October 17, 2025 • 59 mins
Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Thursday Night Football where Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers fell to Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals. Later, they breakdown the biggest matchups heading into Week 7 of the 2025 NFL season!
Timeline:
00:00 - Steelers lose to Bengals
38:30 - Micah Parson calls out refs
43:30 - Travis Hunter gets baptized
48:30 - NFL robs Lions?
52:00 - Deebo continues to crash out
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to Debo and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden As. Sure you like and
subscribe to our channel. You don't want to miss nothing. Yo,
I think my camera just went. I think I'm getting
some I'm some interference, some type of technical difficulties. Can
(00:29):
you guys see what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm getting a lot of noise here. What the hell
is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeao?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I think yo, it's storming out all right now? Man
camera dude, like it's crazy. I don't know what's going
not hold up, bro, I think the dog water my
door right here. Bro, I don't know what is going on.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yo, I think we're gonna have to cancel this. Bro,
we gonna have to pick this up on Monday. I
can't I can't see or hear anything. Bro, you got
some more money.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You're good. You're good. I see you both. You're good.
You're right on the screen. You're good to go. We're here.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
We got we gotta do today. We got to talk about.
We gotta talk about what happened you started. Yeah, you're
trying to malfunction.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I was looking.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I was looking for you over there, trying you over there,
trying to suck up the system because you don't want
to talk about the Steelers game.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I was I was trying to get my glasses, that's what. Okay, Okay, Yeah,
we're here. We here the we're here.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
We gotta talk about We got to talk about it.
You did you see the game? Did you see the game?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah? Yeah, I saw the game. Did you watch the
whole entire thing? I watched. I watched the whole entire thing.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, yeah, listen, Okay, okay, listen the first drive. Listen.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was okay, but like I was a little nervous
because we got behind the chained with the little false
start at the first drive. Okay, third and eleven, and
then he hit my guy d K because they put
in one on one. That was that was yeah, thirty
nine right there, great, great, you gotta start. Jayalen came through.
It was like three carres of he he got about
twenty twenty yards or so, you know, and yeah we
(02:05):
get we get that good, nice little ten yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Baby opened it up. Giving all that time. Yeah time.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It was a lot of seven seven nothing, dude, seven nothing.
Bengals offense come out there, we go ahead, jump on
their neck. Second down, we get that good sack on them,
and then they're able to convert on the third and
fourteen for eighteen yards.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah. Throw the ball on time. Yeah, he was doing
the ball on real, real, real, long time. But you know,
we hold them up, you know we do. We gotta do.
We make them.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We make them punt one of only what three times
that we made him punt? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Offense comes out. Yeah, what happened, bro? What happened?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
When the office came out, Bro, the steels offense. Yes, well,
we punted the first way we punt it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The second time we came out, bruh.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
The second time we came out, re punted, and the
third time we came out, we got a field goal.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
No, dude, that not his first pick then, no, no, no, no, no, no,
hey Rod.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
At the beginning of the game, bro, we started good
the first two the first at the first quarter, it
was like ten ten zero, you know what I'm saying,
Because we went down the first drive obviously we scored.
Then we stopped the Bengals on their first two drives
and then our next drive we got a field goal.
You know what I'm saying now, that's when it was ten.
When it was ten to nothing, d bo, that's when
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everything for the Steelers was looking good. Everything was fine.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, when ship came immediately out after we went up
ten to nothing, Yes, that's when it hit the crame
in their head for twenty seven yards off rick linebacker
or the d lineman was out of the position, didn't
get to where they needed to get to, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And then on the third and ten they get fifteen, like.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Come on, get a touchdown called back and still run
to play the next play and hit the same hit
Chase again.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Getting we ten, we tend.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Seven Jamar Chase a lot of we lose too much Chase.
We're gonna get get to that anyway. We're don't go
play by play rundown. Then we're gonna give them the
end of what we really think happens.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Now. That's where they come back out death and the
Bengals going not not the Bengals. There's still stealers. And
that's when we come out and throw that piss. The
anothers come out when we throw a pick, like I understand,
trying to.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Like get the ball to him. But like on that one,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
That's not a good play right there, That's not a
good pick. It was the the corner was on top obviously,
and the safety was leaning over that way. He was
looking at the safety safety was running over there. It
was either the corner order say that he was gonna
pick it. He didn't need to throw that ball like
that was just an unnecessary turn over that we had
for show. That was a bad That was when that
was a bad play for Rogers on our part. Like that,
(05:10):
when I was looking at I was, I'm like, now
the momentum is starting to shift.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes, they get the ball back and they crack us
in the head for thirty seven on the first place. Yes,
he I'm ad a loss, get a PI.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And then he come to other receiver Higgins Higgins twenty
nine yard touchdown and he runs.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
The slant straight through the defense like it's wide open.
And that's when Joe throwing it on time, Boom hits him.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
He cuts up in between.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Four of the still his defenders like that. It just
it looked I was throwing on time. And then that's
when they started picking our defense apart. Brother zones. Man's
running every third and.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Then immediately I'm thinking, yeah, we got a chance. The
offense is still moving the ball.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We go out. I ain't gonna lie, dude, dude to
play on that ball. Oh my goodness, DJ DJ Turner.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
The second that play was amazing, like being able to
play through the hands, discipline, didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Interfere the ball, got it down. Ain't got the knee down.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, got down now, don't don't, don't, don't forget.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He got down. He had to get down like he won.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
One knee is two feet. He got that knee down
and had control of the ball. It was no DK
was trying to rough it back.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
They was like, is the ball wobbling moving? I'm like, no,
it's not. That's all.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a pick. Well at least
that time we was able to hold him to a
field goal. So yes, it's ten. It's ten to seventeen.
You know, ain't feeling too bad, still feeling like, you know,
we could we could possibly do something, get it going,
and we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The Bengals offense comes out in the third quarter and
they converted fourth down.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm thinking, yo, the best we can hope.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
For is a field goal and we get that, get
the field, We get the field, we get we hold
him to a field goal.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It's Ramsey made a good stop on with on T
Higgins in the end zone to be able to stop
a touchdown on there.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So definitely defense stood up there. Got a field goal. Cool.
So we're looking at twenty to ten.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, offense come out there and we finally started getting
something going. Get a couple of runs from war you know,
Rogers starts making some some good throws. We're a little
behind the chains on that third down though, we were
what was it third nineteen twenty eighteen eighteen, something like
that Friar move come through for us down ball to move,
(07:33):
I moved balled out seventeen twenty. Man, I'm feeling good now.
I'm thinking, yo, all right, not a you know, not
a defense gonna wake up. You know what happened this
old man Flacco that the Browns should have never gave
to the Bengos goals and does a whole drive just nothing,
eight passes, dude on the field, sixty seven yards, touchdown.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Yes, and doing that drive. The big player I liked
on the third down that he converted. It was third
and four when slave they came down and they was
basically in a zero coverage just Island Jamar Chase safety
came dropped down, left them zero coverage with that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And he just black.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I was throwing it on time, looking at the players
man and man okay, Boom like dropped it right over
his head on that deep third and fourths to convert
there for them to be able to get down there
to score. So I'm like, Flaco was looking good. Defense
was not making those plays that they needed to make.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh, no question. But again, dude, it's not it's not over.
It's not over. Over, it's not over.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
We're going ahead and punch one thirty seven for Jayalen
going and bust one thirty seven on the next On
the next drive, the very first play, Roger, you know,
Rogers finishes it all touchdown with ay. It's twenty four
to twenty seven. I'm like, yo, we got we got
real shot, real chance here, Like defense, go hold. You
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know what I'm saying. Flacco and the dude, the running
back Brown dude, I'm even with a holding penalty, dude,
putting them that we still had. We still gave it
a field goal. Yes, Like I'm upset.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I mean, it was a lot of mister Simons there though,
Like the when the tight end caught that pass and
got like a thirty eight yard completion, Like that's just
mister Simons, you know what I'm saying. Dudes running Scott
Free down the field. They was able to hold him,
but you just can't do that, like dudes running wide open.
I can see if they can test it, but one
of Scott Free, that's mister Simons.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
No question. Man. Then the offense they come back out,
they do it three out and.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm like, y'all, no, this ain't going I'm like, yo, please,
defense just hold them just one time, give them, give
me one time.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
And they do it right they do, like them out
got his sack.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm like, we got this, m dude, we go and
get a big play.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
This is the only time. I'm like, we donet gauge
them a big play. We done got a big play.
We're done score the touchdown. This great, We're a thirty one.
Now thirty one to thirty is too much time left
for Joe Flacco.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Too minutes twenty one seconds debo, and this is when
all the game, this is for all the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Marbles, Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase. I was I
just got tired of hearing his name.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And now look, this is what I'm thinking. It's looking
like we're leaning back on a lot of those are
in like zones. Get out there, if you gotta punk,
hit punch number two and get underneath number one because
we got Joey Porter and then like bailing out and
Jamar Chase is running those comebacks and curls like right
to the sideline.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm not understanding it, dude, I think what what it
came down to?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Dude, they started running the rock, we started putting eight
to nine in the box. Joe started doing run pass
option numhing it off. So we're trying and get him
off the box and like when you got him in
the box like that and he yo, they go with
manned up. Come on, stop man, you're talking about tomorrow
Chase and Higgins.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You But the time of the thing that was getting
me though, bro, was we were running.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
If we were running man coverage, we got to still
at the end of the day, try to still protect
the sideline. Like he's running, he's running deep benches like
twelve and ours, you know what I'm saying, getting the
ball and being able to get to the sideline, like
we should be able.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
To at least trap those. A couple of players.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I was looking with Jamar Chase random ones with Jayleen
Ramsey was running across in motion with him, and he
would run the out route. I would want slay outside
corner like you if you get outside released, look back in.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
He's in the slot. Jam Chase running out steal that.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like, have a say the
over top, you can't go steal that. So it was
just not good good plays. And then the last play
with so the ones that the safety tried to still
ended up being a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
For uh for for the Bangals. Oh yeah, they was,
they were They were tripping.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's safety. He needs to just be backing over the top.
I'm talking what I don't know what he was doing
on now he was wild. Now we got to use
our timeouts. We can't stop him.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Starfield go it was the grand Higgins caught the fade
ball to him and got down and didn't go score,
didn't go score, get the ball back.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I Q up there on a thousand. You wanted about
winning like trying to win. Yeah, dude, Yeah, it was
not dude, it was. It was not a pretty performance
by us at all. We have problems.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We have defensive problems, specifically run and past game. We
can't face nobody, dude. We don't play the Jets, who
we beat. But it was a nineteenth rank off dude.
They still gave up one hundred and eighty two yard Russians.
(13:06):
That's like what four seven of pop? The running back
had five and some change of pop and justin he
ain't had that much, but he was efficient sixteen to
twenty two for two eighteen. We lost the Seattle, who
is a tenth rank offense. We gave up what four
yards of rush that game? Running back Walker that boy
(13:28):
had eight yards of pop. Ronald almost had three hundred.
Like we had two turnovers, but we gave up to
we traded. I think both got ten points. We broke
even their lost the game. And then New England twenty six.
In the rush dude got they got one hundred and
nineteen yards rushing, which ain't a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It ain't it ain't a lot four.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yards of rusher, So their biggest rusher was the quarterback.
I think he had maybe six of rush, but they
all had two hundred and seven yards pass. The only
reason we won that game is we got five turnovers.
They either stopped themselves from scoring or we stopped them
from scoring and ended up getting points from it. Plus
the quarterback was sacked five times and in key situations.
(14:16):
So that win right there, we wouldn't have got it
without all of the turnovers and the pressure. Minnesota again,
twenty fifth, twenty first in or USh seventy yards.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Ain't bad, not bad at all, dude. We gave up.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
We gave up three point fifty pass it. We got
two turnovers that helped us. One field goal got blocked,
the other one we scored a touchdown on. But again
we got six sacks. We got pressure on it, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So we made them.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They wasn't doing everything great, but if it wasn't for
the fact that we got the turnovers, we'd have lost out.
And the Browns, dude, twenty eight they twenty eight on
everything man sixty five yards Russian, but they tried to
go in there and use a quarterback to pass the
ball fifty two times. You get him sacked and pressured
like that.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Was more than Browns.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
That's like yes, And then we get to the Bengals, Bruh,
dead last in the rush thirty first total, we give
up one hundred and forty two yards dude rushing six
a tot in the.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Running back brown yeah eleven for one oh eight almost
ten yards of tot.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
On top of we turned the ball over twice.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
They got ten points off of that and Flacco busters
for almost three fifty.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
We have a huge defense problem. I'm looking at the
talent we have. We have the talent, right, I'm thinking,
we have the talent. So what is going wrong? Bruh,
Like what you tell me? What is going wrong here?
This is what it is. Debo A lot of that
bend but don't break stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
We do that all the time. But there's too many
times when people are running scott free. There's too many
times where somebody's busting coverages or people are just running
wide open, do you know what I'm saying. So that's
where on the secondary part, I'm speaking on the secondary. First,
on the secondary there's too many miscommunications. There's too many
people running scott free on a lot of these things.
And then in their zones. If you're running the zone
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you gotta get to your zone. People need to be
in the spaces that they're supposed to be. When we're
bailing out on Jamar Chase and letting him just run
these courtner routs, you have to keep eyes on him, leverage, you.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Know what I'm saying, and then losing in one on ones.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
There were opportunities where when I love Jayalen Rambley, but
when you're playing on the dude and you're outside and
you're having them dudes, those are plays that that they
made and we did it, you know what I'm saying.
Those places that they're making that we're not making are
hurting that defense. Then at the same time, when you
go to the running game, these are explosive plays. These
dudes were running every time they toted it. They were
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getting to the second level. That's on who's that's on
your defensive line.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
On the front line.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Dude, that's on your front now on your front line, right,
get him some pushback and.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Getting him contact.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
He needs to be getting contacted before he gets to
the second level, like secondary making tackles. That's because you're
somebody else in the front is messing up. It's a
whole lot easier to look at Jayalen Ramsey, to look
at Jarius Slay, to look at the secondary because those
dudes are out there on the island playing versus ballers.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So if nobody's getting to them, you're gonna be able to.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
See their mistakes a whole lot more glaring, because you
know what I'm saying, they're out there on the forefront.
When your dude's running eleven carries for one oh eight,
why is he get to the second level each time?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
If you're able to be that successful in the run,
now you have to try and stop the run, which
opens up your opportunities for easier deeper passes because now
you've got to bring more people down into the box
to try and stop the run.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
When you can't stop the run, it opens up the
past period.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And the only reason we've been able to win is
Aaron went bukoo against the Jets.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Okay, they did.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's why we want to the defense.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You're not even the defense.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
The Patriots turned everything over, Minnesota couldn't protect, and the
Browns they had a rookie quarterback. Yeah, like, we don't
spend all this paper over here on defense. And don't
(18:29):
get me wrong, like I said, the offense. Yes, they
have some issues too. It's it's issues on the offense side.
But we didn't spend all that money over there on
the offense. Yeah, we got DK but yeah, and you
can't effectively run the ball like we gotta do dump
game alternatives for running the ball because our offensive line
(18:50):
isn't effective. Now we got we got fifty eleven tight
ends that we just started using. Last week we.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Scored thirty one points. Debo. The still is supposed to Yes,
that's all I'm saying it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
HEAs they're famine around here, and and and and and
it starts with with with turnovers and pressure rather we
get them or it's self inflicted. And then we ended
up picking them up because of the other team. They
do fumbled the rock. How many times are doing what?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Three? Two? Three for it?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
It looked like a replay. He kept coughing the ball.
It was three about three? Yeah, I don't I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like, we have to get this fixed. On the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You can plainly see where like you said, guys are
missing the signus are we are? Are we not understanding
what we're doing? Are we not explaining this well enough?
If this is a coaching is this a coaching issue,
like or is it just playing out? You're just getting
beat and you can't get to the spot that you
need to be at and be able to do the
job that you need to do.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's everything, I believe, dude.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I think when when when you see and at the
same it's a lot of those because I was watching plays, brother,
like when they had to drive the ball down on
the last drive to go to go score and Jamar
Chase ran the under route and he and the text
message that you said he was fifth, like nobody was
in the screen, And that's Jamar Chase running the underneath
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route for eighteen yards when all they have to do
is get down and field goal range to win the game.
Like that's just how was he doing that? And that's
that's accountability. Like it looked like it's three three.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It looked like a fire zone coverage, and that means
that had to be maybe changing. I mean, you can
see what's his name, linebacker six?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, six, But I'm I'm I'm saying we're not in
the locker room exactly. But it's either you got a
fires you know what I'm saying. You can see confused.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
He's pointing, trying to tell somebody to go here or
go there, and nobody moves to it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
When when emotions, I'm like, but.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Yeah, long, social they need to get on the tape room,
the film room because those things don't need to be happening.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
People that ended up running Scott free.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Like you said, Jamar Chase, there's no reason he should
be running down the field wide open for an eighteen
yard game when y'all trying to prevent a field goal
to win the game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, and like immediately, dude, I'm like thirty one to thirty,
I'm like two minutes and change. Not liking it, yo,
And dude jump up like you go, come on, man,
this young stuff that you're doing to a forty one
year old quarterback. You go jump on this man's back
(21:28):
and tackling. You know, you could have broken hip like this.
He's a quarterback. He is fragile. You can't you can't
go doing all that celebration and celeb Now it looks
real bad because we couldn't hold nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Dude, We're going to be in trouble. Trouble like we
haven't faced a top half offense.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I take it back New England was sixteen, but it
took five turnover, six sacks to get that accomplished. Right, Yeah, Yo,
we're not going to get that again is Green Bay.
We're not going to get that against Indianapolis. We're not
going to get that against Los Angeles. That's not going
to I'm even worried about Chicago now because they fourteen
(22:13):
one flow.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Come on, man, if we like you said, though it's
not a it's not a personnel problem, we do have
the personnel to do it. We are opportunistic. They do
get a lot of turnovers. They just got to win
first downs, like getting behind the sticks. They weren't getting
them behind the sticks, or if they did and flow,
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Was throwing it on time.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Even when we got behind the six twelve fourteen stuff
like that, Blaco was balling.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He was throwing the ball on time.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And that's when you got amnion one on ones and
be able to get after the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
So I mean, yes, we're getting no pressure.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Like, dude, we gotta face Detroit to All they do
is run the ball effectively.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, that that's going that That could be, dude, be trouble.
That could be trouble.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Oh, you stress it out. Huh bruh, you stressing out.
But look this the thing, This the thing, y'all. We
still still still scored thirty one points. The offensive line
protector Aaron Rodgers, he was standing upright a lot of
the game. He was able to make plasses. Jaylen Warren
was totaling the running game did Look its Bengals.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
They still won though the bank we can't be it's
any given Sunday. And now the Bengals with Flacco, shi
he Flacco's not a dummy.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You know what. I realized, if you.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Got a gut, if you got a better receiver than
the then the Bengals defense, it still ain't help us win.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The defense got to show up at some point in time. Look,
we don't know when's the last time.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It wasn't that this low? What are we? Twenty six?
That was a good.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
That was a that was the defense played bad that game,
for sure, But that was a good. That was a
good football game. That was a good football game by
the offensive side of the ball and by Joe Flaccos because.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He was throwing the They don't give a damn about
a good football game. I'd rather be sitting here talking
about how we won ugly, then how we I don't
care how good the game was.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Joe, hey man, listen, that's that's that's that's that, that's that.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Uh, it's any given Sunday debo. Now you're going back
to when they won all those games and saying, oh, no,
they only they didn't play. You play against who you
play in the stadium. You can't be talking out of
both sides of your mouth, do you know what I'm saying.
You gotta give them credit when they win, and then
when they lose, definitely bash them. But at the end
of the day, if Aaron Rodgers didn't throw two picks,
we still probably.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Still won the game, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Like the defense did make a couple of stops at
the end of the game. On the fourth quarter, offense
could have drove it instead of punting the ship.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That with the other two stops was early in the
first quarter and the fourth they made the last eight
possession they scored seven or eight.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What is you talking about, bru They made one start
your job one time, one time in the fourth just once.
That's it, one time, huh. They they didn't play good.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
They sid they needed they needed another one obviously, or
they wouldn't have lost the game.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You know what, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk this up.
I'm gonna talk this up to Thursday night road games.
That's what I'm gonna talk it up to.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Quick, quick, quick turnaround. Man, Flack only had three days
of practice.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It's Thursday night road game. So that's we got the
worst Thursday night road game performance ever. Like, it's the
longest streak in forty five years on Thursday night. I
guess what, y'all? The record is still his record. There's
still his record, buddy, Yes, yes, I guess road games
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over the last what since two thousands? And I take
it back, you go all the way back to eighty.
Now we see why Coach T was pissed though.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, it ain't no, it ain't pretty.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't think Coach T done rode one on Thursday
night road game in his career.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's wild. Yeah, I'll sat, I was I was today
years old. Now that's what I'm gonna talk it up to. Then, Yeah,
talk it up to Thursday. Chalk it up to a
short week.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, chalk it up to Thursday. Talk it up to
a short week. Talk it up to miscommunication. It's Thursday,
and everything happened because it was third is a road
game away, That's what I'm gonna go with, even though
I know it's bullshit. We've been playing as a defense
like trash. We've just been able to get splash plays,
sacks at the right times, and all that.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Other stuff to be able to beat mediocre teams. Oh okay, okay,
shootouts and shootouts.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, no, you speaking facts. The defense has to play better.
They have to. They have the talent, they have, the
play they have, the players.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They got to get that jail on tape because the
running defense is not looking good, and then the passing defense.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I mean even in the on the offensive side, like
we're having we're having eras of what's going on. People
don't know what's going The flicker, du He's like, what
are you doing? Like I can, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I can the fleet flicker running the wrong play? Yeah,
he was five, was hot, dude. I just.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'll get over it, you know what, dom Yo, just
feeling a losing don't feel as bad as it do
when you're actually there and you lose it. So how
I'm feeling, I know they feeling way worse. So hopefully
that feeling to motivate them, coaches, players, everybody alike to
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get whatever fixed we need to get fixed and get
this thing moving in the right direction, like.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
As a with a twenty six twenty eight. We're not
We're not. We're not gonna go nowhere.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
These offenses that we're going to face in the next
what four or five weeks, they ain't. They ain't turn
the rock over like that. They they they doing things
more effective than anybody.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That we've played yet to date. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
If we come out there playing like we've been playing
the last six seven weeks, we gonna get the band
struck up on us. We're go getting bears, they gonna
dog walkers. Damn drop your nuts, man, put your foot
in the ground. Stand for something, dude. We can't even
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bust a grape and a fruit fight right now.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
No, I mean, the stats don't lie, and they be
running that ball. They be totally so you know they
got it. They I know they got pride, man, I
know they got pride in that locker room and they
don't want to hear us talking about how bad this
they'll run defense is and Deebo over there looking pissed.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So, dude, not just the run the past every dude everything.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I'm more with the pass defense too, Like you said, Debo,
I mean it's the total defense.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's both. I'm not gonna lie. I'm more like to run.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I feel far better if somebody beat me passing that
because they were just quick getting out the hands or something.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
But when you run the ball on somebody, you have
to physically move them out of your right way and
make create holes.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yes, that that's demoralizing, that you can't stop another man
from putting you where he wants you so they can
go where they want to.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
They're imposing a will on you. Yes, yep, yep, yep. Yeah,
I'm putting my foot on your neck. But I just look.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yeah, now that's a bad feeling too as a dB,
just watching your boys just getting tossed out the way
and you know that you got to make that tackle
or he's going to strike up the band on a
run play.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's crazy. Yes, getting scored on, dude on the run
play that ain't.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Even on a run play that because we on the
goal line if it's if it's three yards or less
like even men, you got to drop down and stand up.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, every blade, every blade of grass. Debot, you gotta
call every blade.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't even know what we came from here today.
Thank you are not you.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
You were not expecting this debot and that is that
is sure. I can tell you are perplexed. You are
a little yeah, you can you get You get a
little frustrated when it's still You get frustrated when it's
still lose for show. You tried to have camera miss
malfunctions this morning. It was I was looking for my glasses. Uh,
That's what I was doing. I was really looking for
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my glasses. But yo, right now we trash mhm, yeah, bro,
you are overreacting, debo. I'm overreacting. I promise you you are, brother, No,
not unless you are in the brown That's that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's the Browns, you dirty, rotten bastards. Then went and
gave them.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yep, they definitely did that, though, next time we see
y'all did that. Joe Flacco is a smart man. I
love watching him play quarterback now because at least he
understands when he was with the Browns.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I mean, I don't you give him too much? What
I'm doing them? Too much? What positive energy over here?
I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
No, Bro, this is what I'm saying. You're gonna sit
here and not give him not no, not not not positive?
But did you not watch the game? Did you not
see him picking us apart? And even if he was
throwing those passes, you know what I'm saying, Like he
could have been throwing them into the dirt, but he
was throwing them right on the money, and Jamar chasing them,
was catching them past this and the offensive coordinate.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
This is why you don't give him Joe Flacco exactly.
I didn't give him Joe Flacco. Make me lose?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, get mad, debau go ahead. I'm telling you because
you gotta be a realist. You saw the game, and
you're not giving Joe Flack credit for looking like a
beast out there and dropping them dimes to Jamar.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Chase and Higgins. Who who I'm gonna give who? No, no, no, no, no,
you're not gonna say. You're not gonna say Fla did
hate Listen. I don't hate him. I don't hate Joe flaccoh,
I like Joe.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
How who you do? I hate?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
The Browns is an organization, Okay, whoever, whoever they, whoever
made that decision. I hope they go down there and
beat the breaks off yard ass. I'll we throw for
four twenty five six touchdown. Hey, it was nothing, but you.
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I feel you best for you, Joe, when you play
the Browns, dog walcome dog walcome.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Broh, Hey, he might mess around it. Look, he might
mess around and do it. I don't think that was
a smart decision at all. Like I don't. I don't
agree with you one thousand Becai. We should never what
you get.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
For it nothing. You ain't getting nothing for it. You
traded a couple of you ain't getting nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
For getting than we got Nate than you, bro, y'all
about to mess around. I was looking for the Joe
that was throwing picks. This Joe. This is not the
Joe I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Bro, That Joe.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Bro, that Joe, and you put him in there with
these receivers. Mano, Bro, are you kidding me? Like That's
what I'm trying to tell you. That's why.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Man, Yeah, Joe Flacco, he realized something. These dudes are
really good on my team. I'm not going to stand
back here and look, goofy. I want to throw the ball.
We ain't getting no pressure on it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We ain't.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
We ain't rerouting nobody. We ain't stopping nobody from just
going where they want to go. We ain't getting no
hands on nobody. He throwing on, he throwing on time.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
He's you know, he throwing as soon as a dude
cut the brake.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Bro He's like, right right before the break, boom, throw
your hands up right here, go ahead, Flacco. I respect it.
I respect it because it just shows that it wasn't him.
I mean, he got some players on the team he's
gonna throw away.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
They need to be.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
You gotta put them, see, they got to be where
they gotta be. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And he's not out there. Did this thing, Yes, Joe,
Joe did this thing. That's for the old guys. Yes, yo, Joe,
go ahead, yeah, Uncle bo all that stuff. Uncle went
out there and put the belt out on our ass.
Put belt to ask, as they say.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
As they as the youngins say, oh my goodness, man,
oh man, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Listen, man, let's just go over here, man to the north.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Listen, Michael Parsons calls out the one side of officiating.
Here's here's what he had to say. You know what's
so bad, bro, I can't even get my mind off
of this. Let's listen to what Michael said.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Now, you know, five years are not getting call, you'll
eventually start worrying about it, you know, But you know,
I think I just gotta keep going. That's just that's
the hunt. Yeah, Like that's part of the challenges, Like
you just gotta keep going. And that's bothersome that that
worries them. They know that, Like that's the part of
being one of the best. You know, that comes with
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uh some territory where the parts that you hate and
the parts of the league.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Let's go.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Like they know, Like I mean, you can tell how
they call the games. They don't call out sides for offense,
but they'll call on defense. They'll they won't call offensive
passing offerens, but they'll call defensive passing offerens.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I mean, like, we know what you're trying to do.
They want to load the points up so fans can
be happy.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
And you know what I mean, they'll call defensive holding,
but they won't call OFFENSI holding like like, let's just
wake up, Like it's just one of those things that
we know what the high trying to do, like the
reference say, I know that's a whole, but what like
you're not gonna call it, like come on, like it's
just one of those things that like I'm over and
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I would just have to keep going push.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
To What do you think? Man? You agreed? Disagree?
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Uh, it might sound like he's making excuses, you know
what I'm saying, but kind of you know, I mean
I played in the league too. Now for a minute,
and when we first got in. The rules are changing.
They do want points. The referees will tell you, like
they'll definitely let a defensive offensive passing appearance go before
you like get if you get a smidget of grabbing
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somebody's jersey or touching like that, they can call defensive
passing appearance, Uh, illegal touching and all that. So I
heard plenty of times like if a deep if I
get pushed off on or pusch.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Wasn't hard enough to stop you from being able to
go where you wanted to go? Yeah it was, you've
seen it. Well, I don't think it was enough to
stop you or impede you from being able to follow him.
All that hole wasn't enough. He held on to you,
but you know he let go fast enough. Believe me,
I got all that stuff. The block with the arm
around the neck. Oh he wasn't holding you. How's he
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not holding me? But his arm is around my neck?
Well you know you're short and he's taller than you. Well, yeah,
that's part of his advantage and disadvantages that we both have.
Like that should be a hole. I wan understand what
he's saying.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And yes, he's right.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
The game is getting tailored so that, you know, they
want to see points. That's what the fans want to see,
you know, they want to see these high scoring games
back and forth. I'm I'm not of that because probably
because we're defense might players.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Bro, when you play defense, it's like this, if he's
holding me, he's holding me.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You know what I'm saying, Like you.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Feel like it's very black and white if they if
they're if I was pulling on him, you're gonna call
on me. So it's kind of like you you understand
it more like when you play defense, we get it,
like no, that's not okay. But when you act like
you're hearing it, like when they saying to you, Dbo,
he had his arm around you because you were a
little shorter. It's like, but he's holding me. You know
what I'm saying, Throw the flag. You've seen it, you
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know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So they do that.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
It happens all the time, and defensive players we hear
it from the refs like man like he was bad,
Like nah, but he didn't impede your process.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
But like so they can grabbing me, he's impeding my process. Oh,
the jersey pull wasn't enough.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That's holding.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
He's pulling the jersey like he shouldn't be holding onto
the jersey at all.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Like, well he didn't. He didn't. You know, it wasn't
enough to stop you from being able to go. You
were able to push through it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, if he didn't pull me, maybe I get a
little closer to making that tackle or that sack, or
or or touching the quarterback to to you know, hit
hit the pass or interfere with his throwing motion, whatever
that may be.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
So I yeah, I one understand it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
But again he's going to have to understand it ain't
just you.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's the league. It's the league.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
It's the way it is and even speaking on it,
you know know what I'm saying, I mean not having
as many sacks as he wants right now.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You could be feeling some type of way.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
You just want to get out how you feel and
being serious about this is really legitimately happening. But putting
it out in the media is something that everybody kind
of we already know it is kind of nothing really
that they can be able to do about it, but
it could definitely get an eye on so people could
see like, look, you are getting held and they're not
calling it, but sometimes defensive players.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
You know what I'm saying that it is what it is,
and it's happening to everybody in the league. It's not
just Michael. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, that's something that you know, we're just gonna have
to have to get over the Woords. Skip Man, he
got the trip man.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
He called out.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
He caught out Travis for getting baptized before the Jaguars game.
That that don't make nose. Listen, listen, listen to what
Travis said and his response to it.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yes, it's a crazy course and why did I get that?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
By Sunday Guy's Day and I've been planning to take
get baptized for a minute, you know, change my life over,
become a better man. What I mean too, he's a lot,
you know, becoming a better man, leaving my old slesh
and she's becoming a new traveler.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You have a problem with him getting uh baptized when
he got baptized or whatever the situation may be.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
That kind of threw me off, Like why did you
get baptized? She said it like she had a problem
with it or something. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, that kind of that kind of you know, that
kind of made me feel some type of way, like
like calling somebody out because they got baptized, like calling
somebody off of going to church on Sunday. Like it
don't it don't it don't make no sense? Like are
you out of your mind? So you're you're telling me
that the timing is not right for someone to except
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they lord and save, and that he he said he
was checking himself out. Huh, he's checking himself out. No, No,
he's checking himself in. In he's checking himself in. Matthew
nineteen twenty six says, but Jesus looked at them and said,
with man, this is impossible. But with God, all things
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are possible. He's realizing that this isn't just him okay.
He wants to cleanse himself off his sins.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Leave his old life behind, his old ways to thinking
he's old ways of living, and start to follow his
Lord and say, Jesus Christ, you telling me the timing
nay right? No?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Right now is the time? You sound like you that
timing name right? You sound like the devil. Skip.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
That sounded like something the devil would say because of
a football stop stick to football man, get out of here.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I feel, Deba, you are one thousand percent right. Sunday
is the Law's day at the end of the day.
And yes, I'm never the religion is really big in
my family. I know it's really big in your family.
I'm a godfriend man, and I'm never pushing any religion
onto anybody. But if somebody's accepting their Lord and Savior
and want to get baptized and do what they got
to do, I'm so happy for him because I think
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he's opening a new chapter, like you said, in his life,
and it's gonna be nothing but better for him because
it's bigger than me. I know that everybody spiritually, however,
they feel this world is.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Bigger than us. So for him to do that, I
appreciate hapadity for him.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
It's not because he had nothing to do with nothing
that we worried about it. This is a bigger thing.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
And did he miss the game? Was he late? No?
Any of that game? In time?
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Everything was there, was able to make his things because
there's twenty four hours in a day. Nobody is sitting
there clocking you what you were doing this morning before
you came to your job. Like Travis Hunter, he has
a job to do. He has to be there two
hours before the kickoff. I know I'm not sitting to
know exactly, but I'm thinking that he made all of
his times and all of his places that he had
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to be expected that he was there, you know what
I'm saying, and still did we had to do. So
I can't understand where Skip is coming from. I know
people just get so wrapped up in football football and
make the main thing, the main thing, stay singularly focused.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I don't know, are you clout chasing? Like are you
trying to get a headline? Like I don't what's going
on that? Don't even do that just sounds crazy to me,
like that don't make sense. You're checking out because you're
checking in with your Lord and Savior and saying, Yo,
you are the lord of my life.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I want to follow you. I want to listen to
your commands. I want to be obedient.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Like what huh? Yeah? Yeah? How do you even bring
that out and say that? Skip? You like, like, what
are you thinking now? I don't understand that one to.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Call out this man accepting this lord's savior as him.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Checking Oh, they got he got it, he got it.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Sound like just not the only person that would say
you was checking out. If you was doing that would
be the devil and you was checking out.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Of hell, she ain't lying, Debo. I don't know how
he came up with that one. Brother, that's not a
good spot for us. I don't think Skip. I think
he kind of just he spoke out of turn. That's
not I don't that's that's not what it is. And
then checking out when he's getting baptized. I mean, it's
just not not not.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
The right, not the right, not the right words, not
the right verbiage. Skip, Skip must not do nothing before
he go to work. I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe maybe who knows, I don't know, So I guess
New York was involved with the Jared Golf touchdown. So
what happened on that one?
Speaker 5 (45:52):
I think this was they talking about New York called
down brother and was able to like get in touch
with the refs and told them that make it not
a touchdown because of the pre snap, because of the
snot because they said you can't go line up under
the center of behind the center and then you got
to step back and then go on motion. So they
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said the play wasn't the right play. So that's that's
how it went down. And they're saying now that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
That's not the league isn't supposed to be able to
get in touch with the refs. That's what I was thinking,
you know what I'm saying. They said, depending on how
the play, the integrity.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Of the game, all of that stuff, the NFL, the
league isn't supposed to be able to get in touch
with the refs and tell them to switch this call
or make this call whatever it was. So I think
they're saying that because they could if they can call
in and make a call, then they could call in
and you know what I'm saying switch such a little
kind of do whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, that's a that's a little too much.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
If you're going to do that, then you're you're you've
got to allow it for any in every situation.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Then mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
All these touch pushes a view. You've seen a review
that he was off. He went before the ball shooting
New York call down and say, hey, quick though, yeah,
don't allow that. Don't same thing with you know, with
other players. At what point, you know, do they say, oh, well,
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maybe the league is fixed, as he's saying, you know
the league's fixed. You know they're doing what's necessary to
keep the points spread, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And you know, you involve gambling, like.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
They said, it gets It gets tricky when you get
people overstepping the boundaries of what the rules of the
gang says, Yeah so I don't, Yeah I don't. Maybe
we could have got some. It wouldn't even helped us yesterday. Bro,
it didn't matter what they did. No, no, no, no, no, no,
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we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
That was that was that was a solid they did.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
They nothing nothing, nothing foggy, nothing illegal. They just went
down there and did exactly what they had to do.
In between the whistles. Dude, we came up five hundred yards. Brother,
Jamar Chase and t Higgins had combined for twenty four
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catches for two hundred and fifty seven yards and two touchdowns.
Two players, Bro, Brother, that was crazy, y'all gotta put
eyes on that, man.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I don't at something gotta change, Bro, I don't, Yoe,
I am so lost. It was looking wicked. How how dude?
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How much? How much? How much paper we got over
there on defense? Bro? Like? How much did we spend
on that? Bro? Like? So hundred and seventy something? Mel
twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty six, twenty eight. What is we?
What is it we now? Or is it just you
or us?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Me?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
What are Joe? We? We? We? I said, But are
you talking about it's still a defense, right? Yeah? I said,
one hundred and it's like one hundred and seventy nine million.
You ain't feeling what I'm feeling. You. You you was
more upset when the Browns lost this. When I'm trying
to tell you, Debo, I don't feel the equal upsets.
(49:37):
You're not matching my energy because because.
Speaker 7 (49:41):
I know what it is.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
No, I'm both, I'm both. I'm a still this man too,
But I just know we we got a rod. We
got a rod defense. We still it's still Jayalen Ramsey. There,
it's still sligh, It's still hey, We're it's still Queen. Well,
we're gonna we just gotta go to the tape. We
just gotta watch the tape. We can't keep letting this happen.
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I know we have the talent to make it happen.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
So that's why I'm not we don't watch the tape
the last six weeks and.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
It really old much.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
I know, I know, I know, but I think now, Coach,
we just we can't. Yeah, we're gonna have to just
come up with a better game plan than that. And no,
and we have to win our own individual one on ones.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
We just gotta win.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Win when yes, yes, listen, do your job, do your
job or your job is done first, that's all that
your partner you're one to eleven, don't That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
People don't even need to worry about their partner yet
because they're not doing their job. Like if everybody was
just doing their job on their man, and you know
what I'm saying, then then we'll be the defense will
be so much better.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
No shit, Joe, So niggas they stop runing, got free, bro,
I'm light way shaking.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Bro'm listen all right, Look, Debo, I.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Know we got some you want me to get to.
You want me to give you some super chats. Do
some super chests, man, let me do some super chests
for you, all right? I got some super chat questions.
This is from Grayson Brown nine seven seven eight. He
donated said why are road AFC North teams two and
eighteen individual Indivisional Thursday Night Football zher and ten in
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the last ten games?
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Who was your mouth asking the question? He don't want
to hear.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
What you're saying is oh and seven Thursday Night Football
feels rigged.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Well that wasn't a question. It was more of a state.
I think we're letting them rig it so we can lose.
Are you a goofball? No? B who asked that question?
Speaker 2 (51:51):
That's Grayson Brown. Brother, y'all about to make me lose
my religion. Okay, I'm gonna say something that ain't And
then we got another one to de boy.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah he going.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
Champ Champ jyll Champ. J y'all says no excuses. They
had a short week too. They had a short You're
right they did, but you're right, we played like trash
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trashy trash trash the defense that stand man, I'm just
trying to grasp something to give me some hope.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
And every time I try to grasp something to give
me some hope, I know. Good damn well, it's an
excuse because just as he said, we all played on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
We all had a short week. All that Thursday nights away.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Games got out of Die Bullfragle Rock.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
We played like trash.
Speaker 5 (52:56):
We yep, that one slip man, that was slipped and
they did then. And the Bengals did do good that
that pick. But he had they played, they made plays.
They did make plays, all right. Another one for you, Debo,
Sully Griffin, great show today. Do you stick with Flacco
for the rest of the season, if for Cincinnati, or
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save Burrow for next season.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
I'll go with Flacco until Burrow gets one healthy, and
then I'm throwing Burrow back in there that I need
Flacco to go in.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
We need to.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
We played them again, bru Still, don't let this man
do this to y'all again us because Joe ain't with us.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
I am definitely with you out brow.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Don't put on your elf costume with the with the
little feet, the browns elf.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Go get your where you're dog. You ain't even got
a dog. You don't even know where. I even said that,
but I don't know it don't matter. The whole stillness
teme in here too. You probably go get a dog
right now. Two three, I gotta see that, man. I'm rapping,
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all right? Who else we got?
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
What you got? What else you got? Bro?
Speaker 5 (54:14):
I want to what my man say, we got Alexander Gallan.
No more stealers, they play ten defense.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
What's that? I don't know what that means. No more
stealers they play ten defense. I don't know. All right,
Next one, okay, he's saying, we play with ten men
on the field. You damn shows seemed like it. Damn
damn what are you saying? Go ahead, man?
Speaker 5 (54:44):
Next one, okay, Lynch Lisa donated twenty dollars. Love you too,
God bless you and family. Amen, God bless you tooyank you.
That's a sweetar right there. But I think my man
he must have said some stellers they play with He
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still has play with ten on defense.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
That's crazy work, dude, I don't. Hey, I don't. I
don't know. No, it would have been worse than that,
if I guess if it was ten. But I don't. Listen,
we gotta get that.
Speaker 5 (55:24):
Yeah, it's it's like it's rn and passed the bow
because because the man Chase Brown was total and then
the receivers was catching it and everybody was kind of
open besides them.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
First, the worst team rushing the ball just bopped us.
They did, they did, they bopped us, they did. I'm pistol.
I'm pissed, almost ten of toe. What are we doing
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getting toted on you? Oh? You think this ship funny? No,
it's not funny. It's it's not funny. It's so embarrassing. Man,
it's not funny. Game tonight, right, And I gotta sit
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there and try and not. I'm a I'm about my son.
If and they listen, somebody gotta get it. Somebody gotta
get it. Somebody gotta get it tonight today.
Speaker 5 (56:37):
Oh he said somebody. He said, they meant. He meant
like tenfoil, tenfoil, That's what he said.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Okay, it's the same thing. We're older. What's the difference.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
I don't it's.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Hey, listen, I'm gonna try and calm down. I really
am so so this is what we're gonna do. Yes, Yo,
it's something running through my body like it's it comes
and goals. It's like just want to just rage.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Oh yeah, Hold look what we got de bo.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
We trash, bro We trash. Listen, Bro, y'all want me
to come back. I ain't got nothing left. I ain't
gonna lie to you, but I don't. I I can't
do no worse.
Speaker 5 (57:35):
I know you're gonna I know you're gonna throw your
body in there full speed.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
That's one thing you're gonna do. You're gonna hit somebody, don't.
I don't. I can't.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
I know one thing I can't help. I'm not trying
to yo, son. I'm talking to my son. He ain't
even watching this. But boy, if y'all let anybody get
ten total on.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
Y'all do it. They trash too. Bro. I know they
got Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
Okay, I understand that, I understand it, But that's one
person the offensive line couldn't block, couldn't do nothing, but
they came out there and dog walked us.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
BRO asked Joe Flack, I was throwing that thing on time.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
But that's what happened when twenty eight go against thirty
two because we down there with the trash too. We
gotta get out.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Of the dumpster. We got to bro too many yards,
too many yards.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Hey, guys, we want to thank you guys for joining
us here on this episode of DEEPO and Joe. Make
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Monday and we could talk about what happening with the
rest of the teams that didn't do as good as
they thought they was gonna do.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
And we all
Welcome back to Debo and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with
my co host, Joe Hayden As. Sure you like and
subscribe to our channel. You don't want to miss nothing. Yo,
I think my camera just went. I think I'm getting
some I'm some interference, some type of technical difficulties. Can
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you guys see what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm getting a lot of noise here. What the hell
is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeao?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I think yo, it's storming out all right now? Man
camera dude, like it's crazy. I don't know what's going
not hold up, bro, I think the dog water my
door right here. Bro, I don't know what is going on.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yo, I think we're gonna have to cancel this. Bro,
we gonna have to pick this up on Monday. I
can't I can't see or hear anything. Bro, you got
some more money.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You're good. You're good. I see you both. You're good.
You're right on the screen. You're good to go. We're here.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
We got we gotta do today. We got to talk about.
We gotta talk about what happened you started. Yeah, you're
trying to malfunction.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I was looking.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I was looking for you over there, trying you over there,
trying to suck up the system because you don't want
to talk about the Steelers game.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I was I was trying to get my glasses, that's what. Okay, Okay, Yeah,
we're here. We here the we're here.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
We gotta talk about We got to talk about it.
You did you see the game? Did you see the game?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah? Yeah, I saw the game. Did you watch the
whole entire thing? I watched. I watched the whole entire thing.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, yeah, listen, Okay, okay, listen the first drive. Listen.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was okay, but like I was a little nervous
because we got behind the chained with the little false
start at the first drive. Okay, third and eleven, and
then he hit my guy d K because they put
in one on one. That was that was yeah, thirty
nine right there, great, great, you gotta start. Jayalen came through.
It was like three carres of he he got about
twenty twenty yards or so, you know, and yeah we
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get we get that good, nice little ten yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Baby opened it up. Giving all that time. Yeah time.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It was a lot of seven seven nothing, dude, seven nothing.
Bengals offense come out there, we go ahead, jump on
their neck. Second down, we get that good sack on them,
and then they're able to convert on the third and
fourteen for eighteen yards.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah. Throw the ball on time. Yeah, he was doing
the ball on real, real, real, long time. But you know,
we hold them up, you know we do. We gotta do.
We make them.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We make them punt one of only what three times
that we made him punt? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Offense comes out. Yeah, what happened, bro? What happened?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
When the office came out, Bro, the steels offense. Yes, well,
we punted the first way we punt it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The second time we came out, bruh.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
The second time we came out, re punted, and the
third time we came out, we got a field goal.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
No, dude, that not his first pick then, no, no, no, no, no, no,
hey Rod.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
At the beginning of the game, bro, we started good
the first two the first at the first quarter, it
was like ten ten zero, you know what I'm saying,
Because we went down the first drive obviously we scored.
Then we stopped the Bengals on their first two drives
and then our next drive we got a field goal.
You know what I'm saying now, that's when it was ten.
When it was ten to nothing, d bo, that's when
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everything for the Steelers was looking good. Everything was fine.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, when ship came immediately out after we went up
ten to nothing, Yes, that's when it hit the crame
in their head for twenty seven yards off rick linebacker
or the d lineman was out of the position, didn't
get to where they needed to get to, dude.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And then on the third and ten they get fifteen, like.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Come on, get a touchdown called back and still run
to play the next play and hit the same hit
Chase again.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Getting we ten, we tend.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Seven Jamar Chase a lot of we lose too much Chase.
We're gonna get get to that anyway. We're don't go
play by play rundown. Then we're gonna give them the
end of what we really think happens.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Now. That's where they come back out death and the
Bengals going not not the Bengals. There's still stealers. And
that's when we come out and throw that piss. The
anothers come out when we throw a pick, like I understand,
trying to.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Like get the ball to him. But like on that one,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
That's not a good play right there, That's not a
good pick. It was the the corner was on top obviously,
and the safety was leaning over that way. He was
looking at the safety safety was running over there. It
was either the corner order say that he was gonna
pick it. He didn't need to throw that ball like
that was just an unnecessary turn over that we had
for show. That was a bad That was when that
was a bad play for Rogers on our part. Like that,
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when I was looking at I was, I'm like, now
the momentum is starting to shift.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes, they get the ball back and they crack us
in the head for thirty seven on the first place. Yes,
he I'm ad a loss, get a PI.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And then he come to other receiver Higgins Higgins twenty
nine yard touchdown and he runs.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
The slant straight through the defense like it's wide open.
And that's when Joe throwing it on time, Boom hits him.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
He cuts up in between.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Four of the still his defenders like that. It just
it looked I was throwing on time. And then that's
when they started picking our defense apart. Brother zones. Man's
running every third and.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Then immediately I'm thinking, yeah, we got a chance. The
offense is still moving the ball.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We go out. I ain't gonna lie, dude, dude to
play on that ball. Oh my goodness, DJ DJ Turner.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
The second that play was amazing, like being able to
play through the hands, discipline, didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Interfere the ball, got it down. Ain't got the knee down.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, got down now, don't don't, don't, don't forget.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He got down. He had to get down like he won.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
One knee is two feet. He got that knee down
and had control of the ball. It was no DK
was trying to rough it back.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
They was like, is the ball wobbling moving? I'm like, no,
it's not. That's all.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a pick. Well at least
that time we was able to hold him to a
field goal. So yes, it's ten. It's ten to seventeen.
You know, ain't feeling too bad, still feeling like, you know,
we could we could possibly do something, get it going,
and we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The Bengals offense comes out in the third quarter and
they converted fourth down.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm thinking, yo, the best we can hope.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
For is a field goal and we get that, get
the field, We get the field, we get we hold
him to a field goal.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It's Ramsey made a good stop on with on T
Higgins in the end zone to be able to stop
a touchdown on there.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So definitely defense stood up there. Got a field goal. Cool.
So we're looking at twenty to ten.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, offense come out there and we finally started getting
something going. Get a couple of runs from war you know,
Rogers starts making some some good throws. We're a little
behind the chains on that third down though, we were
what was it third nineteen twenty eighteen eighteen, something like
that Friar move come through for us down ball to move,
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I moved balled out seventeen twenty. Man, I'm feeling good now.
I'm thinking, yo, all right, not a you know, not
a defense gonna wake up. You know what happened this
old man Flacco that the Browns should have never gave
to the Bengos goals and does a whole drive just nothing,
eight passes, dude on the field, sixty seven yards, touchdown.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Yes, and doing that drive. The big player I liked
on the third down that he converted. It was third
and four when slave they came down and they was
basically in a zero coverage just Island Jamar Chase safety
came dropped down, left them zero coverage with that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And he just black.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I was throwing it on time, looking at the players
man and man okay, Boom like dropped it right over
his head on that deep third and fourths to convert
there for them to be able to get down there
to score. So I'm like, Flaco was looking good. Defense
was not making those plays that they needed to make.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh, no question. But again, dude, it's not it's not over.
It's not over. Over, it's not over.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
We're going ahead and punch one thirty seven for Jayalen
going and bust one thirty seven on the next On
the next drive, the very first play, Roger, you know,
Rogers finishes it all touchdown with ay. It's twenty four
to twenty seven. I'm like, yo, we got we got
real shot, real chance here, Like defense, go hold. You
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know what I'm saying. Flacco and the dude, the running
back Brown dude, I'm even with a holding penalty, dude,
putting them that we still had. We still gave it
a field goal. Yes, Like I'm upset.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I mean, it was a lot of mister Simons there though,
Like the when the tight end caught that pass and
got like a thirty eight yard completion, Like that's just
mister Simons, you know what I'm saying. Dudes running Scott
Free down the field. They was able to hold him,
but you just can't do that, like dudes running wide open.
I can see if they can test it, but one
of Scott Free, that's mister Simons.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
No question. Man. Then the offense they come back out,
they do it three out and.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm like, y'all, no, this ain't going I'm like, yo, please,
defense just hold them just one time, give them, give
me one time.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
And they do it right they do, like them out
got his sack.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm like, we got this, m dude, we go and
get a big play.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
This is the only time. I'm like, we donet gauge
them a big play. We done got a big play.
We're done score the touchdown. This great, We're a thirty one.
Now thirty one to thirty is too much time left
for Joe Flacco.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Too minutes twenty one seconds debo, and this is when
all the game, this is for all the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Marbles, Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase. I was I
just got tired of hearing his name.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And now look, this is what I'm thinking. It's looking
like we're leaning back on a lot of those are
in like zones. Get out there, if you gotta punk,
hit punch number two and get underneath number one because
we got Joey Porter and then like bailing out and
Jamar Chase is running those comebacks and curls like right
to the sideline.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm not understanding it, dude, I think what what it
came down to?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Dude, they started running the rock, we started putting eight
to nine in the box. Joe started doing run pass
option numhing it off. So we're trying and get him
off the box and like when you got him in
the box like that and he yo, they go with
manned up. Come on, stop man, you're talking about tomorrow
Chase and Higgins.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You But the time of the thing that was getting
me though, bro, was we were running.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
If we were running man coverage, we got to still
at the end of the day, try to still protect
the sideline. Like he's running, he's running deep benches like
twelve and ours, you know what I'm saying, getting the
ball and being able to get to the sideline, like
we should be able.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
To at least trap those. A couple of players.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I was looking with Jamar Chase random ones with Jayleen
Ramsey was running across in motion with him, and he
would run the out route. I would want slay outside
corner like you if you get outside released, look back in.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
He's in the slot. Jam Chase running out steal that.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like, have a say the
over top, you can't go steal that. So it was
just not good good plays. And then the last play
with so the ones that the safety tried to still
ended up being a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
For uh for for the Bangals. Oh yeah, they was,
they were They were tripping.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's safety. He needs to just be backing over the top.
I'm talking what I don't know what he was doing
on now he was wild. Now we got to use
our timeouts. We can't stop him.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Starfield go it was the grand Higgins caught the fade
ball to him and got down and didn't go score,
didn't go score, get the ball back.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I Q up there on a thousand. You wanted about
winning like trying to win. Yeah, dude, Yeah, it was
not dude, it was. It was not a pretty performance
by us at all. We have problems.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We have defensive problems, specifically run and past game. We
can't face nobody, dude. We don't play the Jets, who
we beat. But it was a nineteenth rank off dude.
They still gave up one hundred and eighty two yard Russians.
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That's like what four seven of pop? The running back
had five and some change of pop and justin he
ain't had that much, but he was efficient sixteen to
twenty two for two eighteen. We lost the Seattle, who
is a tenth rank offense. We gave up what four
yards of rush that game? Running back Walker that boy
(13:28):
had eight yards of pop. Ronald almost had three hundred.
Like we had two turnovers, but we gave up to
we traded. I think both got ten points. We broke
even their lost the game. And then New England twenty six.
In the rush dude got they got one hundred and
nineteen yards rushing, which ain't a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It ain't it ain't a lot four.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yards of rusher, So their biggest rusher was the quarterback.
I think he had maybe six of rush, but they
all had two hundred and seven yards pass. The only
reason we won that game is we got five turnovers.
They either stopped themselves from scoring or we stopped them
from scoring and ended up getting points from it. Plus
the quarterback was sacked five times and in key situations.
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So that win right there, we wouldn't have got it
without all of the turnovers and the pressure. Minnesota again,
twenty fifth, twenty first in or USh seventy yards.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Ain't bad, not bad at all, dude. We gave up.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
We gave up three point fifty pass it. We got
two turnovers that helped us. One field goal got blocked,
the other one we scored a touchdown on. But again
we got six sacks. We got pressure on it, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So we made them.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They wasn't doing everything great, but if it wasn't for
the fact that we got the turnovers, we'd have lost out.
And the Browns, dude, twenty eight they twenty eight on
everything man sixty five yards Russian, but they tried to
go in there and use a quarterback to pass the
ball fifty two times. You get him sacked and pressured
like that.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Was more than Browns.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
That's like yes, And then we get to the Bengals, Bruh,
dead last in the rush thirty first total, we give
up one hundred and forty two yards dude rushing six
a tot in the.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Running back brown yeah eleven for one oh eight almost
ten yards of tot.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
On top of we turned the ball over twice.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
They got ten points off of that and Flacco busters
for almost three fifty.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
We have a huge defense problem. I'm looking at the
talent we have. We have the talent, right, I'm thinking,
we have the talent. So what is going wrong? Bruh,
Like what you tell me? What is going wrong here?
This is what it is. Debo A lot of that
bend but don't break stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
We do that all the time. But there's too many
times when people are running scott free. There's too many
times where somebody's busting coverages or people are just running
wide open, do you know what I'm saying. So that's
where on the secondary part, I'm speaking on the secondary. First,
on the secondary there's too many miscommunications. There's too many
people running scott free on a lot of these things.
And then in their zones. If you're running the zone
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you gotta get to your zone. People need to be
in the spaces that they're supposed to be. When we're
bailing out on Jamar Chase and letting him just run
these courtner routs, you have to keep eyes on him, leverage, you.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Know what I'm saying, and then losing in one on ones.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
There were opportunities where when I love Jayalen Rambley, but
when you're playing on the dude and you're outside and
you're having them dudes, those are plays that that they
made and we did it, you know what I'm saying.
Those places that they're making that we're not making are
hurting that defense. Then at the same time, when you
go to the running game, these are explosive plays. These
dudes were running every time they toted it. They were
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getting to the second level. That's on who's that's on
your defensive line.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
On the front line.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Dude, that's on your front now on your front line, right,
get him some pushback and.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Getting him contact.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
He needs to be getting contacted before he gets to
the second level, like secondary making tackles. That's because you're
somebody else in the front is messing up. It's a
whole lot easier to look at Jayalen Ramsey, to look
at Jarius Slay, to look at the secondary because those
dudes are out there on the island playing versus ballers.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So if nobody's getting to them, you're gonna be able to.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
See their mistakes a whole lot more glaring, because you
know what I'm saying, they're out there on the forefront.
When your dude's running eleven carries for one oh eight,
why is he get to the second level each time?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
If you're able to be that successful in the run,
now you have to try and stop the run, which
opens up your opportunities for easier deeper passes because now
you've got to bring more people down into the box
to try and stop the run.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
When you can't stop the run, it opens up the
past period.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And the only reason we've been able to win is
Aaron went bukoo against the Jets.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Okay, they did.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's why we want to the defense.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You're not even the defense.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
The Patriots turned everything over, Minnesota couldn't protect, and the
Browns they had a rookie quarterback. Yeah, like, we don't
spend all this paper over here on defense. And don't
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get me wrong, like I said, the offense. Yes, they
have some issues too. It's it's issues on the offense side.
But we didn't spend all that money over there on
the offense. Yeah, we got DK but yeah, and you
can't effectively run the ball like we gotta do dump
game alternatives for running the ball because our offensive line
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isn't effective. Now we got we got fifty eleven tight
ends that we just started using. Last week we.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Scored thirty one points. Debo. The still is supposed to Yes,
that's all I'm saying it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
HEAs they're famine around here, and and and and and
it starts with with with turnovers and pressure rather we
get them or it's self inflicted. And then we ended
up picking them up because of the other team. They
do fumbled the rock. How many times are doing what?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Three? Two? Three for it?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
It looked like a replay. He kept coughing the ball.
It was three about three? Yeah, I don't I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like, we have to get this fixed. On the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You can plainly see where like you said, guys are
missing the signus are we are? Are we not understanding
what we're doing? Are we not explaining this well enough?
If this is a coaching is this a coaching issue,
like or is it just playing out? You're just getting
beat and you can't get to the spot that you
need to be at and be able to do the
job that you need to do.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's everything, I believe, dude.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I think when when when you see and at the
same it's a lot of those because I was watching plays, brother,
like when they had to drive the ball down on
the last drive to go to go score and Jamar
Chase ran the under route and he and the text
message that you said he was fifth, like nobody was
in the screen, And that's Jamar Chase running the underneath
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route for eighteen yards when all they have to do
is get down and field goal range to win the game.
Like that's just how was he doing that? And that's
that's accountability. Like it looked like it's three three.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It looked like a fire zone coverage, and that means
that had to be maybe changing. I mean, you can
see what's his name, linebacker six?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, six, But I'm I'm I'm saying we're not in
the locker room exactly. But it's either you got a
fires you know what I'm saying. You can see confused.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
He's pointing, trying to tell somebody to go here or
go there, and nobody moves to it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
When when emotions, I'm like, but.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Yeah, long, social they need to get on the tape room,
the film room because those things don't need to be happening.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
People that ended up running Scott free.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Like you said, Jamar Chase, there's no reason he should
be running down the field wide open for an eighteen
yard game when y'all trying to prevent a field goal
to win the game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, and like immediately, dude, I'm like thirty one to thirty,
I'm like two minutes and change. Not liking it, yo,
And dude jump up like you go, come on, man,
this young stuff that you're doing to a forty one
year old quarterback. You go jump on this man's back
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and tackling. You know, you could have broken hip like this.
He's a quarterback. He is fragile. You can't you can't
go doing all that celebration and celeb Now it looks
real bad because we couldn't hold nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Dude, We're going to be in trouble. Trouble like we
haven't faced a top half offense.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I take it back New England was sixteen, but it
took five turnover, six sacks to get that accomplished. Right, Yeah, Yo,
we're not going to get that again is Green Bay.
We're not going to get that against Indianapolis. We're not
going to get that against Los Angeles. That's not going
to I'm even worried about Chicago now because they fourteen
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one flow.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Come on, man, if we like you said, though it's
not a it's not a personnel problem, we do have
the personnel to do it. We are opportunistic. They do
get a lot of turnovers. They just got to win
first downs, like getting behind the sticks. They weren't getting
them behind the sticks, or if they did and flow,
Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Was throwing it on time.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Even when we got behind the six twelve fourteen stuff
like that, Blaco was balling.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He was throwing the ball on time.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And that's when you got amnion one on ones and
be able to get after the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
So I mean, yes, we're getting no pressure.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Like, dude, we gotta face Detroit to All they do
is run the ball effectively.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, that that's going that That could be, dude, be trouble.
That could be trouble.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Oh, you stress it out. Huh bruh, you stressing out.
But look this the thing, This the thing, y'all. We
still still still scored thirty one points. The offensive line
protector Aaron Rodgers, he was standing upright a lot of
the game. He was able to make plasses. Jaylen Warren
was totaling the running game did Look its Bengals.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
They still won though the bank we can't be it's
any given Sunday. And now the Bengals with Flacco, shi
he Flacco's not a dummy.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You know what. I realized, if you.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Got a gut, if you got a better receiver than
the then the Bengals defense, it still ain't help us win.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The defense got to show up at some point in time. Look,
we don't know when's the last time.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It wasn't that this low? What are we? Twenty six?
That was a good.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
That was a that was the defense played bad that game,
for sure, But that was a good. That was a
good football game. That was a good football game by
the offensive side of the ball and by Joe Flaccos because.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He was throwing the They don't give a damn about
a good football game. I'd rather be sitting here talking
about how we won ugly, then how we I don't
care how good the game was.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Joe, hey man, listen, that's that's that's that's that, that's that.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Uh, it's any given Sunday debo. Now you're going back
to when they won all those games and saying, oh, no,
they only they didn't play. You play against who you
play in the stadium. You can't be talking out of
both sides of your mouth, do you know what I'm saying.
You gotta give them credit when they win, and then
when they lose, definitely bash them. But at the end
of the day, if Aaron Rodgers didn't throw two picks,
we still probably.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Still won the game, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Like the defense did make a couple of stops at
the end of the game. On the fourth quarter, offense
could have drove it instead of punting the ship.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That with the other two stops was early in the
first quarter and the fourth they made the last eight
possession they scored seven or eight.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What is you talking about, bru They made one start
your job one time, one time in the fourth just once.
That's it, one time, huh. They they didn't play good.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
They sid they needed they needed another one obviously, or
they wouldn't have lost the game.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You know what, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk this up.
I'm gonna talk this up to Thursday night road games.
That's what I'm gonna talk it up to.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Quick, quick, quick turnaround. Man, Flack only had three days
of practice.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It's Thursday night road game. So that's we got the
worst Thursday night road game performance ever. Like, it's the
longest streak in forty five years on Thursday night. I
guess what, y'all? The record is still his record. There's
still his record, buddy, Yes, yes, I guess road games
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over the last what since two thousands? And I take
it back, you go all the way back to eighty.
Now we see why Coach T was pissed though.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, it ain't no, it ain't pretty.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't think Coach T done rode one on Thursday
night road game in his career.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's wild. Yeah, I'll sat, I was I was today
years old. Now that's what I'm gonna talk it up to. Then, Yeah,
talk it up to Thursday. Chalk it up to a
short week.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, chalk it up to Thursday. Talk it up to
a short week. Talk it up to miscommunication. It's Thursday,
and everything happened because it was third is a road
game away, That's what I'm gonna go with, even though
I know it's bullshit. We've been playing as a defense
like trash. We've just been able to get splash plays,
sacks at the right times, and all that.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Other stuff to be able to beat mediocre teams. Oh okay, okay,
shootouts and shootouts.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, no, you speaking facts. The defense has to play better.
They have to. They have the talent, they have, the
play they have, the players.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They got to get that jail on tape because the
running defense is not looking good, and then the passing defense.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I mean even in the on the offensive side, like
we're having we're having eras of what's going on. People
don't know what's going The flicker, du He's like, what
are you doing? Like I can, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I can the fleet flicker running the wrong play? Yeah,
he was five, was hot, dude. I just.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'll get over it, you know what, dom Yo, just
feeling a losing don't feel as bad as it do
when you're actually there and you lose it. So how
I'm feeling, I know they feeling way worse. So hopefully
that feeling to motivate them, coaches, players, everybody alike to
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get whatever fixed we need to get fixed and get
this thing moving in the right direction, like.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
As a with a twenty six twenty eight. We're not
We're not. We're not gonna go nowhere.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
These offenses that we're going to face in the next
what four or five weeks, they ain't. They ain't turn
the rock over like that. They they they doing things
more effective than anybody.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That we've played yet to date. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
If we come out there playing like we've been playing
the last six seven weeks, we gonna get the band
struck up on us. We're go getting bears, they gonna
dog walkers. Damn drop your nuts, man, put your foot
in the ground. Stand for something, dude. We can't even
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bust a grape and a fruit fight right now.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
No, I mean, the stats don't lie, and they be
running that ball. They be totally so you know they
got it. They I know they got pride, man, I
know they got pride in that locker room and they
don't want to hear us talking about how bad this
they'll run defense is and Deebo over there looking pissed.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So, dude, not just the run the past every dude everything.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I'm more with the pass defense too, Like you said, Debo,
I mean it's the total defense.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's both. I'm not gonna lie. I'm more like to run.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I feel far better if somebody beat me passing that
because they were just quick getting out the hands or something.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
But when you run the ball on somebody, you have
to physically move them out of your right way and
make create holes.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yes, that that's demoralizing, that you can't stop another man
from putting you where he wants you so they can
go where they want to.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
They're imposing a will on you. Yes, yep, yep, yep. Yeah,
I'm putting my foot on your neck. But I just look.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yeah, now that's a bad feeling too as a dB,
just watching your boys just getting tossed out the way
and you know that you got to make that tackle
or he's going to strike up the band on a
run play.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's crazy. Yes, getting scored on, dude on the run
play that ain't.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Even on a run play that because we on the
goal line if it's if it's three yards or less
like even men, you got to drop down and stand up.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, every blade, every blade of grass. Debot, you gotta
call every blade.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't even know what we came from here today.
Thank you are not you.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
You were not expecting this debot and that is that
is sure. I can tell you are perplexed. You are
a little yeah, you can you get You get a
little frustrated when it's still You get frustrated when it's
still lose for show. You tried to have camera miss
malfunctions this morning. It was I was looking for my glasses. Uh,
That's what I was doing. I was really looking for
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my glasses. But yo, right now we trash mhm, yeah, bro,
you are overreacting, debo. I'm overreacting. I promise you you are, brother, No,
not unless you are in the brown That's that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's the Browns, you dirty, rotten bastards. Then went and
gave them.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yep, they definitely did that, though, next time we see
y'all did that. Joe Flacco is a smart man. I
love watching him play quarterback now because at least he
understands when he was with the Browns.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I mean, I don't you give him too much? What
I'm doing them? Too much? What positive energy over here?
I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
No, Bro, this is what I'm saying. You're gonna sit
here and not give him not no, not not not positive?
But did you not watch the game? Did you not
see him picking us apart? And even if he was
throwing those passes, you know what I'm saying, Like he
could have been throwing them into the dirt, but he
was throwing them right on the money, and Jamar chasing them,
was catching them past this and the offensive coordinate.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
This is why you don't give him Joe Flacco exactly.
I didn't give him Joe Flacco. Make me lose?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, get mad, debau go ahead. I'm telling you because
you gotta be a realist. You saw the game, and
you're not giving Joe Flack credit for looking like a
beast out there and dropping them dimes to Jamar.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Chase and Higgins. Who who I'm gonna give who? No, no, no, no, no,
you're not gonna say. You're not gonna say Fla did
hate Listen. I don't hate him. I don't hate Joe flaccoh,
I like Joe.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
How who you do? I hate?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
The Browns is an organization, Okay, whoever, whoever they, whoever
made that decision. I hope they go down there and
beat the breaks off yard ass. I'll we throw for
four twenty five six touchdown. Hey, it was nothing, but you.
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I feel you best for you, Joe, when you play
the Browns, dog walcome dog walcome.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Broh, Hey, he might mess around it. Look, he might
mess around and do it. I don't think that was
a smart decision at all. Like I don't. I don't
agree with you one thousand Becai. We should never what
you get.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
For it nothing. You ain't getting nothing for it. You
traded a couple of you ain't getting nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
For getting than we got Nate than you, bro, y'all
about to mess around. I was looking for the Joe
that was throwing picks. This Joe. This is not the
Joe I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Bro, That Joe.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Bro, that Joe, and you put him in there with
these receivers. Mano, Bro, are you kidding me? Like That's
what I'm trying to tell you. That's why.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Man, Yeah, Joe Flacco, he realized something. These dudes are
really good on my team. I'm not going to stand
back here and look, goofy. I want to throw the ball.
We ain't getting no pressure on it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We ain't.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
We ain't rerouting nobody. We ain't stopping nobody from just
going where they want to go. We ain't getting no
hands on nobody. He throwing on, he throwing on time.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
He's you know, he throwing as soon as a dude
cut the brake.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Bro He's like, right right before the break, boom, throw
your hands up right here, go ahead, Flacco. I respect it.
I respect it because it just shows that it wasn't him.
I mean, he got some players on the team he's
gonna throw away.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
They need to be.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
You gotta put them, see, they got to be where
they gotta be. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And he's not out there. Did this thing, Yes, Joe,
Joe did this thing. That's for the old guys. Yes, yo, Joe,
go ahead, yeah, Uncle bo all that stuff. Uncle went
out there and put the belt out on our ass.
Put belt to ask, as they say.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
As they as the youngins say, oh my goodness, man,
oh man, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Listen, man, let's just go over here, man to the north.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Listen, Michael Parsons calls out the one side of officiating.
Here's here's what he had to say. You know what's
so bad, bro, I can't even get my mind off
of this. Let's listen to what Michael said.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Now, you know, five years are not getting call, you'll
eventually start worrying about it, you know, But you know,
I think I just gotta keep going. That's just that's
the hunt. Yeah, Like that's part of the challenges, Like
you just gotta keep going. And that's bothersome that that
worries them. They know that, Like that's the part of
being one of the best. You know, that comes with
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uh some territory where the parts that you hate and
the parts of the league.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Let's go.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Like they know, Like I mean, you can tell how
they call the games. They don't call out sides for offense,
but they'll call on defense. They'll they won't call offensive
passing offerens, but they'll call defensive passing offerens.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I mean, like, we know what you're trying to do.
They want to load the points up so fans can
be happy.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
And you know what I mean, they'll call defensive holding,
but they won't call OFFENSI holding like like, let's just
wake up, Like it's just one of those things that
we know what the high trying to do, like the
reference say, I know that's a whole, but what like
you're not gonna call it, like come on, like it's
just one of those things that like I'm over and
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I would just have to keep going push.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
To What do you think? Man? You agreed? Disagree?
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Uh, it might sound like he's making excuses, you know
what I'm saying, but kind of you know, I mean
I played in the league too. Now for a minute,
and when we first got in. The rules are changing.
They do want points. The referees will tell you, like
they'll definitely let a defensive offensive passing appearance go before
you like get if you get a smidget of grabbing
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somebody's jersey or touching like that, they can call defensive
passing appearance, Uh, illegal touching and all that. So I
heard plenty of times like if a deep if I
get pushed off on or pusch.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Wasn't hard enough to stop you from being able to
go where you wanted to go? Yeah it was, you've
seen it. Well, I don't think it was enough to
stop you or impede you from being able to follow him.
All that hole wasn't enough. He held on to you,
but you know he let go fast enough. Believe me,
I got all that stuff. The block with the arm
around the neck. Oh he wasn't holding you. How's he
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not holding me? But his arm is around my neck?
Well you know you're short and he's taller than you. Well, yeah,
that's part of his advantage and disadvantages that we both have.
Like that should be a hole. I wan understand what
he's saying.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And yes, he's right.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
The game is getting tailored so that, you know, they
want to see points. That's what the fans want to see,
you know, they want to see these high scoring games
back and forth. I'm I'm not of that because probably
because we're defense might players.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Bro, when you play defense, it's like this, if he's
holding me, he's holding me.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You know what I'm saying, Like you.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Feel like it's very black and white if they if
they're if I was pulling on him, you're gonna call
on me. So it's kind of like you you understand
it more like when you play defense, we get it,
like no, that's not okay. But when you act like
you're hearing it, like when they saying to you, Dbo,
he had his arm around you because you were a
little shorter. It's like, but he's holding me. You know
what I'm saying, Throw the flag. You've seen it, you
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know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So they do that.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
It happens all the time, and defensive players we hear
it from the refs like man like he was bad,
Like nah, but he didn't impede your process.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
But like so they can grabbing me, he's impeding my process. Oh,
the jersey pull wasn't enough.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That's holding.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
He's pulling the jersey like he shouldn't be holding onto
the jersey at all.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Like, well he didn't. He didn't. You know, it wasn't
enough to stop you from being able to go. You
were able to push through it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, if he didn't pull me, maybe I get a
little closer to making that tackle or that sack, or
or or touching the quarterback to to you know, hit
hit the pass or interfere with his throwing motion, whatever
that may be.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
So I yeah, I one understand it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
But again he's going to have to understand it ain't
just you.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's the league. It's the league.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
It's the way it is and even speaking on it,
you know know what I'm saying, I mean not having
as many sacks as he wants right now.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You could be feeling some type of way.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
You just want to get out how you feel and
being serious about this is really legitimately happening. But putting
it out in the media is something that everybody kind
of we already know it is kind of nothing really
that they can be able to do about it, but
it could definitely get an eye on so people could
see like, look, you are getting held and they're not
calling it, but sometimes defensive players.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
You know what I'm saying that it is what it is,
and it's happening to everybody in the league. It's not
just Michael. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, that's something that you know, we're just gonna have
to have to get over the Woords. Skip Man, he
got the trip man.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
He called out.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
He caught out Travis for getting baptized before the Jaguars game.
That that don't make nose. Listen, listen, listen to what
Travis said and his response to it.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yes, it's a crazy course and why did I get that?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
By Sunday Guy's Day and I've been planning to take
get baptized for a minute, you know, change my life over,
become a better man. What I mean too, he's a lot,
you know, becoming a better man, leaving my old slesh
and she's becoming a new traveler.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You have a problem with him getting uh baptized when
he got baptized or whatever the situation may be.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
That kind of threw me off, Like why did you
get baptized? She said it like she had a problem
with it or something. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, that kind of that kind of you know, that
kind of made me feel some type of way, like
like calling somebody out because they got baptized, like calling
somebody off of going to church on Sunday. Like it
don't it don't it don't make no sense? Like are
you out of your mind? So you're you're telling me
that the timing is not right for someone to except
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they lord and save, and that he he said he
was checking himself out. Huh, he's checking himself out. No, No,
he's checking himself in. In he's checking himself in. Matthew
nineteen twenty six says, but Jesus looked at them and said,
with man, this is impossible. But with God, all things
(42:14):
are possible. He's realizing that this isn't just him okay.
He wants to cleanse himself off his sins.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Leave his old life behind, his old ways to thinking
he's old ways of living, and start to follow his
Lord and say, Jesus Christ, you telling me the timing
nay right? No?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Right now is the time? You sound like you that
timing name right? You sound like the devil. Skip.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
That sounded like something the devil would say because of
a football stop stick to football man, get out of here.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I feel, Deba, you are one thousand percent right. Sunday
is the Law's day at the end of the day.
And yes, I'm never the religion is really big in
my family. I know it's really big in your family.
I'm a godfriend man, and I'm never pushing any religion
onto anybody. But if somebody's accepting their Lord and Savior
and want to get baptized and do what they got
to do, I'm so happy for him because I think
(43:15):
he's opening a new chapter, like you said, in his life,
and it's gonna be nothing but better for him because
it's bigger than me. I know that everybody spiritually, however,
they feel this world is.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Bigger than us. So for him to do that, I
appreciate hapadity for him.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
It's not because he had nothing to do with nothing
that we worried about it. This is a bigger thing.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
And did he miss the game? Was he late? No?
Any of that game? In time?
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Everything was there, was able to make his things because
there's twenty four hours in a day. Nobody is sitting
there clocking you what you were doing this morning before
you came to your job. Like Travis Hunter, he has
a job to do. He has to be there two
hours before the kickoff. I know I'm not sitting to
know exactly, but I'm thinking that he made all of
his times and all of his places that he had
(43:59):
to be expected that he was there, you know what
I'm saying, and still did we had to do. So
I can't understand where Skip is coming from. I know
people just get so wrapped up in football football and
make the main thing, the main thing, stay singularly focused.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I don't know, are you clout chasing? Like are you
trying to get a headline? Like I don't what's going
on that? Don't even do that just sounds crazy to me,
like that don't make sense. You're checking out because you're
checking in with your Lord and Savior and saying, Yo,
you are the lord of my life.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I want to follow you. I want to listen to
your commands. I want to be obedient.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Like what huh? Yeah? Yeah? How do you even bring
that out and say that? Skip? You like, like, what
are you thinking now? I don't understand that one to.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Call out this man accepting this lord's savior as him.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Checking Oh, they got he got it, he got it.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Sound like just not the only person that would say
you was checking out. If you was doing that would
be the devil and you was checking out.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Of hell, she ain't lying, Debo. I don't know how
he came up with that one. Brother, that's not a
good spot for us. I don't think Skip. I think
he kind of just he spoke out of turn. That's
not I don't that's that's not what it is. And
then checking out when he's getting baptized. I mean, it's
just not not not.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
The right, not the right, not the right words, not
the right verbiage. Skip, Skip must not do nothing before
he go to work. I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe maybe who knows, I don't know, So I guess
New York was involved with the Jared Golf touchdown. So
what happened on that one?
Speaker 5 (45:52):
I think this was they talking about New York called
down brother and was able to like get in touch
with the refs and told them that make it not
a touchdown because of the pre snap, because of the
snot because they said you can't go line up under
the center of behind the center and then you got
to step back and then go on motion. So they
(46:14):
said the play wasn't the right play. So that's that's
how it went down. And they're saying now that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
That's not the league isn't supposed to be able to
get in touch with the refs. That's what I was thinking,
you know what I'm saying. They said, depending on how
the play, the integrity.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Of the game, all of that stuff, the NFL, the
league isn't supposed to be able to get in touch
with the refs and tell them to switch this call
or make this call whatever it was. So I think
they're saying that because they could if they can call
in and make a call, then they could call in
and you know what I'm saying switch such a little
kind of do whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, that's a that's a little too much.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
If you're going to do that, then you're you're you've
got to allow it for any in every situation.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Then mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
All these touch pushes a view. You've seen a review
that he was off. He went before the ball shooting
New York call down and say, hey, quick though, yeah,
don't allow that. Don't same thing with you know, with
other players. At what point, you know, do they say, oh, well,
(47:18):
maybe the league is fixed, as he's saying, you know
the league's fixed. You know they're doing what's necessary to
keep the points spread, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And you know, you involve gambling, like.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
They said, it gets It gets tricky when you get
people overstepping the boundaries of what the rules of the
gang says, Yeah so I don't, Yeah I don't. Maybe
we could have got some. It wouldn't even helped us yesterday. Bro,
it didn't matter what they did. No, no, no, no, no, no,
(47:49):
we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
That was that was that was a solid they did.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
They nothing nothing, nothing foggy, nothing illegal. They just went
down there and did exactly what they had to do.
In between the whistles. Dude, we came up five hundred yards. Brother,
Jamar Chase and t Higgins had combined for twenty four
(48:13):
catches for two hundred and fifty seven yards and two touchdowns.
Two players, Bro, Brother, that was crazy, y'all gotta put
eyes on that, man.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I don't at something gotta change, Bro, I don't, Yoe,
I am so lost. It was looking wicked. How how dude?
(48:54):
How much? How much? How much paper we got over
there on defense? Bro? Like? How much did we spend
on that? Bro? Like? So hundred and seventy something? Mel
twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty six, twenty eight. What is we?
What is it we now? Or is it just you
or us?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Me?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
What are Joe? We? We? We? I said, But are
you talking about it's still a defense, right? Yeah? I said,
one hundred and it's like one hundred and seventy nine million.
You ain't feeling what I'm feeling. You. You you was
more upset when the Browns lost this. When I'm trying
to tell you, Debo, I don't feel the equal upsets.
(49:37):
You're not matching my energy because because.
Speaker 7 (49:41):
I know what it is.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
No, I'm both, I'm both. I'm a still this man too,
But I just know we we got a rod. We
got a rod defense. We still it's still Jayalen Ramsey. There,
it's still sligh, It's still hey, We're it's still Queen. Well,
we're gonna we just gotta go to the tape. We
just gotta watch the tape. We can't keep letting this happen.
(50:03):
I know we have the talent to make it happen.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
So that's why I'm not we don't watch the tape
the last six weeks and.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
It really old much.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
I know, I know, I know, but I think now, Coach,
we just we can't. Yeah, we're gonna have to just
come up with a better game plan than that. And no,
and we have to win our own individual one on ones.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
We just gotta win.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Win when yes, yes, listen, do your job, do your
job or your job is done first, that's all that
your partner you're one to eleven, don't That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
People don't even need to worry about their partner yet
because they're not doing their job. Like if everybody was
just doing their job on their man, and you know
what I'm saying, then then we'll be the defense will
be so much better.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
No shit, Joe, So niggas they stop runing, got free, bro,
I'm light way shaking.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Bro'm listen all right, Look, Debo, I.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Know we got some you want me to get to.
You want me to give you some super chats. Do
some super chests, man, let me do some super chests
for you, all right? I got some super chat questions.
This is from Grayson Brown nine seven seven eight. He
donated said why are road AFC North teams two and
eighteen individual Indivisional Thursday Night Football zher and ten in
(51:32):
the last ten games?
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Who was your mouth asking the question? He don't want
to hear.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
What you're saying is oh and seven Thursday Night Football
feels rigged.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Well that wasn't a question. It was more of a state.
I think we're letting them rig it so we can lose.
Are you a goofball? No? B who asked that question?
Speaker 2 (51:51):
That's Grayson Brown. Brother, y'all about to make me lose
my religion. Okay, I'm gonna say something that ain't And
then we got another one to de boy.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah he going.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
Champ Champ jyll Champ. J y'all says no excuses. They
had a short week too. They had a short You're
right they did, but you're right, we played like trash
(52:24):
trashy trash trash the defense that stand man, I'm just
trying to grasp something to give me some hope.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
And every time I try to grasp something to give
me some hope, I know. Good damn well, it's an
excuse because just as he said, we all played on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
We all had a short week. All that Thursday nights away.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Games got out of Die Bullfragle Rock.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
We played like trash.
Speaker 5 (52:56):
We yep, that one slip man, that was slipped and
they did then. And the Bengals did do good that
that pick. But he had they played, they made plays.
They did make plays, all right. Another one for you, Debo,
Sully Griffin, great show today. Do you stick with Flacco
for the rest of the season, if for Cincinnati, or
(53:16):
save Burrow for next season.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
I'll go with Flacco until Burrow gets one healthy, and
then I'm throwing Burrow back in there that I need
Flacco to go in.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
We need to.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
We played them again, bru Still, don't let this man
do this to y'all again us because Joe ain't with us.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
I am definitely with you out brow.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Don't put on your elf costume with the with the
little feet, the browns elf.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Go get your where you're dog. You ain't even got
a dog. You don't even know where. I even said that,
but I don't know it don't matter. The whole stillness
teme in here too. You probably go get a dog
right now. Two three, I gotta see that, man. I'm rapping,
(54:10):
all right? Who else we got?
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
What you got? What else you got? Bro?
Speaker 5 (54:14):
I want to what my man say, we got Alexander Gallan.
No more stealers, they play ten defense.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
What's that? I don't know what that means. No more
stealers they play ten defense. I don't know. All right,
Next one, okay, he's saying, we play with ten men
on the field. You damn shows seemed like it. Damn
damn what are you saying? Go ahead, man?
Speaker 5 (54:44):
Next one, okay, Lynch Lisa donated twenty dollars. Love you too,
God bless you and family. Amen, God bless you tooyank you.
That's a sweetar right there. But I think my man
he must have said some stellers they play with He
(55:04):
still has play with ten on defense.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
That's crazy work, dude, I don't. Hey, I don't. I
don't know. No, it would have been worse than that,
if I guess if it was ten. But I don't. Listen,
we gotta get that.
Speaker 5 (55:24):
Yeah, it's it's like it's rn and passed the bow
because because the man Chase Brown was total and then
the receivers was catching it and everybody was kind of
open besides them.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
First, the worst team rushing the ball just bopped us.
They did, they did, they bopped us, they did. I'm pistol.
I'm pissed, almost ten of toe. What are we doing
(55:57):
getting toted on you? Oh? You think this ship funny? No,
it's not funny. It's it's not funny. It's so embarrassing. Man,
it's not funny. Game tonight, right, And I gotta sit
(56:20):
there and try and not. I'm a I'm about my son.
If and they listen, somebody gotta get it. Somebody gotta
get it. Somebody gotta get it tonight today.
Speaker 5 (56:37):
Oh he said somebody. He said, they meant. He meant
like tenfoil, tenfoil, That's what he said.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Okay, it's the same thing. We're older. What's the difference.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
I don't it's.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Hey, listen, I'm gonna try and calm down. I really
am so so this is what we're gonna do. Yes, Yo,
it's something running through my body like it's it comes
and goals. It's like just want to just rage.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Oh yeah, Hold look what we got de bo.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
We trash, bro We trash. Listen, Bro, y'all want me
to come back. I ain't got nothing left. I ain't
gonna lie to you, but I don't. I I can't
do no worse.
Speaker 5 (57:35):
I know you're gonna I know you're gonna throw your
body in there full speed.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
That's one thing you're gonna do. You're gonna hit somebody, don't.
I don't. I can't.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
I know one thing I can't help. I'm not trying
to yo, son. I'm talking to my son. He ain't
even watching this. But boy, if y'all let anybody get
ten total on.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
Y'all do it. They trash too. Bro. I know they
got Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
Okay, I understand that, I understand it, But that's one
person the offensive line couldn't block, couldn't do nothing, but
they came out there and dog walked us.
Speaker 1 (58:31):
BRO asked Joe Flack, I was throwing that thing on time.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
But that's what happened when twenty eight go against thirty
two because we down there with the trash too. We
gotta get out.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Of the dumpster. We got to bro too many yards,
too many yards.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Hey, guys, we want to thank you guys for joining
us here on this episode of DEEPO and Joe. Make
sure you guys hit the light button and subscribe. We'll
be back at this on Monday show. Yes, sir, make
sure you guys like a subscribe. Say, y'all saw an
upset Deebo today. You know he's a little upset, But
(59:14):
make sure you guys like a subscribe. Come back on
Monday and we could talk about what happening with the
rest of the teams that didn't do as good as
they thought they was gonna do.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
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