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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:27):
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(00:47):
research and discover the subject matter for yourself. You are
listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis, iHeartRadio

(01:10):
and Coach to CoA SAM paranormal podcast member. Welcome to
my show. Remember each week this is the place you
go to when you want to hear the latest when
it comes to anything out of the ordinary, from shadow
people to hat man angels to aliens. I don't care

(01:30):
if Lockness Monster has taken residence in your local Park.
You will hear about it here because people tend to
write me and tell me about it, and I invite
you to do exactly that. Go to Heidi Hollis dot
com or shadow Folks dot com. Tell me all the details.

(01:52):
Tell me what's going on. Tell me what the rumor
is in your neighborhood. Tell me what somebody in your
family is known to have done or experience a long
time ago or recently. Tell me what you've experienced. Tell
me what people haven't been able to accept that has
happened to you, and I mean near death experiences. A
lot of people feel really isolated when those things happen.

(02:14):
Tell me about it. I have covered it, why well,
because usually it always starts off with having experienced something
myself and learning growing, naming shadow people hat man, given
the definition out there to the world, and just going
forward with it every single day, hoping, just hoping people

(02:38):
get the right message versus the wrong message that a
lot of people are sprinkling out there using my information
that's not okay because it's creating so much confusion out there.
Got to rectify it, have to. It has just been
oh my gosh, I get some emails that just make
me just ah, absolutely horrifically sad for them because they

(03:03):
get they get the wrong vibe, they get the wrong ideas.
Shadow people are not a problem. Oh they're They're okay,
They're not going to hurt you. Oh man, no, no,
no no. We have got to put our ethereal foot
down with these things. And I haven't been talking for
a couple of decades on this stuff just to have

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it go backwards. So police spread the word. If you
want to get the proper information, go to shadow folks
dot com. I put it all there. And also I
have a Facebook group which is shadow People in hat
Man group Experiencer Group, So people go there and share

(03:48):
about what is they've experienced, what they know, and you know,
I have got to tell you guys too. On my group,
I try to keep things on the level with what
I know works to help people in various situations. Okay,
And there's a lot of misinformation where people are like,

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you know, go ahead and sprinkle some tar stuff here
and sprinkle that over there, and that should get rid
of them. And it's like, hold on, where did that
come from? I don't understand. I admit in having a
bias because I know a method that works. I have
no people from all sorts of beliefs and whatnot, but

(04:32):
I do focus more on a Christian perspective in dealing
with these things because I know that they've worked, and
that is my background. Though I have known people of
different beliefs to be able to have some successes. It's
very cultural. It's like where and your mind, heart and

(04:53):
soul is God the creator, you know, put that energy
there to clear these things out. And I have heard
of people having some successes and uh, but ultimately sprinkling
some Jesus on it, that's what does it. It's just
gotta keep it real. People are so comfortable in saying
the devil. I gotta be more comfortable and we all

(05:16):
have to be more comfortable in saying, look, Jesus the
only one I know that helped me out of this situation.
So there it is, There it is, and so don't
forget go to my main website, Heidi Hollis dot com
or shadow Folks dot com and tell me your stories.
I swear this week I think I got three or
four emails from people saying, boy do I have some

(05:37):
really good emails for you and stories? But let me
know if you want them, like what is that? Of
course send it tell me. And if you have drawings,
if you have video, just email it to Heidi Hollis
at gmail dot com. Yep, and I will get those.

(05:58):
Oh my goodness, you guess what today is. Today is
all about your emails, your stories. These are my favorite
types of shows. They just are because I really enjoy
diving in and it's amazing to me because I'm always growing,
I'm always learning. I do not have all the answers,
but I sure do my best. After having lived the

(06:21):
nightmare of growing up in a haunted house and seeing
UFOs and having what can most closely be thought of
as near death experiences repeatedly. It's a long story, and yeah,
just so much. And then of course come across topics
that I didn't have a name for until I just,

(06:43):
you know, came up with something and it stuck. Shadow
people and hat man and you'll find oll that information
out there in the world now. And proud to say,
I've been making some waves. And you know what, you guys,
another thing you gotta check out some time. You gotta
go to my paranormal comic strip. Follow me on Instagram

(07:06):
at the Outlander's comic. It has Bigfoot, it has Lockness,
it has aliens, it has shadow people, it has all
of it, all of it because it's paranormal. Speaking of
paranormal and on with the show. I have to share
something with you guys, because every so often I like
to share personal experience that I have had and before

(07:30):
getting into some of your personal experiences, just because, you know,
helps us to get to know each other. Right. So
you know, I gotta tell you way back when I
was in college and I had a lot of interactions
with a being that myself and my college roommate had

(07:53):
some exchanges with and chatted with. And it's the basis
of my book, The Secret War, the first book that
I ever wrote, and it is the book that introduced
the topic of shadow people to the world. And so
get this all right, So we all have met people
who love crystals. I love crystals. I think they're beautiful.

(08:18):
But there's some people that you know, have a crystal
for everything, right, or a rock or a stone that
could absorb and make like the world go round or
clear something out, or they charge it up under their pillow.
Even gosh, I've seen so many things. It comes to crystals,
but I especially love it on jewelry. You know, they
have them in watches and other instruments and stuff because

(08:41):
they help focus energy. I mean, they're they're rather unique.
So so. But this being that I had a lot
of interaction with while I was in college mentioned how
humankind likes to put a lot of attention into their crystals,
and I'm like, well, yeah, they're pretty, and you know

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I you know, I like to observe and and never
knock down what people feel to be true for themselves.
Right It's like, wow, you know, I don't know. One
of my friends said that they got over depression because
they charged up their their crystal with so much positive
energy that it went a long way for them. So
I'm like, kudos for them. Right. Well, this being told

(09:25):
myself and a friend that, well, they seem to have
this notion that these crystals are like the crystals we
have access to, and I'm like, you know, what's different
with your crystals? And turns out they said that there
are crystals assigned to people and they have like a

(09:49):
soul of a sort inside of them that records your life. Yeah,
now I don't I don't understand it. They said it's
not quite like a soul like you or I have,
but like something sentient that records, observes, and takes in

(10:10):
what it is that we are doing. And apparently beings
are able to access these And I'm talking about beings
that are the ones that I know of associating themselves
with God the source and not saying God is the source.

(10:32):
I'm saying the source is like a oh, it's a
whole other story. But anyways, just like these separate bits
that work for the whole of good. Okay, these beings
would consider themselves haven't been called a lot of names
over time as something angelic even so, yeah, so isn't

(10:55):
it something that they said that they are crystals are
able to be charged up with elements of your life
and your soul and to be able to access it
and see where you might need encouragement or help or
something like that. And I'm like, wow, you know, but interesting. Yeah,

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And people, you know, I have to have to be
my own devil's advocate on this because people are like,
you believe everything an alien told you or something. It's like,
you know, I haven't seen it for myself, so I
can't say that, yeah, this is the truth of things,
but that being I didn't know him to lie much
about anything, sometimes not be so clear about the truth

(11:36):
of things, like you know, not a half truth, but
just not going to go there kind of thing, like, well,
let's not complicate things. But are the same beings that
told me about the shadow people phenomenon and how they
were related more to the alien phenomenon though they are
demonic as well, so shadow people hat man phenomenon, and

(11:59):
uh yeah, so it's it's a it's a big, long,
juicy story. So um, there you have it. But again,
I've written about this. Gosh. Nineteen ninety seven, I wrote
the book The Secret War. It used to be called
The Heavens Speak of the Battle, and I am about
to put it back into print and yeah, and just

(12:21):
kind of go there and put all that out there
again because I thought, you know, you know, I'm kind
of retiring the book. I put it into ebook, and boy,
if I had a demand like, oh, where's that book
I wanted in print, I'm like, oh, um, I kind
of okay, I better because I'm very good on that.
So I will be putting that back into print sooner

(12:42):
than later. And also an audio book just so you
guys know, um, but yeah, you guys, I've got some
really interesting emails. I'm just grabbing randomly out here, and
we're gonna touch on those and see where they lead us.
All right, Well, fasten your seatbelts. They're always fascinating. All right.
You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi

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Hollis ubi iHeartRadio a Coast to coth Am Paranormal Podcast
Stick around, we'll be right back. Your email in the
outletcho Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Lights

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with me Heidi Hollans on iHeartRadio at Coast to coth
Am Paranormal Podcast Network. As promise, I have your email here.
This is a random drawing out of my email account
and it always amazes me out Sometimes they teem to

(13:59):
fall in line. I'm telling you, the last couple of
shows they did not. It didn't have quite a pattern.
I don't know. It always says, you know, a toss up.
We just don't know what we're gonna get. But hey,
I see a really huge, huge email, So I can't
wait to dive into that one. But I think I'm

(14:19):
gonna take the small in one first, just so I
could happen most time with this big one. All right,
So jumping into the outlandish corner, I don't know, dark
becoming light corner, I don't know. I'm just gonna say
the outlandish corner, and let's see what we got here.
This one says Hi Heidi. I'm like, hey, hey, what's

(14:41):
going on. I was listening to you on Coast to Coast.
Am well cool. I couldn't believe it when I heard
you mentioned the lady being mocked by the Babushka lady.
M Babushka lady. I lived in a very haunted house
for fourteen year years here in Alabama. I have so

(15:04):
many stories I could tell you. It was literally something
different every day. Oh you know what I wish, I
wish you this is a short email. I wish you
wrote about it. That's been cool. This is the first
time I've heard reference to the mocking. Hm. I'm trying
to remember, you know. I've been on Coast to Coast

(15:28):
several times and sometimes shows will be re aired, and
I'm not sure I recall this one in particular. But
let's see if it gets jostled in my memory. All right, So, so,
first time I've ever heard a reference to the mocking
I was lying down to take a nap one day

(15:49):
and my boyfriend came in the bedroom with me. We
sell on eBay full time. Oh that's cool. I told
them to please keep an eye on our accounts in
case we got any mills from customers. He left the
bedroom and shut the door. Okay, I turned on my side,
and like five seconds after he left the room, a

(16:15):
mocking whisper voice repeated the entire sentence I had just
told my boyfriend. Oh, I'm sorry, I got goosebumps. I
got goosebumps. I got goosebumps. Oh I've heard that before.
I have heard that before. It's happened to myself. And yeah,

(16:39):
oh all right, guys, all right. Reading it, reading it,
I flipped over thinking he had come back into the
room and the door was still shut. It was one
hundred percent mocking me and creepy as h e double
hockey sticks. Also, I always slept on my side, and

(17:03):
every few months it felt like someone was tapping on
my shoulder in the middle of the night. Many Anny
Moore stories, but just wanted to share this one with you.
The voice sounded like a male, not a female. Thanks
for letting me share Susie and Susie. That's absolutely terrifying, terrifying.

(17:27):
No fun, no bueno, no no, no babushka lady. I'm
trying to remember what was that one, but oh boy,
these things like to terrify when they're of a dark presence, right,
I mean, why not? It's right there and it's like, oh, oh,

(17:49):
she thinks she's alone. Let me see if I could
get close enough so she could hear me to freak
the heck out of her. I'll tell you something. You know,
people don't understand why these things do it. It's because
they can, It's because they're there, and because they want
you to exude something negative and also imagine that. You know,

(18:11):
have you, guys, ever felt and just stopped and felt
where fear comes from? Like it's at the center of
your chest? Is it like your forehead? Is it oozing
out of your eyeballs and tears? Where does it come from?
Have you ever had it like drip, like it burns

(18:33):
in such a hard spot it's almost is like palpable
where you could feel the drip of it. I mean,
I've been scared before, and I'm not a person that
has like high anxiety or anything like that. I'm pretty
laid back, but there's there's some things that can really

(18:55):
get me riled up. And like I'd mentioned in the
first segment, it's when people take this information that I've
been working on for so long and try to make
it their own and may even twist things, you know,
but took the names, took the images, just had at it.
But not one person has uh, you know, asked permission.
They just all just kind of do this and and

(19:18):
it's causing, you know, the harm that I've mentioned so
many times here on the program, And it's like palpable
almost like this quick fuse of oh no, you know
um and it's like this, uh it's the closest thing
that I can compare to um, like the fear thing,

(19:39):
you know. It's I don't startle real easy. Just ask
my nephews to have tried most of their lives to
get me really good, and they just can't. I just
don't jump. I have seen the quartz things. I just
don't jump. I'm like, what's what's a ten year old
god on on a demon from the bits of hades,
you know, I'm like, try their little hearts out it's

(20:01):
hilarious and it's so cute. Um like, man, AUNTI Heidi,
what on earth you made of? Like I was laying
there forever if you did it, jump, I'm like, I
just I expect the worst. But but so anyways, back
to this, it's like that little little drip like what's

(20:26):
what's a good horror movie where they try to capture
like an ectoplasma machine from Ghostbusters where they they store it. Right,
It's like some kind of energy they could store and
access and release, right, and it's like palpable. It's something.
It's an energy of something. And imagine if that sweetness

(20:49):
is something negative is looking to feed upon. It's almost
like a dripping faucet of the goo they want. So
why not mock you? Why not have a laugh at
your expense? Why not? Of course they would if they're negative.

(21:11):
It wouldn't be a loved one. Who wouldn't be a
loved one because they have a better understanding how fear
may be evoked from you, right, they don't want that.
Most times when I hear of a loved one coming
to greet person from the other side, there they get
a warm, protective feeling, They get a grandma you know,

(21:32):
they don't get a grandma's mocking you rewhispering. Oh no oh,
I get chills even thinking about it. I don't know
about you, guys, but it hits a certain tone with
me that lets me know that was not okay. And
babushka lady. I'm trying to remember that name in particular.

(21:52):
No old Hag, old hag that I am more familiar with,
and that thing it's I haven't met her, thank god,
but it's interesting because there's two. Now, there's a young
hag and an old hag apparently, but there's like a

(22:14):
a kind of an attractive, younger version of black hair, demonic,
black eyed looking thing that is taking advantage of people.
And I don't get a ton of reports of her,
the old Hag, which is a wretched, little, tiny, tiny

(22:36):
lady that is heavily wrinkled, maybe two and a half
three feet tall, just a gross looking little thing. And
then there's another kind of form of her that she
might be five foot and just ratchet, just ratchet and
just like choking people sitting on them. Just seeing her

(23:01):
evokes such fear, and not always but sometimes seeing hat
man not too far, almost as if as a minion
another minion worker of his. So I've heard of that
not a good vibe, not a good feeling, And you know,
in different belief systems and whatnot, they might have different

(23:25):
names for her. I'm sure I've heard of, you know,
so many different things are people will personally give it
a name just so they could have a certain spot
in their heart when they want to put some curse
words at it. I don't know, you know, people to
teach their own, but it's been interesting to hear about
over the years. But yeah, you know, I think there's

(23:50):
a lot of different forms of mocking that takes place
as well. And I think one of the worst ones,
the worst ones personally, I've experienced, and I and it
gets brought up a lot with other people, so I
can't help but to think that it's probably one of
the worst that they've experienced, is when these things will
say your name, because it is such an ingrained thing

(24:13):
in you to want to respond. So if you close
your eyes and somebody calls your name, isn't there an opening,
special opening in your ears, you know, to go yes.
And what worries me about that is you're kind of
opening up a communicative communicative line. How's that communication? You know,

(24:37):
even though you're not meaning to, but it's like they
said your name, You're you're turning towards it as a
as a yes, and oh man, man, man, have I
had some horrible experiences with that, and they always have
to be close and it's always a whispy Heidi. No,

(24:57):
Heidi is not responding, want to leave right now? Um yeah,
I have so many people have had that happened, and
it's it is just not cool, all right. Um So
I feel that's mocking because they're looking for a way in.
They're they're looking for that fear button, Like where is that?
I just know I put that fear button around here somewhere.

(25:19):
Let me call her name. Let's see if that works.
Oh oh it works, it works. The button is right there.
Oh my goodness. But yeah, So thank you Susie for
taking the time to write. And of course Susie writes
through other stories here. I am more than open to it.
Never will say no, people think they're writing too much. No, no,

(25:41):
tell me Mark, all right, you guys, we will be
right back to you. Or listen to Dark Becomes Light
with me. Idie Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back. You are listening

(26:06):
to Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the
iHeartRadio A Coast to Code day Am. You are normal
podcast Network. Oh, just says I promised. I have a
massive email. I am really interested to see where it goes,
where it takes us, because Billie's big ones are quite

(26:28):
a journey, aren't they. And I like to take my time.
I'd like to take my time and decipher, all right,
so I'm gonna start right away. This one says hello Heidi.
So yesterday at a round five thirty PM listens rather
a recent Oh you know what I know? I know
this name. This one is somebody in my shadow people

(26:50):
and Hatman Experience or group on Facebook, and I asked
them descend it in I always tell people on the group,
I'm like, hey, you know, share this because maybe maybe
we can dive in a little bit deeper. But I
don't quite recall the story because I get so many
of them. All right, okay, but this name is unique.

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So yesterday I laid on the couch, not feeling very well.
I fell into a dream where I could see people
talking to one another. I could hear the noise of
the background people chattering, but when I tried to interact
with the people in my dream, they couldn't see nor
hear me. Oh that's frustrating. I've had that kind of

(27:33):
thing happened as well. But all right, I tried talking
to people, but no sound would come out of my mouth.
I tried getting in front of the people in my
dreams as well to get their attention, but they were
looking right through me, as if I was unable to
be seen and not there at all. Then all of

(27:56):
a sudden, I was back in my living room, on
my couch in the dark, and the hat man was
crouching beside my waist, his feet on the couch, crouching
over me, sitting on his heels. Okay, all right, I

(28:19):
got that picture. This is um This is a this
is a very um common position that he's in. I mean, you, guys,
can you imagine, all right, You're laying there and somebody's
on their heels and they're they're watching you, And what
does that position even tell you? They're up to no good? Right?

(28:42):
If your kid is doing it, if your nephews are
trying to scare you doing it? You know they're up
to no good? All right. So he's sitting on his
heels and he was sucking my soul out of my body.
What I say, no good, that's horrific. It makes me

(29:06):
so mad. There goes that little anger in a black
smoky stream. Okay, so all right, you guys, this person
is heavily involved in a in a dream state, right,
and they're not able to be seen walking among people.

(29:29):
Was it a dream where they really out of body?
Where they buy? Locating where they That's something that I've
learned a new word doing, astro projecting. You know, for
all we know, this person might be somebody who has
certain gifts or something abilities and extends themselves only for

(29:51):
something to take advantage, like hat man, because hello, that's
a specialty. All right, let's continue. I could see my
my soul as the stream, a black smoke that was
transferring from my stomach to his mouth. Oh nasty chills,

(30:11):
and I could actually feel it being pulled from my body.
Do you guys, do you hear this? Do you hear this?
Shadow people? Hat men have no causing no harm out
there to people? Right? See why I get so mad?
This is horrible. This is horrible. To actually have the

(30:37):
chance to witness it, that's just crazy. I can't imagine
that the feeling of horror. I was getting a tingly
sensation and starting to feel as if I was floating.
There were also two other black, smoky, non solid beings
with beady red, glowing eyes floating at my feet, minions

(31:02):
called shadow People's. What I call My immediate reaction was
full fledged panic. Oh oh, oh, yeah, I don't blame you.
But then I remembered the things I was told in
this group. Oh my, that's oh, that's that's my shadow
people in hat Man Experience or group M. I tell
people calling Jesus um start praying even so, and that's

(31:29):
what they say. It touched me. It touched me like
I expect that. That's that's beautiful. So I started reciting
the Lord's Prayer, our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed
be thy name, and so on. At first, he kept
sucking the soul out of my body. But by the
time I got to the part that says lead us

(31:52):
not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, his arms
and sleeves turned away. He killed over my torso like
he was hurt. He grabbed the back of the couch
as if he was steadying himself. I'm tickled, I'm tickled.

(32:17):
The story is starting to come back to me a
little bit. Like it's like you gut punched him by
sprinkling a little Jesus on it. You guys hearing this,
are you feeling this? Because this is awesome? This is
so awesome. All right, okay, okay, okay, all right, this
is so awesome. He killed over my torso like he

(32:37):
was hurt. He grabbed the back of the couch as
if he was steadying himself. All right, everybody, imagine this.
Hat Man took a gut punched and he's like, Oh.
Then the wispy black smoke that he was made of
turned white, and he vanished. You can't hang, dude, you

(33:00):
can't hang. That was amazing. I didn't see what had
happened to the other entities at my feet, as I
was more focused on trying to get hat Man to
stop sucking my soul out of my body. Oh, I
have to tell you, hat Man must be ticked at me.
Oh man, I just love hearing about this. Oh. I

(33:23):
take it as a compliment when he gets ticked off
and get a gut punch like that. Oh that's funny.
I actually have tears. Oh it's so amazing. Um. I
don't know what it means that the other smoky red
eyed entities were there, but I haven't seen them since
I was little. Oh huh, well those are those are

(33:46):
shadow beings. Um, I don't know how you're described. Oh
smoky red eyed. Yeah, those are shadow people. Um, they're
not exactly people, they're just kind of um yeah, kind
of smoky kind have a form to them, not always
really a good solid form, but when they have eyes
like that, you could see that there's an outline to

(34:08):
him usually but yeah, wow, Okay, so you continue say
I see hat Man a lot. He has never attempted
to suck my soul out though. Mm yeah, okay, you
guys pay attention who have written me saying I see
him a lot. He hasn't caused any harm to me.

(34:29):
I don't think he's there to do anything awful. Well,
he warms up to you and then he tries to
do these types of things, and it only takes one
good time. One good time. You were talking about your
body getting tingly as you were dying as he was
taking from you. I mean, he was aiming to kill you. Unfortunately.

(34:50):
I hate to say that, but yeah, And if you
found a weak spot, he's gonna work on that weak spot.
And you know, it may not be your fault. You know,
it could be that you do have some kind of
special insight. It could you could have an illness. You
could you know, have a bad day, a little depression,

(35:12):
or you could have I don't know, some people like
to drink a little bit and your defenses are down.
You know, it happens. It happens, all right, So to continue. So,
I don't know if it is an inclination that other
bad things are going to start to happen, or what
I know. Right now I'm being checked for cancer. I'm

(35:35):
so sorry. So I don't know if that is linked
somehow and we're just mentioning that and or if bad
things are to come or what. You know, he might
have been trying to work on it. He might have
been trying to encourage that to be a problem for you.
It's hard to know. Let's hope and pray that you

(35:58):
don't have cancer. Let's hope that when you sprinkled that
Jesus on him, that it got rid of it if
he was trying to start it, you know, But that experience,
she continues, that experience rattled the crap out of me
and gave me a panic attack. What you know, if
anything ever should be deserving of a panic attack, is

(36:21):
hat Man trying to suck your soul out into his mouth,
and as you're being approached for a horrible, scary diagnosis. Yeah,
I understand, all right, continuing, it was the utmost scariest
experience encounter I've ever had with hat Man in the

(36:42):
other entities. And I'm hoping that because hat Man turned
white then vanished, that he will never come back. Yeah. Well,
I mean you're part of the group. I have a
document there on how to bless your space to make
sure he doesn't come back, and I also have it

(37:02):
in my other two books called The hat Man, so
I have a couple of those out there. So all right,
I'm just I don't know about you, guys, but I'm
just kind of stuttering in my head of that kind
of horror and terror that this person went through. I
just I cannot fathom it. It is just so bad,

(37:28):
all right, continuing, I'm very stressed out right now. Oh, yeah,
and mental and mentally not in a great headspace, as
I am dealing with pretty serious things in life right
now that are just mentally draining me. So I don't
know of that and what it could be and why

(37:51):
they came or not. Oh, the list goes on. I
would also like to mention that I could hear my
cap beside my head rowling and hissing while hat Man
was trying to suck my soul out. We'll go, Kitty,
Oh my gosh, that's awesome that your cant was defending you.
You know what, I'm gonna continue this after the break.
You guys are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me

(38:13):
Hidie Hollis on iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast at Working stick Around. We'll be right back.
Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with

(38:37):
me Hidie Hollis, I Heeart Radio and Coast to Coast
Adium Paranormal Podcast Network. To continue with that wonderful email,
conquering hat Man but also being highly stressed having dealt
with such a thing, I totally understand, but I want

(38:59):
to continue because there's a lot more to go, all right, Patman,
sucking the soul out of this poor woman's body and says,
I've had every man in my life that I have
wholeheartedly loved have something bad that happened to them. Okay,
I have only been close with the men in my family,

(39:20):
like my grandfather, my father, my uncle, etc. My grandfather
died when I was seven. Made your heart attack at
the age of fifty three. Wow. My dad died when
I was thirteen liver failure. My uncle died when I
was nineteen, blood clot to the heart. Oh after a
freak accident following thirty stories while repairing hydro lines. Oh,

(39:43):
my goodness. My first boyfriend after we split up, gotten
a deadly car accident and lost his life. My next
relationship was with a man that fathered my son, and
he broke his neck at my baby shower, slipping and
falling into a backyard pool. It was the way he

(40:05):
hit the water that broke his neck and rendered himself
a quadriplegic. This is a lot of tragedy. This is
a lot of tragedy. And all of those experiences were
before I was twenty years old. And my next relationship
next my ex husband, whom I was with for twenty

(40:27):
years and he was very abusive whom fathered. My daughter
is now hooked on serious drugs. I also lost both
my son and daughter on my last birthday, Oh my goodness.
My son had to be revived by paramedics and my
daughter had to be rushed to the emergency room and

(40:47):
almost lost her life as well. It has only ever
been the people that I care about in my life
that seemed to suffer serious consequences for being loved by me.
I have been seeing hat Man my whole life since
I was about four or five, and he has always

(41:07):
followed me everywhere I have gone from home to home.
M you see, this person is seeing a pattern. I
see a pattern. But we'll see where this goes, all right,
all right. I would also like to add that I'm
not sure if he follows me because of my unique gifts.
Oh gifts. Okay, all right, well, all right. As I

(41:29):
am a seer, which is basically like a psychic m
I have prophetic dreams and I see flashes of the
future while I'm awake, as well visions of still images
or like a short clip five to ten seconds of
a certain person doing something. And I have had these

(41:53):
gifts since I was little, being able to foretell the future,
the good and bad things to come. All right, I
gotta say something here. I feel like this is just
so fascinating to me. I was talking about, you know,
maybe this person is gifted and this might be what's
attracting hat Man. Usually that is the case. He doesn't

(42:15):
want people to be able to see what he is
up to, because then you could warn the next person.
And also he tries to control people to question their abilities,
to not want to see, to not want to experience.
And he's right there, front and center, and he thought
he had you, He thought he had You're trying to
suck your soul out? Isn't that something? Guys, this is

(42:38):
not a coincidence. This is not a coincidence. And all
these patterns of things happening to this person. Ooh, we
gotta get into that. We gotta get into that. But
you know something that you're saying here about these five
to ten seconds of certain people doing certain things. I
get what I call like a deja vu flash forward.

(42:58):
Like when I get a deja vu it this is
for me personally to get like the next ten seconds
of information and what's going to happen as well. I
don't know if that's what you're you're speaking of here,
but it sounds like it. And also like the vision stuff.
I don't have good words for it either. It's just

(43:19):
sometimes these things happen, and it's kind of like howadjavoo happens.
You can't control it just happens boom. And I never
ever call myself as being a psychic or anything like that,
because I feel too ordinary for that. And to say, ooh,
I've got something that somebody else doesn't have, it's it's

(43:39):
odd for myself because I'm comfortable in talking about a
lot of things, but to say psychic or something, I
just I just say I have a lot of bad
luck or weird luck. I don't know. Maybe one day
I'll get more comfortable with that. But anyways, continuing, all right,
my whole family and all my friends have experienced my

(44:02):
unique gifts throughout the years, and all I'm sorry. They
all know to take my visions and dream seriously. Okay.
I'm also able to communicate with spirits. Yeah, it's interesting
that your friends and family are open. That's awesome. That's rare.
Communicate with spirits like hear them speaking, and they speak back,
and I speak back to them. And all of this

(44:24):
has been since I was little. I would like to
also add that with a few of my encounters with
hat Man that I have also seen small little Oh
here it is three to four foot tall aliens off
to the side of hat Man. What have I told you? Guys? Uh?
What have I told you? People are like, oh, somebody

(44:46):
is saying, this is new information that hat Man are
connected to aliens up from the get go my book
written in ninety seven. Yeah, hat Man, chaddel people, aliens,
they are all connected. So yeah, very fascinating that you're
mentioning him right here. I get these emails I do.

(45:07):
It's funny because you know they'll be intermittent, like an
alien came one night. Next night, I saw shadow people
or I saw a hat Man, So seeing him right
alongside of them happens. It's not common that people will
write and tell me about it, but it's awesome. I
get it though. I have had other encounters with those beings,

(45:29):
but am not comfortable with talking about it as it
terrifies me. Wow, it' isn't that interesting? So the aliens
terrify you more than hat Man who try to suck
your soul out. I think the hat Man is the
worst of the worst, but you know, to each their own,
I get it. I'm not sure if they follow me
because of these unique gifts or not, but I just

(45:52):
thought i would mention it. If there's anything you'd like
to know, please feel free to message me. Thank you,
Avro say, that's a unique names. I remembered this person
was in my group, you know, Avril. That is uh wow, yes, yes,
and yes, I think that they were targeting you because
you are able to experience and take in other things,

(46:14):
if you're getting visions and whatnot. Yeah, hat man hates
that and he tries to control that, and he tries
to intimidate, starting with you as a child. That's pretty common. Yeah,
him having the aliens right next to him. He meant
business girlfriend, that's what that means. He was like, all right,
we gotta really think on this one. We got to

(46:35):
conquer this one because she's really coming into her own element.
And you know, when you have a great safety net
of wonderful people around you, and like you said, you're
only really close to these males in your life. Yeah,
he would probably he would try to pick them out
and take them down. He would for myself when I,

(46:58):
you know, entering these topics, especially when it went to
the hat Man guy. I knew years beforehand and when
I spoke of him directly that there was something different
going on with him. But every time I took a
step towards speaking on it, everybody around me would be like, Heidi,
whatever it is that you're working on, please stop, I
can't sleep. Things are happening. And they didn't want to

(47:21):
talk about what they're seeing, what they're hearing and experiencing,
but they knew it was something connected to me. And
I just had to say, all right, guys, guess what.
Too many people are suffering. I have to speak on this.
You just have to put your defenses up. And then
I gave the help that I knew to protect themselves,
the blessing, the prayer, and it helped. It worked, plained

(47:46):
and simple, and then I kept going forward. And yeah,
hat Man hates my guts and feelings are mutual, but yes, so, yeah,
he is something that would targets, but he just like you.
You're a perfect perfect category for him to aim and

(48:07):
bring all he's got to throw at you. And of
course he would take down your safety net of good,
positive people, friends and family around you. My dad had
a saying that you're not going to get out of
this life alive. Heidi. I'm like, you're right, Dad, Something
has to take you out at some point, but yours
were rather tragic. I get it. It's like it's you know,

(48:30):
what is this target that's painted on me? And it
may have been connected to him Unfortunately. I don't like
to say, you know, yippie or anything, but it's like, yeah,
you must be something special that he has put so
much effort towards you, because that is so very typical

(48:52):
of people who are super talented to have so much done.
And you know, people feel like a victim, I say,
or above that because there's something about you that he
doesn't want out in this world and he has gotten
close to tapping into the source of you, but no,
you're too powerful and you came back and you smacked him.

(49:15):
I am so glad and so happy that my group
Shadow People and hat Man Experiencer group on Facebook was
helpful to you and we're going strong with it. And
you know, you guys, if you want to join that group,
you know where it's at. So everyone. I want to
thank you so much for writing me. This is amazing
and quite the story and quite the example for others

(49:37):
to follow. And I'm glad that you did send in
your story to the show so others can benefit in
hearing about it. You guys, don't forget go to my
main website Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot
com and tell me your stories, tell me what's going
on out there, and also reach out to me on
social media at one Heidi Hollis. You'll find me on

(49:59):
twit or Instagram at the same at one heighty Hollis
And uh yeah, you Neil, tell me what's going on.
There's something I'll help you with right away, and I
can I will. You know, this is a this is
all out battle. We're all in this together and I'm
not slowing my role, so you don't either, and keep

(50:21):
sprinkling some Jesus on it and you'll go a long way.
I'm telling you it works. And this is a perfect example.
And Hatman hanging out with his alien cronies and little
shadow people, red eyed demons. Let them shut her, Okay,
they'll shut her down, all right, You guys, this has
been fabulous. We have come to the bottom of another

(50:43):
fabulous program. You have been listening to Darker Comes Light
with me Tidy Hollis on the iHeartRadio at Coast to
Coast an AAM Paranormal podcast net for We'll see you
next time. Heay safe, everybody, goodbye. Well, if you like
this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait till you hear

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