June 27, 2022 • 55 mins
Blair welcomes her dear friend, Zach Noe Towers (Dating #NoFilter, Dear White People, JFL) to the podcast. He comes on to profess his love to a certain teen sensation from childhood.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello everyone, and welcome back to another stunning episode of
the Dear Owen Wilson Podcast. I am so happy to
be with you again. Oh it's thrilling. We're moving into summer,
my favorite time of year. And yeah, this has just
been so fun. So thank you guys for showing your
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a thing. Tuning in your ears, tuning in your motherfucking ears. Yes, baby,
I am grateful, I am happy. And you know what,
this episode is no exception. I have my dear friend
Zach Nelly Towers on the podcast. You may know him
from being on the E Network stating No Filter and
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you can be seen in this upcoming season of Dear
White People on Netflix. He's so funny. I just adore
him like I He's one of those comedians when they're
on stage, um, you come back in the room to
watch them. And yeah, I'm just thrilled to have him
on the podcast. So follow him at Zach Noey Towers
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z A c h n O E t O w
e r s on Twitter and Instagram. He's hilarious and
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very week. Welcome back to the deer o In Wilson Podcast.
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Lady Earls the Blair sucky. Guess what everyone is very
in l A. I seem to be tired and loopy.
So let's see how this one is gonna go. Because
I'm feeling real sally real, whack a doodle. But do
I have a treat for you guys today, My dear fans,
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my followers all around the entire globe, even intergalactically. I
know millions and millions of you tune into this podcast,
and I just want to thank you because your valued here.
You're welcome here always. Yeah, that's my problem is to you. Okay,
you guys. This next guest that I have brought to
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you today is such a huge get for our podcast.
Oh my god. He is a dream. He is a
machine is a comedy tycoon, a movie writer, someone I
look up to and always share a good laugh with.
Oh my god, okay, here, what do you do out
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come to the show, my dear friends, Zack no eat towers,
comedy tycoon here reporting for duty. God, it's so about
to see you, to be with you. I know, I
wish we were in the flesh so we could um
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rub our like hot, sweaty bodies all over one another.
I wish that too. That would sound so good to me.
How have you been, Zack? It's really it's been too
long for us for my taste. For it's been way
too long for my taste. We have no real excuse.
You actually called me out of the blue not too
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long ago, and it was like it made my like week,
do you remember. That's so kind of you to say,
because I was just enjoyed a chatting with you. It
was like truly highlight and I walked away going, oh
my god, I love her, Like that was just it.
It's like, well, I don't know, calls. Phone call seems
so vintage these days that like to get a call
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that's not like a family member dying or like a
doctor like telling you test results like it was refreshing.
That's so good. I'm so glad because you know, I'm
walking all these miles around Los Angeles a lot of time,
and most of the time I just preferred to be quiet.
But everyone I think of a dear loved one and
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I say, you know what, I need to ring them
right now. Nothing is going to get in the way
of me calling up my motherfucking friend Zach. It paid off.
It was such a high payoff. Yeah, but I'm good.
I'm good. I'm currently in Joshua Tree. It's very hot,
but I'm inside in air conditioning, which I love. I
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can't recommend air conditioning enough. If you are, if you've
been thinking about trying it, go for it, splurge, get
the air conditioning. Oh god, I to get a conditioning.
So funny that you bring that up while we have
so much in common. Wow. Okay, Well, I guess we'd
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better get into it because I know we could catch
up for days if you could do the honors of
reading your letter. We like to jump into it without
any reveals. Oh okay, so I'm not saying to it
who it's too No, you are just as you're reading it. Yeah,
just no discussion beforehand about who got it? Got it?
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Got it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Okay. Dear Jonathan Taylor Thomas Wow,
voice of Simba, creator of the butt Cut, and fire
starter of my Raging homosexuality? How can I possibly thank you?
From the moment I saw you on Home Improvement, I
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knew something was up. While your Republican TV dad, Tim
Allen pounded nails, I yearned for you to pound me.
And that was years before I even knew what hounding was.
Home improvement more like homo improvement. Am I right? Your
voice alone made an animated lion seem beyond fuckable, and
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your portrayal of Tom or Huck in Tom and Huck
I don't remember which part you played would surely have
made Mark Twain's gay ass proud. And while you obviously
played an integral role in my sexual awakening, I had
no reason to believe we could ever actually be together.
That was until when you played a bisexual sex worker
in the Straight to VHS feature Speedway Junkie. Do you
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remember that? I know? I didn't until I googled you,
which maybe I shouldn't have done so instead of googling
J T. T recent The next time I'm feeling nostalgic
and horney. I'll just toss in my DVD copy of
Home for the Holidays and touch myself like a true
child of the nineties. Love Zach, Oh Zack. Wow, that
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was so heartwarming, go on, what a letter love it?
Was it too horny? Absolutely not. It can never be
horny enough for this show. Oh my god. All that
I asked, My guess is that they bring rigorous honesty,
candid truth, frankness, and boy did you bring the ezack?
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Was JTT a part of your sexual awakening? Oh? Big time?
Like yeah, I was so into him around Huckleberry Finn time,
like those lips, that long thick hair, you know. And honestly,
those were the times, like before the Internet, where it
was like there was a frenzy worked up with like
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girlhood um around someone just sort of based who was
on like magazine covers. Yes, yes, very like you only
saw him for a half hour a week, and it
was like, I can't wait to see my teeth boyfriend.
Yes see, that's what we're missing now now with like
we're missing that that like we don't even get a
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chance to look forward to anything because we're so oversaturated
with Internet culture. Did we just vow to get rid
of social media? Is that what just happened? Yeah, well
I sort of do touch on that quite often as
my fans around the globe and even intergalactically. No, I am.
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I do not condone social media. I wanted to be
abolished and eradicated and actually maybe even the entire Internet
now that I think about it. But yeah, those I
missed those times that like yearning like that you could
you just like wait for Home Improvement to come on? Yes, yes, absolutely,
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Like when I also remember, like I feel like there
were only ever like five movies out at a time,
Like they gave us like five to ten movies a year,
and like that was it. Like now there's like a
new movie or TV show like every single day. It's
like slow down, you're moving too fast. Yeah, And there's
like rarely stars anymore, just because the sheer magnitude of
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the amount of shows on that, Like there's so many
people that have like big time acting jobs on shows
where you've never ever seen them in your life. The
entire careers or people on YouTube have like twenty six
million followers and I've never seen them before in my life.
Oh right, but don't you think that the YouTube generation
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is like below us? But maybe not, you know, no
one really knows. Yeah, then you see like four year
old men and they're like, I watched you on this podcast,
and I'm like, what, you watched me on a podcast?
You know? So I guess those people like YouTube or something,
is what I'm saying. Yes, that makes sense. That checks
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out well, Zach. I don't know if you remember this
from your illustrious appearance on the Live show, which you did.
Remind me was multiple times that DEMI a more attended
But I do conduct my shrewd interviews with the help
of my private detective, Lucien Wiggles. Do you remember Lucien Wiggles.
(10:24):
I remember being very intimidated by Lucian Wiggles, right, And
I think you're right to feel that way, because that
is how all my guests feel. And that's because Lucien
does not take it easy on anyone. He really goes
hard in the pain as he helps me write a
lot of these questions. And if you are ever you know, shaken,
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slash offended by any of the questions, Lucian did right
that one. So just just a pleasant remind you Okay,
let's get started. Yes, are you ready? Yes? I submit? Yeah,
I love to submit. Um okay, here we go. In
m nine nine, j T. T left Home Improvement so
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he could focus on his studies. Um okay. Um as
in he left his prime give working with no other
than Tim Allen in the height of his success, to
focus on school. As a comedian who has never worked
with Tim Allen, how does that make you feel? And
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do you agree with JD t s choice to leave
Home Improvement to study, you know, to study this ass Maybe? Um?
I don't. I don't. I of course don't think anyone
should ever try to put knowledge in front of humor.
(11:55):
Um I I want to stay like, you know, dumb
and funny until the day they lower my body into
the ground. WHOA, that's so pure. But um I support
him getting kind of far away from Tim the Toolman Taylor. Yeah,
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is he us TV Dad? You want him away from him? Yeah?
Like JTC is too pure of heart, Like Tim Allen
was probably trying to make him do cocaine and like
vote Republican and all sorts of other like malignant things
off camera. That was the vibe. I was getting malignant.
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That's the word for it. You know, it's crazy to me.
What's always painful? It is like I really, and I
mean really liked the Santa Claus movies. Still like Santa
Claus one. You can't touch it. It's so good. I
mean that movie took me away. It did. It did
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when it dispensed the best looking hot chocolate and warmest
chocolate ate cookie. It was. It was the creamiest looking
hot chocolate I've ever seen in my life. It's so
funny that you re count that exact detail, because when
I do think about it now what you're saying, I
have never seen hot chocolate look more delectable than in
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that film. No, okay, you know what the only other
food that rivals it, the only other movie food. I'm
gonna let you maybe take us take a guess. Oh god,
what is it? Is it not factory? Oh that's a
great guess. And we're gonna like that's I acknowledge how
brave you are to say that it was a great guess.
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I it's the it's the imaginary food in Hook. Oh
my god, it's so funny that you say that, because
I have a joke about that. The food and Hook
I want to eat it. Yeah, I mean there's nothing. Especially,
it's even more heightened because they're so hungry and they
have when it appears, you're just holy ship. They did
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the same thing in the Harry Potter movies where they
made it appear out of thin air when all the
kids are like hungry waiting at the tables. Yes, but
there was like that fluff, like that marshmallow cream that
they colored stuff that doesn't exist in nature. You know
what I mean that? Boy, do I know? It does
not exist in nature? Yeah. When I would see those movies,
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I was like a little trouble like sugar obsessed, compulsive
eater as a child, where I would like hunt and
gather like sugar from my home and hoard it under
my bed so that I could eat it in private,
like and I'd watch the other I was just watch
those movies and dream and I'd be like, why am
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I hearing this boring life? Why can I be? Why
can I be in the chocolate factory? That's where I'm
supposed to be. Veruca Salty, my asked for some ship.
You are Veruca Salt. And as we're talking about food,
I loved your hour on Food so much, and I
think I'm nice, and I hope that's so crazy. It's
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crazy that you were there because I only performed at
the one time. Oh girl, let's go to Edinburgh. Let's
get shows and go to Edinburgh. That was the point
of me writing it was to go to Edinburgh with it.
Now I use like, when I'm doing an hour headlining,
I'll use fifteen minutes of it. But besides that, like,
I feel like I could go back now and make
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it so much better do it. It was so good.
It's very kind of you to say, and it was
kind of you to even attend on that night. And
I won't forget it, especially now that I've been reminded.
It's sticking with me forever. Okay, we do have to
continue on because I need to know every nook and
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cranny about your relationship with Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Okay, here
we go. Um. I think we concluded that we don't
agree with jtts choice to leave Woman Improvement to study.
He was supposed to remain hot and dumb. Okay, JTT
voice Simba as a cub in The Lion King, as
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we mentioned. As you mentioned, do you ever act like
a small animal in your own life? If so, why
or why not? Um? You know, in the gay community,
I am known as an otter, dear Wilson exclusive. Yes,
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I love honors exactly so, and I think, oh, is
there a different kind? I don't know, the gate the
gay you don't like, okay, homophobic, don't This is the
first time hearing about an honor. Okay, sorry, I feel
like I'm nineties seven years old. Please enlighten me, honestly, Blair.
(17:02):
There's no reason you should know what an honor is,
truly none. Um. But yeah, I I know we don't
use the term spirit animal, but whatever animal you have
like a bond with um, I do think I have
that with otters and they are do you know stuff
about honors? No, I'm just enjoying this so much because
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I also love honors. Like me and Rosebuds send an
honor videos back and forth to each other, and you know,
like Rosebud like would kick a baby. She's like the
most hardcore bitch in the world, and like it's just
so funny like where she's she's even soft on honns.
They are, okay, you know then obviously they hold each
other's arms when they sleep, literally, like that's the stuff
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like I want to see that couple in the Titanic,
you know, like holding pause as the ship goes down. Um,
so you believe in true love, then in in the
hotter community. Okay, but do you mind if you could
enlighten me what makes you an hotter in the gay
community or what makes anyone an honor? To my knowledge,
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it is a slim, hairy guy. And I have like
very nice like chest hair, like I've a little pelt
and like a little tummy of chest hair. Can I
tell you that I love chest hair on men? Dude?
It's like, I'm sorry, it's alpha vibes and I've got
him to spare. Yeah, yeah you do. And I'll agree
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with that. Um, and I will say, if you're an honor,
I like honors, baby, But I did one time an
ex boyfriend who shaved his chest and I was like
it grossed me out so much. I was like, you
have to stop that. Now, you have to stop the
chest shaving. I love a hairy man. Why. I mean
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the chest is like okay, I accept, Like maybe you
don't want it on your shoulders, maybe you don't want
it on your back, Maybe you don't want it like
neck up dangling out of your nose. Yeah, chest is
like so like Tarzan Caveman, you know, like me want them? Yeah, woman,
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I like it. Okay, So that's crazy. Now I just learned.
I was, I have been educated. What an r is? Yeah,
I like them? Okay. So wait, so do you so
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you act like an honor? Then? Do you ever act
like a small animal in your own life? I mean, um,
I think maybe I move about the world like an otter,
like very like, um, fun to watch, maybe a little aggressive,
don't approach me suddenly? Um, you know, vicious cute, cute
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cute and vicious cute and vicious. Love that okay, yes,
um okay, so j T T. According to Lucian Wiggles,
j T T is quoted as saying I never took
fame seriously too seriously. It was a great time period
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in my life, but it doesn't define me. When I
think back on the time, I look at it with
a wink. I focused on the good moments I had,
not that I was on a lot of magazine covers. Zach,
why can't you be that humble? And do you also
take fame so seriously? Um? I think I'd be doing
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the world a disservice if I was that stupidly humble.
I agree. I think the world needs to see really
obnoxiously proud gay otters like shining, like as shiny as
their pelts. Um, and uh, fame is okay, So I
will agree with JDT. I don't think fame is like
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the most important thing, but success is very important. I
love that. And so I just think are our our
fame is like it's coming whether we want it or not. So, um,
I just hope not to be I guess ob noxious
about it. And um, yeah, I don't know. Talk to
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me when I'm on my my tenth issue of Tiger
Beat magazine, Tiger Be Oh god, I is to fuck
with Tiger by Rub Rub on that magazine as much
as you need, like, uh, lots of lots of fold outs,
you know, like posters. I remember the fold outs. It
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was so good to us, Yes, it was. Wait what
about you? How? How how about you? And being humble?
And um, I go back and forth, like sometimes I'll
catch myself in my life being ridiculously humble in a
way that I don't like, just in the way that
you're saying. And other times, you know, I can be
just ferociously confident in a way that I wish to be,
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you know, well, I mean serious answer is, of course,
like humble is so hot when someone's humble, Like that's hot,
Like the fact that JTT Like I don't know if
he actually was that way, but if he is that way,
like that's sexy. Like he's not like snorting coke, you know,
ditching interviews, like knocking people down at Shateau Marmont. He's like, oh, like,
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I'm just an actor, you know. Aren't you mad that
we didn't get to have that time in our lives
where we were just like falling over people at Chateau
Marma and like, you know, we were getting into a
black suv and they have a picture of my vagina
and you know, your eyes are closed, like with your
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shoulder on my on me. Stick with me for a second,
I say, we do that in our eighties, Okay, but
no one's gonna care. Yes they will if if Blair
at eight one is flashing her pussy outside of Horma,
are you kidding? If Betty White started flashing her shaw
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saw all around town, we'd all be We'd all be
glued to the screen. Remember God, Betty White was sucking
rad like, oh god, remember when they had those pussy
shots like constantly. Yes, I think it was just because
the paparazzi at that time period in the early odds
was just so vicious to women, and like, don't you
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think I think maybe the first one, yes, but I
think it might have been a tactic for some people,
right right, And then they got wise and they were like, oh,
here's a flash. Yeah, I mean like, oh, wait, what's
your take on that? I like, I I've never had
a vagina and I've never been attacked by paparazzi, So
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maybe I'm not the right person to ask, But would
do you think it's out of the rama possibility that
like a young Starlett would be like, yeah, I'll flash
my my vagina for some press or no. I don't know,
because I'm uh, just freakishly naive about these things, because
there's some like that's so hard for me to believe.
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I'm sure it's true, but I to wrap my brain
around that that someone would want that is so difficult.
I don't know. It's like I still and like I
used to watch a lot of Kardashians where I always
thought Chris had the best personality of all of them.
It's still to this day, I don't know if I
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believe that Chris released Kim's sex tape and everyone's like,
you're insane. She did, she did, she released it, she did,
and are denying the truth of what is I mean?
I love that you're a naive personally. It gets me
into trouble a lot of the time. But I don't know.
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That just seems crazy. I can't believe that a mother
would want to do that. And then I feel like,
I know Chris from the TV. She's my Chris. She
wouldn't do that. She's not a mom, she's a manager.
Oh god, yeah, I could get eaten up by this
business having it though. Okay, But the thing is, you
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have people like Rosebud who will literally decapitate someone if
they if they hurt you, do you know what I mean? True,
that's true. It's funny that I'm like twice the size
of her. Honestly, if you aren't reminded me of that,
I was like, Rosebud's probably like six three six four,
you know, Like that's just like the energy that is
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the energy love her. We both love her. Um. Okay,
So according to Lucien. Jonathan Taylor Thomas does not like
the nickname j T. T. He quote unquote doesn't understand
why people just can't say his whole name, Zack. Do
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you also become filled with rage when people don't say
your full name. No, it's like if my if my
essence is passing people's lips, Mama's happy, Mama's call me
whatever you want, call me Zach flow e powers, call
me that gay guy, call me whatever you want, um
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And like Jonathan J. T. Teach, I'm gonna I'm sorry,
but shut up. That is so I don't understand why
John Nothing Taylor Thomas. It's seven syllables. Who has We're
saying l O L, we're saying l m al, we
are saying b RB like we are not saying your
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whole name. There's no reason. Yeah, yeah, that's really funny.
I do think it's interesting when people just don't want
their nickname that everyone calls them. But I also like,
I don't mind when people mispronounce my name because I
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know that I have no power over that and people
are like, well, because I always think it's crazy when
someone's gotten matter like about me mispronouncing their name or
something which happens when you're like bringing someone on stage
and stand up or whatever. I always asked beforehand. But
you know, I don't care if someone mispronounced my name
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and people will be like, that's low self esteem, and
I'm like, no, it's just like it has nothing to
do with me. It's outside of me. It literally you
hit the nail on the head. It has nothing to
do with you. If anything, they just look stupid to
an audience of people, do you know what I mean?
So it's like they should maybe feel I would never
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put it on them to feel bad, but like I
humbly invite you to feel bad if you want to
hear what I mean, Like like I say my name,
I don't care, Like I'm still who I know my name?
You know, Like, yeah, I know your name, I know
my name. We know each other's names, you know what.
That's it. That's what it matters. If I ever meet him,
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I think, what would you say? Like I think I
would say hello Jonathan, or would you say hello Jonathan Taylor?
I would go Mr Taylor Thomas, so good to see
you closed and out of my dreams, so horrible to
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see you with clothes on? Wait, so is no, even
not your middle name like our people are three name people?
Is that like their last name? I'm confused. No, no,
he's my middle name. Oh okay, okay, okay, well and okay,
I don't know if Lucian did this, um this deep dive.
(29:15):
His real name is not Jonathan Taylor Thomas. It's Jonathan
Taylor like Weisler or something. Yeah, and um, he derived
his Jonathan is his real first name, his real middle name,
and then his last name. Thomas is his brother's middle name. Hello, sketchy,
that's talented, Mr Ripley ship. Yeah. And only the one
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and only Lucian Wiggles is the only one to get
to the bottom of that Daryl and Wilson exclusive. Um. Yeah,
but we get into it here. We it's a no
holds bar type of operation. Ah. So moving on. Um,
we have concluded you do not become filled with rage
when people don't say a full name. Um. According to
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Lucian Wiggles, J T. T S character's name was Randy
any human improvement? Did you remember that his name was Randy?
You know now that you say it, I could have.
I never forgot, but yes I did, because I forgotten
and I was like, oh good, looking up, lucian um,
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and so yes you do. Would consider yourself randy for
j T T at the height of his fame, would you?
And please answer carefully because we are asking if you
were horny for a child? Um, okay, okay, your honor.
First of all, um, I too was a child, and
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j T T at the time and to this day
is older than me. So by being part of my fantasies,
j T T was actually the pedophile in this situation.
Oh my god, whoa that was like goodwill hunting math problem. Wow. Wow,
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Lucien came for you and you turned it right on
his head. Yes I did. Okay, I know my rights.
I know my rights. He knows he's right. And now
we are learning in real time that JT T is
actually a pedophile. Oh MoMA's cough is back. Um, that's
(31:35):
so funny. Do you think he listens to every podcast
that mentions him. He's definitely gonna listen to this one
because it is so internationally known and intergalactically. This is
like the podcast of Rick and Morty. This is like
Rick and Morty is like official podcast. Oh yeah, A
lot of those in sales love listening to this. Oh
(32:03):
my god, be it no, I love Okay, so it's
heating up and here a good thing. You got that condition.
He's Zack. Next question, Zach tree Tt went to Harvard
and Columbia. What is one thing that happened in your
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entire life that you can remember that made others think
that you also went to Harvard? Um it grows. There's
like the real answer to this, and like the funny
answer to this, do him all. Let's have it all
like a buffet style a buffet um. I when I
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was a kid, I went to Missouri Fine Arts Academy
in the summer and like that was like I was,
you know, Missouri like fine arts. It's three words that
had never been put together before. And like I went
there were all these different things you would go for,
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and I went for dance. And like people when people
found that out, they were like, oh my god, Zack's
like a professional dancer. Cut to me like fully like
falling out of like double pirouettes and like trying not
to be gay in front of people, like in the
middle of Missouri. Like oh my god, Zeck, did you
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wear like to be a male ballerina? Like did you
wear the the tights and like the unitard and stuff. Um,
it was very like you had to wear born fitting.
They may not, I don't think they made us wear tights,
but it was definitely like they had to see your body. Yeah,
they're the pedophiles, right. Okay, again we are learning about
(33:58):
more and more pedophiles emerging with every second that goes by. Um,
whole interesting okay. And when so I did ballet, jazz
and tap when I was a child pre ten years old,
and when I would go to the recitals, when you
would see the older like ballerinas and the men, the
(34:21):
mail ballerinas, and I could not, as a horny, horny
little girl feel my wretched, disgusting eyes away from the
bouncing packages. The dance belt is like a cup for
for mail for dancers, and it just like it's like
(34:43):
a cocoon for the cock, a cock cocoon and um,
it really forms like a mold over it. So it's
like to not look is impossible. It literally has a
gravitational Yes, that's what I I felt like, Oh wow,
thank you for suaging my guilt. Um. But now learning
(35:08):
that there's a cup for male ballerinas, and I tell
you what is this podcast educational or what? Okay, I
never knew about the male ballerina cup, but how uncomfortable.
Not only are you trying to do those little kicks
and jumps and throw these women into the air, but
you have to wear a cup under tights. It's like
(35:31):
so it's like a structured kind of like jock strap.
It's a dance called a dance belt, and it's just
like it's got like a form to it. It's maybe
not as far as a cup, but I think it
ultimately does help because you don't want you don't like
to be in the middle of like Wete's and have
a ball start to like do his own thing. You know,
you don't want you don't want him to like slide
(35:53):
out and about and like you know pull focus like
ray for that ball. Yeah, I know that's kind of
a hout. Boobs are like sometimes I'm just like God,
I wanna run and leap, but you can't do that
with a out of brawl, Like you really just can't. There.
I just saw a TikTok Runners Girls runner top and
(36:17):
it was like a three step process where it was
like zip um clip and then like hoist and it
like kept her boobs like high and tight. Yeah, I
have purchased all these things and they strapped me in
like vultron. Uh it's good. I can. I can run
and drump as an former athlete and stuff. But god,
(36:40):
it sucks to be a woman, except where male ballerinas understand.
I almost Oh, my racky, my ricky practitioner told me
that I have to stop saying it sucks to be
a woman. I believe that. Yeah, she said, I really
need to. I'm trying to right now tap into my
divine feminine and no, I I support with the rap.
(37:01):
I under actually understand both perspectives it sucks to be
a woman, and stop saying that, like both are like
very no. No, my perspective is she's right. Like when
she said that, I was like, yeah, you're right, bitch,
you're right. She was like, of your period. I was like, bitch,
she went Okay, she went a step too far. I Um,
(37:23):
I am journaling and manifesting my tits off these days,
and I'm like becoming increasingly hyper aware of the words
that come out of my mouth and like how my
body absorbs them back. You know what I mean. It's
like it feels those things, and when you say them,
it's like, Okay, part of that's true, he's kidding, but
part of it's true. You know, it's totally true. And
(37:45):
it's funny because I know you and I could talk
about this for hours as somebody who journals for many
pages a day and meditates and does all sorts of
absolutely cuckoo, insane, insane things that never be revealed on
this podcast that I had to keep under wraps with
everything inside me. Um, but pertain into what you're saying.
(38:11):
I wonder because I believe that so strongly exactly what
you just said. I worry sometimes, like uh about my act,
like with jokes, because you say them so much, and um,
like like right now, for the first time in my life,
I feel I'm really ready to find love, get married,
(38:31):
and have children. And it's taken me a long time,
maybe a little delayed after some people, but my act
right now is sort of like about like some months
behind where I was really because I really struggled hard
with commitment issues for a long time. And so I'm like, oh, no,
(38:52):
am I saying this right now? If I'm putting this out,
and I love like I love the jokes because you
know they're like they're popping at this point, but I'm like, oh,
I feel like, am I uh doing bad spell magic
right now? You know? I wish I could say like, no,
you're being silly. Of course not, but you might be
(39:14):
oh maybe, yes, yes, I know. I know that's what
I'm gonna I'm gonna record a special soon because I've
got to get this stuff done. I was gonna say,
fucking Burnett and what a perfect excuse to both do
a special like that and to write a ton of
new material. Oh yeah, because I am ready. I'm ready
to say hello, it's I'm ready to get married now
(39:38):
and the crowd man, oh heart. Um. I I love
that because that is one of you dead a comedy baby.
I'm still learning. Um. I think that's one of those
things where a guy could slide into the d m
(39:58):
s and like you've had that before, like hot guys
in the audience sliding to the d m s. But
now it could be like banker guy who's also ready
to find a girl with a humongous um heart, really
gaping heart and um. But like, because you're putting that
(40:19):
out there, they're gonna be like, oh, like I know
you're kidding, but like I'd love to go on a
date with you. You know, yeah, yeah, because right now
the act I'm doing, I sure get a lot of
d m s, but it's like they have no idea,
like that's not my heart, like my dating profile only
because my therapist did this to me. I don't really
(40:41):
use the app much as everyone knows. But um, it
says like looking to find my love of my life,
to hold hands with forever till I die, yes, once
you have children. You know, it's just very um straightforward.
That's scary, isn't it. It doesn't really scare me anymore
(41:03):
because I just so clear, you know, I think it
did in the beginning when I was making the transition
to feeling very rooted in this failing you know, sure, absolutely,
absolutely yeah. We really went on the tangent Um in
(41:29):
amidst finding more pedophiles. Okay, um, so wait, so we
did find uh fine arts of Missouri and what was
was there another time that made people think you went
to Harvard? We like, Okay, so I guess I took
that like metaphorically like it like I thought I was
(41:51):
like special, did I misinterpret? But yeah, you didn't take
it however you want, because uh, this is this is
into interpretation. It's a sort of a magical vortex we
enter in on this podcast, so really you can go
any direction you It's a it's a raw shack test
of a podcast that is so exquisitely put zack. Okay.
(42:18):
The other time was JFL and I felt like, because
that's like the Harvard of Comedy sort of did you
go in? I did? Okay, you went, and like you know,
people shoot on it and stuff, but it really is
just so special. I'm telling you. Walking on that stage
(42:38):
for my set f JFL set was I think the
most um tangible energy I've ever felt performing so far,
do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think for
me too. I mean I can't remember some big, big
sensations like five, like really big five probably, but that
(42:58):
one was really bit that that theater is just crazy
crazy and it's packed to the girls, and it's just
such pressure. It's such pressure because you've waited and worked
so many years for it, and if you thought about
that moment and like been grasping at this thing for
so long, yeah, bury that and then when it goes well,
(43:18):
you're just like maybe it's a weights lifted, you know,
like when you walk off stage, you're just like maybe
that's what I was feeling, actually, like the relief of
it going well, you know, yeah, I mean like yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I went when I was four years
in and so I when I got off stage, it
(43:39):
luckily did go very well, but I couldn't remember. It
was full blackout, like I wasn't in my body at all.
I couldn't remember one thing because I was so terrified
and thought that like my whole life rested on that
five minutes. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, no it did. My
(44:03):
second one wasn't as good as the theater one. Oh
same my like the satellite the other location, Yeah, nothing
nowhere near as good. Yeah, same, same, same, But also
like don't you think back on it, and it's just
so interesting, because like we always feel ready for things,
(44:23):
but I like, you know, Sam j was my year
who had been doing comedy I don't know, I think
ten years, twelve years or something, and when I watched
her go up, she was just like it was like
nothing for her, like yeah, you know, and you think
it's just like there is something too. Things happening later
(44:46):
on in your life when you're way more secure and
not putting so much weight on everything. Oh my god.
That's the best part of getting older, is like you're like, oh,
guess what, Like I'm not gonna die if this doesn't
go well, you know what I mean. You just like prepare,
you do what you can. And then you're like, okay,
like let's say they're gonna go well, or it's gonna
(45:06):
go bad, or it's gonna go medium, Like who cares,
you know, like let's just go yeah, and the perspective shift,
Like I just remember being so fucking thirsty, horny for
like something to happen like the And then when you
get older, you like just way more chill and things
can come to you easier. Yes, and they do. And yeah,
(45:26):
no one thing is like the thing, Like you learn
that quickly in this business. God, because you think it's
jack Oh, you think it's the pilot, you think it's
this the movie, and it's not, like it's not. Your
life is the thing, Like your day to day happiness
is the thing. You know. Oh God, I've learned that
(45:48):
so deeply, especially like even when Trevor died, it was
like so it taught me so much of that. I
was like, oh my God, like I have to stop
like trying to get to the next thing or else
my whole life is going to pass me by. Holy
sh it. I swear that changed me so fundamentally, Like
I really spend a lot more time like prioritizing fun
(46:11):
and like doing fun things that I really didn't do before. Yep,
it's so important. You only have today, you know what
I mean? Truly, it's so crazy. Yeah, but then we
also forget that when we wake up every morning. How
I mean you can I forget it? Like and I'm
(46:32):
I'm in recovery. I got of meetings and stuff and
like I'll feel great leaving and then like three hours later,
I'm like, mother, this bit cut me, you know, like
la la, you just forget. Yeah, it's crazy, but thank
God for recovery. Huh Okay. So, according to Lucian wickles Um,
(46:57):
why do you think JT. T chose to leave acting?
Usually child actors have such a great, long, illustrious careers
with no downside. Where would he walk away from that?
Do you agree with his choice? Do you wish he
had continued his street instead of occasionally guest starring in
Last Man Standing Out of respect for his former television
dad Tim Allen. Wait, okay, so I have questions about that.
(47:23):
Did his TV siblings guests on Last Man Standing or
was it just Randy? I don't know, Zac, because Lucian
didn't tell me about his TuS siblings. Okay, okay, Um,
I think it was kind of rude too for him
to get all of us girls really damp and like
(47:46):
riled up and then kind of ghost us. Like I
don't think that's good. That's not very um humanitarian of him,
if I'm using that term correctly, and and um I am.
I think the only thing that he could have done
maybe better is at least start and only fans so
(48:08):
like his fan base could find him again. And like
whether that's just videos of him walking his dog or
videos of him, you know, jerking off in the shower,
Like I think we deserve some closure around our crushes
on j TT mr K. I like that answer. I do. Uh,
(48:30):
that was cyle heartfelt. Um. Can you believe though his
respect for Tim Allen, does that also mean that you
have respect for Tim? To Tim Allen? Uh, maybe we
need to cancel you, Zach. Maybe maybe being canceled sounds
fucking relaxing as hell. Okay, so this podcast is really
(48:59):
actually made to cancel everyone and every guess I bring on.
It's uh, the interview is meant to cancel. You wait,
that's so refreshing. I don't think any other podcast is canceled.
Someone before, I love He said being canceled would be relaxing. Well,
(49:21):
first of all, it implies I have something to cancel.
Second of all, I don't have to worry anymore. You're
a star. I love watching you. Well, I'm loving it
out with you in real life. You're so funny and
smart and cool. But I love watching you on stage
so much. Like I just think you're so funny. Um,
ditto did Now we're sucking each other's dicks. I love it, um,
(49:44):
I mean it though. It's true. Well, you are absolutely
such like a unique perspective and like why like so
intoxicating to watch on stage and so special Jessie special
already you need especially whatever you wanna call it. No,
you really are, you really are. There's no one like
Blair Saki, and there's no one who can do your
(50:06):
jokes and that's like the sign of like an iconic comedian.
Oh my god, Zack Wow, thank you. That just hit
me deep in my soul. Dude, other people think it too.
We all talk about you behind your back. I feel
the way about you. I love you. Oh my god,
I can't even believe what a big deal it is
(50:27):
that you would do my my podcast. Well I'm doing
it for Lucien. But yeah, is it because you love
Lucien or you fear Lucien? You know, isn't what's the difference? Um,
what's the difference? Profound? Profound? Oh my gosh. Well, I'm
so sad to say that we're nearing the end of
(50:47):
our episode, but I do have one last segment to
ask you are. A segment is called a Fan on
the Street Street Tree, and we like to ask our
guests if they have a fun anecdote of a celebrity
(51:11):
encounter that they like to share. Um, oh my god, yes,
I'm I mean, I'm sure I have, like several they
all escaped my mind. Um okay, So most recently, I
was walking down Santa Monico Boulevard in West Hollywood, California,
and um, uh, oh my god, it's not not Leslie Man,
(51:35):
who was Fern Mayo in Jawbreaker. Generally talking about I
think so yeah, oh god, this is gonna absolutely hold on.
This is how people have strokes. They think, um, they
can't think of something like this. Hold on, hold on,
we believe in Mayo, Judy Greer. Yes, So I'm walking
(51:58):
down and I'm passing Hugo, which is just a gay
restaurant that three people sometimes go to, and um, she
was sitting at a table right inside the window, and
I stopped and I went my mouth, I love you,
and she was like, oh, thanks, you know, and then
I just kept going that's such a tasteful encounter. You know.
(52:21):
What I do is like I see them and I
immediately look the other way, like hardcore, just accidentally reflexively,
like I don't keep my cool at all, and I
don't want them to think that like I'm bothering them
or anything. But that's so tasteful, just a nice quick
mouth drive by. So to me, Okay, I agree with
what you're saying. I would never put myself into a
(52:43):
conversation with them, but um, I know how much I
love when someone randomly says like they they love They'll
stop me on the stream like you're so funny, like
I saw, I'm like, it makes my week so like
I like to think that silverty still like a compliment,
you know. Oh no, I'm sure Judy loved that. I'm
(53:05):
sorry Judy it you know, shot her to the moon
that day. Maybe she really needed it. Yeah, it's like
because we do now know some quite famous people, and
those people like when people will just fully come in
between you two, like when you're in a conversation or
at the airport or at dinner or something, and you're like,
(53:27):
this is really over the top right now, Like sometimes
people are not subtle at all, but it's bizarre. It's
like it astounds me. Like I asked myself this question
so many times. I'm like, who raised you? Like when
I'm when I'm encountering someone like bizarrely, like who's just
interacting in a bizarre way? And like where did you
(53:47):
come from? Like how how have you? How have you
gotten to this point in your life like this? You know, Yeah,
I'm sure people do that when you're with Whitney a lot, right.
Whitney is like y ery fan forward, Like she'll talk
to a fan for like twenty minutes, just talks, talks,
talks today. She loves kind, generous, Yeah, she's very giving, Zack. Well, God,
(54:16):
I'm so sad for this to end, but thank you
so much. I feel like we really got to the
bottom of a law with Jonathan and um, I'm glad
we love the hot chocolate in Santa Claus. Um and
I hope that Joshua Tree is just everything you ever
hoped for. And then I see you when you get back. Please,
I love you so much. I love you so much.
(55:00):
M
Hello everyone, and welcome back to another stunning episode of
the Dear Owen Wilson Podcast. I am so happy to
be with you again. Oh it's thrilling. We're moving into summer,
my favorite time of year. And yeah, this has just
been so fun. So thank you guys for showing your
asses up every week. Showing your asses up, that's not
(00:23):
a thing. Tuning in your ears, tuning in your motherfucking ears. Yes, baby,
I am grateful, I am happy. And you know what,
this episode is no exception. I have my dear friend
Zach Nelly Towers on the podcast. You may know him
from being on the E Network stating No Filter and
(00:43):
you can be seen in this upcoming season of Dear
White People on Netflix. He's so funny. I just adore
him like I He's one of those comedians when they're
on stage, um, you come back in the room to
watch them. And yeah, I'm just thrilled to have him
on the podcast. So follow him at Zach Noey Towers
(01:05):
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e r s on Twitter and Instagram. He's hilarious and
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And as I say, if you're liking the podcast and
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(01:27):
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episode is so great. I love you guys. Have a
very week. Welcome back to the deer o In Wilson Podcast.
(01:53):
Lady Earls the Blair sucky. Guess what everyone is very
in l A. I seem to be tired and loopy.
So let's see how this one is gonna go. Because
I'm feeling real sally real, whack a doodle. But do
I have a treat for you guys today, My dear fans,
(02:15):
my followers all around the entire globe, even intergalactically. I
know millions and millions of you tune into this podcast,
and I just want to thank you because your valued here.
You're welcome here always. Yeah, that's my problem is to you. Okay,
you guys. This next guest that I have brought to
(02:36):
you today is such a huge get for our podcast.
Oh my god. He is a dream. He is a
machine is a comedy tycoon, a movie writer, someone I
look up to and always share a good laugh with.
Oh my god, okay, here, what do you do out
(03:00):
come to the show, my dear friends, Zack no eat towers,
comedy tycoon here reporting for duty. God, it's so about
to see you, to be with you. I know, I
wish we were in the flesh so we could um
(03:22):
rub our like hot, sweaty bodies all over one another.
I wish that too. That would sound so good to me.
How have you been, Zack? It's really it's been too
long for us for my taste. For it's been way
too long for my taste. We have no real excuse.
You actually called me out of the blue not too
(03:42):
long ago, and it was like it made my like week,
do you remember. That's so kind of you to say,
because I was just enjoyed a chatting with you. It
was like truly highlight and I walked away going, oh
my god, I love her, Like that was just it.
It's like, well, I don't know, calls. Phone call seems
so vintage these days that like to get a call
(04:05):
that's not like a family member dying or like a
doctor like telling you test results like it was refreshing.
That's so good. I'm so glad because you know, I'm
walking all these miles around Los Angeles a lot of time,
and most of the time I just preferred to be quiet.
But everyone I think of a dear loved one and
(04:26):
I say, you know what, I need to ring them
right now. Nothing is going to get in the way
of me calling up my motherfucking friend Zach. It paid off.
It was such a high payoff. Yeah, but I'm good.
I'm good. I'm currently in Joshua Tree. It's very hot,
but I'm inside in air conditioning, which I love. I
(04:47):
can't recommend air conditioning enough. If you are, if you've
been thinking about trying it, go for it, splurge, get
the air conditioning. Oh god, I to get a conditioning.
So funny that you bring that up while we have
so much in common. Wow. Okay, Well, I guess we'd
(05:08):
better get into it because I know we could catch
up for days if you could do the honors of
reading your letter. We like to jump into it without
any reveals. Oh okay, so I'm not saying to it
who it's too No, you are just as you're reading it. Yeah,
just no discussion beforehand about who got it? Got it?
(05:28):
Got it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Okay. Dear Jonathan Taylor Thomas Wow,
voice of Simba, creator of the butt Cut, and fire
starter of my Raging homosexuality? How can I possibly thank you?
From the moment I saw you on Home Improvement, I
(05:50):
knew something was up. While your Republican TV dad, Tim
Allen pounded nails, I yearned for you to pound me.
And that was years before I even knew what hounding was.
Home improvement more like homo improvement. Am I right? Your
voice alone made an animated lion seem beyond fuckable, and
(06:10):
your portrayal of Tom or Huck in Tom and Huck
I don't remember which part you played would surely have
made Mark Twain's gay ass proud. And while you obviously
played an integral role in my sexual awakening, I had
no reason to believe we could ever actually be together.
That was until when you played a bisexual sex worker
in the Straight to VHS feature Speedway Junkie. Do you
(06:33):
remember that? I know? I didn't until I googled you,
which maybe I shouldn't have done so instead of googling
J T. T recent The next time I'm feeling nostalgic
and horney. I'll just toss in my DVD copy of
Home for the Holidays and touch myself like a true
child of the nineties. Love Zach, Oh Zack. Wow, that
(06:54):
was so heartwarming, go on, what a letter love it?
Was it too horny? Absolutely not. It can never be
horny enough for this show. Oh my god. All that
I asked, My guess is that they bring rigorous honesty,
candid truth, frankness, and boy did you bring the ezack?
(07:22):
Was JTT a part of your sexual awakening? Oh? Big time?
Like yeah, I was so into him around Huckleberry Finn time,
like those lips, that long thick hair, you know. And honestly,
those were the times, like before the Internet, where it
was like there was a frenzy worked up with like
(07:45):
girlhood um around someone just sort of based who was
on like magazine covers. Yes, yes, very like you only
saw him for a half hour a week, and it
was like, I can't wait to see my teeth boyfriend.
Yes see, that's what we're missing now now with like
we're missing that that like we don't even get a
(08:08):
chance to look forward to anything because we're so oversaturated
with Internet culture. Did we just vow to get rid
of social media? Is that what just happened? Yeah, well
I sort of do touch on that quite often as
my fans around the globe and even intergalactically. No, I am.
(08:28):
I do not condone social media. I wanted to be
abolished and eradicated and actually maybe even the entire Internet
now that I think about it. But yeah, those I
missed those times that like yearning like that you could
you just like wait for Home Improvement to come on? Yes, yes, absolutely,
(08:50):
Like when I also remember, like I feel like there
were only ever like five movies out at a time,
Like they gave us like five to ten movies a year,
and like that was it. Like now there's like a
new movie or TV show like every single day. It's
like slow down, you're moving too fast. Yeah, And there's
like rarely stars anymore, just because the sheer magnitude of
(09:14):
the amount of shows on that, Like there's so many
people that have like big time acting jobs on shows
where you've never ever seen them in your life. The
entire careers or people on YouTube have like twenty six
million followers and I've never seen them before in my life.
Oh right, but don't you think that the YouTube generation
(09:35):
is like below us? But maybe not, you know, no
one really knows. Yeah, then you see like four year
old men and they're like, I watched you on this podcast,
and I'm like, what, you watched me on a podcast?
You know? So I guess those people like YouTube or something,
is what I'm saying. Yes, that makes sense. That checks
(09:57):
out well, Zach. I don't know if you remember this
from your illustrious appearance on the Live show, which you did.
Remind me was multiple times that DEMI a more attended
But I do conduct my shrewd interviews with the help
of my private detective, Lucien Wiggles. Do you remember Lucien Wiggles.
(10:24):
I remember being very intimidated by Lucian Wiggles, right, And
I think you're right to feel that way, because that
is how all my guests feel. And that's because Lucien
does not take it easy on anyone. He really goes
hard in the pain as he helps me write a
lot of these questions. And if you are ever you know, shaken,
(10:45):
slash offended by any of the questions, Lucian did right
that one. So just just a pleasant remind you Okay,
let's get started. Yes, are you ready? Yes? I submit? Yeah,
I love to submit. Um okay, here we go. In
m nine nine, j T. T left Home Improvement so
(11:12):
he could focus on his studies. Um okay. Um as
in he left his prime give working with no other
than Tim Allen in the height of his success, to
focus on school. As a comedian who has never worked
with Tim Allen, how does that make you feel? And
(11:34):
do you agree with JD t s choice to leave
Home Improvement to study, you know, to study this ass Maybe? Um?
I don't. I don't. I of course don't think anyone
should ever try to put knowledge in front of humor.
(11:55):
Um I I want to stay like, you know, dumb
and funny until the day they lower my body into
the ground. WHOA, that's so pure. But um I support
him getting kind of far away from Tim the Toolman Taylor. Yeah,
(12:16):
is he us TV Dad? You want him away from him? Yeah?
Like JTC is too pure of heart, Like Tim Allen
was probably trying to make him do cocaine and like
vote Republican and all sorts of other like malignant things
off camera. That was the vibe. I was getting malignant.
(12:36):
That's the word for it. You know, it's crazy to me.
What's always painful? It is like I really, and I
mean really liked the Santa Claus movies. Still like Santa
Claus one. You can't touch it. It's so good. I
mean that movie took me away. It did. It did
(13:01):
when it dispensed the best looking hot chocolate and warmest
chocolate ate cookie. It was. It was the creamiest looking
hot chocolate I've ever seen in my life. It's so
funny that you re count that exact detail, because when
I do think about it now what you're saying, I
have never seen hot chocolate look more delectable than in
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that film. No, okay, you know what the only other
food that rivals it, the only other movie food. I'm
gonna let you maybe take us take a guess. Oh god,
what is it? Is it not factory? Oh that's a
great guess. And we're gonna like that's I acknowledge how
brave you are to say that it was a great guess.
(13:47):
I it's the it's the imaginary food in Hook. Oh
my god, it's so funny that you say that, because
I have a joke about that. The food and Hook
I want to eat it. Yeah, I mean there's nothing. Especially,
it's even more heightened because they're so hungry and they
have when it appears, you're just holy ship. They did
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the same thing in the Harry Potter movies where they
made it appear out of thin air when all the
kids are like hungry waiting at the tables. Yes, but
there was like that fluff, like that marshmallow cream that
they colored stuff that doesn't exist in nature. You know
what I mean that? Boy, do I know? It does
not exist in nature? Yeah. When I would see those movies,
(14:31):
I was like a little trouble like sugar obsessed, compulsive
eater as a child, where I would like hunt and
gather like sugar from my home and hoard it under
my bed so that I could eat it in private,
like and I'd watch the other I was just watch
those movies and dream and I'd be like, why am
(14:52):
I hearing this boring life? Why can I be? Why
can I be in the chocolate factory? That's where I'm
supposed to be. Veruca Salty, my asked for some ship.
You are Veruca Salt. And as we're talking about food,
I loved your hour on Food so much, and I
think I'm nice, and I hope that's so crazy. It's
(15:16):
crazy that you were there because I only performed at
the one time. Oh girl, let's go to Edinburgh. Let's
get shows and go to Edinburgh. That was the point
of me writing it was to go to Edinburgh with it.
Now I use like, when I'm doing an hour headlining,
I'll use fifteen minutes of it. But besides that, like,
I feel like I could go back now and make
(15:38):
it so much better do it. It was so good.
It's very kind of you to say, and it was
kind of you to even attend on that night. And
I won't forget it, especially now that I've been reminded.
It's sticking with me forever. Okay, we do have to
continue on because I need to know every nook and
(15:58):
cranny about your relationship with Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Okay, here
we go. Um. I think we concluded that we don't
agree with jtts choice to leave Woman Improvement to study.
He was supposed to remain hot and dumb. Okay, JTT
voice Simba as a cub in The Lion King, as
(16:20):
we mentioned. As you mentioned, do you ever act like
a small animal in your own life? If so, why
or why not? Um? You know, in the gay community,
I am known as an otter, dear Wilson exclusive. Yes,
(16:40):
I love honors exactly so, and I think, oh, is
there a different kind? I don't know, the gate the
gay you don't like, okay, homophobic, don't This is the
first time hearing about an honor. Okay, sorry, I feel
like I'm nineties seven years old. Please enlighten me, honestly, Blair.
(17:02):
There's no reason you should know what an honor is,
truly none. Um. But yeah, I I know we don't
use the term spirit animal, but whatever animal you have
like a bond with um, I do think I have
that with otters and they are do you know stuff
about honors? No, I'm just enjoying this so much because
(17:26):
I also love honors. Like me and Rosebuds send an
honor videos back and forth to each other, and you know,
like Rosebud like would kick a baby. She's like the
most hardcore bitch in the world, and like it's just
so funny like where she's she's even soft on honns.
They are, okay, you know then obviously they hold each
other's arms when they sleep, literally, like that's the stuff
(17:50):
like I want to see that couple in the Titanic,
you know, like holding pause as the ship goes down. Um,
so you believe in true love, then in in the
hotter community. Okay, but do you mind if you could
enlighten me what makes you an hotter in the gay
community or what makes anyone an honor? To my knowledge,
(18:12):
it is a slim, hairy guy. And I have like
very nice like chest hair, like I've a little pelt
and like a little tummy of chest hair. Can I
tell you that I love chest hair on men? Dude?
It's like, I'm sorry, it's alpha vibes and I've got
him to spare. Yeah, yeah you do. And I'll agree
(18:33):
with that. Um, and I will say, if you're an honor,
I like honors, baby, But I did one time an
ex boyfriend who shaved his chest and I was like
it grossed me out so much. I was like, you
have to stop that. Now, you have to stop the
chest shaving. I love a hairy man. Why. I mean
(18:54):
the chest is like okay, I accept, Like maybe you
don't want it on your shoulders, maybe you don't want
it on your back, Maybe you don't want it like
neck up dangling out of your nose. Yeah, chest is
like so like Tarzan Caveman, you know, like me want them? Yeah, woman,
(19:15):
I like it. Okay, So that's crazy. Now I just learned.
I was, I have been educated. What an r is? Yeah,
I like them? Okay. So wait, so do you so
(19:36):
you act like an honor? Then? Do you ever act
like a small animal in your own life? I mean, um,
I think maybe I move about the world like an otter,
like very like, um, fun to watch, maybe a little aggressive,
don't approach me suddenly? Um, you know, vicious cute, cute
(19:56):
cute and vicious cute and vicious. Love that okay, yes,
um okay, so j T T. According to Lucian Wiggles,
j T T is quoted as saying I never took
fame seriously too seriously. It was a great time period
(20:18):
in my life, but it doesn't define me. When I
think back on the time, I look at it with
a wink. I focused on the good moments I had,
not that I was on a lot of magazine covers. Zach,
why can't you be that humble? And do you also
take fame so seriously? Um? I think I'd be doing
(20:41):
the world a disservice if I was that stupidly humble.
I agree. I think the world needs to see really
obnoxiously proud gay otters like shining, like as shiny as
their pelts. Um, and uh, fame is okay, So I
will agree with JDT. I don't think fame is like
(21:03):
the most important thing, but success is very important. I
love that. And so I just think are our our
fame is like it's coming whether we want it or not. So, um,
I just hope not to be I guess ob noxious
about it. And um, yeah, I don't know. Talk to
(21:26):
me when I'm on my my tenth issue of Tiger
Beat magazine, Tiger Be Oh god, I is to fuck
with Tiger by Rub Rub on that magazine as much
as you need, like, uh, lots of lots of fold outs,
you know, like posters. I remember the fold outs. It
(21:48):
was so good to us, Yes, it was. Wait what
about you? How? How how about you? And being humble?
And um, I go back and forth, like sometimes I'll
catch myself in my life being ridiculously humble in a
way that I don't like, just in the way that
you're saying. And other times, you know, I can be
just ferociously confident in a way that I wish to be,
(22:12):
you know, well, I mean serious answer is, of course,
like humble is so hot when someone's humble, Like that's hot,
Like the fact that JTT Like I don't know if
he actually was that way, but if he is that way,
like that's sexy. Like he's not like snorting coke, you know,
ditching interviews, like knocking people down at Shateau Marmont. He's like, oh, like,
(22:34):
I'm just an actor, you know. Aren't you mad that
we didn't get to have that time in our lives
where we were just like falling over people at Chateau
Marma and like, you know, we were getting into a
black suv and they have a picture of my vagina
and you know, your eyes are closed, like with your
(22:55):
shoulder on my on me. Stick with me for a second,
I say, we do that in our eighties, Okay, but
no one's gonna care. Yes they will if if Blair
at eight one is flashing her pussy outside of Horma,
are you kidding? If Betty White started flashing her shaw
(23:19):
saw all around town, we'd all be We'd all be
glued to the screen. Remember God, Betty White was sucking
rad like, oh god, remember when they had those pussy
shots like constantly. Yes, I think it was just because
the paparazzi at that time period in the early odds
was just so vicious to women, and like, don't you
(23:42):
think I think maybe the first one, yes, but I
think it might have been a tactic for some people,
right right, And then they got wise and they were like, oh,
here's a flash. Yeah, I mean like, oh, wait, what's
your take on that? I like, I I've never had
a vagina and I've never been attacked by paparazzi, So
(24:06):
maybe I'm not the right person to ask, But would
do you think it's out of the rama possibility that
like a young Starlett would be like, yeah, I'll flash
my my vagina for some press or no. I don't know,
because I'm uh, just freakishly naive about these things, because
there's some like that's so hard for me to believe.
(24:29):
I'm sure it's true, but I to wrap my brain
around that that someone would want that is so difficult.
I don't know. It's like I still and like I
used to watch a lot of Kardashians where I always
thought Chris had the best personality of all of them.
It's still to this day, I don't know if I
(24:50):
believe that Chris released Kim's sex tape and everyone's like,
you're insane. She did, she did, she released it, she did,
and are denying the truth of what is I mean?
I love that you're a naive personally. It gets me
into trouble a lot of the time. But I don't know.
(25:10):
That just seems crazy. I can't believe that a mother
would want to do that. And then I feel like,
I know Chris from the TV. She's my Chris. She
wouldn't do that. She's not a mom, she's a manager.
Oh god, yeah, I could get eaten up by this
business having it though. Okay, But the thing is, you
(25:33):
have people like Rosebud who will literally decapitate someone if
they if they hurt you, do you know what I mean? True,
that's true. It's funny that I'm like twice the size
of her. Honestly, if you aren't reminded me of that,
I was like, Rosebud's probably like six three six four,
you know, Like that's just like the energy that is
(25:56):
the energy love her. We both love her. Um. Okay,
So according to Lucien. Jonathan Taylor Thomas does not like
the nickname j T. T. He quote unquote doesn't understand
why people just can't say his whole name, Zack. Do
(26:18):
you also become filled with rage when people don't say
your full name. No, it's like if my if my
essence is passing people's lips, Mama's happy, Mama's call me
whatever you want, call me Zach flow e powers, call
me that gay guy, call me whatever you want, um
(26:43):
And like Jonathan J. T. Teach, I'm gonna I'm sorry,
but shut up. That is so I don't understand why
John Nothing Taylor Thomas. It's seven syllables. Who has We're
saying l O L, we're saying l m al, we
are saying b RB like we are not saying your
(27:03):
whole name. There's no reason. Yeah, yeah, that's really funny.
I do think it's interesting when people just don't want
their nickname that everyone calls them. But I also like,
I don't mind when people mispronounce my name because I
(27:24):
know that I have no power over that and people
are like, well, because I always think it's crazy when
someone's gotten matter like about me mispronouncing their name or
something which happens when you're like bringing someone on stage
and stand up or whatever. I always asked beforehand. But
you know, I don't care if someone mispronounced my name
(27:45):
and people will be like, that's low self esteem, and
I'm like, no, it's just like it has nothing to
do with me. It's outside of me. It literally you
hit the nail on the head. It has nothing to
do with you. If anything, they just look stupid to
an audience of people, do you know what I mean?
So it's like they should maybe feel I would never
(28:07):
put it on them to feel bad, but like I
humbly invite you to feel bad if you want to
hear what I mean, Like like I say my name,
I don't care, Like I'm still who I know my name?
You know, Like, yeah, I know your name, I know
my name. We know each other's names, you know what.
That's it. That's what it matters. If I ever meet him,
(28:31):
I think, what would you say? Like I think I
would say hello Jonathan, or would you say hello Jonathan Taylor?
I would go Mr Taylor Thomas, so good to see
you closed and out of my dreams, so horrible to
(28:52):
see you with clothes on? Wait, so is no, even
not your middle name like our people are three name people?
Is that like their last name? I'm confused. No, no,
he's my middle name. Oh okay, okay, okay, well and okay,
I don't know if Lucian did this, um this deep dive.
(29:15):
His real name is not Jonathan Taylor Thomas. It's Jonathan
Taylor like Weisler or something. Yeah, and um, he derived
his Jonathan is his real first name, his real middle name,
and then his last name. Thomas is his brother's middle name. Hello, sketchy,
that's talented, Mr Ripley ship. Yeah. And only the one
(29:39):
and only Lucian Wiggles is the only one to get
to the bottom of that Daryl and Wilson exclusive. Um. Yeah,
but we get into it here. We it's a no
holds bar type of operation. Ah. So moving on. Um,
we have concluded you do not become filled with rage
when people don't say a full name. Um. According to
(30:02):
Lucian Wiggles, J T. T S character's name was Randy
any human improvement? Did you remember that his name was Randy?
You know now that you say it, I could have.
I never forgot, but yes I did, because I forgotten
and I was like, oh good, looking up, lucian um,
(30:24):
and so yes you do. Would consider yourself randy for
j T T at the height of his fame, would you?
And please answer carefully because we are asking if you
were horny for a child? Um, okay, okay, your honor.
First of all, um, I too was a child, and
(30:50):
j T T at the time and to this day
is older than me. So by being part of my fantasies,
j T T was actually the pedophile in this situation.
Oh my god, whoa that was like goodwill hunting math problem. Wow. Wow,
(31:12):
Lucien came for you and you turned it right on
his head. Yes I did. Okay, I know my rights.
I know my rights. He knows he's right. And now
we are learning in real time that JT T is
actually a pedophile. Oh MoMA's cough is back. Um, that's
(31:35):
so funny. Do you think he listens to every podcast
that mentions him. He's definitely gonna listen to this one
because it is so internationally known and intergalactically. This is
like the podcast of Rick and Morty. This is like
Rick and Morty is like official podcast. Oh yeah, A
lot of those in sales love listening to this. Oh
(32:03):
my god, be it no, I love Okay, so it's
heating up and here a good thing. You got that condition.
He's Zack. Next question, Zach tree Tt went to Harvard
and Columbia. What is one thing that happened in your
(32:27):
entire life that you can remember that made others think
that you also went to Harvard? Um it grows. There's
like the real answer to this, and like the funny
answer to this, do him all. Let's have it all
like a buffet style a buffet um. I when I
(32:51):
was a kid, I went to Missouri Fine Arts Academy
in the summer and like that was like I was,
you know, Missouri like fine arts. It's three words that
had never been put together before. And like I went
there were all these different things you would go for,
(33:12):
and I went for dance. And like people when people
found that out, they were like, oh my god, Zack's
like a professional dancer. Cut to me like fully like
falling out of like double pirouettes and like trying not
to be gay in front of people, like in the
middle of Missouri. Like oh my god, Zeck, did you
(33:36):
wear like to be a male ballerina? Like did you
wear the the tights and like the unitard and stuff. Um,
it was very like you had to wear born fitting.
They may not, I don't think they made us wear tights,
but it was definitely like they had to see your body. Yeah,
they're the pedophiles, right. Okay, again we are learning about
(33:58):
more and more pedophiles emerging with every second that goes by. Um,
whole interesting okay. And when so I did ballet, jazz
and tap when I was a child pre ten years old,
and when I would go to the recitals, when you
would see the older like ballerinas and the men, the
(34:21):
mail ballerinas, and I could not, as a horny, horny
little girl feel my wretched, disgusting eyes away from the
bouncing packages. The dance belt is like a cup for
for mail for dancers, and it just like it's like
(34:43):
a cocoon for the cock, a cock cocoon and um,
it really forms like a mold over it. So it's
like to not look is impossible. It literally has a
gravitational Yes, that's what I I felt like, Oh wow,
thank you for suaging my guilt. Um. But now learning
(35:08):
that there's a cup for male ballerinas, and I tell
you what is this podcast educational or what? Okay, I
never knew about the male ballerina cup, but how uncomfortable.
Not only are you trying to do those little kicks
and jumps and throw these women into the air, but
you have to wear a cup under tights. It's like
(35:31):
so it's like a structured kind of like jock strap.
It's a dance called a dance belt, and it's just
like it's got like a form to it. It's maybe
not as far as a cup, but I think it
ultimately does help because you don't want you don't like
to be in the middle of like Wete's and have
a ball start to like do his own thing. You know,
you don't want you don't want him to like slide
(35:53):
out and about and like you know pull focus like
ray for that ball. Yeah, I know that's kind of
a hout. Boobs are like sometimes I'm just like God,
I wanna run and leap, but you can't do that
with a out of brawl, Like you really just can't. There.
I just saw a TikTok Runners Girls runner top and
(36:17):
it was like a three step process where it was
like zip um clip and then like hoist and it
like kept her boobs like high and tight. Yeah, I
have purchased all these things and they strapped me in
like vultron. Uh it's good. I can. I can run
and drump as an former athlete and stuff. But god,
(36:40):
it sucks to be a woman, except where male ballerinas understand.
I almost Oh, my racky, my ricky practitioner told me
that I have to stop saying it sucks to be
a woman. I believe that. Yeah, she said, I really
need to. I'm trying to right now tap into my
divine feminine and no, I I support with the rap.
(37:01):
I under actually understand both perspectives it sucks to be
a woman, and stop saying that, like both are like
very no. No, my perspective is she's right. Like when
she said that, I was like, yeah, you're right, bitch,
you're right. She was like, of your period. I was like, bitch,
she went Okay, she went a step too far. I Um,
(37:23):
I am journaling and manifesting my tits off these days,
and I'm like becoming increasingly hyper aware of the words
that come out of my mouth and like how my
body absorbs them back. You know what I mean. It's
like it feels those things, and when you say them,
it's like, Okay, part of that's true, he's kidding, but
part of it's true. You know, it's totally true. And
(37:45):
it's funny because I know you and I could talk
about this for hours as somebody who journals for many
pages a day and meditates and does all sorts of
absolutely cuckoo, insane, insane things that never be revealed on
this podcast that I had to keep under wraps with
everything inside me. Um, but pertain into what you're saying.
(38:11):
I wonder because I believe that so strongly exactly what
you just said. I worry sometimes, like uh about my act,
like with jokes, because you say them so much, and um,
like like right now, for the first time in my life,
I feel I'm really ready to find love, get married,
(38:31):
and have children. And it's taken me a long time,
maybe a little delayed after some people, but my act
right now is sort of like about like some months
behind where I was really because I really struggled hard
with commitment issues for a long time. And so I'm like, oh, no,
(38:52):
am I saying this right now? If I'm putting this out,
and I love like I love the jokes because you
know they're like they're popping at this point, but I'm like, oh,
I feel like, am I uh doing bad spell magic
right now? You know? I wish I could say like, no,
you're being silly. Of course not, but you might be
(39:14):
oh maybe, yes, yes, I know. I know that's what
I'm gonna I'm gonna record a special soon because I've
got to get this stuff done. I was gonna say,
fucking Burnett and what a perfect excuse to both do
a special like that and to write a ton of
new material. Oh yeah, because I am ready. I'm ready
to say hello, it's I'm ready to get married now
(39:38):
and the crowd man, oh heart. Um. I I love
that because that is one of you dead a comedy baby.
I'm still learning. Um. I think that's one of those
things where a guy could slide into the d m
(39:58):
s and like you've had that before, like hot guys
in the audience sliding to the d m s. But
now it could be like banker guy who's also ready
to find a girl with a humongous um heart, really
gaping heart and um. But like, because you're putting that
(40:19):
out there, they're gonna be like, oh, like I know
you're kidding, but like I'd love to go on a
date with you. You know, yeah, yeah, because right now
the act I'm doing, I sure get a lot of
d m s, but it's like they have no idea,
like that's not my heart, like my dating profile only
because my therapist did this to me. I don't really
(40:41):
use the app much as everyone knows. But um, it
says like looking to find my love of my life,
to hold hands with forever till I die, yes, once
you have children. You know, it's just very um straightforward.
That's scary, isn't it. It doesn't really scare me anymore
(41:03):
because I just so clear, you know, I think it
did in the beginning when I was making the transition
to feeling very rooted in this failing you know, sure, absolutely,
absolutely yeah. We really went on the tangent Um in
(41:29):
amidst finding more pedophiles. Okay, um, so wait, so we
did find uh fine arts of Missouri and what was
was there another time that made people think you went
to Harvard? We like, Okay, so I guess I took
that like metaphorically like it like I thought I was
(41:51):
like special, did I misinterpret? But yeah, you didn't take
it however you want, because uh, this is this is
into interpretation. It's a sort of a magical vortex we
enter in on this podcast, so really you can go
any direction you It's a it's a raw shack test
of a podcast that is so exquisitely put zack. Okay.
(42:18):
The other time was JFL and I felt like, because
that's like the Harvard of Comedy sort of did you
go in? I did? Okay, you went, and like you know,
people shoot on it and stuff, but it really is
just so special. I'm telling you. Walking on that stage
(42:38):
for my set f JFL set was I think the
most um tangible energy I've ever felt performing so far,
do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think for
me too. I mean I can't remember some big, big
sensations like five, like really big five probably, but that
(42:58):
one was really bit that that theater is just crazy
crazy and it's packed to the girls, and it's just
such pressure. It's such pressure because you've waited and worked
so many years for it, and if you thought about
that moment and like been grasping at this thing for
so long, yeah, bury that and then when it goes well,
(43:18):
you're just like maybe it's a weights lifted, you know,
like when you walk off stage, you're just like maybe
that's what I was feeling, actually, like the relief of
it going well, you know, yeah, I mean like yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I went when I was four years
in and so I when I got off stage, it
(43:39):
luckily did go very well, but I couldn't remember. It
was full blackout, like I wasn't in my body at all.
I couldn't remember one thing because I was so terrified
and thought that like my whole life rested on that
five minutes. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, no it did. My
(44:03):
second one wasn't as good as the theater one. Oh
same my like the satellite the other location, Yeah, nothing
nowhere near as good. Yeah, same, same, same, But also
like don't you think back on it, and it's just
so interesting, because like we always feel ready for things,
(44:23):
but I like, you know, Sam j was my year
who had been doing comedy I don't know, I think
ten years, twelve years or something, and when I watched
her go up, she was just like it was like
nothing for her, like yeah, you know, and you think
it's just like there is something too. Things happening later
(44:46):
on in your life when you're way more secure and
not putting so much weight on everything. Oh my god.
That's the best part of getting older, is like you're like, oh,
guess what, Like I'm not gonna die if this doesn't
go well, you know what I mean. You just like prepare,
you do what you can. And then you're like, okay,
like let's say they're gonna go well, or it's gonna
(45:06):
go bad, or it's gonna go medium, Like who cares,
you know, like let's just go yeah, and the perspective shift,
Like I just remember being so fucking thirsty, horny for
like something to happen like the And then when you
get older, you like just way more chill and things
can come to you easier. Yes, and they do. And yeah,
(45:26):
no one thing is like the thing, Like you learn
that quickly in this business. God, because you think it's
jack Oh, you think it's the pilot, you think it's
this the movie, and it's not, like it's not. Your
life is the thing, Like your day to day happiness
is the thing. You know. Oh God, I've learned that
(45:48):
so deeply, especially like even when Trevor died, it was
like so it taught me so much of that. I
was like, oh my God, like I have to stop
like trying to get to the next thing or else
my whole life is going to pass me by. Holy
sh it. I swear that changed me so fundamentally, Like
I really spend a lot more time like prioritizing fun
(46:11):
and like doing fun things that I really didn't do before. Yep,
it's so important. You only have today, you know what
I mean? Truly, it's so crazy. Yeah, but then we
also forget that when we wake up every morning. How
I mean you can I forget it? Like and I'm
(46:32):
I'm in recovery. I got of meetings and stuff and
like I'll feel great leaving and then like three hours later,
I'm like, mother, this bit cut me, you know, like
la la, you just forget. Yeah, it's crazy, but thank
God for recovery. Huh Okay. So, according to Lucian wickles Um,
(46:57):
why do you think JT. T chose to leave acting?
Usually child actors have such a great, long, illustrious careers
with no downside. Where would he walk away from that?
Do you agree with his choice? Do you wish he
had continued his street instead of occasionally guest starring in
Last Man Standing Out of respect for his former television
dad Tim Allen. Wait, okay, so I have questions about that.
(47:23):
Did his TV siblings guests on Last Man Standing or
was it just Randy? I don't know, Zac, because Lucian
didn't tell me about his TuS siblings. Okay, okay, Um,
I think it was kind of rude too for him
to get all of us girls really damp and like
(47:46):
riled up and then kind of ghost us. Like I
don't think that's good. That's not very um humanitarian of him,
if I'm using that term correctly, and and um I am.
I think the only thing that he could have done
maybe better is at least start and only fans so
(48:08):
like his fan base could find him again. And like
whether that's just videos of him walking his dog or
videos of him, you know, jerking off in the shower,
Like I think we deserve some closure around our crushes
on j TT mr K. I like that answer. I do. Uh,
(48:30):
that was cyle heartfelt. Um. Can you believe though his
respect for Tim Allen, does that also mean that you
have respect for Tim? To Tim Allen? Uh, maybe we
need to cancel you, Zach. Maybe maybe being canceled sounds
fucking relaxing as hell. Okay, so this podcast is really
(48:59):
actually made to cancel everyone and every guess I bring on.
It's uh, the interview is meant to cancel. You wait,
that's so refreshing. I don't think any other podcast is canceled.
Someone before, I love He said being canceled would be relaxing. Well,
(49:21):
first of all, it implies I have something to cancel.
Second of all, I don't have to worry anymore. You're
a star. I love watching you. Well, I'm loving it
out with you in real life. You're so funny and
smart and cool. But I love watching you on stage
so much. Like I just think you're so funny. Um,
ditto did Now we're sucking each other's dicks. I love it, um,
(49:44):
I mean it though. It's true. Well, you are absolutely
such like a unique perspective and like why like so
intoxicating to watch on stage and so special Jessie special
already you need especially whatever you wanna call it. No,
you really are, you really are. There's no one like
Blair Saki, and there's no one who can do your
(50:06):
jokes and that's like the sign of like an iconic comedian.
Oh my god, Zack Wow, thank you. That just hit
me deep in my soul. Dude, other people think it too.
We all talk about you behind your back. I feel
the way about you. I love you. Oh my god,
I can't even believe what a big deal it is
(50:27):
that you would do my my podcast. Well I'm doing
it for Lucien. But yeah, is it because you love
Lucien or you fear Lucien? You know, isn't what's the difference? Um,
what's the difference? Profound? Profound? Oh my gosh. Well, I'm
so sad to say that we're nearing the end of
(50:47):
our episode, but I do have one last segment to
ask you are. A segment is called a Fan on
the Street Street Tree, and we like to ask our
guests if they have a fun anecdote of a celebrity
(51:11):
encounter that they like to share. Um, oh my god, yes,
I'm I mean, I'm sure I have, like several they
all escaped my mind. Um okay, So most recently, I
was walking down Santa Monico Boulevard in West Hollywood, California,
and um, uh, oh my god, it's not not Leslie Man,
(51:35):
who was Fern Mayo in Jawbreaker. Generally talking about I
think so yeah, oh god, this is gonna absolutely hold on.
This is how people have strokes. They think, um, they
can't think of something like this. Hold on, hold on,
we believe in Mayo, Judy Greer. Yes, So I'm walking
(51:58):
down and I'm passing Hugo, which is just a gay
restaurant that three people sometimes go to, and um, she
was sitting at a table right inside the window, and
I stopped and I went my mouth, I love you,
and she was like, oh, thanks, you know, and then
I just kept going that's such a tasteful encounter. You know.
(52:21):
What I do is like I see them and I
immediately look the other way, like hardcore, just accidentally reflexively,
like I don't keep my cool at all, and I
don't want them to think that like I'm bothering them
or anything. But that's so tasteful, just a nice quick
mouth drive by. So to me, Okay, I agree with
what you're saying. I would never put myself into a
(52:43):
conversation with them, but um, I know how much I
love when someone randomly says like they they love They'll
stop me on the stream like you're so funny, like
I saw, I'm like, it makes my week so like
I like to think that silverty still like a compliment,
you know. Oh no, I'm sure Judy loved that. I'm
(53:05):
sorry Judy it you know, shot her to the moon
that day. Maybe she really needed it. Yeah, it's like
because we do now know some quite famous people, and
those people like when people will just fully come in
between you two, like when you're in a conversation or
at the airport or at dinner or something, and you're like,
(53:27):
this is really over the top right now, Like sometimes
people are not subtle at all, but it's bizarre. It's
like it astounds me. Like I asked myself this question
so many times. I'm like, who raised you? Like when
I'm when I'm encountering someone like bizarrely, like who's just
interacting in a bizarre way? And like where did you
(53:47):
come from? Like how how have you? How have you
gotten to this point in your life like this? You know, Yeah,
I'm sure people do that when you're with Whitney a lot, right.
Whitney is like y ery fan forward, Like she'll talk
to a fan for like twenty minutes, just talks, talks,
talks today. She loves kind, generous, Yeah, she's very giving, Zack. Well, God,
(54:16):
I'm so sad for this to end, but thank you
so much. I feel like we really got to the
bottom of a law with Jonathan and um, I'm glad
we love the hot chocolate in Santa Claus. Um and
I hope that Joshua Tree is just everything you ever
hoped for. And then I see you when you get back. Please,
I love you so much. I love you so much.
(55:00):
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