The Third Time's A Charm with Jasmin Brown

A new mother to a child of her own, and a bonus mom to her partner's kids, Jasmin Brown is not worried about what the internet has to say. In this episode of A Day With Kay, Khadeen talks to our internet bestie WatchJazzy about the highs and lows of motherhood so far, her journey as a comedian and why the third time's a charm. Dead Ass.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When I became a mother, there were certain things that
I was only able to experience as a mom, no
matter how much people told me, you had to be
in the thick of it. I feel so responsible these days.
Responsibility looks good on you, sis, dead assadass. Hey, I'm

(00:24):
Kadeen and I'm Devout and we're the Ellis's.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You may know us from posting funny videos with our
voice and reading.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Each other publicly as a form of therby. Wait, I
make you need therby most days. Wow. Oh, and one
more important thing to mention, we're married.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yes, sir, we are. We created this podcast to open
dialogue about some of Li's most taboo topics.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Things most folks don't want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass
is a term that we say every day. So when
we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the day
we about to take Bilotov to a whole new level.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Dead ass starts right now, all right, story time. So
if you're wondering if this was planned, it wasn't. I mean,
it was planned for me to have Jazzy here with
me today. However, the whole, like Denilone situation black, the
black underlay, the black leggings totally not planned. However, according

(01:28):
to Triple, if both of us look three inches to
the right and two inches down our side, profiles are
giving family. And that's because we are yeah so jazzy,
and I recently found out that we are a legitimate family. Now.
First of all, finding someone who is of Jamaican and
Vincy Vincenian descent is very like, It's not common. I

(01:50):
feel like I usually see someone who's like Jamaican and Trinidadian,
you know, maybe Vincy and Guyanese. But I've never actually
met someone right. And I think when we first met,
I had asked you if you were like Guyanese or something. Yeah,
you were like, no, My my dad's from Jamaica. My
mom's from Saint I say Vincent. And I was like what,
But you know what's funny.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
My whole life I thought that I was Trinny was
my mom was born in Trinidad, but she would always
say born in Trinidad by way of Saint Vincent, Like
my whole family's from Saint Vincent.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So in my mind, I'm like, aren't you where you're from, right,
I was like, where you were born? So she was
like raised in Trinidad, she was born there? Oh she
was born in Trinidad. Oh, yes, so she was born
in Trinidad, but then she came over.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah because her fam is her both her parents are
from Saint Vincent. Okay, however, her dad was in Trinidad
for some business and that's where she ended up being born.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha dad? Like nationality wise, I guess she's
technically Trinidad yet, right, But the whole family, the whole
bloodline is it's fency Okay, So we had to scale
it back. So I was at Jasmine's baby shower, okay,
having a grand all time, putting the rug, and then
I introduced myself to your mom and dad, which is
such a West Indian thing. Introducing yourself to everybody. Absolutely

(03:03):
you have to. You can't walk into a room and
not slate, especially not speak, not introduce yourself, because then
they're gonna question if you have Mana's right. So in
order to be Mana Zebel to your mom and dad,
I went over and introduced myself and they were so sweet.
If father gave me a big hug and then they
looked over and they were like Zach. And I'm like, yes, Ax,
my husband like Zach, Zach's my husband. And then I

(03:26):
saw your mom and I was like, oh, my goodness,
you're from Saint Vincent and she said yes. I said, oh,
my dad is from there too, and I saw her
eyes get wide and then she like literally grabbed my
arm and sat me next to her and she was like, so,
what's your last name, what's your dad's last name, what's
your family name? Do you know this person? Which part
of Saint Vincent? And that's how typical West Indians are, right.
We get together and we do the whole tracing of

(03:48):
the bloodline and the family tree based on last names
and which part you're from. Right. So we did all
of the tracing and everything, and I said to her,
I was like, listen, I'm gonna have to like talk
to my dad and cross reference and see what's happening.
So she said, here's my phone number. You have to
call me and text me. So fast forward. Now I'm
texting Jazzy on the side like Hey, I'm talking to

(04:09):
your mom. We're having this whole conversation over here, and
my dad is now going back and forth with your
mom about like who they know, what are the people
they know, what areas they're from. And there's definitely some
crossing of family there. Now we could be third or
fourth cousins, but cousins nonetheless. And you know in the Islands,
if one person is your cousin, everybody's your cousin. So

(04:32):
that was a fun thing to find out about Jazzy
because we've always talked about like how we have the
similar kind of mixtures. People always say that we look
alive yep, yep, exactly, So it just kind of made
sense and it was actually kind of cool to you related.
It's like, well, we are related, we are we are
so me. I'm a baby by cousin. Okay, we're gonna
sit down and we're gonna talk. The overarching topic for

(04:55):
this season is perception versus reality, And the biggest part
about this interview with Jazzy it's her first as a
new mom. That's so crazy, so talk about relating on
a whole nother level. We're gonna dive in and talk
about what life has been looking like for you lately,
and I'm so honored for you to have to be
sitting down with me for the first time with a

(05:17):
baby girl off in the wings with mom and the
boys learning how to read, learning how to read, and
probably dunk a basketball at three months. All right, karaoke time?
Did we figure out a karaokee song?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Jazzon and I were going through like the whole gamut
of all the songs that we enjoy. One was Little Kim,
but she was a bit risk for the episode. So
I mean, I mean, we do risk a, we do risky,
we do risk a. But you're from the late nineties,
early two thousands. Good is mad songs that I could sing, son,
I could pull it, masks up. I just want to
know what your favorite could Dude? Did you have I

(05:50):
Know you love Me? Like cook food? Even though a
nigga got a move like a crooked move, she bars
did not sound familiar. No, what is that zy song? Cry? Oh? Yes,
the flow was a little off though the melody was off.
Do it again, Do it again?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's because it's acapella. It's a cappella. Acapella, a cappella.
I think with the a acapella like showtime about.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
The Okay, it came to mind, I'm thinking about because
there's one part that I don't know. Good dude, I
know you love me like cook food, even though a
nigga gotta move like a crooked move. We were together
on the block since free Lunch. They should have been
together having four.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Seasons, but we used to. We used to use umbrellas
to face the bad weather. Now we travel first class
to change the four never have bunches, just me and you.
I loved your point of view because you have no punches.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Bars. But you weren't a partner of it. Though we're
supposed to do it together. I know it's all right.
Though you was in your element. I let you rock.
I let you rock. I liked it, you was feeling it.
I was see. Sometimes it comes to you in the moment.
You know what I'm saying. So I let you rock.
You might guessterday booth. Yeah, it's your world. I'm just
living in it right now, all right. So I'm gonna
brush up on my jay Z lyrics real quick. I'm

(07:04):
gonna pay some bills as well. We might feed some babies,
make sure everybody's still alive and ticking, and we'll be
back with the meat of the show with Jasmine Brown.
All right, y'all, today you figured out my guests because
I gave it away. I typically like to make it
like really interesting in the beginning, but I was so
excited to have my girl, Jazzmine Brown. Y'all know her

(07:24):
as watch Jazzy on Instagram. A stand up comedian, a
character artist, and, as we learned recently, my cousin, but
also an actress as well. Jazzy us is comedy to
give a multi perspective view at life's ups and downs.
One of my favorite characters of her, Miss Toya turn Up,
Oh my gosh, an uncouth around the way girl who

(07:47):
says what's on her mind. And I'm sure many can
relate to. Even if y'all don't want to admit it,
I know there's a couple Toya turn Up, some real
life out there and it's all good, all good, no
judgment zone at all. Welcome Jazzy to the show, y'all.
What's up, girl? What's up? That was a good intro?
Thank you. You know it's funny we always have the
intro here. But what I like to do is for

(08:07):
my guest, you being like the second or third. So
this is something I'm starting, but I want you to
tell me who's Jazzy, who's Jazmine Brown? And is there
a difference?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, well, you know what it's the question is who's
watched Jazzy, who's Jazzy and who's Jazzmin Brown?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Okay, because watch Jazzy man that whole And.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's funny because it's like I don't want to say
it's a character, because that's really my personality. Like how
I started, like in the car doing my rant, saying whatever,
and like those clips were going viral like that was
watched Jazzy. So it was like a girl that you
would watch my name is Jazzy and just keep watching me.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
But then it got like when I started to grow
up and mature, and but my audience not everybody would
come with me, so I found myself having to still
do the same stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
So that's when I felt like, Okay, now it's it's
because I'm more of a character now because I can't
grow out of it.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I mean I can, but the people want this. So
you were trying to evolve from watch but she got stuck.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, because I noticed that like people want like if
they relate to you in one way, they want to
they want you to stay that way. And then there's
some people who will grow with you, like they have
kids too, Like a lot of other influences shout out
to La La Milan, like she just had a baby
as well, Candice and Omar had a baby, so like
they go from being like influencers and now their parents.
So now like we now all of us can relate

(09:32):
to each other. Now, yes, but like my content back
in the day of like you know, niggas ain't shit
and just what is somebody's supposed to be doing this
and this and this for you.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's just it's just different now. But people want me there, right,
They want to hold you to that. They want to
hold me there.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
So now it's like someone told me, they were like, oh, ever,
since you got a man, you think you a.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Profit, you're a prophet, Like that's not what I think.
That's not what you think. That that's what you believe, right,
but like versus reality exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So that's when I realized I had to try to
just keep that thing the thing because it was selling,
you know, like doing my comedy, doing my shows, like
even like Toya turn Up, that character was created way before,
like the Suki Hannas and Sexy Reds and city girls
like that was like, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
You were the original but O g Like we said, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
So now it's like if I if that character, if
I were to keep going, like it's right on brand
now because that's kind of how like a lot of
the culture, like it has gone in that kind of direction.
But I've even had to take a break on her
so I could just focus on Okay, who am I?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Like? What am I doing? Right? So we're talking about
jazz now. We talked about Watch Jazzy, Jazzy Jazz.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, Jazzy is that's like my family Jazz Jazzy. You know,
at home, I'm Auntie Jazzy, you know, so that's like
my home name, you know, Jazzy Watch Jazzy, Yes, my
home name.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
And then Jazmine Brown is like who I am?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Like that, it's like I guess, oh my gosh, the
mom yeah, the motherly side, the woman's side, the partner side,
that's the actress side.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah. So how have you felt stifled, I guess in
a sense, or have you felt stifled with people who
still crave Watch Jazzy but you feel like maybe I've
outgrown that portion of my life or I've outgrown that
portion of content or my talent. Do you feel stifled
in having to still curtail your content to make sure
that you're including those people or do you feel like,

(11:31):
you know what, whoever's gonna come with me gonna come
with me. Regardless, whoever's gonna come is gonna come.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Because now it's like I can still do the content,
but now it's gonna be baby related. Now it's like
instead of me talking about dudes or whatever, can't.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Talk about that anymore.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Have a man, so it's like I'm not really I'm
not outside anymore, right, So now it's like, let me
talk about these babies and how these kids are acting,
you know, so that I can do more of that
kind of stuff. I just haven't really found that dance yet. Okay,
there's things that I think about all the time, like, oh,
this would be good if I would have rant about this, yes,
But then I haven't because I'm just like, as you know,
like having a newborn. It's like, oh, yeah, first of all,

(12:04):
you have brain fog. Because we had a moment like
a mug.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
We both had brain fog. First of all, this is
contagious Okay, I thought my brain fog went because I'm
here two and a half years PILs Dakota. And then
we were talking about something and I for a second
we were like what were we talking about?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
And then you were like, I don't know what we
were talking about. And then you were like I don't
even know what I was talking about.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
And I was like, need to do it. And it
was like, oh, this shit is contagious. It is so constagious.
But I love that. I love that you are finding
new ways to I guess it kind of eventually evolve.
People don't know how to evolve sometimes, though, So you
got backlash from people who felt like Toya Turn Up
or watch Jazzy used to preach one thing through your comedy,

(12:45):
but then now she's at a different point in life,
and they were trying to hold you to that standard.
How did that make you feel in that moment?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
It's crazy because it's like, dang, like I can't, I
can't evolve.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Y'all want me to stay the same. It's like, y'all
want me to be single so bad, and you're mad
because I'm not.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's just sound by then y'all y'all.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Want me to be single so bad.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It's like, why can't I if everybody's out here looking
for love?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Why essentially I would think that most people are right.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, I mean it's like, okayship even though right, companionship,
love somebody, a warm body, whatever it is. It's like,
you don't necessarily want to be alone. And if you
keep and if you're telling yourself that, I think you're
lying to yourself because eventually, you know, I read something.
I read something the other day that was like, if
you if you have nobody checking for you to make

(13:33):
sure you made it home safe, nobody, nobody did wake
up early for and have to do anything for nobody,
nobody home or waiting for you when you get home.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is that freedom or is that loneliness? Oh? I think
I saw that you may have reposted that I did.
I did. I thought about that and you polled and
it was what was the result of that poll? What
do people think? Do you remember freedom? Freedom? People think
it's freedom. People think it's freedom.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
But I mean there was a good amount that said
lonely yea, but I mean it was but freedom was was,
you know, had the higher vote. But it's interesting, it's
interesting to think about that yeah, because it's like, you
can you know, I have friends that are amazing women
that are single. And I was having a conversation with
one of my friends and he was like, he was saying,
he's like, Yo, my grandmother's ninety something years old and

(14:18):
she still has been on that if he ain't got
this and he ain't got this, he ain't got this
and he ain't.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Do one for me. And he's like, and she's nine
ninety and still ain't got.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Nobody, wow, because he better be doing this, this and
this and having X y Z and her list was rigid,
and her list was rigid, and it wasn't gonna budge
and Granny ninety plus still talking about he need to
be doing this, this and that at.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Ninety Oh granny hard right, So it was he might
find granny and man, he was so he was like,
you know, there's women who are like that. So it's
not to say that like that.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I was not to say that I settled, but I mean, obviously,
like you know, everybody knows my man got a lot
of kids, right, and we just had one. So people
the main thing I always hear women like, oh, how
can you be with someone with so many kids, or
it's like, originally, like I thought I was gonna I
thought me and my.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Person, we were gonna be each other's first first. That's
what I thought, especially that would be ideal for you. Yeah,
that's what I thought was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
So it's like, okay, but I had an open mind
and then with that I met somebody amazing. So it's
like it's sometimes the list is so strong and you
not budget, but it's.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Like, just see what you're going. I'm not telling you
to settle, but baby, just see what areas you can
you know, sing, So it's not necessarily settling, but however,
you know you have a list, right, you have this
mental note of things that you want your partner to have.
They are not going to check all the boxes, not
in life.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
And listen and not at once, right, because I remember
I was I wrote I posted a list of like
the man I wanted years ago, and somebody was like,
I love your list. It's great, but and I believe
you can find all of this, but you got to
give the person time to.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Become these become those things. Because for you to.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Find someone who has all of that all at wants, baby,
you ain't the only one who own him.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's that's my husband. Hello, that's literally my husband at eighteen.
Do you think he had all of the attributes that
I thought he was gonna have. I mean no, I
will say I had a little foresight, you know, I
knew he was gonna go to his big head and whatnot.
And I say he had little work ethics and ambition.
So I'm like, Okay, we can do this together. But yes,
you're right, as you grow, as you change, as you evolve,
you become a better version of yourself for that person,

(16:33):
because that's the motivation.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yes, So it's like they're not going to have everything
all at once, right, but it's like how long are
you going to give them to become everything on your list?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's now that's a determining factor because some people, men
and women, yeah, will sit and they'll wait and they'll
hope for change. How do you decipher then, is this
just who the person is? Or am I attached to
the potential of who they could be? Because I had
this conversation recently with someone who is no longer in

(17:02):
a relationship, and she said that she was in love
with the idea of who she thought this person was
going to become. And after however many years or whatever
they were involved, she realized, Okay, this is really who
he is and I can't make him be anybody else.
I can't make him see his potential. So at what
point do you think people should just say, you know

(17:23):
what I am in this person and in this relationship
for what and who they are now, not expecting any change.
That's tough, because baby, you gotta change.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
You can't stay the same, you know, and whether you're
changing for me or changing for yourself, you gotta you
have to do something evolving. So it's like, go into it,
like them how they are, however they come, like them
like that because you have to like them like that.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's cool to be like hopeful on the potential.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
But if they don't change at all, do you like
them how exactly how they are in that moment?

Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's exactly what I Oh, really, and it's funny to
be interesting, you said, yeah, we cousins, baby, lady.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I told you it's funny because like that was me,
Like I was so fixated on like the potential of
the potential and then it was like, you know, we
had a thing and I'm like, oh, he's going to
be this.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
And that and dah da da, And then when he
became all those things, he dropped me ooh he like
plot twist. Yeah, like he went and explored his horizons
right right.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
You know, it was like, Okay, I've reached a certain
level of success right now, I want to see.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
What if the grass is green? Are over there? You know.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
And we weren't like officially like boyfriend and girlfriend, but
we were like we knew each other.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Fel together, yeah, kind of doing life together simultaneously, yeah,
seeing how it would go. Right. So I guess the
way you protect yourself in a moment like that is saying, okay,
we're doing life together. We're seeing we're of support to
each other, but not being fully bought in until you
know what the potential outcome may be, or seeing how
things are going, kind of feeling it out and not
being exclusive.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
But then there's people who will wait around to see if,
like how that future looking, and then they try to
lock in on you real quick, like oh girl, he
just real he just got this contract. Let me try
to lock him down. Yeah yeah, And then there's that
right again, back to what we both said. You gotta
like the person food.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Oh they are right who they are right then and there,
I find to change gears a little bit. I believe that,
and I spoke about this. I think with b on
our episode that people can't use against you what you
already put out there. So if you're transparent, if you're honest,
if you're living in your truth, you know they'll try.
They'll try, but it won't hit the same. I was

(19:34):
just gonna say that it's not gonna hit the same.
So for you, going on your last tour while you
were pregnant as the third Baby Mama, I think that
was so clever of you to come up with that title.
How did you arrive at that title and were you
essentially playing yes, making just of the situation that you
were in, knowing that people were going to joke on
you about it.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's so funny that you say that, because I remember
being pregnant and I had other friends who were and
at the same time as me.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Talking about like, oh my gosh, my baby's doing this.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I feel my baby kicking, I feel my baby doing this,
and I was like, I'm like, I was probably like
seven months and I was like, I'm not feeling like
I don't feel no kicks. I'm like, should I feel
anything by now, like at least like something. I felt,
well maybe not, maybe around like the five six mark.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
But I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Everyone's like, it's so beautiful you feel these movement and
it's like I'll go to the doctor and they'll say
the baby's healthy and all the things. But I'm like,
I'm not feeling movement like that. And then I realized
that there was too much noise around me. I had
to get in a quiet place. I left town, I
went away. I went to Florida. I went to Cocoa Beach, Florida,
and I stayed there for three days. And I just

(20:43):
wanted to have like solitude and silence and just just.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Lock in on my baby.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
So every day I would get up and I'll be like,
we're gonna go have breakfast, We're going to this, We
went to church, we did all the things. We would
go on like dates, and I would act as if
like my child was with me. And then so you
were like verbally speaking to herbally speaking.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I didn't know what it was, yes, because.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, So I remember I bought a book and I
was just reading. I was reading the chapter a day,
and I remember like as soon as I finished reading
one chapter and I closed the book, and I'm like,
well that's it. I mean kicking like wait, like what
happens next kind of thing, and I remember breaking down
crying like oh my gosh, like this is so crazy.
So the next day I was like I was contemplating

(21:26):
on going to the beach and I was like, oh
my gosh, like me being in a bathing suit with
this big, old pregnant stomach, Like I don't know how
I feel about it, Like what are people going to
think about me? You know what, I'm here by myself.
I look like a single person with its like you know,
I mean, I just I just started to feel like
people were just gonna judge, right, And then I was
saying like I started thinking about how I would see
because you know, once you become pregnant, like your algorithm

(21:48):
on social everything is pregnant.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And I remember just like looking at my.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Timeline and seeing all these beautiful pregnant women who don't
have no acne or bacnie or heartburn or none of
the things. And I remember looking at them like, yo,
this isn't real, Like your armpiss ain't black, Like what
is going like?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
You know what I mean? Like I' still recovering chill.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
My armists was so dark and I'm just and I
remember just being in there just venting to myself like, Yo,
this isn't real, Like you guys aren't keeping it real,
you know. And then like I go on the bathroom
if I throw my phone down, I go in the
bathroom and I'm like just looking in the mirror, like
fixing my ponytail or something, and I promise you I
heard a voice that said, go on tour. I was like, God,
I know you ain't talking to me. And I was like,

(22:29):
and I'm talking out loud like this, I go on tour?
I said, and do what and say what?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
How?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh I'm the third one. He got all these kids,
and I'm this and that what I'm gonna call it? God?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
And he said yep, uh baby mama, number three third
times a charm And then I was like, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I was like that's it. So this is in turn
you taking, for example, do not toy your turn at
per se, but using the content and the following and
the comedic aspect of it, and then now making your
own based on your current situation.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yes, And I was just like, you know, and I
called my agent and I was like, how do you
feel about this idea?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
She's like jazz that is brilliant. And I was like,
because I.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Already know what they're gonna say about me, right, but
if I can beat them to it and say it first, right,
you ain't got nothing on me. Right, You're gonna say
I'm the third one, okay. And I said that already
you're gonna say this a sixth child, okay. And I
said that already, right, you're gonna say all You're gonna
say all all the things. Right, You're gonna say, oh.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
You did all that shit for a nigga who ain't
even put a ring on it. I said, oh, I
said that in my stand up, you know what I mean? Right,
Like I opened up like that. Right. So that was brilliant,
I think because when they went dival, so we were
just like, it makes total sense. And this is so
on brand for Jazzy, like thinking about what's gonna be
the next thing to do, what's the next way, What's

(23:48):
how can I now personalize this experience experience, I.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Said, just the sweetening even more. I was like I'm
not gonna post a picture of my you know, people
post a little stomach like I'm expecting, right, I was like,
my pregnancy photo gonna be my flyer when they so
when they share it, they're promoting my show. That's the
only photo you have of me with my with my
bump out right, It's got my tour dates on it.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Crazy, So when you share it, m hm, do you
know where it was going to go. It was gonna
be in all the group chats and the shade room, Yeah,
the sites and everything. I mean, they found a way
to just take my photo and just I'm sure you know,
as they tend to do as they tend to do.
So how much of that for you, if we think
about perception and reality, how much of that for you was?

(24:33):
I guess from a mental standpoint, was it you guarding
yourself to say, you know what, I know people are
going to say this all ready, so let me say
it first. Or do you just genuinely don't care what
people have to say at this point, you know? Or
are you in your you know, being on the social
media front, being in the public eye. Your partner is
someone who's in the public eye as well, So at
what point do you say, you know what, I don't

(24:55):
care anymore, or do you still care? You know what's interesting?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Like when I found out, I was ignant, completely caught
me by surprise.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I felt a lot of shame. M M. I felt
a lot of shame. What was the shame? Was it
out of wedlock? Shame? Was it who you're pregnant for?
What your family would think? What was the all of it?
All of it?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
All of it wasn't necessarily him, Well maybe it was.
It was a little bit of everything. It was like
I waited till I was probably about five months to
even tell my mom. Wow, yeah, because I was like
I knew how they you know, we know that was
Syndian's standard. Yeah, you know about you know, being married
out of way, I mean, pregnant, out of wed locke
all that, so you know all the things.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
How are we going to tell the family?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I wait, I waited. It's that crazy as adults
were still like so concerned about what are so I
just think because I remember, like I will always say
like I don't want to be nobody's baby mom, Like
I don't want to be a baby Like, no, I
don't want to be a baby gave. I don't.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
And it's so funny because I will always say that
even before I got pregnant, before like and it wasn't
even that we were even trying, like I like he
knew how I felt about that, like I don't, like
I have no interest in being that.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
And then it was like, here we are.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
You know what I'm saying, Here we are, And it's
just so crazy because like I just never thought and
not to say that I'm just too good, but it's
like I just never I just never thought.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
That's not something you saw for yourself. Yeah, and that's okay.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, So it was so then it was also one
of those things like yeah, bitch, like you thought you
was so much better than us, and here you are.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You just like you just like me. Baby mama, shit,
baby mama, shit. But I think you also, I think
it wanted. I don't remember if it was in a
video or a story like or what you're it's your
rebuttal to it was, yeah I am, but the situation
that I'm in is different. It's different. Yeah. So then
that was the thing.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
It was like, Okay, I gotta just I gotta just
get in front of it.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Part of your show. Yeah, yes, yeah, I gotta get
in front of it.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And then you know, at the end of the day,
it's like because people are like there's tears to it.
It's like, okay, you're his baby mother because you guys
aren't married. But then it's like, you guys are in
a relationship. So are you Are you just that? Are
you his partner? And are you the mother of his child?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
You know what I mean? So it's a layered relationship.
It's not just a third baby mother. Yeah, it's like
we are in a relationship together. We are doing life together,
we are raising a family together, we are doing all
the things together. So it's like I am I like
to look at myself or we call each other life partner,
you know what I mean. So it's more like a
partnership than just like a baby mother to no, for sure.

(27:26):
And you are promoting healthy, blended families, and there are
a lot of healthy blended families out there and a
lot that are not so healthy. So how do you
make it a point to make that a priority for
your family with your life partner and you're now bonus children. Yeah,
it was always a priority, it was always a prime.
So there wasn't a shift when you became a mother.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
No, I just knew that I was going to need
time to get myself together because out the gate, I
was just doing a lot and I know, and I
created a standard that I knew that I wasn't going
to be able to pulled once I had my own child,
because one, I need to lay down somewhere, I need
to just be with the baby, so I can't be
as hands on as right I was prior to my child,

(28:09):
you know. And it's funny because I remember, I don't
know if you you have to remember when that video
came out of like the whole I went viral for
saying I was a submissive woman, right, and all the
things that I do for my man and all those things, yes,
And people were coming at me saying like, oh, that's
because you ain't got no kids, and wait till kids
are involved. And the funny thing was it was like
I was doing all of that with like it's just

(28:31):
that we don't really talk about my role in the
children's lives, right, But it was just like, you guys
are so stupid. You think that like I'm not doing
this already, Like you think that I can't do. I
can't take care of the man and take care of
the kids and take care of the house.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
You just don't see it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
And then, like I said, I have a baby now
and obviously like I'm still.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
A bonus mom. The pancakes are still getting flipped and
they never stopped flipping.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
So everybody who thought that because I'm scratching my man's
back to sleep, But I'm not gonna have time to
flip flapjacks the pancakes and breastfeeds and breastfeed and clean
and study my lines and work and be a super
mom and do all the things.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Pancakes still flipping. Well, shit, I'm coming over the banana too.
Oh fancy from scratch from scratch scratch house. I love
that for you. That is great, that's great, and I
think it's a thing where what I appreciate about you, Jazzy,
is that you're not This is not a facade for you,
It's not a this is your real life.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
And what I noticed, Kadeen, and I have to say
this before before I forget, it's people put their fear
on you of what they're unwilling to do, so instead
of you saying so instead of you being like, oh,
I'll never be the one getting up in the morning
making pancakes and doing all the things and going to
the jumpy house and taking them to do whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You won't do that. So you are extection. So you
assume that I'm not doing it. My baby is being
done right and doing it gladly, gladly. So it's not
even a thing where you're over here like I gotta
do this. No, it's innate in you.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
To that person, it's like the nurtur Yes, so we
have this thing that say like I don't have to
do this.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I get to do this. I want to do this,
I want to do this.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I get the opportunity to do this, you know, like
I have the opportunity to be an amazing mother figure
in these children's lives.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Like yeah, who you know what I mean? I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And then there's people who just don't want no parts
of that at all, who see somebody with a lot
of kids and run and run right.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
But it's just like you have the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, I know my intentions are good, and I know
I know how I was raised, and I you know,
it's like it's beautiful to be able to have that
opportunity to do that. But some people just they see
somebody with so many kids and they just run, They
run from the idea of it.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, I love that for you, Jazzy. I love that
because nothing about our conversations. I've called you a lot
of times to check up on you, just to make
sure that you were good, just being a new mom
now having your own baby, just to make sure that
your mental good and that you're you're you know, not
offering unwanted advice, but just making sure that you're okay.
Because as the first time mom, I'm sure you get

(31:07):
it from all different angles. Yeah, but I want it
from you because you're like the girl. Yeah, I got
mad kids as you saw as you saw as a
new shirt now right, no shirt. So this is like
boy House through and through. So now that you're a
new mom, transitioning from bonus mom, it's different. It's different
having your own So what has been the most rewarding

(31:29):
thing for you now having a baby girl? And what's
been the most challenging for you? I never thought I
would have a daughter. I was like, really, Lord, because
at first people are you really don't want to know
what it is.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
And I was like, honestly, I just whatever guy's gonna
give me is what I is what I need.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
And then I saw I was a girl.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
It's so funny because as soon as she was born,
the doctor like put her vagina to my face.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
She was like, it's a girl, and I was like
what we kind of.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Had an idea though, like people kept saying like, oh,
it's a girl, it's a girl. Right then I was
like I felt girl energy. But then I was like, yo,
this mam make nothing but sons. So you were just
like I was like, I don't know, I don't know.
But then when she came out, I was like, wow,
I mean it's just honestly, I'm such a lover and
I feel like it was the love that completed me
because I've always been like I feel like I'm always

(32:17):
the one that loves the other person more.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
You know What's funny. My grandmother used to say that
she was like, this is my vincy side. Someone who
loves you? Is that a thing that she was just like,
if it's not about who love you, I mean, it's
not about who you love, it's about who love you.
She used to always say that like your partner should
love you a little bit more than you. Yes, that's
what my mom love you more.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I know, I know. I tell him all the time.
I'm like, I definitely love you more inship.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
He's like, he's like, no, he'd be like, you don't
know that. And I'm like, tells me the same thing.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
He was, I definitely love you, Ma, I said, no,
you may be physically more of the like touchy feely
affectionate person, but that doesn't equate to love anymore, you know.
And he's like, I never thought of me like that.
I'm like, yeah, exactly. I'm like, people love differently, so
having a daughter something I cannot relate to. However, Oh wow.
When we were talking kind of pre show, you talked
a little bit or touch a little bit about like, damn,

(33:14):
like having a daughter now, how transparent do you plan
to be with her? And are there any worries or
concerns you have raising a daughter based off of the
way you lived your life?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, basically what I said to you earlier was like, yo,
I hope she wasn't. She's not gonna be a whole
like I was, but you know what, she's not though,
because I had dad.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I had daddy issues, did you I did? Is it
like he was spoken about before having daddy issues, but
your dad not present, because I feel like I seen
him my dad.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
My dad was very present. However, you said there's different
ways you can love something. Yes, we had different love languages,
so I didn't. I took his love as not caring.
His love was you have a car, you got a
roof over your head, you got all I don't need this.
I don't need to tell you. Look at the car
you're driving, and you got full tank of gas and
your oils chain.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yes, all the things.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Matter of fact, you have a that I worked hard
to get you. Yes, But it was like you didn't
say it. Yeah, he didn't give me a hug after right,
So for me, it was just like, oh, like I
wanted that, so I guess yeah. So in my mind,
I'm like, it's like, did I create those issues on
my own? Like did I make up having daddy issues?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Because I was just I just didn't understand you didn't
understand their way of loving.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yes, So later on in life, I just I realized like,
oh my gosh, like man, this whole time, I was
just telling people like man, daddy issues and my dad this,
this and that, when really my dad was an amazing provider.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
That's interesting. So it's interesting to hear because so many
times you do hear about like the absentee father and
then people having issues because of that. But your father
was very presented and everything, but he didn't love in
your language. Yes, So it made you still feel like
a void or a deaficity, and that forced you to
look for love in places that you probably shouldn't have been. Right.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
But I'm driving in a car that he worked hard
for to get to where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm driving in my new car.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
You driving a right, right, right in a car that
your father bought, but but you don't love but he.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Don't love you. Wow, It's it's a cultural thing too.
It definitely is a cultural thing because I look at
my parents and stuff and my mom and dad and
you know, now, Deval and I have our moments where
we sit through the podcast and we talk about like,
you know, our parents didn't do this, and they didn't
do that, and you know if they did this differently,
and they're like, man, we we sometimes put our parents
through the ringer when it's like damn, they really raised

(35:29):
some amazing parents and they did the best that they
could with what they knew. And to this day, my
mom to this day will be like, oh, Deval, like
I made you brown stewfish and stuff I knew you
were coming home, or oh, your closet was a little
bit in disarray, so I organized it for you. That's
her way of showing love. Yeah, she's not going to necessarily,
you know, throw her arms around your neck and hug

(35:49):
you and kiss you all day or say I love you.
But it's through acts of service. I guess. I think
our families, our background is very much like acts of
service to show their love. But my mom was very like,
I'm gonna hug you on and kiss you. I'm gonna
do all that.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
She would wake us up in the morning by kissing
our feet. Really yeah, so like what a difference.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
What a difference.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
So it's like I feel like raising a daughter, you
gotta be honest, you know, and and I know that
like coming up in this day and age, like she
could she can watch some of my old videos. She
could see some of my perspectives on how I used
to feel about things, or some of my old stand
up clips or whatever, And I don't want to lie
to her like I want.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
To you want to explain that to her?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, Like I want us to have the kind of
like I don't want to like we're not gonna be friends,
right because you.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Know, make it very clear with our friends. Me and
you're not size used to say, or she would be
like two women can live in the same house. So
if you think your oh man, leave, get told you
find your own house. I'm like, first of all, you
never sounded more Jamaican than when you tell me to
leave the house because we not the same size. Sis,
I ain't trying to be your size. I'm just saying

(36:57):
it always reaches that point thinking that mother daughter relationship
ship where it's just like, you know, mama knows best
I can foresee, you know that roadblocks obstacle. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, But like cam is extremely honest and you know,
and very transparent. But he I always tell him, I'm like, honey,
not vinegar. You know, he's vinegar all day.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Vinegar me.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'm like, I try to just soften the blow a
little bit, but he's just like, no, like they need
to know.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
This is how it is, this is how it is.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
He also has a lot of sons though, so I
think that maybe and he's softer on the girls. But yeah, yeah,
I mean there's no rate to really there's there's no
way to really tell there is.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I can just do the best that I can. That's
a fact. And that's what I would encourage you to do, Like,
do what naturally feels good. Do what makes your daughter
happy in this moment. Like right now you're exclusively breastfeeding.
I see you've been working hard at that. That is
no easy feet. Look at the jazz you got teens y'all. Yeah,
when she came in to the driveway and I gave

(38:02):
her a hug, I was like, oh, we got t
stead of touching. This is amazing. I love that for you.
Yours mine is like powdered. Now yours is liquid. It's okay,
though the consistency has changed. But I just love to
see you like step into this motherhood energy. So based
on how your parents parented you, how do you know
that you're gonna make it different for your daughter? Like,

(38:24):
are there anything that you're intentionally gonna do differently? To say,
you know what, this didn't work for me growing up
as a young lady. So I'm going to make sure
that I do this with my daughter.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Oh, I ran all over my mom. My mom was
so naive. I just knew that, Like all I had
to do was check in. Hey, Mammy, I may want
your life. Yes, he Even till this day at my
big age, she still has her location or my location
on her phone because she just wants to know, Like
she s like, I'm gonna have that with my boys,
you know, like she just wants to know, just are

(38:54):
you all right? So she would look at it and
just seem I'm at the house, or she'll be like,
yas it's late, I see you're.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Not at home. Are you all right?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
You know, like, yeah, she just wants to know it.
And I always just let her know that I was okay.
And as long as I did my check ins and
I let her know that I was okay, it was
pretty much free game. Right once I figured that out. Terrible, So, like,
I feel like, you're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Doing more than checkings. You're gonna be pulling up on
sis oh cis tracker on the car. You know.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I feel like I would be I would be a
little bit more strict, yeah, but not to the point
where It's like when she turns eighteen, she's a girl's gone.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
We're also stifling her, you know, yeah too, Yeah. I
think kids need that balance of like discipline, but also
that open line of communication which is super important, Like
you never want her to be too scared to come
and tell moms something like because then they try to
like do things on their own and make decisions on
their own. It's like that constant balance of trying to
empower them to be their own people and they get
their own decisions. But it's like, as an adult, haven't

(39:53):
been through it?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
You can ready, I'm not going Yeah, three months that
far ahead?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Right. What's surprised you the most about motherhood so far?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
It's a love that I've never known. It's like like
we were talking about I'm a lover, right, and I
was like, Okay, how much more can I really love somebody?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Like? Right? You know, because it's like.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Cam is the greatest love I've ever known, Right, So
I was just like, it's going to be more than that,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, what makes that the greatest love you've ever known?
Is it? That? Is it being reciprocal love on a
deeper level face off of what you've It's just love
on a.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Deeper level than I've ever experienced, you know, somebody to
really choose me, you know, and like just like just
it's funny because the thing that my parents loved about
him was like, oh my gosh, Jazz, Like he takes
you everywhere. He just shows you off, like it doesn't
matter where he's going. It used to be times he's like,

(40:54):
oh yeah, I got to go here, and I'm like, okay,
well just let me know where you're done.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
He was like, you're coming with me? Like what you
mean right, I'll be like, oh my god, Like I'm
proud of you, you my girl.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, like what you know, just introducing me in the
highest regard, like always having respect for me, like whoa
you know, and like my parents like when I when
I found out that meant allowed to them, it was
like wow, and then I just wasn't really used to that,
you know what I mean. So just just connecting with
someone on a very deep life, you know, after being
hurt and after going through breakups.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
And oh yeah yeah you know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
So like once I had her, it was like, oh,
this is what they talk about.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Very different, very different. Yeah, how much does people's perception
of you, now that your mom, now that you have
a partner, a life partner, how much just people's perception
of you alter your reality? Does it matter? At this point?
It just doesn't matter. Now.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
It's like I don't even care about social media, Like
I'll pop in every now and then, you know, just
to like do some mommy stuff or just hey guys,
I'm still alive, or like talk about breastfeeding, or.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
But it's like, now.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Everybody used to know what I ate for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, and who cut me off on the side
of the road, or what I bought from Walgreens or
how this person was acting or what was my experience here.
Now it's just like I really enjoy my privacy. I
really enjoy you not knowing what I'm doing. I really
enjoy you not knowing the dynamic of me and my man.
I really enjoy POW. I reached out about like a
reality show for the two of us, and I was like, oh, yeah,

(42:25):
I would like never, absolutely not. I was like no,
I'm like, first of all, he's way too private. I'm like,
you know, it just it just wouldn't right, it wouldn't work.
And I enjoy that. Nobody knows what our thing is.
They don't even know how we interact because we don't.
We don't show it right, you know, and people look like, oh,
he doesn't post you or he doesn't even follow you,
and it's like, it's.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Crazy that girl, Isn't it crazy how people's real world?
It's really caught up in this abyss of social media,
Like if it doesn't happen on social media, like it
it's the craziest thing. It's not really, it's not really.
He doesn't follow you, he doesn't post you. Funny, funny
story because you know Crystal of course. Yeah, shout out
to Satima. Yeah, coming back at some point, we hope,

(43:08):
because they keep moving the goalposts on when the next
season is coming out, and I'm sitting over here waiting
if baited breath to see what's happening, because if that
won't tell me anything about the storyline, I like to
watch it in real time, so I don't know what's
happening that. I love that, so I like to watch
it in real time. But anyway, shout out to the
team and shout out to Crystal Haslet. But yeah, it
was funny. One there was like apparently, and I don't
I'm not on Twitter, so I don't know. But apparently

(43:30):
there was like a big thing because you know, everyone
wants to pin me in Crystal against each other for
whatever reason. I don't know. Yeah, that's again social media space,
like oh work, why versus real life. She's better with
who literally like our sister, like good friends, like all
up in our house, vice versa. But anyway, again real
life versus social media. So to your point, but if

(43:52):
it doesn't happen on social media, it don't happen according
to people who live on social media. So October last year,
my uncle pats away on the fourth, and Christmas birthday
was like two weeks after that, the seventeenth. That yeah, yeah,
all right, sixteenth or seventeen, So her birthday came up,
and I was in the rut, of course, my uncle
had just passed. I really wasn't posting much on social media.

(44:14):
I think I had like a couple collab posts with
deval Or, like work related stuff that I was obligated
to post, but I really wasn't doing anything. I think
I might have just like was gonna hiatus for a
whole month. I think I remember that, Yeah, and then
her birthday came around and one of her friends was
organizing something reached out and said, hey, kay, I know
you have a lot going on right now, but just
wanted to let you know that we're doing this for
Christmas birthday. If you're free and you're up to it,

(44:34):
come through. And literally was not in the moved to
go anywhere the entire month, but I'm like, you know what,
that's my girl. Let me go show up for her birthday.
So there was a birthday dinner at her friend's house.
We were there, we took pictures, we hung out the
night and everything, and it was just what I needed
in that space, you know, to kind of get a
break from the grief. And we had such a great
time that night. She never posted a picture. I never
posted a picture. I never posted a happy birthday Crystal
Instagram story or whatever. And people were literally clocking my

(44:57):
page and was like, well, Kadida, it post Crystal for
her birthday and it's fake love, and it's fake love,
and I'm just like here, I was loving on her
in real life, but y'all idiots over here, I want
to talk about the love being fake because it wasn't
for y'all, and it wasn't performative on social media. Yeah,

(45:18):
it's shopped that And it's just amazing how people really
get caught up in this alternate universe, like social media
is not a real place. It's really not a real place.
And people are like, like you and I are out
here loving in real life, showing up in real life,

(45:40):
and I'm calling I'm not posting Jazzy be like, oh,
congratulations with the baby. I'm calling you to say, Sis,
I know what them first couple of days, and I
know what it's like trying to get back with my
man in a good space intimacy wise, after having a baby, Like,
there's so many moving parts in real life that needs
to be addressed, and when you really connect and relate
with someone on that kind of level, people can't even

(46:01):
understand it. So you know what you do? You let
them rock, Yeah, you let them fight amongst themselves, right,
because y'all can take the time to do all that
on your own because we know what it is in
real life, right, Isn't that crazy? It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
It's just like y'all because it's always it always goes
back to my relationship, Like, oh, y'all, it's funny because
I was reading an article they were like, yeah, they
got together in twenty twenty one. Your facts are wrong.
Where did you even get that? Like we were actually
together before that. People just like you guys don't.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Know y'all don't know nothing. You really don't know nothing.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
It's like you just piece together things and like, okay,
this sounds like it could be true.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Okay, I saw this this here, all right, let's put
this here.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's like you try to puzzle piece people's lives, right,
but it's like we're putting out what we want you to.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Oh yeah, for sure, and from what they see then
they create a whole narrative around it that.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yes, usually, but it's like you don't know usually faults,
you don't know nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
So with all that being said, that's your maintaining a
space that is healthy for your daughter, your children, your
life partner. What do you think is your guiding principles
for like maintaining a loving relationship, Like what does Jazzy
want moving forward when she sees herself as life partner mother,

(47:14):
bonus mom? What does that look like for you? Man?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
You know what, we have a big sing in our
house where we say lead with love.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
There's lead with love.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Like I was talking to one of my friends on
the ride over here and I was like, you know,
when I became a mom, Like, I don't know what
I was doing. I've never was like you leave the
hospital and it's like, wait, it's just gonna be us.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Wait what do you mean, I don't hold on like,
no nurse to call bell that all that.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I'm just like, wait a minute, I was like, but
I was like, I didn't know what I was doing.
I just know that I just lead with love. You
figure it out, that's it. So when your heart is
in the right place and you lead with love, everything
else just kind of falls into place. And that's just
what I do.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
I believe it's not scripted. Like I'm just a very thoughtful,
caring person.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
These are other people's words, not mine, But I'm just
extremely thoughtful.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
But that's who you are. It is. So it's just
people can't change that.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
If I know that this is your favorite and I'm
out and I see something that I know that you
would love, I'm going to come home with that because
you know what I mean, if I have access to
getting it, like it could be like a pack of
em and MS or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I'm gonna come back with it and be like, oh
I saw these.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
And whatever whatever just my love language, or it's like
I want you to feel special, Like he was away
for work for some time, and when he came home,
like I had like a welcome home banner for him,
Like I had like this, like you know, I had
some goodies for him and stuff like that, because like you.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Had some goodies and some good I want to supplied
the milk for the cookies. I want them to feel special.
I want want them to fill loved.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
And I think that my love language is words of affirmation,
and my, oh my gosh, mine is all of them.
Words of affirmation, physical touch, acts of service, those like the.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Main three, the main three.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Well mine is just okay, I see you're running out
of your favorite uh body wi right.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
That's me. I'm gonna replace it. Yeah, I'm like that too.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, Like I see, like before you can even ask
favorite meals like any little you don't. Ever, he ain't
never gonna say, hey, babe, can you get some more
of that is already there. I'm gonna be like, oh,
it's a matter of fact, Oh it's empty already hold on,
I just got to another one here, let me pull
it off. Or when I see something running low and
I see him in the shower and I'm looking on
his side of the other shower and I see his

(49:32):
favorite low mouth wash just running low. It's replaced before
he even takes the last gargle, Babe, Like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
That girl, right, you know what I'm saying. And that's
how that girl and that's how I live.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
And that's how I am. Lot The kids too, Yeah,
oh they would love this. Oh matter of fact, Oh,
this is something that they would like or whatever it is,
you know what I mean, Like, Okay, I'm gonna do
this special thing because like I think about them. Yeah,
and it's like back to you know people who are like,
oh you' how could you be with someone who has
so many kids.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
It's like they're amazing. They're so amazing. I love that
they really are. I love that they really are. And
I'm sure they love on you just as much. Because
one thing children are gonna do. They don't feel it.
Yeah you're gonna say it, yeah, and they'll act accordingly. Yeah,
you know, so children, children and dogs, animals, children and
animals will know good people. Yeah, so you know, and

(50:25):
it's funny. I'll watch my children if they kind of
stay away from certain people or their energy, or you
get a baby to somebody baby start crying. I'm like,
not gonna look at you sideways, because I mean, your
heart ain't right. You know.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
It's like, if I know everybody loves boba, like before,
you can't even ask me to get back the kids
this week. We already got yeah, and you don't even
have to tell me the one that you like because
I know nobody. Like I had surprise them one day
and came back with boba and one of them was like,
did you.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Get the one? I'm like, of course I did. Of
course I did. As I said. I'm like, yeah, come on,
I love that I know the one that you like.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
And the thing is, I'm such a stickler too, so
it's like, you know, say, for example, this one don't
like ice and this one does. It's like, I'm gonna
remember that you don't like ice in your you know
what I mean, Yep, and totally get it.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
And that's just that's the way.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Even when it's fixing plates, everybody likes their plate different
certain kind of way. You don't have to tell me
you don't jazz is on it. Yeah, I know who
don't like cheese? Who like those intolerance? Who wants I
I know who want wants to.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Dish that ketchup? I know who wants to ketch up
on the burger? I know no, But that's that's how
it's five of me. I know, I get it.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
And they're all different, right, And so it's like, so
when you take the time to know their personalities and
know how they eat, and especially if I'm the one cooking,
it's like, it's just paying attention to details, details and
what you love to do, because that's me, that's you.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
You're not asking nobody else to be that. That's just
who you are. What's a jazz? You know what's funny
as I wrap up the conversation or the meat of
the show with you. When I got to meet you,
I think it was in La with Kendle on time.
We were hanging out and we just had the best
night out. The four of us were sitting chitting and
chaturth and whatnot. You did remember it was a it

(52:08):
was a whole thing. That conversation I remember was a
whole thing. And then just seeing you over the course
of our different interactions and stuff, and then you getting
on as a team and whatnot. It's funny because I
think I felt victim, which I think a lot of
people do when they see someone on social media and
their persona, they expect when you see them in person

(52:28):
to be that person. And it was actually very refreshing
when I got to just talk with you on just
like a very regular level, because I'm just like, you're
just like a cool ass person, like super sweet, super
down on Earth. Knows who you are, and as you
continue to grow into who you are, me being a
big aged forty year old woman, I just want to

(52:50):
encourage you to just continue to exist as you have been,
being like a strong woman, being an amazing mother. So far.
I've seen the way you've been loving on your daughter,
just even in the short time that we've been together
here pre show making sure that she's okay. The way
you're attentive to her, you're attentive to your family. I
just love that for you, Jazzy. And one thing I'm
always going to do is celebrate women in this space

(53:12):
because we're all different, we're all wired differently, we require
different things, we offer different things, and I just want
to speak life into you in this moment and just
lets you know that you listen. I don't don't start
crying now, because okay, you can cry, I know how
like the hormones is still, like you know, all over
the place. But I don't think enough we do that
as women, just celebrating who each person is, for their

(53:36):
individuality and for their uniqueness. Too many times we're in
spaces and arenas and these virtual spaces that are social
media platforms where we just everyone's tearing each other down
to make themselves feel better about their mediocrity. You're not
going to do that, well, you're not gonna do it
on that as podcast, you know what I'm saying. But
it's just people are in spaces where they are unhappy

(53:58):
with who they are with their space and life, whatever
they're doing, or their level of mediocrity, that they want
to tear other people down. And I won't allow that
all my watch, not here as we sit together on
a date with K. So continue doing what you've been doing, Jazzy,
Do what makes you happy. Continue to lead with love,
as you've said, because look how far it has gotten
you to this point. And I only see greater things

(54:18):
moving forward as you go to film next week, more
your back on the tema you filmed while you were pregnant. Yes,
what was that? Like? Real quick before we go and break.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
You know what's funny they said to me, that's how
we knew you were valuable. Instead of like shortening my
my episodes, they got a body double for me.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Wow, and they were like, Jazz, you have a body double.
They're like yeah. They were like, oh, he has fires.
GP loves you. He called me and was like, hey,
how are you feeling.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I was like i feel good and he's like, okay,
I'm riding as a teama like do you feel good?
Like do you want to be in the season? I'm
like absolutely And then you know that and he was
like okay. He' said okay, don't worry about anything. We're
gonna work it out. And then they had a body
double for me. But the fact that he even called
me as he was riding it just to see what
headspace I was in.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
That's so indicative of who he is. Yet, No, it
really is, It really is.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
And I was just like, of course, I was like
I'm ready to work because obviously like being pregnant.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
It's like I needed to get back to something that
really really made like happy. That meant like it was
felt like yes, and I had a great pregnancy. But
still I was like, yeah, it can be taxing, especially
how they film over there at TPS.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
So I get it, but I wanted to like but
I just thought it was just very beautiful.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
That was beautiful. And if you haven't seen Caught Up,
oh yeah, everybody about it. We couldn't talk about it
when the strike was happening, and that's when it launch
was a BT plus because baby, the minute I knew
it was coming out, it is such a good series.
If you haven't watched yet, I remember telling my sister
about it my friends and they were like, yo, we
want more, and I'm like, you gotta come back season

(55:46):
till you write me and it is your cousin, I
do something. You know what I'm saying. Do what you
gotta do. But if you can come back on season two,
we're gonna like have to put up a petition. And
if you haven't watched Caught Up yet, you have to
catch it on b ET plus because it's such a
good show and you did an amazing job. I love
the representation of their Indian parents. Like everything was just
really really gay about that show, and I was locked in.
So I'm hoping and I'm putting out there in the

(56:07):
atmosphere that you're gonna get a season two and beyond.
We don't have to work on that.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Writer and executive producer and star baby period.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Give her all the titles, all the accolades, everything, all
right now, Well, since you got all of them titles,
come paties bills with me real quick. We're gonna take
a break and then we're gonna come back and we're
doing one quick listener letter while the baby is still
nice and quiet with me.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Me.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
We're gonna see what they're talking about this week, so
stick around. All right, we're back. We fed some babies,
some lip glos songs, use the potty, you know, refreshed

(56:47):
and ready to go. We also notice that we both
have matching French pedicures. Yes we do. Okay, cute toe gang.
I love that, all right, y'all, So we're gonna dive in.
I have Jazzy here, who's gonna sit with me through
y'all business. Okay, are we going to get into one
of the things? Do you know because we had a
lot to talk about. So we'll do one just to
keep with the theme of doing listener letters. Hey, blessings

(57:09):
and positive vibes to you both. I'll get straight to it.
Love that I just found out my partner has been unfaithful.
We have a one and a half year old child together,
and I don't know how one moves forward from this.
This child deserves a family, but my heart is shattered
and I cannot fathom how this will work out for us.
He claims it was a one time thing and he's

(57:29):
cut all communication. I want to be able to move
forward from this, but I'm truly not seeing the light
right now.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Any advice, oh child, go and give your married woman advice,
and now I'll give you.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I'll give you one. Right, So I found out my partner,
so partner maybe not married, one year old child. You'd
like to go back and decipher, like break it down
and I'll see what actually is happening here. Well, first off,
having the conversation with someone who's been unfaithful sometimes you
got to get to the root of what exactly was

(58:03):
going on. Now, this is not saying that either party
was right nor wrong, because I feel like when people
make the decision to step out of a relationship, whether
that's a marriage or just a committed relationship, it's a choice.
I know some people say that, oh, there's a mistake.
You know what was gonna say? I didn't mean to
there was intent, there was a choice, so it happened.

(58:23):
I think it's up to you at this point now
to really decipher was this a one time thing. Are
you with a habitual cheater or was this a moment
where you were with someone where you know they made
a wrong choice for whatever the reason may have been,
and the choice behind or the reason behind this choice,
is it something that you feel like you guys can
bounce back from. So it's really it's hard to say,

(58:46):
and it's hard to give, you know, advice in situations
like this because you really don't know too much of
the backstory of how we arrived at this. What do
you think? Because have you been cheated on before? For sure?
All right? And have you cheated on someone yes? Absolutely? Okay,
So what would be your advice to her? Especially just
having a one and a half year old too. I

(59:06):
know that a lot of times you know that new
baby feel and she ain't quite right, it ain't like
how it used to be. Intimacy.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Maybe she's blaming herself too, you know, because like you said,
we don't really have too much backstor we don't know
if he's been cheating, been lying, been doing all the things.
I don't know that It's interesting because I think that
I was having a conversation with somebody and they were saying, like,
you know, back in the day, like our parents and
our grandparents, like they fought for every reason to stay together.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Now these days they look for every reason to leave. Ooh,
you know what I mean. That's a good point. So
it's like everybody's so quick that throwing a towel.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
And I'm not saying, you know what I mean, if
you want to leave, hey, yes, that's your business. But
I think that, like you said, like getting to the
root of the issue and really finding out what's really
going on or whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
I do know that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Women naturally are we are monogamous creatures, you know, But
I know, I do believe everything is a choice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
But I do, you know, feel like men have a
little bit more of that, like like they got a scratch,
that they got a scratch, you know what I'm saying, However,
discipline men are disciplined men. I don't know what their
relationship is, Like I don't know, and then not to
justify anybody's actions or behavior, but I do know that

(01:00:31):
they're I think the cheating there's levels. I think there's
emotional cheating, physical cheating. Sometimes that emotional could be weighing
more detrimental than they is, because it's like and harder
to break off.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yes, like do you would you rather him just like
have sex with somebody that he doesn't really.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Know, like one off and never talk to him again,
or someone like who's making him laugh and sending him
like good morning and knows his favorite snack, like you
know what I'm saying? Yeah, which which one was it right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
He says it's you know, it's a mistake. He'll never
do it again, Like, which which one was it right?
Because like men know how to detach themselves from their penis,
like their mind.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
That's what I've heard too, Yeah, you know, having several
conversations with deval or just other men, it's like they
can compartmentalize it a lot, whereas women maybe can't. Right,
So it's just like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
You hear cheating, You're like, oh my gosh, she guta
say it with another woman like a but it's like
he can literally like have zero feelings for that person.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
It's wild.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Yeah, and again I don't know the situation. I don't know,
but like you said, I would get to the root
of it. I don't think that. I mean, of course,
in the initial is like, oh my gosh, we'll never
be together.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Right, Like it's especially having a one year when it's like,
you know, she's still postpartum, she's still doing it with
all the things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
And it's like, you guys have a child, so regardless
if you leave him or not, he's still gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Parenting is going to be. It's inevitable, exact inevitable. It's
interesting you brought up you know, our parents generation or
even our grandparents where it's just like, damn y'all don't
fight through anything. But the converse side of that is
that damn y'all stuck around through anything too, you know.
So it's really boiling down to what you said. It's
deciphering what's worth holding on to, what's worth working through

(01:02:15):
and if your heart is just not in it because
there's no coming back, Like some people just have some
non negotiables, you know, and you really have to ask yourself,
like what is my non negotiable? What am I not
willing to tolerate? And he's going to have to respect
that whatever that looks like for you. But also to time,
Time does heal, Time does bring clarity. Time allows you

(01:02:38):
to assess the situation outside of rage and fury when
you kind of settle in it and you have those
conversations and it may not want be one conversation or two,
it may be several for you to really understand, like,
what was the root of this choice that he made here?
Was it something that you know was faltering on his side?
You know, was it something faltering on my side? Again,

(01:02:58):
not placing blame on hither person and for why it happened,
because the choice was the choice. But a lot of
times when you're in a committed relationship, it is sometimes
worth it if you feel like you want to stick
it out to really get to the root of the
issue because there was something else going on here that
drove to that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
And really and you know, create a safe space for
your partner to talk to you, because like that saved
Vali lots.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
And that's the real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
It's like what if what if he just didn't have
nobody to talk to him and became you know, started
talking to this person and she heard him out because
every time he tries to talk to you, you you
fussing and arguing and he's not a safe space for him. However,
that can be like, oh, you're taking a man's side.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
It's just that I'm just trying to see how this
thing could have happened. And if you guys are going
to talk about it and either resolve or break up
a conversation, it's worth having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yeah, still worth knowing. And I feel like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
You should be able to talk without fighting. You can
have heated discussions, but like like lets some time go
by and calm yourselves down and then really talk about it.
But also like really hear the person out, don't just
listen like I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Let me hear what you have to say. Okay, you
fuck me? Okay? And yeah, and I was at work
like no, like like really listen, like really listen and
understand trying to see you know what, maybe I can
understand why it came across that way, or why you
proceed it that way or how you arrived at this destination. Yeah,
whenever the Valan I have like disagreements and stuff, he

(01:04:24):
normally is just like, well, listen to how I feel
and understand how I feel, and how I feel is
how I feel. Don't try to persuade persuade me to
feel any differently. But for me, I'm always like, but
I need you to understand how I arrived at this,
this this thought like why did I do the things
I did? There's a reason behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
And you know what's interesting because the times that I've
cheated was aut of retaliation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
So you weren't the cheatya. Initially you weren't the cheat.
You were just cheating as a No, not like you're
you cheated, I'm gonna cheat back. It's more like it's
there's just some things that you need and like, Okay,
I'm just gonna just paint a picture. I'm not not
saying this is what happened with me, but just say like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
You crave for your partner to tell you that you're beautiful.
You've told them time and time again. I need words
like I need you to tell me these things. I
need you to tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
He don't do it. Don't do it don't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Somebody I show John or whoever tells you like wow,
like you're really beautiful, like I really like your today
or whatever, and it feel like, oh my gosh, that void.
So this is what in my relationship we always call
like crevice. That's when that crevis got you know what
I mean, like creating And it could start off innocent
and then it's your line fracture. Oh yeah, somebody somebody

(01:05:45):
notice is something about you that your partner didn't notice,
and then you're just like you just want to be seen.
And then it's just like you just want to feel sexy,
you want to feel womanly. And then it's like, of
course he'll fuck you. We I mean like it's not
too many men, it's not gonna you know, you getting
that at lacking right, So it's just that thing. So

(01:06:05):
it's like you have the conversation, okay for a woman
steps out and it's just like I just needed to feel,
you know, And it's like as a man, I'm sure
it's hard for them to take that accountability and say,
you know what, you're right, I wasn't telling you that
you look beautiful. I wasn't doing those things or whatever,
and you accept your fault in their action, not justifying it,

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but hearing the person out. Now back to her, whatever
that thing is, find out what that thing is, you know,
and it might not be nothing. It might have just
been a one time thing, but I think it's worth
finding out and really like getting to know how somebody feels.
And the minute that you show somebody it's safe over here,

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they'll continue to talk to you. And that's what you want,
especially if you want to have longevity with a person
and even co parenting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Y'all, communication gotta be right. So either way in the
way I go back, which for you twisted, you gonna
have to talk to that man so big big is
gonn unfold? Yeah exactly. Oh my god. It's some pretty
good advice. Thanks Jazzy so much for that, and I
hope that things work out for you. Sis set us
a follow up, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes when

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we have too little, we have to paint a picture again,
Like we talked about that, painting a narrative around, just
like a little piece of information. But then I said
that to say, the second listening letter was like about
two miles long, and I'm like, I ain't reading that
right now? How could I ask y'all for more information?
You give me more information. I'm just like, Okay, we
don't want to read it today, but no, we're gonna
probably push this listening letter to another episode, which is

(01:07:38):
all good when we have more time, because Jazzy and
I were just diving in talking all things perception, reality,
social media. You can do mom leading with love. You
like that one. I love that one. I'm gonna use
that one. But if you want to be featured as
a listener letter, please write into us at dead ass
Advice at gmail dot com. That's d E A d

(01:07:59):
A S S A d V I C E at
gmail dot com. So to round out the show, Jazzy, yes,
I can let you and your baby go, and we
dodged some traffic so you can get home, hopefully in
a short amount of time than it took you to
get here, hopefully. But we normally wrap the show with
something we call the moment of truth. And the moment
of truth is just essentially kind of like how we

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started with that SoundBite in the beginning. Now that we've spoken,
we've kind of flushed through the episode. We've gotten to
say how we feel what's the takeaway that you have
or something you want people to know that kind of
wraps up the conversation that we had today, and that's
normally our moment of truth time. I'll go first. I
think I have one my moment of truth after listening

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to you Jazzy, share your perspective, your story, how motherhood
has changed you, how you're not allowing your privacy to
be dismantled or infiltrated. Just know that when you are
experiencing someone in the social media realm, you are seeing

(01:09:02):
what they want you to see. And we should not
be judging folks for what we don't see or creating
narratives around who we think or what we think is transpiring.
And really, I think the focus should be a self
reflection on like who you are, and you think about
why you are projecting on other people and think about

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how that can really affect people in real life, in reality,
just based off of your perspective. So essentially, do you
let people do them and we can all be happy
and coexist together? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Too, It's like, really, in the culture, can't nobody mind
naby everybody want to be in somebody business?

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
For sure? Have you heard about this, I'll be like, no,
I have a new born. I don't know what's going on.
But then you have people that say, well, if you
don't want me in business, don't be putting ye business
out there. Well, baby, y'all want to just take the
situation and round. It's just like it's like one thing
I was trying to share and then now we were like, yeah,
another thing, you posting your baby?

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
If you go cover the phase because I'm excited about
being a mom bitch, that's fine period.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
And is that the moment of truth? Right? My moment
of truth is honestly, like you gotta give people grace. Yes,
give that's a good one. That's like an overarching topic,
including yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Give people grace, give yourself grace, because I've had to
learn to give myself grace through this process of like,
you know, I was talking to one of my friends
today and I was like, you know, my child is
like my purse and I don't leave home without it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
You know what I mean. It's like my American Express,
well like de vous American Express. Yeah, like the Amax
killer or like I said it before, time and time again, like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Your ID or your credit card or whatever you just
can't leave on what I was like, she gotta go
like wherever I go, Like I'm here with my baby
right now, you know, like she has to come Like
I gotta work tomorrow, she come in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Yeah, that's just what it is. It's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
And I had to just like give myself grace because
I'm like, I feel like I don't like feeling like
a burden on people. It's just like, n it's my child,
Like I don't I don't want you to have to
you know what I mean. Like like a little bit ago,
she was crying and I was apologizing to your mom, like,
oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Who made me know something about crying? Shall Yeah, yeah,
so it should. I get it. You just want to
make sure that she's good, especially as the first time.
You want to make sure that like you hear her cry.
It's like oh yeah, first off, if your ears go up,
start leaking, yep, and then you're just like oh anxiety. Yeah, well,
just know that you have a safe space here and
we family like literally, but also yeah, given myself family

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to No. I appreciate you. I just knew that once
we were going to have you on today that it
was going to be a little bit flexible. That's why
we put you at the end of the day. So
that way, if we stop for feedings and changings and
all that good stuff, you know that we were able
to make it happy. And I appreciate you because it's
not easy, you know, three months postpartum to pack up
and go anywhere. Okay, anyway, I know three months postpartum. Like,

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if you're not coming to me, I am not coming
to you. So I appreciate you for taking the time
to come and bring baby girl along. Now, tell everybody
what's next, Where they can find you, where they can follow,
Tell them what Tell them about Jazzy where we can
find Okay, Oh well, I don't know if I want
to be found. I like my I like my rock. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
However, however, if you're on social you can follow me
on Instagram at watch Jazzy. Also Satiama season one, two
and three, Yes, ma'am about to be filming season four and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Yes on the way okay, And obviously you can stream
my show Caught Up limited series as of right now
four episodes on BT plus, written and executive produced and
starring me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
So that's the Big one. Also, we need four more.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I know everybody's so good you'll have to watch it
really is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Yeah, it just just stay tuned. I might not post
a lot of these days, but when I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Do, you're gonna wanna You're gonna wanna be. I love that.
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