Outsmarting Kangaroos with Eric Bana

Eric Bana is here in America to talk about fighting a kangaroo, his love of fast cars and motorcycles, and why his kids still speak to him.  Then: A put-together woman struggles with the decision to leave her lackadaisical husband.  And a bisexual man finds out he may be a dad – after a fling 8 years ago.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I am wearing my glasses, my dark glasses like Stevie
Wonder in the daylight, because they're my prescription glasses.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I can.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I've lost four pairs of glasses of the last three,
and I have these new favorite glasses, these Look glasses.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, they're like my They transitional are they called?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I was calling them transgender for a while, and you look.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Like a serial killer.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Do they like?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
They're not orange like they used to be?

Speaker 6 (00:24):
Right?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, that guy from you mean, the guy from SVU,
that guy who wears them, what's his name?

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Everyone who wears the transition like kind.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Of green they turned yes, yes, yeah, I got rid
of those. I got rid of those, and now I
have it's this brand called Look. And they sent him
like even Mendez was doing a line with them, so
she sent me a bunch or they sent me a bunch,
and I was like, oh, I love these. I think
I'm going to do something with them because they're nice
and big and they don't touch my face. Yeah, which
is what I want with glasses because otherwise I have

(00:53):
lines and indentations. Anyway, I've lost three pair in the
last two days, so my team is running around like crazy,
is trying to re supplement me, supplement and supplify, supplicate. Listen,
the last few weeks, I am not playing with a
full deck of cards after my foot surgery. I don't
know if I announced I got foot surgery, but yeah,
I think it's whatever. I mean, I pretty much announced everything. Yeah,

(01:14):
I have not been taking my mental my brain plasma
nurrigens and my plasmologens and all my coqu ten because
of the surgery. So I'm a dumb diption.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
It is really true. Coqu Ten like helps with the
brain fog.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Brain fog, but I take all of these supplements for
brain fog, and now I know they fucking work. I
don't know which one it is that works, but I
am like, I try to say things and I'm like, wait,
who where what? I can't think of the words I'm
trying to use. And also I'm taking Norco because of
the pain from my foot, and also because I love pills,
and you know, I only get ten, and so I've
spaced them out in a nice way.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so it's been a little bit of a party
for me.

Speaker 7 (01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, Well, I mean that's just what I imagine I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Still not in my house. Everybody still haven't mopped into
my house.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
So it's to come back from my European trip to
move into my house.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
But no, no, you know, we were talking about this
recently and like I just want to put it in
perspective for the listeners, Like, you bought this house when
twenty show was like four months old.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I bought this house. Yeah, it's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
As long as people have been listening to the show,
you have owned this house and before.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's exciting.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Is there any like update on it?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Do they have an ETA?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, it's in the final stages, and at least now
it is guaranteed work, so there's a warranty on all
of the work. So now that they came in and
fixed everything that my prior contractor fucked up, there is
a warranty on the work so that it will be
professionally done. And then I am hoping to either offload
or rent this house out. I don't want anything to
do with it.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I think, Yeah, the juju there is is not for you.
It's clashing.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I had someone come in and cleanse the house. That's
before before that clearly didn't take. The only thing is
Doug loves Doug loves that house. So maybe I'll let
people rent the house and also be with Doug.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
He can you know what I mean, the rental.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, he comes with the rental with the comple with
other people too.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Actually, so well that sounds great. Today we have an
awesome guest.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh, my boyfriend is here today, you guys, this is
my boyfriend from my long term boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I've had a crush on him for years.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
He's definitely in my top probably top five of like
actor men that I've ever had a crush on, because
I mean, the other ones are too old to fuck,
like all of the guys I like, like Robertson Niro,
he's passed. Harrison Ford too old like they. I mean,
Harrison Ford is still hot. He's got six facts. So like,
I appreciate that kind of respect, you know what I mean.
I appreciate when men show us the respect that we

(03:35):
show them.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, he's given it.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Women are so taking care of their ship way in
ways that men don't, and then they hit a certain
age they fucking let it rip and it's disgusting.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Harrison.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, no, I was on a beach in Portugal with
my friend from my friend's fiftieth and they all went
in the ocean and there's like five men coming out
of the ocean and five women and I'm like, everybody
stop right there. I go, men, I want you to
take a look at these women. And then I want
you to take a look at your bodies. What are
you thinking? Why do you get to look like that?
And then women are keeping their shit together. It's very
king of queens. Yes, yes, it's very king of queens.

(04:05):
That reminds me any to reach out to Leah Remeniy. I've
had spoken to her in a few months. Wow, one
of my buddies.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Should we get her on the show?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Absolutely, she would love to do the show.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, well she's studying. She's getting a law degree. Really, yeah,
she's fucking amazing.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
That's a law degree.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
And yeah, so okay, oh my boyfriend, my boyfriend Sea,
I forgot what I was talking about. Okay, So my
boyfriend is Eric Banna. Guys, you know I love him.
And he's here today because he's in a new show.
He's on a new show. He's in a new show.
He's inside me. It's called Untamed and it's on Netflix.
So please welcome my baby, my baby mama A. Welcome

(04:45):
to America. Eric Bana, Welcome to America.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Thanks Chelsea. This is my official welcome.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
This is your first. I'm surprised you're here actually, And
here's what I expect.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
That customs, you know, like when I'm getting my passports,
would be much better.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, this is the Things have changed a lot since
your last trip over here. Because I know you, you
do come when you have to do press to America.
I know your wife doesn't like to travel, re Becca.
Rebecca doesn't like to travel, but you come.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
She came on this trip, actually coached her.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
And yeah, are you trying to make me jealous?

Speaker 8 (05:17):
No, I'm just pointing out that I managed to, you know,
get her on get her on a plane.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
But no, I don't come here too often. I'm mean
you for quite some time. But anyway, it's lovely to see.
It's lovely.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's always lovely to see. You know who I was
with last night?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Connie Britten, no way, who Eric starred with in Dirty
John was one of your favorites. We've actually spent a
lot of time on this podcast talking about Dirty John.
I don't know if we had you on to talk
about Dirty John, but Connie is a very close friend
of mine, and we had we were out of friends
the house last night, and I just think that whole story,
you know, Dirty John was just I know Connie was acting,

(05:52):
but she kind of is dinghy like that in real life,
so I always like to remind her that I found it.
I just was like, how did anyone be that stupid
to believe this guy? And I didn't like you playing
that role either, because you know that I have strong
feelings about your acting. You're performing. You know that I've
always had a crush on you. I mean, we've passed
the point of it being an issue. Yeah, because we've

(06:12):
known each other for so many years, so it's not
an issue.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
You know, I've met your wife.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I understand you know, so it's not a problem. But
I didn't like seeing you play that kind of character.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Not fair enough.

Speaker 8 (06:24):
And I had a lot of people who had had
a visceral physical reaction to me after that, like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Like people would like cross the street and even people
that like in my suburb, you know, coffee shops and stuff,
that just kind of like kind of recoil for a
couple of months, which I took as a good sign. Actually,
you know what, I should play more of those sort
of characters. I want people to recoil when they see.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Me in run.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well that's better than yeah, being bombarded all the time.
I would imagine you would want to break from people
at some point. I mean I feel like, yeah, that
was a really a repellent character.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
But I mean you've played other repellent characters.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, I love repellent character.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
You like that.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
I love to be repellent.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean the new show that you're on is Untamed.
It's on Netflix, it's already started streaming, and that I
like because you were on a horse immediately on the gate.
You were on a horse, and you were a park
ranger and you know, some sort of detective.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
That's where I love repellent.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's why that's the vibe I like to see you
in and embody. That's when I feel the safest with
you is when you're in this kind of role.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You're solving a crime, you know what I mean. You're people,
You're like the tough.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Guys, supposedly trustworthy.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Supposedly let's say, yeah, I mean you're Australian, so I'm
not in this movie though you I mean in this show,
you're not Australian. You play an American and the accent
is very good, well for this stage.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
If I can't, I'm in trouble. Right.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Why do you think it is eric that so many
Australians can do such great American accents, but Americans can't
really ever do Australian accents?

Speaker 5 (07:48):
You know why?

Speaker 8 (07:49):
Because you don't try. Really, Yeah, when was the last
time you tried to do Astralia?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I can say no, no, I know how to say that.

Speaker 8 (07:59):
No, Honestly, I I would really love to see more
Americans forced to do an Australian eco.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know, it be eliminated from the acting industry because
it would be brutal.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
It would be brutal.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
It's like a tax we have to pay, you know,
to work internationally. Raither playing Brits, so we're playing Americans.
We don't have a choice. Is you don't see Australian
people in international film, right, we just don't exist. We
don't exists as a species species. No Australians appearing as
Australian in any film or yes, we do.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
We've worked for it, We've worked. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I mean, it's a very young country, you know what
I mean. You guys are a younger country than America and.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
People with criminals, of course.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Living with criminals.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
It's a fair point. I'll go back into Michelle.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I know a lot about you. I know that you
love race car driving, like you're really into that. I
stay a film once that you did about it, and
I know you're a big family man. I didn't know
that you were attacked by kangaroos attack? Well, were you
in a kangaroo fight?

Speaker 8 (08:57):
I was picked on by kangaroo once when I was
by myself. Yeah, that's true, that's true. It was just
one guy. He was, I think the leader of the
pack of the valley. I picked the wrong spot to
pitch a tent and he shaped up to me.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
He did, and yeah, what is.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
The process of what do you how do you handle?
How does one handle and infraction with a kangaroo?

Speaker 8 (09:17):
Well, I'm glad you asked, because I didn't know either.
I wanted to google what the hell do I do?
This guy wants a fight? I had no cell phone coverage,
of course, out back I'm in the apple, and so
I thought I'll scare him off with my motorcycle, and
I walked behind the motorcycle. I put the bike between
me and him, and I started it up. I'm like,
this twelve hundred cc beast is just his is going

(09:38):
to go running. And he didn't move, he didn't flinch,
and he actually had a facial expression like really, really
you think you think that's gonna And then he just
kept hopping around trying to square off at me. I
since learned that I should have perhaps not made so
much eye contact and sort of gone into his space.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
I should have retreated. But I had the work night's sleep.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
I was in a single man tand and I was
just picturing like Koujo, you know, like this thing is
just going to come in and just rip me to pieces.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
But I survived.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well, you're a survivor.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
And it's funny though, because you don't think of kangaroos
as a very aggressive type out of all, but they
are kind of they can be.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
They can be. Look, my fault was the kangaroo.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Were you drinking with a kangaroo?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Because I know a woman who had a cocktail with
with the monkey and then the monkey attacked.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
No, I was not drinking. I was by myself.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
But as I said, like, I would have attacked him
if he was in my if he repeeed in my
bedroom as well. I was in his backyard. I was
sleeping under his tree I had. I didn't know. I
should have done my homework.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
What other close.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Calls have you been involved in? Have you ever had
a shark incident?

Speaker 5 (10:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
No, have you ever seen a shark?

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Oh? Yeah, I've seen plenty of sharks as a place
we used to go to called lord How Island which
has loads of sharks out adam past the reef, but
not where you swim, you know.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Like, I think they're pretty safe. I love them.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, we'll all Australians say that. They say they're not
here to eat us. They're not, but they are eating people,
so like I know, they're just trying to take a
bite and then they decide, oh I don't like that,
but whoopsie doodle, then the person's leg is missing.

Speaker 8 (11:08):
Yeah, I think the shocks would do that are a
little bit off, if you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh, oh, like, okay, I think I hate copy that
copy that.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
I've been you know, discouded from the pack.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Perhaps, What about poison, Well, I don't think they travel
in packs.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
But anyway to.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
Australia, don't make it, don't make it sound like this unwelcoming,
you know violent.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I love Australia. First of all, you don't have to
tell me about Australia. I know you're from Melbourne and
I but I prefer Sydney. Sydney is I just was
there last year. I did a tour there.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Again.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I reached out to you, of course, to invite you
to my show as usual, and he didn't show up.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
Well, I was in Canada making the show where he
had to talk about so I wouldn't be here now
if I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Viable to you, obviously we need you on it untamed.
That was a priority.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
What about a deadly snake? Have you ever come into
contact with a deadly snake? Because I fucking hate snakes.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
Yes, unfortunately, Yes, I like to play golf and I'll
see them quite a lot.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
We get browns and and also.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Ones are the really dangerous ones.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
But in Australia, basically all snakes are dangerous.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah, a lot of them are.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
But again, you know, like they you're going into the
area Chelsea like they not come. Actually, sometimes in Queensland,
I might put themselves in golfing.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Are they golfing? That doesn't seem like their area? That
definitely seems like another.

Speaker 8 (12:19):
Area on the fairway. Actually they did cross the fairway.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Sometimes the ground ones are the grossest ones. I find
those that.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, yeah, they're big, they're big and they're thick.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I once saw a picture of like a golf
course that had was just laden with all of these snakes.
I don't think it was in Australia, it was probably
somewhere in Florida, but there were like eight or ten
huge snakes on the golf course. And I'm like, oh
my god, that is like my worst nightmare. Are you
a good golfer?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
No, I'm not very good.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
My wife's white better, unfortunately, but I'm only three yeas in.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Golf.

Speaker 8 (12:51):
God, don't bring this up. She's so good it's annoying.
But you know she's she's a better athlete. She played
tennis as a kid, and it's just accounts that comes
natural to a's worked really hard.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Anyway, she's about seven shots ahead of me. Can we
move on?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, you're embarrassed and you should know I shouldn't be embarrassed.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
You know, why shouldn't she be better than Why should
I expect to be better than her?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, because you're an Australian male, that's probably why you're
thinking that.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
By the way, that's a urine sample.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Kidding. I would never do that.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I would never do that to you.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Okay, So now let's talk about some of your roles,
because I want to know which ones mean the most
to you.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
What role of yours made you like, I know.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
You loved working on Troy right with Brackett And who
else was in that movie?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Was it Orlando Bloom?

Speaker 8 (13:35):
Orlando Bloom, He's fine, so many great actors, Sean Bain,
mister Cox.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
I mean, it was just it was just amazing.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
And I know you said about that movie like had
it made no money, you would have still been just
happy that you had done it because you.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Were in such a good company and you enjoy.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Feel like that on everything I'll work on, like you
always always like like what happens afterwards, Like you just
you do the thing and it's like you put that
experience in a box and you lock it away. And
sometimes I know these sons ridiculous. Sometimes I actually forget
that people are going to say the thing like, now
I'm actually talking.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
About that's already over.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
I had read such an amazing time filming that last year,
and you know how beautiful.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
It is in BC outside the back of Whistler where
we shot most of this.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
I mean, I was getting paid to be on a
horse up in the mountains every day, hanging around with
the most incredible crew, working with amazing riders.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
And then now I'm like, oh, that's right, people are
going to see that. I forget.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
I forget we're making it for people, like it wasn't
just for us, Like I literally forget.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
But also like with the way the industry is now,
there's so much, you know what I mean, We're so
saturated with so many TV shows, so many films.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
There's so much that.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's like it's not as big of as a drum
beat to get to things for releases, for things.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
As it used to be.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
You know, it feels like there's a lot more that
comes and goes much quicker. So to have something like
a project adding on to what you're saying that that
there's like a little bit of lag time to promoting something,
but British Columbia, I think is if I think you'll
agree with me, one of the most beautiful parts of
the whole world.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Yeah, I mean, in some ways we were lucky. We
couldn't get into the key parts of Yosemite where the
series is set in summer, because of practicality reasons.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
So because of what happened with you in that kangaroo, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Exactly, they heard it. So we ended up in BC
at the back of Whistler for most of it.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
And did you see any bears when you were in BC?

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Do you know what I wanted to? I wanted to
and I saw none. And we had a bear guy.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
We had a bear guy who was like, you know,
our safety and the bears safety. I'm like, dude, you're
full of shit. Where are the bears? Like, there's just
nothing I wanted to Like. I heard a rumor that
some actors in the past had put steaks outside of
their I'm not going to mention any knows, Okay, not
on our show, by the way, Okay, well had put
steaks on plates outside their trailers to try and get

(15:41):
an Instagram moment. I didn't do that, but I didn't
see one bear, so I need to go. I mean,
I would have more chance of seeing a bear on
a ski lift in winter than I did.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
On the show, Where did you go?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Stay off the back of Whistler? You keep saying where
where you do you know where you were?

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Well, we stayed in whistle and then we travel out
into the back.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yet you know I have some Whistler.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Well I know, but you never offered it. You didn't
even know you.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Were No, I didn't know you were there.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
This is you.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
This is what I'm talking about with our relationship.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
You're constantly very close by and acting like you're nowhere.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Told you I was there? No, no one really.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
You would have heard from me, Eric if I had
known you were in Whistler, you definitely would have.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
In the summer, No, I go in the I go
it's a ski you know.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I like skiing, so I knew that. So yeah, I've
never seen a bear there either. And at the end
of ski season, when when the snow melts, everyone there's
always bears.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So this year I stayed extra long because I love
the idea of seeing a bear.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
My dogs look like bears. I feel like I have
a connection to bears, and I feel like I could.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Handle a bear, you know what I mean, I would
know what to do in that situation more so than
a snake or a shark or a kangaroo. But this
year I kept waiting and they're like, oh, there's a
bear at the end of the road, and then we
drive down the end of the road the bear would
be gone.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
So I still haven't seen my real life bear.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
The area that we were filming in at the back
of the old Olympic skate park, there is a goosely
there called Debbie, which I saw at some stuff age
in pre production. I'm like Debbie where I like, Debbie
did not come out.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, especially like a big grizzly.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
But a female grizzly is going to be even more
dangerous than a male grizzly.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Fantastic, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
So back to the question about what movie role do
you think, like, what is one movie role that you
think has had the biggest not even impact professionally, but
on you personally.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
That's that's a really good question because I've had like
four or five that have been really special. But in
terms of like on long term friendships, my first big
American film was Black Hawk Down, which was this huge ensemble,
and I to this day have like three or four
of my closest friends are from that shoot that we
stayed in contact with. We had hotel rooms on the
same floor. My son was like eighteen months I think

(17:43):
at the time when we turned up. He was two
by the time we left. I'm literally catching up with
one of those people tomorrow night. So in terms of
like impact on your life, I'd say that would be
the greatest, mainly because of the friendships that were forged. Yeah,
and I'm not alone. There was like different gangs of
friendships on that film because the cast was so huge
of like two people there, three people there, five people there,

(18:05):
and it's the same free of one. Everyone is like
super super tight from that film. Troy was really special.
Munich was really special.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Munich was a great film.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
Yeah, there's been so many that I think the big
long shoots where everyone's away from home has something special
to it. I'm usually the only guy who's away from home.
I'm usually somewhere where everyone's sleeping in their own beds
at night and I'm going back to an apartment and whatever.
But on the big ones like that, it's a bit
more of a bonding experience.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, which is hard because you're also aware there's a
bit of a summer camp vibe to it, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I know it's hard for
you to be away from your family too. I mean,
maybe it's not hard, but it's obviously not. You'd rather
be with your family and you have to. You're the
one traveling from Australia. But your kids are grown up
now and in college.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah. Well the past that stage had twenty three and
twenty five. Yeah, and are they still speaking to you?
They're still speaking to me? Isn't that fantastic?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Yeah, one of them just just just facetimed me from Europe.
Today they're out of the house and stuff. So yeah, yeah,
I'm so old.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
What are you and Rebecca are going to do now
that your kids are like adulting? How are you going
to celebrate your life?

Speaker 5 (19:07):
We'll do more travel, We'll pply, more golf, We'll have
some fun. We'll drink. You'll get her to drink more
than one glass of alcohol awake.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely remember that.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
I send it to you for a week.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I can train anybody. I can train anybody to drink more.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Remember we went to dinner one night in Melbourne and
then I got into the van on the way out
and I went to go take a step up. I
had had a few cocktails, of course, and I stepped
up and then I kind of fell into the van
and eric'sch you're right there, and just kept walking, just
walking by me. No, I think this is a perfect
time for you guys to travel enjoy your lives. You know,
it's so nice when kids are grown up and you've

(19:43):
like you they're cooked.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
They're never found, they cooked exactly now it is.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
It does feel amazing, And it's also that it's that
I do you think will never happen, you know, when
you've got like you just think this point will never
ever come where you'll just travel and it won't really
matter where you are because they don't around. S No,
it's kind of fun. I mean, it's kind of sad
in some ways, but that's yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And what do you think if you had to describe
yourself as a dad, how would you describe yourself?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (20:10):
God, I definitely try and be funny.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
I think my wife and I really similar, like we're
just really into it, really into being parents, Like we
were always really really into it. So I would say
they're probably they will always seek of me being around.
They were like, can you just go back to work?
Like enough of you already. So yeah, I don't know,
something like that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Did you find out that you were you surprised to
find out how much patience you had as a father?

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Well, it depends on the day of the week, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Would you say patience is one of your strong suits
or one of your less strong suits.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
No, I would say in life, in general and in work,
I'm very very patient, very very patient. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, I need to work on my patients.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, I was stupid people.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
It's very hard for me.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
No, fair enough, you know, stupid.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
People is very hard for Dimerware.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't like to I want everyone to sess the
situation quickly and then move on.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Is it stupid people or is it inefficiency?

Speaker 8 (21:04):
Because I have I have discovered recently that all of
my close friends, all of my male close friends, are
high intelligence and have no capacity for inefficiency. It's just
I just discovered this one day when I was telling
my wife about the story. I was just recently traveling
with a buddy of mine and his Bugberry's checking into
hotels anything more than three words, anything.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
That interact with the person in my room. And then also,
don't come in, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Tell me the key, don't give me the two say nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
My issue with impatience is when the interaction just yes,
it's exactly that, when it's it could be succinct, and
yet it keeps going and there's a back and forth.
It's like I already have clocked what's going on, and
I've expressed to you via me O hosts that this
is not like this is over, like I got it.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's even on planes.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I noticed when people it's almost like people want to
just waste time, you know, talking to people. I think
when people are I think planes specifically, because people seem
to get nervous on planes, and I think they like
to talk too much just because they're feeling nervous.

Speaker 8 (22:06):
Ordering food, like people, you know, like when you're in
line and someone's ordering and they're having like a conversation
with the cashier.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah, it's so fucking annoying.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Or in airports when people are just standing there, I'm like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Move? You're nobody's here to hang out and meet friends here.
No one is here for that reason.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
The purpose of an airport is to get from one
place to the next.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Place, So fucking move your feet. I don't understand either,
what's go three or four?

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Brist come on?

Speaker 7 (22:31):
No?

Speaker 4 (22:32):
So then still are never paying attention to either.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Don't throw that word around either. Are you somebody that would.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Ever listen to watch a show on your phone or
have a FaceTime call on your phone without a pair
of headphones on?

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Eric?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
No, exactly, no, that's the right answer.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I had to confront about three different people on my
last travels.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I was just in Europe for two months.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
And I guess with the Americans, h No, they were men.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Though they were men. There was one woman and she
was elderly, so I was.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Like, because I am very well, but she could still
could get a headphone.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
So I mean hearing eyes to something. That's where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Well, that's nice.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
But I thought if I if I said something to
the two men and I didn't say something to the woman,
then that would be sexist, and I don't want to be.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Sex Yeah, exactly, you know that it's down.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
So I said, excuse me, missed, do you have a
set of headphones, and she goes, oh, I'm so sorry,
but yeah there.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Was a reaction. Were you surprised because I'm so.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Nice about it? I go, I'm so sorry. Would you
mind not watching that fucking race card show at full
blast volume while we're on a.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Fucking plane together when everyone it's just so inconsiderate, you know.
I mean, it's definitely more of a male thing, of course,
like everything, where people just don't consider that other people.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
May not want to hear your social media or your
face time call.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, it kills me when someone's on a FaceTime
call with that and you're just.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Like, do you think do you want people to hear
your conversations?

Speaker 6 (23:55):
I do.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
That's the truth, I know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, we're going to take a break and I we're
going to be right back with my favorite Eric Banner. Okay,
and we're back with Eric Banner. Okay, tell me why
you wanted to do unteamed Eric.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
I love the pilot episode when it was sent to me,
I just thought it was so brilliantly written. So it's
and selfishly is an actor you Honestly, when I'm reading something,
I'm reading something as an audience first.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's the truth as an actor or as a person.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
As a person, as like does this interest me?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Do?

Speaker 8 (24:30):
I think this is great? And then the second time
it's like selfishly diving in. Okay, what's this character? Likee
of so I read, I'm like, I'm so in. I like,
whether I'm in the show or not, I'm watching this
like it's not going to be on my.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
List because the first episode is very intense, lots of
things happen.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, the opening I was like panicking under my covers.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
I loved it and I loved the character of Kyle.
And then I met with Mark and we spoke and
I was like, I want to help set this up.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
I want to make this show. So that was five
years ago, so it took us quite a while to yeah,
to get to be what was interested in something. If
it took five years, you got to have patience.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
But such a long time, wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
We hear talking about this if I had no patient?

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Anyway, No, I just loved it, and I because I
love a murder mystery, so many of us do. But
I'm done with people driving arounding cars and knocking on doors.
So here we were in a national park, trying to
solve a crime, but in the most beautiful epic setting,
which has an element of danger to it. And for
those of us who love nature, we know, like there's
yin Yang. It's like you're exposed. It's amazing, but there's

(25:30):
always this element that it could be in a little
bit of danger here. So I love the idea of
that genre or that that kind of program but set
somewhere amazing.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
As a point of difference.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Uh huh, yeah, I mean it means even more to
me now that I know it was shot and Whistler.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I didn't even know that. I didn't even recognize they're
watching it that it was shot in Whistler.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
Well hopefully you don't, because you know, we had some
be stuff from Yoursemite that we stitch into my you know,
So that's good.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
All National parks look the same to me, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Once you're in the woods, you're a.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Park ranger for one park, you're a park ranger for
pretty much all parks.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
I'm not a park range, but you know I'm talking
about myself.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I'm a park ranger.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Right, Investigating Services branch thinks you're a permanent investigative y whatever,
and put it investigator in front of anything, and.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
That's what he is.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Yeah, we should we start with you.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I want to hear Eric give advice to people. Yeah,
this is called Dear Chelsea. First of all, it's called
like Dear Abbey. So people are going to call in
for life advice, and based on your based on your
life experience, everything you've been through, you are going to
tell them what you think they should do.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Will hang on? Will they listen?

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Will do I get evidence as to whether they took
this ship up?

Speaker 4 (26:43):
You know, because people follow up with us.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
Because my wife and I a sick and tired of
giving advice to people. Look that they don't take up.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
That's true. So this comes with the price. There's going
to be follow up.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Come on, all right, well, and you can demand it
of the colors when they come on, you can say
you better follow the caller.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
That's that's a good approach.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Well, this one's just an email, but I thought this
would be a good one. We were just talking about traveling,
and you know, especially since you have two grown kids,
you might have some insight on this. Elizabeth says, Dear Chelsea,
for the sake of sisterhood, help a girl out back
on our third date. Eighteen years and two kids ago,
my husband and I dreamed of living abroad for a
year or two. Think Europe Asia, epic memories before our

(27:22):
kids hit high school and stop thinking we're cool. We
fell in love with Barcelona a decade ago and said
this is the place. Well, one day is now. Our
sons headed into sixth, daughter into third, and the clock
is ticking. We can technically afford it in the long run,
but my husband, who runs his own law practice, calls
it quote financial suicide. Meanwhile, I've been in and out

(27:42):
of full time work since COVID, and the plan would
be for me to be on team logistics while he
keeps the lights on. He feels the pressure. I get it,
but also, yolo, how do I get him to jump?
We both want this. We're dreamers. This country is a
dumpster fire. The kids are still impressionable, and honestly, the
crisp Spanish white wine is calling tips Pep talk, Chelsea Wisdom.

(28:03):
I'll take it all, Elizabeth.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I mean, I think you have to go for it.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
First of all, no time like the present, especially with
what's happening in our country. Yeah, great reason to get
out of there, and great reason to expose your kids.
I mean, I'm surprised they're even willing to take their
eight and third grader, eight year old and eight and
third grade, whatever the ages are.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, it has taken.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
But I mean, if they made that a agreement, then
they should follow through on that.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
That's a good idea. Don't you think I think it's
idea you do?

Speaker 5 (28:29):
No, I'm joking. Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
It is the best thing they will ever do for
their kids, for their marriage, for themselves. I understand Hobby's
point of view. He's been stressed about it, but ten
years from now he won't. He'll look back and go,
I don't know why I was stressed about that financial situation.
I made good on that, like within two years, but
the kids will never forget it. Our kids traveled a
lot through my job. They remember every single location we

(28:54):
ever shot in. They remember absolute specific So it's a
no brainer. You've got to do or how do you
get the husband over the line? You tell him, threaten him,
Oh no, it only gets harder as the kids get older.
If you don't do it now, you will not do it.
And listen, don't let him say you know what let's
checking again in two years.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
That's sixth grade is right before junior high.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
You got to go yeah, yeah, right, you do.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
And also you have to take life by the balls,
Like you know, saying something like it's a financial suicide
is very dramatic. Yes, it's actually not going to be
financial suicide. You'll figure it out, and everyone does figure this.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
And even to that end, like I'm not exactly sure
about the logistics, but like he could have a paralegal
or an assistant who's stateside and in your time zone
and he can be working remotely, I would imagine.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
But you know what else that the financial suicide. Think
that's something that's in your head when you're in your
current bubble, and the minute they land in where is it, Barcelona,
the words financial suicide will slip out of his brain.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, I agree with that. You're always worried about the thing.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Get on that plane.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah, and it'd be great for your kids to learn Spanish.
That's really important for Americans. And then also like they're
not just going to be in Barcelona, You're gonna be
taking weekend trips all over.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yet you guys can go spend time in my house
in my Orca. I mean perfect, yeah, hello.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
All right done, Elizabeth. Let your husband know, but a
guy and I want to hear.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
I want to hear. I want to from with you. Okay,
you can count on that.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
And you know what, I'll even say, Elizabeth, if your
husband is not convinced, you guys can call in for
a couple's counseling with Eric.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Bana just told me to It's not gonna there's not
going to be a bigger conversation after that.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
I don't think I don't think.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Well.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Our first caller is James. James is from Louisiana, and
he says, you're Chelsea. I'm a twenty six year old
bisexual man from South Louisiana. I've only been with men
since coming out about six years ago. I live in
a small town where everyone knows everybody's business. This past
Christmas Eve, my mom was in the Dollar General when
the mother of an old friend of mine walked up
to her. She proceeded to tell my mom that she

(30:53):
thinks her daughter's child is mine. Within the first couple
of minutes of hearing this, I was in denial, but
after looking through pictures, though, I'm convinced the child is mine.
The quote unquote father of the child doesn't know this information,
and the mother is in a mental health facility for
eighteen months getting help. I'm at a loss for words
over this one and would love some advice. Thanks for
everything you do. James.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Whoa, whoa, James Hi. This is our special guest, Eric
Fanna today.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
James Hi. It's nice to meet Chill.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Right, and James is having about of Bell's palsy, so
we have a little bit of a slurred speech, no problem, Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well it sounds like you're dealing with a lot of
stuff right now. Yes, I am. And how do you
think you want to handle this.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
I'm still just kind of like dealing with this at
the moment. But as far as like the kids situation goes,
I mean, I've had a similar view on kids as
you have, and I've never really especially I haven't been
with a girls since like twenty eighteen, so that's something.
But then what's really pulling me in are the amount

(31:54):
of like concerning things like with the child's father supposed
to father, he has like a Confederate flag on the
back of his truck, which is like all you need
to know about that, and especially growing up down here.
My cousin actually babysit the child before because it's just
small town. Everyone knows everyone. She had like seen a
picture of the kid on the fridge and had acts like, Hey,

(32:19):
is that James the mom? She said, no, that's the kid,
but we think that James is the kid's father, and
told her not to say anything. And this is like
a few months before she admitted herself into that mental
health facility for fifteen months. So yeah, and then there's
little things like the kid liked my little pony and
stuff like that. And you also have like a brother

(32:41):
who's a complete opposite, more similar to the father.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
But you definitely had sex with this woman, right, Oh yeah,
you could be the father.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
I did once.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yes, Oh okay, so you could be the father. I
could be the father. Wow, that's heavy, But you don't know.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
We don't.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
And my mom was in talks with the grandmother about
like a DNA test and stuff like that, but they
kind of thought it would be a better idea to
wait until she gets out so she doesn't feel like blindsided, which.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I yeah, sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean she's already got a husband with a Confederate flag, so.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeah, and they're actually so they're not really like together.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Another thing, who's looking after this little girl right now?
Her grandparents So.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
It's a it's a boy, but yeah, her grandparents, and
she's staying with it.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
They're staying with the dad.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, I think you need to process exactly how you
want to approach this before you actually make any move,
you know what I mean. Since it's a huge responsibility
and it is like the rest of your life, you
first of all want to go about it the right
way and actually make sure that she is your daughter
one hundred percent and do a DNA test because son, sorry,
I'm sorry, sorry, and do a DNA test, but also

(33:54):
figure out what the timing of that, what the timing is,
and what makes most sense with regard to the mother
being in facility, right Like, there's a lot of delicate
issues around.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
This, correct, And she does get out in November, so okay.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
That's something.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, I think maybe at that time you can take
it upon yourself to suggest that you know, in a
face to face with her about.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Doing a DNA test or if she thinks that you're
the father, you might not be that's also true.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So yeah, so it's not like, you know, a black
and white situation just yet. I think it's a very
something that you really have to handle with a lot
of delicacy, you know, until you actually do a DNA test.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Got you?

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Do you think that he should have a conversation with
the grandma, the one who approached his mom, and just
just to sort of like get the lay of the
land with the supposed father and the mom.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, I think that would be Are you up for that?

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah, I'm totally up for that.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I think you just be as nice and reasonable as
you as you obviously are, and have a conversation with
her if she's the one who initiated that conversation, follow
up with it like any responsible adult male would you
know or follow.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
Julie walked up to my mom and Dollar General and
was like, so, I don't know if it's my place,
but I think your child is my grandson's dad and
it's just like on Christmas Eve, so.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
It's just a lot. Now, how old is the boy?

Speaker 4 (35:18):
He's like seven, yeah, so this will be something for
him to process too, like when and if it comes out.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yes, I think be very thoughtful don't have unnecessary interactions
with the child until you know for sure what the
situation is, and start with the grandmother. And then in
November when when the mother comes out, then you can
have a conversation with her too, and then just take
steps in the direction of finding out for sure, but

(35:43):
don't do anything rash right now.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
Her And then I also have a boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Another question. This is a doubleheader that.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Cast some tension at the time. We've actually built on
our relationships, so I think that would be fine if
it came down to it. But that's just a whole
another thing, because it's like.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, but again, I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I think you just take it one step in a time.
You do not have to solve all of the problems
on one.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Day, you know, right, that's my problem. Yeah, so just.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Don't overwhelm yourself. You know, you're dealing with a lot,
so just take it. The first step is you're going
to have a conversation with the grandmother.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Heard, And I would also say check out our episode
we did with Caramo Brown because he has a really
similar story, like he had sex with woman once and
you know, found out way later that he had a
child with her and now they have a wonderful relationship.
So check that episode out.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, well, thanks for calling in.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Thanks James Black.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Absolutely, And just lastly, anyone who's on Medicaid, there's a
lot going on right now, and when this happened, I
didn't realize that I was thrown off of it. So
anyone who's on it, anything can happen anytime. And make
sure that you're keeping up with your deadlines and stuff
like that, because they're trying to trick people left and right. Yeah,
just to throw that out, there's some scary stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, that's a really good reminder.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I mean, I know any of us can have unexpected
medical bills crop up, So if anyone wants to pitch
in and help with James's medical bills, I will put
a link in the description.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Dear Chelsea.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Listeners are always so amazing at helping folks out, and
it's a pretty small amount, so I'm sure we can
make a good dent in that.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Okay, thanks James, thank you.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Nice to meet follow up with us.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh god, I know.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Barcelona.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, needs to go with that other family to Barcelona.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Oh man, I know, can you imagine if you found
out that we had a baby together, Eric, can you
imagine what would you do?

Speaker 6 (37:39):
Well?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I mean, and you wouldn't haven even remembered how it
happens that. No, you would have been like you, I mean, no,
not so quick, you just I mean, it's a lot
to deal with.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Unexpected things in life. It's a lot to deal with that.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
No, that's that's a lot. It's a lot.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
It's a lot lot now, I mean, but as a dad,
you know, obviously it's a different situation. But as a dad,
I mean, I would assume you would encourage him to
like try to develop a relationship with us kid, right.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
But once you know for sure just takes what someone
says at face value like dollar general and you know
what what the.

Speaker 8 (38:20):
Hard thing also is like I didn't want to ask
James this, but it's like, how would he feel would
he feel better or worse if you found out tomorrow
that the kid wasn't.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
His most good questions? You ask it?

Speaker 5 (38:31):
You guys were talking, I was talking about past I'm.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
So sorry, you know, Like, you know what, I'd take
a pain pell today for my foot because I wanted
to be coherent for this interview. I wish I had
taken it now I really do.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (38:45):
I mean, would he be relieved or would he be
would he be devastating?

Speaker 5 (38:49):
For how many years now has he thought that this
child is his?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Just recently the Dollar General store interaction? Do we have
an easier question?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Do you want me to do.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Leg something to do with motorcycles?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Have a Lego set of motorcycles that you can put together?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
A lot of grown men are into Legos? Now do
you know that it's a thing.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
My sister into Legos. She's like a relaxing thing. I
put together Legos.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
But are these more intricate crazy?

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I think they're cute and there's you know, you can
do like a little flower pot or like different fun
cute things, or like the set of Harry Potter.

Speaker 8 (39:27):
Recently a Formula one race, the the the trophies were
sponsored by Legos.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
They got their podium trophies in Lego.

Speaker 8 (39:36):
I'm not sure that goes in the cabinet with all
the and what happens if you drop it?

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Like someone come around.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I think they're different Legos now, like they stick together,
It's not.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Like it's they fell apart.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I went to my first Formula One race at Barcelona
a couple of months ago.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
You love it. Yeah, it's it's a very particular thing.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
It's it's I felt watching those guys get stuffed into
those cars with that dry I was being blown in
their faces to cool them down. Made me feel And
I just can't believe that those guys are in the
car for two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, I didn't know it was that long. So it
was pretty intense and it's definitely athletic.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah, and it's a.

Speaker 8 (40:14):
Different It's also like I love it, but there is
a point where I do prefer watching it at home,
Like I do love being at the track sometimes, but
for the race, I do actually really like watching it
at home with all the commentary and stuff. But no,
it's a pretty incredible environment. I was recently on a
trip around Europe with a buddy of mine for a
few weeks on motorcycles, and we took in some motor

(40:34):
racing and went to the Austrian Formula one race, which
is great to compare it to because we have Melbourne
Formula one which is like five minutes from home, and
it was great to compare the differences. But yeah, it's
a whole other one.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
You've never driven in one of those races, not a.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Formula one can No, I've done a lot of racing,
like GT three.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
You don't have to be defensive about it.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
No.

Speaker 8 (40:53):
I wasn't being small dicked about it at all. I
was just, you know, trying to claim my bona fides.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
There was a long conversation.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Brad Pitt was recently on Dax's podcast and they were
talking about Formula one for almost two hours, and I
texted Dax and I was like, I can't believe you
think people want to.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Listen to this ship.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
People are so each I.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Just can't people love Formula one like they love it.
And the reason I went in Barcelona's because I was performing.
I was doing a show and my cousins wanted to go.
She's like, come on, let's go, you'll get the VIP treatment.
I was like, okay, we'll go, and then they put
me on the pad or like the pit or.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
The what's it called? Which tame? Were you with you,
William Williams?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
They both lost that day. Of course, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Do you have the headphones on and we have to
listen to all of.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I did for a while,
but you know what the best part was the catering.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I mean I've been to a lot of VIP like Wimbledon.
You know where you go to.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
These suites and.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, I get a hour.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I was in Glastonbury and then I went to Wimbledon
and that's where what happened with my foot?

Speaker 5 (41:52):
What's next? What made your event are taken off? Next?
Have you done the Australian Open.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I'm going to do the Australia do you go?

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Fucking love tennis. I was just watching Wimbledon this morning
before I came over here. Yeah, Alchoriz just one and
Sinner's playing jo is he beating him?

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Really? How do you feel about that?

Speaker 8 (42:11):
I have a lot of respect for Job. I mean
I've seen so many of his finals in Melbourne. Like
he's just a freak. I mean yeah, I mean I
love Siner as well. Like it's it's it's handing over
the guard, isn't it right? I just hope there's going
to be a third Alchris.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
We need someone else, Yeah, we need a third one.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Alcoriz is so much fun to watch, Like, I love him,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Sinner It's an amazing player, but it's less fun to
watch that, you know, it used to be Dan hill Ski.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Choose between skiing and tennis, just like I had.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
To choose him. I chose skis podcast.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I chose a podcast.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Well, Kate is deciding about whether to stay with her
long time well husband.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I guess, well, this is this will be something, this
will be something that Rebecca could relate to.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
So Kate is thirty six, and she says, Dear Chelsea,
I've been married for almost eight years, together with this
for almost twenty years now. Recently, some things have come
up that I think I've always known deep down but
never wanted to fully admit. My husband is so smart
and talented in so many ways, but has never reached
his full potential. He's always bounced between dead end jobs

(43:14):
and unemployment. He drained our savings training to be a pilot,
but that never went anywhere. In the meantime, I've worked
my ass off to be where I'm at in a
great career and have always been the main one supporting
our household. It's exhausting. He always had excuses as to
why he didn't get promoted or doesn't get better jobs.
I always believed him and have been rooting for him
since day one, thinking this next job will be it,

(43:36):
It'll be the one to lead to a good career.
But it never happens, and I'm finally realizing it's him.
He's the problem. He has no motivation and show zero initiative.
That's why I'm writing, after all, my quote nagging. He
recently admitted that he's content with low level jobs forever.
He doesn't need anything more to make him happy or fulfilled.
I accept him for who he is, but I've always

(43:57):
wanted more for myself, and the resentment is really so
to build up.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
My question is do I stay with him out of
love and except that I'll never reach my financial goals
because he's holding us back. Or is it time I
let him go and accept that I might just be
alone forever. I'm so torn and don't want to end
up regretting my decision ears down the line. Thank you, Kate.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Jesus, this is another's a shaker, like bringing the drama. Hi, Kate,
this is Eric Barner. He's here to help you today.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Wow, that was a heavy letter. That's heavy thinking.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Yeah, it's been way on me.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, it sounds like it. It sounds like it.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I would say to you, if you're talking about resentment,
that really does go away. You know, if you're going
to accept somebody for who they are, that's one thing.
But he's kind of falsely advertising who he really is,
who he really was to a degree, So there's an
that adds another layer of resentment. And I would say
I wouldn't look at this decision as like a binary choice,

(44:56):
like Okay, I'm staying or going. It's actually, now that
you've written all of this it out loud, you're calling in,
you're acknowledging all these feelings. It's kind of like, okay,
well where does this new information take you? Now that
you know he's content living like that. I don't want
you to look at it like what if I'm alone forever?
Don't think at anything like that, Like that's not the option.

(45:16):
It's not him or you're alone forever. You could meet
somebody else down the road. You could meet somebody in
two months, you could meet somebody in two years. You
never know who you're going to meet. I doubt you're
gonna be alone. Most people aren't. Just by everything that
you're saying, it sounds like you're getting ready to make
a move.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
I'm definitely leaning on that side of I think that's
where my head is at. I think I just I
don't know. I just love having like an outside perspective of, like,
am I making the right choice? I don't know, just
any sort of validation that I'm not screwing this up
by leaving. It's just a lot of mixed emotions, so
any I'm just trying to talk to a therapist, I'm

(45:53):
trying to talk to all my friends, I'm trying to
talk to family. Outside perspectives is you know. I'm just
trying to not make like a rash move immediately.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
And just like right, I think that's smart.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I don't think it should be a rash move, but
I think you should acknowledge everything that you're feeling. Like,
if you have a lot of resentment, that's not necessarily
just going to disappear. Being ambitious and wanting more for
yourself is not selfish. That's the type of person you are,
and acknowledging that is really important. As a woman, it's
really important also to acknowledge that and not to be
held back by this idea of like loyalty or love,

(46:25):
like he'll be okay too. Everyone survives, People get divorced
all the time. If that's the road that you go down,
you really just also have to honor where you see
yourself in your life, like take the time that is
necessary to make a deep decision like this and spend
time alone with yourself, with your thoughts, with a therapist
and really contemplate how you see your future moving forward
without him, if that's you know, one option, and how

(46:48):
it would look with him.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yeah, and I think that's. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Kind of what I've been talking to with my therapist
is just like what my values are and I feel
like we're just kind of growing apart, and like my
values and his values maybe don't line at this point,
like maybe dated ten years ago, but at this point,
I feel like I'm trying to continue to grow myself
and like improve myself, and I just don't think that
he cares to do that.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
And so yeah, if those values don't ALIGNE.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Like it's not even values, it's just kind of like
values almost sounds like you're judging him for It's it's
what you want, your desires, Like you're desiring a different
type of life. It's not like he's a bad guy
and you're a good person.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
It's not like that.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's just that you kind of seem like you're on
two different trajectories. He's content with where he is and
you're not.

Speaker 8 (47:36):
So school also be really, really tough because you guys
obviously met really young.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
You've been together for a long time.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
So he did since like nineteen twenty.

Speaker 8 (47:45):
Yeah, so in a lot of ways, you didn't get
to see your fully formed partner until you were well
and truly truly married. So like if you had a
met in your mid twenties, it's maybe a little different.
You might have identified things in your husband that you
can now that would have been less negotiable up until now.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
I'm really sorry you're in this position.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
There's a naive part of me that goes, oh, he
sounds like a really I don't want to say, low
maintenance husband. But is he happy with I know so
many men who are so so driven and have achieved
so much, and it was so miserable and bitter, and
then I hear this, so I'm like, oh, this guy
doesn't have as much as a lot of people. But
is he Is he truly happy? Or I don't know

(48:27):
enough about him to be able to make, you know,
that sort of a sort of a call. But there's
a side of me that goes that's kind of a
really nice thing as well. That's someone who's not crazily driven,
still really happy with their lot in life, and he
probably I'm hoping he adores you. So there's that side obviously,
but I can hear in your voice maybe that's not
fully the case. It's a real it's a real tough one.

(48:48):
But you could also end up with someone who's all
the things you want, who's incredibly driven, who's who's maybe
never home and he's just miserable all the time. I mean,
that's also possible, right right. I'm not discounting any of
the way feeling is Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, I just think it's really important as women, first
and foremost to really honor the like thoughts and feelings
you have around a relationship and not stay there for
someone else.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
You really have to look out for yourself because no
one else is going to look out for you, but you,
like no one is going to make the best decisions
for yourself, and whatever your decision ends up being is
going to be the right one anyway. You know, you're
going to make a left or you're going to make
a right, and you're going to double down in that direction.
And if you stay, you're going to double down on
your marriage, and good things can come from that too.
It's kind of like almost like you have to become

(49:32):
non emotional about it.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
You know. Yeah, that's a hard part because yeah, I
completely agree with Yeah, he's such a great person and
like that's why I look at my life like, well,
I mean, anybody that's so low maintenance as him.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
He's like the most low maintenance person ever.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
But yeah, like the same thing you're saying to Chelsea, Like,
I I'm a woman and I feel like I need
to look out for myself and like my desires.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
I don't know, it's just it's such a hard place
to be in.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
So there's no rush at all. You know, it's good
to just really like think. I mean, the only bad
decisions are the really impulsive ones. So as long as
you're putting a lot of thought into this, you're going
to come out and make the right.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Decision, I hope.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
So one thing that might help as you're sort of
making this decision is you wouldn't help to.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Have sex with Eric Bannett, would that help and making
this decision on offer because we can do this right now?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Okay, ye, would you be willing to do that if
you thought it would help Eric?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
He acts like this, but you know, I'm sorry shy,
and he's like, she's sharing her thinking out loud. That's good.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I mean, this is a good solution.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Actually, I mean this wasn't.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Look here we are now here we are.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
But as you're sort of like dealing with these two
like very different decisions, one thing you can do is
pretend like you made a decision one way and sit
with it for a couple of days and feel how
it fails. And then take a couple of days where
you've quote unquote made the other decision and like see
which one feels good, which one feels like a relief
to you.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah, I've kind of been doing that over the last
couple of months, and I think I keep going back
to leaving and I think that's my answer. I just
I don't know, trying to make sure that's the right answer.
And so I appreciate all of the advice, yeah, from everybody.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Keep us posted when you do make a decision. I'd
like to know what happens. And Eric wants a follow
up too, he wants to know what happens to all
of our.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
What happens.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
And I've already tried to have sex with him. It's
not going to work. He's actually married happily.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
So listen, I think all of these conversations, like, I
think a lot of women are going through this right now.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
You're not alone in right like, there's a lot of
women of our age that are happening.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I mean, I'm sure you're younger than me, but like
in the world today realizing like maybe we don't need
this partner. Maybe I certainly don't need a partner for
what you know, you better bring a lot to the table,
so like I can totally relate to why you be
feeling this way, and that so many women are feeling
this way.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Do you have children together?

Speaker 7 (52:16):
No?

Speaker 6 (52:16):
Thank God, that's the one thing I don't have to
worry about. I mean, we have a lot of animals,
but no children.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
So okay, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Would say that's your answer right there.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Get I would say you can get out free without
children and that then hell yeah, and then get out.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I don't mean to be harsh about it, but that's
how I feel.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
No, but I appreciate the harshness because I'm kind of
a harsh person too. So yeah, but with him, I've
just been taking care of him for our whole entire lives. Yeah,
and so I feel like he's the one person that
I'm not harsh with. And maybe I need to start
I need to do that.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Yeah, all right, Kate, will you follow up with us?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
I will absolutely thank you, Thank you, good luck, k
Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Chelsea.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
I think you bring up a really good point. And
I mentioned this to her when we chatted in our
pre interview. I feel like, for me right now, there's
a lot of women around who are around me who
are leaving a marriage, not because there was some big
chaotic breakup or cheating or whatever. It's just because like
I think there's something better, or this doesn't feel like
the right fit, or we've grown apart, and.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
That's not a bad Like that's not the biggest failure
in the world when something doesn't work out, Like I
think that's what women are coming to grips with that
it's not the end of your world if you break up,
if your marriage breaks up, Like the dissolution of a
marriage doesn't mean it's over, Like you can have a
new beginning, like and you know, men it seem to
have lat nine lives.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Men get married three or four times and.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
You're like, oh, women just aren't as codependent, and women
are like you know, they're going through something. I mean,
I feel like, when you have to make a really
hard decision, Eric, is there a decision you can think
of that you really had to struggle with? Because I
always just think, make a decision in either direction and
then just go with that.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
I do sit on them for quite a long time,
like indecisive. No, no, not even to saw us Eve.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
I don't like to feel pressured into making a quick decision,
you know, So I'm comfortable sitting on it for quite
a while.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
But it's it's and it sounds like I could just
hear it in a voice. There's she's lost some respect
for him.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
It's hard to move past that, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, I think once you get to that point, yeah,
because it all sounds like a great idea when you're
starting out, but you have to grow and evolve together
and taking care of someone is not sexy.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
That's not hot. You know, no one gets turned on
by that. Yeah they think they are they going to
like that.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
But there is some sort of like awakening or uprising
happening with women right now.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
So you are helping forge that.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
I am.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
I've been helping.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Forge it before I was even here. Well, thank you,
I didn't it couldn't tell if you were serious.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
I'm deadly serious.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
I'm deadly serious. Thank you.

Speaker 8 (54:46):
Yeah, I mean you've probably helped a lot of people
really really move on and like empowered it.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
And I'm but I'm not like a proponent of like
I don't want to be a relationship wrecker, like get
away from him, Like I'm not anti man.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I just think that I'm pro woman, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
I'm just saying it's not the end of the world, Like,
don't look yourself as a failure if a relationship doesn't work,
because I think I think a lot of people do
have that baggage associated with like how how is this
going to?

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Am I a failure? With these files? Like how does
this reflect on me as a person?

Speaker 6 (55:14):
Right?

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Right? Something of the world?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
No, and you survive everything even if someone like the
worst things that could happen in your life.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
You are survivable.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
So once you have a enough life experience, you realize, oh,
I'm not going to be broken.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Somebody doesn't have another person doesn't necessarily have the power
to break you.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
That's kind of on you.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yeah. Cool, it's a cool message.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Okay, we're gonna wrap up. We'll be right back. I'm
going to give Eric a quick bath and then we're
going to be right back to wrap up this podcast,
and we're back with Eric Bannett.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
I'm so much cleaner now.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Eric Bannett one of my favorite people. Love him so much,
Love you so much. And the new show is called Untamed.
It's now streaming on Netflix. So if you want to
watch some Eric Banner porn, that's where you should watch it.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Six whole hours of it, six hours of Aaron Bana.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
You do.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
You know, you don't come at us all the time,
So when we get you, we have to we have
to watch it.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Limited supply.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
You're not oversaturating yourself. So no, it's a limited supply and.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
We're lucky to have it.

Speaker 8 (56:17):
Get it before the WiFi drops that I'll say, you know,
that's right limited supply.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I also want to say one thing about Australians before
you go. I have a lot of Australians in my
life and they have to rob it and I thought, well,
most of them are Sydney, but they always think they're
right about everything.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Really, yes, that's a Sydney thing, is it?

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Because that's what my next question was, A bit.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
More people from mel bit more bit more?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, explaining to me that, like, I was listening to
a podcast with my friend if she is, she's Australian,
and while we were listening to the podcast, she was
explaining the podcast to me, I'm like, I can't hear anything.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
How is it?

Speaker 8 (56:54):
It's just because you always hang out and suit? How
is it you don't you don't have many Melbourne friends?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
You have more, you know, because I think Melbourne people
stay in Australia and Sydney people move to the States.
But yeah, Sydney is my city there. I would love
to live in Australia one day. I mean that's really
just like kind of a very idyllic lifestyle.

Speaker 8 (57:13):
It's a great place to leave. But you got you got,
you got a pretty good he got your little place
up in whistle there. You just just get up there
with your.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Dogs and my bear, my bear that I'm going to
find another steak out on your front porch.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
I don't think so. I'm not that stupid. I'm hearing
three properties, none of them in Australia. That's what I'm hearing.
That's what you are here.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's what you're hearing. No miracle ear for you.
You've got this. Okay, Eric, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
So awesome to see you.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Thanks for having always loved it.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Oh god.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
My remaining dates for Vegas. There are remaining dates for
this year.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Summertime is coming and I will be in Vegas at
the Cosmo doing my residency on August thirtieth, and then
November one and twenty ninth.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
November one and November twenty.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Ninth, I will be in Las Vegas at the Cosmo
performing Inside Myself at the Chelsea.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
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