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September 16, 2025 • 60 mins

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Munday Night Football which saw Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defeat CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans and Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers dominate Geno Smith and the Las Vegas Raiders

Timeline:
00:00 - Bucs beat Texans
13:50 - Chargers beat Raiders
31:50 - Chiefs support Rashee Rice
36:44 - J.J. McCarthy injury
46:50 - Refs no-call on Eagles' Tush Push
53:38 - Defensive player of the Week
54:30 - Ocho calls out Deebo AGAIN!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to another episode of de Bo and Joe.
I am your host, James Debo Harrison, and I am
here with my co host, Joe Hayden. Make sure you
like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing that
we're talking about. Baby. How you doing today, Joe? I'm
doing good. De Bo? How about you? Man? You know
what I'm doing? Real good man. I can't complain. I

(00:26):
can't complain. Had we had us two real good games
last night, well, one real good game, I would say, yeah,
one on I'm saying late too, oh, super late, super late.
They doubling up. They making sure they're making sure they
get all all the time they need. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah. The Bucks went on ahead and beat

(00:46):
off the Texans. Dude by one point, dude, twenty to nine.
Watching this game, bro, Like the first quarter, I'm looking
at this thing, dude, and you got Houston. They just
run down there and go ahead and get a quick
tub man first to first drive, dude, two, nice little player.

(01:07):
I think Chubbs had a twenty five thirty yard short
pass that he took off on and then Collins you know,
twenty nine yard.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Tell you it was good to see Chub out there, man,
you know, yeah, getting back healthy, making those plays, catching
passes out the backfield. And then that that touchdown pass
that CJ. Straud through early to Nico Collins when he
tapped his feet was able to stay in bounds. That
was super impressive. So I thought it was gonna be
a high scoring game when it first started.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, then you got Tampa. They come back in there.
You know, Beaker do his thing. He kind of worked
his way kind of down the field. But they also
added that run game, dude. Like the run game really
really helped out a lot, especially when it got to
the whole outcome of it. I think they dominated time
of possession by like twelve fifteen minutes something something something
wold dude. So yeah, they run down and go ahead

(01:57):
and get seven. I believe it was one point though,
where dude, I had the ball in his hands, he
dropped it. What was the dude's name, I can't take
off his name right now. He would have had a yeah,
he would have. Yeah, I think I think he would
have had to pick, but he dropped it. Yeah, okay,
yeah yeah yeah. And then that that game, the opportunity
they put seven on the board. And then Houston come

(02:19):
back out. They driving down the field again, dude, but
you know they stall out because of the penalty and
they still get three. So you know, I'm like, I'm
sitting here, I'm wondering, is this going to be one
of them games where, like, you know, the defense is
not there, Tampa goes down again, hits another tuddy. So
I'm really trying, I'm really I kind of starting to

(02:40):
lose like interest in it, you know what I'm saying,
because it's just it's just back and forth. Man. I
hate watching football when the defense is just straight out
not stopping, not not they're underperforming like crazy, like it's
it just upsets me. Like I don't like scoring games.

(03:00):
I'd like to see your back, No, for sure. I
think that's the good thing about this one too. Like
we said at the beginning of the game, they spans.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
They started off both just driving the ball down score score.
Tampa scored I think on their first two possessions and
it was like fourteen to ten in the first quarter,
and then we got no more scoring really until the
end of the game about like the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know, when that stuff started getting tight or you
had you had I believe it was the end of
the Yeah, that was it. You're right right. They didn't
start scoring again until after after after they came out
in the second half, Baker was like, well, shit, Baker
and CJ was like one hundred and twenty something rating,

(03:43):
you know, in the first half in the beginning of eighteen, Yeah, dude,
Like I think Baker was like eighteen or thirteen he had.
CJ was maybe thirteen or eight thirteen to teen something
like that. It was. It was out of control. And
then they come back third third quarter and it's it
looked like it's going to be happening again, but they
going they missed a field goal. From there, they just

(04:06):
back and forth punts and I'm like, yeah, this is
my kind of game, right thousand and I'm thirteen, yeah, thirteen, fourteen.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Thirteen fourteen type good good defenses because you know, once
you once the game starts, you got to get your
feet wet. Once they popped off and scored on the
first two drives, them dudes started to had to settle
down because I'm looking at the end of the day too.
For me, the Tampa Bay defense, though they ended up
locking down, they ended up making plays when they needed to.
Remember when the Texans they had a fourth to one,

(04:35):
you know what I'm saying, they went for on the
goal line. That's changing the game. That's points. That's a
seven point swing. They didn't got. They got nothing there.
And then their special team stepped up. They got that
pump block. From the pump block, they were trying to
get points there they didn't get They I think they
might have got a field goal with no touchdown, but
just when their defense was.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
In they came out and stopped them. They right, they
saved them. They went on head, kept it, kept it close. Yep.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
But I just was liking that that that they was
able to go being able to bring their defense out there.
So Tampa, Tampa kind of played an overall pretty good game,
like running running, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Baker was doing this thing, and they had the defense
was making stops when they needed to. Yeah, for sure,
I mean you had you know when they when Tampa
punter at the ball Houston, you know, they come through
and they returned the thing like fifty three yeards and
all of a sudden, Nick Chubbs breaks one lose for
twenty five and the next you know, the next player.
I think they gave between me scored, you know from

(05:31):
the one and now you know it's three minutes left
something like that, and you done gave Baker the ball.
And what he did last week, it's the same thing
that he did this week. And the fourth and ten.
How do you not have anybody paying attention to him
on a fourth and ten, Bro, But.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
James, he had They had the empty they had the
d dB.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, Julie shot missed. I think DB's coming. There are
so excited and they forget that. They gotta they gotta
break that down. Yes, he's shooking, he's shooking loose. That
kept the driver live.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I was to play the game de bro, no question,
because the thirty ten before he threw it, Baker scrambled
out and threw a nice ball to my man number two.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Many kind of dropped it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So now it's four and ten with a minute and
something left in the game. If you get this, it's
a rap. And he was able to somehow escape out
of that pocket and scramble for fifteen.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
And they went eighty yards Bro eighty yards and eleven
plays on the on the last in the last three
minutes for the go ahead. Yeah, like that was that
was it? Two seconds left something like that. They walked
it down. They had this is the situation you want
your quarterback in. They had the ball, it was two
minutes and four seconds left at the twenty yard line.

(06:53):
They had three timeouts. Oh you're gonna get you got
to get in first draft. They dropped it. They dump
it off the irving before the two minute warning. Give
it to him. He gets twelve yards.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So now they're going in with a minute and fifty
six left, three timeouts and then first down, nothing really,
second down, nothing really, third down, he drops that over
route that could have been a big play number two,
and then fourth and ten for the game all the
marbles breaker scrambles gets up out of there for a
fifteen yard run for a first down Like that could

(07:22):
have been you know what I'm saying. The whole game,
it gets down to the point where everything happens through
the game.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Office does good, defense does good. We just wave the game.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
When you got two minutes and four seconds left on
the game on the clock, can you drive? Can you
drive it down and get us to win? Basically what
it was, And I just like the fact that game's
gonna be going waves and flows. But at the end
of the day, you got the ball in hands with
two minutes and four seconds, what you're gonna do and
all three timeouts, all three timeouts everything.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
You can't ask for nothing better than that. That's a
great it's a beautiful situation to be in. But there's
people that can lose it. And then like the end
of the day, when you come out and make the
plays he ran, you know what I'm saying, Getting the
ball to Urban.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
And it's not just you don't you don't make say
Baker go win, it's the game. Get it to the
guys that are gonna help us from the game. Get
it to Urban, you know what I'm saying. Let him
get open and let him make some plays. Get it
to Mike, Mike Evans, Get it to Shepherd, you know
what I'm saying, Like, you don't have to run the
ball around, run it around, give everybody a little touch,
you know what I'm saying. So I think that that
was just so that way it makes the defense. You know,
they can't just kill key In on the Evans all

(08:23):
the time.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You know, you got to you got to make sure
you got everybody covered, and you know, when he can
do that, and like I said, the ability for him
to go out there and make that first down went
I think it went for fifteen yards on a fourth
and ten, Like that's that's out of control. That's amazing.
Now you got Houston. What is they owing to now? Thanks? What? Like, like,

(08:45):
what's the what? What? What is it that Houston needs
to do to come out on top in these sort
of situations? What do you think they need to do? Man?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So Houston, like you said at the beginning of the game,
they started off hot. You know, I think Nick Chubb
doing some just being able to catch the ball out
of the backfield, Nego Collins making those great catches. You
know what I'm saying for the touchdown, I just think
it's a little more consistency. I think sometimes CJ. Strout,
I love c J Strout, This is not a CJ.
Strout bashing, but sometimes like a couple of third downs,

(09:19):
just air and throw you know, I'm ball, just.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Not thrown into the ground.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Where we need to be able to convert these first
downs and be able to extend drives like it's no
thing you can particularly put your hand on but I think.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think for me, I think they need to Well,
of course they got to convert third days. That'll keep
your offense on the field, that keeps your defense off
the field, so they're not on the field as long
being worred down. And then secondly, they have to be
more consistent, you know, with the run game. I think
they only had maybe seventy something eighty something yards whatever
it was, and twenty five of that came on you know,

(09:54):
just one of one carry. So I think they need
to be more consistent in the past and sorry in
the running game and getting it more involved. That way
they can open up more opportunities I think for the past. No,
I think that's that's that makes a whole lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
They weren't, like, like you said, Nick Chubb had twelve
carriers for forty three yards and one of the car
one carrier, So that's eleven for like twenty five yards.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
That's not going to really make anything shape.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, so we got to just get definitely get definitely
get more consistent in the run game. But I like,
I like Stroud, I just think that sometimes too, but
just getting just being able to make win on third
downs a little more often being able to extend those drives,
and that's being able to keep a defense off the field,
because their defense end of the day, they gave up
twenty points. You know, that last drive wasn't the best,
but I love Stingley. He was out there going man

(10:44):
and man with Mike Evans. It was a battle out there.
Mike had like five to fifty four yards. Nothing crazy,
that's not going to have nothing to go ride home about.
But end of the day, they still were able to
get the win. So I don't I think the Houston
Texas still special teams is doing great.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
The pump return, the pump block, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Their team is doing good, but just being able to
get that run game right, being able to score more
than nineteen, you know what I'm saying, just being able
to get that.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So then I'm not down on them, but I just.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Think that they could do a little bit better with
extending some of those drives and winning on third downs.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I was surprised that Tempa was able to to
actually slow down their pass rushers. You know, they got
they got a couple of good pass rushers over there,
and then they had offensive linemen that were hurting out
and then they had another guy that got hurt, and
I believe they were actually down to the last offensive
line they had, you know, active, so you know, for
them to go out there and actually do that and

(11:37):
come away with the win, you know, I was, you know,
I was. I was impressed for sure. For sure.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna
be solid. The Bucks look good. The Bucks are like
all around pretty good team to me. Mm hmm, Yeah,
I would, I would definitely, yeah, because they do.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
You got the run going, you got the pass, Yeah,
you got both of those going. They're converting on third
downs at fifty I think it is right now, and
now you're dominating time of possession because you're making sure
that you're keeping you know, you staying ahead of the chance,
you giving yourself, you know, manageable you know, second third downs.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Irving and why he's toting They looked like a two
headed mosster. They could give it to seven h one.
I was looking at him like, man, these dudes are
really really toting the ball, and you know what I'm saying.
They were doing a great job. And Baker too is
not ever since he's been in Tampa. We want to
knock the people that want to knock Baker. He's a
consistent quarterback. You know, he's he's throwing crazy touchdown passes.

(12:32):
He's not turning the ball over, and you know what
I'm saying, He's just doing what he's supposed to do,
leading the team, making plays when he needs to. So
I'm proud for I'm proud of Baker and just knowing
that he doesn't have to do everything. Understanding he got
to do his part and make sure you get use
your legs and you got to check it down.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
We got to get it to Earth and get it
the Bucky. Bucky gonna do what you gotta do. So
just dump that thing off the bucket if you got to.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
So, just understanding that, understanding the players he got around him,
I think that's helping him.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh yeah, no question. We're gonna sip over here to
the Chargers. Man. The Chargers just Maley wopped. Miley wapped
the Raiders, dude. The Raiders defense, though they ain't bad,
they ain't bad at all. I mean they played well actually,
but the Chargers defense, du they just dominated fifteen pass defense, dude,

(13:21):
six tackles for lost three takeaways and didn't give up
not one touchdown. That's you know, that's hard to beat.
I think, No, that's.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Elite defense, bro, Like you said, that's gonna be hard
to beat if that happens.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, they said, no team has ever hit any of
these marks in the game since both pass defense and
tackles for a loss were first tracked in nineteen ninety nine.
That's wild. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
The Chargers, man, they have a great, great defense. They
have og players too. They got Khalil Mack, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Khalil got hurt in the first quarter though they didn't
even have him for the three quarters of the game,
and they still, you know, they still did that. Man,
Geno gotta gen know, he gotta he gotta be more
you know, he got to be more cautious and protective
of the ball. I mean a couple of situations. One situation,
really you know, he couldn't. That was just a good play.

(14:16):
But you gotta you gotta be more more conscious of,
you know, where you're putting the ball, especially when you
know you're in a situation where you can you can
get an easy three. The big you know, turnover right
there in the red zone that that really hurt him.
That was an opportunity to actually pull the game within Uh,

(14:37):
I forgot what it was, but that right there, you're
going in and it's a you know, it's a pick
that that kind of you know, slows everything down. Same
thing you're throwing, you're throwing three inter sessions. You're putting
your you know, you're putting your defense out there on
the mm hmm. Yeah. And when you do that, you know,
it's not a it's not conducive to to actually being

(15:00):
able to consistently, you know, hold hold the team down.
You know, you give them three more opportunities than you
would have it. It doesn't it doesn't farewell for you
most of the time. Dollars, how many games do you
think somebody has turned the ball over three times and
actually won it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
That is not high. It's not high at all. I
mean the turnover the ball.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Is you ever had you ever had like a three
turnover game that you can remember where y'all turned it
over three times and you still still want No, definitely,
I'm trying to think right now, man, and yeah, I
can't I can't remember that. No, you don't.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
You don't normally win those games man, and especially first
player the game. You don't first play the game. Popped
off pick, you know what I'm saying, that's not that's
not going to be. That's not conducive with winning. And
then my man, you know, like just protecting the ball
to the defense was playing well. They gave up twenty
points with three with three other three picks. And then
just just being smart with the football too, like we said,

(16:02):
throwing the picks. And then on fourth down, he threw
the ball away, like give somebody a.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Chance to get right it's fourth down, dude, put it
in play. Happen is that it's gonna be a pick
further down the field, better than them getting the ball
right here. He just handed it to him right here.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
So just little things like that that you know was
doing it sometimes like this, that's not conn do so winning.
You gotta just be a little bit smarter on the
field with that.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, I'm I don't I don't know how good the
Raiders offenses. I'm gonna tell you this though, I'm surprised
they shut the rookie running back down. Though I thought
he would at least, you know, get something. I think
he only got like maybe forty fifty yards something like

(16:48):
that on was it twelve thirteen fourteen carry something like that,
So you know they did a they did a good job.
The chargers did a good job of, you know, being
stout in the run. And like I said, when you
stop the run, you get opportunities to pin your ears
back and you've got them behind a chain, so you
know when it's gonna be more of a passing down

(17:08):
passing situation that I think Geno passed the ball like
forty something.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Times, so yeah, I think yeah a lot things like
twenty four for forty seven or something like that.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Bro, Yeah, almost fifty.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Hey, brother, At one point, my man Gino Smith was
zero for zero with zero yards, zero touchdowns and three picks.
What passes over ten yards of airtime? Stop playing, I
promise you, brother, that's not going to cut it. You
know what I'm saying. It's not a Geno basher. But
just like when you when you're doing stuff like that,

(17:39):
it's gonna be very very.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Who is it? Who is they gotta they gotta they
gotta qualify back up over there or somebody that good
good step in or I don't know, do you think
it's time for a change? Or is it just too early?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I think I mean, I think it's a little too early.
You know, had a good season last year with the Seahawks.
I mean it might not I think too ash genty,
But the line we need to start.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
He needs premier, We need you got you got. You
got one of the coaches running backs coming out of
Coross last year, and you're not You're not handing, you're
not making things. Well, I'm going to hand him the
ball at least twenty times, well carries, no, just getting
at least twenty together.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
You gotta get him starting to get warmed up, you
know what I'm saying, Like that's back. You gotta let him.
He gonna start warming up throughout the game. If you
get him.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Touch here, touch there, then he's chilling.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You got to get those running backs kind of warm.
So I think just genty working on him, trying to
get him more involved, is gonna take a lot of
pressure off some people.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh yeah, I think it'll take a lot of pressure off.
Like you said, you got forty seven passes if we're
out there effectively running the ball too, So you got
to have some help from your office line of course,
but you need to effectively be able to run the ball.
You didn't draft him over there just to hand the
ball to him twelve times a week. No, Like, that's

(18:58):
that's a little ball forty three times a game. Yeah,
that Gino. I like Geno, but he ain't there. He
ain't gonna be that quarterback that's gonna sit out there
and pump the ball out, you know, forty fifty times
a game. And think that that's gonna be something that's
gonna be conducive to you guys winning. I don't. I
don't see that being I don't think so being an issue.

(19:18):
You know, speaking of the Raiders, Dude, they showed Tom
Brady and the booth wearing headsets on Monday Night Football,
like in the actual Yeah man, yeah, the player, the
coaching booth. Like, so what do you think of that?
What do they call it? Conflicts of interest? Demo?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's what I'm getting a little and I'm thinking, who,
I'm just hoping that Tom Brady doesn't want to get
involved in any shenanigans. And I know that I hope
that he's not, and I'm not saying that he is.
But when you're meeting with coaches, when you're meeting with
coaches and players pregame to understand to get the ends
and get the out and get.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
To just the stuff that they're going to tell you. You
know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Saying before the game by bright before the game, because
this is more you know, you don't feel like you're
speaking to the media.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
There's nothing really that can get out.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
They're going to be the ones watching the game, so
you're kind of giving them what they're going to see
happening during the game, like what you guys been going
through going through the week, So you don't give them
normal media information.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I'm just saying, if you're an owner of a team
and you're calling a game and you're getting that information
and you talk to your coaches and you're saying that.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh no, we talk all the time. You know, Tom's
gonna be this.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
If I were owning a team and I have this information,
I would be giving it to.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
My coaches and other people and.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Trying to go and that sounds that's the hoops. I'm
not saying he's doing that, but opening up the avenue
for it to be a way of people talking about it.
You're sitting in the presspot with the other coaches and
you're play just another team. You could be talking about
we're human. What you're going to be like is no,
I'm not going to say nothing. You could be like, no,
I know that they they running this, they're doing that,
this information, you know what I'm saying, But not I'm

(21:00):
just saying that, I just don't it looks a little
fried and for people to be able to even bring
this up and say these things and like, it just
doesn't seem.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's not smooth to me.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
So I'm not saying he's doing it, man, I'm just
saying that it doesn't look it doesn't it's ways they
cannot look.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Good for Shuat. Yeah, but it's actual rules in place, dude,
for this certain this certain situation in twenty two, I
believe it was when he initially signed with Fox that
was you know, that was a like that was a
monumentis contract, dude. It was a ten year, three seventy five, Like,

(21:38):
that's that's like unheard of, Like you know what I'm saying.
And then twenty three, you know, Al Davis announces that
Tom Brady is going to be you know, a minority
part of a part of the group like so from
there on, like you got you got rules in place
where you're not supposed to have, like broadcasters that are

(22:00):
are owners of the team, to get through that process,
like you had owners Like I think it's the chiefs
owner Clark Hunting. He's like, yeah, you know, it was
a lot of hurdles we had to go through to
do it, but you know we made it possible. Why

(22:20):
are y'all fighting so hard to then the rule that
y'all put in place for the integrity of the game,
to make sure that you know, it's not a possibility
of something like this going on. And then you go
and you've seen like sitting in the booth with the
headphones on. He done did, he done, did production meetings,

(22:43):
he done, sat there at the practice and watched these
dudes practice. He done, did all of that. And you're
thinking that it's I mean, I don't I don't think
he would. But on the outside looking in, I'm not
the team. Would I even sit like why would I
even chance it? Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Me and DBO you me and you are on the
same of course with this one, because I think when
you said too, like they made some rules and stuff
about it. It's like this Tom Brady, if you're going
to be the owner of the team or minority owner
of a team and really work with a team, then
you can't be a.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Commentator of the game. Okay, right, So now are you
what happens? What happens when the next person tries to
do it? Is it just going to be approved? Now?
You just you just said precedent that you can do it.
We just gotta make sure you go through these hurdles
to make sure that you know you're not doing anything
like that. Like so the next time, uh a broadcast

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somebody that's broadcasting and wants to be a minority owner,
is that going to be okay? Or is this just
something that you know, you decided to fight hard for
time for.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, I think I think it's the crazy Yeah,
like know, it got to be. It's a little bit
of both too, de bo because.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Like, but why why would you fight so hard? Like
you just said, you y'all makee rules for this. Yeah.
The owner of the Chiefs, Clark Hunton, he said, they
like they might, we had to go through hurdles to
make this happen. You know, why are you fighting so hard?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
They like Tom Brady, they want him to be a
part of they Little They they little Boys group of
the owners and dudes. And like, I think that might
be a reason, because if it was somebody else, it
could easily be the other way. Like, like you said,
why are they being to hurdles? I'm just putting out
the question. Maybe because they just want him to be
in their group.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know what I'm saying. Okay, so so so the
next so the next time that somebody does it then
and it doesn't get approved, how is that if it
doesn't get approved, how is that going to make this
situation look It's going to make it look like the
optics are going to look crazy. No, for sure, I'm
with you on that too, de Bo.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't think it looks good for I don't think
he needs to be doing both. It's either that you're
gonna have to do one or the other. Because even
if you're not doing the complicate interest, if you're trying
to keep your intechnity right, you're going in there, you're
meeting with these people, and you're not giving the information
us being able to question if you're giving the information
because you shouldn't be in the room with these people.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's just the whole problem. You know what, I yeah,
and what you're doing this this? And the next person
comes and say you you deny them, Well you just
you just set the precedence right here where you approved it.
So now are they going to sue you? Is the
NFL going to get sued because they didn't allow whoever?
It may be, like I think they put themselves in

(25:33):
a in a real compromising situation that could really turn
around the byt them. Plus you're you're questioning now, I'm
questioning now, like Yo, you're sitting in the booth like
with the headphones on with the coach, like what's going on?
Like are you giving us some inside scoop where you
know you got you got guys that sit down with
the production team and say something they shouldn't say, Yeah,

(25:55):
we got a trick play ready for snow for shup,
you know. Or you're getting injured reports and all that.
You know so and so is dealing with this or
dealing with that. You know, like you may have somebody
how many times you didn't say something that was going
wrong because you didn't want to be on the injury
report because you didn't want him coming after whatever. It
may be that was right, you know what I'm saying, Like,

(26:16):
so you get you get things like that, and it
may be something small. You know, you tweaked your your
ankle on the on the Thursday before, you know, the
Sunday game, and you know you just iced it, kept
it moving, didn't say nothing. But you know, somebody going
there and they just want to get you know, they're
they're just giving information, just talking and they blurted out there.

(26:39):
So maybe he had some information that you know that
they didn't even you know know, but you're sitting in here,
you're asking the question, and you get to ask the
question for sure, Like you get to ask exactly what
you want to ask. Yeah, and dude, de Bo, we
were on the same I don't know, man, it's weird

(27:01):
you're sitting over there in Vegas. What is that the
gambler capital or the world? For sure, Like it's making
people be real weary in Skintish because you just did
something that you set in place to not be able
to do and now you've done it. I would say, though,
because I wanted to keep it from being any questions
on the integrity of the game. You just you just

(27:23):
put it in. You just put it in questions.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
He did, because now he's in that booth, you know
what I'm saying, asking those questions. The more he's doing
those pre interviews and then going into the booths with
the with the raatest coaches, so that just opens up
a whole can of worms. And like you said, too,
we're not saying that he's doing anything wrong. No, we're
just saying the optics looking at it, you know what
I'm saying, knowing what interviews you are in, and then

(27:48):
now you're in the booth with the coaches, that just
looks like you can be able to easily transfer information,
you know what I'm saying. Like, we're not talking crazy,
but we're not.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You know what I'm saying. It just doesn't look too good.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, sold Let me say this too, though, Debo, when
you were saying about like if somebody else were to
come and try to like get into being an owner
or something, they don't let him. You know how the
NFL is they would, I don't know how they would
try to assume them. They say, there's a lot of
loops and stuff to get in for Tom Brady, they're
fighting to help him get in.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Like, right, why why are you fighting. They fought to
help him get in, Are you going to fight to
help the next or just.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Because it's not Tom Brady and they didn't make three
hundred and tenty five million, they don't have seven Super
Bowls like these dudes are just keeping trying to be
cool maybe with Tom Like oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Gentlemen, So you're saying money, revenue share all that you're saying?
What saying? That's that's that's what the benefit is is
the NFL is somehow getting some type of money, uh
you know, in the or or able to receive more
because he's involved with both, I would say, as an

(28:59):
owner and the reason like the same way, like.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson are probably the only like
president players that are involved in ownership in the NBA,
do you know what I'm saying? And then we have
nobody's been in present ownership. I don't think in the NFL,
not that I know of, that's played.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
So now we've got Tom Brady, I understand. But the
big issue was not him being a minority owner. The
big issue was he is also subject to or he
gets information that you wouldn't normally get as just a
straight out owner like broadcasting in the booth, Like you said,
you get to sit there and come in and ask

(29:36):
these guys questions. They watch you practice.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Dude, you know, yeah, you know, you're right he is
doing dang because like you said, Jordan is not He
wasn't doing no no production stuff with the things. He's
actually really interviewing people. Yeah, that is a that is
a conflict of interest.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, so I mean every week, you know certain I
don't know, man, I don't think. Yeah, they're gonna have
to figure something out with that.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
But like you said too, they had they did the
making the rules form of like not being able to
go to certain practices.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
And I heard I heard that they were they were
way more uh strict on him last year than this year.
Like it's kind of more he's being able to kind
of move a little bit more. So, I mean, yeah,
you're right, they got they gotta get on that. They
can't let him do certain things because the conflict. Bro, Like,
you're right, he's interviewing the players that he's going to
be coaching against.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Basically, yes, yes, the guys you're going to play against,
you're going to get to basically get the interview the
man asking whatever you want to ask him, asking whatever
you want to ask. You know, it's Tom Brady. They
probably going to say something. They probably gonna say something
they should. You're gonna be like, I'm talking to Tom.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Okay, I'm gonna answer this just as just as normal
as I possibly can, right like you.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Said, And it's reckless because he is. Yeah, anyway, man.
The Kansas City Chief players Man wore a free four
T shirt Sunday in support of the suspended receiver Rasha
Rashid Rice. Dude, what do you what? Do you what
do you think of them wearing the T shirts in
support of Do you know what he's suspended for?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I think he's suspended for it was a hot speed
he got in a car crash.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, yeah, he got in a high speed I guess Kelsey, Thornton,
Juju and Brown all wore the T shirts. I guess
Rice is serving a six game suspension for his role
in the March twenty twenty four high speed car crash.

(31:43):
He was sentenced in July to five years appropriation thirty
days in jail after pleading guilty to two third degree felonies.
What is your take on them? Are you in support
of them wearing the shirt. Do you think maybe they shouldn't.
What is your take on that. I think they could
have went without wearing the shirts.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I understand, you know how when people always want to
support their teammate and show that they're there for them
and just try to you know what I'm saying, I
got your back no matter what.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
For some situations.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Man, it's just he got a six game suspension, he's
sentenced to five years vbation, and he spent thirty days
in jail for a third degree to third degree felony chargers.
That's not anything to really play with, you know what
I'm saying. So end of the day, stuff happened, he
dealt with it, he went to court, he handled all
of his stuff. But now he's dealing with his suspension

(32:36):
to free him and all that stuff. That's more for
like innocence, when somebody hasn't done something, you feel like
they're being wrongly accused, you know what I'm saying. And
I love Juju Traps and all them guys, but on
my sign, like they always wanted to try to support
the teammates. But for me, he's done something wrong. He's
been criminally charged. He's dealing with his time. If you
didn't wear the shirts, then what kind of we're gonna

(32:58):
let that thing message sent with six me something the
six met. Then you're gonna come back to the team
and everything's gonna be good, and then we could just
go about business.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
But it's just I feel like I would.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I just I know where the're coming from, trying to
always man, I'm supporting my teammate no matter what he's
going through.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Something we got through. But when you look, when you
well when I look at this, it goes back to
the receiver from the Raiders. I believe Henry. Yes, only
things happened different here is it wasn't a life loss,
like and that was a blessing that it was not

(33:36):
a life loss. But you had four people that were injured,
some people two of them I guess were injured worse
than the others. And this is something that he did
to himself like oh young this Yes it's true. Like,
believe me, I've probably spent plenty of times all the
other stuff and and nothing happened. But if something had happened, yes,

(33:58):
I'm gonna be sorry. I'm gonna be all the others.
But what I need to do is sit down and
be like, yo, this is a situation where things could
go bad. It could go could it could go ugly,
like you could you got enough money, man, go rent
the track. You want to see how far fast a cargo?
Just go rent the track for a couple of hours.
Ain't not but a few hundred bucks, you know what
I'm saying. It's just things like that. And we're in

(34:19):
a position where, yeah, you know, a normal person may
not have got whatever it is that he got and
then suspended from his job and all that. But we're
not in a normal job. Like what we do reflects
on us, our family, the NFL, and everybody else that

(34:39):
you're involved with. So I think it's you know, it's
a bad look, especially when you're you know, you're looking
at what actually happened. You know, it's videotape of them
leaving the scene. You know, you got people that are
in their cars, hurt, injured, and you you you take off.
So I think it's a it's a bad look for

(35:01):
the players to wear, you know, free for shirts like
you know he didn't have any involvement and why he
is now currently serving only a six game suspension. When
you look at it like that could have been a
way worse suspension than what it was. Oh for sure,
it could have been. It could have been way longer.
And the situation, you know, it could it could have
been way worse. You know, you're you're just a hair

(35:25):
from you know, actually being a second sooner or later
where things go you know, sideways, and someone you know
loses their life. So the whole situation of free it's
like you said, it's for somebody that you know is
in a situation not of their own doing. Yep.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I think we feel the same way about that. Just
they trying to help out their teammate. But at the
same time, you got to really look at the whole
situation and the totality of what he did. So I
think it's just a little bit more than more than that.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Oh yeah, No. Rushing Vikings quarterback JJ Card They expected
to miss three weeks with ankle, spring could be out
multiple weeks. Wow. Winz is on the verge of becoming
the sixth quarterback in NFL history to start for six
different teams and six consecutive seasons. He up next, dude,

(36:20):
he is next up next? And Carton, do you think
they'll be better with Carson that quarterback than they were
with with JJ. I got it, man, we got to
see what Carson what's gonna do? Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I mean he hasn't he hasn't played in a while,
and you know he's like you said, he's gonna be
playing for the six team.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I mean I think he was drafted first or second
while back.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I think that he's he's been a legitimate backup quarterback
for a while.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I don't know how he's gonna do this. I don't
know how he's gonna do this year though.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I think with I think with our what's my man name,
Josh McCown there as a QB coach, I think.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
He should be able to help him out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
But I think this might be his last stop once
he's just because he's he's a first round pick. He
has the ability, the physical ability, the physical talent. But
I just I don't know, I don't know what. I
don't know what's gonna look like, Debo, What do you think?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I don't. I don't think it's gonna be much worse
or better. I don't know how I want to say that.
I just really wasn't too impressed with what I saw
the first game from JJ, and then now he's you know,

(37:46):
now he's hurting. I think the thing with WinCE is
consistently being able to stack games on games is why
you know, he's been going around everywhere and basically it's
there as a you know, fill in, you know, if

(38:10):
something happens. I don't think they were looking at him
possibly having to start multiple weeks, you know, something that
if you know, he got hurt for you know, or
not even injured, but like just heard had to come
out maybe a game you know, here and there. But
I think they were hoping that JJ had all the

(38:32):
injury stuff behind him, especially after you know, missing all
of last year and now he's going to miss another
at least couple of weeks. It could be more. I
feel kind of bad for him. Actually, he really hasn't
got the time to even get in there, to get
comfortable with it, to get to get used to it,
to get a better understanding. Like you could watch all

(38:53):
the film you want to, but it's nothing like being
out there actually going through the place, getting in him
men reps that you actually see the guys moving around
getting a feel for it. And I think that's what
you know, we really saw that first game when he
came back. It's just not having that live action over
the course of the previous year and then only you

(39:15):
know something here and there and practice practice play is
never the same speed as a game. You know, no
matter how hard you play, how hard you try and
go and you know, it never is long. So I like,
I'm rooting for him. I'm rooting for Carson. Oh, I'm
room for anybody, But I don't. I don't think he's

(39:38):
if he if he go, if he go five hundred,
I guess that's good. It's definitely good. That's definitely good.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
If he goes two for two, if he yes, yes,
that is a win for sure. Just being able to
start the ship. Man, you can go into a being
able to walk out of a stadium with a win.
If you can come out of anything five hundred, bro,
I'll be Sooper Bappy for once. And he says it's
gonna be out for at least three weeks, So let's
it's say, let's say it's full and he goes too
and two.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Great work, great work. Yeah. Yeah, we're losing quarterbacks this
year though, for sure. Man left it right. Yeah, you
got you got pretty I think he got a toll,
he said, Jaydon Daniels got a little knee.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, Burrow got a toll. Burrow, he got a got
a mean toe, Burrow.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
This is to Phil Justin Fields got bopped, he got
a concussion and JJ you know he got thank him.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, it's football out there, man, It's one hundred chance
of injury.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
De bo.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I know you know you're going to get hurt. It's
not if, but when and then how long it take
to get back? Like, you know what I'm saying, it's
a brutal It's a real live sport out there.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
We running around, full speed, running in the Hey, you
know what, you know what I don't like. I don't
like that. I'm just while you're saying about that injuries,
that that hurt stuff. I hate that they don't allow
the dbs to run up and cut the linemen when
they're coming out there to block them. But you allow
the linemen to cut, and you allow the running backs

(41:06):
to cut everybody on the edge of the line when
they're coming down. How is this even the same? How
is this you want? You want? How this people wanted
to me? It's not fair. That's them trying to make
sure they can get some points on the board. Why
because I'm not gonna let you come in as one
hundred and eighty pounds dB and cut this lineman because

(41:31):
he's due. He's three hundred plus plowns and you're not
going to let these dbs come in and cut them.
But you're letting them do the same thing to them
on the same play and cut them and make listen,
it's an offensive league.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Devot they will they want they want points like not
like the fans. They want to see people scoring, and
for us being out there, literally it makes it so
much harder. Do you understand when you're saying, Debo, you
I can't leave that, you feel for me because when
they said I couldn't take out their legs, I was ready.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
It makes no sense. You're he's throwing me down the case.
I'm running, Mike, I'm going straight to you. You can't
cut him. If you can't cut him, you're not going
to stop him. It's called what is It's just physics?
Physics hundred and three hundred pounds. I'm six six something,
six spive coming at me for three hundred something pounds

(42:26):
coming up there to five ten eleven one eighty five,
want one seventy five because he lied ten pounds lighter
than that. Yeah, and now you're expecting him to face
this dude up and not cut what. You're putting him
in danger of getting put to sleep. You're putting him

(42:48):
in danger of a concussion. I don't care about that.
You're putting him in no question. The same way when
the running backs come through.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
You know how we were coming on defense, When you
leave with your head, those running backs will leave with
your head and run you smack.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
No, they actually lead with they head with the crown
all the way down. But if you go and put
your right down here and you're seeing what you're hitting,
they'll call it on you. But you let them come
through the whole just notched up, crown just popping right here. See,
I don't, I don't. I don't think it should be.

(43:20):
If you're running the ball, if you caught the ball
and you you got a chance to get like two
three steps, you're aware of your surroundings. Now if you
get bopped, you get bopped like it shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's not I got hit too hard, foul right now,
that's what it can It's.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Not a helmet the helmet. It said, oh, she gotta
get too hard. I heard it, heard the crash. Let's
see if you get up. Did you get up? Nope?
Like getting get him up out of there. That's that's
Roger Goodell say. That's three hundred seventy five million fine. Launching.
You know what I say launching. I'm gonna say this too.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
You gotta be able to launch if you don't put
you not not like launching like.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
As right, but if you watch that, you got to
be able to rise on. You gotta be able to
rise like that's got to be able to rise out.
If you can't rise up on the launching.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I call that hitting, hit and right, hit and raised, Like,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
You lower down, you crouch up, and you come up
and you hit. Now listen, you know what they're trying
to teach these kids in high school? Man A tackle
them here? You know you put your head across. Yeah,
don't put your head across. Put your head behind them
so they can bust through your whole shoulder. No, they
got you throwing the arm. I put in your head

(44:35):
behind them, behind them, behind them. Safety. It's some type
of goofy heads up thing. That's saying, yeah, well, your
head won't get hurt, but you won't play for the
rest of the year because you go get everything tore
out your shoulder, you lay them everything else out the bone.
Oh yeah, and think about it, like especially high school,

(44:58):
Like you got some of these kids that that are
just so far different in skill and size, and you're
telling him he got to go and tackle this dude
this way. Nah, that ain't that. Ain't that ain't Oh
and high school, they ain't allowed to jump over a player.

(45:18):
I thought that was only in flag football. No, bro,
they're not allowed to jump over. So if a dude
is coming in and flying at your knee and you
jump over in that's they called it leaping or something. Dude,
you're not allowed to jump over people. So what they
tried to do is stop dudes from jumping somebody standing
straight up. But now it's like, you want me to

(45:40):
just bend down and let him hit me, Like you're
not allowed to jump with the dude. It's crazy they
getting it doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to tell you,
Joe's getting getting I've only heard that in flag football.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
My son couldn't hurt them, and I was like, okay,
that and I don't know why, but that okay, but
not in tackle football you can't jump over somebody.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yo. Also, Philly dude, So the knickt Sorry the Eagles
coach Nick Siriana, he feel the questions about the uncalled
fall start Sunday with the win over the Chiefs. Okay,
I think this is what they're doing. This is just me.
I think the center is snapping the ball off of

(46:22):
their movement because that's what it looked like. It looked
like every time they did it. He was just the
hair behind. So I think he's looking for their heads
to clear and then he snaps it, which gives them
an advantage in this whole uh you know, quarterback sneak
tush push thing, Like what do you think? They were

(46:44):
all sides twice for sure, no question about it. Not
neither one of them get called. That ought to be
a reviewable play when you just push it ought to
be a reviewable play to see if your guys jumped early,
because they did it both times that I saw. I think, Yeah,
I think you're right, man. I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I think that I think the time and I think
the time in it perfectly soon as somebody moves, and
I think as soon as the lineman moves to his
left or right, he's snapping the ball because they're getting
the best jump I've ever seen it. I don't think
it's nobody else saying anything. I think the center might
just be snapping off the first movement he sees from
his guys.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yeah, I think. Or it's like, you know, they're doing
a call and he's giving it like a one, you know,
to let him get get a little jump instead of
a whole one one the whole second, give him like
a half little second. But that's big when you're talking
a game of inchest like.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
And they only doing the touch when they need a
little bit. Do you are you a fan of the
touch push?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I am a fan of it because it's part of
the game. Like if we can sit there and buil
you over for you know, yards on a fourth and whatever,
then you know that that's that's that's what we go do.
That's part of the games. Why you get guys that
are strong and all the other stuff. I don't personally

(48:09):
have a problem with it, but you have to be
able to like they were blatantly off side. One time
you said slightly.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
They just say if they do, if they do go
for a fall start, we gotta just throw the flag
on it.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
We can't just be letting them just do the play regardless,
Like is that even a reviewable play? Can you review that?

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Could could they have red flag challenged that? I don't
think I don't even.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I don't think so No, because he didn't call it,
like you have to. You have to call the flag.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
You know what. The competition committee in the off season
need to go over this. If you go allow to
touch push, you need to be able to review every
one of them to make sure. Ain't nobody off side
like some of them dudes be already like in the
neutral zone center got the ball tucked up under him
so far like the guys on the already off side. Yeah,

(49:06):
they can't. You can't.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
You have to still line up like a legal play.
You still have to line up legally. You know what
I'm saying, everybody behind everything's good, boom boom, because if
not that we instantly need to throw the flag.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I understand, right, even even when when you're when you're
long snapping, you know what I'm saying, The ball is here, dude,
he got this whole thing lined up here, and half
his helmet already across the ball. He's off side. Yeah,
so we just need to make sure they aligned right
like that. That just the proper alignment.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Can't be can't you can't get you can't get away
with lining up off side.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
That's just five. Yeah, you gotta you gotta be you
gotta be penalized for that. Like it's especially you know,
he scored a touchdown. You know you you take off
that that you know, that half second jump and you
make it an even the field. And maybe that doesn't
happen because.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
They're only doing that on third and one or like
fourth and one. They're only doing it. What they need
a little bit of y'alls a touchdown or first down
to see games, so they're not doing it and just
random plays. It's a big, big, big momentum swing. It's
a big play in the game. Where they ever they
do the touch crush.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, I mean they want to slow down every time
somebody get hit to see if they helmet touch the
quarter piece of their helmet. Oh yeah, that's helmet. Slow
this ship down to and go ahead and let you
see that these.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Boys, your whole team lined up off side of the court. Yeah,
got the ball tucked underneath them.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah. We put our helmet in the neutrals on y'all
popping the flag. It's a free play. You know. We're
sitting up there looking like a chew and glue. If
they go ahead and actually get something good on us
because it was nothing that bad can happen to them
on that place? Sure like they gotta get right, man, listen.

(50:59):
Tom Brady is returned into the field for flag football
tournament Saudia rap Would you flag football? Olympic flag football?
Would you want to retire to play Olympic flag football? Bro? No,
I don't. The sad part is I mean, I just

(51:19):
know that I'm not.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I wouldn't be the best representation of the United States
of America.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I would want not right now, right now, Not right now.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I would want either stingly Past certain Denzel Ward. I
like them Man the Man, way more than I like
me Man the Man right now.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
So I'm not. I wouldn't retire. I would watch for show.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
But I think definitely like Denzel Ward, Passer Tain Stingley
throw them out there and they strapped everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I think it's easy for him, you know, all you
do is throw the ball time. That's what Tom, do
We throw the rock? I think so Tom will be
spending that joint for sure. He can't get hit. I
can't get hit all the time in the world, and Tom,
we're not the time. I don't know how to think
they have a rusher. Maybe it's like having your four seconds.
You gotta you gotta launch it, or they call to
play dead.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
They got a rusher and only gonna do is run
up to you and pull your flag off.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
So he's not gonna hit you. No, I think I
don't know. I think they may just give him a
time limit and then you, uh, you gotta be get
rid of the ball. Then if you don't, then it's, uh,
you know, the player is dead.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Okay, okay, okay, that makes sense. Well, yeah, Tom will
be straight, he'll be able to what yes be defenses.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
For sure. Joe, who was the defensive player of the
UH of the week this week? I have no, I
don't know. You don't know, no who was it? I
went I might have. I'm asking you who was your
defensive player of the week.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Who is my defensive player of the week? Oh, don't
go ahead and go with h I'm gonna go with
Tony Jefferson. I'm gonna go with Tony Jefferson. He had
a pick and he had a breakup in the end zone,
and then I'm also go with Dell Pitt. Tony Jefferson
got picked one. All right, Well, Tony player not play

(53:12):
Tony Jefferson for the Chargers. Man, step out to the O.
G Tony Jefferson. He went from practice squad, then got
raised up, had a pass, breakup in the end zone,
and then had a pick in the fourth He was balling.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I'm going with you on the same one, and then
I'm gonna get honorable mentioned to uh to Geno Smith,
A man, man, listen, man, your boy your back at
it again. Man, he talking crazy man down there, boy
Crawford and Dana White last week. You know, let's take

(53:48):
a listen to what your boy was saying. Man, he
out here.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
You remember you was talking stuff to that that big
dude I forgot his name, the football player James. Yeah, Debo, I'm.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Gonna grab your little ass up. Hey, hey, Bud, you
want to tell you make sure you there for that.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
But the was gonna grab you like shitn and grab mede.
I'm just saying deep was gonna grab you like shann
and grab me.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Hey man, man, I got this.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Just make sure that when I whooped him, when I
whooped him, just.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Make sure you yell and then andre next and you
have to do me this one favor.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Please.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I want to fight James Harrison in octagon five rounds,
five minutes.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
James Harrison, the NFL player. Yeah he he You talked
to my trash.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I need you to set that up.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I need you to back me. Tell Turkey a monster.
He's what he is? A monster.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Did you see the story of David Goliath? Okay, well
that's what exactly what its gonna look like.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Is that a real story or is that a myth?
Might be a myss? I think that's a myss. Uh.
How old he holding James? You thinks should be probably
about ten eleven years younger, probably about forty six, forty
forty five. I'm forty seven. I'm only forty seven. Oh okay,
you agree to the fight. I'm still too old, but

(55:16):
it's better than fifty seven. Just say yes, please, just
say I can't say yes. We'll I'll tell tell you this,
We'll talk about it. Oh my god, Chad I'm gonna
be the same. We'll talk about it. You see that,
Oh m G d bo. He's serious. He's he's talking

(55:38):
to Danny White about it. And at first I thought
y'all was gonna box. He wants you to allow you
to use your feet too. I don't know, man, I
don't know. Listen, listen, man, what do you think? What
do you think? Listen? You know you want to know something? Crazy? Man.
My MoMA was like, Yo, don't, don't, don't. Don't hurt

(56:02):
that boy. Don't don't, don't. Don't do nothing to that boy.
You see how small is. Don't don't hurt that. But listen, Chad,
you asking for this, ask for man like you better
hope Danny don't do that. You better hope Danny don't
do that, because if he do that, you ain't give
me no choice. Man, You ain't give me no choice.
Trying to tell you. Everybody trying to tell you. My

(56:24):
name may good Lie, it's Debo. I'm gonna tell you
this debo our.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Chad texted me, he texts you, texted me. He said,
I'm gonna beat that debo. Ass though he think it's sweet, bruh,
it is sweet. It is sweet, like it's go like see,

(56:52):
I'm be trying.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I'm fighting with like I got I got the I
got the little red one over here, I got the
one over here with Hayt And you know they they
talking to each then like like no, you know, he
just you know and you know if you get in there,
don't you just don't hurt him too bad. And he
over here like bust his motherfucking ass. Give him everything
he's looking for, you know, danger, danger, listen, dang, go ahead,

(57:21):
go ahead, set that thing up for him getting what
he wants. You know what I'm saying, I ain't I
ain't go I ain't gonna hurt him too bad, goodness,
but I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to at
least at least choking out. I know he got a
bad eye, right eye bad, So I'm gonna try not
to hit him in that one. He can't see how
of it too well. But I'm gonna damage the other

(57:43):
one so he can't see how neither one of them.
I'm going to be in attendance. Listen, Chad, I wish
you the best. I'm I'm gonna pray for you. I'm
gonna do everything that a good Chris is supposed to
do except not whip your ass. You got to Debo.
I'm gonna whip your ass. He doesn't talk to us.

(58:04):
He don't talk too much trash. Now, Debo, he up
there and talking to you, trying to come on. You
know you really don't want to get that set up. Man, Joe,
we got some super we got some super track. Yes, yes,
Jay twice he donated and said, hey, Deebo and Joe,
we will be entering Will you be entering theaters? We're

(58:24):
going into theaters. I'm here for Debo. I'm here for it.
I mean we could because what you we got to
get our own movie going. What is gonna be called?
Is that you already know Debo? And what is it about?

(58:46):
Are we robbing anybody?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
It's gonna be more like like rob like more robbing big.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Style, robbing big style. But I don't know if I
like that. I don't. I don't like that for me.
If you calling me big, don't like. No, no no,
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
No, no, no, no no, like we're just gonna be
doing cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Okay, okay, listen, it ain't gonna be It ain't gonna
be a movie, but we go get our own whole
drama series. That's what. Okay, that's it right there, man.
We're gonna keep working on it. But no, we ain't

(59:27):
gonna be in there depot un. Let's unless y'all looking
for a live audience, you know, in the theater on
the stage, and we do the show from that. That
might be something that will pop saying. That'd be real nice, y'all.
That's gonna be the next thing. That's what we got.
We're gonna start trying to see if we can't get

(59:48):
something like that set up for y'all. Listen. We want
to thank y'all guys for joining us for this episode
of d Boy and Joe. Make sure you hit the
like button and subscribe. We'll be right back here Friday
to give you more of what it is that you're
looking for, and that's Depo and Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Come on, tap in, tap in, like, subscribe brock with
me and your boy Debo. We'll be back here Friday.
Subscribe or I might have debo.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
No, we are
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