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and people are always like, what really, like this isn't you? Yeah?
It is? Yeah? Uh huh so I'm human too. It's like,
I like, I like chatting it up on uh online
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and getting to know people because you know, sometimes I
think people get so detached in the world and not me.
I want to sit there and hear people out directly.
I miss going to conferences though, man. I had the
best time going to the conferences out there and chatting
to people. And you know what, I'm gonna start doing
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more of those. I've done some. I've done quite a
few all over the place, but definitely need to start
hitting some of the sci fi paranormal UFO conventions. I
usue them, do the comic ones, I love them, so,
you know, speaking of which, also check out my paranormal
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at the Outlanders Comic on Instagram and you can go
to the Outlanders Comic dot com. And you know what,
I'm gonna just lay it down. I'm just gonna dive
into this very very interesting article that was sent to
me by my friend Maureen today. Mm hmm, you guys, wow,
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I mean as well. This actually was published today and
my eyeballs almost fell out of my head. And I
think I think it's very timely. I think it's very
much needed, and I think it's a nod to us
folks who have been looking into stranger topics for certain.
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And I think I've mentioned a couple of times here
on this program that when it comes to Catholicism, to
the whole belief system, like I'm Christian, you know, And
I've often been corrected by those who are Catholic, you know.
I'd say, oh, you're Christian too, Like, no, I'm Catholic,
and I didn't understand that, and like you believe in Christ, right,
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Like okay, then we're on the same wavelength, you know.
But they're very different, very different. I think there's always
different degrees in different belief systems. And I was really
surprised to find out how absolutely supernatural the Catholic beliefs
are and what they look into, like they look to miracles,
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they look to the mystical. Like that's a word I
haven't even used a whole lot in my days, mystical,
because I always like get this image of my head
conjured up of somebody's sitting there with a crystal ball, right,
and like mystical, I don't know, And there's a lot
of purple involved, and I like purple, but it's just
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I don't know, I don't know what that is. It's
like it just seems to be. It's something I just
I never thought, I never thought to look, it's I
don't even know how to express the bewilderment when I
was first kind of put on to the topic of
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Catholicism and the different people that they feel have different
abilities the word by location. It sounds so odd, but
I really hadn't heard of that before. People that could
be in more than one place at a time, like
that blew my mind, Like hold it, that's been acknowledged
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by others, Like I know, I've experienced it myself, but
I didn't know the word for it, and it's not
what happened. There's the the thought of being able to heal.
Now that's controversial. I have heard of retreats all over
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the world right that have people who say they're able
to heal, calling upon different methods to do that. Some
feel it comes just straight from themselves. Others say, you know,
other deities or God or Jesus or some say aliens. Yeah,
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even even aliens. It's it's a it's the world is
fascinating and yeah so and then there's also places that
have healing powers, that's believed to have healing powers, and
so people do this thing that I have been looking into,
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like pilgrimages, Like pilgrimages like hold on like and to
watch the videos of people flocking to a place where
they thought something mystical or miraculous happened and then they
might experience it for themselves. Even one of my good friends,
Kevin Kevin Cook, he he was a Methodist minister and
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he went to a shrine somewhere in New York and
I think I think he shared it when it came
on the show one time, and yeah, he just thought,
I go check out the shrine. It was Catholic and
mary some kind of dedication to me shrine. And he's
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walking through the woods to get up to the chapel
and he was overwhelmed by a really strong smell of roses,
and you know, it gets up to the chapel and
he's like, my goodness, where are the rose bushes? Because man,
you know, just hit him so hard. And they looked
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at him like you smell the roses and he's like, yeah,
you know, where did that come from? And they're like, oh,
that's one of the miracles of this place, you know.
And that's when he knew he had to look at
the topic and actually converted. You know, that was one
of the trigger points. I mean unsuspecting person. You know,
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so there's there's something going on. And same when it
comes to the topics of people claiming to see Mary
in different parts of the world. Okay, And I have
seen the videos of some of the children who've witnessed Mary,
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like at Gara Bandahal and the children are running backwards
up a hill doing things that are just absolutely impossible,
and you know, it's it's fascinating. Some people will say,
oh gosh, it looks possessed. Oh my goodness that you know.
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I don't know what it all is. I'm not a psychic.
I'm not an expert on these things. And people have
their assumptions about whatever. All I know is it's really
really fascinating and something's going on, plain and simple. Something's happening.
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As a scholar I once knew says, you know, something's happening.
Whatever it is, it's worthy of us to lend our
eyeball in our minds too. And I have been learning
looking into these things myself, because it's like God spoke
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right and people wrote it down, but for some reason
a lot of people think God's not talking as much
as he used to. And I think that's a mistake
to think that. I think there's a lot that's going
on in the world that's miraculous, you know, to put
it under a certain category or to funnel it under
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one denomination, I don't think that's the case at all.
I think there's a lot of people who are just
not always congregating getting together under a church and say, hey,
this happened. I think there's a lot of mystical and
magical and miraculous events that if we paid more attention
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to them, and if they got the media attention, people
would realize not everything's bad and negative out there. There's
some really tremendous things that show God is real. God
is around doing things. But then you know, a lot
of people are getting confused when it comes to hold it.
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The government says, there's UFOs. I'm sorry, UAPs out there?
What are ups? Oh, well, let's redefine it. We're gonna
say they are things that we aren't flying. Perhaps there's
a private group of people flying them. We don't know
if they're aliens, but we suspect not, or maybe a
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whole lot of answers in that right anomalous objects, no
aerial objects, they don't know. So knowing and hearing that,
and also hearing that the Vatican has said, you know,
we'd welcome our space brothers and sisters. It must confuse
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a lot of people out there to wonder. Well, then
we're where does that bring our belief system to if
if we're actually saying something else is out there, if
we're actually acknowledging our brother or sister, our mother or
father saw something, we're to believe this, where is that?
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Put our faith in God? Hold it? Where is God?
Is he floating in space? He on a ship somewhere?
Personally that those little details like that, I don't think
that matters so much faith. I think a lot of
people have realized that having faith kind of goes a
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long way. Prayer goes a long way. We notice that
we feel it, and we also search for these things, right,
I mean, why are we searching because we think somehow
it connects to our meaning in life? Up. Well, you guys,
you're in for an interesting show today because this article
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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark to comes like
with me, Lighty Hollis Anni iHeart Radio at Coach to
Coach AM Paranormal Podcast Network. As mentioned before the break,
I wanted to dive into the topic of what the
Vatican is up to lately, and how they're going to
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be addressing some of the more mysterious elements in the
world that we tend to talk about here on this show.
And I find it fascinating. I mean, it is just fascinating,
and I've wondered how are people going to handle some
of these big questions out there in the world when
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it comes to aliens. You know, shadow people, hat man. Okay,
we could throw that into the category of being demonic
and it fits right, But there's the alien element. And
I think though, and a lot of people speculated this
over the years when it comes to the alien aspect,
that perhaps they were, some were demonic, some were angelic.
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The way that these things look and how they're described
in the Bible, they don't always sound very human, these angels.
So what are we saying? I don't know. It's kind
of fun to have a look and to think on it.
I don't think anybody has all the answers. I always say,
if somebody says they do, run run from them, far, far,
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far away. But without further ado, I'm going to dive
into this. Oh well, there goes my computer to dive
on into this article. I swear as soon as I
said I'm going to dive into like everything went gobblygook
on my computer here just for a brief moment, but
to be expected, to be expected, I have some odd
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things that like to get excited around me. So anyways,
here we go. So this article this comes to us
from the Dailymail dot com. All right, and the title says,
Vatican Academy will pro mystical phenomena around the world, including
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weeping statues of Mary, stigmata and ghost sightings, under plans
to set up new observatory new observatory guys, and the
subtitle reads Pontifical Marianna International Academy says there are of
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cases to probe and the Holy See Institution hopes to
uncover phenomena like weeping statues of Mary. There are several
examples of Virgin Mary statues weeping blood or tears. Actually,
that's a phenomena that I've looked into as well and
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was amazed, amazed at some of the findings. A long
time ago, there was an episode called Signs from God
and what they did was put science to test faith,
and I think that was the subtitle of the show
something like that. So It was fascinating to me that
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was some time ago that that show came out and
they were able to prove there was a mystery going on.
I mean, they did an MRI scan on a statue
that was producing tears, and they tested the tears, and
then there was blood coming out of another one and
they tested the blood. And it's just fascinating. You can
find actually that that program is on YouTube, I believe
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somewhere scattered. But yeah, I mean so there's a lot
of different things out there like that. All right, So continuing,
but I'm curious about what's going on today, all right.
A Vatican academy is set to investigate quote, mystical phenomena
around the world, including weeping statues of the Virgin Mary,
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stigmata and ghost sightings. Did you hear it? Ghost sightings
under plans for a new dedicated observatory, the Pontifical Marina.
I don't know if they say Marianna International Academy. In
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other words, Pa M I Pammy, which describes itself as
a scientific institution of the Holy See, will hope to
uncover around a hundred ongoing phenomena in Italy alone. The
specialist Observatory which is still awaiting authenticity by the Church,
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will quote evaluate and study apparitions and mystical phenomena across
the globe. The Vatican News reports it will delve into
ghost sightings, interior locutions and stigmata locutions that's with a you, okay,
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which believers see as bodily marks, scars or pains corresponding
to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ. On the launch
of the new Observatory Scientific Committee, Marriologists, father Gianne Matteo
Roggio told local Italian media. Yeah, quote in Italy, there
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are around a hundred ongoing phenomena that the church is
following closely. Now. From what I've read and been looking into,
this is what the church does. I mean back in
way back in the times, like if you did something
that was blasphemous against the what the church thought was
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correct in the eyes of God or the Bible. I mean,
things happened, right, there were trials, there were which hunts,
as they say, and just a lot of a lot
of a lot of turmoil. If people were thought to
be offending God. So things and people being investigated, that's
not new. Putting it under this, guys, of you know, observing, learning,
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seeing what's going on in the world, looking for the miracles.
It's like it's like a miracle team they're looking for
all over the world. And I am curious. I don't
see anything that says only if you happen to be Catholic.
I don't see that saying here. But so the next
section of this it has a couple of images of
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statuettes of Mary with blood obviously blood coming down or
drying on their face, and it says it's kind of
repeating miscal phenomena around the world. And this show's pictured
crying statues of the Virgin Mary weeps tears of blood
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for the thirty eighth time in Argentina. So they're showing
this one on the left, and that was in twenty eighteen,
while another Madonna is said to have done the same
in Italy in recent years. And this one's on the right. Interesting,
And now they're showing another photo here, Okay, Saint Peter's Square,
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All right, moving on this is many of these are
local and restricted in scope. Not all of them receive
attention from the media in the general public scene. Sometimes
people just you know, they don't put it out there
for reasons I understand. And the new Observatory Committee, which
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will begin its first session on Saturday, had been keeping
its eye on a curious case involving a weeping Mary
statue in Treviano Trevinano, near Rome. Okay, it involved an
Italian woman facing an investigation for fraud after claiming her
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virgin Mary statue could cry tears of blood and multiplying
Nachi and Pizza really really flocked to see Gizella's cardidias
cardias predictions. I'm terrible with names, sorry, predictions. After her
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statue of our Lady Treviano Romano began weeping blood, followers
believe she brought messages from Mary, and some said she'd
even predicted the COVID pandemic. However, church investigators recently discovered
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the blood which her statue wept was not holy and
actually came from a pig, according to local media. Okay,
hold on, you know, Okay, this is the Daily Mail
I'm reading from, all right, So of course I got
to show the skeptical element and side to this per us. Right.
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It's like even when it comes to like the UFO
phenomena or Bigfoot phenomena or anything, it's kind of mysterious.
Oh well, here's the perspective of somebody who doesn't believe
in anything. Let's put that question in your mind before
we'll think miracle, right, I mean, that's just it's common practice.
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But also considering the source, this is the story that
they throw up first, versus one that might actually prove
something that's in the positive. You know, I don't, I
don't know. I don't. I don't understand the tactic. I
personally would like to hear, Oh a miracle happened here first, like, oh,
this is really intriguing instead of skeptical, I'm gonna put
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my frown face on and stop my feet out of
the room. Uh, you know, I don't get that. I
don't get that. But this is this is a shame.
So we're talking about miracles and we got somebody that
defrauded the topic. But you're like, well why and how
how does that benefit them? Let's continue to read. You know,
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it's always going to be something right, all right? Oh
this is so wrong. This is so wrong. Officials believe
the woman Gazella Cardias, has now fled after fleecing her
followers with tens of thousands of euros and donations. Oh man,
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this is not the first time that church officials have
decided to probe weeping Virgin Mary statues. Now, I know
that this topic has been investigated by the church and
by others for some time. Oh man. So here they're
showing the lady. There's a picture of her with a
giant statue of Mary. It's the size of a grown
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woman in a glass case with flowers.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
All around it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
So it says she has been exposed as a fraud
after church investigators discovered the blood was weeping pig blood.
That's terrible. Wow, let's say about that. That's that's that's
really a shame. So but anyways, we got more here
to read on this story, and it's it's fascinating, it real,
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it really is, because it's like I'm curious to hear
more and how the church is tackling these topics. All right,
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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with
me Idy Hollis Honey iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, I was just
diving into this lovely article regarding the mysteries and the
mystical that are being tackled by the Vatican with a
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new an academic approach, you could call it. And I
was just diving into this little part right here, right
underneath this photo of this woman they just found defrauded
a lot of people regarding donations that were made to
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her statue that was weeping and making predictions about a
lot of things, and you know, people like to believe
in the mysteries, right, especially when it comes to something
that might be holy. So it's like, do you knock
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the people for having the belief that they did to
come and check it out, because miracles like this haven't
been known to happen. Like I said the show that
I'd watched signs from God and how science is testing
faith and it was proven to be unexplainable. So hey,
I get it all right. So continuing this article, back
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in twenty eighteen, a New Mexico church found a madonna
which was leaking olive oil, sparking excitement that there was
a supernatural force behind it. Now, Bishop Oscar Kantu of
Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church in Hobbes, US so
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the church would determine whether or not the sign was
a good one or an evil one. Oh that's interesting. Hmm.
So that's interesting. I'm just thinking about if you saw
a statue weeping oil, it could be a bad sign
as well. I have never heard that to be an
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evil sign. Huh, all right. Continuing later that year, another
Virgin Mary, this time in Argentina, was seen weeping tears
of blood for what was reputed to be the thirteenth time.
And let me tell you, this looks like coagulated blood
and stuff. It's kind of ooh, it's hard. It's hard
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to see. But they're doing this like close up, like
this active video is underneath what I'm reading. Just to
tell you this an active video that's moving and zooming
into coagulated blood just pouring out of the eyes of
this statue. And I mean it's really thick. Uh So,
all right, continuing, The statue of the Virgin of the
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Mystic Rose has been linked to several quote miracles, such
as a woman who had a three inch tumor which
reportedly disappeared after she visited it. Now, one thing I
got to tell you when it comes to reported miracles
like that, I don't think anybody's more tough than the
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Vatican and investigating such things. So if they're on the case,
it's going to be really clarified to prove that miracle
that was claimed, all right, because they do that for
people like this is so I feel it's this is
so weird for me. Okay, I'm just like stuttering over
this because I didn't understand the topic of quote saints. Okay,
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I wasn't raised Catholic, and I'm like, well, what do
you mean? What is this whole saint process? And so
I looked into it and it's like, Oh, they really
dig in, They really dig in to make sure that
somebody is doing something that is said. And I just
very very deep investigational stuff because the scholar that I
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once knew said this is done that way, and I'm like, what,
That's a whole other world I never knew existed, all right.
Continuing a year prior, Catholic miracle investigators studied a Virgin
Mary and Poco in southwestern Mexico and which began to
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shed tears in front of its owners. The saint was
a Mexican version of the Virgin Mary, nicknamed La marient
Maurita Morinita, or the Brunettes. That's what it means. Followers
were astonished when images and videos surfaced of tears seemingly
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streaming down its cheeks and other incidents deemed to be supernatural,
and Archdiocese in Connecticut, US, United States, stunned followers last month.
Oh this is recent, just last month, when he claimed
a parishioner witnessed the number of wafers he was handing
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out for communion. Multiply watch them multiply eucharistic miracles. That's
what I've learned is the name of such things. Apparently
that is a really big deal too, because I mean,
what did Jesus do with the bread and the fish
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when they had so many people to feed and he
made those multiply. So there's a lot of people that
claim these things as well. So interesting, They're going to
look into this. So Pammy Pami's new Observatory is also
set to introduce local scientific committees in order to create
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a larger network for more probes. Think about that. So
it's not going to just be based in the Vatican,
like that'll be the headquarters, but they're going to have
these committees going around looking for people and items and claims.
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I'm curious about the ghost element, aren't you? Oh? Look
at this They're they're showing this statue. It almost looks
like a bronze statue of Mary with tears coming down.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
HM.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Back in twenty eighteen, it says underneath it new Mexico.
This is the New Mexico. One church found a madonna
which was leaking olive oil. This is the olive oil
one oh wow, huh. All right, and then they have
the other one that's showing tears. This one looks more
like a ceramic surface. Mary. Okay, interesting, But think about this, guys.
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This is a committee. I mean, these are committees that
are going to be established all over so they'll be
under the Vatican's orders. Hey, go take a look over there.
But they said ghosts as well ghosts. So there's a
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lot of ghosts out there. So are we gonna have
Vatican ghost hunters? Well, that'd be interesting. They want to
look at the miracle of that.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Okay, when I think ghosts, I think disgruntled spirits. Okay,
spirits are different though. That's somebody coming to visit you,
to say, hey, it's your uncle, I'm doing good, how
are you that type of thing. And they might not
just linger around and rattle things. Ghosts I find to
be of no relation. They happen to be there. They
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might give you a shove, they might mess up things.
They're not your friends. So this topic that they're talking
about here is weeping statues, right of Mary, And you know,
I didn't see them mention Jesus' statues, But I don't
know if that's as much of a phenomenon or not.
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That's not interesting, it's usually mary huh hmm. I'm not sure.
I'm not an expert. I've just been looking into this
stuff because it's like it's like a whole other paranormal mystery.
For me, I'm like, what what you guys have names
for this? This is? This is wild? And you've had
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this for how long you've known about these things? Like
it's it's amazing to me. I feel like a kid
in a candy shop learning some of this stuff. Not kidding,
not kidding, it really is Uh, it's just kind of wow.
But think about this, the ghost element, how does that
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relate to Vatican and religious thought? Yeah? Yeah, I know,
you know the Disciples of Jesus saw him walking on
the water and they thought it was a ghost. And
that's the only place they mentioned a ghost. Maybe not,
but what ghosts? So there's gonna be committees to go
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out and observe and see if there really are ghosts. Huh.
Now that is interesting. I mean who will they be
pulling together for that. Your local professor or your local
ghost hunter. Are they gonna come with equipment to say
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there's something here? Or does the Vatican group. Do they
have something that we don't know? Now? I don't know.
I think I've mentioned here on this program that there
are really super high tech EVP machines out there, Okay,
more than what you think ordained, created, constructed by various governments.
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If your local ghost hunter has an EVP ability just
putting your recorder out to the world me some people
at were a lot stronger around by the way, So
that's why I say ability. But it's like, and they're
able to actually pull voices from the air. Our government
(38:12):
has a machine that does that really well. So you
see them walking around with a microphone with a headset
on like they do in the movies. Yeah, they're listening.
They're listening. They realize that there's energy in the air
that can respond in this little bit of different dimension
that must be lingering above ours. You know, it's like,
(38:34):
where is that coming from? Where is that disembodied voice
coming from? Disembodied nobody voice? Where's it coming from? So
are they gonna enlist really cool technology? I really want
to know. I would love to be part of a
committee or actually be considered somebody local to resort to,
(38:57):
Like Heidi, do you have any interesting cases. Yes, I do, Yes,
I do. Would you like to use my resources? Because
I would? Look, can I go with you to check
it out as well? I mean I think it'd be
fast set to nating, fascinating. Yeah, and this is gonna
go on Saturday for their first meeting. I have a
(39:21):
feeling I know some of these people are going to
be on those discussions. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I think so.
I think so. I think we'll all be surprised. Stay here,
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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Like with me,
Randy Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to COASTDA Paranormal
Podcast Network. Oh, this is such an interesting conversation that
we're having here today. I am talking to myself, but
I'm really talking to you right because I'm sure everybody's
(41:33):
got their eyebrows raids going woww we're going there. I
wish that they would also open us up to UFO
pen on that and what it is that people are
reporting with some of these beings in being positive speaking
of God or Jesus and some of them just being
(41:53):
outright evil and demonic, okay, and connecting those dots. Why
close limit it? Right, I'm just I'm gonna dream big lockness.
I don't think that would fit in there. But from
what I was told, what NeSSI is? Maybe? All right? Oh,
I should say from my book The Secret War, I
(42:16):
was told that perhaps those creatures are actually the beast
written of in the Bible that will rise from the sea.
But there's more than one, all right. There's a lot
of lakes and bodies of water around the world that
claims lake monsters and they just can't seem to find them.
(42:38):
Does that happen? Perhaps because they are mystical, not just
mythical creatures, and they're fluctuating in and out, and they'll
come to stand fully above the water when things change here.
But who knows? All right? So continuing this article, it
says a Father Stefano Teach, part of the committee, explained
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the purpose of the Observatory is to activate national and
international commissions to evaluate and study apparitions and mystical phenomena
reported in various areas of the world. So right there, Well, okay,
(43:26):
they are kind of narrowing it down apparitions. I'm thinking, Marion,
mystical phenomena. I'm finding that that word. I didn't know,
but it's kind of attributed closely to Catholicism and some
of the belief system mystical, supernatural, that word too, That
(43:47):
word also gets used a lot. I swear to you,
I feel like I've been snoozing. I'm like, I just
did not know that there was this whole understanding out there,
and not surely within the church. I mean, you know,
I swear if I think a lot of Protestants out
(44:07):
there can agree that, you know, we're just kind of
more casual, more laid back, and just like, oh, here
we go, or talking about God Jesus, here's the Bible.
Oh and here's some lessons for you. And it's not like,
by the way, do you know what the Catholics believe. No,
we didn't know. I just thought, oh, they're Christian too,
(44:28):
they're all into the same things we are, and they are,
but they have these older understandings that have tradition and
things that we're just that familiar with. So and I
surely didn't. I mean, I had so much else going
on in my life. I just didn't stop to go
go read about them again. I thought they're pretty much
(44:49):
like us, you know, similar, but different with the beliefs
and these additions with saints and miracle huntings and relics,
and boy, the relic thing, that's really different. I did
not know till I went to the Vatican. I did
not know why there were people in glass cases. I
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had no idea. What's that? Oh gosh, what is that called? People?
Their bodies who are thought to not deteriorate, incorruptibles, that's
what they call them. So and I mean like people
that get buried, and they check them every so often, like, Wow,
(45:33):
they're not decomposing. Something miraculous is going on here, which
is I mean, what how are they not decomposing?
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Some have And the glass cases that I saw, some
of them didn't look so great. I'll just be honest.
Some of them didn't look so great. Others did. And
it is puzzling if truly these things have been tested
and proven to be one percent those are people. That's
(46:05):
that is wild? How's that happen? So I get it
having a look at these things. There's a lot of
things I don't understand. I'll be honest, I don't understand
it all, you know, But I do my best not
to judge people for what they believe to be true
for themselves. Who am I to go around and say
bad you? You know, we're all here on this planet
(46:28):
looking for some answers and learning as we go along. Right, Okay,
so I want to continue this story, uh, he added.
It will promote updating and training activities on this type
of events, and they're multiple spiritual and cultural meanings. Promote
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high dissemination and consultancy activities, especially at the service of
local churches and bishops, but also transdisciplinary research activities in
concert with academic institutions both lay and ecclesiastical, and the
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publication of the results of the researches carried out. Did
you get all of that? They want to open it up, guys.
They want to say, hey, what is the meaning here
and doesn't have something to do with the area in
(47:31):
particular culturally meaning and actually report on it and say, hey,
there's a miracle over here. Now in looking at the church,
the Catholic Church, and how they do create a stir
when they say, hey, this is real and people come
(47:54):
to see and it builds up the faith of people,
does it not? I mean, if you're looking at a
miracle that was absolutely studied by especially your local academics
and say, look, I have no answers. That's a big
whooptie do. That's a huge whoopedie doo. I like that word.
(48:19):
That is right, And I'm all about building up faith,
all right. I'm because I think it's absolutely necessary, especially
working around the demonic things I've named shadow people and
the hat Man phenomenon. So faith is good. I mean,
these dark things are placing their bets on us not
to figure them out or have that I don't know
(48:41):
Jesus to call on. All right, So continuing on here,
all right? Where was I? Oh? No? Okay? Fellow committee
member Father Raggio Rosio has previously spoken on topic of
mystical phenomena, notably in twenty twenty one when he revealed
that demand for exorcisms boomed during the pandemic. It sure did,
(49:06):
the Catholic priest told the Telegraph at the time, we
have seen an increase in the request for exorcisms because
the pandemic has made people more vulnerable to the idea
that Satan or some evil entity has taken over their lives. Hmm,
hat man, you guys not kidding. Hat Man stories went
(49:28):
through the roof, absolutely through the roof. Oh guess what, guys,
this is fascinating. You wouldn't believe what just happened out
of nowhere. I'm sitting here reading this article to you,
and it absolutely disappeared and said, oop, this this article
is no longer available. I had to click reload. That
(49:52):
was really weird. I've never kind of made me kind
of jump, and I don't jump very often from things.
Things don't scare me. That's just like woo, where to go?
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
That was bizarre. All right. Yeah, so hat Man, I
said hat Man on that disappeared. He was a big
problem shadow people. I mean, people were in a funk.
They were sick, They're losing their jobs, they were losing
their livelihoods. Yeah, it attracted a lot of darkness and yeah,
it was real. It was horrible, absolutely horrible. So yeah,
(50:27):
it reared its ugly head and just crazy. All right.
To continue and to conclude this story, people have fallen
into poverty. They found themselves suffering from anxiety and depression.
They feel that their lives are no longer in their
own hands, but in the hands of a malign force.
(50:48):
It's a big crisis. He was speaking at a six
day international conference where more than one hundred priests and
bishops from around the world gather in Rome to attend
the world's only recognized course in exorcism. Amazing, amazing. So
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the mystical events are all going to go underneath this
new observatory of sorts. How does that make you feel
out there? I really want to know. I'm excited because
they're saying they're going to open up the whole conversation
(51:34):
to us. This is going to be available for all
of us to take a look at. I'm curious if
they're going to involve those who are not Catholic or
is this only fall under those who are involved in
those churches? Cause again, I like to look at what
we have more in common than our differences. You're Christian,
me too? All right, cool, let's all be in the
(51:56):
same party and let's have a conversation. Like if I
see something, can I just report it to them? I
definitely see the hand being played here to involve people
to see the miracles of God, because I think definitely
our eyeballs get limited or we don't see and a
(52:17):
lot of people don't talk about what is they've experienced
in Yeah, faith, Wayne's the miracles that wakes people up.
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I want to sit there and hear people out directly.
I miss going to conferences though, man. I had the
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more of those. I've done some. I've done quite a
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I'm gonna just lay it down. I'm just gonna dive
into this very very interesting article that was sent to
me by my friend Maureen today. Mm hmm, you guys, wow,
(03:59):
I mean as well. This actually was published today and
my eyeballs almost fell out of my head. And I
think I think it's very timely. I think it's very
much needed, and I think it's a nod to us
folks who have been looking into stranger topics for certain.
(04:23):
And I think I've mentioned a couple of times here
on this program that when it comes to Catholicism, to
the whole belief system, like I'm Christian, you know, And
I've often been corrected by those who are Catholic, you know.
I'd say, oh, you're Christian too, Like, no, I'm Catholic,
and I didn't understand that, and like you believe in Christ, right,
(04:47):
Like okay, then we're on the same wavelength, you know.
But they're very different, very different. I think there's always
different degrees in different belief systems. And I was really
surprised to find out how absolutely supernatural the Catholic beliefs
are and what they look into, like they look to miracles,
(05:11):
they look to the mystical. Like that's a word I
haven't even used a whole lot in my days, mystical,
because I always like get this image of my head
conjured up of somebody's sitting there with a crystal ball, right,
and like mystical, I don't know, And there's a lot
of purple involved, and I like purple, but it's just
(05:33):
I don't know, I don't know what that is. It's
like it just seems to be. It's something I just
I never thought, I never thought to look, it's I
don't even know how to express the bewilderment when I
was first kind of put on to the topic of
(05:54):
Catholicism and the different people that they feel have different
abilities the word by location. It sounds so odd, but
I really hadn't heard of that before. People that could
be in more than one place at a time, like
that blew my mind, Like hold it, that's been acknowledged
(06:16):
by others, Like I know, I've experienced it myself, but
I didn't know the word for it, and it's not
what happened. There's the the thought of being able to heal.
Now that's controversial. I have heard of retreats all over
(06:36):
the world right that have people who say they're able
to heal, calling upon different methods to do that. Some
feel it comes just straight from themselves. Others say, you know,
other deities or God or Jesus or some say aliens. Yeah,
(06:57):
even even aliens. It's it's a it's the world is
fascinating and yeah so and then there's also places that
have healing powers, that's believed to have healing powers, and
so people do this thing that I have been looking into,
(07:17):
like pilgrimages, Like pilgrimages like hold on like and to
watch the videos of people flocking to a place where
they thought something mystical or miraculous happened and then they
might experience it for themselves. Even one of my good friends,
Kevin Kevin Cook, he he was a Methodist minister and
(07:42):
he went to a shrine somewhere in New York and
I think I think he shared it when it came
on the show one time, and yeah, he just thought,
I go check out the shrine. It was Catholic and
mary some kind of dedication to me shrine. And he's
(08:02):
walking through the woods to get up to the chapel
and he was overwhelmed by a really strong smell of roses,
and you know, it gets up to the chapel and
he's like, my goodness, where are the rose bushes? Because man,
you know, just hit him so hard. And they looked
(08:23):
at him like you smell the roses and he's like, yeah,
you know, where did that come from? And they're like, oh,
that's one of the miracles of this place, you know.
And that's when he knew he had to look at
the topic and actually converted. You know, that was one
of the trigger points. I mean unsuspecting person. You know,
(08:45):
so there's there's something going on. And same when it
comes to the topics of people claiming to see Mary
in different parts of the world. Okay, And I have
seen the videos of some of the children who've witnessed Mary,
(09:06):
like at Gara Bandahal and the children are running backwards
up a hill doing things that are just absolutely impossible,
and you know, it's it's fascinating. Some people will say,
oh gosh, it looks possessed. Oh my goodness that you know.
(09:26):
I don't know what it all is. I'm not a psychic.
I'm not an expert on these things. And people have
their assumptions about whatever. All I know is it's really
really fascinating and something's going on, plain and simple. Something's happening.
(09:47):
As a scholar I once knew says, you know, something's happening.
Whatever it is, it's worthy of us to lend our
eyeball in our minds too. And I have been learning
looking into these things myself, because it's like God spoke
(10:11):
right and people wrote it down, but for some reason
a lot of people think God's not talking as much
as he used to. And I think that's a mistake
to think that. I think there's a lot that's going
on in the world that's miraculous, you know, to put
it under a certain category or to funnel it under
(10:33):
one denomination, I don't think that's the case at all.
I think there's a lot of people who are just
not always congregating getting together under a church and say, hey,
this happened. I think there's a lot of mystical and
magical and miraculous events that if we paid more attention
(10:54):
to them, and if they got the media attention, people
would realize not everything's bad and negative out there. There's
some really tremendous things that show God is real. God
is around doing things. But then you know, a lot
of people are getting confused when it comes to hold it.
(11:17):
The government says, there's UFOs. I'm sorry, UAPs out there?
What are ups? Oh, well, let's redefine it. We're gonna
say they are things that we aren't flying. Perhaps there's
a private group of people flying them. We don't know
if they're aliens, but we suspect not, or maybe a
(11:38):
whole lot of answers in that right anomalous objects, no
aerial objects, they don't know. So knowing and hearing that,
and also hearing that the Vatican has said, you know,
we'd welcome our space brothers and sisters. It must confuse
(12:01):
a lot of people out there to wonder. Well, then
we're where does that bring our belief system to if
if we're actually saying something else is out there, if
we're actually acknowledging our brother or sister, our mother or
father saw something, we're to believe this, where is that?
(12:22):
Put our faith in God? Hold it? Where is God?
Is he floating in space? He on a ship somewhere?
Personally that those little details like that, I don't think
that matters so much faith. I think a lot of
people have realized that having faith kind of goes a
(12:44):
long way. Prayer goes a long way. We notice that
we feel it, and we also search for these things, right,
I mean, why are we searching because we think somehow
it connects to our meaning in life? Up. Well, you guys,
you're in for an interesting show today because this article
I'm going to read to you it's going to knock
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Welcome back. You are listening to Dark to comes like
with me, Lighty Hollis Anni iHeart Radio at Coach to
Coach AM Paranormal Podcast Network. As mentioned before the break,
I wanted to dive into the topic of what the
Vatican is up to lately, and how they're going to
(14:46):
be addressing some of the more mysterious elements in the
world that we tend to talk about here on this show.
And I find it fascinating. I mean, it is just fascinating,
and I've wondered how are people going to handle some
of these big questions out there in the world when
(15:07):
it comes to aliens. You know, shadow people, hat man. Okay,
we could throw that into the category of being demonic
and it fits right, But there's the alien element. And
I think though, and a lot of people speculated this
over the years when it comes to the alien aspect,
that perhaps they were, some were demonic, some were angelic.
(15:32):
The way that these things look and how they're described
in the Bible, they don't always sound very human, these angels.
So what are we saying? I don't know. It's kind
of fun to have a look and to think on it.
I don't think anybody has all the answers. I always say,
if somebody says they do, run run from them, far, far,
(15:53):
far away. But without further ado, I'm going to dive
into this. Oh well, there goes my computer to dive
on into this article. I swear as soon as I
said I'm going to dive into like everything went gobblygook
on my computer here just for a brief moment, but
to be expected, to be expected, I have some odd
(16:15):
things that like to get excited around me. So anyways,
here we go. So this article this comes to us
from the Dailymail dot com. All right, and the title says,
Vatican Academy will pro mystical phenomena around the world, including
(16:37):
weeping statues of Mary, stigmata and ghost sightings, under plans
to set up new observatory new observatory guys, and the
subtitle reads Pontifical Marianna International Academy says there are of
(17:00):
cases to probe and the Holy See Institution hopes to
uncover phenomena like weeping statues of Mary. There are several
examples of Virgin Mary statues weeping blood or tears. Actually,
that's a phenomena that I've looked into as well and
(17:21):
was amazed, amazed at some of the findings. A long
time ago, there was an episode called Signs from God
and what they did was put science to test faith,
and I think that was the subtitle of the show
something like that. So It was fascinating to me that
(17:44):
was some time ago that that show came out and
they were able to prove there was a mystery going on.
I mean, they did an MRI scan on a statue
that was producing tears, and they tested the tears, and
then there was blood coming out of another one and
they tested the blood. And it's just fascinating. You can
find actually that that program is on YouTube, I believe
(18:08):
somewhere scattered. But yeah, I mean so there's a lot
of different things out there like that. All right, So continuing,
but I'm curious about what's going on today, all right.
A Vatican academy is set to investigate quote, mystical phenomena
around the world, including weeping statues of the Virgin Mary,
(18:30):
stigmata and ghost sightings. Did you hear it? Ghost sightings
under plans for a new dedicated observatory, the Pontifical Marina.
I don't know if they say Marianna International Academy. In
(18:50):
other words, Pa M I Pammy, which describes itself as
a scientific institution of the Holy See, will hope to
uncover around a hundred ongoing phenomena in Italy alone. The
specialist Observatory which is still awaiting authenticity by the Church,
(19:11):
will quote evaluate and study apparitions and mystical phenomena across
the globe. The Vatican News reports it will delve into
ghost sightings, interior locutions and stigmata locutions that's with a you, okay,
(19:37):
which believers see as bodily marks, scars or pains corresponding
to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ. On the launch
of the new Observatory Scientific Committee, Marriologists, father Gianne Matteo
Roggio told local Italian media. Yeah, quote in Italy, there
(20:02):
are around a hundred ongoing phenomena that the church is
following closely. Now. From what I've read and been looking into,
this is what the church does. I mean back in
way back in the times, like if you did something
that was blasphemous against the what the church thought was
(20:24):
correct in the eyes of God or the Bible. I mean,
things happened, right, there were trials, there were which hunts,
as they say, and just a lot of a lot
of a lot of turmoil. If people were thought to
be offending God. So things and people being investigated, that's
not new. Putting it under this, guys, of you know, observing, learning,
(20:53):
seeing what's going on in the world, looking for the miracles.
It's like it's like a miracle team they're looking for
all over the world. And I am curious. I don't
see anything that says only if you happen to be Catholic.
I don't see that saying here. But so the next
section of this it has a couple of images of
(21:17):
statuettes of Mary with blood obviously blood coming down or
drying on their face, and it says it's kind of
repeating miscal phenomena around the world. And this show's pictured
crying statues of the Virgin Mary weeps tears of blood
(21:37):
for the thirty eighth time in Argentina. So they're showing
this one on the left, and that was in twenty eighteen,
while another Madonna is said to have done the same
in Italy in recent years. And this one's on the right. Interesting,
And now they're showing another photo here, Okay, Saint Peter's Square,
(21:58):
All right, moving on this is many of these are
local and restricted in scope. Not all of them receive
attention from the media in the general public scene. Sometimes
people just you know, they don't put it out there
for reasons I understand. And the new Observatory Committee, which
(22:20):
will begin its first session on Saturday, had been keeping
its eye on a curious case involving a weeping Mary
statue in Treviano Trevinano, near Rome. Okay, it involved an
Italian woman facing an investigation for fraud after claiming her
(22:47):
virgin Mary statue could cry tears of blood and multiplying
Nachi and Pizza really really flocked to see Gizella's cardidias
cardias predictions. I'm terrible with names, sorry, predictions. After her
(23:08):
statue of our Lady Treviano Romano began weeping blood, followers
believe she brought messages from Mary, and some said she'd
even predicted the COVID pandemic. However, church investigators recently discovered
(23:30):
the blood which her statue wept was not holy and
actually came from a pig, according to local media. Okay,
hold on, you know, Okay, this is the Daily Mail
I'm reading from, all right, So of course I got
to show the skeptical element and side to this per us. Right.
(23:55):
It's like even when it comes to like the UFO
phenomena or Bigfoot phenomena or anything, it's kind of mysterious.
Oh well, here's the perspective of somebody who doesn't believe
in anything. Let's put that question in your mind before
we'll think miracle, right, I mean, that's just it's common practice.
(24:18):
But also considering the source, this is the story that
they throw up first, versus one that might actually prove
something that's in the positive. You know, I don't, I
don't know. I don't. I don't understand the tactic. I
personally would like to hear, Oh a miracle happened here first, like, oh,
this is really intriguing instead of skeptical, I'm gonna put
(24:40):
my frown face on and stop my feet out of
the room. Uh, you know, I don't get that. I
don't get that. But this is this is a shame.
So we're talking about miracles and we got somebody that
defrauded the topic. But you're like, well why and how
how does that benefit them? Let's continue to read. You know,
(25:04):
it's always going to be something right, all right? Oh
this is so wrong. This is so wrong. Officials believe
the woman Gazella Cardias, has now fled after fleecing her
followers with tens of thousands of euros and donations. Oh man,
(25:31):
this is not the first time that church officials have
decided to probe weeping Virgin Mary statues. Now, I know
that this topic has been investigated by the church and
by others for some time. Oh man. So here they're
showing the lady. There's a picture of her with a
giant statue of Mary. It's the size of a grown
(25:53):
woman in a glass case with flowers.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
All around it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
So it says she has been exposed as a fraud
after church investigators discovered the blood was weeping pig blood.
That's terrible. Wow, let's say about that. That's that's that's
really a shame. So but anyways, we got more here
to read on this story, and it's it's fascinating, it real,
(26:21):
it really is, because it's like I'm curious to hear
more and how the church is tackling these topics. All right,
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Speaker 3 (27:36):
Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with
me Idy Hollis Honey iHeartRadio at Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, I was just
diving into this lovely article regarding the mysteries and the
mystical that are being tackled by the Vatican with a
(27:59):
new an academic approach, you could call it. And I
was just diving into this little part right here, right
underneath this photo of this woman they just found defrauded
a lot of people regarding donations that were made to
(28:20):
her statue that was weeping and making predictions about a
lot of things, and you know, people like to believe
in the mysteries, right, especially when it comes to something
that might be holy. So it's like, do you knock
(28:40):
the people for having the belief that they did to
come and check it out, because miracles like this haven't
been known to happen. Like I said the show that
I'd watched signs from God and how science is testing
faith and it was proven to be unexplainable. So hey,
I get it all right. So continuing this article, back
(29:02):
in twenty eighteen, a New Mexico church found a madonna
which was leaking olive oil, sparking excitement that there was
a supernatural force behind it. Now, Bishop Oscar Kantu of
Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church in Hobbes, US so
(29:24):
the church would determine whether or not the sign was
a good one or an evil one. Oh that's interesting. Hmm.
So that's interesting. I'm just thinking about if you saw
a statue weeping oil, it could be a bad sign
as well. I have never heard that to be an
(29:46):
evil sign. Huh, all right. Continuing later that year, another
Virgin Mary, this time in Argentina, was seen weeping tears
of blood for what was reputed to be the thirteenth time.
And let me tell you, this looks like coagulated blood
and stuff. It's kind of ooh, it's hard. It's hard
(30:08):
to see. But they're doing this like close up, like
this active video is underneath what I'm reading. Just to
tell you this an active video that's moving and zooming
into coagulated blood just pouring out of the eyes of
this statue. And I mean it's really thick. Uh So,
all right, continuing, The statue of the Virgin of the
(30:32):
Mystic Rose has been linked to several quote miracles, such
as a woman who had a three inch tumor which
reportedly disappeared after she visited it. Now, one thing I
got to tell you when it comes to reported miracles
like that, I don't think anybody's more tough than the
(30:53):
Vatican and investigating such things. So if they're on the case,
it's going to be really clarified to prove that miracle
that was claimed, all right, because they do that for
people like this is so I feel it's this is
so weird for me. Okay, I'm just like stuttering over
this because I didn't understand the topic of quote saints. Okay,
(31:19):
I wasn't raised Catholic, and I'm like, well, what do
you mean? What is this whole saint process? And so
I looked into it and it's like, Oh, they really
dig in, They really dig in to make sure that
somebody is doing something that is said. And I just
very very deep investigational stuff because the scholar that I
(31:42):
once knew said this is done that way, and I'm like, what,
That's a whole other world I never knew existed, all right.
Continuing a year prior, Catholic miracle investigators studied a Virgin
Mary and Poco in southwestern Mexico and which began to
(32:06):
shed tears in front of its owners. The saint was
a Mexican version of the Virgin Mary, nicknamed La marient
Maurita Morinita, or the Brunettes. That's what it means. Followers
were astonished when images and videos surfaced of tears seemingly
(32:29):
streaming down its cheeks and other incidents deemed to be supernatural,
and Archdiocese in Connecticut, US, United States, stunned followers last month.
Oh this is recent, just last month, when he claimed
a parishioner witnessed the number of wafers he was handing
(32:52):
out for communion. Multiply watch them multiply eucharistic miracles. That's
what I've learned is the name of such things. Apparently
that is a really big deal too, because I mean,
what did Jesus do with the bread and the fish
(33:13):
when they had so many people to feed and he
made those multiply. So there's a lot of people that
claim these things as well. So interesting, They're going to
look into this. So Pammy Pami's new Observatory is also
set to introduce local scientific committees in order to create
(33:34):
a larger network for more probes. Think about that. So
it's not going to just be based in the Vatican,
like that'll be the headquarters, but they're going to have
these committees going around looking for people and items and claims.
(34:01):
I'm curious about the ghost element, aren't you? Oh? Look
at this They're they're showing this statue. It almost looks
like a bronze statue of Mary with tears coming down.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
HM.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Back in twenty eighteen, it says underneath it new Mexico.
This is the New Mexico. One church found a madonna
which was leaking olive oil. This is the olive oil
one oh wow, huh. All right, and then they have
the other one that's showing tears. This one looks more
like a ceramic surface. Mary. Okay, interesting, But think about this, guys.
(34:40):
This is a committee. I mean, these are committees that
are going to be established all over so they'll be
under the Vatican's orders. Hey, go take a look over there.
But they said ghosts as well ghosts. So there's a
(35:01):
lot of ghosts out there. So are we gonna have
Vatican ghost hunters? Well, that'd be interesting. They want to
look at the miracle of that.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Okay, when I think ghosts, I think disgruntled spirits. Okay,
spirits are different though. That's somebody coming to visit you,
to say, hey, it's your uncle, I'm doing good, how
are you that type of thing. And they might not
just linger around and rattle things. Ghosts I find to
be of no relation. They happen to be there. They
(35:36):
might give you a shove, they might mess up things.
They're not your friends. So this topic that they're talking
about here is weeping statues, right of Mary, And you know,
I didn't see them mention Jesus' statues, But I don't
know if that's as much of a phenomenon or not.
(35:57):
That's not interesting, it's usually mary huh hmm. I'm not sure.
I'm not an expert. I've just been looking into this
stuff because it's like it's like a whole other paranormal mystery.
For me, I'm like, what what you guys have names
for this? This is? This is wild? And you've had
(36:17):
this for how long you've known about these things? Like
it's it's amazing to me. I feel like a kid
in a candy shop learning some of this stuff. Not kidding,
not kidding, it really is Uh, it's just kind of wow.
But think about this, the ghost element, how does that
(36:39):
relate to Vatican and religious thought? Yeah? Yeah, I know,
you know the Disciples of Jesus saw him walking on
the water and they thought it was a ghost. And
that's the only place they mentioned a ghost. Maybe not,
but what ghosts? So there's gonna be committees to go
(37:00):
out and observe and see if there really are ghosts. Huh.
Now that is interesting. I mean who will they be
pulling together for that. Your local professor or your local
ghost hunter. Are they gonna come with equipment to say
(37:22):
there's something here? Or does the Vatican group. Do they
have something that we don't know? Now? I don't know.
I think I've mentioned here on this program that there
are really super high tech EVP machines out there, Okay,
more than what you think ordained, created, constructed by various governments.
(37:48):
If your local ghost hunter has an EVP ability just
putting your recorder out to the world me some people
at were a lot stronger around by the way, So
that's why I say ability. But it's like, and they're
able to actually pull voices from the air. Our government
(38:12):
has a machine that does that really well. So you
see them walking around with a microphone with a headset
on like they do in the movies. Yeah, they're listening.
They're listening. They realize that there's energy in the air
that can respond in this little bit of different dimension
that must be lingering above ours. You know, it's like,
(38:34):
where is that coming from? Where is that disembodied voice
coming from? Disembodied nobody voice? Where's it coming from? So
are they gonna enlist really cool technology? I really want
to know. I would love to be part of a
committee or actually be considered somebody local to resort to,
(38:57):
Like Heidi, do you have any interesting cases. Yes, I do, Yes,
I do. Would you like to use my resources? Because
I would? Look, can I go with you to check
it out as well? I mean I think it'd be
fast set to nating, fascinating. Yeah, and this is gonna
go on Saturday for their first meeting. I have a
(39:21):
feeling I know some of these people are going to
be on those discussions. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I think so.
I think so. I think we'll all be surprised. Stay here,
all right, you guys, there's more to this story. I
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Speaker 3 (41:09):
Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Like with me,
Randy Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to COASTDA Paranormal
Podcast Network. Oh, this is such an interesting conversation that
we're having here today. I am talking to myself, but
I'm really talking to you right because I'm sure everybody's
(41:33):
got their eyebrows raids going woww we're going there. I
wish that they would also open us up to UFO
pen on that and what it is that people are
reporting with some of these beings in being positive speaking
of God or Jesus and some of them just being
(41:53):
outright evil and demonic, okay, and connecting those dots. Why
close limit it? Right, I'm just I'm gonna dream big lockness.
I don't think that would fit in there. But from
what I was told, what NeSSI is? Maybe? All right? Oh,
I should say from my book The Secret War, I
(42:16):
was told that perhaps those creatures are actually the beast
written of in the Bible that will rise from the sea.
But there's more than one, all right. There's a lot
of lakes and bodies of water around the world that
claims lake monsters and they just can't seem to find them.
(42:38):
Does that happen? Perhaps because they are mystical, not just
mythical creatures, and they're fluctuating in and out, and they'll
come to stand fully above the water when things change here.
But who knows? All right? So continuing this article, it
says a Father Stefano Teach, part of the committee, explained
(43:03):
the purpose of the Observatory is to activate national and
international commissions to evaluate and study apparitions and mystical phenomena
reported in various areas of the world. So right there, Well, okay,
(43:26):
they are kind of narrowing it down apparitions. I'm thinking, Marion,
mystical phenomena. I'm finding that that word. I didn't know,
but it's kind of attributed closely to Catholicism and some
of the belief system mystical, supernatural, that word too, That
(43:47):
word also gets used a lot. I swear to you,
I feel like I've been snoozing. I'm like, I just
did not know that there was this whole understanding out there,
and not surely within the church. I mean, you know,
I swear if I think a lot of Protestants out
(44:07):
there can agree that, you know, we're just kind of
more casual, more laid back, and just like, oh, here
we go, or talking about God Jesus, here's the Bible.
Oh and here's some lessons for you. And it's not like,
by the way, do you know what the Catholics believe. No,
we didn't know. I just thought, oh, they're Christian too,
(44:28):
they're all into the same things we are, and they are,
but they have these older understandings that have tradition and
things that we're just that familiar with. So and I
surely didn't. I mean, I had so much else going
on in my life. I just didn't stop to go
go read about them again. I thought they're pretty much
(44:49):
like us, you know, similar, but different with the beliefs
and these additions with saints and miracle huntings and relics,
and boy, the relic thing, that's really different. I did
not know till I went to the Vatican. I did
not know why there were people in glass cases. I
(45:13):
had no idea. What's that? Oh gosh, what is that called? People?
Their bodies who are thought to not deteriorate, incorruptibles, that's
what they call them. So and I mean like people
that get buried, and they check them every so often, like, Wow,
(45:33):
they're not decomposing. Something miraculous is going on here, which
is I mean, what how are they not decomposing?
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Some have And the glass cases that I saw, some
of them didn't look so great. I'll just be honest.
Some of them didn't look so great. Others did. And
it is puzzling if truly these things have been tested
and proven to be one percent those are people. That's
(46:05):
that is wild? How's that happen? So I get it
having a look at these things. There's a lot of
things I don't understand. I'll be honest, I don't understand
it all, you know, But I do my best not
to judge people for what they believe to be true
for themselves. Who am I to go around and say
bad you? You know, we're all here on this planet
(46:28):
looking for some answers and learning as we go along. Right, Okay,
so I want to continue this story, uh, he added.
It will promote updating and training activities on this type
of events, and they're multiple spiritual and cultural meanings. Promote
(46:48):
high dissemination and consultancy activities, especially at the service of
local churches and bishops, but also transdisciplinary research activities in
concert with academic institutions both lay and ecclesiastical, and the
(47:11):
publication of the results of the researches carried out. Did
you get all of that? They want to open it up, guys.
They want to say, hey, what is the meaning here
and doesn't have something to do with the area in
(47:31):
particular culturally meaning and actually report on it and say, hey,
there's a miracle over here. Now in looking at the church,
the Catholic Church, and how they do create a stir
when they say, hey, this is real and people come
(47:54):
to see and it builds up the faith of people,
does it not? I mean, if you're looking at a
miracle that was absolutely studied by especially your local academics
and say, look, I have no answers. That's a big
whooptie do. That's a huge whoopedie doo. I like that word.
(48:19):
That is right, And I'm all about building up faith,
all right. I'm because I think it's absolutely necessary, especially
working around the demonic things I've named shadow people and
the hat Man phenomenon. So faith is good. I mean,
these dark things are placing their bets on us not
to figure them out or have that I don't know
(48:41):
Jesus to call on. All right, So continuing on here,
all right? Where was I? Oh? No? Okay? Fellow committee
member Father Raggio Rosio has previously spoken on topic of
mystical phenomena, notably in twenty twenty one when he revealed
that demand for exorcisms boomed during the pandemic. It sure did,
(49:06):
the Catholic priest told the Telegraph at the time, we
have seen an increase in the request for exorcisms because
the pandemic has made people more vulnerable to the idea
that Satan or some evil entity has taken over their lives. Hmm,
hat man, you guys not kidding. Hat Man stories went
(49:28):
through the roof, absolutely through the roof. Oh guess what, guys,
this is fascinating. You wouldn't believe what just happened out
of nowhere. I'm sitting here reading this article to you,
and it absolutely disappeared and said, oop, this this article
is no longer available. I had to click reload. That
(49:52):
was really weird. I've never kind of made me kind
of jump, and I don't jump very often from things.
Things don't scare me. That's just like woo, where to go?
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
That was bizarre. All right. Yeah, so hat Man, I
said hat Man on that disappeared. He was a big
problem shadow people. I mean, people were in a funk.
They were sick, They're losing their jobs, they were losing
their livelihoods. Yeah, it attracted a lot of darkness and yeah,
it was real. It was horrible, absolutely horrible. So yeah,
(50:27):
it reared its ugly head and just crazy. All right.
To continue and to conclude this story, people have fallen
into poverty. They found themselves suffering from anxiety and depression.
They feel that their lives are no longer in their
own hands, but in the hands of a malign force.
(50:48):
It's a big crisis. He was speaking at a six
day international conference where more than one hundred priests and
bishops from around the world gather in Rome to attend
the world's only recognized course in exorcism. Amazing, amazing. So
(51:12):
the mystical events are all going to go underneath this
new observatory of sorts. How does that make you feel
out there? I really want to know. I'm excited because
they're saying they're going to open up the whole conversation
(51:34):
to us. This is going to be available for all
of us to take a look at. I'm curious if
they're going to involve those who are not Catholic or
is this only fall under those who are involved in
those churches? Cause again, I like to look at what
we have more in common than our differences. You're Christian,
me too? All right, cool, let's all be in the
(51:56):
same party and let's have a conversation. Like if I
see something, can I just report it to them? I
definitely see the hand being played here to involve people
to see the miracles of God, because I think definitely
our eyeballs get limited or we don't see and a
(52:17):
lot of people don't talk about what is they've experienced
in Yeah, faith, Wayne's the miracles that wakes people up.
All right, you guys, I hope you enjoyed today's show
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