Episode 11: The Big Reveal!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
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of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. The thoughts and
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Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I
Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network.
Welcome to my show. Member. Each week on this program,
it is all about trying to help everyone come to
an understanding that the paranormal is not so out of

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the ordinary, and if you've experienced anything out of the ordinary,
I welcome you to submit your story, your insights, and
your questions and put as much detail as you'd like
and submit it through my main website, which is Heidi
Hollis dot com. Now, please know when you go to

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that site, there's a lot of different bits of information
my work, and I'm even a comic strip artist the paranormal.
I feel it's very important to deal with these topics
as we do for any topic. Humanly flawed, sense of
humor and all of the above. We're gonna make mistakes,

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and no one has all of the answers. And I
always say, if someone tells you they do apps, run
as fast as you can away from them. Together, let's
try to find the best solutions and comment add to
the conversation, don't detract. It's not about a competition. And

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the strangest thing I believe I ever found here in
the paranormal world as someone who traveled to a lot
of conferences, a lot of people are very competitive, and
I could never understand that, but it did allow me
to understand why we haven't gotten as far as we
actually should. But I remember being that person going to

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these conferences, attending just hoping to meet some of these authors,
these researchers who I thought could really help me out,
and for the most part, they look down their nose
at me. But I can't say that for everyone. Of course,
I've met some wonderful people along the way, and a
lot of people who have contributed so very much, and

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I'm very appreciative. But when you meet some of those
folks that you really really hoped could help, and when
they slam you, it's harmful because it's one of those
bits of research, one of those corners of the universe
where we are still developing, we are still digging, and

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for someone to say to you or to me, not possible.
I've been researching this a long time. Is no way
something like that can happen. But it happens, and it's heartbreaking.
I hear these stories and I don't want to be
that researcher. I don't want to be the person who
snubs and looks down on people. So I always say, look,

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anything is possible through God and his creations. Come on, now,
are there any limitations? Really? I don't think so, So
please forgive me if I ever trip up, or if
I ever say not in my understand endings. From my experience,
it happens, yes, And I have said, well, that's not
the general pattern. But I like listening to the stories.

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I am still growing, I'm still learning. And today I'm
going to talk about a subject that, Wow, something I've
spoken about a million times, but this show in particular today,
maybe the most important show that I've had ever been
speaking on the topic of hat Man, because you guys,

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I think I know who he is. I think I've
found him. It's a big story. It's something that has
me kind of tripping in my mind of my goodness,
how do I present this. I'm not quite the expert
and where I'm going with this, But today I'm going
to tell you a long story, and I think I

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have to start kind of from the beginning and then
just grow from there and hope that we all come
to the same conclusions. Because Wow, like I said, I'm
always growing, I'm always learning, and my gosh, I would
have never thought that I would be coming here today
to talk to you about this in particular. So again,

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probably not since I first introduced the subject of shadow
People and hat Man have I had a more important
conversation on the air. When I first introduced the topic
of shadow People, it took me a few years before
I really wanted to address the topic of hat Man
because every time I would lean towards that and I

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saw thousands, I'm not exaggerating thousands of emails coming in
about this guy, this man in a hat and black
suit and trench coat. Who sits in the shadows but
then can step out of the shadows having glowing red eyes,
or can be clean shaven or whatever it is. So
many stories came in and people, one by one, we're

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asking me, who is this guy? He's the devil, isn't
he like? They would answer their own question. And after
it personally affected people in my family and people around me,
I saw the pattern, and whenever I stepped towards it,
problems happened. People would call me, why can't I sleep, Hidie,
what are you doing? They would know to look at

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my direction, and I didn't like what I was seeing.
I actually reached out to Lorraine Warren and uh, I
was like, my goodness, I have found something and I'm
not liking what I see and got an email back
that said call me sometime. I was living in Australia

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at the time and surely couldn't afford the phone call
as I was living on a very very thin budget
while I was abroad over there, So I ever did
get that phone call in before she sadly passed away.
But I'll tell you when I finally got the guts
to start talking about what I called initially hat Man

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shadow I corrected myself to finally just call him hat
Man because he was different. He could step out of
those shadows. A lot of people describe him as just
being absent of light, but very distinctively a man in
a trench coat or cape, in a top hat, or
sometimes no hat at all. It was highly disturbing to

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come across these stories, to hear the anguish and the horror.
My emails went from one being on the topic of aliens,
two shadow people, then introducing hat Man, and it still
remains about hat Man stories. It was this very disturbing

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progression towards more and more horrific things, and the more
I got, the more clearly they were all related, even
the ghostly phenomena poulter Geist, near death experiences. It got
creepier and creepier, and I had to learn to become

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braver and braver, taking closer steps and looking into these things,
and also preparing those around me, because I couldn't slow
down because these things were going after them, so I
had to take the time to show them, Hey, protect yourself,
this is how you do it. I can't help that
these things go after them, but would pretty much leave

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me alone. To a greater extent, I couldn't always understand
why that happened. I had my fair share of having
strange things come at me and negative things and shadow people,
but I had to learn. And as I got stronger,
those around me didn't always keep up with their strength,
and they would go towards them because they saw a

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way to get at me by upsetting those close to me.
And it didn't matter even if they were co workers.
Just highly disturbing the things that would go on. But
I'm glad that my friends and family have learned and
I can continue to progress and help others progress. Now
that I am talking freely on the shadow people and

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especially Hatman phenomena, I've seen patterns. Of course, I've talked
about that here on the program many at times, and
on hundreds of programs over the years. These patterns have
worried me. Now I know that I've shared on many occasions,

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kind of skipping tons of chapters in the story of
my life and even in my books about these beings
and all of their workings and what we should do
to keep them away from us. But do you guys
remember where I came from on this this information that
I have on these beings. It's not from me just guessing.

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I remember a lot of things before coming here to
this world, as strange as that sounds, but a lot
of people kind of remember being a spirit of some
kind and choosing their parents. I'm sure you've heard these
stories if you look into stranger topics. But my background

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is a little bit m I don't know different. I
remember coming from a light. I remember agreeing to be
born here to work on the things that I'm working
on now. And wow, it's brought me full circle to
the point that I am here today. And sure there's

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a lot of things I recall, but I don't have
the whole picture. I am not able to recall absolutely everything,
and I know that was done on purpose. I was
told that. UM, I feel that I've been fortunate and openly,
and how can I say? I feel that I have

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been guided? And there's just no better, easier way to
put that. And yes, some of it has been very divine.
I have had Jesus encounters, I have had angelic encounters,
and I've been always open about that and put it
in books and talked about it whenever people would allow
me to. UM, It's not one of those topics that

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are as welcomed as demons and go figure. But I've
always been rather resilient and always put that in with
whatever it is I do. So today I'm going to
go more in depth on some things that I think
are going to be really amazing to you as they
have been to me. Has you have never heard this before,

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so you are getting an exclusive right here on Dark
Becomes Light with Me. Wow. And to have learned even
recently that people have been studying this very topic for many,
many years and have been trying to find this answer,

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and literally, with a glance, I was able to come
to a conclusion that just seems to have been waiting
for me. Not many people could have done this. So wow,
absolutely humbling. There's a reason why I apparently trademarked the
modern day devil in our world today. Everything happens for

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a reason. You guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes
Light with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio
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Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio
and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. Today, as
I mentioned in the first segment, we are going to
speak more in depth on something that I feel is
probably the most important discovery I've had in my research
when it comes to the topic of hat Man and Wow,

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it's a doozy guys. Um. So I was sharing a
little bit about my background. I didn't come across this
information about hat Man and shadow people in the past
on my own I always say we all contribute to
the answers that we find in this life. And I
definitely have been the recipient of wonderful people in my

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life who I feel point me in a direction to
pay attention over here, look over there, And when we
do pay attention to our friends and family and why
does somebody come to mind or why are they saying this?
Or why did they have a dream about me? And
if we pay attention and we take those hints in, wow,
it really really can be revealing and it can really

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help others and potentially the world. I would have never
thought in a million years that it would be me
that's introducing a topic so so beyond and so dark.
But I'll tell you something, way back when my very

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first interview that I ever gave on the air was
on a very popular program. It was a competitor to
Coast to Coast AM. It was called Sightings with Jeff Rentz.
My interview was something that has one for the books,

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I guess you could say. And what I'm going to do,
I'm going to place that interview on my website so
you can all read it and see what it was
I was speaking of. Even way back when the unfortunate
problem that I have. Literally, while I was recording this podcast,
I went to go grab the link to this website

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that's been up for literally twenty two years online. It's
called Reptilian Agenda, and it was David Ike's old website,
and this interview sat there, and David Ike and his
companions that he worked with at the time heard my
interview and they felt it was so important that they

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literally typed it all up and placed it on their website.
I was, of course honored, and I'll be honest, at
the time, I didn't know who he was, but people
kept comparing me to him, and I couldn't name the beings,
shadow people and hat man as to the entities I
was meaning during this interview. Okay, I was literally told

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if I did, the information could die with me, right,
So I was to publish this book and then I
could speak freely. So I was overly anxious to get
my book, called The Secret War the Heavens Speak of
the Battle. I changed the subtitle of it to the
true story of a real alien war and shadow People.

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So here's David Ike, who they're all comparing me to,
contacts me and says, hey, we could publish your book.
There's an anonymous donor who's shown up and says they
would like to help publish your books. So I'm of
course ecstatic. I wrote this book in It took me
two months to write the book, and sadly things fell through.

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Four years later I finally got to publish. But in
December of ninety nine is when this interview was done,
and when David Ike and his company contacted me. So
long story short, excited to get that put together with him.
And but the interesting part is Reptilian Agenda website has

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been up there for all this time, and I was
just looking for the link to make sure I could
place it on my website for all of you to read.
I had just looked at this, I had just shared this,
probably mistakenly on Messenger and online with a friend of mine.
And now the website has gone. Who knows, maybe it'll

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pop back up. But I find it really strange after
twenty two years it's been sitting there. But nonetheless, go
to my website. I will have the interview up there
for you now to discuss why that was important, because
you'll see consistently I've spoken about these strange things for

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a very long time. My background can be a little
bit complicated, but I've always been me. I've always been
as honest as I possibly can about the things that
I've experienced, just because that's just all I know, is
to be as painfully honest as possible, and in the
face of something that I do take seriously, though, I

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do know how to take a joke, even in the
face of the paranormal. Again, I find that important to
keep our humanity and everything. Now what I'm going to
talk about here. From the beginning, I was given information
from be things that some would call angelic, some would

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call alien. Some of them do kind of distinctly have
a look of angelic beings, white robes, blonde hair, blue
eyes type of beings. And then there are some that
don't look like you or I. So it's been quite
quite an interesting bit of experiences that I've had. And

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and again I've always put it together and just put
it out there, like, look, have a look at this.
I'm looking at this because I think it's helpful for
us all to know and chime in on things. So
I've always put things out there. Now when I have
in the past, I have essentially shared what it is
that I know. I know that there's a dark force

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that's here that doesn't quite come from here, though it's
been here for a very long time. And this dark
force has done this to other planets. Now this comes
in the form of minions of this dark force called
shadow people. And then there is this guy called hat Man.

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Those are the names that I gave them. They were
just more descriptive, and I felt kind of encompassed what
it is that I had experienced, as well as those
closest to me. Now, giving these names that was on me,
the beings that I spoke with, they would call them shadows.
And this one in particular, hat Man, he revealed what

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his name was to others and those that were in
his presence, and he would essentially say he was the
devil himself. That's a pretty tall order. And I'm someone
who has experienced Jesus, I have experienced angels. Of course,

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there's an opposing force to the positive, and it is
this darkness. And so many people have asked, is there
more than one hat Man? He's just so all over
the place, and I'm like, well, God can be all
over the place, too, And if this is the opposing
force to the goodness. I'm pretty sure he can spread
it pretty dawn far and wide as well and influence

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and do horrific things. Now, I've had my head down
working on informing you the listener, or anybody who would
pick up a book or see me at a conference,
doing what it is I know that I agreed to
do in this lifetime. But also some of those things
involved me responding to many of your emails, doing a

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lot of interviews, maintaining websites, Facebook groups, you name it.
I was doing it. I was really doing my best
to keep the word out there, to keep the warning
going as so many people were taking parts of my
information and putting the wrong message out there, and a

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lot of different media forms. So during my time of
keeping my head down trying to work on these things,
I have missed some of these projects going out and
everybody assumes is that your work, Well, it is my material,
but it's not my work, just others trying to make
entertainment out of these topics. And when they mix the

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wrong bit of information, they cause a lot of harm.
And I hear about it when people reach out to
me asking me why something was done one way. Thus,
the reason for having to trademark things so I can
pull it in and try to help people in the
right way and to try to stop some of the
nonsense that's going on out there. But in keeping my

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head down, I also missed some elements of information that
could have been helpful along the way. But when you
come up with something that has never been heard of before,
when you give a title and definition to the world
as being the only person who has really done this,
when it comes to the paranormal, I wasn't easily distractable.

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And to go back a little bit, I know what
it sounds like. But as I said, you've heard of
people say, I remember before I was born, I chose
you as my parents. So I remember coming from a
bright light. I remember agreeing to be working on what
it is I'm working on right now with these dark elements,

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and warning people to prepare for the secret war. So
I wasn't digging and looking. I was very busy trying
to help people actively today. Historically, yes, there's been a
lot of stories about things being negative and horrible and evil,
but what was going on today was so pressing, and

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I'm just one person trying to do all these things.
I don't have a team. I don't have any of that.
It's just me working for you. I don't charge for
my services. And yes, these dark beings taken us on
one on one in the privacy of our own homes,
our lives, while driving a car doesn't even seem to matter.

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We are fighting this battle now. These things are coming
at us. And there is one in particular who makes
sure you see him, and that's the hat Man. Now,
the hat man. People don't always get to see his face.
They don't always get to see his skin. They don't
always get to see if he's clean shaven or or whatever.

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They don't always get to see details. They will see
this distinctive absence of light, shadow of a man who
may or may not have a hat, who may switch
up his outfit just a little bit. But I'll tell
you one thing. In the beginning, there were distinctive stories,
especially in the beginning, of what his face look like.

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And I still get these very very regularly, you could say,
and to get the face was very important. Little did
I know his face has changed a little bit. But
there's a reason behind why his face has changed. But
the story I'm going to tell you today, that changing

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face and the meaning behind him changing it up, and
the meaning behind why recognizing his face is so important today.
It's going to blow your mind, so please stick with me.
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M Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, I was
discussing something very important and how this program today maybe
the most important show I've done on the topic of
hat Man since I first introduced him to the world.
It sounds like a big, long story of that just

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can't be possible, but I am not even exaggerating. So
to continue my story more recently, I have a good
friend who was actually a guest on this program named
Maureen Sieberg, and she is a wonderful author former New
York Times journalist science reporter for psychology Today. The list

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goes on and on about her gifts and the things
that she is able to do, conceive, and interpret. So
more recently, she thought, Heidi, I really want you to
listen in on something. And um, you know, when you
come across new information and it's like words that you're
just not used to hearing, and it's like definitions of things,

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and my head is already full of enough things. And
I'm like, Okay, you know, I'll have to sit down
and pay attention to some of this information she's sent
my way, and I I did, and then I didn't,
and then I did, and then I did. It's something
that you have to take in little bits. And then
she's like, Heidi, I want you to look at this
image of something that was introduced in the middle of

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some of this information I told you about. I'm like, okay,
I take a look at this image and what it is.
It is a sculpture that's someone created a hundred years
ago by the name of Rudolph Steiner. Do you guys
know who Rudolf Steiner is? I personally had never heard

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of him. I'd never heard of his work. I never
heard of what he did. I had my head down.
I knew what I needed to do in this lifetime,
and that was introducing these topics of shadow people, hat
Man and making sure that the right message gets put
out there, the warning and getting people prepared for the

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onslaught of these dark things. And I guess I have
blinders on to a certain extent. And of course I'm Christian.
Talk about Jesus all the time here on the program,
and how those things intermit extend what's important. I keep
my eyes on it. I know what I'm supposed to
be doing. And then of course I do comic strips
the Outlanders comic dot com. Just in case you Kais

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are interested, I do have a big sense of humor.
Now let me read off who Rudolf Steiner is really quickly.
Rudolf Steiner was born in February eighteen sixty one and
died March thirtieth, ninety. This comes to us from Britannica
dot com. And he was an Austrian born spiritualist, lecturer

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and founder of anthroposophy, which is a movement based on
the notion that there is a spiritual world comprehensible to
pure thought. But accessible only to the highest faculties of
mental knowledge. Steiner believed that humans once participated more fully
in spiritual processes of the world through a dream like consciousness,

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but had since become restricted by their attachment to material things.
The renewed perception of spiritual things required training the human
consciousness to rise above attention to matter. The ability to
achieve this goal by an exercise of the intellect is
theoretically innate to everyone. He is also the creator of

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something called guthen M, which he characterized as a school
of spiritual science. The Waldorf school movement derived from his
experiments with the Gulfenum. By the twenty one century, there
are more than one thousand Waldorf schools around the world,
and other projects that grew out of Steiner's work included

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communities for persons with disabilities, a therapeutic clinical center in Switzerland,
scientific and mathematical research centers, and schools of drama, speech, painting,
and sculpture. And among many of his writings, one of
him is called the Philosophy a Spiritual Activity eighteen ninety four.

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This man was a genius, and his work lives on
well beyond his time here on this planet. Now hearing
and learning about such a man. It's like I don't know,
discovering a mountain in your backyard all of a sudden,
like wow, how did I not see that? How did
I not notice this? And I feel again like I

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have blinders on, just moving through life doing the things
that I knew I was supposed to be doing, and
to be introduced to his information the transformation. Now, when
it comes to hat Man, these are some of the
things that I know about him. He limits people who
have special abilities. Most importantly, a lot of people think,

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well I did something wrong. I worshiped Satanic stuff. Okay,
that may attract something pretty evil, so that doesn't see
prize me. But more often than not, and I've said
this for years now, hat Man really pays attention to
people who are gifted, who have special sight or insight,
who are very spiritually inclined and aware consciousness highly elevated.

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I mean, these are patterns I have noticed, and and
people do feel a lot more relieved to know, like, oh,
thank goodness, I thought I was just going to go
to Hell or something. Here I'm seeing something that feels
like the devil, and I know it is, and it's
getting closer and closer. It's harassing me. It's this, it's that.

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So imagine this. My friend introduces me to listening to
some information about Rudolf Steiner. I'm like, I'm trying to
let it sink in. I'm trying to let it sink in.
And then she says, here, have a look at this
image of something Rudolf Steiner sculpted. And immediately I see

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this and I'm like, well, that's hat Man. She's like,
are you serious? I said, that's hat Man. That is
the look of hat Man. That is the original look
of hat Man. Now that's not what they called it.
What they called the sculpture that I was looking at

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was called Ariman. I'm like, what is going on here? Okay?
I know this thing looks like hat Man. Okay. So
then I listened to some more information about this areman,
and I want to read to you what Ariman is
considered to be. Okay, Ariman is the evil spirit and

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early Iranian religion. I'm going to miss his name up
zero Astrianism and Zoorovianism, lord of darkness and chaos and
the source of human confusion, disappointment, and strife. That's interesting enough,
but it gets better. Ariman is also considered to be
a demon of intellect, which includes worldly knowledge, science and technology,

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where he essentially offers mankind a kind of mastery of
this physical world, you know, like the devil saying I'll
give you everything, but he will also lure us into
excessively diving into materialism and leaving thoughts of our souls behind.
It said that Ariman will reincarnate sometime. His impending incarnation

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hangs like this threat over modern life. Now, when you
think about people having their faces in their cell phones
or their computers, or their video games or their television,
this is kind of like what they're talking about. We're
losing our sense of self. We're involved in this virtual world. Okay.

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And even as I listened finally to some of the
information about Rodolf Steiner and some of the information he
was dishing out, this rammonic like presence is this disregard
for humanity being human and encouraging this transhumanism like movement

(37:10):
to be more intertwined with technology. Then I hear of
this talk of him trying to create this false place
that souls will be trapped. This is also something that
I've been talking about for years. It's something I've written about.
These souls are getting trapped haunted locations. There are souls

(37:34):
trapped shadow people, hat man. They contain souls in any
haunted location, and you will often hear e v p
s where they say he's coming, Who's coming? Shadow people?
Hat man. This is something I've been told is what
they do. You can look at my book written I'm

(37:57):
talking about this. So for me to come across this guy,
this unbelievable piece of crap, I love to call him
that hat man. And to know that he had shown
his face to Rudolph Steiner, and Rudolf Steiner apparently had

(38:19):
him hold still so he can sculpt him with his
own hands, and to see this face just blew me away.
I I can't even put into words. I literally jumped
up and down saying I know who you are. Now
you oh and a lot of expletives. Let's put it
that way. I know who you are and was warned

(38:41):
about absolutely. And the amazing part to me, I know
I agreed to be doing what it is I'm doing today.
I was told, I was instructed and I volunteered. I
didn't find this out through hypnosis or anything like that.
This is something that just literally came out of me

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while I was in college, reflected on a memory and
there it was unbelievable. And now to come full circle
and to have the name and to know who he is.
You guys have no idea the impact this has on
myself and what it feels like for me to have

(39:22):
the opportunity to present this to you today. Another amazing
revelation I came across is that Rudolf Steiner predicted a
hundred years from when he said Aramon would reincarnate is today.
It's now, But he said he would reincarnate into a man.

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But I know this as an entity that's appearing all
over the world. I'm still learning more about this. I
might get some of these interpretations wrong, and I'm always
open to learning. This has shaken me up and shaken
me down and around. I just don't even know. I
just don't even have the words. But you know what,

(40:05):
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paranormal podcast network. I hope you all are as stunt
as I am coming up to realize who the modern
day devil is in this world. Hat Man has presented
himself as that for some time, and I've put it

(43:25):
out as fast as I could once I was able
to get friends and family to be able to better
protect themselves. And now I come to you with the
latest on who hat Man was warned to be this arimon,
this entity that Rudolf Steiner had sit still for him

(43:48):
to sculpt this face. And it was said to me
by a couple of people. And I said to my
friend Maureen Sieberg, who else could have recognized him besides myself,
the person who's been tracking him for years, with thousands
of reports from around the globe and researched and first dubbed.
There was a problem going on with this man in

(44:10):
a suit that didn't quite look human all the time.
Now I mentioned that there's a reason why some people
report him looking differently. Sometimes he's clean cut sometimes so
you don't see a face, other times you do. It's
because there are others who are working for him as well. Now,
and that is quite a story as well on top

(44:31):
of it all. But what's important to note is the
original the origins of the original hat Man descriptions are
of this ariman and arimon that Rudolf Steiner sculpted has
a very elongated face, very pointed chin almond shaped eyes,

(44:54):
but they're different from like gray alien beings and very
pointed features. Absolute lutely what hat Man is described as.
And the original stories that I would get what is
Arabon doing? If you guys look up something called the
eighth Sphere, that may tell you quite a bit. So

(45:15):
there is this false place that souls are going to.
Now I've written about in my first book, The Secret War,
talking about people who just so happened to have had
near death experiences and also have alien experiences and at
the end of their tunnel of like, guess what they see,
they see alien beings. Well, that doesn't seem right, doesn't.

(45:36):
Something has been going on. There's been an interference going
on when it comes to souls reincarnating, getting a chance
at life, either on the other side or even coming
back into this life. How does that make any sense?
All I know is what I was taught and told
from other beings and even from the other side. And again,

(45:58):
I never proposed to be a psychic or anything like that,
though people say, well, it seems like you are, and
I'm like, well, I don't know how to give titles
to what it is I've experienced. All I know is
I've experienced certain things, and I put it out there
as best as I can, as honestly as I possibly can,
and to just be who I am, which is a
person that's awfully easy to laugh at a lot of things.

(46:23):
That's all I can tell you. But amazingly to come
across this information to have these parts filled in for
me to even understand. I knew the souls were getting interrupted.
I knew that there was another place being prepared for souls,
but something was interfering. And if you were having interference

(46:46):
going on in this lifetime, it was going to continue
into the next if you didn't clear it up now.
And that sounds very biblical, right. It's like well, if
you've got demonic influences, when you cross into the other side,
you're gonna go to the side that reflected your life.
It's these influences that are cheating. However, they're putting influences

(47:07):
all over mankind. Doesn't matter if you're a kid, doesn't
matter how religious you are. They find a crack and
they wiggle their way in. I have so many people
who are like, just like, I'm very Christian, I do this,
I do that, And I have good friends that are
Muslim and Jewish. You know, look, I'm a good person.
Why is this happening? Why are these dark beings messing
with me all the time? What's going on? But these

(47:28):
people have special insight, specially gifted, very observant, and those
are the types of people that these dark forces do
not want to have a part of this environment, this community,
because it wakes other people up. If you're gifted in
those certain situations, it's because you have a different consciousness
that's a lot more aware and a lot more elevated,

(47:51):
and they don't want that. They don't want mankind to
evolve the other part of what I know that I
was told to let people know in this life in
this world is that the human potential You've heard me
over the years, there is something to be said about
the level of human potential that we all have to achieve.

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It's achievable, and when we achieve this higher level of potential,
we evolve. Now, with these dark things being around us,
they limit our potential, They limit our length of life.
I know part of the reason that I'm working towards
is once you get rid of this negativity, once you

(48:37):
get rid of this aremonic tension, once you get rid
of shadow people and hat man, the sky is the
limit on where we can and we'll go. This life extends.
You heard of Biblical figures that live for hundreds of years? Like,
how is that possible? Maybe they counted differently. We can

(48:58):
and will return to elongated lifetimes. We can and will
recall prior knowledge from prior lifetimes in between lifetimes, what
I remember won't be so rare or odd. When death happens,
does it ever feel right? Does it ever seem like

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it was meant to be here? I have been telling
people for years. Death was never meant to be part
of this lifetime. Garden of Eden, the choice between knowledge.
It was not supposed to be here, and there will
come a time where we do not have to deal
with it the way that we are now. We'll be

(49:39):
able to have our natural cycle of knowledge and being
human beings. It seems so far fetched, and and it's
something I don't talk about enough. I've written about it.
I've talked about it among friends, mostly because I know
it seems so far fetched, like how on earth? What
a task? But here I sit at the person who

(50:01):
was able to introduce two topics that no one had
ever heard of and to get people to come together
and realize that they have all been part of this
experience I was warning about. Little did I know how
widespread it had already become. All I knew was I
was supposed to talk about it, right about it and

(50:22):
put it out there. And my goodness, look at where
we're at today. So I feel very, very fortunate to
have been able to do this. But I haven't done
it alone because the whole time my guide has been Jesus,
and I've had angelic influences as well. And I just
pay attention, I listen, and we all have those abilities

(50:44):
to be able to listen, because our souls are a
lot more wise than we ever give them credit for
a lot of people don't even acknowledge that they have
a soul for crying out loud. But we have got
to get back to that. We've got to tune out
and turn off our phones, turn off our televisions, and
get back to who we really are. And it's not

(51:05):
about meditating. I'll tell you I'm the worst person to meditate,
but prayer is kind of meditation. But be thoughtful, think
about things. Pause, take five minutes, think about where you
came from. Why are you here? Is it to watch
television forever? Is it to play those video games and
be the best video gamer there is? Is it to

(51:25):
be the best therapist that you're supposed to be. I
think there's a lot more to us than we give
ourselves credit for, and we have to start exploring that
and build up who we are now. Not all technology
is horrible to get involved in. There is a healthy balance.
Maureen Seeberg dubbed me to be a machine EmPATH because

(51:48):
I found this common ground to be able to make
an agreement. I guess you could say on working with
things around me in this environment. Every element on this
planet is a part of us, and we are a
part of it, and there is a common ground we
can find to get along. And the amount of knowledge

(52:09):
that is at our fingertips from the inside out and
going from the outside in is tremendous. I found hat Man,
hat Man is Ariman, and Ariman as hat Man. What
can I do with that knowledge? What can we all
do with that knowledge? It's almost as if this was
all just waiting there for me to find. For the

(52:32):
first time, I didn't feel alone here on this planet,
as having been the first one to start discussing and
warning this thing that was coming, this thing that was
already here. And I was told that there were others,
but I just didn't know where to find them. And
then to find that a hundred years ago Rudolf Steiner

(52:54):
spoke of this thing to come a hundred years from
his time, and to be sitting here and looking at
the face of the sculpture that he created, and to
just drop my jaw. You guys, there's gonna be a
lot more coming forward on this, because I don't know
if I can stop jumping for joy and calling out,
hat Man, you have no idea tears joy. All that

(53:19):
just came rushing at me as soon as this came
to light Full circle, guys, full circle, and I know
it's going to be helpful. And for those of you
who study Steiner, I'm learning there's a lot out there.
They're probably just looking going wow, how did you not

(53:40):
know about him? Well, now I have, and I won't
forget it, that's for sure, as I learn more, as
I dive in more, I'm going to be revealing that
here on this show. And remember, if you have anything
that you want to comment on or contribute to this show.
If you want to be a guest to share about
whatever it is that you've experienced, to my main website,

(54:01):
which is Heidi Hollis dot com. Write me an email
with as much detail as you'd like in there, and
I'll read it here on the air, or again, you
can come on this program. Wow. I don't even know
how to put into words where I'm at right now
in my head. I've told a couple of people about
this conclusion, and it's still it's hard to even let

(54:24):
it sink in. Aramon Is hat Man. Hat Man has
another name besides the devil. What can we do with
that bit of information? What can we do? I tell
you what we can conquer? Because guess what Good always prevails.

(54:44):
God wins in the end. Right you guys, you are
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