Episode 110: Hat Man™ Invites!

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you go to when you want to hear the latest
when it comes to anything out of the ordinary. I
mean there are people you would never suspect who have
had something bizarre, mysterious, supernatural or just unknown occurring and

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they've reached out to somebody like myself, sometimes all the
way on the opposite side of the planet. And I
am absolutely humbled by that. So I welcome you to
go to my main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot
com or shadow Folks dot com and tell me your stories,
every little detail. If you've got drawings, if you got photos,

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send it to Heidi Hollis at gmail dot com and
I will respond and share your stories here. But if
you want to be anonymous, if you don't want me
to share it here on the air, you just put
it in the email and just say that I'm not
gonna expose you. Uh you know, I am just always
always blown away by what it is that I get

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and uh wow, just thank you, thank you. We are learning,
we are growing, We're looking at patterns and um why
these things happen to people? Nobody has all the answers.
I am not a guru. I am just someone who
has been there seeing that, experienced it, freaked out, fountain answers,
wrote about it, got over it, and I'm trying to
help you all did the same thing. And guess what

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today is today is the outlandish corner show. Um, I
think I'm sticking with that because that's what I don't
know anyways. Yeah, so I am just grabbing your emails
and reading them cold Turkey. Nine times out of ten
it is fully cold Turkey. Sometimes I get these emails
right they pop up, and if it's like please help

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in the in the subject line, I'm totally going to
open it. Because sometimes it's an emergency guys. I mean really,
moms with their children, hat man coming at them. No, no,
no time to waste. I try to do my best
to just jump on it and respond. Uh. So, yeah,
I've got a whole bunch of emails, and uh, I

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never know what we're going to talk about. And sometimes
these emails connect, and I mean sometimes they could be
months and months apart because my email likes to mess
with me, and all of a sudden, I'll get an email.
I got a whole bunch of emails that just suddenly
appeared once and um they're like a year old, and

(03:48):
there are people's stories and I'm like, where where they
It's I just I can't answer these questions. Are some
things they are just too bizarre even for myself. So, um, yeah,
if there was a delay and me getting to your emails.
You know, spies, That's what I'm gonna say, spies messed
with my email. Um, I don't know what to tell you,

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but anyways, um jumping on in here and and digging around,
got my hand into the email bag. If there's such
a thing. If there's such a thing, it's purple. Love
that color, all right, So here we go. UM. This
first email say is hello, Heidi, Hey, what's going on?
I'm contacting you because I have had numerous encounters with

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shadow people as well as the hat Man. I was
just gonna say, at least it wasn't hat man, but hm,
I have had so many experiences in this matter as
well as abductions, that there is no way I can
even scratch the surface in an email. You know, I

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have a feeling where this is going. I have a feeling.
I'm a feeling. Let's see what the next line says,
because I think they're going to ask to talk to me.
Ah ha. I would like to be able to speak
with you if you have the time. I have so
much information and stories to tell, dozens and dozens of encounters,
and I do have evidence and many witnesses to verify

(05:15):
my reports. All right, you guys, I have to tell
you because I do get asked out a lot. You know,
can you just hop on the phone? Um? You know,
I used to be part of this UM emergency like
hotline and it was I was shocked. I got contacted
by my city to be one of those people to

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call in case like somebody saw an alien or UFO
and they couldn't handle it. I was like, what that
is so cool? Milwaukee, Wisconsin shout out to you. Yeah
they did that, and UM, yeah, I I only got
a couple of people who called UM. But I think
most of them just showed up to my meetings because
I had a UFO group for over fifteen years meeting

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at the public library. So they would just come pop
in there and hang out. And you know, sometimes people talk,
sometimes not such as they just observe. Sometimes they come one,
sometimes they come for years. UM, you know, come one,
come all. Uh. And I was asked to make my group.
It was called u FO to you, you know, the

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number two the letter you dot com. And I was
asked by Moufon if I'd make it into a chapter.
But UM, at the time, they weren't really open to Uh,
people who were talking abductions and contact and stuff. I mean, yeah,
they took the reports, but UM yeah, I was just
you know, I felt I wanted to have people who

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had had experiences to be able to come in and
then there's always a membership fee. And I just wasn't
doing that at the time or anything. I had never
done that actually, um, so so yeah I didn't do that. Um,
but you know, to each their own and uh, okay,
and this is continuing. Where are we? Uh you have
a lot of us okay, dozens and stuff. Kim. Another

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thing I want to say, if somebody wants to share
their stories, they want to come on the show and
talk about it, feel free to let me know that
in your emails. Um, if you want to come on
here to talk. I know a lot of people are like,
it's really personal, and um oh gosh, I wish I
could be in fifty places at once and be on

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fifty phone calls at once. And uh. I love talking
to people about these types of scenarios and what it
is that that's going on. I mean I do, I really,
I really enjoy it. And uh and I love knowing
that maybe I could help people get over that hump
and understanding what's going on and not feel so alone,

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you know. Um yeah, so I'm sorry it's so hard,
but but let me let me say. I do at
times jump on messenger, uh other social media. Um, you
know you could connect and talk and I do chat.
It is easier for me to chat versus jumping on

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a call because then I can multitask with my messages
and take time in between it. Um. But yeah, people
are always surprised, like I can't believe you answered. Yeah,
if I can, I will. Um. All right, so know
that find me social media. Put a one in front
of my name, so at one Heidi Hollis and pretty

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much all the social media that's how you find me,
all right, continuing, I've spoken at Moufon meetings oh nice,
and was working with the Moufon director in my state
until he oh passed away. I'm so sorry. I guarantee
you will be very pleased to hear what I have
to say. Thank you, and nickname is Savage. Well thanks

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for reaching out. Savage. Please please feel free to find
me on social media. Um, and we could chat, but
otherwise it's really hard. Okay, alright, so this next email,
please do not use my name. Okay, see you see
how easy that is. Just teld me that in the
first line. That's that's all you have to do. Heidi.

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I was just wondering if you had seen the photo
of the devil face in the smoke from the Twin
Towers on eleven. Yes, I have. I have. Um to me,
it looks a lot like Steiner's Ariman. What do you
think could just be uh paradon. I don't know what

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they're saying, but sure as creepy um. Well, I have
seen that. If anybody hasn't seen that, and I've said
on here that Ariman, I don't know if this this person,
this person is not mentioning. I've said how hat Man
is Rudolf Steiner's Ariman. And I've spoken to people in

(09:54):
anthroposophy because I was shocked, absolutely shocked when and former
acquaintance showed me the sculpture of this like almost alien
looking thing, right, I was like, oh my, somebody did
a really good sculpture of hat Man. It's like, excuse me,
what did you say. I'm like, somebody did a really

(10:15):
like a spot on sculpture of hat Man's head. And
I was told then that it was a hundred year
old sculpture of Araman, which is essentially a devil um
in the world, and how Rudolf Steiner said that this
creature would become a problem a hundred years from when

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he made it, and hello, it is a hundred years.
Um yeah, So I just it just stunned me every
time I think about it, because it was so such
a moment, such a moment. I literally screamed, I found
you you. Uh, words, just words, because I do not

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like hat Man. I do not like what he stands
where I do not like what he does. And yeah,
he's the devil. And no it's not me calling him that.
He calls himself that. And uh yeah, it's gotten more
interesting with him. Um, we are not friends. We're not friends.
So when this face that came and was seen in
the smoke of the twin towers when they collapse on

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that horrific day at nine eleven, they're asking what do
I think about it? Um, I really think that it
could indeed be that, you know, some things come together
and they could look like a face. Um. You know
there's people that have photos of cups that happen to

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look like a face, or purses, and you know, um,
I don't. I don't think it was necessarily actually the
devil or Ariman shoving his face into a cloud to
make his presence known, because it's quite obvious his presidence
is known. I mean, um, yeah, I don't think that's
a mystery. And hat Man is sure making the rounds

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and that's his ugly mug, and yeah it does kind
of have that pointed chin kind of look as armand
hat Man Uh yeah, so yeah, I I think so,
But I don't think it was necessarily himp. You know,
it could have been symbolic. I don't know. I think
we all have our own interpretations about why things happen

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the way they do. Wasn't a coincidence. I'm not a
person that believes in coincidences. So but look look at
how it drew attention to evil taking place, and to
have this evil thing appeared to be evil appearing above
this horrible situation that took place. There so symbolic a

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reminder triggered, And look at people are talking about it
all this time later. So I would say that perhaps
it had a purpose and assured diser it all right,
you guys, we got more emails coming and us getting
interesting already? All right, you guys. You are listening to
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normal podcast network. Stick around, We'll be right welcome back.

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You are listening to Dark Becomes Place with Me. Hettie
Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
a AM sar, a normal podcast network. Well, well, well,
what do we have here? It is the Outlandish Corner
And these are my favorite types of shows because it's
all about you and me and your personal encounters, anything,

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your research, your opinion about anything out of ordinary. I'm
just gonna hack on through these emails and see where
they land us, because I am always really surprised how
often they seem connected, even though I'm just randomly grabbing.
All right, you guys, this next email, what is this saying?

(14:23):
And dear Heidie, that's me um. I've had many encounters
with spirit and entities since I was a child. Okay,
some good and not so good. Oh oh, I understand
my house was haunted as a child until my pastor
grandfather prayed them out. Well, all right, I've had contact

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from dead relatives, encounters with shadow people, no WHENO and
also helped a man who died in my office building
crossover after being stuck there for over year. That's terrible.
I had to hear that. Now you know that somebody

(15:06):
got stuck in spirit for him raised Christian. I believe
we have power over many of these things with the
name of Jesus. Oh yes, Uh, it works. That's all
I canna tell you. Um. I've heard angelic voices during
worship services. Once during a song, I wrote, that's it

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in a nutshell j P. Well, thanks JP, thanks for sharing.
That's a that's a nice little little neat little category.
Uh that you just kind of jumped into a bunch
of categories. Actually a little neat paragraph. That's what I meant. Uh.
You know what's interesting about what you're saying here, how

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you've had some good and not so good experiences. I
mean you spoke of the shadow people, um, but then
visits from spirits, you know, your past relatives and whatnot. Um.
Something I want to say to the good and not
so good okay, UM. I at one point had so
many encounters happening. I mean I wasn't sleeping. They would

(16:13):
come and wake me up. I mean, solid people come
right to my bedside. And you know, I always say
I'm not psychic or anything like that, but you know
something something's going on. I mean, I really had some abrupt,
in my face encounters with dead people, um, aliens, uh,

(16:36):
cryptos um, angelic Jesus encounters, you know, the devil, hat man,
shadow people. UM. You know, I don't know, I don't
know what what to say about all of that. And
I just would always, like I guess, I would get
tired of people saying psychic, look at me, you know,
and um, I just was like, oh, I don't want

(16:59):
to look like that. I don't want to look like
that person saying oh I know it all and I'm
so psychic, you know. Um, but I know that I
have some kind of insight intuitiveness and things like to
shake a stick at me and say look over here.
And I just i'd had it so bad that I

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had it out with all of it, and I had
just finished college and I was like, I meant this,
and I went around saying, look, I don't care why
you I don't care what you're here. I do not care.
I am off limits. I don't want to deal with you.
And I mean I just like marched this around and

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just said it loud and proud, you know, everywhere all
over where I was at, and things calmed down, and
I was so grateful. I was just so grateful. But
you know what, when the what I felt was it
wasn't bad. Is these these dead people, you know? Um?

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But when I felt um, they were done messing with
me at such a level like that, you know, I
was relieved. But also when I put my foot down
about those things coming my way or the negative things
coming my way, it also slowed the role of the positive,

(18:23):
the angelic um, the Jesus encounters slowed as well. And
it's like, well, was it just me closing off the
door to everything? Not everything stopped, mind you, not everything.
I would still have some pretty abrupt things, but it
wasn't constant. It wasn't constant. I mean, how would you

(18:46):
like to go to bed and you hear your name
whispered in the most raspy deep just I mean, come on, now,
come on, try to get some sleep with that. I mean,
I'm up flicking the lights on, saying quit, I don't
care that you're here, you know, stop, um, you know,

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And then headless woman, and I was just done. And
then of course others can't relate to it, you know.
I'm like, well, I didn't make a big stink out
of it. I was just just tired of it. Um.
You know, so it worked, it worked for me. But
when you're open, you're open, and people say you can't
control that, well I beg to differ because boy I

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was able to really slow it down and be able
to take it in little little bittie bites. Oh but
the bites sometimes get big too. But what can you do? Um?
But yeah, So I'm reading this and I'm like, yeah,
I could totally understand. I know what you're saying. I understand.
And you know, people are probably like, you know, pastor

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grandfather prayed out the shadow people and the ghosts in
the house. You know, I thought Heidi said that others
can't do that for you. Uh, this was somebody that
was related and part of the family. So for that
to work, I mean, for all we know, he lived
there as well, So that is a very big possibility.

(20:12):
But that connectiveness the family, you're you're in it together. Um, yeah,
they could take ownership and help put the ethereal foot.
Up the backside of these things if you don't want
it in your casa. Um So, but this is this
is a fascinating, uh list of things that this person

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has experienced. So I really am and I am appreciative
that you know, this is a glance in the life
of somebody, um whose experience of things you know, and
here they are raised Christian and uh, you know, using
the name of Jesus. I keep hearing it over and
over again, people in different situations using the name right,

(20:58):
and uh you know, it's like again, I'm not a
Bible thumper. I'm just reporting what happens out there. Yeah,
I say I'm biased, Okay, I admit it, but you
guys want to hear the honest to goodness truth. I'm
telling you. People will be in the craziest situations and
they just start to say the name, and these things

(21:20):
take off. Aliens, shadow people, hat man. I mean, it's
amazing believing in the power of I heard a story
just today that somebody was being met with something horrific
and they were feeling frozen. They're starting to get paralyzed, right,

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and they heard a voice assert say my name, and
they're like what and then more assertion say my name,
and they just started to say the name Jesus and
guess what it left. Um, so yeah, these things happen people.
I'm just I'm just telling you, just telling you, all right.

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We got another email here. Thank you JP for writing
if your nutshell of of your experience as I love
it all right. This one says, has anyone talked about
hat man with playing cards and him trying to get
them to play with them? Is sound familiar? My eleven

(22:27):
year old has experienced us, and I need to know
what it means. We both see loads of weird things people, monsters,
animals and shadows. Thanks for any insight. Hold on. This
is the one that I noticed that same email address,

(22:51):
like they sent it twice, okay, but they added a
little bit of detail on here. Um it says we
have an older trailer our property. Like sometimes if I
see a really tiny, tiny little email like that, you know,
I'm opening it. What I do is I open the
email and I copy paste to put in a document, right,
and if I see it's really itty, betty, I'm like,

(23:12):
I wonder if they could give a little bit of insight.
Sometimes I you know, I'll do that and I think
it might have done this in this situation. And they
responded back with a bigger a little bit more detail.
All right, So we have an older trailer on our property.
I know of four people that have seen shadows and
people in it. Okay, my husband sent my eleven year

(23:33):
old in there to get a tool. She said. There
is a tall, scary man all in black in there
with a huge hat. Chills, chills. He was shuffling a
deck of cards in his hands. She said. He kept

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trying to get her to play with him. This is
disturbing or what I just? I asked if he was
wearing anything else? Is? She said, a really long coat.
I told her to never play with him. Has anyone

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else brought up cards? I've never seen him with anything
but the hat and coat. Why now does he have accessories? Oh? Man, okay, okay,
I feel really just angry angry reading this right now. Um,

(24:38):
always going after kids, hat man, always going after kids?
What what is that? When is that huh? Going off
the most after the most innocent of us and trying
to tempt them to come and play. It's like, Okay,
you're a big, ugly brute and you've got the nastiest

(24:59):
like set a clothing detail. It's all in black, and
you're gonna try to bring a child to come and
sit down. I mean, how do you guys feel about this?
I mean, I wonder, I wonder how many kids might
not feel comfortable to tell their parents. And then what happens?
What if the kid just feels like, oh is it

(25:20):
an authority? An adult? I have to listen to what
they're telling me, So okay, I'll go play. You know
what if that had happened? Well, you guys, I'm gonna
pick this up after the break because this is it's
a pain. I hate here in this type of thing.
All right, you guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes
Life with Me Mighty Hollis on the I Heart Radio

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are listening to darktor Comes Lay with Me Readie Hollis
on iHeart Radio Coast to Coast day AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Today it is the Outlandish Corner. It is all about
you and your stories. And hat Man the Purv is
at it again, approaching eleven year old children with the

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invitation to play a game of cards gambling? Perhaps perhaps
what did I asked for? Wager bet your soul? I can't,
I just can't. I'm just so irritated. Um, you know
this person is asking and sharing about hat man offering

(26:52):
to play play cards with your eleven year old and uh,
the child going and telling the parents instead. I hope
didn't sit down to play at all. And Mom's wondering,
is this something that others have had happened? And this
sounds familiar? The sounds familiar. I will tell you that

(27:15):
I don't know if this is a repeat email. Sometimes
people will re send an email because I didn't get
to it or something or fast enough, and and then
I'm like old on and I did read that one,
so yeah, but it does sound familiar. He will entice, Okay,
I'm going to tell you. He will entice anything he

(27:36):
can do to get a person or a child to
comply with a command or request. And it seems like
such a simple thing, like what what if the child
took a step towards him as in an acceptance. I
hope she didn't, because it's like an invitation. You guys,

(27:56):
close your eyes once and offer somebody something okay, and
watch him take a step towards you. What is that?
What is that signal to you? Like an acceptance? Right,
an acceptance? So if that child happened to take a

(28:17):
little step forward, hat Man takes that as a yes,
even though she might have retracted and run out, But
he took that as a yes. And so guess what
for him? He's looking for permission? And it seems so weird,
like this old cliche, old stuff, like you have to
let the vampire in your home if you know, if

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he comes knocking at your door, he can't come in
less you say come on in? Where did that come from?
Hat Man has something very similar. It sounds so silly,
But yeah, people always wonder where would I have said, sure,
come on in? So you could have been a dream,
could have been a dream about something. So some when
I always just example, like, so we knocked at your door.

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You looked out and it looked like your sister, but
something told you it's not your sister. But you open
up the door. Anyway you can win against your better
judgment and your gut feeling, and lo and behold it's
a minion of shadow people and hat Man stuff. You know,
it's like it seems so like, well, that's not fair.
They cheat it will did you say they cheated? Of

(29:24):
course they would cheat. Of course they would cheat. You know,
it wasn't a conversation, it wasn't a written contract like
you see in the movies. No, it just took a
little step forward or a little nod in your dream.
But it's part of you, as part of your consciousness,

(29:44):
as part of your decision making. We make a lot
of decisions in our dreams, and they're part of us.
There's a reason why so many hours in her day
are contributed to it. I have, and I know a
lot of people do, have what I personally call a
waking dreams, and they're like, these dreams, it seems so real,

(30:05):
it's hard to believe they didn't actually happen, and they
actually go into your memory as if something that you've accomplished,
something that you've trained on, something a part of your
life experience. It seems so odd and silly to say,
but yeah, it comes to that. And I can have

(30:26):
those types of dreams in a night and I wake
up exhausted. Why am I exhausted because I've been working
all night? I mean, really, I mean going from one
scenario to another, and some of my scenarios not imagine this,
imagine this. We think that these dreams they aren't going

(30:47):
on a tangent. But I think some of these dreams
don't mean anything. Right. So I was having and I
still do. I have these dreams and really involved involves
people that are so distinguished where I could see every
detail of their face and their home or whatever. But

(31:10):
I'm kind of floating through. I'm checking on them and
whisper into their ear, try to help them with something.
And h It's like I had these dreams and I
just they felt really real to myself. Um, I don't
know exactly who the people are where I'm at always,

(31:30):
you know, I come back to this world and I
forget details, right, But now imagine this. Years later, or
around the same time, I started getting people finding me
saying hey, I saw you what you saw me? And

(31:51):
they'll describe one of my so called dreams, and um, yeah,
really really something to be met head on with that.
So our dreams, I mean, I can't be the only one,
you know. Uh. I learned what people call that now.

(32:14):
I had no idea. I just learned about it. A
couple of years ago. They say by location, by location.
Huh um, but yeah, so I would go and help
people with different situations and whatnot. But uh yeah, so
what we think are dreams may not always be a dream. Again,

(32:38):
I can't be the only one, right um. But yeah,
so there you have it. So um, this is not
something that is out of the ordinary for hat Man
to try to entice somebody to take a step forward. Candy,

(32:58):
a puppy, a game, whatever it is. So he was
looking for a nod from her, and I hope, I
hope she wasn't even slightly tempted. I hope he was
so repugnant that she absolutely booked it and turn around
and ran without a thought in his direction. So um,

(33:19):
sorry that happened, and she should have any kind of
continuing issues with that freak showing up. There is a
blessing to do. Go to my Facebook group. It was
called Shadow People and hat Man Experiencer, and I have
a document in there to help people. And uh, I

(33:40):
also have it in both of my hat Man books
and the Secret War book. So here on how to
protect yourself and children. Okay, okay, huh moving on, moving on,
But thank you for sharing. Um. That was Oh, give
everybody chills. Everybody chills. All right, we got a decent

(34:03):
sized email here. Let's see, let's see what we got here.
All right, Dear Heidie, that's me again. I'm writing this
so that maybe it can help someone. Well, thank you,
because that's a big part of why I'm doing what
I'm doing. I hope, I hope the same for everybody
that thinks about writing. It's not just to help ourselves.

(34:27):
It's to help the next person. That's that's the whole point.
You know. I have to tell you guys this really quick.
Like I had this, you know, I had several websites.
One was called Alien Advice, another UFO to you dot com,
and uh. I was doing my best to answer the

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emails I would get and I post them on my website.
And then I realized I can't reach enough people this way.
I started doing a column and it was in a
couple of newspapers and other play aces online. I'm like, yeah,
this will this will show a similar scenario to what
people are experiencing, and hopefully they'll apply it to their lives.

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You know. That was the thought behind it. Like if
it goes bigger, then I'll reach enough people where their
answers are are coming right and uh, or something they
can relate to. And then I realized I wasn't reaching
enough people. So then I started doing radio, like maybe
this will help, Maybe this will reach enough people. Maybe

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maybe this is big enough, you know, and uh, it
just always seems to be a bigger and bigger need
out there. And I keep expanding, like, okay, we're at podcast. Now,
we're at the podcast level. And now I do a
bunch of television shows and I do little spot things
there and I hope I'm reaching enough people. And then

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people steal it and think it's, you know, something they
came up with a wonder gee, where'd that come from?
Like I think the next step was to do TV.
I think so on a regular basis and take back
my information that people are abusing out there? How about that?
And I say that because um, it's being distorted and

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that's not healthy. That's not healthy. Um yeah, yeah, um
we got to we got to. So I keep thinking
about what's the next best thing, how to reach the
most people, and slowly but surely, slowly but surely, um,
you know, I'm glad it has gone to the millions

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that are reporting shadow people in hat Man all over
the world, and just really really trying to pull it
in and get the proper now that the distortion has happened,
which evil likes to do, right, distort the truth. Um,
So I want to make sure people get the right
and proper message. That is important. I'm not going to

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throw it to science, and I throw it to the
heart and soul, spirit, a spirit of it all. All right?
Where was I? Okay, here we go. I'm writing this
so that maybe it can help someone. Very generous of you.
I haven't thought of it for many years, as nothing
never came of it. Listening to your program about the

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hat Man reminded me of it. Many years ago, I
had a visit from a shadow person. I don't know
if it was the hat Man or not. It looked
like Batman, not not hat Man, as she's saying with
a bee. I woke up one night and saw this

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figure at the foot of my bed. I didn't know
what it was or anything, as I was quite young.
It just stood there for a bit, not long, and
then it floated out the window. Yuck, yuck, Okay, chills,

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nasty chills. Um It's like it waits for you to
wake up, and then it takes off. I mean, rude
to have been there in the first place, and rude
to take off right after you notice. AM al right, guys,
we gotta get to our next break. You are listening
to Dark Becomes Light with Me, Tiny Hollis on the
I Heart Radio Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me,
Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio Coast to Coast
a M Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, I
was starting this semilong email and we're just getting warmed

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up here when I had to get to my break,
and it happens right man, all right. So this person
says they were listening to my podcast when I jarred
a memory that they saw something that looked like Batman,
not hat Man, and right when they woke up to it,

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it took off and floated out the window. Now to continue,
this was the one and only time I ever saw this. Now,
I used to have nightmares of someone chasing me and
all I could do was run in place, no matter
what I did. Oh man, oh man, I've had those

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kinds of dreams. Am I the only one? Because no,
this person is saying it, But I've had those kinds
of dreams where it is such a nightmare. You're putting
so much exertion and you're just going nowhere is horror terrific.
Oh I feel for you. Those are those are the worst. Okay. So,

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no matter what you did, what was chasing me never
caught me. That's a lucky, lucky strike. Um. Now, I
told my mom of these nightmares, and she gave me
some good advice. Okay. She told me to stop running
from whatever it was that was chasing me, okay, and

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turn around and face it and see what it was. Oh,
hold on, hold on, hold on. This is a horror
movie right here. This is a horror movie. Don't run
and turn around and face it. Oh you guys, I
had i'd done something like that. Okay, all right, I'll
have to tell you how to tell you later. All right, Okay,
we'll finish this because I just got the heebie jeebs

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having this flashback. Somehow I did this in my dream, okay,
and when I turned around and faced it, it disappeared.
When I did this. Oh, you're you're lucky. I never
had another nightmare again. Oh well, kudos. I never saw
this shadow person again. Huh. I hadn't thought of this

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for many years. As I think about it now, I
wonder why he disappeared. I think it is because when
I turned a brown in my dream and faced my fear,
so to speak, it never had a hold of me
and knew it never would. That that is very true,

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very true. I don't scare easily at me neither. Even
if he came back, I know how to get rid
of him. I believe this was a turning point in
my life about facing my fears. One of my mottos
I lived by is I don't let fear control me. Janine,

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Oh thank you, Janine. That was that was powerful. Truly
is truly powerful. Um, facing one's fears is a big deal.
And these things are cowards. I mean, they try to
wear us down, so the nightmares, lack of sleep, chasing,
and then it's like there's nothing really they're coming at you, right,

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but you feel the threat and you're just run, run, running,
And uh, it was a powerful It was powerful what
your your mom taught you and told you. And and
I've had many people who say, you know, I got
tired and I just stopped and you know, faced it,
and then it didn't happen. Putting your foot down essentially

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your ethereal foot down, like all right, fine, what and
then it's like, well there's there's all bark and no bite. Wow.
So it was a tactic, and this is how they
first approach. Oftentimes it's the nightmares. And then you open
your eyes from these nightmares, that where they found your

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weak spot, where they found that fear was so ingrained
in you. You open your eyes and there in the room.
So this is this is a this is a common
tactic of them. And again, if they were so I
don't even want to say, I don't want to say, like, oh,
if they're so big and bad, you know, well yeah

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kind of. I mean, if if they could just take
you down instead of these little silly running dreams, you know,
they would have done it. But they were studying you.
They're trying to find how far exactly will she run?
How how far will she go before she breaks and collapses?
Is and in fear right, So it was testing you.

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But instead of continuing this cat and mouse chase, you're
just like I'm not tired, I'm sick of it done,
and I'm gonna look you in your eye. All of
a sudden, it's like, whold on? She found the magic potion.
So yeah, you know, there's a lot of times where

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people are able to find that power. Because then I'll imagine, okay,
here that this was not a constant scenario of an
entity coming physically to her. Okay, something did it got
a look, and if I'm following this correctly, you saw
this thing once and then you started the nightmares, and

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I think that might be the scenario that it followed.
So it planted a seed to start breaking you down.
Because okay, okay, catch us, catch us right here, something
came in the room. You woke up. You didn't keep sleeping,
so this thing left like, oh, I don't know, we
have to paralyze this one. She woke up, she felt me,

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she felt me. They don't like that. They do not
like that. So we gotta find the weak spot. All right.
It's like calling the calvary. Everybody. Does this make sense
to you? Does that make sense? Think about that, guys,
Think about that something came into the room. She wakes up.

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It's like, oh no, not an ideal situation, all right,
so definitely have to study that one more. Get some information.
So she's not so alert and she's caught in the
matrix of the dream scenario and we'll wear her down.

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We'll find what makes her scared and paralyzed. So when
I come in the room next time, she's not all
wiggly and stuff and fighting. Yeah. So power too, that's awesome.
Uh if it continues. I tell people you definitely have
to do the blessing of your home. People say cleansing.
I'm like blessing, Okay, hand it to Jesus, sprinkle some

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Jesus on it. Yeah. Um so yeah, this is this
is a very powerful, very powerful so I have to
give it to you. Um. Now, something I said I
had mentioned and this is like I said, I have
a lot of waking dreams. Okay, and I had this
uh and and these waking dreams are sometimes tests for me.

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It's not always me. Um whatever this by location thing is.
Sometimes it's a scenario where I'm I feel like I'm
being tested and tried. All right, Um, So I might
have this scenario like, Okay, aliens are invading. What are
you gonna do? Karate chop no, no, Heidi, do this

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do that, do it left, hit, a punch, kick, whatever,
a Jean Claude van damn double two footer. I don't
know what the heck I'm talking about, but yeah, it's
like I get these scenarios right, and if I don't
do it right, I have to repeat it, and I
repeat until I get it right. And it's like how
to react in this situation? What do you do? And

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again it gets put into my knowledge at a base,
like I know, if this scenario happens, I know what
I'll do. And it sounds really strange, but it's like training, training, training.
I feel um happens a lot, and I've met other
people who have had similar things. It's like, don't take
a left, go right. If you're leaving this place and

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this cataclysmic event happens, you're supposed to do this, and
and it's like sometimes I'll get hints. Other times it's
me actively making the decision. And I made the wrong one,
and you know, like I said, I got to repeat,
all right. So I had this one and these were
hideous creatures that were coming at me and I'm fighting, right,

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I'm literally like I'm a kung fu master and I'm
tearing this thing up right, and we are literally doing
that scene in the movies where you've got your hands
in their face and you're crushing their face like and
I had this big, nasty um it was kind of
like a Italian looking creature, and I could just totally

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see the building and everything that I was like, um,
we're going building to building, jumping literally and we're battling
it out. It's like Superman versus I don't know, some
creature from out of space and we're flying hitting boom boom.
And I got my hands around, you know, at the

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chin and smushing this thing's face like you're done. And
I'm watching this thing and it's in my hands when
it starts to shape shift and it gets uglier and uglier,
and then it got gooey and gross and imagine I'm

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like kind of a germaphobe, but not really. Um, I
just don't like squashy stuff like that where it's like
sticky and nasty, Like I always hated that, like rubber
goo like stuff that went garbage can, like toy stuff
because they smelled. And yeah, so that thing got the
most drippiest, ugliest face you could ever imagine. And I

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was like Okay, I'm done. I've done. You win you
you you you know. I did the whole thing running
like you you know, I'm done. I'm done. I'm running.
I'm running. And it's like it was celebrating. That was
like given up and I was like, I don't care.
I don't care. It's in my hands, it's under my nails.
You know. I totally did that and I did not care.
And I had to repeat that dream because I gave up.

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Um so, yeah, I had to repeat it. I had
to repeat my lesson. Um so yeah. I U yeah,
those repeat nightmares sometimes that's where it goes. But I
want to thank you Janine and everybody else who wrote
me an email for today's program. They were all fascinating
to we cd common ties. There were some, weren't there,

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I mean, no anyone. Well, you guys, don't forget to
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to help you guys out there in the world. And uh,
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