Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Eagles SURVIVING vs. Cowboys + Jalen Carter SPITTING on Dak Prescott

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles beating Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys 24-20. Jalen Carter being ejected for spitting on Dak, and much more as they preview Week 1 of the NFL season!

Timecodes:

00:00 - Jalen Carter spits on Dak Prescott

07:43 - Eagles beat Cowboys

17:03 - Eagles made trade offer for Micah Parsons

18:23 - Micah Parsons digs at former Cowboys teammates?

23:45 - Stefon Diggs apologizes to Boston media

27:25 - NFL heading for 18-game season?

39:14 - Rookie demanded $1mil for Davante Adams jersey number

44:27 - Ryan Clark's WILD Tom Brady take

46:28 - Amari Cooper to retire from NFL

55:06 - Mike Tyson vs. Floyd Mayweather 

57:11 - Ocho calls out Deebo again!

59:01 - Powerball jumps to $1.7Bil

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host,
James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co host,
Joe Hayden. Would you please make sure you like and
subscribe to our channel. Y'all want to miss nothing. How
you're doing today, Joe Man.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm doing great, Debo, Great to be with you here
on this great Friday. We got football, We got things
to talk about.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
My good brother.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Definitely definitely Dallas. Dallas over there and Dallas and the
Eagles gave us a gave us a whole lot to
talk about, you know, especially before you know a snap
even got started over there for Philly. My man Jalen
he he he wanted to spit on this man right
before the kickoff. You know, in my mind, dude, like

(00:52):
the most disrespectful thing in the world you can do,
man's spit on somebody. Like it's nothing else in this
world that you could do that would be worse than
spitting on somebody. Like if somebody was to spit on me,
like go ahead, get my bail money together, like like
I'm going to jail. I don't know how that had
the control to not like react to it and do something.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
You called me, Debo, Yes, you called me.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
You called me when this happened.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I knew you felt some type of way, so I
couldn't wait to get your opinion. And that's why I'm saying,
like the spit, like I know you feel some type
of way. So literally, like Debo, you said, bail money
for show. How would you feel if that would have
been you in that situation? What would you have done?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
My brother? I just needed that it would.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Dude, I can't even I would have had I wanted
to say. I want to say that I would be
able to control myself, especially you know, being in that situation, the.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Game of the season. You got to put yourself where
it is. You know what I'm saying. You are a
professional athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
And but he did look all right, let me let
me say something to when he spit on your mask,
so we got dag did a little spit first of
seeing it. But like when he spit on him, Debot,
he spit on my man's upper chest plate slash Adams Apple,
like he spit that on his neck, you know what
I'm saying. So I'm like the disrespect. You're right there

(02:18):
in close quarters and you just really spit on the man,
So like like that's what are we doing. That's the
craziest thing. I had to pause and look at it, like, man,
this is not normal.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, Like when they said, like he I think he
spit on him, Like it's no way he went over
there spit on him, and like nobody reacted, like you
don't just calassually walk up to somebody and spit on him,
like like dude, Like the level of disrespective spit, it's
no level to it. Like the only level below that
is getting into a fight with a dude and he

(02:53):
beats you up by just slapping you and he never
straight open hand slaps. Yeah, like that's that's the only
other thing that's closed.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
And like I don't see.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
The only way I can describe or understand why the
offensive line didn't react is that there's no way.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
In hell they saw that they that's like an all
out brawl, and that.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Teams y'all just canceled the first regular season game because
this is not going to stop.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That gives it gives, Like I would say, you know how,
I know how pouncy rocks, and I'm just saying for
the offensive lineman, just for protection, that gives.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
You the right to throw ass because he's he literally he.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Didn't just he didn't, just didn't.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
He didn't smack your He spit on your masks.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
So now you could obviously thumb, you could fire off
on him and you might just get a flag. But
he's gonna get thrown out because the initial man, the referee,
was standing right there. He saw the spin. So I
think that's maybe why. I don't know if the lineman
saw it, but like that gives you a little bit.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
There's no way on God's green earth, dude, that the
linement saw a spit.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's no way. It's no way. I don't believe that if.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I see that and it is just it's you man,
and we and who I don't care who it is,
and they spit on yous. We're close quarters they and
he walked over to the other side. That's like an
automatic like he's supposed to be getting hands feet made
like all that. You know what I'm saying, Like it's

(04:28):
no other level that you can disrespect somebody with other
women spitting on him. Yes, to no extreme, I just do.
And the fact that they did not react to it like.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
It was hopefully you saying that they didn't see they
had to not see the spit though, it's no way
can stake controlled.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
But yeah, and then like to come out with you know,
dak spit. He went in between his linemen and he
spit due. He spit at the ground like he's not No,
he didn't even try and level it out to even
make like he was getting to you.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
So all that other stuff you can miss me with
that noise.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You hit that man here bloom here here between here
and here direct bloom.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
He spit out on the field.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You spit on the ground, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Like you feel like it's in your direction, you feel disrespected,
that's on.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
You coach on the field, bro, and you turn your
head to spit and you hit somebody shoeing the ft
y sure you and you ain't even it's one of
your teammates, but you just went over the fact. I
believe they got to suspend this dude. Man, I think
he got to get at least six games. You gotta
go ahead and make an example out of this dude.

(05:38):
It's no way it should not be some.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Sort of suspension with this bro.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
What do you think I think he should get suspended
for show six games.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Six, but you gotta make it like you mad, you
want to make an example. Spit is not that's not cool.
It's not what we're doing. We're playing in this game.
You know what I'm saying. Tensions get high, it is
what it is. But that's just foul.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
You ain't even snapped the ball yet. Broay, what what
tension got high?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's the first game of the season. He's building up anger,
you know. But you're right, You're right, James, he needs
to get suspended. I don't know about I would say.
I would say for show like two, I would say
to at least to at least two games, at least
two games, two games, just two games for that bro,
you say six six, Yeah, I think yeah. If you

(06:26):
want to make an example of him, understand, we can
do six and maybe knock down a couple. Okay, No,
for sure, we can start off at street and the
knock it down. I just yeah, it's just the Yeah, No,
I feel you gotta you gott hit him where it hurts,
and that's gonna be in this check. He's gonna list
six game checks. If that's the case. You know what
I'm saying, and that's that's that's that's gonna be where

(06:47):
it hurts. I would say, for sure, suspend him. The
length of the suspension is debatable. He needs to be suspended.
He's not gonna he gotta sit he gotta sit down.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
You gotta sit down.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeahology and all that's that's that's you know, that's that's
great and cool. But at at the end of the day, man,
you like you spin on somebody, Like if you're in
an argument with somebody, that is the last that is
the last thing that you are thinking about doing, is
spitting on them, unless, dude, you don't spin on you

(07:23):
first the first time your kids spit, what you do
pop them in their mouth? Right, like, you don't do.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
That?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Just don't make sense anyway, Man, him getting kicked out
the game really didn't help help It helped the Cowboys,
but it didn't help them enough to win the game.
I believe twenty four to twenty the Eagles ended up
beating them. Anyway, What what what takes with things that
you see that came from this game that you would

(07:52):
want to, you know, talk about or point out that
the Cowboys could obviously do better to help them, you know,
secure that win.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think it was more I would say Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
The thing is, that's what good teams do. You're going
to figure out a way to win the game. The
Eagles Jalen Hurts, he threw for one hundred and fifty
two yards win nineteen for twenty three eighty two percent
passing completing completion rate. You know what I'm saying, nothing
too crazy, But end of the day, when the game,
when the season starts, you want to get out of
these games with wins.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You want to win. You want to get to the
next game. You want to get to practice. Watch the tape.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Watching tape on a win is way easier than watching
that tape on the loss. So Dallas Cowboys like and
they didn't have their best defensive lineman their interior alignment,
so they ended up being able to just get out
of that situation winning the game. Defense play solid, only
gave up twenty points, you know what I'm saying. So
these are just messy games where nobody's really into the flow.
You don't really know what's going on. AJ Brown wasn't targeted.

(08:49):
He had one catch for eight yards. You know what
I'm saying, Like they just at the end of the day,
the offense wasn't doing too much. But these are the
games that you just end up winning. You want to
get out of stadiums with w's not els because it's
way easier to figure out. Let's let's study from this,
let's let's get right, but let's not spit on fucking somebody.
If you're in the game, that'll help our defense and

(09:09):
just start off, you know what I'm saying, like that part,
and then we can start aj Brown getting him into
the mix. Sakon Barkley scored a touchdown, only had sixty
yards Russia.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
But you leave those stadium.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, made up a lot a lot of that with
you know, scrambling and coming up with big plays, you know,
getting in there. I think on you know, Dallas side
of the ball, they need to you know, I think
shore up like just small things. I think they need
to get They need to get what's his name, picking's
more involved. They need to get on more touches, you know,
getting more targets. I believe they had over something team

(09:44):
targets for UH for CD. Also, CD had had a
few drops. I think he had three or four drops there.
But I think the big thing that really hurt him
was was that turnover and then you know the rank delay.
It seemed like both teams couldn't get started back from that.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Defense.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You know again, I mean more more, more pressure from
from the Dallas defense. Obviously Parsons is in there. I
wonder why, uh, I don't know why. The lack of
pressure debo. Yeah, I mean, you know, hurts running the
ball hurt him, you know, him scrambling. His ability to
uh you know, extend plays and make and make make
plays with his legs was really the big, the big difference.

(10:24):
And like you said, he didn't go out there, you know,
slinging the ball left and right here and there. But
he made up for it, you know, at the points
in spots of the game. And that's what and that's
why I love Jalen too. At the end of the day,
like doing what it takes to win.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
He's gonna, like we would say, you're not Greg whatever whatever,
but you're gonna he leaves that he leaves that stadium
with the W not an M. That's only one. The
Eagles are one to O trying to figure out how
to go to and O. You know what I'm saying,
Like it's the simple part of at the beginning of
the season, how do you start buying the eight ball?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Dad?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
You win games that you're not really supposed to win,
or nobody's really performing like you think they are, but
you won the game. So y'all just building consistently, you
stack those up. Next thing, you know, you're sitting there
four and oh, just trying to get your rhythm right,
Like just the beginning of the season training camp.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Nobody's hitting, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
But he's making those third and shorts like scrambling, being
able to extend place, being able to just do what
you gotta do to.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Win the game, get out of the stadium.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
So, according to the next Gen Stats, Jalen Hurts picked
up a career high five first downs on nine scramble
runscluding yeah yeah, including the game clinching third down conversion.
You also scored both of the touchdowns on scrambled runs.
You know, obviously I think you were impressed by his

(11:39):
performance last night? Would that be a correct assumption? One
thousand percent?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean, like, like I with.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That being said, do you think he he's the top
five quarterback? Now?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
See, that's the thing I never want to give slander
to Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I'm not here for the jailer.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm not saying I'm not I'm not saying you're slander. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
But when I say that, you say he's the top five,
I'm practicing myself to say that I don't know if
he's top five.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
He might be like he's top ten for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
But I'm saying, like the way that I think of
Aaron Rodgers of being just the best thrower of the ball,
you know what I'm saying, compared.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
To like people where you think of the position of
quarterback and understand what your quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, yes, with all things being the same, I think
if Patrick Mahomes was on the Eagles, they may be better.
And that's no disrespect because I love you know, I
love Jaalen Hurts. So that's why when I say if
I were to put Joe Burrow there, I think that
they may be a little they may they may be
a little better. You know what I'm saying. And that's
not knocking Jayla in any way. He's doing what he's

(12:39):
asked to do. He's a great quarterback. He deserves every
dollar that he gets. You know what I'm saying, But
I just think there's a couple of player quarterbacks I
think that are just a little bit more gifted than
him throwing the football, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
And that's just.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
As me as being a quarterback. I think that that's.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Just on my on my top So I think he'd
probably be like, he's definitely top ten. He's around probably
six or seven. Probably six, I would say six. I
would say six. Okay, okay, well where.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Do you put you?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Like, I'm with you, he's in that top ten. I can't.
I can't. I don't feel comfortable saying top five because again,
my view of the quarterback is the just flat tangibles
of a quarterback what he can do at that position. Yes,
being able to run afterwards and you know, extend to play,
that's an added bonus and all that, But being able

(13:32):
to see what you see, get it there and you know,
read out of things. That's something that he can do,
you know, just sitting in the pocket. And like you said, Tom,
you look at Tom, you look at other guys like Tom,
you look at my Homes. Same thing with Mahomes. He
can see it and if he don't see it he
can get up out of there. But you know, nine
times out of ten he's looking to throw the ball.
So I think a few of those times, you know,

(13:58):
it was opportunity where he could have hit a guy
that may have been breaking open and chose to take
it off, or just maybe later on the read or
maybe they're breaking later open. So I don't was there
any cost of concern, you know from the Eagles last
night that you that you could think of anything that.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I mean, it's early, you know, I think AJ Brown
getting involved, you know what I'm saying, Just trying to
get that passing game going. But like I said, it's
early on in the season. Being able to come out
of these games with w's is the main thing. So
them winning a tough division game starting off, I think
they're on the right path. But like AJ Brown, getting
the receivers more involved, I think that's something that be

(14:40):
could Yeah, little calls, you know what I'm saying. That's
what I'm saying, THU, just a little dump that big
post that he threw, that was a fifty yard pass.
You take away that he went eighteen to twenty two
for one hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
That's real.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
You know what I'm saying, Dunkan is doing what you
gotta do. But I was think like more just a
little bit more exposed to plays, you know what I'm saying.
I think that's probably done only thing for real, because
they did good job on defense and they didn't have
their best player and also that.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Was something else Like I'm not I'm not really concerned
about it, but I believe they won't have him for
a few more few more weeks if not, you know,
if not more than that, you know, and I.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Believe next week who they play the Chiefs or something. Man,
I think so is it. I believe they played the
Chiefs next week.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So, you know, coming up on that, not having your
your guy in the middle there or possibility of not
having him there, that's a lot. That's a lot different game,
you know for them when they're going in there trying
to make sure they can stop the Chiefs and Patrick Homes.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
So you know, just from the.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Play that I saw last night, again, the best defensive
player wasn't in there. I ain't gonna lie, dude. I
think Dallas might be a little better than what than
what we think brou Like they got, they got, they
have talent, they have talent.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I think them getting George Pickens also along CD lamb.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
He dropped some balls. That's not the normal. CD.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
He's still is seven for one ten, but he's gonna
get right. Getting George Pickens is another number one. You
know what I'm saying, Like, you need to throw that
ball to him the same way they're throwing it to CD.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And that's what I say.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You need to get him more touches.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh, he's unbelievable, his athletic ability, Like just put him
in space getting the ball, throw him a slant, he
could take it to the crib.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
We've seen it before, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
So I think just getting able to get him involved.
Back understanding, you got two number ones, you can go
to ball on the popensive side.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Man, Like you know how much you think they missed
Micah though.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Oh big time.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Like you said, there wasn't the pressure of being able
to you saw Jayleen he ran for five of them
first downs, being able to just escape like they weren't
compressing the pocket, being able to keep him contained.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
So I think with Micah there.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
He would have been able to get to He would
have been able.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
To get to him. He's the best defend the lineman
they have by far, he's the best defensive player they have.
He's the best player on their team.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
And he was not there to help run that man
down and stop some of those stretch downs that he
was able to confer.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah yeah, so, uh, I guess according to Adam Scheffner, uh,
the Eagles were in a great, big war for Michael Parsons.
Like it's no way in hell that Jerry Drones was
gonna give no Michael to the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Dude, That's probably why he was talking about, Yeah he
got he got two or three more years here, Like
he let him sit there and do nothing before he
give him to the Eagle. For sure, that was the
You imagine, dude, the Eagles with Michael partisis right now,
that game would have got ugly, way uglier.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
No, No, there's no way, there's no way. I mean
they would have had to give them. He would have
got the hall that he deserved. He would They would
have to give him six first round picks.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
They would have to. They would have to. Dude. I
don't even think he would have gave if they gave him, Dude,
I would not have done it. Would have been the
worst move he could have ever made in his life.
You're almost but all but guaranteeing that you will never
beat the Eagles for the foreseeable futures. Yeah, right, experience, right,

(18:14):
that's right. I just don't, dude, I just don't. I
just don't see it happen. Going to Michael Parsons, I
guess they're saying that Micah took a little dig at
his former Cowboy teammates. Let's see, by praising his Packers teammates.
He said, I tell you, I've never been in the
locker room with guys like this. I come in Tuesday

(18:36):
for treatment and I saw almost every guy in the
locker room. This is the first time I've seen this,
he said. He goes on and say that just shows
how much these guys want to be here. They just
want to be around. They just want to be around
each other and hang out. I think that's important. And
when you're around guys like that, it makes it exciting

(18:59):
to come to work. Do you think he was taking
a dig at his former team or do you think
he's just excited to have an opportunity to be on
a team.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Man different Devo.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
That man is in Wisconsin, there ain't nothing to do
out there.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Everybody's at the facility getting right, chilling, getting treatment.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
For sure. Where we're gonna be what we're gonna do.
So understandably, I think that Mike had gotta understand.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's like Wisconsin is a little different than Dallas. But
I'm when you come into a new spot, you bringing
that good energy. You're saying what you see. I think
that it's dope that everybody's in the facility, you know,
I think everybody's getting that treatment, getting that work. In
early Dallas, Tuesday's the day off the boat.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
We know this.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
What are people doing on Tuesdays? That's your time that
you don't have to come to the facility. Actually you
can chill, you can do what you want to do.
So being that and he's saying, Wisconsin, everybody's there, they're
getting treatment. I was meeting people on a Tuesday, that's
the day off. So he's sayingverybody's in the facility. Maybe
in Dallas finally the day off people aren't in there
as much. You know what I'm saying, you can come
and get your lifting. You cannot. But I think you're

(20:08):
saying I'm looking at like dude, de're in the facility.
You're in Wisconsin. Everybody's coming in the facility because you're
getting treatment, getting their body right. It's one thousand percent.
But I don't think it's that serious. I think I don't.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I don't see it as a dig at the Cowboys.
I see it as him being exposed to a different
locker room, a different way of moving. So from the
time I was in Pittsburgh from two thousand and two
until probably twenty twelve, that's what we had.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
We had a group of.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Dudes that were in there that everybody were in there together.
Like we hung out on the off time, you know,
we'd go out, hang out.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Do whatever, go out kick it.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
And first thing in the morning, Yo, six thirty seven o'clock,
you're in the gym at the latest, working out, getting
it going. And that's just the you know, that's just
the atmosphere that those players from that time to us
passed down and it just continued, and to be honest
with you, like.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
As it went further and further.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
In twenty twelve, I ended up going to Cincinnati and
thirteen and you know, I came back unretired and was
back in fourteen and it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It wasn't the same. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
You didn't have the same where it was a whole
you know, like team thing you had. You had your
little cut up groups, you know what I mean, Like
you had your groups, like maybe it was offense defense,
where before it was just everybody.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
When Bussy and all them was there, it was everybody.
Now it's a little more offense defense. And then it
even got you know, some things got cut down even
more than that. You know, it was positionally you know,
it might be you know, receivers and dvs.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
And all that. So I understand what he's saying. He's
not taking a knock.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
He's been exposed to something else that he didn't think
what happened, because that's that's all he was exposed to.
This is something newer, he liked. He's enjoying it, and
he'm not. He's not taking a knock at somebody else.
He's saying, I'm seeing something else and it's good. I
like it.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I want more of it. I love that. I love that.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, for sure, Like like you said too in Cleveland,
you just different. Like when I when I went from
in Cleveland on tuesdays, like you said, this is the day
off you would have. Like you said, positional groups, we
were really cool, defenses get tight. But when I came
to Pittsburg, Will Gay and those dudes they will always
have some stuff like those defensive meetings, there was like
mandatory kickets, you know what I'm saying, Like not really mandatory,

(22:31):
but dudes wanted to hang out, like we were gonna
watch this film and we're gonna get some good food,
like and just really bond to be able to talk
and really be able to get this camaraditie. So there's
different and that's what I was trying to do when
I was in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
At first, some.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
OG's abe elam dudes that do it you kind of
like said, you just fall into it because oh you're
gonna tell you kind of where we're going, where were
meeting at, and that's what you're gonna do. And then
when you become OLGI, you want to set that thing
up too, with the food, making sure everybody's.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Good so they feel apart. Everybody knows we in this together.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
The end of the day, we grind to be figuring
it out, but meeting and us doing these little out
of the off the team of coaches is not here.
This is what makes me know your family, what makes
me feel like we are actually bonding, you know what
I'm saying, getting along that camaraderie. So I understand exactly
what you're saying from that perspective, because that's that's.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
A real thing. Maybe they weren't doing as much in.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Dallas, like he said, the OG's probably didn't bring them
in as much, didn't like taking them out the dinners
or show them the way. You know what I'm saying,
People want to get led, and now he goes there,
it's a whole different vibe. I got somebody really like,
oh dangn that's what's good, like boom, so this is
what we're doing and everybody's just kicking it cooling that
he's like, man, these dudes are some good as good
ass dudes.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Right right right, speaking of people that was doing things
the way he just found out they doing them. I
guess Stefan Digg's decisions and not speak to the Boston
media br the local reporter is the wrong way, it says,
uh Diggs apologize, I guess for coming off rule he said, obviously,
I don't want to come across as that.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Well, they said he was.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
They said they said he was a pain the posteria.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, dude, my braces be locking me up. Bro.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, he was a pain in the ass. You know,
obviously they said posteria, so it wasn't one of us. Uh,
But he said, obviously, I don't want to come across
as that. I'm going to say this. I want to
be very clear. I'm an adult. I apologize. I'm not
up here the ego trip. I'm not up here to

(24:36):
rub any anybody the wrong way or say anything that's
click bait. If I rubbed anyone wrong, I really want
to apologize. So, like, you know, the man said, he's
you know, he's up there. He's he's trying to lock in.
He's making sure he take care of his body, he's
take care.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Of his mind. You know, it's camp.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
He didn't want to get, you know, into the whole
rigama ro yet you know, and right now, I guess
you know, you're at the point where it's mandatory now,
you know, So he's doing what it is that he
has to do right now. But you know, at that
point in camp, he was saying he wanted to lock in,
and I guess the two individuals they actually, I guess

(25:16):
had a little an apology too.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Do you think that that's something that you would do
or that do you think he was actually just locking
in or do you think he was just being an
a hole as they say, a pain.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I can't even say the word bro. I don't think
I know Diggs personally.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
That's my man.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
He's from the DMV, we're from the same area.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Like, I know him, I know his brother, all of them,
and Diz is a really, really good dude.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I would say that. You know, he had a lot
of off the field stuff really going on.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
He was in a situations so he just wanted to
keep it football. He's in a new team, knows what
they're trying to talk about, and he really wants to
keep the main thing, the main thing. Coming off with injury,
he knows he got some stuff to prove and I
think he's going to do it. So I don't think
he was trying to be an asshole. He just knows
that people are trying to make the story not what
it is, and he wants to keep it on football
and the only way is to.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Stay away from the media. Just stay off of it
right now.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Really lock in, try to be the patriot way of old, Like,
don't really worry about that.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
You're locked in, you got you're trying to do football,
you know what I'm saying. So I understand where he's
coming from. And now just getting back to the media,
you're gonna have to respond, you're going to talk. So
I think he really, really, genuinely does want to apologize,
really did do that genuinely from his heart, because he's
a good dude. He doesn't mean any harm, but he
knows how the media is and they could tie things
up and try to make him look crazy. So staying

(26:42):
away from him is a way, Like you're not gonna
be able to confuse nothing if I don't say nothing,
if I don't talk to y'all.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I think that was great. You can't mix something at
if I don't say nothing to you, then it ain't
it ain't. It ain't nothing that you confuse. I don't
want to talk to you, you know what I'm saying.
So that's the most you can say. That's what they
were saying he's not talking to us, so he fuck him.
So but basically like he's like, You're not gonna be
able to say nothing because I'm really locked in.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I'm on my football. You haven't seen nothing about Diggs.
He's I love that man, So I'm rooting for him.
I hope the best, nothing but the best for Diggs.
So I think that that's what he was on, Like, Nah,
don't get this confused. I really got I'm on a
new team, I'm coming off injury. I'm trying ball out.
That's what it is. Yeah, so let's let's get over
here to the nfl PA. I guess the NFLPA interim

(27:26):
director David White says an eighteen game schedule is not inevitable.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
What do you What do you think of that comment?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Bro? Man?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
They tripping, They just trying to get more and more bag.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
As far as him saying that it's not inevitable for me, uh,
that's an absolute lie.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
That is inevitable.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
That is going to be one of the things that
the NFL is going to want when it comes time
for them to renegotiate this new collective bargaining agreement. With
that being said, him not saying it's not inevitable. It

(28:06):
is inevitable. It's going to happen. And if you're saying
that it's not, I don't believe you've got yourself into
a situation that you understand what is going on obviously,
and you haven't been through the history of how this
whole thing has went down. I don't know if you
were playing when Gene Upshaw was in the position that

(28:30):
he's in owedge the executive director. So when Jane was
in there, he had told us, dude, this was like
two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, he.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Was like, Yo, the NFL is going to lock you out.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You guys need to save up money, and you need
to save up one hundred percent of what it is
that you make over the course of the next I
believe you said two or three years at that time
to make sure you can make it through a twelve
month lockout. Because he said, come twenty eleven, they're going
to lock us out. He ended up not making it

(29:08):
to that. He ended up passing. I believe it was
two thousand and eight. And then we got the worst
commissioner to ever I mean, we got the worst executive
director to ever have.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
And that was de Smith.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
D Smith did everything possible, dude, to just increase the
power that he had as the NFLPA executive director for
the players.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
It wasn't anything, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
He made it to where he took a lot of
the power away from the players being able to make
the decisions of who could actually even be voted in
as a executive director. He put a whole executive committee
together that actually voted on who would run against him.

(30:05):
The committee he put together voted on who would run
against him and took that vote away from the players,
where before the players actually made the vote of you
know who it is they wanted to run, and then
from there they voted.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
On you know, he would do it. I don't believe.
I don't believe David White has a good understanding.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Prime example, I went down to the facility yesterday still
is facility yesterday, and he was supposed to be down there.
I believe it was him, Don Don Davis, who is
the chief player officer, and.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Jalen Maven I believe it's his name. I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
He's supposed to be the president of Active Players. He's
not even an active player, right now himself, he's not
even on a roster, but they were supposed to be there,
and this is supposed to be his very first trip
to Pittsburgh and he doesn't even show up. No, bru,
he doesn't even he doesn't even show up for it. Right, So, now,

(31:10):
like even d Smith, as bad as he was, came,
he showed up when he was supposed to show up.
So you're telling me that's Trump and Trump executive director
for his first trip introduction to the group of guys
he's supposed to be, you know, out here working for

(31:31):
and and and defending, doesn't even show up. Your chief officer,
your what is it, your chief player officer, he doesn't.
He doesn't show up. All three of these dudes don't
show up. And on top of that, did.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
They did they Did they send a message?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Did they send an email? No? No, no, I knew
of nothing. Why they weren't showing up. You had a
couple other n f l p A reps that showed
up that assumed that they were already there, and I'm like, no,
they're not there. They're not on the field. So you know,
the nfl PA leadership, dude, is weak at every level.

(32:09):
We need strong leadership. We need competent leadership. We're not
going to show up. Here's the thing, it doesn't make
any sense. Before the last one, I went and was like, yo,
I want to get I want to I want to
run for you know, executive director. I told Don Davis this.
He never dropped my name in a hat. I know

(32:29):
this for a fact because I talked to a person
exactly the committee. You know why that happened because he
was trying to get it currently trying to get it now.
But again, man, i'm running for executive director. My name

(32:50):
will be in a hat. It will be there. So
the leadership that we need is a guy that is
like Gene Upshaw was. He was a guy that played
the game. He understands what we go through. He understands
what happens like I'm a guy. I was a practice
squad guy. I was a guy that was a minimum guy.

(33:12):
I was a guy that actually made money.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I'm a guy that's retired right now.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
So I know all the things that we're gonna that
that we go through, that we've been through and you're
going to go through when that time comes that you're
you know done with football or football is done with
you, you know, and it's just you know the difficulty. I'll
just bring up one little thing like your HR. You know,
you got all that money in your HR, right, and
that's for your that's where you know, when you get done,

(33:39):
you got your health reimbursement stuff so you can get
your insurance paid and all that stuff right. Well, for
you to get that reimbursement, the money's here, right, the
money's here. But the money is there. But what you
got to do to get to it, you don't know
what's to feel the broken glass you got to crawl through, dude.
It took me almost too hours, in thirty four minutes

(34:01):
just to get back fifty bucks.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
A reimbursement of a credit thing.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
And that was only because I got lucky and got
a hold of a signal person that sat down there
with me and actually called the other insurance company. It's
things like that that guys are running into. So when
you have guys that are retired and they're like, you know,
I can't get this, I can't get that. You know,
you telling him get your HR eight, Well yeah, it's there.
He just can't get to it because he got to
crawl across this glass that he can't get to and

(34:26):
if you're a guy that has a regular nine to five,
they're only open regular hours, so you don't have the
time to sit there and do all that to actually,
you know, go through the if you learn it. I
actually talked to four different people before I got one
guy that actually sat down there with me on the
phone for like I said, two hours thirty four minutes
and went through the process to show me how it
was done. You know.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
With that being said, I I'm just I'm just concerned that.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
As interim I hope it's just the interroum, because we
need somebody in there that knows exactly what we go through,
what we're going to go through, that can go in
there and actually speak for the players, that's trying to
make it better for the players and not trying to
make it better for them to keep power, position and money.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
That's all I was saying. No, I ain't gonna lie
to you, DBO.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
You speaking facts, brother, you are because at the end
of the day, you're not coming to You're not looking
for any any particular. You don't want to gain anything.
You want to help people out, like you've been in
the situation. Like you said, you were undrafted, you ended
up being minimum, you had a contract, and now you're retired,
grown kids, everything, the whole situation. So you've seen it
on so many different levels that you're not trying to

(35:37):
act a certain way. No, you just know that it's
hard once you get retired and trying to figure some
stuff out of the situations like just how to how
to how to continue to keep going, and you just
want to look out for the dudes that are in
the league that know your time's gonna come.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
You know what I'm saying. Like you, it's sweet once
it is, but once you.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Get out, you really need to have people that are
trying to protect you and not looking for a game,
not looking for theirselves. Literally, they you don't want it
for yourself. You're looking out for the next generation. So
I think that's.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Exactly I can't get nothing from it now, Like I'm done.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
With you. What's the position that we're looking for you
to get? Debo.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
We want, we want you to be president. We won't
need to be the executive director of the NFL P
A executive that's what that's what we're shooting for.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
That is what we're going for. I'm done. Look it's done.
Executive Director of the NFL PAD because I ain't gonna.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Lie to you though I love when it matches. It's
not like we're trying to do something that doesn't make sense.
It makes perfect sense. You deserve to be the NFL
Executive Director of the NFL PA because you're going to
do what needs to be done for the players.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
You're not trying to get over.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You're trying to look out and that's what the NFL
p A is supposed to do, look out for the players,
for the guys.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
And it got I think when when when Jing you know,
passed and it was passed over or they vote for
for a d smiff, it didn't become that like, no
longer did we hear a stave up, it's going to
be a locked out and all that other stuff. Like
he was telling us that like in two thousand and seven,
Jean was telling us that in two thousand and seven, Yo,
they're gonna lock us out. You need you guys need

(37:14):
to save up and make sure you can make it
through a year. He got in there and all of
a sudden it was like, yeah, you know what happened
to what you know? Jeane was saying you know yo,
and then come the last hour they're like, oh, yeah,
they're going to lock you out.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
We're going to try and help guys with this and that.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Dude, if guys had listened from the very beginning and
you continue to push that as you should have, instead
of it being a oh we could, they could lock
us out, so make sure you save something, then guys.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Would have been able to hold out.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
But at the end of the day, even though the
guys that you know, we're able to do it, or
we wasn't able to do it, the message should have
been the same. Yeah, when it came down to it,
you should have been the guy as the executive director
to do the hard thing and make it to where
guys would get exactly what they wanted. Some people got

(38:07):
to learn hard lessons the hard way. Everybody was told
the same thing. So just because you know he told me, well,
you know, James, we had a certain percentage of guys
that just you know, they wanted to go back, they couldn't.
I'm like, dude, you're not there for a certain percentage
of guy. You're there for everybody. You're there for the
NFLP at the NFL PA that's all players, not the

(38:30):
ones that just didn't listen, like you're trying to make
it better. I'm not gonna let my son do something
that I know is not going to benefit him.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
In his future just because he's he.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Wants to do it right now where right he wants
something for the short term, you know, like it just
it just it just didn't make sense, man.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
And you know you go that long.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Just to come out with a deal that you know,
it wasn't even worth going through the fight of it,
Like it wasn't even a fight when it came out
to Yeah, So I guess, uh, I guess Davanta Adams. Yeah.
When he was to the Jets last year, he asked

(39:21):
the rookie receiver Malachi, I guess for seventeen. He offered
him seventeen thousand exchange for number seventeen. According to Davonte Man,
he's total. He told him he need a million. God,
a million. He said, hey, man, it's good to have you,

(39:48):
happy to have you on the squad, but I need
a million.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I'm go need a whole mil ticket for that one.
But I'm gonna need a million. Who is who is?
Who is that? Cory Malachi?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Court.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Who is that?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Look, I got a look br up, but I don't
for acting for a million.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
As wild, that's out of control. For a millie is crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I had to pay when I was in when I
was in the Browns, when I first got there, it
threw me and the craziest, thankiest number you could ever imagine.
I had to I was in number forty, and then
I had to get that thing off to Peyton Hillis
and I bought number twenty three for twenty bands.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
As a rookie, I bought that joint for twenty bands.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
And then when I came to Pittsburgh, my man Mike Mitchell,
shout out, Mike Mitchell, I tried to buy.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Twenty three off Mike Mitchell, Right, what are you saying?
What do you say? Oh do you want to know? Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I got a star?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Oh yeah, So first I tried to pop off boom.
I got twenty bands for you, Mike, not rocket laugh
at that, laughing for twenty all right, best question, I.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Got fifty for you. Mike laughed at that.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
I got seventy five for you.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Mike laughed at that last thing, Mike, because you know
he gotta buy another number. We got robbed G there
twenty one. I say, my God, got hundred bands for you.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
He's like, nah, I got my foundation and everything under
my under my jersey under two three. I said, oh, man,
well I can't do nothing for you then, so then
Mike kept the twenty three. That's why my rookie year
I had twenty one ended up buying it off rob G.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
For the twenty bands.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Rob G was geechee. So question you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
He went to do question nothing like, nothing happened. Oh
he was ecstatic.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Took that twenty so fast. Rob G great man loved
rob G. So now I was in the twenty one.
And then next year they ended up letting go my
man Mike Mitchell, and then I got.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Twenty three for free. That was the crazy part.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, out of I ain't gonna I ain't gonna lie.
I mighta ooh. Somebody offered me a b I tried
to start off ninety. I laughed at me so hard,
so then I just tried to go fifty. I ain't
gonna lie to live too. But once you got to go,
I would have been like, man, look Mike, I don't
look because he was like, man, I'm just the number.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I don't have nothing for you.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
I'm gonna give you this one hundred thousand dollars and
you're gonna give me number twenty three.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
He was asked, Ah, cash in your hand, one hundred
thousand American current.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Ass in your hand?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Five dollars? Hey, he said, I no.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I know.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
After that, I just I'm going number twenty one.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
So I went to uh, what was it, New England
and it was a.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Dude that had ninety two, and I'm like, yo, let me,
you know, let me get ninety two.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
What you want for?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Dude. I don't even remember what his name was, but
he blessed you. Boy. You know what he said? What
he's saying, three grand.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Oh, you need to send him a Christmas card. I
can't remember his name.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Man, we gotta find whoever was ninety two when you
went there?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Because I love him.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie to you.
I wasn't gonna pay much.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
For he said right around the number you were like
that three was cool though, that three bands he was liked.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
He said, depend if it depends on what I wasn't
gonna be like, no, man, what I'm here for like
two months? Bro? You like he was like, yeah, he's
like three. I'm like, say, lest here cash out? Oh
for shake casht you three bands? Dang, no question, dude. Yeah,

(43:32):
but I ain't gonna lie. He showed up. I thought
I thought he was. I thought he was gonna do something.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
You know. So I'm not in control. Oh my goodnis,
No bo, I'm happy for your story. Yeah. No, yeah,
I'm out forty. I'm out forty for two numbers.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Here.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Here's the crazy thing.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
So when I unretired, I came back and it was
a guy that I believe he had ninety two, but
he hadn't made like, uh like active or whatever it was,
so they basically just, you know, just got it from him. However,
however that went, if he was actually active, I wouldn't

(44:06):
have been able to switch into the number like when
I came in, so because of the timing of the
season when it started, So if he had actually got
active onto the field, he would have able to hold
onto the number. Yeah, that's it worked out perfectly. Oh yeah, dude,
that that worked out to no end. Bro. Yeah, So

(44:27):
my guy RC says that Tom Brady was not a
generational talent a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
This is this can be right? Is this real?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
He said? I think I think John Alway was a
generational talent. I think Patrick Mahome is a generational talent.
I don't think Tom Brady. I don't think Drew Brees,
I don't think Peyton Manning or generational talents.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I didn't hear this. He said this on TV. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
That's what it's saying that that was said. I don't, huh.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
It's I think does he take to see Drew Brees
but not like.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
I think what he's saying, like, does he have to
see athleticism to be a generational I.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Don't know, man, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm not gonna run.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
With this one right here, to me honest with you,
because I just absolutely do not understand the whole concept
of it.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I'm trying to look like I'm trying to say she
said to me, Yeah, I'm trying to find out how
it could only be athletically.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Athletically if I'm dude, if I'm talking about the position
of quarterback and I'm like, all the intangibles of what
I need as a quarterback. I have a line to
protect him. I have a running game to assist him,
my quarterback. I'm not gonna lie to you. It's gonna
be Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
He's gonna walk you down the field and win. Yeah,
like he's.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Gonna see it, get to it, you know, and did
it again in Tampa oh forty.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
I'm like, I just.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
I don't know why I even say that about Tom.
I have no clue. Brother, yep, I let that one go.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Cooper. He told I, can I can relate to this?
I ain't gonnan lie to you. I could relate to this.
So Mari Cooper informed a team that he no longer
has a desire to play and intends to retire. Right,
but what do you what do you think of that?
Didn't he just signed like a week ago?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right? I don't Did he just sign and he just
retired with with the Raiders?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I believe it was went back to.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, I want to say it.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Was a week ago.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
He had to be there, so like, yeah, I mean,
you know what it is the bo If.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
He just signed a week.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Ago, that means he didn't do training camp, didn't do
none of that. So he went back, got into the
grind and really was like, ah, you know, like I don't,
I don't. I don't love it. It's about to be
a whole season to this, you know. And I mean
he's played ten years of Mark Coop.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
At the end of the day, got it. I mean
he made some money, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
And at the end of the day, nobody, they're not
getting any slower, They're not getting any weaker out there.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
These dudes are out that jone trying.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
To get it.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Everybody every year new NFL season trying the NFL is
not a game. It's not nowhere you just oh yeah,
I'm just jumping on there and just go play with
these dude. No, you're gonna get hurt, You're gonna get
smacked out there. They're not playing you know what I'm saying, Like,
it's not a game. Ain't playing no game.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
No, you don't just go play football NFL football.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
No, that's a business decision when you go out that
joint that you're making with your body, less your life.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
It's a one hundred percent business decision. But it's also
well for me. When I came back and unretired, I
was done.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I was good bro.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
And I had you know, I had keys will call me.
It's like, you know, four thirty in the morning. I'm
getting up, get ready to go work out. I get
a call. He's like, hey, you're ready to come back.
I'm like, no, what you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Man? We got this down. We got that down.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I'm like, I don't, hey, brother, I don't don't know
what's talking about. I ain't coming back. It's you know,
I'm done by. And then you know, I got a
call from Troy and Troy's like, yo, we we're gonna
need you to come back. And da da da da
da da da da. I'm like, I'm like, Troy, listen, brother,
I'm not coming back.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I'm good, bro. I'm happy. I'm out here living life.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
You know, I'm feeling good, bro. And then I called me.
He fresh out of surgery. He just broke his forearm
and uh, He's like, bro, we need you ba. I say,
all right, hold up, so I tell you, I tell
you all what I said. A good feeling will be wanted. Brother,
you got the home he's hitting you well, well, you
know I played so long with them, dude, that's my brothers.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
You know, my kids call them Uncle, that's uncles.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Them uncles, that's Uncle Troy, That's that's uncle Keys. Like
those are the those are there, they're you know, their
their own. So I'm like, you know what, I don't
want to feel like I'm letting my brothers down. I said,
but if my kids say no, bro, that's gonna be it.
I'm not. I'm not doing it. So I'm like, I'm
gonna call my kids. I'm gonna see what they say,

(49:15):
and I'm like, if they say no, that's it. If
they say yeah, then you know, I do it. And
that was after that already you know, spent that year
in Cincinnati, and I really, you know, I really just
didn't want to be away. So I called my kids.
I'm like, yo, hey, I actually had them on FaceTime
make sure it was recorded. I had to show proof

(49:37):
when they said no, which I just do that say no, right,
you know what. I'm like, Hey, you know that it
got a chance to you know, come back and play football.
So you guys would have to wait, you know, to
get into your contact football. You still be doing doing
flag all that whatever. It was like, okay, but where

(49:57):
where you know where it's gonna be. I'm like it's
in Pittsburgh. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, you could do that.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I'm like, damn they hype. They did not do it.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
So get into fast forward into that first week where
Amar is at right now.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
That first week, I was supposed to get like fifteen steps,
so I'm preparing myself. But as I'm going through that
week of practice, brou the second day, I come in
you know, the sword and is setting in for the
next day.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
But I don't really set in till that Thursday. Dude.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
If it wasn't for the fact that my daddy told me,
you start, you finish what you start, I was gonna
give them whatever they wanted to let me get up
out of there.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Like my body was hurting so bad, dude, and.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I was only out of it for like an off
season and like maybe the first two three weeks of
the season. Dude, bruh. You talking about taking anything I
could to try and kill the pain, trying to knock
down the inflammation, the swelling, laying in like I was
cold plunging before cold pluning was cool. But I was

(51:09):
to my deck up in that thing, bruh, Like I'm
just and I'm I'm sitting there I'm sitting at my hocker.
And so we go through the week, we end up
playing Tampa and UH coach t comes through the locker room.
So now you know, I'm into the second week. I'm
feeling better. I'm feeling good, and he's like, how you feeling.

(51:30):
I'm like, oh, I'm.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Good now, he said.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah, he said, I was gonna come over and talk
to you on Thursday, he said, but it looked like
you was making decisions in your head and I didn't
want to give you an opportunity to step out of this.
It was all over your eyes.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
It was all over my face, man, I guess he man.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, So when you get into that, especially with him
being out of it just signing that week, I totally
understand what he's talking about. I could see how it
could happen because, like I said, I was in that position,
and that is not an easy position to be, especially
as you get older. Man, You like, I got this
sitting in the bank. Man, do I really want to
do this? You know? And for me I continue because

(52:14):
you know, your body hardened back up to it, and
then I, like you said, I fell back and you know,
in love with the process, the game and all that
ended up signing you know, a couple more years, and
even when I went to New England. Dude, I could
have went back to New England. And Bill was like, uh,
I want to bring you back, but I want to
wait till after the draft so that I don't tell

(52:36):
you something that's not true. I want to I'm going
to be able to tell you exactly what your role
is going to be, so you know, I want to
sign you after the draft, and that way, you know
I won't tell you anything that's not true.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
We can go from there. I'm like, all right, cool.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
And the more I sat back, I'm like, dude, I
just don't want to be away from home again. And
it's just it's just not something I want to do.
And I was like, you know what, I got to
retire because if he offers it to me, I know
I'm going to take it because I love the game.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I want to play a game.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
And I was like, yeah, I got to retire before
that that happens, because once I started, I gotta finish.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
No for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Man, that's good way, debo that you can even do that.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Your body, the way that you work out, the way
that you maintain yourself though.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
It's a true testament.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I ain't gonna lie because once I stopped and advertise,
I stopped, like the treatment, just to take care of
my body to be able to stay a lead.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Like there's no off season when you're in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
So when you stop for real and like stop working out,
stop getting that massage, and stop getting that treatment.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Then I did it for a.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Year and then once once that happened, then my body
was kind of I was out the way. But I
can tell you still lifting up the whole gym, so
I could tell you still staying in shape.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah, I ain't lifting up the whole gym.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I'm just I'm still taking care of my body though
I'm just not doing it, you know, to the level
that I was when I was playing. I'm not you know,
I'm not seeing a chiropractice twice a week. I'm not
seeing that, you know, my dog and you know for IVS.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
And all that stuff. Twice a week.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I'm doing you know, acupunctural dry needling every week.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
All that.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
You know, I'm doing normal massage maybe once a week,
some acupuncture you know a week, and I'll see my cairo,
you know, maybe it depends on how I feel, to
be honest with you, you know, it may be every you know, month,
every couple of months.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
It just really it just really depends on how then
are you working out, Debo. That's what I need to know.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Five to six days a week, well, five or seven.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Days a week, okay, okay, it just.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, it just depends actual weightlifting. Though it's only five
days a week. I cut that down. It used to
be six. So I'm Monday through Friday with weights and
you know, uh, cardio whatever it may be, you know,
through the uh six days.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I gotta get change the gym with my dad. And
my dad was like, I would love to get in
the gym with Debo. They watch you probably watched Shout
Out Pops with that one Pops Debo. I'm definitely y'all
in the gym together and I'm going to film the
work out.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
It's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Let's get it. I know you got one right there.
I know you got a gym there. You know at
the gym.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Man hey, they say they say that boxing legend Mike
Tyson Floyd. They're about to get it on the exhibition
I believe is twenty twenty six next year, not a
date set, but it's supposed to be Floyd and Mike Tyson.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
What you think of that? Man? They gonna get my money.
I'm gonna watch you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
But what what what you got going on here? Man?
I just seen Mike in that joint.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I'm glad my man didn't try to knock buddy.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Jake Paul could have knocked out Mike Tyson and they
fight like that joint was not it was.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
It was a little bit sad to see. I don't
know Mike.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I'm trying to I don't want to see Mike in
a situation. I think Floyd might just don't know. I
don't know if he you know, it was the contract
kind of set up, so so he needed to make
it go a while, you know what I'm saying. So
I don't know if that was really you know, I
just can't.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
I ain't sure, bro like if that because I seen
him training, I've seen him doing this.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Here, he give you he could give you a minute
of that. He's getting older, depo. I'm just saying, he
ain't even give you a minute though he was in
the Jones he gave you a minute I ain't see none.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Of his training, just.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Curious. I needed to see him, let him fly, let
him fly, Mike, he was doing all that. I ain't
seen none of that.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
You know, none of that. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I just with you. I don't even know if I
want to.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I want to. I would want to see this.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Like let Floyd too, though, But I'm telling you, Floyd
don't play. I like Floyd's Floyd got actual hands.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
So I'm just saying he's gonna sit there, and he's
gonna sit there.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
And he's gonna sit there and tag Mike's ass.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
But it's gonna be like, you know, like a little bumble,
like little sting.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Hey, it's gonna be gonna be like little stings.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
It ain't even that he.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Man, how many I need to know?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
How many rounds?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I need to know?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
How many rounds?

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Length of the rounds? Come on?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Listen, man, Why your boy chat up here talking crazy
last night about fighting me?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Man, take a listen to this, broy, Oh please let
me hear.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
You know you know what I might spit on.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
I'm gonna spit on Debot. Oh No, I'm I'm gonna
make him fight me. I'm gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
He's gonna fight you, all right, you got no.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
No no, because I want I want him extremely mad.
I want him angry. I want him to exert so
much energy trying to hurt me where I use it
against him because I'm gonna be nice and calm and relax.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
I don't know not No, you ain't gonna be nice.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
Man, all right, you don't believe in your co host.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Chat, believe in me chat. I believe in library time.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Guarantee you I beat debo ass. I guarantee you tell
you man, man.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
I got no.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
You don't got you don't got no combat combat sports
background like me.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Hell oh hey man, he like he liked to hear
hisself talk. Man, that man spit on me. It ain't
a rule in this world that's gonna stop me from
trying to kill his ass.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
That's all for my own eyes. I wouldn't believe that
he said it if I didn't see it. Bright Bright,
you beyond you, beyond fight rules. I am going to
try and take your life. Oh lo de boy, hands
but you are.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
You when you know I'm beyond hands and feet bro
still on me, and I'm going to try and take
your life. They gonna have to choke me out to
get me off of you. I'm stressing out. It ain't
nothing to stress out about. You know what I'm stressing
out about.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
What you're stressing out about? Powerball one point seven billion.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Be moving.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I need that.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I already got a ticket already. I got my tickets already.
How many numbers you gotta put that? How many numbers
have caught up until I think it's October, the end
of October?

Speaker 3 (59:16):
How many numbers you gotta put in for the power six? Okay?

Speaker 1 (59:21):
All right?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Yeah, I got two of them right now. I'm going
twenty three ninety two.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Ain't no ninety two. You gotta flip it around. Twenty nine, okay,
you could flip it around. You could go, you could go,
you could go twenty three ninety two, I mean sorry,
twenty three, three, twenty nine, you could go nine and
two okay, then twenty, then two, then three.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
You get a yeah your Powerball beer two? How many
numbers we are.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Now, all right?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Twenty two, three, two, nine, four, five, six, seven, three.
We only need six though, okay, five and one, twenty three,
only nine, that's four and the I'm gonna do nine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Two.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
No, no, no, no, brother, that's them two numbers. Joke
them two numbers. I ain't never played three.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
So twenty three and twenty nine will be two numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Nine is the number, nine is one, two can be one,
and then three can be your other one. Okay, So
that's one, two, three, four, five.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
That's five numbers, right, Okay, No, that's six and then
two is my powerball.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Yeah, okay, yes, hold.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
On, let's do it like this, twenty three ninety two.
Hey man, I'm gonna be mad in the most at
this hit because we're about to tell everybody how you're
about to play these numbers. They probably go play that
same shit. All right, Listen, we go run it like this,
we go run it like this. It's gonna be twenty three,
it's gonna be nine. Uh huh, it's gonna be two.

(01:00:52):
We're gonna bump that back with a thirty two twenty nine,
and since we both got two in our number, the
powerball to two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
But it's book, it's book. But we hit with this one. Bro,
I'm gonna be the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Happiest man, hey man ever. I'm gonna have to you
got to write, you gotta send that send me that
send me what I just told you to put down there,
because I'm gonna have to play that number. Bro, I
got you listen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
If if we hit this, the subscribers, whoever subscribes right now,
we're gonna out, y'all better subscribe if we hit this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
You know what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
I'm gonna pay you to come fight me, and I'm
gonna pay you good money so everybody could watch me
whip your ass.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Boy, you hear me whip your ass?

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Hey, Hey, guys that we want to thank y'all for
joining us on this episode of de Bo and Joe.
We need y'all to go over there, hit that like button,
hit that subscribe button, and we go get back to
y'all Monday, and we gonna be half a billionaires and
we yat this mother.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
We out and make sure y'all like, make sure y'all subscribe,
or I'm gonna have my good man Debot put hands
and feet on you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, like I'm gonna do the chat. You looking, Hey,
just close his eye because I know you blind in it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Let him live, Debot, let him live.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I'm show him so much. You know what, Bro, You're right,
You're right you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Let me stop, Ad go crazy. Let me I was tripping.
I was trippling. You know what ship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Hey, I would want to thank my Lord and say
Jesus Christ for being here for me and actually coming
and showing me that I was tripping. Hey, I would never.
I wouldn't never. I would like to say I would
never do that. But if I was in that situation
and he did that, I don't know if I could
control myself.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
But I'm working on. I'm building my relationship with my
Lord and Savior.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Man. The more talking spend time with him, man, the better,
the better things get, and the better I feel. Man.
So listen, man, God bless all y'all. Man, y'all have
a beautiful day. Chad, you have a beautiful day. Brother,
love you. We are