Ep100: Spank Me! Please Me! feat King Noire

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and before we bring our hot, sexy, fucking guests in here,
I really want to say thank you. I'm really happy
that we did this episode. We're sitting in the same
place to therapy up. Yeah, I'm so happy. You know
that we've made a breakup and got back together, and
I'm just so happy that this podcast is where it is.

(02:09):
I'm so happy that you guys have joined us on
our journeys of hoism and everything the funk else over
the past almost two years. UM. Thank you guys for
sticking it out with us. Thank you guys for supporting us,
um not only with showing up to our live shows,
but tuning it every fucking week. UM, and again also
supporting us. For those of you who are pats when
we started this podcast, do you remember the episode I

(02:30):
don't live there anymore? But when I accidentally said where
I live and You're like, why would you do that? Why?
And You're like, nobody to listen to us? And I'm like,
bitch day And so it was. We've been on HBO,
my nigga, We've been on a vice Niggas know who
the funk is I'm saying. I just want to say
I was standing for life somebody that like I would live,
dye and breathe for if they were Every on this

(02:51):
podcast is Jesus. I never thought for a second I
could walk up to someone as a fan and they'd
be like, oh yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah. Well, in
in the last year, like um joining Loudspeaker, you know,
we're now a part of a family where some of
the top podcast lives. So that's been amazing. Who's been
someone you've met or like runn into that knew who

(03:11):
you were and you were like, oh ship, um, so
I've been known blue check marks I'm talking about so
um so you know what, Honestly, I will say, it
hasn't even been someone that I met like famous and
knew who I was, But just like the people around
me who are around bigger people, So like, I really

(03:33):
trying to give you. I'm really good friends with Wayne
Shout out Wayne. He has a podcast now with Kevin
hartt Spank like um and so I was just with
him this past weekend and he's like, he's like trying
to get us to get brands, like, you know, if
they passed on keV maybe, I'm like, if they passed
on Kevin Hart, you're thinking of me, He's like. And
his thing was, He's like, do you know comedians can't
even sell out places at house two people and you

(03:56):
guys are going on a tour doing that. I wanted
to charge eight dollars. You want to charge eight dollars
for our first And I'm like, no, bitch. They're the
thing called the profit margin where we have to make
and you know, I mean, I just how nobody would go,
you know, even just like you know, one of the
craziest things for me was, you know, I don't want
to say it, like we got New York on lock,
but we live here and most of our listeners are
here right according to analytics, Like we do this DC

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show and we're looking at venues and I'm like, what
do you think, Mandy, like two twenty and she's like, yeah,
that sounds good. We put these tickets up with no flyer.
We didn't drop the podcast a day and four days,
four days we sold out. That was amazing, bro. I've
seen artists that I listened to weekly that haven't had
two hundred twenty five people in the fucking venue. I
ain't even gonna hold y'all. If we ain't got the

(04:39):
l A venue yet, it's because we found this rank
of dank that seats one twenty and I'm like, bitch,
we could do more than one in l A. So
I'm looking for a bigger venue in l A if
we haven't dropped the venue yet, because I'm like, no, bro,
like we can do it. Let's do it. It's been exciting.
It's been excited. I thought i'ld go to Mexico and
niggas when that was the craziest thing of which I
went to Kansas City. I didn't even know it wasn't
in Kansas and bitch, people fucking new like hold decisions

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and internet. Here the hell is Kansas City? It's in Missouri. Oh,
I didn't even know. I said this is a three
which I'll tell you what I knew. He was late
when my mother, you know, you know, I'm gonna standing
ninety d fiance and I fucking wrote Ashley from ninety fiance, who'
the white girl the Fox? Did you make it? And
she was like, oh yeah, Like unfortunately, you know, we're

(05:26):
tied to contracts. We can't come on like totally no
follows our page. And I was just like, out of here.
TLC Bach, Gabby Satory Foll follows us. How you say
your last name? And I was like, precious, bitch, what's up? Bro?
I want her to colle that we might not be
our brand because we're sled. So here's what I want
to do. Just the top start this episode off. I
want to go back and forth with a hundred dirty words.

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Titty's asked comet were to try our hardest and let's
go boobs, slut fuck feminists, come, pussy ship a lint liquor.
I thought about the orbit condom, commercial condom, latex peggan core,

(06:09):
bitch and plug, Daniel beads, ship um cockering, uh ball, gag, ponytail,
which because when I sucked Dick, I put my hair
in a ponytail. Go ahead, okay, word association, choking, slapping, felching,
you're disgusting, eggs, asphyxiation, plan b dirty birth control, naughty

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damn bitch. Okay, anyways, y'all, y'all get the mother. Somebody
count them and tell us how much it was. But yeah,
we really hope that you guys enjoy our hundredth episode.
Yo yo yo, can you can you believe? We so?
So we made it two hundred episodes and this look

(06:57):
like a big deal. I think in podcast together, we've
all probably sucked a hundred people. Oh yeah, I actually
just started doing my numbers like yeap ye, Well, I
feel like you and I have probably sucked a hundred
between the two of us. Yeah, so we had an
a whole who do porn. What I'm probably tell you

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don't know. Oh well that's just the number of athletes. Anyways, guys,
welcome to the hundredth episode of Horrible Decisions. This is
your girl, Mandy Be and I'm wheezy. Hi. I love
you a hundred times over? How about that. No, I'm
super excited. I'm glad that we finally made it here.
It was only right to have one of the motherfucker's

(07:40):
that made the most sense to come on full episode.
Motherfucking one hundred is the most sense, bitch. But the episode,
like we've done MAD solo episode. I was in Japan
when you came on. I was tight. Yeah. So first
of all, listening to the episode and I'm like, because
I can't get internet, right, so I download the episode
on the plane sixteen fucking hours. I didn't know what
you look like, and I was like just pretending with myself,

(08:03):
like ugly. No. So, guys, um, if you haven't already
looked at the title, which you probably should have, we
have King noir Um who is in the building with
us today. And so he came on well maybe episode
twenty six, like he came on Mad long ago. Maybe
let's remember especially like we weren't even doing video then,

(08:24):
and you were like, oh, I have to get video
for him, and I'm like this, yeah, I know, I
got video specifically for him just to show the flogging.
I know, because I was like, oh, this gotta be
a video beach um. But so for the hundredth episode,
I guess, well, before we get started, um in our icebreaker,
can you go ahead and introduce yourself to our listeners
and new listeners who may not know who you are?

(08:44):
All right, what's going on? My name is King the
Wall of Royal Fetish Films, jet Setting, Jasmine llc Um
a master fetish trainer, Erodeck Touch Massure, and I do
porn and stuff and do you need come on? Drop
the wife? Yeah, I mean that's actually how we started.

(09:05):
We started with her company, jet Setting Jasmine. And are
you married? We are not married, but that's my partner
in all things. Yeah. I know that's right, because I'm
gonna tell you've had some episode we learned married don't
mean a fucking thing. Don't don't get started. I thought
she would be a shady, because you'd be shady. I
know you would know. I really enjoy watching like, um,

(09:27):
you know your your your pictures together. I really love it. Um.
For those of you who don't know, King Nora and
jet Setting Jasmine. Um, I've never had the pleasure of
me either of you. But you guys just had a
baby and like you're just so body positive and like
it just seems like you love her so much and
it's so great to watch a woman be so comfordent.
You guys are Polly, which is what we discussed the
Polly and Jazz now describes herself as a sexual opportunist.

(09:52):
That's the next titles. Like the word Polly, I don't like.
I don't like what polyamory kind of means because I'm
hear it's like from what my friends tell me and
Polly friends actually opening yourself for love with other people.
I don't like that and that I'm not really vible with.
Like now that I think about it, I don't like
the word Polly either, because everyone's my childhood. I'm thinking

(10:13):
of Polly Pocket. We probably shouldn't be thinking. I think
we're polyamory. Now it's kind of gotten a little bit
of a connotation like swinging hats, you know, like swinging swinging.
At a certain point, though people start to have like
this idea of what it is when actually it can
be whatever it means to you. Like whatever your relationship

(10:33):
is as a couple, and y'all are swingers might not
be the same as two other people who are also swingers.
They might be like, well, we do soft swap, same room.
Somebody else might be like, man, we go out on
full dates with somebody right another woman coming in my correct,
well swap I think is more like they don't do
full penetration or whatever. It might just be like kissing

(10:54):
and touching and things like that. I ever describe myself
more like like an ethical nomenogamous, like I you know,
I like being able to date to other people. But
I know if I'm as open to um full blown relationships,
which is what I believe Polly can be, am I correct, Okay, okay, yeah,
and I'm into just swinging. Like with my partner, I
don't want him dating anyone else. I don't want him
having feelings with anyone else. Don't even take the bitch

(11:16):
out to eat, like she can go just fucking leave
her Like that's that's the type of Glamazon Toyomi said.
Now you like something she said, if I'm just saying.
So she was saying or either her husband said on
the podcast like, you know, maybe she wants to go
see like a concert, and like, I'm not, no, I
told you he said that. That was Yeah, it was him.

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So I started the episode out talking about B two
K and you were like, I'm not really I didn't
even realize that it was him that said that. He
was like, listen, like, I don't really like B two K,
but I'm not going to keep you from enjoying that
moment with someone who may be able to enjoy interesting.
So what's up, Like, you're not going with jam what
if she want to go to and I'm sure there
a whole lot of people that will take it to

(12:00):
see where you live at so there's no Florida south
to Atlanta. So she's going with another neigh She's gonna
have a good time too, because you know, if she
told me, I'll be like, man, I want to see
this ship, you know when Ice Bucks, whether it's not
okay if you had because I'm sure I'm sure she
would let me let me roll to like, you know,
go see some some ship at the same the same age.

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That was what I'm into like like, I'm trying to
go see rain ghosts right now, and I'm not trying
to go see I don't even know that is because
you're looking. You're looking at y'all. That is that. Yeah,
I don't want to go. I don't want to go
and see them in like, wait, what are you going?
It was was meth Man and that, Yeah, but if
it's just okay, so I just want to go, and
she like, I'm just trying to go. I go and

(12:43):
look at methyd I'm only laughing. I think Jasmine would
go there with methy Man. Was that's all? I want
to only met this man there. If he's not there,
I don't want to go. I mean I would like
it would be something to look at. Hold on, you
skip the question, how are you? I just turned thirty eight?
I was about to say thirty seven, was like it
was literally just my birthday. Three days. It was baby

(13:06):
had a birthday, Good things happen in threes? Did you
have birthday sex? I did, but it was like the
whole week. I don't know if you say, like somebody
else now we we we actually just came back from
from a resort in Mexico that we might be doing
something that we might be doing some work for. We
was down at desire logging people and all this. I

(13:29):
was in Mexico for two weeks and someone was like, oh,
are you going to go to the resort because I
was telling them I had a sex podcast and I
was like which one? And they're like none of mine?
Like why is no one telling me? I had no idea?
So people go to the resort and are you just
like a part of that resort, and like, well, we
were Actually they're doing uh fetish trainings for couples, teaching

(13:50):
people about impact play. What else could we do? I
mean minded our own business for a little while, you know,
we had a We had a good time, man. I
mean it was beautiful out there, well speaking speaking of
like a resort and all of this fun stuff. Our
icebreaker real quick, I thought this would be cool um
for us to do. I wanted to do different names
for orgasms, so I thought of this in different ways

(14:14):
that you could say, come. So I wanted to maybe
go around the table and see if we can make
it around and how many times around we can go
before someone doesn't know a name for an orgasm? Have
you looked them up, No, bitch, I look, I swear
I look it up. I swear I look it up.
And the only upside down Now, The only reason why
I came up with this game, and I'll tell you
is because on this b Twok tour, Yin Yang Twins

(14:35):
are gonna be there. And one of these songs is
like all skeet ski and I'm like, why was I
saying that at Levin? Skeet ski is That's gonna be
my first word for come is skeets um. And then
we'll go around and see how many words for orgasm
we can come up with. So skei is the first one.

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He took. My z your turn, spunk, you gotta go,
I'm out, m splash, slash, ain't no, goddamn a chain
of my What? What other words is there for for
a coming orgasm? Are there any of that? We left squirting?

(15:18):
I was gonna say nuts. Oh nut, that's a nig
a word. I really missed that one. Huh No, you're
busting a nut? No, no, no, no busting. I'm busting.
I just bust. Yeah. I don't know. You just man
that she was out too quick. That's it. I've never
heard climax either. No, it was technically busting, like you

(15:41):
bust a pussy, So busting is not nutting fun y'all.
You busted open, bitch. You literally said when you were
sucking a dude, he was bust the nut. I'm about
to bust a nut whatever. Bro, people will ask you
be like yo, when he was did you bust? Yes?
You got me? Sure? Alright, Well, anyway we find a

(16:02):
go ahead because I don't like a hundred episodes later,
like what's something that we've like Louise still do because
your life is still getting with ship, but like I
am not ghetto. Okay, so we put a gout head,
get to the next why is that? That is that?
You know what I need? Her Rod? When you said,
what's that ship? The Black Panthers were a bode. This

(16:25):
is what we're doing. This is what we're doing. This
is what we're gonna do for a hundred episode You
can't say when white boys, what is it? One was
actually what I'm gonna say about when I knew you
were super white. You don't let me say on the
podcast that, bitch, that's how you know you're super Only
white people do that ship. So we're gonna go ahead.

(16:47):
I wanted to get into um our vanilla ship. So
for vanilla ship, it's where we come up or we
find an article that has to do with sex, dating relationships,
and this one was interesting. UM. This article is on
refinery and it says that I can orgasm without my
genitals being touched. Am I a freak? So it gets

(17:10):
into basically how she experienced having an orgasm from just
meeting a man and them kind of just touching like
hands wise, and she says that she was able to
experience an orgasm, and so she reached out to a
doctor and felt like that there was something wrong with
her because she busted a nut from just touching this man.
So it says that there have been studies this show

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that orgasm can be reached without necessarily directly stimulating the genitals,
says Jessica Shephard, M D. And O B. G. Y
N at the University of Illinois at Chicago, UM. This
is much more common. This is where I found it interesting.
She said, it's actually more common in women and not
often in men. It's more often for women to reach
orgasms without being touched in the telly genitally like genital

(17:58):
gen the genitalles, what are you doing the ninty day?
I'll tell no, so yeah and not. And actually I
thought that it would be more so common for men
because I feel like when they're younger, men just jizz
in their pants a lot. I think that's a thing
from movies that we all know. But I mean no,

(18:19):
or wait, we got a man across from us. Were
you just jizzing in your pants? Att like crazy? But
it definitely happened before. Yeah, but I mean there was stimulation,
you know, I was, I was what they call it
down self, I was hunting or something, you know. Oh yeah,
I've definitely had a few. I think I have one
a month where I'm come in my sleep. Women are

(18:43):
a lot more in tune with their bodies than men
are because most most men, it's not something that we're
that we're taught. It's not something that is ever presented
to us, you know, like from once a woman, once
you get your period, your mom or older woman is
going to have that talk with you about your body,
how to care for your body, how to attend to
your body in some shape form of fashion, even if

(19:04):
it's not sexual, even if it's just like this is
how you care for you are the boys are their penises?
You're saying men are only aware of their penis is
in a sense of kind of like you use that
to funk, which is education. We just are not really
talk to explore their bodies even sexually, like we're told,
like you know you're gonna jerk off, or maybe maybe

(19:26):
somebody says, hey, if you jerk off and you last
long when you jerk off, you better when you fuck.
You know what I'm saying, Like maybe maybe you get
that little talk if anything. But for the most part,
men aren't taught how to clean themselves. Men aren't taught
how Men aren't taught how to even how to even
connect the brain to their orgasm, which is why most
men have never experienced the full body orgasm. You think

(19:50):
women are maybe a little bit better with orgasm because
it's a lot harder for us to reach orgasms, so
depending on the woman, because to me, I think I
mean in general women as a whole, Like this is
just right from census that has been taken from certain sites,
like any findings I read, it's generally harder for women
to achieve orgasm, and I wonder if it's because the
women that are having them have had to learn how

(20:12):
to give themselves one. Um. It's it's weird though, because
are we really more into it with our body. It's
so weird because I feel like it's so backwards for me.
So when I and I preach that all women should
learn how to make themselves come, so I say that
every people. Yeah, of course, So I masturbate nightly. That's

(20:32):
how I go to sleep. And when I masturbate, I
come only through clatoral simulation. However, when it comes to
me dealing with men, me rubbing my clip does nothing.
I can only come through penetration, which often people say
that you're not supposed to be allowed to come through penetration.
It's all through clatoral. So it's weird. Like when I

(20:53):
come multiple times with his dick, there's no play with
my clip, but when I'm by mysel orgasm's gonna be
find out that. Yeah, I mean, I think that's talk
about basically like thing I've seen where time women have
clip stimulation, but so I wanted to have. I think physiologically, though,
there's the sense that as a woman, everything that you experience,

(21:16):
we're not everything, but a lot of what you experience
sexually is internal, so you have you have to experience
things that are going to go through your body, so
you have to be in tune, like am I even
willing to let this person be inside of me? Right?
And then also for for men, since it's external, we
never really get to put that one and two together,
like your brains, Like I get dudes who hit me

(21:38):
up NonStop in my d M, how do I last longer?
Or I have my first about with e D how
do I how do I work with that? So and
and both of those things really just have to do
with your mind, you know. I mean, obviously there's some
things that will just feel amazing, like God damn, but

(21:59):
usually that's like you let your mind go into that
so much that you are unable to connect yourself. Medicine
can help you, but like you do need to work
it is. I was thinking one thing when when you
were talking about it, um, when it comes to like
you know, the orgasm, like notatorially, it could be there's
like what five or seven thousand nerve endings in our
clip to the which is why I never wanted to

(22:20):
even pierce it, like meaning I would be so afraid
to pierce my clip for that reason, but I wanted
to talk so reading this article, um and something that
we even mentioned on yeah you mention, Um, you mentioned
it on our Sex Resolution episode that you wanted to
experience a tantric massage. And so is tantric massage? Is
that dealing with your genitals or is it just the

(22:41):
massage that makes you come? What is that? Some some does,
some doesn't mean It all depends on who's the practitioners
tantra tantric sex. I am not a tantric practitioner, so
somebody would probably give you a way better definition. But
I think I think it's really like from what I understand,
is people who are able to connect like the spiritual,

(23:01):
the mind and the body for a deeper sexual experience
than just like yeah, I'm trying to. And that's where
I heard that women have orgasms. Like watched a couple
like him given an orgasm just from like breath play
and like breathing and like she said it took a while,
but said she watched this girl called Hardest book. Well,
I know, I know personally, I've I've spoken to people

(23:22):
and they've told me that I should go like deeper
into it because I've had orgasms without busting the nut before.
You have had an orgasm without coming? Yeah, how how
does that work? Like? How do how does fluid? I
mean you feel it like I've I've felt orgasms that
have gone through my body, different things like that. And

(23:43):
it definitely has to do with things that I've When
I've spoken to people who actual tantric practitioners, they say,
it has to do with your breathing, has to do
with you know, your comfortability, your mind state, and all
of that. So why so why would you orgasm as
a man but not ejaculate because I want to keep coming? Okay,
have you ever had a dude like tell you they

(24:04):
felt like they came when they were sucking you, but
they didn't. I've had guys that thought they were going
to come, so they would pull out so that they
didn't come, and then they went back. But maybe twice
in my lifetime I've had someone say, fun like I
thought like I felt like I came. I thought I came.
I mean I did have a guy tell me that
I gave him the best sex ever out of all
the time. Flex. No, No, I didn't have someone that

(24:27):
I you didn't let me finish down. So we know
we have been fucking like for years and so on
one of the most recent times we had sex, he said,
oh my god, that was like probably our best time
having sex. I pinned it to my weight loss, but
he's like, no, like it just felt really good. And
I'm like, how he didn't come? He didn't come at all,

(24:51):
probably because I made him wear a condom the entire
time and I wasn't working with that bullshit at all
and so and normally, like, you know, all suck is it?
And I was just like not in the mood. But
he told me was the best session he had had
with me, and and I was confused because he literally
did not come. Have you sad something different from the
times that it's happened to you with the sex that
you were having, Like was there a lot of for play,

(25:12):
like with anything different that you think happen in those
moments that don't normally happen. I know the first time
that it ever happened to me, I was like just checking,
you know what I mean. I was like, because if
it feels almost the same, like the same way that
your muscles contract and different things like that, but just
I think time wise, it just has to do it
more like how how into what I am and just

(25:33):
how I feel and kind of like if I feel
like I'm about to come, I'm like I don't want
to right now, and just kind of like push through
it and then the body reacts how the body reacts,
and then it just keep you you kind of like
keep feeling it and it's like waves like things I've
heard from women talk about like or like multiple massage

(25:53):
almost anything like a linga massage is when a woman's massage.
Like in the linga massage, they say that men reach
it almost two or three times, like they keep peeking
and then finally they So this kind of like when
a man has sex and he comes, and then after
he comes, he's still hard because I've had that. Nah,
that just means you kind of skip to refractory period

(26:15):
like that can happen, but that that has nothing. That's
not the Yeah, it's different because if I mean that's
good too, it's great, but multiple orgasms. Men can't experience
multiple orgasms because of the refractory period, which basically means
you're dick can't get back up once it ejaculates. Right,

(26:38):
I want to get into but real quick just to
go back to what you were saying. Like for example,
like some of the massages that I have done for
like erotic touch, there are certain times like I had
one client, I was just kind of like massaging her
forearm and she was just like, I've never really been
touched there before in my life. So when you start
to in essential way, So I think when it comes

(27:01):
to massage in general, or tantric massage, erotic massage, sensual massage,
whatever whatever people are calling it, it's like if you've
never really had somebody pay attention to your body, if
you've never had somebody touch you in a certain kind
of way, and you are someone who is in especially
a woman who's in you know, in in communication with
her body and control of her body, could definitely orgasm.

(27:23):
Have you had one, man? All I know is every
time I go to a motherfucker massage place, even in Asia,
all the little Asians, I wouldn't even attracted to them,
but bitch, my pussy was wet as fun every time
they massage me. And it was just like a little
Asian woman. I don't I don't want to suck her,
but bitch, I kind of was hoping she fingered me,
but they never did. But I be getting horning. So
it just part of the massage I've ever had. It

(27:43):
just made me think of that thing. I don't even
know if I've about this before. It was my cabs
and I remember him telling me, like, nobody ever touched
me like that there freaking I'm like, why am I
getting excited? It's just my cab. No, I love like
the inside of my thighs ass and like his fingers
are kind of close to my post and I'm like
they're going in. They just close. That's it. It turns

(28:04):
me on just like that, Like that's all I need.
So I wanted to get to get into our kink
of the week, and our kink of the week is
going to focus on something that you are actually familiar with,
something that people may not even know exists. Um So
the kink of the week is fetish training. Um. I
kind of wanted to get into what fetish training is,
um and why people may come to you for it,

(28:27):
What is what it entails? Um? So, can you explain
to our listeners what fetish training is? Well, fetish training
is the act of engaging in your fetish. What is
I think actually it was the first time I ever
heard determined. It was like when Jazz was trying to say,
how do we describe what it is we do for people?
And a lot of people hire us because they don't

(28:50):
know they have a fetish, But every single person here
has a fetish, every person in the world, in the world, okay,
like even just y'all saying, like I got turned on
by a massile, is your massage? A fetish is basically
something that is not directly correlated to procreation that turns
you on sexual glasses. That's what Yeah, that's what I

(29:13):
was going for them. But the last episode Mandy and
I were doing um, she was saying, here's the difference
between a kink and a fetish, which I really think
is subjective, even though I mean she was reading textbook. Shit,
can you tell us what you think the difference between
a kink and a fetishes. Yes, a person can be kinky.
A person can't be a fetish. Like a lot of times,

(29:34):
a lot of times, like you'll see people like, oh,
you know, I have a fetish for this type of person,
uh b b W black man, Asian woman or something
like that. A human being can't be a fetish. A
human being is a human being. A person can be kinky,
like I'm kinkys fuck, you know what I'm saying. But like, uh,
it's kind of like a fetish is like what it is,

(29:56):
you know, kind of like more like a definition. However,
be down it. It's it basically said that a fetish
is the whole meal. A kink is the salt and pepper.
It's the seasoning too. You know what you do in
the bedroom. So what are some of the what are
some of I guess the fetishes or kinks that go
on during fetish training, like some of the main ones.

(30:17):
It ranges. I mean, people come to us because they're
like I want to expand my my my sexuality, or
I know what I like but I don't know how
to engage in it in a safe way, or I
don't know where to find people who like what I'm into.
So that's what we help. What's the kinkiest thing that
someone just wrote my phone? I was trying to be
quiet by the way listeners gave this advice. They were like, damn, wheezy,

(30:39):
can't shut the funk up? Type the questions on your phone?
What did I just type? She said, what are the kinkies?
What are the kinkids? I wanted to ask, what are
the kinkiest things you've heard? But what are also things
like that? Ain't ship that people think it's crazy? I
mean I don't. I don't ever. I don't ever like,
oh man, I love spit, but I don't. I don't.
Let's see, let's see. That's the thing that's what makes

(30:59):
everybody different in where it's hard for me to say, like,
that's some wild kinky ship or that's a boring kink,
you know, because what might be like for you, like, yo,
this is the edge for me, Like I'm trying it
all right here and putting it on on the table
for her, she might be like, that was fine for you.
I think. I think the one that I was first
kind of like, what, like, what is this is lunars?

(31:23):
People who are into into balloons? Oh wait what? I
don't know if well, a whole lot of year we
didn't cover that. I used to watch real sex when
I was a kid because that was the only thing
I could like hunch the bed too, And I always
thought a lunar, So what do they do with balloons?
Some people, some people like Um. Some people like to

(31:45):
watch people be afraid by a balloon popping, like that's
what turns the more. Other people like to watch a
woman just play with a balloon and not pop. It's
so the first time I ever, the first time someone
ever hit us up, like can you do a royal
Fittish lunar video? I was like, I was thinking the moon.
I was like, what are you talking about that? Right?

(32:10):
So like so then they were like, well, you know,
they send over this thing because we do you know,
we do custom custom films for people. They send over
this this long like script and then they send jasmine
like a box of different types of balloons. Like some
of these balloons, Yo, there's one joint. It's called a
hippie hot like that ship got fucking handles on it

(32:32):
and it's like the size of his chair. Okay, that's
like everything, Yeah, but a balloon being like, they didn't
send him Some of our some of our fetishes we
we get from our childhood. Some of them could just happen,
like on your on your training ride over here, something

(32:54):
could happen. He's just like, I wonder and you might
just delve deep into that. But some of the things like,
you know, some people who are a lunar, they might
have had an experience as a kid where it was
a party in a balloon pot and they saw the
girl they like jumped to it or something, you know
what I mean. Like, some fetishes are like so intricate
into our brains. That's why fetishes are just as as
infinite as the mind. I swear to God. Got a

(33:17):
story about ever realized why I like spitting my mouth
for me and this dude got an argument when I
was in high school and he spit on me, and
I liked, he spit on therapy? You do you absolutely
need therapy right there? I don't know somebody you enjoying
the spitting on you. Listen, we were fighting that nigga

(33:39):
would die. We were close, really face to face. We
were arguing about me and this other dude and he
spit on me, and I was like, you were we righting? Fun?
No way, brow Now it is hands bro, I'll fight
anybody who spit on me. Bro. Obviously in the bedroom
I might ask for it, but outside of the bedroom,
so we're not seeing. I never spoke again, right, but

(33:59):
I remember being so angry about it. But in that
moment he was so close to my face. I didn't
know if I liked it or not. Maybe that's why
I like spitting and ship. Maybe maybe you need therapy.
Oh thank you. It might be her glasses, but you
just psychoanalyze. So what what are If they contact you,
it can be individuals or it can be couples, and

(34:21):
so basically what you do is you kind of walk
them through how to communicate about these or do you
are you actually showing them what it looks like. We
also do events all over kinky pop up events, and
we help people basically if they're like, yo, this is
what I'm into. Say it's spanking or flogging or something
like that. You don't really just want to start hitting

(34:41):
on somebody without knowing what you're doing. We spoke about
that last time. So okay, So so you brought up flogging.
You have floggers with you, and we have a better
video now, so I'm glad that you brought them. If
you want to, I guess, show the camera what floggers are?
Can you explain um to our new list what flogging is?

(35:02):
So flogging is a former impact play? No, bro, that
ain't that's these are These are actually handmade their leather
and all that handmade. Wow. So like I have them,
but they don't like I'm I guess that's why I
don't hurt. This is like it's not these aren't gonna
really hurt you like that. These are more they're more

(35:24):
like a thud. So it's it's more like if you
get spanked, do we see can we see I gotta
warmer up? And all you got a warm up? Why
do you got a warmer up? So that's gonna feel
good for they don't have gloves on? That looks like
you got to go ride a bite. No, I use
I use these gloves actually, Like it's another another thing

(35:44):
for spanking, right, So like if someone spanks you and
they use just their fingers, there's more of a sting
to it. Someone spank you're using using the center of
their hand, there's more of a cup to it, back
out the bottom, more hit. Yeah, So if you're more
of a person who likes the thud, you would enjoy these.
So I know Mandy is trying to surprise me right
now with the whole flogging thing. Can I just like

(36:05):
learn how to spank? Can we like learn? Can you? Yeah,
you have to spank on Andy. Wait, many has a
good spanking, but I have less. I don't. I got
you turn it should be could When I came in
the studio, she was like, oh, yeah, you're gonna get
flogged today. And even though I'm totally into it, what
I really want to say is she's been you want
to hit me, you hit me? Everybody tells me, and

(36:25):
my ass is just so chigg Okay, let's just spigure out. Okay,
so wait, wait, waitle you talk about it first. So
the hand sorry by the way, Christomer running light, but
the hand right, these goddamn rings off because in the
bottom definitely got to take those rings. I'll take my
rings off. So Fellas, if you have rings on your hand,
because my daddy Jamaican, he used to wear goals are

(36:46):
all goddamn every finger. So if you're fucking you would
suggest to take jewelry off the hand for sure. Okay,
So slap with your right hand if you married, Fellas,
because that was so great. This is what I was
going to make a joke because it's our hundred episode
that like we didn't fight, I could to hit you
during Okay, so check it out. When when you're when
you're talking about impact play before we even get to

(37:08):
any of the spanking. When you get to impact play,
it's very important because you can hurt somebody, right, So
the reason I talk about warming somebody up with things
like floggers is you want to get all those important
all those important dopamine and all all the chemicals from
the brain that relaxes the body. You start really lightly kissing,
and yeah, I mean you could do that. You know,

(37:31):
we can keep each other h like for example, like
if I was flogging, I would start at your shoulders,
but we practicing, we were spanking and were flogging. I
want to I want to teach me. So okay, okay,
I'm so I would take my hand. I'm going to
use the bottom. Let's maybe see you do the good
speak first. You really okay? So hold on because I

(37:56):
want to make sure that you tell the listeners. So
what's the correct way to spank? So king I just
stood up. Man, he's sent over YouTube. So women, if
you're spanking your man, men, if you're spanking your women,
anybody has uh the same, the same vibe that you're
gonna get in here from the lady tank, Like we're
horny you know what I'm saying. No, it's it's all

(38:18):
in the podendal nerves. Podendal nerves. That's a big word
from school ship, you know, say what's the what is there?
As I reading ship, but I never read no, man,
take that's the other words. So that's where we all
have these nerves. And when you speak properly is gonna
send waves through those nerves. But you don't want to
just run up on somebody like a disrespectful dude at
the club and just smack the ship out of something. Yeah,

(38:40):
because then it hurt. That was a real hood rat smack.
Let's see the I'm a fetish trainer smack. But so
we start, oh oh my god. See so I want
to say, I'm watching him do it, and he's starting
like from the bottom of the child from what I
see that wave going, because yes, I feel the wave.

(39:02):
Like if we was we was really into it and
spank you, then already had me pounding on you and
pushing that nerve. Okay, so you'd already be warmed up.
But if you're not warmed up, that's why you work.
You work some people you can also work to Okay. Yeah,
the thigh is my spot. I'm not even a lie

(39:24):
to you. I cannot got just handle this shirt right now, bro,
like I can't. I'm getting nervous. Okay, me too, is it? Okay?
This is Benson. Get a climb up there and change
the a secause I'm sucked up right now. God, Okay,
let's switch seats. We know yours, so okay, let's just
I'll just stay here because we can rock like this

(39:44):
Jesus Christ. But like the same thing with flow. By
the way, our next guest is sitting here. I want
you to know this is not something normal. She's probably like,
what the fund I came there talking about my goddamn book,
not getting sucked in here come. But like so, like
for example, that you were working with flogging, you go
straight to to somebody with something like that. You start

(40:07):
with the you start up here because like I said,
that's what releases all those good vibes and from your brain.
You know that flight like I've seen well, I used
to have a dumb a few and they would always
like use the flogger like slightly on my face and
my chest, like they would kind of put it on
my body first. I would get to know how it
feels I've never had someone do, like the shoulder but
like my breast. Yeah, And like one thing I noticed

(40:29):
that I've never seen someone do, and I've seen your
videos is like you all do some kind of acrobatic
ship where you're like, fucking, what's that calls Florentine? What
is it? Florentine? The big words. It looks like it's
basically like a figure eight. It's two different ways to
do it that will make like let's say, if I
if I keep my elbows low or something like that,

(40:50):
it's going to hit you a certain way. If I
raise my elbows up, it's gonna hit you a different way.
So kind of like where I'm aiming. Yes, because I'm hot,
Thanks bro, I'm hot over here. The only time I
really got super turned on and wet and here was
when Nina K said, Oh my god, I love cream
pies all I love when they come in my pussy.
I was sitting here like professional and right now. Yeah,

(41:10):
And I never thought I would get this wet from
watching you. You know you want to watch me, Vin,
you want to watch me get it? Kind of it's
like heavier than any flogger I've ever felt. But he's
also much stronger than you. No, no, no, but I
mean just touching it. Oh yeah, they all have Like
I have something that are really light that will sting
more different kinds of like the throws I made with

(41:33):
something different. It all depends on kind of like what
you're going for and the's I like to use with
people who aren't particularly like, yo, beat the ship out
of me, you know what I mean? Like, these are
what you like to use with people that say, don't
beat the ship out of me when you feel it,
when you feel it. If I'm not like swinging for
the fences and nothing like that. If I'm if I'm
just using it to warm you up, those are very comfortable,

(41:54):
Like can I just feel like when you don't have
to warm me up? I just want to feel one good?
Like you just hit her one time one time? Can
you just I got a hole in my legs and
my house. Oh that's fine, that's right, So go over
and just flog her one time. Oh oh okay, wait too,
I go sit forward or backwards around just like that,

(42:15):
all right, y'all. So basically now she is bending over.
Keep you there, we go. Oh, spread your legs open
a little bit, hold on that explain a little bit. Yeah,
she was not here where I think I covered it
up for you. Okay, so look he's bending her over.

(42:36):
Oh so that little bit of nervousness that she had,
Uh huh yeah, oh he said, keep your heads straight.
I really like feeling it on my shoulder, like more
than I thought you like it on your shoulder? Yeah,

(42:57):
I really do. Like I didn't think i'd get excited
at it from my shoulders. And then when you moved
down and now he's hitting your ass, can you not move? Oh?
There you go? All right, I got to say servant,
somebody man, somebody daddy, and he's doing the figure eight

(43:19):
motion to now bro um. You know, I honestly I
forgot people were in the room. Really. Yeah, you're really
good at what you do. So everybody wants me to
stop white guys. There you go. So I love that

(43:41):
we got into this because this is what's going to
lead into decision you take so much, I guess focus
on pleasing women, touching them were they'll feel sensations that
maybe they haven't felt before. And so for the horrible
decision for this episode, because we do have a lot
of men listeners um. I wanted to get into a

(44:05):
conversation on how a man can get into pleasing a woman,
how they know they're pleasing their woman, and kind of
the things that maybe they should look to do in
order to make sure that their woman reaches orgasm because
of course, as we know, people fake orgasms, um, which
is an awful thing in en do not reward bad

(44:27):
But even if it was good sex and you just
can't get there, like, it's okay to say, like it
was a good funk, but I didn't come. I've told
guys that before and they've felt some type of way
about it. But I think it's important. I would say
it's been me being into in my head, are stressed
out or whatever, or like a new experience. Sometimes with
new people, I'm like a little you know, tense um,

(44:48):
not now for one person, and foremost, talk to the
men first. There's too much focus men. We focus too
much on busting or nut like well, first and foremost like,
if if that's your entire focus of why you're being
with somebody sexually, then you're already wrong. Oh I like

(45:10):
that because it's two people that are there right focus
on your nut when you're jerking off. Do you think
that this comes from porn? I've heard I want to
go see a woman John Dereka Llust and she was like, listen,
all the porn we watch growing up is showing men
coming and then it's finished, and we're all waiting for
that climax, and we're always learning that thing of like, oh,
if women don't come, it's your fault, and if men

(45:32):
don't come, it's also your fault. Like, yeah, I think
I think porn has something to do with it, for sure,
But I think that this is a mentality that dates
way back before porn even exists, well at least porn
as we know it. You know, I think that we
live in a society that doesn't really value women at all.
So sea, men, are you getting them sessions? Book? Now? Boys,

(45:52):
men are only concerned not only with their orgasm, but
with their point, with their voice, with their thoughts. You know,
women are overlooked with pretty much things. So when it
comes down to this most carnal of things, at this
moment of pleasure, a man is the only thing about.
Why do you think that is this something that innately
like do you think it? Did you have sisters? Like,
what was it about you, then make sure why do

(46:14):
you think you're so focused on it or what upbringing
that did you have it affected how you view women
or treat women during sex or anything like that. What
do you think it's been different about your life? I mean,
I was raised by a group of great women who
did everything. You know what I'm saying, Like, um, not
to say that there were no good men in my life,

(46:35):
but I was raised by my mother, my grandmother, my
great grandmother. But did they have that conversation with you?
Not really, I mean it was just more like my
perception of women isn't that women are less than me.
I think that I think that that's kind of like
what most men have is no matter what, like even
some men who were raised by great women still have

(46:56):
a perception that women are are to be valued less
in whatever kind of aspect it is. So sex is
only another aspect of life. So I mean, I wouldn't
say that I had that conversation specifically, but I definitely
learned to value all human beings. But also like I
think that women should be put on a pedestal. I

(47:18):
think that if especially when it comes to pleasure, and
this even if even if you have a selfish motive.
At the end of the day, your sex is going
to be better if you please the woman you're with. Like,
even if you're just a selfish asshole and you can't
look past the selfishness of it, your sex will still
be better. Focus on what are some of the focuses
or what are some of the things that you think

(47:39):
a man can do If he's been one of those
that just suns to get his nut and now he's
maybe maturing and wants to please the women that he's fucking,
what would be some of the first steps that you
would give that man to make sure that he's going
into it to please the woman. Ask her what she likes.
It's so crazy. I just had a tweet and this
actually applies to women as well. I just had a

(48:01):
tweet by by one of our listeners and she said, Hey,
my boyfriend, every time he goes down on me puts
fingers in my vagina and I really don't like it.
How do I tell him in a nice way? I
don't like. I saw you retweet a reply from someone
that I didn't like either. She was like, why are
people not why are people doing this? Like kind of
I think We've got to give women a little bit

(48:23):
of a break because we're always so focused on men
and kind of trained that way. I mean, even my
mother saying, got to make sure you do this for him,
and got to make sure you do this this for
your man. We think we can't say when we don't
like something, right. I mean, this is goes back to
hate to bring it up, but very much that azizonsary
moment with people blaming that girl for not knowing when

(48:44):
to say no. A lot of women don't know when
to say no. And even though that is a different situation,
there's so many times in my life, you know, Leaven
a little bit older, even twenty five, I'll say where
I've been sucked away him and like I don't really
like this, but like I'll just let it be finished
for him. I think. I think there's also kind of
like this romantic romantic idea that the person that is

(49:08):
the perfect sexual partner for you is going to know
everything you like, right. And I think that if you
think about yourself, to make that point, if you think,
if you think about yourself today and you think about
yourself five years ago, chances are most things are gonna
have changed, even if slightly, not just sexually, but just
in your entire life. So it's kind of like you
might you might also like certain things with one person

(49:30):
and not with somebody else, Like you might be like, yo,
I love the way you flogged, but this other time
I got flogged, I did not like it because they
did A B and C. So that could happen the
same thing, like men assume that because they listened to
the show that I'm just like such a submissive, Like
I don't want you to smack me in the face.
I like this from certain people i'm with. I don't

(49:51):
want it from everybody. I think, you know what I'm saying, Like,
it's I think um a lot of a lot of
times too. People will say something like, yeah, I'm into kink,
or I'm into b DSM, or I'm a sub. But
that doesn't mean you're a sub to everybody, just like
people think that because I'm a dumb I just walk
around telling people what to do all day, and that's
that's not how life works, you know. So it's kind

(50:14):
of like what I like to do sexually doesn't mean
that I'm an asshole of people in everyday life. We
say that about the podcast. Just because we talk about
sex openly doesn't mean we want to have sex with you.
And a lot of people automatically assume that because we
are sex positive and open freely, that now anyone can
send us dick pics an just like people especially think
even more than porn stars strippers get because like it's

(50:38):
really I can't even imagine someone like giving you money
in that moment, watching you dance and thinking they can
violate you. Bro, I'd be going off on everybody. Yeah, yeah,
I definitely. It's it's interesting because of my profession. You know,
I definitely can. I mean I don't. I can't say
I can walk into woman's shoes, you know what I'm saying. Like,
I know, y'all deal with it. I'll never have to understand.

(50:59):
But oh, like from my home girls, Actually it was
Taomi who said it's like optical rape. You know, I
get dudes who send me dick picks all the time,
Like I want to be important, bro or whatever? What
do you think it's like? Or just men who are
interested in me, you know, just send me dick picks

(51:20):
all day. And I'm like, and I get women who
send me pussy picks. I get all day and it's like,
I love pussy, but that doesn't mean I want you
to send me yours, you know, And I'm pretty and
I'm pretty, and so I think about the sisters I
know who get dick picks. They might have never even
talked about sex to a dude. And he's like, just

(51:40):
some guy I met. I gave him my number, he
said hi, and send a dick pick. You know what
I'm saying, Like that ship is crazy. And it still
goes back to that thing that we were just talking
about about men who do not care about women and
what they think or how they feel. So all of that,
it's a societal thing and it's gonna be reflecting how
people have sex. Have you ever, I'm curious to know,

(52:02):
Like I want to tell you this, but I I
didn't think I would tell you, but now I want to.
So when I first had you, I mean when I'm sorry,
when we first had you on horrible decisions, right, I
wasn't there A dude I know was like, oh yeah, yeah,
so his fasture ain't ending gay. I was like, why
would you think that? And he was like I don't know,
Like I saw like what he does. Have you ever

(52:24):
noticed that men that are more in tune with their
sex or like men that do fetish, Like people always
assume male sex workers are gay, and like, how does
that play into your role? Because I think I think
it happens for sure. For one, I've had people say,
DoD you gay because I think our Kelly is a
piece of ship. Yeah, I mean no, I'm definite. Like

(52:49):
arguments that I've had with people online or in person
where it's like insside with a woman and they'd be like,
you must be gay or you just do that to
get pussy, you know what I mean, Like it's one
or the other. And I'm like, those are two really
different things, but you're calling me both right now, you
know what I mean. Like, I think that there's this
whole perception that if a man has respect for women,

(53:10):
or if a man is in tune with his body
or whatever, that he's gay. First, I don't take it
as an insult. I know a lot of great people.
I don't think that gay as an insult. But my
sexuality is, um, it's women, you know what I'm saying.
But I think that it's just kind of like people
might use that as an insult. I really like the
way you said that. Did y'all see the video of
the dude that was like, listen, God could deal with

(53:30):
you the way he wants, but no, shame to the gays,
but don't send me dick picks. I was like, that
sounds like shame. Yeah, God can deal with you. Did
you see that? No? I didn't. It was like circling
around I don't know if it was a male model
or a porn star was going around Twitter, and I
was like, why did they have to say it's so angry?
Like okay, like you're that fucking fine that everybody wants

(53:51):
to fuck you. That's it. The interesting thing is, though,
when when I've told women like, yo, chill, don't don't
send me that unless I asked for it. You gay women, No,
women are actually way more like that. I think they
come back into themselves and be like, oh ship, yeah,
that was kind of a really but why why do

(54:11):
you think women then say if you don't like something
or you don't want to suck them, then you're gay?
Like why do you think we throw that out? Is
that our own insecurity? I think that that's just like
one of those insults that they know will resonate with
most people. You know. I think that that's like that,
and your mom is a bit that pretty much set
off everybody, you know. So it's kind of like those
are the go to John's right there. Yeah. So I

(54:32):
wanted to to circle back into a man pleasing his woman,
UM And I kind of wanted to get this into
maybe one of the kinks that we've discussed on the
show previously, um, which would be cuc holding. UM. So
I wanted to bring this up because in that fashion
or when I watch it, it makes me feel like
a man is choosing cup holding as a means to

(54:55):
please a woman because he can't please his woman. UM.
So I kind of wanted to get into maybe the
site key if a man is with his woman and
chooses maybe to bring another party into the bedroom, what
that means the psyche of it. And you've done cut holding,
So I want to know kind of your psyche as
the person who's being the giver, and that that's actually

(55:15):
like one of the things that first UM introduced me
into into B D s M and that whole lifestyle
cuc holding was before. Yeah, because I actually I started,
like when I first did porn. Some people started reaching
out like, hey, would you fuck my wife? You know,
that's actually kind of like how I got into That's
how I learned um about domination and submissions. Like cuc

(55:39):
holding is way a little bit above like just dressing
up and spitting, and those to me are like baby steps.
So cut holding being your baby step into beding. Remember
resturin guy wanted like the cuc holding ship to happen
all the time. That's kind of crazy and I was
super into it until he was like, oh, it can
only be a black guy. And then I was like
I'm done, and do you get that too? Like being

(56:00):
definitely get that um. And of course our listeners are
gonna be like, he's racially ambiguous. I don't know why
you'll want to call it like they do not want
to give us the black title for ship, but tell
that ship to the police and you know, there you go.
Now when the coucolding does happen, right, the couples hit
you up so like this is something that they want.
I mean, I actually get um single males to who

(56:23):
want to be cuckolded, and I'll just sit there and
watch me and Jasmine work, or me and another performer
as well's I think a lot of it has to
do with what you say. Like some people who feel inadequate, um,
some people who feel like they can never please a
woman in in the same way. But for some people,

(56:43):
it's like the ultimate submission, like there's someone who's so
dominant over them that they dominate their household, or there's
someone that's so dominant over them that it's like for
for some they want to be what's considered like cissified
or forced to be by That's another where like I

(57:10):
got it, like they like you forced them to like
suck your dick or something like that. Are you comfortable
with that doesn't make you I have not had a
cluck suck my dick before, but I definitely make them
eat my comb from shut up, dude, you know what
I did? I am booking my session. Where do you
normally come that they lick off up? Like? Well, it

(57:30):
depends like in um there was if you if you
go to Royal Fetish x x X dot com, I'm
joining Like I shot a scene with slave Fluffy and
Ivory Brooks. I came like all over her stomach and chest.
I don't know what I was eating that week, but

(57:52):
I feel like that, did you? Did you? Maybe not
like he couldn't finish as much as I could, wait,
but you wanted it like it was kind of his
task to lick it all up. That was his duty. Yo.
Shot you see me here on the internet. Look, don't
be trying to look it up. Yeah, bet you gotta
pay for his ship. Ain't even freeing on the business account.

(58:14):
Okay you hear me. Decisions LLC. We're gonna share this
password that this that this, So it's this scene. She's
really fucking cute. Yea. So like there was another scene
I shot with Jasmine for another company and Jazz is
my partner, so I can't evenside of her and the
cop ate it out. You made him eat the creams
my favorite party. She'd be eating like by eating cream pot.

(58:38):
I look all that ship up. I mean look, did
I say? Look you nasty? Um? Yeah, I'm so like, hey,
I can't film it, but if you can block the
tattoos out, I'm in um look look, but I mean
it's funny because like for me, that being like one

(58:58):
of my first like super extreme the first the first
experience I've ever had. It was it was hit in
New York it was in Long Island this couple day
was like nice Long Island, travel out there from Jerors
or whatever. You know. Were you in the house. Yeah,
they had this table and all that ship, and I

(59:19):
destroyed her on the pool table and made him sit
in the corner and jerk office his ship with two fingers.
Not one of those those are like that was your
first experience? That my first Were you excited about it?
Were you nervous? It was? It was one of those experiences.
Was like she was hot. I was like I was

(59:40):
all for it, you know, and you know I left
with some bread too, so that was great. But I mean,
you know, they filmed it and all this other stuff
like it was. It was. It was crazy. I was
going to ask you if they filmed it, because like
whenever I'm important hub looking at like amateur, sometimes I
wonder like yo, I feel like they found this dude

(01:00:01):
on tender and they were like yo can and like
they had and then I feel like the phone is
always in a position like the other person doesn't know,
and I'm like, I'm gonna come watching this, but it's
also sucked up. Yeah, I definitely knew about it ahead
of time, so that was cool. It was it was
they reached out through a company that I worked for.

(01:00:22):
So so as a man who comes in and does
the performing while the other man watches, what kind of
goes through your mind? Or if a man is interested
in maybe doing that, is there any type of preparation
mentally that you have to do. I don't know. Everybody
is different. I mean me, I'm a complete exhibitionist. Like
when people watch me too, like like when people ask

(01:00:44):
like what what what makes you different? Like I look
at porn and all that. I think of it as
like being a sexual athlete, you know, like you gotta
show up, you gotta perform. You we are so grateful
that you're not accountant, because what a waste of skill,
you know what. Sometimes I stuck tick and I'd be
like I should totally feel that, Like that's what makes
me have so many videos. Someone just told me I

(01:01:05):
was born to be a porn star, and I kind
of take that. It's like, wait, I could do more
than I gave a laby a massage so good the
other day and I was like, I can teach the class,
like you know, and I think in the day and
age that we live a porn star doesn't limit you
to just one thing. I think slowly. I mean, there's
still a whole lot of you know, bad connotation with

(01:01:25):
it and all that. But we've seen certain people who
have come into the business from all kinds of walks
of life. You see some people who take this business
and go to other walks of life that back in
the day they were like, now you can't do that.
So you know, I think that that for me, Like
from the first time I was on your show, there
were people who are like, wow, I didn't know you
were articulate, Like they automatically think that. Jau. Then you

(01:01:50):
came straight out of jail. You couldn't get a knowledge
you could guess jail because you'd be like, damn, he
must have read a lot. I could be all sick
and go to jail. I think, you know, I think
the way the world works. I think the way the
world works. I think it's very important for me to
just break as many boxes as possible. Absolutely, I think

(01:02:11):
I think like the work that we do, for example,
with with our class point in parenting. You know, we're
not telling people that, you know, you could go out
there and be porn stars, but we're saying you could
be a point star on your own bedroom, you know,
but as a but as a parent, you know, there's
certain responsibility that you have, you know what I'm saying.
And then also at the same time, how can you
be a sex positive parent so that your children will
not be shamed or won't shame themselves, but can still

(01:02:34):
live a safe And now I want you, Jasmine and
the baby in here next time. But I'm not even
a lie like that. I want her best feed. I
want to make it a whole mom. That's like a
thing with me, Like when I go, like if I'm
sucking a guy and he has a kid in the house,
I feel like I can't even moan. And I'm a moner.
I love being loud, but it's nothing. I don't want
the child to hear me moaning. And that's so that's
kind of what. Yeah, that's when, that's when you could

(01:02:58):
get the pillow. You know. I want to tell you
thing you just said checking off the boxes. I think
the most impressive and interesting thing about you that I
found from just being a listener in that episode was
that you were a dom that carred so much about
pleasuring women like you could almost tell it wasn't phony.
You know that it's a very genuine thing about you,

(01:03:18):
Even me saying I want to spank Mandy, you making
sure that I did it a certain way. Having a
dom that loves to give pleasure is a great thing.
Like I've had doms that, you know, spank me, make
me suck not that don't like, make me suck a dick,
and it's just like, and I'm going crazy because I'm
ready to come. And even though that's part of it
sometimes like I don't know if they necessarily care or

(01:03:40):
if it's just part of the play, but I think
you seem to make it very clear that that is
a priority, and that's what makes it so fun. I
think that it should because there's a lot of men
who are so dominant in the bedroom where like, you know,
where they like a woman to gag because they you know,
it's a dumb thing to do and all that stuff.
And there are some men where I think I've draw
on the line where I don't feel like they cared

(01:04:02):
whether I was being pleased or not and how they
were treating me, from the slaps to the choking to
all of that. There's even ways to choke where which
sometimes it hurts, but there's very ways. There's ways to
also choke someone where it does it feels good, it
turns you want Wheezy wants to almost die and no,
she I'll be honest with you, I don't like to
have sex with people like that. I have no experience
has no experience with it yet, know I mean, you can,

(01:04:23):
you can definitely hurt somebody. And I think that there
are people who get into b D s M because
they want to hurt people and they think that it
might be a way that they can hurt people in
a way that's like oh no, no, no no, no, Like
you know what I'm saying. I'm a dom and that
one was so interesting about even though people think it's
a very vanilla movie in fifty Shades of Gray, when
he beat her a little too hard because he had

(01:04:45):
that in him, Like, I feel so bad to know
there are doms like that. We've had Kiki on here
um a sub who was talking about almost like some
violence ship where I was like, like, but when it
comes to I think it's important Like for me, I
think one of the things I love about domming is
it forces me to I have to pay such attention

(01:05:07):
to myself, especially in a session because you're breathing, you
know how your body responds, like if you're bruising or
anything like that, especially if you're like, yeah, I want
to like push it. I want to I won't go crazy,
so like if we're pushing your limits. But that's also
different for everybody. And I'm not attentive enough to your
body to know, like you know, because some subs will

(01:05:27):
be like, I don't want to disappoint my dom, so
I'm not gonna say my safety word, but they might
go past the point where they should have said it
already if you're not paying enough attention to that person
to know, like you should cheer for a minute. Let's
yellow without for a bit, Let's let's relax. That's it
ready yellow now. I do want to ask if you
could just tell us about a time where, like you,
you know, you do erotic massage and stuff like that.

(01:05:47):
Have you ever had a time where you did erotic
massage and started having sex with that? But like y'all
were just it was getting crazy, and like, do you
have someone in mind or a person or a moment
you're thinking about? Watch that on Royal Fetish County. You
got to take right. She got to charge it to
the business account. I'm gonna be like, no, but you
make enought, you gotta take that. I'll be honest with

(01:06:10):
you next time you're in New York. I'm really um considering.
So I've been digging this girl, call her Scissors, and
we've dated years ago, and I've been talking about bringing
a guy in the room with us, and you know,
having an experience, not knowing what it will be, and
I think sometimes she worries about male energy and maybe
like how I'll feel about that person, And I think
that I would love to, if you're down, have a

(01:06:32):
session of all three of us and maybe document it
like together, sure, all of who you and the other
girl on him. Yeah, don't be trying to put that
on a business count neither, hope research. I want to
go ahead before we get out of here, I want
to get into our homemaale real quick. As you guys know,
you can submit homemail at Horrible Decisions at gmail dot com.

(01:06:56):
This one was actually sent into my d M, and
normally I don't read y'all motherfucking dia. I hate homel
and dias, but this one was good and I don't
know if she wanted me to personally help, because you
know herd my issues in life. But I was like,
we have an open man on the show, so let's see, um,
you know, if maybe you can help us. So it
says good morning, girly. UM, I have a big question.

(01:07:17):
I honestly don't know how to even handle this. I've
been in a serious relationship with my boyfriend for over
a year and we lived together. I recently found out
that before me, he lived with a transsexual woman for
two years, and supposedly he didn't know she still had
a penis. He even put a restraining order out on her.
At the end, I'm thinking he only did this to

(01:07:39):
cover his own ass with his family. I've called him
talking to other transsexuals and he just says they're friends.
Am I wrong to hate him for not telling me
the truth? I can't even sleep at night with him
knowing that he likes men like He won't kiss me
or go down on me, but he'll be quick to
suck a dick. He drinks a lot, and I think
it's something that he's been trying to find himself. I

(01:08:00):
hate her already, what I like, I see why ending
of it. When I read the ending of it, I
was like, Okay, so first off, you have a whole
issue with identify. You're the reason that motherfuckers have to
write restraining orders, and frankly, I'm almost embarrassed that you're
a fucking listener of this show. I hope to god
you get offended at what I'm saying. You're a piece
of ship. You're exactly why we have fucking issues with

(01:08:23):
Is she black? She she looks Latina. Fine, she probably
likes to fun niggas and she's sucking them up. This
is such a toxic way of thinking, Like I don't
know who raised you with this fucking bullshit, but let's
stop calling them transsexuals one that's like, really fucking if
they also identify and carry themselves as women. We are

(01:08:43):
too IDENTI to suck a dick. Maybe you just don't
want to fuck you. Maybe it's not enough with you.
Maybe that's the fucking problem. Maybe you could d M
me and we could talk about it more on I Live.
Because I'm gonna tell you right now the problem with
men not being comfortable with enjoying other people. I'm not
even gonna a men or women or whoever other people
is because of the fear of them looking like whatever

(01:09:04):
you're thinking of him. It doesn't make him less of
a man. It doesn't make him less of a person
to fucking make a restraining order on somebody over some
bullshit like that. I really hope he lied to you,
because you're such a judgmental cunt. And I rarely use
that word, so I don't care. So when I got
to the ending of that, I was I felt a
a little hurt. Um. But also again, I have a

(01:09:28):
friend who is also going through this um to where
it's led him down alcoholism, therapy, depression because he isn't
two trends women, and he's he knows that his family
may not be accepting of it because he grew up
in the church, so hiding that piece of himself from
his mom. He even told me like, yo, I brought
a white girl home to my mom one time. Could

(01:09:49):
you imagine if I brought you know, x y Z.
And even just that thought process is just it's unfortunate
that and we've Wheezy and I have both said it
before that unfortunately as women, um are just as much
the root of the cause to men not being able
to open up sexually, whether it's their kinks that they
want in the bedroom, um, like pegging or other things

(01:10:09):
that I've mentioned on the show, UM, or whether it
isn't experimenting or finding out what they genuinely like in
the bedroom in fear of what the women they date,
or the women they speak with or their women family
members will think of them. UM. So I like that
you went as hard as you did. Normally i'd be like,
I bet she's one of those that loves gaze and

(01:10:30):
like I love got yeah, ask mean, okay, same ship, right,
and then you're shady. So I guess realize you have
to cull a lot of ship out of your life.
If you have that much of a problem with trans women,
a lot of ship out of your life. Gotta go, bitch,
all the fucking TV shows you watch, all the make up,
all of it, bitch, just stop, cancel it, Join City Girls,

(01:10:51):
what yo? Shut the far? I'm sorry, Like she had,
I was just like for someone who I was listened
to our show for you to still be so close minded,
it kind of like, bitch, have you not been listening
to what the funk we've been saying on this goddamn
show I was about to like real something back, but
I don't care. Yeah, So what would be I guess

(01:11:12):
your response to that, or how do you think maybe
she should approaches you being a man? What would be
the right way for her to have this conversation with
her man? I think first and foremost, I just want
to say that whatever you're into and whoever you're into,
as long as you leave children, animals and people who
say no out of it, you're good. Is that description?

(01:11:34):
I don't know what right. I don't know think that
there is, though, there's this perception of what manhood is,
and unfortunately, the perception of manhood is pretty fucked up,
Like it's pretty toxic, as you've stated, you know, I
think that men posture a lot because they don't know

(01:11:56):
how and especially unfortunately, I mean in our community, we're
we're always told that our lives don't matter, whether it's man, woman,
or trans like, we're all told our lives don't matter.
But there's this perception in Western society that the man
is supposed to be the top in the head of everything.
So in the black and brown community, a lot of
black and brown men are like, why I gotta be

(01:12:17):
the head in the top. So then it leads to
men bullying transpho at least to men bullying women. And
then like there was this post. I forget who posted it,
but it was so real that it was like black
men have become the white men of our own community
because because everybody else and I think that now, you know,

(01:12:38):
you see women who perceive, um, a man is less
than a man because he was, you know, and you
you actually said you just want to go see a streak.
So James Baldwin is one of my greatest heroes of ever,
you know, I mean, like, I think that man was
a man, and he stood up for his people, and
he stood up for everything the way a human being

(01:12:59):
should stand up. You know what I'm saying. His gender
was just a part of his story, you know what
I'm saying, just like his blackness is a part of
his story. And a lot of times we get so
caught up in all these little things that we try
to nitpick, to break people apart and break people. And
that's what she's doing because she's not happy. And maybe
y'all just don't fucking fit together. It might not be

(01:13:19):
because of who he likes. It might not be you
know what I mean, But I think it's just kind
of like if you're trying to find all these things
about him, Like if you love somebody, you love them
for who they are. If you like them, you like
them for who they are. If you don't like them,
then you don't like them at all these other things,
you know what I'm saying, Like you're trying to make
it about other stuff to justify how you feel about

(01:13:42):
him instead of just being like, you know, maybe we
ain't meant to be together. We really can't forget that
people are humans though, Like just I mean, you said
you thought she was Latina. Like I can't sit here
and like be a Black Lives Matter bit and not
think about latinas or be a feminist and not thinking
about every woman like I can't. I have to remember
everybody's sucking human, you know. And sometimes I even get
little brainwashed in my own Euroses where I'm like, I

(01:14:05):
like all the white people and we're like something most
of them are just a lot of white people are
not trash, They're just that, you know. And it's like
I have to really break that shift down and just
practice what I preach, but also from what she's trying
to do is label him into putting it like something
is wrong with him for liking trans women um or
being into sucking dick or whatever. You know. I think

(01:14:27):
that as humans to sit here and classify or degrade
someone based on their sexual preferences, whether you know, our
next guys talking about sluts or us liking host shit,
or if a man likes to engage in other things
that may not be of the norm. It doesn't make
anyone less Dan, and you shouldn't sit here and feel
the need to make him feel less than because those
maybe his choices behind closed doors. So I like that

(01:14:50):
we got on that bitch, you will piece of trash,
but were gonna hope that you work through this, and
after we sat here and talk, we hope that you
see your I can't wait to read her reply. She's
gonna be like, UM, can I just say it's someone
I thinks they should be accepting. Y'all don't want to
make it a teaching moment. No, bitch, we did it.
It's too late. It's two thousand nineteen. I ain't got
time to teach all. Well, we wait, let before we

(01:15:12):
go just kind of like tell people like um exactly
what they can look forward to in a session with you,
because I know that you're in a where to find you,
but you can definitely explore your kink. I don't ever
like there's no that's our k phrase. I'm just sorry,
there's no there's no two sessions that are ever the same.
It's like I always tell people, if you make love

(01:15:32):
the same way twice, you're doing it wrong. What I'm saying,
it's the same. It's the same thing every girl that
listens to the show. I mean, it's it's and and
I'm not saying like, yo, now you gotta go funk
on a plane, you know what I mean. But I
mean you can do that. But I mean, if all
you got is your bedroom, just try a different position,

(01:15:54):
try with the lights on, you know what I mean.
It's it's just little things to change it up that
will make you learn something new about your partner and
learn something new about yourself. And all the fetish training sessions,
that's what it's really about. It's about learning about yourself
and opening yourself up to different forms of pleasure, different
forms of of kink, and open it up. Do you like?

(01:16:16):
So if someone you know messages you like they can
maybe like do you do a little emailing before hand
consultation coll because we have we have we have like
a survey that goes over something like two or three
hundred different fetishes and it might not be a fetish
that you would yourself want to experience, but you saying like, like,
let's just say there's a line of things and it's
like gag, ball, spit and handcuffs. Do you have yours? Know?

(01:16:42):
Or maybe right? And to me, that just lets me
know a little bit about who you are and what
you are either a open to, because I don't always
say like Okay, I'm gonna come in there and then
we're gonna do five minutes of flogging and you know
what I mean, it's not how it works. Asking about
the booty hole, I was like, can I lick it?
Can I figure it? Can I pay it? Yes? No? Maybe?

(01:17:03):
And that's pretty much how I gauge what I can
and cannot do to the booty can't it? Pretty much?
But they're like if they're like, yeah, you could do
all three, you're not just gonna jump them, Tom gotta start.
You got a woman with it. So it's like the
same kind of thing within if you're I'm an artist,
so you're gonna You're just gonna tell me what types
of paint I'm gonna use, and then we're gonna paint

(01:17:25):
from there. I like that if I could a text
message like that and then take the draw. But can
you go ahead and let our listeners know where they
can find you and book you can? You can definitely
hit me up in my d ms on Twitter, Instagram.
Sound right said it? I mean, I got I got

(01:17:48):
emails to and step you know. Okay, We'll go ahead
and drop the outside a Kingdom wall k I N
G N O I R E and you can go
to Kingdom war x x X dot com, Royal Fetish
x x x dot com and you could see all
of my films and get some ideas for your sessions.
I'm gonna show easy the ones you don't send me.
And by the way, paying for porn it's a big

(01:18:08):
came here the trailer when they come out, he'd be
sending me the Can I be in the email? Yeah?
I had you because he's sending me All of them
did look beautiful. So y'all think I'm playing. Anybody listening
thinks I'm playing about like doing this session altogether. Like,
I think it only makes sense. You say, love what
you want to invite the whole got them fifty lists. No,
I don't want to invite them in the bedroom, Like

(01:18:30):
I don't want to film it, but I would love
to just make it something where like we can all
talk about how it was together, you know, like if
I was nervous or like, you know what I mean that,
I just want to watch exhibition. No, the voyer vary,
I'm gonna be the voyer. No, you couldn't say GENITALI anyway,
got it for that one, you know. Anyways, guys, um,

(01:18:53):
we're looking forward to seeing you guys on tour. Thank
you to everyone who came out to motherfucking d C. No,
we did two shows. It was little what I've um,
but I'm excited to stay here and see everyone in Atlanta,
see everyone in Houston. We got Toronto, see everyone in
New York City March ninth, and then you can go
see b TUKH and then um we still are waiting

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by noways out by now. Um. If you want a
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I know, I feel like I gotta go white my pussy. Anyways, guys,
this has been yet another episode of Horrible Decisions y

(01:20:00):
In my mind, I sometimes can't watch the same scenes
over and over. But that's also my problem with probably
why I haven't been able to mutually masturbate. Because if
I'm if I'm watching a porn and I'm allowing you
to play with me while I watch a porn, you
have to be comfortable. There's gonna be two guys, fucking
and that one I haven't kind of gotten into yet.
Literally like literally I'm and even the guys or Tranport,

(01:20:25):
so literally even the guys that have allowed me to pay,
they don't like the idea that I like too many
men because they like to make it be known that
they don't like man. So like they're just not into
gay porn. I even be trying to send them links,
but they're like, man, what you sent me there for? It? Like,
but they'll watch t trndport, So would you just say,
MANDI trand port they'll watch trend porn. I thought you

(01:20:47):
said train and then be d D and g trany.
I thought that, Like I was trying to first off
it why I know, but the work we got it
recorded I in sight, So that second um mutual masturbation
for me. Um the girl needy on the phone stip

(01:21:09):
that she on like she gotta be upside down and
ship because then they got to see and blah blah blah.
But here's how I've done it right, which I really
enjoyed one I recently I think was it a year ago? Yeah, yeah,
it wasn't this year. Last year I was home for Thanksgiving,
went home with this guy. He didn't have a condom,
and I was like, you should remember this, and so
I did it that way, and like we just were

(01:21:30):
side by side and like he and I were like
making out and touching each other. It was good. I've
also like almost done a quote unquote scissors position, like
I've kind of like almost stood on top or like
was on top of a dude like masturbating. It's like
my titties was in his face. It was really good.
And then one that I really love, my best musical masturbation,

(01:21:51):
where we were like really far apart. I was at
lover Boy's crib and he was on the computer doing
some kind of online gambling ship I don't know whatever
European ship. He had this couch in front and I
sat on it while he was on there because he
wouldn't pay attention to me, and I started masturbating and
then he came over to my pussy and I told
him now and he was like what. I was like,

(01:22:13):
I'm just gonna come like this because you're just so
fucking busy, see, and I so, I guess I've done
it out of I've done it out of revenge. Then
like I remember, um, someone when I brought him up
on the show before. But I ain't gonna down talking
right now. But there's been times where we've had sex
and it wasn't good. I didn't come and he wasn't
trying to get back up. So I've literally just to

(01:22:35):
let him know how much he did not please me.
I've turned on porn right next to him, loud so
that he couldn't watch TV and played pussy and when
he said, like, what are you doing, I'm gonna come
since you didn't make me, And I've literally sat in
the bed, girl, I ain't gonna say his name really. Yeah,
And we argued so much every night. Yeah, So I've

(01:22:57):
done that with him and I didn't and I did
it with an got piste on well now because I
know I was just really doing it to sun up
his ego. I really couldn't get in the mood to come,
but I was just doing it to make it show like, nigga,
please myself because you were nigga and you ain't make
me come. What did he do? Is he just sitting there? Oh? No?
You know we had a whole lass argument about it
while he was doing it again, you know, like I
was doing and then like of course I turned up.

(01:23:19):
He was mad that my porn was on because he
was trying to watch a game or something, and I
was like, so you ain't made me come go to
the living room. Then I'm sitting right here and I'm
gonna make myself come since you didn't. So it's really
more so like fuck you.

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