Selective Ignorance: Ep. 41 | AI Vs Autonomy, Decade Old Tweets & Non-Apologies feat. Jason "Jah" Lee - Decisions, Decisions

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel
free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,
black owned, or woman owned to support them, but also
just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

(00:23):
wherever you read your books.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy. Make sure y'all
get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This
is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of
The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to another
episode of Selective Ignorance with me, you girl, Mandy B.

(00:50):
Where I know just enough to be dangerous but not
enough to be depressed. This week and this is America,
we're getting real tenfoil hat with it. Okay, it's it's
the end of the year, so we're lighting up the
mood a bit. But we are tapping into the themes
of Apple TV's new show Pluribus Jo Caro and asking
is sci fi actually not that fictional anymore? Like at

(01:11):
this point is it a genre or is it a
soft launch for what the government got planned in real life?
So robots, surveillance, social scoring system, babes, it's looking less
once upon a time and more give it to more
election cycles? All right, look at my African American. Then
in celebrities say the darness things, including your girl, Hi, Hello,
it's me manby b They tried to get me out

(01:31):
of here, gotcha, bitch by emailing me some tweets that
I had out in twenty eleven and failed miserably. Because
guess what, I'm doubling down. Not only do I refuse
to get canceled and will I never get canceled. I
am letting y'all know that maybe in twenty twenty five,
those tweets from fourteen years ago still kind of apply.
We need to do better. Meanwhile, Rory from roorya Maul,

(01:55):
Kayla Nicole who everyone only knows as the ex of
a football player, and Tyler the Creator have gotten kind
of put in the hot seat over the last couple
of weeks with their tweets, but we are talking about
what black Twitter really was, what it meant, and if
we could just forgive everybody for their tweets from twenty
eleven everything.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Fuck the fuck up, y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
This is a fun episode leading into the week right
before our year and wrap up that has taking place
next week, so y'all make sure to tune into that,
and then of course we have a cute little Christmas
episode ending out the year. Also, listen, fuck your jobs.
None of y'all are really working right now anyways, you

(02:34):
know what I mean. Everybody is clocked the fuck out.
So I thought that we would give you guys some
entertaining conversations in your ear while you barely work.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Fuck your cop schnugger, Yeah, what what is it?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Working?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Barely working?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But what is the goddamn saying?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Are you hard? Harley? Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Working harder, hardly working? All of you nigglets are hardly working.
Show anyways, y'all don't per usual. I am joined by
my super producers, can can Jason Wegas y'all know journalism. Jason,

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I'm here to bring y'all the facts, the stats and
all the things. And then we have o G podcast legend,
a king here to what real mean really? Uh if
I'm getting too out of bounds, and then y'all welcoming
yet again a voice that you guys will learn to
get familiar with who will be joining me at the

(03:33):
top of next year as well. Really excited to welcome
Jason Lee. And we've already talked about it last week.
Not that Jonson, Sir Joah, Sir John Job crazy. He's
in the building, and I guess, uh, per usual, We're
gonna start off with some conversations about how I've been

(03:55):
kind of ignorant because baby I have. It is really
crazy because I'm actually starting a list as we come
into the studio and I'd be having to like hold
some for the following episode because I'm like, damn it, bitch,
be ignorant a lot, damn what is wrong with your girl? Everything? Maybe,
but this one, I actually am not the ignorant one here.

(04:19):
I had to call out a friend who was ignorant,
and I want to hear y'alls thoughts on if it
has ever happened, and pretty much per usual, I'm trying
to educate men here on this one. Okay, So anyways, Uh.
A couple of weeks ago, I went to a Prize
Picks party, and you know Prize Picks.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Throw the bag here? This is not a sports podcast,
but we could do it here. I can get listen.
I could bet on which niggas look good to say, yeah,
they gonna throw the ball real far, like what's up?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
No? No, no, and.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Do no not.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
The crazy part about it is is what I when
I'm out and I'm watching it so crazy to me
and my friends are the same type of bitches. So
we'll be watching a game, We're not really watching the game,
but a fine motherfucker come across the screen because you know,
the helmets don't come off very often, but when they do,
and then they put the little name at the bottom
of the screen, immediately you got to go find then Instagram.

(05:21):
That's what I do. And then nine times out of
ten they fucking have white wives. But uh, and then
I'm like, ooh, not gonna follow him. But if I
go down enough rows and they ain't got no no
pictures of the wife, no pictures of the girlfriend, I'm
hitting that follow button, hitting it like in a couple
of pictures. Uh, but yeah. Anyways, Prize pixs high let
your girl. So I go to this Prize Pix event.
It's really cool, really dope. I did not win the

(05:43):
money that I thought I was gonna win. Of course,
I go into all gambling thinking, ooh, I got free money,
I'm gonna win big and did it, but had a
good time. Saw a lot of familiar faces and it
was it was cute. So I'm not gonna say the
rapper's name because the rapper is in a relationship. But
it was very very platonic conversation.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
A relationship or relationship.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Relationship, which is the only reason why I'm not going
to bring it up, because I don't want it to
seem like it's something that's not. Anyways, I'm talking to
this rapper because we had exchange words at the BET
Awards a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Exchange words.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, no when I say exchange words. And now I'm
probably even gonna say. My mom is a big fan
of this rapper, ironically, and so I FaceTime I say,
oh my god, my mom loves you so much, like I,
do you mind if I FaceTime six? Now they're little,
they're little, which is also a part of the story

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as well, which is crazy. So he's a he's a shorty,
but my mom is a fan. Okay, you know what,
because I've already let it know how platonic it is,
and I don't want him like that.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's two sy.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Favorite puts me on, tell your mom to share a playlist?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Right the way this is this is a super like
Atlanta reunion. So I walk in with Travis Porter and
k Camp those are the people, you know what I mean,
I know them niggas forever. So anyways, I go here,
Suci's there. He's got security, but we catch each other's eye,
don't talk, but then we finally talk and he's like, hey,
how you been. Finally it's like okay, I was like, hey,

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what's up? But yeah, he FaceTime my mom, So my
mom's forever grateful about that. He's he's one of like
the sweetest guys. And I really do like his music
because my mama put me on. So anyways, we're talking
and we're just catching up, and I was like, you
don't live in Atlanta, right, He's visiting for for whatever
he was visiting for. In the middle of our conversation,
it's just me and him talking. But mind you, at

(07:51):
the top of the stairs, mad people walking around, but
it's me and him in conversation. My homie walks up
in the middle of a conversation. Mind you, I see him.
I see him from my eye and I give him
not He walk up behind me and give me a
hug from the back while I'm talking like Michael RB.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
If y'all don't know the micro look up the white parties.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
This nigga huggs everybody from the back.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Two arms.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Why he gives you the very important it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
He he like literally is walking behind me and in
the middle of my conversation he hugs me from behind.
So he's entitled this is you don't even know hold on,
so let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
So I'm like, I'm like, did how long you stay?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
He did his cross to you? But yeah, yeah, he
lean into it was it wasn't the crotch at the butt,
but it was just like one of hed the butt
sticking out because I couldn't see from the back. All
I know is shortly after all, right to see like
the conversation, but my you and we wasn't talking about nothing,

(09:01):
just like well he got going on while so I perturbed.
But I'm upset and not because I was trying to
throw no pussy at this nigga, nothing like that. But
I'm just thinking, what.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
If I was no, no, a little bit.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
You are a professional radio personality podcaster to this woman.
You could have been discussing whatever whatever you feel liberally, so.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
As a man and another man, whatever it is, you
don't come and make it awkward or uncomfortable or do
that ship mind you, just say, this is a whole
me said.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Person you was talking to might interpret that, oh ship.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Like oh, let me back up. So anyways, we go
to to passing each other, go into the bathroom and
I let this nigga have it, and it's my homie.
I say, hey, come on, I said, don't you ever
your motherfucking life mind you, he's not even a nigga
that we like that.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
We even we don't even in brace like that.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I said, Nigga, I said, don't you ever in your
motherfucking life while I'm talking to any other man, because
it's really a man, particularly while I'm engaging in conversation
with another man, come up first, off from behind, but
also make your presence be known like that and interrupt
in exchange that's happening between me and another nigga, because
first off, you don't know what the conversation was. You

(10:24):
don't know who this nigga is to me, but you
also don't know the conversation, and your presence interrupts that.
And do you know what his first response was?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
But I know your type.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I didn't think that that was anything because he's short,
because to see is on the shorter side and it's so.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
Literally that's good on his part.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So because this nigga wasn't six foot, you felt entitled
to come interrupt or make your presence be known in
a conversation where it wasn't warranted, and so we literally
had to have the whole conversation because he didn't see
the problem with what he did. Apparently he brought this
scenario to multiple people and they all said, nigga, you
dead ass wrong. So I say this to say for

(11:07):
any but not only that, this is one of those
universal things men listening. If a woman that you know
is engaging into a conversation with another man, regardless of
what their relationship is, you making your presence be known

(11:29):
by coming and embracing her in that moment is dead,
ass ignorant is fun, and it's wrong, like because again
men see that as a territorial thing, as if he's
doing something wrong, even though he wasn't. Bro, we were talking,
We were having a conversation. Mind you wanting him to
come on a radio want it? Like, nigga, what are
you in Atlanta for how long? Because I'd love to

(11:51):
get you on my ship. And then he come over
and embrace me. And now this nigga feels like, oh,
I don't cross the boundary. I shouldn't be talking. Let
me back off. And so I had to tell him that,
but I was like, how do you not know this?
So I didn't want to make this announcement to any
nigga who.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Is like, wait, what's the problem? Bro?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
If a woman is engaging in conversation with any man,
it don't matter. If that's her coworker, it don't matter.
If it's just a stranger, it don't matter if it's
it's a colleague.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Do not or some nigga you think she don't like,
or nigga that you don't.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Think she likes, because you don't think that's her. Do
not come over and insert yourself into the that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
If you do a Michael Rubin from the back and
you see somebody like you have you have to you
have to like stick and stay.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
You have to you have to be like, oh this
is my pe. No, no, you join the conversation. That's no, no, no, no.
That's even worse. That's even worse. You don't see Michael,
you don't. You don't embrace it from the back and
then stay into a conversation that you're not a part of.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Well, first of all, if you have the audacity to
do a Michael Rubin, you've got to plant you can't
even worse.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Again, that means you are you are putting your your
scent into it. Unless unless you are my nigga, and
unless you are on some like insecure as shit and
we are together and I am in a room speaking
to someone that might intimidate you, make you feel uncomfortable
or you feel like you have to include yourself. Cool,

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But if you are just a friend of if you
are just a male counterpart male, you don't insert yourself
into a space between a woman and another.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Man because it's a violation on multiple fronts, right, all
the violation.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
The first is like.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
You yourself as the person being accosted by this hug,
like you know what I'm saying, So like, hey, that's
the first thing that stands like paramount.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
But then the other part of it till you spoke
to is like.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
We men were in social situations, like we understand how
things go and like whether your ego can deal with
it or not. Like be in a room with a
lot of other men. There's rich niggas, there's powerful niggas.
There's niggas who might be on your quote unquote level.
There might be all kinds of situations going on. You
don't want to be the weird guy.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
Facts.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Also, I know a lot of women. I'm friends with
a lot of women.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
I really can't name you a single woman and he's
a woman who to your point, some women you don't
even embrace like that whatever. But all the women that
I know that I hug, I can't really name you
one of them that I would hug from the.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Back unless you ate my ass, Hug me at the back,
hug the bitch from the back, unless you work. Yeah,
like that even an etiquette of hugs, which is why
both of y'all asked, was it both, here was one,
here was the church hug was Yeah, it was from
the back, which made it egregious. Nonetheless, that could have been.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
If you what if you was talking Todd, I mean, whoever?
And who are you emotional intelligence? Like I don't have it?
Who are you say?

Speaker 8 (15:03):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, but I mean if it's your lady.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
That's a whole un saying that in the moment we're
talking to hit him.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Who are you determine who's my who's my type or not? Like, yes,
everyone knows that, don't give you but that. I was
so like, how old is this nigga? In his thirties?
He know better?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, that's and he asks other people. That just shows
that he didn't know.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Referencing last week. These niggas be knowing better, they just
don't choose to do better. They just ignore and don't
give a fuck. And when I tell you, I and
I ain't never talked to this nigga like that because
he's cool, Leslie, I said, don't you ever in your
motherfucking life you see how many kurtseperds I'm using. I
was so upset.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Of course, he was probably how long have you known him?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Actually met him? This year?

Speaker 6 (15:56):
So here's what that. Here's what that is, right?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
What is that? What that is?

Speaker 6 (16:05):
That is him taking an opportunity what he thought back
what he thought was an opportunity to be like, oh man,
and then he thinks the water yeah yeah, yeah, response
would be warm.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
She thought she was gonna lean back into it.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, that was him.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
That was the passes aggressive, Like all right now, if
she leaning ass back into me, she liked me.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Maybe maybe I got.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
A niggas he over He might be right at six.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
Because niggas fish and niggas fish in various ways. Sometimes
I can fish by saying a compliments. Sometimes I can
fish by doing it a chore.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Don't fish? How about that?

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, you know, fishing physically That nigga was fishing though
he was because.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know what I mean. Difference between flirt and sexual assault, Like.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah about it?

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Like even if you even if there's a person that
you regularly embraced, what if you didn't want to be
touched right now? Like you know, I did it and
I can't see I mean conversation, I mean conversations.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
So you just take it upon yourself to that you
can't do that, bro.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Mind you I'm in a room and I'm looking around
and I love it. There's no bodies. I have no
bodies in this room. There's not one in this room
that I fucked. So immediately, who got the nerves?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah? Who is this? Right?

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Ain't none of these niggas, none of mine?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I had his read coming, mind you, none of them
are in my rolodicts in this whole room, right. So
I'm just like, why are you laughing?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You caught it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, yeah, you feel me. That's a T shirt, you know.
But yeah, I was like, did the nerve the dacity?
Because listen, if it's one thing a man gonna have,
he can't no money, no job, little dick whatever, he
ain't got much, but he gonna have the audacity.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Pocket full of audacity.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh my god. Anyways, I'm glad to know that y'all
are mature enough to know that you don't just hug
bites from the back. That's a standard in conversation in
the presence of another man.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
And to be honest with you, like I never had
to be told that, like that's not a thing, that
that's not really a lesson that you.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I never had to learn that lesson. I want to
sit you down and tell you about I'm gona tell
you by somebody what you can't do now.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Just you have some level of social intelligence, of emotional intelligence,
you just know, Okay, this is gonna you know what
to be.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Fair, to be fair, and I will say it, and
it's gonna sound and it's stupid, probably gonna make y'all
little bad. I don't care. Everyone's still not diagnosed yet.
So social cues are like we talk about what is it? Everybody?
Like common sense ain't so common the social cues. And

(19:04):
we could blame the pandemic a little bit because people
had to be inside for some time, but also they
weren't inside in Atlanta, so social cues should be better
here than anywhere else. Y'all niggas didn't have social It.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Should be for the record, as the longest standing in
Atlanta resident in this room, my ass was inside.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I don't know nothing about.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
What the niggas, the super bars, niggas, all the videos.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
COVID was saying hi to everybody, but yeah to me,
social cues.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
And that is that, you know, It's funny, like like
if you introduced me to a friend of yours. Right,
the first thing I'm gonna do is reach my hand
out nine times at the ten they said no, I
give h only say that because I believe because of
how I present it, because they're like, no, that's respectful, right,
you know, come give hugs, right.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That should be it. Yeah, and then he should have.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Honestly, I would have if I'm him, I would have
played off to the side.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Wait till you finished talking?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Man, what upsy? Even in the front facing greeting instead
of that?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Are you saying that though I only extend hugs to women,
if I'm meeting a man, they're getting a hand out,
like I don't like even if I'm being introduced, I
don't embrace men. I embrace women to let their guard down. Know,
like girl, I'm friendly bit yeah, but men I never
embraced with a hug upon introduction.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Most nine times out of ten, I meet a woman,
send your hand, You get a shake if if from
that shake, and then y'all have a good conversation or
y'all are kicking of the bunch of a group of
people and y'all have gotten to like warm up to
one another.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Most times, then you get the hug.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Crazy ye be weaving through Florida bronze. But that there's
a two part violation though, because the first violation is
he shouldn't even came up.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
In the should have saw you got excited and be like,
oh cool, soon she done with that, like I'm gonna
go say what's up to her whatever.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
So that's the first thing, But the second part is, yeah,
you definitely like you can't just.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Anyway shout out to tescy uh and and him being
my mom's favorite rapper. I guess I'll ask the room
before we dive in. Did any of y'all do anything
ignorant over the last week or so?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Hmm?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I love a good clean life man ignorant of the butt. No,
did y'all Did y'all do anything ignorant or that y'all
feel like could be perceived as ignorant?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Ignorance is and an eye to beholder.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Please chop please, No, I don't think.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
I mean, I feel like all the ignorance ship that
I do is like like talking about people like okay, yeah,
the good old fashion.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
To talk about who you cursed out and what your
thoughts are on certain drivers.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's okay, okay, So here's a story.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
And this isn't even my ignorance, but this is like
a very ignorant thing that I that I saw in
real time.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
But I was like, damn, that really happened.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Okay, so I've.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Only been arrested one time in my life. Oh okay,
all right, game is the game?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Actually wait no, we're equal. I forgot the Nelson.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well technically I got arrested twice in forty eight hours.
But it's for the.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Same cheese, the same package.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Same yeah, same same, same same. Later that's like you
get some head. That shit don't count.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
So that's another so as a body or yeah, head
counts as a body, that's not a body. The body
is a body.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
No, oral sex is sex, but that's not a body.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
If you walk into the room and a nigga can
say her mouth has been around my fucking dick to anybody,
that means that's not. That's not.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
But if you ask somebody count your bodies, you're not counting,
like you're not. You're not adding that into the list.
You're adding the niggas who anyway, we're getting off.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, okay, yeah this same decisions, say.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Decisions, right, Yeah, I got to invite me to another part.
But so no, so I get arrested. We're on our
way to the jail. We get to a red light
downtown Atlanta. There's a bunch of one way streets everything there.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Everything.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
We get to the red light, we see headlights coming
towards us. Cop is looking at that.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
We're all in it.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
Had the same thought at the same time, like why
they coming at us? It's a one way street. Cop
task partner and says, I bet.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
You twenty dollars day Asian Yo, yo. I'm in the
back of the car, like.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
You should have started negotiating there.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Let me go. Look, I bet my bell agent.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Look the cops, white cops, two white cops, bet you
twenty dollars Asian bet boo.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Pull up on them.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Car full of like six Asian folks in the car.
This about it.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
But we just don't do that.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
What's that We could call it out? We do what
we call out. We can, Yeah, who's committing the offense?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Special talent I have. We literally do that a lot
all the time, and I have a I have a
bit of a problem with it. Y'all know the video
I sent y'all this week, you know, the one in
the chat so that Okay, I came across. I came
across the video and it pissed me off because I
think it's what we were we were talking about it
with and we'll get into the tweets later. But in

(24:38):
terms of how we are also racist against other we
can't be racist but prejudice, bius, bias towards other other ethnicities. Bro,
why do we be shot when they do it to us?
And this is so here we are So there's a
clip that I saw and it is yeah, can we

(25:02):
just well, yeah, we do.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
That amongst our own to That's that gotta be a nigga,
that's a straight nigga.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
But yeah, and you know, I'll draw a very thin
line right the ship that we be biased about toward
most people.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Don't be crimes. No, no, we mean we mean biased.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I want you to watch this, watch this.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
Video English ship Mexican.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Can you tell me the difference between Valentino and Patino?

Speaker 8 (25:34):
You?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Honestly, they kind of both taste the same. Ones made
here in the United States ones made in Mexico. I
mean basically they taste the same. Honestly.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
Okay, thank you excuse me?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Are you black?

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
But he put out that.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Literally you speak first off, the question do you speak English?
Is crazy? And then you're Mexican, right, And then it's
hot sauces of two different like clip bro to me
and she just asked it, like so again selective ignorance.
So you can walk up to a Mexican ask them
if they even speak English first, then ask them about

(26:20):
these two hot sauces and be like, Okay, thank you.
But if someone else walks up to you and asks
what you perceived to be a racist thing because they're asking,
but they're knowing that you should be knowledgeable because you're black,
how the fuck you mad at that?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
But he actually matter, by the way, by the way,
by the way, if y'all are listening audio only, when
he asked, hey, you're black, right, he's holding a Jiffy
box of corn bread.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
And a watermelon. That's what I'm saying that, to be.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Fair, would black people I have the most knowledge around
corn bread and watermelon?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
He gave. He gave great knowledge. He was able to
explain the difference between the top of fair Enough, if
I go to a black person, I'm gonna what are
the races can make cornbread? What are the races associated
with watermelon? So if he had a question about corn

(27:24):
bread and watermelon, what makes a racist? Then he went
up to you're black, right.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
I think if he if she had to pulled out
some avocados, and then it would have it would have
been equal. He pulled out head, I'm gonna knock all
this out, and I got feel like, let's everybody eat
the hot sauce.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
It was a skit to be in terms of like
how we want people to treat us, we somehow get
a pass to be completely ignorant, not not selectively. We
believe we get the past to be completely ignorant with
every other race in our biases and their stereotypes. But

(28:06):
heaven forbid someone else of another race has the stereotype
about us, and so like it's one of those like
do all the others?

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Is you?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Like done onto yourself? I don't understand why we get
the past to be just completely ignorant to all other I.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Don't think I would ask a Mexican that they different.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Bullshit, bullshit you just said. But the avocado, I'm walking
up to it as.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
It relates to what the what is the one of one? Well,
you know, I'm thinking about it now.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
My selective ignorance came out on seeing it one time,
not that I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
What you was ignorant on CNN is representing us.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
You were ignorant, and I could have there was a
way to me to avoid this ignorance, but I didn't
didn't think about it until after the fact, Right, what was.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Your ignorance caught by everyone?

Speaker 8 (28:57):
No?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
No, no, no, it was only caught about one person.
It was so we were on there talking about bad
Bunny in the Super Bowl. Bonney shout out to Benny Benito,
by the.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Way, shout out to also his change in aesthetics. I
didn't know that bad Bunny was Bad Bunny who he
is now because he's fine. But when he came out,
he looked real uptown, uh Washington. I was like, this

(29:30):
is the same.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
So we're talking about him on the Super Bowl and
they came to me on the panel and I was like,
you know, all these Magga people are mad at that
he's going to be not speaking English whoo woop the woop.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And I was like, yo, I hope none of.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
These people will get access to tacos or guacamole or
none of that. Ship Like, fuck him all you don't
want if you can't, if you can't support this man.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You put your Mexican.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
So I posted the clip on my Instagram and I
don't think nothing of it. And he wasn't tight because
we know each other, but it was still funny. When
he said I was like, oh, ship, He's right. I
could have said a different food, so you could have
had bad knee.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I could have.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Tacos Mexican all the way.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I'm not Utrian, but not even a little bit. That
was so so Rook of Justice League. Justice League Rook
hit me in the comment. He was like, bro, we're
Puerto Ricans, like, we don't eat that ship. And I
was like, you know, point that out, to point that
out of all people.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Because to be very fair, if if Jason decides to
make hen he gonna be real American and say Taco Tuesday,
we do a taco thing that I'm sure him and
his wife just make like it's given. It's given. They
buy the taco bell box. Well, you're not making homemade

(30:59):
corn tortillas. They said you are hard shell. The soft
shell were getting.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
But when he said that, I was like, damn, I
could have said a million different food. But that was
your but that was that was my ignorance. I was
just like, ah, very Spanish people, that that was the
that was and I thought about it. I was like,
then that was ignorant.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
That was like me saying, well, sure makes more sense
when I call them the Espanios because they do all
speak Spanish. At least that's a common thing. All right,
I would listen, I didn't get so many people mad
from last week. So it's Spaniols. That's what I'm going into.
And then you know what, it also includes the Spaniards. Okay,

(31:43):
Europe the euro Spaniards, but colonizers.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I'm going to say this is a white people. Yeah,
you spinards, damn.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Historically accurate colonized colonizes. And if you'll haven't, if y'all
haven't heard talked about the colonizers yet, please go back
to our Thanksgiving Day episode because we give y'all all
the history on the Americas. Anyways, we're gonna put on
our tenfoil hats for this is America. Don't got to

(32:15):
sleep in on them, because I think we're all a
little fed up and tired of talking about the orange
cheeto in the office. And as we round out the year.
I want to give y'all some good television to watch
because again, y'all aren't working hard. You're hardly working. So
this is normally the time of year where yeah, you
got to spend time around family, but you get to
like wind down and watch TV. And me and John

(32:37):
luckily had our We made y'all get into the show.
But if you haven't yet, and spoiler alert, but not
so much. We are talking about the Apple TV news
show Pluribus, brought to you by the team that made
Breaking Bad and Better Calls saw. You know what's crazy
about that? Either my sister. My sister has a sea

(33:03):
that is problematic and ignorance the show. Y'all enjoying this
as a listening experience, you know, when the main character gets.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Not what happens.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm going to give you guys a brief synopsis, but
for for what I wanted to do with this was
kind of dig into the themes to talk about where
we stand on certain things such as AI, the idea
of world peace, UH agency as a human and what
humanity even means. But the show follows Carol Starks, who
is a successful fantasy romance author. But it's really dope

(33:51):
because she leaned into heterosexual romance as a lesbian. So yes,
if you are a Christian you fucking hate the gays,
this might not be for you. But she survives an
alien virus outbreak, which kind of looks a lot like
the coronavirus, y'all. It impacts the entire world now for

(34:13):
whatever reason, y'all know, just like normally in most sci
fi films, there's people that outlive shit or are the
cure for all things. When this takes place, there are
eleven people total in the world who do not get
infected with this virus. Now, the show pretty much follows Carol,

(34:35):
who is one of the eleven who are not affected,
and she has a huge issue with what's going on.
The tagline for the show is the most miserable person
on Earth must save the world from happiness.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
And I want to add this part add to it.
The virus isn't a virus like the Last of Us or.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Zombies essentially zombies kind of zombies, but it's a it's
a social virus that essentially when you catch when you
catch this virus, you get a choice of either joining
the hive mind joining all of society.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Kind of, well, you don't get well.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
The only reason I say they don't get a choice
is because the woman, without going too far to it
ahead of time, the woman said when Helen passed, she said,
Helen joined us.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Before she passed, So, like you catch it.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
And they haven't explained this yet, but the way I'm
taking it based on what they showed us, is that
as you are dying, quote unquote dying, you get an
option of either either you're going to be part of
this collective state of everyone, or you're going to die
off as an individual.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Which is interesting because I mean, we've talked about zombies
on here and I was like, bitch out running them,
But this is, this is this is essentially different, right, didn't.
It's a very different take on uh an apocalypse essentially,
And so there's so many themes that are brought about
by this, and I'm not sure where we want to

(36:12):
take it first, Jason, I know that we had some questions.
Do we want to just start with whether if you
had the option and mind you, let me tell you
essentially what is being proposed here. It is a state
of pure happiness and content, so you're not sad, you

(36:33):
don't really have feelings whatever, you want to do. Essentially,
is is all for the betterment of society, and everything
is good. There's nothing bad, there's no crimes anymore, no
one has an ill thought to do something wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Right, It's a net positive society.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yes, there we go. So let's start there in exchange
you for losing yourself, your identity, your individuality, what makes
you different, because essentially everyone is the same. Now everyone
has the same goal. Everyone just lives happy. There's no
no one cries, no one's mad, no one's angry. Everyone

(37:15):
just you just want to help. Literally to the point where,
let me tell you this, they don't even believe in
killing so much so to where you can't fish, you
can't step on an end. Nothing intentionally that would cause
harm to any.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Life has value. In the value of that life supersedes
everything else.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yes, now, with this, would you guys, decide to connect
to the hive mind where your thoughts and feelings are
transparent and aligned with everyone, or would you would you
not want to do that and filter out?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Sign up?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Sign you up to be happy.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
Because from my standpoint, the way I look at it
is is that that in this individualistic life that we live,
we're all trying to chase that happiness.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Happiness, we're trying to achieve peace.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
We're trying to achieve happiness in ourselves individually, and hopefully
if everyone has that same goal, everyone can move in that.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Gay I think that's my problem, Like with what you
just said, though that's fair, everyone doesn't what makes people
happy or not the same? Well, happiness is not subjective, Well, happiness.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Is Happiness is sugg subjective based on the fact that
we have choices, we can make individual choices.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Right.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
If that, if that idea of making individual choices is removed,
then there is nothing else but happiness.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Like the the philosophy of life is suffering.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
I don't know if that's Plato Socer I don't know
one of them niggas said that shit, But like life
is suffering, right, Like we all endure things, and we're
all working through our lives, through our professional and our
personal relie relationships and what we decided to spend our
time on to find a place that gives us peace,
that actually gives us the happiness that we want, and
we're pretty much suffering outside of those things.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It's it's interesting because even in terms of how you
consider suffering right, like mind you, grieving is something that
we know we're all going to deal with. But to me,
happiness a lot of times comes from achieving the things
that were hard, that were hard to do, that were
hard to do right. So, completing college one of my

(39:33):
most prideful moments, even though now not so much because
student debt, but Sally made a suck my dick from
the back. The idea that I completed it though it
was hard is what brought me happiness.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Would you miss that though?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Would you miss the hard the process? Would miss the hard?
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Done, That's my point. I wouldn't miss suffering.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
If I was just given happiness, I wouldn't be like, damn,
I wish you could be fucked up so.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
That I could be happy.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's but that's how you know what happy is?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Right? I think the contrast of it, and it's controlled happiness.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
But it's only but it's all. We only know that
from our perspective because we have choices to make the
only reason that there is the suffering because we can
make individual decisions, and you make that decision, it might
go left, it might go right.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Now, let me ask you the other question. There was
eleven people. Would you want to exist as yourself now
in a world where everyone else has this virus?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
So the Diabat character, yeah, so oh oh yeah he
when that.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
When they put it out. But you're just calling him Indian.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Because you know what I'm thinking about. No, I'm putting
him related to the mother and the son.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
This man is just from.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
It could be like, Yeah, when the nigga pulled up
in Air Force one, I was like, this, he got
hold on.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
He got it with with hose.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I was like, oh, he got it.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I think I think that was an interesting part. So y'all,
maybe episode two or three, there's an episode two that's.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
When it really says this. Episode one sets you up
for the premise of what Yeah, episode to let.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
You know, gives you the deep dive to where this
is happening. Because because a lot of the other people
that she's able to meet, she wants to meet with
the ones that speak English and very American.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Very we're gonna talk about it reminded me.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
She reminded me of like, yeah, only because just so
y'all know, I'm going to cure us out for Christmas
and the most let me, I'm bringing up another ignorant
thought of mine. I love Aruba so much because the
first language is English. Same for curious out it's the neighbor.

(42:06):
I personally, I hate traveling internationally where niggas speak another
language first, because then there's like accents, I gotta decipher
ship and I'm like, oh, where do they speak English?
That's where I want to go. I want to go
enjoy another country, but I want it's convenience, very American American.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
No one could argue that ignorance and American is.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
So she sits with these people and essentially she feels
like there is a problem with what society is looking
like now. She's like, oh my god, it's up to
us to save the world. And they're looking at.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
Her like I'm good, granted, but they still have loved
ones around.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
They do still have loved ones around. She is by herself,
she's sort of like in like a purgatory. But the
French guy comes in and he's he's viewing this from
a lens that takes advantage to me of what happiness
looks like because he's leaning in more so individualistic, because
whatever he wants he's asking for. Because that's another part

(43:10):
of the virus. These people don't say no, They give
you what you want, and so he has a harem
of whores. He blew in on the Air Force one jet.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
We have the nuclear football. What are you doing? Are
they benefiting? Is he benefiting?

Speaker 6 (43:32):
They told Carol that they're still trying to figure out
how to fix get them.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
So they can make that decision.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
So does he And it's like clearness. They're trying to
figure out how she can get infected with the virus.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Want her to be right, so that would apply to
the other, to the other.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
They're all trying to figure out that enjoyment that he's
experiencing right now might be a further down the line.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
In the last series, it was.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Crazy because is also in that in that same scene
where he clearly wants to have sex.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
With the girl.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
And so for me as a woman, it was really
interesting to tap into the idea that a woman couldn't
say no.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, that's exact part. Cont part of it was very
do you feel like whatever he asked her? Did he
asked what's her name?

Speaker 6 (44:26):
Did you feel like you know I was Did I
do something to make you She said no? And she no,
She didn't say no, She said affection is always welcome.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
It was wow wow.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
And I think that as a society where women have
now the right to say no, seeing that as something
that they brought into the script was really interesting because
it removes the choice from from women all over, like
like that's essentially.

Speaker 7 (44:57):
What they did a good job of making it because
like the man figured out her name and the woman
didn't figure out the woman's had no right. Yeah, so
it's like it made it murky where it's like he
put in like, yeah, he made an attempt at connection.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Correct, Yeah, he was investing in them as people. She didn't.
She didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Weird because she sees them kind of like how we've
perceived zombies to be zombies are not people, right, And
so it was really interesting because yeah, these people are
operating just in a different way of which we view society.
I will say, as you watch this, you have so

(45:47):
many themes. So there's the themes of autonomy, what makes
you human? But one of my favorite scenes reminded me
of where we're going with technology and AI. She goes
into Sprouts and it's completely empty and she calls the
people because you can call them, and she's like, yo,
I just want to grocery shop, and literally she's like, well,

(46:08):
whatever you want, we can deliver it straight to your house.
So it reminds me of this era that we're going
to with Amazon right now, but also with me. I
get anxiety about going to the grocery store. I don't
want to go to a grocery store. I like all
of my whatever I want being delivered straight to my door.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
And you see her almost break down, where apparently going
to a grocery store and walking down the aisles is
a part of humanity, is a luxury is a part
of again, maybe remember when we talked about what things
we would miss if the world changed. She almost broke down,
was like, no, all I want to do is walk
down the aisles and buy my groceries. And it was
really interesting to consider that as a luxury of humanity

(46:49):
and just being human because so many of our things
are being automated. AI is coming in taking over, and
I do say it, what's crazy is where I love
all of my groceries to be delivered to my door.
One of the things I hate the most is sitting
down at a restaurant and having to order my meal

(47:10):
through a fucking iPad and then I still got a
tip of bitch, no one talk to me scanning, I'm wiping,
I'm adding what's being taken off. It's completely removing the
the interaction, but then at the end it's still asking
for a tip. The ship just came out like there

(47:32):
was no interaction for what I wanted my order to
be in the exchange of a person.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Well, that scene, and there's a lot of stuff I
want to I know, we don't have like forever to talk.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
We can talk because I like these I like dissecting,
and to me.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
That's what makes this show interesting. And so like, if
you're like a.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
If you're want of these niggas who like if you
like a Drake fan who doesn't like here we Go,
if you want of these niggas on podcast mics that
talk about like they want to think about no song,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Want Like this probably is not for youau.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
This is this show is like there's a lot it
makes you think sociological and think in a way that
not just the plot of it. Yeah, there's a mystery
of like what's going on, but the thinking is really
the sociological experiment of what this show represents right. But
in that scene, the thing that I thought was the
most interesting is that Carol is anti all of this shit, right,

(48:25):
She's anti everything until that thing can't get her what
she wants. And when she and not only does she
get what she wanted, she got it immediately. She said,
oh how long? Will I just need to know when
I need to come back to the store and the
late and Zosha was like, come back from be there
in a second. And but this is where it's like

(48:45):
one of the themes here is like capitalism versus socialism. Right,
the whole community Carol said, I want this, I need this,
I need food. The whole community instantly pulled up two
hundred people, popped out trucks, and put that whole store
together in a couple of hours, and now Carol had
everything she wanted.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
So it's like it reminds me of the hypocrisy and
individualism that we experience with like, Okay, you want to
stand for something, right, but as soon as it kind
of impacts and y'all know this is me, Actually I'm
very much hypocrit Like goddamn, yeah, we blacks and we
boycotton boycotton target. But when mtvs. Are a little less

(49:27):
than they are everywhere else. I'm gonna just go get
this because I want to save somebody.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Because I had this money is fine.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I need this and it's something that's working for me
in a moment that I'm supposed to be standing for something.
So Carol, do you stand for something but benefit from
it when it matters to you? Only because yeah, you're
you're kind of contributing to what the system is right now,
but you're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Be fighting against right against it.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
And she's the whole thing is she's fighting all of
these She's fighting all of these dualities right like even
in like Carol is a miserable person, but she writes
fantasy for other.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
People to be happy.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
She's miserable when this all thing, when this whole thing happens,
these eleven people are all happy, but she goes like
I call her Karen Carroll because that at that at
that conversation on Air Force one telling them what they
need to do, and she's trying to tell the Indian LA,
that's not your child.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
She's like, bitch, that is my child, Like who the
are you?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I also really love that in terms of and so
far we where we're at in the show, we haven't
met the other people because they don't speak English.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I really love how in the Karen way, she's the
only white woman and everyone else for people of color,
everybody else, and she's now trying to tell all of
these people of color they need what they need to
do because what she thinks is the right way, and
every which way they think is the wrong one.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
What would make her happy, happy, should make should make happy?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Twist into it.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
I would I agree with what your but I also
think that she feels that way because her life pre
the virus, it was a microcosm of that, right, Like
she was she was trapped where like her fans of
her book writing, they were the virus like zombies. Right,
she was doing something that she didn't enjoy because, like
Mandy said, like she's a lesbian, she's writings, she was closeted, right,

(51:21):
So it's like so then when it happens, it's like
on a huge scale that she sees it around the
world and she I think, she's like, this is my life.
This is a bit like we have to stop this.
Everybody the world can't be like what I'm suffering from.
And I think that's so I think, like what we've
seen in the early parts of the show, it's like
she's clearly traumatized and she's seeing that and and but

(51:41):
the casting and the way that they set it up
really makes it look problematic because she's the white woman
who wants to speak to the English speaking people.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
But I think it's I think it's interesting.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
And there's like so many overlapping kind of themes of
like choice and technology and even like the idea of.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Not an standing the consequences of your asks.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
That part I wanted to get to too, or even
of your actions.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
Like the show is called pluribus, right, and the essence
of that is out of many one plurbis one. And
so the idea is that everything that we do as
individuals affects the world, right, And this has been talking
about on it Really it made me think about mister
Morale and the Big Steppers, and it made me think

(52:27):
about Most Death Black on both Oh.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yeah, oh yeah, maybe it made me thinking of Matrix.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Okay, so.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Most Death Black on Both Sides came out in nineteen
ninety nine. There's a song on an album called Fear
Not of Man, And in that song and I think
it's in the beginning of the song, before he even
starts rapping, he's talking and he's like, people always asking
me about hip hop, where's hip hop going? Where's hip
hop going? And his response is, hip hop is going
wherever we're going. If we happy, hip hop is happy.

(52:58):
If we're healthy, hip hop is healthy. If doing the
right thing, hip hop is doing the right thing. It's
about us reflecting the world. This is what we this
is what we want to do, you know, be the
change you want to see, that type of thing. Mister
Morale in The Big Steppers is the whole album is
based off this guy at car Toole, who's in the

(53:18):
album as like Kendrick's therapist, and the whole concept of
et car Tole is like one person reflects the society.
Each of us individually reflects society. What we're going through,
our traumas reflect society. The things that we're trying to
change reflect society. And so this whole show is kind

(53:38):
of centered around that whole kind of idea. Carol loses
her temper, sixteen million people die. She thought she was
just losing her temper for herself. It impacted all of
these people that she had no idea about didn't really
even give.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
A one peer the one Pier gave the example. She
was like, my husband was driving driving and did that
crash and he died, and you thought because of you.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
So like you can point all of these fingers as
saying you're doing this, you're doing this, you're doing this.
You are part of the problem too, which is crazy
because being an individual, well, and we've.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Talked about that in terms of climate change, global warming,
we've talked about it in terms of where you purchase
your clothes, because if you care about the children overseas
that are working for pennies a day, why do you
keep buying fast faction the Apple iPhones that we use,
like it's the technology, but if it makes your life better.

(54:36):
Sometimes again, you don't even view yourself as a part
of the problem. You just want to find the bits
of happiness, which is also why I call it subjective, right,
But again, the things that you're partaking in, you don't
understand the harm that it's causing elsewhere. And I didn't
actually draw that parallel, but yes, you're very right.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
And so part of the thing is like what as
a society, what are we willing to accept for our convenience,
warm on sneeds whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Can we go down those lists with us?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Like, what is one of the.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Things that you do that you enjoy doing that you
know may be causing harm elsewhere?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Alcohol? Yeah, what do you mean by that? Every weekend
I go to a bar.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
Every bar has a parking lot, and all those parking
lots have cars in them, and all the people who
are in those bars are gonna go get in those.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Cars and drive away. We a society expect everyone in
that bar to drink.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Either either don't drink it all, drink enough to know
your limit, be responsible with this dangerous thing that you have.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Or call a car and don't get in that car.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
But everyone in there, everyone who's drinking, regardless of whether
we think they should be, what their level are, Everyone's
gonna get in there.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I will say, it's such a Southern mindset like it's been.
It's been the selective ignorance down here that I hate
the most. Because I still don't have a car. I
live very New York. Down here in Atlanta, I'd uber everywhere,
and when I go out with my friends, you already
know I'll make us super nigga, leave your car at home,
come park at my house if we're gonna go out,

(56:08):
and if you're too lit when we get back to
my house, you could say the nights you I'm not
getting in a car with niggas who even drink. Even
the other day, like, uh, we went out and Crystal
had her Tesla, and I was mad as that she
came anyways, because when you go out to one place
with me, you really end up at three. It's all night,
and it's all night thing and we're gonna be drinking everywhere.
But literally we got in the car and I was like,

(56:28):
and I was like, no, she good. She literally didn't
even finish with a boxa soda. That's that was her
only drink. I was like, okay, well maybe if we
do shots, if we do more than one drink, I'm
not getting in the car with you.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
And that's the thing like I've always had, like a
I would used to have. Well, I don't really drink. Honestly,
most I drink with y'all. By the way, you don't
even know meaning it's not an extraordinary mind.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
That night I bought a bottle. We would out bought
a bottle these we closed. It wasn't legend. Shout out,
shout out, this was this was way weekend up music.
After the second After the second night, we end up
going out to my favorite spot, m c K. We

(57:22):
get a table, my friend buying bottles and buy bottles
because I said, no, we need a table. We go out. Baby,
we had a tom But I'm not gonna lie drink
way too much.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
But again it's like drink way too much.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
But that's the thing about it. But I'm saying, but
the O, but the hog. But the bigger, the bigger
picture of it is is that society we've accepted that.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Some people are going to get d u y. Some
people are gonna die every single year.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
Having a good time, families, kids, dogs, People are going
to die and d UIs every single year. Guaranteed me,
every single day. Society is not ever going to say
we're going back to prohibition. If you had a vote
to say we're going back to removing alcohol, it will
unanimously get shot down by everybody because no one's going

(58:19):
to give up their alcohol. And how many people die
of DUIs, Well, what's that number that you're willing to accept.
Charlie Kirk got himself in a lot of trouble after
he died because he said that comment about the Second Amendment.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
He said, I think it's worth it to have this
price for certain people to die.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
And people are mad about that, And I understand it
because it's a different topic a little bit and people
are sensitive to that concept. But what he was saying
what I'm what I'm what I'm hearing when he says that,
is that that doesn't just apply to guns.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
That applies to a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Just the value proposition against against.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Decisions, And like, how many people? What is that number?

Speaker 6 (58:56):
Like the same way you say everybody has a price,
every we're all accepting a certain number.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
What is that number of people that something to be
happy that we like? What's your happiness for us? Do
we want to do?

Speaker 8 (59:09):
What?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
And what is that number? Is it fifty thousand people?
Is it one hundred thousand people? Is it five million?

Speaker 6 (59:15):
The number the number that we don't have to know about,
because that's why we're going the dog and we go
and bodies think we know about the factories, but we
still go and shot and go and do this.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
You don't, you don't, you don't leave the store pain,
you don't have no you don't leave the store in shame.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
You're not hiding your iPhone. The article ain't in that moment,
you're like damn, damn.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
But there's still but there's still a tension within those decisions.
And that's what makes like the like the world that
we live in versus like the show where there's like
it's just it's just all clear from the.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Gates, everything exactly.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
You don't have to worry about it. What it's like
with us like influences like should I buy this or not?
Should I have that third drink or not? Are we
going to do shots or not?

Speaker 1 (59:53):
And you influences and that is the choice. But this
is a way to put it right, Joah. Roughly twelve
to fourteen thousand people a year die in alcohol impaired crashes.
Would you stop drinking to save if you knew your
drink your drinking ability could save twelve to fourteen thousand

(01:00:16):
people a year? Would you stop drinking today?

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
See? Okay, Okay? I think and I think that that's
the interesting part because when we talk about this idea
of world peace and coming together as one in humanity,
when we really dig deep into what are what makes
us happy and our individualism. It's why I don't believe
we can never meet come to a place of world

(01:00:40):
peace because and I love the reality and you being
real and the fact that yeah, nah, twelve to fourteen
thousand people, I don't know them, niggas. I want to
have a drink.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I want to have this Hennessy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
It's gonna make me feel Goodah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I want this represent real quick for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
And I mentioned it earlier Fast Fashion as mine. For sure,
y'all have heard me be ignorant hell to say, I know,
I know a kid made this T shirt. This is
she Ian, bitch. I know a kid was slaving away
for the T shirt. And in terms of child labor,
h if I stopped buying from she and Fashion, no bizarre,

(01:01:22):
these kids might have a better life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
No no, because someone else will.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
But also that might be the only means of them
to make money, even if.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
It's get that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I mean, that's what I'm saying, whether it's five cents
or not. The way we view child labor here in
the States is different than other people, which is the
same way if you if you really want to draw parallels,
same thing with no monogamy, polygamy and polyamory and other
parts of the world are viewed drastically different than how
we view it here in the Western hemisphere. Before we

(01:01:52):
go ahead just makes me sound even more.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
No, just in the concept of the movie, the series.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
Now the episode you mentioned you had difficulty with the
cleaning services.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Uh last week, last right last? But would you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
Would that be part of you want a bunch of
people say hey, Mandy, we're gonna clean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
We know you want, so we're here to clean your apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Lie, I've already said I would want to be a
part of taking advantage of everybody advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
But you don't want to be What does that mean?
That means you're the I'm worse than.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Maybe maybe maybe the way that we be outside season two,
the way we be out a method man, give me
some dick, run run it up. But that's what that's.
No one can say no to me, bro clean my

(01:02:53):
house like And I guess that's where again the the
idea to of of humanity to me and especially as
a woman, is the right for us to have a
choice to say no, is the right to be actually
what we want to do, not what someone else wants
us to do. And it's it's very interesting to watch

(01:03:13):
this too, because it's kind of again, what we see
that French character do and where our mind goes is
essentially no different than what we what happened for four
hundred years with slavery, you know, like they didn't have
the choice to say no, I don't want to do this,
but they were at the mercy of what someone else wanted,
whether it be crops.

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
Whether it be cleaning, whether it be But that's an
interesting example because it sucks up both sides. It does,
like it not only fuck up like the people who
are experiencing it, but the people who are making those
decisions throughout the four hundred years. They're all fucked up,
which is why.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
To me it was interesting because there's a battle with
Carol being the Karen of wanting to change it back
to what society was, and because there is a toggle
to where wait, this isn't right, but yes it is
a better world, but is it really? Because now these
people don't have choices.

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
So so look, let me land my like my matrix
point real Q like you bringing it up, but like
the matrix, so been in the matrix there was an
example about like the world and they were doing and
so it's like the first time they did it, it
was all perfection and people were unhappy. It was the
same things, world peace, you don't have to worry about murders,
and people found unhappiness and that because they didn't have choice.
So then he went like the complete opposite the architect,

(01:04:21):
and he made it like war, famine and like and
and again with that like that that people were just
as unhappy. So then they found it someplace in the
middle where they had choice, right, and so like even
if you have a semblance of choice, it's like, you know,
it could be such a minimum thing where it's like
what I wear today, and you know some some people
have other means and they have bigger choices.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
But it's it's it's somewhere in between.

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
And I think it's funny to call her to Karen,
and there is like Karen behaviors in it. But also
but I think she's fighting for the idea of like
let's have choice. Like when she says like, that's not
your family, because her children will listen to everything she
says with no qush back her husband, our husband will listen,
and that so it's like everybody they don't have a
ch so now you're dealing with people who don't have choice,

(01:05:05):
and that's not real either. I think that's kind of
like her pursuit more than's.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
But I think that there's an inherent idea that like,
we value choice, value, but we value.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
That's not We're in a democracy where we believe we
have a choice, and even who correct.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
And I would even say we value the emotion behind
the idea of choice, because sometimes they don't even really
have a real choice.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
And what that's the part I was going to get
to is that we we value choice, but we also
see choice as the happiness we do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
And choice does not have to be the happiness. Choice
can be the thing that funcks you over.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Well, yeah, because you could. There's right and wrong, wrong,
choose choose wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
Someone else has a choice too. You do something and
that someone else reacts to I ran down. I ran
down on the guy or the home Depot van pulled
up on him. It wasn't him, right now, I okay,
I made that choice. He could have made a choice.
He could have made a choice to be like, who the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Fuck is this?

Speaker 8 (01:06:05):
Like this?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
And it just castays down.

Speaker 6 (01:06:08):
That guy gets out the car tries to shoot me,
but he misses, he hits somebody across the street with
a bullet because of them all, because I went down
there confronting him. He made a choice. Then his choice
affected that person over there should to do what was
going on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, it's tricky if you haven't seen it, because when
the series ends, and I do hope Apple TV is
not really or they are notorious for seasons not going
very long over there, which I don't know why because
we all got these Apple phones. I don't know why
I hate the series that are six or but because

(01:06:45):
it's from the creator, Like I said, Breaking Bad and
Better Cross Sault shout out to Vinci.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Are you expecting a plot twist?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
I am expecting. I am expecting that this show kind
of like, what's the one I really like, you know,
what's what's the guy that I really with? The black
guy at the end of the world. Oh, that is
already locked into a season two that I went, Oh,
you're talking about Sterling h Sterling K.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
Brown on Hulu Hulu Sterling K Come on Journalism, Jason Paradise, Paradise.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
So what I'm hoping is that season two for this
has already been written and they're just they just need
agree like to where they go straight into because what
I'm also hating is like the fact that Stranger Things
just released, but released what three years later?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Like Jesus Christ, especially with show this one thing. If
the show is just kind of like I'm getting into
that too, I want to talk about but.

Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
It showed it like this that has like deep things unpacked,
Like you can't give us six episodes and expect us
to get the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
We need to be more good.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
I think the good thing is they're TV people doing it.
They're not like movie people. Yes, Plara, shooting and doing TV,
which is what you're busy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I'm excited by this. Uh And celebrities say the darnest things, y'all.
I'm the celebrity apparently. So a couple of weeks ago,
of course, Rory, my good friend Rory, who I'm not canceling.
So and I'm not gonna sit here and go through
why people were trying to cancel him. It's a couple
of weeks old now. But so when I guess, I

(01:08:19):
don't know what they thought they were doing. I don't
know if they were warning me or blackmailing me. But
I got sweat out it was weird. I got emailed
my tweets from twenty eleven through twenty thirteen, and they
clearly decided to search the word blacks and black women.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
And that's so that's going to be the highest search
thing in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
The Twitter over the next over the next month. If
you spoke about blacks or black women and you are
a black person, they are coming to see what the
fuck you had to say. Now, because I am me,
I am she, I am going to read some of
these tweets or you know what, maybe I'll have Jason

(01:09:02):
read them so that I can respond. And this is
kind of a mix of celebrities say the darness things
but also double down or take it back, and so
you will in real time see me double down or
take it back with explanations.

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):
So so they emailed you, They emailed me a number
a number of tweets. Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
It was seven seven tweets with just question mark as
a subject line. That's the part the strange shout out
to gena abuse. So me and Gina was talking about
all this ship what was happening. So I sent her
this email that bitch found that nigga cash app all

(01:09:48):
the things because I got your email. So we were searching.
His name is Joshua. I forgot the last name, but
any who, we found your cash out nigga, And what
are you doing this for? I don't know if you're
a fan or oh, but suck my dick from the back. Anyways,
I am going to now double down or take it back.
And then I do want to lean into y'all because
we've all been a part of black Twitter kind of

(01:10:09):
what this timeframe of tweets was, what it means to
actually change or evolve or stay the same. So go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:10:16):
A tweet from Mandy May fifth, twenty seventeen. I read
the comment. I read the comments, often black women, the spies,
black men with any women lighter than them, dot dot
dot double.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Down, dug, bro, it's still happening. And this was twenty seventeen.
The other ones are all like twenty eleven to twenty thirteen.
Uh yeah, black women hate to see black men with
any black black women. Okay, don't saynes okay, So joh,
how about this one? Joah.

Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
August fifteenth, twenty thirteen, ten to fifteen in the morning,
Mandy thought, this is crazy. My preference in women isn't
black women? But lawd, do I have my exceptions? Dot
dot dot you like lips?

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Okay, now here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
This one sounds bad.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Bad, she said her prep she doesn't what I like
hast covered, which is because my preference.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
And men is only black men now at this time.

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
She's like, the whites with the long hair wouldn't know
better than the NBA player.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
You ready, you played for the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Nigga, you want to know what's funny?

Speaker 8 (01:11:31):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I just talked about that, and you know I had
I had a threesome this year with my first white
woman with an NBA player, and I told him, I said, nigga,
not you making me my first white Yeah, but I
don't like white women experience.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
If you want.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
She was kind of fun, she I was gonna say,
she probably knew what to do with that mouth. Yeah,
it was nice. It was cute. Uh would I do
it again? And it wouldn't be my preference, you know,
but if it happens, it happens. I'm double down and
taking this back because only because this was from twenty thirteen,
my preference now is only black women. I really don't

(01:12:17):
no pink nipples. Yeah, I like the little butter Scotch.
But you know, all of my women that I've dealt
with in the past five six years plus have all
been black women. Let's go back to pre like just
a couple of days before Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
That's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Twenty eleven, eight thirty six in the morning, Joah, when
the coal out of eye.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Right in a tooth brush? What I say, talk and shit?

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
She said our quote she threw.

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
The quotes around this are quote unquote black girls still
throwing shade at black men for dating white, white skinned women.
Rose Eyes waits for valid response. Why did you put
black girls in quotes?

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Trump?

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
What did you about? That?

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Very clear? Because I included light skinned women. So the
quotes around the black girls were the darker skinned women
who also lean into I don't want to say reverse colorism,
but they line up to with the light skinned black
women who also go with black men. Right Like there's

(01:13:25):
wars between Okay, are you dark skin, brown skin, light skin?
Like the colorism of the spectrum. Sometimes light skin black
girls get grouped into oh, he's only with you because
you're light skin and maybe and I don't know. Again,
This is from twenty eleven, twenty thirteen. I don't know
what was on the timeline that was like why is
this a thing? And I've always questioned like why is

(01:13:47):
this a thing? And to be fair, it's been questioned
about me, like where women have told me, oh, but
you don't count as a black girl because you're biracial
or you real light skin, or so there's been conversations
about me saying, oh, I'm black and this man is
dating a black Yeah, but you like skin. So to me,
it's just still questioning things. I do want to get
into the ones that I absolutely double down on and

(01:14:10):
don't understand why fourteen years later there is still questions
about it. So let's get into. Because you're you're going into,
you're reading ones that are all the same. I got
this one.

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
This next one feels a little I was gonna say,
speaking a mix this next one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
August tenth, twenty eleven. You see this one.

Speaker 7 (01:14:27):
But when I say I'm white, people completely ignore that
because I'm half black.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
But even now, black.

Speaker 7 (01:14:34):
People will walk around calling each other the nbomb all
day long in Bomb Man, that's like the white side
of EA and Bomb. But they want to get their
panties in a bunch when another race says it fuck
out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
The N word is overrated.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
In box side, people are so sensitive to things, which
is also crazy because if you go to literally another
tweet around that I'm talking about the in word, and
I say, it's sensitive ignorance, but also it's why I
don't allow any of my friends who are not black
to say it. You could read that verbatim. But there's
two around the same thing, which is crazy because clearly

(01:15:09):
my only tweets around blacks and black people and black
women are all about the same ship, which I'm doubling
down on the day to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Obama.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Still No twenty eleven, I was in Miami twenty eleven,
I was living saying.

Speaker 6 (01:15:31):
I'm trying to see what what might have been your
experiences on the social level that I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
I was in the club, but also you guys also
was So nigga is a word that know, all you
Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans shouldn't be saying. But then at
the same time, you have a lot of Afro Caribbean
people who don't know nigga is not a part of
their Nigga's an American word, and so it's just like

(01:16:00):
the N word was. And again, maybe to me at
the time, I'm not surrounded by Black Americans. Everyone using
it is everything but black American. So maybe at this
time I also maybe wasn't using the in word as
as fluently. I did live in Atlanta for a little bit,
and then I mean, my just whole circle is black people,
but growing up in Florida, No, I think everyone that's

(01:16:22):
using it isn't really African American.

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
I actually because sometimes when we tweet these things spec let's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Be very special experience moment.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
But at this time, in the moment, you see, they
was trying to say Obama wasn't black, So me, as
a biracial girl, they definitely was trying to say, which
is why even when I say I'm white. Maybe at
this time I even thought I could say that I
was white and you were like, you're You're like twenty one, No,
nineteen twenty twenty one. That's when these tweets are like, yeah,
maybe at the time I thought otherworldly as a biracial

(01:16:52):
I could identify as either or right now today, with
enough lived experience, no bitch, I'm black. I'd have lived
in Singapore. I done went abroad. I didn't even have
a passport while I was tweeting these, you know what
I mean. I got my passport when I was twenty
two years old. So this is the ignorance of me
being in America, living in Florida, where most people are
not African American. Like, if you're black, oftentimes your family's

(01:17:14):
from Haiti or Jamaica or the islands. Like, it's just different,
and they don't identify as African American. They identify as
the island that they're from. So that's where this comes from.
By the way, the other two tweets is what I
wanted to get into. If you don't mind buck using
the N word as much, I want to get into
the other two things the light girl first tweets, first tweet,

(01:17:37):
second line, Let's get into it because this is still
my goal and I haven't done a really good job
at it. Let's get into these two things that are
still an issue within our community.

Speaker 7 (01:17:48):
I'm make it my goal in life to teach black
people how to tip.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Oh yeah, let's get and then hashtag. I'm just saying
this probably comes from me being a bartender, me being
a server because that's not good at this time. And
do you know how embarrassing it is to work in
an atmosphere around other people of other colors and hear
them talk about us to where they don't want to

(01:18:14):
serve you. They don't care to give you that much
of good service because there is a stereotype that it
doesn't matter how good the service is, how above and
beyond I go. Black people don't tip. And I hated
that I was experiencing that at the hands of my
own people, because I wanted to believe that this is

(01:18:35):
just a stereotype. And I don't like that my coworkers
are saying the same thing. And unfortunately, and it could
be a socioeconomic thing, right, I get that sometimes you
make just enough to finally enjoy a meal outside and
you don't consider that tipping is a part of that part.
And so again I'm gonna blame the socioeconomic oppression that

(01:18:55):
has ravaged our community. However, however, still in twenty twenty five,
when was this sweet? This was twenty eleven, twenty eleven,
April sixteenth, damn it, fourteen years later, you niggas still don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Know how to tip. Yeah, I listen, we see it
all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
Yeah, we've had arguments about this amongst unnamed coworkers, but
like we talked about this in the office, just shooting
and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
It's like damn like.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
There was there was one of our coworkers in particular
that was just adamant about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Like, that's not my problem. Second, you see what I mean.
I was like, yeah, you're right, I'm paying for the fool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Okay, so they take your ass through McDonald's drive through,
but go if you were gonna take it to go,
If you're gonna sit down and receive a service, there
needs to be a tip.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Well also, which I also find interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
I don't know if y'all saw on Twitter last week
they uploaded a blank receipt and we're literally asking how
much tip do you live leave? It was like hundred
and thirty one dollars and some change, And it was
interesting to see what people thought they should leave as
a tip. Now I go straight to mind you. I
was one hundred and twenty dollars and then I count

(01:20:10):
by fives based on that, so I was like, okay,
one thirty one, I'm leaving a twenty six dollars tip.
Then you had people that wanted to get into the change.
The change is saying the same, I'm not doing yump
you're doing. But it was interesting to see like he's
leaving ten dollars on it, like the idea of even
the percentage that should be left based on what you're spending.

Speaker 7 (01:20:33):
We still don't know, Like maybe it's selective ignorance, bad
bad service with bad service, Mandy, do you load chip
or no?

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Low tip? They ten percent percent? That's my low tip.
If it's really bad service, you didn't come check on
the table I sat there was drinking air because you
refuse even I don't I don't know tip, but at
ten percent tip when.

Speaker 6 (01:20:59):
Here's the thing for me, it's like with tipping, even
with the socioeconomic part of it, right, like which which
is a fair thing to say though, because okay, I
get that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
What are you gonna do with the eight dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Put it towards something else?

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
What are you gonna do with the ten?

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
Like I can see if it if the tip had
to be something crazy and you're like, I'm not paying
double the amount of this object. But it's like if
you could buy a five hundred dollars dinner, then you
can afford one hundred dollars tip.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
But I'm even talking about say the fifty dollars dinner
you're leaving three dollars should be ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
But that's that's the same. But are you are you
that hard press for the ten bucks? Are you gonna
do with the I.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
Think people, I think I think people walk in and
they just know they're not gonna tip.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
But they're just trifling and they're just like, no matter.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
What they do, like, I'm keeping my money to give you,
no extra money, and that's what you just pay thirty
five dollars for margarita that cost three dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
But the stereotype is that it's us doing it. Yeah
and so, and by the way, stereotype white people are tricky.
Y'all know who tips the most? Let me ask y'all
who let me who do y'all think tips the most?
I think it's either white men or Latin men. Nope, women, Okay,

(01:22:19):
by the way, it's not a color, you ready, it's women,
the gays a gay wait, wait, gay doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
The color could be Latino. I worked gay nights. I've
been my lived experience, my lived experience, and also just
other bartenders who may even be straight. I know straight

(01:22:41):
straight men that will go fucking bartend and boxers, that's
just one of the ones I know in New York.
But gay men, especially if you're quick, funny, look attractive,
you're just gonna get so much more tips, like and
they just they do the least bitch they want a
Bokasota like maybe a fucking surely niggas could be ordering
Shirley Temples and they're gonna tip like. Gay men doesn't

(01:23:05):
matter the color, are the best tippers out there. And
then maybe if you're in fine dining, then sure, white
men or I'm not even gonna say white men, I'm
gonna say business cards. If you know that it's a
business meeting and it's going on on the business, then
you're gonna get tipped well or over. But to me,

(01:23:26):
all the gay men tip the best.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
That's interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
I mean, I guess there's a level of selective ignorance
that I could apply to that and say do for
for gay men outside of being accosted for your sexuality,
I feel like for a lot of gay men, perhaps
the worst thing you could be is raggedy.

Speaker 7 (01:23:49):
Or be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
What's the word I'm looking for, like not have couse
or not know how to treat people, or not know
how to.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
Conduct yourself toward others that maybe they feel like I'm
not going to be that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Maybe and I don't know the answer, but going to
call me when I tell you gay men like you're
not gonna do that? They tip the best, they tip
the best. And then here's another one. The last one.
There was a joke there about the tip and gay
man that no, I mean, honestly, just as long as
you add comedians to your bio, you can you know,

(01:24:26):
you can literally say whatever you want to. Go ahead,
and did you make that change? If you want to
read that? That second one on the bottom, this is
another one I am doubling completely down on.

Speaker 7 (01:24:37):
Is this the thirty minutes late and still the first
bitch here? Yes, I damn black people.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
What is we still use CP time and black people
are doubling down on being late? So yes, I have
a problem with the fact that I showed up somewhere
thirty minutes late and still was the first bitch there.
And it clearly was a black swell rat it was
our people. It was an event hosted ran by our people.

(01:25:05):
Is it late if there's such a thing as CEP time,
And we all see what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
I don't like I don't like that we like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
This is a question, that's just a question. The way
I learned it, No, no, no, the way that I
learned it heavily in Atlanta, Georgia. Here's the thing. When
And y'all know I like industry shit. When you when when?
When there's an event going on in New York, Oh, baby,
you better be there before or open a lot. Seven

(01:25:31):
means seven in New York. It's going to be crazy
the whole sidewalk. And everyone thinks they're important, and so
they walk right up to the front and it gets chaotic.
So if there's an event, specifically an industry event, if
it's say seven o'clock, you better be already pulling up
about six fifty to make sure New York on time
and it ends on time, because baby car, it's done now.

(01:25:53):
But and there'll be somewhere where the overflow goes next, right,
I realize now. And Atlants, if you show up on
time here, you're gonna be helping set up Hold on,
hold on. If an event starts at seven, the door
is not even gonna open till seven forty five. Yeah, Like,
but on the fire since seven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Don't get a fucked by what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
So I've caught myself being like and mind you, I'm celebrity,
I'm supposed to show up fashion me. No, I'm the
first one there, Like niggas are still blowing balloons, right,
And I'm like, oh wow, so here it's bothering me
that when I see an event that says they start
at seven or eight, I gotta show up at ten.

Speaker 6 (01:26:37):
And you gotta tell people, you gotta tell no, there
starts at seven thirty. It starts at eight thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
No, you ready here? Just everyone is showing up three
hours late. So imagine the events like that really have
to end at a certain time. Bro, everyone's showing up
for the last thirty minute. Nobody's here for the whole event.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
What's punctuality drilled into you as a child?

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Like what took a question?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Were you?

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
Because my girl is like that, she's an event producer, right,
and she's like very much about like this goes in
this sequence, it's time, this is doors, this is this
is this is this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
I'll be honest with you. I think it came from
a I believed in. I mean, most of us as millennials,
thought we would be rewarded for perfect attendance and shit
like that, right, But for me, when kids came in
late to class, which I was always really big with
my studies, my academia, it bothered me that if people

(01:27:30):
walked in late, they disrupted the entire class. So it
was the disruption I just it ingrained into me that oh,
you disrespectful. You think this is on your time? You
know what time it starts. We've already gotten into curriculum.
And now fuck everybody here that showed up on time
because you chose to be late. We all got to
stop what we're doing the lesson. The teacher has to
address you. You're now pulling out your desk, making all

(01:27:53):
the noise. Even if we try to, even if we
try to ignore you, you're still disrupt And so to me,
I've just my entire life I've viewed it as a
sign of disrespect. But also as someone who took pride
in showing up on time and being present, I always
felt like, what makes you think you don't have to

(01:28:15):
show up on time? Why? And to me it was
always just again back to the individualism that a lot
of us have. To me, I just always view it's
funny because the people listening, like when we have meet
and greets and when we've done things for decisions, decisions,
they be like, Steitch, be on time. They know I
don't like shit, just like why are you late? And

(01:28:36):
so for me, I've genuinely viewed it as a sign
of disrespect. I literally just had to have a conversation
with a friend to where I brought it up in
therapy and I was like, this, We've been friends for
I don't know, fifteen years or so, and I'm like,
she's never on time, and a part of me is
starting to despise and feel like I can't be friends
with her because there's no way she respects me as

(01:28:57):
a person because every time we're together she's late.

Speaker 6 (01:29:02):
Count Ever, ever, my mom says that a lot thatspect,
but you don't give a fuck. She said, come early
and wait on me because I'm gonna be on time, right,
especially late, because then what you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
What I mean, because then what is it? And so yeah,
for me, for me, that's that, and I just hate
that within our community specifically, which is why I'm doubling
down on these two tweets that we have the stereotype
that we don't tip, which means we don't respect service
or good service. But guess what, We're gonna beat up
first and the loudest to complain when the service ain't good,
you know what I mean? And then for me, yeah,

(01:29:37):
not not respecting people's time. I think that's the bare minimum.
Showing up on time is the bare minimum of what
you should expect from another human being, and I don't
think we show ups that way. Everything else was yeah,
me talking about the N word and black women and
black men not liking black women, which is also the
craziest thing that I do want to say about this
entire thing. You know who has the most to say

(01:29:59):
about black women on the internets on Beyonce's Internet, black men.
So the fact that black men who also had history,
the black men who also had the history I'm talking
down on black women being mad at Rory for saying
it about black women. I was just like, bro, we

(01:30:20):
went like Jay's with the pots calling the kettle black.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Yeah, I mean I was just like a lot of
the group chest that. I mean a lot of black
women were bringing up that same thing. They were looking
at the names of the people who was like cursing
Rory out and talking about and was looking at them
like you got a weird case. Yeah, yeah, you got
a weird case. Remember writing the pandemic, right, that is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
You know, facts facts, So to me it was just
it's just interesting, like what what is it? Don't throw
rocks and houses?

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Oh yeah, but if you were.

Speaker 7 (01:30:59):
Black people, that's up phrases too. In a tweets you
can bring that up a few things.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
We're gonna up your phrase and we're gonna add on that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
No, no, no, no, I hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Mind you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
I'm from Orlando. It's the Orlando magic, not Magic's in oxtail.
As a Jamaican, there's no planting like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
And I'm not jamaking either, but may.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Pissed me, but yeah, like so for me, like in
terms of everyone having an opinion, cool, you could have it.
But if you've been a perpetrator of what you're trying
to be the holy grail around the way.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Shut the fuck up, Joshua. We'll send you that emails.
By the way, got question mark.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Anyone wondering if I responded to this email? I did,
and I said, Oh, you thought you ate with this? Huh?

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Did he respond?

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
No, he didn't because he realized he was hungry. He
did not eat. In fact, with this email. He was starting,
in one fact, searching for more tweets from somebody. But
also MTV maybe spent two hours deleting twenty pages of
tweets already, So if you wanted to get me, you
should have gotten me before I had an MTV show,
because boy, they scrubbed that shit and I was embarrassed.

(01:32:11):
Mind you, while I was reading it, I was like,
bitch y'all said that, like dead ass. I was like,
I said that, But to me, tweets, Twitter anything a
decade ago. Bro. Again, the way we're talking about the
sensitivity of the society we live in and the way
that we're all educating and learning and growing. Again, if
you've been fans of horrible decisions, there's been knowledge that

(01:32:34):
I've learned about different layers and levels of sexual assault.
Like stealthing was something I learned in twenty seventeen. I
didn't know back at twenty twelve when a nigga removed
the condom on me that I had been sexually assaulted.
That is a crime. That now you could go to
jail for and so to me, if we're all learning
as we're getting older, we shouldn't be holding people to

(01:32:56):
the fire, allowing growth to happen, you know, allowed for
us to evolve. Because that's also the the dope thing
about humanity and choice right is the fact that we
do get to change our minds, our thoughts, our views,
our opinions. It gets to change. We get to evolve,
and we get to go to therapy. We get to
learn that the toxic relationships wasn't love, that was me

(01:33:18):
being fucking insecure with myself or not having self worth.
Like we get to do those things. So this idea
that we're gonna hold people to the fire on tweets
ten years plus ago, shut the fuck up. And Rory's
one of the best potters out there, So.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
I don't give a fuck. I'm you know, enough of
yourself accountability. Let's under the bush.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
No, no, no, no, no, We're not doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
Also as a speak of humanity, Marjorie Taylor Green, she's
kind of evolved, she's evolving as a politician.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
But I don't like this.

Speaker 6 (01:33:52):
I'm not gonna throw Rory under the bus, but I
am going to bring up Marjorie Taylor Green in relation
to this whole thing, right, And here's the problem. I
personally think that the bringing up old tweet thing is
whack a lot for a lot of reasons they don't
necessarily have to do with, like why you're bringing up
old ship like in these particular cases, like well maybe

(01:34:12):
Joshua is a whole other thing for you, but like
for the people that brought up killing the Cold Ship, right, yep,
these are people who are bringing these things up in
the self in defense.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Of some rich white lady. Literally in Rory's case, this
all came up over who's your rapper daddy?

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Literally, like this all came up.

Speaker 7 (01:34:36):
He brought it up in the spaces. Yeah, but it
came up because they were accusing him of like riding for.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Because he should get a Grammy.

Speaker 6 (01:34:44):
Yeah, and that's what I'm saying, Like to me, but
it let's be clear, there's a lot of ship going
on in hip hop though, okay, through the genuineness of
and again to your point, I hate when they do
that shit because yeah, I just think he should be

(01:35:05):
able to defend that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
But here's the problem.

Speaker 6 (01:35:07):
Here's to me, where he fucked up at and where
Marjorie Taylor Green comes into it, right when you go
into spaces, if you have that on your jacket, especially
if you're a white person and you're in this culture,
if you have that on your jacket, it is your
responsibility as a human being, as a white person, to

(01:35:30):
approach that situation seriously and hold that for real, for real,
hold that and don't be defensive about it. Don't scoff
at it. Don't you don't get to make jokes about it.
You gotta hold that. You have to approach that situation.
If you're going to offer an apology, you have to
offer a real apology. And it's like, if Marjorie Taylor

(01:35:52):
Green can offer a better fake apology than you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Can, you look crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Well his humor, I'll be honest, the way he responded
initially is exactly how I would responded. I would have
thought it was a joke, like y'all are really like,
which I think.

Speaker 6 (01:36:07):
You don't get to be white and do that exactly.
You don't get to be white and do that. You
just don't like That's just how it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
At least.

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
But I'm like, for a white man, I think I
think he could have handled it a lot, but I
think there was a way because it because it could
have I think maybe deprived.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
My thing is, here's the thing. You're damned if you do,
damned if you don't. Had he gotten on his knees
and begged for forgiveness for an apology. There's a lot
of people because it was a lot of niggas at
home in their mama basement yelling into the phone, like
to me, even how do you apologize out the gate?
There's still so many people that wouldn't have accepted the apology.
But he's still got to do it better.

Speaker 7 (01:36:47):
Like, and I'll say this, I've had nothing but like
positive interactions with like I don't know, I'm super well,
but I've obviously had But but still it's like, but
as a white dude in it regardless, like you have
to do a good apology because there's people to fuck
with you and people that like with you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
They like you, and you have to apologize to them.
For all the people who are gonna make noise about it,
they were gonna do it anyway. Yeah, And so like
it has to be legit and like super one.

Speaker 6 (01:37:11):
When you when a white personihilates a black person's trust.
There's only one way you can play that out, and
if you're gonna be cute about it, like because then
he came back on his pot and like gave a
real apology.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Right, so it's like that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Then apologies can be too late, so you're damned.

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
Like yeah, but but again, if you're a white person,
that's your If that's all the burden you gotta bears
that niggas don't fuck with you no more than whooped
the dude. Like, I think his mistake, his misstep rather,
is that he went on twitter space so quick.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
I think he should have.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
Gave some time to.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
His friend said don't get on that ship. And I
know Twitter spaces shout out to twitters people who do.
I like the idea, but.

Speaker 6 (01:38:00):
It just became a fine what they could get from
you to clip that ship up and go put it
on YouTube, put it on a page and say, ah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Hate it, I hate it. Anyway, let's get into before
we wrap up our am I ignorant segment?

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
We got a question, let's do.

Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
It, and I swear I didn't write this one, so
to get it here, it says uh oh so let's
go down.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Was it was to tell my aunt her political posts
make her look uneducated? Was it ignorant?

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Was it to tell my aunt her political post make
her look educated? So here goes.

Speaker 7 (01:38:37):
My aunt posts a lot of political memes on Facebook,
stuff that's clearly not accurate, but she shares them with
the captions like wake up sheep. Last week, one of
our posts want viral in the family group chat because
it claimed the politician had died and they hadn't. I
commented publicly, not privately, under her post and said, Auntie,

(01:38:58):
please fact check before spread stuff like this. It makes
you look uneducated. She deleted the post, then called me hollering,
saying I embarrassed her in front of her church and
coworkers who follow her. My cousins say that I'm a
laitist because my aunt didn't finish high school and quote
doesn't know better. Now the family says I'm the one
dividing people. So here's the question. Was I ignorant for

(01:39:21):
calling it out publicly or is everyone else ignorant for
ignoring the real issue.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Here's the thing, not sure how old John's is. Bitch.
Let them be great over there on the Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Let them.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
They believe everything that everything you gotta, you gonna let
these old people enjoy believing like this ship it is
agous but cool.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
I go, hold you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
I saw this one sore video like, and I didn't
realize it was AI till I went into the comments,
and mind you, I'm heavily on the internet. I'm getting
got by AI. Okay, so to me, mind you, we
kill all people on the internet and all the time,
and so for me, I don't I think that actually

(01:40:02):
you weren't ignorant for calling it out publicly, but you're
just not fun. Like, let the old people enjoy their memes,
their AI, their fake like people right now are having
a blast with seeing these things that they think are real.
They can't believe it. Wake up people. But also it's

(01:40:24):
happening to us, like, boy, does NBA Sententel get me
a lot?

Speaker 7 (01:40:28):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
But now they acting like the Simpsons almost Maybe they're
like predicting what's happening with the ship happening to me
if it's memes and specifically this one was a politician
who died and they hadn't We are in a space
where a lot of us are uninformed online and we
hit that retweet button real quick. If we all had

(01:40:56):
to research everything before we liked or commented or retweeted,
it would take an element job, it would. And so
I don't think it's ignorant for your aunt to just
share it. And I do think that you're ignorant and too.
Where we're at on the internet right now with Soura,
with chat chept, with AI think Groc. I don't think

(01:41:17):
Grock is over there on on us on Facebook, we
know that Groc.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
I'm surprised, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
So y'all don't know Grock. Grek is my side, niked
so chat, GPT is my husband, Grok is my side, niggad.
Groc is the AI feature that automatically will let you
know if something is uninformed, not right, will give you
a real link. And then if you were unaware of
what is happening from a tweet, you can literally at Grock, Hey, Groc,

(01:41:47):
explain to me what's going on, and Groc will give
you a breakdown of what's happening in the I don't
know if most of the time, and he'd be wrong sometimes,
but I just don't know if Facebook has that feature.
I don't know if people of a certain age know
that that feature exists. And so to me where we're at,
let the old folks have that they with with with

(01:42:07):
the auff you you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Look like you better than me.

Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
Listen, Auntie, I hate to break it to you. You
were You were embarrassed before the person said that before.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
You're No, this isn't the aunt ring.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
No, I'm talking about aunts high school.

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
You know what I'm saying is I'm saying that to
say is that you said this in a public form
amongst other people. Trust to believe you ain't the only
your your niece, ain't the only person that thought you
was ignorant and uninformed when you posted that. In that group,
somebody else that saw the dumb ship looked at it
and said, this is some dumb ship. Why she always
posting this dumb shit? You we all have a group

(01:42:44):
chat that we know somebody is posting something. It's like,
you know you're gonna post the dumb shit. So somebody
in that group was already looking at you crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
But we got to look at we as human beings,
how we project. So the the comment that went on
there was Auntie, please fact check before spreading stuff like this.
It makes you look uneducated. The fact that the other
cousin was like, you, you know, she didn't finish high school,
you must think you're better than her. The aunt responding
the way she did probably is because she feels a

(01:43:16):
bit uneducated as someone who didn't complete high school. Therefore,
that word uneducated is what pissed her off. It was
a trigger to her because she possibly actually feels like
she's uneducated as.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
Someone who didn't mean about sheep or about ghats or
about some ship that don't have If you're dumb a
man of steels just got finished telling us last episode,
have somebody around you who knows something, who can put
you in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
If you want to talk about frivol.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Needs somebody around her to grandma. Granted, Auntie needs to
anti rize.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
If you want to talk about some frivolous ship that
don't matter, You want to argue about basketball or.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Sneakers or kids were trying to get it matters all
the matter.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
But I'm saying like, if you want to argue on
the internet about some old like whatever ship that doesn't
mean nothing about nothing, go ahead and you can be
quote unquote uneducated or ignorant, and that shit really don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
To be fair, it is it was allegedly a politician
that had died. I will say nothing is stupid about
questioning anything regarding politics, no question, because.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Question every question, all of it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:27):
But I think there's a difference between a question and
just spreading something that you think something something false just
because you saw it and you jumped on it and
you thought that this was the thing, like we all
gotten got by or various things. So I don't think
it's a matter of like, don't get God, We're all

(01:44:47):
going to get got at some point, and.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
Y'all be quick to let me know when I got got,
like tweet me, like, girl, don't even real?

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Do you know?

Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
I saw a video yesterday of what was supposed to
be behind the scenes means of a of a national
geographic animal documentary, and it was literally, uh, a tiger
and a deer standing there in front of the camera
while director and production people behind it, and the director
says action, and the tiger runs and grabs the deer

(01:45:18):
and they run off screen and shot again this time
do this and he's given the tiger direction And you
thought it was real? No, hell no, but it looks
real as fu Yeah, the tiger's just sitting there waiting
for the deer and he picks the deer up in
his mouth and runs off screen. And it looks real
as hell, but I'm sure somebody got got.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Fake.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
He's a real aut.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
This in terms of Hurricane Melissa, when it went through Jamaica, Bro,
I saw more AI videos of sharks in the pool.
I was, I was like, damn, nigga, where the real
videos that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
It was a lot of AI.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Yeah, I don't think. I think. I think your ignorance
wasn't about calling her out publicly, but it was you ignorant.
Let let all people be old, let them have their fun,
Let them have their fun. Anyways, guys, uh, next week
you are in for a treat. We are doing our
year end wrap up. We go let me, y'all, y'all

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Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
You'll do some more writing for myself.

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