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You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi
Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast i AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week,
this is the place you go to when you want
to hear the latest when it comes to anything out
of the ordinary, and I'm talking about a lot of
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personal stories from angels, aliens, bigfoot to shadow people. I
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or shadowfolks dot com and tell me what's going on,
give me as much details as you would like it.
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If there's research that you want to cover, tell me
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in the first lines and I will honor that promise.
I am not kidding when I say doing the shows
that are nothing, but your stories are absolutely my favorite.
I just dig into it and just lose myself. And again,
if you want to come on here to share your
story personally directly, You're welcome to do that. But I'm
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not kidding you. I don't know. People want to write
and I don't mind I'm reading it, but man, I
want to talk to some of you guys more often.
Every so often somebody gets brave and says, okay, okay,
I'll do it, and I'm like, yeehaw. So guess what
today is all about your emails. It's all about your
personal stories. So we're gonna just dive on in and
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see what we got. And I totally randomly grab these emails.
I do not line them up, but if you've been
listening to my shows, you will find that they kind
of coincide with each other, which is kind of freaky.
It's just blows my mind today. Don't know, these look
like a couple of juicy emails that I got thus far.
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So we'll explore it together, shall we. Here we go,
this one says Hi Heidi. It's really amazing that after
all these years, I finally have an answer to what
I saw as a child more than thirty five years ago. Okay,
where are we going? It was something that I've never
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been able to explain, but also something I know wasn't
a childhood dream because the story has never changed. There's
a clue, right, you know it's not your imagination and
the memory has never faded. Oh we're going deep dark.
This feels shadow people, Isha hat Man. So I can
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in fact now say with confidence that I did, indeed
have an experience with what you have termed as the
hat Man. Aha. There it is This happened to me
in nineteen eighty six, when I was just eleven years old.
It was at nighttime. I left my room to go
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to the kitchen to get a glass of water. Why
do we hear these types of stories? People go get
a glass of water in the middle of the night
and oooh, the craziest things happen. Don't do it. Have
a cup by your bed every night so you don't
have to go get one. That's what I do, bottle water.
It works great. I left my room, go get a kid. Okay.
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I filled my glass up and began walking back through
the kitchen to my room. I stopped at the beginning
of the hallway to take a sip of my water,
and from where I was standing, you could see clear
across to the family room on the other side of
the house, which was about twenty feet. As I was drinking,
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I got the straw longest sensation that I was being watched.
I looked over to the family room and there it was,
sitting on the couch, staring directly at Meugh hat Man
does tend to like living rooms and couches. I don't
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know how how long people have been listening to the
show but yeah, this is wild. Oh okay, he likes
to be comfortable. I guess. It was wearing a large
fedora type hat with a big brim and a trench
coat that went all the way down to its feet.
I like how this person is calling hat man it
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because very appropriate. The trench coat also had very big
buckles across the middle where buttons would normally be. The
couches were white, and what this thing was wearing was
very black. The contrast was incredibly stark. Oh why did
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they give me really weird chills? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Ugh.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
After reading about this online, it seems like most people
have only seen its silhouette. No no, uh uh no,
I unfortunately saw its entire face. It was and remains
to this day to be the scariest thing I have
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ever seen. That's what I've heard. That Rudolph Steiner sculpture
that you display on your website, Oh oh oh yes,
oh yes, is exactly its face, with a pale gray skin,
but also with a smile that went almost ear to
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ear and with very sharp, jagged teeth, the way an
alligator would have. Okay, guys, Okay, So sometimes I get
repeated emails and I don't know. Sometimes the stories do
get to sound very similar to each other. This one
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sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. But for those of
you who do not know, if you go to my
website Heidihollis dot com, on that first page, all the
way down, you will see the sculpture that I have
referred to as being hat Man, but Rudolf Steiner a
hundred years ago called Aramon, and I didn't know. I
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had no idea. Somebody showed me the sculptures, like what
do you think of this? And I'm like, wow, that's
a really cool sculpture of hat Man. And the person
is like, what what are you talking about? This is
one hundred years old, Like one hundred years old. Well,
they must have known hat Man and then to know
that this thing referred to as Ariman also referred to
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himself as pretty much being the devil, and so does
hat Man. And Rudolf Steiner said, one hundred years from
the time that he made the sculpture, or somebody or
the subject of Ariman hat Man would be stepping forward.
So I guess part of prophecy. How strange, and if
you know my backstory, stepping into such a thing as
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it's weird, but it kind of fits. Okay, so continuing
just in case. I don't know if this is the
same email it got sent to me again, or it's
just a very similar story. But eh, it's not that
long from this part, so I'll just continue. It was
utterly terrifying. I stood there, paralyzed for what seemed like forever.
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I didn't make a sound or acknowledge it in any way.
That was a smart move. I simply turned around and
slowly walked back to my room and went to bed.
That's that's pretty brave for a little kid. For the
longest time, I didn't really know how to describe what
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I saw because it was so strange. My grandmother had
passed away a few months prior. At first I thought
maybe it was her spirit, but that explanation never felt right.
My grandmother was a kind woman, and this entity, whatever
it was, did not exude goodness, good read, good read.
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I got the feeling of complete dread when I was
in its presence. Yeah. Over the years, I didn't really
think too much about it until I saw Oh, another
film project talking about quote sleep paralysis, Oh, don't get
me started, and it mentioned shadow beings. Oh, wonder they
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didn't contact me about that. I started to research it
online and that's how I found your website. Oh, the
source of it reuly mind blowing to find out after
all this time that I'm not the only one who
has had this experience. I'm not sure how you managed
to handle researching this topic, because as I previously said,
it was the single most frightening thing that has ever
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happened to me. Good luck to you and keep up
the great work. Sincerely, Roland, Thank you Roland's it is
one of those topics that people don't understand how a
lady can continue going forward and this stuff. And I
have to tell you this whole it feels like a
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bashing almost were these film projects, none of them are mined,
are mine, I don't. I don't own them. They took
material and made shows and what not off of my work.
If you don't see my face in there, I'm not
part of it, though it's my materials. I guess that's
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a way to put it. Because I introduced the topics
and the ramifications, definitions and what is and what's that
and all that. When it comes to shadow people and
hat man phenomena, it's not considered to be very ladylike
to dive into these things. So yeah, they skip over
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that part oftentimes.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But this is.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
When you hear the word sleep paralysis. I don't agree
with that. Okay, this is my opinion. That's a medical
diagnosis sleep paralysis. We all experience that because for us
to go to sleep at night and if we're dreaming,
we're walking or swinging at something, our bodies don't go
with it. So we get this form of sleep paralysis.
That is natural, and that's normal, seeing things, feeling things,
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having things talk to you, try to choke you out
or kill you. That is not sleep paralysis. This is
the phenomena that I call shadow people and the hat
Man phenomena, and it's thereat it's horrifying, you know. And
again this is just my opinion. You know, people get
diagnosed with, oh, you've got sleep paralysis, you know, night terrors,
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so we're gonna give you something to sleep better at night,
so you forget about them. So that's what happens to people.
It got put into a medical model somehow, But I'm
not in the medical model of that. I am in
the paranormal, spiritual manner of what's going on. And we're
not all having mass hallucinations of the exact same thing
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again my opinion. But you're welcome to go and get
a medical diagnosis to say this is what it was
in ided medicine. You know, good on you for that.
But yeah, it is. It's not easy to tackle these subjects,
and but I keep on keeping on and great people
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like yourself reaching out letting me know that the message
is being found amidst of the strange bits of other
people throwing my stuff out there into different categories. It's wild.
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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with
me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Today is all about your stories,
your emails and if there's some insight I like advice
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that I could give, I am here for that. And
you know all of us are just paying attention and
taking note, so wee and figure this all out. It's, uh,
it's kind of fascinating what my way. And you know
this last email that I just read and I'm talking
about how people have all these different perspectives off its
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material shadow people hat man throwing it into the arena
of a medical model somehow, and it's it's just night
and day for me. I just I don't understand, and
it always kind of I get this little in the
back of my throat when I hear yeah, I suffer
from sleep paralysis night terrors. That's another one. If you
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can look at at a timeline of when I came
on the scene talking about these things, and how many
years it took for somebody to try to flip it
and to become something else and then become a questionable reality,
just like you know that UFO topic or paranormal investigations.
You know, it's amazing to me how these things happen.
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And again it's whitewashed. Just it's not not a thing,
and it's a shame. It's a shame. If they would
sit down and ask me and where I got this
information from and material from, Uh, it might have been
these projects might have actually been more worthy. But just
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gets so frustrated. It's like, oh, Heidi, you did something
else over here. Oh did I did you see me
on it? Nope, Well it wasn't me. And then sometimes
I am on these shows and they feed my lines
to other people and take my material and all that
stuff anyhow they twist it. Oh yeah, it's a it's
a hot mess out there. So don't trust the media, Okay,
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whatever you do. Never it's like hmm, I thought I
said that, but they told somebody else to say that,
and that looks like they're the genius. What is that?
What is that about? So crazy? So crazy? Yeah, some
of these shows that I have been well I shouldn't
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say not that I have been on people who have
asked me like, hey, get on and do a show.
They don't want a woman leading on these shows, so
that's a no go, but they want that information. So
it's weird. It's a weird world out there, so strange,
and you know, statistically speaking, mostly women, it's a bigger
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percentage of women who are into these topics. And yeah,
so go figure, go figure. I would think that this
is a hot commodity. And for guys that are into it,
I don't think they mind if a lady knows something, right,
raise your hand. Oh boy, Yeah, just having a conversation
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here with my friends. Okay, such a strange world. Okay,
So anyways, I'm going to get on over here to
the next email and we're just gonna dive on in.
And wo is a big one. This is a big one.
Oh all right, let's let's just do this. Hi, Heidi,
my name is Eduardo, and I listened to your shows
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and podcasts when time permits. Well, hey, they're Eduardo. I
have two things that I wanted to discuss with you,
which I've wanted to get off my chest for a while.
All Right, When I was about seven to nine years old,
I was sick one night and I was just my
mother and I in the apartment, and I lived in
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the Bronx at the time. I believe I was recovering
from a cold and I had a fever. I remember
having those types of pajamas with the laminated rubber souls.
Oh I love those little the footies, right, which was
like a body suit with a zipper. Not sure if
you remember those, but anyway, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Those
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are wonderful until you had to go use the bathroom
and then you're like freezing because you have done zipwall.
You guys understand, all right? All right, they could and you.
My mother calls me into her bedroom because she wanted
to know how it was feeling. So I walked over
to her bedroom, which was about twelve to fifteen feet
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away from my room. It was about eleven pm at night,
and my father at the time he worked nights, so
he wasn't there. My older sister. She was asleep, and
she was only four years older than me, not much
taller than me, but she wasn't tall at all. My
little sister, who was about four years younger than me,
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was asleep as well. My younger brother was not born yet,
so there were only three of us. So as I
am about to enter my mother's bedroom, I stop dead
in my tracks. A boy. Okay, I saw, oh my,
oh my gosh, I got chills. I saw someone sitting
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in my father's recliner chair, which he kept in a
corner near the window in her bedroom. Oh man, this
has happened again, guys coinciding emails. I can't even tell
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you how random I grab these from the far spaced
out dates. This is crazy. I really, if you saw me,
just goosebumps, just goosebumps. Absolutely, just mind blowing. And what's
cool is they have a little image here of a
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recliner to show me what it kind of looked like. Okay,
and they continue. The individual sitting in the chair was
a tall, slender, mmmm, well dressed individual and like a
dark beige trench coat with a fedora hat on. And
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now I'll tell you beige as another color. That hat
man does tend to wear You just don't hear it much,
but yeah he does. The trench coat was tied at
the waist with a fastener which belonged to the coat.
For the life of me, I could not see his face.
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I swear the cemal went to describe areman, I was
about to fall over on this chair because come on,
I mean, how much in common could you have here? Okay?
My father was a husky burly man at about five
six or five seven. And my father was humorous when
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we're little, but he would never take a break from
his job to play dress up with my mom. That's funny.
That would be way out a character for him. And
that's for darn sure. He was a mechanic for most
of his adult life, not in his netics to engineer
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something like this. Oh, I feel you. My dad was
a computer engineer, like probably one of the first on
the planet and the things that he saw. But my
dad's very humanist too, so he was big jokester and all.
But I wouldn't do something like that either, So I
feel you. I did not enter my mother's bedroom. I
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was paralyzed with fear. I know that it was not
my father because the man sitting in the recliner was
much taller than him and he seemed really thin, like skinny,
so I knew it was not my father. My mother
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for some reason kept signaling me to come in. Mom's like,
come on, come on, protect me. I don't know. I'm
not there yet, so I'm reading. She was sitting on
the bed near the recliner. It appeared as though she
was having a nice little chat with this individual before
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I appeared. What on earth? My mother did not appear
to be startled, alarmed, or even scared. She seemed casual,
like nothing was wrong. Well, that is puzzling, hmm. I
wonder if she's familiar with this type of presence, if
this is not like anything out of the ordinary, because
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or she didn't see it for all we know. Okay, continuing,
but it seemed odd to me that this individual would
be in my home late at night. My mother was
not the type to ever let a strange man or
even a friend of my father's upstairs without my father
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being present. Well, that's the right thing to do, especially
up in your bedroom, and to a married woman. She
was not that type of woman. There you go. She
was very faithful, traditional strict and old fashioned. My mother
was also a devout Catholic and prayed the Rosary extensively
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at this point. As a child, I am at an
impass Do I run? Do I tell Mom? I'm sure,
I'm sure those things are going through your head, Like
do do I save myself or do I save the
whole family? Ooh, the horrors, the horrors. Okay, my mom
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is still trying to reel me in choice of words,
have me puzzled, Like do you feel like she's kind
of possessed and this thing is actually the one calling you? Wow?
Almost like she wanted to introduce me to this ominously
strange and peculiar man. Huh. I saw that my mother
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was as calm as f word, so I cautiously took
baby steps towards her. It's like, I feel you. I'm
totally imagining as my head, like really, Mom, really, come on,
come on, come on. It's like I want some candy.
You know, here's my friend. I'm seeing this in my head. Okay,
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who Heidi? For the life of me, I could not
see his face. The light in the hallway was on,
so I could see my mom sitting there as the
light partially lit her room area just enough to see
the figure, but not his face. It's like his face
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was covered or somehow hidden on this person. Yeah, that's
typical of hat man. Sometimes his face, of course, could
be solid black. And the really common descriptions that always
catches me is absent of light. It's like you can't
even get a reflection off the nose, a mouth, anything,
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totally absent of light. So it's you're calling right into
that pattern here, And this is a big email, So
I'm going to keep on reading this here after the
break because it's juicy and I appreciate it. EDWARDO, good
on you for going and putting in the details there.
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Now welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Vike
with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio. Hey, Coast to
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Coast AM. There a normal podcast network today. It is
all about your stories, your emails, and wow, we've got
a doozy. We've got Eduardo, who coincidentally has discovered a
hat man sitting on the chair next to her mother,
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who was coursing him to come closer, as if she's
going to introduce him to hat man. And I kid
you not prior email the hat man again, sitting on
couches very common. I really didn't set these emails up.
I really didn't, So okay, anyways, I am continuing this
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story because this is wild. Eduardo continues. He looked like
he was wearing a mask or a bandage or something
which prohibited me from seeing his face. That's that absence
of light. It was dark in my mother's bedroom, but
the light from the hallway would cast light into the
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room up to the point where my father's recliner was located.
At the time. There it was dark until this man
decided to make a move and came into the light. Ooh, chills, chills,
chills on his for Dora, he did have a feather
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on the side. You know, I have to tell you guys,
as I'm reading this, these cute little icons of feathers
and a recliner pops up. So EDWARDO puts some time
into this. Again, kudos to you, EDWARDO. Okay, definitely not
a hat that my father would wear. Ever, not sure
if that helps. Yeah, you know, having the feather in
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the cap and a beige trench coat is it's weird,
But like when he changes up his outfit, it seems
to be I have had more of the feather in
the hat type of scenario with the beige, so he's matching.
I guess, I don't know. As I got close to
my mom, this individual decided to slowly I just knew it,
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and creepily lean forward from the chair and ever so
slowly tried to reach for me. You know, I gotta
tell you, creepily. I'm surprised, as a word like, it's
not being flagged on this. I copy pasted his email
into a word document. That's a that's a word everybody, creepily.
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Oh so he reached for you. When this individual flexed
its arm to reach for me, I noticed that this
individual had long fingers and sharp nails and wrinkled hands.
H Have you guys seen the latest Jurassic World movie
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and you'll see there's a dinosaur on there, a newly
introduced one that has these extremely long claw like appendages. Okay,
and that's something that reminds me of hat Man. Believe
it or not. People described these disgustingly long, dangly, pointy
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fingers that he has, and some have said bony, but
you're seeing that they're wrinkled.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Ugh.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Oh no, oh no, oh no oh no. This gets worse.
And then it either growled or moaned while it stretched
towards me. I am not kidding you, head to toe goosebumps.
I don't know about you, guys. It scared the poop
out of me, and I ran for my life as
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I exited my mother's bedroom. Huh. I went to my bedside,
scared and kept my eyes completely shut, hoping it wouldn't
get me. I'm so puzzled. What was mom thinking. I'm
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forty nine years old now. Sometime around my early thirties,
I questioned my mother, oh thank gosh about the incident
several times. She claims she doesn't remember anything about it. Huh,
she smiles, and I chuckled about it with her. But
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I know what I saw and experienced as a little boy. Hum,
see that, like I kind of like along the lines
of what I was thinking. She may have been possessed,
because what mother would say, come, come, and you said
it looked like she was having a conversation just prior
to her calling you over. Huh. I can't help but
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to wonder how sick you were. You were in a
weekned state, but you set a cold with a fever,
like colds should not give you a fever, so I
don't know, it's really strange, but you were in a
week in state still nonetheless, so that's a that's so weird. Okay.
The hat man appeared to me when I was a child,
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and I remember it like it was yesterday. I'm wondering
why my mother doesn't remember this why she forgot this? Well,
you know, that's one of the things I just brought up. Actually,
that sounds like almost like she was possessed slightly, that
he was pulling the strings and using her voice and
her demeanor and everything to manipulate you, to bring you
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in closer like a spider, ugh, waiting to trap you.
I mean, what a horrible thing to do. And he
is known to possess people. She might have been asleep
and he just kind of wiggled his finger into her
ear and pulled a few buttons and are pushed and well, ah,
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there you have it. I mean, it sounds so absolutely
twisted and absurd to think, my mother, how could it
get at me my mom like that? But he does.
This is just what he does, and he's good at it,
and he's been doing it for a very, very long time.
So we've got a big learning curve to better understand him,
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that's for sure. But there are patterns, and that's why
I share my emails here so everybody can pay attention
to the patterns. I've been one person sitting behind doing columns,
writing books, doing cartoons, comics, anything TV shows. I was
just trying and hoping that others could pick up on
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what it is I'm screaming about. And as strange as
it sounds, remember before this lifetime agreeing to come here
to do this, to tell teach anything and everything that
could get this message across. And now I'm here sharing
it with you and trying to do it the right way.
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And I'd like to think him kind of figuring it
out and have been successful in spreading the word to millions.
Not everybody knows how they came across this information, but
you're here now, right, all right, So continuing with this email,
all right, second question, all right, it's got it totally
(35:20):
clear here. You had a podcast a few years ago
where the host was a young black man, I believe,
where he introduced you and said, we have a great
show today and we got Heidi Allis in the house.
And that's all I remember what he said. But you
talked about the haunted house you grew up in, talked
(35:40):
about your Puerto Rican roommate in college, and other paranormal
occurrences and aliens. That podcast was removed from YouTube or
the uploader removed it from YouTube for personal reasons. Do
you know which podcast I'm referring to? You did it
a few years before COVID struck. It was an excellent broadcast.
You talked about how the aliens were speaking through your
(36:02):
roommate and that they didn't want to get close enough
to the ground because we have the technology to shoot
them down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are all the things
I talk about. Generally. Program was like two hours long.
I do believe I know what you're speaking of, and
I talk about these matters on several shows, not just
(36:24):
that one. So on most interviews you'll hear me talking
about these things. If people ask the right questions, I
will definitely touch on those types of subjects. But yeah, so,
and please tell me why the hat man appeared to
me when I was little? What did I do? About
seven years ago? A psychic told me that my energy
(36:46):
was at a very high vibrational frequency. My integer was very,
very high and hot. I'm wondering if that had something
to do with it, even when I was a child.
Hope to hear from you soon, sincerely, Eduardo. Well, thank
you Eduardo for reaching out. I believe you're speaking of
(37:08):
Hocus forty fifth. I was on his program, and yeah,
he's been on his show a few times. Really, really
lively conversation. And you know what's when it comes to
people that experience hat man, they're always like, why me,
what did I ever do? This thing was so evil
it wanted me. It pompeteered your mother to get access
(37:32):
to you. So he was really trying hard. Like that's
a unique bend. But he does this, He does this
before our first timer. That's kind of kind of different.
You know, I kind of wrapped my head around that
for a first time introduction. He just tried to grab
a hold of you, hm and moved in slow motion,
and he wore a different outfit with a feather in
(37:54):
his hat. That's interesting. Yeah, I can't always explain his
motivations and his ways of trying to gain access to
a person, but I will say I will say that
for him to go through so much trouble, there's something
definitely different about you. I mean, especially when it comes
(38:18):
to children and people are like, you know, wow, they
really this thing was really going after the kid. The
kid is special. Usually nine times out of ten, the
kid is able to understand, notice, perceive little advancements in
mankind's abilities, if you will, And these are attractive to
have man, because what is he trying to do. He's
(38:39):
trying to slow our progress. He's trying to slow the
role of mankind to evolve, to teach others to spiritually
be awoken, awake, awaken and awaken. I don't know, but
you have to wake up, smell the roses, see the
(39:00):
universe that we are in the midst of, and how
we are a part of it and everything, and how
we're connected to other beings and souls and just the
whole big shebang. And if you're somebody who is sincere
awake kind, these are also evolutionary elements of mankind, because oh,
(39:23):
we can be brutal, can't We can't we? And I
think that's the scary part about this whole notion of
us creating AI artificial intelligence. Well, we haven't got this
stuff figured out ourselves. But you know, I'm gonna kind
of wrap it up on your email here after the break.
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(39:43):
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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark that Comes Light
with Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio Hey Coast to
Coast i AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break,
EDWARDO wrote me a nice, juicy email and it is
always appreciated. Here on this program to give as much
detail as you can. And he had a common question,
(41:39):
you know why me I was a kid hat man
came for me, used my mother as a puppet tear
to pull me in. And your mom totally doesn't remember it.
I mean she was like in a sleepwalking state, sounds
like to me. And he kind of stuck his little
fingers in the wrong places and pulled her strings and
try to grab a hold of you, try to make
(42:00):
an easy grab. You know, he's very opportunistic, very much so.
And your light must have been awfully bright. And he
took a look and said, oh, there you have it.
You know, a lot of people tell me, you know,
a psychic once told me this. And let me tell you,
I was never a huge believer of psychics, okay, because
(42:22):
I've had people tell me things so much over the
years that I just always kind of left it too.
If I meant to know it, I will, It'll come
to me at some point. I've experienced a lot of
things and people are like, oh, you're a medium, Oh
you're this. I can't put a title to these things.
All I know is they happen, and I'm honest, and
(42:42):
I put it out there when things happen, and hope
people can relate or hope I can find answers. And
you know, at some point I'm gonna share it with
you guys about some really big doozies of things that
I've been learning. And oh man, my life turned upside
down for a bit and flipped a little bit sideways
and then backflipped, and boy, the things I'm learning, you know.
(43:06):
So you never know with life, You just never know,
especially if you have a paranormal life. So AnyWho where
was I? Yeah? So you know, these things happen, And
I feel that, EDWARDO, that you obviously caught hat Man's attention.
So did your mom some kind of vulnerability and very
(43:28):
religious woman, you know, and people try to cover themselves
in prayers and then when something slips in, you know,
they're shocked, you know, like could have taken over my mother.
He's opportunistic again. She could have had a dream of
something like a puppy came up to her feet and
she picked it up. Well it was hat Man and
(43:49):
that belly of that little beast, little fuzzy little thing.
But that doesn't seem right, you know, But something in
her gut might have told her something's wrong with this puppy,
but I'm gonna pick up anyways, and gouchi guji. You know.
But it sounds crazy, but he does anything it takes
to gain that acknowledgment, that access, and once he's in,
(44:11):
he tries to see what else he can do. So, yeah,
you caught us attention. I take it as a compliment,
but very very freaking very scary. I understand that you
have not lost the image of what it was that
you experienced all these years later. And I don't know
many people who forget their hat Man experiences unless they passed.
(44:33):
I'll hit their head. You know. It caused a little
brain damage, but it's it's a life changing event, and
you know, not until you experience it. People just don't
quite understand how that could happen. But I feel you
special you huh, Eduardo. Don't want to be one of
those special ones. But yeah, okay, thank you for writing me, though,
(44:56):
ed Warder and taking the time for all of the
cool little images and all the words too. All right,
moving on to the next email. This one says, dear Heidi, Hello,
I would like to talk to you more about hat Man. Okay,
we're having a conversation here. He has been with me
since I was a boy. I'm so sorry, But unlike
(45:19):
most people, I do not believe he intends to do
me harm. Okay, okay, but instead I am starting to
believe he is there to watch over me and protect me. Wusa, highty, Wusa?
(45:40):
Who didn't I tell you, guys, every once in a while,
I get these types of emails I do. I get
these types of emails or people like I think. I
think he's theared to protect me. But okay, you have
experienced him since you were a boy, and now you've
come to this conclusion. I bet you're scared as a kid.
If you're not scared now, but you still have intervals
of it because that is just that's him. Do not
(46:05):
be fooled. Do not give him a new title. Okay,
just please, don't. I beg you. But a lot of
people do this, and I can't help but to think
the reasons why is because you know, it's always say
he's always watching, He's got this I don't know, this
feeling of you know, lingering, and it's like, well, he
(46:28):
hasn't harmed me yet, so what what other role could
he have? Well? Maybe he's just a standing guard. Well,
just so you know, you're not the first one, and
I'm sure you won't be the last. All right, continuing,
what's this next? The next letter, the next letter, the
(46:48):
next line. He is still very scary when he is around. Well, okay,
so are we having this conversation. Okay, I'm listening. I'm listening.
But I believe he keeps trying to warn me of things,
and I believe he is trying to communicate to me
(47:08):
about quote something, but I can't decode his symbolism. My
stepfather was a non denominational pastor, and I grew up
in the church. I know the Old and New Testament
almost by heart, so I do have a quote unquote
(47:30):
religious background. My seven year old son has just had
an encounter with him, oh while we were camping. Oh. Sorry,
it just goes through the generations. Unfortunately, it really does
happen that way. And my son he described him perfectly.
(47:51):
He has been turning on my lights while we sleep.
He usually plays with electrical things. There is so many
many things I could tell you. I want to speak
to him. Oh, comeing, come on, come on, come on,
come on, come on, and find out why he has
saved me and warned me so many times in my life. Now,
(48:14):
if that's true, and this is not just an element
of your interpretation, why didn't you share those stories? What
did he what did he do? A camping trip? Your
son saw him? Okay, but he saved you, suare please do?
I've heard that before as well, and with every favor
he does, you owe him. Unfortunately. Now, remember we are
(48:38):
talking about something that calls himself the devil. Okay, he
literally calls himself that pridefully, and he's doing you favors.
I mean, I don't know. I just that's not good.
It's not good. Okay, so many things are gonna tell
me okay blah blah blah. Many times I fear if
(49:01):
I was to try and get rid of him out
of my life, then I would be helpless. Codependency not good.
But it is a phenomenon I can't explain, and especially
when all the stuff I read says the hat man
is evil. I don't exactly agree. Phil, Hmm, you don't
(49:22):
exactly agree. But did your son feel warm and fuzzy
about him? And you hear about that he's very scary
when he's around. Okay, Why if he's there and he's
just saved you so much. You know, it's like, please understand,
because he hasn't caused you direct harm doesn't mean he's good.
(49:46):
He's working his way. He'll take a lifetime sometimes it
work and wear people down. And now he found access
to your son. Is that okay? You know he is perverted.
He is and I hate to say that, but he
has a knack for causing harm in all kinds of ways,
(50:07):
all kinds of scar tissue that he could build up,
he will do it, and he wears you down. He
just wears you down until the point that you know, oh,
now you see him as being a good guy. Potentially
all right, you don't exactly agrees evil, but potentially he's
not this or potentially he's not that. But please be
(50:30):
weary and leary that he is. He is not a friend.
Did you invite him? Did you willingly invite him? Did
you want him to meet your son? Was this an introduction? Introductory?
I don't know, expose like, oh, and by the way,
here's my boy. Go ahead and have Adam for the
rest of his life like he did to me, so
(50:52):
he can be protected. Right, do not feel helpless okay,
because one thing I learned, and it seems so strange,
but this is absolutely what happened to me. I was
terrified at the dark because I'd seen what was in
the dark. I didn't want to be in the dark.
And I knew I had to get over that because
that old saying of once a student is ready, the
(51:14):
teacher will appear, right. And once I learned to get
rid of that fear of these dark things, I started
to have experiences with the light of things, and I
mean angelic, I mean Jesus encounters and you know, all
these different things, and and no, I don't do drugs,
and no, I'm not into strange things and I'm not
(51:37):
I don't even know how to meditate. H just being honest,
I'm not even good at that. So when you shut
down something like him, you can and will be okay
because there are bigger and better protectors out there for
you and your son. You don't want it to be
wearing a gaucho hat and blackness and red glowing eyes. No,
(52:02):
you do not want that. And yeah, I've said many
times here on the show on how to protect yourself.
You can find a document on my Facebook group which
is Shadow People and hat Man experience er and uh yeah,
and if you send me a message anywhere on any
of social media at one Heidi Hollis. Put a one
in front of my name on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,
(52:28):
all of it. You know, it's all at one Heidi Hollis,
and I'll send over the way to get rid of
him and watch watch what happens. Okay, And I want
to tell everybody you know, be sure to go to
my website Shadowfolks dot com or Heidihollis dot com and
tell me your stories, tell me what you want me
to talk about here on this show, and I will
(52:49):
definitely I've on into it. And again, I really really
humbled that you guys trust me to send over what
it is that's your experience, and you know, I'm just
doing what I can to lighten the load of others
out there. And yeah, this stuff is heavy, but I
got this. I've got the positive on my side and
(53:12):
all about my beliefs and faith and God and Jesus
and all that good stuff. I always say, sprinkles from
Jesus on it. Antha, You'll be okay. All right, you guys,
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You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi
Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast i AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week,
this is the place you go to when you want
to hear the latest when it comes to anything out
of the ordinary, and I'm talking about a lot of
(01:22):
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Or if there's some little bits of advice you want
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I am not kidding when I say doing the shows
that are nothing, but your stories are absolutely my favorite.
I just dig into it and just lose myself. And again,
if you want to come on here to share your
story personally directly, You're welcome to do that. But I'm
(02:25):
not kidding you. I don't know. People want to write
and I don't mind I'm reading it, but man, I
want to talk to some of you guys more often.
Every so often somebody gets brave and says, okay, okay,
I'll do it, and I'm like, yeehaw. So guess what
today is all about your emails. It's all about your
personal stories. So we're gonna just dive on in and
(02:49):
see what we got. And I totally randomly grab these emails.
I do not line them up, but if you've been
listening to my shows, you will find that they kind
of coincide with each other, which is kind of freaky.
It's just blows my mind today. Don't know, these look
like a couple of juicy emails that I got thus far.
(03:09):
So we'll explore it together, shall we. Here we go,
this one says Hi Heidi. It's really amazing that after
all these years, I finally have an answer to what
I saw as a child more than thirty five years ago. Okay,
where are we going? It was something that I've never
(03:32):
been able to explain, but also something I know wasn't
a childhood dream because the story has never changed. There's
a clue, right, you know it's not your imagination and
the memory has never faded. Oh we're going deep dark.
This feels shadow people, Isha hat Man. So I can
(03:53):
in fact now say with confidence that I did, indeed
have an experience with what you have termed as the
hat Man. Aha. There it is This happened to me
in nineteen eighty six, when I was just eleven years old.
It was at nighttime. I left my room to go
(04:14):
to the kitchen to get a glass of water. Why
do we hear these types of stories? People go get
a glass of water in the middle of the night
and oooh, the craziest things happen. Don't do it. Have
a cup by your bed every night so you don't
have to go get one. That's what I do, bottle water.
It works great. I left my room, go get a kid. Okay.
(04:35):
I filled my glass up and began walking back through
the kitchen to my room. I stopped at the beginning
of the hallway to take a sip of my water,
and from where I was standing, you could see clear
across to the family room on the other side of
the house, which was about twenty feet. As I was drinking,
(04:59):
I got the straw longest sensation that I was being watched.
I looked over to the family room and there it was,
sitting on the couch, staring directly at Meugh hat Man
does tend to like living rooms and couches. I don't
(05:19):
know how how long people have been listening to the
show but yeah, this is wild. Oh okay, he likes
to be comfortable. I guess. It was wearing a large
fedora type hat with a big brim and a trench
coat that went all the way down to its feet.
I like how this person is calling hat man it
(05:42):
because very appropriate. The trench coat also had very big
buckles across the middle where buttons would normally be. The
couches were white, and what this thing was wearing was
very black. The contrast was incredibly stark. Oh why did
(06:04):
they give me really weird chills? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Ugh.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
After reading about this online, it seems like most people
have only seen its silhouette. No no, uh uh no,
I unfortunately saw its entire face. It was and remains
to this day to be the scariest thing I have
(06:30):
ever seen. That's what I've heard. That Rudolph Steiner sculpture
that you display on your website, Oh oh oh yes,
oh yes, is exactly its face, with a pale gray skin,
but also with a smile that went almost ear to
(06:51):
ear and with very sharp, jagged teeth, the way an
alligator would have. Okay, guys, Okay, So sometimes I get
repeated emails and I don't know. Sometimes the stories do
get to sound very similar to each other. This one
(07:11):
sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. But for those of
you who do not know, if you go to my
website Heidihollis dot com, on that first page, all the
way down, you will see the sculpture that I have
referred to as being hat Man, but Rudolf Steiner a
hundred years ago called Aramon, and I didn't know. I
(07:35):
had no idea. Somebody showed me the sculptures, like what
do you think of this? And I'm like, wow, that's
a really cool sculpture of hat Man. And the person
is like, what what are you talking about? This is
one hundred years old, Like one hundred years old. Well,
they must have known hat Man and then to know
that this thing referred to as Ariman also referred to
(07:56):
himself as pretty much being the devil, and so does
hat Man. And Rudolf Steiner said, one hundred years from
the time that he made the sculpture, or somebody or
the subject of Ariman hat Man would be stepping forward.
So I guess part of prophecy. How strange, and if
you know my backstory, stepping into such a thing as
(08:19):
it's weird, but it kind of fits. Okay, so continuing
just in case. I don't know if this is the
same email it got sent to me again, or it's
just a very similar story. But eh, it's not that
long from this part, so I'll just continue. It was
utterly terrifying. I stood there, paralyzed for what seemed like forever.
(08:42):
I didn't make a sound or acknowledge it in any way.
That was a smart move. I simply turned around and
slowly walked back to my room and went to bed.
That's that's pretty brave for a little kid. For the
longest time, I didn't really know how to describe what
(09:03):
I saw because it was so strange. My grandmother had
passed away a few months prior. At first I thought
maybe it was her spirit, but that explanation never felt right.
My grandmother was a kind woman, and this entity, whatever
it was, did not exude goodness, good read, good read.
(09:29):
I got the feeling of complete dread when I was
in its presence. Yeah. Over the years, I didn't really
think too much about it until I saw Oh, another
film project talking about quote sleep paralysis, Oh, don't get
me started, and it mentioned shadow beings. Oh, wonder they
(09:52):
didn't contact me about that. I started to research it
online and that's how I found your website. Oh, the
source of it reuly mind blowing to find out after
all this time that I'm not the only one who
has had this experience. I'm not sure how you managed
to handle researching this topic, because as I previously said,
it was the single most frightening thing that has ever
(10:16):
happened to me. Good luck to you and keep up
the great work. Sincerely, Roland, Thank you Roland's it is
one of those topics that people don't understand how a
lady can continue going forward and this stuff. And I
have to tell you this whole it feels like a
(10:37):
bashing almost were these film projects, none of them are mined,
are mine, I don't. I don't own them. They took
material and made shows and what not off of my work.
If you don't see my face in there, I'm not
part of it, though it's my materials. I guess that's
(10:57):
a way to put it. Because I introduced the topics
and the ramifications, definitions and what is and what's that
and all that. When it comes to shadow people and
hat man phenomena, it's not considered to be very ladylike
to dive into these things. So yeah, they skip over
(11:18):
that part oftentimes.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But this is.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
When you hear the word sleep paralysis. I don't agree
with that. Okay, this is my opinion. That's a medical
diagnosis sleep paralysis. We all experience that because for us
to go to sleep at night and if we're dreaming,
we're walking or swinging at something, our bodies don't go
with it. So we get this form of sleep paralysis.
That is natural, and that's normal, seeing things, feeling things,
(11:48):
having things talk to you, try to choke you out
or kill you. That is not sleep paralysis. This is
the phenomena that I call shadow people and the hat
Man phenomena, and it's thereat it's horrifying, you know. And
again this is just my opinion. You know, people get
diagnosed with, oh, you've got sleep paralysis, you know, night terrors,
(12:12):
so we're gonna give you something to sleep better at night,
so you forget about them. So that's what happens to people.
It got put into a medical model somehow, But I'm
not in the medical model of that. I am in
the paranormal, spiritual manner of what's going on. And we're
not all having mass hallucinations of the exact same thing
(12:33):
again my opinion. But you're welcome to go and get
a medical diagnosis to say this is what it was
in ided medicine. You know, good on you for that.
But yeah, it is. It's not easy to tackle these subjects,
and but I keep on keeping on and great people
(12:53):
like yourself reaching out letting me know that the message
is being found amidst of the strange bits of other
people throwing my stuff out there into different categories. It's wild.
So we're going to get to our first break. You
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you know all of us are just paying attention and
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it's kind of fascinating what my way. And you know
this last email that I just read and I'm talking
about how people have all these different perspectives off its
(15:09):
material shadow people hat man throwing it into the arena
of a medical model somehow, and it's it's just night
and day for me. I just I don't understand, and
it always kind of I get this little in the
back of my throat when I hear yeah, I suffer
from sleep paralysis night terrors. That's another one. If you
(15:34):
can look at at a timeline of when I came
on the scene talking about these things, and how many
years it took for somebody to try to flip it
and to become something else and then become a questionable reality,
just like you know that UFO topic or paranormal investigations.
You know, it's amazing to me how these things happen.
(15:58):
And again it's whitewashed. Just it's not not a thing,
and it's a shame. It's a shame. If they would
sit down and ask me and where I got this
information from and material from, Uh, it might have been
these projects might have actually been more worthy. But just
(16:19):
gets so frustrated. It's like, oh, Heidi, you did something
else over here. Oh did I did you see me
on it? Nope, Well it wasn't me. And then sometimes
I am on these shows and they feed my lines
to other people and take my material and all that
stuff anyhow they twist it. Oh yeah, it's a it's
a hot mess out there. So don't trust the media, Okay,
(16:40):
whatever you do. Never it's like hmm, I thought I
said that, but they told somebody else to say that,
and that looks like they're the genius. What is that?
What is that about? So crazy? So crazy? Yeah, some
of these shows that I have been well I shouldn't
(17:01):
say not that I have been on people who have
asked me like, hey, get on and do a show.
They don't want a woman leading on these shows, so
that's a no go, but they want that information. So
it's weird. It's a weird world out there, so strange,
and you know, statistically speaking, mostly women, it's a bigger
(17:25):
percentage of women who are into these topics. And yeah,
so go figure, go figure. I would think that this
is a hot commodity. And for guys that are into it,
I don't think they mind if a lady knows something, right,
raise your hand. Oh boy, Yeah, just having a conversation
(17:45):
here with my friends. Okay, such a strange world. Okay,
So anyways, I'm going to get on over here to
the next email and we're just gonna dive on in.
And wo is a big one. This is a big one.
Oh all right, let's let's just do this. Hi, Heidi,
my name is Eduardo, and I listened to your shows
(18:06):
and podcasts when time permits. Well, hey, they're Eduardo. I
have two things that I wanted to discuss with you,
which I've wanted to get off my chest for a while.
All Right, When I was about seven to nine years old,
I was sick one night and I was just my
mother and I in the apartment, and I lived in
(18:27):
the Bronx at the time. I believe I was recovering
from a cold and I had a fever. I remember
having those types of pajamas with the laminated rubber souls.
Oh I love those little the footies, right, which was
like a body suit with a zipper. Not sure if
you remember those, but anyway, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Those
(18:49):
are wonderful until you had to go use the bathroom
and then you're like freezing because you have done zipwall.
You guys understand, all right? All right, they could and you.
My mother calls me into her bedroom because she wanted
to know how it was feeling. So I walked over
to her bedroom, which was about twelve to fifteen feet
(19:11):
away from my room. It was about eleven pm at night,
and my father at the time he worked nights, so
he wasn't there. My older sister. She was asleep, and
she was only four years older than me, not much
taller than me, but she wasn't tall at all. My
little sister, who was about four years younger than me,
(19:32):
was asleep as well. My younger brother was not born yet,
so there were only three of us. So as I
am about to enter my mother's bedroom, I stop dead
in my tracks. A boy. Okay, I saw, oh my,
oh my gosh, I got chills. I saw someone sitting
(19:53):
in my father's recliner chair, which he kept in a
corner near the window in her bedroom. Oh man, this
has happened again, guys coinciding emails. I can't even tell
(20:13):
you how random I grab these from the far spaced
out dates. This is crazy. I really, if you saw me,
just goosebumps, just goosebumps. Absolutely, just mind blowing. And what's
cool is they have a little image here of a
(20:34):
recliner to show me what it kind of looked like. Okay,
and they continue. The individual sitting in the chair was
a tall, slender, mmmm, well dressed individual and like a
dark beige trench coat with a fedora hat on. And
(20:59):
now I'll tell you beige as another color. That hat
man does tend to wear You just don't hear it much,
but yeah he does. The trench coat was tied at
the waist with a fastener which belonged to the coat.
For the life of me, I could not see his face.
(21:20):
I swear the cemal went to describe areman, I was
about to fall over on this chair because come on,
I mean, how much in common could you have here? Okay?
My father was a husky burly man at about five
six or five seven. And my father was humorous when
(21:40):
we're little, but he would never take a break from
his job to play dress up with my mom. That's funny.
That would be way out a character for him. And
that's for darn sure. He was a mechanic for most
of his adult life, not in his netics to engineer
(22:01):
something like this. Oh, I feel you. My dad was
a computer engineer, like probably one of the first on
the planet and the things that he saw. But my
dad's very humanist too, so he was big jokester and all.
But I wouldn't do something like that either, So I
feel you. I did not enter my mother's bedroom. I
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was paralyzed with fear. I know that it was not
my father because the man sitting in the recliner was
much taller than him and he seemed really thin, like skinny,
so I knew it was not my father. My mother
(22:44):
for some reason kept signaling me to come in. Mom's like,
come on, come on, protect me. I don't know. I'm
not there yet, so I'm reading. She was sitting on
the bed near the recliner. It appeared as though she
was having a nice little chat with this individual before
(23:06):
I appeared. What on earth? My mother did not appear
to be startled, alarmed, or even scared. She seemed casual,
like nothing was wrong. Well, that is puzzling, hmm. I
wonder if she's familiar with this type of presence, if
this is not like anything out of the ordinary, because
(23:29):
or she didn't see it for all we know. Okay, continuing,
but it seemed odd to me that this individual would
be in my home late at night. My mother was
not the type to ever let a strange man or
even a friend of my father's upstairs without my father
(23:51):
being present. Well, that's the right thing to do, especially
up in your bedroom, and to a married woman. She
was not that type of woman. There you go. She
was very faithful, traditional strict and old fashioned. My mother
was also a devout Catholic and prayed the Rosary extensively
(24:15):
at this point. As a child, I am at an
impass Do I run? Do I tell Mom? I'm sure,
I'm sure those things are going through your head, Like
do do I save myself or do I save the
whole family? Ooh, the horrors, the horrors. Okay, my mom
(24:37):
is still trying to reel me in choice of words,
have me puzzled, Like do you feel like she's kind
of possessed and this thing is actually the one calling you? Wow?
Almost like she wanted to introduce me to this ominously
strange and peculiar man. Huh. I saw that my mother
(25:01):
was as calm as f word, so I cautiously took
baby steps towards her. It's like, I feel you. I'm
totally imagining as my head, like really, Mom, really, come on,
come on, come on. It's like I want some candy.
You know, here's my friend. I'm seeing this in my head. Okay,
(25:24):
who Heidi? For the life of me, I could not
see his face. The light in the hallway was on,
so I could see my mom sitting there as the
light partially lit her room area just enough to see
the figure, but not his face. It's like his face
(25:48):
was covered or somehow hidden on this person. Yeah, that's
typical of hat man. Sometimes his face, of course, could
be solid black. And the really common descriptions that always
catches me is absent of light. It's like you can't
even get a reflection off the nose, a mouth, anything,
(26:12):
totally absent of light. So it's you're calling right into
that pattern here, And this is a big email, So
I'm going to keep on reading this here after the
break because it's juicy and I appreciate it. EDWARDO, good
on you for going and putting in the details there.
All right, you guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes
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Now welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Vike
with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio. Hey, Coast to
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Coast AM. There a normal podcast network today. It is
all about your stories, your emails, and wow, we've got
a doozy. We've got Eduardo, who coincidentally has discovered a
hat man sitting on the chair next to her mother,
(28:10):
who was coursing him to come closer, as if she's
going to introduce him to hat man. And I kid
you not prior email the hat man again, sitting on
couches very common. I really didn't set these emails up.
I really didn't, So okay, anyways, I am continuing this
(28:30):
story because this is wild. Eduardo continues. He looked like
he was wearing a mask or a bandage or something
which prohibited me from seeing his face. That's that absence
of light. It was dark in my mother's bedroom, but
the light from the hallway would cast light into the
(28:52):
room up to the point where my father's recliner was located.
At the time. There it was dark until this man
decided to make a move and came into the light. Ooh, chills, chills,
chills on his for Dora, he did have a feather
(29:14):
on the side. You know, I have to tell you guys,
as I'm reading this, these cute little icons of feathers
and a recliner pops up. So EDWARDO puts some time
into this. Again, kudos to you, EDWARDO. Okay, definitely not
a hat that my father would wear. Ever, not sure
if that helps. Yeah, you know, having the feather in
(29:37):
the cap and a beige trench coat is it's weird,
But like when he changes up his outfit, it seems
to be I have had more of the feather in
the hat type of scenario with the beige, so he's matching.
I guess, I don't know. As I got close to
my mom, this individual decided to slowly I just knew it,
(30:01):
and creepily lean forward from the chair and ever so
slowly tried to reach for me. You know, I gotta
tell you, creepily. I'm surprised, as a word like, it's
not being flagged on this. I copy pasted his email
into a word document. That's a that's a word everybody, creepily.
(30:26):
Oh so he reached for you. When this individual flexed
its arm to reach for me, I noticed that this
individual had long fingers and sharp nails and wrinkled hands.
H Have you guys seen the latest Jurassic World movie
(30:47):
and you'll see there's a dinosaur on there, a newly
introduced one that has these extremely long claw like appendages. Okay,
and that's something that reminds me of hat Man. Believe
it or not. People described these disgustingly long, dangly, pointy
(31:08):
fingers that he has, and some have said bony, but
you're seeing that they're wrinkled.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Ugh.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Oh no, oh no, oh no oh no. This gets worse.
And then it either growled or moaned while it stretched
towards me. I am not kidding you, head to toe goosebumps.
I don't know about you, guys. It scared the poop
out of me, and I ran for my life as
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I exited my mother's bedroom. Huh. I went to my bedside,
scared and kept my eyes completely shut, hoping it wouldn't
get me. I'm so puzzled. What was mom thinking. I'm
(31:59):
forty nine years old now. Sometime around my early thirties,
I questioned my mother, oh thank gosh about the incident
several times. She claims she doesn't remember anything about it. Huh,
she smiles, and I chuckled about it with her. But
(32:19):
I know what I saw and experienced as a little boy. Hum,
see that, like I kind of like along the lines
of what I was thinking. She may have been possessed,
because what mother would say, come, come, and you said
it looked like she was having a conversation just prior
to her calling you over. Huh. I can't help but
(32:44):
to wonder how sick you were. You were in a
weekned state, but you set a cold with a fever,
like colds should not give you a fever, so I
don't know, it's really strange, but you were in a
week in state still nonetheless, so that's a that's so weird. Okay.
The hat man appeared to me when I was a child,
(33:06):
and I remember it like it was yesterday. I'm wondering
why my mother doesn't remember this why she forgot this? Well,
you know, that's one of the things I just brought up. Actually,
that sounds like almost like she was possessed slightly, that
he was pulling the strings and using her voice and
her demeanor and everything to manipulate you, to bring you
(33:30):
in closer like a spider, ugh, waiting to trap you.
I mean, what a horrible thing to do. And he
is known to possess people. She might have been asleep
and he just kind of wiggled his finger into her
ear and pulled a few buttons and are pushed and well, ah,
(33:51):
there you have it. I mean, it sounds so absolutely
twisted and absurd to think, my mother, how could it
get at me my mom like that? But he does.
This is just what he does, and he's good at it,
and he's been doing it for a very, very long time.
So we've got a big learning curve to better understand him,
(34:14):
that's for sure. But there are patterns, and that's why
I share my emails here so everybody can pay attention
to the patterns. I've been one person sitting behind doing columns,
writing books, doing cartoons, comics, anything TV shows. I was
just trying and hoping that others could pick up on
(34:38):
what it is I'm screaming about. And as strange as
it sounds, remember before this lifetime agreeing to come here
to do this, to tell teach anything and everything that
could get this message across. And now I'm here sharing
it with you and trying to do it the right way.
(34:58):
And I'd like to think him kind of figuring it
out and have been successful in spreading the word to millions.
Not everybody knows how they came across this information, but
you're here now, right, all right, So continuing with this email,
all right, second question, all right, it's got it totally
(35:20):
clear here. You had a podcast a few years ago
where the host was a young black man, I believe,
where he introduced you and said, we have a great
show today and we got Heidi Allis in the house.
And that's all I remember what he said. But you
talked about the haunted house you grew up in, talked
(35:40):
about your Puerto Rican roommate in college, and other paranormal
occurrences and aliens. That podcast was removed from YouTube or
the uploader removed it from YouTube for personal reasons. Do
you know which podcast I'm referring to? You did it
a few years before COVID struck. It was an excellent broadcast.
You talked about how the aliens were speaking through your
(36:02):
roommate and that they didn't want to get close enough
to the ground because we have the technology to shoot
them down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are all the things
I talk about. Generally. Program was like two hours long.
I do believe I know what you're speaking of, and
I talk about these matters on several shows, not just
(36:24):
that one. So on most interviews you'll hear me talking
about these things. If people ask the right questions, I
will definitely touch on those types of subjects. But yeah, so,
and please tell me why the hat man appeared to
me when I was little? What did I do? About
seven years ago? A psychic told me that my energy
(36:46):
was at a very high vibrational frequency. My integer was very,
very high and hot. I'm wondering if that had something
to do with it, even when I was a child.
Hope to hear from you soon, sincerely, Eduardo. Well, thank
you Eduardo for reaching out. I believe you're speaking of
(37:08):
Hocus forty fifth. I was on his program, and yeah,
he's been on his show a few times. Really, really
lively conversation. And you know what's when it comes to
people that experience hat man, they're always like, why me,
what did I ever do? This thing was so evil
it wanted me. It pompeteered your mother to get access
(37:32):
to you. So he was really trying hard. Like that's
a unique bend. But he does this, He does this
before our first timer. That's kind of kind of different.
You know, I kind of wrapped my head around that
for a first time introduction. He just tried to grab
a hold of you, hm and moved in slow motion,
and he wore a different outfit with a feather in
(37:54):
his hat. That's interesting. Yeah, I can't always explain his
motivations and his ways of trying to gain access to
a person, but I will say I will say that
for him to go through so much trouble, there's something
definitely different about you. I mean, especially when it comes
(38:18):
to children and people are like, you know, wow, they
really this thing was really going after the kid. The
kid is special. Usually nine times out of ten, the
kid is able to understand, notice, perceive little advancements in
mankind's abilities, if you will, And these are attractive to
have man, because what is he trying to do. He's
(38:39):
trying to slow our progress. He's trying to slow the
role of mankind to evolve, to teach others to spiritually
be awoken, awake, awaken and awaken. I don't know, but
you have to wake up, smell the roses, see the
(39:00):
universe that we are in the midst of, and how
we are a part of it and everything, and how
we're connected to other beings and souls and just the
whole big shebang. And if you're somebody who is sincere
awake kind, these are also evolutionary elements of mankind, because oh,
(39:23):
we can be brutal, can't We can't we? And I
think that's the scary part about this whole notion of
us creating AI artificial intelligence. Well, we haven't got this
stuff figured out ourselves. But you know, I'm gonna kind
of wrap it up on your email here after the break.
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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark that Comes Light
with Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio Hey Coast to
Coast i AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break,
EDWARDO wrote me a nice, juicy email and it is
always appreciated. Here on this program to give as much
detail as you can. And he had a common question,
(41:39):
you know why me I was a kid hat man
came for me, used my mother as a puppet tear
to pull me in. And your mom totally doesn't remember it.
I mean she was like in a sleepwalking state, sounds
like to me. And he kind of stuck his little
fingers in the wrong places and pulled her strings and
try to grab a hold of you, try to make
(42:00):
an easy grab. You know, he's very opportunistic, very much so.
And your light must have been awfully bright. And he
took a look and said, oh, there you have it.
You know, a lot of people tell me, you know,
a psychic once told me this. And let me tell you,
I was never a huge believer of psychics, okay, because
(42:22):
I've had people tell me things so much over the
years that I just always kind of left it too.
If I meant to know it, I will, It'll come
to me at some point. I've experienced a lot of
things and people are like, oh, you're a medium, Oh
you're this. I can't put a title to these things.
All I know is they happen, and I'm honest, and
(42:42):
I put it out there when things happen, and hope
people can relate or hope I can find answers. And
you know, at some point I'm gonna share it with
you guys about some really big doozies of things that
I've been learning. And oh man, my life turned upside
down for a bit and flipped a little bit sideways
and then backflipped, and boy, the things I'm learning, you know.
(43:06):
So you never know with life, You just never know,
especially if you have a paranormal life. So AnyWho where
was I? Yeah? So you know, these things happen, And
I feel that, EDWARDO, that you obviously caught hat Man's attention.
So did your mom some kind of vulnerability and very
(43:28):
religious woman, you know, and people try to cover themselves
in prayers and then when something slips in, you know,
they're shocked, you know, like could have taken over my mother.
He's opportunistic again. She could have had a dream of
something like a puppy came up to her feet and
she picked it up. Well it was hat Man and
(43:49):
that belly of that little beast, little fuzzy little thing.
But that doesn't seem right, you know, But something in
her gut might have told her something's wrong with this puppy,
but I'm gonna pick up anyways, and gouchi guji. You know.
But it sounds crazy, but he does anything it takes
to gain that acknowledgment, that access, and once he's in,
(44:11):
he tries to see what else he can do. So, yeah,
you caught us attention. I take it as a compliment,
but very very freaking very scary. I understand that you
have not lost the image of what it was that
you experienced all these years later. And I don't know
many people who forget their hat Man experiences unless they passed.
(44:33):
I'll hit their head. You know. It caused a little
brain damage, but it's it's a life changing event, and
you know, not until you experience it. People just don't
quite understand how that could happen. But I feel you
special you huh, Eduardo. Don't want to be one of
those special ones. But yeah, okay, thank you for writing me, though,
(44:56):
ed Warder and taking the time for all of the
cool little images and all the words too. All right,
moving on to the next email. This one says, dear Heidi, Hello,
I would like to talk to you more about hat Man. Okay,
we're having a conversation here. He has been with me
since I was a boy. I'm so sorry, But unlike
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most people, I do not believe he intends to do
me harm. Okay, okay, but instead I am starting to
believe he is there to watch over me and protect me. Wusa, highty, Wusa?
(45:40):
Who didn't I tell you, guys, every once in a while,
I get these types of emails I do. I get
these types of emails or people like I think. I
think he's theared to protect me. But okay, you have
experienced him since you were a boy, and now you've
come to this conclusion. I bet you're scared as a kid.
If you're not scared now, but you still have intervals
of it because that is just that's him. Do not
(46:05):
be fooled. Do not give him a new title. Okay,
just please, don't. I beg you. But a lot of
people do this, and I can't help but to think
the reasons why is because you know, it's always say
he's always watching, He's got this I don't know, this
feeling of you know, lingering, and it's like, well, he
(46:28):
hasn't harmed me yet, so what what other role could
he have? Well? Maybe he's just a standing guard. Well,
just so you know, you're not the first one, and
I'm sure you won't be the last. All right, continuing,
what's this next? The next letter, the next letter, the
(46:48):
next line. He is still very scary when he is around. Well, okay,
so are we having this conversation. Okay, I'm listening. I'm listening.
But I believe he keeps trying to warn me of things,
and I believe he is trying to communicate to me
(47:08):
about quote something, but I can't decode his symbolism. My
stepfather was a non denominational pastor, and I grew up
in the church. I know the Old and New Testament
almost by heart, so I do have a quote unquote
(47:30):
religious background. My seven year old son has just had
an encounter with him, oh while we were camping. Oh. Sorry,
it just goes through the generations. Unfortunately, it really does
happen that way. And my son he described him perfectly.
(47:51):
He has been turning on my lights while we sleep.
He usually plays with electrical things. There is so many
many things I could tell you. I want to speak
to him. Oh, comeing, come on, come on, come on,
come on, come on, and find out why he has
saved me and warned me so many times in my life. Now,
(48:14):
if that's true, and this is not just an element
of your interpretation, why didn't you share those stories? What
did he what did he do? A camping trip? Your
son saw him? Okay, but he saved you, suare please do?
I've heard that before as well, and with every favor
he does, you owe him. Unfortunately. Now, remember we are
(48:38):
talking about something that calls himself the devil. Okay, he
literally calls himself that pridefully, and he's doing you favors.
I mean, I don't know. I just that's not good.
It's not good. Okay, so many things are gonna tell
me okay blah blah blah. Many times I fear if
(49:01):
I was to try and get rid of him out
of my life, then I would be helpless. Codependency not good.
But it is a phenomenon I can't explain, and especially
when all the stuff I read says the hat man
is evil. I don't exactly agree. Phil, Hmm, you don't
(49:22):
exactly agree. But did your son feel warm and fuzzy
about him? And you hear about that he's very scary
when he's around. Okay, Why if he's there and he's
just saved you so much. You know, it's like, please understand,
because he hasn't caused you direct harm doesn't mean he's good.
(49:46):
He's working his way. He'll take a lifetime sometimes it
work and wear people down. And now he found access
to your son. Is that okay? You know he is perverted.
He is and I hate to say that, but he
has a knack for causing harm in all kinds of ways,
(50:07):
all kinds of scar tissue that he could build up,
he will do it, and he wears you down. He
just wears you down until the point that you know, oh,
now you see him as being a good guy. Potentially
all right, you don't exactly agrees evil, but potentially he's
not this or potentially he's not that. But please be
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weary and leary that he is. He is not a friend.
Did you invite him? Did you willingly invite him? Did
you want him to meet your son? Was this an introduction? Introductory?
I don't know, expose like, oh, and by the way,
here's my boy. Go ahead and have Adam for the
rest of his life like he did to me, so
(50:52):
he can be protected. Right, do not feel helpless okay,
because one thing I learned, and it seems so strange,
but this is absolutely what happened to me. I was
terrified at the dark because I'd seen what was in
the dark. I didn't want to be in the dark.
And I knew I had to get over that because
that old saying of once a student is ready, the
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teacher will appear, right. And once I learned to get
rid of that fear of these dark things, I started
to have experiences with the light of things, and I
mean angelic, I mean Jesus encounters and you know, all
these different things, and and no, I don't do drugs,
and no, I'm not into strange things and I'm not
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I don't even know how to meditate. H just being honest,
I'm not even good at that. So when you shut
down something like him, you can and will be okay
because there are bigger and better protectors out there for
you and your son. You don't want it to be
wearing a gaucho hat and blackness and red glowing eyes. No,
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you do not want that. And yeah, I've said many
times here on the show on how to protect yourself.
You can find a document on my Facebook group which
is Shadow People and hat Man experience er and uh yeah,
and if you send me a message anywhere on any
of social media at one Heidi Hollis. Put a one
in front of my name on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,
(52:28):
all of it. You know, it's all at one Heidi Hollis,
and I'll send over the way to get rid of
him and watch watch what happens. Okay, And I want
to tell everybody you know, be sure to go to
my website Shadowfolks dot com or Heidihollis dot com and
tell me your stories, tell me what you want me
to talk about here on this show, and I will
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definitely I've on into it. And again, I really really
humbled that you guys trust me to send over what
it is that's your experience, and you know, I'm just
doing what I can to lighten the load of others
out there. And yeah, this stuff is heavy, but I
got this. I've got the positive on my side and
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all about my beliefs and faith and God and Jesus
and all that good stuff. I always say, sprinkles from
Jesus on it. Antha, You'll be okay. All right, you guys,
we have come to the bottom of another fabulous program
you have been listening to. Dark It Comes Light with
me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio, a Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye.
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