June 20, 2022 • 66 mins
Blair welcomes Grace Kuhlenschmidt (Search Party, Ziwe) to the show! Grace comes on to profess her love to a certain beloved pop star of yesteryear.
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Hi everyone, and welcome back to another week of your
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episode is so special. I'm really excited. Um. We have
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Grace cool Instrumidt on the show today, and you know
her from this past season of Search Party, Ze Way
this year and Hot White Highs. She's also an internet sensation,
so follow her on Twitter and so Graham TikTok at
g Kollyn Schmidt and Yeah, I just love Grace. She's
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such a unique voice and also so special. She was
on the Trevor Moore Show when I co hosted it
with Trevor and my dear friend Trevor rest in Peace
was such a fan of Grace. He was like, I
think she's the funniest person. I go on TikTok just
to watch her, and so I really like, sort of
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I feel like fell in love with Grace through him,
which is cool. I don't know if I told her that,
but yeah, I wish I did. If I didn't, I
will next time I see her. Um But this episode
is so so fun and I just think Grace is
a hilarious genius. So please enjoy, and yeah, follow me
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(02:39):
and welcome back to the Dear O and Wilson podcast
and your host, Blair Sucky. Podcasts are incredible what incredible medium,
and it's great to be back with my fans, my followers,
the devoted Blair Bears all across the globe. You guys
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are Robbid. What would I do without you? Assure as
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right now without all of your support and love. You guys,
do I have a show for you today? It is
so crazy. You wouldn't even believe the guests that I
have secured for you out of the goodness of my heart.
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This person is another international superstar. You may have just
recently seen her on the hit HBO Maxhell Search Party. Incredible.
I'm so pleased. Please welcome my guests today. Cool hich
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so good to be here, Grace, while what I get
for the podcast? Okay, I know that we had to
pay you an incredible sum of money to be here,
but nonetheless, I am so grateful that you made it.
Where At first I was like, no, some of money
(04:16):
could could get me to go on this podcast, But
then I thought about it, and I thought, you know you,
you look like you have a good heart, and it
could be good for me to do something good for
for other people for once. Oh my god, I love
that philanthropic energy. That's what the world needs more of.
Just a for sure s lilious, Did you have an aquarius? Baby?
(04:43):
Where are you ev the up people, the giving, the
receiving incredible, Well, Grace, I know what you know what
this podcast is about. It's based off a letter I
wrote to Owen Wilson in two thousand seven telling him
how much he loved him. You know, I have my
guests come on read letters to celebrities day love, and
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then I interview them shrewdly, more intensely than Mark Mayrin
ever could, and so without further ado, I would love
do now hear your letter? Okay, let's do it. Mm hmm.
Dear Mandy meaning Mandy More, I don't know. Yeah, I
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don't know what you're up to today, and I don't care.
I love you. I think you're in a television show
called This Is Us, but it could also be called
this is Life for us as life, that's not the point.
And you know that the highlight and peak of both
of our lives was when you released the music video
for Candy. You were so tall and blond, and it
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was awesome. I will never be taller, blonde, or even skinny,
but I'm trying to stay body positive. I thought I
had a crush on Land and Carter in A Walk
to Remember, but I didn't because I'm a lesbian. But
I also didn't have a crush on you and that day.
But I did have a crush on you in the
Princess Diaries, even though you were mean. My favorite thing
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about you is that you made me discover that blondes
are my type. But then you became a brunette and
I realized that all child are my type. That's it
the end. Oh my god, Wow, you know, talk on myself.
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Sometimes people come on here and the amount of emotion
poured into their letters is just bone chilling, and this
is one of those times. Definitely you can tell I
wrote this. I mean wow. So Mandy was so pivotal
(06:59):
for you, Hull Grace, huge for me, huge for me.
There's just she really is like also she's kind of
a like a kid ish star who turned out really well.
Yeah where where it came really a full circle because
you're worried about her. She had that stretch and like
apparently she was in that like not super great relationship
(07:22):
with that um acoustic finger man. Um. We won't even
say his name even though we know it. Um, we
won't even give him fucking airtime on my podcast by
a bye loser. Nobody knows your name, sweetie. Um, isn't
(07:45):
that sad, little baby? That's how I talked to him.
How aren't you so sad? You hurt? A beautiful girl,
so grace. I forget where you go up. But I
grew up in a very conservative place, and so when
I watched Mandy Moore at that time coming up, like
(08:09):
I was simultaneously attracted to her but also not realizing that,
like it was attraction but also like I wanted to
be her so bad, but also attraction. But I'm like,
how does someone be like a perfect person like that?
I don't know, but you know, she really has so
much range, like it actually is crazy. In just the
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span of a few years, she was like a walk
to remember, so, you know, religious sick girl to Princess Diary.
To Princess Diaries meant popularity. Yes, Also, did you ever
watch I was just gonna say Saved because I was
obsessed was Saved when it came out, Like I thought,
(08:55):
it was so genius and funny satire. Yeah, it was
so good. I honestly don't even remember the plot, but
I remember watching and being like I felt like too young,
and I was like, this is crazy that I'm watching
this because they're talking about drugs right right, and you're
a little goody goody. Um totally. I love Saved because
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like anything, um, I just love like nasty ship and
I still love um. You know, all the ins and
outs of like religion and its effects on us. It's
so interesting to me as adults. But anyways, let's get
into the interview that everybody has been waiting for great now.
(09:39):
Some of these are hard hitting questions. I must remind
you that I do have my private investigator, Lucian Wiggles,
whom I pay to do all my research, and some
of these are his questions and I have nothing to
do with me, So just please keep that in mind. Yeah,
I didn't meet him in the Current River one day
when I was out there fishing. But okay, the first
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question I have for you Mandy Morris quoted as saying,
according to Lucian Wiggles, a smile is so sexy, yes,
so warm. When somebody smiles at you, it's the greatest
feeling in the world. Do you also agree that smiles
are sexy and warm. Why are why not? Yes, because
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they're the only place for those teeth. They're the only
place on the body where there's teeth. There are no
teeth anywhere else, and that it's something to be said
that is true. Teeth are so sexually attractive. Like Mandy
moris teeth. I remember looking at her teeth being like,
how's anywanna have teeth like that? They're so big, there's
(10:48):
a white, there's so glacial mm hmm. And so that's
why she said that quote. You know, I would bet
I would bet that if she didn't have such a
sexy smile, she wouldn't have said that quote. Well, you're right,
I think you're typing. You're tapping into an emotional layer here. Okay, good,
(11:09):
I like that answer, Grace. That was good, all right,
thank you. So. According to Lucian Wiggles, Mandy is quoted
as saying, I've gone skydiving twice. I was terrified of
doing it, but I wanted to overcome that. The first
time I did it with my parents, and I remember
they had already both jumped out and suddenly it was
(11:32):
my turn, and I thought, well, I don't want to
be an orphan, so I guess I have no choice,
and then I jumped out of the plane. Grace, do
you also fear imminent abandonment at all times that causes
you to feel forced to make life threatening choices? I do? Yeah,
(11:52):
I guess. You know. I'm realizing, Mandy, I have so
much in common. We seem very compatible, even um well
for well, I would not. I don't think I'll ever
ghost skydiving, so I kind of can't understand that person, right,
But abandonment absolutely, I'm trying, you know, don't. I always
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think about the like people who turn a hundred and
the fact that they've seen every single person they know
basically die. Whoa. Yeah, that's a crazy direction to take this,
but so true, so rooted in truth. Yeah yeah, to
see everyone die around you, oh yeah, big time. Yeah.
(12:35):
And yeah just somehow just wake up another day and
want to eat your oatmeal, Yeah exactly, Yeah, drink your
drink your coffee with with milk without you know, you
know what, it's crazy, Grace. While I was reading that,
and I'm not a mother yet, but I will be.
(12:56):
I cannot imagine jumping out of a plane with my
children's father before my child had gone later have a
good one. They were just like having so much fun.
They're like, finally, I wonder if he is. My guess
(13:18):
is that this happened? We don't know, But my guest,
do you know what year that quote is or that
year they sky? Lucian must have been really busy making
his uh loop around the vast pro shops this week
because he did not supply the years for these quotes,
(13:39):
which is unlike him. But yeah, kind of a could
have been drunk, that's true. He does like to have
a few spirits now and then you know, I wonder
like when are you going spa diving with your parents? Also, yeah,
what led to this moment? But I just think it's
so funny, like they're like, okay, see on the ground, Mandy. Yeah,
(14:04):
they're like honeymoon yeah, and like their daughters so terrified,
and it's like, I don't think I want to do this,
but I also don't want to be an orphan. That
makes me think that there's something a little there. She's
weird for sure, I feel like I can tell just
by looking at her. But that kind of confirms that
(14:26):
I think she's weird. Yeah, look that she initially went
to Orphan. I think I would go to Orphan though,
I mean she was just like, I have no choice.
I actually, if I can be candid with you and
my followers, which I think is you know, all you
can hope for me as your host. Um. I went
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to these lake trips and I'm the youngest in my family,
and we would cliff jump, but I'm like severely afraid
of heights, and so it would always and I'm also
like the only girl my family, and so would be like,
let's go pussy and like a few times I got pushed,
but like I never wanted to go, but I was like,
I guess I just can't stay at the top of
the cliff when my whole family has gone down, right,
(15:10):
I've definitely done that to Actually for me, it's like
when I've jumped off a cliff into like some sort
of body of water. It's not like the height that
freaks me out, because I don't think I'm scared of heights.
Like you know those things in New York where you
can go up to a building and go up to
the top floor and like the glass the floor is glass.
(15:32):
That sounds fun to help for me, But it's the
jumping part. And I think it's because, like I'm, I
feel like I'm I haven't even had that many injuries,
but I feel like I'm prone to injuries, and I
avoid injuries by not doing things like jumping into a
body of water from a large height. Yeah. But I
would you say that you're paranoid or that's just like
(15:53):
your internal safety system guiding you out of harm's way. Mmm,
I don't know. I don't think paranoid is the right word.
Pussy kind of pussy honest. Yeah. Yeah, but maybe you
just like to feel good, you know, Like I'm one
of these Yeah, I like to feel safe too. I'm
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not one of these adrenaline junkie people. I think it's
because I did a lot of extreme sports as a
kid that like, I don't know if I necessarily liked.
I just felt like I had to do in order
to receive love from my family. Um, like all the
surfing and snowboarding and cliff diving and night snorkeling and stuff.
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I was like, I don't think I really liked those things. Yeah,
I think I'm tired as an adult from them. Like
all I want to do is sit down I know,
well mean too. I Mean, my ideal evening is doing
is doing nothing, kind of kind of finding a new
reality TV show to watch for me. But like even
crossing the street, I'm like, of course, I live in
(16:55):
New York, anywhere I would live jaywalking. I do it
every single day. Yeah, but I'm not the type to
like rutten across to avoid a car, you know what
I mean. Like, I'm the type where, like my friends
will walk across the street at a red light and
I'm waiting for them all. Oh my god, I'm the
same as you, Grace. I'm the same as you, Grace.
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Why do you think that is? Are you the youngest?
Are you the youngest? Yes, I think it has something
to do with it being the youngest, because I saw
my brothers just continuously sustained like deep gnarly injuries from
like doing back flips and jumping off roofs and just
like all this dumb ship and so it always looked
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to me like, I don't know if I'm just like
my i Q is off the chart, but I'm gonna
stay I want to stay on the ground. No, that's
definitely only that's unn fact. Both of our i Q
are off the fucking charts. Yeah, it's so crazy that
we have met on a podcast together with all the
i Q combined between us. Yeah, it's unbelievable how we're
(17:59):
just we're just below Albertine's time. Yeah. Well, it's funny
that you bring up the crosswalk thing because I'm always
doing the same ship and I also have a thing
about me. You might be able to tell almost such
a chill dude, I don't like to rush. I don't either.
I'm always early. I was on this podcast three minutes
earlier too, so was I. I'm always early because I
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don't want to experience stress exactly. There's nothing that I like.
I'm pretty lucky. I don't feel like I experienced anxiety
on the daily. But if I do, it's because I'm
running late somewhere or something. Right, Yeah, I have you know,
after a lifetime riddled with anxiety depression, come to become
(18:42):
to a really low thank God, thank the Heaven's angels,
whoever is around us, um come to a low anxiety
place at this age, and it feels good. I'm not
trying to run in front of a car to make
it across the street. No, absolutely not, And I'm not
see it's like, it's not paranoia though, it's literally just
(19:02):
like why yeah, yeah, oh my god, I better uses
of my time, bitch. But also I feel, you know, Mandy,
I hope and I suspect that at this age, after
you know, all the iterations of herself that she has experienced,
she's probably not jumping out of a plane anymore, just
(19:24):
to not be an orphan. I hope, not. God, I
fucking hope not. Poor girl. So she became so successful though,
like at a late turn, and I am always so
happy for those people. M h me too. I mean
she's really the money is only going up. Yeah, that's
(19:44):
like the number one show on TV. My mom loves it. Yeah,
I watched them. I think I watched one episode of it.
It's so soapy. You know, really, you're not it's not
my thing? Really, what is your thing? Race? I love
reality TV? Like um, I mean I truly have been
(20:06):
watching The Bachelor for like I said, that was like,
oh really, so that's your thing in the Bachelor. Okay,
the Bachelor I love, like, um, the Challenge on MTV.
I love below that, right, I love any dating shows? Right?
Did you watch off as Blind? I did, Yeah, okay, great,
(20:28):
I seek it. Yeah, yeah, I hope Deep is doing okay.
What's up Deep? Deep? Me too? What's up Deep? Do you?
Thanks for listening? Thank you for being and I have
a listener of the Deal and Listening podcast deept hope
you have. I love baby absolutely incomfortable. Um okay, we
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do need to move on at this point into the
next question of the interview. If that's okay with you guys,
It's okay with me. Yea. I am enjoying how much
I am learning about you though. Wow, this is a
(21:10):
good time. Um okay. So Mandy, according to Lucian Wickaus,
said it feels important to go to school, not necessarily
to further my education, but more like just for a hobby.
Do you, also, Grace, feel that we should make education
(21:31):
optional in this country? And be careful what you say
was your answer, because there is a thing called Twitter
these days. Grace, I really think it should be optional.
I mean, but I don't care like like I mean
to be fair. In hindsight, we're comedians. So school for
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us basically was a you know what I mean? None
of my classes led to this right, college specifically like
college literally the comedy I was doing. There wasn't extra curricular.
So if that if my extra curricular listen up, and
my extra curricular has now become my career, then all
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of my schooling was actually my extra curricular. Whow the
sound of my brain exploding because the seatbelt on. Whoa,
Oh my god, that my crush says to me, because
I just got flown against the wall. Grace, Grace, big
(22:40):
dropping truth bombs on my audience globally. Yeah, you're gonna
see me. You're gonna see me doing the graduation speeches
at ivy leagues and just saying that one sentence. You're joking,
but I think that actually will happen, and I'm gonna laugh.
We are going to have a laugh together when you
make a commencement speech at an IVY league school. Um,
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I am surprisingly. I don't know if you could guess this,
but I actually really love school. And I have a
master's degree in what creative writing, which is basically like um,
going to a place to light money on fire. But
I didn't read a lot and meet a lot of
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really cool people. I did think I wanted to become
a novelist, and but I started comedy at the same time,
and then I was like, oh um, this is much faster.
Oh definitely, that's so interesting. Yeah, you should have it
up on your wall. You know how in doctor's offices
they have their degrees on the wall. That's fucking hilarious.
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I don't even know where my degree is. I guess
I could call them and ask for one. I don't
even think I have my undergraduate degree. But anyway, the
funny thing is like, if you're a smart comedian, you
know you knew when you were young, Like I didn't
know at all. Like I've never even seen a comedy
show till it's twenty five. Never in my life. You
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didn't even watch the clevene Is. I wasn't exposed to
any of it. I grew up in Orange County, which
is just not a place of the arts. Like I
wasn't really exposed to very much culture. My whole life
was sports interesting, and it's not really like no one
knows anything about like arts are down there. Yeah. I
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know he's in a really non condescending way. I don't
mean that to sound condescending, because you know there is
value there. But yeah, and there's some Orange County listeners.
I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, there's just it's just different
values of other things are important. But anyways, we must
move on. Um, I know you do. Okay. She doesn't
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think education should be optional in this country. So Hillary Clinton,
if you're listening, um, please don't kill my friend. Okay.
So um. According to listen Wi Gles, Mandy has said
love is like nothing else on this earth, but only
when it is shared. Was someone wonderful like you who Grace?
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If you had to guess anyone in the world, maybe
you need to tap into your clair voyage right now?
Do you think Mandy was saying this about Oh my God?
Where it was caught on audio? Yeah? You know. Okay,
let's see what what other show has Mandy been in
(25:40):
besides this is Us, Like, I'm not sure I should
be any other long Storm shows because I would like
to think she said this too a co star perhaps
perhaps her does she have a husband now, I think so.
I hope she has a really hot husband. That's really nice, sir.
(26:01):
She Maybe she said it to him while she was
giving an acceptance speech ocar, Oh my god, I would
love that. I would love if that were happening. You know,
I do have to say because I do have an
incredible intuition. Back when she was marrying he who should
(26:22):
not be named, I was worried. I was worried because
I was like, he seems like a moody little bit
who's really running through a lot of nice women, and
they seem like they've gone through the washer machine after him.
You know, yeah, you know, Okay, this Actually I think
what I'm about to say is genius. Of course, it
is like so many sentences that I've said today, But
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um uh Manny Moore gives me similar like Jennifer Garner
vibes like they're they're good girl. Energetically, I can tell
that they are a bit hard to date, just in
terms of like they are very good two shoes, but
they can't be with the bad boy. It just doesn't work,
you know what I mean, The bad boy is too
(27:06):
bad for them. While I'm just experiencing this profound truth,
because I do also relate actually, um now putting myself
with Jennifer Garner and many more, because I am too.
I cannot date the bad boy anymore anymore. Oh my god,
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would you cause about yourself as the Mandy Moore or
the bad boy? Whoa and please do be honest, because
it is a Wednesday in March. I honestly don't think.
I think there's three types of people in this world,
the more, the bad boy, and the lesbian. And I
think I'm a lesbian. Oh so what then? What a lesbian?
(27:54):
The hybrid like a bad boy and a goody goodie. Well,
I'm like, I don't think I could be the bad boy.
I'm definitely not the goody two shoes, right, but I
do love to follow the rules. Um yeah, it's just spiritually.
There are some bad boy trades about me, but only
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in like the things I like, the crazy like I
like to my alternative artists lifestyle. But really I feel
I have the goody good e uh values of the heart,
you know. I want the sweetness, the tenderness, the loyalty,
the honesty. Well, I'm I'm a person in relationship. I
(28:40):
say I love you, um upwards of fifteen times today. Yeah,
I'm like that too. I love that I've always Yeah
that sounds really really good. Right. Okay, So Mandy Moore
just got married. According to Lucian wiggles Um, Mandy joe
Us was married, that's just in to a man named
(29:03):
Taylor Goldsmith. Um, so he looks cute. I looked him up. Yeah,
it's nice. I hope this is her, um happy ending
musician again though. And here's what I'll tell you, friend.
I had a friend in college. I'm telling you right now,
okayend in college who dated a musician and they were
(29:27):
very in love maybe sophomore year, and then they broke up.
And then junior year he was like pretty talented. He
has an amazing singing voice, and people really liked him
on campus. And the junior year, you know, he sang
all of the songs that he wrote about her still
because those were his songs. And I remember being in
the back of this concert. I'm thinking to myself, I
will I shall never date a musician because I was
(29:51):
like experiencing heartbreak just knowing that these like there's a
song about their love. Wow. Yeah, I that's so true. God, Wow,
you have a heart of an angel. I'm incredibly empathetic you.
Oh my god, an EmPATH like you is just a diamond.
(30:15):
Not I know, my listeners are going absolutely wild. You're
losing their motherfucking minds rightfully, so so am I. Yeah,
you know I feel the same. I like I will
be not going through a breakup, and then I'll hear
(30:35):
a song about a breakup and I'll just be like,
oh my god, the pain is so the love that
was lost is just so deep. It's crazy. I found
this song the other day that is so good, and
I was listening it's about like I think it's about
someone cheating on them from what I can tell being
(30:56):
an EmPATH. Sure, And I was literally thinking in relationship
dating someone that I'm positive would never cheat on me.
I remember like putting myself and being like what if,
what if this is how it would feel? This song
is perfect and being like, wow, the song does such
a good job. Yeah. It just means you can really
tap into the feelings of others. It's just an incredible
(31:18):
trade of a high i Q person. Um Grace, I
am amazed at your capacity for such a young person
to just be in a very healthy, deep committed relationships
so early on in your life. That's very good. And
how long have you been together? Yeah, you know, that's
(31:40):
that's that's confusing because we did break up for one
year at one point. If you go start to finish,
it's about six years. Holy sh it, that's no joke.
That sounds like to love and college sweethearts. Wow, I
love that, even though you said that educate Shian is disposable. Um, okay,
(32:03):
we do need to move on. Um. According to Lucian
Wiggles research, uh Mandy is quoted as saying, my hair
is naturally dirty, dishwater light brown. It's ugly. Now, Grace,
what color hair do you think is most ugly? Um?
(32:27):
I mean, and I am sorry for the hard hitting
nature of these questions, but I have a fiduciary commitment
to my audience. I'm gonna need everyone to pull over
right now if you're driving, because I I am gonna
hurt a lot of people's feelings here and for me,
(32:48):
the ugly hard. But the least I'm thinking good is
the redhead and I'm part of it. I'm part of it. Whoa.
So it's so there is a little bit of self
abusive ginger happening. Sometimes people blare with such high i
(33:08):
q s and hate themselves. It's just to me. I mean,
maybe if you I just always wanted to be blonde
my whole life, right because also like growing up by
the beach too, It's like, where'd you call it? I
grew up in l A very close to you really,
which part the palisade? Gorgeous, orgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous and nice
(33:34):
no matter how many literal surf camps you take, because
I took a bunch of them, my hair never turned
blond and I still have bad at surfing. Yeah. Wow,
oh my god, we have so much in common. Um,
that's incredible. God. You know, it's funny that you say
(33:57):
that about gingers because I famously, Um, I'm really attracted
to redheaded people, mostly date redheaded people. No, No, I
wouldn't say have mostly dated redheaded people be hard because
they're you know, there's not aren't that many of them? Yeah? Yeah,
but what I I don't think anyone could have a
(34:19):
through line of the could find a through line with
the people through the looks of the people that I've dated.
They could not find any patterns, even the most skilled really,
even the most skilled researcher. That's hilarious. Good for you
(34:41):
for kind of going to the ends of the earth
to find new boys every time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the
thing is, like I grew up, Uh, the first two
thirds of my life were only around like one type
of people, just like extremely masculine sports guy. And then
(35:03):
I got into the arts, and it's like, um, nerd
guy who is nerd in high school? Who talks really
well now, you know. And what we were saying about
the musicians the comedians, because you know, I've mostly only
dated comedians, um in the last chunk of my life,
because that's the only men that I'm around. Um No,
(35:26):
I've retired from that. Uh. Ultimately, I found my life
forced to be too depleted, and I decided that I
would like someone else to be the one with their
feet to the ground in the relationship. The moral of
the story is, I do find some redheads just like
so attractive, like, um, what's his name? Damian Lewis from Homeland?
(35:52):
From Homeland and a billion Dexter? What about dexter Michael C. Haw?
You classify him as a ginger. He's a ginge in
the same way that you're a ginge. It's like a
green nugent. Yeah, just a hint, just a little, just
a pinch of ginge. Yeah. But you know what, it's
(36:13):
what I must say. It's like, it's just that I
think blondes they're they're lucky to me, because I wish
I was wrong and brunettes. You're the default. So it's
kind of like, you know what I mean, You're you're
totally you're on the right path, and Ginger's it's just
it's just random. It's random. It's really what comes down to, Yeah,
(36:35):
I think I like a little random. The thing that
the essence what I've always said, and I'm not even
joking about Ginger's I've said this since I was a child,
is that like they've had to cultivate an X factor
and an essence about them as a way of like
charming for this perceived slight against them that a lot
(36:58):
of people haven't had too. That's why I always think that,
like a lot of Gingers are really charismatic because they
had to be, and they developed it at an early
age in the same way that a lot of comedians do.
Like whatever was not going well as a child, um
made you develop these like superpower uh ways of fucking
(37:20):
chit chatting to navigate that. Well. It's kind of like,
I mean, there's a lot of ginger actors, like actress,
there's like a billion that I read comes down to
kind of the fact of when you're a ginger sometimes
you have to lie and that's all acting really is.
(37:41):
Oh my god, dear On Wilson Exclusive right here, Wilson Exclusive.
Everybody please pay attention. That was just a bomb dropped
on this podne acting is lying in a lot of
(38:01):
redheads are actors, because a lot of redheads are fucking liars. Yeah.
I just want to apreciate these things. I'm not afraid
to say these things. Yeah, And like you know what,
every penny that we paid you to come on here
has been paid back in full. Bits. This is incredible,
(38:22):
Oprah superstil Sundays going to be my team on the zoom.
I have about six agents, six managers, six lawyers on
the zoom here. They're all nodding their heads. There's don't
say it, don't say it, but I'm saying it people, Yeah,
you're a true visionary artists. And they are all looking
at me in the eyes like please stop. That wasn't
in the list of approved questions. And I say no, no, no,
(38:46):
I get the truth. I get the truth out of
my guess. And I just want to thank you for
coming along sort of on that winding road with me,
that is the road less traveled. Oh my god, of course,
of course, Okay, yeah. So, according to Lucian in Uh,
(39:12):
Mandy toured with n Sync and the Backstreet Boys. If
you were one of the Backstreet Boys, what do you
think was going through your head when Mandy was touring
by your side in the year nine nine. I don't
know if you were even born yet then, but I was.
I was born in Okay, and I remember it clearly.
(39:38):
If I was a Backstreet Boy and Mandy Moore's on
tours me, I'd be thinking feminist thoughts. I'd be thinking,
what the fuck a girl can do? What it takes?
What we got took five guys to them, isn't that impressive? Wow?
Oh my god? And Grace, if you could just oh
(40:00):
the listeners which Backstreet Boys brain? Would that thought be
coming from? Blair? You know, I don't know them there?
And you know what I mean, I'll guests, sure, yes,
all right, don't tell me anything, and I want to talk.
We are we got Backstreet Boys and we got in Sync.
(40:22):
Somewhere is justin Timberlake, and somewhere is Lance Bass. That's
where fucking sure. If I've ever heard anything, it's been
sure of facts right now now. If I had to
place them, what sounds more night. What sounds right? Okay,
justin Timberlake. Okay, final answer justin Timberlake is Backstreet Boys
(40:46):
and sink Who's lamps bass? That is not the correct answer,
but we love it anyways, because what was that, folks?
That was heart and soul of the impoured alval new ability.
And that's how we approve of on the podcasts. That
is one question that's not on the i Q test.
For sure. I'm more. I'm more solving quadratic equations and
(41:08):
sure right, that's my level of smart in this culture ship.
Yeah no, I also love quadratic equations. Oh my god. Yeah,
I cannot get enough of those. Um okay. Well, during
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a late night appearance, according to Lucian, Mandy opened up
just about how Justin Timberlake scarred her for life by
telling her she had huge feet during their tour in Grace.
(41:49):
What did someone tell you that scarred you for life?
Much like our queen, Mandy, I have perfect story when
I was in fifth grade. First of all, shame on
Justin timber Like Shane, it's seriously, this guy's gotta go.
Yeah yeah, I mean some things were not great. Although
(42:10):
like teen boys historically don't have a great reputation for
being the most loving and cognizant of their words. Yeah,
but I want to see them. I think he needs
to write an apology for that. Yeah. I think he's
a note apology on his Instagram. Okay, I am you
(42:31):
heard it here first grad school instrument calling for Justin
Timberlake notes at manny Morphi apology. This is a call
to action, folks. Uh, if you can rally behind Grace
on this one, it would show great community, great support.
Please guys, please, I really need you. Okay. So my
(42:52):
story is when I was in fifth grade, I was
like pretty good at sports, and so one day I'm
playing a game of horse with some boys in my class. Horses,
you know the basketball one where if you make it
in if you miss, you like get a letter and
once you spell horse, I know it well. Also in
the movie Love in Basketball, Oh great, great cover, great cover,
(43:17):
you know what I mean, Like show poster of that
movie is excellent. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So we're playing knockout,
playing with like six boys or whatever kind of ladies,
man but opposite vibes, and basically I knock out, like
I beat this one guy. So he's out and his
(43:39):
name is Hugo b the last name. I won't say
his last name, but he knows who he is. He
knows who is And is that smart because I have
often said first and last names and forgot that anyone
can hear what I'm saying. You know what you're gonna
hear by It's deserved. Fifth grade. He gets knocked out.
(44:02):
He throws his ball. Not knocked out, I mean I
beat him and oh sure, sure, Oh my god, you
beat his ass, dust hit his ass. He throws the
ball and he goes, you're such a fat bit. Oh
oh my god. If that isn't just the summation embodiment
of toxic masculinity where they just absolutely turned their hate
(44:26):
and aggression towards any of their as a result of
their own failure, yep. Absolutely. And you know this guy,
he was like comment nerd. He was lucky to be
friends with the popular guys. I wish, I wish in
that moment I could have turned to him and said, well,
you're a skinny loser right. Instead, I did what you
(44:50):
know any for three girl would have done. I burst
into tears and I run to Senor Bravo and I
tell him, Hugo just called me a fat bitch. Good
for you. Hope that his ass fucking got kicked out
of school that little bit. Imagine I'm like, yeah, he
was taken out that day. He has been in jail. No,
I don't know really if he got reprimanded. But you know,
(45:12):
I wasn't there for vengeance. I was just you know,
to speak your truth. Yeah, you know, what's crazy because
like I have like a crazy muscular body just naturally,
like I was born like that. It came out like that,
with these quads and like arms and everything shoulders, all
(45:34):
of it. Baby is there and these little I got
called fat and like all sorts of things like as
a child, and what's crazy, I like, really wasn't even fat,
just Orange County, like you're the only value for children,
especially female children, was being a hot kid. I guess yeah, no,
(45:56):
I think I honestly agree because when I look at
I get photos of me like I was not. There
was like a few ages where I was fat, but
overall I really wasn't. But it was like growing up
in l A too. I can't says very Orange County
I would have been I would have never been called fat.
(46:16):
It's probably not true, but you know what I mean,
hopefully thinking, And that's why that's why I'm raising my
kids in Missouri. Oh dear, Yeah, I'm gonna go to
Oregon in the forest or something. I really feel like
I'm supposed to live in the forest and be like
a fucking weirdo and have weird kids, but um, I
do it is crazy like teaching re teaching yourself as
(46:39):
an adult, Like I'm especially for women. I'm just like,
my job is like my job on earth is not
to be desirable, Like that's not my purpose here on earth.
I can't believe we learned that so deeply as a kid,
like that it's so important for others to find you attractive,
and it enough like they never just tell you that's
(47:02):
not your fucking purpose. Who gives a ship what they
think about how you look? Like like, yeah, you know,
who's someone that I hate that I'll never be able
to meet. The first person to put on clothes. I
hate that person. I wish it would be so cool
to me if we were just like all fucking always nude,
(47:23):
like caveman, you know what I mean, no one ever
mented clothes. Yeah, but then every time you get up
from a chair, looked like a snail was on it.
That's actually very true. That's actually very true. But it
would be normal. Maybe it would even be sexy. But yeah,
you're right, but I don't know like all this clean
(47:43):
oh dad, um, Yeah, our chairs would need sanitation. But
you know what, that's okay. Maybe they'd have like a
paper on it, like the Dostard's office. Yeah. Yeah, you
could bring your own your own seat mat and at
the end of the day you wash your seat. Yeah,
and you have like crams you can draw there too.
Oh that would rock, That would rock. Yeah, I love
(48:03):
one restaurants, even at this young age. I'm at um
puts currents on the table because I really go to town.
I haven't been to I would say, I could say confidently,
I haven't been at a restaurant where they've shown me
the crowns and probably four years whoa great. Well, you know,
(48:24):
sometimes there's a secret password, so hit me up. It's
sort of like how sometimes people um post the bathroom
codes to chipotlets in New York City. Yeah, I know
the crams passwords at a lot of restaurants, you know.
And actually, now that I'm thinking about that, I'm a
huge liar, because rape for the pandemic, you are a ginger,
So I am a ginger. So of course I just
(48:44):
lied to you guys. But um I right before the pandemic,
I was working at a restaurant that had crawns. What
a restaurant was it? Or do you don't want to say?
Actually maybe I don't want to say. But it was
in Chicago, in River North and it is a healthy
restaurant and you should be able to figure it out
from there. Oh okay, the one healthy restaurant in Chicago. Well, no,
(49:07):
it's a chain. It's a chain. It's a healthy chain.
Well it's not fast it's not fast food or like
I'm trying to give everything away but with true and
then there's two words after that, true food daily. No,
but you're kind of closed. Oh Grace, Can I say
(49:28):
something that could be a little to controversial and you know, yeah,
Well I am the only one on podcast who was
a truth teller and in the landscape, and what I
had to say is that I don't think Deep Dish
pizza is good. I thought you were going to say
(49:50):
deep dea and then I was like, we're back to
deep tea. This rock No, But instead, I came out
with a lacerating, vicious hell statement. Yeah, well you know,
I'm obviously like up said from l A and so
you know I'm no no kind of feet in the
game or whatever that first, it doesn't matter too like
(50:13):
Deep Dish, Now, I agree. It's not like I wouldn't
order it, but it's fun to eat, but I would.
I just love finn crust pizza. Yes, you know. My
father is a famous Italian man who makes pizza from
scrash Neapolitan style, and the first time I went to Chicago,
(50:34):
he left me a voicemail saying, don't you dare eat
the Deep Dish. I'll know, but of course I did.
I tried it. And the thing is, pizza is my
number one favorite food. As I just want to kind
of expose these things to my listeners so they get
to have intimacy with their dear Yeah. Yeah, um, but
pizza and Mexican food, Um, even when they're bad, they're
(50:56):
still good. That's just the way it girls. Any type
of Nacho's, fake che Israel cheese, it's still good. Um.
Any type of pizza, frozen gas station anywhere, even when
it's very bad, it's still good. Yeah, but I will
say what I thought I was going to get you
because I sort of do just love throwing grenades on Twitter,
um and just upsetting the people by with my food takes. Uh.
(51:20):
I do feel all my friends, usually from Chicago, even
though they're not from there, they get enraged, um when
I sort of poked the nest with the deep dish thing. Yeah,
that's not me, you know, I have I have anger
about other things. Yeah, you know, like politics. Oh my god, politics,
(51:40):
that's crazy. Yeah, I would saying passionate sometimes pizza, I
don't really care. I'm with you on It's always good
and if I could eat it every fucking day, I
would stop me honestly. Yeah. Same here. But Grace, I
do have to bring this up because your grub Street profile.
(52:02):
I've been reading the grub street profiles um since I
was probably like, they're like my favorite thing because I'm
obsessed with knowing what people eat, and yours was so
fucking good. And also I was like for your for
your young stardom, like you have an incredible sophisticated palette
that is mixed with a lot of cooking at home
(52:24):
of sortm you know, artistic, delicious sounding things mixed with
a cool hip restaurant takeout. I was really impressed and entertained.
So if you're listening to this, checkout Grace's grub Street
uh food Diary, thank you so much. That means a lot.
I yeah, I looked I like to cook. The pandemic
(52:47):
made me a better cook and that's something cool. Was
that just out of boredom or was that an intention
like I'm going to use this time to sort of
up my skills, have a little fun. It wasn't intentional,
but nowadays is like now I'm like really trying to
I'm like I love to cook now. But it was
really just like when I was when the pandemic first started.
(53:08):
I mean like I remember, you know, one of the
first days for like the night before lockdown or some ship,
my roommate and I being like, I guess we gotta
get take out tonight. It's gonna be the last time
we're gonna have taken like COVID could be like food whoa, oh,
I know. There were so many I can't believe, like
all the crazy things that we believed, like over the
(53:30):
time period, and like just it was insanity and it's
just like some of you listeners didn't experience COVID, you're
not missing out. Oh yeah, don't feel bad if you
didn't experience COVID. That is certainly not our intention, Grace
and I. Some places didn't have it. I'm sure Britain
didn't have it to clean right right, Yeah, I don't
(53:52):
think No. France definitely didn't have COVID, and that's not
their fault, but they would miss out on a good
books experience. It's kind of like when all you're doing
is smoking SIGs and eating eating cheese. How do you
say cheese in French? Fromage fromage? When when that's all
you're doing there, you know, not COVID right when you
(54:14):
Josey's in some formage is hitting the heaters. The COVID
doesn't really come out around whoke, Grace, Oh my god,
you're a French scholar. Literally the only French word I
know is formage. I can't believe that came to my head.
It's just because I'm obsessive food. I'm so glad that
(54:35):
you did think of it. Otherwise there would have been
kind of a pause in the podcast. And everyone knows. Yeah,
as um Joe Rogan Speakert Arrival everybody knows that you
cannot have a pause on a podcast if you're a
motherfucking professional. Because actually people don't know that I got
paid two hundred and one million dollars for this one,
(54:58):
but that sort of under wraps between me and my listeners. Totally. No,
your podcast is cool. I mean, like you guys can't
see Blair, but she's like on she's literally like just
shipping on a golden toilet while she's doing the podcast.
No problem. I love to expel into my golden toilet
while I connectedly in a heart center places. Yeah. Yeah,
(55:22):
you get a little look inside their mansions that you
dear listeners paid for. Um. Wow, God, this interview has
been fireworks. But okay, I do have another question for you.
According to Lucien, in two thousands six, Mandy Moore talked
(55:43):
about her early albums, saying she would believed her debut
album So Real sucked and that her first two albums
were quote unquote just awful. More also said that she
would give a refund to everyone who bought her first
two albums if she could. During a radio interview into
(56:05):
April two thousand six, to show's co host, who had
seen More's comments asked her for a refund on her
debut album what she did Fulfill, which honestly is heartbreaking
for me to hear. On both sides, I did not
like this misogynist man who was typical of the media
towards young female pop stars in the early two thousand's.
(56:25):
If we can think about looking backwards now, Grace, if
you met Mandy, would you ask for a refund? No?
No fucking what? In fact, I give her. I give
her whatever her money I had in my pocket, hopefully
it's twenty. I would just give it to her. That
(56:46):
That is so funny to me though, Like that is
a really good quote. The fact that she would give
a refund. It wasn't that bad. I love that album.
In fact, the first like MP three player that I
ever got. I got it on a Christmas one year.
It wasn't it was not an iPod, but I don't
(57:07):
know what it was. It was like weird and it
could hold a hundred songs, but the only songs that
had on it were that album. Wow, that's a true
testament or some great remix. If anyone is interested, is
thinking after this podcast, I pint music, listen to the album.
There's some remixes on there or like on some deluxe
(57:29):
album album version of it, that are so good. I
know what I'm doing is and is this is over dancing.
I'm looking up those remixes from my friend gase. Um.
You guys are gonna love music. You guys, we're introducing
you to music and it's going to be a wild
ride from here. It really is. But you know, it
(57:52):
didn't make me sad to hear that, because, like I
have often struggled with this because I think it is
part of coming from a really conservative place where I
always I will have these moments of panic, less now
but more when I like I was coming up, and
it's less in the last few years. But thinking about
(58:14):
all the things I've said on podcasts and like things
that I did coming up, like jokes or like sketches
that I thought were funny. Where if you grow as
an artist you always think everything you do sucks when
you're younger, when you like, look at it, I mean
there's some things you still like. But like it makes
me sad because I want to just be like, it's
hard to put out an album as a teenager, Like
(58:36):
of course you're not going to think it's like mind
blowing when you're an adult, unless it's like fucking Nirvana
or Tupac or something. Well, I feel like Ums or
Who or Atlantis or tlc Um. I feel like every
musician would probably choose an album to kill, you know
(58:58):
what I mean, Like that's just how it is, right
or comedy, Like I feel it is the same thing.
I'm like, that was like such a dumb joke, like
I thought was incredible. You know what's different though, kind
of the opposite, you know how like now all these
like old famous You're not old, but you know, like
adult famous comedian like comedic geniuses who like have their
(59:21):
heyday in like the two thousand's and now they make
all these shitty movies and it's like you got there
doing the opposite. Well, I think that to me reads
less as intentional and more like I'm trying to survive financially.
Is it survive or is it like making making enough
(59:45):
money that I won't possibly be able to spend it
in my lifetime? Yeah? Goal too, That's a goal people have,
and I would loved. I plan on spending a lot
of time on the Amalfi Coast and Italy, eating my
extremely thin pee to getting fed all of us by
some man of the romance languages. So I mean I
(01:00:07):
might have to do some of those movies, and I'll
probably joyfully do them. But um yeah, I'm down to Yeah,
like we should Grace. I do feel and I think
that probably our listeners would agree that, um, we should
be doing a buddy comedy at some point without a doubt,
(01:00:29):
and we should film it in Hawaii. It definitely needs
to be in Hawaii. I don't think we will. That's
the only place that the mystery could be captured. That's
the only place it would make anything. No, there can
be no other location. And luckily, I do feel that
there are a lot of tax and financial advantages that
Hawaii tries to give the film industry, so it could
(01:00:50):
be good for us. Right, we should film it on
the exact same locations where they filmed lil instead. I
love stead, I love Lulu and Stitch. That is a
really good idea. Wow, I can't believe that's just turned
into luck an insane brainstorming session. This is how the
sausages mid folks. Okay, sometimes brilliance just comes naturally, It's
(01:01:15):
received from above. You don't even need to do anything. Yeah,
my agents and managers who are again on the zoom
with us, they just say me and okay, And they
showed me on a piece of paper that Blair and
are each making twenty five billion dollars for the movie.
And now one guy right there is signed just his
dollar signs. Yeah. Whoall chutching as they say, chutching boo yah, wow,
(01:01:45):
grace God. This interview is going to be one for
the ages, probably be replayed in schools years later. I
do have one more closing segment we like to close
our podcast sessions with, and that's called a fan on
the street, Tree Tree, And if you have any fun,
(01:02:19):
arousing interaction, uh story anecdote where you ran into a
fun celebrity experience you had and love to share with
our doating audience. I think I'm to mind. I try
and surround myself by normal people to keep myself grounded.
(01:02:41):
That's important. I run into celebrities, of course, but you know,
like nothing that's fun. But oh you know what, actually,
actually no, I don't want to say that. I feel
like I would get in trouble um moved the kind
you see I can tell you off there. I think
(01:03:03):
that would get me in trouble. But I just feel
like it would it would come back to me. Well,
you know, it is the witch wound where we always
will feel like we're about to get in trouble for
speaking our truth. Yeah, that's just us younger siblings. Yeah. Um,
I saw one time I saw Schmidt or no, not
Schmidt Nick from New Girl. He's so hot. Oh my god,
(01:03:27):
I'm in love with him. He's like such like a
sort of grimy like hot. Yeah, grimy frat guy hot.
I just watched. Yeah, okay, well maybe that's true. I
just saw him on the new show um minx out
on HBO Max. And you know what is I saw
(01:03:49):
a photo of him in that show, and he looks
so hot in the show. Yeah, because he plays like
a nasty, dirty guy, so sexy because I supported and
I would like want to kiss and he's one of them. Really,
that's so interesting to me. Um wait, so you saw him?
Where did you see him? I saw him in like
Silver Lake or like at Water, like somewhere around there,
(01:04:12):
and he was just walking down the street and we
made eye contact. We were watching. We were walking in
opposite direction, so we passed each other. We made eye contact,
and that was It was a gorgeous interaction where once
we passed, I thought to myself, that's Nick from New
Girl and that was it. We both went about our
days and you know, life went on, but my life
(01:04:36):
was better for it. Grace. Was he wearing flannel? No,
I think I think he was just wearing shorts and
a T shirt. Okay, because in my mind he was
wearing finnel. Did you have any stubble beard? He was
probably wearing a baseball And he was wearing sunglasses because
that's something famous people have to wear recognized everywhere. Right,
(01:04:57):
I do see a lot of our colleagues and could
tipperaries wearing sunglasses outside and invented sunglasses was so crazy
celebrities to go into grocery stores, Grace, that is why
they invented those. I am just so pleased, and I
just want to say all of the money that we
(01:05:19):
spent on you to come here was so worth it,
and I just want to thank you for being an
incredible guest today. I know everyone was floored it was.
I mean, yeah, I was. I impressed myself pretty much
on the daily though, so I wasn't shocked at all
of the amazing things that I said. But you're glad
(01:05:40):
I did. Sure glad I did, and I am too.
I'll second that one because this is a juggernaut in
an episode. That's what I'm telling you, folks. You're welcome.
This is uh, this is the big dog. Blair signing off,
Thank you, Grace, thank you. Have a great week. Everybody
(01:06:01):
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(01:05):
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on the Trevor Moore Show when I co hosted it
with Trevor and my dear friend Trevor rest in Peace
was such a fan of Grace. He was like, I
think she's the funniest person. I go on TikTok just
to watch her, and so I really like, sort of
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I feel like fell in love with Grace through him,
which is cool. I don't know if I told her that,
but yeah, I wish I did. If I didn't, I
will next time I see her. Um But this episode
is so so fun and I just think Grace is
a hilarious genius. So please enjoy, and yeah, follow me
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and welcome back to the Dear O and Wilson podcast
and your host, Blair Sucky. Podcasts are incredible what incredible medium,
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the devoted Blair Bears all across the globe. You guys
(03:02):
are Robbid. What would I do without you? Assure as
L would not be in my ten million dollar mansion
right now without all of your support and love. You guys,
do I have a show for you today? It is
so crazy. You wouldn't even believe the guests that I
have secured for you out of the goodness of my heart.
(03:24):
This person is another international superstar. You may have just
recently seen her on the hit HBO Maxhell Search Party. Incredible.
I'm so pleased. Please welcome my guests today. Cool hich
(03:55):
so good to be here, Grace, while what I get
for the podcast? Okay, I know that we had to
pay you an incredible sum of money to be here,
but nonetheless, I am so grateful that you made it.
Where At first I was like, no, some of money
(04:16):
could could get me to go on this podcast, But
then I thought about it, and I thought, you know you,
you look like you have a good heart, and it
could be good for me to do something good for
for other people for once. Oh my god, I love
that philanthropic energy. That's what the world needs more of.
Just a for sure s lilious, Did you have an aquarius? Baby?
(04:43):
Where are you ev the up people, the giving, the
receiving incredible, Well, Grace, I know what you know what
this podcast is about. It's based off a letter I
wrote to Owen Wilson in two thousand seven telling him
how much he loved him. You know, I have my
guests come on read letters to celebrities day love, and
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then I interview them shrewdly, more intensely than Mark Mayrin
ever could, and so without further ado, I would love
do now hear your letter? Okay, let's do it. Mm hmm.
Dear Mandy meaning Mandy More, I don't know. Yeah, I
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don't know what you're up to today, and I don't care.
I love you. I think you're in a television show
called This Is Us, but it could also be called
this is Life for us as life, that's not the point.
And you know that the highlight and peak of both
of our lives was when you released the music video
for Candy. You were so tall and blond, and it
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was awesome. I will never be taller, blonde, or even skinny,
but I'm trying to stay body positive. I thought I
had a crush on Land and Carter in A Walk
to Remember, but I didn't because I'm a lesbian. But
I also didn't have a crush on you and that day.
But I did have a crush on you in the
Princess Diaries, even though you were mean. My favorite thing
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about you is that you made me discover that blondes
are my type. But then you became a brunette and
I realized that all child are my type. That's it
the end. Oh my god, Wow, you know, talk on myself.
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Sometimes people come on here and the amount of emotion
poured into their letters is just bone chilling, and this
is one of those times. Definitely you can tell I
wrote this. I mean wow. So Mandy was so pivotal
(06:59):
for you, Hull Grace, huge for me, huge for me.
There's just she really is like also she's kind of
a like a kid ish star who turned out really well.
Yeah where where it came really a full circle because
you're worried about her. She had that stretch and like
apparently she was in that like not super great relationship
(07:22):
with that um acoustic finger man. Um. We won't even
say his name even though we know it. Um, we
won't even give him fucking airtime on my podcast by
a bye loser. Nobody knows your name, sweetie. Um, isn't
(07:45):
that sad, little baby? That's how I talked to him.
How aren't you so sad? You hurt? A beautiful girl,
so grace. I forget where you go up. But I
grew up in a very conservative place, and so when
I watched Mandy Moore at that time coming up, like
(08:09):
I was simultaneously attracted to her but also not realizing that,
like it was attraction but also like I wanted to
be her so bad, but also attraction. But I'm like,
how does someone be like a perfect person like that?
I don't know, but you know, she really has so
much range, like it actually is crazy. In just the
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span of a few years, she was like a walk
to remember, so, you know, religious sick girl to Princess Diary.
To Princess Diaries meant popularity. Yes, Also, did you ever
watch I was just gonna say Saved because I was
obsessed was Saved when it came out, Like I thought,
(08:55):
it was so genius and funny satire. Yeah, it was
so good. I honestly don't even remember the plot, but
I remember watching and being like I felt like too young,
and I was like, this is crazy that I'm watching
this because they're talking about drugs right right, and you're
a little goody goody. Um totally. I love Saved because
(09:18):
like anything, um, I just love like nasty ship and
I still love um. You know, all the ins and
outs of like religion and its effects on us. It's
so interesting to me as adults. But anyways, let's get
into the interview that everybody has been waiting for great now.
(09:39):
Some of these are hard hitting questions. I must remind
you that I do have my private investigator, Lucian Wiggles,
whom I pay to do all my research, and some
of these are his questions and I have nothing to
do with me, So just please keep that in mind. Yeah,
I didn't meet him in the Current River one day
when I was out there fishing. But okay, the first
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question I have for you Mandy Morris quoted as saying,
according to Lucian Wiggles, a smile is so sexy, yes,
so warm. When somebody smiles at you, it's the greatest
feeling in the world. Do you also agree that smiles
are sexy and warm. Why are why not? Yes, because
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they're the only place for those teeth. They're the only
place on the body where there's teeth. There are no
teeth anywhere else, and that it's something to be said
that is true. Teeth are so sexually attractive. Like Mandy
moris teeth. I remember looking at her teeth being like,
how's anywanna have teeth like that? They're so big, there's
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a white, there's so glacial mm hmm. And so that's
why she said that quote. You know, I would bet
I would bet that if she didn't have such a
sexy smile, she wouldn't have said that quote. Well, you're right,
I think you're typing. You're tapping into an emotional layer here. Okay, good,
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I like that answer, Grace. That was good, all right,
thank you. So. According to Lucian Wiggles, Mandy is quoted
as saying, I've gone skydiving twice. I was terrified of
doing it, but I wanted to overcome that. The first
time I did it with my parents, and I remember
they had already both jumped out and suddenly it was
(11:32):
my turn, and I thought, well, I don't want to
be an orphan, so I guess I have no choice,
and then I jumped out of the plane. Grace, do
you also fear imminent abandonment at all times that causes
you to feel forced to make life threatening choices? I do? Yeah,
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I guess. You know. I'm realizing, Mandy, I have so
much in common. We seem very compatible, even um well
for well, I would not. I don't think I'll ever
ghost skydiving, so I kind of can't understand that person, right,
But abandonment absolutely, I'm trying, you know, don't. I always
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think about the like people who turn a hundred and
the fact that they've seen every single person they know
basically die. Whoa. Yeah, that's a crazy direction to take this,
but so true, so rooted in truth. Yeah yeah, to
see everyone die around you, oh yeah, big time. Yeah.
(12:35):
And yeah just somehow just wake up another day and
want to eat your oatmeal, Yeah exactly, Yeah, drink your
drink your coffee with with milk without you know, you
know what, it's crazy, Grace. While I was reading that,
and I'm not a mother yet, but I will be.
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I cannot imagine jumping out of a plane with my
children's father before my child had gone later have a
good one. They were just like having so much fun.
They're like, finally, I wonder if he is. My guess
(13:18):
is that this happened? We don't know, But my guest,
do you know what year that quote is or that
year they sky? Lucian must have been really busy making
his uh loop around the vast pro shops this week
because he did not supply the years for these quotes,
(13:39):
which is unlike him. But yeah, kind of a could
have been drunk, that's true. He does like to have
a few spirits now and then you know, I wonder
like when are you going spa diving with your parents? Also, yeah,
what led to this moment? But I just think it's
so funny, like they're like, okay, see on the ground, Mandy. Yeah,
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they're like honeymoon yeah, and like their daughters so terrified,
and it's like, I don't think I want to do this,
but I also don't want to be an orphan. That
makes me think that there's something a little there. She's
weird for sure, I feel like I can tell just
by looking at her. But that kind of confirms that
(14:26):
I think she's weird. Yeah, look that she initially went
to Orphan. I think I would go to Orphan though,
I mean she was just like, I have no choice.
I actually, if I can be candid with you and
my followers, which I think is you know, all you
can hope for me as your host. Um. I went
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to these lake trips and I'm the youngest in my family,
and we would cliff jump, but I'm like severely afraid
of heights, and so it would always and I'm also
like the only girl my family, and so would be like,
let's go pussy and like a few times I got pushed,
but like I never wanted to go, but I was like,
I guess I just can't stay at the top of
the cliff when my whole family has gone down, right,
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I've definitely done that to Actually for me, it's like
when I've jumped off a cliff into like some sort
of body of water. It's not like the height that
freaks me out, because I don't think I'm scared of heights.
Like you know those things in New York where you
can go up to a building and go up to
the top floor and like the glass the floor is glass.
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That sounds fun to help for me, But it's the
jumping part. And I think it's because, like I'm, I
feel like I'm I haven't even had that many injuries,
but I feel like I'm prone to injuries, and I
avoid injuries by not doing things like jumping into a
body of water from a large height. Yeah. But I
would you say that you're paranoid or that's just like
(15:53):
your internal safety system guiding you out of harm's way. Mmm,
I don't know. I don't think paranoid is the right word.
Pussy kind of pussy honest. Yeah. Yeah, but maybe you
just like to feel good, you know, Like I'm one
of these Yeah, I like to feel safe too. I'm
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not one of these adrenaline junkie people. I think it's
because I did a lot of extreme sports as a
kid that like, I don't know if I necessarily liked.
I just felt like I had to do in order
to receive love from my family. Um, like all the
surfing and snowboarding and cliff diving and night snorkeling and stuff.
(16:34):
I was like, I don't think I really liked those things. Yeah,
I think I'm tired as an adult from them. Like
all I want to do is sit down I know,
well mean too. I Mean, my ideal evening is doing
is doing nothing, kind of kind of finding a new
reality TV show to watch for me. But like even
crossing the street, I'm like, of course, I live in
(16:55):
New York, anywhere I would live jaywalking. I do it
every single day. Yeah, but I'm not the type to
like rutten across to avoid a car, you know what
I mean. Like, I'm the type where, like my friends
will walk across the street at a red light and
I'm waiting for them all. Oh my god, I'm the
same as you, Grace. I'm the same as you, Grace.
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Why do you think that is? Are you the youngest?
Are you the youngest? Yes, I think it has something
to do with it being the youngest, because I saw
my brothers just continuously sustained like deep gnarly injuries from
like doing back flips and jumping off roofs and just
like all this dumb ship and so it always looked
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to me like, I don't know if I'm just like
my i Q is off the chart, but I'm gonna
stay I want to stay on the ground. No, that's
definitely only that's unn fact. Both of our i Q
are off the fucking charts. Yeah, it's so crazy that
we have met on a podcast together with all the
i Q combined between us. Yeah, it's unbelievable how we're
(17:59):
just we're just below Albertine's time. Yeah. Well, it's funny
that you bring up the crosswalk thing because I'm always
doing the same ship and I also have a thing
about me. You might be able to tell almost such
a chill dude, I don't like to rush. I don't either.
I'm always early. I was on this podcast three minutes
earlier too, so was I. I'm always early because I
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don't want to experience stress exactly. There's nothing that I like.
I'm pretty lucky. I don't feel like I experienced anxiety
on the daily. But if I do, it's because I'm
running late somewhere or something. Right, Yeah, I have you know,
after a lifetime riddled with anxiety depression, come to become
(18:42):
to a really low thank God, thank the Heaven's angels,
whoever is around us, um come to a low anxiety
place at this age, and it feels good. I'm not
trying to run in front of a car to make
it across the street. No, absolutely not, And I'm not
see it's like, it's not paranoia though, it's literally just
(19:02):
like why yeah, yeah, oh my god, I better uses
of my time, bitch. But also I feel, you know, Mandy,
I hope and I suspect that at this age, after
you know, all the iterations of herself that she has experienced,
she's probably not jumping out of a plane anymore, just
(19:24):
to not be an orphan. I hope, not. God, I
fucking hope not. Poor girl. So she became so successful though,
like at a late turn, and I am always so
happy for those people. M h me too. I mean
she's really the money is only going up. Yeah, that's
(19:44):
like the number one show on TV. My mom loves it. Yeah,
I watched them. I think I watched one episode of it.
It's so soapy. You know, really, you're not it's not
my thing? Really, what is your thing? Race? I love
reality TV? Like um, I mean I truly have been
(20:06):
watching The Bachelor for like I said, that was like,
oh really, so that's your thing in the Bachelor. Okay,
the Bachelor I love, like, um, the Challenge on MTV.
I love below that, right, I love any dating shows? Right?
Did you watch off as Blind? I did, Yeah, okay, great,
(20:28):
I seek it. Yeah, yeah, I hope Deep is doing okay.
What's up Deep? Deep? Me too? What's up Deep? Do you?
Thanks for listening? Thank you for being and I have
a listener of the Deal and Listening podcast deept hope
you have. I love baby absolutely incomfortable. Um okay, we
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do need to move on at this point into the
next question of the interview. If that's okay with you guys,
It's okay with me. Yea. I am enjoying how much
I am learning about you though. Wow, this is a
(21:10):
good time. Um okay. So Mandy, according to Lucian Wickaus,
said it feels important to go to school, not necessarily
to further my education, but more like just for a hobby.
Do you, also, Grace, feel that we should make education
(21:31):
optional in this country? And be careful what you say
was your answer, because there is a thing called Twitter
these days. Grace, I really think it should be optional.
I mean, but I don't care like like I mean
to be fair. In hindsight, we're comedians. So school for
(21:52):
us basically was a you know what I mean? None
of my classes led to this right, college specifically like
college literally the comedy I was doing. There wasn't extra curricular.
So if that if my extra curricular listen up, and
my extra curricular has now become my career, then all
(22:15):
of my schooling was actually my extra curricular. Whow the
sound of my brain exploding because the seatbelt on. Whoa,
Oh my god, that my crush says to me, because
I just got flown against the wall. Grace, Grace, big
(22:40):
dropping truth bombs on my audience globally. Yeah, you're gonna
see me. You're gonna see me doing the graduation speeches
at ivy leagues and just saying that one sentence. You're joking,
but I think that actually will happen, and I'm gonna laugh.
We are going to have a laugh together when you
make a commencement speech at an IVY league school. Um,
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I am surprisingly. I don't know if you could guess this,
but I actually really love school. And I have a
master's degree in what creative writing, which is basically like um,
going to a place to light money on fire. But
I didn't read a lot and meet a lot of
(23:25):
really cool people. I did think I wanted to become
a novelist, and but I started comedy at the same time,
and then I was like, oh um, this is much faster.
Oh definitely, that's so interesting. Yeah, you should have it
up on your wall. You know how in doctor's offices
they have their degrees on the wall. That's fucking hilarious.
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I don't even know where my degree is. I guess
I could call them and ask for one. I don't
even think I have my undergraduate degree. But anyway, the
funny thing is like, if you're a smart comedian, you
know you knew when you were young, Like I didn't
know at all. Like I've never even seen a comedy
show till it's twenty five. Never in my life. You
(24:07):
didn't even watch the clevene Is. I wasn't exposed to
any of it. I grew up in Orange County, which
is just not a place of the arts. Like I
wasn't really exposed to very much culture. My whole life
was sports interesting, and it's not really like no one
knows anything about like arts are down there. Yeah. I
(24:28):
know he's in a really non condescending way. I don't
mean that to sound condescending, because you know there is
value there. But yeah, and there's some Orange County listeners.
I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, there's just it's just different
values of other things are important. But anyways, we must
move on. Um, I know you do. Okay. She doesn't
(24:50):
think education should be optional in this country. So Hillary Clinton,
if you're listening, um, please don't kill my friend. Okay.
So um. According to listen Wi Gles, Mandy has said
love is like nothing else on this earth, but only
when it is shared. Was someone wonderful like you who Grace?
(25:16):
If you had to guess anyone in the world, maybe
you need to tap into your clair voyage right now?
Do you think Mandy was saying this about Oh my God?
Where it was caught on audio? Yeah? You know. Okay,
let's see what what other show has Mandy been in
(25:40):
besides this is Us, Like, I'm not sure I should
be any other long Storm shows because I would like
to think she said this too a co star perhaps
perhaps her does she have a husband now, I think so.
I hope she has a really hot husband. That's really nice, sir.
(26:01):
She Maybe she said it to him while she was
giving an acceptance speech ocar, Oh my god, I would
love that. I would love if that were happening. You know,
I do have to say because I do have an
incredible intuition. Back when she was marrying he who should
(26:22):
not be named, I was worried. I was worried because
I was like, he seems like a moody little bit
who's really running through a lot of nice women, and
they seem like they've gone through the washer machine after him.
You know, yeah, you know, Okay, this Actually I think
what I'm about to say is genius. Of course, it
is like so many sentences that I've said today, But
(26:45):
um uh Manny Moore gives me similar like Jennifer Garner
vibes like they're they're good girl. Energetically, I can tell
that they are a bit hard to date, just in
terms of like they are very good two shoes, but
they can't be with the bad boy. It just doesn't work,
you know what I mean, The bad boy is too
(27:06):
bad for them. While I'm just experiencing this profound truth,
because I do also relate actually, um now putting myself
with Jennifer Garner and many more, because I am too.
I cannot date the bad boy anymore anymore. Oh my god,
(27:30):
would you cause about yourself as the Mandy Moore or
the bad boy? Whoa and please do be honest, because
it is a Wednesday in March. I honestly don't think.
I think there's three types of people in this world,
the more, the bad boy, and the lesbian. And I
think I'm a lesbian. Oh so what then? What a lesbian?
(27:54):
The hybrid like a bad boy and a goody goodie. Well,
I'm like, I don't think I could be the bad boy.
I'm definitely not the goody two shoes, right, but I
do love to follow the rules. Um yeah, it's just spiritually.
There are some bad boy trades about me, but only
(28:16):
in like the things I like, the crazy like I
like to my alternative artists lifestyle. But really I feel
I have the goody good e uh values of the heart,
you know. I want the sweetness, the tenderness, the loyalty,
the honesty. Well, I'm I'm a person in relationship. I
(28:40):
say I love you, um upwards of fifteen times today. Yeah,
I'm like that too. I love that I've always Yeah
that sounds really really good. Right. Okay, So Mandy Moore
just got married. According to Lucian wiggles Um, Mandy joe
Us was married, that's just in to a man named
(29:03):
Taylor Goldsmith. Um, so he looks cute. I looked him up. Yeah,
it's nice. I hope this is her, um happy ending
musician again though. And here's what I'll tell you, friend.
I had a friend in college. I'm telling you right now,
okayend in college who dated a musician and they were
(29:27):
very in love maybe sophomore year, and then they broke up.
And then junior year he was like pretty talented. He
has an amazing singing voice, and people really liked him
on campus. And the junior year, you know, he sang
all of the songs that he wrote about her still
because those were his songs. And I remember being in
the back of this concert. I'm thinking to myself, I
will I shall never date a musician because I was
(29:51):
like experiencing heartbreak just knowing that these like there's a
song about their love. Wow. Yeah, I that's so true. God, Wow,
you have a heart of an angel. I'm incredibly empathetic you.
Oh my god, an EmPATH like you is just a diamond.
(30:15):
Not I know, my listeners are going absolutely wild. You're
losing their motherfucking minds rightfully, so so am I. Yeah,
you know I feel the same. I like I will
be not going through a breakup, and then I'll hear
(30:35):
a song about a breakup and I'll just be like,
oh my god, the pain is so the love that
was lost is just so deep. It's crazy. I found
this song the other day that is so good, and
I was listening it's about like I think it's about
someone cheating on them from what I can tell being
(30:56):
an EmPATH. Sure, And I was literally thinking in relationship
dating someone that I'm positive would never cheat on me.
I remember like putting myself and being like what if,
what if this is how it would feel? This song
is perfect and being like, wow, the song does such
a good job. Yeah. It just means you can really
tap into the feelings of others. It's just an incredible
(31:18):
trade of a high i Q person. Um Grace, I
am amazed at your capacity for such a young person
to just be in a very healthy, deep committed relationships
so early on in your life. That's very good. And
how long have you been together? Yeah, you know, that's
(31:40):
that's that's confusing because we did break up for one
year at one point. If you go start to finish,
it's about six years. Holy sh it, that's no joke.
That sounds like to love and college sweethearts. Wow, I
love that, even though you said that educate Shian is disposable. Um, okay,
(32:03):
we do need to move on. Um. According to Lucian
Wiggles research, uh Mandy is quoted as saying, my hair
is naturally dirty, dishwater light brown. It's ugly. Now, Grace,
what color hair do you think is most ugly? Um?
(32:27):
I mean, and I am sorry for the hard hitting
nature of these questions, but I have a fiduciary commitment
to my audience. I'm gonna need everyone to pull over
right now if you're driving, because I I am gonna
hurt a lot of people's feelings here and for me,
(32:48):
the ugly hard. But the least I'm thinking good is
the redhead and I'm part of it. I'm part of it. Whoa.
So it's so there is a little bit of self
abusive ginger happening. Sometimes people blare with such high i
(33:08):
q s and hate themselves. It's just to me. I mean,
maybe if you I just always wanted to be blonde
my whole life, right because also like growing up by
the beach too, It's like, where'd you call it? I
grew up in l A very close to you really,
which part the palisade? Gorgeous, orgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous and nice
(33:34):
no matter how many literal surf camps you take, because
I took a bunch of them, my hair never turned
blond and I still have bad at surfing. Yeah. Wow,
oh my god, we have so much in common. Um,
that's incredible. God. You know, it's funny that you say
(33:57):
that about gingers because I famously, Um, I'm really attracted
to redheaded people, mostly date redheaded people. No, No, I
wouldn't say have mostly dated redheaded people be hard because
they're you know, there's not aren't that many of them? Yeah? Yeah,
but what I I don't think anyone could have a
(34:19):
through line of the could find a through line with
the people through the looks of the people that I've dated.
They could not find any patterns, even the most skilled really,
even the most skilled researcher. That's hilarious. Good for you
(34:41):
for kind of going to the ends of the earth
to find new boys every time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the
thing is, like I grew up, Uh, the first two
thirds of my life were only around like one type
of people, just like extremely masculine sports guy. And then
(35:03):
I got into the arts, and it's like, um, nerd
guy who is nerd in high school? Who talks really
well now, you know. And what we were saying about
the musicians the comedians, because you know, I've mostly only
dated comedians, um in the last chunk of my life,
because that's the only men that I'm around. Um No,
(35:26):
I've retired from that. Uh. Ultimately, I found my life
forced to be too depleted, and I decided that I
would like someone else to be the one with their
feet to the ground in the relationship. The moral of
the story is, I do find some redheads just like
so attractive, like, um, what's his name? Damian Lewis from Homeland?
(35:52):
From Homeland and a billion Dexter? What about dexter Michael C. Haw?
You classify him as a ginger. He's a ginge in
the same way that you're a ginge. It's like a
green nugent. Yeah, just a hint, just a little, just
a pinch of ginge. Yeah. But you know what, it's
(36:13):
what I must say. It's like, it's just that I
think blondes they're they're lucky to me, because I wish
I was wrong and brunettes. You're the default. So it's
kind of like, you know what I mean, You're you're
totally you're on the right path, and Ginger's it's just
it's just random. It's random. It's really what comes down to, Yeah,
(36:35):
I think I like a little random. The thing that
the essence what I've always said, and I'm not even
joking about Ginger's I've said this since I was a child,
is that like they've had to cultivate an X factor
and an essence about them as a way of like
charming for this perceived slight against them that a lot
(36:58):
of people haven't had too. That's why I always think that,
like a lot of Gingers are really charismatic because they
had to be, and they developed it at an early
age in the same way that a lot of comedians do.
Like whatever was not going well as a child, um
made you develop these like superpower uh ways of fucking
(37:20):
chit chatting to navigate that. Well. It's kind of like,
I mean, there's a lot of ginger actors, like actress,
there's like a billion that I read comes down to
kind of the fact of when you're a ginger sometimes
you have to lie and that's all acting really is.
(37:41):
Oh my god, dear On Wilson Exclusive right here, Wilson Exclusive.
Everybody please pay attention. That was just a bomb dropped
on this podne acting is lying in a lot of
(38:01):
redheads are actors, because a lot of redheads are fucking liars. Yeah.
I just want to apreciate these things. I'm not afraid
to say these things. Yeah, And like you know what,
every penny that we paid you to come on here
has been paid back in full. Bits. This is incredible,
(38:22):
Oprah superstil Sundays going to be my team on the zoom.
I have about six agents, six managers, six lawyers on
the zoom here. They're all nodding their heads. There's don't
say it, don't say it, but I'm saying it people, Yeah,
you're a true visionary artists. And they are all looking
at me in the eyes like please stop. That wasn't
in the list of approved questions. And I say no, no, no,
(38:46):
I get the truth. I get the truth out of
my guess. And I just want to thank you for
coming along sort of on that winding road with me,
that is the road less traveled. Oh my god, of course,
of course, Okay, yeah. So, according to Lucian in Uh,
(39:12):
Mandy toured with n Sync and the Backstreet Boys. If
you were one of the Backstreet Boys, what do you
think was going through your head when Mandy was touring
by your side in the year nine nine. I don't
know if you were even born yet then, but I was.
I was born in Okay, and I remember it clearly.
(39:38):
If I was a Backstreet Boy and Mandy Moore's on
tours me, I'd be thinking feminist thoughts. I'd be thinking,
what the fuck a girl can do? What it takes?
What we got took five guys to them, isn't that impressive? Wow?
Oh my god? And Grace, if you could just oh
(40:00):
the listeners which Backstreet Boys brain? Would that thought be
coming from? Blair? You know, I don't know them there?
And you know what I mean, I'll guests, sure, yes,
all right, don't tell me anything, and I want to talk.
We are we got Backstreet Boys and we got in Sync.
(40:22):
Somewhere is justin Timberlake, and somewhere is Lance Bass. That's
where fucking sure. If I've ever heard anything, it's been
sure of facts right now now. If I had to
place them, what sounds more night. What sounds right? Okay,
justin Timberlake. Okay, final answer justin Timberlake is Backstreet Boys
(40:46):
and sink Who's lamps bass? That is not the correct answer,
but we love it anyways, because what was that, folks?
That was heart and soul of the impoured alval new ability.
And that's how we approve of on the podcasts. That
is one question that's not on the i Q test.
For sure. I'm more. I'm more solving quadratic equations and
(41:08):
sure right, that's my level of smart in this culture ship.
Yeah no, I also love quadratic equations. Oh my god. Yeah,
I cannot get enough of those. Um okay. Well, during
(41:29):
a late night appearance, according to Lucian, Mandy opened up
just about how Justin Timberlake scarred her for life by
telling her she had huge feet during their tour in Grace.
(41:49):
What did someone tell you that scarred you for life?
Much like our queen, Mandy, I have perfect story when
I was in fifth grade. First of all, shame on
Justin timber Like Shane, it's seriously, this guy's gotta go.
Yeah yeah, I mean some things were not great. Although
(42:10):
like teen boys historically don't have a great reputation for
being the most loving and cognizant of their words. Yeah,
but I want to see them. I think he needs
to write an apology for that. Yeah. I think he's
a note apology on his Instagram. Okay, I am you
(42:31):
heard it here first grad school instrument calling for Justin
Timberlake notes at manny Morphi apology. This is a call
to action, folks. Uh, if you can rally behind Grace
on this one, it would show great community, great support.
Please guys, please, I really need you. Okay. So my
(42:52):
story is when I was in fifth grade, I was
like pretty good at sports, and so one day I'm
playing a game of horse with some boys in my class. Horses,
you know the basketball one where if you make it
in if you miss, you like get a letter and
once you spell horse, I know it well. Also in
the movie Love in Basketball, Oh great, great cover, great cover,
(43:17):
you know what I mean, Like show poster of that
movie is excellent. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So we're playing knockout,
playing with like six boys or whatever kind of ladies,
man but opposite vibes, and basically I knock out, like
I beat this one guy. So he's out and his
(43:39):
name is Hugo b the last name. I won't say
his last name, but he knows who he is. He
knows who is And is that smart because I have
often said first and last names and forgot that anyone
can hear what I'm saying. You know what you're gonna
hear by It's deserved. Fifth grade. He gets knocked out.
(44:02):
He throws his ball. Not knocked out, I mean I
beat him and oh sure, sure, Oh my god, you
beat his ass, dust hit his ass. He throws the
ball and he goes, you're such a fat bit. Oh
oh my god. If that isn't just the summation embodiment
of toxic masculinity where they just absolutely turned their hate
(44:26):
and aggression towards any of their as a result of
their own failure, yep. Absolutely. And you know this guy,
he was like comment nerd. He was lucky to be
friends with the popular guys. I wish, I wish in
that moment I could have turned to him and said, well,
you're a skinny loser right. Instead, I did what you
(44:50):
know any for three girl would have done. I burst
into tears and I run to Senor Bravo and I
tell him, Hugo just called me a fat bitch. Good
for you. Hope that his ass fucking got kicked out
of school that little bit. Imagine I'm like, yeah, he
was taken out that day. He has been in jail. No,
I don't know really if he got reprimanded. But you know,
(45:12):
I wasn't there for vengeance. I was just you know,
to speak your truth. Yeah, you know, what's crazy because
like I have like a crazy muscular body just naturally,
like I was born like that. It came out like that,
with these quads and like arms and everything shoulders, all
(45:34):
of it. Baby is there and these little I got
called fat and like all sorts of things like as
a child, and what's crazy, I like, really wasn't even fat,
just Orange County, like you're the only value for children,
especially female children, was being a hot kid. I guess yeah, no,
(45:56):
I think I honestly agree because when I look at
I get photos of me like I was not. There
was like a few ages where I was fat, but
overall I really wasn't. But it was like growing up
in l A too. I can't says very Orange County
I would have been I would have never been called fat.
(46:16):
It's probably not true, but you know what I mean,
hopefully thinking, And that's why that's why I'm raising my
kids in Missouri. Oh dear, Yeah, I'm gonna go to
Oregon in the forest or something. I really feel like
I'm supposed to live in the forest and be like
a fucking weirdo and have weird kids, but um, I
do it is crazy like teaching re teaching yourself as
(46:39):
an adult, Like I'm especially for women. I'm just like,
my job is like my job on earth is not
to be desirable, Like that's not my purpose here on earth.
I can't believe we learned that so deeply as a kid,
like that it's so important for others to find you attractive,
and it enough like they never just tell you that's
(47:02):
not your fucking purpose. Who gives a ship what they
think about how you look? Like like, yeah, you know,
who's someone that I hate that I'll never be able
to meet. The first person to put on clothes. I
hate that person. I wish it would be so cool
to me if we were just like all fucking always nude,
(47:23):
like caveman, you know what I mean, no one ever
mented clothes. Yeah, but then every time you get up
from a chair, looked like a snail was on it.
That's actually very true. That's actually very true. But it
would be normal. Maybe it would even be sexy. But yeah,
you're right, but I don't know like all this clean
(47:43):
oh dad, um, Yeah, our chairs would need sanitation. But
you know what, that's okay. Maybe they'd have like a
paper on it, like the Dostard's office. Yeah. Yeah, you
could bring your own your own seat mat and at
the end of the day you wash your seat. Yeah,
and you have like crams you can draw there too.
Oh that would rock, That would rock. Yeah, I love
(48:03):
one restaurants, even at this young age. I'm at um
puts currents on the table because I really go to town.
I haven't been to I would say, I could say confidently,
I haven't been at a restaurant where they've shown me
the crowns and probably four years whoa great. Well, you know,
(48:24):
sometimes there's a secret password, so hit me up. It's
sort of like how sometimes people um post the bathroom
codes to chipotlets in New York City. Yeah, I know
the crams passwords at a lot of restaurants, you know.
And actually, now that I'm thinking about that, I'm a
huge liar, because rape for the pandemic, you are a ginger,
So I am a ginger. So of course I just
(48:44):
lied to you guys. But um I right before the pandemic,
I was working at a restaurant that had crawns. What
a restaurant was it? Or do you don't want to say?
Actually maybe I don't want to say. But it was
in Chicago, in River North and it is a healthy
restaurant and you should be able to figure it out
from there. Oh okay, the one healthy restaurant in Chicago. Well, no,
(49:07):
it's a chain. It's a chain. It's a healthy chain.
Well it's not fast it's not fast food or like
I'm trying to give everything away but with true and
then there's two words after that, true food daily. No,
but you're kind of closed. Oh Grace, Can I say
(49:28):
something that could be a little to controversial and you know, yeah,
Well I am the only one on podcast who was
a truth teller and in the landscape, and what I
had to say is that I don't think Deep Dish
pizza is good. I thought you were going to say
(49:50):
deep dea and then I was like, we're back to
deep tea. This rock No, But instead, I came out
with a lacerating, vicious hell statement. Yeah, well you know,
I'm obviously like up said from l A and so
you know I'm no no kind of feet in the
game or whatever that first, it doesn't matter too like
(50:13):
Deep Dish, Now, I agree. It's not like I wouldn't
order it, but it's fun to eat, but I would.
I just love finn crust pizza. Yes, you know. My
father is a famous Italian man who makes pizza from
scrash Neapolitan style, and the first time I went to Chicago,
(50:34):
he left me a voicemail saying, don't you dare eat
the Deep Dish. I'll know, but of course I did.
I tried it. And the thing is, pizza is my
number one favorite food. As I just want to kind
of expose these things to my listeners so they get
to have intimacy with their dear Yeah. Yeah, um, but
pizza and Mexican food, Um, even when they're bad, they're
(50:56):
still good. That's just the way it girls. Any type
of Nacho's, fake che Israel cheese, it's still good. Um.
Any type of pizza, frozen gas station anywhere, even when
it's very bad, it's still good. Yeah, but I will
say what I thought I was going to get you
because I sort of do just love throwing grenades on Twitter,
um and just upsetting the people by with my food takes. Uh.
(51:20):
I do feel all my friends, usually from Chicago, even
though they're not from there, they get enraged, um when
I sort of poked the nest with the deep dish thing. Yeah,
that's not me, you know, I have I have anger
about other things. Yeah, you know, like politics. Oh my god, politics,
(51:40):
that's crazy. Yeah, I would saying passionate sometimes pizza, I
don't really care. I'm with you on It's always good
and if I could eat it every fucking day, I
would stop me honestly. Yeah. Same here. But Grace, I
do have to bring this up because your grub Street profile.
(52:02):
I've been reading the grub street profiles um since I
was probably like, they're like my favorite thing because I'm
obsessed with knowing what people eat, and yours was so
fucking good. And also I was like for your for
your young stardom, like you have an incredible sophisticated palette
that is mixed with a lot of cooking at home
(52:24):
of sortm you know, artistic, delicious sounding things mixed with
a cool hip restaurant takeout. I was really impressed and entertained.
So if you're listening to this, checkout Grace's grub Street
uh food Diary, thank you so much. That means a lot.
I yeah, I looked I like to cook. The pandemic
(52:47):
made me a better cook and that's something cool. Was
that just out of boredom or was that an intention
like I'm going to use this time to sort of
up my skills, have a little fun. It wasn't intentional,
but nowadays is like now I'm like really trying to
I'm like I love to cook now. But it was
really just like when I was when the pandemic first started.
(53:08):
I mean like I remember, you know, one of the
first days for like the night before lockdown or some ship,
my roommate and I being like, I guess we gotta
get take out tonight. It's gonna be the last time
we're gonna have taken like COVID could be like food whoa, oh,
I know. There were so many I can't believe, like
all the crazy things that we believed, like over the
(53:30):
time period, and like just it was insanity and it's
just like some of you listeners didn't experience COVID, you're
not missing out. Oh yeah, don't feel bad if you
didn't experience COVID. That is certainly not our intention, Grace
and I. Some places didn't have it. I'm sure Britain
didn't have it to clean right right, Yeah, I don't
(53:52):
think No. France definitely didn't have COVID, and that's not
their fault, but they would miss out on a good
books experience. It's kind of like when all you're doing
is smoking SIGs and eating eating cheese. How do you
say cheese in French? Fromage fromage? When when that's all
you're doing there, you know, not COVID right when you
(54:14):
Josey's in some formage is hitting the heaters. The COVID
doesn't really come out around whoke, Grace, Oh my god,
you're a French scholar. Literally the only French word I
know is formage. I can't believe that came to my head.
It's just because I'm obsessive food. I'm so glad that
(54:35):
you did think of it. Otherwise there would have been
kind of a pause in the podcast. And everyone knows. Yeah,
as um Joe Rogan Speakert Arrival everybody knows that you
cannot have a pause on a podcast if you're a
motherfucking professional. Because actually people don't know that I got
paid two hundred and one million dollars for this one,
(54:58):
but that sort of under wraps between me and my listeners. Totally. No,
your podcast is cool. I mean, like you guys can't
see Blair, but she's like on she's literally like just
shipping on a golden toilet while she's doing the podcast.
No problem. I love to expel into my golden toilet
while I connectedly in a heart center places. Yeah. Yeah,
(55:22):
you get a little look inside their mansions that you
dear listeners paid for. Um. Wow, God, this interview has
been fireworks. But okay, I do have another question for you.
According to Lucien, in two thousands six, Mandy Moore talked
(55:43):
about her early albums, saying she would believed her debut
album So Real sucked and that her first two albums
were quote unquote just awful. More also said that she
would give a refund to everyone who bought her first
two albums if she could. During a radio interview into
(56:05):
April two thousand six, to show's co host, who had
seen More's comments asked her for a refund on her
debut album what she did Fulfill, which honestly is heartbreaking
for me to hear. On both sides, I did not
like this misogynist man who was typical of the media
towards young female pop stars in the early two thousand's.
(56:25):
If we can think about looking backwards now, Grace, if
you met Mandy, would you ask for a refund? No?
No fucking what? In fact, I give her. I give
her whatever her money I had in my pocket, hopefully
it's twenty. I would just give it to her. That
(56:46):
That is so funny to me though, Like that is
a really good quote. The fact that she would give
a refund. It wasn't that bad. I love that album.
In fact, the first like MP three player that I
ever got. I got it on a Christmas one year.
It wasn't it was not an iPod, but I don't
(57:07):
know what it was. It was like weird and it
could hold a hundred songs, but the only songs that
had on it were that album. Wow, that's a true
testament or some great remix. If anyone is interested, is
thinking after this podcast, I pint music, listen to the album.
There's some remixes on there or like on some deluxe
(57:29):
album album version of it, that are so good. I
know what I'm doing is and is this is over dancing.
I'm looking up those remixes from my friend gase. Um.
You guys are gonna love music. You guys, we're introducing
you to music and it's going to be a wild
ride from here. It really is. But you know, it
(57:52):
didn't make me sad to hear that, because, like I
have often struggled with this because I think it is
part of coming from a really conservative place where I
always I will have these moments of panic, less now
but more when I like I was coming up, and
it's less in the last few years. But thinking about
(58:14):
all the things I've said on podcasts and like things
that I did coming up, like jokes or like sketches
that I thought were funny. Where if you grow as
an artist you always think everything you do sucks when
you're younger, when you like, look at it, I mean
there's some things you still like. But like it makes
me sad because I want to just be like, it's
hard to put out an album as a teenager, Like
(58:36):
of course you're not going to think it's like mind
blowing when you're an adult, unless it's like fucking Nirvana
or Tupac or something. Well, I feel like Ums or
Who or Atlantis or tlc Um. I feel like every
musician would probably choose an album to kill, you know
(58:58):
what I mean, Like that's just how it is, right
or comedy, Like I feel it is the same thing.
I'm like, that was like such a dumb joke, like
I thought was incredible. You know what's different though, kind
of the opposite, you know how like now all these
like old famous You're not old, but you know, like
adult famous comedian like comedic geniuses who like have their
(59:21):
heyday in like the two thousand's and now they make
all these shitty movies and it's like you got there
doing the opposite. Well, I think that to me reads
less as intentional and more like I'm trying to survive financially.
Is it survive or is it like making making enough
(59:45):
money that I won't possibly be able to spend it
in my lifetime? Yeah? Goal too, That's a goal people have,
and I would loved. I plan on spending a lot
of time on the Amalfi Coast and Italy, eating my
extremely thin pee to getting fed all of us by
some man of the romance languages. So I mean I
(01:00:07):
might have to do some of those movies, and I'll
probably joyfully do them. But um yeah, I'm down to Yeah,
like we should Grace. I do feel and I think
that probably our listeners would agree that, um, we should
be doing a buddy comedy at some point without a doubt,
(01:00:29):
and we should film it in Hawaii. It definitely needs
to be in Hawaii. I don't think we will. That's
the only place that the mystery could be captured. That's
the only place it would make anything. No, there can
be no other location. And luckily, I do feel that
there are a lot of tax and financial advantages that
Hawaii tries to give the film industry, so it could
(01:00:50):
be good for us. Right, we should film it on
the exact same locations where they filmed lil instead. I
love stead, I love Lulu and Stitch. That is a
really good idea. Wow, I can't believe that's just turned
into luck an insane brainstorming session. This is how the
sausages mid folks. Okay, sometimes brilliance just comes naturally, It's
(01:01:15):
received from above. You don't even need to do anything. Yeah,
my agents and managers who are again on the zoom
with us, they just say me and okay, And they
showed me on a piece of paper that Blair and
are each making twenty five billion dollars for the movie.
And now one guy right there is signed just his
dollar signs. Yeah. Whoall chutching as they say, chutching boo yah, wow,
(01:01:45):
grace God. This interview is going to be one for
the ages, probably be replayed in schools years later. I
do have one more closing segment we like to close
our podcast sessions with, and that's called a fan on
the street, Tree Tree, And if you have any fun,
(01:02:19):
arousing interaction, uh story anecdote where you ran into a
fun celebrity experience you had and love to share with
our doating audience. I think I'm to mind. I try
and surround myself by normal people to keep myself grounded.
(01:02:41):
That's important. I run into celebrities, of course, but you know,
like nothing that's fun. But oh you know what, actually,
actually no, I don't want to say that. I feel
like I would get in trouble um moved the kind
you see I can tell you off there. I think
(01:03:03):
that would get me in trouble. But I just feel
like it would it would come back to me. Well,
you know, it is the witch wound where we always
will feel like we're about to get in trouble for
speaking our truth. Yeah, that's just us younger siblings. Yeah. Um,
I saw one time I saw Schmidt or no, not
Schmidt Nick from New Girl. He's so hot. Oh my god,
(01:03:27):
I'm in love with him. He's like such like a
sort of grimy like hot. Yeah, grimy frat guy hot.
I just watched. Yeah, okay, well maybe that's true. I
just saw him on the new show um minx out
on HBO Max. And you know what is I saw
(01:03:49):
a photo of him in that show, and he looks
so hot in the show. Yeah, because he plays like
a nasty, dirty guy, so sexy because I supported and
I would like want to kiss and he's one of them. Really,
that's so interesting to me. Um wait, so you saw him?
Where did you see him? I saw him in like
Silver Lake or like at Water, like somewhere around there,
(01:04:12):
and he was just walking down the street and we
made eye contact. We were watching. We were walking in
opposite direction, so we passed each other. We made eye contact,
and that was It was a gorgeous interaction where once
we passed, I thought to myself, that's Nick from New
Girl and that was it. We both went about our
days and you know, life went on, but my life
(01:04:36):
was better for it. Grace. Was he wearing flannel? No,
I think I think he was just wearing shorts and
a T shirt. Okay, because in my mind he was
wearing finnel. Did you have any stubble beard? He was
probably wearing a baseball And he was wearing sunglasses because
that's something famous people have to wear recognized everywhere. Right,
(01:04:57):
I do see a lot of our colleagues and could
tipperaries wearing sunglasses outside and invented sunglasses was so crazy
celebrities to go into grocery stores, Grace, that is why
they invented those. I am just so pleased, and I
just want to say all of the money that we
(01:05:19):
spent on you to come here was so worth it,
and I just want to thank you for being an
incredible guest today. I know everyone was floored it was.
I mean, yeah, I was. I impressed myself pretty much
on the daily though, so I wasn't shocked at all
of the amazing things that I said. But you're glad
(01:05:40):
I did. Sure glad I did, and I am too.
I'll second that one because this is a juggernaut in
an episode. That's what I'm telling you, folks. You're welcome.
This is uh, this is the big dog. Blair signing off,
Thank you, Grace, thank you. Have a great week. Everybody
(01:06:01):
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