Irish Cinema & The Banshees of Inisherin (2022)

Top o’ the morning to ya! In celebration of St. Patrick’s Day, Millie and Casey are going full Irish on this week’s episode of Dear Movies, I Love You. In a change of pace, both the hosts’ Film Diaries are filled with reality television! They then dive right into a discussion of Irish cinema and the 2022 film The Banshees of Inisherin. And finally, they open up their mailbag and respond to several questions for their Film Advice segment. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Casey, Oh Brian, Hi Melie to Jericho. How are you.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Be honest?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Take a look at it.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Take a good look at me right now?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Uh huh? Do you think cool?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Okay? Do you think I am dressed like Justin Bieber?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
No, I would never say that. You do it Justin
Bieber No, no, no no, but.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm dressed way too young for my age. And you
must admit.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
That you look like I mean, you look you're looking
kind of jen X. You look like you can work
in a record store right now. Oh you you you
she's wearing she's all in black, black hoodie, black baseball cap.
It's just like Steve Albanie.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I think it's the banks because you know, I put
my bangs, I have my swoopy bangs out.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
You do kind of like scrillicks.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh no, thank you for see. I don't know why.
I like pop on camera for the first time today
and I'm like, oh, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
What is this is? It is shocking working from home
seeing not a soul and then popping on your zoom
and the horror of seeing your own reflection is really
it is a startling sight to see.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I do feel like I look like an emo kid
with a swoopy bang outside of a hat. Okay, just
as long as we're clear.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
On that, well, fabulous, Well, Millie, we have too much
to talk about today. We of course have another installment
of our film Diary segment. That's the segment where we
talk about the movies that we've seen in the past week.
We've recorded very recently, so might be a bit late.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It might be a variation on the film part of.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
The film Diary. Yes, I have been watching things that
might disturb people, frankly, and we'll get into that. But
what else are we talking about today, Millie?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, this is gonna be an episode that that you're
gonna have to like guide me through a little bit,
because we're gonna talk about Irish cinema basically, that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And the last time I guided an episode was the
Garden State episode, and I feel like you were just
really unsettled by that whole experience. So hopefully we have
a more positive one this time. And because like you said,
we're gonna be talking about Irish cinema, we're gonna be
talking about a little movie called The Panchees. I've in
a share and from twenty twenty two. Uh, I can't
wait to talk about this movie. I love this movie

(02:34):
and I love movies from Ireland and can't wait to
dive right into that.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
And then what else do we have for this?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, you know, we've had so many wonderful questions from listeners,
voicemails and actual letters, and we just we have so
many of them that we need to dedicate an entire
segment to it. So we're doing something I'm calling Film
Advice Ultra where we go through a few film advice
questions that have been sent in and so that be
really fun that we'll be doing at the end of
the episode. But that's it.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, that's it. Well, all this and so much more
on this very very good episode of Dear Movies, I
Love You, Dear.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I love you, and I've got to know you love
me to check the box.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of Deer Movies, I
Love You. This is the film podcast where you and
I and us are having a tumultuous, torrid, spicy romance
with motion pictures.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Very spicy. We're down bad for movies, as they say,
the children say.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
That is right. My name is Millie de Chercho.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
And I'm Casey O'Brien cool and we are.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, we're gonna we have a lot to talk about today.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh my god, we have so many things.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
We've already established it. I look like an Emo kid
from the early two thousands.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
We did a picture there, right.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
We've established that you are Irish.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So I don't know what else? What else can we,
you know, possibly prep them for for the rest of
this time?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, quickly before we get into our film diary, I
believe you have a film gripe to deposit upon our ears.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I don't know. That's like a rapper sound. Did you
know that that is a money counter?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh? Is that what that is? I don't know. I
don't know if I ever put that together. Have you
ever heard rap song and they go, yes, I have.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
That's a money counter. At least that's what I think
it is. But I have a film grape. Yes, I
mean I reluctantly bring up this film grape only because
I don't want to, Like I always feel like every
time I say anything, I'm calling someone out that I know. Well,
that's that's am I like sub tweeting. Okay, Well, anyway,

(05:05):
hopefully this won't destroy the people that I love in
my life. But Mike, rape is that I have recently been,
you know, going to see a couple things in the
movie theater or in the past, like I would say
six months, let's let's call it six to eight months. Okay,
there has been a rash of of this and I'm

(05:29):
and I'm saying this as a person who participates in
this very thing that I have a gripe about, okay,
which is that the time at which the movie starts,
that's published on the website, in the newspaper, on social
media is a lot of the times different than the
actual time the movie starts when you get to the theater.

(05:50):
And it's because these intros are so long.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Now are you referring to the trailers or the little
like there's because now it's a mess. There's like trailers,
that's one segment, but there's also like trivia and Maria
Minuno's talking to us, you know that type of shit.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Oh, I'm talking about that, plus the actual in person
pomp and circumstance of people who are introducing a movie
doing their own trivia, doing their own games and T
shirt throws and bands. I've seen full bands play before

(06:38):
a movie.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Now, but are they in person or is this just
on screen?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's a mixed bag. A lot of it is in person.
Sometimes it cuts to a zoom and it's like a
pre recorded little ditty. Now I want to make a distinction. Okay,
I actually actually should make a couple of distincts.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's number one, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
If it's published, it there's a talk before for the
film in some way. It interview a lot, either live
or on a zoom. If you've told me that there's
going to be forty five minutes to an hour worth
of you know, a conversation with the filmmakers or with
a historian or with something like that, again, I've done

(07:19):
this thing. This is like part of my job. Right,
If you've prepped me for the idea that there's gonna
be this like long thing before the movie actually starts,
I'm down at a lot of times. I'm going for
that specifically, right.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's just these surprise ones that you weren't prepping for
are the ones that give you the adjuta. Yes, And
it's and.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It's usually because it's it's it's usually like a series
that I will attend. And I got to say this
happened in La too.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Okay, so this is not this is this is not
Atlanta specific.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Right, this is a country wide phenomenon. Yeah, where you
go to someone's regular programming event, right, say, it's like
at a movie theater. There's a weekly night or a
monthly night where you know, the people who program it
and who organize it show up. They're usually like boots

(08:18):
on the ground, like chit chatting about the movie. Sometimes
they're doing some little fun skits or interviews and stuff
like that. Right, So that part I feel like has
gotten so long, and that is the part that I'm
not prepared for, Like I think, Okay, if you want
to kind of get up and be like, hey, guys,

(08:39):
welcome to you know, Casey's Kookie Film Fun.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
You know this is the you know the old show
Casey's Cookie Film Fun, You're right.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
And then you're just like, hey, I'm Casey, you know, welcome.
Here's a little bit of housekeeping, here's a little bit
about the film. You know, here's maybe like a couple
of T shirts. I'll ask a couple of questions. That
is fine, but that you should really keep a cap
on that because quite honestly, if it goes longer than
fifteen minutes. Maybe I'm like, yo, like what am I doing?

(09:16):
Am I watching a full variety show before the actual movie?
Like what is happening?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I hear you, I totally hear you. I think I
have a whole other thing to go off on about
film Q and AS. I feel like we could dedicate
a whole episode to the film Q and A.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Tell me about.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
But part of it is that it's just so long,
and like sometimes these movies, if a movie is over
two hours and there's additional programming added to it, who
has the stamina and energy to sustain all of that?
I mean, what a nightmare?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Listen, God, let me tell you right now. Fairly recently
I went to go say movie. The movie TRT was
like two thirty one, two thirty two, so we're talking
two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
It was being put on by, you know, one of
the local movie theaters here, and there was supposed to
be a little bit of a pomp and circumstance. I
was prepared for pomp and circumstance, okay, Like I said,
we were like, okay, so we're good. We're next door
having a beer, and we were like Okay, it looks
like the movie's supposed to start eight or the events
suposted start at eight. Maybe we walk over like ten

(10:27):
minutes after to finish our beers, you know, like we
hate to show up, you know, obviously like in the
middle of kind of like a fandango, but you know whatever,
we're our check is late, right, so we show up
probably like eight ten and think, okay, well, maybe the
movie is gonna come on in the next like five minutes.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, that movie.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Started damn near nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh my, there was I would have been sleep. Oh
my god, sleep.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
There was so much going on, dude, I couldn't even
tell you. We like walked and we sat in the
back and we were just like, oh so there's more trivia.
Oh so there's more you know, personal stories about the
first time you saw this movie. Oh so now there's
like multiple people coming on stage, and there's like all
kinds of like giveaways. There's a person who came up

(11:19):
with a ukulele. I was like, when the ukulele came out,
I was like, we.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Are fucked Ooh yeah, a real harbinger of evil.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Dude. I was like, so that thing that started, damn
near nine o'clock, and I just sat there going Christ
that we're gonna be here till midnight and it is
only Wednesday, like I and I said to myself, like,
this is this has happened to me many times, and
I've got to say something about it, because it is.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, you have a voice, and you need to be
the voice for the voiceless in this situation.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
So, I mean, is that not that's a great that's
a formidable.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, that's great, Ripe. I mean, I think that's what
people away from the theater in general is that it's
like I'm gonna you know, you think of watching a
movie as like winding down time, but if you're doing
it somewhere outside of your home, you're not really winding down,
you know. And so I think that puts a lot
of people off. They want to be at home on
their phone, relaxing, but instead they're bombarded, sabotaged by these

(12:21):
random other events before the movie. It can be too
taxing for the general public. You know.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It feels very like it's like a felliniesque like uh
modern like theatricals circus, yes, where I'm just like, what
am I watching this? Feels like performance art. I understand
that everyone's here to like be excited about this movie,
but that also like it is really eaten up into

(12:48):
some time totally, and so I just I don't know,
I feel like I need to put foot down.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Gripe accepted.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm sorry to hear that. But maybe we can move
on to something a little bit more positive. Okay, this
is our film diary, and yet, like we mentioned at top,
a little bit of a light week. But Millie, would
you like to start with what you've been watching this
past week?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, so listen, you already mentioned we haven't. It's been
a quick turnaround in between episodes, so I gotta I
gotta admit I haven't really watched an actual motion picture
in the past couple of days. However, I did rewatch
a very fascinating, slash comforting docu series. I would call

(13:38):
it a docu series perhaps, but it's not even anywhere
streaming on the platforms, so it also feels like it's
like a very weird thing to watch. But okay, everybody
knows that twenty twenty four was my big K pop
discovery year. Yes, if you listen to my last podcast,

(13:59):
I saw what you did. You probably picked up towards
the end of LASH or the mid to end of
twenty twenty four that I suddenly figured out what K
pop is and I got really into the band. Well,
I got into two bands really. One was a band
called TXT Tomorrow by Together, which I actually saw in concert,
my very first K pop concert, and I was radicalized

(14:20):
by it. But then I ended up getting into BTS
because quite honestly, the biggest K pop band at least
by American standards or you know wherever world standards, and
a friend of mine, Eddie was is totally responsible for this,
by the way. So I watched this series that they did,
because they have a lot of content, right, Like, when
I'm talking about content, I'm talking about not just like

(14:41):
music videos and interviews and stuff like documentaries. They have
their own web series where they like play games. They're
just they're completely iced out in content, right. But they
did this documentary series called In the Soup and it's
called it's soop not s o up.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well. In the Soup is a movie from the early nineties,
that's right, Steve Chemy, Yeah, and it's a black and
white artsy movie that was a big hit at Sun
Dance and it's about a screenwriter in New York. But anyways,
this is definitely not that.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Although I wish, I only wish that Steve Buchemy hung
out with Bets. That would be quite quite amazing.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, this is a lab that would be what a collab.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
This is a series. There's actually been two seasons of it,
but it's a series where basically they go on vacation
together to the woods or something interesting. They go. At
least the first season was that they rented some kind
of lake house and it was like they were all
just like chillin' and it was like real, I mean,

(15:52):
you want to talk about Indy. It was like almost
like a minute by minute kind of like let's just
see what like seven friends do. Like there wasn't a
lot going on, and that's I think part of the
charm of it. They were all just like hanging out
in basketball shorts and hoodies and just kind of like
sitting around playing computer games and building legos and cooking

(16:15):
for each other, which is my favorite part of it
because it's very it's nice to watch people cooking for
other people, I realized, but it's very peaceful and it's
very like serene, and you know, it's like, oh, yeah,
here are these like really famous people. But it's like,
I mean, it's just imagine like going on watching Beyonce
go to on vacation or something, just like no makeup

(16:37):
to wearing regular clothes and you're just like oh, and
it is kind of like a I made it if
it feels like a documentary, like a like a minute
by minute direct cinema, if you will. So I know
that's big words, but I'm just saying, but I watched
the first rewatch the first season of it, and it's
lovely and you don't even really have to know anything

(16:59):
about them enjoy it. I feel like.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
So anyway, well, very good for my film diary this week,
I would say I got very far away from film
in general. I ended up watching a lot of episodes
of a little show called Love Is Blind, which I
don't know if people outside of Minneapolis are appreciating on

(17:24):
the level that I am, but it's a reality TV
show and it's the episodes are kind of long, and
I watched a bunch of them this week, so it
sort of took over my viewing habits all week long
and really didn't get around to any films. Besides, the
benches have been a sheeran this week. Have you ever
watched this show?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
What is?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Why?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Is it a Minneapolis thing?

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Though?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
The premise of the show is that you date somebody
without seeing them. So there's like a guy side and
a girl's side of this kind of facility, and they
meet in these rooms where there's a screen in between
them so they can hear each other but they can't talk,
and they get to know, you know, they date several
women and eventually they propose to somebody without having seen them,

(18:15):
you know, sight unseen. So that's like the first third
of the season is in these pods, you know. Then
the last two thirds is they meet the people in
real life. They have to live together and then get married,
and it takes place in a different city each season,

(18:35):
and it is ridiculous and very silly and horrifying because
there's always a couple that comes out when they do
the big reveal of seeing each other for the first time.
You can always tell when people are so turned off
by how somebody looks like, God, I hate them. Yeah,

(18:55):
it's sick. It's it's very cringe at times, but it
is so addicting and awful. And so this season is
in Minneapolis, and I'm loving all the Minnesota stuff going
on in it. I've only seen the first six episodes
by the time of this recording, so waiting to see,

(19:17):
you know, who ends up with each other. But that
sort of has taken over my life. And in some
ways I wouldn't say it's it's it's cinematic. In some
ways you could say, but.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, I'm thinking it's cinema.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
If there's any other loves Blind viewers that listen to
this podcast, please write in. I want to know who
else is watching this show.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I know you probably like, yeah, I know you're probably
like not in this frame of mind whatsoever, because you're
married and you have a kid. But if you were
single right now and they were filming this show in Minneapolis,
would you try to get cast?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I think one hundred percent no. I mean, the people
on this show are always so are I find I
would not date anybody on this show. We tried desperately,
desperately to get my brother to go on the show,
and my mom was like, do it, Shane. I'm willing
to embarrass myself on public, on national television, you know,

(20:18):
so but no go, he didn't sign up for it unfortunately.
But yeah, so that's sort of taken over too. Well, wow,
look at us just to watching reality TV show instead
of watching you know, art. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know that is okay once in a while, you know,
it happens so fabulous.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well that's our film diary for this week, moving on
to our main discussion, the benches of Inn Sharon and

(20:59):
Irish cinema. Now, Millie, I am Irish. My name is
Casey O'Brien, and I've been to Ireland and I even
kind of studied Irish cinema in college kind of. I
took a class on Irish cinema and I had a
professor whose specialty was Irish cinema. So I feel like

(21:20):
I had a little bit more of an informed college
education on Irish cinema than most people. What what when
you think of Irish cinema, do you have any thoughts
that go through your head? Millie?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, I mean I definitely think of people like Daniel
day Lewis. I think of Colin Ferrell, Martin McDonough, Bretnan Gleeson,
that whole. Yeah, yes, I think of Shersha Ronan. Who huh,
we'll probably talk about a little bit a very long time.

(21:55):
I did not know how to pronounce her first name.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Me neither.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, I thought, I don't even want to take a stab.
I thought it was like so soura around. I don't know,
but yeah, I mean I I honestly I think of
you know, even people like John Houston and stuff, you know,
just like.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, John Houston, he moved to Ireland, I believe, with
Angelica Houston, and he made some films there.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean, I mean that's
probably real like softball answers that, I mean, like, what
are you what about you?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, you know, it is a small country and they have,
you know, I would say a smaller film industry, so
like it is a little bit it's a it's it's
easier to kind of track the big players in that world.
And I but I feel like, you know, this is
a very broad generalization, but I feel like when you
think of Irish movies, Irish cinema, they're often very dark

(22:52):
and funny and gloomy, and there's usually some sense of
trag and even in the funniest, lightest movies coming out
of that country. So I feel like when you talk
about Irish cinema, they do have a very specific vibe

(23:14):
to them. If you've ever been to Ireland, I feel
like the movies that come from that place are representative
of the people there, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So yeah, yeah, You're so right about the vibe of
Irish movies. Are the ones that at least I've seen
and really loved. And I feel like you're there is
a dark humor there, there is a darkest They're like
not afraid of going dark. I think that's what I
really admire. And I just kept thinking what country has

(23:47):
like the opposite vibe of that type of cinema, And
I was like, it's gotta be like Japanese.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
That's exactly what I was thinking. Yes, they do have
a very opposite feeling. Like I think about a movie
like Waking Ned Divine. Have you ever seen that movie,
Waking Ned Novine. Oh, it's a wonderful movie. It is
from nineteen ninety eight. It's directed by Kirk Jones, and
it's about this small tat village where someone in the

(24:18):
town wins the lottery Ned Divine, and they find him
and he's dead. And the rule is if a person
dies without cash and a lottery ticket. Nobody gets the
money goes back into the pool, you know, so basically
they have to do this whole ruse to pretend this
other guy is ned divine in order to get the money.
And it's very funny and very sweet, but even that,

(24:42):
there's like dark It's like about this guy dying, you know,
there's like an element to it where it's like this
is not all you know, sunshine and bubbles, you know,
it's there's still a darkness there to the movie, right.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
And like I mean, I'm maybe I need to step
back and say it's not as if Japanese cinema isn't
sad or deals with heavy subjects. In fact, there's a
lot of sadness and a lot of you know, like
I don't know, I suppose darker subjects, especially in like
Kirousala movies and stuff like that. Like I but I

(25:20):
think it's the treatment of it. Like I feel like
the way that Japanese cinema at least, you know, through
a specific you know, maybe time period or like if
you go through like certain decades where the treatment of
the subject is almost kind of like the opposite, whereas
like Irish cinema like just goes for the jug you know,

(25:41):
really goes for the juggular. It is like doesn't care.
And that's what I love about it. It's just like
going for it. I mean that is like one of
the things about The Banshees of An A Sheeran specifically,
that I really love is that it's just very like
noble shit like this this friendship, the end of this friendship,
which the movie we'll talk about in just a second,

(26:02):
is so dark and so yeah, there's no frills and
there's something that I love about that. And I feel
like if like a in a different country, perhaps like
somewhere like Japan, if you took that same plot line,
it would just be expressed just more tenderly.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's like a
messiness to Irish movies. I don't know if that's the
right word, where it's like really in the muck of
like it really goes there. It really is like totally
fine sitting in this like supreme darkness. But then like
still laughing about it, like yeah, I feel like they

(26:44):
really wallow in that bog of sadness, you know, So.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, but no, this is a great way to.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Transition into the The Banshees of Inserin. It's funny because
on Google, if you google it, it'll say you know,
like they'll say like the genre of movie, and it
says the Banshees of in a Sheeron is a comedy
slash horror?

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean it could be?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Which I mean it is? Like it's so the real.
Let me just give a quick synopsis of this movie.
This movie stars Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson and they
were like lifelong best friends and then one day Brendan
Gleeson is like, I don't want to be friends with
you anymore, and he gives some reason this Also, this

(27:30):
takes place on a remote island, a fake island called
inn a Sheeron, and it takes place in Ireland in
nineteen twenty three. And so Brendan Gleeson is like, I
don't want to be friends anymore, and he gives some
reasons as to why, but not really you never really

(27:51):
quite get to why. He's like, I just don't want
He's just it's basically like I don't want to be
friends with you anymore, and it drives Colin fair as
it would any normal person your eyes. Colin Ferrell like nuts,
and he just like cannot get over it. And it
gets to a point where he keeps trying to re
engage with Brendan Gleeson. Colin Farel's like why, like, let's

(28:12):
talk talk, let's hang out, And Brendan Gleeson gets to
a point where he's like, if you talk to me again,
I'm gonna cut off one of my fingers, and Colin
Farell's like okay, yeah, right, yeah, and then he does
it and he cuts off one of his fingers and
it keeps moving on. It's like, if you talk to

(28:32):
me again, I'm going to cut off another finger, right,
And You're like, he has to be kidding. He ain't kitting,
So it's really I mean, that is kind of a
horrifying notion that someone you love and spend time with.
I mean, Colin Ferrell and Brendan Gleeson are getting beer
like every day together. They have like a routine, and

(28:52):
all of a sudden, to have someone that close to
you in your life be like, I actually just don't
want to see you anymore, and I don't really have
a reason, I just don't. That is scary to me,
and it is dark and frightening.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah. Well, let's let's unpack this a little bit, because,
first of all, I absolutely was obsessed with this movie
when it came out.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Me too, I really loved this movie when it came out.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I was a huge in Bruges fan. So which
is the movie that they were in prior?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, I just have to say that the director, writer
and director, Martin McDonough, he did in Bruses, He also
did Three Billboards outside of Ebbing, Missouri. You know, I
did not like either of those movies that much. I
didn't find I didn't like In Bruges that much. I didn't.
I don't know. I thought it was trying to be
too I just didn't. I didn't vibe with it. I
can't explain why. Just didn't think it was funny or something.

(29:43):
But this I was absolutely I absolutely was head over
heels for this one.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I loved In Bruges. I am one of
probably the only people that actually liked Three Billboards when
it came out, Like a lot of people had problems
with it, but this one is definitely my fave. Oh yeah,
and I so right around like after the I saw
this movie in the theater. Like a couple months after
I saw this movie, I was staying at my parents' house,

(30:10):
and I think it was probably for you know, like
summer or something. I had like this extended break and
I was there for a couple of weeks, and my
dad was going through this kind of like very similar
situation with his like lifelong best friend.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
They were like they had been friends for like forty
years or something crazy. Like, Yeah, they like were in
the like you know, they were like in the military together.
So that's even more like the bonds that of like
ex military people. Like, I mean, they were like really close.
I mean they had followed each other, you know, like

(30:51):
across the country, like you know, moving and like getting
station places and we suspend like every hall with them,
you know, just like total besties. And like I think
it's I have to say, like guys generally, uh, straight guys,
I will say, generally, Uh, this is gonna be a stereotype.

(31:13):
I'm gonna say it anyway. Straight guys generally don't have
a ton of friends, Okay, let alone guys with a
certain generation. Yeah, like this was like my dad's only friend.
It's what I'm saying. Yeah, and my dad just literally
like had a light bulb moment and said, I just like,
don't want to be friends with this s guy anymore.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Did your dad have to cut off any of his fingers?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
No?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Thank god. But it was crazy because it was like
he was the Brendan Gleeson character like in his own life,
and he had not seen this movie before. And I
told my dad. I was like, we are going to
watch this movie together. So me and him and my
mom watched The Bands uses them in a Sharon because
I was like, it's like ripped off, ripped from the

(32:00):
headlines of your life right now, and he predictably was
like blown away.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Wow, amazing.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
It was sort of like, I mean, yeah, it stares
to why don't they get it? Why don't they get it?
And I'm like, whoa to see?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's so interesting because you are when you're watching this movie,
you're like Colin Fairley just doesn't want to hang out,
leave him alone, But you also understand where he's coming from,
where he's like, why the fuck what happened? Why I'll change?
What do you need? You know? And it's like, I
don't know, just to have someone like I think that's
like a deep seated fear to feel. I mean, it's

(32:35):
kind of like invasion of the body Snatchers. It's kind
of like you turn around and all of a sudden,
the person doesn't No, you don't know the person you've
been so close to, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, so this is I think, like what I wanted
to unpack maybe about this, maybe you know, is where
like when you think about the movie and you think
about the dynamic between these two characters, right, yeah, you're
obviously you seem like you're obviously more afraid of the
scenario of being like cut off, right because obviously it's

(33:15):
it's huge. It's a huge it's like a breakup, and
it's even worse than a breakup.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
It's worse.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Breaking up with friends is so fucking painful, like the worst.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Right yeah, because there isn't really a structure for that.
If you say to your you know, significant other, I
want to break up, they know what that means immediately.
But there's no there's no way to really break up
with a friend other than being like, go away, I
don't want to see you ever again, And I don't know,
there's not a language for that.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I guess, Well, but then I guess my question is
that it could you do that? Could you do the opposite?
Could you be the one that like walks away from someone?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I think so, I mean, but the thing that's frustrating
about the movie is he's just like, spending time with
you is a waste and I don't want to waste
any more time, you know. And huh, yeah, I feel
like if I were to walk away from someone, it
would have to be like, you are causing pain in

(34:20):
my life and I can't be around you. And maybe
Colin Farrell's character is causing pain in Brendan Gleeson's life,
but I don't, I don't know. I would have to
I think if I were to be the one who
broke up with somebody who broke up with a friend,
it would have to be for like a more specific
reason than Brendan Gleeson gives in this movie. You know.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, see that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I see Pilie is trying to figure out how to
cut me out of her life, so that's why she's
interrogating me.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I'm like, I'm writing all this down because I am
just going to disappear. Yeah, I'm never going to give
you a reason.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh no, I I think, I.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Don't know, I just think about me. I when I
was younger, I think the idea of losing friends was
so super painful, like just so super painful. I wanted
to be liked really badly by people. I think I
probably had some like you know, codependency in service regards
when it comes to you know, just friends and this
kind of stuff because I was young, and I I

(35:21):
don't know, I just idealized so many things. Yeah, as
I've gotten older, I think I've begun to understand like solitude.
To be honest, I've begun to understand solitude, and I've
begun to understand the idea that, like people change, things change.

(35:43):
I'm not as scared too, And I'm not saying like
I mean, I'm like this, you know, fortified fortress on
an island. I'm not like Alcatraz or anything emotionally. I'm
just saying I understand it more. Because when I watched
this movie, I was thinking, I was actually like looking
at the Brendan Gleason character, going, this guy has a

(36:06):
different energy than this guy. Right, Colin Ferrell seems very
I don't want to say simple, maybe simple is not
the word, but he seems very like just like a
hard just yes, very earnest, you know, maybe not like
happy happy. I mean, this is Ireland for crying out loud,

(36:27):
but you know, like kind of just more like living
in the moment. He's not like mulling over like deep things.
You know. He just wants to have a beer at
the pub with his friends and just like hang out
with his donkey and fucking be a simple dude, right.
I feel like that Brennan Gleeson is the opposite. He's like,

(36:49):
I'm all I want to do is just be by
goth fucking self. I want to sit around and ponder
the meaning of life. And I just feel like my
energy has changed and I just can't hang out with
this Dodo friend of mine anymore. And I don't want
to tell him why. I want to be, you know,
very mysterious about that, and that should.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Be fine, yes, But I think the maybe I'm the simple,
you know, edited one in my own life. But I uh,
I do think Martin McDonough's movies are very about men
a lot of times. Yeah, And I think Brendan Gleeson's
character does something that like men do, which is be

(37:34):
super dramatic and black and white and kind of like
he couldn't just communicate to Colin Ferrell, Hey, I want
to be goth and be alone. Yeah, he said to him,
I don't want to be your friend anymore, which is
like two separate things. And he couldn't just be like, hey,

(37:54):
how do we how about we meet once a week
instead of every fucking day, you know, and maybe that
would have solved the problem first, but no, instead he
goes right, He's like, I want to be alone, and
the way to do that is to cut off my
finger to show him how serious I want to be alone.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
You know, well I think you could really if you
really want to reduce it down to it's like simplest form. Okay,
this is something that I see on TikTok so. This
is from from TikTok so.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
This is a verify This is a verified source.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Here, this is absolute Bible. Yes, there's something that they
call like they call a relationship black Cat and Golden Retriever.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Uh huh do you know do you say where I'm going?
Yes with this? So like one person is the black cat,
one person is the moody uh you know, mysterious dark cat.
The other is like the happy, dopey golden retriever, right,
And like there's some people who are actually looking for
this dynamic and relationships. Like they're like, I'm a black cat,

(39:02):
I want a gold Retriever.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Well you said you want a shitty little vampire. That
sort of feels like you're looking for black cat.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
And right, they're like, I I think I am a
little golden retrievery. I have some black cat moments, but
for the most part, I'm a Golden Retriever. And so
that's the thing, is that, like it's this like opposite
energies thing of these two guys, right, and like it's
just finally one of the black cats. Like I'm so
fucking tired of this lap dog. I don't want to

(39:30):
hang out with him anymore. Like me, I want to
go off on my own to like sleep in the corner. Yeah,
no distractions.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
So yeah, I think you know. And it's also this
takes place in a small village where I think people
idealize small town life a lot. I know my grandparents
who grew up in you know, small town Iowa, were
very excited to move to the Twin Cities because they
were tired of everyone knowing their fucking business all the time.

(40:00):
You know, like you can be much more anonymous and
a larger and you can be much more alone in
a like a larger city, when you're in this small village.
It's like he can't he can't be alone really because
people will just come up and knock on his goddamn
door all hours of the day. So I relate to
that too well.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
And this is like the beauty of this movie. And
I feel like why it, like is an Irish classic, Yes,
in a lot of ways, is that because it is,
you will feel the confinement, like it's actually not a
confining place, right, it's on the coast. It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's like exvansive seventy milimeter got it.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, it could have been a seventy mili movie for sure.
But I but that's the thing is that it's like,
even though it's in this beautiful, serene environment, it also
feels like isolated and closed off, which really is like
a part of the story about how hard it is
to even think about not talking to somebody in town

(41:04):
because there ain't a lot of people in town. And
you know, again, I think that's what makes this movie
hit for me, is that it is like the the
place that it's being shot at, the clothes which they're
always wearing, Like it's like a lot of like fucking
wool oiled double boiled wool coats and slacks. You know,

(41:25):
I absolutely am obsessed with the sister.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Oh she was incredible. Oh man, I mean touch upon that.
But she's trying to leave the damn island right Like.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, she's trying to leave, and the ways in which
she like, she just she's the one that like cuts
all these guys to the bone. And I fucking love
it so much. Yes, like will read you to filth.
It kind of sets up this whole like town that
they live in as being this like there's a lot
of characters.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I mean, this could have been a TV show. I
like it really could. I I don't say that about
a lot of movies, but this was a fun world
to explore, you know, and I wanted to live in
it more too.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I just love to me this is like I know
that if we've decided to create a letterbox list about this,
it would go off the rails very quickly. In fact,
I'm probably I'm sure there's probably already multiple lists, but
this is like one of the most goth movies I've
ever seen, like and not goth isn't. This isn't like

(42:35):
you know some you know, like and Rice Thing. This
is deeply really goth, like a goth energy, a goth vibe,
a goth palette. Yeah, the color palette. So I love it.
I would put it on my letter box list.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Oh that's good, that's good. I also just want to
shout out. The sister is played by the actress Carrie
Condon and I believe she was nominated for an Academy
Award for that role because she's really incredible. And yeah movie, she's.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
A great actress. By the way, we should shut her
out for sure.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, before we depart this segment, favorite Irish musicians.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Go, Besides Enya, I think we already established that. Yeah, yes,
is probably one of my all time faits. Actually, my
all time favoraball time is Shnead O'Connor, which you know,
talk about that's my girl right there. Like I have
a T shirt of her smoking a joint that I

(43:33):
wear out in public often. Yes, but I besides Enya
and Sad O'Connor, I mean, I gotta say, like, I'm
a very I love you too, but only in a
very specific little amount of time. I don't know how

(43:55):
you feel about that. Yeah, I agree, I'm kind of
like a Joshua Tree Rattle and Hum gal.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I don't know you, Yeah, no, I definitely. I think
Joshua Tree is really the I'm not a YouTube scholar,
but I do listen to Joshua Tree, and I I'm
I'm swept away by them. They're epic at times, you know,
and uh and earnest, and sometimes it's fun to be

(44:24):
that earnest, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, Yeah, I love Joshua Tree the big like the
big you know, anthems off that album, but also my
I think my actual favorite is probably Rattle and' hum
Era because it's like when you two came to America
and discovered like American rockabilly music and recorded at Sun Records,
and they started wearing fedoras and the vests with the

(44:50):
black vest with no shirts on underneath. I love it
when like international artists basically like go to Memphis and
playing like twelve string guitars and like they just listened
to like early Elvis Presley, and like, I love that
when that happens. So, I don't know, that's my favorite

(45:12):
you too. I think so.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Very good for me. I love the band, my bloody
Valentine Shoegaze. Kind of rolling her eyes, I'm like, dull
love them, and you know I love a good Van Morrison. Yeah,
I love love the Irish. I am Irish. You've never

(45:36):
been there, have you?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I've never I would die.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
It's great to go.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
But anyway, if you want to send me to Ireland,
if you're a shitty little vampire and you're like, hey,
we should have our honeymoon in Ireland, you can email
us at Dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Love it. Yeah, all right, well this is fun moving on,
all right. So usually we do film advice at the
end of the episode, but we've gotten so many good
questions lately that we we got to get through some

(46:15):
more of these because they're just it's piling up, our
mail bags are piling up, and we got to get
through them. And so I thought it'd be fun to
go through a few of these, you know, all at once,
if that's okay with humiliate.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yoh oh, this is exciting. I'm so happy people are
writing in me too.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I'm thrilled. All right, here we go here is a
voicemail with the first question for film advice. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
I would love advice on how to make one's way
through the catalog of Keanu Reeves movies. You guys have
definitely paid him his dues in his past, and my
partner and I want to make his way throughout all
his movies to honor the man of the legend. But
have already encountered one or two that are not available
to stream, and then the ones that we have been

(47:01):
able to watch. It's where we went chronologically in time,
so his early days ones, he's barely in them, so
not off to a strong start. And also just even
welcome to weird ways to make through the catalog, like sad,
Keanu happy, Keanu least sexy, the most sexy Kiano, although
that's probably impossible, but anyway, thank you.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
And this was from Nicole. This is a question from
Nicole seeking of course.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I mean, you know, I got opinions about.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
This, Yes, I mean, how to traverse the filmography of
Keanu Reeves. It sounds like they've started already. I mean,
have they gotten into the bill and Ted's that's my question.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Well, okay, so here's what I'm going to suggest, yea,
I will I will say this is not my experience,
but looking back on my experience now being I'm not
going to call myself a scholar on Coanu Reeves. But
are okay? Thank you an ardent fan. By the way,
have y'all read the book. It's the Alex Papadimas book.

(48:12):
It's called Counter Reeves, Most Triumphant the Movies and Meaning
of an Irrepressible Icon.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Read this.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
So Alex Papadimas is he was like one of my
favorite writers on grant Land.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Do you remember Bill Simmons.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, he was a great follow on Twitter back when
I was on Twitter. But you know grant Land. I
was such a huge fan of the people who wrote
for Grantland, and then I kind of have like been
a nerd about following them into their other ventures post

(48:50):
grant Land. But he wrote this book about Kanu Reeves.
It's kind of just like a treaty on uh being
into him. Anyway, I gave that book away for Christmas.
I think I actually sent one to Danielle for Christmas. Danielle,
my former co host. If I saw what you didn't,
But anyway, so when I think about your question, and

(49:12):
I think about, like, if I had to redo my
entire strategy of getting into Keanu Reeves and like going
through his filmography, here's what I would do. I would
actually start with his newer stuff first, so I would go,
you know, hit those John Wicks real hard. I would
do definitely do a John Wicks series. I would go into.

(49:35):
I mean, I would do like a little forty seven
rown in I would do. I would definitely do Destination
Wedding and always be my maybe like you just those
are just such like weird romantic late period romantic comedy
blips for Keanu that I just feel like are so irresistible,

(49:56):
and I'm just like you got like seeing him kind
of play himself. I know it's like you're not gonna
get it if you're not into Keanu Reeves. You're kind
of like, should I should I start with his more
like self reflexive, ironic Keanu Reeves, knowing he's Keanu Reeves roles,
I say, yes, why the fuck not? But then I

(50:18):
would do that. Then I would go to the beginning.
Then I would do River's Edge first, and foremost I
would do like you know, Bill and Ted point break,
my own private Idaho type of stuff. And then so

(50:39):
I would just do the weird thing where it'd be
like newer movies first, then older movies, then the mid
period of his absolute fame. Then I would do matrix,
you know, speed Johnny Mnemonic.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Does that make love Johnny Mnemonic? See? Yeah, that makes
total sense. He is he has had so many different careers,
you know, because at first, I feel like he was
kind of action surfer dude, and I'm just gonna include
Bill and Ted in that category. Like there's like action
surfer dude, Bill and Ted Speed Point Break that's kind

(51:17):
of its own thing. Then there was like dramatic Keanu,
and I would put maybe Bram Stoker and like him
doing like The Devil's Advocate and those types of movies.
And then there's like sci fi Keanu, which is like
the matrix in Johnny Nuemonic. So it's it's so hard
like to how to navigate. He is kind of tricky

(51:40):
to navigate because it's like, if you're like not into
sci fi, there's a huge chunk of his movies you
might not be into, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, so well, and like and I think it makes sense.
I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna politic and this from
my way, my method, only because I feel like he's
the kind of actor who's had a long enough career
and has had all these iterations like you say, to
where it would I think it's fun. And again, maybe

(52:10):
those are my own personal viewing habits where I like
a lot of older movies, and there's a lot of
times where I've watched newer movies by older actors not
knowing that they were in older movies, and then going
back to see those older movies being like, Oh my god,
isn't it so cute how young they were. So that's
kind of like if you're not really into Keanu Reeves,

(52:30):
I mean, I don't understand how that's possible, but whatever,
Like and you were to watch, yeah, the newer like
if you were to watch john Wick one through four
and then you were like, oh, fuck, I gotta go
watch River's Edge. I mean, I think you would be
delighted to see River's Edge. Keanu Bill and Ted's Keanu
just like that I love you to death Keanu like

(52:51):
where yeah, he was more of kind of like a
surfer dude, like you know, he got that, Like, I mean,
that's a whole other story, he got that vibe very
early on in his career that he was just kind
of like, you know, a little bit of a Dodo, right, But.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Well, that was like the joke for him about him
for so long was that he was stupid. Like I
feel like that was like he's such a big joke
for a long time. And it resurfaced again with Matthew
Perry's autobiography Did you hear about this? How he makes
several jokes in it about like all these talented people
keep dying and Keanu Reeves is still alive and he

(53:23):
makes that joke twice in the book, And it was
kind of like that was such a thing for like
ten years, where it's like Canna Reeves is dumb and
a bad actor, and luckily he was able to shed that,
I feel like and has come out on top afterwards.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
But well, and like again my misunderstood king. I mean,
I'm sorry, I don't want to speak ill of Matthew
Perry at all, but I'm just saying that, like he
doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. He was he's
fucking base and cool as shit. Yeah, and was all
like guess what I do whatever I want? To do,
Like I'm gonna eat a sandwich on a bench to
be in a band. Still to this day, I'm going

(54:03):
to be a bass player and an affecting alternative.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Band dog star.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I'm gonna smoke cigarettes and hang out at the arc
light and just be like extremely real and cool and
have an age appropriate girlfriend in the art world and
just be like my awesome self. And like that's the
thing is that, like most people wouldn't go that far
to even know that he's an actual, cool in reality person.

(54:28):
And this is again, I don't know him personally. I'm
just saying this is everything that I've gleaned from information
that I've heard elsewhere. But I'm just saying that, like,
I don't know, I feel like that, you know, he
got such a bad rap for so so long that
I'm just like, I'm satisfied that he just decided to

(54:49):
say fuck it and just do whatever he wants to
keep it.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
And yeah, he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Oh, he was trying to prove himself, like come on,
it so great, wonderful.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Well that's a great thing. Thank you for asking that, Nicole.
I hope that helped answer your question a little bit.
I think we just talked about how we like Keanu Reeves.
But I think there was an answer in there. I
think Millie gave you gave a good, good answer in
thereby steps. Yes, so thank you, Milly. Okay, So this
next question, I just thought this was funny, so I
wanted to put in here. This is from Jeff. He wrote,

(55:22):
and I don't know if you've seen this movie, and
I'm kind of surprising you at this one, but hey,
loving the podcast, can you explain bo Is Afraid to
me and defend why? If it's possible I should appreciate it.
I got to the end hoping for some sense resolution,
and I'm still furious about it at least a year later. Help.
I will admit that design and cinematography were stunning. I
just missed the point. Thanks, Jeff. Have you seen bos Afraid?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Of course I have.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Well, Jeff, uh, you're asking if we can help you
appreciate it, and know we cannot because I don't know.
That's a wild movie. Bo's Afraid is nutty? Did you
like it? Milly?

Speaker 2 (56:02):
So I'm gonna actually rip off somebody else's words, okkay,
because this is actually the most perfect description of what
I thought of it. If you google Bo's Afraid. There
is a Reddit thread from ten months ago. The title
of it is Boa Is Afraid twenty twenty three is admirable,

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but unlikable.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
It is an unlikable film. And here's a quick spoiler
for the ending. How can one really appreciate a testicle monster?
And you know, I think my answer for appreciating this movie,
or like explaining what it means is when you see

(56:51):
the testical monster, how did that make you feel? And
I think however that made you feel is the correct
response to how you felt about this movie.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
So sometimes, you know, I'll just say from my experience,
I have sometimes.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I have the patience for art, yes, in that way.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
And when I say art, I meaning like capital a art,
you know of like over ambition, thought, experience things of
this nature like like again, like sometimes I have an
appreciation for these things, for exercises in you know, just weirdness,

(57:33):
I guess, and for some reason, like I had a
little bit of attention for it when I saw it
in the theater. I will say that the like last
two thirds of the movie was grueling. The mom section
was grueling. It almost felt like we were, you know,
at the hardest part of the soul cycle class where
you're just like doing the really hard climb and you're

(57:54):
just like really your hardest pounding and you're just like,
oh my god, I can't wait for this shit to
be over with so I can go to Smoothie. That's
kind of how it felt. And uh, but at the
end of it, I did feel like I went through
some ship, which is like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
You know, like something the director already Astor described it
as a Jewish Lord of the Rings. So and this
was definitely his like, as they say, blank check movie
where he had two huge hits and he was kind
of able to make whatever he wanted, and he certainly did.
There didn't feel like there was any editing or censorship

(58:28):
of any ideas on that movie. I'm I still think
about that movie. It's like upsetting and.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I'll probably never see it again.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I watched that movie while feeding my newborn baby. That's
and that sort of steered into my mind too.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Yeah. Well, anyway, Jeff, I don't know if that answered
a goddamn thing.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
But you're you're in good company, Jeff, is what I'm saying. Okay,
one more here, Millie. Okay, this is from Shannon Hi,
Milly and Casey loving the pod so far. I am
a movie lover married to a woman with a short
attention span. She's always down to watch a movie, but
if it's longer than ninety two one hundred minutes, I've
lost her. I'm looking for some recommendations of solid thriller

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slash horror movies that are under ninety to one hundred minutes.
Thanks in advance, Shannon.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
So I'm gonna cant. I'm gonna concel Shannon with some
of this, because, first of all, I feel like longer movies.
There's kind of like two big for me. It feels
like there was two kind of big waves of long
ass movies. One was like sixty seventies and one is now.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
We're in the second coming of the long ass movie.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yes, And I don't know why that is.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
I just think that like every once in a while,
a generation of movie makers like I got a lot
of shit to say, I'm gonna make a movie called
bose fraid, make it three hours long, and that's just
the way it's gonna be. So I hear you, I
hear your partner, yea, Because I'm going yeah, oh yeah,
anything over ninety minutes. It is you're like you do

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look at.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Your watch on a school night. It's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yes, So here's what I'm gonna suggest. Number one, it
may be that you gotta go older, and I'm talking
about like thirties forties, which I don't know, you know,
temp check on that for you, you and your partner,
whether or not you can actually like stay awake to
see like, you know, the original Frankenstein or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
But if you want a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Short horror or thriller movie, you can't. You cannot do
any better than like something that was made in like
nineteen thirty five, Like they were not making a lot
of long movies back then. I mean I talked about
Mad Love a couple episodes ago, which is the Peter
Lori movie from nineteen thirty five about the rogue Hands.

(01:01:02):
These are Surgeon with the Rogue Hands. I mean that
shit is an hour and eight minutes. Like you could
fucking watch two of these joints in the same amount
of time that it would take to watch Like I
don't know the remake of any eighties horror franchise that's
out in the movie heater right now. You know what

(01:01:22):
I'm saying, like, so go in that direction if you
if it's not like too fuddy duddy for you to
watch like old old horror, those movies are short as hell.
But then also, I don't know, there's a couple of
like I mean, I feel like some of the eighties
stuff feels under ninety minutes. Like I mean these kind

(01:01:43):
of like franchise movies like Child's Play or the Jason movies.
Like if they're making a lot, if they're making like
twelve movies in a series, likely they're not all gonna
be like three hours long. So think about that too,
Like these of like really storied, famous, long running horror

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franchises from the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yes Millie, I I'm sorry for I was laughing, but
I'm like, they're like, we don't want to we need
something that will keep attention. I just don't know if
like an old ass nineteen thirties movie is gonna do that.
But you know, to each their own an.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Hour, it is minutes. Casey, if you can't watch, like,
if you can't coast on old vibes for an hour
and eight minutes, it's like, you're right, you got you
gotta you gotta think about some medication, perhaps like it's
like fire up. Then that long?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Okay, I have a few answers here. So one is
a movie we mentioned last week with Brian Sour Cube
Cube is like an Our hour thirty from nineteen ninety seven.
A group of strangers awakened to find themselves placed in
a giant cube. Each one of them is gifted with
a special skill and they must work together to a

(01:02:59):
scale been endless maze of deadly traps. I love Cube.
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Good Sexy Beast Jonathan Glazer's Sexy Beast from two thousand,
that's a good one. That's with Ben Kingsley ray Winstone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Ray Winstone is like a retired thug in Spain and
Ben Kingsley comes back to retrieve him for another job.
And then uh, Evil Dead two hour and twenty four minutes.
I love Evil Dead two. Don't need to watch Evil
Dead one to know what's going only. So those are
Those are some of my under ninety minute horror movies.

(01:03:42):
I hear you, man, I I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Evil Dead two is like the Magic Mic two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yes, onder, No, you're one hundred percent correct. Yeah, I
still haven't seen The Brutalist and I'm kind of gearing
myself up for that because that's a long end. That
that's a imposing film length, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Know, intermissions, intermission.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That that was our film advice. You know, this is
kind of film advice ultra because we usually do this
at the end of the show and just do one question,
but we were able to do a few of them
and spend a little more time with that, so that
was fun. Moving on to the end of our show. Unbelievable,
we finished another one, Millie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
We did we really employees picks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Employees picks. What movie recommendation are you going to give
to the people today?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Okay, here's gonna this is gonna be my recommendation based
on you know, the Irish cinema that we spoke about
in this episode, mostly because I want to rewatch this too,
So I was thinking, what if we alrewatched it together
and then you can email us at dear Movies at
exactly rightmedia dot com. We can chat about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
We should do a watch party sometime online. That would
be fun, wouldn't it, Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
I would love that actually put a p I don't
know how we can do that. So I was thinking
about this movie the other day because it was kind
of a huge I mean, I wouldn't say it's a juggernaut,
but it was like a huge thing when it came out,
The movie Once from two thousand ello.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
I saw that movie at the premiere at Sundance Film
Festival in two thousand and six years and Glenn Hansard
was there and sang a little song afterwards. I love
the movie Once.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I have not seen it since it came out.
I remember crying a lot during it. It felt very
emotional for me. It was very romantic for me, and
I love the like I love a movie about like
creative collaboration, and so I was like, oh, this is

(01:05:52):
like I don't know what I was thinking about it.
I was like, they should remake that movie Once and
do it about like I don't know, get like get
a K pop star and like some you know, a
young like get it like a Phoebe Bridgers and a
K pop star together to make a new version.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Of Once Interesting an interesting pitch. Tell me that's not
a good I like that. I think they have to
do the song for the thing is that song Falling
Slowly is so good in that movie. I felt like
it was like I was like whoa. It was like
the music is good, and sometimes it's hard in movies
for the music to be Like movies about musicians, it's

(01:06:33):
like it's not a guarantee the music is gonna be good,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, Well, get the whoever wrote the Shallow Shallow Shallow song,
huh my favorite song of the decade, and just get like,
somebody's gotta come up with a really good ballot. And
then you get like, you know, one of these K
pop guys to get it in with Phoebe Bridgers. Sure,
and there they do the song and it's like it

(01:06:57):
would be a great remake, and I don't know. I
just don't anyway. Bottom line is, that's my recommendation. Let's
watch once again and see if it's still good, see
if we still cry.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Excellent choice. I love that movie. I that's worth a revisit.
The movie I'm going to recommend is a nineteen ninety
seven film, an Irish film called The Butcher Boy. It
was directed by Neil Jordan and it is about kind
of a a boy who has a is mentally unwell.

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He has a violent fantasy world he kind of escapes to,
and his sense of reality really starts to disintegrate. There's
a lot of like interesting fantastical elements to it, but
it's also funny and violent and kind of freaky. And

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you mentioned her earlier. Sneide O'Connor plays the Virgin Mary
in it, and uh, it's it's really cool to see
her in this movie. And so I highly recommend Butcher
Boy by Neil Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Hey, pretty good. I've never seen it and it sounds
it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
It's dark as you might imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah, but excellent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Well wow, we did it unbelievable on how does your Irish.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Heart feel after talking about your homeland?

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Oh, just filled like a pot of gold. I don't know.
I want to go back to Ireland. It's so beautiful
and gray and it smells like burning pete everywhere, and uh,
it's amazing. We If anyone wants to fly us out

(01:08:48):
to do a live show in like Dublin, well we'll
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Yeah. If anybody wants to arrange in the house that
they filmed the Banshees of it is Sheridan with the
donk the donkey, please email us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Oh my goodness. Well, if you heard some people get
their film advice answered kind of by us, and if
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That is right. Also, we're on social media, We're at
Deer Movies. I love you on Instagram and Facebook. And
we also now are getting people being like, why aren't
you on Blue Sky? Why aren't you on Blue Sky?
I don't know, maybe we'll be on Blue Sky.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Are you on Blue Sky?

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Listen? I am. The timing of Blue Sky for me
was so fucked because I was like, I was an
early adopter to Blue Sky, looked around, was like nobody's here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
I left, gotta go back, and now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
We're everybody's here. So now I'm like, should I restart
my account? And that's why I'm like, Okay, maybe I'll
start restart my account and also put the show on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
This Okay, well, so this is an ongoing conversation, so
we'll pick this up at a later date.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Look it up and follow us. I love when it
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I would say that's the social media platform that I
use most regularly and happiness. Yes, well, thank you again
for another wonderful episode, Millie, thank you for talking to
me about Irish stuff and uh, of course yeah, have

(01:10:47):
a happy Saint Patrick's Day. You do anything for Saint
Patrick's Day?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
What what is Saint Patrick's Day? It's right before my birthday,
so I don't care, you know. I save all, I
save all my partying for my birthday. I die my
own river in the background green for my birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
So very good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
But for all those who celebrate, you know, have a
good one and we'll see you next time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Bye.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
This has been an exactly right production hosted by me
Millie to Cherico and produced by my co host Casey O'Brien.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel. Our associate producer
is Christina Chamberlain, Our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and
our artwork is by Vanessa Ilac.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Our incredible theme music is by the best band in
the entire world, The Softies.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hartstark,
Daniel Kramer and Millie. To Jericho, we love you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Goodbye, Beker