EP 453: Our Favorite Moments Of 2025!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Decisions Decisions. I don't think you should say
Decisions Decisions. It sounded like you was talking to Kirsty.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You definitely say to welcome, welcome to the new podcast.
You want to say, together, Decisions Decisions, welcome everybody to the.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Year and episode. Hey, y'all, this is a great episode.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I actually like if I meet someone random out somewhere
and they're like, where should I start?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I always say go to the do to the wrap up.
That way you get a little dash that's right, that's right.
It is the Decisions Decisions wrap up. This is our
full first year as Decisions Decisions.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
With the rebrand. As y'all know, Horrible Decisions though did
not go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
So if y'all miss all the sex, the launch, the nastiness,
head on over to Patreon Thisspatreon dot com, backslash Horrible
Decision And usually when we do our wrap up, this
is our first year doing it with two podcasts, so
we're actually giving you a little bit of a nasty teaser.
And this is going to be the top eight episodes
like a MySpace, so we've got repicks each.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Greeezy just wanted to age us so bad what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, but the young, the young people listening don't know
nothing about a top eight on my.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Space and listening two or old bro. You just want
you just want to connect with the millennials.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
But I will say I went to Everyday People in
LA and the nigga walked right up to.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Me and said, girl, I grew up on you. And
I said, you're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
To the wrong person. You didn't grow up on me, No,
you did, Greeezy at baby, he's twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nah. Oh wait, oh he grew up on you with
the with the with the podcast. Yes, so he really
did grow up on me, bitch. Oh that's crazy. Twenty three?
Is that crazy? All I want you to know is
you know I didn't have my little stin of yn.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
The twenty eight and under. They don't know nothing about
No More Space. Oh, they don't know nothing about no MySpace.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Child.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well maybe maybe twenty five and twenty eight might know
about my Space. I don't want y'all coming to my
comments anyways. But before we.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Get to our top eight, and by top eight, y'all,
Weezy and I are both gonna share our top three
episodes of Decisions Decisions for the year, as well as
both drop our favorite episode from Horrible Decisions over on
the Patreon. Really excited too, because y'all will get to
hear some clips from those episodes through this to bring
you back some laughs while you either sit around your

(02:22):
annoying ass family or if you have a.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Ghetto ass job. You're there. So let's get into it.
But before we do, Weezy.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Let's talk about our favorite just overall moments accomplishments for
the buck the podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh no, you know what duh like? Uh? Oh podcast cool?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I guess that accomplished would be doing one of the
episodes that essence Live with Candy Like I.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Tell you too, holdong, we gotta talk about do this?
What did you see? So we know we interviewed Candy
the fourth of July.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
They separated July fifteenth, and when we saw them, Bro.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
They made they clearly wasn't doing well, not motherfucking We
had to do the whole episode around fucking marriage and
keeping it spicy but not too spicy, and talking about
how they find work together as a couple after all
these years, just.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
For them to separate a week later. But they've been
together a long time, so you know, what.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I always thinking about that, But I was like, you know,
I guess it's still considered a successful marriage if you
were able to last.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
It can't all be to death. Well it's supposed to be.
That's why in vows be sounding crazy. Well, anyway, that
was a good moment.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Uh No, as since it was a great moment, I
do also think the book becoming a New York Times bestseller,
that was a great moment. And honestly, I would say
meeting so many of you guys on the book, I
think a lot of you not the book tour essentially,
but when we were doing the bookstores, that.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Was just so different for us, and so I really
liked that. I really like that. Outside of that, what
are your goals or hopes or prayers for twenty twenty six? Huh?
Bank they buying these sakes. I'm trying to make them
non work related. Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I want to be closer to my family, so uh,
my mom, and I'm trying to spend a lot more
time with my mom. We got in a really big
fight recently because I feel like everybody gets in a
fight yer on the holidays, and I realized, oh, you
know what, like.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Maybe I'm not. Maybe she's right.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Maybe I'm not intentional when I spend time. Maybe I
do schedule a trip to see my mom when I
have a schedule for work. Maybe she's not as prioritized
as I think I am. Maybe I'm jamming too many
things in. And I was like, you know, yeah, that's
something I do want. And it's weird because when I
was I would I mean, when I was younger, I'd
be like so annoyed at spending a bunch of time
with her, But now I'm like, it's kind of cute,

(05:08):
like because she grown, Like what's she gonna do?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, Like what decision can I make that? What
is she gonna do?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
My second thing would be I lost a lot of
weight this year doing a bunch of unhealthy shit. I
would just well, there was a day where I woke
up I was like, I'm gonna just start my south
like I was doing some crazy shit and it worked,
but I know it's not healthy, and I think I'm
honestly experiencing good gut issues because yeah, you just had.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Lime green shit, y'all gott to join us on Patreon. Yeah,
I think I funded myself up doing that. And the
third thing is I want to.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Spend less money on clothes. Okay, this isn't even of
me trying to save money. This is me trying to
save space.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
In my life.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh yeah, girl, I just had Crystal come over to
help me with my closets. It's getting ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
What is all this shit?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Now?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'm trying to give myself a little bit of break.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I'm like, you know what, I'm filming horrible and buying
stuff or buying Even if I buy a five dollars top,
I'm like, oh well, it's a different shirt to put
on for the next episode.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
So one of the things I realized we were in
La this last week, we should get uniforms.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
No, because they liked the bro We should just get uniforms.
We could get slutty uniforms. We could get two, three uniforms.
I love wearing a costume.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
We should just get uniforms.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
It would help both of us with the anxiety around
packing multiple outfits when we travel.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
We should fucking get uniforms. And then, but that's the
thing that is a it's a it's a capsule wardrobe
is a uniform.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
This week I literally packed it back to LA and
I've worn these same clothes every day. And I said
to my niggas, I feel like we're Kanye and Julia
Fox wearing the same outfits.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Remember when they looked like they wanted to change the clothes.
But it's not the same clothes. I'm wearing a pair
of black jeans with a black shirt. Then I'm wearing
a sweatsuit that's all black. Now I'm changing the tank,
I'm changing the sweat pants. I'm wearing the same thing
every day. And so all I could think to myself is, bitch,
what you bought all these clothes, but for when you

(07:20):
go out, we should really consider a uniform.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm gonna start. I'm gonna look up school uniforms or
something like that. I like it, speakiny stuff like that. Okay,
those are three bad ones. Those are good. Those are good,
Those are good. Those are good. For me.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I had to lean in professionally first, because that's like
all I fucking care about. So for me, I am
hoping to get something greenlit or something sold. I've been
working these last probably six months, since we stopped writing
the book. I just like creating and writing and shit. Now,

(07:52):
so I'm like working on a reality show. I'm actively
now pitching periods as the animated series, and I'm working
on two scripted shows, so.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
One being a film. So hopefully one of those get
green Litter sold.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Who knows, because based on how fucking television works, it
takes years to get shit sold.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
So there's that. My second one would be.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Getting a goddamn workout routine. Now, I'm not starting this
shit on the first because New Year knew me.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Ain't how I do shit. It's traphouse ready to take
some money.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Now for the month of January, I'm going I'm doing
a dry January. So I'm hoping that, like I'm able
to get some sort of routine in the gym, not
only the gym, I have been volunteering a lot more,
and I would like to find a way to volunteer,
if not weekly, by weekly. And the third one, ironically,

(08:51):
you're gonna be shocked. I talked about it in therapy.
Maybe we need a three month break. I actually bought
you a gift for the holidays that I'm gonna give you.
I just really like how we've been able to communicate
over the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I need more break it's been it's been so good.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
We've been agreeing, we've been seeing eye to eye, we've
been understanding, and I'm like, it's the break. Wow, I said,
I'm not coming in with Hey, I'm curious about your life.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm excited to record at the top of the year.
And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I mean,
now I have to get a gift. I hate you
to no no, no, no, no no. I prefer when
people tell me.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Last year I got Alex a gifts because he built
the Midtown studio and he was like, oh you did, can.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I hear him? And Clara like, but question, Okay, do
we present the gifts on camera for the first episode?
We can't. Okay, tell me the dollar amount now I
can match it. Now, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
The gift is something I know you gon't like. That's
all I'm gonna tell you. And I know you you
don't like it because the audience also know you go
don't like it. That's all I'm giving you.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Okay, wait, give me the dollar amount. Taking match. I
don't know. I've never looked it up, but one hundred
hold on, let me look it up right now. I
guess it depends. God damn this shit get high. Okay. Wait,
and that's another maybe I won't get it. Oh they
have one in the one hundred dollars range. Okay, so okay,

(10:28):
so I'll do one hundred. Death No, but it's still
above one hundred. Oh shit, Okay, what the fucking there's
a lot of options for this. You know, girl, we
both rich. It don't matter. Give me something one hundred.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I see what I'm gonna get you, though, but I'm
not gonna look like no broke bitch either, so I
gotta really do my investigation. I think there's a poor
version of this, and I don't want to get you
the broke person version of it because then it's not
really against many Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. If I'm ridding you again,
I would get you probably whether you like it or not.
One thing. I'm obsessed with it. I like luxury, house goods,
like luxury. Why are you going through this? I'm aware. No,
I'm just saying I don't expect that, okay, which is

(11:21):
why I know what you're gonna like getting hold on, wait,
can I tell you how I got my nigga for Christmas,
and I think you're gonna hate it. What? Okay?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
So this is what I bought.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I had not figure out what to get here.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I'm not.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
So you got them?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
What?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay? He was like, I got everything I want.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now for birthdays is when we spend thousands, right, how
do you get the expense again?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I'm like, okay, well, you doing Christmas a few hundred?
What am I gonna get? I feel like five hundred
is your boyfriend girlfriend gift? Okay. I hope y'all ain't
listening to this, being like maybe for you you get.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
So I don't know what he got me, but I
was like, let me just get him shit he doesn't
know he needs. So I got an easy plant that's
self watering because one of his plans keep getting fucked up.
Then I got him a two hundred dollars pillow that
molds to your head and has a cooling sensation so
that his locks don't get sweaty. It's from ape or

(12:21):
some shit. It's something like ridiculous. I was like, just
luxury gadget. And then the other thing I got was
a Nintendo sixty four from back in the day.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's cute. I feel like that's fun. And also on
Christmas put on against a gamer. But yes, well, he
said something to me about how like.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh, do you remember how much fun like this was
months ago? How like you were you a kid that
you used to play games like it was so much
fun back then. But I feel like it's different now.
He's like, they got to look into the screen. You
gotta talk to niggas. What about this simple game?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I was like, you know what, So you got to
the Nintendo sixty four with games I did. I bought
Mario Party. It was ninety dollars, Derek, look at you
for the game. Hey guys, you should spend at least
five hundred dollars. It was ninety dollars. No, no, no, no,
no for a game that's real. It can't be new.
It's all refurbished games, very expensive. I didn't know that. Well.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Then I thought it was good because I'm like, oh,
Christmas day, now we could play with some but my
mom was flying in to be with us for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Sokay, girl, I don't know what to get you. She's
just gonna get cash and some roses. Okay. I was
getting your friend's I was just about to say no, yes,
not really.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
So my it's weird because one of my boyfriends don't
really celebrate holidays. I don't know why I keep getting
niggas that don't like to celebrate holidays. They're like such
anti capitalists. But yet his birthdays in January, and I.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Was like, ooh, we could do a trip, we could
do something. He just wants a threesome Jesus.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And then my other boyfriend, I was at SAX the
other day and he dresses really nice, so I was
thinking of just getting him like a coat.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
But I didn't realize how expensive nigga clothes was. I
thought Nigga clothes was she bitch like they like? I
didn't know, like just their outerwear was so expensive.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Dog.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Two, did you watching Kevin Hart Special Special? No, now
you haven't want to go take a jacket and it's
six thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Bro, I didn't realize how expensive outer wear was and
he he bit like, so I got it. I gotta
get like an excel like but heugh, but that's the
one that be getting me all my little nice gifts
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
And oh, so you have a luxury gadgett a luxury gift? No,
luxury gadget. That's why I got that killow things.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
So what I realized for my birthday getting the Ninja
coffee maker, the Ninja slushy machine or no, it's the cureate.
What I've realized about getting gadgets is those are hubby
wifey gifts.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I just want to keep this like cloth.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Clothes are not hubby wife because remember when I had
a situationship and I got them a Nike tech suit.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
No clothes or not, they don't mean anything. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
If you bought your nigga closed, close is simple closing fragrance.
That means you don't really like that. Okay, you know
what it's the price point, then it is the price Okay.
But he got a chef, so I know I'm not
gonna get him nothing for the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Who's your number one, bitch? Okay, we got a cheff. Okay,
he do got a chef.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Okay, let's get it to or they like they gotta
call us out of touch, bitch. I got my nigga
two hundred dollars pillow. He's gonna make you return it
to they?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
No, they're gonna look at you know what if you
guys want to hear us be more down to earth.
Go back to eighteen twenty nineteen, where all I wanted
was the balenciagas that looked like socks and a Gucci belt.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Oh we're extreme.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Go back and listen to those little those those luxuries
that I wanted back then. Okay, I want it is
a Sokate lubaton. God damn, let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I wanted to start off with a solo episode for
my selection here because you.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Bitches ain't get a lot of solo episodes this year.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, y'all been angry Man twenty twenty six were giving
y'all solo episodes, especially while I missed being around Wheezy.
Like that means you're gonna get great content for at
least the first two months.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
So because who knows when it's gonna change, I don't know,
but my first favorite episode of the year had Weezy gagged,
had Eden shocked, and had some of you guys saying
I wasn't shit and defending me in the YouTube comments.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I know my episode is episode four seventeen, which is
when I was in my relationship this year with actor
Bay and.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't want to be around it for body Bay.
It was four four days, three nights.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
But anyways, the conversation went into putting a limit on
quality time and insecurities versus boundaries. Hold on, wait, I
found something that I screenshoted two days ago, and I said,
I have to show Mandy this because this actually should
be your next long term partnership.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Everybody in a comments thought you were crazy. I thought
you were crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I in my brain, I still think the limitation is crazy.
But that's your same thing to say, because that's how
my brain works. There was something I found online that
talked about the different types of relationship and so the
parallel lifers.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
This is how it works.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
These two people vibe side by side, but not intertwined.
They thrive on separate routines, low emotional demand and independence.
You can both coexist smoothly, but there's no sense like
there's no emotional overlap. And that may be conscious or chosen,

(18:07):
but basically how these couples work. They enjoy having separate
shit and coming together when they need to.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Also, I'm still currently undiagnosed, but highly neurodivergent, which is
what I learned about myself this year in terms of
my recharge ability and all the other things.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
But here goes a clip from episode or seven.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Anyway, what's crazy is so I'm telling him that, you know,
and he was like, we're going to put a pin
in this because I feel away.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
What do you mean you were just in the room
with someone who had fingered you before And I was.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Like yeah, and I said, and when he fingered me, nigga,
it was with and with the permission of my ex
boyfriend in a sex cluff.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Your relationship today as it stands, can you get could
you have gotten fingered by him?

Speaker 9 (19:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm not gonna lie, and maybe y'all hear more of
it on Patreon.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I literally went out the other night and literally text
him sub drunk, babe, what's our boundaries again? Because I
want to eat pussy tonight and I literally fucked someone like.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
The girl and well, no, no, no, right now it's
just women.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
He's even said, Babe, if we have so much time
apart and you have the urge, I would want you
to share with me that urge to see a man,
because I'll probably try to book the next flight out.
But if we're in a space where like he's looking
at a role right now, that might take him to
Europe for months, and she's like, I can't get to

(19:42):
Europe because maybe we're on tour. I let him know
we'll have that conversation, but you could have sex, and baby, if.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I'm in the need, I'm gonna need some too. Do
you think he has the same sexual appetite of like
wanting to fuck other people? No, he's told me he doesn't. Okay,
that's on him.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I like, I mean, I like women, which is why,
like I did, I hit him up and was like,
maybe I really want to like be with a woman tonight.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
But right now he doesn't want you to sex with
other men? No, no, no, no, no no, But I
don't need to. Like even the way he's like the flowers.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
You don't woman, I just want to say, well, no,
he ain't got.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
A pussy, So I'm completely different.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Like sex and intimacy with a woman is way different
than a man, which is why I've said we are
non monogamous. And an element of that is because when
and if I have the desire to be with a woman,
I don't want that cage the way I just love
that shit though, yeah, I think the real part of it, No,
they also love it when it's when they can be

(20:44):
a part of it, mind you. I also so he
asked me about the like, so, baby, did you get
pussy last night?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I said yeah. He was like, ooh, tell me about her.
I said it was my friend and me and her
just when he got food the other night. And so
even him, he's like, oh, she was really touchy on you.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
But I'm like, nigga, you know we fuck.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So that's my friend.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
He's having to get used to the fact that, well,
I've fucked quite a bit of my friends. Like he's
about to meet one in La Babe, we've had sex before, like,
and so now he's like, I want to know who
you've had sex with before, even if I meet them,
And I said.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Okay, oh I think that's a good rule. Yeah, I
think that's fine.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
We just went out to some I'm a piano party
of love little house and I'm like it was so funny.
I was like, damn, that girl looks so cute and familiar.
I thought she was like an influencer. So he's looking
invarit and I'm like, what's wrong? Oh, is that the
bitch fucking the freaking lot that one time? And then
a second later, I'm like, oh, I went out with
that nigga, and he's like, who the fuck are we?

Speaker 10 (21:43):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
We just thiggas that we can't go nowhere. And I
love having that, But I will say I like knowing
I don't want to be around no bitch. I'm saying
what's up too, because I'm a cool ass bitch. Bro,
you told me you was fucking the bitch last week
when I was out of town. As long as I know,
I'm okay, I'm very very comfortable. The sneakiness is what
I can't do knowing that I could be around somebody

(22:05):
that you were keeping. You're holding this from so you
I don't know, man, what it's a good time to
tell your said partner about this.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
By the way, what do you mean.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
If we're in a space, let's just say we go
out to a restaurant bar, do tell them? Because I've
had scenarios like this before. Where before too?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, so I've had a partner and
then she was around on the girl that yeah, you
don't let me conicated with and.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Then so okay, so okay, so I got to do
it there?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yes, ah, oh you should have.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Seen the way, me and me and my boyfriend just
been telling stories and I brought up somebody and he
was like, ah, that's relationship with that person.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
So then he brings someone else up and I had
to be like, you remember how you were weird about me?
Because they were celebrities. So I was like, ah, you
want to know how it was weird? I brought up
that girl. Oh I'm adjacent to Oh yeah, that guy
that you just mentioned.

Speaker 10 (23:01):
We kind of fuck.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's so funny because he was like, I'm actually kind
of shot. I mean we kind of fucked, kind of
let him put it in. Yeah, we kind of it
was only like a two time thing. And here he goes,
because you know, he was like would you really know?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
He said, what would you want to know if you
were in the same space or would you want to
know later in the same space. It's even one of
his work events. Let's say there's a colleague he slept with,
or a woman that's in the field. Whatever would you
want to know if you guys are around her all night?
Or would you want to know later?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Do you have a boundary with that that you know yet?
Let me know what changes anything? No, I'm saying Mandy.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
But when would you feel weird if he told you
the next day, next week, I was there three that three.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
I mean, it.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Depends if we are talking to each other. If it's
a woman who's just in the room that I don't
have a connect. Would she comes up and you know,
I'm introduced to her at that moment when she leaves us,
maybe tell me because now I've been so you want
to know in the place, if we've interacted.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, that's the point.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
If she's just in the room, so MACI, you have
to point out everybody that you've fucked in the room.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
If I like, I might not have even seen.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
There shouldn't be that many people in the room. But
I will say I've never seen him ignore someone he
slept with. Generally speaking, he'll tell me, oh that girl
over there, and he'll always say hello.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh, I ain't gonna hold you whole niggas. Hey, if
you see me with a nigga, do not come up
and speak to me. Do not disrespect We are not together.
If I am with another nigga, I'm not gonna lie.
I think it's petty and stiff, disrespectful. What if we
fucked before and I'm outside with another nigga. Do not
text me, d M me or I mean that, text me,

(24:37):
say you saw me in the room. Okay, that's kind
of whin the fuck out of here.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's weird like the dude texting her I saw you,
but I've seen you and say hello. No, no, no,
even I was in no fo. I was a nobu
before I got with my boyfriend. Nope, you're saying, don't
say hello, hello. I don't know say hello.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
Fuck No, why why you want to know?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
If you cross the room and you see me on
a dat or with somebody and all we did was fun.
Let's be very clear, y'all know a bitch only got
walk I fucked and you see me out with another nigga,
do not make yourself be known. Do not come and
say hi, keep your ass across the room.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I mean, if.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
You got me fucked up, there's no reason if all
we did was fuck, which again, y'all know, I got
one X everybody else situationships fuck boys.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Do not come and speak to me another say nothing.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
So no, if I see a man from across the
room that I slept with who is clearly out with
another woman, I'm making my way to.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Go over there to say hi. I mean I say hi.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I'm saying, don't get proximity like at the bar or
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 11 (25:46):
Not like it.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
But no, no, no, That's why I just think that
I distinctively said, if we are across the room, there's
no reason for you to make your way to come
say that was a doozy.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So let's talk about couples that spend a lot of
time together.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
One of my favorite episodes this year was episode four
thirty six, Babies and Breakups.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
It was sk and my Lynn.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, if you guys maybe follow them online. They are
a lesbian couple that both carried their own like set
like their children, and so I just found it mind
boggling because normally you see normal femgirl like that's just
like normally what it looks like show carried the babies,
but they each carried a child in their womb and
supported each other through it. They also were like giving

(26:33):
us funny tea about a breakup and a makeup and
like how they stick together. They've been together twelve years,
so I really enjoyed just hearing them be honest about
their dynamic and it was fun.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm gonna see if I can actually get my friends
to agree to come.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
On this year.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
So my homegirl Ash is a black fem girl married
to a white androgynist, masculine butch woman and they are
currently now married. They just got married and they are
family planning together where they want to insert the white

(27:11):
woman's egg into my black homegirl and use their homeboy
as this firm downor did I say that crazy?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's to sound like when skam I landed.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, So anyways, hope we're able to get them on
the show. But yeah, really excited for you guys to
also hear a clip from this what is this episode again?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Wezie four thirty six babies and breakups with skm I
Lynn enjoy. Now in the case of YouTube, I'm so
curious how you got to the point where you said.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Adoptions firm donation should be someone we know, should be
somebody that we How did this all happen? Did you
go to a bank? Did you a friend money?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, okay, that's the easiest place to start. So that's
why it was no IVF for our IVF for I've
also been for a long time, so insurance. But you did,
and you have three kids, so did one of you carry?
Did both of you carry? So at the top when
I met my Lynch, she had a son okay, okay,
and then I had two after and then we had two.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I carried first, okay? And did he have to fuck?

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Like?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Where did the sperm come from? If you was talking
about line, okay, let's let's less less clear. This was
a stretch. No, not like that, not like that.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
We were talking about.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Okay, you don't need but a linen apologize bag that
you need?

Speaker 5 (28:39):
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know, some viewers, we don't know how we know
the filter that you filtered, the steve it through like
the literal. I just know we all thought about nom monogamy.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
But if it's done for science and done for a purpose,
maybe it's not considered cheating.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
You know what I mean? Like I like, I don't like,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
So you know what, though, I would feel like if
this was my wife and I knew they had to
do that to get pregnant, it would then make me
feel like it wasn't powers Like I wouldn't feel like
there's this connection because you just got to do this thing.
And bring life with somebody else, like I would want
to be a part.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Of it if they had it.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
But I'm not joking because you I mean when I
was watching The l Words.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
When I was younger, episode that everybody when Tina and
Name went to the club found that boy she was
faking like a three cent and he realized when he
kept trying to put a condom one and they kept
being like no, I was like yea, trying to get
on the episode.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It wasn't like that they were like using turkey base
or whatever making love together. Like so to me, that
is how I.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Would want to do it.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
So it was really interesting that you say that because
in that episode where they do choose to have a threesome,
they are doing it together is very much locked into
what they're It's not even about him at all.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
They just want part. It was still very then. Yeah,
but if I'm not I'm gonna feel like, so, how
did how did both of your How were were your
experiences different with the essemination?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Like, we know y'all's story, we have a yes, we
have a known donor. Okay, when we found a known donor,
we made it and he's very open. He's very honest
with us. He's like, whatever you guys want to do,
we put in a contract. We we figured it out.
He's a closer person, so we were able to just
have a conversation. He's like, do you want me to
be involved? Do not want me to be involved? Do
you want me to be private? Do you want me

(30:30):
to be public? Do you want like he was very
fa did he ask for.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
A check it off?

Speaker 6 (30:33):
And when involved in the child's life?

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Okay, not involved?

Speaker 6 (30:38):
No sex over here?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
So that was so you were the contract was specifically
around using his firm to create life, and then the
conversation donor donor agreement and the conversations around that was
how present he can be if.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
You wanted to be what you wanted as well with.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
All bad right, yeah, okay, because so were you learning
those answers with him when you guys spoke the first time.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Did you already discuss like what you wanted before talking
to him?

Speaker 7 (31:06):
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Absolutely, because we had tried for years before, yeah, two
years before finally reaching out to him, and as you
just jumped straight to did y'all fuck? So did a
couple of other men that we had they were like
and like had only said yes because he thought he
was about to fuck me.

Speaker 12 (31:25):
Up.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Shut up you talking no more no, And I was
just like to know that's how you wanted it to be.
And then the other friend told me like, you know,
I love you, but a child needs a father in
his life.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
So the whole time you've been homophobic, bitch, get out
of here.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
So you have all these law well yeah, because even
that process, you don't want to inprograte with someone because
then they don't they don't respect this union.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, exactly exactly. So I was all like, wow, we
got to see really, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Didn't just to s k because of these experiences you had?
Did you give up at any point?

Speaker 6 (32:00):
No, it was always for her. He just assumed it
was me and I was just like it was always always.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Now let's talk about other breaks down a little bit. Pregnant,
you get the because we could see we know what
we're seeing in this dynamic, we're seeing someone more mask
presenting when choosing to carry Did you feel those stairs.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Twenty twenty three? She was not mask were a baby.
When I had this baby, I had nails on. So
it's just saying like when we met, we're very much different.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
How old?

Speaker 5 (32:36):
How old are the children now five and three?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Is there a conversation because of course you go to
schools and there's these whole dynamics about mommy daddy, you
know what I mean? Is there a conversation at all
about who the father is or is he able to
be introduced?

Speaker 1 (32:53):
What was the what was the who with your children?
I think she's with your children? Yeah, basically I think
the question roundabout is really like where do your children
think they've come from? Because yeah, that's taught in schools,
and I'm sure you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes, our kids haven't necessarily gotten to an age like
they came from my stemming.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's the photos.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
They can see our five year old who is on
the spectrum. It's very logical, it's very He's like my skin, mattress,
Mama's skin.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
I was in her belly.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Okay, was all match skins?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
You were in her belly now, okay, Mama and mommy. Yeah,
I have another like lesbian couple of it. I know
that are can seeing right now and I'm like drunk
one of who to me? Mama, she's like the people
waiting now, So I don't do said it's mama and mommy. Yeah,
but dad's I think it's daddy and dadda.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Have you had the conversation when they get older around
I mean clearly again and sex that they're going to
learn that the sperm has to swim. Oh, and that's
the thing. Lennox is our oldest is like she said,
are the spectrum? His superpower is fucking logic.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, you read everything, so he'll get back. He's already questioned,
I can't give you a when you get older. He'll
be like, what year? When?

Speaker 5 (34:10):
When should I ask you?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
He don't play. He's want to know and I need
to know with logic, and if it doesn't make sense, he'll.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Ask the qu all right, all right, I too enjoyed
that episode, but maybe not as much as this next one.
We don't really do many celebrities on the pod because,
to be fair, a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Are closed with you know, what they want to share
and they're kind of boring.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
But Tank was not h Tank, who's one of our
cousins on the Black Effect Network who pretty much ran
down on us at the Blacks, was like, when.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Am I going to be on a pod? Let's set
it up. So we ended up setting it up, but
it was the day after I got to go to
Hell's Kitchen. I never got to see it, which.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Is the Broadway show that is based around Alicia Kei
Jesus discography, and it was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
So here's the clip from our episode with Tank. It
is episode for twenty finding Love Again. Check it out.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
What if you had to choose out of these, like
you know you're Mount Rushmore, what is the perfect R
and B track or artists for baby making music? Because
today I'm fucking to Naomi Sharon, a little bit of Brent.
Actually Tarty's coming in and out of there sometimes too,
But for a beautiful, intimate, romantic moment, it's.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Really not the Brint or the Naomi. Who would it be?
What is Who is the artist that guaranteed panties off?
The fellas need this one, but I don't know what
the fuck the niggas be putting on.

Speaker 13 (35:51):
Yeah, you gotta. It depends on the woman. Yeah, I
think that's because because well then because women, you know,
women are different. Now, you know what I mean? Women?
You see you see more women under the trap post
and you see you know what I'm saying, like, so

(36:12):
it's it's like, it depends on the woman and what
she owned. If she if in that intimate moment she
want to smoke some weed and get some Hennessy in
her body and get tossed around, or or if she
you know, or if she wants some nice shade play
and she really wants somebody look deep into her eyes.

Speaker 10 (36:33):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (36:36):
It really depends on like because it's about listening, right,
and so you have to number one, be curious and
and ask questions because no one way works for everything,
not in this space. You know what I mean? Women,
every woman is absolutely different.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
You like.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
About all of them. They all like something different you.
They do had they day, they do thank you that
you got that chain on.

Speaker 10 (37:12):
I see in my I had nothing I'm having.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I want to I want to get away from.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Music for a little bit, but still digging into one
of my favorite records from you.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I made a game from When We which I love
in the remix. The remix is the one.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
God damn it when they say what remix is better
than like, God, I think you made like three.

Speaker 14 (37:34):
There's a lot of remixes.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You Oh my god, they went. But Nana, if you
have not heard that record one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So I made an ice record to get you to
talk a little bit, sex, little relationship, a little all
the things.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
So this one's gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
When we bring food into the bedroom to spice things up,
I always suggest you're going to finish the blank. So
it's a bunch of winds and I want to see
what you'd be doing when we bring food into the bedroom.
Have you never brought anything into the bedroom?

Speaker 10 (38:12):
I've tried and cool. When we say food, the same food,
I'll say ice. That's it.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's what I'm almost.

Speaker 10 (38:25):
That's the furthest we're going with food. Really absolutely, Wait.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Why as food failed, you went and play with food?

Speaker 10 (38:31):
You way food like the idea of getting sticky.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Okay, and I'm not mad.

Speaker 10 (38:39):
You gotta wipe that down.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
He said ice. He said, we're not making a mask.
Nowhere would I come.

Speaker 10 (38:47):
Again? It depends. I mean the ice can go on
to the ice.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Can go in.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Here.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
That's all he wanted to hear you saying now now here.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
The interesting one into relationships. When we argue, it's usually
because of miscommunication. Okay, period, ballid. I don't think we
have to go deeper into that. Now here's the fun one.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
When we role play, I always request.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
To be Now I'm just making some ship.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
You've never played before, or what would you like your
partner to dress up?

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Ass?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Like, has there ever been a scenario where we're like,
let's just have fun tonight, let's roll play something.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
This outfit could be role play. You want to know
what it would be? Okay, all you gotta do is
pull the beanie dead.

Speaker 10 (39:43):
You robbing all them banks and see if you can't.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Steal Wait, can't let me tell you if he wasn't
going to play tonight, I would have invited you. So
I'm going to quest Loft to this game night in
New York.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
He was like, Oh, I know how much you love
Sinners Ryan Cooper there, Please don't say it, because I'm
saying it every day. I'm like, please, Lord, don't let
me get one to know what to study?

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I know, and I don't care. I don't give a ship.
I'm just gonna be like, thank you so much.

Speaker 13 (40:11):
But you know what, and and the thing about that,
like with with with the role playing things like that,
like I'm so still aroused and amused by the simple things.
You know what, I mean like like, you know, like
my wife having on a a T shirt that just

(40:32):
just slightly shows the butchet's just a little bit and
slightly shows the panty and the print up front like that.

Speaker 10 (40:38):
That's like, that's.

Speaker 13 (40:41):
That's all I need? Like all like that easy. My
wife like this you need something is absolutely like she
don't have to do a bunch of a bunch of
extra anything. Now listen, I welcome it, for sure, but
I don't record wire. I am that much, you know,

(41:04):
ready and available for just the thought of it. Okay,
you're gonna walk around.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
But I did notice the men that have like a
lot of money or affluent or can get any woman
say these things that it's simplicity, like you ain't even
got to do too much.

Speaker 10 (41:20):
No, I don't.

Speaker 13 (41:20):
I find that people with more access get bore quickly,
you know what I mean, and they have to find
other ways, more ways to be stimulated.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I think right now a lot of us actually do,
whether you have money or not, because you can literally
open up your Twitter app or open up the Internet
and it's all right there.

Speaker 10 (41:38):
All right there.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Now, I want to role play with you just a
little bit. The last question when we're in public and
I whisper in your ear. I'm telling you finished, and
I want you to whisper it so the audience can
hear you.

Speaker 10 (41:54):
I want to devour.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Oh, be on the bank trying ship.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Okay, we love a big word and say devour is
not a big word. Girl, somebody could say eat Mandy,
I would take de vow devour my flower, devour my flower.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
There you have, there you have, there you have.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
While we're in celebrities, I considered this person to be
a celebrity.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
keV on stage. Mandy and I have actually both fucking
chose this in our pop episodes because Bitchy's kerchie. Who
would have thought? He's so much fun?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
You know, every time I'm in a random meeting of like,
it could be an audible meeting, it could be.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I was, I'm producing a nuggets Kevin. He's on fuse
and to be now, he taking all everything like he
can't stop.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
And it's funny because this one lady was like, oh
he would He's gonna be my first guest on my podcast.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I was like, okay, cool, everyone loves keV and she's
like yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
But then I thought he's too oversaturated, and I was like,
you know what, no why he is sick of KIV.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
There's no such thing.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
He told us the story when he shit himself. He
talked about running outside, he talked about his teas. He
talked about him and his wife and how they drank
together for the first time.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I love that story when they laid back to see
what it was gonna do to them. Like I also
want to congratulate him on air.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I'm not sure if we got the chance to, but
he did also join us as New York Times bestsellers
with his this year, So congratulations cav.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Enjoy episode four thirty four marriage tips and his shit story.
My favorite story was the Dudo.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
So let's get us. We're gonna don't believe how to
hear with shit.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
No way that this story is breakfast by the way,
He's like, I know many of you heard this. It's
one that I tell all the time. Here we go
get That's how I felt writing the book.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Literally, I didn't want to put the eye peg niggas
in the book, but literally it was like, Booty, you
have to have a chapter about Peggy. Find you was
just gonna be about anal sex, my first antal orgasm.
And then I was like, fuck, okay, it's what the
audience wants it. So I had to fucking add the
Peggy in there. So it was a whole. It was

(44:14):
a whole period now, so doo doo.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
There was other by the way I want y'all do story,
by the way, like check out the manifestation plan. That
was great, period and the freaking black women thinking and
racial tension great.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
But let's end on ship.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Let's end on Dodo. And then we normally like to
ask too how much it would take for you to
be shitted on? But we'll save that for the end.
Everyone has a number.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
We asked it almost every ten in eight years. Keeps
coming back up.

Speaker 15 (44:46):
The short version of the story is that, like many
things in my life, had I listened to Melissa, this
would not have happened. Okay, So we were in college
and at this time I had an apartment in Tacoma,
and she she lived with her parents, and but we
went to school and see so every Friday we would
ride the bus together to come a Dome station and
I would take her to her parent's house for the weekend,
drive her back on Sunday. In her dorm, she didn't

(45:09):
have like a full size refrigerator. She had a she
had like a gallon of Dryers Rocky Road ice cream
and she had bought it the night before.

Speaker 7 (45:16):
She was like, I was in a Rocky Road mood.
You know, I had some ice cream.

Speaker 15 (45:19):
She like, ate in some of it then just couldn't
fit in he refrigerator didn't have a freeze a part,
so she just left it on the things. She's like,
I'll throw it away when I leave the next day,
hadn't hadn't thrown it away yet.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
We're leaving.

Speaker 15 (45:29):
So I get to her dorm to you know, walk
there to ride the bus, and I'm like, oh, snap,
I love Rocky Road and I'm gonna have something. She
was like, oh, no, okav that's that's been sitting out
on line. I was just gonna throw that away when
we left, like, don't eat that.

Speaker 10 (45:39):
And I was like why.

Speaker 15 (45:41):
She was like, it's been sitting out all night, Like
you're gonna mess your stomach up. And for whatever reason,
I took that as a challenge.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Wait, this wasn't about milk. I thought you were like
ice cream is light. I mean, I don't know, but
reading it, I'm thinking, oh, he's lactose. No, Well, he's black,
all like, we're all yeah, we're all lao.

Speaker 7 (45:57):
I think it's like no was sitting.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
But also every black person is like us.

Speaker 7 (46:01):
I've heard tolerance.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yes, it's the thing. I heard this.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
Actually, we're allergic to dairy. We are drinking we shouldn't.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
And it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
I just found out too almond and old milk not healthy.
We shouldn't be drinking up milk. It's the algorithm. The
algorithm said nothing. I said no, They said all my
milk was away about too much water.

Speaker 7 (46:23):
They said, oh, nook, too much water is bad for you.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Wait, it's on the subway takes back to the ship.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Yeah, but now this makes sense.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Ice cream we hold ship after ice cream one.

Speaker 7 (46:35):
But if you eat warm ice cream, it'll happen faster.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
You wanted to eat warm ice cream.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
I just really once I saw it, I was like, wait,
you eat it.

Speaker 15 (46:42):
I ate before a bus, before a bus, and she
was like why to prove to her that my stomach
was made of steel, because for whatever reason, when she
told me not to eat it, I took it as
a chune.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
She was like, Kevin's gonnass your stone. And I was like,
you know, my stomach I can eat this.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
She was like, I do that well leftovers. I love like,
depending on how many days this in there, Like, be fine,
I'm gonna kill me.

Speaker 10 (47:03):
I do that.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
That's how you felt. Okay, I've done minutes from the.

Speaker 15 (47:09):
Oh man, it was probably I mean we were getting
ready to leave, so it was probably no more than
twelve minutes.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
How many minutes thry on the bus it was like an.

Speaker 15 (47:19):
Hour and ten minutes And I lasted an hour and
five minutes. I was on the bus on myself. On
the bus, I was almost there.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
This thing like even knew you should have just walk
us through. One of the best lines I've ever read
in the book.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
I don't know if I'm saying it right because I
looked out at my backpack and thought about the journals
in there, and I was.

Speaker 7 (47:43):
I was gonna do it with my backpack. But it
was like a forty dollars backpack. It was a little
jan sport.

Speaker 15 (47:50):
I don't have forty dollars again, Like, if I do
this backpack, I just won't have no backpack no more.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
So I'm not dodoing it in my back.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Oh wait, no, you would have had people would have sawn.

Speaker 15 (47:59):
You would have saw me more than people sent me.
I loved that background, but didn't start from a fart. No,
So what happened was like I was fighting for my
life for an hour. Like we get in the thing
and Melissa went to sleep. She's like, all right, goes
to sleep. Start off with no traffic, and this is
how I'm like, just for like thirty minutes, and then

(48:20):
I get real hot. I start sweating and stuff, and
I just can never get comfortable. And I'm like this,
you know, like breathing hard and stuff, and the thing
is about the human body, which I don't understand.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
To this day.

Speaker 15 (48:30):
You don't understand when you get close to the bathroom,
your mind thinks you're at the bathrooms.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Terrible.

Speaker 7 (48:35):
The worst thing ever happened is we get off the
freeway to get to the bus station.

Speaker 15 (48:39):
There's three red lights left, Like if I could just
make it, the bee s three l like I'm gonna
destroy the bathroom to come a dumb station, which is
already discussing because like a stain of stell toilet, it's
like a jail toilet. Yeah, but I gotta do what
I gotta do. So I'm there and I'm like, you know,
your sphincter. It wasn't sphincty like I.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
Remember, like I have. I'm closing my booty hole as
much as I can.

Speaker 15 (49:01):
Little farce are escaping, and every time I like, dude
would come a little closer, so that.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Way you're making me squeeze my boot right squeeze.

Speaker 7 (49:10):
I'm doing butt kinggles and I'm holding it.

Speaker 15 (49:13):
And then I remember like a little fark came out
and then I couldn't close, Like it didn't go it
didn't go all the way back.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
No morning.

Speaker 15 (49:21):
I'm like, oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, and
then it just like start like rumbling and I'm trying
to close and it's not closing.

Speaker 7 (49:28):
And then it was just like oh no, no, oh no, no, no,
dude's coming out. Dude's coming ding, it's coming out, just
coming out. Dude is coming out.

Speaker 15 (49:36):
And then it just like opened and then just it
was opening, and then my butt was opened, and then
the dudeo was coming out, and I was just I
kind of at one point, I just kind of resigned
myself and I was just like I could not hold
it anymore.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Literally, that's the type of dodoo though, Like there's no money,
I said, it had to be solid. If I got
shitted on, that's the type of doodoo that I couldn't because.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I know that was it was just I had had
literally the rocky road melted by.

Speaker 15 (50:07):
That's She's sleep almost the whole duration. But when I
when when it was happening, she she mysteriously woke up
and she looked at me, and I was just.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Like, oh, she loves you.

Speaker 10 (50:20):
She does.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
It was like because you shorted shitted all the thing
and it was like the full thing.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
How did So?

Speaker 15 (50:30):
I had wind breakers on that was at the bottom,
blue wind breakers on. Those were my pants. When I
stood up, it like and it and it clumped down
and it got Doodo was stuck at my ankles and
the wind breakers really kept the dodo there. So I
like doodo on my stock and on my ankle. So

(50:51):
I had to like walk to the bathroom with dodo ankles.
That is discusting, That is discussing true story. I threw
my draws away, I like got the doodo out in
the like tracked.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
The windbreakers back on.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
I had to go home.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Wait you didn't.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
I had to still go home. This is at the
bus station. There was nothing I'm still the.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Girl wife didn't ask anybody if they had an extra
pair of pains.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
Who cares extra pants?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
A bus, don't people got luggage?

Speaker 7 (51:20):
No, this is no, It's like people just coming home
to work. It's just a bus. You go to work
in Seattle, you come home from work.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Sundays last night, and I'm thinking, I'm sure you've told
this story.

Speaker 16 (51:31):
It's my closers, like the chocolate Sunday. Also, so I
like had doodo everywhere, ye Rocky road down your.

Speaker 15 (51:42):
Leg, down my leg. And I had to go to
my apartment before I took her home. I had to
go to my apartment and take a shower through all
those clothes away, obviously, And she never like she just
was like, well, should have listened. She never even had
to say it. She just had an air about her
that was like wow, alrighty.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
And my last pick for the Decisions Decisions episode of
choice comes from Damn it is I guess a celebrity.
She's an actor that you guys may be familiar with
from the Hulu peacock.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I don't know what fucking streaming channel, but she was
on a Harlem and Jerry Johnson is my pick.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
For the next My favorite pick of the year, it's
The Contract to My Polyamory, and I chose this and
it would have been to Hear, but to Hear's episode
just dropped. What I really want us to do more
in twenty twenty six is get more lifestyle people on
more couples to talk about their dynamics of how they
navigate their relationships. She's a married woman who came into

(52:50):
most of her relationships with a polyamory contract, and she's
really it was just really dope. I also really love
her sharing how her mama was a hoe because boy,
as Weezi says, it is wholereditary. Really, sir, I want
y'all to check out a clip from my favorite episode,
episode four twenty five, The Contract to My Polyamory, featuring

(53:13):
Jerry John.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
So, after therapy and being together, what was the aha?
I gotta put a ring on it.

Speaker 12 (53:24):
I actually put a ring on it before we were
going to therapy, but I did this shrooms intu loom
and I wass in the loom.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
I was like, walking down the beach, did you even
have the ring?

Speaker 10 (53:39):
No?

Speaker 12 (53:39):
Oh, oh, we did go We found this ring upstairs
at this venture shop and we bought this ring, but
it wasn't like it was like in case it happens
like this is the We didn't want to pass up
on the opportunity of getting this ring. It was a
beautiful ring and we both loved it finger.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Yeah, this ring. You didn't buye an adventure shop and
to looon because I ain't never seen one.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
No, you bought it in New York, upstate. Okay, you
buy this ring and a vintage shop that it's on
her ring finger perfectly just in case we get married.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Who was it not just in case we get We
didn't even talk about it, like we just kind of
like she tried the ring on her ring finger and
then I bought it, and then I had it like
talking about it, which was interesting because we talking about yes.

Speaker 12 (54:23):
And then I would do this funny thing when she
would say something smart. I mean, we get we just
do stuff with each other. But when she would say
something smart or something, I would do this because the
ring was in this pocket. You better watch out, bro.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
She was just crack up. That's what this little energy
is what makes me feel like.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
You know, my man and I've been dating two years
and we just talked very deeply about exactly what we want,
marriage planning, whatever. So I feel like when we get
to that stage sometimes you're like, oh when right, Sometimes
I'd be doing shit where I'd be sucking up, like
let's just say my birthage one maybe yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
You'd be looking at me like and you think, I
can't go back right on the line.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
And it's scary because when you are in these moments.
You just made me think something about therapy. We were
having a conversation the other day where he was like,
sometimes I wish you could hear yourself from someone else's
like if.

Speaker 12 (55:17):
You don't see it with our when our brother says it,
it's like absolutely not, no, no no, And it's like, no,
you need somebody else to hear you and let them
tell you because you're not gonna hear it from me.
And it's also like with all of our endoor friends
and the loved thing, and it's like I want to,
I want to, I want to seem perfect to you.
So when when you say, when you give me these
notes or this feedback that I can't see, it's hard

(55:41):
to contend with from your partner, right, It's hard to
be seen in that way.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
And so it is nice to be with.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Where most of your arguments surrounding open relationship things, No,
we had a few of that.

Speaker 12 (55:53):
No, it just we had a there was a It
was a sticky situation because she felt like, like, I
get why you're ethically non monogamous. It makes sense on
per paper, and it makes sense why I could be.
I just am contending with like, am I or not?

(56:14):
Did you did you give her? I gave her my work, shet,
my Ethical Nonminogamy Framework worksheet.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Y'all know?

Speaker 2 (56:22):
This is this is this is where, this is why Hey,
y'all She has it in a Google doc in the
Google drive on her phone. Yes, I would love could
you pull up yes, the Ethical Nominogamy contract. Yes, and
if we could go through yes, the points and mind
you real quick. This is something that when you meet

(56:42):
a partner, you get to them yes on the first date. Well,
when it's getting when it's when it's getting there.

Speaker 12 (56:48):
Because what I found was I was going on dates
with women who had so many preconceived notions about polyamory.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
That I was saying the same thing on a cycle.

Speaker 12 (56:58):
I'm like, why why do I Why am I keep
like proving this or like I'm like handing out the
facts or something. So when you got questions about it,
if you say, if you say, well, I think people
who are Polly are this, and I think that, here
goes my ethical Nominogamy framework worksheet. Here is why I
am Polly. If this is my Virgal Moan and Vergal rising,
here's why I am Polly. If you can get down

(57:19):
with this, we can do this. But you know the
baseline of what you're coming into, so there's no assumptions
or preconceived notions or.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Any of that.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
September.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
No, I'm not a verg I'm a Virgal Moon and Rising. O.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
My god, that's pod.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
Y'all even know that? Okay, So what is your framework?

Speaker 4 (57:39):
What?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
What does it read on that document?

Speaker 12 (57:42):
So it says why, it says Jerry's c n M
he NM poly framework. It says as an intellectual processor,
it's helpful for me to write things out to process,
understand and express my ideas and feelings.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
The first one why.

Speaker 12 (57:57):
Firstly, I like to start by saying that I am
ilamorous by orientation, meaning that it is directly correlated.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
With who I am and how I move through the world.

Speaker 12 (58:07):
It is also connected to my need to decolonize my body, thoughts,
and ways of being. For me, ethical nonmnogamy or polyamory
is directly dismantling the patriarchy. Queerness and white supremacy are
direct opposites in how they function in my life.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
This supports my desire for expansion in this lifetime.

Speaker 12 (58:27):
Having multiple intimate, romantic, and loving relationships helps me to
sharpen my communication skills, learn and address where my blind
spots are, and.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Pushes my capacity for compassion, empathy, and love.

Speaker 12 (58:41):
Love in many forms is the perfect definition for me.
Love is abundant in my life and conjunction and conversation
with the universe. My being non monogamous is a continuing
conversation with myself.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
How I spread love and intimate relationships and.

Speaker 12 (58:58):
The freedom that comes without the compound right any Western.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Ideals of monogamy and heteronormativity.

Speaker 12 (59:06):
Also, the word intimate is mostly faceted because it is
not limited to sex.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
I think sex is just a.

Speaker 12 (59:14):
Minuscule part of intimacy, and because people limit intimacy to
those that are sexually involved with it stunts the expansion
of how we can connect and express ourselves as humans.
I just want to feel free in my expression of
love outside of any binary including the ones we've learned.
Because all this is what we learned about how we
should exist in relationships. I also know that how I

(59:37):
show up in the world, in all of my identities
with that elevated expression of love is a radical act.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
It is what I call liberation.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Honey. That wasn't a theater kid right there? Pyschology ed
and I'm gonna need the transcript for this episode so
i can copy and paste. I'm gonna need different So
have you ever given this worksheet to say one and
they've been like, oh, yeah, this isn't for me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
No, people want to be with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Me, you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
My final episode pick from Decisions Decision is actually one
that I feel like people may forgot about. But she
was really dropping some tea. It was Matchmaker Maria. She
also had a book that came out, which is why
she came on. Her episode is four twenty three, but
I was kind of feeling it because I feel like
she was giving some antiquated shit that low TV working.

(01:00:32):
She gave this one tip about like make him come
upstairs and fix something, and I was like, yes, bitch,
bring the builders back. But also speaking to builders, she
talked about personality types and how basically when matchmakers, some
matchmakers are like literally giving you a rundown, not just
based on compatibility of like I like to you know,

(01:00:54):
I don't know, go shopping, You like to shop, we.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Like to travel whatever, more so like how your brain works.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
And I thought that was really cool because I think
it gives us all the chance to like self diagnose
is the person I'm with compatible personality wise?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I don't even think I realized that I took her
advice this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
So I know, I got a friend who'll be getting
all them gifts and so five, but my niggas helped
me build them and put them together. So my one
boyfriend Tree, he helped put together my treadmill, and then
quarter Zip helped me put together my coffee maker. And
the nigga who buys me the gifts, every time he

(01:01:32):
comes over, I make him take out all of my
boxes or my trash or pick up my heavy boxes
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
So this is something I do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
The nigga advises you the gifts, he don't have to
put them together, but that nigga better.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Well, if you're around to put them together, then he'd
be getting mad when he comes and the shit not
set up. So now then that people help me set
it up. I do like watching rich niggas get to work.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Oh yeah, my homegirl is fucking with some rapper. He's
he's on all of our phones and he ain't shit
and he got a bunch of kids. But she was like, girl,
he be coming over and he buys her like really
lavish gifts and she'd be like, Oh, when you leave,
can you go do this and put this in my car?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
And can you go take my trash? You can do this.
She said that he like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Makes jokes about like I'll pay somebody to do it
for you. She no, these are acts of service.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
God do me always have something fun nigga to put
together when he come over.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Let me tell Okay check out match Maker Maria episode
four twenty three and.

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
Yah yah.

Speaker 14 (01:02:37):
So I just want to say that it's not that
you're creative, it's not you're entrepreneurial. And I think that
entrepreneurs is to make really poor matches with other entrepreneurs
because you have a baby. This is your baby, your
podcast is your baby, your studio is a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
That's your baby.

Speaker 14 (01:02:54):
And if you're an entrepreneur, your baby takes precedence over
his baby. So if you're an I'm so sorry. I
don't know what your partners do. So I'm not trying
to like offend you or give you a midlife crisis.
I'm not the same investors. I'm not with entrepreneurship real
estate investment in a way. But I was wondering recently,

(01:03:14):
is my relationship working so well because of the flexibility
with time and the schedules this man I dated someone
with a nine to five even though great money. Now
I have health insurance jump all over the world.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
With me because his money's made on his phone, through
his tenants whatever. Like, maybe this is really a better fit,
and maybe I should have been looking for people that
didn't have such a demanding schedule, because I do.

Speaker 14 (01:03:38):
I can't answer that question because I haven't temperamentally typed
you yet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I don't.

Speaker 14 (01:03:44):
I would have to like be in the mode to
like personally type you. I have a feeling you're an
explore so just based on the little that I know you,
the fact that you just told me you didn't finish college.
And I write about this in my book. It's in
chapter two. But you seem to me like an explorer,
and that means that your match is also someone who's
an explorer who jumps with you. You seem like a builder,

(01:04:07):
which is fun. If you are, that's a person who
believes in like you can still be someone who likes
to have fun. My sister's a builder. But like you
like a certain order of things. You like a certain
process of things. You like it when there's like a
hierarchy or some sort of precedent and tradition to go on.

(01:04:28):
I have a feeling, and I only just met you today,
but I have a feeling that I bet you to
fight and knock heads on on let me no, no, no,
I'll tell you on what.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
No, no, no, hold on.

Speaker 14 (01:04:46):
You can still be friends building confronts of explorer. Don't
get me wrong, I can tell you what you fight
on because if I am correct, if you are an
explorer and you're telling about who you're dating, that totally
makes sense that you would both be like this. I
have only spoken to Mandy for literal thirty seconds before
we started recording, and I was like, okay, really seems
like a builder, So like, watch your words. Talk in precedence,

(01:05:07):
don't don't surprise her, like, this is what I do, right,
I have to read personalities for a living. So the
kind of fights that a builder explore friendship or relationship
would have is you have a certain order of how
you like to do things, and she's constantly wiping the
lines away of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Let's be free.

Speaker 14 (01:05:24):
You are constantly thinking from your gut, whereas you exactly
you excel in freedom. You have a lot more vitality.
You are always going to seem younger than Mandy because
of that vitality. You are more traditional and I'm not
saying sexually. You're attesting freedom to care for child like
she is Queen Elizabeth, IID, and you are Princess Diana. Okay, Like,

(01:05:49):
do you understand what the difference is here? No, no, no,
I definitely appreciate what you're saying, because no, and this
is not a bad even my scissor's a builder, so
I but even.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Hearing what is making sense for her and her partner, like,
that's not gonna makes sense for you to bid her.
I just dated someone who was retired, and as soon
as life picked back up for me, him doing nothing
and being mad that I was busy was like, oh fuck, nigga,
get out of retire. But nothing else different than no,

(01:06:21):
the freedom. I didn't need someone, no, no, no, Well
I have someone who's really busy right now. He's an actor,
but like I'm so happy he's about to be on
set like all summer. So I'm like, oh, nigga, I'm busy,
you busy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Like I don't like, I didn't want my partner to
be able to just be everywhere with me all the time,
because that's not what I want in partnership.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
And I remember, it's so crazy because me and my
ex actually got into an argument because in me waiting
for the world to open up. At the time, I
was looking to invest in an eighteen wheeler truck. My
best friend ended up doing it, and immediately I went
to telling him, great, you could be the driver, and
I immediately went to try to hire him to get

(01:07:06):
him a job. And when I ended up opening my
studio instead and didn't go that route, we ended up
having an argument because he was like, I feel like
you just want me to work for you or do this,
and I was like, I want you to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
You being retired wasn't fulfilling for me to be with
someone who could just do and be there whenever I
needed want oriented And I thought I wanted that at
one point, because I did want someone there when I
said be there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
But then it did start to be like, I don't
know if these I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Want to any types necessarily match goals though, because I could.
The fur from a builder being rich in life to
me is time, Like this is explore speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I want money and my mother fucking time, I hustle
hard as fuck.

Speaker 14 (01:07:50):
I'm telling you your cheonduta types too. I think you're
a builder director, and I think you're an exploring negotiator,
which is like wild, because that is what is keeping
your This is what keeping your friendship, is your director
and your negotiator, or is what's keeping you guys glued together.
And that's like a good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
And I think I think you know.

Speaker 14 (01:08:09):
Look, the point of personality typing is not like, Okay,
you're not a match. It's about you can if you're
a builder, you can date an explorer, but you have
to set that expectation early on. Communicate constantly. Here is
what makes me feel less anxious, especially what makes me
feel confused.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Yes, and I think.

Speaker 14 (01:08:27):
I think that's it's so so much of what makes
a relationship a poor relationship is because we are not
communicating enough what we expect from other people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
But also being self aware of this expectation is like, also,
what are some we may not know? So Manny's a builder.

Speaker 14 (01:08:46):
There's four types. Okay, So this is actually from a
past mentor of mind, doctor Helen Fisher. Unfortunately she passed
away about six months ago. Wow, you're reading my book,
damn it. But I talk about her in chapter two.
She came up with the Helen Fisher inventory system, which
is resembles a lot of what my grandmother's personality typing
system was. She used the Greek gods, right, Zoos, Stardomus,
Athena era and what an aphrodite And so there's four types.

(01:09:12):
She's aphrodite era.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
You are the queen your era, You are the queen
of the guy, he's queen era.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, all right, now it's come the time for the
horse did the old If you guys missed me singing
like that, I still give it, give it up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
And we know you guys get your little clip at
the end of the episodes. But if you want the royalty.
It is on Patreon just five dollars a month. You
can get the audio and even the y g d's
we do every Wednesday. That's also available on Patreon, the
full video and all of that. You want to go first,
give us first. I could go first episode of the year.

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Now, this one does have two parts, so it's Keto
tells one. It's episode two eighty three. Part two was
episode two eighty four. By the way, do you bitch
just hear that if you didn't know, there's almost three
hundred bonus episodes over on the Patreon.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Okay, that's great. Weed than one hundred episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
We're here to have seven eight hundred episodes recorded. It's insane, Monni.
That doesn't even include the town halls. The town halls
don't get numbered.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
My teeth have changed, my hair has changed, my personality,
and my body has changed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Y'all should see these pictures. I should post. Let y'all
see the growth. I was gonna have to ask your
permission first because I was gonna do this video like you.
You see how a czar has been posting her before
and after, So I was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Gonna post some of us. But boy, I gotta hit
your permission person, because we look rough heard my sono
in was fuck oh yo. My nigga said, you look
like the viracials that really can't figure it out. That's
all your old teeth look girls who needed help and

(01:11:02):
I own. But anyways, so my episode is to eighty three.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
By the way, I am gonna be at Hedonism too
again Labor Day weekend in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
If you haven't yet join, join me. Join.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
You know the festivities, the nakedness, the raunchiness, the fun
at bit dot Lee Slash Chacko Bliss.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
That'll be in the description. Make sure you put that
Mandy Be told you about it plus the hole.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Anyways, the clip for this is not actually anything from Hetero.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Well it is, I guess. It was one of the
classes that Kasha did and I wanted to make sure
we inserted it here so y'all see what you're missing
that she gave us a deep throat tip that made
us realize this is why we started the Scottdamn podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Anyways, here's the clip from episode to eighty three Heat
Hotails Part What So Kasha has an oral class and
mind you, me and Crystal really liked your energy, we
ain't going to know. So me and Crystal was like,
we're going to support Casha for the class. I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
So we go to our class and we.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Both are like this, we know, Dick, So I mean,
this will be just us supporting. No, I felt like
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
So I was talking about what I heard during this class,
and then I would love for you to demo what
you were so then you guys get to see it.
So I will briefly talk about what this class was,
mind you to give you context. It started at twelve thirty. Yeah,
this is twelve thirty pm in the afternoon, and the

(01:12:44):
after this ISA and okay, that's a good class, sun
Yeah class, Yeah, it was oh yeah, no, it started
eleven third but we loved it already. But one till
like one we oh yeah was they second?

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
Real?

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Dick, I'm about telling you what I saw and going down.

Speaker 17 (01:12:59):
No, No, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
It was crazy. So I walk into this class and
when I first get in, she has a diagram of
the vagina all on the screen. So I was like, oh,
this is like a real class.

Speaker 17 (01:13:13):
Okay cool, and so next thing I know, she sits
in the chair. She's like, yeah, so you have this happening,
you have this happening down here. She takes this thing
to see a demo, and she's like, you have to
just know that you're not gonna choke and die.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
And she puts this whole law what's the fuck out
of her mouth thro there, and I was like, that's
what the fuck is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
So I'm like, Okay, yeah, I think I could do that,
so let me listen. She goes into another segment where
she's like, just so you know, your throat is connected
to No, you can't that.

Speaker 13 (01:13:50):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Telling y'all what I saw at twelve thirty and afternoon.
She takes the dealo. She's like, just so you know,
not sure if you know how natomy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Works, but your throat is connected to your pussy. You
can not only come by sucking dick, you can squirt
because you're it's connected to you're.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Demonstrators.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I love her because this is literally and I'm like,
so I'm listening to her and I'm like, bitch, thought
they connected with my pussy?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
But I do get turned on, But I thought it
was like a psychological thing. She has a dress on
y'all know, lie MINDI there's a good forty Yeah. Then
I feel like forty people.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Are watching this class. This takes place on the piandle Barny.
So next thing you know, Mandy she's just in the
front diaphragm up. She's like, yeah, don't connected to your pussy.
At this point, I'm like not believing her. So she
sits on the chair and she's like, yeah, ladies, you
can squirt by sucking dick.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
And the next thing i know, she got gone. She's
and I'm like, oh, okay, this is why my niggas
can always fuck other bitches because I hate it. I
hate sucking dick. I hate it. I dislike it. I okay,
but when it hits the band of my throat, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Like a puddle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Every single tind to be different. I'm jealous, I said, bro,
you know what it is.

Speaker 11 (01:15:12):
It's like this, right, A lot of people don't believe shit,
but like, I've been doing this for a long time now, right,
and I'll be experimenting with shit. So you learn stuff
in school when you're becoming you know, I'm board certified
as a clinical sexyle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Just cool, but some shit just requires application.

Speaker 11 (01:15:27):
So for me, I told them, I was like, I
went to the dentist one time and they were trying
to like get a like the mirror in the back
of my throat, and like every time we kept doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
I remember this is years ago, well before my throat,
was before I grew up.

Speaker 11 (01:15:43):
So I'm like, as it gets there, I feel like anybody,
you put a thing right there, you know you're so
he goes, I want you to press this nerve ending
in your hand. Yes, And so I would tell people like,
there's a nerve ending in your hand, and I'm like,
hold it up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
This fight the power.

Speaker 11 (01:15:58):
And when you're fighting the power, you're gonna gain some.
So I was like, and just stop doing that, you'll
open up your throat. And that's when I shove the
dealer the first time, right. But then that's when I
was like, Okay, now there's a connection. Think about it
right now. If you go try it, try it, you
feel your pussy. I felt a little key, a little push,
like right, So just by going, your pussy does a jump.

(01:16:20):
So if you could learn to control your throat, you
can actually control your pussy. So when I say it,
nobody believes it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
I didn't believe. I wouldn't believe you. How do I
not saw that?

Speaker 11 (01:16:32):
I was like, I'm not trying to come on command
because see, like I'm in the BDSIM life.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
So I like the practice of hoping it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
You like, please don't come on throw no no, no no.

Speaker 11 (01:16:43):
But if you ever noticed sometimes if you ever had
experience where you feel like you might pee when you're
throwing up, yes, like if you're you're and you're like, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
So if you're glad or slow, what you're in, that's
what you're gonna push out.

Speaker 11 (01:16:54):
But it always some people before you have seite, before
you didn't think clear bladder because it takes like eight
dollars for the gladder to fill again. And so you
can eliminate that bullshit process of thinking that, oh, it's
gonna be P, it's gonna be p. It can be
mixed with urine if you don't clear your bladder, but
if you clear your batter, baby, that's vaginal fluids and secretions.

Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
And all kind of beautiful lands.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
One of the last things Mandy said before we got
into the clip was that the reason we started the podcast,
like one of the reasons we started the podcast and
that's how I felt about my pick. So episode two
seventy eight, Ace of Spades anime Noises and Pricing Your
Kinks featuring a dom named Jacks Prince salf know now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
What it is really, By the way, the patrons really
enjoyed that episode.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
She need I think we should.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
We should just interview her again when we come to
LA for another Patreon like, yeah, I'm down.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Were so much life story, so y'all, the tea was
so hot. First of all, we didn't even know when
we were interviewing her that she currently was living in
a shelter.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
I'm not saying this is the great part of her story,
but what made her story so interesting is that we
don't meet sex workers that don't try to get on
their fucking high horse.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
And she was like, yo, I was in a relationship,
I had to leave. I'm doing this for myself.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
She was kind of telling us about what it's like
to be in there and about how what the other
women are experiencing, but also some of the crazy kinks
that some of her clients, like how much money she's
gotten in the past, how it could look like today,
how she changes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
She's young, really fun and super smart. Check out a
clip from episode to seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Eight bit chat.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Because this is horrible decisions, Let's get it to the sex.
I do want to ask you, because you said what
led you to drugs was trauma. Is there any connection
with trauma to you becoming a sex worker? And have
you made those parallels at all. There's a lot of
people who assume, like the sex work is not always

(01:18:53):
a choice that someone makes, and so I do want
to know how you got into the line of sex
work you feel empowered by enough to change your name
even like I want to know kind of your journey
into sex work and what you do and what your
profession overall is in the ivice.

Speaker 9 (01:19:10):
I just wanted to be careful with how I answer
this because, unfortunately I'm gonna say this, there is a
massive fucking difference between sex slave and consensual sex worker.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Okay, I talk about it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:20):
I have been trafficked and pimped, I have, but I've
also been an independent sex sex work, which is what
I am now. As far as the trauma for it
for me, Like I said, I've got plenty of predators
in my family, and that's something that I think we
do not talk about in black and POC families and
are the predators that we protect in the fucking family yep,
the creepy uncle, the creepy uncles and everything like that
who were preaching God and everything like that. But then
they'll be like, you know, it's creepy as can fucking be.

(01:19:42):
For me, sex, the urge to do BDSM specifically was
a rebellion against me being forced to do full service
sex work for a good chunk of my life, and
not even full service sex work, but being a sex
slave right against my will, you know, and having to
explore my body young and having to kind of understand
my body like way younger than I should have been,

(01:20:03):
Like I should have been playing with legos I should
have been I should not have been playing with niggasgs
Like let's be real.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
I love that you're separating too. Then, yes, having a pimp,
which choosing that lifestyle is way different than being a
BDSM for for more or sex work, Like those are
two completely different.

Speaker 9 (01:20:20):
Different things, and the difference is the power dynamic is
that I am I'm I'm always going to be pimps.

Speaker 6 (01:20:26):
Down hose up. I know that that was an old
HBO special pits up. Hose down.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I am Barry.

Speaker 9 (01:20:30):
I am Barry, hose up, pimps down. Okay, work for yourself,
because what's the pimp doing what you're doing. You're doing
all the fucking work. You're the one at risk of
getting all the STDs and everything like. You're the one
who is risking your body, your mental health, everything like that.
This nigga is out there, you know, just collecting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Poorly and still treating you like shit. But thats the gag.

Speaker 6 (01:20:46):
It's still treating you like shit.

Speaker 9 (01:20:47):
So for me, it was when I decided to get
into BDSM. This was probably when I was sixteen or seventeen,
and I grew up in Oh wow, I was young.

Speaker 7 (01:20:56):
I was young.

Speaker 9 (01:20:56):
I was a child I'm not gonna say a child
sex worker. I was a child sex slave. And the
first time that I ever got in a BDSM was
when I was in high school with this one guy
because I went to first time to school in Chicago's
one of raised Chicago, Illinois, and then I went to
school in Aurora, Illinois, which is this little northwest suburb
of Illinois. So the best way I could describe it

(01:21:16):
would be like not quite like like a broke Beverly Hills.
That's the best way that I could describe it. For
like something here and there was this one white guy
who was like completely just totally like all over me.
And he's just like listen, like I'm into some things,
and I'm just like and that's that's that, right there
is the trigger. I'm into some things especially yeah, and
I'm just like okay, like what are you into? And

(01:21:39):
he's just like listen, like could I pay you to
wear like some high hills and stuff on my nuts?
Like in between class and I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
Just like in between Elas was his class. No, we
were both in high school. Were both in high school.

Speaker 9 (01:21:49):
So oh wait, he was a high school high schooler.
He is a high school and knew that he wanted
his ball. I'm not even kidding. When it comes to
BDSM and kink, most people know the signs there from
a young age. Those seeds are planted.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Holy, something you can wake up.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
And decide to fucking do.

Speaker 9 (01:22:05):
This is something that is typically a seed that has
been planted, whether that is you've been exposed to it
by grooming or anything like that. Right that is because
you saw something on HBO or showtime before you were
old enough to do anything like that. But BDSM is
absolutely one of those things that you're kind of like,
you kind of know really young, and I'm just like,
let me think about I.

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
Didn't say no, because there's a thing.

Speaker 9 (01:22:27):
The fact that I didn't say no after everything that
I'd been through at that point was kind of like
this is And.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
That's the interesting thing too about celebrating sex work when
you've gone through things like being trafficked or being pimped.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
What age does it take the turn to where you're like,
I love this work because I mean control if you're
even there.

Speaker 9 (01:22:46):
I came to love what I do and fully committed
to being a financial dominatrix and a dominatrix and wanted
to be one of the best when I had a
college professor.

Speaker 6 (01:22:55):
This is the crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Not everything stemming from school, bitch, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
high school.

Speaker 6 (01:23:02):
Listening y'all got d right, this is why you want
to go back to school.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
No, but and don't want to he kids in this room.

Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
Watch all babies, please, watch all babies.

Speaker 9 (01:23:08):
Please watch all babes, especially if they are pretty and
brown and they are around me of these freaky ass
white teachers.

Speaker 6 (01:23:11):
Please watch all babies, Please, watch all fucking babies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Wait, what the fuck happened with the professor?

Speaker 6 (01:23:15):
So this was of course he was white, of course
he was. He's a psychology professor, like, of course he was.
Of course he was.

Speaker 9 (01:23:20):
And that's kind of why I love BDSM because BDSM
is so largely psychological sex work.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
I will say psychological, i'd say sex is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
I say it all the time, like there's the physical
element of sex, but it's ninety percent psychological. It's so hoolhofortable.
You feel how much, how attracted you are, so much
is about in your head.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
When it comes to sex. Okay, get to the guys, psychology, psychology,
fucking professor to not get into it.

Speaker 9 (01:23:44):
So I remember because this is a question that I
was asked on the form to fill out this What
was the crazy thing a sub ever said to you?
And I was like nineteen eighteen at this point, and
he kept me after class because I am always because
my mother was one of Chicago's first black uh professors
of psychology, first ten.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
And I'm just like so and she was one of
marked with doctor King.

Speaker 10 (01:24:02):
She was a.

Speaker 6 (01:24:04):
Civil activist, everything like that. So thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:24:08):
I'm always gonna challenge you on your bullshit. I'm just like, okay, listen,
I get that this is all your data, but like,
what about the data for like all the black kids,
what about all the informat here lack autistics?

Speaker 10 (01:24:15):
Like what is this?

Speaker 9 (01:24:16):
And he kept me after class wind and I thought
it was gonna be to cust me out because I
would always like to embarrass this man like human lady
was my cake before I even realized you.

Speaker 6 (01:24:23):
Know that that was our dynamic.

Speaker 13 (01:24:24):
And he.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Now he was turned on by you humiliating it.

Speaker 9 (01:24:29):
Look, bro, he took that stance, he took that stands
where he just leaned against his desk. He had his
little tab and everything like that. He's like, I like
the way you How old are you at this time?
I was in nineteen or eighteen? Okay, so still finding
myself like still a child, like as far as I'm concerned,
especially from where I am now, that's baby, You're still
a baby's eighteen nan. I'm sorry to all the eighteen
nineten yoll y'all, y'all, y'all still a fucking pampa.

Speaker 6 (01:24:47):
Y'all don't know shit yet.

Speaker 9 (01:24:49):
But explicitly like he was just like, I like the
way you challenged me, you know, and I like your
thought process and everything. And that's how they typically start.
They'll they'll butter you up before they actually get to
what the fuck they actually want from you. And then
he's just like, I, you know, I wanted to know,
I'd like to I'd like to know if you would
be interested in an offer. And I'm just like, what's
the offer? He's like, I love.

Speaker 6 (01:25:10):
Donard Black woman like and I'm just kind of sitting
here like He's just like, I love powerful.

Speaker 9 (01:25:17):
I love them so much. You know, they turned me
on so much. There's something very cerebral about them. That
was the first time I have to google that shit.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
Let me what does cerebral mean? Like, I'm just like,
all right, that's my first like introduction to it. And
he's just like, listen, I wanted to know, you know,
if I could get you alone on a weekend, you know,
and if we could. He was bold as he was shit.
He was bold as shit, which is why I say,
watch your.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Fucking band, motherfucker, goddamn job.

Speaker 9 (01:25:42):
Watch your fucking babies, bro, watch your fucking babies. And
he's just like, you know, you know, once you come
to my place, you know, we'll talk and everything like that.
I'm just like and I'm just like, how much are
you offering? He's like, give you fifteen hundred dollars for
an hour and I'm just like, I'm not gonna fuck you.
And I told him that, like Strandy, He's like, no, no, no,
I don't want He's like, I don't I don't want.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
I don't want to. I don't want to fuck you.
I want you to fuck me.

Speaker 9 (01:26:00):
And that right there ingrained in me from then on out.
I don't get fucked, I do the fucking. I don't
do any kind of finetraite of sex. That right there,
once I realized that that was something that I could
do in BDSM, that was it. I'm just like bend Over.
I don't believe in alpha males.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
I break them.

Speaker 9 (01:26:15):
I make them submissive Inbreadable, and my professor was one
of them. It's readable submissive Inbreadable, just like, oh, I
am just like I don't need you or anything like that.
I am like, I don't need you, need what do
you do for me?

Speaker 6 (01:26:28):
And anything like that.

Speaker 9 (01:26:28):
But it's just like but at the same exact time,
here's little Tommy's like, you know, uh, college fund and
I'll figure out, don't tell my wife or anything like that,
you know, walk me on a leash like you know,
in public and everything like that. And for my professor,
the wildest thing that he had ever said to me
to really kind of help me get into heads because
he wanted me to beat the shit.

Speaker 7 (01:26:43):
Out of me.

Speaker 9 (01:26:43):
He was not not just like bruising or see what.
He wanted me to beat the shit out of with
a flogger. A flogger like a just like not a
cat of nine tails like you'd see like a woman,
but an actual flogger. And this was my first time
actually using a toy, and he was just this is
how you have to do it, you know, this is
how you have to do it right, and everything like that.
You hit the spine and the crazy thing was, in hindsight,
it was both grooming, but it was also incredibly smart

(01:27:04):
mentorship because a lot of what you told me was accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
All right, guys, again, if you want to hear more
horrible decisions, make sure you join us on Patreon. That's
patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions. We hope that you
enjoyed twenty twenty five as much as we did. We
are sorry that we did not get to meet many
of you guys in person, but soon, come, soon, come,
my friend. Anyways, again, have a very lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Happy New Years.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
When we get back, y'all is gonna get some solo
episodes at the top of the year. You gonna hear
how we spend our holidays and New Years, and you know,
well recap it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
You know we're gonna have attle fun. By the way,
if you are on Patreon on and you have not
checked any of your notifications for our producer tier, we
have two in person events that we are holding for
our top tier Patriot again, if you have not checked
your email, make sure you do. Both will take place

(01:28:04):
in New.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
York on January fifth and January fourth, so we do
have a Sunday and a Monday event in person.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Hopefully we get to meet you all. And again, if
you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Join the producer tier, make sure you head on over
to patreon dot com Backslash Horrible Decisions again where you
get to see uh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
And there's very limited spots for the things that we're
doing on January fourth. Therefore, we're going in order of
who's been a producer tier in the longest, Just to
let you guys know you may be able to get
in there and get into one of these in person
events with Mandy and I because a lot of them,
the people that are in the producer tier, may not
be located in New York, so they would be willing
to forfeit theirs for you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
So just make sure you keep in touch with your
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letting you guys know when the slots open up.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Gloody guys, Bye, Happy New Year. Bitchest. The deal, the
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