September 19, 2024 • 55 mins
On this new bonus episode, Danielle and Millie discuss the shitty little vampire criteria, a Mike Myers-related FMK, and movie-watching phone etiquette.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everyone, welcome to a bonus episode of I Saw
What You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho of
Danielle Henderson, and we're already giggling up. I know we
were giggling before we press record, so.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I've I've already sent you several all caps text
messages this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Okay, come out.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh yeah, we summer nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Okay, here, here's here's my thing. Okay, so y'all listen
to the episode that we did about Trouble without a
Cause and Last Picture Show in where we discussed how
Danielle and I are could cough as fuck if Trump wins. Okay,
(01:01):
I can't even say it. Okay. There was a moment
where I made a call, like a very public call
for shitty little vampires to contact the podcast. Okay. Now,
we got quite a few, quite a few entries for
the shitty little vampire, and I have to say a
(01:23):
lot of them were not shitty little vampires.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
A million was.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Literally like not goth enough to have these entries question
whether or not you are a little vampire, let alone
a shitty little vampire if you've got like outdoor gear on,
because that's the thing vampires do.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Not go outside like that. They do not they don't
participate in extreme sports. Don't y'all know this? Do you
remember what a vampire is? Like, let's remember, like what
vampires are. They have usually have like dye black hair,
really really dark like Box from CBS, like the darkest
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dark hair you can get. I mentioned crushed velvet. I've mentioned,
you know, I don't really like long fingernails, but a
lot of them have long fingernails, and like those rings
that have like a bird's skull that goes over the
noth Oh my god, you know, like Peter Jewelry long hair.
(02:26):
Filed teeth, Danielle, you mentioned that in the text teeth
or filed.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We were coming up with rules for what a shitty
little vampire was to each other because I'm like, maybe
you need to be more specific about what your definition
of a shitty little vampire. So yeah, like file file
one or two teeth. You know those eye teeth like
on this side, on the sides of your front teeth,
(02:53):
file them down like commit really commit ghost white like
ghost where you can see veins.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like let's remember, people come on, like, let's remember what
a shitty little vampire could be? And I said shitty
little vampire, because I don't think if you're like on
the short side, I love it. I love a short
vampire king like whatever. Like like, I just shocked that
(03:24):
people were sending us being like I'm a shitty vampire,
and I'm like, are.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Daniel was like, I think they're misunderstanding the assignment. I
was like, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
That if you are hydrated, you're not a shitty little vampire.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh my god. Absolutely not have mister Burns crinkle like
if you're curled up like mister Burns from the Simpsons, Like,
come on.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Give me some part of your body. Has to have
creepy skin, like dry, wrinkly, like little creepy skin where
you're like, oh, you haven't been outside, you haven't had
to drop of water. Just sallow. We're looking for sallow. Yeah,
like like parched. I want someone who looks parched.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah. Stringy hair like ye, long, stringy, long hair.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Don't. We don't want these modern listates. Let's just say that,
no modern listats. If you watch.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Queena, if you watch Queena the Damned, and you and
you saw that version of the stat the woodstock ninety nine.
Lstat I'm not talking about you, Like, we're talking about
a classic shitty little vampire from the olden days, not
anything new. So I mean, I feel bad because I'm like,
(04:49):
thanks for responding to my request, But yeah, I think
I was talking about something a little different.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But well we've given some further instructions now, so shitty
little vampires activate. And this is also the thing, shitty
little vampires probably don't have Internet.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, they either don't have internet or they were the
first people on the Internet, exactly. You know, it's it's
it's either or. I mean, honestly, when it comes down
to it, it's really just an attitude.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The attitude of a raven knuckle ring is what we're looking.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh yeah, like we're we're gonna We've got a movie
coming up on our schedule that is probably as close
to the definition of shitty little vampire that I can
think of. And you gotta be a little grouchy, you
gotta be a little stuck in your ways. You gotta
be like not into you know, modern fandango, Like you
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just gotta like be an old school dramatic bitch.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
If you if you have a phone of yourself smiling
does not apply right.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And most importantly, you're gonna want to have to create
a secret world with me. That's I think where it
really boils down to is that that's really like you
know what I mean? You gotta be like, who are
my kind? Like? I want to create an alternative universe
with you.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
A lot of shitty little vampire applicants have families that
ain't gonna fly in Millie's world. You can't create a
little world with Millie. If you got kids, you gotta
leave them kids.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We have to go underground, like if you've got people,
if you've got to, if you already got a partner, Listen,
I'm not Polly. I don't do it like that. Like
it's like, if we're gonna create blood art, you gotta
have like you gotta be free and uncomfortable. I can't
(06:57):
so crazy. I can't do this truly gonna this is
what we're like literally making a casting call right now
on our podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Billy's planned Billy an Underworld takeover. You cannot bring children
to an underworld takeover. She's gonna be making art with blood.
They're gonna be pewter candles, candle holders everywhere asbestos will
(07:37):
be part of the part of the plan, whether you
like it or not. Think Lost Boys, you think they're like,
listen to what we said during Lost Boys, they're living
in filth. They're living in underground filth, old cars as beds. Yeah, like,
come on, y'all, you know what a she little vampire is.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I know. And I was gonna say it's gonna be
like a twenty one and up affair, but I think
he actually gotta be.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
At least oh, like, it's gotta be at least thirty
ye air a minimum. You can't. You can't twenty twenty.
You still probably have hope or like a zest for
life buried in you somewhere.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
But by by the time thirty comes around, it's like, yeah,
you've probably seen a little bit of darkness and you
might you know know what I'm talking about, but you know.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You need to have gray hair. Let's put it that way. Yeah,
natural natural gray hair.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
If you got a if you got a couple of
springs poking out, it's your time. That's it. Like, because
what I remember when I turned thirty, Yeah, that's when
I got like my first gray hair, and I was like, okay,
turning point, life change, life changing event.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't remember the age I was when I got
my first gray hair, because I just started. I just
started noticing them one day and I was like, all right,
that's happening, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was pretty It was probably
around thirty one thirty two. I didn't mind very much either.
Actually at that time I felt like being gray was
kind of like do you remember Stacy London from that show?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, with a little shock of gray hair, a
little shocked.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So I was I'm gonna be a salt and pepper
if genetics prove anything, I'm going to be a salt
and pepper gray, which I'd rather just be all gray. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I think that's my issue, is that I either want
to go entirely gray or not at all. Yeah, Like,
because the problem for me, like I think we've talked
about this is the texture of grays.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's just so.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, but you don't look like you have gray hair
at all.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I do. You can tell on the well now, when
my hair is not braided, you could tell a lot
in the front. It's in there somewhere. And then I've
started getting We've already discussed everyone has their experience with
the first gray pube. We don't need to get into it.
But I've started getting gray eyelashes, like some of my
eyelashes are gray, uh huh, and not eyebrows even just eyelashes.
(09:54):
And so I'm like, all right, my whole head is
in revolt. This is fine.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Have you had a gray ear hair yet? I haven't.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm just asking no, no, or I have had a
gray nose hair. I have had a gray nose hair,
and the chin hairs have been starting to get a
little gray. I am a fucking nightmare, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm I've had a gray eyebrow hair, and I was
freaked the fuck out by that.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So but you need to have it to be part
of the Shitty Little Vampire crew. Oh So, wherever the
grays are sprouting on your body, whether it's like your
nip hair, your fucking chin hairs, ear hairs, something's got
to be gray. And we do not need visual proof.
We just need you to know that your hair has
(10:41):
some part of you has to have gray hair. I
think we've weighed it down. I think we've mapped out
the Shitty Little Vampire a little bit more succinctly.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
We absolutely have. And so now if you do write
to us I saw dot com, you won't entirely embarrass yourself.
I just have to say I love the effort.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Here's the question I have for you. Do shitty little
vampires wear crocs? No, so you can't even be part
of your own club, bitch?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, First of all, you need to shut up.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I mean, unless you're gonna burn those crocs at the
first bonfire.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Look, here's my thing. I didn't ever told anybody that
I was a shitty little vampire. I was simply gonna
be a goth intense bitch like I. My vision for
this couple is basically me being angry like downward Spiral
(11:48):
era goth industrial bitch, and then my life partner would
be a shitty little vampire.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Gotcha. Okay, that is the clarity we also need. That
is a clarity we also need.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
However, I have to say I don't even think intense
goth industrial bitches were crocs either. That's just my take.
I could be wrong. There's probably goths lining up to
email us right now. And I saw she did pot
at gmail dot com. Who are saying listen, I got
crocs and I wear gibbits and I'm goth. So but
(12:24):
my like I said, my thing is a very like
specific style. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Like this is specific to you. These are rules for you.
You do not have to get upset with us if
the rules do not apply. These are Milli's rules for herself,
for her shitty little vampire underground coupling experience.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right, Like, I personally believe that. You know, if you
watched the first if you were at the first Lollapalooza
and you saw Nightish Nails perform and all of their
equipment failed, look at what they were wearing while that
was happening. If that's you. If it's not on their body,
it's not on you.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Do you have a pair of leather gloves that go
above your elbow? Ask yourself?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Or just like little little We'll have one, right, little ones,
we'll happy driving gloves like whatever you have to do
to take it off and then smack somebody with it.
That's like enough of a black glove.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, let's get to this fucking email before we have
zero listeners. We will have zero listeners left and we continue.
All right, We're gonna read your emails now is.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That you're going first?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're reading this one?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, I'll read the first one. The subject of the
email is Campbell's cup bo Chino. Hello, and this is
from Sabrina, who uses she her pronouns Hi Millian. Danielle.
I felt compelled to write in after listening to today's episodes,
specifically about so I married an ex murderer. I should
be grading my students projects right now, but instead I'm
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writing you and watching the film at this very moment
to say a few things, Danielle, thank you for your
continued vulnerability and willingness to be so open with your
life and experiences. Your continued ability to show vulnerability to
a bunch of strangers helps inspire me to try and
embrace vulnerability, which is something I'm working on in therapy. Uugh, Millie,
(14:22):
did you know that Sherry, the woman at the beginning
of Charlie's first poem, is the same actress who plays
Debbie in Singles aka your Instagram namesake Debbie Country. That's
a fact to that end. Here's a quick FMK Mike
Meyer's edition, and then we're just gonna skip that and
do that in a second. She ends her email with
(14:43):
By the way, I just turned forty four, and I
completely agree about not knowing how to be in your forties.
And I totally miss coffeehouses circa nineteen ninety four. And
I totally went to City Lights Bookstore in SF when
I visited two Love to You Both, Sabrina yay Ella.
We definitely knew that Sherry was Debbie from Singles. Also
(15:08):
was in the movie The Guest. She's been in everything definitely,
but good eye, good Eye, Sabrina. So I'm gonna give
you the FMK Mike Myers edition.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh easy, go ahead, all right?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
One Charlie or his dad, And so I married an
ex murderer Wayne in Wayne's World or Austin Power in
Austin Powers or Doctor Evil or a lot of oars,
A lot of options.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
A lot of swapping out of partners in this one.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
This isn't insanely easy.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
For me, go for it. It's kind of easy for me,
but you go first.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay. Is it weird that I might want to fuck
Doctor Evil? I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, but give us reason, show your work and maybe
we can come to some kind of understanding. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I mean, it'd just be like funny for like it
would be funny, uh I could you know basically like
take a peek of that giant fucking chest cavity that
he has, and I don't know, I like a scar,
a face scar like that, Like he looks very intriguing.
He looks like a villain. Obviously that might be kind
(16:36):
of fun for some role play opportunities, but ultimately just
a very short sash not you know, not a long
term thing. I could see that. I could see having
fun with doctor Evil for you know, just like maybe
a night or something. Marrying Charlie's fucking dad from sorry
(16:57):
married exporterer just my time husband, like real, real stuck
in his ways, grumpy loves the basity, rollers like like
a drunk, but like loves me implicitly, like he's like
you know what I mean, Like he's not going anywhere
at all. He knows exactly where where's home is, but
(17:23):
he's he's it's it's it's a little bit of a
bumpy ride. That's like that's a long term partner, to
be honest, like that's that is forty plus years of
marriage in a nutshell. And then I'm killing Wayne because
because he's just so like annoying sometimes he would annoy me, like,
(17:48):
I mean, like I love Wayne in certain certain regards,
but then I don't know, like he's he's like a
he acts like he's twelve. Yeah, Like that's just annoying sometimes.
But anyway, that's my answers. What about you?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Pretty solid, pretty solid answers. I am fucking Charlie's dad.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Nah, Like, are you just gonna straddle him in that
fucking yeah right herbit chair that he sits in right.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
In the bark a lounger. Just give him a day
or night of his life, probably day. He's a nightfucker anymore.
Oh Jesus, Just give him something to talk about for
the rest of his short life. Oh my god, he'll
(18:49):
be into it. It'll be weird and funny. And I'm
fuck Scottish guys before you, Lucky you, I got a
whole thing with the whole accents is kind.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Of cute love.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I'm fucking Charlie's dad. Why not? Oh my god, my mind.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Absolutely mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I am going to marry Wayne? Why because he's always
hanging out with Garth out of my house, out of
my face.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Should have known, should always in that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Basement doing that fucking show stay down there with your
little friend, only because I have to kill Austin Powers,
the most annoying character of all time.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like that's I. I wasn't even able to bring him
up at all.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Just annoying, just annoying to me. So by default a
marrying Wayne but out the gate, fucking Charlie's dad, no question,
didn't even hesitate.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah great. I actually, for some reason, I thought you'd
probably sleep with awesome Powers. I don't know why I
thought that. I was like, I don't know who's like, wow,
sweetish venus and larger is a little a little uh tantalizing,
but honestly, yeah, most annoying guy ever of all time.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And I can't even do I can't do anything with
doctor Evil. And I feel like I knew Charlie in
the nineties and I wouldn't want to touch him either
in any way to fuck mary or kill. So my answer,
my answers are true. My answers are solid. Great questions
to Brita A great FMK, thank you for emailing. Millie
is done for the day.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Oh I am I'm flushed down a toilet. I don't
even know what to say between having sex with doctor
Evil and you having sex with Charlie's dad from Sorry,
I would just what a dark place? Dark place? All right?
We have a voicemails.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I'm Millie and Danielle. My name is Emily and I
use she they pronounce, and I have a question for you.
I live with a forty year old dude who is
my partner, and a thirteen year old dude who is
my son, and they both really love movies. Would watch
one every day if we had time, and I'm probably
(21:26):
more in the middle. They get really bent out of
shape when I am scrolling on my phone while we're
watching a movie at home. I would never do that
in the theater and feel like I'm not paying attention
hard enough for them. I guess I'm a busy working
mom and sometimes watching a movie for me is just
(21:50):
a reason to space the hell out, and you know
it won't disappear off the earth. I could always watch
it again. What do you all think? Is it rude
to be on your phone when you're watching movies with others? Thanks?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Really love you both.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Absolutely fantastic question, Emily.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yes, oh my god, what's your opinion on this?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I have instant opinions and they are all in Emily's favor.
They laid out the questions so beautifully. Also love the
I love the I live with a forty year old
dude who's my husband, and a thirteen year old dude
who's my son. Because as that was happening, I was thinking,
wouldn't it be funny if they said, and a thirteen
(22:32):
year old dude who's my roommate. But but no, I
think if you are in your home and you are
watching a film with your family or with people in
your home, I'll break this down in a couple of ways.
With your family, do whatever the fuck you want. You
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are absolutely correct that sometimes movies are just zoning out.
If you haven't picked the movie, if you're not sharing
an overwhelming interest in the movie, and you just want
to spend time with your family. You could hear the jokes.
You can understand what they're where they're coming from. You
can look up at the screen when you want. I
play games all the time when I'm watching movies by myself.
I constantly do. There's a puzzle game that I love
(23:15):
called It's a color matching puzzle game called I Love
Hugh two h u E t Oo constantly play in
that Animal Crossing Katamari Demasi. It's a zone out time.
So if you're at home and you're not watching something
with subtitles, do your thing. We're able to multitask in
a way now that I think we probably weren't in
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the past, So it might be kind of jarring to
some people. I think that if you're in a movie theater,
shut everything the fuck down and put your eyes on
the screen. Absolutely. If you're fidgety or anxious or need
to do something with your hands, bring a stress ball
or some of those tiny magnets or whatever you gotta do.
But no screens, no other screens except for the movie
screen if you're in a theater. Also, there's a comprom
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it could be made here where if it's a movie
that you pick, maybe you're not on your phone, and
there's there's just a lot of compromises I think that
could be made, But I don't think any of them
have to be you not being able to truly relax.
If relaxation is the name of the game, be on
that phone, your face. But this to me changes. If
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you have just company, that's like family. If you have
company over friends, over whatever, pay attention. You're all doing
an experience together.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, see, I think that that's my that's my issue
is okay. I think it depends on the circumstance, to
be honest, because generally I believe, generally I believe that
you should not be using your phone. Yeah, definitely not
in the movie theater. Like I think obviously that's that's
(24:51):
been established. You and I both are like real hard
party line on not using phones and movie theaters. It's
a plague. Yeah, my if my feeling about doing it
at home, Okay, if you're alone, all bets are off.
Do whatever the fuck you want. You can be naked.
You could be like grooming your dog, you could be
you know, like writing, writing a thesis. I don't know,
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just do it. Like, if you're alone, you do whatever
you want. If you're with Okay, here's the thing. If
you've if you don't have any stakes in the film
at the onset, like, if you haven't come together with
whomever you're with it's a roommate, your thirteen year old roommate,
if it's your thirteen year old son, if it's your partner, whoever,
If you have not collaborated on the title and you've
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like wandered into the movie, like maybe ten fifteen minutes
after it started, then yes, you have no investment into it,
and if you pull out your phone, I guess that's
the way it's gonna be. However, if there is, if
somebody has asked you to watch a movie with them,
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if you've collaborated on the title, like meaning you you
gave an opinion about watching something, then I believe you
should be paying attention because it feels like there's a
little bit more at stake there. So that's that's kind
of how I feel, And I guess when it comes
down to it, I feel like maybe if you want
to throw up percentages, you should be ninety percent not
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on your phone, and then there's like a ten percent
special circumstance. But that's kind of how I feel.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I agree with that. I think you should. You should
at least try if you're making the effort. But I
also think maybe this is just their thing. Maybe this
is just your partner and your son, like, maybe this
is just their thing that they do together. And if
they don't want you to be on your phone and
you're not really interested or invested in the film, go
do something else. Go be on your phone watching something
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else in another room, or on your computer or on
your phone or whatever. I think that it's okay if
it's just their thing, but if you want to be included,
another compromise possibly is give it a shot. Be like,
all right, I'm going to watch the first half hour
of this movie. If I'm really not feeling it. I
love you, guys, I want to spend time with you,
but I'm gonna be on my phone for a little bit,
like use Nearly's ninety ten percentage or whatever, but at
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least try it. I think that, Yeah, whenever I'm watching
something brand new, I always pay full attention. If it's
something that i'm watching again and again or I've seen before,
I'll be on my phone playing a game, no problem.
And if people are over, I'm not on my phone.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So, but I think in the you know, it's it's
your family, it's the comfort of your own home. And
if you're saying that film helps you relax, then I
think there has to be some kind of compromise there
for y'all.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, I mean, to be completely honest with you, I've
been on my phone during movies, like I've gone over
to my friend's houses to watch movies. But here's the thing.
I never like, I didn't weigh in on the title.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
So so basically what in my case, I'm just sort
of like, if I'm just along for the ride, it
whatever the fuck y'all want to watch, I have no
opinion on it. Then if I am not into it
and I pull my phone out, I feel like, Okay,
that's fine. But if I'm like, yes, we should watch this,
I've waited on the selection and then I'm on my phone,
(28:13):
I feel like that's a little bullshit. But that's that's
just me. I mean, I'm I have my own opinions.
But that's this is such a good question because yeah, yeah,
people have been people have This is a sensitive topic.
People get really upset sometimes when they feel like they're
trying to show you this like thing and then if
you don't pay attention. I've been in that position, so
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it's like, you know, I don't know, but you got
to feel it for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's why I think there could be a I will
give it a shot for thirty minutes or an hour
or whatever. It is, like if they're trying to bring
you into an experience, then yeah, definitely pay attention and
try it for as long as you can stand it.
But yeah, I think i'd like to hear what I
don't know. I'm kind of interested what our listeners think
because I think it's a very contentious topic as well.
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But my general to ease this all out, my general
rule is if I'm alone, I do whatever I want
when I'm watching movies. If I'm watching movies with people,
all devices are away and I pay attention to the
experience and I'm having with somebody.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Else, yeah, good, good, good good.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I don't have a family, though, I don't have anyone
else in my face all day, so I.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Know, I was like, yeah, usually I'm watching movies alone
all the time, so I don't I'm not even affected normally.
So we have this Why don't you read this next
one because it feels like it's all about you.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So the subject of our next email is gas Station,
Buttered Hard Rolls and Summer Camp Movies. Hey ladies, longtime listener,
first time writing in. I grew up in Michigan and
currently live in Colorado, but love Stuart's gas Station, which
seems to only be in New York. I spent my
childhood going to summer camp in upstate New York and
(29:57):
became a loyalist of Stuart's root beer fl My kids
now go to the same camp and we will always
stop for a root beer float while in town. This
time I glanced and saw a buttered hard role by
the cash register. Normally I'm creeped out by gas station food,
but after hearing Danielle preach the way of the gas
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station buttered roll, I picked one up. It was fucking delicious.
I would like to thank Danielle for bringing awareness to
this and to the person who gave that role the
generous slab of butter. In the spirit of summer camp.
What are your favorite summer camp movies? Mine is Meatballs
As a kid of the eighties, You bet your ass
we watched it at camp for movie night. Totally appropriate
(30:40):
for kids. Bill Murray talking about Sexual Awareness Week is
burned into my ten year old psyche forever love the show.
Love you both, Emily, and I'm guessing it's a different
Emily than the Emily that just send us a voicemail.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, I think we have many Emily's that listen to
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
But listen, there's a lot of things that I think
I take for grants in my life, and I that
I there are a lot of things that I thought
were just public knowledge, including the buttered roll. But it's
a regional delicacy that I'm happy to bring awareness to.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I am so happy that people love this thing just
as much as you do. Like, the buttered role is
essentially your three eleven if you think about it, like
I love that you love them so much. I've never
had one, and I'm dying to have one.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Like I talk about it, you are a couple of
weeks away. You are a couple of weeks away from
having one.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Absolutely no, that is gonna be Like the minute you
pick me up at the airport, we are driving to
some gas station. I'm fucking going.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Ham gas station, dunkin Donuts. This is the the hit,
the morning hit. Yeah, when I know, I'm setting myself
up for a good fucking day, I'm getting a buttered
roll in a dunk.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You're gonna see my ass on my Instagram account eating
this thing. Just know when it's when it happens, it's
going to be very public.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm going to record it the way people record their
first child's birthday. Cake, like that's how I'm going to
record it. Yeah, of course, like like a gender reveal party.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Have you been to a Stuart's gas station?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, Stuart's is I didn't realize they were New York specific,
but I think they are also a regional thing. I've
seen Stuart's SODA's and other places I've lived, and they're
the kind of the same brand. But yeah, they're gas stations. Yeah,
to my knowledge, I mean, because they had the same
logo and everything, but they definitely it's when you're getting
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it right from the source, like fresh from the tap,
root beer, nothing like it. And they're kind of like
old timey shops, like a little old timey cutie. They're
they're you know, they're newer, they build new ones and stuff,
but they're kind of like, you know, no, they just
have a vibe to them where you can find some
Grandma candy there if you need it. If you haven't
seen a Necho Wafer since the eighties, go to a
Stewart you'll see him.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah. It's kind of like a cracker barrel, but not
a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, like a gas station cracker barrel.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, Okay, because I was wondering I was like, because
I've seen Stuart SODA's and I was like, I don't know,
maybe that's the same place controversial opinion. I am not
really into root beer.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Ooh, that's all right, birch beer. Have you try to
birch No, you don't like any of them, none of
them tree beers.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I like gin, I like ginger beer. Is that does
that count?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Like I love say family ish, I think.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I love a Moscow mule. If you're wondering, I mean
a fucking love of Moscow mule. Honestly, maybe too much.
But yeah, I'm not really into root beer, uh, even
if you put ice cream in it. But I respect, Yeah,
I respect the fun out of people who love root
(34:01):
beer and these buttered rolls. I love that you're vindicated
about these roles. Now, as for summer camp films, what
what's your take on this?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know, I don't. I don't have personal experience with
summer camp. So the summer camp movie never really hit
me as hard, but they were very prevalent in the eighties. Yeah,
and I remember things like like Creep Show and All
the Summer. All the summer camp movies that I can
remember watching were very camp or very horror based. Yeah,
(34:36):
so sleepway camp like you know, yeah, like that, But
I don't have like a favorite favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah. Oh mine is definitely Little Darlings, which we've talked
about on the show before. Sleep Away Camp is probably
my second favorite. But yeah, I mean, honestly, like it's
it's funny now that you say that. Do people even
really send their kids to sleep away camp anymore? It's
usually just like day camps and shit, right, that's a
(35:04):
good question.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I mean, there are definitely some that maybe you'll go
for a week or two, but it's not like a
whole summer long experience to my knowledge, I think it's
just been like a much shorter time time frame.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Now, yeah, my nephews went to like stem camp this summer,
I know, but it was a day thing, so they
go all day and then my sister would pick them up.
And then I kept thinking, I don't even know if
my sister would let my like she doesn't let her
kids go spend the night pretty much. Ever, so the
idea that they got a camp for two months would
(35:40):
be out of the question.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But our generation couldn't wait to get rid of children
for as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Oh, I yes, that is exactly what my point is.
I think ultimately is that kids of the eighties, and
I mean the idea that there's a proliferation of some
camp movies in the eighties is because eighties parents were
like fucking get rid of them, like give them to
the Poultergeist. If not that, send them to send him
(36:10):
to Sleepway Camp.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Those are your options in the summer summer camp Poltergeist.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, we're trying to go on toward Bob Seeker. We
don't need these kids around. Emily incredible email. Thank you
so much and.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I'm glad you got your buttered role experience. Come on
back to New York next summer and stock.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Up absolutely all right, So our next email is called
too Many Things and a Question and it was written
by Steph in Ottawa using she her l pronouns Hi.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
All.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
First off, love ya. I can't tell you how amazing
it is to have two such smart and funny women
in my ear every week that are my age. It
was something I didn't know I needed. Thank you for
sharing yourself with your listeners. In your most recent episode,
Crack Open a Party Gay, you talked about the movies
you loved in middle school and how important that phase
(37:09):
of life can be. My husband and I do movie
nights at least one time a week, and we are
in a eighties slash nineties nostalgia phase right now. This
has been thinking about who I looked up to in
movies growing up. I distinctly remember watching Crocodile Dundee and
thinking that Sue was the picture of sophistication and the
(37:29):
type of woman I wanted to be. She had a
badass career, traveled the world, and was sexy doing it.
Upon a rewatch, I realized she was sleeping with her editor,
her dad owned the paper she worked for, and she
was mostly a damsel in the stress in the outback.
For Buck's sake, my question for you, who is a
character or movie that fell from grace for you after
(37:53):
a rewatch? Most of our rewatches are great. We recently
watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer in honor of the late
Old Sutherland Rip Canadian King and Laconic OAF and it
made my preteen heart very happy. All the best, Steph
in Ottawa. PS. Danielle, I just finished your book and
could not put it down. Thank you for sharing your
(38:15):
story and your vulnerability in both your book and on
the pod pps Millie, you are the fucking coolest and
so I worried an ax murderer does hold up?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Aw, Steph. This is a great email and a great
question that I don't really have an answer for. This
is not an easy one for me to answer, but
I think Milly has an answer about. I mean, I
just is a character or a movie that fell from
grace after a rewatch, I.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Feel like this podcast is a rolling diary of characters
that have fallen through grace. I mean I can think
of JD from Heather's Yeah, Ethan Hawk from Reality Bites,
Reality Bites, like who else that have we talked about?
Being like, actually that person sucked many many things, I think,
(39:02):
But I mean, this is just such a boring ultimately
a boring answer, But I just kept thinking about Jenny
from Forrest Gump. I feel like the tide really turned
on her. Don't you think, like.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
In what way she died? Of aids for Jenny?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Because Okay, Jenny had a lot of problems, but she
was also really selfish and she played with Forrest Gump's
heart and I think that's a lot a lot of
people were thinking, is that she was using Forrest Gump
as like a place to run too after her life
went to shit. And maybe that's not fair for Forrest
(39:46):
Gump because he loved her so much.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
She also kept that kid from him for a very
long time.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
M H self just said selfish.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And again, don't get those email fingers going. I'm not
saying anyone who doesn't tell someone about their child is selfish.
I'm saying Jenny is selfish because Forrest Gump loved the
shit out of her and was always there for her,
and there was genuinely no reason for her to not
tell him he had a kid, right.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm just saying I feel like I feel like I've
perhaps been in a Forrest Gump scenario where I've given
endless amounts of time, energy and care to someone who
ultimately was just passing through a lot of times. And
(40:38):
that's on me. I'll and maybe Forrest Gump did have
a moment where he was like, I'm culpable in my
own misery here, Like, let's get serious, I don't have
to open the fucking door whenever she rolls through town.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
I don't think he could formulate that thought process. I
don't think he lived his life that way.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, I think he was.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
He was all heart and he didn't judge super positive,
super open, and she knew that and took advantage of that.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Here's what I would say if I had been Forrest
in our nation's capital, go to that black panther party
and realizing that she was basically dating some scumbag and
she didn't want she didn't want you know, me and
what we had in our history, and she like she
just could never connect on the fact that he was
(41:29):
the best dude to her, and then she just like
kind of flauded that shit in his face in Washington, DC.
I'm like, listen, I would have dropped her ass. Then
I would have left, like go on your hippie bus,
like get away from me, like honestly, like and she
(41:50):
wasn't even on heroin at that moment. She was probably
just smoking a lot of weight. I don't know, am
I being too harsh on Jenny.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
There? There is there such a thing. This is your opinion.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well, but you know as well, when I first watched
the first like twenty five times I watched the movie
in the nineties, I was like, I don't know, I
kind of thought, oh, you know, this is just such
a like a they're gonna end up together and she's
just messed up, but she understands that he's her person.
And now I'm just like, I don't know, like, yeah,
(42:27):
this is maybe this, you know, just the years talking,
but I was I was upset with her.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I There's always been something that bothered me about how
their love story was framed. And I think we hit it.
I think this this hits the nail on the head
that she was taking advantage of him and she fell
from grace for me, after I watched it enough times
to realize that that that and this is also again
the film is told through a mail lens. Yeah, so
(42:54):
it's not surprising to me that they would make this
fucked up pixie sixties hippie girl, yes, be kind of
lacking emotionally, so that they could use that to bump
up the humanity of Forrest Gump, which in my opinion,
they did not need to do. I think he was
(43:14):
already a character full of, like you said, heart and
wonder and grace and love. Yeah, but to put her
in his life and then make her so diabolical to
him seems very male lens shit that we're looking at.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah, I just I mean, I love Forest Gump's
ability to take someone back over and over and over
again after they've completely like just fucked off.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
To me, I just am like, what's her angle? Like?
She just I mean, I get her angle is that
she needs to go find herself and she doesn't need
to be booed up when she's like trying to figure
out her own shit. She comes from trauma. Yes, it's awful,
but I just I don't know. Again, maybe that is
because the men Will involved, the story ended up being
(44:04):
a little less complicated than it. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, I think I think she I think she does
fall from grace after a few rewatches, but I think
that if the movie were more generous to her story throughout,
she wouldn't have had that fall from grace. I think
that if it was if it was amplified more, I
think that it's and I haven't seen it in a while,
but I think it was clear to me and watching
it that they had a deep connection that she was
(44:30):
aware of and maybe didn't always know how to act on,
possibly because of her trauma, possibly because of you know,
other shit. But I still think she treated him like
a real, real fucker.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Man. Yeah, now I've walked, I've walked all the way
through a Fall from Grace to like justice for Jenny. No,
what am I thinking right now?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Stay stay on fall from Grace? Say stay the course,
Stay the course. You made a compelling argument, and again
let us know your thoughts on it. But I think
that I can absolutely get there with you if there
is a fall from Grace, because Jenny was not a
fully realized character. Unfortunately, if you got three hours to
(45:14):
show far As Gump going all over the fucking world,
you can't take twenty minutes of that to show Jenny
going through a little emotional Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Also I hold space for people who are just shitty. Yeah,
like people can just be shitty, Like they can have
like bad histories and not work on themselves and just
treat people like shit.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
And that is a most most people on this planet unfortunately. Yeah,
all right, Well we've walked Jenny to Ottawa God in
a Fall from Grace.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I caught a psychoanalysis profile of Jenny from Forrest Gump.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Let's get that essay in the next book.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
That's right, Well, we have one more email, and if
you'll read it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
I'll be so I would love to read this. So
the emails subject is hosted my first film fest, thanks
to you. And this is from Kad who uses shi
the pronouns Hi friends. I just got home from hosting
my first film fest. I have loved film for as
long as I can remember. It's always been my hyperfixation
(46:21):
and something you can't shut me up about. I was
so excited when I heard Karen and Georgia first promote
y'all's podcast in whatever the fuck year that was. I
was so stoked to hear two women of color cut
up about films and having me bust into ugly ass
giggles so hard. Y'all showed me that there was a
future in this passion for someone like me, and I
went back to school as a ninth grade dropout, now
(46:43):
in my thirties and am now on the tail end
of a degree in my school's radio, television and film program.
I produced and shot a film about the history of
one of my city's oldest gay bars for a project
in video production, and me and my buddy decided to
build a miniqu were film fest of shorts around it
for Pride. There were suggested donations at the door and
(47:05):
we ended up making a stack for a local nonprofit
that supports homeless LGBTQ plus youth in that area. I
feel I've found my path helping tell people's stories and
building and giving back to my community, a community that
has given me everything. Shelter, a shoulder to cry on,
food to eat, family, joy, love, education, and endless entertainment.
(47:29):
I just want to say that I'm grateful to the
two of you for showing me away to exist and
participate in film as a woman. Also, thank you both
for writing books, and thank you Danielle for sharing your
life with us through Ugly Cry. My inner child healed
a bit. We're planning on doing another fest for Halloween,
but gay obviously any suggestions. Thanks from a weird girl
(47:53):
in South Texas, and I hope to see y'all live
one day. KD. This warms my heart so much. And
after we just spent the last hour being fools, no,
I'm like, do we deserve this credit? KD? This is
all you. You have done something so monumental, and I'm
(48:15):
so proud of you. This is this is huge. Every
step that you've taken to find your place and to
find yourself has led you to something so beautiful and
that also manages to give back, and I think that
that is truly a gorgeous way to live life. And
I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, oh my gosh, this is such a nice email. Honestly,
like I do think, oh my god, we spent an
hour being absolute idiots and then this email comes to
town and is like very heartwarming, very sweet. It's awesome, Like, dude,
(48:54):
this is like why I want to do anything in life,
is that I'm hoping that, like, you know, other people
get into this world, especially people who are shut out
of this world, of this film world, Like fuck it,
like let's work together, Like come on, Like I'm tired
of it being just for the fucking boys, and I'm
(49:15):
just tired of it being for the fucking like tis
set white rich guys, you know what I mean. And
it's just like we should be doing exactly this, and
it's like all it takes, honestly, like in order to
like get just get something going in your community, in
your town amongst your friends, like get your friends together
(49:38):
to talk about movies. It's like the easiest thing to do,
and at some point that grows and that you know,
that means that at some point there are more people
at screenings, there are more people weighing in on films online,
there are more people that become professional critics and professional filmmakers.
And that's how you change things, is that you just
(50:00):
start with like really really small things and you you know,
at some point the fucking snowball gets bigger and bigger
and bigger, and then we take the shit over, thank you,
and the world becomes better.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
So I love that plan. I love that plan, and
I completely agree. And Katie asked us, uh, they're planning
to do another film fest for Halloween, but gay obviously
and asked any suggestions. So I don't know if that's
a suggestion for what films to show or how to
put together a Halloween themed fest, but I would say
(50:32):
if you're doing if you're not doing shorts, then any
John Waters film would fit in. Yeah, but also put
out the call to other communities. When we had Drea
on the podcast a few episodes back, if you go
and listen a few episodes back, she gave a lot
of great pointers for being in the film fest community,
(50:55):
which she's been in for you know, decades. At this point,
and you can reach out to her directly. You know,
she she gave for info. She's around. But you can definitely,
you know, reach out a little bit and find if
you're looking for films. There are people who can help
you find films if you're looking for you know, how
to actually make the festival a little bit bigger or
show longer form. Reach out to people who are already
(51:15):
doing film festivals and just say, hey, I'm starting something
new and it's a great community of people who and
there are great people in it, like Drea who'd be
able to help you out more specifically.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah. Plus, I mean honestly, like there are so many
gay Halloween movies, Like it feels like every Halloween movie
is gay, Like every horror movie has is queer coded.
This I'm just thinking like the second Night M're Old
on Street movie, or like I saw the TV Globe,
which just came out recently, you know, just stuff like
I don't know, like I feel like horror is a
(51:49):
very gay genre and I feel like you will have
no problem finding stuff, so and that's exciting. The Chucky movie, yes,
you know, like, yeah, keep us posted, let us know
what you end up programming. If that happens so.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
But very very proud of you, KD. This is this
is monumentally huge for us to be part a small
part of this big thing that you've done for yourself.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Absolutely, thank you for writing so good. Okay, now I'm
feeling all warm and fuzzy, and I guess we have
to fucking end this podcast.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Finally, if you listen this far, salute because this wasn't
all over the bat bonus.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, this was nitro fueled. This is crazy. If you
want to email us, we are of course at I
saw what you did pot at gmail dot com and
uh we have a po box too though. If you
want to send us handwritten letters. I swear to god
we we we tease everybody say that we're going to
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We are going to do that on the next bonus.
(52:55):
We have to do it in the next one.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
It comes to you. You just got to say the
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Speaker 1 (53:05):
I'll do it.
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If it's coming from you. I don't want anyone else
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Speaker 1 (53:12):
But yeah, no, well I'll definitely scan and put in
the slack or something. Well, we'll figure it out, but
we'll do it for sure. Yeah. Uh.
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Speaker 1 (53:58):
Absolutely all right, Danielle, as always a fucking pleasure doing
this podcast with you.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Thank you so much. This was a blast, and I
just I feel like I've known you so deeply, so
much more deeply now. We covered a lot, We did,
covered a lot of ground. Just that Mike Myers FMK
brought me so much closer.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
God, had I known you wanted to like have a
romp in the sack with an old crusty Scottish guy.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Again, again again again.
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Hey, everyone, welcome to a bonus episode of I Saw
What You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho of
Danielle Henderson, and we're already giggling up. I know we
were giggling before we press record, so.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I've I've already sent you several all caps text
messages this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Okay, come out.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh yeah, we summer nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Okay, here, here's here's my thing. Okay, so y'all listen
to the episode that we did about Trouble without a
Cause and Last Picture Show in where we discussed how
Danielle and I are could cough as fuck if Trump wins. Okay,
(01:01):
I can't even say it. Okay. There was a moment
where I made a call, like a very public call
for shitty little vampires to contact the podcast. Okay. Now,
we got quite a few, quite a few entries for
the shitty little vampire, and I have to say a
(01:23):
lot of them were not shitty little vampires.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
A million was.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Literally like not goth enough to have these entries question
whether or not you are a little vampire, let alone
a shitty little vampire if you've got like outdoor gear on,
because that's the thing vampires do.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Not go outside like that. They do not they don't
participate in extreme sports. Don't y'all know this? Do you
remember what a vampire is? Like, let's remember, like what
vampires are. They have usually have like dye black hair,
really really dark like Box from CBS, like the darkest
(02:03):
dark hair you can get. I mentioned crushed velvet. I've mentioned,
you know, I don't really like long fingernails, but a
lot of them have long fingernails, and like those rings
that have like a bird's skull that goes over the
noth Oh my god, you know, like Peter Jewelry long hair.
(02:26):
Filed teeth, Danielle, you mentioned that in the text teeth
or filed.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We were coming up with rules for what a shitty
little vampire was to each other because I'm like, maybe
you need to be more specific about what your definition
of a shitty little vampire. So yeah, like file file
one or two teeth. You know those eye teeth like
on this side, on the sides of your front teeth,
(02:53):
file them down like commit really commit ghost white like
ghost where you can see veins.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like let's remember, people come on, like, let's remember what
a shitty little vampire could be? And I said shitty
little vampire, because I don't think if you're like on
the short side, I love it. I love a short
vampire king like whatever. Like like, I just shocked that
(03:24):
people were sending us being like I'm a shitty vampire,
and I'm like, are.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Daniel was like, I think they're misunderstanding the assignment. I
was like, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
That if you are hydrated, you're not a shitty little vampire.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh my god. Absolutely not have mister Burns crinkle like
if you're curled up like mister Burns from the Simpsons, Like,
come on.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Give me some part of your body. Has to have
creepy skin, like dry, wrinkly, like little creepy skin where
you're like, oh, you haven't been outside, you haven't had
to drop of water. Just sallow. We're looking for sallow. Yeah,
like like parched. I want someone who looks parched.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah. Stringy hair like ye, long, stringy, long hair.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Don't. We don't want these modern listates. Let's just say that,
no modern listats. If you watch.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Queena, if you watch Queena the Damned, and you and
you saw that version of the stat the woodstock ninety nine.
Lstat I'm not talking about you, Like, we're talking about
a classic shitty little vampire from the olden days, not
anything new. So I mean, I feel bad because I'm like,
(04:49):
thanks for responding to my request, But yeah, I think
I was talking about something a little different.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But well we've given some further instructions now, so shitty
little vampires activate. And this is also the thing, shitty
little vampires probably don't have Internet.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, they either don't have internet or they were the
first people on the Internet, exactly. You know, it's it's
it's either or. I mean, honestly, when it comes down
to it, it's really just an attitude.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The attitude of a raven knuckle ring is what we're looking.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh yeah, like we're we're gonna We've got a movie
coming up on our schedule that is probably as close
to the definition of shitty little vampire that I can
think of. And you gotta be a little grouchy, you
gotta be a little stuck in your ways. You gotta
be like not into you know, modern fandango, Like you
(05:51):
just gotta like be an old school dramatic bitch.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
If you if you have a phone of yourself smiling
does not apply right.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And most importantly, you're gonna want to have to create
a secret world with me. That's I think where it
really boils down to is that that's really like you
know what I mean? You gotta be like, who are
my kind? Like? I want to create an alternative universe
with you.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
A lot of shitty little vampire applicants have families that
ain't gonna fly in Millie's world. You can't create a
little world with Millie. If you got kids, you gotta
leave them kids.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We have to go underground, like if you've got people,
if you've got to, if you already got a partner, Listen,
I'm not Polly. I don't do it like that. Like
it's like, if we're gonna create blood art, you gotta
have like you gotta be free and uncomfortable. I can't
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so crazy. I can't do this truly gonna this is
what we're like literally making a casting call right now
on our podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Billy's planned Billy an Underworld takeover. You cannot bring children
to an underworld takeover. She's gonna be making art with blood.
They're gonna be pewter candles, candle holders everywhere asbestos will
(07:37):
be part of the part of the plan, whether you
like it or not. Think Lost Boys, you think they're like,
listen to what we said during Lost Boys, they're living
in filth. They're living in underground filth, old cars as beds. Yeah, like,
come on, y'all, you know what a she little vampire is.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I know. And I was gonna say it's gonna be
like a twenty one and up affair, but I think
he actually gotta be.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
At least oh, like, it's gotta be at least thirty
ye air a minimum. You can't. You can't twenty twenty.
You still probably have hope or like a zest for
life buried in you somewhere.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
But by by the time thirty comes around, it's like, yeah,
you've probably seen a little bit of darkness and you
might you know know what I'm talking about, but you know.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You need to have gray hair. Let's put it that way. Yeah,
natural natural gray hair.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
If you got a if you got a couple of
springs poking out, it's your time. That's it. Like, because
what I remember when I turned thirty, Yeah, that's when
I got like my first gray hair, and I was like, okay,
turning point, life change, life changing event.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't remember the age I was when I got
my first gray hair, because I just started. I just
started noticing them one day and I was like, all right,
that's happening, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was pretty It was probably
around thirty one thirty two. I didn't mind very much either.
Actually at that time I felt like being gray was
kind of like do you remember Stacy London from that show?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, with a little shock of gray hair, a
little shocked.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So I was I'm gonna be a salt and pepper
if genetics prove anything, I'm going to be a salt
and pepper gray, which I'd rather just be all gray. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I think that's my issue, is that I either want
to go entirely gray or not at all. Yeah, Like,
because the problem for me, like I think we've talked
about this is the texture of grays.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's just so.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, but you don't look like you have gray hair
at all.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I do. You can tell on the well now, when
my hair is not braided, you could tell a lot
in the front. It's in there somewhere. And then I've
started getting We've already discussed everyone has their experience with
the first gray pube. We don't need to get into it.
But I've started getting gray eyelashes, like some of my
eyelashes are gray, uh huh, and not eyebrows even just eyelashes.
(09:54):
And so I'm like, all right, my whole head is
in revolt. This is fine.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Have you had a gray ear hair yet? I haven't.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm just asking no, no, or I have had a
gray nose hair. I have had a gray nose hair,
and the chin hairs have been starting to get a
little gray. I am a fucking nightmare, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm I've had a gray eyebrow hair, and I was
freaked the fuck out by that.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So but you need to have it to be part
of the Shitty Little Vampire crew. Oh So, wherever the
grays are sprouting on your body, whether it's like your
nip hair, your fucking chin hairs, ear hairs, something's got
to be gray. And we do not need visual proof.
We just need you to know that your hair has
(10:41):
some part of you has to have gray hair. I
think we've weighed it down. I think we've mapped out
the Shitty Little Vampire a little bit more succinctly.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
We absolutely have. And so now if you do write
to us I saw dot com, you won't entirely embarrass yourself.
I just have to say I love the effort.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Here's the question I have for you. Do shitty little
vampires wear crocs? No, so you can't even be part
of your own club, bitch?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, First of all, you need to shut up.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I mean, unless you're gonna burn those crocs at the
first bonfire.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Look, here's my thing. I didn't ever told anybody that
I was a shitty little vampire. I was simply gonna
be a goth intense bitch like I. My vision for
this couple is basically me being angry like downward Spiral
(11:48):
era goth industrial bitch, and then my life partner would
be a shitty little vampire.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Gotcha. Okay, that is the clarity we also need. That
is a clarity we also need.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
However, I have to say I don't even think intense
goth industrial bitches were crocs either. That's just my take.
I could be wrong. There's probably goths lining up to
email us right now. And I saw she did pot
at gmail dot com. Who are saying listen, I got
crocs and I wear gibbits and I'm goth. So but
(12:24):
my like I said, my thing is a very like
specific style. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Like this is specific to you. These are rules for you.
You do not have to get upset with us if
the rules do not apply. These are Milli's rules for herself,
for her shitty little vampire underground coupling experience.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right, Like, I personally believe that. You know, if you
watched the first if you were at the first Lollapalooza
and you saw Nightish Nails perform and all of their
equipment failed, look at what they were wearing while that
was happening. If that's you. If it's not on their body,
it's not on you.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Do you have a pair of leather gloves that go
above your elbow? Ask yourself?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Or just like little little We'll have one, right, little ones,
we'll happy driving gloves like whatever you have to do
to take it off and then smack somebody with it.
That's like enough of a black glove.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, let's get to this fucking email before we have
zero listeners. We will have zero listeners left and we continue.
All right, We're gonna read your emails now is.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That you're going first?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're reading this one?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, I'll read the first one. The subject of the
email is Campbell's cup bo Chino. Hello, and this is
from Sabrina, who uses she her pronouns Hi Millian. Danielle.
I felt compelled to write in after listening to today's episodes,
specifically about so I married an ex murderer. I should
be grading my students projects right now, but instead I'm
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writing you and watching the film at this very moment
to say a few things, Danielle, thank you for your
continued vulnerability and willingness to be so open with your
life and experiences. Your continued ability to show vulnerability to
a bunch of strangers helps inspire me to try and
embrace vulnerability, which is something I'm working on in therapy. Uugh, Millie,
(14:22):
did you know that Sherry, the woman at the beginning
of Charlie's first poem, is the same actress who plays
Debbie in Singles aka your Instagram namesake Debbie Country. That's
a fact to that end. Here's a quick FMK Mike
Meyer's edition, and then we're just gonna skip that and
do that in a second. She ends her email with
(14:43):
By the way, I just turned forty four, and I
completely agree about not knowing how to be in your forties.
And I totally miss coffeehouses circa nineteen ninety four. And
I totally went to City Lights Bookstore in SF when
I visited two Love to You Both, Sabrina yay Ella.
We definitely knew that Sherry was Debbie from Singles. Also
(15:08):
was in the movie The Guest. She's been in everything definitely,
but good eye, good Eye, Sabrina. So I'm gonna give
you the FMK Mike Myers edition.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh easy, go ahead, all right?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
One Charlie or his dad, And so I married an
ex murderer Wayne in Wayne's World or Austin Power in
Austin Powers or Doctor Evil or a lot of oars,
A lot of options.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
A lot of swapping out of partners in this one.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
This isn't insanely easy.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
For me, go for it. It's kind of easy for me,
but you go first.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay. Is it weird that I might want to fuck
Doctor Evil? I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, but give us reason, show your work and maybe
we can come to some kind of understanding. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I mean, it'd just be like funny for like it
would be funny, uh I could you know basically like
take a peek of that giant fucking chest cavity that
he has, and I don't know, I like a scar,
a face scar like that, Like he looks very intriguing.
He looks like a villain. Obviously that might be kind
(16:36):
of fun for some role play opportunities, but ultimately just
a very short sash not you know, not a long
term thing. I could see that. I could see having
fun with doctor Evil for you know, just like maybe
a night or something. Marrying Charlie's fucking dad from sorry
(16:57):
married exporterer just my time husband, like real, real stuck
in his ways, grumpy loves the basity, rollers like like
a drunk, but like loves me implicitly, like he's like
you know what I mean, Like he's not going anywhere
at all. He knows exactly where where's home is, but
(17:23):
he's he's it's it's it's a little bit of a
bumpy ride. That's like that's a long term partner, to
be honest, like that's that is forty plus years of
marriage in a nutshell. And then I'm killing Wayne because
because he's just so like annoying sometimes he would annoy me, like,
(17:48):
I mean, like I love Wayne in certain certain regards,
but then I don't know, like he's he's like a
he acts like he's twelve. Yeah, Like that's just annoying sometimes.
But anyway, that's my answers. What about you?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Pretty solid, pretty solid answers. I am fucking Charlie's dad.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Nah, Like, are you just gonna straddle him in that
fucking yeah right herbit chair that he sits in right.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
In the bark a lounger. Just give him a day
or night of his life, probably day. He's a nightfucker anymore.
Oh Jesus, Just give him something to talk about for
the rest of his short life. Oh my god, he'll
(18:49):
be into it. It'll be weird and funny. And I'm
fuck Scottish guys before you, Lucky you, I got a
whole thing with the whole accents is kind.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Of cute love.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I'm fucking Charlie's dad. Why not? Oh my god, my mind.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Absolutely mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I am going to marry Wayne? Why because he's always
hanging out with Garth out of my house, out of
my face.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Should have known, should always in that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Basement doing that fucking show stay down there with your
little friend, only because I have to kill Austin Powers,
the most annoying character of all time.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like that's I. I wasn't even able to bring him
up at all.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Just annoying, just annoying to me. So by default a
marrying Wayne but out the gate, fucking Charlie's dad, no question,
didn't even hesitate.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah great. I actually, for some reason, I thought you'd
probably sleep with awesome Powers. I don't know why I
thought that. I was like, I don't know who's like, wow,
sweetish venus and larger is a little a little uh tantalizing,
but honestly, yeah, most annoying guy ever of all time.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And I can't even do I can't do anything with
doctor Evil. And I feel like I knew Charlie in
the nineties and I wouldn't want to touch him either
in any way to fuck mary or kill. So my answer,
my answers are true. My answers are solid. Great questions
to Brita A great FMK, thank you for emailing. Millie
is done for the day.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Oh I am I'm flushed down a toilet. I don't
even know what to say between having sex with doctor
Evil and you having sex with Charlie's dad from Sorry,
I would just what a dark place? Dark place? All right?
We have a voicemails.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I'm Millie and Danielle. My name is Emily and I
use she they pronounce, and I have a question for you.
I live with a forty year old dude who is
my partner, and a thirteen year old dude who is
my son, and they both really love movies. Would watch
one every day if we had time, and I'm probably
(21:26):
more in the middle. They get really bent out of
shape when I am scrolling on my phone while we're
watching a movie at home. I would never do that
in the theater and feel like I'm not paying attention
hard enough for them. I guess I'm a busy working
mom and sometimes watching a movie for me is just
(21:50):
a reason to space the hell out, and you know
it won't disappear off the earth. I could always watch
it again. What do you all think? Is it rude
to be on your phone when you're watching movies with others? Thanks?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Really love you both.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Absolutely fantastic question, Emily.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yes, oh my god, what's your opinion on this?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I have instant opinions and they are all in Emily's favor.
They laid out the questions so beautifully. Also love the
I love the I live with a forty year old
dude who's my husband, and a thirteen year old dude
who's my son. Because as that was happening, I was thinking,
wouldn't it be funny if they said, and a thirteen
(22:32):
year old dude who's my roommate. But but no, I
think if you are in your home and you are
watching a film with your family or with people in
your home, I'll break this down in a couple of ways.
With your family, do whatever the fuck you want. You
(22:53):
are absolutely correct that sometimes movies are just zoning out.
If you haven't picked the movie, if you're not sharing
an overwhelming interest in the movie, and you just want
to spend time with your family. You could hear the jokes.
You can understand what they're where they're coming from. You
can look up at the screen when you want. I
play games all the time when I'm watching movies by myself.
I constantly do. There's a puzzle game that I love
(23:15):
called It's a color matching puzzle game called I Love
Hugh two h u E t Oo constantly play in
that Animal Crossing Katamari Demasi. It's a zone out time.
So if you're at home and you're not watching something
with subtitles, do your thing. We're able to multitask in
a way now that I think we probably weren't in
(23:37):
the past, So it might be kind of jarring to
some people. I think that if you're in a movie theater,
shut everything the fuck down and put your eyes on
the screen. Absolutely. If you're fidgety or anxious or need
to do something with your hands, bring a stress ball
or some of those tiny magnets or whatever you gotta do.
But no screens, no other screens except for the movie
screen if you're in a theater. Also, there's a comprom
(24:00):
it could be made here where if it's a movie
that you pick, maybe you're not on your phone, and
there's there's just a lot of compromises I think that
could be made, But I don't think any of them
have to be you not being able to truly relax.
If relaxation is the name of the game, be on
that phone, your face. But this to me changes. If
(24:22):
you have just company, that's like family. If you have
company over friends, over whatever, pay attention. You're all doing
an experience together.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, see, I think that that's my that's my issue
is okay. I think it depends on the circumstance, to
be honest, because generally I believe, generally I believe that
you should not be using your phone. Yeah, definitely not
in the movie theater. Like I think obviously that's that's
(24:51):
been established. You and I both are like real hard
party line on not using phones and movie theaters. It's
a plague. Yeah, my if my feeling about doing it
at home, Okay, if you're alone, all bets are off.
Do whatever the fuck you want. You can be naked.
You could be like grooming your dog, you could be
you know, like writing, writing a thesis. I don't know,
(25:15):
just do it. Like, if you're alone, you do whatever
you want. If you're with Okay, here's the thing. If
you've if you don't have any stakes in the film
at the onset, like, if you haven't come together with
whomever you're with it's a roommate, your thirteen year old roommate,
if it's your thirteen year old son, if it's your partner, whoever,
If you have not collaborated on the title and you've
(25:36):
like wandered into the movie, like maybe ten fifteen minutes
after it started, then yes, you have no investment into it,
and if you pull out your phone, I guess that's
the way it's gonna be. However, if there is, if
somebody has asked you to watch a movie with them,
(25:57):
if you've collaborated on the title, like meaning you you
gave an opinion about watching something, then I believe you
should be paying attention because it feels like there's a
little bit more at stake there. So that's that's kind
of how I feel, And I guess when it comes
down to it, I feel like maybe if you want
to throw up percentages, you should be ninety percent not
(26:21):
on your phone, and then there's like a ten percent
special circumstance. But that's kind of how I feel.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I agree with that. I think you should. You should
at least try if you're making the effort. But I
also think maybe this is just their thing. Maybe this
is just your partner and your son, like, maybe this
is just their thing that they do together. And if
they don't want you to be on your phone and
you're not really interested or invested in the film, go
do something else. Go be on your phone watching something
(26:48):
else in another room, or on your computer or on
your phone or whatever. I think that it's okay if
it's just their thing, but if you want to be included,
another compromise possibly is give it a shot. Be like,
all right, I'm going to watch the first half hour
of this movie. If I'm really not feeling it. I
love you, guys, I want to spend time with you,
but I'm gonna be on my phone for a little bit,
like use Nearly's ninety ten percentage or whatever, but at
(27:09):
least try it. I think that, Yeah, whenever I'm watching
something brand new, I always pay full attention. If it's
something that i'm watching again and again or I've seen before,
I'll be on my phone playing a game, no problem.
And if people are over, I'm not on my phone.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So, but I think in the you know, it's it's
your family, it's the comfort of your own home. And
if you're saying that film helps you relax, then I
think there has to be some kind of compromise there
for y'all.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, I mean, to be completely honest with you, I've
been on my phone during movies, like I've gone over
to my friend's houses to watch movies. But here's the thing.
I never like, I didn't weigh in on the title.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
So so basically what in my case, I'm just sort
of like, if I'm just along for the ride, it
whatever the fuck y'all want to watch, I have no
opinion on it. Then if I am not into it
and I pull my phone out, I feel like, Okay,
that's fine. But if I'm like, yes, we should watch this,
I've waited on the selection and then I'm on my phone,
(28:13):
I feel like that's a little bullshit. But that's that's
just me. I mean, I'm I have my own opinions.
But that's this is such a good question because yeah, yeah,
people have been people have This is a sensitive topic.
People get really upset sometimes when they feel like they're
trying to show you this like thing and then if
you don't pay attention. I've been in that position, so
(28:36):
it's like, you know, I don't know, but you got
to feel it for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's why I think there could be a I will
give it a shot for thirty minutes or an hour
or whatever. It is, like if they're trying to bring
you into an experience, then yeah, definitely pay attention and
try it for as long as you can stand it.
But yeah, I think i'd like to hear what I
don't know. I'm kind of interested what our listeners think
because I think it's a very contentious topic as well.
(29:02):
But my general to ease this all out, my general
rule is if I'm alone, I do whatever I want
when I'm watching movies. If I'm watching movies with people,
all devices are away and I pay attention to the
experience and I'm having with somebody.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Else, yeah, good, good, good good.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I don't have a family, though, I don't have anyone
else in my face all day, so I.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Know, I was like, yeah, usually I'm watching movies alone
all the time, so I don't I'm not even affected normally.
So we have this Why don't you read this next
one because it feels like it's all about you.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So the subject of our next email is gas Station,
Buttered Hard Rolls and Summer Camp Movies. Hey ladies, longtime listener,
first time writing in. I grew up in Michigan and
currently live in Colorado, but love Stuart's gas Station, which
seems to only be in New York. I spent my
childhood going to summer camp in upstate New York and
(29:57):
became a loyalist of Stuart's root beer fl My kids
now go to the same camp and we will always
stop for a root beer float while in town. This
time I glanced and saw a buttered hard role by
the cash register. Normally I'm creeped out by gas station food,
but after hearing Danielle preach the way of the gas
(30:17):
station buttered roll, I picked one up. It was fucking delicious.
I would like to thank Danielle for bringing awareness to
this and to the person who gave that role the
generous slab of butter. In the spirit of summer camp.
What are your favorite summer camp movies? Mine is Meatballs
As a kid of the eighties, You bet your ass
we watched it at camp for movie night. Totally appropriate
(30:40):
for kids. Bill Murray talking about Sexual Awareness Week is
burned into my ten year old psyche forever love the show.
Love you both, Emily, and I'm guessing it's a different
Emily than the Emily that just send us a voicemail.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, I think we have many Emily's that listen to
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
But listen, there's a lot of things that I think
I take for grants in my life, and I that
I there are a lot of things that I thought
were just public knowledge, including the buttered roll. But it's
a regional delicacy that I'm happy to bring awareness to.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I am so happy that people love this thing just
as much as you do. Like, the buttered role is
essentially your three eleven if you think about it, like
I love that you love them so much. I've never
had one, and I'm dying to have one.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Like I talk about it, you are a couple of
weeks away. You are a couple of weeks away from
having one.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Absolutely no, that is gonna be Like the minute you
pick me up at the airport, we are driving to
some gas station. I'm fucking going.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Ham gas station, dunkin Donuts. This is the the hit,
the morning hit. Yeah, when I know, I'm setting myself
up for a good fucking day, I'm getting a buttered
roll in a dunk.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You're gonna see my ass on my Instagram account eating
this thing. Just know when it's when it happens, it's
going to be very public.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm going to record it the way people record their
first child's birthday. Cake, like that's how I'm going to
record it. Yeah, of course, like like a gender reveal party.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Have you been to a Stuart's gas station?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, Stuart's is I didn't realize they were New York specific,
but I think they are also a regional thing. I've
seen Stuart's SODA's and other places I've lived, and they're
the kind of the same brand. But yeah, they're gas stations. Yeah,
to my knowledge, I mean, because they had the same
logo and everything, but they definitely it's when you're getting
(32:43):
it right from the source, like fresh from the tap,
root beer, nothing like it. And they're kind of like
old timey shops, like a little old timey cutie. They're
they're you know, they're newer, they build new ones and stuff,
but they're kind of like, you know, no, they just
have a vibe to them where you can find some
Grandma candy there if you need it. If you haven't
seen a Necho Wafer since the eighties, go to a
Stewart you'll see him.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah. It's kind of like a cracker barrel, but not
a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, like a gas station cracker barrel.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, Okay, because I was wondering I was like, because
I've seen Stuart SODA's and I was like, I don't know,
maybe that's the same place controversial opinion. I am not
really into root beer.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Ooh, that's all right, birch beer. Have you try to
birch No, you don't like any of them, none of
them tree beers.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I like gin, I like ginger beer. Is that does
that count?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Like I love say family ish, I think.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I love a Moscow mule. If you're wondering, I mean
a fucking love of Moscow mule. Honestly, maybe too much.
But yeah, I'm not really into root beer, uh, even
if you put ice cream in it. But I respect, Yeah,
I respect the fun out of people who love root
(34:01):
beer and these buttered rolls. I love that you're vindicated
about these roles. Now, as for summer camp films, what
what's your take on this?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know, I don't. I don't have personal experience with
summer camp. So the summer camp movie never really hit
me as hard, but they were very prevalent in the eighties. Yeah,
and I remember things like like Creep Show and All
the Summer. All the summer camp movies that I can
remember watching were very camp or very horror based. Yeah,
(34:36):
so sleepway camp like you know, yeah, like that, But
I don't have like a favorite favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah. Oh mine is definitely Little Darlings, which we've talked
about on the show before. Sleep Away Camp is probably
my second favorite. But yeah, I mean, honestly, like it's
it's funny now that you say that. Do people even
really send their kids to sleep away camp anymore? It's
usually just like day camps and shit, right, that's a
(35:04):
good question.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I mean, there are definitely some that maybe you'll go
for a week or two, but it's not like a
whole summer long experience to my knowledge, I think it's
just been like a much shorter time time frame.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Now, yeah, my nephews went to like stem camp this summer,
I know, but it was a day thing, so they
go all day and then my sister would pick them up.
And then I kept thinking, I don't even know if
my sister would let my like she doesn't let her
kids go spend the night pretty much. Ever, so the
idea that they got a camp for two months would
(35:40):
be out of the question.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But our generation couldn't wait to get rid of children
for as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Oh, I yes, that is exactly what my point is.
I think ultimately is that kids of the eighties, and
I mean the idea that there's a proliferation of some
camp movies in the eighties is because eighties parents were
like fucking get rid of them, like give them to
the Poultergeist. If not that, send them to send him
(36:10):
to Sleepway Camp.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Those are your options in the summer summer camp Poltergeist.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, we're trying to go on toward Bob Seeker. We
don't need these kids around. Emily incredible email. Thank you
so much and.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I'm glad you got your buttered role experience. Come on
back to New York next summer and stock.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Up absolutely all right, So our next email is called
too Many Things and a Question and it was written
by Steph in Ottawa using she her l pronouns Hi.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
All.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
First off, love ya. I can't tell you how amazing
it is to have two such smart and funny women
in my ear every week that are my age. It
was something I didn't know I needed. Thank you for
sharing yourself with your listeners. In your most recent episode,
Crack Open a Party Gay, you talked about the movies
you loved in middle school and how important that phase
(37:09):
of life can be. My husband and I do movie
nights at least one time a week, and we are
in a eighties slash nineties nostalgia phase right now. This
has been thinking about who I looked up to in
movies growing up. I distinctly remember watching Crocodile Dundee and
thinking that Sue was the picture of sophistication and the
(37:29):
type of woman I wanted to be. She had a
badass career, traveled the world, and was sexy doing it.
Upon a rewatch, I realized she was sleeping with her editor,
her dad owned the paper she worked for, and she
was mostly a damsel in the stress in the outback.
For Buck's sake, my question for you, who is a
character or movie that fell from grace for you after
(37:53):
a rewatch? Most of our rewatches are great. We recently
watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer in honor of the late
Old Sutherland Rip Canadian King and Laconic OAF and it
made my preteen heart very happy. All the best, Steph
in Ottawa. PS. Danielle, I just finished your book and
could not put it down. Thank you for sharing your
(38:15):
story and your vulnerability in both your book and on
the pod pps Millie, you are the fucking coolest and
so I worried an ax murderer does hold up?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Aw, Steph. This is a great email and a great
question that I don't really have an answer for. This
is not an easy one for me to answer, but
I think Milly has an answer about. I mean, I
just is a character or a movie that fell from
grace after a rewatch, I.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Feel like this podcast is a rolling diary of characters
that have fallen through grace. I mean I can think
of JD from Heather's Yeah, Ethan Hawk from Reality Bites,
Reality Bites, like who else that have we talked about?
Being like, actually that person sucked many many things, I think,
(39:02):
But I mean, this is just such a boring ultimately
a boring answer, But I just kept thinking about Jenny
from Forrest Gump. I feel like the tide really turned
on her. Don't you think, like.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
In what way she died? Of aids for Jenny?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Because Okay, Jenny had a lot of problems, but she
was also really selfish and she played with Forrest Gump's
heart and I think that's a lot a lot of
people were thinking, is that she was using Forrest Gump
as like a place to run too after her life
went to shit. And maybe that's not fair for Forrest
(39:46):
Gump because he loved her so much.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
She also kept that kid from him for a very
long time.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
M H self just said selfish.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And again, don't get those email fingers going. I'm not
saying anyone who doesn't tell someone about their child is selfish.
I'm saying Jenny is selfish because Forrest Gump loved the
shit out of her and was always there for her,
and there was genuinely no reason for her to not
tell him he had a kid, right.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I'm just saying I feel like I feel like I've
perhaps been in a Forrest Gump scenario where I've given
endless amounts of time, energy and care to someone who
ultimately was just passing through a lot of times. And
(40:38):
that's on me. I'll and maybe Forrest Gump did have
a moment where he was like, I'm culpable in my
own misery here, Like, let's get serious, I don't have
to open the fucking door whenever she rolls through town.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
I don't think he could formulate that thought process. I
don't think he lived his life that way.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, I think he was.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
He was all heart and he didn't judge super positive,
super open, and she knew that and took advantage of that.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Here's what I would say if I had been Forrest
in our nation's capital, go to that black panther party
and realizing that she was basically dating some scumbag and
she didn't want she didn't want you know, me and
what we had in our history, and she like she
just could never connect on the fact that he was
(41:29):
the best dude to her, and then she just like
kind of flauded that shit in his face in Washington, DC.
I'm like, listen, I would have dropped her ass. Then
I would have left, like go on your hippie bus,
like get away from me, like honestly, like and she
(41:50):
wasn't even on heroin at that moment. She was probably
just smoking a lot of weight. I don't know, am
I being too harsh on Jenny.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
There? There is there such a thing. This is your opinion.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well, but you know as well, when I first watched
the first like twenty five times I watched the movie
in the nineties, I was like, I don't know, I
kind of thought, oh, you know, this is just such
a like a they're gonna end up together and she's
just messed up, but she understands that he's her person.
And now I'm just like, I don't know, like, yeah,
(42:27):
this is maybe this, you know, just the years talking,
but I was I was upset with her.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I There's always been something that bothered me about how
their love story was framed. And I think we hit it.
I think this this hits the nail on the head
that she was taking advantage of him and she fell
from grace for me, after I watched it enough times
to realize that that that and this is also again
the film is told through a mail lens. Yeah, so
(42:54):
it's not surprising to me that they would make this
fucked up pixie sixties hippie girl, yes, be kind of
lacking emotionally, so that they could use that to bump
up the humanity of Forrest Gump, which in my opinion,
they did not need to do. I think he was
(43:14):
already a character full of, like you said, heart and
wonder and grace and love. Yeah, but to put her
in his life and then make her so diabolical to
him seems very male lens shit that we're looking at.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah, I just I mean, I love Forest Gump's
ability to take someone back over and over and over
again after they've completely like just fucked off.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
To me, I just am like, what's her angle? Like?
She just I mean, I get her angle is that
she needs to go find herself and she doesn't need
to be booed up when she's like trying to figure
out her own shit. She comes from trauma. Yes, it's awful,
but I just I don't know. Again, maybe that is
because the men Will involved, the story ended up being
(44:04):
a little less complicated than it. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, I think I think she I think she does
fall from grace after a few rewatches, but I think
that if the movie were more generous to her story throughout,
she wouldn't have had that fall from grace. I think
that if it was if it was amplified more, I
think that it's and I haven't seen it in a while,
but I think it was clear to me and watching
it that they had a deep connection that she was
(44:30):
aware of and maybe didn't always know how to act on,
possibly because of her trauma, possibly because of you know,
other shit. But I still think she treated him like
a real, real fucker.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Man. Yeah, now I've walked, I've walked all the way
through a Fall from Grace to like justice for Jenny. No,
what am I thinking right now?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Stay stay on fall from Grace? Say stay the course,
Stay the course. You made a compelling argument, and again
let us know your thoughts on it. But I think
that I can absolutely get there with you if there
is a fall from Grace, because Jenny was not a
fully realized character. Unfortunately, if you got three hours to
(45:14):
show far As Gump going all over the fucking world,
you can't take twenty minutes of that to show Jenny
going through a little emotional Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Also I hold space for people who are just shitty. Yeah,
like people can just be shitty, Like they can have
like bad histories and not work on themselves and just
treat people like shit.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
And that is a most most people on this planet unfortunately. Yeah,
all right, Well we've walked Jenny to Ottawa God in
a Fall from Grace.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I caught a psychoanalysis profile of Jenny from Forrest Gump.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Let's get that essay in the next book.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
That's right, Well, we have one more email, and if
you'll read it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
I'll be so I would love to read this. So
the emails subject is hosted my first film fest, thanks
to you. And this is from Kad who uses shi
the pronouns Hi friends. I just got home from hosting
my first film fest. I have loved film for as
long as I can remember. It's always been my hyperfixation
(46:21):
and something you can't shut me up about. I was
so excited when I heard Karen and Georgia first promote
y'all's podcast in whatever the fuck year that was. I
was so stoked to hear two women of color cut
up about films and having me bust into ugly ass
giggles so hard. Y'all showed me that there was a
future in this passion for someone like me, and I
went back to school as a ninth grade dropout, now
(46:43):
in my thirties and am now on the tail end
of a degree in my school's radio, television and film program.
I produced and shot a film about the history of
one of my city's oldest gay bars for a project
in video production, and me and my buddy decided to
build a miniqu were film fest of shorts around it
for Pride. There were suggested donations at the door and
(47:05):
we ended up making a stack for a local nonprofit
that supports homeless LGBTQ plus youth in that area. I
feel I've found my path helping tell people's stories and
building and giving back to my community, a community that
has given me everything. Shelter, a shoulder to cry on,
food to eat, family, joy, love, education, and endless entertainment.
(47:29):
I just want to say that I'm grateful to the
two of you for showing me away to exist and
participate in film as a woman. Also, thank you both
for writing books, and thank you Danielle for sharing your
life with us through Ugly Cry. My inner child healed
a bit. We're planning on doing another fest for Halloween,
but gay obviously any suggestions. Thanks from a weird girl
(47:53):
in South Texas, and I hope to see y'all live
one day. KD. This warms my heart so much. And
after we just spent the last hour being fools, no,
I'm like, do we deserve this credit? KD? This is
all you. You have done something so monumental, and I'm
(48:15):
so proud of you. This is this is huge. Every
step that you've taken to find your place and to
find yourself has led you to something so beautiful and
that also manages to give back, and I think that
that is truly a gorgeous way to live life. And
I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, oh my gosh, this is such a nice email. Honestly,
like I do think, oh my god, we spent an
hour being absolute idiots and then this email comes to
town and is like very heartwarming, very sweet. It's awesome, Like, dude,
(48:54):
this is like why I want to do anything in life,
is that I'm hoping that, like, you know, other people
get into this world, especially people who are shut out
of this world, of this film world, Like fuck it,
like let's work together, Like come on, Like I'm tired
of it being just for the fucking boys, and I'm
(49:15):
just tired of it being for the fucking like tis
set white rich guys, you know what I mean. And
it's just like we should be doing exactly this, and
it's like all it takes, honestly, like in order to
like get just get something going in your community, in
your town amongst your friends, like get your friends together
(49:38):
to talk about movies. It's like the easiest thing to do,
and at some point that grows and that you know,
that means that at some point there are more people
at screenings, there are more people weighing in on films online,
there are more people that become professional critics and professional filmmakers.
And that's how you change things, is that you just
(50:00):
start with like really really small things and you you know,
at some point the fucking snowball gets bigger and bigger
and bigger, and then we take the shit over, thank you,
and the world becomes better.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
So I love that plan. I love that plan, and
I completely agree. And Katie asked us, uh, they're planning
to do another film fest for Halloween, but gay obviously
and asked any suggestions. So I don't know if that's
a suggestion for what films to show or how to
put together a Halloween themed fest, but I would say
(50:32):
if you're doing if you're not doing shorts, then any
John Waters film would fit in. Yeah, but also put
out the call to other communities. When we had Drea
on the podcast a few episodes back, if you go
and listen a few episodes back, she gave a lot
of great pointers for being in the film fest community,
(50:55):
which she's been in for you know, decades. At this point,
and you can reach out to her directly. You know,
she she gave for info. She's around. But you can definitely,
you know, reach out a little bit and find if
you're looking for films. There are people who can help
you find films if you're looking for you know, how
to actually make the festival a little bit bigger or
show longer form. Reach out to people who are already
(51:15):
doing film festivals and just say, hey, I'm starting something
new and it's a great community of people who and
there are great people in it, like Drea who'd be
able to help you out more specifically.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah. Plus, I mean honestly, like there are so many
gay Halloween movies, Like it feels like every Halloween movie
is gay, Like every horror movie has is queer coded.
This I'm just thinking like the second Night M're Old
on Street movie, or like I saw the TV Globe,
which just came out recently, you know, just stuff like
I don't know, like I feel like horror is a
(51:49):
very gay genre and I feel like you will have
no problem finding stuff, so and that's exciting. The Chucky movie, yes,
you know, like, yeah, keep us posted, let us know
what you end up programming. If that happens so.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
But very very proud of you, KD. This is this
is monumentally huge for us to be part a small
part of this big thing that you've done for yourself.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Absolutely, thank you for writing so good. Okay, now I'm
feeling all warm and fuzzy, and I guess we have
to fucking end this podcast.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Finally, if you listen this far, salute because this wasn't
all over the bat bonus.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, this was nitro fueled. This is crazy. If you
want to email us, we are of course at I
saw what you did pot at gmail dot com and
uh we have a po box too though. If you
want to send us handwritten letters. I swear to god
we we we tease everybody say that we're going to
like crack open the physical mail because it is wild.
We are going to do that on the next bonus.
(52:55):
We have to do it in the next one.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
It comes to you. You just got to say the
word okay, scan the chat or just send them, send
them to me, send them to me in a box.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
If it's coming from you. I don't want anyone else
directly knowing where I live.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
But yeah, no, well I'll definitely scan and put in
the slack or something. Well, we'll figure it out, but
we'll do it for sure. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
And you can also find us on our social media.
Speaker 5 (53:25):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
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Blue Sky and Twitter. You can also leave us a
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Speaker 1 (53:43):
That's right, And there's still March available. If you go
to exactly right store dot com you can find it.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
There are new bonus episodes just like this one that
pop up on the main feed every third Thursday of
the month.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Absolutely all right, Danielle, as always a fucking pleasure doing
this podcast with you.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Thank you so much. This was a blast, and I
just I feel like I've known you so deeply, so
much more deeply now. We covered a lot, We did,
covered a lot of ground. Just that Mike Myers FMK
brought me so much closer.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
God, had I known you wanted to like have a
romp in the sack with an old crusty Scottish guy.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Again, again again again.
Speaker 5 (54:35):
Note bye, This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Our senior producer is Casey O'Brien. Episode mixing and theme
music by Tom Bryfogel, artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive
producers are Georgia hart Start, Karen kil Gareff, and Daniel Kramer.
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