Selective Ignorance: Ep. 39 | Thanksgiving: Pumpkin Pie, $5 Indians and Football

In this Thanksgiving-themed episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B is joined by super producer A-King and journalist Jayson Rodriguez for an insightful, humorous, and culturally rich exploration of the holiday’s deeper meaning, pop culture impact, and evolving traditions. Kicking things off with context and vibes [00:00], they set the tone by unpacking what Thanksgiving represents today—beyond turkey, football, and family photos—for Black and Brown communities, touching on gratitude, identity, and the social expectations that come with the holiday.

The trio dives into the lesser-discussed origins of Thanksgiving [05:07], challenging myths from grade school narratives and exploring how history, colonialism, and Native American contributions are often overlooked in mainstream storytelling. This leads naturally into a lively breakdown of culinary traditions and family dynamics [09:51], from whose mac and cheese passes the test to the politics of potlucks, kitchen hierarchies, and the emotional weight food carries across generations.

By [15:05], the conversation shifts toward Thanksgiving and capitalism, unpacking how the holiday transformed into a marketing engine—from over-the-top grocery ads to seasonal branding and the economics behind the holiday dinner table. That sets up a global lens on Thanksgiving [19:56], examining how other countries interpret or remix the holiday—through diaspora traditions, Caribbean influence, and cultural adaptation.

As football enters the chat [25:02], Mandii, A-King, and Jayson explore the historical connection between the NFL and Thanksgiving, including how football became almost as essential to the holiday as stuffing and sweet potato pie. From there, they seamlessly pivot into the commercial aftermath—the birth of Black Friday [33:42], tracing its evolution from chaotic, door-busting retail mania to today’s online-driven, algorithm-powered consumer culture.

Conversation returns to food and nostalgia [39:20], where they compare Thanksgiving food preferences, from classic vs. experimental menus, and why certain dishes are sacred: no raisins in the potato salad, no shortcuts on sweet potato pie, and why fried turkey is a forever MVP. Things take a hilarious and philosophical turn at [48:43], when the group explores the ethics and absurdity of cloning pets—sparked by real-life celebrity stories and the rising cost of “designer grief.”

Finally, the episode closes on a reflective note [56:43], as they discuss gratitude, community, chosen family, and how Thanksgiving has evolved into a celebration far beyond its historical roots—emphasizing connection, culture, and conscious living in today’s world. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
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(00:23):
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a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, written by
yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcasts, Weezy.
Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
a production of The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

(00:44):
What's up, y'all, Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance
with Get Girl Mandy B. This is your favorite podcast
where we confidently don't know what the hell we're talking about,
but we make this out a cute anyway. Listen, this
is the Thanksgiving Day episode, which means a couple of things.
We're full or delusional and we might be real ignorant
with this one, especially if you're watching it on video.

(01:07):
Let's keep it a buck. Do you even know the
actual history of Thanksgiving? Like beyond the turkey, beyond the
Pilgrims with the friendship and sitting with the Indians that
apparently we can't call Indians because they're Native Americans. We're
gonna get into that and what we really know right now,
Thanksgiving is about giving thanks, eating turkey, fighting over the

(01:29):
last panamac and cheese, and then of course, the very
next day we're out shopping because for whatever reason, every
year we all believe we need a new flat screen TV.
Speaking of gratitude. During this time, we also spend time
with our family, but do we give thanks for our
family health boundaries we may have or may have not created,

(01:49):
because right now, in this economy, what are we really
thankful for? A damn way. Also, it's a Thanksgiving Day episode.
This is not a sports podcast, but we cannot do
it without talking football touchdown. Welcome to Selective Ignorance Thanksgiving

(02:13):
Day Episode. I am here with my super producers. I
don't know if I feel okay.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Now here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Here's the thing. A king.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Do you feel super We have humiliation.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
We have Jason the bass Turkey. I'm I'm not sure
if he got.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Stuffed yet, but that's between me and my wife.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
What kind of season is we have a king, the
colonizing pilgrim.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
You're a champion. You're champion, like I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Not gonna whoa? And then and then hold on, did
I do it?

Speaker 5 (03:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
You gotta do it Florida.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
First off, always is.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
If I do like this, I can cover my face fully.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's just we're done. This is it.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I am Pocahontas, a k A an Indian, a k
A non Indian because it's a Native American. And I'm
just gonna say I'm from the Cherokee tribe because that's
a vehicle that I know of. Or I could be
a seminol or Florida. There we go, look at me.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Take them out.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
They don't want you to do that.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
They don't want them to have no land. I mean,
Florida about to go in the water any goddamn way,
which it needs to go and be its own island.
We gotta get it out. This guy for saken country, y'all.
I I did not want to make this any sort
of humiliation ritual. That's not even my kink. Don't know
if you know that or not. I'm not really into that.

(03:55):
When we decided to do a Thanksgiving the episode though,
because I'm nuts, I'm on a preper that call with Jason,
and immediately I have this idea to put us in costumes,
because what more is ignorance than dressing up as this
the idea of what this holiday is, or at least
what they teach us in schools right, which is crazy

(04:17):
because and I do want to get into it just
a little bit in terms of once we go over
the history, I feel like we've gotten so far away
from this. I don't do they still teach the Pilgrim,
an Indian like story in school.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
My daughter hasn't learned it.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Why are you what they're gonna teach after twenty twenty six, Like.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
It's just about giving thanks and food and family like
like to me, this.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
New administration, Oh Trump come here, storytelling?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
No no, no, no, Trump is gonna say his family found
this land and.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Back up big time, bigly.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I don't know. I just I mean, clearly, I don't
have kids.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You have kids, and my kids school they teach it's
just like harvest and festival.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I think I think about they have.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
No we know what I'm saying. I'm talking about the
new kids. I don't know. If you're in a part
of the Patreon community, hit me up on the discord
because y'all is Mama's and daddy's over there. Can you
let me know what they're teaching your kids about the
history of Thanksgiving? Like what are they being taught? Because yeah,
clearly for us, it was this nice soul. They came

(05:28):
over on this boat called the Mayflower and they landed,
they like hit the land and was like, oh, ship,
we hit land. Oh. And then they made it seem
like we saw these really kind, well dressed, dark skinned
people with feathers and was like, yo, we got we
got this type of food. I let you y'all know

(05:49):
what this food is. And then the Indians was like, man,
but over here we got this type of food. Let's
you know, friends giving this ship and become one. And
then next thing, you know, gentrification. We they gentified the
out of the land and somehow they brought all their
little diseases because we know white people don't watch their legs,
and so they brought whatever they had with them and

(06:10):
it started killing out all the Native American Native America.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
But here's the thing is hard and I'm looking at you,
so it's hard.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
To say.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
But maybe the disease wasn't just you know, viral diseases.
Maybe it was also paperwork. Maybe it was also reclassification.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Paperwork what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
But they reclassified them.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
So and that's why you got the so called five
dollar Indians, the ones who's those the ones who paid
five dollars to claim that they had nationhood within those
look this up journalism.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
The Europeans that that came over had to.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
That's why you see some ones that don't look like
the pheno type of those people that originated from that land.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
So they it's a thing. It is a thing.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
It's a thing. For sure.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
They didn't teach me about no fight dollar Indians.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
So I got here. It's a derogatory term. Dave Americans enrolled,
not for the name, not for the true ones.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was the ones who wanted to get up. But
then it says they paid to be.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
On.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
White individuals bribe government officials for as little as five
dollars to facilitate fraudulent enrolment so.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
They could be a seminole, they could be all, they
could be whatever.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
It was often an opportunistic scheme to gain access to
land for government.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I didn't make this up.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
They paid to be like Rachel do. But back in
the day, Yeah, they paid five dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Since she got only fans. But that's the whole other.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Not gonna hold you crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Crazy because I didn't because I got a pretty round brown.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
The reason, the reason why that's the only only fans
that ever subscribed to.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
The only subscribe you was just to say that when
I browsed and I came across only when I made
a transaction.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
It was four dollars you paid. I canceled it right
away because after thirty days you know to do it again.
I did it.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Because I said, well, what's the angle? She was in
double CP. She can't go full blown nude. It was
well what I saw, wasn't it was she the most
she had the most was like bathing suit, but it
was clean.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
It wasn't. It wasn't. I don't know what she's doing now.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
She might, but when it when it first came out,
like oh ship word, and I said, all.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Right, I'm not gonna lie, but I'm not doing I
would never.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm I don't know what to think about. I didn't
know that's how you were spending your your heart.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Four dollars, four dollars four respect.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
That is insane. But yeah, okay, so white people were
paying to be I don't think white people ever paid
to be slaves. So that's crazy that they were paying
to be seminals, especially.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Because get the land. They went the land.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, and the slaves didn't have ship, they didn't want that.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Okay, classified them and there's a whole thing, and it
was like we were the ones and then that was
it done?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Can you part of it?

Speaker 4 (09:14):
How much?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay? So the mayflower came over and what nineteen eighteen.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Sixty, sixteen, sixteen, twenty.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Sixteen twenty. Is there a way that we could see
how much five dollars was in sixteen twenty? I feel like,
are you just asking my husband?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
My mother?

Speaker 5 (09:29):
My mother said in the sixties movies was twenty five cents,
So just imagine.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Only because I want to know how much it really costs,
like what what that value was to pretty much become something.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Wo one hundred and thirty seven dollars and eighty one cents.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
How much was the acre of Like what was the
value of an acre of land back then?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Gold? A coin? A gold coin.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Like two hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Damn. Yeah, I don't know how you buy a to
me this this holiday overall, and it's just interesting. And
I know if if even my dog Antonette shout out
around the way curls, it's one of those that was
this really created in some scheme of capitalism. So of course,

(10:18):
I mean, we know, like everyone goes out and buys food,
and then the idea that okay, everyone's about to be
with their family, they about to eat, and then the
day right after we're gonna make sales happen so that
everyone spends their money. Find you the month right before Christmas,
then two months after Halloween, which we know Halloween sales
go up with costumes and going out and candy. Like

(10:41):
this is really one of those where it's like, hey,
we got to get these people spend their hard earned.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Dollars and genuinely won't be crying.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Like but to the point where when you go to
the supermarket, things are gone.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Like.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Apparently people don't eat Call of Greens really throughout the
year until fucking when I said, do you know that's
always the and that's the that's the meal that I
cook right in the bag. Oh the coy greens in
the bag. Oh that's already cut up. That's the cheat code.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I ain't gonna hold you that.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Sometimes hold on.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Sometimes do that.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
First off, I wash it with water and vinegar, sink.
I don't just be putting it in the sink, insta.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, first off, to be fair, you could people.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Clean if you do that.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't try.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I spend Thanksgiving in Dallas and Deandro. Mama, don't play that.
Everything get washed.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Everything is your thing that you cook.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So greens is my thing that I cook every year.
I can't cook for those of y'all who might best question,
Yes I could cook, I throw down. So I just
added a dish like that. Now everyone's asking for so
last year, like for the last five years, I make
the collar greens. And it's crazy because anyone who doesn't

(12:03):
live in the South anywhere else I'm used to now
making two batches of greens because not everyone likes fucking pork.
But bitch, I don't. To me, I need to be
able to put my goddamn bacon grease in the shit,
like I need to be able to put bacon, so
I make two different batches. But last year it's all
this little recipe on the TikTok. I'm gonna put y'all on.

(12:24):
If you're a patron, I'm gonna send it to you,
like this corn pudding that like so if you've ever
been to stk Nah, that shit fy. So it's pretty
much like a it's like a cream corn that's also
like with corn bread, so like it's like a creamy
corn bread baby. And I put that little hot honey

(12:45):
on it, because you put hot honey on anything, and
it's fucking good. And so now I made it. Last year,
no one knew what the fuck it was. They tore
that shit up. So when I just was at Snow's
one one year old birthday party, it was like, you're
making that cornish again. So now I'm possible for two dishes.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
And here's the thing, because they're not at the same time,
you know they're not.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
But what I realized is maybe I'm a part of
one of those people losing the recipes, and maybe because
I don't have kids, I'm like, whoa, I realized I
just like to eat. Having to be in the kitchen.
It was cute one year, but now I feel like
a job. And so shout out to all the mamas
and some of you daddies because y'all say, y'all stay
out of it because y'all watching football. But shout out

(13:27):
to like the fact that you commit yourself to two
days of cooking because you start cooking the dyke before
it is. It isn't imagine like when you're bringing in
this much, you know you're bringing friends and family. Maybe
it's a job. So all y'all they got a real job,
and y'all excited about Thanksgiving because you get off no bitch,

(13:49):
you work, and still you just in the kitchen.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
And I want to say the corn thing. You're leaning
into your native here we go. Cultivated corn, They cultivated? Yes,
I don't think that's a word.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yes, and looked up.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Wait, cultivated is a word, but I don't think cultivated cord.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Look look mice and that was their thing, so to
look it up.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
He's kicking out cash app anybody who tells I'm wrong
dollars right now.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I just think you're so excited to go back to
your geography.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
But I think that.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Books to say maids. Nobody call that ship maize no
more nigga. We actually call it alte. It is either
a low ta is the Mexican How you know how
Mexico is right there? How you know that Mexicans?

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Like there was like, but it's that they're taking a corner,
They're adding their flavor.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
To know, people are listening to this like you ignorant
such much?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I guarantee they won't you.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Ignorant sons of guns? Was there anything about the history
that we want to touch on her? Where we want
to get We want to hit hit up this as
America the history.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Let's just do it.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I mean we talked a little bit about traditions, but
I do want to get into it.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It was I thought the interesting thing was, like, do
you do I remember it? Because you're talking about school
and and stuff and taught like the I came across
this articles and said everything you learned about Thanksgiving is wrong,
and a lot of it. They blamed textbooks and like
the cartoons. Do you all remember a mouse on the mayflower?
Did y'all see that in school?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
So mouse on the flay f was like, you know
this mouse who kind of came over and you've seen
from like the mouse's perspective of how like Thanksgiving came along.
But they pointed out that one as like one of
the worst offends. Wait why of telling the story because
it was like a popular cartoon, you know me, and
like the point of view of the mouse that they saw,
like that was not how it wasn't like the friendly
like how you describe it, like are y'all hungry?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Y'all want to eat? And we came together.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
They showed the real ship.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
No, they showed the fake. The cartoons showed the fake
soone amplified the fake story.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But I think that's the thing. And I see on
here too, you have Charlie Brown Garfield. They glorified again,
and I think that that's why for me, will y'all
hear me sound ignorance, hell, I'd be like, I don't
believe it sides history is you know, it's it's how
they tell us like right, but there's a there's an
element of a history or repeats itself. Right, But to

(16:12):
know that we have a president now going into the
Smithsonian removing things and stuff like that, Yeah, they're like
I can't be here in this lifetime, yeah, and not
question every single thing that sped to me, because when
we get older, I'm now thirty five, bitch y'all wasted
my time in school teaching me this.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Books, what the ills things too.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I found this one piece when I was like digging
deep about like turkey, because I think you were asking
me about turkey at all.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Like even why do we eat that bird with that?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
There's like I found this one place where like they
trace like oral history records, and there was like no
record of turkey, Like Turkey wasn't even a part of it.
That's like such an add on after with somebody like
it could probably be from like big food industry was like,
oh turkey, let's just do turkey. Like there's no significant
like historical reference to turkey being served by Pilgrims and Indians,
Like that's just some after that.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
But that's one of those things like Okay, are turkeys real?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Like no, no, no, I.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Know, I'm I feel I feel offended.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I'm representing all turkeys matter.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I mean it's hybrid fruit.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know what's crazy in the most in the most
problematic way. I didn't want to put you as a pig.
But you should be bad need.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's that's big thanksgiving me for me is what you
have giving bad ethnic holdies A one one nigga wi.
My wife is not really like practicing Muslim, so she's
not like a super enhanced family and stuff. No, her
family is the same way.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Oh, you don't americanize your Persian.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I did not americanize them. That's that's that's how it was.
When I got it off the lot, it was like
it was custom. It was custom that way already.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
But no pick up.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Hear me out, like you know how like love bugs
are created, you know, broccoli eight real cauliflower like they're
talking about with this, there's a lot of ship that
we have created. And so if you're saying that there's
no record of turkey even being.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Served, where did you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Like, where did the turkey come from? Because also here's
the other thing, think about it, outside of soul food
with the smother turkey wings, which was turkey really ate
like that? Especially not the whole turkey. The whole turkey
is not something that you consume any other.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Time of the street.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
The only time they with turkey is on a Hero
on the sandwich and then it's like.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
But it you know what I mean, it's my family,
Like we asked my mom not to make it. Every
year she still makes the turkey the street team calling.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
For turkey deep frying.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's a one I had that one year.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
I would recommend what No, But that's the thing now
is by the way, my husband, I don't like this
because I think I asked him questions and when I said,
my husband is chatchy, I asked, it's turkey real?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
And he laughed at me.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
There's a whole laughing about Well.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I said, turkey is very real, both of them, Turkey
the bird and Turkey the country. Okay, maybe he didn't
get my question, or maybe that's.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think your husband on a spectrum.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yo yo, Wait, I don't want to hear me your
husband too, not like.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
That though, No, but yeah, I think I think for me,
it's one of those interesting things capitalism wise, or like
how they made the center of the table a turkey.
I think it's really interesting. Like we we like chicken,
niggas love salmon. Why wasn't it a big old fish?
You know what I mean? Because God and if if
we lean into the Christianity of it all. Fish is

(19:41):
supposed to be the thing that everyone can eat and
everyone can have it. Clearly, you could just go out
to the ocean and catch that thing, because y'all came
here about the ocean, you know what I mean? Yeah? Interesting, interesting,
interesting interesting interesting. Okay, So again, and this is America,
we have to talk about it. This is not a
sports podcast, but y'all gonna hear more sports in the
next year because it's been trying to get a prize

(20:02):
picks bag. Okay, so we go see here and figure
out how to add sports into this. But for what
the holiday has been about? If we talk about America specifically,
which wait, this is the only place Thanksgiving? Like like
London don't do Thanksgiving? So is this like the only

(20:22):
London might because Pilgrims are are from celebrating they found
out they have a different celebrated. Hey, we found America
no more the Brits America.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
But they like having the rule over us Buckingham Palace
doing on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, hold on, if I don't want.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
To smoke with nobody over there too. By the way,
I'm just asking questions.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
By the way, if this, if if this nigga laugh
at me one more time.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
They do not.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Wait, they don't because it's not a British holiday. But
but look, but the closest tradition is the harvest festival,
which that's what thanks even originally was harvest festival. It
was usually we collected all of our food before the winter.
We got a lot of we got a lot. Let's
just have a big meal before we put it all
away for the winter.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
By the way, I don't know what upgrade this is,
this nigga, this nigga getting funny with me now, I said,
Is America the only place to celebrate Thanksgiving? Nope, America
is not special on this one, and then put like
the sweat emoji like bitch, what are you Askking be
Ho it says the US is the most loud about Thanksgiving,

(21:30):
but other places have Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving style holidays too,
so Canada also does call it Thanksgiving. They celebrated on
the second Monday in October and it's more for harvest
and thankfulness as well. Liberia founded by formally enslaved people
from the US. They made their own Thanksgiving on the
first Thursday in November with their own food and church traditions.

(21:51):
Oh that's sope. I didn't know that Liberiaberia. Liberia was
founded by formally enslaved people from the US.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, liberious history is dope.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Holy, we need to go to Liberia because wait, our
slaves winning made their own country and started creating their
own shit. Oh no, Liberians may be them, No, no, no,
no they. I was completely unaware of that. Look at
me teaching y'all. Shit. Say, Lucia celebrates Thanksgiving. Grenada has
a Thanksgiving Day on October twenty fifth, but it's about

(22:22):
the nineteen eighty three US led invasion, not pilgrims and turkeys.
Germany also does have something in early October Arnton dek
Fest where they celebrate church. They have churches, parades, harvest baskets,
all of that, and last but not least, Brazild de
Gracas on the fourth They actually celebrated on the fourth

(22:46):
Thursday November, like inspired by our holiday, mostly in certain
Christian communities. So what's crazy is even seeing Germany includes
the church Brazil does it somehow leads back to these
whites and Christianity like very interesting, very interesting, because they
may be the biggest liars of all time. It's like

(23:09):
they controlled the narrative.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Wow, which means that we don't know what the fuck's
we just gotta spend this money on all of it.
They do this ship for every who was the mastermind
that said I'm going to take an atrocity and We're
gonna capitalize it.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Which are you talking about? Go to Valentine Day? Say
Valentine was a massacre. Apparently they was like killing mad
mad bitches. No, no, no, maybe on Valentine's Day episode?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
What was the love about?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
What?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
You know? But we'll get to that.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
But maybe they love killing, But but what was it?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
What was the the wow moment?

Speaker 5 (23:49):
They said, you know, we know what we can all
flourish and do it this way to get money and
spend money and keep this ecosystem.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
It was a two hundred year distance between the Mayflower
and what people think of Thanksgiving the sixty and then
it became an official holiday in eighteen sixties.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
It took them twohundred years to come up with that story.
During the time today was killing off all the Native Americans.
They had to make sure they was. They had to
make sure that they were The population was so small
that they could control the narrative essentially on that, and
that might be even what we're seeing now with Ice
and wanting to remove the certain immigrants and culture from

(24:24):
they want. And it's funny because it's what we're seeing
now in terms of things going viral, right, I've seen
so many videos where people are upset that people are
speaking Spanish in this country. And it was they were
like American is the number one language or something like that.
Like there was a clip that went viral with a

(24:45):
woman being completely upset that someone was speaking another language.
And so if we look at what ICE is doing,
mind you, let's be very clear. We ain't seen not
one Italian, one German, one Irish get sent out by Ice.
We're only seeing.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Italian Italians can't by the way, they don't get no
family over there. Yes, I told you about the white
American Italian. Is it possible they're a sadist white?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
You know what's crazy. I used to be mad. My
mama wasn't a little bit Italian. I said, who I
want to be?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I thought you was Italian and Jamaican.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
With your white you know, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
So my mom bot we bring up family gratitude, right,
So my mama my mama finally found out, well I
think she already knew, but my mama found out that
my grandmama was a hole. So my mama just found
out that her daddy was not her daddy. And she
found out because somebody hit her up on the Instagram
on the Facebook and was like you my sister, cause

(25:42):
a she's been dealing with a lot, right, So in
order to find out if this woman is really her sister,
she got her DNA test done. And I say all
of this to say not to bring up the trauma
that my family going through, but my mama is hilarious
because she hit me and said how upset she was
at her finding. She was like, can you believe there's

(26:04):
not a drop of black in me? Because Mama, Mamama
could cook some greens. Mind you, you don't know my
mama white, but she from Florida, missus Tammy got three
black girls, like you know she I don't know any
time in my life that she's ever even dated to white, right.
She was so distraught that there was no lineage, there's
nothing else to Africa in her blood. She's like, bitch,

(26:25):
I'm real white and mostly German actually, which does that
make us Jewish.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
No, no, that's right. You know, it's like there's Jewish
and non Jewish and non Jewish.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, but she's mostly German. And she was like she
was really sad that there wasn't not a trace, not
even South africause you know South Africa, the White, the.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Dutch, Like if you if you're from the South, she's
from California, from anywhere, if you're from anywhere south of.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Is from San Diego.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
If she's white from San Diego.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Are you from anywhere south of Delaware? You shouldn't know
how to cook collar greens well?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
And then my daddy to her, my mama makes some
of the best oxtail, Okay, as a white woman, don't
do this.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Don't know, I'm not I see your face behind that
felt complimentary.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, I was like, oh shit, mom my.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Mama could throw it down. Can she cooked collar greens magazine,
baked Maga cheese. So my mom was one of them
that like even after like she was the only white
around all the time. So even because I didn't grow
up with my the white side of my family, I
grew up around my Jamaica's side of my family. So
all the cookouts, all the birthday parties was all my
black cousins, my black like the white family just got

(27:41):
introduced and now I'm finding out that they're talking and
hose and my mom, my grandmama was just going after
the niggas with money. So like I was out here
lying about.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know this shit crazy, but your mom went straight
super saying though she went Jamaican, you.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Know it's crazy. And then my sister, so I have
so know me and one of my studying no, no
hold on. And then guess where she went right after
that to a zoo. My young is Haitian. And well,
this is what happens when you are raised in Orlando, Florida,
that there's there's not really African Americans, like all the

(28:19):
black people mostly are Caribbean American. Like like when when
I used to grow like being in middle school and stuff,
and we used to have the pep rallies, Oh nigga,
everybody brought their flags and then like during basketball tournaments
and things like that, when parents came, oh baby, oh
you heard was creole? Like you realize like the people
I went to school with mostly were actually first generation

(28:40):
like Caribbean Americans. And so yeah, growing up in Florida, Like, yeah,
I really understand African Americans until I moved to Atlanta.
It was it's different. And I went to high school
briefly here, night and day, night and day, just night
and day. Anyways, let's get into some futball, because that's

(29:02):
what y'all like.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Really don't do that.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
The people abroad, they don't like the proximity of football
and football football.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Oh did I say very?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I don't know, but you look hard at a king
like like like like you're worthless on the couch, motherfucker
watching football.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
That's what they look like.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
The people in the UK and all that ship ball
to their heart, like this is not American.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
You saw some money coming in the UK? You really,
you really like, let's not offend that.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
You don't want no smoke.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
People are still powerful with Buckingham Palace. Can't just run
up there and say, hey, whatever, is there any.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
History around the connection between Thanksgiving and football and why
it's so big? And also why the fuck it's always
the Cowboys?

Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's a good one.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Actually, looked up did you know what a cowboys and cowboys?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
In?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Did you know.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Cowboy the Cowboys is copying? But did you did you know,
did you know the football history?

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Why something didn't? I had no idea. I had no
idea to look.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yo, this is why we have journalism, Jason.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's notundying gruesome. It's some money, shit money. The Detroit
Lions are always on in the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
So Detroit Lions used to be in Plymouth, Ohio, right,
and so rock in nineteen thirty four they moved to Detroit,
and so as a way to boost their popularity.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Once they went to Detroit and.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
They did Thanksgiving games, and so that was it. It
was just some like marketing ship and the two I
think it was two years later. No matter of fact,
it wasn't even two years. It was like ten or
fifteen years later. The Cowboys copied because they saw it
was doing well for them. And then at that point
it kind of locked into Lions Cowboys like almost and
then like in the past ten years, they do like
a third game now, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
They do. But Dallas always played.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
It's always it's always it's always the Detroit and it's
always Dallas.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, like almost like I've gone to I've gone to
the Dallas Cowboys game the last maybe two or three years,
especially because I.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Mean it's probably part of shit that made them like
America's team because it was on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Just there.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
You know what, everybody's watching, everybody's home.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
But are they still America's team?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
You don't think so that's the Philadelhia Eagles like this.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
But you know what's crazy now, I don't even think
you think that's an Eagle.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm just saying right now, right now, I say Kansas
City came about.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
It is the biggest TV draw, can't right, And I
think that that's coming to a close.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
No, no, no, I also think it's because they're safe.
The quarterback is biracial. Then you got Travis Kel. That's
that's why part.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Of me was like the Cowboys when it was Michael
Irvin doing coca and they were America's team.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Mike, Yeah, I love. It's just winning.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I mean, it is winning. But that's why I like,
to me, there's no way like even though he's fine
as hell, Jalen Hurts and what that locker room looks
like after the Eagles won, These crackers would never make
the Eagles. It ain't white enough over there. It's nothing.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
But once I tell you, once I tell you some
Philadelphia history, like five minutes, two minutes, y'all gotta definitely
say now that's coming up.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
He was making plays with with Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know, and he got the way he got the
Penn State White. That's that, that's that's on par with that,
Michael Irvin White, Let's real white.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, Really, do you guys care who wins on Thanksgiving?
Or is it literally just the tradition of just watching
the game.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I just want Dallas Cowboys same.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
My family is really invested in the Cowboys losing.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Like I'm a giant and Eagles and Cowboys, Eagles gott
to run it up.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Okay, okay, yeah in the Lion's game.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
It's like he used to be to watch Barry Sanders
when you were a kid, but now it's just.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Like whatever, damn to watch Barry Sanders because he was.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Didn't see him.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
I mean, but even like today's kids, they know who
Jordan is, right right, It's not like Barry transcends different generations.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Okay, So that look at y'all, y'all, y'all gonna sit
with y'all family and be like, you know why the
Cowboys always play on Thanksgiving? Sometimes you listen to this
show and you're like, what are they saying with are
we not giving you a goddamn education?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Lesson class?

Speaker 4 (33:18):
The moment you get to help.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
You get to actually make it seem like you know
something you.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Can see past me, you know, you know, you know what?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Will your aunt sc here and pull you to the
side and be like baby when you're giving the family
smoke kids, and you gotta admit that you don't like
these niggas out here and dating is ghetto. You just
gotta be like, but do you know why the Cowboys
are playing today? Do you know why? Oh my god? Okay,
what are we getting into next? Jason?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
So do you so we can go to food or
we can go to Black Friday. Black Friday has the Philly.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Let's let's talk about the history. Let's talk about the
origin of Black Friday.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Black Friday origins, So retailers because somehow we always come
back to money and were talking.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
No, this is all about Captain.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, retailers tried to.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Call it Big Friday.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
They wanted to go with Big Friday because I am
curious why they it didn't stick. So Philly police they
called it Black Friday. So and they try to claim
it was It was like the chaos, the traffic and
all this. So for them it was like it's a
black stain. But that that feels like that's just a
cover up for racism. But that's how it became black Friday.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
I was told it was something to do with like
that's when all the businesses put on these sales so
they could go from being in the red to the black.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
That's another cleanup.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
That's also being.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
In the black is not a thing. I worked in retail.
I worked at Champs Sports, I worked at Coach, I
worked at Diesel, I was I was in retail. We
never talked about getting in the black or it's staying Yeah,
it's you know, and what did we do?

Speaker 5 (34:59):
L y did you have a participate in like getting
the black doorbuster deals, like standing there in front of
like your favorite store at five in the morning, four
in the morning, just to.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Get I always thought that that was dumbest ship.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I say, my mom used to do that.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I did that ship one time ever, yeah twice twice, that.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Like four am ship.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
That was crazy, Like that's the way the world used
to be. Well, and I think what's crazy or if
we're leaning into the conversation about capitalism knowing that clearly
Black Friday has been in its existence for our entire lifetimes.
The addition with the with the advancement of technology, and
adding Cyber Monday, I thought it's been really interesting. So

(35:38):
I gotta leave business Saturday.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
I think people was getting hurt too doing the bus
and stuff, and I think the Cyber Monday is allowed
to they fall back on that stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
But it's not even videos.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
But to me it was like they were going crazy crazy.
But also what they did around this time as well
was dropped certain toys.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
And so because also people are doing their holiday and
Christmas shopping oftentimes on Black Friday, that's when they would
be releasing toys in certain video systems and games, and
they made they made a crazy They made us act
like fucking barbarians, which is probably a part of them saying, see, guys,
this is what the holidays about.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Barrie also too, it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
I would joke around, like last year and the year
before about you know, the recession, and I'm like, if
I'm an economist, I'm watching the patterns and behaviors of
how people spend money during the holidays, and that's gonna
tell me if people are full of shit with their crime,
not to say that they're not. People are hurting, but
for us, we're not disciplined where we could say, no, well,
I can't buy this right now because I need to eat.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I need my family to eat. But they still do it.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
It go to Best bridey, go to Target, they go
to this in they body TVs and it's like, hey.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's not fully organized, but online they've been trying to
boycott Black Friday Thanksgiving Chris from the year Yeah, And
what's crazy is I don't think that we're going to
be able to even view the impacts of that, even
if it did exist, because we are in such an
economic crisis where, for whatever reason, they keep refusing to

(37:12):
use the ART word and no, I'm not talking about
the recession. Recession, y'all, that's the R word, but they're
like refusing to admit or acknowledge that that's what we're in.
And so even if there's a small couple.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Hundred thousand, like today, I was looking like the job
report usually comes out like on Fridays once a month,
It just it doesn't come out anymore because wait, the
Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Is like, what is the job report.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Where so you know, they always put the job report
that shows like a sign of the economy's health by
like the unemployment.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
The lady who was the lady.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Now they stopped putting the reports. So in terms of
like what you're saying, you can not.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
But that's why Trump can sit up there and say, hey, guys,
we have the most jobs that there's.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Ever been, most beautiful economy.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Because he's removing context. And I think it's also why
we're in a place where TikTok and elon like they're
also wanting to control the information that we're getting, which
is why they wanted to have such a steak in
an app like TikTok because.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
Turkeys almost heating up over there, Tay, you know what's crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's another thing. That is the only fucking meat outside
of cow that you can you know, this bird take forever.
The motherfucker cook.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
And you know what's interesting, They gotta plate and it
injected because it's so dry.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
It's like, that's what I'm saying, bro, Turkey is not good.
That is one I know, Like okay, okay, actually sorry, y'all,
we're coming around.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Have a chemical and it that makes you sleep what's
the chemical that makes you sleep triple fan or some ship.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Wait I'm saying I know I'm saying it wrong, but
it starts with the tea.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
There's a chemical that turkey just has it contribute to.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
No, no, no, that's all the other food we add
with that turkey that gives us the items and ship.
But you know, turkey has probably one of the best
pr pr behind it of any other thing. It just
doesn't make sense why we don't do fucking like why
not just be rotisserie chicken? Rotistory chicken has been subjected
to being just something in the bag that you get

(39:23):
when you don't want to cook, which is crazy. It's
a whole chicken.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
You gotta talk to somebody from tyson a butter Ball
like how the fun I need to.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Know the pr behind turkey. Okay, so we'll lead Black
Friday food. I know I talked about what I like
to cook. Let me ask, y'all, what is the worst
food on Thanksgiving? On the plate?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
I say, stuffing?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Oh I don't yeah, no, I don't love stuffing. I
don't hate.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
It like people who are into stuffing and make it
like my wife likes stuffing and she'll make stuffing and
it tastes good, but it's like she puts so much
effort in do something that's like it's not the headliner,
Like you know what I'm saying. Like it's like twelfth
on the list of ship on the tape.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Mashed up corn bread and a bunch of seasons and ship.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Hold on. And then if you make it right, because
you don't want to waste anything, all them organs that
were in the bag in the Turkey, you chop it
up and put it in some bread like where that's
what you think.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You know, that's your Caribbean side. That's your Caribbean side.
Know that that's provision.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
But it does that atoid.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Oh and you know people do that. It's an American thing,
thank you. It ain't my Caribbean thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Fort Caribbean. They call that provisions.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
When they take the provisions, you don't throw nothing out.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
So yeah, you find a way to make that a
meal right into.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
The bag and you chop that ship up with the
bell peppers and the celery and then the little stove
top box. Because I don't know many people doing stuffing
from scratch.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
My wife doesn't want to take the.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Save top box and then you back in the turkey
to dry out like it's like dry on dry.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
That's that's yeah, you're right, Okay, that's one of the
what do you think is the worst?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Man?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I'm not a fan of cast roles, although I.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Don't I don't think I've ever tasted a cast.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
There is one my mama used to make, because of
course she's white. Yeah, it was green bean French onion casserole.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
That sounds disgusting.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
So it's green beans with cream of mushroom and then
you put like the fried onions on top and.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Bake it already was already you said cream and mushroom.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
That's the wrong term.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I like cream and mushroom like cream mushroom even chicken like.
But cream and mushroom needs a new branding probably, But
it's not bad. I would say that, and then I
don't care what you Nigglets say fight me if you
want to blame my biracialists. Sweet with a pie.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Punkin pat is what.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
It's the same mother flag you ready to save color.
It's the same.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Seasoning fla, bro.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
You are not telling me that the different you put
a you put a dollar of that motherfucking whipped cream
on boasted them right next to each other. Y'all, bitch
is gonna eat both. I don't know why, but right,
but they act like punkin is the most disgusting. No,
it's not.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
They do act like.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Season come around. Niggas want to act like it's my
white side that wants everything to be punking. So then,
because y'all hate punking so bad, it's blinding y'all to
really see that that ship and sweet Potato pie is
the same.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Mother has a different taste.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
It's the same goddamn season.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Yeah you could, you could putting up meg and whatever,
but it's going it's still.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
The same mom. Different da dads, different dads.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Okay, maybe Also, you don't have a preference.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
You don't have a preference Pumpkin, sweet Potato.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
If you put it in front of me, it's the
same ship.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I ain't even go hold is it supertato?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Of course he's black.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
You don't have to ask him. I would somebody make
it from scratch? Or do you get it boxed?

Speaker 1 (43:21):
No?

Speaker 5 (43:21):
You?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
I'm accustomed to this. I'm accustomed to the scratch, Like
you know your fan. The female energy, they'll do it right.
But to his point, patty.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Pie is not a bad he said out the box, Like.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
If I'm going to a function, I'm not making that ship.
I'm not going to ask himody to make. I'll bring
that patty Pie.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I'm asking you experience because Thanksgiving it is like a
mix of like some people can throw down.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
So you get to course, you're ready for something, you're ready.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
For the selective ignorance about this the way people argue
this debate every year. Hold on, what's crazy is y'all
niggas don't ask for that ship any other time of
the year. If it's so goddamn good, why y'all not
eating sweep and Tato Poe and April.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
You can't have it all the time. You can't wear it.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
But what I'm saying is we eat mac and cheese
goddamn all year.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
We say, do you eat the same mac and cheese
all year that you eat during Thanksgiving? First off, y'all,
don't level it up Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
First off, eggs are thirty eight dollars. And so I'm
not mad at the people that throughout the year gotta
go to craft box route. You know what I mean.
It's just that it's expensive to make that mac and cheese.
But for those that go to church and actually still
do Sunday dinners, that's the mact that's being made. That's
the mact that's being made. It's the cheeses are expensive.

(44:44):
Them things an't gone.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Up, ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
I need to know now that you said that, like
what kind of eggs you putting in your shit?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
You're not putting free range, pasteurized.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
You're not doing a funk about that ship.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
If I'm making it for myself only, I'll buy it.
I'll close the premium. If I'm making for a lot
of people, then we.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Know what I found out recently.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
You're not at seatown, You're going to You're going to
Whole Food to get your premium.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Oh yeah, we're doing pray to Joe's Organic Ruin the
geographic location of the show, no one knows what the
sea town is. It doesn't live in the fucking Bronx. Okay, okay,
So y'all want to know something that I learned recently
and I was like shocked. You know, the eggs we
eat is the period eggs, Like, you know how.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Don't do this for some reasons, I'm interested I'm interested
you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I don't know if that makes me a nasty.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
So, like the eggs that we eat, in no way
will a chicky come out of it, because because it's
the egg that gets released during ovulation, so they're literally
not fertilized. So like every month when we bleed ladies,
we're releasing our eggs, we don't really see the egg,
but the chickens lay all these eggs during their cycle,

(45:56):
and so we're eating period eggs. It's just there are
RELATIONI eggs that weren't fertilized because they wasn't. Fucking now
clearly they separate the you know, they just freaking just
want to keep all the eggs. Yeah, but it's the
first it's it's them going through their cycle, y'all. That's
what we eat. So so only because because TikTok did

(46:18):
this little bullshit where you know, people do things for clickbait,
but and for vility. So they went and got these
quote unquote organic eggs from like Traider Joe's or Whole Foods,
put sat it under a lamp, and then a chicken
came like thirty days later type shit, and I was like,
oh shit. It was teaching people or making them think that,

(46:42):
Oh my god, if these eggs were just put under lamps,
we're really eating chicken like little chickis no, bro, The
eggs are not fertilized. It will never turn into chickens.
We're eating period eggs.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
So just so you know you're eating learned cycle today
today business.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
You learned something from me?

Speaker 6 (46:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I love that. I could teach you all things. Did you
know that, Oh he knew?

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Well, I'm glad ieers.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Did you know I've heard I've heard. But what are
those other eggs, the little ugly ones that's in the
store now.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Those those are queil eggs?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Crazy?

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yeah, I would never eat that ship Really, they're good.
If you go to it's weird. It's weird hearing you
say that with that hat on in that collar.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
You ate some quail eggs? You did, and I got
you going to sushi restaurants. Now, if there's ever an
egg over it, that's normally a quag. That's why it's
so little. The yoke everything be little. Those are I'm
gonna make you eat a Yeah, I gonna make you
eat a. Okay, let's get into let's get into food.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Can I say one last tip of the food thing.
It was interesting to me.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
It's like last year I runted a big house in
Philly and I had like it's like all my family
and my mom cooked and my wife cooked. And it
was so interesting because my dad only ate my mom's food,
which is expected, like that's the food that he eats,
and so like I had like my mom's food and
my wife's food. But then like it was interesting seeing
who was picking food from what or whatever. So I

(48:04):
was asking earlier, like what you what do you make
from the thing? Or like for you it's like do
people buy it or or box it? Because it's just
it's interesting like what people are grabbing and going towards,
oh for.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Sure or avoiding? Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
All right, let's get into celebrities say the darness things,
and you know what, I think I want to lean
into this in this way. We did talk I like
that first quote, but when we talk about family, right,
and the things that we love and that we're grateful for,
pets are a part of families, right. And it was

(48:40):
just it was just released and it's kind of scary
and people are a little nervous to find out that
Tom Brady cloned his dead dog because he loved his
dog so much. He now has another dog that is
actually a clone of his old dog. And can you

(49:01):
go a little bit more into this, like also, I
don't know why he had to reveal it to us,
but basically, his dog, Juny died in twenty twenty three,
but the dog was cloned from beloved pet Lua. Brady
is actually an investor in this business, and as an investor,

(49:22):
cloned the pit bull mix using a blood sample collected
prior to the death of his dog. Now did we
talk about the Tyrone movie? They cloned Tyrone? We know
the clones are out here. Now, by the way, we
can all now put to put to rest the rumor

(49:44):
of Gucci Man being cloned. We find out he just schizophrenic.
The nigga just lost weight to jail and his schizophrenic,
so he is not a clone. We just didn't know
he was battling mental health issues, you know what I mean.
But I did kind of want to have the conversation
with y'all if a if there's any person or any
pet in your life that you would clone, and your

(50:06):
thoughts about keeping something living with you or existing after
death with the technology of cloning.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
It's weird to think, like is it creepy or is
it cool to do it? For me, it's a little creepy.
But I guess it's because like I saw a pet
cemetery as a kid, Like you know what I mean,
Like maybe that influenced me a little bit, because it
doesn't I'm not like on the positive side of it.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
You're not on the positive side of cloning, but you
but you wouldn't a robot.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
It off in Black and yo, hell no, you ever
watched that that that series off in Black on Netflix
with the clone that was clone?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
It was a whole black no oh ship. That me up, Like.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
What what is the sci fi narrative of cloning?

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Like, well, it depends on what I'm utilizing it for
the greater advancement of of an agenda for the people
who create them.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Ships, Okay, but in this case it's a dog.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
But I think the sci fi element is like you
don't get it exactly right, and and so like one
element becomes evil, Like I think that's the thing that people.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Worry about possibility or that's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
It's like, I don't It's like I don't distrust the technology.
I distrust the people using technology.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's weird.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Do you think it's cool or do you think it's creepy?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Like you have pets, so what I do?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
But that nigga is so bad, I wouldn't clone as
bad as he, Like bro he was so bad. A
part of me is like my cat's behavior might be
a reason.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
That is also if my cat, if you get a
blood sample, can't you like then go into the DNA
and pick out the bad behavior part and then clone
your cat?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
So what's crazy? Behavioral behavioral components aren't something that normally
is derived in blood samples at all. It's normally you know,
gender and things like that, which is why to me,
this is no different than if you have a kid
and you decide to have another one interesting Like to me,
it's that, especially in terms of an animal, you don't

(52:15):
go through the whole process like of surrogacy and care
about the mom dog and the father dog, like you
don't care about that. So to me, if you could
just create one that looks just like it and may
even have the same behaviors, and maybe also he cloned
it and it's a dog that now is already familiar
with him. I don't I don't fucking know.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
To me, what does it change for Tom Brady specifically
if like if he had young kids and their cat
died or their dog died and then you get the
new dog, like that seems like a nice idea. Does
it change if like his kids are not young, Like,
do you think it's strange or do you think it's
just the same thing.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
But by the way, I do want to add, I
think for him even bringing it out and about is
because he's an investor. Yeah, and so for the right
people finding out that information, you tom Brady saying, hey,
work for me, It'll work for you. I did want
to add. Barbara Streisand's dog that died in twenty seventeen
also was cloned, as well as Paris Hilton's dog, Diamond

(53:14):
Baby into two puppies after the pet went missing in
twenty twenty two. So Paris Hilton made two clones of
a missing dog, and Barbara Streisand made a clone of
her dog Samantha as well. So it's not just Tom Brady.
The celebrities are doing it. I think if they make
it affordable the way that these niggas be throwing fucking

(53:36):
birthday parties for their dogs and shit, like the way
I've seen people grieve the loss of pets or grieve
their their animals getting old And I ain't even know
fucking dogs had periods and could get cancer. Like they
are integrated into a family and are treated almost like
human beings. Oh yeah, and so to me, if they
make it affordable, I absolutely would not be prize if

(54:00):
this becomes a more widely done thing, the same way
we're about to have these robots cleaning our houses. Like,
I'm not against technological advancements. I'm not. Now. I hate
having to set up everything with a QR code. It
trusted me the goddamn funk out. But I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not completely.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
I think if we if we start adopting to to
those tools and mechanisms, I would hope that we're educated,
you know, not just the usage of it, but understanding
that cannot the technology that's in it, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I think that that's something we have to look into
as well.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
We just can't be having robots and don't understand the
functionality and.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
You were you were really.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
You know, to guess we have come on in there
like yo, anything for many anything comand I really think
that's you and me.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
That's you and me, and y'all.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Didn't want to do this? Were you not excited when
I said it? On excited?

Speaker 4 (55:00):
The humili though, it's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
When you do humilica ritual, there's usually some kind of
wealth that comes after it. So I'm like, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Also, listen, we are we are approaching out. We are
approaching our first full year of this show. You know,
we're almost We're in the forties of our episodes, and
I think, what fifty What what makes a year? And podcast? Again?
Like fifty one episodes, fifty two episodes.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Traditionally two because we do you know you do.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
But my episode that's not counting these bonuses that y'all
niggas getting on Friday. It's okay content, I'm dropping this thing.
I'm having fun potting again. I love talking to these conversations.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
How the fuck do you have any energy? Though?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
You know it's great shit, I'm high on life. Everyone
doesn't understand. And then I party, I hang out.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
You know you show up by all the time.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
By the way, I also need younger friends. I am
I am reaching the age where my friends are like,
bitch up top, I'm literally going out now?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Sounds like oh to all of them, I know, to.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
All of them, all my friends, I'm likes, no, no,
you should you should see it's so bad. And mind you,
my friends have kids, and so I get it they
be a little bit more tired to me. But but
Crystal don't have kids. That's why I be like, bitch,
you can depressed? Why why you don't want to come out.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Like Crystal content creator?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
You need another day of therapy? Let me know, because
why do you not want to go out and drink
with me? Friend? Anyways, but let's do some Am I
ignorant to close this out because we haven't waded too
much fun? And uh yeah, I'm out of coffee. That's
this is what I actually I don't no, no, no, this
is what be having. By the way, By the way,

(56:43):
I probably tell me how bad it is, y'all tell me.
I know it is, but I need to hear it.
The same way. I don't eat salmon anymore because I
know they're like farm raised. Now I probably do anywhere
from I would say two to six, which is terrible
a day of espresso. I found out I'm doing something
called red red Eye. I like my espressos in cold brew,

(57:06):
and apparently cold brew is strong And I said, I
just thought it was cold coffee, like.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
That makes it stronger.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Apparently cold brew is stronger, And so I'll get a
cold brew and then be like throw a shot of
espresso on top of that thing, and then or I
just do a double espresso with a splash of milk
and drink it with ice.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
And that's the reason why we're wearing this ship today.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Crack. We came up with this idea in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I was off my co.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
By the way, you but I probably did have a
Baka soda live.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I was like, dress up, Am I ignorant?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yes? Ready, yes, I'm dressed like an.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I now have one leg of my pants up like
cool ja. Now Turkey's almost ready. So no one likes
Thanksgiving as much as all the holidays because it doesn't
give you stuff, And so they go on to say
Christmas has president presence, Halloween has candy. Thanksgiving is just
eating a turkey. You don't get a present or anything.
Humans just have a selfish nature. So when faced with

(58:11):
a holiday for thankfulness.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
We often overlook it, overlooking what you know, what we
get is a day off. And so for a lot
of people that is enough. You get, it's off, it's paid.
For the people who have salaries, it's one of those
days where it's a relief. It's coming at the time
of year that you need it. And for me, like

(58:33):
I said, there are people mostly men, because men love
to talk about how they don't get home cooked meals.
No nobody's bitches. There is an appreciation for sitting around
the table with people that you may not have seen
all year. So I think for me, the gratitude in
that comes from someone who comes from maybe someone whose

(58:56):
love language isn't gift giving or receiving. Right, A lot
of when you get older, gifts don't matter the same,
like you know what I mean, it's hey, I need
a bill paid, you know what I like? So spending
time with people because life be life in actually becomes
a greater gift for most people, especially as you get older.

(59:19):
So I think that's an ignorant take from somebody that
probably just maybe gift giving and receiving is their love language,
or maybe their materialistic which we talk about. I think
materialistic people could be quite ignorant, to be honest, and
so for me, this is someone who's probably just self
centered and slightly ignorant.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
You got time for one more, one more?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
All right?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Friends Giving? We haven't talked about that.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
We didn't talk about friends giving for real.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
So is this person ignorant or not? They said hosting
friendsgiving close to Thanksgiving with the exact same foods at
Thanksgiving is lame.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
So then they go on to.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Say, maybe I feel this way because I'm not a
big fan of turkey dinners, but anytime I'm invited to
friends giving parties with all the same food as Thanksgiving,
it makes me bombed. They're always playing near Thanksgiving, And
as someone who attempts to live off of leftovers and
eventually gets sick of them after Thanksgiving, I get sick
of them even faster this way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
So this is a I would say this this This
isn't ignorant, but maybe they're just unaware. So Friendsgiving, for
so many people are the time is the time to
be around the people that they care about. But oftentimes
Friendsgivings really are for the people that don't get to
go back home right or maybe they're family like they

(01:00:32):
don't have a big family, maybe they lost family members
and so this is a moment to actually experience this
part of the holiday. Yeah, I think. I think friendsgiving
for a lot of people, especially people who live in
the cities that they weren't raised in or don't can't
get to where they want, maybe for financial reasons or something.
I think friendsgiving is a good way to keep people

(01:00:53):
out of the depressive slump that comes around the holidays.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Do y'all do, Like I don't do friends giving, but
like the day after I usually do. It's like like
growing up, it's like my things even was very perto Rican,
so it's like the turkey and all that stuff and
then Puerto Rican food. My best friend four house is
let down Black family right day after we swapped food
and so then we get the best I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I like that For me, friendsgiving is something we're like again.
I think it's just a time for us to eat, hangout,
being around each other, do all the cool things. And no,
there's not really much tradition around it. When I lived
in Miami, I did it. I was appreciative that people
would bring me plates, but I enjoy friends giving. I'm
going to I think two in Atlanta, even though I'm

(01:01:35):
still going to Dallas for Thanksgiving, even that celebrating Thanksgiving
with my second family has now become a tradition. But again,
my sister was in the army. My mom prefers to
get time and a half and she don't want to
do all the cooking. She's a little lazy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
She's like, bitch, I don't have to cry'all every day,
y'all g you know what I mean and so and so.
For me, I don't care for the month of October. Bitch,
we gonna eat this that damn craneberry sauce, mac and cheese.
Y'all could eat the turkey, and you know for me.
For me, the best thing about Thanksgiving anyways is all
the sides. So fuck the meat unless you make oxail.

(01:02:12):
I love ox heil, but that's left overs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Leftovers is kind of fire.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
And by the way, y'all could suck my dick from
the back. I still eat ship in my say. My
ship says, best buy a date, and we passed that date.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
You don't walk by that date, you work by smell. Yeah,
my wife goes by smell by.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Date and I might taste a little bit like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Adventures.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Do you guys heat up your leftovers so you eat
it straight out?

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Both?

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
And that's the thing too. As a BSG person, I am.
I love leftovers. So I can eat the same food
for about two three meals a day, about three days
in a row, like that's it. And then maybe sometimes
I throw a little extra season and all this makes
it takes a little different. But yeah, I'm fine with leftovers.

(01:03:04):
I love leftovers. Leftovers love me, and we see each other. Okay, anyways,
those are two good questions. We do hope that you
guys get to enjoy your days off. If you have
it off the party, go and smoke that Jay with

(01:03:24):
the cousin outside. Feel me, you know, do your drugs
with your family because you could trust them. And and honestly,
for those of you who don't have family this year,
because maybe you lost them back during the pandemic or
for any other reason, hopefully you have a community around
you in friendship. I know I do, and I'm grateful

(01:03:47):
for it. So spend time with your friends. I think
this is the time of year where people are more
welcoming to be around people, even if they don't want
to because they know that this is this is the
time we give each other time. This is the time
give each other this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
This is gonna be the first holiday in my lifetime,
in my existence that I won't have my mom. So
it's like for me what you said, family, she I
know what she wants. She wants that. That was her
whole ship was that do that and everything else to
take care of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
So yeah, so to you to echo your point.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Whoever's listening, listen all the bullshit zone in on family,
because that's when it's all said and done. That's all
you got, you know what I'm saying. So and friends, Yeah,
and your good friends.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
That's gonna my family, No tricky. And then do you
have any final thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Like the same thing to quote Lebron James. I was
like say the same thing quoting Lebron.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Quoting Lebron James is crazy. This is a.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Football is football friendly friendly show?

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Is non dairy blasphemous?

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Yes it is?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yes, yo, you know so funny, oh ship, Because that
leads into you usually like start thinking about it Thanksgiving
for like you I Christmas can request like now my wife,
My wife tries to get into it once My wife
really learned how cocito was made because she saw my
mom making it and she saw like all the stuff.
It's like hearing when you talk about castle roll and
we heard that second ingrede and we're like, my wife

(01:05:14):
saw it being made.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
She was just like, yo, that is a lot of
like sweetened cals. Oh, it's crazy. It is no, no,
she was, it's insane. I'm going to look up a
vegan one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
It's like nobody, nobody asked for that. Every year she
flashes it, she's like, you know I got this option.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I'm like, oh, well, well you know this is like
this is still the time of year. Two questions they're
preparing for of course Christmas, and same with eggnog, the
egg and the need to know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Okay, I will say this, I got something for you.
I got something for the dairy people out there. And
we don't promote brands unless they're paying for this ship.
But there's just one bread brand, Khalifa Farms makes it.
I'm sorry, not egg, sorry because no egg, but Khalifa
Nog fire.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
It's just just like the ship. It's not as thick,
but I've only had.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Is so fucking good. And mind you yes, I'm about
to sound real white. They got pumpkin eggnog. Oh my god,
you put a little whiskey in that joint.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
I this young boy at my barber shop have to
connect on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
That this system.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
He's a Putri kid. It was wrong, that's it, Yeah,
I think so. All right, Well let me in a
traditionalist on the holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I see, I see, all right. Well the turkey has done, y'all.
We're about to cut about to cut into it. Pause.
We do want to wish you a very very very
very happy Thanksgiving. Give, thanks received, thanks, and thank you. Guys.
Here's my thanks. Thank y'all for tuning in, locking in

(01:06:50):
and rocking with me on this new journey of a
solo pod and you know, introducing y'all and building y'all's
ears to the voices of my two super producers, A
King and Jason. And yeah, y'all, we got one more
motherfucking mont left. One month left of twenty twenty five. Jesus,
this year went by not as fast as I wish.

(01:07:11):
There's so much going on. It's like, nah, this shouldn't
need to hurry up. Anyways, guys, thank y'all so very much.
Make sure you check out Friday's bonus episode. Other than that,
I'll see you next Tuesday. This is Selective Ignorance, where
curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations mata see you next week.

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