VHS Classics

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Casey, Sorry, I'm a little I got something going
on right now.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Wait, what's going what's going on?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'm so The short version is that I saw that
My Stepmother Is an Alien was playing on Comedy Central,
and I decided to record it off the TV, and
so I had to find a tape in my parents'
tape basket, and I feel like there's some episodes of

(00:31):
days of our lives on there. I don't know what's
on here. It's my mom's tape, but I don't care.
She doesn't touch it, so I just.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
She's not going to be mad yet you're taping over
using one of her tapes. There's nothing precious on there.
You're positive about it.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean, like I said, she's got like ten episodes
of days on here. I don't know if this is.
She hasn't touched this tape in a couple of weeks.
So I just had to put a piece of scotch
tape over the little square so I could record, because
I really want to record this movie. I haven't seen
it in a long time, and so now I'm rewinding
it and it's taking forever.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, it does that. It does that. You need
to get one of the You know how they used
to have the VHS rewind machines that were outside of
the VCR because rewinding, they said, rewinding what the VCR
would kind of like screw up the VCR. Do you
remember those? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I do remember those because my neighbor. I can't say
this without laughing. This is a true story. By the way,
my neighbor has one in the shape of a Corvette.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Whoa because that fast they.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Got at a flea market.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, oh my god, that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I know. I wonder if they still have it. I
don't know. I would talked to that neighbor in like
three decades.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
But well, make sure once this is done rewinding, and
it's taken a very long time. Once it's done, make
sure you press the little the little button on the tape. Yeah,
locks the VHS tape so that you cannot record over it.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I know I'm gonna have to take the tape off,
but here's the thing. I recorded it in SLP, so
it's gonna take a while. Oh shit, we might actually well,
it might be done, but then I have another I
have another tape I gotta rewind. So I don't know
if we're gonna be able to start this episode on time,
is all I'm saying. Basically, I'm trying to My next
move is that I gotta tape the MTV footage from

(02:30):
La Lapalooza ninety three, so I'm gonna have to find
another tape. I might actually go to Circuit City and
just buy a three pack of Max Max L's.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Is it Maxel or Maxwell? I think it's Max l
Okay go, Yeah, right, that sounds good. Well, mainly we
have so this is a great episode. I'm thrilled to
be talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
VHS's because today's episode is all about those VHS classics
that we grew up with. There's no anchoring film in
this episode. We're just talking about all the classics that
we enjoyed as young cinephiles. And I can't wait to

(03:13):
just dive in. I can't wait to hear what your
VHS classics are.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, I can't wait to hear yours too, because I
know that you've recently become a VHS collector again, Is
that true?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yes? I was going to just yeah, you know, I
have six VHS's here. I have Fargo Delicatessen days and
confused hook Austin Powers International Man of Mystery and the
Empire strikes back. Wow. So we're building and it's a
very fun enterprise, and it's a cheap enterprise.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Sir.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yes, I'm excited to see where this all goes.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I agree. We'll probably talk a little bit about VHS culture,
which I know there's a lot of people that have
talked about VHS culture over the years. It's kind of
back baby, but yeah, I can't wait to dive into it.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And then we got film advice after that, so we
do we have get ready for that.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
There's a lot a lot of film advice, a lot
of film advice that needs to be taken care of.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So, Milly, is your tape done?

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Hmmm, Yes, it's done. Okay, okay, Well stay tuned, everybody.
You are listening to your favorite movie podcast, Dear Movies,
I Love you.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Dear, I love you, and I've got to know you
love me to check the books.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, hello, there, you are listening to Deer Movies, I
Love you. This is the podcast for people who are
in a relationship with movies. My name is Millie to
Jericho in case your brain and yeah, this whole episode
is going to be about those the Klang Klang klang

(05:07):
of the big rectangle.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Black boxes, those big clunky VHS's that we loved so much.
You know, a lot of you know, not just renting
VHS tastes. We were alluding to taping things off the TV.
But my grandma used to tape movies off the TV
all the time and then give them to us to watch.
And I watched a lot of movies that way, and
you kind of become accustomed to the commercials that are

(05:31):
taped too, you kind of like look forward to those
as well. At least that was my experience. So I
have a deep love for VHS.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know. I used to have this like very very
sensory almost. I would say it's an ASMR type of
feeling anytime I got to put the new stickers on
the new tape. So there's the one that went across

(06:01):
the side, the long strip, and then there was the square,
the more rectangle strip that went in the center. And
if you didn't line them shits up properly, you were
in trouble.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And I throw the tape away frankly.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, because once you set it down, if you try
to peel it back off, like if if you waited
more than two point five seconds to try to peel
that label back off. You're ripping it.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I also would get pissed off in if I was
writing something on one of those tapes and I like
messed up because I wrote it, would write it in
pen and I messed up on the labeling of that,
I would go absolutely insane. Oh same with same with
cassette tapes too. This was a problem with like mixtapes.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes, well there was a point because when you would
buy a new tape, they would only give you like
one label a piece. They'd give you the long one
in the square more square rectangle one. And I was like,
this is some fucked up shit, Like I need more,
So I did. I went to like office depot and
I found or what I with the office max or whatever.

(07:01):
Found these like mailing labels that kind of would fit perfectly,
but you had to put two side by side, and
it just looked messy.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's not right, that's not the same.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's not the same. But it gave me an option
to mess up with the pen if it. It was
like a net for a trapeze artist. But I knew
people who were extremely dedicated to cataloging, like where they
would write, they would you know, usually they'd have these
little check boxes on the side that was like, I

(07:32):
don't know. Sometimes they would be like check this box
if this is whatever. Do you know what I'm saying?
On the labels, it was like a checkbox for like
the speed that maybe you taped it on or whatever. Yes,
I knew people who filled out all that information. Wow,
some people who were typing it on a typewriter, like
would put the little label through a typewrite. Oh yeah,

(07:52):
my neighbor's dad did that anyway, So that's uh. I
was extremely finicky about this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, we'll get more into that as the episode goes on,
but first we must open up the film diary, and
we need to talk about the movies we watched in
this past week. Merely, I have like eight hundred movies.
I watched a ton of movies.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh my god, I didn't really watch a ton and
really so I technically watched like a movie and a half.
I did one of those hasis. Again. I had kind
of a chaotic week. I had family in town and stuff,
so I didn't get down too much. But I actually
just turned on TCM and started watching Coal Miner's Daughter

(08:40):
from nineteen eighty starring Cissy Space.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I've never seen it.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
What yeah, I mean I try not to show outrage
because I know it makes people feel bad, but.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Makes me feel bad.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You've got to see it.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'm really good. I bet it' I love Sissy Spasic,
Tommy Lee, Joe. Isn't it right?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh yeah, he's great in it. She sings all the songs.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I've seen it many times. Actually have a subwhere in
my closet. I have a a movie poster of Cole
Miner's Daughter. But anyway, that was odd when I turned
the TV on. And because I gotta be if you
if you want like full disclosure, I've been watching the
Dodgers like crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
So you're wearing a Dodger hat right now.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I know, because you know show Hay's pitching.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Did you know why Tani is he's not only hitting,
he's not only looking handsome and tall, he's pitching now too.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Right because he hadn't pitched in was it a couple
of years because he had Tommy John surgery.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Or something like two years or something and.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
The crazy sting, So he's only he's only been pitching
like one inning. He'll pitch like the first inning and
then they'll take him out. But the craziest thing is
that he's the lead off hitter, so it's the so
he has this moment where he like leaves the mound
and then a me imediately puts on his hitting stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, he's incredible.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, and it's anyway, I love my boys, so I've
been watching them pretty much every night. So unfortunately that
kind of clips into my movie time. Sure, so I
watched half of Coal Miner's Daughter. Then I watched a
movie that I'd never seen before afterwards, and it's this
movie called Missing from nineteen eighty two and it also

(10:26):
stars Sissy Spacek. I reckon they were doing a Sissy
SpaceX night on t SAM and it is a It
was a movie that was directed by Costa Govrus, whom
everybody knows is a He made Z amongst other things.
He's like kind of.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
A I know, if everybody knows that, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Come on, he does a lot of I mean, he's
not a political filmmaker, I think. Okay, everybody would say
that about him. But you know, Z won an Academy
Award for Best Foreign Language Film and I feel like missing. Also,
I think it won an Oscar for Best Screenplay Adapted Screenplay.

(11:09):
But anyway, it was like a little political thriller based
on this disappearance of this American journalist in the nineteen seventies.
And it starred Jack Lemon, Sissy Spacek. As I mentioned,
Melanie Mayron was in this movie. That's what really got
my attention, to be honest, because you know, Melanie Mayron,

(11:31):
star of the movie Girlfriends, which we're fans of on
this podcast. And then John Shay, who if you see him,
you know who he is. He's one of those actors.
He's been in a shit ton of movies. But he
plays Charles Horman, who was the journalist was that disappeared

(11:54):
in Chile. So anyway, it was good. It was a
really like a really good tense political thriller. Great hair
in the movie. Not to be petty, but it was
great hair.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And you know, I don't want to go into this
because I could really go off. We have a hair
problem in modern cinema. Everyone's hair looks too good. We
have a serious hair problem. Watch Dune too, everybody's hair
looks gorgeous. It's an issue. Anyways, we should dedicate an
episode of this. I don't want. I can't get into
that right now.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
We got to do it should be like an episode
about teeth and hair.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh this is good, yes, yeah, and about.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
How I'm gonna asking this sidebar really quick. Because this
was something else that I was watching on TCM. I
actually did a screen grab of this, so I was watching.
There's another moment this week where I didn't put this
in the film diary because I literally watched like five
minutes of it, but because I actually don't really like
this movie very much. But you know that movie it's

(12:56):
a mad, mad, mad mad world.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yes I do, and I also kind of hate that movie. Yes,
I've watched a bunch as a kid, and I was like,
I don't like this anyways, continue.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I might have missed a mad in there. I don't
know if there's I think there might be four or five,
and I think it's four. There is a scene where
it's definitely Spencer Tracy and another guy who I forgot
his name, and it's literally them just talking, but they're

(13:28):
similar at age. I mean, so basically, this movie, if
you haven't seen it nineteen sixty three, it was basically
like a collection of all of the old classic film stars.
They're you know, in a mad cap farce type of thing.
This happened a lot in the sixties Hollywood, like was
like who was popular in the thirties and forties, Let's
put them in a badly lit, unflattering farce.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Let's shoot him out of a cannon.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yes that some times will make them accidentally take LSD Like.
It was just like, let's bring out these old fuckers
and put them in a in a shitty, weird ensemble
cast movie where they look like shit and then they're
they're like sweating and they're having to like deal with

(14:19):
the counterculture. That's kind of like what I would call
these movies. But there was a scene between Spencer Tracy
and whoever this other similarly aged actor was. They looked
so fucking old to the point, I mean they look
I mean you could see like dirtlines in their skin,
like there was like tobacco stains like all over their hands.

(14:43):
And I was like, I kept thinking to myself, there
is no fucking way in hell they would let people
be this old.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, in a movie, I feel like they had let
people have long nosehairs in movies back then like that
would no one would ever allow such a thing.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh they got like pit stains.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I mean they just were like.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Insane. I mean the best that they would let is
like eighty for Brady or whatever. The fuck they have
these beautiful, flawless, airbrushed old stars or like some kind
of like Paccino meet the Fokker's scenario or like you know,
where they're just like they're technically old, but they don't

(15:25):
look old. This is an era where they they looked
so fucking old, and I was like, I was shocked,
Like I was like, these people look so crazily old,
and Hollywood would never let this happen ever.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, yeah, I know. Anyway, Uh, well, very good is it?
I guess it's your turn. Very good, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I think that was all very important stuff we were
just talking about, and I hope we touch upon it later.
So I had, like I said, I had a huge
week and all fabulous movies. Uh. Number one, watch the
documentary Pewee as himself twenty five. I laughed, I cried
so inspiring. Pee Wee had a huge influence on me

(16:09):
as a little kid. I used to watch Peewe's Playhouse
all the time. There's this photo of me dancing and
running in circles, and on the TV was Pewey Herman
because I would just go nuts when the Pewe's Playhouse
theme song would come on. So I love Paul Rubins,
love Peewee, and I really enjoyed documentary. I went to
the cinema this week and I saw a movie called

(16:32):
twenty eight Years Later twenty five. This movie rocks, It rocks.
I thought this was great. I loved it. It ripped,
and I feel like Danny Boyle really got back to
his kind of like what I call mixtape style of filmmaking,
where it's like fun, a good soundtrack, a lot of

(16:55):
like random images taking big swings. I just thought this
was awesome. I thought it's like right up there with
twenty eight Days Later.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, yeah, let me ask you this, is there any
like is there any reference to or cameos by.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Killian? Yes? No, okay, but I didn't know this. This
is the first of a trilogy, and apparently Killian Murphy
is going to be in the next one, Wow, and
will be prominently featured in the third one. So he
is coming back because he's an executive producer on twenty
eight years later. Oh, so I thought it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Do you remember when that first movie came out and
everybody went crazy for him because he had that like
fucked up hair. There was like bandage. Everyone's like, man,
he looks so hot with that like shaved underwoon shave.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, good look, I'm saying, good look. And that movie
was shot on like a mini DV and it looks
like shit. Yeah. They shot twenty eight years later on
an iPhone, so there's sort of but it looks amazing,
So it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
You can't even really see the first one. I feel
like Danielle and I try to do it for.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
They're doing a four K re release, which is very
funny because you can't make that movie into four K
because it was shot on like a camcorder. They're doing
some sort of release, but I don't think it's streaming anywhere. Okay.
Then I watched a movie by the director Peter Greenaway
from nineteen eighty eight called Drowning by Numbers. I loved

(18:36):
this movie. I'm a big Peter Greenaway fan, even though
I've only seen the Cook the Thief. His wife and
Her Lover, which I also really love. But he creates
just such a fun, quirky atmosphere, and his movies kind
of feel they actually sort of feel Wes andersony, but

(18:57):
there's a lot more sex and nudity and death in
his movies. But really enjoyed Drowning by Numbers. I'd never
seen it before.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I am extremely under educated about Peter Greenaway.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Me too. I mean, this is only a second movie
I've seen of his, so I want to dive in, yeah, headfirst,
but not drown Then I watched a movie by Abel
Ferrara from nineteen ninety eight called New Rose Hotel. This
is a cyberpunk future corporate espionage thriller with Asia Argento,

(19:37):
Christopher walk In, and Willem Dafoe. And I thought this
movie ripped. Also, it gets a little messy in the end,
It's like what are we doing here? But I thought
it's very viby, it feels very This would make a
good double feature with the movie Demon Lover by Olivier Asias,

(19:59):
which is also kind of a corporate espionage movie about tech.
I don't know. I like New Rose Hotel, Okaye, that
movie I have not.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
And I am putting it out of my list.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It was on the Criterion channel for a little bit.
I think it's off there now, but I thought it
was cool, very vibe, Moody.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Walkin' and Dafoe together.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, they're great. They're a great combo. And then to
cap things off, I watched a movie by the great
Nicole Hall of Center from twenty twenty three called You
Hurt My Feelings with Julia Louis Dreyfus. Yes, this movie
also ripped. I thought this was so good. Nicole halli Center.

(20:39):
I love her, I love her movies. This is a
very like, fun, easy comedy about a good marriage. And
basically Julia Louis Dreyfus overhears her husband talking about her
latest book that she wrote, and he's like, I don't

(20:59):
like it, but he's been telling her that he likes it.
And it causes all sorts of problems, but it's a delight.
And Nicole hall of Center movies had this wonderful feel
to them, and I just I thought this was so great.
Have you seen this one? I have.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I actually saw it in the movie theater because I
remember I watched this movie at the same time I
was watching that show The Crown. The Crown, Yes, And
at that point I had only seen Tobias Menzie's the
actor that plays her husband, who is great? Who is great?
I had only seen him in The Crown as Prince Philip,
the Ghoul, the coolish, grim reaper esque Prince Philip, and

(21:42):
I hated him in that show. And so when I
saw him playing like a modern person, I was like
a modern American. Yeah, I was like, oh shit, it's
Prince Philip from the Crown. But then I was like,
actually like him a lot. He's actually not this character.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
But I thought he was. Is that funny how that works? Hey?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know?

Speaker 2 (22:06):
But yeah, he was great in this. Everybody's great in it.
I loved it. I loved it so much.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I love her too, She Nicole hall Off Center. I've
talked about so many times on the old podcast, but
like I make people my age or when when you're
moving from your like late thirties to your early forties.
I always tell people to watch Friends with Money, her
movie Friends with Money, because I feel like it's the
most accurate portrayal of this era of our lives.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I yeah, I love that movie. Also, this you hurt
my feelings and friends with Money has a weird connection
in that it both has characters. It has characters that
are both obsessed with good socks. It's like there's a
man in Friends with Money who's like obsessed with good
quality socks, and the husband and you Hurt my feelings
is also obsessed with quality socks. It's like a character

(22:57):
trait in both those movies.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Are you are I'm really into socks?

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I am not. Wow, I wear them. I'm on my feet.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Listen. I'm a huge fan of socks. Not to be quirky,
but I just want good, good ones that are not
gonna like make my feet sweat.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
And yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I have no I it's not one of my passions.
I want to say that. But that's it. That's our
film diaries. Let's close it up, Million geezas again, all right,

(23:49):
moving on to our main discussion, which is VHS Classics.
This is going to be a little bit more loosey
goosey conversation, very lucy goosey, because this show is usually
so uptight, regimented, ordered, and now we're just gonna kind
of let our hair out and talk about VHS's and

(24:12):
that that's all you.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Capricorn, but that is me. If it was up to me,
we would be doing this podcast in your bathrobes and
being real lackadaisical. We'd be going four hours. Yeah, and
I'm wearing a tuxedo right now. Sometimes I wonder how
I would be in the military. I'm sure you would thrive,

(24:35):
And I don't like that. I don't like that thought.
I don't like going down that road.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
AnyWho. Uh, Millie, what was your video store growing up?
What was your or like, what was your like first
memory of going to the video store and getting a VHS?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, so if you want to take it way way back,
my first experience, like very very early days of going
to video stores were actually on military basis. Interesting because
my father is retired Air Force guy and I don't

(25:16):
know military brats weigh in on this if this was
your experience, But my dad to this day is obsessed
with like the BX, which is stands for the Base Exchange.
It's also called a PX a post exchange. I think
if you're like in the army or something like that.
But it's basically like a variety store meets department store

(25:42):
that has all the things that you would need I
guess if you're a soldier or something, and so there's
like clothes. There's also the commissary, which is the grocery store.
That's a separate thing. But basically the BXPX is like
a place where you can get like it's like a
little mini target, except definitely not as cool as a target.

(26:06):
And so it was like but you could also get
like uniform stuff there. You could get house wears, clothing, shoes, CDs,
and DVDs. And then they had at the one that
I remember going to when we were living in South Carolina,
they actually had a tiny little video rental desk where
you could rent VHS tapes, and so I remember going

(26:29):
there and their selection was pretty bad from what I remember,
was very very small.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Was it all like military related movies?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Private Benjamin, Well, the real major pain.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
The reality is now if you if you go to
like a VXPX and you go to like their DVD
section or something like that, it's all like Marvel stuff.
It's like, what does soldiers want to watch? Like Marvel,
Fast Enough, Furious, like whatever. You're not going to find
any Peter Greenaway movies.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I can hear in it.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
But then you know, We started going to our local
video store in when we moved to Georgia, and it
was this place called Blackwell Video. If you were Marietta,
Georgia kid, you remember Blackwell Video And like the Blackwell
Square shopping center, this place was fucking huge, Like it

(27:24):
was huge. It was like the size of a like
a Blockbuster Video. And this was the store that like
really formed me, like really formed my VHS consumption. And
I my parents were obsessed with running videos because they,
like I said, they never wanted to go to first
run movies. They thought they were too expensive. There was
actually next door to the video store there was a

(27:46):
fifty cent movie theater. Whoa yes, which is where I
saw Ernest Ghost Camp among other things. Yeah, it was
like a little two screen called Blackwell Cinema fifty cents.
My parents were obsessed with that. They love they love
a dollar movie theater. They were like a fifty cent

(28:07):
movie theater even better. So we spent a lot of
time in that shopping center, between the fifty cent movie
theater and the Blackwell Video.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
My first video store growing up, the big video store
was Mister Movies, which I've talked about on previous episodes.
It was kind of a chain in the Midwest, like
Minnesota and Wisconsin. I think there was several locations, but
the one there's one in South Minneapolis, and that's where
my mom, you know, created chicks Picks.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Wow. Yeah, she was her little suffragette era, yes or yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
But it was just I still I can close my
eyes and see the layout perfectly still to this day.
I think it closed in like two thousand and nine.
I want to say, wow, I mean that's really where
you know, the love of movies was born at that
video store. Well, maybe we can transition into another topic

(28:58):
of conversation, which is the VHS covers, because so much
a part of the video store experience and the VHS
experience is like walking down the aisles and like looking
at the covers and being like, ooh, what is that?
What is that movie? And being intrigued and wanting to
see these movies based solely on the covers, or being
frightened or tantalized by these covers. But do any VHS

(29:21):
covers come to mind for you from you know, early
on that kind of we're tantalizing.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh yeah, I mean I have gone on record. I've
gone on record with some of these choices.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
And we've talked about this to some degree in the past,
but this is our official discussion.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
So the one that immediately pops to mind, this is
I've gone on record of saying this many many times.
Very formative for me was the American release of Dario
Argento's movie Phenomena, and it was called Creepers in America, right,

(30:03):
And the cover of Creepers, the American version was essentially
Jennifer Conley, a painting or an artist running of Jennifer
Conley being devoured by bugs and half of her face
is missing.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
And I mean, I don't know, this isn't inherent to
my experience. This is I mean, there's entire books written
about this about kids from my generation who would go
to the horror section of VHS rental places and like

(30:40):
we were like traumatized by the covers in a good way,
by the way.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yes, it like formed us, right, absolutely, A lot of
my VH you know, the tantalizing VHS covers are horror.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, yeah, And I think it's because, Yeah, I mean,
you're just like a young person and you're like in
this forbidden area and you know that you're like I'm
probably like nine or ten years old, and I'm like, oh, fuck,
like I can't be and my parents will never let
me rent, you know, Happy Birthday to Me?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, but am I gonna.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Stare at the cover of it with the guy getting
the shish kabab putting the back of his brain or
whatever like through the mouth?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Like yes? And yeah. It's like one of those things
where you're like, oh, I don't want an adult to
see me like staring at this cover because I might
get in trouble for even looking at it.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well, and I'll tell you, like so between Creepers, Happy
Birthday to Me and April Fool's Day, right, because there
was the cover of April Fool's Day with the girl
that had like the noose braid? Did you ever see
that one?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yes? I know exactly where you're doing, right.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
So there was like these very simple horror covers that
really made an impact. Another one huge one for me
was Hello Mary Lou prom Night two, which was the
sequel to prom Night. I was obsessed with the cover
of Hello Mary Lou prom Night two.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I thought that woman who was on the cover of
it coming out of the locker was one of the
most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Fascinating, okay, and I.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Wanted to look like her. Like I was like, I
don't know, she was obviously like demonic or whatever, but
like I was like, this is I mean, if you
were growing up in like nineteen eighty seven and you
were a girl and you were obsessed with the idea
of maybe going to prom, this was your era. Because
this was like the era of like Jessica McClintock dresses

(32:52):
and like you wouldn't get a copy of like seventeen
magazine or something like that, and you would see like
the prom episode the prom issues and it would be
like all these fantastic, huge eighties dresses like jess come
a Clintalk Zumzon like all these like and it was
basically like her look was like my ultimate eighties late

(33:15):
eighties prom check look. And I was like, I want
to be Hello, Mary Lou Promte too, lady. So there
was the horror section right, all those that I've mentioned then,
I don't know if your video store had this. Now,
this was again something that was prevalent, I would say,

(33:40):
in these like mom and pop type places because as
the decade wore on as you know, the Blockbusters and
the video updates and the movies, all these like big.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Chains were taking Hollywood video.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Hollywood video is huge, so this kind of fell out
of fashion, I would say. But like Blackwell Video had
the curtain in the back that had like the porns.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
We did not have that. I think that that because
mister Movies was technically a chain. Okay, but I think,
like you said, that happens at the mom and pop shops.
The horny mom and pops want their porno videos.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, And it's so fucking crazy because then you would
I feel like we talked about this, and I saw
what you did or something, or like we were talking,
we talked about this. At some point you would see
like the dads from your neighborhood like kind of look
around and then maybe like take a little peek back there.
I'm like, yo, Jeff's dad's back in the in the

(34:46):
curtain section, what's up with that? But the craziest part
was that and from what I remember at Blackwell, before
you got to the curtain around the curtain were like
kind of the like sexy comedies that.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Weren't like rated x oh so almost it's like sex
is permeating from this area that's spilling into the normal sections.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yes, so there was a so there's a couple of
VHS tapes that were hanging out in this like sexy
comedy section that was like basically like the buffer zone
between the X rated stuff and the regular stuff. And
there was this cover of this movie which I've never

(35:30):
seen and apparently it's Australian, but it's this movie called
Alvin Purple from nineteen seventy three, and the cover was
literally just a picture of two people's feet. One is
a man right with big, giant feet, and the other one,
I assume is a woman with smaller feet.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
And she's looking at it right now.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
She's in between him.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Right and it says he puts more than a little
color into girl's cheeks.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yes, it seems very sexy. But in my mind I
looked at that cover and was like, I think those
people are having sex because why were their feet Why
would their feet be like that?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
You know, Jackie Weaver's in this movie.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Uh huh, I've never seen it. It seems like I
probably wouldn't like it, but just because I don't like
stuff like this, But you know, but so there was
that movie. And then very similarly, I can't even say
this without laughing.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
There was.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Next to Alvin Purple. It was the cover of this
cheiach and Chong movie called Chiachin Chongs the Corsican Brothers
from nineteen eighty four, and it was basically a fucking
one of those like police Academy drawings of like Chiach
and Chong as babies and they're being held in the

(37:01):
arms of this woman with huge boobs.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And I was like.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Stunned when I saw that. I was like, why are
these grown men with beards? Why are they babies? And
why are they like grabbing this woman's breasts? So that
is literally like the covers that I remember is that
they were always horror and like sex comedies.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
So I'm basically my category is falling into the same
things because it was like not because basically I there
was like the sexy covers. Like for me at the time,
there was the Nicole Kidman movie To Die For. I
was like, ooh here, and then of course my beloved

(37:51):
Pam Anderson with barbed Wire, the barbed wire cover. I
would be like, hello, So those are two. I kind
of floated around, you know, checking out But the other
category of VHS covers that really had an impact on
me and really scared me were I would describe this
genre as like silly stupid things that are scary, and

(38:18):
that includes Child's Play two specifically, that cover really scared me,
Like Chucky really scared me as a kid, and I
was like really horrified at what that movie could be.
And the other one was Killer Clowns from Outer Space,
because that's also a horror movie that's like rated R,
and I'm like, but this looks silly. It's supposed to

(38:40):
be funny. Clowns are supposed to be fun, but this
is are rated and they're killing people. And so I
would be very scared and intrigued by those covers as well.
And then I would say the third category is like
weird looking guy in profile. So for example, Gummo, I

(39:01):
was like pretty young when that came out, but the
cover of that with the kids, the side of the
kid's head, you know he's looking. And then also the
cover for the movie The City of Lost Children from
nineteen ninety five, it's like that weird looking guy with
the contraption on his head. Oh yeah, I mean all

(39:22):
of these were very these movies. You'd see these covers
and you'd just be like, what could this possibly be about?
You couldn't even construct a movie in your head to
figure out what it was like too horrifying to even
be able to put together in my own mind. So
it's just totally you know. I it was like in

(39:45):
one of my in my when like I had like
an ongoing list in my head of like when I'm
old enough, I'm gonna watch that because I need to
know what's going on in there. Well, so those were
some of the covers I was most intrigued by as
a youth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, and like if you put the covers of Gumo
and City of Lost Children next year, it feels like
it's the same person. It's kind of a gaunt looking person.
And then with City of Lost Children there's like some
kind of crazy like steampunk nine inch snails, the downward
spiral shit happening, which I could as a kid, I
could tell you these are these would be terrifying.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, totally. So, yeah, so those are the covers that
I would just like, I would be like, what is that?
What is going on in there? And it's exciting to
have these feelings of like Unknown and mystery and horror
you know await to you. So those are the covers,
But what are some of Like what are some of

(40:40):
the VHS classics, like the classic movies? Maybe we can
each do like three or four? Uh, Like, how do
you define a VHS classic, I guess is the first question.
Then what are some of the movies that fall under
that for you?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
So I think it's either two things. I think it's
either number one, a movie that you rented over and
over and over again, sure right, which there were several,
some have made it to this list, some haven't. The
other is like movies that you owned and would watch,

(41:18):
because that, I feel like is a separate thing. It took.
It's actually really funny if I think about, like my
parents spending habits when when it comes to physical media, Okay,
they were so fucking random because my parents have no
I've joked about this before. They have like no allegiance

(41:41):
to literally anything, Like they don't buy things, like, they
don't care about No, they really don't, like I'll even
say politically, they don't. They never have a firm foothold
in literally anything. Ever, I feel like recently that's changed.
My dad absolutely hates Donald Trump, But if you had

(42:06):
talked to him in any other decade or any other iteration,
he would literally like couldn't tell you who he voted for.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
He's just not like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
You know, which is a parent thing. I guess That's
all I'll say about that. But they were different, different generations,
and they were just completely agnostic when it came to
like any movie, any album, anything like they don't like
my dad would like watch something on TNT like The
Mummy Returns and be like, that's my favorite movie of
all time. I'm like, there's no way like or whatever.

(42:37):
He'd watch like something on TV and be like, that's
the funniest movie I've ever seen. Euro Trip. But I'm like,
come on, Which is why I'm like the way I am,
I guess. But like if you would go through their DVDs,
like you would look at they they only had like
twenty and it'd be like some random shit and I

(42:57):
don't know why they would buy it. Yeah, But when
VHS was popping off, VHS's were really expensive.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Well when they first would like be released, Like a
movie would first come out on VHS and if it
was a popular movie, I think it would be like
thirty bucks. Yes, Like it's like it was expensive.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
It was expensive. It was the kind of thing where
like if you were a kid and you like wanted
to buy VHS tape, you would have to like ask
for one for Christmas and that's the only present you're
getting or something.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I got free Willie on VHS and that was like
the big gift and had just come out.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
You know, well, I was gonna say this during the
Pewee Love that you gave earlier, so I own I
think I still have it. I might not to be honest,
but you know they put out the Pee Wee's Playhouse
Collection on VHS. Yeah, and there was like I don't know,
ten fifteen tapes and then the sides all it was

(43:53):
basically one huge graphic of Peewee. If you put all
the tapes side by side in order so on your shelf,
it would just look like a cool pee Wee Herman
you know figure or whatever. My parents to this day
were like, remember when we bought that Pea Herman collection?
How much money we spent on that? Like they were like,

(44:14):
if you don't, if you don't have this for your
for your ancestors to sell on eBay, one day, I
was like, Mom, everyone had that, so don't worry about it.
But they were like, oh, we spent like two hundred
dollars on this whole collection, and like it's almost like
they had paid for like some kind of huge gift,
like where they.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Were like, they're not going to give you a wedding
gift now because they paid you. They bought you the
Peewee Herman H box set.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
But to that point, that's how expensive these ships were.
So back when my parents were deciding on whether or
not it would be worth the buy a VHS, they
would like, we if we if we buy this tape,
it'll be on sale, but be it'll also be something
that we want to own. It was a huge deal
to own, I think back at least at the very beginning.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
So there was sort of an understanding. It's like this
is it is sort of for practical reasons, like we're
going to watch this over and over again, so it's
just better if we own it. It's an investment.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Well, and that's exactly what happened. So I was obsessed
with that movie The Cutting Edge. Oh boy, I talked
about this before. What year did that come out?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
N I don't Pick. There's a bit of a Minnesota
connection to that too, is.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
The Dorsey from Minnesota as I was, I believe he is.
Oh my goodness, listen, I've gone on record talking about
how much I love this movie. In fact, D B.
Sweetey he wrote to me personally and told me that
he heard me talking about how big of a crush
I had on him. So I was so fucking obsessed
with the Cutting Edge that I was like, this is
the movie I want to own. Sure, I was like

(45:51):
by it for me, like I don't care, like out
Christmas and Birthday, that'll be my gift. So I got
a copy of The Cutting Edge on cassette and wore
it the fuck out. I watched it probably like twenty times.
So that is a huge one for me, Like that
would consider that to be a VHS classic for me. Yeah,

(46:11):
then I think there were like here's the other thing too.
I'm in a caveat what I just said about the
two about owning and renting. There also were movies that
were just so that they came out in the high
era of VHS that I feel like everybody owned.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Type of thing. Yes, that is its own category. I
feel like that also falls under VHS classic, Like every
house you went to had this.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
It's kind of like, is it the Jerry McGuire thing,
isn't that like a thing.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Well, yes, there's like a I don't know, you'd call
them a film collective, an art collective called Everything is
Terrible in Los Angeles, and they have this like exhibit
where they're basically collecting Jerry mcgare. It's like a they
had like a pop up VHS store of only Jerry
McGuire VHS tapes. Yeah, like thousands of them.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
So that like I would consider that kind of a
VHS classicos everybody, But for me, I think my VHS
classics were definitely stuff like the cutting edge, dirty Dancing.
Huge in our house was so I married an Axe Murderer.
We watched the fuck out of that on VHS constantly,

(47:23):
So most of my rentals were always because my parents
like an SNL adjacent comedy, So was all that stuff
for me. VHS classics for me were very heavily influenced
by Saturday Night Live movies. So, uh, so I married

(47:45):
an axe murder Wayne's World, Yes, that kind of stuff.
I don't know, I feel like I've been talking a
long time I want to hear a little bit more
about your what you think is a class and what
are some of your classics.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, well, you know, we weren't owning. I feel like
we did buy some VHS's, but we were such a
heavy rental family, Like it was like we were renting
all the time that I don't know if we just
didn't feel the need to buy as much, you know,
like we were gifted them, but it's like we didn't
like seek out buying VHS tapes that much. I think

(48:23):
we owned Hook, Steven Spielberg's Hook. I think we owned Jumanji.
You know, we had some Disney ones, but I don't
really feel I feel more connected to the ones we'd
like repeat rentals, not just with my family, but like
friends too. And one of the I mean one of
the ultimate VHS movies I think is Jurassic Park from

(48:48):
nineteen ninety four, just because that movie was such a
big deal when it came out, and the poster is
so good and the VHS cover is so iconic, and
it just it looked great and I just feel like
people everybody had that on their shelves at that time.
So I would include that as a VHS classic. Then

(49:11):
I would say, you know, it's like just think about
the movies that we rented all the time as a kid.
One it was Heavyweights. We rented that movie a lot
of course as children. We also we would rent this
movie with Bill Cosby called Ghost Dad all the time

(49:33):
because it was like we kind of liked sort of
it wasn't really scary, but there's like sort of a
horror element. A terrible film, but like we thought that
it's just funny when you like grow up and you
learn that these movies are like so bad and were
like total bombs but were like really popular. Yeah in
your own house, did you have any of those that

(49:56):
were like really vital and important to you? But you're like,
oh that was.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh yeah, Like I was nothing but trouble speaking of
like Dead Acroid, Oh my god, Like we watched the
fuck out of that and I was like, oh, this
is a masterpiece.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
No it's not.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
It's actually critically panned.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
It's like everybody hates this movie.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well, and here's the thing too. There was like I
don't know if you want to make this distinction or
you're about to make this distinction, but there was like
kind of two big eras for me my personal consumption.
So there was childhood VHS rentals and light purchases, and

(50:40):
then when I got to college, like high school and college.
Now VHS was still being used when I was in college.
So I went to college in like ninety seven, and
I was still renting VHS tapes from my local Atlanta
video store, Blossom Video. Right. I don't remember renting DVDs

(51:02):
until much later. I don't know why, but we were
still fucking with VHS back then. I also worked at
Tower Records for a brief period, and I would actually
use my employee discount to buy VHS tapes there. So
there's like this whole new era of my life after

(51:23):
I left my parents' house, where I was like buying
my own tapes a lot of times, like going to
thrift stores and finding tapes and there's this one. I'll
show it to you actually please. There's actually two so
very very early days of when I was in the
film program at GSU, I was starting to get into

(51:45):
exploitation film and I found this VHS tape that is
a movie called Crazy Fat Ethel two. Okay, Crazy Ethyl too, Yes,
and no, there was a one released by a company
called video treasures. Now the warning there's a warning label.

(52:10):
I loved warning labels. Don't you love those warning labels.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
This is just beautiful cover beautiful.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
The warning label says warning skull and crossbones never come
between Ethyl and a well stocked refrigerator.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Okay, now that warning is I guess warning the viewer
not if they encounter Ethyl out in the wild, to
not get in between her and a refrigerator.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I suppose I thought it was going to be like warning,
this video will kill you, like whatever They're like, don't
watch this movie unless you're ready to die, or some
kind of like you know, faces of death scenario. No,
it's really just the warning is that Ethyl is fat, essentially,
which is so crazy to me. But so I I

(53:00):
saw this at a like a antique store for five dollars,
and I was, so, I have no reference for this.
And again, this is like ninety seven. I hadn't even
seen the first movie yet, so I was like, I
have to buy this because this is just so insane.
And then I watched it and was like, this is

(53:20):
the one of the weirdest movies I've ever seen. It
was like pretty much shot on camcorder. I found out
later that this is actually a sequel to a movie
that was made much earlier called Criminally Insane, and it's
literally a movie about a murderous fat woman and it's

(53:41):
like a like trash, like no budget classic. In fact,
this entire there's a whole mythology around Ethyl and Criminally
Insane that I was just skimming the fucking surface with
crazy fat Ethel too. I didn't realize that there was
like a whole bunch of other movie is that the
director made with this actress. Priscilla Alden, who plays Ethel.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Is not does she prefer fat Ethel or she is?

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I don't think she prefers any of it, honestly. But like,
here's the thing. So I pick up this VHS tape
expecting like, oh, this is gonna be some weird thing,
and then I fell down a rabbit hole of wonder
and excitement.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Amazing, I just did.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I did a commentary track for the re release of
Criminally Insane with Elizabeth Purchell, my friend Elizabeth Purchell, who's
also a film critic and a film historian. But that's
like buying this tape like essentially changed my life. And
I had no idea why it just did so. Anyway,

(54:46):
this is obviously huge classic VHS classic for me in
my adult era, and then the other ones are just
sort of like like this, I'm holding this up and
none of you can see it. The clamshell of blood
Fees Trshall Gordon Lewis Blood Feast that has I don't
know if y'all remember clamshells, but it's basically the giant

(55:07):
VHS tape that was basically like can you hear this ASMR? Yeah,
a little squish here, it comes in a plastic It
was basically a VHS tape coming inside of a plastic
tray into a much bigger box.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
And I that was like early.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
VHS technology, or ultimately it'd be the old Disney clamshells
where it's be like the white case where you opened
it up.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yes, that's what I remember. Yeah, my free Willie VHS
tape was in a clamshell. I recall.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Well, what made you want to collect them again?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
That's a great question. I think partially I live in
a house now and I have room to just buy junk,
whereas before I was in apartments and I didn't want
to move with that stuff. And I also think there's
something about I've been sort of interested in really getting

(56:07):
away from streaming technology, and there's something very exciting about
like sort of the analog quality of a VHS tape,
Like it's like the physical tape itself. And maybe I'm
preparing for an apocalypse where we don't have the Internet
and I want to be able to watch movies, yeah,

(56:30):
on a little TV, and I don't know, it's an
you know, there's like the trailers are attached to it.
It's a whole thing. It feels like more of a
movie production than even like a regular Blu ray DVD
does now. And also they're cheap and that that's enticing

(56:52):
for me as well, yea in collecting.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Them so well, and like to your point, like I mean,
I'm not going to get out of soapbox about this
because we've talked about this so much with Brian Sower,
who we had on the podcast, and you know, just
the common wisdom as to why you should even own
physical media at all, which is that it's basically a

(57:15):
reliable physical presence of something that you can own and
watch whenever you want to, and you don't have to
rely on the cloud or the fucking whims of the
industry to take shit away from you.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Right, we were just talking about twenty eight days later. Yeah,
gotta buy it.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I mean there are things where there are times where
I mean I even have this like instinct about see
something on the internet. I'm like, damn, I wish I
could just record that onto a VHS sensor so i'd
have it, because it's almost like that was what it
felt like to, especially to record things off of television,
was that you just wanted a physical copy of something

(57:51):
because you're like, this is never going to play again,
or I don't know, i'd have to, especially when it
came to stuff like MTV and things that felt a
little bit more less kind of like television appointment viewing
and more just kind of ephemeral experiences where I'm like,
I want to watch all these like weird bumpers in
between music videos totally, you know, or I want to

(58:11):
watch like commercials or something or war, especially award ceremonies.
That was a huge thing that I used to record,
like the MTV Movie Music Awards or whatever. So I
was just thinking like even like times where like there
are moments from like award ceremonies that were like so

(58:32):
funny and weird that you're kind of like, oh, if
nobody recorded it, how would you even see it? You know,
like even now I think about what was that dive
that Travolta pronounced that woman's name Adele.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
One of my favor we could lead talented Adele Dezime
and it was supposed to be see he says, it's
so wrong. I can never remember the original name. Del
Do what's it Menzelle? Yeah? And she.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Her face is like.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
What did he just say?

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Ah? But like that is the ship that like like
makes like that was like a something that I'm like, oh,
if you can find like nuggets of these things, like
and you have it if you haven't recorded I mean shit,
I mean the internet is different now. You can watch
Adell disease anytime.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
You can watch that.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
But you know, in the day is something that that happened?
You're like that was like the time where I was
like obsessed with.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
There was a.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
The time where Howard Stern was fart man at the
MTV Music Wards and Luke Perry grabbed his ass chips.
But I was like, Luke Perry is grabbing a guy's ass.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I need that on me, Like who recorded it?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
So can I come over after school and watch it
over and over?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I mean that just goes back to kind of the
ephemeral nature of like television and movies before, because like
if you missed your favorite show and you weren't able
to catch it on rerun or whatever, you're like, fuck,
it's gone. It's most that episode. I just got to
watch next week, right, I gotta be there on time,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Well, And like we all sit here in the modern
era thinking that we'll never feel that again. We're like, oh, well,
everything will be available all the time and we won't
we won't have to worry about it. But then it's
like we were just talking about twenty eight days later,
it's like what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
You can't actually stream now? I'm sorry I lied about that,
but there's a long time where you couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Right, or like remember my name? You know? Yes, likely
once that goes off Criterion Channel. Maybe it has already
as of this recording, I don't know, but where you're
gonna watch it, It's that kind of feeling. So that's
that's the case of collecting things again. But VHS, I
feel like, is very special to I guess both of

(01:00:54):
us obviously, but like, yeah, for me, you know, it
was definitely like the biggest way for me to even
get into film as a young person. Even though I said,
like I said, my parents were so like like Lucy
Goosey about renting VHS tapes. They didn't care, but obviously

(01:01:16):
it really imprinted on me the culture of it, and shit,
I probably wouldn't be here for one form VHS.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Wow. So thank you VHS.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Is there anything else we should say about chel?

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I think we covered I think we covered everything. I
love VHS's I love the messy nature. It's an interactive
kind of format where you're like you are recording things
off the TV and owning it. I don't know, that's
like kind of cool, Like it reminds me of when
I used to record songs off the radio. You know,

(01:01:49):
it's like you're a part of it. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
My very first film production experience was when I was
in high school and I was in like an AV
club type of thing, and we were still recording things
on v Like we were studsing camquorders, editing deck to
deck with a video toaster, and I'll never forget that.

(01:02:13):
I'll never forget record like editing two VHS tapes together,
like they used to do it on like like I mean,
I just felt like I was in broadcast news or something.
I'm like, this is so old school.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I got to do that in film school too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yeah. And I have so many VHS tapes of literally
like me and my high school friends like running around
being stupid, like reenacting reserv our dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
So release the tapes you might.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
You might on our social media see a bunch of
goth kids running around to high school pretending to be
in reservoir dogs while a manner Astroman song plays the background.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
All right, we're back with you for some film advice,
where we your advisors, give you advice and how to
live your life and how to approach movies correctly. And
we have a voicemail for our first one here and
I'm going to play it for you right now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Hi Millie, Hi Casey. I had a question for you
guys for film advice. Have you ever had the opportunity
to be a judge for a film festival. If so,
what are some best practices or any overall advice that

(01:03:41):
you can give to a first time film judge. Thanks
love you lots from Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Thank you Rose. We love you lots too. Killie you.
I can't answer this question, but you can you help Rose.
I can.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
First of all, I have to say, if you have
a film festival and you need judges plays, contact us
at Dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Love to be a judge, being a judge, I would
love to be a judge.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
So I was, in fact a judge. No, I was
actually a judge more than one time. I think it
was twenty fourteen, either twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen. I
was a judge at Fantastic Fest, which is the film
festival in Austin, Texas that was put out by Alma Draftows.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
And attended and performed the same one. Not at that one.
Oh we're a different one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
I was gonna say, wouldn't have been crazy if we
were at the same one and we didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
And we bumped shoulders and I'm like, move it, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
And then they made a movie about it called Past
Lives with the director's slain song. Okay, so the so
the the category was like best New Filmmaker somebody. So
it was basically like first time horror genre filmmakers. And
that year was insane, Like well, first of all, it

(01:05:14):
was insane for a couple of reasons. Number one, I
was on the jury with two other guys, one of
whom was Edgar Ray, the director Edgarray, which was kind
of cool and memorable if you're in the edgarat.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
But the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
The movies for the year that we watched were in
like they were so good, Like I don't know what
happened that year. There was just like a lot of
great movies. The most memorable of them was the movie
It Follows. Yeah, so that was the movie that won everything.

(01:05:57):
But I remember watching that. We watched that movie as
part the jury, which meant you watch it so early.
I mean, like, that's the thing that's cool about film
festivals is that a lot of times you're watching things
before they become like huge. Yeah, right, because a lot
of times, if like you're an independent filmmaker or something,
you're taking movies out to the festival circuit to see
if you can get distribution. So that's the thing is

(01:06:19):
that you're watching stuff like way way early, and it's
awesome for that reason. That's why I want to be
on jurys. But I've been a juror for the Buried
Live Film Festival, which is a Horror Movie Festival in Atlanta,
the Atlanta Film Festival. So my advice is that a
lot of times you have to watch a lot of movies,

(01:06:39):
especially if you have like a big category like first
bet you know, like something like me that I had
at Fantastic FESTIV which is like a first time filmmaker category.
Pace yourself, this is my advice. Don't watch every movie
like two days before you're supposed to turn in your submission.

(01:07:01):
So I'd say pace yourself with the movies. Also, like
try to come in with like an open mind and
not have like preconceived notions about things because that, especially
if you're on a jury of like where you know
the filmmakers or you sort of like kind of know
the vibes of the people who are making the films,
you're gonna want to, you know, say, oh, well, I

(01:07:22):
didn't really like his last film, so let's see what
this shit's about. Like try to like empty your brain
of all that stuff and just watch each piece for
what it is. And that's really I would say the
big two is to just pace yourself with watching everything.
Watch everything, Watch everything, like you should watch everything. And

(01:07:44):
I know this is a little tea that I'm about
to spill, but I know people who basically hire people
to watch things for them. Not naming any names, but
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Our insider you know, wow, Like they'll, you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Know, if there's interns at the film festival and be like, hey,
will you watch all this stuff and tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
What you think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I have not reached that level of game where I'm
you know, basically I don't have a research staff. Yeah,
I'm still watching everything, but yeah, I think there it's
really really fun and enjoyable. A lot of times you get,
like obviously free badges and free accommodations and stuff, which
is another reason film festivals are fun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
So yeah, film festivals are fun. It does. There's such
a great energy at film festivals. It feels like a
little mini retreat or something. I don't know, it's it's
they're great.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
It's like a summer camp. That's what fantastic Summer is like,
is a summer camp.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Summer camp is a better better than retreat. Doesn't feel
like a retreat. It feels like summer camp. That's a
much better way of saying it. Fabulous. Let's move on
to our next question from our helpless listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Thanks ros.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Movie advice request from Cringey Millennial with the spooky ca
title kind of says it. All right there, dear million
Casey Day one listener, because I was obsessed with Millie
back in the olden days of her podcasts. Alabama girl
here who lived in Decatur marda shout out. I don't
even know what that means. For years, and I adore you,

(01:09:17):
Casey Hey. Oh wait, no, I said that wrong. Let
me say sorry, Alabama girl. Okay, for years and I
adore you, Casey Casey. I feel like you would have
been my best friend or unrequited crush in high school.

(01:09:41):
All right, here we go very positive. I love this,
I hate more of this. You need people to boost
me up more anyhow, you both rock. I humbly come
to you today for your sage advice. My man's eleven
year old is a horror girly yay like the rest
of the fam, but I I struggled to find films
that are appropriately scary. She's clocked things like Annabelle, Pet Cemetery,

(01:10:08):
creep Show, Poltergeist, etc. And I'm running out of ideas.
Six years in. We don't worry so much about blood
or gross effects. But so many films have quote unquote
adult themes she's not ready for, and we love watching
films together, but are trying not to traumatize her more
than we naturally do. She's getting used to my bug collection,
she said parenthetically. So do you have any RECs for

(01:10:30):
an eleven ish year old with a love of all
things spooky and scary that won't land me in her
therapist's office twenty years from now? Help ps, Scary doll
slash toy slash ghosts are always a favorite. Love y'all.
Heaps and from Ohio?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Unrequired cur Rush Few, Well, you know, Ernest scared stupid.
That's got some jump scares in there that an eleven
year old I think could handle. You know, I don't
know if I feel like this movie wasn't like Beloved,
but I thought it was kind of fun and sort
of scary and a kid could watch it scary stories

(01:11:09):
to tell in the dark based off the scary books.
I thought that movie was pretty good. Thank you. On
twenty nineteen. I think that was a pretty good and
like a spooky movie. That's sort of one that came
to mind immediately. What about you, Well, I'm glad that Ange.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Did a little ps about the scary doll toy ghost thing,
because I actually think that's kind of right on. I
would say gothic horror is kind of like a nice
little launch pad for, you know, people like eleven, twelve,
thirteen year olds anything that's kind of more A lot
of times those movies are like PG. Thirteen or less.
They're kind of atmospheric and creepy, but they're not like

(01:11:55):
super violent, and they don't really have like a ton
of like adult themes of like sure, I don't know
whatever fill in the blank, abortion, yeah, abortion, or like
you know, like I don't know, mattress side or patricide
or something. You know, it's like the Stepfather or something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Who who am I here?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
But the the one that immediately came to mind, and
I mentioned this recently in an episode, was Flowers in
the Attic from nineteen eighty seven, because it's kind of
like it almost in a weird way, is kind of
like a kid's movie in the sense that the protagonists
or children and they have to like go up against
like an evil grandmother, Like those are those types of

(01:12:38):
things are good, and it's it has very scary moments.
I mean, that movie scared the shit on me when
I first watched it. But it's also not rough. It's
not like super duper bloody or anything like that. Yeah,
you might have to deal with like affairs and some
light incest, but whatever, it's not that bad, right, It's

(01:12:59):
it's late.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
It's only kind of alluded to. It doesn't play out,
you know, in real time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
But another thing I was thinking is that kind of
like psychological kind of horror too, Like, uh, there's a
movie from nineteen seventy one. Now, this is a little
little artsy. I don't know if this is something that,
but it does. It's super viby and it's like very spooky.
But there's this movie called Let's Scare Jessica to Death
mm hmm, and it's basically like I mean, it's kind

(01:13:30):
of like not what you think it is. It's not
a woman named Jessica being scared to death. It's it's
really kind of more yeah, spoiler alert, it's more nuanced
than that. But it's you know, basically like a little
old school but it's very creepy, kind of supernatural feeling.

(01:13:53):
I mean, honestly, like I think about a movie even
like Suspiria, the Old Suspiria, which is violent, but it's
not like really hardcore in that way, like it's kind
of I don't want to say it's like artsy violence,
but it's like, I don't know, something like that. And

(01:14:13):
then if you really just want to go like Lost
Boys type of stuff where it's like teens vampires, you know,
I don't know, eves by you I was one that
I would consider part of that kind of let scare
Jessica to death thing. It's kind of like a children

(01:14:33):
but supernatural, and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I don't know. Okay, I have I actually have two
other ones here, great Return to Oz. Did you ever
see that from nineteen eighty five Return?

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I saw that. I think it's Walter Merch, the famed
sound designer's only directorial effort. But it's freaky as shit. Yeah,
it's scary, yeah, and uh it's a kid's movie, but
it's frightening.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
So I highly recommend that one. And then there's this
one from nineteen eighty one called Dark Knight of the Scarecrow,
which is like sort of a kid's horror movie but
it's scary and it's got some great actors like Charles
Derning in it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Yeah. So yeah, I feel like when it comes to horror,
it's kind of this weird scale because there's certain you know,
I was like completely unfettered. I could watch literally anything
I wanted because I had no parental supervision. So I
was eleven and watching stuff like Suspiria and Phenomena and

(01:15:35):
that kind of stuff. But you're kind of Mileage Mayberry
type of thing with it. But I do think that
like gothic supernatural kids in Peril type of horror tends
to be like less violent, less I mean mostly PG
thirteen and below.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
And yeah, the good Son with Macaulay Culkin. Yeah, it's
a spooky one. Yeah, I thought that was kind of scary.
You know, Milly, we have very different movie upbringings because
my parents were not strict, I would say, but they
were very strict about ratings. So like I was not
allowed to watch R or PG thirteen's until like the

(01:16:17):
appropriate ages.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah, as we heard in the Prince episode, you weren't
able to listen to Erotic City or something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I wasn't allowed to listen dirty motherfucker. I believe dirty
mf is what the sexy Oh SEXYMF SEXYF sexy mother. Yeah,
I wasn't allowed to listen to that when I was
eight years old.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Well, and look at you now, I mean, you're completely normal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
I'm a complete pervert. And uh, but it took me
a long time to get into horror movies. I feel
like I was very activated and frightened by horror movies
all the way through college. Yeah, and now I embrace
them and love them. Yeah, but it took me a while. Yeah,
because I wasn't I was an introduced young enough. I think.

(01:17:01):
So it's good she's getting introduced to horror movies at
a young age. I think so too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
And actually it's interesting because I know so many people
that actually hate horror movies. Like's not talking about people
my age, but especially younger, like people who won't let
their kids watch any horror like the cameras Candice Cameron
Lady most recently.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Yeah, what did she say? She's like, I don't. I
don't allow that because that's opening a portal to evil.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Yeah, it's basically like a portal to hell in her mind.
Which yeah, I'm not saying. I know people who have
her religious beliefs, but they also believe that horror movies
are satanic and evil, and I'm just like what.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I also think there's still a lot of people that
I think horror movies are like, those aren't real movies,
those aren't good movies.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
You know, Well you're missing out on some cool shit, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
So yeah, well thanks for that question. Ang, we have
one more here in Millie and it's like a bunch
of questions. So let's maybe do a little bit more
Rapid Fire. Sure in this? Okay, here you go. This
is from Rachel. Thank you. I know it's hard to
start a new thing, but I love this podcast. Thank
you for showing up every week. Here's too many more years. Yeah,
million are going to do this well into our sixties,

(01:18:12):
I hope. So I have movie questions and scenarios. One,
let's say someone is going on their third date, a
date at one of their houses. What's a great movie
to watch to ensure an interesting and fun night. Okay,
Rapid Fire, Yes, Rapid Fire, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Okay, So my number one first choice for third date movie,
I think the only option, well, actually there's two options,
but one for me would be Phantom Thread. I feel
like after the third date, if you can show Phantom
Thread to somebody and be like, what's your take?

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Yeah, would you like to be poisoned with mushrooms? Or
would you like to poison me with mushrooms? How are
you feeling about that? You know, it's a good barometer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
It's a really good barometer. I actually think it's extremely romantic.
One m like, I love you so much, i'd let
you poison me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Cool. Yeah, it's an unbelievably romantic movie. I love that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
We Gotta do that on we Gotta do We've been
talking about it forever. So it's either that or uh
Crodenberg's The Fly. I will say, oh, okay, another very
romantic movie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
In a lot of ways, you've got kind of like
you're like putting people to the test. On the third date,
You're like, what do you think? Are you cool? Or
are you not cool?

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Well, that's why I don't date people, because I have
like these extreme rules. I suppose nobody wants to make
it to a third date because they're like, I ain't
trying to watch The Fly with Sherman.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
So I'm just gonna say third date, that's what we
call the makeout date. Baby. So I would put on
something that I do not need to watch again, and
it's kind of like silly and don't need to pay
attention to at all. I would put on like the
Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo decat Aprio and Claire Danes.
We don't need to watch that, we know what's going on.
It's just kind of a vibe setter in the background.

(01:20:06):
So that's what I would play on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Very interesting your technique. You think that the third date
is the makeout date.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
That's the makeout date you're at someone's house. Well, yeah,
let's put on a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Sure, So you're telling me not to watch the fan thread.
I'm just saying we have very opposite approaches to the
third date. Listen, this is why you're married with a child.
I am single, So I think we know who wins.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Okay, number two, let's say I've lost my gusto. What's
a great movie to remind me that the world is
a place I'd like to engage in. Maybe a movie
that reminds me I can be better.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Okay, So my choice for this, I'm going a little
bit more trad considering the last question. I'm going to
go for a movie which is a wonderful film. It's
called Sounder from nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Oh, I've never seen this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Oh my god, it's lovely. It starts Cicely Tyson and
Paul Winfield. It is uplifting, it's hard. It's like a
story of you know, these southern sharecroppers, very very poor
black family, but they have this incredible familial bond and
it's just I mean, it makes me cry buckets like

(01:21:22):
I am. There's a scene in particular where Cicely Tyson
is running towards her husband who's come home. I can't
even talk about it, Like I'm feeling tearful right now.
It's so beautiful. And I don't know what I thought
about this, because I was like, Okay, there's so many
of these movies like that I've watched over the years,

(01:21:43):
like To Kill a Mockingbird, mister Smith goes to Washington.
This kind of like purely good, like uplifting, and I
just was thinking about like the times that we're in,
and like what kind of movie that would make me
immediately feel better about the world. And I'm like, there's
no way.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
It's so good. It's so good. I I don't know
if this quite fits the description, but this is a
movie that like really makes me feel good about community
and maybe sometimes like life can be so heavy at
times and so like even positive if something good happens,

(01:22:21):
it's like a heavy experience, and sometimes life feel should
be light. It should be light and kind of like nice.
And there's this movie called Local Hero from nineteen eighty
three by Bill Forsyth. It's about a guy from Houston
who's going to this small town in Scotland to basically

(01:22:45):
buy the town to like drill for oil. And he
gets kind of embedded in this community and everyone's just
sort of quirky and fun and it's just sort of
a light, happy world and it just makes me feel
good and it makes me feel good about community, and

(01:23:05):
because that's like the one thing that you can kind
of hold on to in these really hard times, is
like a sense of community your friends and your family.
It's like that is something that can maintain throughout the
hardship and show you that things are not awful all
the time. I mean, you know, like there's so much
terrible things going on right now, and it's fun. It's

(01:23:30):
nice to feel life. It's nice to feel when like
your existence is a little bit lighter, you know, And
I feel like this movie accomplishes that. I love Local Hero. Yeah, Okay.
Number three, what's a movie that makes me? What's a
movie that will make me poop my pants? Not that
I actually want to now, I don't really there's no

(01:23:52):
context for this question. What's a movie that will make
you poop your pants? Millie? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
So this is this movie is at the absolute opposite
of the movie that I just recommended. I would say,
in every single way, I was taking this this question
to mean, what is like a movie? What is one
of the most disturbing movies I've ever seen in my
entire life, to the point where it made me feel

(01:24:25):
physically ill? And I dare I dare I say that?
I don't even know if I recommend anybody watching this movie.
I'm just saying it to answer the question. Right. It
was this documentary from two thousand and seven.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Oh god, a documentary called Zoo.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
I know Zoo?

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
You know Zoo?

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I know. I don't recommend anybody watched this. I mean, honestly,
I feel okay. It's a very, very very complicated documentary
because it's essentially about beast reality. But it's done in
this very the presentation of it is very artistic. I
guess this is the best way to put it. It's
like a tasteful It's basically like an attempt at making

(01:25:13):
an artistic, tasteful documentary about this extremely taboo subject, right.
And I was in my shithead phase when I watched it,
because I totally totally had heard about it forever and
me and April Richard said, and a bunch of my
friends watched it. It was like so unsettling and disturbing

(01:25:34):
that I felt gross, Like I felt disgusting watching it.
I mean, I felt like I was gonna pukes, well
and not shit my pants coming out the other end.
I was like, oh, I don't, I feel like I'm
going to vomit? Like it just was not. It just
was so too much that I was just like, you know,
I mean, if I if I scope out and think

(01:25:55):
about what a filmmaker would like, a filmmaker who is
trying to do something like that, like trying to take
this extremely macabre subject material and like making something artistic
out of it, that in and of itself is an
interesting kind of thought experiment.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
But I just felt like it was I could not
too much, too much. I've never seen it, wow, And
I don't think I.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Will see it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
I mean, like I said, I don't want to. I
don't want to tell people not to see it in
the sense that like you should watch the things that
you are curious about, right, But well, I would never
watch this again, like I would never watch it again.
But that to answer your question, that is the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Does that make sense? Okay? Yeah, absolutely, My recommendation, not
even recommendation. Is a two thousand and six movie called Taxidermia.
It's a Hungarian film. It's like a three part movie
about one family's throughout one family throughout the years, and
one part of the stories is this speed eater and

(01:26:59):
the Cold Old War, and the last chapter is about
a modern day taxidermist. This is one of the most
disturbing and disgusting movies I've ever seen. There's a lot
of vomiting with the speed eating. There's a lot of
body hord, body dismemberment, people getting eaten by cats. It's crazy,

(01:27:21):
but it also feels sort of fantastical. It feels like
Amie kind of. So it is a wild movie and
buckle up. It's got one of the most shocking endings
of a movie I've ever seen. Wow, including Taxidermy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Wow. So we both went kind of fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah we did well. Thank you all for your questions
for film advice. I hope we helped everybody out there.
I think we did. Millie, it's time for employees picks.
What is your film recommendation based on the theme of
discussion today?

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
So I'm gonna recommend I recommend something that's just so
fucking's stupid because I must, and this was a huge
thing for my childhood. So I'm going to recommend The
Little Mermaid. Wow, I'm gonna unexpected recommendation. And the only
reason why the Little Mermaid. So the Little Mermaid came

(01:28:20):
out in nineteen eighty nine. Okay, if you remember this,
you'll know exactly why I'm recommending it because there was
this I think I know I've been legend about how
there was a dick on the cover of the VHS
tape for The Little Mermaid. I remember this, well, yeah,

(01:28:44):
huge scandal. And I simply typed in the Little Mermaid
penis into Google and immediately read it came up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
It was like I just found it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Somebody's like I just found a cover of the old
the Rare Penis Tower VHS case, and I'm looking at it, going,
I can see why people think it's dick, but also
it doesn't look like a dick.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, yes, one hundred percent.
But also I believe in that movie there's a part
where a priest gets a boner. Do you remember this
part about the Little Mermaid?

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Is this the same one? No, I'm thinking of Aladdin
where it's that young teenagers take off all your clothes whispering.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Yes, it's sort of a similar thing. But there's a
part where somebody gets a boner.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Yes, because there's a YouTube clip of it that I'm
looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Yes, Little Mermaid erection. I'm looking around. Yeah, yeah, and
you do see. I mean it looks like this priest
gets a boner. And I remember Watson, I remember rewind
me and my friends trying to find that and finding
it on a VHS stack. This one is more damning

(01:30:12):
I would say that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Yeah, my god, that just doubles down my recommendation to
watch a little the Little Raid. I fucking can't believe
that this is a three second loot YouTube clip that
you can just watch, so that that's my recommendation. Nineteen

(01:30:36):
eighty nine is The Little Mermaid for obviously several reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Now, I think there was also in Lion King when
like Simba hits some dust and it spells sex.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Yes, that was okay, that was the other one I
was thinking of. So there was like the Triumvirate, there
was the Little Mermaid, Dick Aladdin, young teenagers take off
your clothes, and then the sex cloud in Lion King.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Yes, wow, mighty Triumvirate. Very good. I'm going in a
slightly different direction and I'm recommending a twenty twenty one
film called Sensor and it is set in nineteen eighty
five and the main character works for the British Board
of Film Classification during the height of the video Nasty controversy. Now,

(01:31:20):
the video Nasty controversy was like a lot of censorship
of low budget horror and exploitation films in the UK
distributed on VHS tapes in the early eighties. And this
movie is a really good, I thought horror, kind of
vibey horror movie, but it also kind of explores that
time and what was going on with the video nasties

(01:31:42):
and sort of VHS culture and subculture. So I thought
it was a really fun movie from twenty twenty one
Censor Sins by the director Prano Bailey Bond, and they
wrote and directed it, and I thought it was really good.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Great, that sounds amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Right, Oh my goodness, Millie, we're all done, thank god?

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Oh thank god? What an episode. Yes, indeed, I am
still rewinding tapes as we speak.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Yes, if you want.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
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(01:32:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
Oh my god, next week's episode. I feel like it's
a bit of an anniversary. Maybe, is that true.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Okay, it feels well, anytime I watch this movie, it
feels like someone's anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
We're coming upon the thirtieth anniversary.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
Okay, So next week we're coming upon an anniversary of
a very important film.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
A VHS classic. I would say, maybe for you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I saw it on television on Showtime.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
But it is a movie that has delighted, polarized, scandalized, aroused, aroused,
certainly made people want to have sex and pools. It's
the movie show Girls from nineteen ninety five, directed by
Paul Rohovean. We're going to just go super.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Hard on it. The theme is Showgirls. Yeah, the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
We're going to talk about it. It's all of its implications,
all of its isms. We might get into the filmography
of Verhoven, just you know, placing this movie upon his
other masterpieces. But I do think it's worth just like
talking about only because it is thirty years old. It
would be interesting to compare and contrast this to stuff
that is happening like now, like things that are out

(01:34:25):
now and sort of like, I don't know the persistence
of this film over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Yeah, super interesting, a lot too unback. I can't wait
to talk about it, and I can't wait to watch this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
I watch it annually. Maybe it's playing actually at the
REP Theater in my town very soon.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Wow. So fabulous, Yeah, wonderful. Well that's all we got, Millie,
I can give no more.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Well, I will say I enjoyed this episode. I think
you are wickedly talented, and I was really excited to
hear about all of your VHS classic picks.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
So me too. To you, Millie, You're also wickedly talented.
Say it next, Rake.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
This has been an exactly right production, hosted by Me
Milli to Cherico and produced by my co host Casey O'Brien.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel. Our associate producer
is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and
our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Our incredible theme music is by the best band in
the entire world, The Softies.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia hart Stark,
Daniel Kramer and Millie to Jericho. We love you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Goodbye, Beker

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