Hooker fight when you don't have to take the Dan
Hooker fight because once again you're the number one contender,
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you take it, You dominate him, you win the fight.
Patty Pimlin, though, when he went into that octagon Arman
playing the devil's advocate, there's a visual right of you
of him standing in front of Iliot the Pooria with
the belt. It's hard for the fan to like not
remember seeing that, and they go, well, the guy that
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was in there is a number one contender. How do
you make them outside of you just dominating realize you're
a number And why didn't Ilia go in the ring
with you on Saturday? Because if Ilia goes in the
ring and you two stand, now people forget about Patty Pemblet.
Why didn't he go in there?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Because he doesn't want to fight me, he's scared of me,
and he knows why I should take dangerous fight with
armand his real contender. It's easier to beat petty people
that make easy fight and go move up and Arman
can be a champion in one fifty five and I'm
going up and fight with the third title. It's the
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best case scenario for him, and he's thinking for easy fights,
you know, making good money.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Were you disappointed though, Like, did you think that he
might go into the ring with you and try to
get that moment? Because the moment is really what it's
all about, right, me and brock Lesnar one time, you
remember me and brock Lesno, we fight in the octagon.
They were gonna let me fight brock Lesner because he
came in the octagon. Were you were you hopeful that
he could possibly like go in there and try to
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build the fire.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I thought he has a he had the balls, and
that he was there and sitting watching my fight. But
he left, and he left and he didn't want to
even be there, and he didn't get in in the case.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But even the camera even if like when you're in there,
they pan the camera to him.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's like he just turned his face and like and
that doesn't want to even watch straight to me.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, you think this guy, you think he's afraid
of you, Army.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
No, he just avoiding me not doing anything from the
media versus him because he wants to create something with Spetty.
He doesn't want to even mention my name and he
just created like some crazy things, like he's slapping me
and like.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Everything he said, slap He said, he slap you, army,
he said, he slap you. Hey, but man slap you.
If a man slap you, you can't really say much
about it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
If we slap you, oh my god, if he slapped me.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He slapt his brother, his friends, his teammater, his coach.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He slapt everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Every day he's like, uh yeah everybody. I was like, yo,
when I see that he's hugging his brother like this,
like on the neck, like me, and like one coach
like said, oh my god, you slapping your your brother
as well?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Wait wait, wait wait the coach said.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
This to no.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, no, the one Armenian coach posted and said, oh
you're slapping your your brother as well.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But he didn't like it. Didn't look like he slapped you.
Look like he kind of touched you on the face.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, he just came said, oh, brother, how are you
wait he said he is dead. No, he said, he said, brother,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
This is just media thing, this.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Dad, And and then he said yeah, you see told
me you Next I said yes finally and now after
when he and after that he beat OLIVERA and he
just hiding.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Wait so this was This wasn't last week when you
touched your face. This was before it was before the
fight week with OLIVERA. Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
When he thought that was Oliver I was back out.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, you're like, yo, this is crazy. This guy did
not slap me. But this is what we want though,
this is what the fans want. The fans want.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's good. Yeah, he can, he can say whatever he
wants to say. You know, yeah, I just I just
I don't know. I cannot be like that, do you? So?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is it disappointing though that you haven't I mean, have
you been told that you're next? Have you been told
that you're next?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I haven't been talking. I didn't talk to them yet.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You walked right to the side where to what saying?
And you did the belt side.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You're like, yo, I'm I said Bell. Bell.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
He said, we will think or I don't know what
he said. Yeah, he said, yeah, I would think about that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But what do you have? Like, what do you have?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know, Maybe beat a couple more contenders, or
maybe they're gonna bring someone from Japan, some debut guy
and they gotta beat him, like pantoja did and I
don't know?
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you fight again before he get in the title fight?
No way, No, you shouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
If it's not col MacGregor, I will fight.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You want to fight com McGregor man, He said, did
you see Conda McGregor say he went on his spiritual journey?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He said, he went on his never fight me and
the UC never let me fight.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's a night.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
He went on the s but he said, he goes on.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's the same thing like with Patty Pelet. Like people
is laughing, you know, So you.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Don't think that Patty Pimlet has anything for illiot to
pour you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No way, you don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Why did you see what he did to Michael Chandler destroyed.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Michael Chandler okay, how many like Mike.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But but but he's forty years old. He has six
losses or or two wings on you see him.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And he had like four loses win streak.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
He he he's nobody.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
He just tried to make him like Arthur Gary or.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Who wanted they to do him like a superstar or no.
But yeah, he showed good fights. But but he's not
elite fighter. There is a there's levels, you know when
you see.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And uh, Perry.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Cannot beat even Ali Vera, cannot beat even Hooker. He
cannot be he cannot beat for, he cannot beat He
cannot beat all Away.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He cannot beat me.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If he's gonna beat even even Gage, I'm gonna say, yeah,
this guy is good.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
So you don't think Patty's very good?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
His sun? What do you mean you think he's good?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You think he's good. If you say you're good, I'm
gonna turn off.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
This Armond Wait wait, listen. He's a good grappler. He's
a very good grappling. He's very big for the weight class.
Remember who can I finish? Did you see when he
fight King Green? He hit King Green, drop him and
choke him out?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Who is King Green?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Bobby Kreen Green, Bobby King Green. He changed his name
now only King Green, not Bobby Green.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Bobby Green, and the MMA is different grappling and Bob
Bobby Green is.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Where's Bobby Green's grappling brother? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, listen to me. You know who he is, right,
you know who Bobby Green is?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Bobby Green?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, I know he's good striker.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Roh, my brother he never trained.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
M m A.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I swear if they're gonna be on the on the
street fight, my brother will kill him so easy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You guys have a problem, right you Bobby Green?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And no, we have not. We have no problems.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You slap him, You slap just saying I'm just no,
I didn't slap him.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I just pushed him.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's a it's a different if you slap somebody you wanna,
it's a different.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I just pushed him to the neck. I'm not bullshit
like uh.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Even if I push, I said I push. Okay, to
be honest, tell Bobby Green he's a no high level fighter.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Send him to Dugis three years.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So you say he has no chance versus illiot. It
just feels like that that moment was missed last weekend
for you guys to kind of come face to face
and make it happen, because at the end of the
day you might not think much of Patty, but Illi
is good. He's very very good, hits hard. He comes
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from a grappling wrestling background, is what he said, right,
that's like his background more than even striking. What would
your approach be to him? I mean, I know you
use the wrestling as beautiful as anybody in the game,
But when you fight a guy who has that danger
right in the hands, like the Pouria, how do you
approach that? How would you beat illiot to pooria nobody.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Has I'll beat him everywhere. Just tell me how you
want to see that fight. I'll make it happen. I
think i'll him out.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Oh yeah, I like that. I like when you do
the ax kick Horman. You got very athletic.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'll make him tired and I'll throw my obskick and
I came out.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's that's my plan.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, so big one last weekend. Now you're relaxing, bro,
you're eating camel back. What you're doing eating camel back? Man,
that shouldn't look disgusting. It's not good.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
No camera was so delicious. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It was maybe off to the fire I I was.
I was on the diet long time, That's what I maybe.
But Coma was young.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Kama was super delicious and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What it tastes like.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What it tastes like between beef and lamb, beef and lamb? Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah? Yeah, I shouldn't look disgusting too much fat. It
was like a lot of fat on the back.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah. You don't need fat.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't I don't need fat a army. I gotta
be honest, man, you take your shirt off right next
to me. People confused, they don't know who's Armor Taroukian
and who's Daniel Cormier. We looked just the same you
and need the same in the in and out and
then the in and out burger and all the other
stuff you live in life.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I'm very happy for you.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
If you want this title fight right, potentially it could
happen at the very beginning of next year. Do you
go right back in the training camp? No problem?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, just fly out there tomorrow and start my training
camp back home. No.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
No, If it's going to be in US, I'll fly
to Yes. Yeah, you stay in Los Angeles, Los Angeles
or Miami.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah is nice?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Hey do you like him in Dubai relaxing one week
and then back to works?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah? Yeah, that's awesome. Hey what about your dad? Like
he's like now like a major player in MMA, Like
everybody you.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
See how he likes slammed the almost kill him.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I was, I was laughing so long and like it
was like a double slab.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
His dad is like a major player that I mean, Now,
everybody loved this guy. Oh all good man. Hey, I'm
happy for you, bro. I hope you get this title fight.
I'm telling you, man, you were the number one contender
in January. You're the number one contender today. And if
you aren't fighting for the title, I don't understand. I
really don't understand how anyone could be in there above you,
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especially with how competitive and how good of a fight
it would be between you and Illiot to pour you. Hey,
what happened? What happened with Ian Gary and Humsa? Ian Gary?
He grabbed Humsack.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Boll Homsad has a to and O that day?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We just came from the bas and like we're getting
into the to the arena and the one, but he
got like pushing two arms up and said go back
and go come back again. He's like, uh, that is
like a security thing.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know, and wouldn't let hums out in the building.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
He's like he doesn't let to get in and like,
I'm not like Bob pushing.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And then when when we.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Were in locker room, like they called police, you know,
they take him out, and they came back and again
take him out.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He came back, and then even Garretty the same ship.
You know, what do you got? And then even Garty
he got two and that the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Pushing in Garrett too. Yeah, that is so crazy. Hey,
it's gonna be Jack Della mattal leaning that bad? Was that?
Were you surprised he killed he killed him? Bro?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, I thought Islam gonna win him, but not like
that was it was like so easy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't know Islam now right now on the his prime.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
How he feels distance, how he strives, how he's calm,
and you see he does like he moves so good.
He doesn't spend like like energy, you know, just shoot
on the right time, pine on the right time and
take him down so easy. I don't know, like what
Jake Madelana was doing old training can he doesn't defend.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
He didn't defend even one takedown.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's like crazy, Yeah, it was only some of these
guys like I'm very confused, right, Like Drake is du
plus C and Jack like knowing who they were gonna fight,
how they didn't recognize the takedowns were coming. Tom's out
with shooting on Drake's just shooting on him. I mean,
Drake is how many times did duplus c like sprawl?
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He didn't really even get the sprawl many times because
Hamza was just taking him down so quickly. And it
felt like the same thing with Jack, like when Islam
would kick him, kick him, kick him, then the moment
he would shoot, grab him, put him down, it was
it was over before it ever got started. It was
a it was very surprising how easily he dominated Jack
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Della Matta Lena in that fight.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
But yeah, it is Let's see, Islam is a He's
a beast right now.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, he's real. Yeah, he's a real pound for pound
right now.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, what else you got to say, Chap, what else
you got to say about this title fight? Anything you
want to tell Elliott to Pouria. Anything you want to
tell the UFC before I let you go.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, I just want to say, I get your bows
and take the fight. Let's let's make it happen people,
he's waiting for that fight. Don't like try to make
ww fight. It's a it's there is a contender Number one.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Hey, Patty, he gonna find you some donuts. Patty Pibley going.
When you see Patty Pibleery, he gonna lose his mind
on you. He gonna get you at least, gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Try any any day, anywhere. Just just the.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, you're the man Orman a dude. Congratulations white success. Guys.
That's Armas rookie on go follow his Instagram, Twitter everything.
This dude eating has now become a thing. Like I
don't even understand how you could just eat and people
are so enamored with you eating.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
From I won't title five. I'm like, I got six seven.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Like million views, or I got the OI, I got
the I got the victory, and I got like seven
stand I don't know the uses. I like just eating
some caveers. Is that twenty views? Fifteen million views? I'm
like you were like and like you're feeling on your phone,
you know, no, like uh yeah, the fan of the
(25:03):
photographer a video grop for you. Don't spend money, you
just enjoying eating and like getting crazy views. People like
people He's like text me, bro, please pause how you
eat and like put the mic on you on your
shirt and they want to hear how you eating?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
They want to hear you chew. Yeah, that is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I mean maybe for you, but people like.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Like you want to hear somebody eat arm chew.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I mean not loudly, but it's just like but when
I'm on that that sometimes I watch like.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
This video as well.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, when you're on diet, yeah, because you're starving. When
I would make two oh five, I only watch like
barbecue cooking shows like lay in the bed all day,
watch people make food.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Same same.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
All right, man, Hey you enjoy Dubai guys, that's arm
and Seroukian. Until next time, Like, subscribe and tell your
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Some guys, welcome to another episode. Today, I'm joined by
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you go to Doha and minus eight hundred, you're the favorite.
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You not only win the fight though you dominated Dan Hooker.
Did you know you would beat him up in that way?
Were you confident that you could dominate him in the
way that you did.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I was super confident, but I never understimate him because
it's a fight.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
He's dangerous under defeat.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
He has good striking, dangerous knees, keeps, you know. And
I was preparing, like for my title fight. Same so
I I treat the training camp that I'm fighting for
the title.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
If I am gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Look bad during the fight, even wing but barely win,
I can't forget about the title. That's why I was
super motivated, super confident, and I knew I'm going there,
I'm dominated, I'm gonna dominate and get the finished.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But you but you beat him or you were fighting him,
and the last time you lost the fight was against
his game Rock.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I didn't. I didn't lose that fight. Bad decision, right,
that bad decision.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But on record lost two Oliver to Hooker two. Yes,
I beat everybody, and I beat Gambro as well.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yes, but when you watch him beat gam Rock right,
and Gamrock wasn't able to take him down When you
were preparing though, did you kind of have that in
your mind, like, well, Gamrod wants to wrestle and he
couldn't take him down. Maybe this guy's take down the
fits is improved to the point that it might be
a little more difficult. I might have to stand with him.
And how quickly in the fight did you realize there's
(02:19):
no way this guy can keep me on my feet?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, in this sport there is a levels.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You know when you watch fight and you can understand,
like you can take him down, you can hold him.
Gambrod has a he doesn't believe on his striking, and
he shoots from far far away, and then he doesn't
have good control on the bottom. You know, he can
take down people, but he cannot control on the bottom.
(02:47):
And that's his problem. But I'm opposite, and I didn't
think like I couldn't hold him on the on the ground.
And when I took him down, when I when I
was on the on the top on the second round,
I knew I'm gonna finish him.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
How do you know?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I just felt he.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Was kind of often when I threw the knee in
the first round, he was bobbling, and and the second
round when I started punching, grounding, when I started ground
him do the grund pound, he I started feeling like
he's like so weak already, you know, and he wanted
(03:26):
to give up already. And when I get.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The arm triangle, I thought, like, no way he can
get out of here.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I don't just you know what's crazy, Like this does
not work if you have good And then I changed,
but I understand, but if you have but if you
have a good arm triangleen someone just do this. That's
not gonna stop.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
No, no, no, I still chuck it. If someone does this,
I'll chuck.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
If someone's gonna grab his leg that I'm not gonna chuck.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, like this it's easy money for me too.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. People think like this answer in the phone. It's
gonna stop a good it's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's nothing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If you gotta give your back or you gotta hold
your leg to hold your leg.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Got you gotta find a way to like get some
space in here. When you do this, it doesn't give space.
You need to find a way to get the space
off of this ship.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The best thing is the turn and go on your body. Yeah,
that's the best thing because you have no choice.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Everybody like, it's like whenever you're on someone's back and
you gotta go to let get in the mount, and
then when they get in the mount, you gotta go
to your back. You guys, it's like you gotta choose
between bad positions and then hopefully that in one of
those transitions you get away from the guy. But you
can feel when you're on top of someone, you can
feel their energy. You can almost feel their posture. And
(04:52):
when their posture starts to tell you it's time to
get them out of there, you can go get them
out of there. You did that to Dan Hooker. Here's
the problem, arman. You're fighting this dude right when you
really don't have much to gain. All you have to
gain is what you already have. The number one contender.
You were the number one contender back in January, So why.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Did you just prove it again? I just I just
prove it again. I know to prove I just prove
it again, and I should again. Everybody like I'm a
real deal. It's not just I'm run number one. Just
I'm not fake like Petty pemelet making rank by their self.
And you see Teller bring him up because we want
(05:35):
to give him title.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Fight or I don't know what they want to do
with him. I am. I was.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I was beating everybody, and I was deserved every spot.
You know, I was top fifteen, top twelve, top ten,
top nine, top five, top three, top one, and now
I'm top one and I beat it again and prove
it again. I'm number one contender, and now they have.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No choice not to give me a title fight.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So you when you fought in January, when we're supposed
to fight in January, it didn't happen. It felt like
there was gonna be a punishment, and then you go
and you make the way that's the backup fighter for
the title fight. I was thinking to myself, okay, that
should give him good favor. Now you might see armand
fight for the belt. But then you take the Dan
Hooker fight when you don't have to take the Dan
Hooker fight because once again you're the number one contender,
(06:31):
you take it, You dominate him, you win the fight.
Patty Pimlin, though, when he went into that octagon Arman
playing the devil's advocate, there's a visual right of you
of him standing in front of Iliot the Pooria with
the belt. It's hard for the fan to like not
remember seeing that, and they go, well, the guy that
(06:52):
was in there is a number one contender. How do
you make them outside of you just dominating realize you're
a number And why didn't Ilia go in the ring
with you on Saturday? Because if Ilia goes in the
ring and you two stand, now people forget about Patty Pemblet.
Why didn't he go in there?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Because he doesn't want to fight me, he's scared of me,
and he knows why I should take dangerous fight with
armand his real contender. It's easier to beat petty people
that make easy fight and go move up and Arman
can be a champion in one fifty five and I'm
going up and fight with the third title. It's the
(07:34):
best case scenario for him, and he's thinking for easy fights,
you know, making good money.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Were you disappointed though, Like, did you think that he
might go into the ring with you and try to
get that moment? Because the moment is really what it's
all about, right, me and brock Lesnar one time, you
remember me and brock Lesno, we fight in the octagon.
They were gonna let me fight brock Lesner because he
came in the octagon. Were you were you hopeful that
he could possibly like go in there and try to
(08:05):
build the fire.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I thought he has a he had the balls, and
that he was there and sitting watching my fight. But
he left, and he left and he didn't want to
even be there, and he didn't get in in the case.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
But even the camera even if like when you're in there,
they pan the camera to him.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's like he just turned his face and like and
that doesn't want to even watch straight to me.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, you think this guy, you think he's afraid
of you, Army.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
No, he just avoiding me not doing anything from the
media versus him because he wants to create something with Spetty.
He doesn't want to even mention my name and he
just created like some crazy things, like he's slapping me
and like.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Everything he said, slap He said, he slap you, army,
he said, he slap you. Hey, but man slap you.
If a man slap you, you can't really say much
about it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
If we slap you, oh my god, if he slapped me.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He slapt his brother, his friends, his teammater, his coach.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He slapt everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Every day he's like, uh yeah everybody. I was like, yo,
when I see that he's hugging his brother like this,
like on the neck, like me, and like one coach
like said, oh my god, you slapping your your brother
as well?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Wait wait, wait wait the coach said.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
This to no.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, no, the one Armenian coach posted and said, oh
you're slapping your your brother as well.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But he didn't like it. Didn't look like he slapped you.
Look like he kind of touched you on the face.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, he just came said, oh, brother, how are you
wait he said he is dead. No, he said, he said, brother,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
This is just media thing, this.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Dad, And and then he said yeah, you see told
me you Next I said yes finally and now after
when he and after that he beat OLIVERA and he
just hiding.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Wait so this was This wasn't last week when you
touched your face. This was before it was before the
fight week with OLIVERA. Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
When he thought that was Oliver I was back out.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, you're like, yo, this is crazy. This guy did
not slap me. But this is what we want though,
this is what the fans want. The fans want.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's good. Yeah, he can, he can say whatever he
wants to say. You know, yeah, I just I just
I don't know. I cannot be like that, do you? So?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is it disappointing though that you haven't I mean, have
you been told that you're next? Have you been told
that you're next?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I haven't been talking. I didn't talk to them yet.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You walked right to the side where to what saying?
And you did the belt side.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You're like, yo, I'm I said Bell. Bell.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
He said, we will think or I don't know what
he said. Yeah, he said, yeah, I would think about that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But what do you have? Like, what do you have?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know, Maybe beat a couple more contenders, or
maybe they're gonna bring someone from Japan, some debut guy
and they gotta beat him, like pantoja did and I
don't know?
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you fight again before he get in the title fight?
No way, No, you shouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
If it's not col MacGregor, I will fight.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You want to fight com McGregor man, He said, did
you see Conda McGregor say he went on his spiritual journey?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He said, he went on his never fight me and
the UC never let me fight.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's a night.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
He went on the s but he said, he goes on.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's the same thing like with Patty Pelet. Like people
is laughing, you know, So you.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Don't think that Patty Pimlet has anything for illiot to
pour you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No way, you don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Why did you see what he did to Michael Chandler destroyed.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Michael Chandler okay, how many like Mike.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But but but he's forty years old. He has six
losses or or two wings on you see him.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And he had like four loses win streak.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
He he he's nobody.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
He just tried to make him like Arthur Gary or.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Who wanted they to do him like a superstar or no.
But yeah, he showed good fights. But but he's not
elite fighter. There is a there's levels, you know when
you see.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And uh, Perry.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Cannot beat even Ali Vera, cannot beat even Hooker. He
cannot be he cannot beat for, he cannot beat He
cannot beat all Away.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He cannot beat me.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If he's gonna beat even even Gage, I'm gonna say, yeah,
this guy is good.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
So you don't think Patty's very good?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
His sun? What do you mean you think he's good?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You think he's good. If you say you're good, I'm
gonna turn off.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
This Armond Wait wait, listen. He's a good grappler. He's
a very good grappling. He's very big for the weight class.
Remember who can I finish? Did you see when he
fight King Green? He hit King Green, drop him and
choke him out?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Who is King Green?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Bobby Kreen Green, Bobby King Green. He changed his name
now only King Green, not Bobby Green.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Bobby Green, and the MMA is different grappling and Bob
Bobby Green is.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Where's Bobby Green's grappling brother? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, listen to me. You know who he is, right,
you know who Bobby Green is?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Bobby Green?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, I know he's good striker.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Roh, my brother he never trained.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
M m A.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I swear if they're gonna be on the on the
street fight, my brother will kill him so easy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You guys have a problem, right you Bobby Green?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And no, we have not. We have no problems.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You slap him, You slap just saying I'm just no,
I didn't slap him.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I just pushed him.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's a it's a different if you slap somebody you wanna,
it's a different.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I just pushed him to the neck. I'm not bullshit
like uh.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Even if I push, I said I push. Okay, to
be honest, tell Bobby Green he's a no high level fighter.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Send him to Dugis three years.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So you say he has no chance versus illiot. It
just feels like that that moment was missed last weekend
for you guys to kind of come face to face
and make it happen, because at the end of the
day you might not think much of Patty, but Illi
is good. He's very very good, hits hard. He comes
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from a grappling wrestling background, is what he said, right,
that's like his background more than even striking. What would
your approach be to him? I mean, I know you
use the wrestling as beautiful as anybody in the game,
But when you fight a guy who has that danger
right in the hands, like the Pouria, how do you
approach that? How would you beat illiot to pooria nobody.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Has I'll beat him everywhere. Just tell me how you
want to see that fight. I'll make it happen. I
think i'll him out.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Oh yeah, I like that. I like when you do
the ax kick Horman. You got very athletic.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'll make him tired and I'll throw my obskick and
I came out.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's that's my plan.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, so big one last weekend. Now you're relaxing, bro,
you're eating camel back. What you're doing eating camel back? Man,
that shouldn't look disgusting. It's not good.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
No camera was so delicious. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It was maybe off to the fire I I was.
I was on the diet long time, That's what I maybe.
But Coma was young.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Kama was super delicious and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What it tastes like.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What it tastes like between beef and lamb, beef and lamb? Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah? Yeah, I shouldn't look disgusting too much fat. It
was like a lot of fat on the back.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah. You don't need fat.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't I don't need fat a army. I gotta
be honest, man, you take your shirt off right next
to me. People confused, they don't know who's Armor Taroukian
and who's Daniel Cormier. We looked just the same you
and need the same in the in and out and
then the in and out burger and all the other
stuff you live in life.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I'm very happy for you.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
If you want this title fight right, potentially it could
happen at the very beginning of next year. Do you
go right back in the training camp? No problem?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, just fly out there tomorrow and start my training
camp back home. No.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
No, If it's going to be in US, I'll fly
to Yes. Yeah, you stay in Los Angeles, Los Angeles
or Miami.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah is nice?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Hey do you like him in Dubai relaxing one week
and then back to works?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah? Yeah, that's awesome. Hey what about your dad? Like
he's like now like a major player in MMA, Like
everybody you.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
See how he likes slammed the almost kill him.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I was, I was laughing so long and like it
was like a double slab.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
His dad is like a major player that I mean, Now,
everybody loved this guy. Oh all good man. Hey, I'm
happy for you, bro. I hope you get this title fight.
I'm telling you, man, you were the number one contender
in January. You're the number one contender today. And if
you aren't fighting for the title, I don't understand. I
really don't understand how anyone could be in there above you,
(20:34):
especially with how competitive and how good of a fight
it would be between you and Illiot to pour you. Hey,
what happened? What happened with Ian Gary and Humsa? Ian Gary?
He grabbed Humsack.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Boll Homsad has a to and O that day?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We just came from the bas and like we're getting
into the to the arena and the one, but he
got like pushing two arms up and said go back
and go come back again. He's like, uh, that is
like a security thing.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know, and wouldn't let hums out in the building.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
He's like he doesn't let to get in and like,
I'm not like Bob pushing.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And then when when we.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Were in locker room, like they called police, you know,
they take him out, and they came back and again
take him out.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
He came back, and then even Garretty the same ship.
You know, what do you got? And then even Garty
he got two and that the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Pushing in Garrett too. Yeah, that is so crazy. Hey,
it's gonna be Jack Della mattal leaning that bad? Was that?
Were you surprised he killed he killed him? Bro?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, I thought Islam gonna win him, but not like
that was it was like so easy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't know Islam now right now on the his prime.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
How he feels distance, how he strives, how he's calm,
and you see he does like he moves so good.
He doesn't spend like like energy, you know, just shoot
on the right time, pine on the right time and
take him down so easy. I don't know, like what
Jake Madelana was doing old training can he doesn't defend.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
He didn't defend even one takedown.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's like crazy, Yeah, it was only some of these
guys like I'm very confused, right, Like Drake is du
plus C and Jack like knowing who they were gonna fight,
how they didn't recognize the takedowns were coming. Tom's out
with shooting on Drake's just shooting on him. I mean,
Drake is how many times did duplus c like sprawl?
(22:58):
He didn't really even get the sprawl many times because
Hamza was just taking him down so quickly. And it
felt like the same thing with Jack, like when Islam
would kick him, kick him, kick him, then the moment
he would shoot, grab him, put him down, it was
it was over before it ever got started. It was
a it was very surprising how easily he dominated Jack
(23:19):
Della Matta Lena in that fight.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
But yeah, it is Let's see, Islam is a He's
a beast right now.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, he's real. Yeah, he's a real pound for pound
right now.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, what else you got to say, Chap, what else
you got to say about this title fight? Anything you
want to tell Elliott to Pouria. Anything you want to
tell the UFC before I let you go.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, I just want to say, I get your bows
and take the fight. Let's let's make it happen people,
he's waiting for that fight. Don't like try to make
ww fight. It's a it's there is a contender Number one.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Hey, Patty, he gonna find you some donuts. Patty Pibley going.
When you see Patty Pibleery, he gonna lose his mind
on you. He gonna get you at least, gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Try any any day, anywhere. Just just the.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, you're the man Orman a dude. Congratulations white success. Guys.
That's Armas rookie on go follow his Instagram, Twitter everything.
This dude eating has now become a thing. Like I
don't even understand how you could just eat and people
are so enamored with you eating.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
From I won't title five. I'm like, I got six seven.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Like million views, or I got the OI, I got
the I got the victory, and I got like seven
stand I don't know the uses. I like just eating
some caveers. Is that twenty views? Fifteen million views? I'm
like you were like and like you're feeling on your phone,
you know, no, like uh yeah, the fan of the
(25:03):
photographer a video grop for you. Don't spend money, you
just enjoying eating and like getting crazy views. People like
people He's like text me, bro, please pause how you
eat and like put the mic on you on your
shirt and they want to hear how you eating?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
They want to hear you chew. Yeah, that is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I mean maybe for you, but people like.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Like you want to hear somebody eat arm chew.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I mean not loudly, but it's just like but when
I'm on that that sometimes I watch like.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
This video as well.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, when you're on diet, yeah, because you're starving. When
I would make two oh five, I only watch like
barbecue cooking shows like lay in the bed all day,
watch people make food.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Same same.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
All right, man, Hey you enjoy Dubai guys, that's arm
and Seroukian. Until next time, Like, subscribe and tell your
friends about my YouTube channel. I'm talking to guys like
the Great arm and Seroukian. Until next time. Peace,
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.