July 25, 2022 • 60 mins
Blair welcomes Nate Fernald (The Late Late Show with James Corden) to the show! He comes on to profess his love to a famous prankster/actor/podcaster.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, and thank you so much for coming back
another week to dear Owen Wilson, the world's best podcast,
the best podcast and the entire universe. Yeah, that's right,
it's your host player back. So happy to see you again.
I hope you guys are having a good week. I'm
thinking about you. I want to thank you so much
(00:22):
again for your messages. I want to thank you for
posting about the podcast. That's so nice. It makes me
so happy and lets other people know about it, which
is what I'm trying to do. Um. This week, we
have such a funny guest, one of my all time favorites.
He's done the show so many times and he's so funny.
H he's a writer for The Late Late Show with
(00:43):
James Gordon of many years. Hilarious man, Nate Bernald and
please enjoy Nate. Nate is just like uh, I feel
like he's not talked about enough. That's just like a
comedy icon. I find him so funny, so I hope
you guys will too. I loved this episode. It was
so funny, laughed a lot, and um about what's going
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on with me. I'm going to be in Montreal this
week that this comes out, so if you're up there, UM,
I'll be posting my shows on my Instagram. I'm going
to be doing a live Dear Owen Wilson as well
on Saturday. I'm also going to be in Chicago on
the fourth with Ron Funches and on the fifth in Milwaukee,
(01:27):
or that could be the third and fourth instead of
the fourth and fifth, but anyways, I'll be posting about it.
If you're in any of those cities, I would love
to come anyways. I just appreciate you guys so much.
You're the best. As I say every week, please leave
a review. It means so much. It helps the podcast
so much. Subscribe to tell a friend. That's the way
to support the show and keep it going. So, without
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further ado En troyed this episode with Nate Fernald. I
love you guys so much. See you next week. O Nate,
what's up? How's it going? It's been a while. Sorry
(02:09):
if I'm out of sorts. I just got out of
the hospital. Are you fucking serious for what? Uh? I
don't fully know yet. Some sort of rare virus um
worked real hard to avoid COVID and then some like
some like cooler hipper virus came around and got me. Yeah,
(02:30):
that's some hipster ship right there, like a mole globe's
overtaken by one virus. But you're like, no, I'm gonna
go alternative. Yeah, COVID is for Norman's souh. Rocks my
body pretty hard. And I was, yeah, you know, in
(02:51):
the in the emergency room, like barely conscious, getting put
in the tubes, people just putting stuff in me wild time.
Oh my god, Nay, I'm so sorry. So how are
you feeling now? I am so much better now. Um
Like now I'm just you know, like tired because you know, yeah,
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it takes a while to recover from something like that.
And do they know what it was from or anything
like that, So they think that it was they think
that they narrowed it down to like one of three
uh bug borne illnesses and so like, and I was,
I was just in Massachusetts visiting my family and who
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lives kind of like in the woods. So it's very
possible that like I got bit by something while I
was out there. Were you hiking or just enjoying some
food outside that was doing a little hiking, but also
like my parents house is kind of like sort of
deep in the woods so like their their home is
just like trees and streams, And did you grow up there? Yeah,
(03:57):
you did in that house. I grew up in Boston
in and and then we built a house when I
was like eight and then moved into that. Well, I um,
this is completely unrelated, but I have this intense desire
to live in the woods these days. I've been having
at too, like like I'm like, I have to be
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I have to get out of the city. I have
to live in trees, like I have to. I've been
like like thinking, I was like looking at like lakeside
properties and like Vermont and stuff, just like just you know,
deep deep wilderness and just being like, I don't know,
that could be nice. Yeah, except for that it could
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also turn out to be extremely dangerous, as we are
seeing in your case. Yeah, I know. It's this weird thing,
like like living in southern California is it's kind of
freaky because it's you know, it's always on fire, there's earthquakes,
we don't have water, and then so I'm just like,
well I was on the East Coast, like, oh, they
get tons of water here and nothing's on fire. But
(05:04):
it's like, oh, but there's there's so many bugs that
are out to get you over there to get Yeah,
the bugs are chill in California, so that's oh god. Well,
I guess we should get started. I just excited to
see you. Okay, here we go. Um, well, I think
(05:27):
we already started, but I guess I should introduce and
just say hello to all my listeners around the globe,
the whole planet, my fans everywhere, far reaching and even intergalactically.
I'm giving a big, warm hello to you, guys. I
wouldn't be here without you. And do I have an
(05:50):
episode for you guys today. I know we've been chatting.
You heard us chatting already, but yeah, I just want
to introduce my law time friend, very lauded comedian and
um a writer for The Late Late Show with James Cordon.
Please welcome my friend Nate for ANDLD everybody. Hello, Hi Blair,
(06:24):
thank you Wow. Nate, fresh off of big Scare in
the Hospital from a Demon Bug, back to do the
Dear Owen Wilson Show, of which you are several time
guests and favorite alumni alumni. Yeah, yeah, some of my
(06:48):
favorite times were when you were on it. You really
you really came to play. Um, I'll say this, Uh,
your show, dear Owen Wilson was maybe the the only
time in the last I don't even know how many
years that I went to a comedy show that I
wasn't on. Really yeah, wait you went when you weren't
(07:11):
on it? I went, Yeah, I went to to see
it once. Really. Yeah, that's like one of the craziest
things I've ever heard. I know, it's insane. Like I
enjoyed the show and I did it, and I saw
I was I was doing once and I was like
telling my girlfriend, like, I was like, you gotta see Blair.
She's so funny. And then and I was like, oh,
her show has happening this weekend. Let's go. That's so
(07:32):
nice again, Kala. Okay, gosh, you guys are a cute
couple too. Well. Thanks, Yeah, you've been together a long time,
long time. Yeah, which you know, as we all know
around here in Hollywood, in this town is rare. Yeah.
So you guys are fighting the good fight and that
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rare thing in Hollywood. We're the same age okay, Keiana
Reaes Wow age appropriate Nate for no, That's what I'm
calling you from now on, not that there's anything wrong.
Oh no, there is. Okay, there's a lot wrong with this.
(08:17):
I didn't mean to get I didn't mean to get
so political so quickly. But as you know, I'm a
very political comedian. My comedy is nothing if not strongly political. Yeah,
that's one of my favorite things about you. Yeah. It
may seem like I'm making jokes about diarrhea and my
(08:38):
penis falling off, but it's actually secretly politics. Okay, well, Nate,
without any spoilers, why don't you just launch into the
letter for us? Okay, here we go. Dear Dex Shepherd.
(09:01):
I am writing you because I have an urgent question
that needs an urgent answer, and only you have the
ability to answer it. What is DAX short for? Is
it Daxter dax well das dead ass? Up? It's probably
one of those, but it is imperative that I find out.
(09:24):
You see, a few years ago, I sideswiped some sort
of which with my car. It was an honest mistake.
I was barreling down the freeway at ninety miles now
or trying to scare some backpackers. I lost control of
the car and the only thing that could slow me
down was crashing directly into her an innocent gaff. Nevertheless,
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with her dying breath, she cursed me with a receiving
butt hole. I asked her, why would you do such
a thing to me, and she said because you hit
me with your car. I said, well, it's not my car,
so undo the curse please. She asked me if I
stole the car and I said, yeah, that's how you
get cars and she said no, you buy a car
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and I was like, okay, and you get to the
car store without a car? How exactly? She said, take
a taxi and I said, okay, so you're all right
with me taking a taxi, but not taking some guy's
car from him, and get your story straight, lady. She
was like, how are you this dumb? And I was like,
(10:32):
how are you this alive? I was going like ninety
when I hit you straight on. Then she died, but
not before she said that the only way to break
this curse is to find out what DAX is short for,
or by donating twenty dollars to any charity. And this
is where you come in, dak Shepherd. For years now,
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my butthole has been slowly receding to the front of
my body. Any day. Now the curse will be complete
and I will be forced to shoot out of my
dick like some sort of reverse guy who ships out
of his butt. I know, pretty cool, but also kind
of gross, and I don't think that I want that.
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I've tried everything, like naming my son Decks, and on
his eighteenth birthday, I asked him what Dax was short for.
He didn't know, so I threw him in the lake
and I said, no college for you. And now I'm
all out of ideas. I hope this letter finds its
way to you. I don't have your address, so I
simply wrote Dax on the envelope and put it in
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the mail. I mean, who else are they gonna give
it to you? Some other Decks? No way, You're the
only Decks, ah Ship. There's also my son, Decks. Hold on,
I gotta go change his name the Rufus or something. Okay,
all done. My son's name is now Dex Rufus ah Ship.
I did the wrong name. Hold on again. Okay, all
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done for real. Now his name is now Rufus Rufus.
Bye bye ps. What is Michael Pani like? Sincerely, Nate, Nate,
While Buddy coming in hot with that letter. God, that
might even be one of the best letters we've had
so far. I think. Thank yeah, I can tell you
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put a lot of heart and soul into that one.
I was afraid it was too sincere. Yes, I know,
I which I understand. I think a lot of comedians,
when I do ask them to write a sincere letter
to a celebrity they love, they can sometimes squirm a
little bit in their seat. But I am always impressed with,
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you know, the vulnerability that people do bring when they
come on the show with their letters. I think a
lot of people try to get too silly, too quick,
and I didn't want that to happen. So thank you
for respecting the art form, the O format professional. Okay, well, Nate,
I know you remember my private detective Lucian Wiggles. Do
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you remember him right? What's this little fucker dug up
this time? Yeah? Well, I know you're intimately acquainted, you know. Uh,
Lucian has been receiving some pushback from some of our guests,
but you know, he doesn't feel he doesn't really feel it,
(13:35):
and he is pretty unperturbed by the public perception of him. Um,
which I can't really relate to. But I am glad
to have him on my team. And you know, one
thing I liked about you is sort of you didn't
really take uh Lucian personally, because you know, he's just
doing his job of being extremely thorough private detective. Okay, well,
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with that being said, according to my spy Lucian that
I pay, Doc Shepherd was named by his mother for
the rich playboy Dax from Harold Robbins novel The Adventurers Nate.
Which rich playboy are you named after? Nathan Lane? Really?
(14:23):
Nathan Lane? No idea? Uh My mom was a huge
fan of mouse Hunt, um, which I know came out
many years after I was born, and that's when she
changed my name to Nathan. She was like, she was like,
I made a mistake naming you Brian or whatever. And
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then when she saw mouse Hunt, she was like this,
this is your name, Nathan Nathan Lane. Whow and also
whow surprising because I did not know that mother still
had the freedom to change their adult son's names. Well
(15:06):
they might not keep true. Yeah, okay, so she was
exercising her last rights to change you to be named
after the famous playboy and Nathan Lane. Wow. I gotta
say this That's why this podcast is so important, because
(15:29):
I learned information like that that I would never learn Otherwise,
I would never know that my friend nay for and
all walking around all this time has been named after
Nathan Lane from mouse Hunt. From Hunt? Wow? Okay, so
how come you changed out your mouse Hunt poster in
(15:51):
the background? The painting is great? But yeah, yeah, I um,
I don't really talk about how they're a fan of
mouse on Diane that much. It's sort of something that
I like to keep private. As you know, being in
the public eye, you just sort of want to keep
something for you, yeah, private And interesting that you feel
(16:16):
that way while sending this detective after all your friends. Ye, so,
Nate doc Shepherd famously played Crosby Braverman on the NBC
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comedy drama Parenthood from two thousand twelve. To Nate, I
have to ask you, what is it about NBC comedy
dramas that are so right up your alley? Well, I
think it's that they let themselves just get a little
bit silly and a little bit surreal. Really, So that's
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what sort of kind of gets your engines revving. That's
what gets me going, Like all the other network your
special combo elixir. You know, ABC, They're they're they're always
trying to be too heartfelt. CBS, I can't tell. I
can't say what they do because I work for them.
Right now, I'm just gonna ask what network the lately. Yeah, oh,
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but don't worry when they have me back when the
show ends so I can spill the spill the beans
on how I feel about CBS. Okay, Yeah, that will
be a sort of exclusive episode Dear and Wilson exclusive
maybe Wilson exclusive bonus for the Patreon subscribers. We don't
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have Patreon, but I know Access Hollywood is already weeping
finding out that we just got the exclusive rights to
Nathan for adults. True Hollywood Store. Um. But yeah, but
NBC they mix silly with a little bit of surreal,
and you know what, I'm here for it. Wow, you
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heard it here, verse folks, Okay, NBC cillian Suru Nate
Dax famously got his start in two thousand three on
MTVS hit prank show Punked. Similarly, I start as a
cast member on MTVS not hit prank show Lady Like
(18:32):
in two sixteen. Nate, why in your opinion would you
say I am not famous like Dax. Now, now you're
not being famous, that's look, I have issue with that
and I but but when you put the qualifier like Dax, Look, Blair,
(18:55):
this is Dak Shephard we're talking about here. This is
what this is without of paddles, Dak Shephard, we're talking
about here. So not famous like Dax. I mean that
I can't answer. But why why not famous? Because look,
because the world's an unjust place and you just got
bit by a man eating bug. Yeah yeah, well, instantly
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enjoying your parents company at your childhood home. There's no
rhyme reason any of it. Thank you for saying that,
And you're right, you know, when it comes down to it,
I shouldn't compare myself to Dax. That's a recipe for
a disaster. Yeah, oh none of us should. Yeah, they say,
(19:41):
as they say, Nate comparison is a thief of joy. Yeah, yeah,
that's for sure. That's her, fucking sure, Nate. In two
thousand and twelve, Dak Shepherd went vegan, but of cour
it into a little investigation, he is no longer vegan.
(20:06):
Do you think he should be punished for this? Why
or why not? And if so, what sort of punitive damages.
Would you like to see happen? I think he's got
to eat a whole tree, a tree, old dan tree, Nate,
what size tree? What sort of tree? Would talking because
(20:30):
as I don't know, that's a whole spectrum of sizes. Yeah,
we're talking a big boy, more of the big boys,
the kind of you kind of get firewood out of
oh my god, redwood. Look, he doesn't not a redwood,
but maybe like a like a like an oak or
a maple. Whoa, yeah, and it doesn't have to be
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in one sitting. But yeah, because that could take you
many years to eat oak tree. You're gonna go back
on your work being vegan. You gotta a tone. And
the only way to a tone you gotta tree. Oh
my god, you know, I think the government should listen
to you. And also just to clarify, he's eating the tree,
(21:15):
which is a big punishment, and oak tree that seems
like a hard feat to accomplish. What is he still
eating beef and pork on the side of eating the tree. Probably? Yeah,
so you are allowing that, Yeah, he needs that energy
to eat that tree. He's gonna he's gonna have to
get a lot of beef and pork to get through
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that tree to power. Sorry, the vegan diet is not
going to give him the strength to get that whole treated.
So and Nate, I I hate to get too personal
on here, but are you also a vegan? I'm not
a vegan, but but I do I do limit my
(22:03):
my meat intake in what in what way? Like what's
the limit? So like like I don't have like a
number on it, but I um, if there's like a
different option, I'll like, like if there's ever like a
like if I'm at a burger place and there's an
impossible burger, I'll always do the impossible burger. Or and
I don't usually buy meat at the grocery store, like
(22:25):
it's I usually it's usually just like when I go
out somewhere or like if I'm out of place that's
serving meat or whatever, I'll eat the meat, but I
try to I try to keep it, keep it like
you know limited ish. Oh my god, Nay, you are
so principal. You go to a burger place and if
they have a veggie option, you choose it the impossible burger.
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I can't even imagine. Look, I don't want to say
that I'm the most righteous person in the world. But
but it's you know, I'm really good. But it's like, look,
if I were at a vegan place or something and
they had the impossible burger, sure, great, happy to get it,
(23:12):
you know what I mean. But if you go specifically
to a burger place and you got I mean, that
is like a lot of discipline. But also look, I
go to plenty of burger places that don't have impossible burgers,
and then I'll get the regular burger. Yeah. If if
I were you with that rule, that would be my move.
I'd be all of interesting. They don't have it here. Again,
(23:35):
I'm not like it's not like a hard rule or anything,
you know. You know, I'm just like trying that. You know,
maybe like once twice a week I'll do I'll do
a meet or something. Okay, good because if I find
out otherwise and you know what's gonna happen, I'm gonna
drop off a tree on your doorstep. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
gonna eat the whole thing. But also like, but also
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like I just need to I just need to clarify,
like I'm fine with with people eating meat, you know,
Like I'm not, Oh, you're not. That's an important quality.
I'm not I'm not judgy about it. Like that's like
if if if we go to a burger place and
you get like a regular burger and they have an
impossible burger, I'm not going to be like a player.
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What are you doing? Even though I made Dax eat
that tree, and Dax eat the tree, even though I
believe Dax should be punished for thirty years of eating
an oak tree, it's totally chill if you want to
just have a smash burger. Yeah. I like that. You're flexible,
(24:46):
You're chill. I love that about you. Okay, So Nate
asked previously mentioned you have a very successful long term
romantic relationship. Would you say that your connection is stronger
than that of Dax and Kristen Bell. I mean that's
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for God to say, not me. Wow. Wow, that's powerful. Yeah,
because I think a lot of times our human minds
we want to put labels on things, we want to
we want to pit ourselves against each other. Go on
podcast where the host will make you pick yourself against
other people, and sometimes only God can decide if your
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connection is stronger than Dax and Kristen Bell's. They you know, like,
look through this. I haven't. I haven't been inside their relationship,
so I don't. I don't know what it's like, right right,
right right, I know what I see on TV. But
let's face it, TVs TV. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna
catch I'm gonna catch heat for saying this, But dear
(25:54):
Owen Wilson Exclusive TV is freaking fake Wilson Exclusive. Oh what,
Oh my god, this sounds freaking fake. You know what's crazy?
(26:16):
Like you know that whole when that whole John Laney
thing happened, and everyone was like para social relationships, pair
of social relationships, which I had never heard that word
of my wife. I had never once in my life
heard of a para social. But I do feel sadness
(26:39):
when Hollywood couples break up and and it's not in it.
I do feel it comes from a more pure place though,
because I just have compassion, Like I was rooting for
them to work out, and I feel sadness that it
didn't work out for them, or that, you know, their
lot was love lost. That's some that's really paras social
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of you. That's like so paras social. I do experience
sadness when I've been like, especially if they've been together
for a long time. It seems like I would in
real life if I knew someone. I feel like, I mean,
I think that's that's I think it's it's sad when
that happens to anybody. You know, Yeah, like that. It's
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not exclusively for celebrities, So I guess it's not. I
guess it's not that para social for you. Yeah, you're right,
You're right. I'm extremely healthy, well adjusted person in Hollywood. Um. Okay,
so you're a real girl in a fake town. Okay, so, uh,
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Nate and Carla connection stronger than Dax and Kristen Bell inconclusive?
I didn't say that. Oh sorry, you sitting conclusive? Sorry? Yeah, inconclusive. Inconclusive,
we can't determine. We don't have a measuring take a
direct measurement. Um. I mean, I'd be happy to go
on like one of those those game shows against them,
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like a family. Few type of situations would. I would
love to see you. I was named after Nathan Lane.
Who were you named after? Look? I know you and
Steve Harvey and are closed. So you get in a column,
(28:29):
see what could happen? And see if I could make
some magic happen, because that could be one of the
greatest thirty minutes of entertainment of all time. That'd be
I mean, that'd be really incredible if that happened. If
like a celebrity couple and too absolute randos battled it
out on a popular television show, I wish I could
(28:53):
host that one too. Maybe I could stub for my
dear friends Steve Harvey be the moderator, one of my
main skills of grating. As I said, you two are close,
so I'm sure you'd let that happen. Yeah, what was
your old comedy duo's name, A couple of Nuts or something?
(29:16):
A couple of nuts. It really started because he had
the same taste in suits, and we often show up
places dressed the same. And so after a while of
like The Third Running, where Steve Harvey and I showed
up in the same suit, We're like, there's something here. Well,
you two. When you guys had your duo, he had
(29:37):
no mustache and a ton of hair. And then and
then when you guys disbanded, he needed to, like, you know,
try and stand out from his previous role. So he
shaved his head and grew the mustache, right, A lot
of people don't know that. I know. Yeah, listeners, you
are really receiving a lot of hit the toil private
(29:59):
I formation, and so I hope you know your blessed
by Nate uncovering a lot of the truth. History. History
is being revealed right now. Okay, well, so we'll put
that on my to do list to uh give old
Steve Adal. Hopefully everything's good between us, you know, even
though he has the mustache. Now, oh man, if he
(30:23):
shaved it for your for like a reunion. Yeah you
the internet? Huh what do you think that stash would
fetch you on eBay? Oh? God? People love the people
love to buy that novelty shirt, you know that, Uh,
the memorabilia. So I think it could go for a
cool mill what about you, easily, cool meal? Easily? Okay,
(30:48):
So Nate, According to Lucian Wiggles, Dox is an avid
car enthusiast and can rebuild an engine. He allegedly owned
the nine seven Lincoln Continental featured in the movie Hit
and Run, and that he races off road in his
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free time. Nate, please tell our listeners where do you
race off road? And maybe that even means metaphorically racing
off road? Um, physically off road l A river whoa
really wow? Metaphorically off road Joan Didion books you race
(31:37):
off road? Yeah? Well, and what's your favorite Joan Didion title?
My favorite Joan Didion title is, of course, what the heck? Wise?
My computer making a typing sounds? So does heck is
making a typing sound? On and so on. It's got
(31:58):
to be nights. Okay, that's interesting. I haven't seen that one.
Um um A Blue Knight. Yeah. Well, I'd have to
(32:27):
say the only Joan Diddion title that I've raised off
road is the White Album. And if I can be
candid with you and my listeners, and I know I
can because I see you guys as my family. Uh.
The White Album was a slow start for me. It
sure didn't feel like I was raising off road at first,
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but then things picked up when we sort of got
to Joan chronicling the Manson murders. Um, I found that
more interesting. Very austeer woman, her writing, very austere and clipped.
Is that sort of what gives you a thrill? Nate?
I mean absolutely, yeah, you nailed it. Just the extreme
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precision and economy of language. That she employs absolutely sort
of gives you a intense thrill, like racing down the
l A River. Damn, it's like you're reading my mind
right now. I do have a highly developed intuition. And now,
what kind of vehicle are you racing down the l
(33:35):
A River? And is that legal? Are there cops down
there or isn't highly illegal? Right? Okay, so hopefully you
won't be italiing on yourself on this podcast or no
law enforcement is listening or anything like that. Oh cred
oh cred um uh um getting at Nate's starting to
(34:07):
sweat profusely, sort of buckets and it's not Nay. I
just want to know what vehicle you raced down there
illegally drag race in case the cops come. Wow wow.
And interestingly enough, because I think we have both positioned
(34:31):
ourselves as environmentalists. I also drive a Prius. Oh night,
what color white? At Yeah? Pretty close to mind silver? Yeah,
but I wouldn't call it the fastest car on the road. Interesting. Um,
(34:58):
do you ever respond to that the because I know
you did. You did tell us in your letter that
you um killed that woman on the freeway going nineties.
Oh crap, This goes out to people. This isn't a
this isn't a private conversation. It's interesting that you say that,
because I do that on podcasts all the time. I
(35:20):
forget that millions and I mean millions of people are
going to hear this because I'm just speaking from the heart,
one on one with a dear friend. You know. I like,
like almost never talk about my actual life on like
podcasts or or stand up or anything, because I'm just like,
(35:42):
I don't want people have known about me, right right.
I mean the fact that I just revealed my car
and I feel pretty vulnerable right now, murder whatever, but
people know what kind of car I drive. That is
interesting because I felt the same thing when I just
said this the year in color of my car, and
(36:03):
I was like, why did I just feel very odd
when I said that, because I was like, whoa moneybags?
I know, I know, I'm like four hundred dollars away
from paying it off. Um No, but I feel like
the opposite. I already feel like I've revealed since I've
(36:24):
been in comedy, since I start a comedy, I've revealed,
and my comedy my stand up is very revealing too,
which sometimes feels very draining, and then I have to
go the next material. Following that, I'll go like completely absurd,
like revealing nothing about myself to balance it out. Whatever,
(36:46):
whatever the joke is, you know, that's what my life is.
My life is whatever, whatever the joke I write has
to be. Yeah, So like, look some some some sets
I'm single, some sets i'm I'm I have a girlfriend,
some sets are married, some sets I have children, like
just and there's but there is this weird like there's
(37:08):
this weird moment where I once I did a show
and I like, uh, I think my family came to
it and in the and I just had I had
a bunch of jokes about like I'm I'm single now
and that, and then my my parents were like when
when did you when? When did you guys break When
(37:29):
did you Cali breakout? Like she's here, you're sitting with her.
It's so funny. And it was this very strange realization
where I'm just like, oh, when you say something on stage,
people are just like, all right, that's that's real. Nate
for a old of the Nathan Lane lineage, just a
chronic liar on stage. So there's there's dozens of strangers
(37:56):
out there who who were like, Wow, this guy's bean
has fell off the toilet. No, you're one of my
favorite stand ups to watch. Yeah, Like I wish I
(38:16):
got to be on shows with you more often. Um, truthfully,
no one gets to them superstar. I haven't done stand
up and like like two years. That's a goddamn tragedy.
That upsets me. I don't want that for the public
because you're depriving them. But I did start a band,
(38:39):
So if that ain't a mid life crisis, I don't
know what is. Are you lying right now? Are being serious?
Because I'm so sorry? This is serious? Wait? What kind
of band? What you started it? How did this originate?
What happened? Uh? Just me one of my co workers.
We're gonna just like play our guitars after work one day.
And then another coworker was like, um, hey, my husband
(39:03):
plays the drums and doesn't have anyone to play with.
Can he come? And I was like, guy I've never met,
sounds good. Sure, And then and then he was like
I have a friend who plays the bass, and I
was like, another guy I've never met, sounds good. And
then uh, and then we all met up and everyone
got along great. And now we have a band called Crub.
Oh my god. So you have a four piece band
(39:26):
basically the late Late Show band and it's called Crub.
And what kind of music is it? And what is
your position in the band. It's rock and roll music.
And I'm a guitar and lead vocals. You're a big jogger. Yep, yep.
I'm not very good at guitar or singing, but whatever,
(39:47):
I'm just there to have a good time. Hell yeah,
I love that attitude. If we could all access that,
you want to have fun a fun Crub fact, please,
I'd love to. Our name was chosen by Mark McGrath
of the band's Sugar Ray. What how so we couldn't
We were having trouble settling on a name we had.
We had like a whole list of names, we couldn't
(40:08):
pick one. So on my birthday the other guys got
a cameo from Mark McGrath where they sent him all
the names and had him pick one for us. That's hilarious.
What a genius idea. If you ever need something decided arbitrated,
to contact Mark McGrath. I just want to say he
was great. He went above and beyond in this cameo.
(40:30):
He did like way more than he was contracted for,
and he really did a great job. He was charismatic
and then at the end he played an acoustic rendition
of I Just Want to Fly and it was like
it was just it's it's such a it's a cherished video.
I have it downloaded onto my phone, like because I
don't want to risk not having a signal and wanting
(40:53):
to watch it. So like it's it is on my phone.
That's so important. I often find myself in that situation
where I didn't think ahead because I don't understand technology,
where I tried to play a video and I can't
because I'm in the sky or something. Yeah, that's why
I've got I got, I got the Mark McGrath video
and Charlie bit my finger on my phone at all times. Wow,
(41:17):
that is so incredible and so God A lifetime of
life has been lived since I last saw you. I mean,
you started a four piece band. It was named by
Mark McGrath. You were bitten by a demonic bug that
tried to take you from this earth in the woods
(41:38):
when you were innocently just trying to spend time with
your family. Wow, God, it's just been too long. Oh,
the last time I saw you was when I did
stand up for but we barely got to talk and then.
But but even before that, it was probably a very
long time before that. Yeah, I think the last time
(41:59):
I saw you was on that show we did Faded
right before the pandemic, Like it was like a week
or two before everything shut down. That was the last
time I did stand up. WHOA, that's crazy you witnessed it. Yeah. Wow.
I mean, I'm thankfully you started a band, but I
want you to do stand up again. Yeah, I'll do it.
(42:19):
I'll do it again. I feel like maybe we should
do a show together. I feel like we should do
something together. We don't have to talk about it now. Yeah,
that'd be a freaking blast. Oh, I did do well.
So I've done a couple of shows. So you know
Zach Brizard. Yeah. So we me and Zach have a
sketch group called the Boo Boys. Oh yeah, I was
(42:41):
trying to go to that and I couldn't because I
had my own show because I was like dying to
go to that that night. No, dang, it was. It
was a great time. So so, like, like you know,
some I still do look, I'm still doing live comedy.
But yeah, So like it's kind of funny because when
we first did the Boo Boys show, the first one
we did, it was like the whole the whole bit
(43:02):
of the show is so we we we only do
Halloween themes sketch comedy, and that the whole bit of
the show is that we're these like these two, these
two comedians who moved to l A and we we
only do Halloween themes sketch comedy, and we and we
can't find work and people keep offering us jobs, but
(43:22):
they asked us to write non Halloween comedy and we
say and we say, no, we won't do it, and
then we're and then and then and we only get
to perform once a year on Halloween, and we're just like,
why aren't our careers going on? Dang, And so the
whole thing is just like, yeah, imagine if like these
two losers moved to l A and then only did
(43:44):
a show on Halloween and refused to do any non
Halloween comedy and then just like the way the pandemic
worked out, It's kind of the old show I've done
is this Halloween show every year. So it's like it
like became a prophecy, and now we are two guys
who only do Halloween theme that's metal as hell. Yeah,
(44:07):
I love that. God, I have to make it this year. Honestly,
I'll cancel whatever I'm going to make it to go
see the Boo Boys. Great. Well, we're hoping this year
to do like like a run of of of like several,
like a few nights maybe. Thank god. It's like like
because the the we've only vote done one night of
the show, and you know, it's pretty pretty pretty limited event.
(44:30):
You know, a lot of people who wanted to go
couldn't go, right because it's only once a year. Yeah,
a year. That's how you make demand for something. Well,
I should have just learned a lot about business and demand.
I did you just do one episode of this podcast? Yeah,
you're right. Oh my god, why didn't I think of that? Yeah,
(44:52):
just a slow one episode every year. That's really funny.
Um okay. Well, according to Lucian Wiggles, Dox apparently was
involved in the Ground Links Theater with a class of
Melissa McCarthy, Fortune fem Sir Tay Taylor and that facts
(45:14):
in Nate. If you were also a member of the
ground Links in the nineties. Please tell us who you
think your class would have been. Do they have few
people who went to the Groundlings? You know, the questions
open to your interpretation of who you really think would
have been there with you. I'm gonna be honest. I
think it would have just been me and French Stewart. Okay, yeah, yeah, no,
(45:38):
Thank you for your honesty, because that is something that
we really do ask of our guests. Were just the
two of us, the two of us, we would have
been in a class with other people, and then me
and him would have such intense chemistry that the other
people in the class would just slowly start leaving, leaving
because they were like, this is we don't have a
(46:01):
place in this class while these two are here. Wow,
because too much connection, too much star power in one place. Yeah,
linked up, too powerful. Yeah, it's interesting. I can see
that dynamic. I was watching The New Kardashians, their new
show on Hulu last night, and it was the episode
where Courtney and Travis Barker get engaged and Travis has
(46:26):
four kids and Courtney has three kids, and they can't
stop making out or like touching in front of everyone,
and I was just thinking the kids. What would you
do if you were those kids, Like you're just boxed
out by your parents makeout but their connection was too powerful. Yeah, man,
(46:47):
that's weird, Like I get I get uncomfortable like my
parents hug. Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking about it from
that angle. That's got to be hard. But you know,
as you said, like you in French Stewarts, sometimes it
just goes that way. Yeah. Yeah. The rest of the
(47:08):
class would have felt like Travis Barker and Courts Courting
is that the one? Yeah, okay, the whole class would
have felt like their kids. Definitely, definitely okay on Nate
and please can you imagine rich kids at the groundlings.
(47:34):
I wonder who my class would be. Oh man, in
the nineties, I don't know. Maybe Eddie peppertone in me. Yeah, yeah,
that's a great matchup. Eddie Vevtol my favorite comic. I
gotta have him on here. He's my it's such a
one of the best parts about moving to l A
(47:55):
is that we became friends. He's so funny. Yeah, I so,
I've never asked someone to take a picture with me
that I don't know, and he's the one person in
my life. We became friends after, but like I always
think I was so nervous to ask him to take
a picture with me because I was just like obsessed
with him. Have you seen his special? No I've not.
(48:18):
Oh god, Nate, you got it. I think it's on
Amazon Prime. I of course was there for the live taping,
but uh, it is just I've never laughed that hard
in my life. I I've only gotten like two pictures
with people in in my life or like you know,
(48:38):
like performers that I'm a fan of, which is crazy
because you meet so many celebrities at your job every
day and then so like so one was like one
was at work, it was it was Henry Winkler and
I'm I'm such a big fan, and he was like
he was in like a sketch that I wrote, and
he was just like so funny and great and um
(49:01):
and I never would have asked for a photo, but um,
like what one of my co workers was there and
was like it was like, can we get a photo?
And like brought me into it and then I was
like cool, so like someone else did it and I
got it. Oh. I love when someone else takes the
fall for you. It's so good. I'm very glad it
happened because like you know that. And then then the
(49:23):
other one, this is a very obscure one. There's this
Australian band called the Go Betweens that's like one of
my favorite bands, favor bands of all time. How do
you know about how do you find out about them?
I'm just like a dork who like digs for like
weird old bands like on the internet and stuff and
(49:45):
goes to like record stores and do you have a
record per Oh, I see one? I think behind you?
Um yeah, yeah, I think yeah, it's right there. There's
also do you play do you play those a lot? Oh? Yeah?
Also I got a CD player to five just change
or not brag? Oh my god, braggy rich rich five
(50:06):
to CD player? Oh shit? Hey wait, So you saw
the guy from the goal between so so basically so
they broke up in like the nineteen eighties, and there's
two there's two guys in the band, and one of
them died maybe like ten years ago or something, and
then the other guy did a solo tour which like
(50:30):
he and he came into to it. He did a
show in l A and like the last time he
was in l a was something like fifteen years earlier
or something like that, and he's I think he's like
in his seventies now or something. And I was at
the show and I was just like, oh, I will
probably never see him perform again, like just like statistically, yeah,
(50:52):
yeah yeah. And then I was just like, I guess,
I guess I got to just get a picture. So
I did, so I did. Wow, is it framed? It's not.
It's just like on my phone, which is it's just
your phone background. I'm such a boring phone person. That's good.
Phones are ruining our society and particularly me and my
(51:15):
brain and soul. Oh well, okay, those are two really
good ones. I got like no apps on my phone. Nay,
you're so pure. I just have like functional apps and
it's just like there's like nothing fun on my phone,
and i'd like and I don't even have like cool picks.
Yeah right, I don't believe any of this. Do you
think I was born yesterday? You told me everyone in
(51:36):
Hollywood is fake? Um? I know that you meet so
many people because at the Late Late Show, like you've
met at probably every celebrity ever. Um, not that many,
to be honest. Well, because I don't meet the celebrity
unless they're specifically in a thing I'm working on. Oh okay,
(52:01):
and there's like eleven writers on staff. There's like two
head writers. There's also producers and stuff. So sometimes like
unless it's like a heavily scripted thing like a sketch. Um,
if it's just like a thing where it's like, hey,
you're gonna be on the couch and you're gonna play
this game or whatever, sometimes like the producer will brief
them on it and I won't even like come in contact, right,
(52:24):
So it's like it's only when they're in a sketch
that I wrote specifically. So it's like when you look
at like eleven writers on the show, twelve or twelve
however many and you know, and we don't do sketches
that often, so it's like those are pretty few and
far between. So it's really only like a handful of
celebs I meet every year. Who's the most beautiful person
(52:46):
you've ever seen? There? M hmmm mm hmm. It's I mean,
it's hard to say. I will say, when you see
a celebrity in person, it is shocking, Like I don't
know if it's because you've seen them on televisions in
the movies so much. But when you like, like there'll
(53:08):
be a celebrity that like, I don't know, maybe I'm
not like like oh I'm I'm so into this celeb
and then they'll like walk by at the show and
like I will like be like yeah, It's like like
something about seeing them in person is just like, well,
they don't look like regular people. They look like alien beautiful. Yeah.
(53:31):
When they're in movies, like they're surrounded by other beautiful people,
so it's just like like so they look somewhat normal
by comparison, and then when you see them like and
just an environment full of regular people, it's just like, oh,
that's that's why they like put this person on a big,
giant screen for all to see. Like it's yeah. Also,
(53:54):
and then those like big time actors or musicians where
they also just have a star power that's like startling. Yeah.
What time I was as in the same room as
Paul McCartney for like six seconds and it was it
was weird, big energy, it was yeah, history like there's this.
(54:17):
They were basically they were filming something and he basically
had to just like you know, step into a room
and like look around and then leave the room. And
I was just like one of the people they put
in that room. And then they were just like, you know,
when he comes in, just like, you know, don't don't
bother or don't ask for pictures or anything. And then
what he came. But I just was joking, like to
(54:37):
one of my co workers. I kept going, hey, paup
Hey pap the Beetles, being told not to say anything
to Paul McCartney and just saying the Beatles, Oh I
(54:59):
wanted to do. You're such a little rascal. I have
a little rascal. You're a little rascal. And uh god,
I've gotten so much information, including a murder confession, out
of you. It's been really good. Um, we are unfortunately
at our last question. I cannot even believe it. Um.
This is not a slight on either person, but a
(55:21):
completely subjective opinion, So please feel free to answer, frankly,
who do you think is aging better? Doak Shepherd or
Joe Biden? I mean, given that they're the same age,
Dak Shepherd. Yeah, well that you can expect that quote
(55:47):
to be a headline in the post tomorrow. Joe Biden's
like fifty. That's gonna cause some ways, but you know
that's why people tune into the Sorry, sorry, I'm gonna
bring all this heat to your but you know what,
I'm sick of being quiet about it. Joe Biden is
(56:09):
fifty two, and if the woke mob wants to come
after me and say that he's a different age, go ahead.
Oh my god, Well my heart stopped on that one
because of just you know, you're sort of devil make
care attitude and real just loves a fair attitude towards consequence. Yeah,
(56:34):
you know the how the truth is so important to me.
You I have always called you a truth teller. Yeah, yeah,
and um, the people got to know that Joe Biden two. Well, okay,
that conclude our main interview. And while there was what
a roller coaster Fox God, I'm just catching my breath
(56:58):
after that one. Okay, we do like to conclude our
interview with one special segment called fan on the Street,
and if you could just sort of regale us, so
(57:21):
I know you have. We did speak about all of
your celebrity encounters, but maybe you just have sort of
a fun celebrity anecdote encounter off the top of your
head that might be fun for us. I do. I do. Actually,
um so, my first big time job was writing for
(57:41):
the Pete Home Show, Um, the talk show he had,
which was produced by Conan, And it was like Conan's
follow up show. And Conan is like my like number
one idol, like just just crazy about Conan. Like I wouldn't.
I wouldn't if it wasn't for Conan, you wouldn't even
know me, Blair, I would have been then I would
(58:03):
have been like a like a computer programmer or something
like that programmer. So, um, we're so. Conan was like
executive producer of The Pete Home Show. And then the
first day um were that we started, Conan came into
(58:25):
the writer's room and just kind of like sat down
and talked to us for a minute, and he sat
right next to me on the couch and I was
just like I was just like, oh my god, like
it was. It was the most just like wild, surreal
moment that's ever happened. And then he um, he said,
(58:45):
you know, I'm gonna give you guys the advice that
Johnny Carson gave me when I started hosting Late Night.
And I was just like, oh my god. Conan O'Brien
is about to relay advice from Johnny Carson to me, like,
this is the most insane thing that has ever happened,
Like I cannot believe this is happening. And then he's like,
(59:08):
and that's what he said. I can't wait to see
what you guys come up with. I think it shows
to be great. And I was just like, oh my god,
what did he say? Like I completely missed what he said.
I was just like so like in shock the moment,
I didn't hear what he said, Oh my god. And
then he like and then he left the room, and
I was too embarrassed to be like, what did he say?
(59:29):
So he still to this day, I still don't know,
and I should probably ask. I should probably ask the
other writers now at the time, you have to like today,
because I need to know. Now, Okay, I will. I'll
send some texts out. Wow, that's really powerful though, and
then we could do a follow up Patreon bonus episode.
So I know you don't know you don't have a Patreon,
(59:51):
but so far, so far, Bla, we've had a few
Patreon bonus episode opportunities here, so you and I can
just do a Patriot h thy God, it's been such
a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on to
see you. And I'm going to see you soon so
(01:00:12):
we can, you know, get to work on whatever we're
gonna do. I can't wait. I'm so excited. Yes, okay,
thank you. Having a week everyone, M
Hello everyone, and thank you so much for coming back
another week to dear Owen Wilson, the world's best podcast,
the best podcast and the entire universe. Yeah, that's right,
it's your host player back. So happy to see you again.
I hope you guys are having a good week. I'm
thinking about you. I want to thank you so much
(00:22):
again for your messages. I want to thank you for
posting about the podcast. That's so nice. It makes me
so happy and lets other people know about it, which
is what I'm trying to do. Um. This week, we
have such a funny guest, one of my all time favorites.
He's done the show so many times and he's so funny.
H he's a writer for The Late Late Show with
(00:43):
James Gordon of many years. Hilarious man, Nate Bernald and
please enjoy Nate. Nate is just like uh, I feel
like he's not talked about enough. That's just like a
comedy icon. I find him so funny, so I hope
you guys will too. I loved this episode. It was
so funny, laughed a lot, and um about what's going
(01:06):
on with me. I'm going to be in Montreal this
week that this comes out, so if you're up there, UM,
I'll be posting my shows on my Instagram. I'm going
to be doing a live Dear Owen Wilson as well
on Saturday. I'm also going to be in Chicago on
the fourth with Ron Funches and on the fifth in Milwaukee,
(01:27):
or that could be the third and fourth instead of
the fourth and fifth, but anyways, I'll be posting about it.
If you're in any of those cities, I would love
to come anyways. I just appreciate you guys so much.
You're the best. As I say every week, please leave
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(01:49):
further ado En troyed this episode with Nate Fernald. I
love you guys so much. See you next week. O Nate,
what's up? How's it going? It's been a while. Sorry
(02:09):
if I'm out of sorts. I just got out of
the hospital. Are you fucking serious for what? Uh? I
don't fully know yet. Some sort of rare virus um
worked real hard to avoid COVID and then some like
some like cooler hipper virus came around and got me. Yeah,
(02:30):
that's some hipster ship right there, like a mole globe's
overtaken by one virus. But you're like, no, I'm gonna
go alternative. Yeah, COVID is for Norman's souh. Rocks my
body pretty hard. And I was, yeah, you know, in
(02:51):
the in the emergency room, like barely conscious, getting put
in the tubes, people just putting stuff in me wild time.
Oh my god, Nay, I'm so sorry. So how are
you feeling now? I am so much better now. Um
Like now I'm just you know, like tired because you know, yeah,
(03:15):
it takes a while to recover from something like that.
And do they know what it was from or anything
like that, So they think that it was they think
that they narrowed it down to like one of three
uh bug borne illnesses and so like, and I was,
I was just in Massachusetts visiting my family and who
(03:35):
lives kind of like in the woods. So it's very
possible that like I got bit by something while I
was out there. Were you hiking or just enjoying some
food outside that was doing a little hiking, but also
like my parents house is kind of like sort of
deep in the woods so like their their home is
just like trees and streams, And did you grow up there? Yeah,
(03:57):
you did in that house. I grew up in Boston
in and and then we built a house when I
was like eight and then moved into that. Well, I um,
this is completely unrelated, but I have this intense desire
to live in the woods these days. I've been having
at too, like like I'm like, I have to be
(04:20):
I have to get out of the city. I have
to live in trees, like I have to. I've been
like like thinking, I was like looking at like lakeside
properties and like Vermont and stuff, just like just you know,
deep deep wilderness and just being like, I don't know,
that could be nice. Yeah, except for that it could
(04:42):
also turn out to be extremely dangerous, as we are
seeing in your case. Yeah, I know. It's this weird thing,
like like living in southern California is it's kind of
freaky because it's you know, it's always on fire, there's earthquakes,
we don't have water, and then so I'm just like,
well I was on the East Coast, like, oh, they
get tons of water here and nothing's on fire. But
(05:04):
it's like, oh, but there's there's so many bugs that
are out to get you over there to get Yeah,
the bugs are chill in California, so that's oh god. Well,
I guess we should get started. I just excited to
see you. Okay, here we go. Um, well, I think
(05:27):
we already started, but I guess I should introduce and
just say hello to all my listeners around the globe,
the whole planet, my fans everywhere, far reaching and even intergalactically.
I'm giving a big, warm hello to you, guys. I
wouldn't be here without you. And do I have an
(05:50):
episode for you guys today. I know we've been chatting.
You heard us chatting already, but yeah, I just want
to introduce my law time friend, very lauded comedian and
um a writer for The Late Late Show with James Cordon.
Please welcome my friend Nate for ANDLD everybody. Hello, Hi Blair,
(06:24):
thank you Wow. Nate, fresh off of big Scare in
the Hospital from a Demon Bug, back to do the
Dear Owen Wilson Show, of which you are several time
guests and favorite alumni alumni. Yeah, yeah, some of my
(06:48):
favorite times were when you were on it. You really
you really came to play. Um, I'll say this, Uh,
your show, dear Owen Wilson was maybe the the only
time in the last I don't even know how many
years that I went to a comedy show that I
wasn't on. Really yeah, wait you went when you weren't
(07:11):
on it? I went, Yeah, I went to to see
it once. Really. Yeah, that's like one of the craziest
things I've ever heard. I know, it's insane. Like I
enjoyed the show and I did it, and I saw
I was I was doing once and I was like
telling my girlfriend, like, I was like, you gotta see Blair.
She's so funny. And then and I was like, oh,
her show has happening this weekend. Let's go. That's so
(07:32):
nice again, Kala. Okay, gosh, you guys are a cute
couple too. Well. Thanks, Yeah, you've been together a long time,
long time. Yeah, which you know, as we all know
around here in Hollywood, in this town is rare. Yeah.
So you guys are fighting the good fight and that
(07:54):
rare thing in Hollywood. We're the same age okay, Keiana
Reaes Wow age appropriate Nate for no, That's what I'm
calling you from now on, not that there's anything wrong.
Oh no, there is. Okay, there's a lot wrong with this.
(08:17):
I didn't mean to get I didn't mean to get
so political so quickly. But as you know, I'm a
very political comedian. My comedy is nothing if not strongly political. Yeah,
that's one of my favorite things about you. Yeah. It
may seem like I'm making jokes about diarrhea and my
(08:38):
penis falling off, but it's actually secretly politics. Okay, well, Nate,
without any spoilers, why don't you just launch into the
letter for us? Okay, here we go. Dear Dex Shepherd.
(09:01):
I am writing you because I have an urgent question
that needs an urgent answer, and only you have the
ability to answer it. What is DAX short for? Is
it Daxter dax well das dead ass? Up? It's probably
one of those, but it is imperative that I find out.
(09:24):
You see, a few years ago, I sideswiped some sort
of which with my car. It was an honest mistake.
I was barreling down the freeway at ninety miles now
or trying to scare some backpackers. I lost control of
the car and the only thing that could slow me
down was crashing directly into her an innocent gaff. Nevertheless,
(09:48):
with her dying breath, she cursed me with a receiving
butt hole. I asked her, why would you do such
a thing to me, and she said because you hit
me with your car. I said, well, it's not my car,
so undo the curse please. She asked me if I
stole the car and I said, yeah, that's how you
get cars and she said no, you buy a car
(10:11):
and I was like, okay, and you get to the
car store without a car? How exactly? She said, take
a taxi and I said, okay, so you're all right
with me taking a taxi, but not taking some guy's
car from him, and get your story straight, lady. She
was like, how are you this dumb? And I was like,
(10:32):
how are you this alive? I was going like ninety
when I hit you straight on. Then she died, but
not before she said that the only way to break
this curse is to find out what DAX is short for,
or by donating twenty dollars to any charity. And this
is where you come in, dak Shepherd. For years now,
(10:55):
my butthole has been slowly receding to the front of
my body. Any day. Now the curse will be complete
and I will be forced to shoot out of my
dick like some sort of reverse guy who ships out
of his butt. I know, pretty cool, but also kind
of gross, and I don't think that I want that.
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I've tried everything, like naming my son Decks, and on
his eighteenth birthday, I asked him what Dax was short for.
He didn't know, so I threw him in the lake
and I said, no college for you. And now I'm
all out of ideas. I hope this letter finds its
way to you. I don't have your address, so I
simply wrote Dax on the envelope and put it in
(11:37):
the mail. I mean, who else are they gonna give
it to you? Some other Decks? No way, You're the
only Decks, ah Ship. There's also my son, Decks. Hold on,
I gotta go change his name the Rufus or something. Okay,
all done. My son's name is now Dex Rufus ah Ship.
I did the wrong name. Hold on again. Okay, all
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done for real. Now his name is now Rufus Rufus.
Bye bye ps. What is Michael Pani like? Sincerely, Nate, Nate,
While Buddy coming in hot with that letter. God, that
might even be one of the best letters we've had
so far. I think. Thank yeah, I can tell you
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put a lot of heart and soul into that one.
I was afraid it was too sincere. Yes, I know,
I which I understand. I think a lot of comedians,
when I do ask them to write a sincere letter
to a celebrity they love, they can sometimes squirm a
little bit in their seat. But I am always impressed with,
(12:45):
you know, the vulnerability that people do bring when they
come on the show with their letters. I think a
lot of people try to get too silly, too quick,
and I didn't want that to happen. So thank you
for respecting the art form, the O format professional. Okay, well, Nate,
I know you remember my private detective Lucian Wiggles. Do
(13:12):
you remember him right? What's this little fucker dug up
this time? Yeah? Well, I know you're intimately acquainted, you know. Uh,
Lucian has been receiving some pushback from some of our guests,
but you know, he doesn't feel he doesn't really feel it,
(13:35):
and he is pretty unperturbed by the public perception of him. Um,
which I can't really relate to. But I am glad
to have him on my team. And you know, one
thing I liked about you is sort of you didn't
really take uh Lucian personally, because you know, he's just
doing his job of being extremely thorough private detective. Okay, well,
(14:01):
with that being said, according to my spy Lucian that
I pay, Doc Shepherd was named by his mother for
the rich playboy Dax from Harold Robbins novel The Adventurers Nate.
Which rich playboy are you named after? Nathan Lane? Really?
(14:23):
Nathan Lane? No idea? Uh My mom was a huge
fan of mouse Hunt, um, which I know came out
many years after I was born, and that's when she
changed my name to Nathan. She was like, she was like,
I made a mistake naming you Brian or whatever. And
(14:45):
then when she saw mouse Hunt, she was like this,
this is your name, Nathan Nathan Lane. Whow and also
whow surprising because I did not know that mother still
had the freedom to change their adult son's names. Well
(15:06):
they might not keep true. Yeah, okay, so she was
exercising her last rights to change you to be named
after the famous playboy and Nathan Lane. Wow. I gotta
say this That's why this podcast is so important, because
(15:29):
I learned information like that that I would never learn Otherwise,
I would never know that my friend nay for and
all walking around all this time has been named after
Nathan Lane from mouse Hunt. From Hunt? Wow? Okay, so
how come you changed out your mouse Hunt poster in
(15:51):
the background? The painting is great? But yeah, yeah, I um,
I don't really talk about how they're a fan of
mouse on Diane that much. It's sort of something that
I like to keep private. As you know, being in
the public eye, you just sort of want to keep
something for you, yeah, private And interesting that you feel
(16:16):
that way while sending this detective after all your friends. Ye, so,
Nate doc Shepherd famously played Crosby Braverman on the NBC
(16:38):
comedy drama Parenthood from two thousand twelve. To Nate, I
have to ask you, what is it about NBC comedy
dramas that are so right up your alley? Well, I
think it's that they let themselves just get a little
bit silly and a little bit surreal. Really, So that's
(17:02):
what sort of kind of gets your engines revving. That's
what gets me going, Like all the other network your
special combo elixir. You know, ABC, They're they're they're always
trying to be too heartfelt. CBS, I can't tell. I
can't say what they do because I work for them.
Right now, I'm just gonna ask what network the lately. Yeah, oh,
(17:26):
but don't worry when they have me back when the
show ends so I can spill the spill the beans
on how I feel about CBS. Okay, Yeah, that will
be a sort of exclusive episode Dear and Wilson exclusive
maybe Wilson exclusive bonus for the Patreon subscribers. We don't
(17:48):
have Patreon, but I know Access Hollywood is already weeping
finding out that we just got the exclusive rights to
Nathan for adults. True Hollywood Store. Um. But yeah, but
NBC they mix silly with a little bit of surreal,
and you know what, I'm here for it. Wow, you
(18:11):
heard it here, verse folks, Okay, NBC cillian Suru Nate
Dax famously got his start in two thousand three on
MTVS hit prank show Punked. Similarly, I start as a
cast member on MTVS not hit prank show Lady Like
(18:32):
in two sixteen. Nate, why in your opinion would you
say I am not famous like Dax. Now, now you're
not being famous, that's look, I have issue with that
and I but but when you put the qualifier like Dax, Look, Blair,
(18:55):
this is Dak Shephard we're talking about here. This is
what this is without of paddles, Dak Shephard, we're talking
about here. So not famous like Dax. I mean that
I can't answer. But why why not famous? Because look,
because the world's an unjust place and you just got
bit by a man eating bug. Yeah yeah, well, instantly
(19:20):
enjoying your parents company at your childhood home. There's no
rhyme reason any of it. Thank you for saying that,
And you're right, you know, when it comes down to it,
I shouldn't compare myself to Dax. That's a recipe for
a disaster. Yeah, oh none of us should. Yeah, they say,
(19:41):
as they say, Nate comparison is a thief of joy. Yeah, yeah,
that's for sure. That's her, fucking sure, Nate. In two
thousand and twelve, Dak Shepherd went vegan, but of cour
it into a little investigation, he is no longer vegan.
(20:06):
Do you think he should be punished for this? Why
or why not? And if so, what sort of punitive damages.
Would you like to see happen? I think he's got
to eat a whole tree, a tree, old dan tree, Nate,
what size tree? What sort of tree? Would talking because
(20:30):
as I don't know, that's a whole spectrum of sizes. Yeah,
we're talking a big boy, more of the big boys,
the kind of you kind of get firewood out of
oh my god, redwood. Look, he doesn't not a redwood,
but maybe like a like a like an oak or
a maple. Whoa, yeah, and it doesn't have to be
(20:50):
in one sitting. But yeah, because that could take you
many years to eat oak tree. You're gonna go back
on your work being vegan. You gotta a tone. And
the only way to a tone you gotta tree. Oh
my god, you know, I think the government should listen
to you. And also just to clarify, he's eating the tree,
(21:15):
which is a big punishment, and oak tree that seems
like a hard feat to accomplish. What is he still
eating beef and pork on the side of eating the tree. Probably? Yeah,
so you are allowing that, Yeah, he needs that energy
to eat that tree. He's gonna he's gonna have to
get a lot of beef and pork to get through
(21:39):
that tree to power. Sorry, the vegan diet is not
going to give him the strength to get that whole treated.
So and Nate, I I hate to get too personal
on here, but are you also a vegan? I'm not
a vegan, but but I do I do limit my
(22:03):
my meat intake in what in what way? Like what's
the limit? So like like I don't have like a
number on it, but I um, if there's like a
different option, I'll like, like if there's ever like a
like if I'm at a burger place and there's an
impossible burger, I'll always do the impossible burger. Or and
I don't usually buy meat at the grocery store, like
(22:25):
it's I usually it's usually just like when I go
out somewhere or like if I'm out of place that's
serving meat or whatever, I'll eat the meat, but I
try to I try to keep it, keep it like
you know limited ish. Oh my god, Nay, you are
so principal. You go to a burger place and if
they have a veggie option, you choose it the impossible burger.
(22:49):
I can't even imagine. Look, I don't want to say
that I'm the most righteous person in the world. But
but it's you know, I'm really good. But it's like, look,
if I were at a vegan place or something and
they had the impossible burger, sure, great, happy to get it,
(23:12):
you know what I mean. But if you go specifically
to a burger place and you got I mean, that
is like a lot of discipline. But also look, I
go to plenty of burger places that don't have impossible burgers,
and then I'll get the regular burger. Yeah. If if
I were you with that rule, that would be my move.
I'd be all of interesting. They don't have it here. Again,
(23:35):
I'm not like it's not like a hard rule or anything,
you know. You know, I'm just like trying that. You know,
maybe like once twice a week I'll do I'll do
a meet or something. Okay, good because if I find
out otherwise and you know what's gonna happen, I'm gonna
drop off a tree on your doorstep. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
gonna eat the whole thing. But also like, but also
(24:00):
like I just need to I just need to clarify,
like I'm fine with with people eating meat, you know,
Like I'm not, Oh, you're not. That's an important quality.
I'm not I'm not judgy about it. Like that's like
if if if we go to a burger place and
you get like a regular burger and they have an
impossible burger, I'm not going to be like a player.
(24:24):
What are you doing? Even though I made Dax eat
that tree, and Dax eat the tree, even though I
believe Dax should be punished for thirty years of eating
an oak tree, it's totally chill if you want to
just have a smash burger. Yeah. I like that. You're flexible,
(24:46):
You're chill. I love that about you. Okay, So Nate
asked previously mentioned you have a very successful long term
romantic relationship. Would you say that your connection is stronger
than that of Dax and Kristen Bell. I mean that's
(25:10):
for God to say, not me. Wow. Wow, that's powerful. Yeah,
because I think a lot of times our human minds
we want to put labels on things, we want to
we want to pit ourselves against each other. Go on
podcast where the host will make you pick yourself against
other people, and sometimes only God can decide if your
(25:32):
connection is stronger than Dax and Kristen Bell's. They you know, like,
look through this. I haven't. I haven't been inside their relationship,
so I don't. I don't know what it's like, right right,
right right, I know what I see on TV. But
let's face it, TVs TV. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna
catch I'm gonna catch heat for saying this, But dear
(25:54):
Owen Wilson Exclusive TV is freaking fake Wilson Exclusive. Oh what,
Oh my god, this sounds freaking fake. You know what's crazy?
(26:16):
Like you know that whole when that whole John Laney
thing happened, and everyone was like para social relationships, pair
of social relationships, which I had never heard that word
of my wife. I had never once in my life
heard of a para social. But I do feel sadness
(26:39):
when Hollywood couples break up and and it's not in it.
I do feel it comes from a more pure place though,
because I just have compassion, Like I was rooting for
them to work out, and I feel sadness that it
didn't work out for them, or that, you know, their
lot was love lost. That's some that's really paras social
(27:02):
of you. That's like so paras social. I do experience
sadness when I've been like, especially if they've been together
for a long time. It seems like I would in
real life if I knew someone. I feel like, I mean,
I think that's that's I think it's it's sad when
that happens to anybody. You know, Yeah, like that. It's
(27:22):
not exclusively for celebrities, So I guess it's not. I
guess it's not that para social for you. Yeah, you're right,
You're right. I'm extremely healthy, well adjusted person in Hollywood. Um. Okay,
so you're a real girl in a fake town. Okay, so, uh,
(27:44):
Nate and Carla connection stronger than Dax and Kristen Bell inconclusive?
I didn't say that. Oh sorry, you sitting conclusive? Sorry? Yeah, inconclusive. Inconclusive,
we can't determine. We don't have a measuring take a
direct measurement. Um. I mean, I'd be happy to go
on like one of those those game shows against them,
(28:08):
like a family. Few type of situations would. I would
love to see you. I was named after Nathan Lane.
Who were you named after? Look? I know you and
Steve Harvey and are closed. So you get in a column,
(28:29):
see what could happen? And see if I could make
some magic happen, because that could be one of the
greatest thirty minutes of entertainment of all time. That'd be
I mean, that'd be really incredible if that happened. If
like a celebrity couple and too absolute randos battled it
out on a popular television show, I wish I could
(28:53):
host that one too. Maybe I could stub for my
dear friends Steve Harvey be the moderator, one of my
main skills of grating. As I said, you two are close,
so I'm sure you'd let that happen. Yeah, what was
your old comedy duo's name, A couple of Nuts or something?
(29:16):
A couple of nuts. It really started because he had
the same taste in suits, and we often show up
places dressed the same. And so after a while of
like The Third Running, where Steve Harvey and I showed
up in the same suit, We're like, there's something here. Well,
you two. When you guys had your duo, he had
(29:37):
no mustache and a ton of hair. And then and
then when you guys disbanded, he needed to, like, you know,
try and stand out from his previous role. So he
shaved his head and grew the mustache, right, A lot
of people don't know that. I know. Yeah, listeners, you
are really receiving a lot of hit the toil private
(29:59):
I formation, and so I hope you know your blessed
by Nate uncovering a lot of the truth. History. History
is being revealed right now. Okay, well, so we'll put
that on my to do list to uh give old
Steve Adal. Hopefully everything's good between us, you know, even
though he has the mustache. Now, oh man, if he
(30:23):
shaved it for your for like a reunion. Yeah you
the internet? Huh what do you think that stash would
fetch you on eBay? Oh? God? People love the people
love to buy that novelty shirt, you know that, Uh,
the memorabilia. So I think it could go for a
cool mill what about you, easily, cool meal? Easily? Okay,
(30:48):
So Nate, According to Lucian Wiggles, Dox is an avid
car enthusiast and can rebuild an engine. He allegedly owned
the nine seven Lincoln Continental featured in the movie Hit
and Run, and that he races off road in his
(31:12):
free time. Nate, please tell our listeners where do you
race off road? And maybe that even means metaphorically racing
off road? Um, physically off road l A river whoa
really wow? Metaphorically off road Joan Didion books you race
(31:37):
off road? Yeah? Well, and what's your favorite Joan Didion title?
My favorite Joan Didion title is, of course, what the heck? Wise?
My computer making a typing sounds? So does heck is
making a typing sound? On and so on. It's got
(31:58):
to be nights. Okay, that's interesting. I haven't seen that one.
Um um A Blue Knight. Yeah. Well, I'd have to
(32:27):
say the only Joan Diddion title that I've raised off
road is the White Album. And if I can be
candid with you and my listeners, and I know I
can because I see you guys as my family. Uh.
The White Album was a slow start for me. It
sure didn't feel like I was raising off road at first,
(32:49):
but then things picked up when we sort of got
to Joan chronicling the Manson murders. Um, I found that
more interesting. Very austeer woman, her writing, very austere and clipped.
Is that sort of what gives you a thrill? Nate?
I mean absolutely, yeah, you nailed it. Just the extreme
(33:14):
precision and economy of language. That she employs absolutely sort
of gives you a intense thrill, like racing down the
l A River. Damn, it's like you're reading my mind
right now. I do have a highly developed intuition. And now,
what kind of vehicle are you racing down the l
(33:35):
A River? And is that legal? Are there cops down
there or isn't highly illegal? Right? Okay, so hopefully you
won't be italiing on yourself on this podcast or no
law enforcement is listening or anything like that. Oh cred
oh cred um uh um getting at Nate's starting to
(34:07):
sweat profusely, sort of buckets and it's not Nay. I
just want to know what vehicle you raced down there
illegally drag race in case the cops come. Wow wow.
And interestingly enough, because I think we have both positioned
(34:31):
ourselves as environmentalists. I also drive a Prius. Oh night,
what color white? At Yeah? Pretty close to mind silver? Yeah,
but I wouldn't call it the fastest car on the road. Interesting. Um,
(34:58):
do you ever respond to that the because I know
you did. You did tell us in your letter that
you um killed that woman on the freeway going nineties.
Oh crap, This goes out to people. This isn't a
this isn't a private conversation. It's interesting that you say that,
because I do that on podcasts all the time. I
(35:20):
forget that millions and I mean millions of people are
going to hear this because I'm just speaking from the heart,
one on one with a dear friend. You know. I like,
like almost never talk about my actual life on like
podcasts or or stand up or anything, because I'm just like,
(35:42):
I don't want people have known about me, right right.
I mean the fact that I just revealed my car
and I feel pretty vulnerable right now, murder whatever, but
people know what kind of car I drive. That is
interesting because I felt the same thing when I just
said this the year in color of my car, and
(36:03):
I was like, why did I just feel very odd
when I said that, because I was like, whoa moneybags?
I know, I know, I'm like four hundred dollars away
from paying it off. Um No, but I feel like
the opposite. I already feel like I've revealed since I've
(36:24):
been in comedy, since I start a comedy, I've revealed,
and my comedy my stand up is very revealing too,
which sometimes feels very draining, and then I have to
go the next material. Following that, I'll go like completely absurd,
like revealing nothing about myself to balance it out. Whatever,
(36:46):
whatever the joke is, you know, that's what my life is.
My life is whatever, whatever the joke I write has
to be. Yeah, So like, look some some some sets
I'm single, some sets i'm I'm I have a girlfriend,
some sets are married, some sets I have children, like
just and there's but there is this weird like there's
(37:08):
this weird moment where I once I did a show
and I like, uh, I think my family came to
it and in the and I just had I had
a bunch of jokes about like I'm I'm single now
and that, and then my my parents were like when
when did you when? When did you guys break When
(37:29):
did you Cali breakout? Like she's here, you're sitting with her.
It's so funny. And it was this very strange realization
where I'm just like, oh, when you say something on stage,
people are just like, all right, that's that's real. Nate
for a old of the Nathan Lane lineage, just a
chronic liar on stage. So there's there's dozens of strangers
(37:56):
out there who who were like, Wow, this guy's bean
has fell off the toilet. No, you're one of my
favorite stand ups to watch. Yeah, Like I wish I
(38:16):
got to be on shows with you more often. Um, truthfully,
no one gets to them superstar. I haven't done stand
up and like like two years. That's a goddamn tragedy.
That upsets me. I don't want that for the public
because you're depriving them. But I did start a band,
(38:39):
So if that ain't a mid life crisis, I don't
know what is. Are you lying right now? Are being serious?
Because I'm so sorry? This is serious? Wait? What kind
of band? What you started it? How did this originate?
What happened? Uh? Just me one of my co workers.
We're gonna just like play our guitars after work one day.
And then another coworker was like, um, hey, my husband
(39:03):
plays the drums and doesn't have anyone to play with.
Can he come? And I was like, guy I've never met,
sounds good. Sure, And then and then he was like
I have a friend who plays the bass, and I
was like, another guy I've never met, sounds good. And
then uh, and then we all met up and everyone
got along great. And now we have a band called Crub.
Oh my god. So you have a four piece band
(39:26):
basically the late Late Show band and it's called Crub.
And what kind of music is it? And what is
your position in the band. It's rock and roll music.
And I'm a guitar and lead vocals. You're a big jogger. Yep, yep.
I'm not very good at guitar or singing, but whatever,
(39:47):
I'm just there to have a good time. Hell yeah,
I love that attitude. If we could all access that,
you want to have fun a fun Crub fact, please,
I'd love to. Our name was chosen by Mark McGrath
of the band's Sugar Ray. What how so we couldn't
We were having trouble settling on a name we had.
We had like a whole list of names, we couldn't
(40:08):
pick one. So on my birthday the other guys got
a cameo from Mark McGrath where they sent him all
the names and had him pick one for us. That's hilarious.
What a genius idea. If you ever need something decided arbitrated,
to contact Mark McGrath. I just want to say he
was great. He went above and beyond in this cameo.
(40:30):
He did like way more than he was contracted for,
and he really did a great job. He was charismatic
and then at the end he played an acoustic rendition
of I Just Want to Fly and it was like
it was just it's it's such a it's a cherished video.
I have it downloaded onto my phone, like because I
don't want to risk not having a signal and wanting
(40:53):
to watch it. So like it's it is on my phone.
That's so important. I often find myself in that situation
where I didn't think ahead because I don't understand technology,
where I tried to play a video and I can't
because I'm in the sky or something. Yeah, that's why
I've got I got, I got the Mark McGrath video
and Charlie bit my finger on my phone at all times. Wow,
(41:17):
that is so incredible and so God A lifetime of
life has been lived since I last saw you. I mean,
you started a four piece band. It was named by
Mark McGrath. You were bitten by a demonic bug that
tried to take you from this earth in the woods
(41:38):
when you were innocently just trying to spend time with
your family. Wow, God, it's just been too long. Oh,
the last time I saw you was when I did
stand up for but we barely got to talk and then.
But but even before that, it was probably a very
long time before that. Yeah, I think the last time
(41:59):
I saw you was on that show we did Faded
right before the pandemic, Like it was like a week
or two before everything shut down. That was the last
time I did stand up. WHOA, that's crazy you witnessed it. Yeah. Wow.
I mean, I'm thankfully you started a band, but I
want you to do stand up again. Yeah, I'll do it.
(42:19):
I'll do it again. I feel like maybe we should
do a show together. I feel like we should do
something together. We don't have to talk about it now. Yeah,
that'd be a freaking blast. Oh, I did do well.
So I've done a couple of shows. So you know
Zach Brizard. Yeah. So we me and Zach have a
sketch group called the Boo Boys. Oh yeah, I was
(42:41):
trying to go to that and I couldn't because I
had my own show because I was like dying to
go to that that night. No, dang, it was. It
was a great time. So so, like, like you know,
some I still do look, I'm still doing live comedy.
But yeah, So like it's kind of funny because when
we first did the Boo Boys show, the first one
we did, it was like the whole the whole bit
(43:02):
of the show is so we we we only do
Halloween themes sketch comedy, and that the whole bit of
the show is that we're these like these two, these
two comedians who moved to l A and we we
only do Halloween themes sketch comedy, and we and we
can't find work and people keep offering us jobs, but
(43:22):
they asked us to write non Halloween comedy and we
say and we say, no, we won't do it, and
then we're and then and then and we only get
to perform once a year on Halloween, and we're just like,
why aren't our careers going on? Dang, And so the
whole thing is just like, yeah, imagine if like these
two losers moved to l A and then only did
(43:44):
a show on Halloween and refused to do any non
Halloween comedy and then just like the way the pandemic
worked out, It's kind of the old show I've done
is this Halloween show every year. So it's like it
like became a prophecy, and now we are two guys
who only do Halloween theme that's metal as hell. Yeah,
(44:07):
I love that. God, I have to make it this year. Honestly,
I'll cancel whatever I'm going to make it to go
see the Boo Boys. Great. Well, we're hoping this year
to do like like a run of of of like several,
like a few nights maybe. Thank god. It's like like
because the the we've only vote done one night of
the show, and you know, it's pretty pretty pretty limited event.
(44:30):
You know, a lot of people who wanted to go
couldn't go, right because it's only once a year. Yeah,
a year. That's how you make demand for something. Well,
I should have just learned a lot about business and demand.
I did you just do one episode of this podcast? Yeah,
you're right. Oh my god, why didn't I think of that? Yeah,
(44:52):
just a slow one episode every year. That's really funny.
Um okay. Well, according to Lucian Wiggles, Dox apparently was
involved in the Ground Links Theater with a class of
Melissa McCarthy, Fortune fem Sir Tay Taylor and that facts
(45:14):
in Nate. If you were also a member of the
ground Links in the nineties. Please tell us who you
think your class would have been. Do they have few
people who went to the Groundlings? You know, the questions
open to your interpretation of who you really think would
have been there with you. I'm gonna be honest. I
think it would have just been me and French Stewart. Okay, yeah, yeah, no,
(45:38):
Thank you for your honesty, because that is something that
we really do ask of our guests. Were just the
two of us, the two of us, we would have
been in a class with other people, and then me
and him would have such intense chemistry that the other
people in the class would just slowly start leaving, leaving
because they were like, this is we don't have a
(46:01):
place in this class while these two are here. Wow,
because too much connection, too much star power in one place. Yeah,
linked up, too powerful. Yeah, it's interesting. I can see
that dynamic. I was watching The New Kardashians, their new
show on Hulu last night, and it was the episode
where Courtney and Travis Barker get engaged and Travis has
(46:26):
four kids and Courtney has three kids, and they can't
stop making out or like touching in front of everyone,
and I was just thinking the kids. What would you
do if you were those kids, Like you're just boxed
out by your parents makeout but their connection was too powerful. Yeah, man,
(46:47):
that's weird, Like I get I get uncomfortable like my
parents hug. Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking about it from
that angle. That's got to be hard. But you know,
as you said, like you in French Stewarts, sometimes it
just goes that way. Yeah. Yeah. The rest of the
(47:08):
class would have felt like Travis Barker and Courts Courting
is that the one? Yeah, okay, the whole class would
have felt like their kids. Definitely, definitely okay on Nate
and please can you imagine rich kids at the groundlings.
(47:34):
I wonder who my class would be. Oh man, in
the nineties, I don't know. Maybe Eddie peppertone in me. Yeah, yeah,
that's a great matchup. Eddie Vevtol my favorite comic. I
gotta have him on here. He's my it's such a
one of the best parts about moving to l A
(47:55):
is that we became friends. He's so funny. Yeah, I so,
I've never asked someone to take a picture with me
that I don't know, and he's the one person in
my life. We became friends after, but like I always
think I was so nervous to ask him to take
a picture with me because I was just like obsessed
with him. Have you seen his special? No I've not.
(48:18):
Oh god, Nate, you got it. I think it's on
Amazon Prime. I of course was there for the live taping,
but uh, it is just I've never laughed that hard
in my life. I I've only gotten like two pictures
with people in in my life or like you know,
(48:38):
like performers that I'm a fan of, which is crazy
because you meet so many celebrities at your job every
day and then so like so one was like one
was at work, it was it was Henry Winkler and
I'm I'm such a big fan, and he was like
he was in like a sketch that I wrote, and
he was just like so funny and great and um
(49:01):
and I never would have asked for a photo, but um,
like what one of my co workers was there and
was like it was like, can we get a photo?
And like brought me into it and then I was
like cool, so like someone else did it and I
got it. Oh. I love when someone else takes the
fall for you. It's so good. I'm very glad it
happened because like you know that. And then then the
(49:23):
other one, this is a very obscure one. There's this
Australian band called the Go Betweens that's like one of
my favorite bands, favor bands of all time. How do
you know about how do you find out about them?
I'm just like a dork who like digs for like
weird old bands like on the internet and stuff and
(49:45):
goes to like record stores and do you have a
record per Oh, I see one? I think behind you?
Um yeah, yeah, I think yeah, it's right there. There's
also do you play do you play those a lot? Oh? Yeah?
Also I got a CD player to five just change
or not brag? Oh my god, braggy rich rich five
(50:06):
to CD player? Oh shit? Hey wait, So you saw
the guy from the goal between so so basically so
they broke up in like the nineteen eighties, and there's
two there's two guys in the band, and one of
them died maybe like ten years ago or something, and
then the other guy did a solo tour which like
(50:30):
he and he came into to it. He did a
show in l A and like the last time he
was in l a was something like fifteen years earlier
or something like that, and he's I think he's like
in his seventies now or something. And I was at
the show and I was just like, oh, I will
probably never see him perform again, like just like statistically, yeah,
(50:52):
yeah yeah. And then I was just like, I guess,
I guess I got to just get a picture. So
I did, so I did. Wow, is it framed? It's not.
It's just like on my phone, which is it's just
your phone background. I'm such a boring phone person. That's good.
Phones are ruining our society and particularly me and my
(51:15):
brain and soul. Oh well, okay, those are two really
good ones. I got like no apps on my phone. Nay,
you're so pure. I just have like functional apps and
it's just like there's like nothing fun on my phone,
and i'd like and I don't even have like cool picks.
Yeah right, I don't believe any of this. Do you
think I was born yesterday? You told me everyone in
(51:36):
Hollywood is fake? Um? I know that you meet so
many people because at the Late Late Show, like you've
met at probably every celebrity ever. Um, not that many,
to be honest. Well, because I don't meet the celebrity
unless they're specifically in a thing I'm working on. Oh okay,
(52:01):
and there's like eleven writers on staff. There's like two
head writers. There's also producers and stuff. So sometimes like
unless it's like a heavily scripted thing like a sketch. Um,
if it's just like a thing where it's like, hey,
you're gonna be on the couch and you're gonna play
this game or whatever, sometimes like the producer will brief
them on it and I won't even like come in contact, right,
(52:24):
So it's like it's only when they're in a sketch
that I wrote specifically. So it's like when you look
at like eleven writers on the show, twelve or twelve
however many and you know, and we don't do sketches
that often, so it's like those are pretty few and
far between. So it's really only like a handful of
celebs I meet every year. Who's the most beautiful person
(52:46):
you've ever seen? There? M hmmm mm hmm. It's I mean,
it's hard to say. I will say, when you see
a celebrity in person, it is shocking, Like I don't
know if it's because you've seen them on televisions in
the movies so much. But when you like, like there'll
(53:08):
be a celebrity that like, I don't know, maybe I'm
not like like oh I'm I'm so into this celeb
and then they'll like walk by at the show and
like I will like be like yeah, It's like like
something about seeing them in person is just like, well,
they don't look like regular people. They look like alien beautiful. Yeah.
(53:31):
When they're in movies, like they're surrounded by other beautiful people,
so it's just like like so they look somewhat normal
by comparison, and then when you see them like and
just an environment full of regular people, it's just like, oh,
that's that's why they like put this person on a big,
giant screen for all to see. Like it's yeah. Also,
(53:54):
and then those like big time actors or musicians where
they also just have a star power that's like startling. Yeah.
What time I was as in the same room as
Paul McCartney for like six seconds and it was it
was weird, big energy, it was yeah, history like there's this.
(54:17):
They were basically they were filming something and he basically
had to just like you know, step into a room
and like look around and then leave the room. And
I was just like one of the people they put
in that room. And then they were just like, you know,
when he comes in, just like, you know, don't don't
bother or don't ask for pictures or anything. And then
what he came. But I just was joking, like to
(54:37):
one of my co workers. I kept going, hey, paup
Hey pap the Beetles, being told not to say anything
to Paul McCartney and just saying the Beatles, Oh I
(54:59):
wanted to do. You're such a little rascal. I have
a little rascal. You're a little rascal. And uh god,
I've gotten so much information, including a murder confession, out
of you. It's been really good. Um, we are unfortunately
at our last question. I cannot even believe it. Um.
This is not a slight on either person, but a
(55:21):
completely subjective opinion, So please feel free to answer, frankly,
who do you think is aging better? Doak Shepherd or
Joe Biden? I mean, given that they're the same age,
Dak Shepherd. Yeah, well that you can expect that quote
(55:47):
to be a headline in the post tomorrow. Joe Biden's
like fifty. That's gonna cause some ways, but you know
that's why people tune into the Sorry, sorry, I'm gonna
bring all this heat to your but you know what,
I'm sick of being quiet about it. Joe Biden is
(56:09):
fifty two, and if the woke mob wants to come
after me and say that he's a different age, go ahead.
Oh my god, Well my heart stopped on that one
because of just you know, you're sort of devil make
care attitude and real just loves a fair attitude towards consequence. Yeah,
(56:34):
you know the how the truth is so important to me.
You I have always called you a truth teller. Yeah, yeah,
and um, the people got to know that Joe Biden two. Well, okay,
that conclude our main interview. And while there was what
a roller coaster Fox God, I'm just catching my breath
(56:58):
after that one. Okay, we do like to conclude our
interview with one special segment called fan on the Street,
and if you could just sort of regale us, so
(57:21):
I know you have. We did speak about all of
your celebrity encounters, but maybe you just have sort of
a fun celebrity anecdote encounter off the top of your
head that might be fun for us. I do. I do. Actually,
um so, my first big time job was writing for
(57:41):
the Pete Home Show, Um, the talk show he had,
which was produced by Conan, And it was like Conan's
follow up show. And Conan is like my like number
one idol, like just just crazy about Conan. Like I wouldn't.
I wouldn't if it wasn't for Conan, you wouldn't even
know me, Blair, I would have been then I would
(58:03):
have been like a like a computer programmer or something
like that programmer. So, um, we're so. Conan was like
executive producer of The Pete Home Show. And then the
first day um were that we started, Conan came into
(58:25):
the writer's room and just kind of like sat down
and talked to us for a minute, and he sat
right next to me on the couch and I was
just like I was just like, oh my god, like
it was. It was the most just like wild, surreal
moment that's ever happened. And then he um, he said,
(58:45):
you know, I'm gonna give you guys the advice that
Johnny Carson gave me when I started hosting Late Night.
And I was just like, oh my god. Conan O'Brien
is about to relay advice from Johnny Carson to me, like,
this is the most insane thing that has ever happened,
Like I cannot believe this is happening. And then he's like,
(59:08):
and that's what he said. I can't wait to see
what you guys come up with. I think it shows
to be great. And I was just like, oh my god,
what did he say? Like I completely missed what he said.
I was just like so like in shock the moment,
I didn't hear what he said, Oh my god. And
then he like and then he left the room, and
I was too embarrassed to be like, what did he say?
(59:29):
So he still to this day, I still don't know,
and I should probably ask. I should probably ask the
other writers now at the time, you have to like today,
because I need to know. Now, Okay, I will. I'll
send some texts out. Wow, that's really powerful though, and
then we could do a follow up Patreon bonus episode.
So I know you don't know you don't have a Patreon,
(59:51):
but so far, so far, Bla, we've had a few
Patreon bonus episode opportunities here, so you and I can
just do a Patriot h thy God, it's been such
a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on to
see you. And I'm going to see you soon so
(01:00:12):
we can, you know, get to work on whatever we're
gonna do. I can't wait. I'm so excited. Yes, okay,
thank you. Having a week everyone, M
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