Episode 126: Ancient Insight

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a little bit different because I got a special guest today.

(01:45):
So I'm going to jump right on into this interview
with Melissa Tittle, who is an investigative journalist in ancient civilizations,
sci fi, and the science fields. But she also produces
content with some of the biggest names in that space
and and TV shows for several major networks. So I'd
like to welcome Melissa Tittle to the show. It's so

(02:07):
great to have you on here. How are you doing good?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
So awesome to be here. I'd love Coast to coast.
We were talking before we started recording Girl Power.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah yes, oh man man, I mean it's really refreshing
in all honesty, and you know, statistically speaking, whenever I
look at the numbers of who listens to these types
of radio shows, it's mostly women. So heck, yes, we
got to represent.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, there's not enough of us, no no.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
So i'man kudos to you and you are crazy busy
but I don't think I've ever seen I mean, somebody
just have their hands with so many different arenas and
I'm absolutely impressed, and I'm like, I have got to
talk to this lady. I've gotta talk to her.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
And I actually had a dream I was supposed to
reach out to you. Now that was weird.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Wow, okay, I want to know about that.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
That was weird. Well I have to tell you later, okay,
But yeah, it was crazy. I was like, okay, you know,
I'm like, I'll reach out to her. So, yeah, this
is really as humbling and it's an honored heavy on
the program. I always like to get into what got
somebody to look into such a topic. I mean, you're
an investigative journalist into ancient civilizations, so how how did

(03:26):
this come to be?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I have been interested in anything that was unsolvable mysterious,
I'd say, even ancient ancient Egyptian stuff since I was
like five or six. You know, like that you know
that thing where you go and someone tells you how
to pass life. Like my mom caught me writing what
now I would say our higher glyphs like on the wall,

(03:49):
and I was like seven or eight years old. What
we don't know what that means, so we're just gonna
not put that on the wall.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
So there's just like a part of me that always
knew that whatever I was experiencing and what the adults
were experiencing and what was around me wasn't all that
was there. And it's so just always anything that I
could get my hands on, whether it was a book
or it was a movie, or somebody was really interesting
that was talking about something, I was into it because

(04:19):
I just knew that there was something beyond what was happening.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's amazing. And so you're weirder than I thought.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's awesome, half weird card.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yes, you know, it's like you know, that just makes
me feel even more like a soul sister. This is awesome,
I'm thinking this. So I mean, but when people, I mean,
as a child, especially when you go treading off into
these corners that are not really popular, parents do get
freaked out. They do try to correct you. I know,
I get the emails from children even and parents who

(04:52):
are just befuddled on what the heck to do. I mean,
how did your parents, what did they do? Did they
try to nurture or push you away from I mean,
what was that process.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
We had a pretty open We had pretty open conversations
about all sorts of stuff. I think my parents are
really interested in seeing how we thought about life. We
would talk about weird stuff all the time. Yeah, you know,
I grew up in a household where we did go
to church, so we were considered Christian, but my parents
from an early age taught us about every religion. And

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so when I left the house I went to college,
I was weirded out that, like people were in these
camps of only believing in this one way of doing things,
because it was odd to me because because I learned
so much about other people's stuff that I was so
befuddled on the idea that people get trapped in their
own tiny little belief systems. So talking about aliens and ghosts,

(05:44):
this was like a normal conversation around the dinner table.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Oh you're lucky, man, you were so lucky, because that
is not the experience. I mean, you know that it's
not the experience.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, no, it's definitely not normal.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
My mom was definitely a little bit more reserved, and
that wasn't really her favorite conversation. But my dad was
in the air Force and it was his favorite conversation.
He yeah, he didn't necessarily have any experiences while he served,
but my grandfather did. In fact, the day that, oh

(06:19):
my god, I'm going to forget the name of the
base and I can't believe I'm forgetting the day that
my dad was born. I think it was on McKinley
Air Force Base, which was in Washington, the state of Washington.
There was a UFO sighting, like if they saved the
newspaper of like it was nineteen fifty two.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
So yeah, so that's like we talked about that stuff
in my family and it was it was just just
was normal, I guess.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
But now you know the pattern because I've heard this
pattern when it comes to kids of military guys. My
dad was Air Force as well. And it's like, oh,
I don't think this is a coincidence that you happen
to look into these topics. I mean, you know that connection.
So do you think that's just you know, happenstance or what.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
It could be. I mean, I've definitely covered a lot
of stories. There is a pattern with the Air Force
being more tied to these extraterrestrial experiences and families and
definitely generations of alien contact within Air Force families. Yeah, yes,
I've definitely covered a lot of that. I try not

(07:24):
to make it personal. I have not personally had an
alien experience. I've never seen a craft. I definitely feel
a lot of things and I sense things, but I
haven't necessarily had the experience that I interview people on,
which is you know, they're coming to them at night
and taking them and abducting them and communicating with them

(07:47):
that way. I haven't had those experiences, but I've definitely
had a lot of supernatural experiences kind of navigating the
unseen world.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh oh oh, so we do have to go there?
You know that now, Melissa, Right, you cannot just drop
that little hoppotato and just say, oh, yeah, so that happened. No,
let's go there. So what on earth? What did you experience?
Like what took place?

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I mean, it's just not as sexy as having physical
evidence within this third dimensional reality. I saw something, something,
something did this, or it's just that I have been places,
or I'll get visions about things and I can see,
I can see, I can see what's happening there on

(08:36):
another existence, But it's not that I can it's not
like I can see when people say I can see
they're referring to, and what we're thinking in our head
is that they physically saw something come into the room
and do something. I can sense it so much that
it makes me uncomfortable. But being a journalist, I don't

(09:01):
necessarily want to call it a name or a thing
or is it bad? Is it good? What does it
feel like? Is it a demon to come from this
race or this alien race? Like? I just have had
so many of those experiences that I just know that
there's something beyond this plane of existence.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, a lot of things. Yeah, there's something that connects
us to be able to have these types of experiences.
I mean it, it just makes sense. I mean, you know,
how are people being able to be trained and like
remote viewing unless there's something we can tap into, right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:38):
I mean for me most of because obviously I love
going to ancient sites. I really go into it there.
If I walk into someone's house or I'm at a place,
I actually don't want to interact with whatever's there. The
only thing I want is out. I'm trying to exist
in this third dimensional reality. But when I go to
some of these ancient sites. I really want to know

(10:01):
because I'm there to know that takes me down a
rabbit hole. I had a really crazy experience in a
temple in Egypt, actually where I was actually on a
trip with Graham Hancock. We were doing a scout for
a TV show. I was there with his wife, and
we had a guide with us. We had an archaeologist,

(10:24):
Egyptian archaeologist with us, and we were going to the
Temple of Gendera Hathor's temple, and I'd been wanting to
go there. This is several years ago. I've been wanting
to go there forever since I can remember. I had
been like picturing those walls, the beautiful walls and all
the paintings and everything, so we can get there. It's August.
It's hot as balls. It's just it's just awful, like

(10:47):
awful hot. It's beyond and I don't even care. I'm
so super excited. And I you know, we were we
were doing a walk through of what you know, we
wanted to shoot with grim but I really needed some
time alone because I wanted to go off and kind
of just you know, it's it's a big temple, but

(11:08):
it's not that big it's got a Holy of Holies
in the middle, if anybody's been there, and it's got
thirteen rooms around it, and it's big, but it's not
like massive. It's you can find someone in a second,
you know, And it's also echoes you can just scream
their name. So here, I was walking around by myself
in the thirteen rooms, and they all look the same

(11:28):
if you can't read higher glyphs, and I can't necessarily
read higherg glyphs. So but one room just drew me in.
So I went into that room. You know, I just
think I've been gone for like ten minutes maybe walking around,
you know, and something made me drawn to this one

(11:49):
part of a wall in that room, and I put
my hands above my head in this spot on the wall,
and then I put my forehead in between it. And
when that happened, I felt every single emotion human emotion
at the same time, like love, hate, sadness, joy, like shu,

(12:11):
you know, like every think of every emotion at once.
Like it was so intense, and I like took my
head off and I was like, oh my god, what
is that?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (12:21):
And just at that moment in time, the argall just
came in and he saw me and he was like, hey,
where have you been? And I'm like, oh, I was
just walking around, you know, no big deal. He's like,
you've been gone for two hours.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Whoa?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
And I was like what And they're like, we've been
yelling your name and like I said, one, there's no
there's hardly anybody in the temple because it's super hot,
it's August. It's not like there's that many people at
that moment of time. It's not that big. So I
don't know where I went.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
But I don't time he said.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
He said, do you can you read how books? And
I said no, and he's like deep, it's says here,
what's your hands here to receive the goddess?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh oh, hold on. We got to stop it right
there because we got to get to our next break.
You guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with
Me Heidi Hollis on the iHeart Radio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back. You are listening

(13:35):
to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the
iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
So I have Melissa Tiddle and my goodness, this is incredible.
You had the experience of a lifetime. It sounds like
where you It's almost like you transported. I mean, please
do finish the story. You're inside of this temple in Egypt,

(13:59):
and you thought you were going for just ten minutes
and you're gone for two hours.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Yeah, missing time, so number one missing time, some weird
download and everything was fine, except I was kind of
blown away by that experience. So about two of this
kept happening for about two weeks. After this experience, I
left Egypt. I came back home, and I was having
dreams about the temple. It was so real like, and

(14:24):
in my dream I would stare at one part of
the wall like obsess about it until I would know
all the symbols, and I would call the archaeologists. I'm like, okay,
there's this corner and then it has this and it
was there and I'm like where is it And he's like, okay,
it's in this room, and I'm like, what does it say?
And I would be in the middle of like a meeting,
and I would have all that that feeling of all

(14:46):
that energy come through my body just randomly. And it
happened for about two weeks after and then it kind
of faded away, probably because I'm in a whole different
receiving mode, if you will. I'm back into my normal
human reality in Egypt, you know, open mindedly diving into
some of this deeper stuff. So that stayed with me

(15:07):
because that really set me on the path of this
movie that I just finished, which is called Code twelve,
which is a kind of understanding that there is there's
several codes on this planet, and I think that there's
one that allows us to leave this current existence. That

(15:29):
doesn't mean go to another planet, that means kind of
be able to escape the trap the suffering that we have.
And so yeah, that just set me out of a journey.
I just was like the.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Hieroglyph said something along those lines too, You're saying, yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
There's I mean, just to get a little precursor about
the movie, there's the explanation of the matrix and the simulation,
and we do talk about that. We do have a
lot of mathematical codes and stuff that we bring up
that I think that are different that I haven't seen.
I've been writing about this stuff for a long time,
so I do know the stuff that people have been
saying for the last couple of years and the last
ten years. But I also think that there is something

(16:08):
that has overlooked and that that there's another frequency existing
at the same time that if you tap into it,
you can Actually I'm trying to use my words correctly
because I'm sure people that are into their spiritual journey.
I don't want to offend anybody on whatever, wherever they're

(16:29):
at or whatever they're doing. But it's almost as if
you can stay where you are but tap into something
so divine that takes you out of the simulation completely
without you ever leaving your moment in time. It's just
that your spirit is somewhere else, but your body and

(16:50):
your existence and the people around you or whatever's happening
is still there. It's just you're experiencing something on a
completely different level. And I think that spiritual texts and
these ancient codes and these temples, whether they're in Egypt
or all over the world, they have this understanding and

(17:11):
it's beyond speaking to the gods. It's it's learning how
to become one in that frequency.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Oh, that's fascinating. And do you think that that's what
happens when people cross over? They leave this husk of
a body behind and they just tap into the everything.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
I mean, yeah, I mean I don't know for certain,
but I can say that based on the evidence that
people have had near death experiences and.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Definitely, you know, the thing is, I can't say for
certain anything, but what I can say as a journalist
is that I try to gather patterns of In this instance,
I'm comparing all different ancient texts and their belief in
belief in the afterlife or something higher or gods and
goddesses or any of that. And I think that that

(18:04):
that a term everything is nothing and nothing is everything
is really what they're trying to show us is that
everything around you is real, but then it's not. And
and that's what is so expansive about the universe.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
And it's we get caught in it being everything or nothing,
where it's it's the same at this it's happening at
the same time. That's it's complicated, but but it's really
how quantum physics works. It's it's how the universe propagates itself.
It's it's just that we get wrapped up in our

(18:40):
emotional bodies in this existence and me being a human,
I'm saying that and being a hypocrite at the same time.
Of course I do that because we're here to experience stuff.
But at any moment in time, we can tap into
the vastness of the universe because we are that.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, not that absolutely makes sense. It's like a part
of the whole. I mean, there's uh. I think that
even when it comes to our differences, we should be
dropping those and look more to what we have in common,
you know, and and open up the floodgates of love
because it does connect us and you know, can you
getting into the more spiritual elements. It's it's absolutely important

(19:23):
if we are to reach the next level. Like you know,
you have looked into so many different things, and you're
so aware of so many different topics and have met
some of the biggest names and these odd fields. I mean, yeah,
it's fun. Do you do you see or hear or

(19:43):
feel a consistent vibe where everybody's aiming for.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
I mean no, I think it changes. It's weird. It's
it's it's like the like the morphogenic field either gets
dropped in with something new everybody has to focus on
or and then for a while everybody's directing that they're
like putting that out there, you know, talking about this stuff.

(20:09):
I mean, I mean the idea of the simulation. The
matrix seemed this whole concept seems to be heating up,
like it's just like this this thing that just everyone
The matrix was just the name of a movie and
then it became a thing. But I think that I
always I always think when everybody's looking in one direction,

(20:31):
which is important, who are the randoms looking in a
different direction? I want to know what they're looking at.
I don't even care how crazy it is. So I
had a question somebody asked me on a panel once.
They said, well, how do you know if someone's telling
the truth? And I'm like, well, how do you know
anybody's telling the truth? No one really knows the truth.

(20:54):
They only know pieces of it. So what part of
that person's story is is has a has a has
a piece of like the bigger truth which we're all
trying to figure out. And so for me, it doesn't
matter how crazy the story is. There's there's something in
that story that there's a nugget that connects all the
other stories. So I don't know. I like every time

(21:17):
that there's like one direction everyone's looking like everyone's waiting
for the Pentagon to drop these you know, they're going
to come and say Aliens are real. I'm like, Okay,
who are the five people saying? Something else is happening?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's where you're looking, that's where you're going. Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah yeah, what else is going on over there? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, we're in a Google universe too. It's like, if
there's a topic of the day, it seems to be
reflected in the television programs, and you know, it's the
same rehash stories over and over again. I'm like, my goodness.
You know, I ran a UFO group for fifteen years,
and I mean in one one meeting, I think I
had more conversation and more interesting topics. And what I

(21:59):
see in some of these programs these.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Days, yeah, yeah, they just can't get over Uh you know,
there's there's I mean, it's changing, you know, I can
say from a mainstream as a mainstream producer, I've produced
for almost every major network before I became to Gaya
as head of Content. I'm no longer there, but and

(22:25):
you know, even Ancient Aliens was like a risk. That
show the first season which I was involved in was
six episodes, that's all they would green light. It was
a total risk because there was not one show like
that that was coming out and saying, you know it,
you know, it's Aliens and all this rich stuff happened,

(22:49):
it's Aliens, and but that but that it was odd
that that, you know, that executive at the History Channel
took a big risk and the Six Steps did so well.
They just green light the greenlit another thirteen and then
they just never ended. We're like, there's a season twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Now.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I left after season five, but so that was like
the only thing and that was the only show in
the game, right, But but now you have like even
I was surprised of the show that they asked me
to host or co host UFO Witness. I was surprised
on the amount of topics we covered. We covered like
alien races. I mean that's stuff that like Gaya does.

(23:28):
But but I mean the producers I love them, they're awesome,
but they didn't necessarily not in the space so they
were they came up with all these things about like
what all the races were doing. You know, they're like
Syrians fly triangle ships and like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
oh man, you know because they because in their minds,

(23:49):
the beans have to have their own ship, you know,
like the circular ones. And I'm like, no, that's just
you're totally making that up like that. There's no one
in the space that believes that.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
You know, so you you were you were there to
make sure that what you understood in the arena to
be factual. I mean, because there's there's a lot of
us out here who are very aware and very keen
to who's experiencing what and why and what the beings
look like. So that's awesome that you stood there at

(24:17):
the gates and said, no, it goes this way.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I mean, I couldn't stop all of the uh you know,
writing because it wasn't I wasn't producing the show, you know,
it was talent but on camera, but the but I
was surprised. Like we did experiments with a guy who
who said that he could he was able to be
in contact with an alien ship that he had an

(24:42):
experience with, and he could in his mind he could
get there, he could be back in the ship he was.
He was getting communication with him, and we hooked him
up to all these electrodes and everything, and I thought,
oh my god, this is so great. This is main
stream TV.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
So I think there's it's definitely changing. But but I
did a talk on this at Roswell the Roswell New
Mexico Festival and I and I said, you know, everyone
wants to know who's like, what's the agenda? And the
thing is is like, there's not just one agenda. You
have to with what's keeping the most of your attention?
Is it fear? Is it because you want the truth?

(25:19):
Is it because you're curious? You know, all of that
drives money in the system, So you're if you're if
if then the entertainment if people want to blame the
entertainment industry, but they're feeding off of people wanting to
feel something when they watch an alien show.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Now that so we got to get to our next break.
You guys, you are listening to Darkly Comes Light with
me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast.
I am there are a normal podcast network. We'll be
right back. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes

(26:09):
Light with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeart Radio and
Coast to coast, AM, you're a normal podcast network. We
are having a girlfriend chat here with Melissa Tittle and
there's no slowing us down. I mean, my goodness. I
love the fact that again you ancient aliens. I mean,

(26:30):
like that is literally history. I mean that's like historic
stuff right there. And you're the first, I mean the beginning.
And I'm from the start, so I didn't know you
started from the start like that. That's that's amazing. I
knew you were a part of it. But hot doc,
So I mean, when you're you're diving into these things,

(26:52):
you know, I think it's uh, it's fantastic that you
had that backing that you did first coming up as
a kid and then you know, going professionally into this
stuff without baton and I like, I got this. Oh,
I know we're going. I mean, I think that's half
the battle in getting a really good show is having

(27:12):
somebody like you, and that's rare those people that have
the interest. But like you were born for this.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
And all this weirdness. I was like, Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
It's amazing. And to be a lady in this look
being like myself in this it's not easy.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Man, Oh, it is not easy. It's so funny because
you know, I don't think that enough. You know, women's
voices are respected in the space of being like a researcher,
investigative journalist. A lot of men it's almost as if
like the conscious community has not caught up with the

(27:50):
rest of the world and that sort of equality and equality.
I'm not saying, oh, because women and men are the
same or any of that, but the most important thing
about how both men and women in any profession or
doing anything is that it's always going to be a
different perspective, and that different perspective lends itself to finding
new truths and whatever that is. It could be bird

(28:12):
investigations or UFO investigations, it doesn't matter where it is.
It's just it's like, if everybody's interested in what the
truth is, then I think that there needs to be
more of these different kinds of voices in that space
so that we can start to look at things a
little bit different. We're just otherwise, we're just going around
the same circle, like the trajectory, the craft and the thing,

(28:35):
and it's like, okay, that's all important, but like there's
got to be something else going on.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
As well, even the diverse voices. I mean, you know,
I'm wrapped all in one here, and it's like I
have literally in the past, I'm not kidding, you had
producers contact me and say, wow, you know so much. Well, yeah,
I kind of named and defined and you know, let
people know about these two topics. Yeah, well, we can't
have a woman lead. Can you teach a guy everything?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Good? Yeah, it's like what you know, it is a
crazy world out there. It's like, yeah, let's not reflect
what the world looks like. You know, let's make it
all guys show you know, it's it's weird and I
never could understand it. I'm like, you know, this is
a real world. There's a lot of different people who
have experienced a lot of things and getting, like you said,
their voices out, their perspectives out. I think it it

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really highlights, uh and encompasses so much because there's cultural differences.
There's different belief systems, you know, and different approaches. You know,
us ladies, we want to we want to understand and
feel it out. Guys want to measure things so.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Right, and then we need both right, we do.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
We need that balance, We need that balance and uh,
you know. So, I'm just I'm thrilled to know you
have been out there and you have been doing it.
Now you're in front of the camera doing it too.
I mean, tell us about some of these programs that
that you've been hosting. I mean, where are you going
with this?

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I don't know where I'm going with it, but I'm
definitely going into fields and dark spaces and looking for
stuff that is that's where they keep sending me. Yeah.
So I co hosted with Ben Hansen a series called
UFO Witness and we that aired earlier this year, and

(30:28):
that was awesome. That was definitely an experience and we
have some cool Like I said, I thought they pushed
the boundaries a lot further than some of these other
shows that I've been And even a year before that,
we did Invasion I did. I co hosted Hudson Invasion,
which is all about what's been going on the Hudson
Valley since the eighties, which is lots of UFO activity, abductions,

(30:51):
strange lights in the sky, missing time. Hudson Valley is
just a hot spot.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I was gonna say, what on earth is causing all
of that?

Speaker 4 (30:59):
What?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
What do you feel that is.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
You know, I don't know. I mean, there's all I
got into a big investigative rabbit hole, but the producers
didn't really think it was sexy. You know, it might
not have been. But there's a actual a very diverse
amount of vegetation and animal life that was reported by
the USGS and several government papers that I found from

(31:27):
I don't know, early two thousands. One was written in
the late seventies, and they've been studying this this it's
just unique the way that the vegetation grows and the
animal life there. Also there's definitely a lot of unique
properties of rock, not just granted, there's all sorts of

(31:50):
different kinds of ancient rock and layers of it. You
know that could be. That's always a factor when you're
looking into some of these UFO stories because you're thinking, Okay, well,
what would make this if this is a portal and
all sorts of weird stuff is happening, bigfoot cryptos, you
know that kind of thing. Is it if it's a portal?
Is it because of the makeup of the rock, And

(32:10):
there is definitely that going on there. But it's just
a hot spot, and it's to the point where like
I've been. There's so much Like that's my second show
there investigating that. My fiance was like, Hey, do you
want to like go up to Hudson Valley and get
a cabin? And I'm like, hell no, no, no, no, no,

(32:33):
I will not. Do you know what happened to Willy Driver.
I'm not. That's not happening to me.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Oh my gosh, that's crazy. And it's true. You know,
like a lot of people are like, oh, I want
to go out and to this grave site and do
some grave rubbings. I'm like, are you kidding me? No,
that is not an.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Adventure, especially if it's high activity.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
But yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I also did the Whitley Streaber special that they did
on Discovery Plus called the Visitors, and it was we
went back to the actual cabin that he had his
experience and that's where we shot and uh, you know,
he got he came back to see it after all
this time, and it's pretty emotional for him and oh,

(33:16):
I bet yeah, it was. It's a pretty you know.
I was talking to some of the locals, you know,
off camera about the area and it's been like a
sacred area to the Native Americans and they found burial
sites there, So it's kind of like, again, we're dealing
with some kind of portal on top of a portal,
so you have all of Hudson Valley and then where

(33:37):
Whitley's house was some other kind of portals.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Oh my gosh, So he didn't have a fighting chance,
that's what you're saying. No, it's wild to me. You know,
when neighbors start talking and realizing they're all experiencing similar things.
And I mean, I know you've heard of mass abductions.
I've met people who have been involved in and it's

(34:00):
like why, you know, why this area? What's calling it?
And it's like it has to be something like that,
like there there's something with the land, there's something with
an energy field. I mean, uh, there's there's so many
different elements. And you know, there's something to be said
to about some of these people who have experienced aliens

(34:22):
and are able to recall. Like I'm sure you've heard
these conversations with people who have been hypnotically regressed and
they're they're experiencing their their alien abduction and whatnot, and
they and the being starts talking through them instead of
them recalling what took place, and and there's this like

(34:42):
element where they they had an agreement with these beings,
like they remember this and that connection. I mean, what
are your thoughts about that when you've come across these stories.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
About the beans they all experience.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Sure, is that realize that connection, like they are the
reason for calling these you know, activity to a certain area. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
So that was when we were in Hudson Valley. We
spent a lot of time in one house because it's
it was kind of it felt like a train station
for all sorts of activity in one house. And it
was so crazy to me because these people wouldn't leave
and they'd been there, like generations have been there, and
they like you know, they even have like a bed
that they all sleep on when things get too crazy
in the house, Like that's how haunted aliens. You know,

(35:30):
weird stuff is happening there, right, that's amazing. But I
but when after being there, I thought to myself, I
feel that the actual people in this house are the conduit.
Somehow they're them being there. And I don't know if
it gets into the DNA conversation, that's a whole nother
ball of wax, but it could be that could be

(35:50):
part of that equation. They're they're them as DNA or
whoever they are are the conduit for the things to
pass through. And so when you're in places that are
thinner than others and you are somehow a conduit, then
they want to use you to come through. And I

(36:11):
really felt that if those people left that house, those
experiences won't happen anymore. They would be gone.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Oh yeah, I mean it just it seems to be
definitely a parent. So I'm like, you're talking about Hudson
Valley and Whitley Streemer, and it's like, well, would it
have occurred to him no matter where he lived, you know,
because he is quite unique.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, I mean he did move, he had he you know,
in his in his uh you had to leave that
original cabin and he went to a different cabin, and
he did have some experiences. Again, it could be a
place that's thin to have those experiences, and people might
be I'm sure you experiences all the time. I mean

(36:54):
I feel that there's certain people that have experiences all
the time, and then when other people are with them
they see these experiences too. No. Yes, kind of feel
that there is there's people that are are specific conduits
for certain frequencies right right.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
And it's like, what did he bring it to that
whole valley?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
I wouldn't do no, no, no, it has been going on
very very last I think, you know, I don't know
what happened in the eighties. I mean in the eighties
there was a Special Forces base and some top secret stuff.
I think just it's in Hudson Valley. It's an hour

(37:35):
north of one of the biggest hotspots. It's in Hudson Valley.
And and you know, my dad brought it up to
me when I was going there, and I'm like.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Oh, that's interesting, you know, and one was the most active,
he said, the eighties. And I'm like, hmmm, right, are
we dealing with an alien interaction or are we dealing
with some kind of top secret project?

Speaker 4 (37:57):
You know, maybe a little bit of both.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Oh. I wouldn't put it past anybody, to be honest,
But I mean, it's it's weird. It's like people get
called to areas too. I've known that there are certain areas,
you know, Ureka Springs is one of them, people moving
there spontaneously for you know, no good reason. But we're
going to get to our next break. You guys, you
are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis

(38:19):
on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back.
You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi

(38:40):
Hollis on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. We are speaking with the awesome Melissa
Tittle and my goodness, you know we're talking about Code
twelve and I want people to get the opportunity to
go out to some of these festivals and watch it
and check it out. So how can they do that?

Speaker 4 (39:02):
So if you go to all the website for the movie,
it's Coach fledthemovie dot com and subscribe, you'll get pre
content the stuff that didn't make the movie on all
sorts of weird patternistic stuff that we've discovered with the
idea of the world living in some kind of simulation,
and ancient texts and all sorts of interviews from all

(39:24):
sorts of people that if you're into ancient stuff, that
you will know and they'll definitely be a listing of
where you can watch a movie and then hopefully on
mainstream soon.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Awesome, you know, I got to ask you with all
the disclosure that's going on, and you know, there's a
lot of controversy. People are saying it's going to be
a false flag with aliens invading and everybody beware, you know,
and a lot of people aren't going to buy it,
and they're trying to prep each other to not buy it.
And you know, there's all these x you know, so

(39:54):
called ex government people who just so happen to be
in charge of disseminating this information, and so there's that
conflict too. And it's like and I always say, you know,
the government for such a long time has not been
very kind to people who have reported seeing these things,
and I have a hard time believing the kindness of
their heart. They just decided to Oh shucks, we're just

(40:17):
going to tell you we've been looking into this. You know,
how do you feel about some of this controversy that
that's been going on, because it's it's frustrating for those
of us who've been out there, you know, working hard,
and you know, just it's UFOs Nope, but it's UAPs.
Well hold on, there's a difference, like, hold on, I've
been harassed for talking about this friends might have been

(40:39):
harassed talking about this, and you know, where do you
sit and how do you feel about it?

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Well? I think that everything has a motivation, and so
you know what would be the motivation of coming out
and saying, hey, we've been looking into this. Well, we're
coming to an age now where information is just so fast,
Like it's not like the fifties or even the eighties
or even the nineties or they're early two thousands, Like
you can find stuff anywhere. And you know what I

(41:06):
tell people, you know I haven't worked in mainstream for
a really long time, is that it's the same thing
with Washington. Like if you're not buying, they're not selling.
If more people are like no, they're real, then like
why would they keep talking about it? Like the consensus
isn't Like it would just be like is that person talking?

(41:26):
They had to be they had to do something, They
had to like give something because more people are just
not buying it, It just doesn't make any sense. They
can't convince anybody otherwise. There's always going to be those
people that don't believe and they don't want to, but
there's too many people that are like no, not not
buying it, and so, but then what happens is that
becomes wrapped up in a political agenda because they don't

(41:49):
want it to get too far. They don't want people
to have too much power over that narrative of just
getting the truth. They want to wrap it up into
a political agenda. So now you have conversations with people
who might be open minded, but don't want to be
open minded because then that means they might be part
of a political party because they're now talking about aliens,
which is the whole point, so that it can't just

(42:10):
be an open conversation about hey, could there be life
outside of what we know as humanity? And so that's
all agendas. That's why it's like, so I think that
the pressure that humans are putting on to on the
establishments to be like, no, it's not working for us
is good. That's how you find you find answers. I

(42:31):
think that's the only way I can really try to
explain that. I know all those stories too. And there's
definitely people who have been harassed and to be quiet
and now they're like, no, come and tell us. I mean,
you know there's two things going on that they do
on intel. I mean, what if it's not extraterrestrial or
you know, it could be a spy situation and they
want to know about it. But I think that everybody

(42:53):
needs to really put the power into the people. What
is it that we think, like, what is it believe?
And from there dictates where this alien conversation goes. Not
if the president stands at the podium and says, yeah,
they're they've been they're here, they've been here for a
long time, and everybody goes, I knew it, you know,
I guarantee still a population of people would not believe

(43:15):
it's true.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
So oh oh, that's just so true. I had a
friend was like, I won't believe it until I see
it with my own eyes. A big mothership came over
her head. My friend totally ratted her out and like
it took out all the power when it went over Heidie,
and she said, well, I don't believe my own eyes.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Done.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I'm just done. I'm like, you know, I think also
there's this inner conflict. You know, for so many centuries,
the church ruled the rule of thought, you know it,
you know, you went by these certain rules, and there's
a lot of people that really feel divided on their
faith and they're being aliens, and I'm like, look, I
can have my faith and still no aliens exist. And

(43:59):
but I under stand these conversations and these different religious temples.
You know, it's it's been conflicting. But who has the
most powerful observatories in the world, a Vatican. When we're
looking at you know, they know what's out there. You
know it's enough is enough, and it's time to just

(44:19):
be honest. We have connections out there in the universe.
And how do you think people would would accept that
that do have these hardcore religious beliefs.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Well, I have another project I'm working on, and so
this kind of to dips into those toes a little bit.
They won't give I can't give away everything, but I
will say that I think that we really need to
we really need to go into why humans must explore
something they can't see. That's number one. Number two, whoever
controls the conversation of the supernatural is in control of

(44:53):
the hearts and the minds and the hopes the hope
of humans, right, because we can't solve that everything. We
have all this technology and we're still like, why did
that one thing happen to me that was so weird?

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
I mean, maybe you can ask chat GPT and they
can tell you and you'll be like a person with
that answer. The thing is is that there's always going
to be room for someone to come in and say,
I understand exactly what's happening in the supernatural. And when
I say supernatural, I'm just saying beyond the veil that
we can't see physically with all of our sixth senses,
and that organization, that person, you know, then it turns

(45:29):
into religion or whatever is the gatekeeper between between that,
and we listen to that because we want to be
close to what that is. And that is the thing
that we can't understand that intrigues us, that that gets
us up in the morning and thinking, oh my god,
what if that happens good and bad? Right? And this

(45:50):
is since the beginning of time. This is this is
when first humans got together and created tribes. Is it
the one person who could read the supernatural, who could
intuitive figure out what was going to happen and when
it was going to rain and all that. This was
the beginning of this trajectory of where we have all
these different beliefs in religion and thought processes. So the
alien conversation is that conversation. And so when we're thinking

(46:15):
about agendas, and you know who's control of it, whether
it's the Vatican right with the biggest they're like, okay, well,
if the aliens are coming here, we're going to totally
take over that conversation because we're gonna have the biggest
observatory ever.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
I mean honestly, the government leading away and saying, hey,
you know, we found all this stuff like they're coming out,
They're like, no, no, no, no, We've got this under control.
We've been investigating it, you know. So be aware of that.
Whoever owns the conversation of supernatural owns the tension of
humans because this is an important thing. Whether you believe
in aliens or not, it's still the element of the supernatural.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
It is absolutely coming. And yeah, I think there are
people and institutions putting themselves in that space, like you're saying,
you know, to be that bridge for them to interpret
what are we looking at? Well, that is a craft,
you know, and what who's flying it? Well, those are
our space brothers and sisters. Oh man, you know, it's

(47:17):
it's been.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Oh my goodness, Melissa Tidle, I want to thank you
so much for coming on the show. How how can
people see all the different projects that you've been involved
with and what's what's on your site there?

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Oh my god, thanks for asking. I'm really not good
at social media. I look at some of these people
that have just one show out and there, and they're
really good at social media, and I'm terrible, so terrible
about talking about myself. So thank you for inviting me
to talk about myself.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Oh gosh, yeah, so are you kidding me? I was like,
and you have a graphic novel. I'm like, okay, cartoonist here,
can you tell us briefly, how the heck and why
the heck did you go there and doing a graphic novel?
It looks amazing, by the way.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Oh my god, hold on a long conversation, but I'll
make a short I had I was living in Venice
Beach at the time, and I was biking home from
like I get together, and I was looking up at
the stars and I had this whole download of this
like situation that happened during the Vietnam War. But these
alien hybrids crash landed in the jungle and they looked

(48:17):
human and they had their whole mission was to create
more chaos within the you know, not just the war
in Vietnam, but definitely to create chaos within the higher
rankings of just society. And this is during the sixties
and beginnings of the seventies, when obviously there was this

(48:37):
huge influx of thought process. All of a sudden, you know,
you went from the fifties, everybody was living in a
pink house and doing everything they're supposed to and listening
to the government, and then all of a sudden, it
was just an explosion of like people just doing whatever.
There's no they're thinking differently, and so it was this
whole kind of alien, highbred thing connected to Andromeda. Like

(48:58):
it was insane.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Oh yes, that sounds amazing. Wow. Well, hey, you guys
go check out Melissa Tittle dot com and hathor at
studios dot com and learn more about all of her projects.
Thank you so much once again for coming on the
show today, Melissa.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Yay, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Wow. Well we have come to the bottom of another
excellent program. I want to remind you guys to go
to my main website, which is Heidihollis dot com or
Shadowfolks dot com and check out my paranormal comic strip
at Theoutlanders dot com. Don't forget to follow me on
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(49:36):
Heidi Hollis and also at the Outlanders Comics. You know,
this has been just so insightful and I really enjoyed
the conversation. I did to think Melissa Tittle once again
for coming on the program. I also want to remind
you to go to Facebook and join my groups. I
have paranormal Pledges for anybody that has experienced anything out

(49:56):
of the ordinary that just wants to talk about it.
And then there is shadow People in the hat Man
Experiencer that is for everybody that's dealing with these odd
things or wants to learn more about them. And then
I have faith the other F word, m hmm. That's
about the topic of faith, because it's rather important in
the face of some of the things that we are

(50:17):
facing out here when it comes to especially shadow people
in hat Man. Gotta arm up, you know what I'm saying.
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