EP 363: A REAL Voluptuous BBW (Ft. Julie Ginger)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hey, so, welcome to another episode a Horrible Decision. You're
white boys, I mean it was closed, it wasn't bike.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm like on a huh.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Anyways, I wanted to mow them because we have someone
who moans as well, so I just wanted to do that. Anyways, guys,
welcome to another episode of horror. This is yos.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm your girl maybe b aka pet de Sign aka
full cor Posts aka Debt bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Y'all, it's weezy we're back for another episode. Today, we
have a guest that we met at the a b NS.
And what's crazy about this guest is that Mandy and
I were literally looking through categories on like who to interview,
and so I'm like sharing them with my boo or.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Whatever, not even sharing them wear her boo. She's sending
them to me.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well you were both, y'all. Yeah, so and Yoe was
literally one of them, but I think it just didn't
work out because we end up getting Nicole Kit and Mia.
So anyway, we're in line and this bitch asked my
man the whole sme. I'm like, and and way it
turns around is like, bitch, I know you no, but like,
it's so cool to go to the av AND Awards

(01:46):
and actually see people that you, you know, follow online.
That's so dope. And one of the things you said
to us in line, Julie you were I was like,
I hope you get to win. She was like, even
if it's not me, it better be a real BBW.
Yeah that's literally what she said. I did say that.
By the way, guys, we have Julie Ginger in the
motherfucking buildings. Julie Ginger real bb tell us what you

(02:10):
meant by that, because all right, look, there there are
levels to this ship.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
When it comes to bbw's right, you've got your smaller baby,
you know, like they they got that little puge, they
got that little like small like crease, and then just
like not not a belly, that's a little BBW. And
then you actually, you know, like mid size that has
a little more, and then you're big, and then you're big, big, big,
you know, and they just keep going up and up
and up. The girl who won no shade, congratulations alex

(02:39):
As always.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Where do you where do you place her?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
She is just on that fucking cusp of not being
a BBW, oh, which I'll say not being so she's
She's gained a little since I've seen I've gained a.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Little, which is crazy because even in the fashion world,
like they now have plus nized models, but it's more
of that like their toe You're twelve act was probably
the biggest plus side model I've seen.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I've seen some new ones come out lately. Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
When that page came out, I was like, oh, now,
don't get me wrong, I still in my opinion, I'm like,
there's sting still kind of flat, but she was big,
bigger arms, like even height, like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh no, no, let's be very clear.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, y'all have been listening to this podcast. That's the
very beginning.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I stood in my BBW motherfucking realm, and as soon
as I started losing my weight after Gastig, they said, oh, yeah, girl,
you're no longer BBW. Like as I was posting my
body positivity posts, they.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Was like, oh no, bitch, we kicked you out. You're
not BBW anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I remember during the I remember during the pandemic actually
going on clubhouse and there was a BBW room and
I got put on stage and there was plus size
influencers that literally was like, yeah, no, we don't even
know why you're up here. No more, you don't count
anymore type shit. And I'm like, bitch, you got me

(04:01):
fucked up. Mind you Still every fucking of the week
people are talking about my weight if they're watching.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
On YouTube or all those things.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So I want to I want to lean back into
porn specifically, and even you as a BBW porn star
or content creative, We're going to get into your content.
Why do you feel that way about bbw's because I
did also peep you pulled all the real BBWs to

(04:30):
take a picture. And after we did the red carpet,
Weisey and I looked over and you could tell the
group of women that took a picture, we're all like
the real BBWs.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
What does that kind of uh family or sisterhood look
like in the sex world space? It's hard. Actually, there's
a lot of people who don't like a lot of
other people, and I think that just comes from I
think in any entertainment industry, you're not gonna like everybody, right,
So it really comes down to just like when you

(05:03):
meet them in their journey in the industry, you know,
it's it's interesting because like, let's say, for instance, myself,
I'll talk about my my little journey. I wasn't the
most likable person back in my early stages. I had
to learn some shit, why what made you unlikable? Because
I was I was kind of being that pick me girl.
Oh yeah, hey, why aren't you working with me? Why

(05:25):
why are you working with these other bbw's but you
won't work with me? Pick me I'm here, you know,
like that type of else.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I mean, maybe I would say everything, but why are
you working with them and not me? But what's wrong
with asking someone.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
For some people? Because some people don't know how to
say no or even respond too. So as a BBW,
I feel like I have such a limited pool of
people to work with as a as a creator. Right,
But back to you know, like the you know why
girls don't get along? It's just their personalities don't match,
or they hear something so that it's all hearsay. And
so what I really try to do as someone who

(06:01):
has had that happen to me, I just try to say, hey, look,
you want to get to know me, then get to
know me. Don't go buy off of what somebody else
was said or what my actions were five years ago.
I've grown, I'm different. I'm not the same that I was.
Better know, they don't let bitches grow. They don't let I've.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Done grow speaking, I'm still growing. I do want to know,
how is your weight fluctuated since starting porn? And when
it has, how's the money changed? Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
You know what, Honestly, I don't even think it's so
much about how much my weight is fluctuated. It's actually
how hard I put my work into my business. It's
not even about my weight most of the time. Like
I have guys that wanted me to be a feedie,
which means I'll eat, eat, eat right and grow grow grow.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I also had the gastic surgery, but I wasn't as
successful as you have been, which which Gastrick, did you
leave you had to.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Sleep as well? Yeah, my mom just had it, and
I think even on tour, so many of our fans
have chosen to have it.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
But yeah, it's it's not the easiest things psychologically.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
At all, Like, yeah, when did you do it?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I did it in twenty fifteen, so this is two
years pre prior to getting into the industry. So I
was in a marriage. I was happy, be I'm gonna
quotate that because it wasn't happy at the end.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Obviously it was not divorced, but have good relationship that
in she says, just call what it is, Okay, call
it what it is.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I was happy, I was happy, but when I decided
to do the surgery for myself, just so I can
maybe even be more happier, okay, right, because I was
having a hard time moving around and going out down
the stairs, like I was really finny. Although now it's hard,
but it's not as hard as it was because I'm
like one hundred pounds lighter. Oh wow, Yeah, but I
have gained back. I actually lost almost one hundred and

(07:49):
fifty pounds.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
So can you not say that your surgery was then unsuccessful,
because that is a feat in itself.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
You lost the whole human being I did.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I lost a whole lot of weigh and have gained though.
But the fluctuation part is it does. It comes with emotions,
it comes with situations that happen in the industry or
even in my life in general. But I have such
a close, deep like connection to my work that it's
almost just all the same. It's just all big one.
I'm mean, what do you mean you.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Have a deep connection. I don't mean that in a
condescending way. I mean, like, I've heard one other person
that works in like content adult contecreations that like, I'm
just so connected to my work, and I'm laughing. I'm like,
you what you.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Do honestly, Well, honestly, I just I love what I do.
And when I when I love what I do, you
can see it on camera. You can see it. It resonates
through all my work.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Does it make you feel mean, what do you love
about it? Do you does it make you feel just
super sexy? Do you love? I just love.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I just love being able to fuck all these men
and women and just have a good time. It's my
only life that I get to live in this life,
can I ask? So I'm gonna live it and have
fun with it.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
So, so two years before you started your content creation journey,
you got the gastric sleeve, you lost the weight, but
then also got into content creation as a BBW.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I was still a BBWs two hundred and ninety pounds.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
So do you feel like leaning into the BBW category
also kept you maybe from losing more of that weight?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Probably definitely, because I think I wanted to make sure
that I was the audience and my audience and your
audience that wanted you.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Like, I think that that's the hard part.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like it's so weird because you have society. But also
I would.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Say, other women, more than anything, make you feel as
though you're unworthy of love or being fucked.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
You feeling the most from that's a good thing. Yeah,
Like do you feel it more for men or women?
When it's like what do you mean? Like just like
overall making you feel like your weight is too much
or hearn's way anything to me.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know, it's it's honestly for me. I get a
lot of hate from men, really I do. I get
a lot of like really bad comments on my techotox,
in my in my Instagram reels. I get some nasty one.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
So publicly met Yes, absolutely, yes, personally it was women.
So it was women that when they found out I
was fucking the same men as them. The men would
tell me what these women would say about me, Oh,
they made it seem as though I should be lucky
I'm fucking or they couldn't believe that the man that
they were fucking was fucking.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Me because oh my god, ill you like that?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
And so personally, women, anytime they didn't like me, it
was always my weight, yes, my first attack and then
everything else, but my weight was always the number one
attack from women on a personal level.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Again on the internet.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yet, right, men, no, I could say, you know for sure,
now that I think back to it, You're right. Women
do also have that vicious attack, like Eric, why are
you You're You're not supposed to have this hot ass man.
I have a story time with Julie, really quick, Come on,
we want to hear about a recent story too. Give
it to a fine ass man lives in Vegas. Oh girl,
let me tell you. When I a fine I mean

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describe him six six muscular, he's like caramel tatted or
tatted up, big dick or not. Yes, well he lied,
he lied about something, and I'm not gonna a big liar.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
How dare you?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
So I'm waiting for him to come down to his
his building to come get me so he can go
up because I don't have access obviously like that. It
was in a nice place. Well, now you got money too,
let's go. He's hot, Okay, I'm sorry, that's a god damn.
So anyways, I'm waiting and there's this this, this skinny girl,
and she's waiting for her friend. So her friend comes in.
I'm just chit, just nice. I'm a pleasant person. I

(11:43):
don't I don't give off bad vibes.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You know, Hey, how you doing? Oh yeah cool?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You yeah, you visited?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Cool? You know you're just.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Trying to make conversation. He he That elevator door opens.
I'm sorry, I just flashed back for a second. The
elevator door opens and He's standing there shirtless with these
just semi short shorts on, just looking fucking Oh. My
heart started raising. I looked at him, he looked at me.

(12:11):
They looked at him because they stopped because they were
before me. I let them go first.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh, I know you.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I didn't know that he was coming down like that though.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Girls uh huh uh.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
They walk in and I walk around, and he comes
straight to me and wraps his arms around me and
kisses me. And these girls were appalled. They were you
felt the judgment.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh, I felt the judgment. Hardcore?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Wow, hardcore, and we both him and I both looked
at each other and just burst out laughing after they
got off the elevator. I love that he felt that
they were looking.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
He was like damn. He's like, damn.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I didn't think that they were going to react like that.
And I was like, do you realize how hot you are?
And do you realize who I what I look like.
They don't see that. They don't see that that's a
possible thing, that this man can be attracted to me
and want me over your skinny ass.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know I did. He did a guy that was
super skinny, maybe like like that scrawnny with whis Kalifa
used to look like. And he told me that when
he had dated bbwi's in the past, I was like,
is this fucked up? Or is it No?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Let's be very clear, the skinnier the nigga, the bigger
the bitch.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
He told me, I don't like being out with women
that no one expects me to be out with. He's like,
I love it. He's like, I love girls staring at me.
I like niggas looking at me like I'm wrong. And
he's like, he's like, it's something about it, Like I like,
I just I'm out with someone they don't expect me.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
But also loves me.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Very clear that skinny niggas.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Don't want to start a fire with y'all tweeg as
bitch it. They want a little loving, a little more
cush push.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Now they found that when you're dating these dudes and
or fucking them or whatever, it happens. Uh. We had
an episode recently about trans women and with trans women
and they were talking about feeling hidden and one of
my friends, who is BBW, was like, girl, I felt
so triggered because I feel like I have so many
dudes that want to fuck me and we don't go
out anywhere together. Have you experienced that recently or just

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any time in your past and tell us a little
bit about it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, you know, as as someone of my status now,
I get a lot of people trying to you know,
hit me up, take me out, you know, things like that.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And I'm very.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Selective about who I do that with just because I
can be right. But when I have, you know, like
allowed that to happen, sometimes I feel like I do
get judged a lot, you know, for being out with
somebody who's you know, really hot, or even if they're not, Like,
I still get looked at because I'm a big girl.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I don't get to not get looked at even when
I'm walking.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Even when I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Walking, like just anywhere I can be walking around New York,
people are looking at me.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I know they are. Have you I do I do
in a relationship where you knew it was just sexual
but that you guys didn't go out in public or
oh for sure? I think that.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I think that because of uh And I mean that's
this is recent. That's even with the six with six dude,
we've gone out and he's also gotten scrutinized when we've
been out together these women to his face, yes, wait
with me sitting there in the in this club we
went to after Hours.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I love the stories.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Let's go, and we went to after Hours. I'm with him.
This is one of the first times he really like
hung out, like outside of the bedroom.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Right. And so.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
We're sitting there, I'm eating food, He's rubbing up on
me's touching on me, like making me feel like I'm
the best goddamn thing out there.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Right, It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And these women, this older woman had said to him,
without me hearing, you really don't have to be doing that.
You don't have to be selling your body, you don't
have to be doing this. They thought I paid him.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
They thought I was paying him to be with me.
Do you know who the fuck I am? Right right?
I thought he was a jiggalo.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
They thought that you yes, yes, when it was nothing
but mutual fun.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
And after that he said, hey, come on, let's go.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
He was mad.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
He was like, I'm total turned off he's and then
we just fucked for a long time.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
How I feel like you've probably heard it all, But
when you hear it all, are you at this point
where like you can be blind to the bullshit.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I try to be because I don't want it to
to make my life unhappy. I don't. I don't want
to listen to the naysayers or the people who have
negative things to say. You know, I try to live
my life in a positive way. I really really do.
Back five years ago, not so much because I was
trying to figure out who I was in this industry
and even just as a person. And so over these
last five years, I've definitely grown and changed and just

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don't listen to the bullshit and the negative things anymore.
And so when I go out with someone that's that hot,
I stand on my shit. I have that confidence now now, Yeah,
I wanted I didn't have it.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I want to wait. I wanted to ask you though,
when you were talking about people staring at you. We
see a lot of content now surrounding people. Just I
feel like there's this weird Okay, have you seen the
girl that got on the airplane and was trying to
act like people were looking at her? She was wearing leggings.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
And it feels like she's that really tiny yes, but
huge wide ass.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I was like, oh my god, I can't fit and
da da da da. People are making content like that,
almost like they're trying to get you to like set
of celebrating the business bigness. It's weird. But what I
wanted to ask you was things like that. On an airplane,
where are people making you feel the most uncomfortable?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, well, I've I've thankfully found an airline that gives
me a free extra seat so I don't have to
worry about being judged trying to get past people. I
used to feel really uncomfortable in an airplane. We're talking
what airing is that?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Southwest?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Oh? Yes, really they have for a person of size,
complimentary seat and I spill over most certainly, I do
so having someone and I've I've unfortunately been in that
situation where I'm I'm I'm all.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like this, it's very uncomfortable. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Soya, no, no, no, people don't understand, like even if
you go back and watch episodes from twenty seventeen. I
got my my gastric sleeve in twenty eighteen. I remember
when I went out just with my coworkers, we went
to six Flags. I literally couldn't fit the rides at
six Flags.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I had to be.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Removed because they couldn't close the clamp on me. That's
when I decided it was time when I couldn't ride
roller coaster rides. And when people watched, they're like, you
weren't that big. You don't know, you don't like, you
don't understand.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
And I was even telling her, sure you, well, well
that's the thing why people don't know well, And on
five foot one, I was two thirty at my biggest
do the math. They literally couldn't close it over me
on the roller coaster rides. But also in terms of
flying in planes, where most people are like, I want
the x RO because it's more room, those are actually

(18:44):
also the seats that don't lift up. Yep.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
So I remember me and my best friend one time
we both went to Miami and I had the x ROW.
She had something else, and I literally wanted to change
with her. She didn't want to change, and she didn't
realize that I literally wanted to change because I felt
so squad in the exit right and I had to
open to her that the little hands lifting let my
hips breathe. Baby, And having that airplane experience, having the

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experience in the roller coasters, also living in New York
where boots don't go up my leg.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I have to bundle.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
So now I look three hundred pounds even though I'm
like it was those things people don't consider when you're overweight.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, most definitely, And you know what you're touching on
the roller coaster aspect is really funny because that's one
of the biggest reasons why I want to lose weight
is because I want to be able to ride a
roller coaster. Again, I haven't written once since I was
like sixteen, so it's.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Been twenty years.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Never have thought it's been twenty years since I've been
on a roller coaster.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Many talked about clothes a lot. We've been doing this
show year, so I'm always hearing you talk about clothes, booth. Yeah,
did not even think.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
About like certain I see literally just activity or riding
a horse like I love horseback riding.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Haven't ridden a horse since I was a kid. Wow,
you know I just bought up six flags one of
my tricks. Yeah, blew me to I was Abu Dabi
with one of my tricks. Once we went to uh
Ferrari World, Okay, literally had to get off a ride
with my We left because it wouldn't close.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
And they closed on him.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Was so uncom It's uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's you and you get looked at and you're like, oh,
don't look at me, Like I don't want to. I
don't want to draw attention. And that's one of the
biggest things as a big person, I think that we
try not to do is to draw attention. But you know,
with my my look, it's not easy to not draw attention,
you know what I mean. It's like I get looked
at no matter where I go, so and I don't
feel uncomfortable much anymore because I think I've grown so

(20:36):
used to being looked at that I just hey, it's me,
take it to leave.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
It, get the fuck out, Like I don't care if
I want to make this positive just a little bit.
I want to get into our vanilla ship.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah. Well, so no no no is a.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Little positive because it's giving affirmations. We're about to get
into some affirmation.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I thought you wanted to bring up no, no, no oh,
I am.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Going to bring up the breakfast club. So so motherfuckers
just got dragged. I'm only gonna mention Charlemagne, not the
other person. So Charlemagne got dragged recently for bringing up
or speaking about Resa Tisa, who was popular with her
thing on TikTok, about her relationship with a pathological liar,

(21:20):
and he referenced that as big back behavior. Of course,
he later did apologize, called her big back but I
wanted to speak about with you, No, he called, he did,
he said, he said, he sounds like big back behavior, right,
and then literally then the other person who shall not
be mentioned, continue.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Going on, called a Sheila from some goddamn show.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
And then literally he did apologize later because of course
he is a mental health advocate.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Way bitch that's looking at me? Because I hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait,
the tip that I saw said she's reading him.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
We can bleep that out. We can't say the girls
on the show, that's fine, were gonna bleep the name.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Okay, she's going over the story. I'm that's right, that's right. Story.
And then Charletane' is listening and he's like, oh, this
sounds like big bead behavior. What she looked like facts?
But I didnt even hear him like look at her
say no, no, no, But regardless, hold on, bro, where's
the fucking line? Now? What line? He said that he

(22:23):
didn't call her.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Fat, No, he said his big back behavior.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay. Then literally.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
The person next to him said she a big bag.
She provided me up so it was confirmed.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
On the side.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Then she goes a big girls Tisa goes on tammern
Hall show and lets it be known that with all
of this nice ouacklip, that that those words her the
most coming from that platform. By the way, Charlemagne, in
his due diligence, has sense apologized. Nonetheless, I want to
get on you to be a little mouthy, so you know,

(22:56):
I want to get into however, what are affirming words
for plus size women or women of stature? Because I
talk about it, and I did talk about it often
men A few men love to call me fluffy. While
we have had a guest come on and say I
love fluffy, Fluffy didn't really sit too well with me.

(23:19):
So I would love to know which words you find
to be affirming in and out of the bedroom for
men and women to describe a plus size.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
But yeah, I mean, there's always the go to volumptuous.
I feel like that someone's so fun to say you're
so volumptuous. It's like sexus volumptious girl, now is there?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Hold on, is it bluious? Volumptuous? I like to say delicious?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, okay, ye delicious, yeah, volumptuous.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
It could be it's a Julie word just.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
To be that gotta be the I don't know the episode.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I like, I mean, I like being called kurvy because
you know, I you know, it's not negative, it's not
necessarily curvy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I
don't mind being called a big bitch because I am one.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I said about it, I'm a big bitch. That was
okay to say.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
That's okay to say because we are, and any person
who is big doesn't accept that. And if you're like,
for instance, like yes I'm fat because I am.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's just a statement. It's just what it is.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
You know. Yes, I'm trying to be healthy, you know,
trying to shed some weight off me, but I'm I'm
a big girl.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm fat.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
So your partner in the bedroom or out can refer
to you as my fat bitch.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Bring that fat ass over here like he's fat as
it says it in like a you know, very positive way. Sure,
but don't come up and say, ooh you fat, you know,
like with that negative tone, like you could say fat
in a positive way. I I hear some fat positive sentences.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Oh girl, that ass is so fat. Okay, yeah, but
that's PhD pH at.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
It could be. It could be do p h A T?
Can it just asses?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Because I feel like even because even so, it's how
you say the word, it's how you content. But the
reason why I also say the p h A T
is because going back back porn category, POGs right is right,
badass white girl?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
But it's literally spelled what a P. I think it's
just a.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Fog is weird? Yeah, I really do know.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I mean it's it's just contextual what it is.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
If we put fat like the spelling that we're saying,
I feel like fog is weird.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
But literally maybe fog makes sense. Yeah, okay, see pog
makes sense. Don't make no goddamn sense either, make whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Let's get into that. You know, like, have you been.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Referred to as a talk about Paul, Yeah, I've been
for you the badass girl.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Let's like, yeah, that's a myth or not? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Are you mainly.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Dating black men? And is it because you me? Why
do black men love big white girls? I don't know,
do you find that like white guys are just.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Not I never had sex with a black man until
I moved to Iowa and I was twenty one. Iowa, bitch,
those black people in Iowa. I lived in central Florida
when I was a teenager. Oh step up city. But
you know my white ass too, my pau gas mamla
ow calla.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
You wasn't fucking black man?

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You no, you wantn't know why because I wasn't. I
never really noticed that man.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Wait, she was married. I wasn't married yet.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I was a teenager girl, I was. I was only
like when I lived in Florida, I was between the
ages of twelve and twenty. Did you your identity when
you losked in Virginia at twenty years old? That's why, bitch,
you started earlier?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Knew? Did you?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Never had any black men really like press upon me though,
That's what I'm saying. I never really anybody like come
and be like yo, I'm way maybe, And I don't
think I was prettier back. I'm way prettier now than
I was back when I was younger. Like, hell, yeah,
I blossomed, come on, blossom you. So I'm like, I
feel like the eyes always get it. So yeah, I

(27:16):
moved to Iowa and met this guy and we started.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Black guys one year after virginity.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, that's what it was, but that was only I
only that was like one and then like I only
mess with like white guys for a while, and then
like I married a white guy and then after that
it clicked. I went you said, these crackers, Yeah, oh
pretty much, these crackers.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
What why? Why though, do you find that black men
are more like they do more body worship. They're they're
attracted to your body.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
You're passionate and all all honestly, like even the white
guys are very vanilla. No white guy ever was with
was really like any black man I've ever been with,
swear to guy, Hey, hey, hey, it's too much, too much. Actually,
I'm a very honest person.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, you know like it?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Well, well I would like to know Weezy bringing up
the body worshiping again.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
As a by the way, I brought that up because
any friend I had that was big and they were like,
oh no, I always say that.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
They used to love to rub my stomach, and of
course for me, it did make me uncomfortable. So in
body worshiping, specifically as as a plus size woman.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Where do you where do you like being touched?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Like? And what is okay? What is uncomfortable? I love
booty rubs.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I mean, no, who doesn't love a good booty rub? Right?
I don't mind my stomach being rubbed on because I
think I've just gotten so used to it as time
has gone on that it has just become something that
happens with most guys that I hang out with or
that i'm with. Like I I'm very sensual when I'm
when I'm really into somebody, but like when I'm filming,

(28:56):
I'm I'm you know.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Doing my job. You know I don't.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I don't usually gets unless I'm really into you. That's
pretty much where I'm at. But like, I don't mind
how my belly rubbed on. Like I rub on my
belly too, Okay, I slap it, I play bong gos
on it. But you know I'm yeah, I like to.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Be touched all over touch melchool No. Wait, So I
was gonna say, is there a fetish community that you've joined?
And by joining that? So, I had a super BBW
that I worked with, and she used to tell me
she would go to BBW party, She's like, but I

(29:37):
have to go to the super ones. I'm not. I'm
like almost too big for the regular ones. Are you
a part of a community and do you enjoy meeting
people there or do you feel like this it's too fetishy.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean, the the porn industry with the bbw's, it's
its own little community in itself, and I'm cool. I
try to be cool with everybody, you know. Outside of that,
there are some like BBW bashes and events that I
like to attend that are not necessarily in connection with
the sex work industry.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So they're just like plus size acceptance type.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Parties, and so like that's where I think I feel
like the most comfortable because it's just all all body types,
even girls, y'all sizes will come because it's so it's
just so inviting. So it's not just it's inviting because
we want everyone to feel accepted and comfortable, and if
we turn away people who aren't of size quote unquote,

(30:37):
then we're the hypocrites, right, you know, because then we're
basically shunning and shaming skinny people, and that's not I.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Don't know if you remember, do you remember when we
went to Jamaica, for hedonism. So Missy the New York
promoter that brought a lot of people there for that
specific weekend, she's plus sized friendly and that's I don't
know if you remember a lot of the people that
were there, but her her following does do that. Like

(31:06):
so they throw sex club parties and then hotel party
specific to men who love plus size women and plus
size women to feel comfortable in a room with they're
all over.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
They shaming right like in that category. I know skinny
girls feel like they could be shamed too. I feel
like there's a small line. If you're Coiler Ray skinny,
I do believe you could be body shame. People are
very mean to Coiler Ray, and it's like when you're
that kind of thing, it looks like she's been that
way her whole life. She has that very like gymnast
Valerie thin thin body to me, that kind of thing.

(31:37):
When I see body shaming, I think it's fucked up,
just a little regular look. You can't be out here
saying I'm not thinking that I've spoken to this and
I kind of actually do not care who I offend
when I say this. In terms of people who do
feel like there's a skinny shaming happening. The difference in
the difference between fat shaming and skinny shaming is that

(32:00):
skinny people are able to still walk into stores and
fit the clothes.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
They can still do everything that can happen by for data.
Their day to day life does not change because of
their size when people aren't I get it, but but
that's where like for me, when they try to compare
their plight to fat shaming, those are two separate things.
If you are skinny, don't come at a fat woman
and say, oh my god, I'm body shamed too. There's

(32:27):
not a There's zero comparison between someone being too small
and body shamed, maybe because someone is looking at them
not as sexually or whatever. Literally, their day to day
life can happen without their size affecting how they live.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I would agree.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I've just I brought up coiler Ray because that was
some of the meanest shit I've seen recently, Like I
would even equate it to the way that Lizzo can't
post a picture without them talking about her body. Don't
I see one nice thing about Coilerat, who's cute, adorable,
kadance and she raps it was like boom boom boom.
I mean on that shit would make me insecurious about
especially because you're in the world where the rapper girls

(33:05):
need to be thick. Let's be very clear.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, Cardi also just dropped her last video and the
way they spoke about Cardi's body.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
No Cardian and color no no no. But what I'm
saying is coilor ra is that but.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
People talking about BBLS, people talking about skinny shaming, I
one hundred percent will stand on it is nowhere near
the f shaming experience and the actual experience of someone
who is plus size.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's true, it really, I'm not saying it's not. I'm
just saying I do think that level of skinny has
definitely no just human suck. But that's car being shamed.
Human suck. Now, that's just to be very human. Yeah,
we have to think of the prototype of what people
think the perfect body is in this era, you know,
but there is no perfect There is no perfect body.

(33:52):
But that's there is no perfect body. And you can't
tell everyone to do the same makeup that you can't
tell girls that are showing the same doctor.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
But there's the delusional is also subjective.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Let's be very flee because the same way you have
men that like you at whatever size you've been.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Now because you've shaped, you've changed your side.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
The same with me.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I really think that the men who are hold on
I'm being serious.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
You really think in the era of today, beauty is
subjective according to the Internet. I think that in reality, yes,
this is true, but there isn't clear standard of what
girls like to look like today.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I mean, come on, I'm gonna say that, not anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's subjective because you still have those that fallen over
the BBL.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
We are now getting into the natural girl era. We
also have people who.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Have gone to the BBL and remove those I think
it's shifting. But bro, the Kim Kardashian era of the look,
the eyebrow, the hair, even I don't know. I definitely
think there's a way that society has pushed girls to
kind of look at too.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I also think it depends on your city. Even me
going to the to the to the Midwest. With tonight's conversation,
the girls that you clearly know was like them. Girls
look completely different than the girls that we're gonna see
in New York or.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Atlanta or La or La.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
It depends where you're at as well, and option Base.
What up bread Brendon, y'all make sure you get your
tickets now.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
May fifth, we are at the Earth Theater in London's
and we made this a specific request to be in
London on the weekend so that our all of our
euro people can come and see this.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
We want our whole Europe and Europe pull.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Whatever, all the black people that live over there, just
take that another fucking Eurostar and come and see us.
We're gonna be there. May fifth. We are having a
whole new show, one that you didn't see. This is
a part of the Climax tour. So even if you
were on the Climax Tour and you need a little trip,
it's gonna be warmer, it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Come through and see a that's right. Make sure you
head on over to hohrehive dot com and get your
tickets now.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Speaking of though, we got bananas here, I want to
get into our motherfucker hoard dirt because baby, you said
you about to show us some things.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Am I?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
So yeah, our hoar drive portion of the pot is
where oh wait you I face say, I I say
I was gonna put a banana in my mouth, you
feel me? Hold on not the producer like everyone your hair.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
She's okay.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
So, by the way, I learned this literally from the
Discovery channel. Y'all both opened it wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Banana bottle the body. Oh, this is the this is
the girl.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
See.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I opened up mine looking really good. So I know
what your problem is perfect birth, sof not mine already
being a little brown. It knew I like some brown,
bad brown.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
She will okay, all right, give us your dick tea chest,
give us your dick sucking tip.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
First of all, who doesn't love a good banana.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
That's a good curve, isn't it. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Like I had an ex boyfriend with the perfect curve
and this was it, damn And I loved it because
it was like the perfect down the throat action, straight
and narrow for me.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Know, I like to give a little I get a
little lick. Oh you do the giggle. That's very porny.
You giggle.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Wait, you giggle on the Okay, wait is that one
of your you giggle on the test. They like watch
to watch my porn to find out, I guess.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Okay, So okay, Also, wait, I need you to moan
and talking to this mike while you do this. Come
on production, let me audio experience a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
So for me personally, when I'm when I'm doing it right,
like I like to lick on it and like tease
it because it kind of you know, gives that sensuality.
But when you're ready, when you're ready.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Okay, you just kind of h.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Mmm, I like to like you like talking here, you
love that ship way you talk. You fake talk on
a dick. Sometimes I like to gag, but you know
this isn't quite as thick as what most.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Right now lunch right now. No, I love having that
mmmm hmm m oh, it's so good.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Okay, okay, okay, so talking so you tease, that's a
part of your poor play.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Hell yeah, I mean okay.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
They want to they want to have that, you know,
same you know type of like you know, how long.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Do you sease before you actually go ham? Because how
long is it before you childish? And he's like, bitch,
if you don't suck this guy down.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
It just depends on the vibe and the energy that
they give off or like the way they either maybe
moan or.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
How hard they get. I guess like that's a good yeah,
Like I'm realizing, like sometimes the teasing can make it
even harder.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yes, you know like that that that that line part,
like right where the whole kind of makes that mush.
I don't Yes, I like to lick and touch and
play with that part because I've noticed it sometimes and
it depends on the guy. It makes them super hard
and but sometimes you just have to swallow the dick
to get them hard to. I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Men are weird with your dicks. There is there a
conversation that you have at all to see how this
man probably likes to be pleased from the stick, Like
what what are questions you ask in regards to do
you prefer hands? Do you like it messy?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Like? Kind of what are those conversations? Depends on the
guide to you. Sometimes they come ready and sometimes I don't.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Have to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
But you're right too. Let me know you like me right?
Do you think you can do you think I could
take this all the way down my throat?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
How many hits of the five?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
About five?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I was about to say, No, this is this between
my finger and thumb is like five inches like you yeah,
to the back of your throat.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Oh my god, who four star bitch? Oh and brought
having the back at me because she's choking. Oh, I'm sorry, guys,

(40:27):
she said. She gag goes down.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And I'm gonna eat it.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh no more.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
No, he was red my face. I know, I'm good.
It just broke off, so I had to like get
it up some sorry about.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I've watch so many videos where like pain and no
one helped.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
By the way men like that, not the not the
Oyes water y'all, y'all.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Bro I almost choked last night. And while I was choking,
I stopped and he goes, do you think I give
a fuck about? I was like, oh my god, this
is such a meaning I like.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I liked I honestly. Okay, So one of my one
of my kinks is I like to choke on dick
so much that makes me like almost pass out. Okay,
so it's hot. I don't know, but I was sucking
since I was fourteen. So I mean, I'm just an
expert at this place.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
And it took you six years?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah we both did, bitch, it did?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
It took me six years?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Hears the ship out of me, like with team pregnancy,
and can I also be can I also be very serious?
This is why they call women like you Becky, Like
y'all would.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Suck dick really early, like you know you you definitely
proved that myth, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Wow, So I want to just kind of ask you
a little bit more about this.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, I know I need to tell somebody that look
at this.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I know, so I know about sucking dick until you
throw up? What is sucking dick until you almost passed out?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
It's like you get to the point where like your
airflow is like obviously you're cut off, right, and then
you kind of start like seeing stars. And then that's
when I how does he know?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Like?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
What is? What is? He don't need to know. It's
my job to know.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's my king.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
You don't need to know. He just needs to enjoy it.
So what do you?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
What is your Do you push him off of you?
Do you? You know? I just I just pull off.
And you know, cause I usually tell most guys I'm
in control here, you're not. I'm the one who's exactly
it's my dick that I'm sucking, and you're gonna you're
gonna enjoy it, and I have no complaint.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Have you never? Have you ever passed out my accent yet?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Never?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I mean, okay never, I'll never let that happen because
I've learned and controlled it and been doing it for
so long that I've learned to control like the like
I wonder my.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Cause I don't see stars. I just get a little
my focus kids glory. Then that's that's a.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
That's a.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
That's about the right point.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I be hating, bitch, I just got my last is done.
Don't maybe cry. I don't let my eyes water. I
don't like the gag. I fake gag right on the tip.
I do like that. Oh god, you have to make
me uncomfortable. Don't touch my head. It just got done.
Did you pay for this?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Actually? You know something I want to say that I
think a lot of women don't know about too much
spit or gagging. If you have it so sloppy to
the point where they can't feel it, men need friction.
It can't be Yeah, it can't be totally destroyed. And
also it'd be going down their booty crack like you
kind of that's what they like, and you saying booty
crack on motherfuckering horrible decisions like we ain't motherfucker goes

(43:34):
bootlehole every man in this real wolf Do you like
that at in? I mean no, no, no, no dude.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Do you want to spit going to your boothhole?

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I love it? Answer you don't like it either. I'm
telling you I'm not going no no, no. It's not
like they play it. Couldn't stand up stuck great, then
it's uncomfortable for men. It's different if.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
You're in it, so I ain't gonna hold you though.
That's where I've let my tip go.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
If you really is sucking and making making it so
wet that now my spit is.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Going down to your to your boot hole.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
What I like to do. That's where I like to use.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
My my knuckles. Now that's no, I'm not playing with
one knuckle. Don't look like that. So the knuckle is
just to where it's moist crazing. It's not crazing. I'm
just grazing. And technically it's like Winch shield wipers in
the bouta crack.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Okay, I have a thing. If he's fully naked, then
I'll do it. If there's the gens are on, if
we're in the car if you just pulled it down
a little bit, you can't be making that much of
a mess, right.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
You have to know when to make the mess and
when not to make the mess. That's a fact, iful, Okay.
And the other day I was stuck in this dick
and I said, sir, I have a full face on.
If you don't take your goddamn wife beater and Khaki's off,
my whole face about.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
To be all.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
You got to get naked.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
You gotta be maked. Can this face is beat and
it will end up on you?

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
And I told Kaki the white beater got to come
off playing. My mouth is like a waterfall, so like
I have to tell them. I put a towel underneath
their ass and say, hey, look you're about to have.
Mouth is a water You're about to have one of
the sloppies blowjobs you've ever had. So I'm please it
on a towel, so we're good. I don't get my
bed wet or you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, no, hunt, I.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Have literally two two waterproof like towels that I bring
with me. Wait, you travel with waterproof towels? I have
to because of your head game. I'm so in you're
a squirter. I was trying to say, but my head
game is sloppy. It's it's really good.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
So I'm only seeing one of your videos.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Well, I gotta watch all the other ones. I would
love to know real quick. Yes, you know that you
are a squirter. You know that your head is sloppy. Yes,
you travel with waterproof towels. Can you please narrate how
you have to lay this down prior to having sex
with maybe a new partner.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
That isn't a word, like, how do you even let
them know gott to.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Lay the soul?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I mean I just basically say to them, hey, I squirt,
I laid down this towel to help keep everything dry.
I hope that's cool. And a lot of times they're like, yeah,
that's cool. They're like yeah, all right, nobody.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
You're scene and scene and scene and saying I have
a whole mail that I wanted to bring up because
it's all about fetishizing. I want to know where the
line is right. So the whole mail was actually something
a listener sent in to me, okay, and I was like, okay,
it'll be a little tea. I'll read it to the Pika.
She really thought, I don't know. I feel like she

(46:34):
really was trying to check me, and I thought it
was weird just to check you. But also at the
same time, I was like, I guess I see why
she said it. I don't know. Oh fuck, I can't
find her name. Keep talking, keep talking.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Okay, Well, before we get into whole mail, there were
some things that I just wanted to bring up wrapping
up the horrible decision. So I did end up looking
up size kinks, okay, And I just kind of wanted
to run through a few in case someone was interested
in searching certain categories. What they can expect in those
sup size kink, of course comes from Urban Dictionary, because

(47:09):
maybe they made it simple for us. That's being turned
on or aroused at a distinct difference in size and
comparison to your partner. Usually this does include, by the way,
it's not just weight. It also includes height. It includes
muscle size as well as penis size. It is generally
used when referring to a submissive being turned on by

(47:31):
being smaller than their partner. And I wanted to talk
to you about that because where we normally think of
sub and dom in a somewhat physical way, or how
you speak to someone or how you adhere, maybe some
sort of slapping or abuse.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Men then who normally want to deal.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
With you, how do you feel like they enter into
their submissive role being that you're normally larger than them
in size or stature.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
A lot of times they want me to smother them,
and so they'll be up underneath me, and so I'm
able to assert my dominance that way by putting all
my weight or just sitting my big ass on their
face like they want, no, no, she ain't killed nobody.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
How do you do they do?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You have to see usually they tap or well push
my push me up off, like there's breath. Play is
a huge kink when it comes to size play as well. Okay,
I've had people ask me to do giant test content
and I'm not even I'm not I'm under six foot.
But there's certain angles you can do, right, you know
for that, but like you know, small giant, explain what that? Yeah,

(48:40):
So basically giant, it's like, uh, let's say, for instance,
I have like a little little person, right, it's that side.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
It's like a figuration.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
It's like a figurine, like a little figurine person, right,
and so people a lot of times will have the
camera situated to a way it looks makes me look
really tall, and this person obviously is small.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
It's right.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I have had people ask me to squash gummy bears
to represent small people and then turn around and eat
them so that they are stuck in my tummy for
forever and ever, like giant. You ain't even, you ain't even.
They just wanted you to smash some gummy beer.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I'm mad.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Custom custom videos are a really big thing in the
plus size and even regular sex community. But plus size,
you know, big girls, we get a lot of the
really crazy, like what are.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Some of the other weird requests you've gotten? Let's get it,
sawdy fluid stuff?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
How weird is at this point it's not, but we're
talking the other one plus the menstrual cycle ones.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
What about the ship? What do I want you to
do with the ship?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, what they want you to do. Oh,
I've had people ask me to eat it. I've had
people ask me.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
To you for that.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
It depends it's how much I charge, how much how
much you charge? So you never, oh never.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
So that's a hard note.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
But that's a hard note for me. But there are
females that will do it. Yep, there are females who
will actually do sessions with men. We've talked about that, right,
who will eat the ship? It's what's the going rate
for eating your own ship? I don't know because I
don't do it well. How much they done offered you?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
And oh no, how much I would like? How much
I would charge? I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
You don't know that number. You don't know that number
personally because I've I've never had waity.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
How much?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
How much would you charge? You know? You should reach
out to You should reach out to Goddess Nadia, god.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Scat person. Okay, that is her like her bread and butter.
So you you said no to that? I would love
to know before we get into this home mail.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
What is the weirdest request you received that you agreed
to and how much did you get for it?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Quite honest with you, I've really not done anything that
I'm not comfortable with doing. But I can tell you
one of the most eye opening obscure ones was a
man wanted to pay me ten thousand dollars to step on.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
A live animal.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
We hear that, why do we hear that someone.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Is a big fetish? What was the animal?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
It was?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
It was just what a small something small?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
If you wouldn't I would have stepped on my motherfucking
aunt for ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Well, I don't have the has to have the anatomy
to be able to break and scrush, and so I'm
thinking something like making a mouse or something. And to me,
I'm so against that, Like I was really like appalled,
but so intrigued by it, just because I'm like, I've
never had anybody asked me to do this.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I know what you want me to ring U right now.
I went to a fucking DVD store where they had
a bunch of animal porn. It's called Blue Door DVD.
It's on Seventh Street. We were literally walking to a bookstore.
I mean, not be Karsha, I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
We go in.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I'm like, oh yeah, man, let's pick a porn. So
we get through the aisles and one of the aisles
has animals. Oh my god. Right, we go to the
next aisle and we're like, oh shit, like four fucking
tears of animal porn. The place is known for animal porn,
like wait, wait Dog was one of the titles. Oh wait, wait,
they were fucking animals wait BC reality. But also the

(52:21):
smushing was smushing was in there too. Wow.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
And that's the biggest and the craziest one. The other
ones have been more scat related, and because my ass
is so big so that they want to see that.
You know, I've done some scat videos, but it's more
just the act of but not me doing anything with it,
no touching, nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Like how much do you get paid to ship on camera? Charge?
Like four hundred for the video? Shit? Yeah? Yeah, damn.
Have you ever seen the ship come out of your butt?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah? Have you?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
By the way, I looked at my own ship on
a camera. I went to a toilet. It went to
a toilet. You don't know. This is the first time
I've ever seen my own ship, not just looking at it. Wait,
it's called Rise Nation. It's a gym. It's not that great.
I'm not trying to like pub them, but they have
a it's a gym and tribecker and basically there's mirrors

(53:10):
all over the bathroom down to the floor, right, And
of course I'm not sitting my ass doat on the toilet,
so I'm shitty and I'm looking at like, oh, bro,
that's nat. I'm like, oh my god, this is so
fucking hold you. I've never seen it before. I apologize
at the end for any of y'all niggas listened to
eating lunch. The fuck niggas be at work, bro, Sorry,

(53:32):
now y'all going to y'all gotta ship your coffee out anyway.
I know you listen go in there real quick and
be like, oh yeah, how much does it cost to
do a class? And they'd be like, can use your bathroom?
Watch yourself ship. It's the most interesting interesting.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
It was crazy did your did your did your bootle
hole rosebud girl?

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Anyway, it was a simple ship. It was a clean ship.
I'm telling you. It's like a McDonald's ice cream machine.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
For me.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
It's very clean. It's just right out, it's done.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Oh my god, I'm not funny because but you want
to drink fucking matching asta e bowls like I know
you be shit.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I'm two times today bad bro. Let me tell you,
speaking of as much as I be shitting, I'm going
on my longest trip with a dude ever minus when
I lived in Mexico. My EXE. We're going to Hawaii
for a week, and all I kept needing myself is like,
how am I gonna act like I have to keep
taking phone calls? I don't want to share. I'll just
go do it.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
No, your I ain't gonna hold you. When me and
my eggs was together, baby in the morning, you're taking
a shower. Baby, I'm shitting shitt want you in the shower?

Speaker 1 (54:28):
See?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
But that? How well, how comfortable are you with this
person though?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
You gotta be fucked up?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
How comfortable are you see my ass that night?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Anything with him? Except it's just it's not the comfortability
for me. It's just like I don't want him to.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
See you can't believe he knows that you're a human being.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Okay. So speaking of damn, why is the hair everywhere
all over this pillow? Okay?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
So now let's get it.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Here's this girl who gave me a read, but I
don't feel like the read was worthy. Okay. So she
has been listening to Horrible for a long time and
said this in after listening to the episode about the forsome. Okay,
we're at a fourthsome in Mexico with the two with
the lesbian couple with one of which I kept calling
the butch bitch.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Which I don't feel like that was a slur.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
It's not like I called her the one we need
to believe that anyways. I used to really enjoy the podcast,
but recently feel like Wheezy has been reckless when it comes,
incredibly reckless when it comes to a narrative she has
about settling down listening to beginning episodes versus now, it's
just disappointing. This episode put the nail on the coffin,
and it was the foresome discussion. When you allowed your

(55:31):
man to fetish size another gay person and also allowed
yourself to be fetishized by white women, it just didn't
seem to align with the person you've portrayed yourself to be.
And I'm not saying this shit to y'all to be disrespectful,
but as a dedicated listener, it was really disappointing to
hear how to hear Wheezy's side on this podcast. I
hope if y'all see this, you can be more considerate

(55:52):
of the narrative you create around your sexuality, because it's
not giving safe space the way it used to.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Oh now, interesting, no, bitch, you responded, I want oh yeah, ye,
I'm gonna read my oh okay rail response.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
The foursome conversation basically was about this lesbian couple that
wanted to fuck us, and we wanted to fuck them.
First episode of the year, I want to go back.
He was like super interested because the girl had never
had sex with a man. He was like, Oh my god,
this is.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
An opportunity to do something that you know, I'll never
get to do the next thing I don't remember me
for life and forever right exactly, And so it was like,
oh shit, like this is okay. So I said, I
had so much fun.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I lived in the moment. I don't think anything was
wrong with him having a fantasy about fucking a mask lesbian,
especially when that's never you know, has It's so clear
that I was considered of them and their feelings and
us being a safe space to experience a hetero couple
that I really don't know how much I better could
have handled the situation the four of us mutually wanted
to be in. For example, one of them started getting emotional.

(56:49):
He didn't notice because he's fucking enjoying pussy. But I
literally stopped left, went in the bathroom and comforted her
while she was crying. She wasn't uncomfortable about him being
there was more hard provocating, but anyway, So in the scenario,
there was a few situations with them, like gawking over him,
and then she talks about this. Appreciate the acknowledgment. Still

(57:10):
a fan. Didn't mean any disrespect. We're not going to
agree on everything. I wanted to say my peace. Didn't
think you'd respond. It was really the language and actions
playing in his hair and the fixating on her never
have been with a man. It was a bit hard
to listen to as a gay woman who's been fetishized.
That's how I interpreted it. I'm sorry, when are we

(57:30):
going to ever be able to explore anything? Then? Yeah,
like I understand how she might feel because guys have
probably made her feel uncomfortable. Bijon, think you heard me
when I say nobody's wanted to fuck anymore on anyone
more on the planet than these two bigees want to
fuck us. They were ridiculous. So they're fetishizing us, whether
it's black chas dreads us being straight, whatever it was,

(57:52):
Why couldn't we do the same, and also, why is
it super unhealthy to fetishize anything. And so that's why
I wanted to have this conversation with you, because I'm like,
I'm sure someone wanted to fuck you just because of
yourself absolutely all the time. When the time, when is
it okay and not okay?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I think it's on how you how you how someone
comes and approaches you about it. I think it's about
the approach and about the conversation you have about it.
Like there are guys that all the time, you know,
they'll gawk over you. Oh my god, you're so big.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
I just can't.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
You know, I've never been with a big girl before.
I've always wanted to try it. That's the biggest line
I get all the time.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
And you don't like that line. Honestly, I don't.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I don't really care anymore. I really have gotten to
that point where I'm like, I know I'm a big girl.
I know I'm gonna get fetishized. I kind of just
start like going, okay, yeah, I get it all right,
you know, and I just kind of like try to
just not be mean because I get where.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
They're coming from.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I'm I know I fetishized black men sometimes, I know
I do, and I don't mean to but I.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Get so attracted or I get so like, oh my god,
oh my, oh my god, oh my god, what is big?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Like, I know, I do the same thing most definitely
without anything, without any malice, without any malice. It's never
any malice. And behind my fetish sizing. So you've been
able because you know that you look at maybe black
men that way.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
As a white woman, you're just like, I'm not going
to demonize someone for fetishizing me as a bigger.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah, yeah, well either way, you know she's white.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Was really honest, I I.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
And I don't want that to come off as me
being like rude or saying you know that's I do
it all the time. No, it happens occasionally. It's not
like I do it all the time. Sometimes I just
see something that I like and i've you know, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Oh my god, Like I think the mutual fetishizing too, right, Yeah,
let's say that it is because you're white or because
you're big or whatever. I felt like in this moment
when I read that, I was like, damn, I really
and no one else had wrote me saying that they
felt like we were wrong. And I also made a
comment because she did say something about his hair or
touched it or almost touched it, I can't remember. But
I literally went over to him in the middle of

(01:00:01):
it and said, are you okay? Like is this do
you want to go? Because bitch, that's too much. Yeah.
Now he was like, it's okay, it's okay. They're drunk,
they're excited. Like he even stopped me. So I checked
in with him because I wasn't prioritizing the two girls.
I don't know, but I did feel like it was
a mutual fetish thing. I never slept with a lesbian
couple with a lot of women, but like one saying

(01:00:22):
she was Mormon, oh the one never been.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I was like, oh my, this is this isn't fucking
if this isn't if this isn't the opportunity of a
lifetime to know like that, I don't know what is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
And that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
That's why I think like people should start taking more
of those opportunities. It's not being so scared, you know,
like if if you feel like if this person on
your Instagram is saying that they feel this way, that's
one that's one person's opinion, right right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
You had a good time. They had a good time.
Your dude's good, right. That was the first thing I
lad with, I said, I had. I lived in such
the moment. We had sex with them within thirty minutes
of that club. Never forget that. I was like, Yo,
should we stop and have a snack too? Was like no,
I really thought so they did.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
It as much to you as as maybe y'all may
have done it to them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
It was definitely mutual fetishes. And I do think that
shit is that's what we're saying. I said, well, maybe
mine wasn't as bad, but maybe if it's like an
Asian girl or a black girl, maybe it's bad. Then
I'm like, okay, well why do they make the race thing? Okay, No,
it's all kind of if it's mutual. Listen, I'm a

(01:01:25):
super dark skin friend, right, a girl model, very dark,
And she's like, girl, what is up with me? Wanted
to fuck these vampy looking, pale white boys. And I
laughed about it, and she's like, oh my god, it's
like the ones that don't even turn red, they just
get a little blue if they're like outside of the well.
And she was like, I like that shit, And I'm like, oh,
my God, And I know somebody wants you because you're
super dark. So it's like, yeah, now one is obviously

(01:01:47):
more oppressed than the others. That's why then you get
your PC Olympics. But I think as long as we
understand that there may be a fetish and we feel comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Yeah, I agree with you absolutely. I know I get fetishized.
I know that I fetishize people, you know, even sometimes women.
I look at y'all sometimes and I'm.

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You have a very good content schedule. Good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Of horrible decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I'm your girl. V and dv Aka Bett is standing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Hey, y'all, I'm weazy, and we've got a special og
guest in the building.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
By the way she calls it, at this point, every
guest special, So don't feel too special.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I realize, I realize.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
You know, you said what I don't say o G.
You don't say o G so og that's another word
for old.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
They just say. We'd like it's so weird.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
It happens out of nowhere. I felt like it went
from like like you you you know, you start to
get older and then you have two directions. You could go.
You could be washed up or you can be an
o G.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
It's nice and it's you know, there's a point where
it's like, are you gonna be old and washed up
or are you gonna be an o G or a legend?

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Joanna said, let me let me clean this for you
the night you think I was really heading to the
washed up lane, and then everybody start calling me a legend.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
And I was like, I got to say legend.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
There we got.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Legend is better. I didn't call up you are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
The reason I wanted to tell you about the day
that I saw you is because.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Wait, one moment, Joanna angels by camera should girl all
out hello, and it's bad.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
I always wind up looking at himself like an assholet up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
So speaking of legends, I'm at a food convention. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Yeah, last year weren't eating call this year I did.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah. We saw each other, right, yes, And I was
trying to remind you and You're like girl, and I
was like, that's a podcast girl. So the first year
that I saw her, I'm high shitting, I'm with questlove
and I'm not no lie kind of bored. After you eat,
you getting tired, So We're sitting at some panel and
I'm like, am I fucked up in the head? Like
am my eyes deceiving me? Or is that Joanna Angel?

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
So she's so funny because you're sitting next to Questlov
and you're excited about me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Well, look what I do for a living, like a
pretty important guy. That's funny. So I said, it's like,
and I'm expecting that he doesn't know her name. I'm like,
oh my god, I know you don't know who this is.
But then he's like, that's my girl, up starts talking
to this BI. I'm like looking at him while he's
facing me, I'm like cry. And then I come up

(01:06:54):
and I'm like and she's so sweet. I say podcasts
and she's like, God, give me a number. So how
I Know you is mainly when I was growing up,
I only watched Blackborn, But how I Know You is
from HBO, the show Times the Stars. You were really

(01:07:15):
big in that kind of TV when watching the Age
a Van Awards, when we would see documentaries and I
would always hear your name, and there's not many porn
stars I remember from back then. So seeing you now
when I type in your name and it literally comes
up with videos you made. I was so excited to
talk to you because we got to talk with Havana Ginger,

(01:07:37):
who's one of my favorites. And I'm like, damn, when
you see someone that like kind of goes up the
ladder and they've evolved their career, like, to me, that's
the most interesting. Oh yeah, and too, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Havana was just more recent in my brain. But yeah,
tell us what you're famous for.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I'm just like, well, you know, depends on who you ask,
but I guess my my legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Was known for.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
In two thousand and two, I sort of, I guess,
came into this scene. I started the company h Burning Angel,
which was not a company when it started. It was
just a website and then it kind of spawned into
a company, So I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Guess, uh, And there weren't there were very few, if
not any.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
I never want to say the only because I don't
know everything that was going on, but there were very
few performer owned studios, you know, there were very few
you know, performers behind the camera. And there were also
I guess it was like unheard of to put tattooed
people and yeah, really, yeah, isn't that weird. It's like,

(01:08:47):
I don't even like saying that now, that that's what
I'm known for, because it seems like such an obvious no.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
It's crazy that you actually say that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I was just talking to my homeboy and when I'm
at whole parties and things like that, when men, when
men like approached me and asked me, they immediately go
to are you a dancer? And I was like, so
I'm telling him this story about how they think I'm
a stripper every time I go to pool parties and
I'm like, I guess my body, and he was like, no,
it's your tattoos. He's like, a lot of dancers now

(01:09:19):
are tatted.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
The fuck that the hat

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