Call Her Daddy with Alex Cooper

Alex Cooper of the Call Her Daddy podcast joins Chelsea this week to talk about why keeping things offline with her boyfriend of two years has kept her relationship healthy, how her family keeps her grounded, and why staying in your lane is a thing of the past. Then: A college girl gets the ick when her boyfriend calls her Mommy.  A committed girlfriend struggles with her boyfriend’s overblown sex drive.  And a snooping partner discovers evidence of escorts - and it has her rethinking her relationship.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Katherine, Hello, Chelsea together, Oh my god, it's Los Angeles.
It's raining, and the whole everything is sliding down the hill.
I love the fucking rain, and I know it's not safe. Yeah,
but I fucking love when it rains. It's I love
it too, But like this fourth week, I was like,
I'm a little over it. I'm all done with us.
I'm not, but I understand it's not good for Californians

(00:22):
and that people are and obviously it's a serious dangerous situations.
So I obviously don't love the rain. And if I
had to choose to have the rain or not have
the rain, I would have to choose to not have
the rain. But then we're in a drought. Chelsea, I know,
but I just enjoy the sound of the pitter patter
and I just did so much moodier and it's like cozy.
I love it so much. It makes me I just

(00:44):
you know. Anyway, Hi, what's happening. What's new? Well, we
got to see all of the gals from ma Yorka
that we went to. God I couldn't go when was it?
Because I was well, I had the Critics Choice Awards,
so we had rehearsals Friday for that where I was
so excited. How did that go? Was amazing? I loved it.
I love dressing up like a little Barbie do you

(01:06):
and that red dresses everything. Yeah, it was actually hot pink.
It was like the color of your of your hair amazing,
well parts of the color of your like this little
strand up here. Yes. Um, yeah, it was really fun.
We had such a good time, my writers and I
that helped write the monologue or roll and everybody there
and then we went out after and yeah, it was

(01:27):
really fun. I had a great night. I'm so happy. Yeah,
it was funny to do actually good Yea. Usually I
don't like to do things like that because I'm like, oh,
that's gonna be a painting NAIs. Plus it was interrupting
my you know, Christmas. But you know, I just understood
that I'm I'm going to have to not and we
have to say yes to work when I yea, when
I have a snow way, I have to learn how

(01:49):
to not take four months off. Yeah, well we'll send
you back right, Yeah, I'm going back pretty. I'm actually
marrying my makeup artist from New York Mia. I'm marrying
her tomorrow to someone else, so to her fiance, and
I am the officiant for their wedding. She's like, and
I'm not sure how that happened exactly, but she told

(02:12):
me this weekend. Last week, I was in New York
doing some press. She told me that she assumed that
I have married a bunch of people already. And I
looked at her, and my sister was with us at
dinner or Shoshana, and we both looked at her and thought,
have you been listening to anything I've ever said? Why
would you think that I marry a lot of people?

(02:33):
You know? I can kind of see it as an
extension of like you get a lot of gay couples
engaged at your shows and things, right, and yeah, but
like this is a bigger level of responsibility. So Casey,
who is an assistant, he got me officiated online and
now I'm an efficient I can marry people. So please

(02:54):
don't put in request because it's not happening. I'm not
doing this again. This is a one off. Oh my gosh,
are you Are you a reverend? Are you I'm an officiate? Yes,
I'm a shaman. I'm a guy inecologist. I'm a shaman.
I'm a reverend. A reverend is good. That's kind of
like my speed great. I mean, I'm just fucking preaching
gospel basically all the time, right, yes, so many gospels. So, Chelsea,

(03:18):
we recorded this episode with our very fantastic guest a
couple of weeks ago, and you were a little under
the weather. So just so people know, that's why your
voice sounds a little different. Before I introduced our guest today,
I want to say that I was on a plane.
I was flying back from Boston, and I spoked a
lot of pop because I was tending to my sister
who had surgery and I was being a nurse and

(03:40):
that was stressful for Chelsea. So she smoked a lot
of pot. And then I have a very sensitive throat,
so I started coughing and I was like, okay, forget it.
Then I had shows and on the East Coast I
got on the plane Monday on Jet Blue. Thank god
I had my own little cubby hole area, because I
deteriorated on that plane ride like I had full blown aids.

(04:00):
I mean I was shivering, my back was thumping, I
was I was like hacking up a storm. Of course,
I had a mask on because I'm not a Republican,
and I just was like, oh my god, they may
have to ground the plane and take me straight to
the emergency room in Dubois or wherever we were flying over.
And I got off the plane went straight My driver

(04:21):
drove me straight to my doctor's office. He goes, don't
come inside. Meet me in the alleyway because he's like,
I have to test you for RSB, COVID and the
flu that's going around. I'm like, I had the flu shot.
He goes, it doesn't matter, everyone's got it anyway. I
ended up having the flu. I'm on my fifth day
of antibiotics, so I'm no longer infectious, which is upsetting
for me because I wanted to give you something when

(04:42):
you got here. Well, I have something, so I'm gonna
give it to you. Okay, what do you have. I'm
just kidding. I'm kidding. I actually got COVID for the
first time the other week. Oh you did that after
I saw you at that party. Yeah, yeah, I got
it from you room. Your friend gave me the mushroom.
She gave my boyfriend the mushroom. Okay, this is al
sandraw Cooper. Everybody, Okay, you know her from Call Her Daddy,

(05:04):
which is the number one podcast in all of the globe. Okay,
it's probably more popular than Joe Rogan's podcast, Honey, hang
Out with You More um, And she put herself on
the map in a major, major way. Because you know
what's so funny. The first time I met Alexandra, I
didn't know who the funk she was and I should

(05:25):
let me know it. Yeah, well, my publicists were like,
you have to go do Alexandra Cooper's podcast. It's the
biggest podcast in the world. She just got this huge
podcast deal. Blah blah blah blah. I go, sure, whatever,
and I go to her house and the whole time
she's like, do you even know who I am? I'm like, well,
I mean no, but stop saying that, Like, I can't lie.

(05:45):
I'm not going to pretend it was like the awkward
girl who was like fan girl in that Chelsea. I
was stoned. I had my sunglasses on. I was like, listen, girl,
we can't we don't have time for this fan girl, Like,
let's get down to business. And then throughout the hour,
I was like, oh, okay, can see why this girl
is popular and she's fun and then I've been able
to watch your success and run into you a few

(06:06):
times that I do really like you. Thank you. I
like you too. You're in a very very solid relationship,
you said the other day when I saw you at
the Amphire of Them for two years. Right, it's shocking.
I'm so proud of myself. It's been good because the
toxicity was running through my veins in college and out
of college in the New York City, like I was
just trying to ruin guys live. And then I got

(06:26):
over it and I was like, toxic is now actually
boring to me because it's the same thing every time.
And then I found healthy and it's good. How did
you find that? I found that because I feel like
I was just ready, Like I wouldn't have been ready
if it I wouldn't have found healthy if I wasn't healthy.
I got into therapy. Well there's the answer for all

(06:47):
of us, right, And sometimes you don't want to be
in therapy because you're like I want to keep spiraling,
like this is better for content, this is better just
for me, and generally keep living in the dark. And
then I woke up and I was like, all right,
I guess it's time I figured out, well, that's good.
I mean, listen, I didn't figure my ship out until
I was like forty. But I think when you're an
artist or a creative, you think all the bad ship

(07:09):
is helpful for your material. Like I remember doing stand
up and anytime I broke up with somebody's when I
was just crushing it because I could just go off
on that relationship. And then you've come to a point
where you're like, well, no one's gonna date me anymore.
And then you're like, but who gives a fund? Because
I don't want to date anybody anyway. But then you know,
you come to grips with the idea that like it's

(07:29):
so exhausting to be in something that requires so much energy.
You know, like you don't need drama or bad ship
or toxicity in your life to create good stuff. You
can do that. It's like when fat comedians lose weight
and they're like, well are they still going to be funny?
You're like, what you're talking about, Like that's our only bit,
Like like you got funny because you're fat. That's not

(07:51):
the way it works anyway. So tell us a little
bit about your for lack of a better word journey
into podcasting, into the situation that you're in, Like, how
did everything start dapping? If you excuse me, Oh my god,
I just got the flu end COVID. At the same time,
Chelsea just looked me dead in the eyes. We made
eye contact and she just burped a cough on. Because

(08:13):
I have to be completely honest, I'm wearing a Maxi
shield right now because I cough. This cough I have
is so bad that I said to my housekeeper, and
we only speak Spanish, I'm like, tenemos Maxi shield. No,
you know what she sounds like. It's when you have
like a cough coming and you're holding your breath in
your throat and you're trying to talk. It's been since

(08:34):
I walked into the room, So why don't I just podcast?
You sit over there, you just take a little break.
I haven't, and I funcs. It's fucking disgusted. And every
time I was out, I was getting my color done
last night and I coughed so hard and then I
got up. I was like, is that you're in tripping

(08:54):
down my leg? And I got up. Luckily they're two
gay men, so I didn't have to be ashamed and
I said, you got I need you to get me
my pea coat because I can't walk out of the
salon like this because I've urinated all over myself. And
they both looked at each other, got my coat and
didn't even say goodbye to me. They were both like,
fuck off, get out of here. But so now, because

(09:15):
of this crazy cough, I have to wear a Maxi
shield because urine is just going to come out. A
Maxi shield that's shielding the rest of the world from
my urine. I wouldn't judge you, but like behind your back,
I would. Yeah, I'm judging me in front of us,
both of us. Your pants, Well, that sounds like it's next.
By the way, did you hear that putin shout his pants?

(09:37):
I putin fell down the stairs, Good for you, your
fucking asshole, and then shot his pants. Yes, I love
I love stories about people shooting their pants, especially that guy.
It's great. Okay, So back to you. The journey, the journey,
the journey. Yeah, so I mean it's it's I can
keep it quick. It was I was out of college.
I was on unemployment, text trying to figure my did

(09:58):
you go to Boston University? Was just a Boston, buss
is my favorite city. I love it. It was so
good for college too. I feel like New York you
think you would want to go there, and then you're like, well,
I don't want to be in college in New York City.
So Boston was perfect because I had all of the colleges.
And then that's where the professional athletes came in because
they were like, oh the city, and it was great.
It was just a perfect opportunity for me to really thrive.

(10:20):
I got out of college and I had this awful job.
I was in sales and it was for a magazine
and printice sucking Dying. So my boss is always like,
why can't you sell ship? I'm like, because who the
funk wants to buy an advertisement in a magazine like bitch,
this is dinosaur ages. So I was really unamused by
my job, miserable, and I was just typing up scripts

(10:40):
every day, like, wanted to start a YouTube channel, want
to do something in the creative field. My dad's in
sports television. I majored in film and television and then
I'm at a fucking ad agency. But that's usually how
it goes, Like you gotta get a job you hate
and finally I got fired and it was incredible. Everyone
was crying the day we all got laid off, and
I was like crying tears of happiness, just be because

(11:00):
I hated my job so much. But I didn't have
the balls to leave because I couldn't financially just be
like I'm gonna leave and go like I don't come
from a trust fund, like I had to have a job,
so I'm on unemployment checks. And I was going to
start a YouTube channel for my in Boston in New
York now in New York, and then I wanted to
start a YouTube channel call her Daddy was now an
idea and I was going to do it as YouTube channel.

(11:22):
And then some people were like, you should do a podcast.
It's not oversaturated like YouTube right now, especially with the
way you talk. All right, listen to this. You should
have been born with a podcast. I literally came out
of the room and like, I I should have had
a microphone in front of me because I could never
stop talking. My mother's always like shut the funk up,
like your other siblings speak absolutely not. So then I

(11:42):
just started the podcast. And I had really no plan,
like there was no business plan. I didn't know anything
about the industry. And after the first episode was uploaded,
Dave Portnoy from Barstool deemed me and was like, what
is this thing? Like what is going on here? Like
who made this promo? And I was like, oh, I
edited it to other like I edited myself. I went
to film school and then I went in for meeting.

(12:03):
Dave Portnoy signed me and the show went like number
one on episode four and it was wild and it's
it was like very aggressive start where I wasn't prepared
almost for the success. I understand. I'm so lucky. Sometimes
you have to work something for a very long time.
For me, it like it was uploaded and then it
was like, what the funk do I do now? There
was no plan, there was no vision, and so it

(12:25):
was kind of like a makeshift moment where every week
was just like trying to come up with a new
episode and a new concept and and then it just
got big and then I left Barstool, took my I
P and went to Spotify. It was pretty wild And
how long has that been? So I have a three
year deal with Spotify and I'm halfway into my second year,

(12:46):
so it's been pretty wild and it's been like a
pretty amazing experience. And do you have any interest in
like having a talk show? I don't even know what
It's quite crazy because if you asked me, I never
thought I would be a podcaster. Like I didn't know
that was even a fucking thing back in the day.
It'd be like my dad's hobby was to listen to
podcast and now I'm a podcaster, and so I don't know,

(13:08):
like I don't know if it'd be a talk show.
I don't know if it's going to continue. I think
I'm just making my show what I wanted to be.
Like I'm doing video now that's not a podcast technically,
but it is because I wanted to be, Like I'm
very stimulated by the visual aspect. Audio was never like
my passion, but it is how I got obviously. Well
it's kind of funny because it all turns into the
same thing anyway, you know, like podcasting was supposed to

(13:31):
be so it wasn't on the air, and then all
of a sudden, you're watching podcasts on YouTube and you're
watching them and now it's a TV show and you're like,
it's like all of media, you know, all these streaming
platforms are basically turning back into the three major networks
because they're all amalgamating. You know, Disney buys this, Warner
buys this, blah blah blah blah, Viacom buys this, and
we're basically getting right back to where we started. So

(13:53):
we have all these streaming platforms that are now going
to put commercials back on, so they're back to NBC,
ABC and CBS. It's all really stupid. It's like cell
phones came out. They were really small, then they got
really big, and then they got small, and now they're
like what the fuck. You know, I'm just waiting for
them to like come up with bundles of streaming services
and then it's just cable. Absolutely, you're right, it's a

(14:15):
great point, so tell us about and then now you're
in a normal relationship. I find that hard to believe.
It's it's it's very hard to believe. And I know
people on the internet which ship talk to me like
he doesn't exist. It's not he exists, he exists, thank you. Yeah,
it's really wild. I think that the reason it's so
normal is because I actually don't know. I need to

(14:38):
like think about this answer. I guess it's normal because
he's very normal. He grew up in l A. He's
very unaffected by just all of it because you grew
up around it, and he has no interest in it.
He's in the industry, but he's very private. So we
keep things offline, which I think is nice because my
relationship is not predicated on what other people think about us.

(14:59):
And I'm not like making decisions because I'm seeing comments
or I'm not using it to monetize my business. It's
a real relationship. And so if I don't like him,
I don't like him. Before I like him, I like him.
It's not going to be based off of something I
see on social media. And I don't even give a ship.
If you have a platform, like when people have a
hundred followers and you're posting your partner, it is affected,
you know what I mean? Like or how many comments

(15:20):
do we get? We can get into many likes on that,
like people are saying he's so hot, is are they
going to d M him? Or he's so ugly? Should
I dump him? Like? There's too much stimulation going on.
And so I think the crux of why it's healthy
is because it's as normal as I could humanly possibly
make it, and the only people that are influencing my
relationship is me and him. I like that. And what
would you say? I mean, I'm gonna ask you probably

(15:41):
a hard question to answer, but I think you probably
can because you seem to have a good, strong sense
of yourself, which I think is really admirable and I
wish all women would have, especially in their twenties. What
would you accredit your success and value in this podcast space?
What are your attributes that have gotten you here? And
why do you think you're so good at it? Thank you?

(16:02):
First of all. I mean, I think I feel like
I was very fortunate to be raised with a pretty
like normal, stable family, which I recognize that makes me
like not normal because most people's everyone's family ship is
family ship. But my parents were so obsessed with making
sure I was grounded, Like I think they knew I
wanted to be an entertainment my whole life, and they

(16:23):
kept being like, no, you're gonna go to college. No,
we're not going to go to auditions for you to
be an actress, like no, So they were making sure
that I was not getting ahead of myself and that
I was like focusing on what matter which was in
their minds, like education and having normal life and being
a good person and making me go to church every
fucking Sunday, And it was just a very I live.
Grew up in Pennsylvania, and so I feel like my

(16:44):
parents instilled the values of just like not getting affected
by all of the bullshit because they didn't let me
do certain things when I wanted to do it. On
top of that, I think sports honestly was like a
huge help towards me having this drive and grit and tenacity.
And also like the amount of people that say about
me on the internet, I don't know why doesn't affect

(17:06):
me as much as maybe it would other creators. I
think because of the absolute annihilation I received at playing
Division one soccer. It was like the hardest thing I've
ever done in my life, and getting basically like verbally
abused every single day by a coach and teammates and
the whole thing, like it just made me a very
strong person. So I when I came into this industry,

(17:27):
I'm very passionate about what I do. I think is
like why I'm able to stay grounded. I'm not doing
it for wrong reasons. I'm not doing it for fame
and money, Like I'm driven by the fact that, like
I've been obsessed with creating since such a young age,
and then just having support from my family and like
them literally hip checking me every day of like, no,
you sound fucking insane, like no, that you're being a brat,

(17:48):
and I'm like, I am, so I'm fortunate. I I
credit it really to my family. So you grew up
in Pennsylvania, And how many siblings do you have to
I'm the youngest, Okay, I'm the youngest too. Do you
have a boy and a girl, oldest sister and then
middle brother? And I also like that because you made
an announcement last year you were talking about becoming more
politically active and taking a stand for things that you
believe in. And I think with somebody with the size

(18:10):
platform you have, I think the thing that kind of
bugs me is when people, young people don't don't do that.
It irks me because we you know, you have so
much influence and so much power. So I just love
that you're standing up for things, and you know, for
human rights and for basic things that we should all
be standing up for. And it's not necessarily political to
stand up for human rights. It's kind of necessary. So

(18:33):
that's also another great thing. So on this podcast we
give advice to real people who call in, you know
a little bit about I'm excited. I love giving advice. Yeah,
so do I I can't get enough of it. I'm
just like, I overheard a conversation the other day. I'm like,
can I just chime in here? Okay? I was like,
you're not making any sense right now, and you're not

(18:53):
helping her. I'll help you and you get out of
this conversation. I was at the airport lounge in Well,
we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back
with Alex Cooper and Chelsea and we're back great. Well,
our first email comes from Bella. She's eighteen, she's a student.

(19:15):
The subject line is please help. He calls me mom
and can't get it up. Dear Chelsea, I'm eighteen and
in college and going out with this cool guy. For now.
Things aren't that serious, but we do drop the album
here and there. My problem is sometimes he says I
love you, mom, or just accidentally calls me mom. What

(19:35):
the hell am I supposed to think about that? I
know it's subconscious and he can't help it, but it
weirds me out. He has a really close relationship with
his mom after his parents got divorced, But the fact
that he calls his partner that on accident is strange. Right,
it's by accident, It's not on accident. Stops saying that everybody,
it's by things happen by accident. Nothing is on an accident.

(20:00):
Or am I overreacting? She's am I overreacting? Yes, it's
a fucking bad grammar. I can't take it. In addition,
he also has this problem with getting it up, and
he's eighteen too. I don't judge him, and I've always
made it clear that when it's us, he's safe and
in a safe space, but he seems young to be
facing this type of issue, right, I can't help but
overthink it. He smokes a ship ton of weed on

(20:22):
a daily basis, so maybe that's a contributor. But this
entire situation makes me feel unattractive, even though all my
friends tell me it's not my fault. Kindly, Bella, would
you like to take this from the time take this
number one? You're eighteen years old and all I heard
was you feel unattractive and this guy is calling you
his mom. Get the funk out. I don't I feel
like when you're at that point in your life, if

(20:42):
there's any doubt in your mind that something's off, leave,
You're too young, You've too much to do, you have
so many opportunities. It's so fucking weird. He's calling you
his mom. Sorry to anyone that refers to their partner
as their mother, he either wants to funck his mom.
There's something weird that went not like. I don't know.
I just don't think that's for you to uncover. I
think it's time for you to pack your stuff, find

(21:04):
someone that makes you feel attractive, and don't be called
someone's mom when you're trying to suck them. And unfortunately
you can't even suck him because he can't get hard.
We don't even need to judge him on that. But
you want to have some good sex in college, Like,
let's find someone that can suck and doesn't refer to
you as mommy. Yeah, there's plenty of guys who can
fuck that won't get it up, that won't call you mom,
you know. I mean, first of all, Bella, get out

(21:25):
of there. This is a waste of your time. This
is your prime, prime learning to have sex time in
your life. This is where you lay the foundation of
what you like, what you don't like. And you don't
like this. He's not getting it up. Calling you mom
is fucking weird. And you just exactly what you said.
You just said that you don't feel attractive. That's it,

(21:47):
You're done, goodbye. Find somebody who makes you feel hot, yes,
and and that can fuck you. I remember being a
kid and like once a year I would accidentally call
a teacher mom. That ended in sixth grade. He shouldn't
be eighteen and still called. But a teacher is different
because they're an authoritative figure. They're they're helping you learn,
they're giving you an education. Although teachers, whatever the point

(22:10):
is is your teacher is not sucking you, hopefully, And
I do feel as though there's nothing beneficial in this relationship.
You're not getting fucked and you're his mommy. You're not
a mom yet, you know what I mean? Those days
may come at one point, like leave them for later
on and for your children. Yeah yeah, And it's not
your job to fix him, no, no, no, no, learn yeah,
nip that in the bud, because listen, if you don't

(22:31):
learn this lesson now. Unfortunately, you'll have to learn it
over and over again, so let this be the first
and the last time. Yes. Well, our next question comes
from Rochelle, who is maybe one of the most angelic
sweet people I've ever talked to. She's twenty two and
she has kind of the opposite question. Dear Chelsea, I
hope all is well. I'm here reaching out for advice

(22:51):
on my boyfriend and I was sex life, My boyfriend
and my sex life. My boyfriend and my sex life. Yes,
we're both twenty two years old and have been together
for four years now. Last year we lived together in
Philly for over a year. It was amazing. We both
moved back home to our parents so we could save
some money, and eventually moved to a better location. We

(23:11):
live a couple hours apart. Our dilemma has been how
horny he often gets, and then many times a day
he attempts to initiate sex. Yes, I'm aware this is
not the worst problem to have. I've enjoyed our time
apart because of this. I want so badly to live
with him, but the thought of once again being asked
for sex every day infuriates me. It makes me feel

(23:32):
like I'm just a bunch of holes. I thought a
sex drive would lower after some time, but it's been
four years. We're planning our life together, and sometimes all
I can dream about is the happiness I'll feel when
we get old and he gets e ed. We spoke
to a therapist about this a couple of months ago,
and she mentioned giving me space to initiate it myself. However,
I've found that my sex drive seems to be much

(23:53):
lower and he does not have the patience to wait
for me to initiate. This makes me feel like a
shitty girlfriend for an not wanting sex as much as
he does, but I also feel like I'm dealing with
a desperate sixteen year old. This is our biggest issue
in our relationship. We've communicated so much and tried so
many different things. It's the only thing that makes me
wonder if we should actually be together and pursue a

(24:14):
life with one another, if we got married someday. Isn't
this something that could kill a marriage? Thank you for
reading Rochelle. Okay, first of all, can he go funck Bella?
Because Bella needs to get fucked and this guy's got
extra juice going right, right for Bella. We had a
previous caller before you and her boyfriend can't get it
up and calls her mom. So maybe we could just

(24:34):
do a swap. I think I could solve the problem.
Is this the person who was just asking a question.
I've never been on this show, Ladies, It's a pleasure
to meet you. I'm so sorry for your predicament. Thank you.

(24:56):
Do you want some advice? Yeah? Should I go first
for it? Okay? So I think this is the classic,
which I think is like, this will make you feel better.
No one has the same sex drive in a relationship,
and this is like a very common issue where two
people are on a different page with their sex life.
The issue is the person that wants sex more is
made to feel like the needy one is made to

(25:17):
feel like I want you all the time and feels
rejected because the person that doesn't have as high as
a sex drive is rejecting them. You, however, are like,
my vagina is going to fall off if we have
sex one more goddamn time. Please go jack off in
the bathroom. So I think it all comes down, in
my opinion, to communication. I don't feel like you should
be having sex in moments that you're not turned on

(25:38):
and you're not in the mood and you're just doing
it to appease him. But I also understand on his
his point of view is like, I'm attracted to my partner,
I want to have sex with my girlfriend, so I
would actually set a time. It's not after sex, it's
not before sex. It's at dinner, it's at breakfast, it's
at lunch, and you actually have a sit down conversation
and you start with a compliment of how much you

(25:59):
appreciate the relationship you have and all the things you
love about it. But then with regard to your sex life,
you come from the point of view of saying, hey,
I'm really struggling because when we have sex, I love it.
I'm having great sex with you, like there is no
denying the dick game is great. But I think that
for me, there's just certain things where I'm maybe not

(26:22):
in the mood and you are, and I want to
just find a happy medium so that you feel satisfied
and I feel satisfied because it's not fair to you.
And if your partner is like I can't do that,
I'm sorry, then maybe this is someone that has a
lack of respect in a greater aspect that's outside of
the bedroom. That's a problem. If you're telling your partner
that you're not enjoying something and they want to continue

(26:43):
to do it, that's selfish. So hopefully your partners like, okay, babe,
how can we work on this? And it's almost like
you start like a regiment of every time that we
want to have sex. I get to initiate once a week,
and you get to initiate once a week, and like,
let's start with that and then go from there. But
I think it's actually like building in which sounds kind
of corny, but almost a communication that allows you to

(27:04):
tell him how you're feeling and then tell him you
don't get the opportunity to initiate because he's always fucking
a horny little dog. So on weekends, we're not having
sex unless I initiate it. And then hopefully you get
in the mood and you're like, wait what, So it's
like you can pick two days a week we're gonna
have sex during the week, but on the weekend it's
my time, or like come up with a rhythm. I

(27:25):
don't know's I like that idea because I understand. I
can totally relate to being felt like you're being attacked
all the time sexually, when a guy's on you and
they want to have sex all the time, and you're like,
give me some space to come to you. If I
could hit on you and initiate that would be sexier
for me. Then constantly feel like if I take my
shirt off in front of you, I'm gonna get pummeled.

(27:45):
I understand where you're coming from. I also think Alex's
advice is good and you should start with that, But
I think it is a big issue if you don't
resolve it now, because you do not want to just
be spending your life avoiding your partner and avoiding sex.
I mean, like a sex therapist, someone you couldn't sit
down with and actually have an honest, open conversation so

(28:07):
that this is a more even playing field because you're
just going to play the avoidance game. You're gonna try
and be asleep before he gets in the room. You're
gonna do all of thee And I agree with you, Chelsea,
because I feel like what happens is you're going to
start to resent him for something that could actually be managed,
and so I think What it really comes down to

(28:27):
is you need to figure out how many times a
week would you want to have sex, and then you
need to go from there. Of like, if you number one,
are enjoying your sex life, that's great. Also you don't
have to tell us, But like, if you're not, that's
also another whole thing. When you're having sex, if he's
actually pleasuring you, Also, how is the sex Like is
he doing any for play? Are you having an orgasm
when you're actually having sex? Like is it just about

(28:49):
him going to poundtown and then like splooging in four
seconds and you're like, well that wasn't fun. Like I
think you need to look inward and figure out what
ways are you being pleasured in the actual moment, And
also is it at all exciting? Is it, like now
just a chore. If it's just a chore, I agree,
you got you gotta switch it up, and you have
to talk to him about it, honestly, tell him to masturbate,

(29:09):
Like jack Off, we've been there. His quote now is
like is this for a two or for one? There
was a period when I was like, hey, if you
feel that you need to and I clearly am doing
my own thing. Just go and he'll be like, is
this for tour? For one? And I actually thought that
was sweet, and sometimes I'd say for two. Yes, definitely
have tried that for sure and it kind of worked

(29:31):
for a while. Okay, and do you enjoy the sex
when you have it? Yes? But that's I think that's
actually what led to him maybe taking different approaches in
the same evening, let's say, because he knows that it's
always the best time, and I, you know, afterwards, you're
so google Gaga and I have been in the spot
where I almost felt bad, like why didn't I want

(29:52):
to do this? When I end up enjoying it so much?
But it's because prior I don't really feel that I
need it, you know. Afterwards, I'm like, why wouldn't you?
You're in love with this man. It's the best time.
He knows what you like. I'm kind of fighting myself here,
and then he's like trying all these different ways. I
don't know. I think that when you're talking about this,

(30:14):
it makes me think that you have to hold strong
for yourself in moments. Of course, maybe you're going to
enjoy it in the moment, but it started out with
you were not in the mood you did not want
to have sex, and so I think that what you
can do, even though it may be very un sexy,
like if it's a Monday, you had a hard day
of work, whatever reason it is, you should literally say, babe,
I'm gonna be honest, not in the mood today, not

(30:35):
in the mood. And so when he tries to pressure
you and be like come on, like whatever, just be like, hey,
not today, maybe tomorrow. So it's almost like say no
and then whether you have to literally remove yourself and
move to the other side of the couch or the bed.
But I think it's it's starting with yourself and creating
boundaries for yourself that will allow you then to feel
better about your decision when you actually do have sex,

(30:55):
because it was on your turf. Right now, it's all
on his time and he's just kind of put wishing
to see if you'll you'll be down. And I think
if you start saying absolutely not like not in the mood,
love you, nothing wrong with you, just not in the mood,
not tonight, maybe tomorrow, I think it will allow you
to feel better that you actually stopped it instead of
it being like this wishwashy in between, like maybe it'll

(31:15):
happen tonight if I like get her in the mood enough,
like just create a hard line, yeah, and explain it
to him in terms that he can understand that it's
not so much fun to be chased all the time.
You sometimes want to be the initiator, and he's gonna
respect that, and he's gonna like that. I mean, how
sexy is it if he gives you enough space that
you are the one initiating, going and sitting on his

(31:36):
lap at night and being like all over him, like
let's go. He's gonna love that. What if you literally
do this? What if you say, whoever initiated last, can't
initiate next? I love that? You know what I did
last weekend? I told him. I was like, hey, can
you when I'm going to initiate, can you just tell
me like, hey, baby, not right now? Can you give

(31:57):
me a couple of minutes? Like I wanted to feel
like just because I initiated, he didn't bounce, And when
I tell you that got made hot and bothered. He
was like, can you wait a moment? Okay? So I
think that's it. It's you literally almost implemented games. So
it's like sorry, hot and I'm sorry. I'm getting she
haskey came in here today with monkey pox. I not

(32:20):
do that, and she has no respect for you. I
think this is it. I think this is it. You
like the game, you want the chase, you want to
feel like you sometimes can be in control. I think
that's the end of it, is that you have an
initiating game. Whoever initiated last now can initiate. I'm up.
I love it. You're gonna be great. Yeah, this is good.

(32:44):
This is good. One thing that I'll say as well,
like looking farther down the road, because you know, you've
been with this guy for four years, you love him,
you're looking for a future with him. I don't think
it's something that will destroy your marriage if you guys
get married one day. I've been in a long marriage.
We have had fluctuating like who wants it more? When
I used to be the one who wanted it way

(33:06):
more than he did, and I would get super hurt
when he didn't want it when I wanted it. So like,
I get that perspective as well. But you know, and
it's like you're always being chased down. I will say,
as you get closer to your thirties and he does
as well. You may find that, like his levels come
down a little bit and yours go up, and you
meet kind of in the middle because you know, there's

(33:26):
great to look forward to. Yeah, I know, you guys,
just yeah, you gave me something to look forward to.
And I know he even just the idea that that
could be to be a potential. He will love that
and give me time. Don't worry. Yeah, your thirties will
be great for sex. I promise that's awesome. Thank you,

(33:47):
Oh my god, thank you so much. I can't wait
to talk to him about this. To you, you're so cute.
I love it. Bye bye, bye bye. She's the cutest
person who ever laid your eyes on. Yeah, that was
really good advice. Yeah, that's up our fay to go well.
Our next colar is Sandra Sandra. Sandra Sandy usually very private,

(34:11):
so you guys, let's keep this one under wraps. She says.
Dear Chelsea, I'm a thirty year old female and I've
been dating my forty five year old boyfriend for almost
a year. I recently found out that he has visited
escorts in the not so distant past. I found this
out because I looked at his text messages. I know
this isn't a good habit, and I'm likely just looking
for ways to feel betrayed. But I'm working on this

(34:33):
with my therapist. I've looked once before and was honest
with him about it, and it definitely affected our trust
with each other. Our trust has since recovered, I guess,
until I chose to look again this time. I found
text messages of him making appointments to hire an escort,
and I should mention this is before they were together.
He was also specifically asking for certain women, so I
think that it was not a one time thing. The

(34:55):
most recent text was seven months before we started dating.
A little context, he's divorced man who was married for
thirteen years and says that they would go years at
a time without having sex and this was a big
factor in their separation. He also disclosed to me in
the first month we were dating that he had cheated
on his ex wife with a stripper while he was
really drunk. He said he told his ex wife right

(35:16):
away and felt horrible and thought I should know upfront.
He has now been divorced for three years, but when
he hired these most recent escorts. He was in and
out of casual and more serious relationships, so I don't
think it was out of a lack of intimacy like
he'd previously felt in his marriage. He's also sober now,
so he can't blame being a drunk either. Our relationship
has honestly been great so far. Any hard conversation we've

(35:38):
had has made us stronger, and he's been a loving
and supportive partner. Now I don't know what I should
do with this information, or even how to feel about it.
I worried that there are some fucked up power dynamics
involved in why he chose to sleep with those escorts,
but I also recognized it was in his past before
me and I found out this information by looking through
his things. Update from Sandra her boyfriend is soon going

(35:59):
to be visiting Thailand, so there's some time sensitivity here.
Hi Sandra, Hey, Hi guys. How are you Hi? Good? Good?
How are you doing? This is a deep one I
think reading that, I I feel a couple of things.
I think number one, you can find some solace in
the fact that everything you found predated your relationship. I

(36:23):
actually appreciated that you also noted that he had told
his ex wife immediately after something had happened. So it
feels like the first step is that he is has
no issue being very open and honest in communication, even
if it means he sucked up. So we're we're already
operating on a good playing field. Because when you have
a compulsive liar or someone that's going to constantly be

(36:45):
hiding things, that's where it gets really tricky. The issue
is is if he was doing this in his past,
there's no saying that he wasn't going to be doing
it now in your relationship. And the issue again is
that you found this by snooping, and so you can't
be like, hey, like I found this, I'm wondering if
you're doing it to me, because then he can be like,
you invaded my privacy and I have never done that

(37:07):
with you because we're in a committed relationship. So I
see why you're kind of in a pickle. I think
what it comes down to is if you can't trust
your partner, you have a huge issue. And I don't
know if I would personally be in a relationship where
I constantly was wondering and stressing out. I've been in
those relationships, so I think that if I were you,
I would nip it in the butt so that you're

(37:28):
not wasting time and you may have to throw yourself
under the bus a little bit. Because wait, let me
actually ask you. How did you know he told his
ex wife He told me perfect, Yeah, first month that
we were dating, he immediately told me that information without
me having to ask. Perfect I did actually, because I
had said in my letter that I have trouble keeping

(37:50):
anything inside. I'm very easy to read. He would know
something was wrong. I told him two days ago that
I looked through his stuff because he's he's currently in
Thailand right now. And what did he say? He basically said,
I didn't really ask all the questions that I feel
like maybe I wanted to, because I wasn't really sure

(38:10):
even what my questions were because I don't know how
I'm feeling about it. But he just said, yes, he
had done that in the past before me, and he
just wishes that I hadn't looked through his stuff and
that he hopes that it doesn't change my perception of him.
But I didn't ask too much more. He didn't give

(38:30):
any opinions or feelings or have you done this in
previous relationships look through your partner's phone. Not no, not really.
I mean I guess I had before in my last
serious relationship, and that's where I think a lot of
these trust issues came from to these struggles with drug addictions.

(38:51):
So there was also a lot of that too, where
I was trying to see, like is he lying to
me about currently using too? So it was its whole
other or like monster in itself. Yeah, but our biggest
mistakes are bringing our old relationships into our new relationships
because there's always going to be somebody that did something
disrespectful or they lied, or they cheated or whatever they did.

(39:12):
But it is your job, as part of your evolutionary
growth into becoming more of the person that you're meant
to become, is to stop those patterns. You looking through
his phone has garnered you no knowledge at all because
he volunteered some of this information to you. The fact
that he went and got escorts, who gives a ship.
That's he's a single guy, He's allowed to do whatever

(39:33):
the funk he wants. Those are sex workers that you know.
It's that doesn't have any impact on your relationship. I
would really beseech you to not look through your partner's
phone unless you have a real fucking reason. It is
a very toxic thing to do, and it will completely
disassemble a relationship when you do that, because you're going
to find something to bring up. You're going to find something,

(39:55):
and without that trust, it's almost like you have no
foundation when you pick up someone else's phone to look
through their stuff, you know, without a real reason, without
something really concrete to go Wait a second, something fishy
is happening here. You know, it's none of your business
what's in his phone. It's not And in order to
have a real, loving relationship, there has to be respect
and trust, and you have to stop doing that. I agree,

(40:19):
and I think, listen, you can't go back. So let's
just stay. You went went through his phone, and I
think clearly whether it was from your past relationship, that's
why you did it, because you've trust issues, or you
also had a weird feeling about your partner. Now number one,
that's an indicator you're not in a healthy relationship if
you don't trust your partner. But let's say, now, okay,
you look through the phone, you brought it up to him.

(40:40):
My advice would be that you have a follow up
phone call like FaceTime him and be like, Hey, I've
been thinking and I want to first apologize because I
feel really shitty that I went through your phone, and
I will admit part of that is on me and
my baggage and my trust issues of I I did
that in a past relationship and I found ship that
I didn't want to see, and so it almost like

(41:02):
reinforced that I should look through because I'm going to
find the hurt and I'm gonna find out the truth
that you're lying to me. What I want to say
is this, I want this relationship to work, and I
want to better myself, and I want to be honest
with you. I promise to never look through your stuff again.
I think all I can ask though from you, because
it did make me a little insecure to see what

(41:22):
you've may be done in the past, that if you're
having any type of feelings or desires or your feel
like anything, just talk to me, because I would rather
you be honest with me than me regret now trusting
you and telling you I'm not going to ever look
through your stuff again and then you go and cheat.
So I think if we can just have an open communication,
but I'll be honest, it made me insecure and I

(41:44):
want to own it because I hate how I'm feeling
right now, and I just want to tell you that
I think he'll really respect that you're owning your ship.
But you're also asking, like, hey, meet me a little
bit in the middle, because I've got some trust issues
and I want this to work, but I also don't
want to feel out like I'm going to get sucked
over for trusting you. And hopefully, if it's a good relationship,

(42:05):
he'll reassure you and be like, I haven't done this
because I'm in love with you, and I don't need
an escort right now because I'm with you, And so
I think hopefully you'll get the answer you want. But
I will say if he doesn't give you a reassuring
answer and he's like, yeah, sure, I get like, then
you also have to look internally of what do you
need in a relationship to feel fulfilled and maybe he

(42:25):
doesn't have the same type of attachment styles, etcetera to
make you feel secure in a relationship. Yeah, and this
guy went out of his way, you know, a month
in when you guys are just getting to know each
other to like spill all his ship to you, Like
he was super upfront with that stuff, So like this
isn't even the guy. I think you need to be
looking at his phone right like he's he's giving it
all to you already. Something that might help shift your

(42:48):
perspective a little bit on just like maybe feeling kind
of weird about like his hired sex workers. Private Parts
Unknown as a podcast and they did an episode. It's
two women who host it, and they did an EPI
said where they were out of the country somewhere where
it's legal, and they visited messours who did happy endings.
They both got happy endings. They have gotten approval from

(43:09):
their partners to do this, and it really shifted my
perspective on like what that experience is really like. But
it might be worth a lesson just to help you
serve some clarity. Yeah, good advice. Yeah yeah yeah, because
that's definitely I'm happy with the direction that the call went.
That it's keeping myself in check and and looking like

(43:29):
inward at at the mistakes I've made in this. But
that's definitely also one of the reasons I had written
into it is just like my general feelings and like
confusion over how I'm feeling, and I've definitely been trying
to do more research into it and ask people who
have maybe experienced this before and how they chose to
see it. I think, listen, I think it really does

(43:51):
come down to insecurity, and I I can relate. It's
almost the same as when you see the current boyfriend
you have or your partner whoever you see their X
and you're like pairing yourself and you're stressing out and
oh my god, am I not enough? And am I
as good in the bedroom? All that stuff. You have
to find a lot of this could be fixed by
you actually focusing on yourself and taking the focus off

(44:11):
of him, work on yourself. Are you insecure about yourself?
What do you think is triggering you so much about this?
And that actually should give you some power back of like,
if you feel good, if you are reading the signs correctly,
if you are not being shady, if you're being honest
in this relationship and you feel like it's being given
back to you, that's all you have to worry about.
And then your own baggage you should deal with on

(44:33):
the side and not let it affect your new relationship. Yeah, totally,
thank you, but no more looking through his phone. No, no, no, no,
it's a bad habit. I need to stop. Yeah, I'll
call him probably, And also I'm going to Thailand with
him in a week. I'm hoping. Yeah, some good conversations there. Yeah,

(44:56):
good conversations give him the benefit of the doubt. And
also when you operate out of like a higher level
of existence by not reducing yourself to going through his phone,
you're going to get a different energetic reaction from him
as well. It's not hot when somebody's paranoid, that's not sexy. Yeah,
you got a good dude, So let us know how
it goes. And if you have a deeper conversation with him,

(45:17):
and maybe this can lead to and maybe you can
enjoy your own escort. And I know, honestly, I started
like looking at I just wanted to look up profiles online.
Keep an open mind. Maybe you guys can thrickle up. Yeah,
like who's doing this and who are these people available?
The world is your oyster? All right? Thanks Sandra guy,

(45:41):
Bye bye bye. She's gonna enjoy her happy ending massage
in Thailand. I might just go to Thailand for that
massage because I wouldn't mind. I mean, I was had
a friend who told us some MASSU said Bicara went
down on her and I was like what, I'm like,
that happens to women, and she's like yeah, yeah. All
of a sudden was just like fiddling with me. And

(46:01):
then he asked if it was okay for him to
go down on me, and I was like, I want
that mosture. I'm open to any sort of that kind
of action during a massage, like if you want to
go down, I mean, I have no fucking problem with that.
F y I for all the messiuses that are out here. Well,
our last question comes from a She says, Dear Chelsea,

(46:25):
I need your help finding the right way to exit
a group chat. This chat consists of nine of my
college friends were now in our mid thirties. The chat
started a few years ago and used to be fun,
but has devolved into mostly a few people going back
and forth about their own personal circumstances. What one husband
did that's annoying, what one person's kid made at camp,
or what kind of cosmetics someone tried out. There's never

(46:46):
anything substantial or frankly interesting. I should add that I
don't think I've been personally addressed in the chat for
at least a year. Most of the banter that takes
place will happen in the middle of the work day,
and I work full time, so the messages are very disruptive.
I muted it a long time ago, but of course
when I opened my messages and say there's eighty nine
on red texts, I either feel guilty or mean by

(47:06):
clicking open and just clear the inbox, or I end
up reading the messages out of guilt and regret doing
so once I've wasted my time and brain space to
do so. I'm currently only close with one girl in
the chat. By the way, she hates it too. I
really want to leave the chat. No one will miss
my presence because I barely reply as it is, But
I know that by leaving it comes off as rude
and mean. How do I do this? I don't dislike anyone,

(47:29):
and I don't want to offend anyone. Thanks A Oh,
I don't know. I would say, I was going to
say mute them, but then you have still have it
in your in box. I think when you have something
that's annoying you in your life, and the fact that
you said no one's going to miss you leave that ship,
and the fact that you also had the one person
that you care about also hates it. The two of

(47:51):
you leave together, be like five, six, seven eight, pressed
the button and get the funk out of there. I
just feel like when you get to a certain point
in your life, esp actually, if you're not in college
and you're surrounded by like groups of people that you
have to see every day, who if something is not
making you happy and it's annoying you and it actually
makes you feel worse about yourself, goodbye. Yeah, And you
can also just preface it if you really want to

(48:13):
like feel good about it, being like, hey, guys, I'm sorry,
I'm going to exit this chat now. I have so
much work to do during the day. It's become kind
of a distraction. Just make up some bullshit. If you
don't want to, just say so and so, you know,
because it comes up so and so exited the group.
From my personal experience, I've exited so many groups and
just said I'm leaving now goodbye without any explanation, and

(48:34):
I have to tell you it is and own us
off your back. I don't want to deal with all
that ship. So I mean, you're you should just get
out of it. And if you want to do it nicely,
do it nicely. And if you want to just leave it,
leave it. Who cares. It's not a huge life decision,
just you know, make your life a little bit more simpler.
I also think that if you're feeling this way, a
lot of people in that group chat are feeling this way.

(48:55):
The fact that it's been lingering for years and people
are like, it's like dusty comments of like hey, guys,
like got back from walking the kid and like me
and my husband haven't had sex in three months, like
any like get the funk out of here. Just I
think you should leave or I agree, just like leave
a little note like super busy, wish you all the best,
like love you, guys. This line is for work. Calls

(49:17):
love you by pizza, and then your other friend can
leave and the other six girls who are not the
three girls who keep totally totally well, there you go.
A it is Alexandra. You're not your full name. It
is Alexander. Would be so funny if it wasn't, and
I just kept calling you know it is Okay, We're
gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back

(49:38):
and we're back. All right, Well we're here to wrap up.
But Alex, do you have any advice you'd like from Chelsea? Oh,
my gosh, I actually think we can expand a little
bit on I know you started Chelsea Lately and it
was gossip and celebrities and obviously comedy, and then as
your career progressed, you started getting vocal about things that

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mattered and that you can aired about. And I can
assume that there were some people probably that were like,
stay in your lane, bitch, just make us laugh and
shut the funk up. I love say that's so casually.
I like, that's the exact quotes that I've been getting lately.
How did you handle that? And like did it? Did it?
Do you think it affected your career in any way? Well,
when I got really political, yeah, I'm sure it had

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a negative impact on my career because people I was
when when Trump got elected, I just could not I
was just at my I just lost it, Like I mean,
I was so angry that this country could elect such
a buffoon that I couldn't deal with it. And I'm
sure that it did have a negative impact on my
career because my manager told me, you're ruining your career,
but I didn't care because you know, I I believe

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in myself and I knew that this was more important
to me. That was the most paramount thing. People still
say that to me today, People still say, oh, you
used to be funny before you got into politics. It's like, bitch,
I have a special coming out in December. It's fucking
and I just got nominated for a Grammy for my
last special, So I'm still fucking funny. How So, I
actually am multidimensional and I can care about a million

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different things at the same time, and I would challenge
you to do the fucking same thing. Instead of thinking
that people are here for one purpose and one purpose only,
we have a multitude of things to offer, and everybody's multidimensional.
And whenever I see comments like that now, it just
makes me want to be louder about the things. Negative
comments about me are irrelevant. They're just irrelevant. I've spent

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too much time in the public eye to let that
affect me. I'm not here for the people that don't
like me. I'm here for the people that do. I
love that because I obviously look up to you so much,
and I have been obviously lightly stepping into just talking
about things that matter. My first thing was literally human rights,
and everyone's like, what the fucky little slut you're getting political?

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Tell us how to funk a dick, and I'm like,
oh my god, like relax. It's so frustrating to see
how angry people get when you step out of your lane.
And it doesn't fully bother me, but it's more just
frustrating to see how closed minded people are and how
unable they are to listen to something that actually will
fucking affect them. Like the amount of women that were like,

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why are you getting political? I'm like, do you not
want to have an abortion? If you get I don't
want the baby? Like, like, what are we up to
over here, ladies. It's also such bullshit to be like
that's your lane. Your lane is you only get to
talk about sex stuff. I don't like that when your
lane no one has one lane. That's so limiting. We're
not here for one lane. We're swerving. Yeah, yeah, we're swerving.

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Some of us are on the shoulder, some of us
are getting pulled over. You know. We have ton of tones,
so many lanes, and that I feel like it's limiting too.
I remember Dax and Christen. We were talking about that
because Dax is like, just stay in your lane, and
I could understand the validity of that because she was
comparing herself to other actresses writing different opportunities. But at
the same time, I'm like, well, no, that's limiting. None

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of us have one lane. We all have things to
offer and let people. It's important to care about other
people than yourself, and I think when you're outspoken about
anything political or anything that's happening in society, you are.
I feel very responsible and like it's mandatory. I feel
that way. So yeah, I just don't Yeah, well, father Cooper,

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you did a great job today and you're a real
solid addition to this PODT Yeah guys, yeah, back. I mean, yeah,
we're gonna call you when we have a cancelation and
we're just gonna come over to your house. Are you
still living in that house that I came to you?
I'm not good I'm doing. You came when I hadn't
have a pocket spot. I was like, do you have
a driveway? She's like not really, Like what I had nothing?

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I was mortified. And you would sit on the couch
and you couldn't get comfortable and you were in your
dress the whole thing. No, I'm I have a different place.
Now you should come over, you should come on, call
her daddy. Let's do it. Let's do it. Be so fun.
Everyone loves you. When you came on, it was, it
was amazing. Well, this will be an even better interview
now that I know who you are. You will high
or you will together. Yeah, let's do it it Okay,

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thank you Alex Cooper. We love you. Thank you guys,
Thanks Catherine. Thanks, don't forget to watch my special on Netflix.
You guys revolution. It's a revolution. So if you'd like
advice from Chelsea, just send us an email at Dear
Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea is a
production of I Heart Radio. Executive produced by Nick Stuff,

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produced by Catherine Law, and edited and engineered by Brad Dickert.