June 29, 2025 • 24 mins
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In this specific episode, you’ll hear all about Chelsea’s recent New York Times bestselling book I’ll Have What She’s Having, in addition to her takes on relationships, independence and solitude, and handling criticism. She also shares unforgettable life moments – from a transformative encounter with Jane Fonda to skiing in Whistler to an unexpected visit to Kennebunkport, where three edibles helped her keep her cool.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, it's Catherine. We're sharing Chelsea's recent interview on the
Webby Award winning daily podcast Totally Booked with Zibby, hosted
by Zibby Owens, the powerhouse bookstore owner and best selling author.
Dubbed NYC's most powerful book fluencer by Vulture, Totally Booked
delivers interviews with the best and buzziest authors like Chelsea.
You'll hear an in depth exploration of Chelsea's New York
(00:20):
Times bestselling book, I'll have what She's having. Be sure
to follow Totally Booked with Zibby on your favorite podcast
app enjoy the episode.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hi, this is Zibby Owens and you're listening to Totally
Booked with Zibby. Formerly moms don't have time to read books.
In my daily show, I interview today's latest, best selling, buzziest,
or underrated authors and story creators whose work I think
is worth your time. As a bookstore owner, publisher, author,
and obviously podcaster, I get a comprehensive look at everything
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that's coming out and spend my time curating the best
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get insider insights, and connect with guests like I do
every single day. For more information, go to zibymedia dot
com and follow me on Instagram at zibby Owens. Chelsea
Handler is the author of I'll Have What She's Having.
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Chelsea is a comedian, television host, six time New York
Times bestselling author, and advocate whose humor and candor have
established her as one of the most celebrated voices in
entertainment and pop culture. After a strong seven year run
as the host of ease top rated Chelsea Lately, a
tenure in which she was the only female late night
talk show host on air, she launched her documentary series
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Chelsea Does, followed by her talk show Chelsea on Netflix
in twenty sixteen. She has penned six New York Times
bestselling books, five of which have reached number one, including
twenty nineteen's Life Will Be the Death of Me. Her
upcoming seventh book, a new memoir in essays, I'll Have
What She's Having, will publish February twenty fifth, twenty twenty five.
In twenty twenty one, she launched her I Heart Art
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radio advice podcast Dear Chelsea, and embarked on the Vaccinated
and Horny Tour, bringing her sensational stand up set to
over ninety cities with one hundred and fifteen shows across
North America and winning the Comedy Act of twenty twenty
one at the People's Choice Awards. Following the success of
her twenty twenty HBO Max comedy special Evolution, which earned
Chelsea a Grammy nomination for Best Comedy Album, she made
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her return to Netflix with her critically acclaimed twenty twenty
two comedy special Revolution. Handler is currently on her stand
up tour, Chelsea Handler Live, and recently kicked off her
Las Vegas residency, Chelsea at the Chelsea at the cosmopolitin
make history as the venue's first female comedian residency. Welcome Chelsea,
thank you so much for coming on totally booked to
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talk about I'll have what She's having. Congratulations, Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Nice to meet you. Okay, tell listeners what this book
is about, please.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think this book is about infusing optimism in times
of despair or ease, while also serving as a reminder
for women, especially to check in with ourselves and make
sure that we are turning into the women that we
wanted to become.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I love that you manifested your whole life when you
were younger, like, this is it, this is who I
want to be. Let's see how I can make this happen.
I mean all I did is like I want to
be a teacher. I want to be a writer. Anyway,
pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think that you know, especially now, what we're experiencing
as a country and just this backlash against women, I
have no doubt in us, you know, I have no
misgivings about how powerful women are.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And we are in this situation right.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Now because of that power and because of the threat
that that serves up to people who can't deal with,
you know, women being powerful. But we're not going anywhere,
so this is just another bump in the road because
women are powerful. We are the source of almost everything,
and we're so smart and like we're finally figuring that
out as a collective, I think, and while while the
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backdrop is not pretty, I'm very optimistic about what is
to come.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, speaking of powerful women, you early in the book
have a meeting with Jane Funda, who gives you some
rather unsavory feedback about your behavior, which you take very
well and actually use to re examine yourself and change
tell me about that and how you can take advice
and not be defensive.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well learned in therapy.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
One of the first things I learned in therapy was
about being defensive and if you are being defensive, you're
usually wrong. Like, if you're right, you don't have to
defend yourself, you don't care.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know the truth.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You know the sky is blue, that your eyes are blue,
that you know the laundry like the washing machine is going.
I know all of those things to be true. So like,
if you're right, you're right, you like you know, you
don't have to defend yourself. And defending yourself also makes
you lose control, right because you're like, no, I.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Did that, I did do that.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I did Like it's kind of just a lose lose situation.
So and then also when someone's telling you something like
all you can say is thank you, And if they're
completely out of their tree and they're not making like
they're not saying something that you believe to be true,
then who cares anyway?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Like it only matters if it is true.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's easier to hear that, but less easy to internalize.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm I mean people are always assuming
that I have no you know that I have so
guarded or protected, like I just everything rolls off my back,
or you know that I'm so confident. People always saying
where do you get your confidence from? I'm like, where's
your confident? Where's your confidence? We should all be confident.
We should be instilling that in each other. You know,
I want all.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Of us to be confident.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I want all of our young women that are coming
up in this world to experience the confidence that I
feel every day.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
From your mouth to God's ears. Let's just say that
I hope that happens too. That would be amazing. You've
served as a role model for a lot of people
yourself whoopsie, whoopsie, or I don't know, I'm probably getting
their day strugopsy, whopsy, whoops. Anyway, that yes, and that
was so nice. So you date. You can tell the
story of it in the book. You were dating someone
got quite attached to his kids. You were so helpful
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to them, you feel devoid in their lives and maintain
this relationship with them for so long. Talk a little
bit about that and sort of stepping into this role
which you funnily enough call yourself father in this dynamic.
But talk about that role in sort of inherited family.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Well, there are so many people women, I mean, people
would never know how many children there are in my life,
how many children that I'm really close to, how many
children that are. I mean, there's lots of them, and
not just my nieces and nephews.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Randoms, you know, random children. And so I kind of
found myself.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know, I've never wanted a baby, but people automatically
assume if you don't want a child or you don't
that you're that you don't like children.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It's not that I don't like children. I just don't
want one. I want like a postami sandwich. I'm not interested.
You know, I can appreciate shape them, you know, good,
go get one, but not for me. Like that message
alone is now becoming louder.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
People are saying and expressing, yes, I don't want to
have a child, that's not for me, and I also
don't want to be married. These can be antiquated notions,
you know, when you break them all down.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What are all these institutions about. It's kind of all
pretty stupid.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
So I want to, like, you know, get after life
and really impact the young people around me, to feel
and instill in them the way that you know, the
way that I feel about the world, which is anything
is possible and you And to have an impact.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
On young people's lives like Poopsie, Woopsie and Oopsie.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Like to be there for them, to want them, want
My attention is basically all I need.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
If you need me, I'm coming.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
But if you don't need me, great, But you know,
like to be of service to young people and the
amount of young people I'm able to whose lives I
am able to impact because I didn't have my own children,
because I don't have a family of my own to
focus on, has allowed me to grow so much and
has given me so much more you know, purpose and
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joy than I would have ever.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Hoped to feel as a person who never had children.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, I just I just love that. I mean babies
as Pastrami sandwiches. Who knew right, who knew? You tell
a lot of stories in the book about different situations
you find yourself in that are funny and sad and
all the things, one of which which I guess could
be construed as both in given your points of view.
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But going to Kennebunkport, where other members of your family
were like, yes, you have to go if you've gotten
this invitation and meeting the former president and while you're
you know, having edibles and whatever, and like, you know,
wearing sunglasses and trying to see him for who he
is as a man and not necessarily his beliefs and
all of that. Like, tell me a little bit about
that story, and why do you put it in?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I put it in because it was just one more
example of the ridiculous circumstances I find myself.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
In all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Anytime my family's with me, they're.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Like, oh my god, you know, it's only because of
you that these things happen.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I'm like, yeah, the good and the bad.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So going to Kenny Bunkport was not on my wish list.
But because of my political leanings, I just was not
interested in that. And I'm friends with his daughter, Barbara Bush,
who is featured in the book, and they invited our
family and friends to go over there to play pickleball, another.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Activity I'm not interested in.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And I was coerced by my siblings who were like,
don't take this opportunity away from most Chelsea. We are
going to Kenny Bunkport with or without you. I wanted
to say good luck getting in without me. But so
we went and I in order to subdue my personality.
Something else I learned through therapy is to drug myself,
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like I have to if I'm going to deal with
a person that I find difficult, I need to take
an edible and then I can deal with them, like
I know, to prepare myself for situations and ways in
which I didn't before. So like you take out the
irritation of the exchange and you're kind or and nicer
to the person.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So it's a win win.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
So and that is just an alternative to cognitive behavioral therapy.
This is just exactly exactly for people who don't have
time to take an edible.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
So, yes, I went over there and I had taken
three edibles.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That's that's how much I needed to make sure that
I didn't, you know, confront him about anything on his property,
Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Want to be like that. So and I have a
habit and a history of outbursts, so.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I knew that I had to really reined in, you know,
So I did take three edibles when I got there.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Barbara Lai Barbara Bush told me he would be getting
a massage.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And then I would not meet him, and I met
him within five minutes of being on the pick a
ball court, and I was and I was, yes, it
was a ridiculous situation. And then he showed me his
personal painting collection and asked me to take my sunglasses off,
and then I had.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
To reveal to him that I was stoned.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh my gosh, do you have these like moments that
few people in the world have. And then you flip
to really, you know, just reveling in isolation and how
great it can feel to be alone, and how you've
learned to be alone, and how when you got to
Canada being Whistler, you didn't mind the mandatory time to
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just read and hang out in your underwear or whatever.
Tell me about that and learning to accept to be
alone and all of that.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Well, I think the it's combined because the whole point
of the Butch story also, like the kind of sub
sub story to that, is that it is another example
of always remaining who you are no matter what circumstances
you are in, Like I was going to always remain
true to myself, So that meant taking three edibles and
also telling everybody when you know, like being truthful about it,
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like remaining who you are in situations like that, most
people in their world don't get to experience. I think
is another thing that we should all aim to be
doing is being ourselves more. And I think the reason
you get to find out who you are is by
spending time alone. Like my time in Whistler that you
were just referring to was like the first period of
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time where I was an adult and I could do
just what I want when I wanted no one, even
though I can kind of do that, I just to
have so many responsibilities elsewhere. So I was up here
just behaving like however I wanted, and I was just
walking around my underwear smoking weed.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I read like thirty books in two weeks. I read
so many books, and I was the time of my life.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I was quarantining for two weeks, so that's why I
read so many books in that short amount of time.
And then I just got up and skied for like
fifty days in a row after and it just felt
like I was I got introduced to myself.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, I love it. You can hear your internal voice
talking to you right when you tell us about skiing
and having you know you're like, why am I risking
my life to chase after to elderly women who were
so much faster than me skiing, like what am I doing?
And we all have those moments, right, like Okay, I'm
in this competitive situation, but like what am I? I
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don't even want to be in this competitive situation? Can't
I just stop? How do you think you're able Aside
from obviously this great therapist who everybody listening to this
is going to want to have as a therapist after this,
but how do you think for people who it's harder
for it to sort of see themselves from the outside
and step aside and say, like, wait a minute, look
at my behavior. Right, It's a skill that you have
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to learn not to be so in it.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It's self awareness, like actually thinking about how you're coming
across rather than just coming across, like considering other people's
reactions to you, which something I never really did for
so long. So that was kind of a wake up call,
you know. And I think for regular people it's it's
it's just more listening and less talking. Like there was
a period of time where I just didn't really have much.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
To say because I was just watching everything and it
was pretty.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You know, it's not it wasn't necessarily fun, but the
gift of self awareness is like the best gift you
can give yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So it's important a to be alone.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's important to be alone with uncomfortable feelings and not
try to have somebody else fix.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Them or heal them.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's important for you to go through emotions and know
that when you come out, you're going to be okay.
And it's important for all women to know that right
when they're about to go through a difficult situation, that
they're going to get through it and there's going to
be a rainbow on the other side, I promise you,
Like we all need to know that. And I think
you get that from spending time alone and actually practicing,
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like being really into yourself in a way generous of spirit,
not in a way that is you have your head
up your ass in a way that it allows you
to give so much more to other people because then
you're so confident and solid that you're able to spread
love and joy and like really kind of light people
up when they're down and pick people up. Like that's
a role that I take kind of seriously, not kind of,
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I mean it takes seriously, like I really do.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It makes me proud to.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Be a woman that will help another woman when they're
in despair or they're distraught, or they're going through something difficult.
And I think we're all just realizing how important and
not just realizing, but definitely in my lifetime, it feels
like a moment where women are really recognizing the power
that we have and how important it is to uplift
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each other.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And yeah, so I think that all comes from spending
time alone.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Amazing. I don't know when I spend time alone and read,
I don't necessarily come out with a new vantage point.
So this is good, this is maybe it has to
be in a ski location for it to really.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Work, you know, well, to be intentional that you really
like want to get you kind you know what I mean,
you have to get uncomfortable with yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You have to be uncomfortable to get really comfortable.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So it's like you have to be alone and you
have to have conversations that are not necessarily you know,
like you don't want to have certain conversations, but it's
important to because anything can say you can say with
love you don't have not everything has to be a conflict.
And I think there's just so many better Now. I
spend a little bit too much time alone. Like now
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my friends are like okay tonight, and I'm like, okay,
but I have to be.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
On by nine.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Like I feel like I'm when I'm a whistler. I
feel like I'm camping. You know, I'm just like so cozy.
I just want to get into bed all the time.
But yeah, I think it's very important to be alone.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Amazing. So what do you get from writing books?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What are some of the biggest perks? Why do you
keep writing books? What is it? Why this book? Like,
what do you get from it? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
They're all different.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean I started writing books that were just funny essays,
and then my last book got more serious. I mean
it's still funny, but there's serious parts to it in
a serious through line. And then this book was very reflective,
and I think what I get out of it is
different at each With each book, I think this book, I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Going to get a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think I'm hitting people at the right time with
what I want to say. And if I didn't have
anything to say, I wouldn't I wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like now, at least I can.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Say that I wouldn't say anything at all because I
had this book. It was I got this book deal
when I was dating Joe Coy and I had this
very public love affair and everyone was just so happy
for us, and so this editor was like, we would
love for you, Chelsea Handler, to write a book about
falling in love, like it's very unexpected, it's very public facing.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And I was like, sure, no problem. But then we
broke up and I was like, oh, whoopsie doodle now.
And then I was like, Okay, well maybe I can.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Write a book about it breaking up because kind of
everything you and I have been talking about is stuff
that I was applying to that breakup like, I handled
it so well. I didn't yell or scream, there was
no art, you know. It was just like, this is
an adult decision. I have to choose me right now.
I didn't want to break up, but you're giving me
no choice, Like, I have to break up with you now,
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and I'm going to be fine. Like all of the
things that we said earlier was that situation. I was
able to apply to that. But that book was was
based on me falling in love, and then it became oh, well,
why don't you write a book about breaking up, And
I was like, I don't really want to write a
book about breaking up.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That's not you know. And then as time went on,
I was like, that's a part of my story, but
that's not the story.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Like that relationship was going to be its own book.
That relationship turns out.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
To be just a chapter. And by the way, I
feel like you handled out so tastefully, you know, you
were like, I'm not going to go into everything. Here's
what you the reader need to know, and like get
out of my business. Yeah, so that was new too. Yes,
you know boundaries. He's very important, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean so for this book, the reasoning, like there
was all that hit, that kind of context to go
along with it. And then I think I feel sort
of responsible to women and want and want to give them, like,
you know, some hope and like some an injection of
you know, positivity, and like get after it, don't lose hope,
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and like be good to yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know, let's all become the women that we want
to be.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I should know this. But have you given like a
commencement address yet at a college.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Oh, yes, well something like that. I think something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, I feel like that is in your future. That's
I'm just predicting that right now.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
That'll be my next phase.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It'll be your next phase. I love it. Do you
feel pressure to be funny all the time? Like what
if you don't feel funny? Like, do you feel like
you need to perform for people or do you can
you just like, No, I.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Don't ever more. I used to, I think, but I
don't anymore. I mean I don't perform.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
No, I mean, I have a good time and I'm
I'm much quieter than I used to be in the
in the sense of, like, you know, partying and being
out with friends and stuff like that was allowed the
louder lifestyle than.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
What I'm up to these days.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
But yeah, I mean, I think it's just that you
just become more of who you are, right like, well,
they are leaning into who you are and you're not
apologizing for any of it. And that's kind of how
I feel and how I felt for quite some time
without understanding like the heft behind.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It got it amazing. So aside from being a commencement speaker,
what else do you think is going to be in
your future after this book? Do you have other plans,
other exciting adventures coming.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I have some plans, but I can't really announce anything yet.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
All I can announce is that I have another Netflix
special coming out, a new Netflix special that comes out
on March twenty fifth, so that will be one month
after my book comes out. And yes, I have a
lot of stuff in the works, but nothing that I
can I'm going to do some different stuff this year.
I'm doing a European tour, which I haven't done in
many years, which I'm excited about.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
But that's just like four weeks going.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
All through Western Europe, and then I am going to
go I have my Vegas residency. I do Vegas once
a month, so I have that. But other than that,
I'm going to do stuff that I've never done before.
So I'm excited to share that, but I can't right now.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, Well that's okay. We got like a little teaser
and that's exciting. My coffing, No, no to orry about it.
Do you find when you're just hanging out with friends
are you often giving advice or is it just at
certain points? Or is it because I feel like you
have a lot of advice to give and a lot
of insights to share, is it. Is it that kind
of dynamic with your friends.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yes, a lot of them, it is, But a lot
of them it's just stupid, funny and silly, like we're
not really talking about anything serious. But I'm definitely somebody
who gives their opinion on things. And yes, I think
most people just need a little boost. Like my podcast
that I do is callers calling in for advice. So
that's that'sment speech right there.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's true. Yeah, you could just excitt from that. Yeah,
I'll just take your transcripts and I'll just send one over.
You know, you can put it in chatcheett something. Have
it already. Yeah, I mean it's quite accurate. What something
that is a misconception about you? That's really irritating?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I really wouldn't know.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, And what about advice for aspiring authors?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Oh, just to first of all, anyone can write a book.
We've shown that.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's been demonstrated time and time again, So you can
definitely do it. It's a matter of actually sitting down
and doing it. And you have to write to write,
that's it. You have to sit down and write, and
then you're going to write more and then you're going
to write more and then you're going to have something,
and it's going to take a long time, and it's
going to be like but you're creating something, and that's
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what creating something is. It's like two steps forward, three
steps back, and then success that you.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Also made that sound very easy, which is great everything.
It's like in the palm of my hand after this,
I love it, and just quickly like, what books are
you loving or favorite books of all time or books
that make you laugh, or any books to recommend?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I think, is it Circe or circ? I think Circe?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Is that The Great by Madeline Miller?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Is it Sirce circ? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
The House of Mirth is one of my favorite books ever.
I love that book.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Oh my god, it's so timeless. I read that book
by Kristin Hannah a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
The Great Alone. I gave that to have you read that?
I have?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yes, Yeah, that's like a subject matter I have absolutely
zero interest in on multiple levels. But I was turning
every single page like, oh my god, what is going
to happen next?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I don't know? The grade alone? That seems like it
could be a subtitle for part of some of the
chapters of your book.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, yeah, exactly, that would be the title. And uh,
what else have I read that has like blown me away?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I'm pretty impressed with Matthew McConaughey's book Green Lights.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was like, oh wow, this guy's pretty deep, you know.
So I remember reading that a couple of years ago.
I was having him on my podcast, so I read
it in like twenty four hours and that was great.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, but right now I'm reading something called The Other Einstein,
which is about Einstein's wife, but it's a fiction, so
who knows.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Very cool. Yeah. I had Matthew mcconaughean on the five
and I spent like a couple of weeks in summer
listening to the audiobook anytime I drove my kids to camp,
and I was like, well, this makes this really pleasant. Yeah,
having the voice anyway. Okay, well, Chelsea, thank you so
much for coming on and all of your advice and
the way you're advocating for other women is really really
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amazing and much needed. So thank you for that. And
you know, the advice to be yourself it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Oh awesome, Thank you so much. It was so nice
to meet you.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Nice to meet you too. Okay, take care, byebye. Thank
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hi, this is Zibby Owens and you're listening to Totally
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Chelsea is a comedian, television host, six time New York
Times bestselling author, and advocate whose humor and candor have
established her as one of the most celebrated voices in
entertainment and pop culture. After a strong seven year run
as the host of ease top rated Chelsea Lately, a
tenure in which she was the only female late night
talk show host on air, she launched her documentary series
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Chelsea Does, followed by her talk show Chelsea on Netflix
in twenty sixteen. She has penned six New York Times
bestselling books, five of which have reached number one, including
twenty nineteen's Life Will Be the Death of Me. Her
upcoming seventh book, a new memoir in essays, I'll Have
What She's Having, will publish February twenty fifth, twenty twenty five.
In twenty twenty one, she launched her I Heart Art
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radio advice podcast Dear Chelsea, and embarked on the Vaccinated
and Horny Tour, bringing her sensational stand up set to
over ninety cities with one hundred and fifteen shows across
North America and winning the Comedy Act of twenty twenty
one at the People's Choice Awards. Following the success of
her twenty twenty HBO Max comedy special Evolution, which earned
Chelsea a Grammy nomination for Best Comedy Album, she made
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her return to Netflix with her critically acclaimed twenty twenty
two comedy special Revolution. Handler is currently on her stand
up tour, Chelsea Handler Live, and recently kicked off her
Las Vegas residency, Chelsea at the Chelsea at the cosmopolitin
make history as the venue's first female comedian residency. Welcome Chelsea,
thank you so much for coming on totally booked to
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talk about I'll have what She's having. Congratulations, Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Nice to meet you. Okay, tell listeners what this book
is about, please.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think this book is about infusing optimism in times
of despair or ease, while also serving as a reminder
for women, especially to check in with ourselves and make
sure that we are turning into the women that we
wanted to become.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I love that you manifested your whole life when you
were younger, like, this is it, this is who I
want to be. Let's see how I can make this happen.
I mean all I did is like I want to
be a teacher. I want to be a writer. Anyway,
pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think that you know, especially now, what we're experiencing
as a country and just this backlash against women, I
have no doubt in us, you know, I have no
misgivings about how powerful women are.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And we are in this situation right.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Now because of that power and because of the threat
that that serves up to people who can't deal with,
you know, women being powerful. But we're not going anywhere,
so this is just another bump in the road because
women are powerful. We are the source of almost everything,
and we're so smart and like we're finally figuring that
out as a collective, I think, and while while the
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backdrop is not pretty, I'm very optimistic about what is
to come.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, speaking of powerful women, you early in the book
have a meeting with Jane Funda, who gives you some
rather unsavory feedback about your behavior, which you take very
well and actually use to re examine yourself and change
tell me about that and how you can take advice
and not be defensive.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well learned in therapy.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
One of the first things I learned in therapy was
about being defensive and if you are being defensive, you're
usually wrong. Like, if you're right, you don't have to
defend yourself, you don't care.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know the truth.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You know the sky is blue, that your eyes are blue,
that you know the laundry like the washing machine is going.
I know all of those things to be true. So like,
if you're right, you're right, you like you know, you
don't have to defend yourself. And defending yourself also makes
you lose control, right because you're like, no, I.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Did that, I did do that.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I did Like it's kind of just a lose lose situation.
So and then also when someone's telling you something like
all you can say is thank you, And if they're
completely out of their tree and they're not making like
they're not saying something that you believe to be true,
then who cares anyway?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Like it only matters if it is true.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's easier to hear that, but less easy to internalize.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm I mean people are always assuming
that I have no you know that I have so
guarded or protected, like I just everything rolls off my back,
or you know that I'm so confident. People always saying
where do you get your confidence from? I'm like, where's
your confident? Where's your confidence? We should all be confident.
We should be instilling that in each other. You know,
I want all.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Of us to be confident.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I want all of our young women that are coming
up in this world to experience the confidence that I
feel every day.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
From your mouth to God's ears. Let's just say that
I hope that happens too. That would be amazing. You've
served as a role model for a lot of people
yourself whoopsie, whoopsie, or I don't know, I'm probably getting
their day strugopsy, whopsy, whoops. Anyway, that yes, and that
was so nice. So you date. You can tell the
story of it in the book. You were dating someone
got quite attached to his kids. You were so helpful
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to them, you feel devoid in their lives and maintain
this relationship with them for so long. Talk a little
bit about that and sort of stepping into this role
which you funnily enough call yourself father in this dynamic.
But talk about that role in sort of inherited family.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Well, there are so many people women, I mean, people
would never know how many children there are in my life,
how many children that I'm really close to, how many
children that are. I mean, there's lots of them, and
not just my nieces and nephews.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Randoms, you know, random children. And so I kind of
found myself.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know, I've never wanted a baby, but people automatically
assume if you don't want a child or you don't
that you're that you don't like children.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It's not that I don't like children. I just don't
want one. I want like a postami sandwich. I'm not interested.
You know, I can appreciate shape them, you know, good,
go get one, but not for me. Like that message
alone is now becoming louder.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
People are saying and expressing, yes, I don't want to
have a child, that's not for me, and I also
don't want to be married. These can be antiquated notions,
you know, when you break them all down.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What are all these institutions about. It's kind of all
pretty stupid.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
So I want to, like, you know, get after life
and really impact the young people around me, to feel
and instill in them the way that you know, the
way that I feel about the world, which is anything
is possible and you And to have an impact.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
On young people's lives like Poopsie, Woopsie and Oopsie.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Like to be there for them, to want them, want
My attention is basically all I need.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
If you need me, I'm coming.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
But if you don't need me, great, But you know,
like to be of service to young people and the
amount of young people I'm able to whose lives I
am able to impact because I didn't have my own children,
because I don't have a family of my own to
focus on, has allowed me to grow so much and
has given me so much more you know, purpose and
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joy than I would have ever.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Hoped to feel as a person who never had children.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, I just I just love that. I mean babies
as Pastrami sandwiches. Who knew right, who knew? You tell
a lot of stories in the book about different situations
you find yourself in that are funny and sad and
all the things, one of which which I guess could
be construed as both in given your points of view.
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But going to Kennebunkport, where other members of your family
were like, yes, you have to go if you've gotten
this invitation and meeting the former president and while you're
you know, having edibles and whatever, and like, you know,
wearing sunglasses and trying to see him for who he
is as a man and not necessarily his beliefs and
all of that. Like, tell me a little bit about
that story, and why do you put it in?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I put it in because it was just one more
example of the ridiculous circumstances I find myself.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
In all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Anytime my family's with me, they're.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Like, oh my god, you know, it's only because of
you that these things happen.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I'm like, yeah, the good and the bad.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So going to Kenny Bunkport was not on my wish list.
But because of my political leanings, I just was not
interested in that. And I'm friends with his daughter, Barbara Bush,
who is featured in the book, and they invited our
family and friends to go over there to play pickleball, another.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Activity I'm not interested in.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And I was coerced by my siblings who were like,
don't take this opportunity away from most Chelsea. We are
going to Kenny Bunkport with or without you. I wanted
to say good luck getting in without me. But so
we went and I in order to subdue my personality.
Something else I learned through therapy is to drug myself,
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like I have to if I'm going to deal with
a person that I find difficult, I need to take
an edible and then I can deal with them, like
I know, to prepare myself for situations and ways in
which I didn't before. So like you take out the
irritation of the exchange and you're kind or and nicer
to the person.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So it's a win win.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
So and that is just an alternative to cognitive behavioral therapy.
This is just exactly exactly for people who don't have
time to take an edible.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
So, yes, I went over there and I had taken
three edibles.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That's that's how much I needed to make sure that
I didn't, you know, confront him about anything on his property,
Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Want to be like that. So and I have a
habit and a history of outbursts, so.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I knew that I had to really reined in, you know,
So I did take three edibles when I got there.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Barbara Lai Barbara Bush told me he would be getting
a massage.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And then I would not meet him, and I met
him within five minutes of being on the pick a
ball court, and I was and I was, yes, it
was a ridiculous situation. And then he showed me his
personal painting collection and asked me to take my sunglasses off,
and then I had.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
To reveal to him that I was stoned.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh my gosh, do you have these like moments that
few people in the world have. And then you flip
to really, you know, just reveling in isolation and how
great it can feel to be alone, and how you've
learned to be alone, and how when you got to
Canada being Whistler, you didn't mind the mandatory time to
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just read and hang out in your underwear or whatever.
Tell me about that and learning to accept to be
alone and all of that.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Well, I think the it's combined because the whole point
of the Butch story also, like the kind of sub
sub story to that, is that it is another example
of always remaining who you are no matter what circumstances
you are in, Like I was going to always remain
true to myself, So that meant taking three edibles and
also telling everybody when you know, like being truthful about it,
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like remaining who you are in situations like that, most
people in their world don't get to experience. I think
is another thing that we should all aim to be
doing is being ourselves more. And I think the reason
you get to find out who you are is by
spending time alone. Like my time in Whistler that you
were just referring to was like the first period of
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time where I was an adult and I could do
just what I want when I wanted no one, even
though I can kind of do that, I just to
have so many responsibilities elsewhere. So I was up here
just behaving like however I wanted, and I was just
walking around my underwear smoking weed.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I read like thirty books in two weeks. I read
so many books, and I was the time of my life.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I was quarantining for two weeks, so that's why I
read so many books in that short amount of time.
And then I just got up and skied for like
fifty days in a row after and it just felt
like I was I got introduced to myself.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, I love it. You can hear your internal voice
talking to you right when you tell us about skiing
and having you know you're like, why am I risking
my life to chase after to elderly women who were
so much faster than me skiing, like what am I doing?
And we all have those moments, right, like Okay, I'm
in this competitive situation, but like what am I? I
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don't even want to be in this competitive situation? Can't
I just stop? How do you think you're able Aside
from obviously this great therapist who everybody listening to this
is going to want to have as a therapist after this,
but how do you think for people who it's harder
for it to sort of see themselves from the outside
and step aside and say, like, wait a minute, look
at my behavior. Right, It's a skill that you have
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to learn not to be so in it.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It's self awareness, like actually thinking about how you're coming
across rather than just coming across, like considering other people's
reactions to you, which something I never really did for
so long. So that was kind of a wake up call,
you know. And I think for regular people it's it's
it's just more listening and less talking. Like there was
a period of time where I just didn't really have much.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
To say because I was just watching everything and it
was pretty.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You know, it's not it wasn't necessarily fun, but the
gift of self awareness is like the best gift you
can give yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So it's important a to be alone.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's important to be alone with uncomfortable feelings and not
try to have somebody else fix.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Them or heal them.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's important for you to go through emotions and know
that when you come out, you're going to be okay.
And it's important for all women to know that right
when they're about to go through a difficult situation, that
they're going to get through it and there's going to
be a rainbow on the other side, I promise you,
Like we all need to know that. And I think
you get that from spending time alone and actually practicing,
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like being really into yourself in a way generous of spirit,
not in a way that is you have your head
up your ass in a way that it allows you
to give so much more to other people because then
you're so confident and solid that you're able to spread
love and joy and like really kind of light people
up when they're down and pick people up. Like that's
a role that I take kind of seriously, not kind of,
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I mean it takes seriously, like I really do.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It makes me proud to.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Be a woman that will help another woman when they're
in despair or they're distraught, or they're going through something difficult.
And I think we're all just realizing how important and
not just realizing, but definitely in my lifetime, it feels
like a moment where women are really recognizing the power
that we have and how important it is to uplift
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each other.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And yeah, so I think that all comes from spending
time alone.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Amazing. I don't know when I spend time alone and read,
I don't necessarily come out with a new vantage point.
So this is good, this is maybe it has to
be in a ski location for it to really.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Work, you know, well, to be intentional that you really
like want to get you kind you know what I mean,
you have to get uncomfortable with yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You have to be uncomfortable to get really comfortable.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So it's like you have to be alone and you
have to have conversations that are not necessarily you know,
like you don't want to have certain conversations, but it's
important to because anything can say you can say with
love you don't have not everything has to be a conflict.
And I think there's just so many better Now. I
spend a little bit too much time alone. Like now
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my friends are like okay tonight, and I'm like, okay,
but I have to be.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
On by nine.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Like I feel like I'm when I'm a whistler. I
feel like I'm camping. You know, I'm just like so cozy.
I just want to get into bed all the time.
But yeah, I think it's very important to be alone.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Amazing. So what do you get from writing books?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What are some of the biggest perks? Why do you
keep writing books? What is it? Why this book? Like,
what do you get from it? Well?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
They're all different.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean I started writing books that were just funny essays,
and then my last book got more serious. I mean
it's still funny, but there's serious parts to it in
a serious through line. And then this book was very reflective,
and I think what I get out of it is
different at each With each book, I think this book, I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Going to get a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think I'm hitting people at the right time with
what I want to say. And if I didn't have
anything to say, I wouldn't I wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like now, at least I can.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Say that I wouldn't say anything at all because I
had this book. It was I got this book deal
when I was dating Joe Coy and I had this
very public love affair and everyone was just so happy
for us, and so this editor was like, we would
love for you, Chelsea Handler, to write a book about
falling in love, like it's very unexpected, it's very public facing.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And I was like, sure, no problem. But then we
broke up and I was like, oh, whoopsie doodle now.
And then I was like, Okay, well maybe I can.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Write a book about it breaking up because kind of
everything you and I have been talking about is stuff
that I was applying to that breakup like, I handled
it so well. I didn't yell or scream, there was
no art, you know. It was just like, this is
an adult decision. I have to choose me right now.
I didn't want to break up, but you're giving me
no choice, Like, I have to break up with you now,
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and I'm going to be fine. Like all of the
things that we said earlier was that situation. I was
able to apply to that. But that book was was
based on me falling in love, and then it became oh, well,
why don't you write a book about breaking up, And
I was like, I don't really want to write a
book about breaking up.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That's not you know. And then as time went on,
I was like, that's a part of my story, but
that's not the story.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Like that relationship was going to be its own book.
That relationship turns out.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
To be just a chapter. And by the way, I
feel like you handled out so tastefully, you know, you
were like, I'm not going to go into everything. Here's
what you the reader need to know, and like get
out of my business. Yeah, so that was new too. Yes,
you know boundaries. He's very important, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean so for this book, the reasoning, like there
was all that hit, that kind of context to go
along with it. And then I think I feel sort
of responsible to women and want and want to give them, like,
you know, some hope and like some an injection of
you know, positivity, and like get after it, don't lose hope,
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and like be good to yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know, let's all become the women that we want
to be.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I should know this. But have you given like a
commencement address yet at a college.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Oh, yes, well something like that. I think something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, I feel like that is in your future. That's
I'm just predicting that right now.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
That'll be my next phase.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It'll be your next phase. I love it. Do you
feel pressure to be funny all the time? Like what
if you don't feel funny? Like, do you feel like
you need to perform for people or do you can
you just like, No, I.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Don't ever more. I used to, I think, but I
don't anymore. I mean I don't perform.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
No, I mean, I have a good time and I'm
I'm much quieter than I used to be in the
in the sense of, like, you know, partying and being
out with friends and stuff like that was allowed the
louder lifestyle than.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
What I'm up to these days.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
But yeah, I mean, I think it's just that you
just become more of who you are, right like, well,
they are leaning into who you are and you're not
apologizing for any of it. And that's kind of how
I feel and how I felt for quite some time
without understanding like the heft behind.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It got it amazing. So aside from being a commencement speaker,
what else do you think is going to be in
your future after this book? Do you have other plans,
other exciting adventures coming.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I have some plans, but I can't really announce anything yet.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
All I can announce is that I have another Netflix
special coming out, a new Netflix special that comes out
on March twenty fifth, so that will be one month
after my book comes out. And yes, I have a
lot of stuff in the works, but nothing that I
can I'm going to do some different stuff this year.
I'm doing a European tour, which I haven't done in
many years, which I'm excited about.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
But that's just like four weeks going.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
All through Western Europe, and then I am going to
go I have my Vegas residency. I do Vegas once
a month, so I have that. But other than that,
I'm going to do stuff that I've never done before.
So I'm excited to share that, but I can't right now.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, Well that's okay. We got like a little teaser
and that's exciting. My coffing, No, no to orry about it.
Do you find when you're just hanging out with friends
are you often giving advice or is it just at
certain points? Or is it because I feel like you
have a lot of advice to give and a lot
of insights to share, is it. Is it that kind
of dynamic with your friends.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yes, a lot of them, it is, But a lot
of them it's just stupid, funny and silly, like we're
not really talking about anything serious. But I'm definitely somebody
who gives their opinion on things. And yes, I think
most people just need a little boost. Like my podcast
that I do is callers calling in for advice. So
that's that'sment speech right there.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's true. Yeah, you could just excitt from that. Yeah,
I'll just take your transcripts and I'll just send one over.
You know, you can put it in chatcheett something. Have
it already. Yeah, I mean it's quite accurate. What something
that is a misconception about you? That's really irritating?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I really wouldn't know.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, And what about advice for aspiring authors?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Oh, just to first of all, anyone can write a book.
We've shown that.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's been demonstrated time and time again, So you can
definitely do it. It's a matter of actually sitting down
and doing it. And you have to write to write,
that's it. You have to sit down and write, and
then you're going to write more and then you're going
to write more and then you're going to have something,
and it's going to take a long time, and it's
going to be like but you're creating something, and that's
(22:31):
what creating something is. It's like two steps forward, three
steps back, and then success that you.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Also made that sound very easy, which is great everything.
It's like in the palm of my hand after this,
I love it, and just quickly like, what books are
you loving or favorite books of all time or books
that make you laugh, or any books to recommend?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I think, is it Circe or circ? I think Circe?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Is that The Great by Madeline Miller?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Is it Sirce circ? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
The House of Mirth is one of my favorite books ever.
I love that book.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Oh my god, it's so timeless. I read that book
by Kristin Hannah a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
The Great Alone. I gave that to have you read that?
I have?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yes, Yeah, that's like a subject matter I have absolutely
zero interest in on multiple levels. But I was turning
every single page like, oh my god, what is going
to happen next?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I don't know? The grade alone? That seems like it
could be a subtitle for part of some of the
chapters of your book.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, yeah, exactly, that would be the title. And uh,
what else have I read that has like blown me away?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I'm pretty impressed with Matthew McConaughey's book Green Lights.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was like, oh wow, this guy's pretty deep, you know.
So I remember reading that a couple of years ago.
I was having him on my podcast, so I read
it in like twenty four hours and that was great.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, but right now I'm reading something called The Other Einstein,
which is about Einstein's wife, but it's a fiction, so
who knows.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Very cool. Yeah. I had Matthew mcconaughean on the five
and I spent like a couple of weeks in summer
listening to the audiobook anytime I drove my kids to camp,
and I was like, well, this makes this really pleasant. Yeah,
having the voice anyway. Okay, well, Chelsea, thank you so
much for coming on and all of your advice and
the way you're advocating for other women is really really
(24:18):
amazing and much needed. So thank you for that. And
you know, the advice to be yourself it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Oh awesome, Thank you so much. It was so nice
to meet you.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Nice to meet you too. Okay, take care, byebye. Thank
you for listening to Totally Booked with Zibby. Formerly moms
don't have time to read books. If you loved the show,
tell a friend, leave a review, follow me on Instagram
at Zibby Owen's and spread the word. Thanks so much. Oh,
and buy the books.
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