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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to decisions Decisions.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I don't think you should say decisions decisions. It sounded
like you was talking to Kirsty. You definitely say to welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the new podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You want to say together, decisions decisions, Welcome everybody into
another episode.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Sissy y'all said, Sissy has damn.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I can't say it's your girl, man, dv aka that beach?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hey, don't I kind of hit the note a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think you hit a beat, not a note. Sorrybody,
what is there a difference? You can sell me enough?
Be an off key? I mean, is this one thing
the gap meat tripping? I think I sound just like her. No,
you sound just like tiny desk.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I mean you feel me so given us. Let me
tell you, no, love her down from the bank. We're
not gonna lie here, Oh boy, We're not gonna lie.
We don't have to lie.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It wasn't her day, you know how like sometimes we
come into the studio and it's like.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We're not feeling it. Maybe that was just that day, nigga.
You know who doesn't have an off day? Yance? I
saw her come no, no, no, no. I see some of
the youtubes.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Some days blue is giving way more energy than Beyonce.
You could tell when Beyonce beyonceak well. The vocals were
always vocal, but sometimes she don't hit the note. The
dance steps the same.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We ain't gonna talk about how Beyonce can't dance.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
No, no, no, she does dance, but sometimes you could
tell Blue this this is your show today, girl.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, you give it to him.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That was what happened at the show I was at.
So I went to the June tenth show and I
was like, Oh, this isn't as much dancing as Renaissance. However,
literally I was telling my niggas.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
She came out and I was like, you, Imagina how
much she gotta travel and shit? He's like, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's like, damn, this isn't exhausting life. We just start
talking about it. The way she was singing, I was like,
when is she off? No, her vocals are not Holy shit.
First of all, yah y'all, which is not my jam
on the fucking album. Yeah, when she was screaming at niggas,
I was like, oh my god, this country album is
doing it. Also, this is my first Cowboy Carter show,
(02:11):
and a lot of people have been going because it
hit the state. I didn't know this would happen, and
I don't know if anyone else felt this way.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So I'm out walking around for the show.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I just see a bunch of white people with American
flag gear and fucking hats and shit, dude, and I'm like,
what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is going on?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Man?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And it didn't hit me. Day was going to Cowboy Carter.
So I'm seeing on an American flag.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Where were you at the show where Miley Cyrus came out? Yeah?
Also jay Z comes out two days later. I feel
like this June Teen's play.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I don't know how I
mean Miley was. She was for the culture. I like Miley. Oh,
I mean she's on the album, so I just know. Yeah,
But the fact that y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Niggas got niggas of Harris and I got Piley, don't
do that. Miley is a legend, and you know, I
don't talk about white people too much like that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I love me some Miley.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I was jealous that, Like, if that's the show you was,
I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I've seen jay Z perform. I went to the Blueprint too.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I went to the Blueprint three tour it was like this, Miley,
I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's that's my little white girl right there.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I like her and she sound like she shouldn't sing
the way she sound and talked. She real deep with it, Okay,
I love med at the show where Rumy was a
tidy y'all niggas, and that's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I will say this. So we got there. We're fucking burnt.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Out from cann and from fucking Berlin bergerheind and all
that shit. I woke up and I know that y'all
must think I don't love Yonce because I'm saying this,
But I got my tickets weeks ago. We were so tired.
I saw the clock with six forty five and you
know that show started.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Eight Door was open the city.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I said, maybe we can go see her another day
and he was like, baby, you gotta get it, Like
come on, you can talk about this shit.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I was like, I'll lie. I don't care, I'll lie.
I don't give it. I ain't getting up. So we
put on a TV. I'm like, I just want to
cut up with you, and this is how much TV matters.
And I really was like, I'll go see beonce in Vegas. Something.
That's what I started thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
We watched the TV in France, and you know some
TVs you chrome cast, some hotel TVs you don't. I
didn't turn on the TV the whole time I was
in France. Well, I was tired, so I needed a break.
We turned that TV on and only thing it was
Donald Trump and motherfucking one channel that spoke ly and
(04:32):
it was ping pong.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I said, get up, we're going to CB. I didn't
watch a He's done. He's like, He's like, I'll get
I'll float it up. I'll get it so you can
get companied. Now we get in the car and something.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I just want to say that I appreciate France has
some of the most beautiful men. And again the thing
I think that makes them so beautiful, I'm looking at
black dudes.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right, is there Africans you see?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You know, Africans got that fucking jawline, that model, bone structured,
dark skin.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Tall bro were walking up to Beyonce. He said, what
the girls too, the women, cops, all.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The security and all the policemen, all the police women.
Everybody was fine. Everybody's just statured. He's like, this is
fashion week. What the fuck on.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I'm like, welcome to France.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Figure it was getting ready to be fashion week though, no,
because that's how good look.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But Men's Fashion Week was happening there.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
But Men's Fashion Week was so a lot of people
when I was there, but they were leading up to
it Monday.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Talking about it.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah I was, I wasn't there, so basically, like we
start talking about it, and he was saying to me
and something. I don't know if you've noticed this while
traveling abroad, He's like, damn, I never think of Europeans
as black because euro is white.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I don't think about immigration.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Like you go to London, you meet all these Caribbean
batties because they.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Grew up there.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Like he's like, it just didn't hit me, Like every
bitch I'm looking at bad as fuck and they're they're
born here. Dog. At one point we had a bitch
selling us a hot dog and she was like, the bitches.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Was bad, bitch.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I'm telling you being able to be surrounded by black beauty,
that's just not at home.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
We take New York for granted. You know where you
travel and you're.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Like, who this big is here in they because we're
just outside of our home, just being able to be
out and just be amongst different cultures and languages. We
were in Europe for weeks and it was just it
was just dope and it made me really horny. And
even though we weren't successful at a threesome, something I
found very interesting. We were in the club talking to
(06:32):
this girl in Germany, super sexy, and she's like.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Oh, you guys will love this party. It's an afrobeats
party to welcome.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I was like, you know what, we're in an open
relationship and we really want to pull up with you.
And she's like, oh, perfect, Like perfect, we'll go together.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
When do you guys leave?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I was like, we leave the next day, then we'll
have our night together. We'll have a night perfect. That's
what she said. Next time we're talking to someone else,
we're talking about our relationship. We were in this club
TI nine the way, it's called Phantom Bar.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So she said, seventy five percent of the people that
I meet that are under thirty five are in open relationships,
and some of my married friends are also in open
dynamics too. She's like, when I'm watching content from America,
I see that everybody's like thinking it's so crazy and
so whatever. She's like, I even grew up with my
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mom having a boyfriend but also dating my dad. And
she says that she feels we've been so blocked when
it comes to sexuality because of religion and all these
different things. And I must say, I wonder if open
relationships could be more successful if we weren't in these
current ideas every day. Because let's just say, you're a
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girl who listens to Horrible or a guy that listens
to the show Decisions Decisions, and you're hearing about Mandy
and I and you tell your friends. Are your friends
gonna judge you? Because we all grew up thinking this
shit was bad?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Like? Are we really just a product of where we
came from?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I talk about that in the book literally, biologically, environmentally,
and socially, Yes, Like are like how our families raised us,
the religions that we were brought up, in the environments
we were in. It's why I talk about the privilege
of being able to have my twenties in New York,
like being back in Atlanta. There are light years behind
(08:18):
the sex clubs and sex spaces and lifestyle spaces that
I've been able to enjoy up here in New York,
Like it absolutely is your environment, how your family raised you.
And I think that's why it's so important, Like when
you have autonomy over the type of life you want
to have, the type of sexuality you want to have,
you got to do a lot of unlearning, especially if
you grew up with ignorance, if you grew up in
a religious household that said only monogamy was the way
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to be happier or be in a relationship, or if
marriage is the by all with all of what happenings
looks like with a partner, like or if you're a
woman and you being raised to here you go, here's
your baby, here's the kitchen, a mom is what your
life should be. I think that there has to be
ways in which we kind of unlearn the things because
(09:03):
I don't think anything's really traditional anymore. I think with
social media, with the openness of being able to see
all these different lifestyles like right at our fingertips, I
think that it's been incredible for people not only to
have to visit new places, but listening to this show,
they get to see that there's a lot of possibilities
when it comes to like how you can exist and love. Yeah,
(09:25):
I think I've mentioned that in my antal sex chapter.
I talk about like the homophobia around anal sex growing
up and maybe it being rooted the homophobia specifically being
rooted in the black community because the black community is
ingrained in the church.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And there you go. That's all I gotta say about Dan.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You imagine just thinking you up there being a pastor,
just think you're doing God's work, and really you're fucking
us all up.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We can't come.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We ain't learning all the kind of new sexuality, and
like shit be fucked up the way that like my
ex and I would have conversations and sometimes her religion
we even come into play when.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Never told me this.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Out of her mouth, by the way, but I could
feel I think sometimes Shane about you know, loving a
woman or something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I think it just happens.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I think it's very natural, and it kind of sucks
because the older we get, it's like you either have
to become the person you are and kiss off the
people that. Yeah, right, I got a gay cousband, a
lesbian sister, and I'm Jamaican. So it's really the homophobia
is rooted heavily in Caribbean culture, and so, yeah, I
(10:35):
thought about that, and I mentioned that about my cousin.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm like, damn, we never got to meet his partner.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
He couldn't live in Jamaica because of his sexuality, and
I'm just like, damn. I always wonder like how sad
it was that he couldn't openly live his truth, especially
in the nineties and early thousands. So I got a call.
I got a call every yeah he being if I
call yeah he man. So I wanted to share a
little story time with y'all because Atlanta boy is Atlanta
(11:01):
and in every way which fashion.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
If you guys are patrons.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
By the time y'all hear this episode, you would have
already heard I'm back, single, back out on these streets.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And I guess living in this Atlanta, well, living in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
With a boyfriend, I was always just going out eating,
having drinks with my own boy Keith, with Crystal, with Taylor,
with like my friends. And I wasn't out looking or
seeing at all what it was like in the dating
pool in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So is they're pissing it.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So you know what, here's the thing, and y'all know
I'd like to hold people accountable.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So got this story and it was real, real, real,
real interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So we go out one night and we literally make
it an adventure because I'm like, okay, you and your girls,
just me and Crystal. Okay, because Crystal, so here the thing.
We already know white men don't approach us. But I'm like,
bro we in Atlanta, everywhere we go it was black, like,
let's pick these places. So bitch, I pick a night.
(12:03):
We hit up three spots. We started Little Alley, which
is a steakhouse. We go from Little Alley, actually we
had four places. We go from Little Alley, then we
go to Sauce. We go from Sauce to Red Phone Booth,
which is a cigar bar. In the night at McK,
so we go to four places, mind you MTKA Club
McK is a restaurant lounge, the Speaks in the back.
(12:27):
That's the spot that I'm trying not to go to
too much because it be it be them. So we
start the night off. We go to this steakhouse. It's
a weekend where the ques are out, so everybody got
the purple long. But it's like the old ones, it's
the old heads. It's the Fedora crowd. It's like they're
wearing a jackets from like the eighties and nineties or something,
so it's the old head crowd.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So they run.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Now, I ain't called unfunction in the unction. Let's superunction.
So we go to Little Alley and it's mad guys.
Mind you, they see us right, nobody says a word.
We eat our dinner. We're like, well, damn, there is
niggers in here by the way too. There's a table
across from us. They stare at us the whole time.
Not one word spoken. So I'm like, damn, we ain't
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really starting. It's night off too well. I go to
saus because I know the bartender there. He wasn't there,
and I was like, eh, it's a little small. Let's
hit Red Phone Booth. So we go to Red Phone Booth.
Red Phone Booth is one of my favorite places that
I used to go when I lived in New York.
Still so Red Phone Booth looks so. It isn't speakeasy.
You have to have a number to get in. It's
a members only thing, and it's deep. It's older than
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the Unction. It's like forty five fifty plus. Okay, pullamen pullamen,
it's a cigar bar.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
How they look they got money? Like and they're black establishment.
How are there looking? There's not many women, Oh, there's
not many women. They was hitting out though.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Walked in there was quite a bit. We walk in,
mind you, it is a Friday night. There's nowhere for
us to sit. And the doorman knows me because we
go there quite often. So we we go to walking.
He's like, oh, we have these chairs here, mind you.
We're just really cute, Like there's dress codes at all
these places. We're just cute. There's two chairs in the hallway.
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We both look at him like we're not finna sit here,
Like we're gonna look like we're here to try to
meet some niggas, so so why are you. We're here
for an experiment to see if anyone's gonna talk, like
maybe we'll meet someone. But we're not priced because we
never meet anybody anytime we go out. So we go
to the back room and we get we get sack
(14:35):
caddy corner at it's full of men. Niggas is playing pool.
There's a table of these men. They're all taking pictures,
so you know, the we're I see two girls and
a bunch, like, bru, mind you, hold on, so we're
gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Hold on, we gonna get there. I already knew it.
So I see this group.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
A couple of them look good, very like sharp dudes,
like they got the cigars.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
They're all drinking.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
They're fucking whiskey with the big old ice cube and
the like in the glass. Very very demere, very sophisticated,
clearly wealthy black man.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Because we looking at the watches.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So we sitting there in the corner, don't nobody speak
to us, Don't nobody really look at us. So me
and Crys are like, all right, bitch, well, we're gonna
get a drink. And I'm cracking up because I was like, bro,
they hate us, min Y, I'm talking shit, but like
only to her.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So finally finally we get the menu, I order my gimlet.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Why'd you said they hate us? I'm just like, bro,
this is our second place when we go out. Niggas
do not approach us. And I keep telling her, I said,
because she got his resting bitch face. I said, I
don't know what the fucking gives MANI the night before
the night before, hold on, we go to Cheetah bitch,
we get a compliment on our hair, our genes. Women
approach us all night. Not one man in the strip
club approached us. So I was like, well, maybe because
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we're heating with the naked bitches. We compete it with
naked bitches. Strip club ain't gonna be it. But we
go to I go to Cheetah to eat. That's like
my dinner spot. So anyway, we have red phone book.
We sit here, we order our drinks. Our drinks come.
We keep talking and I'm like, bro, we're gonna smell
like cigars. Like, let's finish our drinks and get out.
Finally we get invited over to the seat. Mind you
(16:13):
shout out to one of the Horrorhive members. She was
an older lady. She said, I know who you are.
She said, but I ain't gonna say nothing because they
don't know who you are. And I said, thank you girl,
And so we like do this little thing. So I
go over and sit down and we start talking. Finally
they buying us rounds of drinks. Crystal comes over, she's talking.
It's like three guys. Finally we go to Yeah, we
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didn't think y'all were gonna speak he lets me know
the breakdown and Atlanta women, I'm gonna tell you what
the men are looking for because y'all are fucking ruining
this shit.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh we were shot. So two things. He said. We
saw y'all walking.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
He said, some girl on TikTok recently made a video
that this is where you come and get a sugar daddy.
So he's like, we've been coming to this place for
the last couple of years. He said, there has been
an influx now o women that come in here, and
it's because that video said this is where you get
a sugar daddy. So he's like, this became our spot
(17:12):
to chill. He's like, now we know we'd being prayed
on when the bitches come through. So he said not so,
he said, we watched y'all come in. We talked about y'all.
He said, immediately working girls is what they thought. Here's
how they knew we weren't, which was crazy. He said,
(17:33):
y'all asked for the menu. I said, yeah, because we
were going to get a drink. He said, that's how
we knew y'all weren't prostitutes. He said, let me tell
you what the girl's doing here here. He said no.
He said, they come in, they'll sit in the corner
order water. And he said, then when you approach them,
mysteriously it's their birthday, they're celebrating, they want all these drinks.
(17:56):
So he's like, we were waiting to see if y'all
actually ordered a drink because the girls come in here,
will drink of water until a man approaches them, and
then it becomes this.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Thing where they order what everything. So I was like okay,
I was like okay. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
He was like, yeah, we saw y'all talk shit da
So I was like, oh damn, y'all saw me because
I was I was clearly cutting up. Then he said
another thing that was really interesting. He said another reason
we didn't really.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Speak to y'all. He said, y'all like skin.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
And I was like, what, Apparently not black men like
black women in Atlanta like brown girls.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And I was like, I forget and I told her this.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I said, bro, it's because we light skin, and I know,
like people assume like there's a there's a and there
is a world yes where that's what people prefer something.
It was so interesting and also like good to know
they were like, yeah, like we like our brown girl
like it's Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I was like, oh, y'all.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Lights kidsage, little light skin bitches. We also wanted to
make sure y'all weren't prostitutes. And it was so so
interesting hearing him a talk about like, unfortunately, light skin
girls have a very bad reputation apparently with also not
being nice, not being welcoming, Like he started, like, you know,
men have their way of the same way we know
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certain men are going to act a certain way. I
want to say this was just one isolated group. I'm
not speaking for it, and like as the main thing,
but hearing this group talk they all had the same
experiences with light skin girls not really being nice and
then girls coming into that specific bar being prostitutes and
not really wanting to talk and so, and hearing how
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people are navigating dating in Atlanta. This is where I
want to hold the women accountable because from my other
friends that I've talked about, who aren't old, who are
in their thirties, who have good paying jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
He said, as soon as.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
They go on dates, the girls are saying what bills
they need paid. This is a common thing. But apparently,
and maybe because the Africans is their tricking. Apparently we
gotta be working. Girls got to be getting their bills
paid somehow. But it's become a thing that, like there's
really no rapport in building a conversation or seeing what
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chemistry looks like. In Atlanta, everything is really, really, really transactional,
and the men are hit that women's out here looking
for sponsors and tricks.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I mean, can we be.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Real here for a second when it comes to Atlanta
dating or big city dating. We said this a few
weeks ago doing Breakfast Lever. I think I mentioned it.
Everybody's dating or trying to date the same niggas, right,
So what happens in these cities, Like we've all decided
who the krem Dela gram nigga is, and everyone's really hmmm.
(20:43):
A friend is coming to mine, who I don't wanna
say sells pussy, but she's so pussy. No she doesn't.
I'm trying to like find the words she's sell experiences. No,
she just always has a nigga taking care of her.
She's just like always that girl that's got a nigga
(21:03):
taking care of her. And I have a lot of
beautiful friends and sometimes it happens for them, sometimes that doesn't.
This girl just always happens right, Okay, she doesn't live
in New York or Atlanta. However, one of the things
she said to me recently was like, girl, I just
really want love right now. And I find that men
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love me and my body and how I look. Because
she does have like a crazy natural body. She's like, well,
I'm just not me and dudes that like actually want me.
I was like, okay, I'm going to hold your hand.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Now. I've known you maybe two or three years, not long.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I've never seen you once go out and scout a
guy because he's attractive, because you want to go see
a movie. I have seen you almost reject niggas coming
to talk to us because they look plain to you.
You have always notoriously dated the same niggas. So now
(22:02):
we're on the phone for an hour about you telling
me how this nigga ain't shit.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But she knew that nigga wasn't shit.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And I think what sucks is the reality of finding
out that, like the things that we're asking for aren't
gonna come in the package that we're seeking. Sometimes, if
you live in Atlanta and you like to go to
the club with your friends and y'all look at the
niggas at tables.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Do you think that's the candidate?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Like, do you think the nigga that's always trying to
get a fucking table. I'm not talking about dudes that
are out with their friends because it's a birthday. I'm
talking about the nigga that's notorially, notoriously going to be
in the same spot, the one that everybody knows, the
one the pro promoter knows, not saying he can't be
faithful and never cheat on you and maybe has no
other children. But let's call a spade a spade. When
you want to meet decent men, how is it going
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to be packaged like the niggas that look like they
ain't shit? For example, if I'm a man, let's just
call a stereo type of stereos side. You have a
fucking BBL and at Kim Kardashi and lip and hair
and you got that look. I'm gonna assume you might
be ah and got a bunch of niggas and maybe
fuck other niggas I know in the club, Just gonna
assume it.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Am I wrong here?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Not saying that the normal bitchain doing that, But there's
a look to those men and there's a look to
those women.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So you can't sit here and.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Tell me how much you want love now whenever time
we go out, you like, oh, look at that niggas
this and that, and you're clocking them for bread. It's
just it's just not gonna happen. Bro, any relationship I
know that's successful. I'm sorry, but like it seemed to
have had some organic start to it. Maybe it was
a dating app, maybe they made a school, whatever the
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fuck it was.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
It's not this I'm scouting niggas tonight vibe.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
And when you start to do that, that's the energy
you literally bring in.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
He's scouting you too, bitch for pussy.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So how is it then that you start fucking the
nigga that just wanted to fuck you, that you just
wanted money from that three months down the road isn't really.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Taking you serious? How how did you fucking start off?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I think that's how a lot of women, though, are approaching,
Like the transactionalness of only going after a guy that
could do for you, not because you like him, not
because you you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Have the same interest.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Like if you going out scowling for the next dude
that's gonna be able to pay your rent, your card note,
or take you on a trip like you gonna end
up with just saying.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
These niggas doing Dog, I'm telling you, like it might
take them a couple of checks. They might have to
say a fuck a couple of checks, Mandy. They probably
own a home.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's probably just taking on a fucking like you because
tricks do it really fast.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well, now I'm just talking about the economy.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We end like all right, But I'm saying when I
say regular, dude, I'm genuinely speaking, I really be thinking
these scammer niggas.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
First of all, I ain't got no fucking money. Them
niggas got a.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Bank accounts, So I never talked about a scammers, right.
Just I'm just think about the popularity of that culture.
Maybe the scammer spends that money on you quick, bro,
the second you have you a regular nigga, that's like
planning his life.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Bit you safe.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm sorry, but like all this pain and a lot
of heartbreak, when I'm hearing about it, it sounds like
we saw the road to get there. So when I'm
hearing my friends say this to me, dog, and it
was such a re conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Oh, I told her. I was like, which I'm talking
about you on the show.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Like you are the epitome of I'm asking for something
and I'm not receiving it because I'm not looking for it.
Oh one of those days waiting for one of these
lit dudes to be her dude. Yes, and the waiting
game and they feel it too, you know what I mean. Like,
I think what it boils down to is like, when
you genuinely are seeking partnership, you need to seek people
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that seem like good partners. For example, if I wanted
a good business partner to open a club with nigga,
I could go.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
To the niggas that's always in the club.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Or I could find somebody that's consistently working in hospitality
and understands what it's like to run a brick and order.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I could do that. I could do someone that looks
good on the outside. Oh yeah, of course it's gonna
work out because blah blah.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Or I could work with someone that has acumen. Literally
start treating dating like a fucking business. Nigga, would you
get into business with that nigga? These relationships that start out,
you know, just off the simple fact that he's lit
and you're lit in your like it just it gets
fucked up every time.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And I've done it too.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I've been the one looking for niggas with money too,
and that's when I genuinely think that's just got to
stay in my You're in the selling pussy, sugar baby laying.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
You gotta be there, Bro, you can't ben want this.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Guy to not fuck anyone else, not do all these
other things when you're genuinely not treating it like a relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You're trying to just want y'all to know.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The men is calling y'all prostitutes when y'all out order
and water, and then it becomes mysteriously a celebration. When
they come over with they pocketbooks, you immediately are being
looked at as something. If you don't want to be
looked like that, Bro, have the money to where you
and your homegirl can at least go out and order
your own first drink. Have the money to order your
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first drink. That would just be my sitting. Is a
good tip, bro, order your first drink. Don't walk into
a place and do your rounds and wait till a
man asks you, like, what's your name? Don't go to
a bar and just sit and wait. If your pockets
are even strained, please have enough money to order your
first drink, because then that just opens up to where
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you don't look like you there trying to get picked up.
We gotta get these other niggas a chance. Dog, y'all
gotta stop looking at Instagram. Listen, everybody, first date being
a vacation is not real, bitch, It's not fucking real.
It's not fucking real. Like seriously, if we are wanting
the things that we saying, bitch in my twenties, and
(27:26):
if you're still in your twenties, keep sucking the niggas. Also,
if you want to read about how terrible we were
in our twenties, no holes barred a dual manifesto of
sexual exploration and power out now because I was saying
shaggy oh and was and was, and I'll talk about
that in the progression chapter. So I'm no longer gonna
(27:47):
tell y'all to use your pussy for Brent unless you
absolutely have to.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I literally, if you have to, don't be like old girl.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's Taylapari movie. All she had to do was sell
some pussy and she would have been just fine. O.
What I'm just saying she could have just sold some
pussy dog. When we talked about were you screaming at
the TV talk with Kiki Palmer and Straw about one
of them days. At one point she said they was
in the writing room and there was a scene about
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selling feet.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Let's be clear.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yes, this is our biggest prize possession and it comes
with a price tag. Sometime the pussy got a price tag.
Use it if you absolutely need to. But yes, Toaji
could have just sold some pussy And finally.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You need rent page. This is your bottom dollar.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's not I got enough niggas in my if my
phone hadn't got just if you had to on a counter,
three say your price not wait, you just said rent.
We have one rent price? You said if I need
to pay rent, just so, I said, help Tod Durant. Sorry,
it's a little extra cash. But you what's the what's
the price on the Kouchie one? Two three?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
First time I couldn't even price on a cookie. Y'all
don't even know.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I ain't shared this story. This nigga wasted my time.
A couple of weeks ago, I'm in single. Yeah, this
nigga wasting my time. A couple of weeks ago, y'all.
He pissed me off so bad. I told him he
owed me ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
For wasting my time. We didn't get he didn't get
no pussy, he ain't get no head. He sent me
ten thousand dollars points to my time, and I said,
I never want to talk to you again. And then
he really sent that money, and I was like, a couple.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Of days later, I was like, you good by, bahad,
I said, I was not cutting this nigga off. I said, okay, okay,
So now I'm just waiting for but I'm ready to
buy my house.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I'm gonna be like, hey, you need help.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
But to me to have a nigga on my line,
that I could be like, hey, fuck, nigga, don't waste
my time. You had me going all over the motherfuckering place.
Da da da send me ten thousand dollars pays to
my time, and.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
He do it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I got he did, he did that, nig did. I
ain't gonna hold you. But here's here's my thing. Right
And it's a really hard time for a lot of
people right now, especially single mothers.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I don't know how y'all do it best birth control
for me? Hear how you spend my own girl some money?
It's so raw.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's so for me though, not to push prostitution on
the girls. I'm about to say a lot of people,
oh my god, not prostitution on the girls. But to me,
it is poor pussy management. If you are well into
your thirties and you done gave that pussay out for
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the last fifteen twenty years, depending on where you started fucking.
Say you started fucking at fifteen, you thirty five, that
is twenty years of dick.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
No, I know that's how's your body count? Eight? I
don't believe you even if it's eight. If you come
across hard times and now one of them eight.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Niggas could shoot you some money, you gotta go into
the little stall at the church and talk to the man,
or you gotta call your therapist.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But you have to sit in a mirror.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And be like, bitch, you got some poor pussy management
and you should never fucking nigga again.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Who can't throw you a little bit of change? And
you going through a hard time?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Bitch, I saw that ship, I said, Toronji, you got
a whole kid you can't call nobody.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You ain't put that pusso.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
On nobody wait for me on the y real quick,
lit many just it Trojhi.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You can't call him, No, you can't. You can't now
one nigga?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Is mister your pussy enough to be like where you
hit him up and be like, hey man, I'm going
through hard time right now, I need a little help.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Dog by that ship y'all so bad.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was like, now what it is, Dick could throw
you a little bit of change, hold puss the minute.
I literally want to do a test, but I gotta
respect that relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But I really know what we should do a test
on patroon. Hey, we should just hit.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Him like three old niggas and be like, amen, let
him get three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
No, no, no, we got money. Now we got you
gotta ask for at least a thousand. Now, I'm no.
If you on hard line page six what from ken,
I'm sorry, I can't talk you any way? Famous? Oh
my god, who all spen? Wait?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
We are on page sex bitch with Eva Longoria? My relationship?
My home girl is there?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Me?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Need?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I need? I need that? AnyWho?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Okay, anyway, popus management, ladies. It is twenty twenty five.
We is in a recession. We about to have World
War three. You need to have your niggas in check
right now.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Go through your phone. Any man that.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
You would engage some pliss to two put him in
your notes. You need to have on speed dial the
three dudes that you know can help you out.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
When the missiles start dropping, go come and save you.
Who's coming to save you? Bitch? God damn it, it's
rough out here.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Damn I really don't you got three that you as
You might be able to ask that Jamaica from back
in the day which one one of them? But you
was the club, you had a little group. You was out.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I know, for shup. I'm not gonna lie. I feel
like I got shit.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
He just had a thirty fifth birthday on the yacht
with his baby mama, and I was like, oh, you're
still trapping cause I.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Even the sugar daddies that I mentioned in the book
being staybof Divorce now so I feel like I could
really slide back in if I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But we're just friends. We're friends. We're friends.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know, I've been the person people borrow money from
so often. I even wanted to talk about this v
Simone thing because I have a take that I think
you the obvious take is after the H and them thing,
we're all rolling ours. A couple of weeks ago, be
Simone went viral for two clicks We've got done.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
What I'm trying to insert that reactionary.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Being a best friend with a celebrity.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Everybody thinks that, oh, because you're connected to this person,
then your life is just as grand as theirs, or you.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Got you got it, stay helping you.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Baby, didn't have a job, living with my parents, a
single mom.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
All this happened to me this past year, Jesus.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
And then it's like to not have resentment in my
heart towards you because I saw you do this for
other people. I saw you give a check to somebody
to help them through whatever they went through.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And it's like, God, Like, nobody didn't give me a handout.
But guess what that wasn't your responsibility.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
God had to take me.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Through that for my own season, for my own thing.
I had to get my car.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Repossessed, Jesus.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I had to go through the food stamps line.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I had to be on medicaid because whatever, he I'm
building my story too.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
But it's like, as a friend who somebody who.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Has it, it's hard to digest.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
They're probably shocked that not even saying this right now.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
So number one and click with the friend. Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Now I'm someone that has an apartment or two in
my name for a friend dog like I really and
my friend.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
God kids, I'll do anything for you, But one, I
don't think that's our best friend. And two.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I must say I don't know how long that person
has been there, right me neither. I have had friends
that I've helped they can't fucking get it together.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, same in that clip.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Even though I rolled my eyes at bisim Hom, I
then thought, mmmm, if my friend called me in a
panic with no place to live, obviously I would do anything. However,
we all have that friend it never pays us back.
We all have that friend that were like, how you
got a job and no money? Where does your money go?
(35:35):
What is going on? And I started to think about
that and it really made me kind of settle into
the feeling of I have been weeding out friends that
really do have that poor money management shit out of
my life slowly not like I'm trying to dub a
broke friend, but all SOMEO shit like fuck, I hate
(35:55):
the fact that you're always in a bad position. This
is my friends with all children saying, and people with
kids don't have bad management. It's just I can't imagine
taking care of you people. I'm gonna say something something
problematic on top of that, if you are a friend
that I constantly have to get out of a bind,
(36:15):
but you fucking oh bitch, don't let me find out
you need money, but you just fucked a week ago.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You giving up to puss it what you need me?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
But you need me, oh bitch, you better get show
at the fuck together.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And then also, don't be putting.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Don't be fucking if you if you are in a
bind where you can't ask this man that you're laying down,
legs up in the air, you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Probably riding, because y'all bitches be riding. I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
You probably riding that nigga dick from the back. But
you calling me your friend, which yes, I will help
if I can. But you are laid up with somebody
who's occupying your space, your body, your mind, and you
don't feel comfortable enough to ask men, you're not trying
to ana.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Let me tell you this.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So I just conversation with Brionda because me and her
was hard. Bit someone asked for forty bucks, I ain't
go lie. If someone asked for forty they really need it.
And another friend asked me for five thousand, okay, in
the same forty eight hours. Okay, so we're talking about this.
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I'm like, bro, obviously my friend of the needs forty
dollars is getting one hundred or two hundred bucks, like
I know you need to. But the one that with
the five thousand, I said to Bree, I'll be doing
lectures if you borrow money from you sometimes I'll be
doing a little lecture with that five thousand.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I was like, I feel like I'll get that back
in a second. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
What is it about when someone needs that type of
money where it's like, ooh, I had a misstep in
a check, something happened, it was an emergency.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
But then when it's that little money, you're like, what,
you will never get that back?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I mean I think, I think yeah, but I think
a grown ass person, which is why I say, when
you just said asking four hundreds, two hundred dollars. No,
you got to ask what thousands and you're gonna ask
for something with a common.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Because now is my apples. I want to calm a bitch.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
But to me, if someone is asking for forty dollars,
they don't know how to go get.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Forty dollars, well, yeah, like you know what I mean
if you're.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Asking for the forty dollars any me, the check came
out something a bill hit you wasn't ready for.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I got you now.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
The thing that her and I were vening about because
Brie had a situation where someone asked for that too,
and she was like, bro, this is hard for me
because I just started this newvie. You know, she's doing
trap House for me. And she's like, I'm just thinking
to myself, I know this friend makes money, and I
know I've been in places where I did it, and
I would never fucking do that. I'd fucking wait till
that Friday life.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm gonna get my shit together.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I'm not gonna fucking be here putting myself in situations
where I'm gonna embarrass myself to ask.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
My friend for forty dollars. It ain't got it either.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And I was like you know what, some people, and
I've said this on the show. Someone that taught me
this lesson, some people are natural born givers and takers.
And for me, for the most part, when my friends
are kind of in bad money situations, they've always been
given shit. They're so used to just taking they just
don't feel like a big deal. And so when I
saw this Simone clip, it was hitting me a lot
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because I'm like, she's had her moments that have made
me side on her, and I like.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Me someone a lot.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I think she's so sweetie, but she's had moments. But
in that one, I was like, Nah, that girl's putting
that shit on her.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It reminds me of you, Gab who was It reminds
me of jay Z when he said like every like
he stopped going to family functions because every time he
went it was like his cousins and people asking him
for money. I can see that happening to me, and
it's just like, bro, and I mean, that's the thing
with my dad. Like the girl moved over with her
mom right when she said that. Andandy, sorry to interrupt you,
did you know I think to yourself, like, Okay, you
(39:50):
had a place to go, Like why were we acting
like he was on a street with a kid and
be someone new like that? She was like I had
to move back to my mom, Like okay, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
As a friend. Then if you couldn't even pay.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
For a roof over your head for you and your child,
how much did you want be someone to show up
for you? Did you want her to put you in
an apartment like was be Samoe supposed to show up
and then raise a grown woman that she didn't push
out of her Guccie.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I think that we can be supportive for our friends.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But I do think that And I said this, this
is a it's a layer take. I hate you and
I have busted our ass. Yeah, I've seen this for
the last eight years. Like I remember coming on here
just wanting a Gucci belt and the Balenciaga's to look
like socks. Couldn't even afford a six on a loud
pair of shoes a couple of years ago on this pod.
And I think that it's it would be nasty for
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any of our friends, any of our family members, to
feel entitled to any of our money because they're unwell,
like they're not doing well, like and me and my
friends talk about all the time. We always uplift each
other anytime we can, like I'll give my friend a job,
I'll find a way to hire my friends. But to me,
the entitlement that it seemed like, like, girl, I saw
(41:01):
you get someone else to check, but you couldn't help.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Me physilanthropic shit. She's like, you don't know her. She
said that.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
She said, I've had liquid cash before. She's like, I haven't,
but she has a whole app now. You don't know
the investments that people are making. You don't know how
much overhead they had for you to just feel entitled.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
To be given a gift.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I will say if b slone knew her friend was
struggling bad and maybe didn't, because the girl kind of
sounded like she was going through something and didn't see
I don't know. It was awkward, but a lot of
people were jumping out her throw and I was like,
that wasn't the clip to the throat jump.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I think what I saw made me feel sorry.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
But also people will put that shit on you too,
like Vinnie tried to check her friend about that shit once.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
So Vinnie on sex Cells.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
If you watch the unedited version on Amazon Prime for
the Botox one. I've talked about that a lot, where
he got his his dick grew at the Dick Doc
in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
It's a thing, and he said that some guy he knows.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
We're like, oh, so, Wheezy's just on vacation and traveling
doing this and you're just at work with your dick
on TV.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
For her show. And he was like, you don't know
what the fuck Weezy.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Like, dude, I literally find there's not an episode of
Sex Cells where I'm not trying to get video if
any is in two little clips, I'm like, he went,
he's this and gets this and gets this, Like you know,
he's our tour manager. Like just like your friends help
us and stuff like get in our friends checks.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is what we're supposed to do. If they're good, that
what they do. They have to begin with. I'm not
handing Vinnie out nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Vinnie is valuable to my life and worthy, but yes,
we should be putting our people on. However, entitlement is
in the same with these the ah and M clip.
I did look a little sideways, and it was only
because I don't.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Think she realized how how such she was in that
moment we.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
About to go into a world war, Queen a recession,
eggs thirty six dollars have the Shopah, it's listen. But
I watched her Road to a Million video and never
counting someone's pockets. But that was account right. I think
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that's what makes it hard.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
That was also a couple of years. But like me
someone being a comedian, that's just.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
But I think so many people don't get to also
see her, like BE used to break my hair, like
BE used to work as a hostess and a waitress.
I would come to Atlanta, we would hang out, and
I'd be like her on she would break hair, she
would do any and everything a million she did. She
did any and everything that she could do to make
(43:28):
money when maybe she didn't. She relocated from Dallas, moved
like and who B is to her core, She's a hustler,
but she is a good person. So I hate that
the clips are coming out and I see the Internet
talking about her because she she has shown up in
so many dope ways over the last decade of me
knowing her that I hate.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
That this narrative is not being created by her.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
But I think that B is a I think it's
that clip is hard to see for people that go
through shit. Yeah, we all need to keep in mind
sometimes sharing. I was having a conversation with this. I
talk about Brooke Devart a lot. I talk about black
girl luxury because and I said this to the girl,
don't I make up this morning? I said, for some reason,
(44:08):
Brooke is completely in touch with her demographic. And I
think it's because luxury is kind of her brand. So
Brooke can get on her fucking phone with her family
and board the Delta one lounge, you know, no chairs
and have that private security and talk about Oh, I
think I'd get these, Marcilla. I don't know what about
the like And we love it and we're accepting of it.
(44:30):
There are certain people for some reason it doesn't hit
for us, and I wonder how we figure out that
line and when we start to hate, because I'm never
gonna hate how rich she gets for some reason. But
it was annoying to watch be Simone say that thing.
Why is it this is a black girl that came up.
We know she's worked hard, she's a comic. We see
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you getting it out of the mud. I don't think someone
gives up. It was handed to me vibe.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Neither does Brook by the way, But I'm just saying, like,
what is it? And when do we learn who.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Can do it and who you can't? Because I didn't
feel bad for me, Simone.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I was really sitting it like the tree. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I mean, I think it's it's demographic, and like I said,
I think it's also the timing.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
It's the time that we are in. There's a lot
of people going through it.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Like I've been having the conversation with my friends and
I'm like, damn, this year is hitting a lot different
than the past couple of years for so many of
my friends, for so many of my peers, and I'm like,
I was just having a talk with a good friend
of mine and savings depleted and trying to come back
to finding a new passion. And I said listen, like
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almost in tears, and I said, listen, as long as
I got it, you got it. Don't never think you
can't cover it. And luckily she ain't fucking nobody right now,
because otherwise I would have been like, bitch, bitterg that's
that nigga. But I literally looked at her because I
love her daughter, I love her and I'm just like, listen,
as long as I'm your friend, you got it.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Don't ever think you know.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
But it's because she's never like she's not someone that's
ever constantly asked. I've seen her like you know, she's
just an a in an era. We all have these
ebbs and flows with life. But boy do I see
life is life and right now for so many people. So,
like I said, I think that clip didn't hit right
now because of the time.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
That we're in, Like Israel, help with people is real,
just as real.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I hope listen, y'all got twenty six dollars, hope, I
hope I get it in that book.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
I'm sorry, listen, And I don't know. I don't know.
Might be up to twenty nine, it be going on sale,
it goes between twenty nine and twenty three. How that happens,
Like it depends where they get it from.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Oh okay, like Amazon has different prices, Barnes and Nobles,
all the things.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
All right, y'all, I've been seeing the comments.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
So we're gonna get a little horrible okay with the
sex history. Yeah, So I decided to do a sex
history dive into pet play and animal role play.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Because the funk not.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
So we're gonna start off with the ancient roots of
spirits and shape shifters, y'all.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
This is prehistoric to early.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Civilizations, and so we really only get to see it
through like you know, the shit the hieroglyphics and the
writings and shit like that stuff ancient texts, totemism and
tribal identity.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
So many indigenous cultures believed.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
In animal spirits as clan ancestors or protectors.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So think wolves, bears, or.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Ravens, symbolizing traits like strength, cunning, or transformation.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
So having animals be at this like.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Godly realm is where the animal play in the bedroom
kind of took placed a pup. So I have you
familiar with shamans or whatever that is, So shaman rituals,
shamanic rituals donned where an masks and furs to become
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the animal invoking its power or guiding spirits during trance states.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
So while you would be in this your fork state,
this is where.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Back in the day they was putting on animal masks
and furs. Mind you, I feel like we have seen
this in like eyes wide shut, like just showing it
looks a little demonic, but it's kind of like cool
because the lemonade issh, I think.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
I think it depends how you like to me.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I ain't gonna hold you well, I don't know, because
we be referring to niggas as goats now, like you
know how the goats, that's where you're going with it.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
So I'm thinking of like goats be looking demonic.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
But also we call Kobe a goat, so imagine you
just fucking a goat because you imagine it inside.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Like a nigga like Ron or Kobe. You know what
I mean. Like, don't niggas be like they goats. It's
a whole emoji.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Okay, So nigga, maybe you want to suck a goat
because your nigga not a goat, So turn that nigga
to a goat.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I'm just saying, all right.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Symbolism, animals weren't just beasts again going back to the
demonic things, they were cosmic inter intermediaries.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Sack I was like, how do I say this word.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Intermediaries and channeling them meant spiritual transformation. So pretty much
pet plays started with the primal roots that took place
from how our ancestors viewed animals period. Just think about
how expensive animals are in dowry, Like you talked about
a dowry, just the way that like they honor animals
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and then you just be like, I can't value a cow,
but first off, let me tell you, and I don't
know how much they cost. In Oklahoma City, I was
out there for Juneteam Fish.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Niggas was out there riding horses like go carts.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Like it was just niggas, like not not even a hat,
they had no shirt.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
It was just black boys riding off. Was a team theme.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
No, no, no, apparently there's like a black cowboy thing, but
they don't dress like cowboys.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
It's like niggas on horses like they.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Stretched, had like some baggy jeans, no shirt, and it
was just out there riding a horse like not with
a saddle or anything, bare back horses.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
And so I'm asking, I said, how these niggas just
got all these.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Horses, and they was like they're cowboys, like people got
horses out here. I was like in Oklahoma City, mind
you like teenagers to like they look like young boys.
But it was just out there on their gallivan on
their horses, not galivant and so I don't know, maybe
there's a discount on horses in like the middle that
part of the world, In that part of the country,
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I said, I thought horses was expensive, and we just
out here with horses, just riding through the festival.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I was shot making me a little horny. You ever
been on making you horny? It's crazy? You know what's crazy?
I actually don't.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
My hips don't really open that wide. I'll be looking
at them like, but you go, this ain't the hair
we be buying. I'll be looking at their hair like
I'll be looking at h So that's what it is.
It definitely wasn't the milky ware that warns here. Okay,
So we're gonna get into myth and metamorphosis. So this
is where it kind of started getting really mo kinky.
(51:07):
So we're talking really mo kinky. We taken it too
ancient Egypt, Greece, in India. So God's in animal form.
So Anubis was a jackal, that's it was a cat,
and Pan was a goat. So divine beings with beastly
traits weren't rare, so pretty much they turned it into
fucking gods.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
You know how you be like, oh.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
My God, this is where it started. But they were
dressing up as animals. So there's also myths of transformation,
so Zeus became a swan, and Hindu myths feature beings
like Hanuman, who was a monkey god erotic symbolism. Animal
features often represent raw instincts, so sex, chaos, power. So
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including those elements into the bedroom like say you got
say baby girl, okay, her drinking that milk out of
the thing, and either being a cat or a dog,
there's submission and loyalty as what we normally relate to
animals that way. So now you're bringing in those elements
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that you have when you think of a dog being
loyal or a dog you know, kind of listening when
you say sit. Those elements are what brings about the
arousal while you in the bedroom, like and that's sexy.
I mean, it's all at the end of the day,
one's the top, one's a bottom. Now let's get into
the Victorian era to the mid nineteen hundreds, which we
around so Freud fetish and furry hints. Okay, so psychoanalysis
(52:42):
and libido. Freud and Jung explored animal dreams as symbols
of raw desire or her pressed urges. Now, there was
a rise in fetishism in the Victorian kink culture that
included pony girls, corsetry, and power dynamics.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
That's a pony girl. I don't know that one.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
We can look up with a pony her DJ name
of her horse girl, y'all know who that is? No,
but does she look like she'd be dressed like a horse. Yeah,
I don't like it because you don't think horses are sexy.
Because she don't like cat like I had no problem
with Doja cat coming out here like a cat girl?
Speaker 1 (53:17):
She like really and she's really popping too. I think
who is it? Oh? Yeah, this is her? I think
I saw Kim Krash she posted her or North. Oh.
Speaker 5 (53:27):
A pony girl is a woman, usually submissive, who takes
the role of a pony.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Oh make a pony sound.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Now your turn, bitch. She ain't gonna make up it
just sound like one. I can't do one, gidiat. Oh
my goodness, this sorry trash.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
All right.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Now, we're gonna get to nineteen seventies to today, where
we have talked about it for the last few years.
Do not know how eight years in we have yet
to have a goddamn furry on the show. But if
you are a her, opportunity me. But they just be
so introverted and weird. I don't I mean, yeah, we can't.
Your kink isn't weird for the people. You're just weird,
(54:08):
Like why is it weird? It gives a little tism
in the messages. Sometimes I talk to two or three
of them doing avia we can what the hell is
going on?
Speaker 1 (54:15):
I don't. Well, maybe that's why they're in these costumes. Bro.
One girl literally I booked her. Let's just say. It
was like twelve to two on a Sunday, Vegas. She
never responded. I sent an address.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
I'm like, good to go, nothing, we get a new
guest because the bitch doesn't reply. Miss furry lady shows up,
no replies to me at eleven forty five, like, hey,
twenty minutes away. I said, there was no conversation. I
asked you for stuff. She wrote back and said you
told me where to be, though, what bitch, do you
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talk to people?
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Do you talk or.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Do you just oh she ain't confirmed. Damn, yeah that's
just all. And then another one was like, well, what
would I talk about side of the furry So that's
the thing like furries have now like so in modern
day BDSM community is so pet play became a recognized kink,
so especially in Puppy Kit and Ponty play. Like we talked,
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it combines obedience, care, power, exchange, and identity. But the
furry fandom is the overlap, and it's focused more on
identity and community and community but shares anthrow pomorphic and
constant role play.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
So I think that's the different. There's the way you
could look out on the walk, she said, Ted, did
I not? I don't do that. I did that right,
but the way that they can right now.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
I agree, But she was happy that I got that
word going on anthrket whatever.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
See.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
I ain't say at that time that was too fast,
but I said it when I was reading it. By
the way, there's an online boom for the furries with
forums Tumbler. I don't know if that's still out, but
and TikTok where they brought visibility so with its crazy
is and it's why y'all got to watch when your
kids is on the TikTok o. They're like there's a
community where they dress up the same way like the
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anime girls like where that's actually a sexual thing, where
some people might scroll by it and be like, oh,
she's dressed up like Sailor Moon. There's a nigga on
another side of a screen jacking off to Sailor Moon.
So there's the same thing happening right now on the
TikTok where the people are dressing up as animals and
people are being aroused at the furries online hashtag furry
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and you will see all bunch of people dressing up
as these animals where you might think maybe they're just
they like.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Barney and maybe what are you talking about? What furries
being a thing online? Like the same way are we
talking about the splashing right the people?
Speaker 2 (56:45):
So kids are dressing up now, kids are dressing up,
adults are dressing up because you said the same way,
don't dress.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Up as anime and these things.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
That's the cause playing the anime character your kids on
because because a lot of things that people don't understand
have a sexual limit to it. Yes, oh is it
kind of like the girl that goes yem i scream
or the splashing of the cakes.
Speaker 5 (57:07):
Yes, the making a mess we talked about that necessarily
mean there's a sexual affiliation to it. But but for example,
there are animas that are very kid centrico centric, and
I understand how that can be a little weird and
where you should be cautious of having your children post
up possibly as these characters because there might be creeps
(57:28):
on the other side.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
Coming comic con and video game people. And my confusion,
so serious, serious thing. I would like to know. Yes,
when you go to comic con and you put that
you're just around the peach coon, dream con, dream Gon,
when you put the aphon.
Speaker 6 (57:48):
On, you're not about to come for cosplayers right now?
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yes, she is, uh huh, I'm gonna let her go.
I'm gonna let her go.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I just want to know you put the costume on
Batman girl, batgirl, whatever.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
Not at you're telling me, yes, this is just for
fun and you don't want to fuck. How is it possible, Oh,
I didn't know we were going this way.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
That there is no connection to the to the people
that are dressing up a comic con and sexuality. How
is it possible that we are all in this room
because we love comic books that much. At forty you're
telling me you don't want to fuck. So now we're
at booth together, and we're just going back and forth
talking about Pokemon, and you dressed up in the whole
(58:33):
fucking latex and this isn't sex. You ready, we would
let me throw you the fucking analogy right now, because
you sound crazy. You're telling me you didn't go to
the Beyonce tour and your god damn cowgirl hat and
your chaps, and you were talking about Beyonce and the
records you like and you are thinking about.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Sex while you dressed up and talked to a whole
bunch of people with the same lights to you. Oh,
I got one another one, pretty bag. That's a theme.
What's a theme? Not a costume? No, no, no, no, no, no,
it's a theme. Dressing up, bro, that is a theme.
The a mask. Go ahead, there, there we go, There
we go.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
You don't dress up for Halloween, period, she said, thought
the she wants to stop. That's not a good analogy,
No it is. And then you know, dressed up the
fuck every Halloween. Every Halloween, you dress dress a fuck
a little bit. But I'm dress but you don't dress
up too.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Fuck.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Hold on, so you're telling me, you grown ass Nico Rock,
you take your little Latino ass and put on a
costume and none of us.
Speaker 6 (59:35):
Sections play myself, but I have friends who cosplay. Yeah,
people like to cosplay.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
You have friends who cosplay I And that's the thing.
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
I've been I've been hanging with more of the nerds.
And it's crazy because I'm on record talking about gamers and.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
Ship a real person that's not a real person that
just really likes it.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
Like how they make the Saalian, like make the Stallion
be dressing up in anime Characterstan.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
I thought that that's.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Supposed to be sexy. I mean, it's sexy, but she's
also a fan. It's sex shit, right, what she's doing
is not sex shit. She's a fan of anime. So
you don't believe the e grown person should dress up
as an anime or want them to do it. You
want them to do it, but you're like, why are
you doing it without fucking why are we at the
Javit Center, and why it's a convention?
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Why are we not all right?
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You're telling me you did this for Javits and you
walked down on the broad day.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
You never got your dick card.
Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
Not everybody's warning like that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I came out of the wall.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I don't want to say I'm not coming for them.
I'm just it's not bad because not everyone thinks about sex.
Maybe this is their hobby. It's just really fandom.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Like when you go when you go.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
To listen to my piano, does your pussy have to
be leaking? Because that's what you enjoy to go do
if I start working also that Okay, maybe that was
a yeah because if it's like the sexual energy, But no,
I'm just really thinking to myself, Okay, you get up,
you're putting on this disguise. It's mysterious. Maybe have a
mask on.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Maybe look at someone else.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
You're looking at someone, what if they look like pikachuu?
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
What if they in a big old.
Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Round, there'd be some sexy like.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Why are men wearing one? Late sex? One's the fucking things?
Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
Or maybe the same of the animal.
Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
But now you're telling me you gotta go peep anything
costume is expensive.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
That mean they got a little cooint.
Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
So you're just doing this to wait in line to
talk or see a things and embrace the culture and
Jordan the culture, and then what do you do after
you don't fuck? Are these people don't have their virgins. No,
maybe not their virgins that all these cosplay people. What
about your friends? They not each other? But do they
fuck other women and men? Yes, who also wear costumes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah, they're saying.
Speaker 6 (01:01:54):
Women and men who causeway right, it's not just men?
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
No, no, no, no, no, of course I'm saying do they
fuck other people that are also in there?
Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Yeah, they have common they have hobbies and common that
it is.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Just find your bitch at the Pikachu tad.
Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
But that's my point, right, and say, if you like
Pokemon and I like Pokemon, let me Pokemon.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Never fuckmon Tomato, Tomato Tomado. I'm sure that's a fucking
veggie tails costume where you are? Tomatoes? Baby? Do that
that veggie tails? I can't dress up as an eggplant?
Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I can't dress up as the eggplant?
Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
Are you asking me that again?
Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
You know what's crazy? Hold on, I want to pull.
Do you know Veggie Tails was Christian based? Yes? Did
you know that? Like Jesus Son, Yeah, the veggies, the
veggies were Christians. Yeah. They used to talk about love God. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Wait, because I used to watch the Beggie Tails. Okay,
hold on, now I'm trying to pull up this ship.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Wait, what is it?
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Most popular costumes, most popular comic con outfits.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Let's just see if they.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Could be sex not, let's see if they could be
sexy deck because as absolutely be said that that's a that's.
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I don't know if these people are ugly or it's
just not good.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I just see the characters. Because, Okay, Woody and Buzz
light Year fund.
Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
The girl Woody and buzz Lightyear.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
What's that bad bitch?
Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
The white girl was at the top, Harley Quinn, that's
kind of sexy between.
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yes, wood he is Woody.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
The way he was moving like this, he had some
sugar in his tank.
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Well a long the cat woman, that's sexy. Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Then there's Zelda, who's in kitties out on the stomach out.
These bitches look like hose. Not these bitches look like hose.
You know why too?
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
They were drawn by men. Sorry, they were drawn by men.
Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
First of all, the virginal characters don't look super hyper sexualized,
but yes, today they do. That are a lot they're not.
Zelda is not hyper sexual.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
No, Zelda was a fucking had elf ears.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yeah, Velda was just trying to say the hell, oh sorry.
Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
Well I'm sure, you probably see the very like sexualized
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Speaking of elf ears, do you know I realized okay,
I was thinking about it when I looked at you
today during the breakfast. I was like, is that Mandy's
real ear? Yes, it's my real ear. I have a
spock here? Hold on, I do? Do you know that that?
Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
That's like the fun I do.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
I have a spuck here. It used to be more prevalent.
It's just one ear. It used to be more prevalent
when I was younger. This one is round, this one
is spot. It was so distracting, you know why, because
I'm a mythical fucking creature.
Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
It's crazy. I know what was looking at my ear
at the breakfast?
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
If you were sitting tar, But I looked at you,
and I'm like, it's because I'm a mythical creature, y'all.
I've never seen this Mandy's ear.
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
I'm a fairy. Do this? Oh yeah, oh my god, wait,
it's just that one ear. Let me see the gain. Yeah,
is it a rich fair? Yes, my ear is real.
Don't do that now.
Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
It looks like a really nice like, oh yeah, metrical.
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
But Jeeves, the white guy, I used to fuck this
is obviously a white story.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
So maybe my spock here is because I'm half white.
He used to be. That's why. That's why only one
of them is Spock. The other one is my nigga here? Oh, come,
what it is around? Its little like my daddy here.
I don't know what this is.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Your therapy. I don't think she got spock here. She
got them long white people.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
But I don't notice that. Man, you got short air
for how many years now? Yeh like five years?
Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Maybe I just haven't been that close in proximity. But
we're turning because Charlaine's on the right to the left,
I'm looking at her.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Wait when did she get that?
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
When did I get that?
Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Oh? Maybe because there was jail because I did a
little slip back today.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Anyway, if Mandy's ear in detail, please take your ass
over to Patreon. H that's right, not only Patreon, bitch,
we on the YouTube as well. Y'all could also see.
That's why you're here, or does a bitch you said?
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
What? No?
Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I think he did it in this ear because also
I had tubes in my ears. I had sinus infections
and then I had two bull leggate not the Tube bloggation.
Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
That's where the get Sheaver my mind a no holds
barns out now.
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Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
From here on you just get in my dating life. Okay,
but it's over there on the paywall. Go go hear
it over there. Anyways, y'all, thank y'all for tuning in
to yet another episode of The Cisions, The Cisions.
Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
We'll see you next week