May 30, 2025 • 32 mins
Today, Devi celebrates the energy of the Gemini season and its significance for our personal growth, expression, and evolution. Gemini season invites us into duality — into the dance between our inner world and how we show up in the world around us. It’s a time to embrace curiosity, communication, and the beautiful unfolding of who we’re becoming.
Devi shares a few stories and reflections from the road during the Living in Wisdom book tour — the joy of meeting so many of you in real time, and the tender moments that remind her why healing in community matters so deeply. Devi also speaks to the need for equity in wellness spaces — how we must continue to make room for all stories, all bodies, and all experiences in the collective journey toward healing.
This episode is an invitation to set intentions as we step into summer — to nurture your creativity, protect your peace, and find ways to stay connected to your truth.
Ask yourself, how can I maximize my energetic potential right now? This is a call to honor where you are and to trust where you’re headed.
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Take a deep breath in through your nose. Holds it now,
release slowly again, deep in, helle hold release, repeating internally
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to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am
deeply well. I am deeply well. I am deeply wow.
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I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.
Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on
your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,
and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care.
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This is where we heal, this is where we transcend.
We welcome, welcome back to this show everyone. Of course,
am your host Stebbie Brown. Thank you so much for
being here and spending a little extra time on yourself
with me. It is always such a pleasure to do
this show. Oh my gosh. Well, first things first, shout
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out to all the Geminis in the planet. Our season
has come. It's time. We have been waiting patiently for
the last twelve months for this moment. Shout out to
all the summer babies. I am very excited because I
am someone, as you know if you listen to the
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show that finds so much beauty and depth and power
in astrology. I just deeply love it and enjoy it,
and I always have, even before I knew astrology was
bigger than just the back of a magazine page, you know,
while you're waiting in line in the grocery store. So
Gemini season always feels so special to me, and and
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I've talked about this on the show before any time.
Truly it's your birthday. Whenever you're born, there is this
like really beneficial energy in the air for all of us.
I like to call it portal energy. A lot of
people call it that, but your birthday is like truly
one of the most beautiful portals entry points, exit points,
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moments for deep review and stock taking of your life,
moment for really visualizing and calling in more. The veil
is a little more thin, and I always feel that
around your birthday you have more access to yourself. And
as someone that is a little more solar and lunar inclined,
I like to go with the movements that are happening.
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You know. We just came out of a Gemini New Moon,
which kicked off the season this week. It's currently the
end of May twenty twenty five, and it was really
interesting the Gemini New Moon. The themes that are in
the air this week are really rooted around coming into
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your advanced state, right Like it's really rooted in kind
of taking stock even of your physicality and how you
show up in the world. What's your style, what's the
way you move? What are the things that are uniquely you?
What are you know, just the unique qualities about yourself
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and all the various categories of our lives. And I
was thinking about that a lot this weekend as we're
kind of getting into more of the summertime of the year,
though depending on where you are weatherwise, you cannot tell,
because why is it raining all over the country. It
is insane. It has been so cold for this time
of year. But we're coming into sumwhere we're coming into
this really beautiful moment that has always felt like a
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deep kind of charge of vitality for me. Maybe it's
because we get the power of the sun more potently
on earth, but yeah, it's a time of play, of recharge,
of savoring, of being a little more experiential. We have
more daylight, there's more time to explore and be with
nature and be outdoors and the warmth, and so I
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love leaning into the season. So for anyone else that
is having their birthday around this time, or if it's
your six month mark, or even just leaning into the
upcoming summer solstice. You know, I'm really choosing to lean
into some of those themes of the Gemini New Moon,
which is how can I embody the deep transformations that
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have already taken place inside of me even more externally? Right?
You know, sometimes you need to see like a visible change.
To change, you gotta move, or you got to cut
your hair, or you got to paint something. Right, what
are some ways that you can really anchor or maybe
some of the deeper work you've been doing with yourself
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or the deeper observations, and what are some ways you
can bring to life a little bit more right now
that interior space externally the way that I don't quite
know how I'm going to do that yet, I don't
quite know what the most aligned way to do that is.
But I started kind of beginning to court that energy
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a little bit, to date the energy, to foreplay with
the energy. And it took some time to really do
a deep dive and a clean out of my closet,
things that no longer fit, things that I've been holding
on to that just year after year I have not
pulled for I did all the shoes that need to
get repaired, put those in a pile, all the clothes
that need to get tailored, dry cleaned, those in a pile,
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big old donation pile. And it was really cool. I
got done actually probably like ten pm last night, and
just kind of standing there. Was kind of cool to
spend time with who you are, with different things that
you wear or do. I'm somebody that collects a lot
of random things that I like. I'm not necessarily always
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going to be most likely never truthfully on any trend,
but I do find things that I uniquely love, and
then I usually keep them forever. So you will probably
see me in a picture wearing things that you've seen
me in a picture wear a hundred times in the
last ten years. But when I like stuff, I really
like to keep it and I'll just get it like
kind of repaired or updated over time. And so it
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was kind of cool looking through that lens, having so
many different articles of clothing from specific moments in time,
from time when I lived in Houston, from times you know,
I have concert tees still hanging in my closet that
I got, you know, back in seven oh eight or
even younger, like I have a Janet Jackson tea from
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like the nineties, And as I was going through my closet,
I was really trying not to do any of it fast.
I was like, all right, work with this kind of
cleanup and redefining energy, but moved slowly. So I lit
some incense next to my closet, I put on a playlist,
had a little tea, got a little elevated, and then
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started really thinking about some of the core memories that
were connected to some of these pieces of clothing and
ones I gave away. I kind of called back my
soul fragments from those experiences, made peace, and then put
it in the pile. Other stuff, you know, I'll put
away for a while, maybe rediscover in a couple of years.
Then some stuff left hanging. But it's really, you know,
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that invitation of the new moon to kind of look
at how you can integrate that inner work with the
outer work, and then being able to kind of see
the growth and the change, like when I wore this
last or when I wore this the first time, this
is how I felt in my life, This is how
I felt in my body. Who am I now and yeah,
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it was kind of special. So my invitation to everyone
listening to this episode because the energetic potential is there
to be maximized. You know, what are some ways that
you can really trust yourself and get creative with letting
some of those innerchanges in the ways that you feel
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about yourself, the ways you feel about your body, or
maybe the ways you feel about your world. How can
that come even more to life in your day to day?
Is it maybe playing around with a couple new hairstyles,
with even like a new moisturizer for your face, or
a new kind of routine. Is it kind of looking
a little more closely and saying like how do I
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accessorize or you know, what are the what are the
pieces of clothing that make me smile even if no
one else notices it? And how do I add more
to that to my day? You know? It really is
it really is that thing that sometimes can seem so
surface that it's just silly. But you do feel better
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when you look better. And I have found that if
you have been especially in it for a couple years
or for a length of time doing work on yourself,
you get sometimes so disconnected from the external that it
almost feels like a more unimportant part of yourself compared
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to some of the things that you're moving through or
the ways that you're really using your brain or your
brilliant or your heart, or the ways that you're grieving.
But part of those deeper layers of integration and healing
is really taking a moment to cleanse your own lens
of perception with how you see yourself. Right, Like something
I've been appreciating in this season of my life, which
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I can't even believe this, but I enter my next
decade in a couple of weeks and I feel so
great about all of it. But being able to see,
like the changes in myself just in this last year,
like letting some gray hair come in. I'm most likely
I may change my mind at some point, to be honest,
but I may not. But don't hold me to anything.
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I'm still feeling life out, but you know, just letting
I've let my grays grow in since maybe for about
eight months now, and seeing what that really looks like
and seeing, you know, some of the wrinkles come in
on my face, or the change and texture and my hair,
the change in how I'm able to move like that
kind of all comes in at once. The closer you
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get to forty, you'll be like, I feel like I'm
twenty five, and then all of a sudden, like you
literally wake up one morning and you're like, well, there's
gravity and there's like age, you know. But I'm so
excited to be a woman alive right now, to be
a person alive right now. I don't feel as bogged
down as you know, I've been assuming some of the
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elders in my life might have felt at this turning point.
You know, so much has changed, so much work to
still be done, but so much has been changed around
agism and feminism and beauty standards that just did not
exist even until the last five years, to be honest.
And so you know, something I'm trying to put a
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lot of intentional thought into is how do you do
that differently? Right? How do you make even aging be
something that can happen a little more on your authentic terms, right, Like,
It's not something I'm trying to avoid. I'd have no
control over it and it will just continue to snowball
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from here. So I want to love all of it.
I want to love every moment of it. So I've
been enjoying that a lot, and all of that was
kind of coming together through this living meditation of purging
my closet and purging you know, even some of my
my own self concept this week and finding ways to
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add even more creativity to the things that I like
to have on my body or sense and clothes and
all of that. So I hope this is an invitation
for you listening to just take some time and have
fun with that. You don't have to get it right.
Play stress up with yourself, you know, play in your hair,
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play with some products like those are the parts that
I think, especially as you move out of your twenties,
you don't have as much playtime in because you develop
whatever your routine with your products and your things or
your style is. But you know, every five years, so
much about as changes, every decade, so much about as changes.
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So how do we update that part of us too,
to be even more connected to who we know ourselves
to be? Yeah, yeah, something to think about, something a
journal to, something to have fun with. And also life
is busy, so if you need to do it like
one weekend at a time and just slowly dent through it,
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maybe spend the summer doing it till you get to
fall might be something special to do, so kind of
in that same vein of things, you know, aside from
I gave you your homework first today, your soul work
came first some episode, but I'll reintegrate it towards the end.
But I want to share a couple things. So, as
a lot of you know, I am on the road, baby,
I have been out there hitting the streets and it's
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so I mean, I travel quite a bit for work,
but this is like something else entirely, and I just
it has been a joy being with you in person,
Like words cannot describe how special it has been for
me to be with each one of you in person.
And I want to start this part of the show
by saying a huge thank you to my friend A
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Lindsia Johnson for joining me in Washington, d C. For
our amazing talk. Thank you to Mahogany Books, a legendary
iconic bookstore in DC, black owned bookstore that it was
just I had such a special time there and ate
so much amazing food. The conversations we were having were
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just so big, so big, so big, and I just
appreciate every single word that each person that comes has
shared like truly, madly, deeply, so many listeners from the
Dropping Gems podcast now deeply well, so many listeners from
radio radio from whether I was on air in La
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New York or Houston coming out and like, Wow, I
feel like I'm on like one of those shows where
they're like and welcome to your life. This is this moment. Now,
there's this moment like I feel like I'm walking through
like the milestones of my life in such like a
quick succession. And as an author that's really as an
author of a book that has kind of closed to
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loop on a lot of the really substantial moments in
my life and my own healing journey, it's just so
kismet and so divine to be having these moments on
the road, like it's all just feeding and layering into
one another. And I am incredibly grateful I had a
chance to go to Huston, h Town. I just got
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back from the age, and like, wow, I hadn't been
back to Houston in eight years. I had the pleasure
of living in Houston for I believe around five years,
maybe a little more. And I was on the radio
in Houston. I had a radio show and I did
some news with the CBS affiliate there, and it was
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my life for years. It was my community. I was
really blessed and grateful to receive nine years ago a
proclamation of my own day in Houston, which is May
twenty six, And it's just a place that is just
like insanely special to my heart. But it's also somewhere
that I have not been able to get back to
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for nearly a decade. So when I was getting ready
to go to Houston, I didn't quite know what to expect.
I knew I had some unfinished soul business there. There
were some conflicting feelings like Houston meant so much to me,
and while I lived there, I was so homesick. I
missed my family, I missed some of my friends, I
missed delay. So I was always having this very dualistic
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experience of like really achieving things that I wanted to
do and be while I was there, and having a
lot of love and support, and feeling a big sense
of loss, like there was a void, like there was
a part of me that I didn't have access to.
And so being with both those feelings that I know,
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you know, when I've spoken with other people who have
also been expts at various point in their adult life.
Either they moved around a lot for work, or they
moved for family, or they were in the Armed Services
and moved around quite a bit, or were traveling nurses.
It's like, you know, it's this strange experience of amassing
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life experience in these places but not being able to
take community when you go into new places. And so yeah,
this it's this very interesting space to be in of purpose,
meats discomfort, you know, and new meats old and yeah,
just a lot, a lot, a lot of duality. So
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I made it to Houston. The first things first that
I did was drop down and get to popaitos. I mean,
I could not drop my bag fast enough, like truly.
I stayed over by the galleria and I was like,
first things first, Papatos on West Timer. Let's go. That's
personally my favorite papatos. But that's the one that I
had a lot more memories that though I think the
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one on six' ten is probably the one that everybody
goes to more. So but went To west Tim Or,
papao's got my alligator, bites had The Mardi gras, pasta
had the shrimp and cheese crab. DIP i, mean come,
on there is no better food than the food In.
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Houston and then the next, DAY i was so so
grateful to be joined by my dear Friend bunbee and.
Conversation it is one of the most special CONVERSATIONS i
have ever, Had and this might be my favorite stop
so far in the book. Tour it was so so
many amazing friends and supporters in the city came, Out
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So i'll be sharing more about that On. Instagram BUT
i am just exceedingly exceedingly, grateful. Deeply, well, well there
are two questions that have come up in the last
few weeks THAT i kind of want to bring up
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on this podcast. Episode just there's no real solutions THAT i,
have but just as thought starters for each of us
as you're listening to this. Show but there is really some, big, big,
big big big shifts happening in the, world and they
are going to come like a. Snowball everything is going
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to hit so fast and we're going to, say how
did all that just? Happen you, know the technological part
of life is moving really. Quickly the changes that are
happening to our medical industry complexes happening. Quickly the things
that are changing and shifting within wellness and mindfulness are,
changing and we really need to think about all the
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ways that we are going to approach this from a
place of, integrity all the ways that we are going
to approach this from an evolutionary, place and all the
ways we can still try to find to help others
within these. Spaces so one of the questions that has come.
UP i was hosting a panel at the Milk in,
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conference WHICH i shared on the show, already AND i
remember one of the questions that was asked at the
end of the talk to all of the people on
the panel who were talking about the various things happening
and evolving within the wellness industry was and it was
an audience submitted, question but it was how do we
bring the poor? Along outside of the phrasing of the, question,
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Right i'm saying it how it was, asked BUT i
think it's really important to be thinking about this because
we there are so many big conversations about bioa, hacking about,
health about you, know living to over one hundred and
what you need to do to do, that and it's
like all of the ways that we're approaching it are incredibly,
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elitist incredibly, elitist and only open to a very very
various electview and select view in terms of one access
to money and two access to the time to be
able to do what a lot of these things require
to actually, feel to be you, know, distressed to be.
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Healthful and so it's a question THAT i have been
thinking about for. YEARS i try to keep it at
the forefront of my, thought but as now we're really
moving into just such, different like exceedingly different, lifestyles especially
with the technological advancements of the last three years and
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the ones to, come how can we make sure mental
health nervous system regulation really is. Equitable AND i may
be asking this question more so for the business owners
within this, industry for the, practitioners the, facilitators you, know
the others that are more regularly thinking about helping in.
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Healing what are the ways that even for those that
do this work as a, career that we always are
sure to have a high low, right not just in price,
points but how do you make sure that whatever it
is you're creating or whatever ways you're accessing things can
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also be trickled, back trickled, Down LIKE i don't have
all the SOLUTIONS i. KNOW i for myself always always
always try to give free work WHENEVER i can with
my extra. TIME i think that's. IMPORTANT i might do
like a high end, retreat and Then i'll also do
the exact same retreat taught exactly the same at a
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deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep fraction
of the. Price or IF i teach something somewhere else
Then i'm getting a certain, FEE i will also find
a way to volunteer and teach that same work in
a different capacity for. Free AND i try to do
that quite a bit throughout the. Year JUST i always.
Have IF i have something really good for me from
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a career, STANDPOINT i try to also make SURE i
have a free version of that THAT i give to
someone or the world in some. Way but when it
comes to, health when it comes to having the means
to connect with you, know the different technologies that can
really help, People i'm really thinking about that right. Now
so if anyone else is thinking about that, TOO i
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would love to hear about. It PLEASE dm me or
hit us. Up there should be a way to contact
within the show. NOTES i would just love to hear
how other people are thinking of this, too BECAUSE i
think we should be putting our heads, together putting our hearts,
together and finding the most and the best ways possible
to make sure that healing work has more quality to
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it moving forward in the. World, yeah a lot of
thoughts on, that thinking about. That so for those that
are in The Los angeles, AREA i want to share
with you something THAT i just put up on My instagram.
Today SO i kicked off this really beautiful partnership With.
Airbnb they've unrolled all of these experiences that they're doing
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around the, country around the, world really cool, stuff like
they have this huge thing for. It so you might
have seen it on Social BUT i have A airbnb
experience THAT i designed for them called The Malibu Meditation
experience and we actually got The Hannah Montana house for
those that are familiar with that In malibu on the,
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water AND i have four different sessions That i'm going
to be. Offering they're about two hours. Each you can
do one on one within a group sessions with me
at that Beautiful malibu oasis and we'll be doing breath work.
Together i'll be leading, meditation we'll be doing and an energetic,
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reset some, reflection by the, ocean and also a road
mapping exercise for being able to build a daily practice
once you get. Home So i've done a few of
these so, far really excited about doing, more and there
are a few seats left for. That so you would
just go to The lincoln bio THAT i have or
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show notes of this, episode and you can book Your
airbnb experience with. Me it's about two hours And i'm
looking forward to doing that with anyone that joins. Me
it's going to be a lot of, fun and it really.
Is i've done a couple at this house so, far
and it's just a really, special breathtaking, experience just really.
Regulating it is us and the sea and the sand
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and some really beautiful. Silence we've had some really really
special breakthrough experiences with people that have come on that
journey with. Me so you can connect with me there
and that's going to be. HAPPY i, mean On june
seventh And june, eighth so in just a couple of,
WEEKS i am headed To detroit. Next i'm so excited
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to be in conversation with my Friend Jessica, nabongo who
was a recent guest this season on the. Podcast she
is an amazing woman that has traveled to every single
country in the, world the first black woman to do,
so AND i mean her first of. All her Book
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Catch me if You, can it's just a must. Have
but it's just such an inspiring way to experience. Life
it's such an inspiring way to experience your own creativity
and resilience and. Mission you, know it's such a beautiful
purpose to. Have and So i'm going to be in
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conversation with her at this incredible, library this very Like
Art deco old library In. Detroit think there are a couple. Seats,
well it's. Tomorrow you're not going to hear this episode,
yet so you'll see the pictures on the. Ground But
i'm really excited to be on the next. Step so
if you haven't, yet highly recommend get in my Book
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living In. Wisdom it has been special seeing some of
the responses people have that have just finished, book that
have been giving me feedback on how they flowed through
some of the, stories how they flow through some of
the practices in the. Curriculum and it's really exciting to
see those who have jump started their practice through using this.
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Book that is my deepest. Intention if you haven't got
the book, already it could be a, very very amazing
way to lock in to your healing journey this. Summer
there are so many practices in this book in meditation
and breath, work working with the central, oils working with somatic,
processes working with your physicality with, stretching with, yoga so
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many journal, prompts. Affirmations working with all of these modalities
within the structure of the book could be a really
beautiful kind of scaffolding for your life and your purpose right.
Now you, know use this summer to get really aligned for.
Fall there is such an energy of, joy of magnetism
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present this. Season so think to, yourself how CAN i
maximize the energetic potential of my life right? Now how
CAN i maximize the energetic potential of my life this?
Summer let that be your. Question meditate with, that and
whether it's through my book and my, practices or it's
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through another, system or it's through your own kind of self.
Inquiry give yourself the next three months as we get
ready to move slowly Into, june to really lock into
a deeper piece of your, curriculum a deeper piece of your,
joy a deeper piece of your connection to your. Body
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what can that look like for you this? Summer dream
big and let the natural energy of, joy of, vitality
of solar energy that is just present on the planet
during the. Summer let that be your. Fuel let that
feed you. Right let these dog days of, summer these
beautifully dusky, nights in the long sunsets and the starry.
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Skies let the awe and the wonder and the beauty
and the heat of this summer fuel propel and heal
all those extra layers of the things you've wanted to
approach so. FAR i hope you'll dive into that soul.
Work thank you for. Listening as, always, please if you
have an opportunity and you've already gotten the, book please
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Take a deep breath in through your nose. Holds it now,
release slowly again, deep in, helle hold release, repeating internally
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to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am
deeply well. I am deeply well. I am deeply wow.
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I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.
Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on
your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,
and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care.
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This is where we heal, this is where we transcend.
We welcome, welcome back to this show everyone. Of course,
am your host Stebbie Brown. Thank you so much for
being here and spending a little extra time on yourself
with me. It is always such a pleasure to do
this show. Oh my gosh. Well, first things first, shout
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out to all the Geminis in the planet. Our season
has come. It's time. We have been waiting patiently for
the last twelve months for this moment. Shout out to
all the summer babies. I am very excited because I
am someone, as you know if you listen to the
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show that finds so much beauty and depth and power
in astrology. I just deeply love it and enjoy it,
and I always have, even before I knew astrology was
bigger than just the back of a magazine page, you know,
while you're waiting in line in the grocery store. So
Gemini season always feels so special to me, and and
(03:00):
I've talked about this on the show before any time.
Truly it's your birthday. Whenever you're born, there is this
like really beneficial energy in the air for all of us.
I like to call it portal energy. A lot of
people call it that, but your birthday is like truly
one of the most beautiful portals entry points, exit points,
(03:26):
moments for deep review and stock taking of your life,
moment for really visualizing and calling in more. The veil
is a little more thin, and I always feel that
around your birthday you have more access to yourself. And
as someone that is a little more solar and lunar inclined,
I like to go with the movements that are happening.
(03:49):
You know. We just came out of a Gemini New Moon,
which kicked off the season this week. It's currently the
end of May twenty twenty five, and it was really
interesting the Gemini New Moon. The themes that are in
the air this week are really rooted around coming into
(04:10):
your advanced state, right Like it's really rooted in kind
of taking stock even of your physicality and how you
show up in the world. What's your style, what's the
way you move? What are the things that are uniquely you?
What are you know, just the unique qualities about yourself
(04:31):
and all the various categories of our lives. And I
was thinking about that a lot this weekend as we're
kind of getting into more of the summertime of the year,
though depending on where you are weatherwise, you cannot tell,
because why is it raining all over the country. It
is insane. It has been so cold for this time
of year. But we're coming into sumwhere we're coming into
this really beautiful moment that has always felt like a
(04:56):
deep kind of charge of vitality for me. Maybe it's
because we get the power of the sun more potently
on earth, but yeah, it's a time of play, of recharge,
of savoring, of being a little more experiential. We have
more daylight, there's more time to explore and be with
nature and be outdoors and the warmth, and so I
(05:19):
love leaning into the season. So for anyone else that
is having their birthday around this time, or if it's
your six month mark, or even just leaning into the
upcoming summer solstice. You know, I'm really choosing to lean
into some of those themes of the Gemini New Moon,
which is how can I embody the deep transformations that
(05:41):
have already taken place inside of me even more externally? Right?
You know, sometimes you need to see like a visible change.
To change, you gotta move, or you got to cut
your hair, or you got to paint something. Right, what
are some ways that you can really anchor or maybe
some of the deeper work you've been doing with yourself
(06:04):
or the deeper observations, and what are some ways you
can bring to life a little bit more right now
that interior space externally the way that I don't quite
know how I'm going to do that yet, I don't
quite know what the most aligned way to do that is.
But I started kind of beginning to court that energy
(06:25):
a little bit, to date the energy, to foreplay with
the energy. And it took some time to really do
a deep dive and a clean out of my closet,
things that no longer fit, things that I've been holding
on to that just year after year I have not
pulled for I did all the shoes that need to
get repaired, put those in a pile, all the clothes
that need to get tailored, dry cleaned, those in a pile,
(06:48):
big old donation pile. And it was really cool. I
got done actually probably like ten pm last night, and
just kind of standing there. Was kind of cool to
spend time with who you are, with different things that
you wear or do. I'm somebody that collects a lot
of random things that I like. I'm not necessarily always
(07:10):
going to be most likely never truthfully on any trend,
but I do find things that I uniquely love, and
then I usually keep them forever. So you will probably
see me in a picture wearing things that you've seen
me in a picture wear a hundred times in the
last ten years. But when I like stuff, I really
like to keep it and I'll just get it like
kind of repaired or updated over time. And so it
(07:34):
was kind of cool looking through that lens, having so
many different articles of clothing from specific moments in time,
from time when I lived in Houston, from times you know,
I have concert tees still hanging in my closet that
I got, you know, back in seven oh eight or
even younger, like I have a Janet Jackson tea from
(07:55):
like the nineties, And as I was going through my closet,
I was really trying not to do any of it fast.
I was like, all right, work with this kind of
cleanup and redefining energy, but moved slowly. So I lit
some incense next to my closet, I put on a playlist,
had a little tea, got a little elevated, and then
(08:17):
started really thinking about some of the core memories that
were connected to some of these pieces of clothing and
ones I gave away. I kind of called back my
soul fragments from those experiences, made peace, and then put
it in the pile. Other stuff, you know, I'll put
away for a while, maybe rediscover in a couple of years.
Then some stuff left hanging. But it's really, you know,
(08:42):
that invitation of the new moon to kind of look
at how you can integrate that inner work with the
outer work, and then being able to kind of see
the growth and the change, like when I wore this
last or when I wore this the first time, this
is how I felt in my life, This is how
I felt in my body. Who am I now and yeah,
(09:05):
it was kind of special. So my invitation to everyone
listening to this episode because the energetic potential is there
to be maximized. You know, what are some ways that
you can really trust yourself and get creative with letting
some of those innerchanges in the ways that you feel
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about yourself, the ways you feel about your body, or
maybe the ways you feel about your world. How can
that come even more to life in your day to day?
Is it maybe playing around with a couple new hairstyles,
with even like a new moisturizer for your face, or
a new kind of routine. Is it kind of looking
a little more closely and saying like how do I
(09:49):
accessorize or you know, what are the what are the
pieces of clothing that make me smile even if no
one else notices it? And how do I add more
to that to my day? You know? It really is
it really is that thing that sometimes can seem so
surface that it's just silly. But you do feel better
(10:10):
when you look better. And I have found that if
you have been especially in it for a couple years
or for a length of time doing work on yourself,
you get sometimes so disconnected from the external that it
almost feels like a more unimportant part of yourself compared
(10:30):
to some of the things that you're moving through or
the ways that you're really using your brain or your
brilliant or your heart, or the ways that you're grieving.
But part of those deeper layers of integration and healing
is really taking a moment to cleanse your own lens
of perception with how you see yourself. Right, Like something
I've been appreciating in this season of my life, which
(10:53):
I can't even believe this, but I enter my next
decade in a couple of weeks and I feel so
great about all of it. But being able to see,
like the changes in myself just in this last year,
like letting some gray hair come in. I'm most likely
I may change my mind at some point, to be honest,
but I may not. But don't hold me to anything.
(11:15):
I'm still feeling life out, but you know, just letting
I've let my grays grow in since maybe for about
eight months now, and seeing what that really looks like
and seeing, you know, some of the wrinkles come in
on my face, or the change and texture and my hair,
the change in how I'm able to move like that
kind of all comes in at once. The closer you
(11:36):
get to forty, you'll be like, I feel like I'm
twenty five, and then all of a sudden, like you
literally wake up one morning and you're like, well, there's
gravity and there's like age, you know. But I'm so
excited to be a woman alive right now, to be
a person alive right now. I don't feel as bogged
down as you know, I've been assuming some of the
(11:58):
elders in my life might have felt at this turning point.
You know, so much has changed, so much work to
still be done, but so much has been changed around
agism and feminism and beauty standards that just did not
exist even until the last five years, to be honest.
And so you know, something I'm trying to put a
(12:21):
lot of intentional thought into is how do you do
that differently? Right? How do you make even aging be
something that can happen a little more on your authentic terms, right, Like,
It's not something I'm trying to avoid. I'd have no
control over it and it will just continue to snowball
(12:41):
from here. So I want to love all of it.
I want to love every moment of it. So I've
been enjoying that a lot, and all of that was
kind of coming together through this living meditation of purging
my closet and purging you know, even some of my
my own self concept this week and finding ways to
(13:04):
add even more creativity to the things that I like
to have on my body or sense and clothes and
all of that. So I hope this is an invitation
for you listening to just take some time and have
fun with that. You don't have to get it right.
Play stress up with yourself, you know, play in your hair,
(13:24):
play with some products like those are the parts that
I think, especially as you move out of your twenties,
you don't have as much playtime in because you develop
whatever your routine with your products and your things or
your style is. But you know, every five years, so
much about as changes, every decade, so much about as changes.
(13:45):
So how do we update that part of us too,
to be even more connected to who we know ourselves
to be? Yeah, yeah, something to think about, something a
journal to, something to have fun with. And also life
is busy, so if you need to do it like
one weekend at a time and just slowly dent through it,
(14:05):
maybe spend the summer doing it till you get to
fall might be something special to do, so kind of
in that same vein of things, you know, aside from
I gave you your homework first today, your soul work
came first some episode, but I'll reintegrate it towards the end.
But I want to share a couple things. So, as
a lot of you know, I am on the road, baby,
I have been out there hitting the streets and it's
(14:30):
so I mean, I travel quite a bit for work,
but this is like something else entirely, and I just
it has been a joy being with you in person,
Like words cannot describe how special it has been for
me to be with each one of you in person.
And I want to start this part of the show
by saying a huge thank you to my friend A
(14:52):
Lindsia Johnson for joining me in Washington, d C. For
our amazing talk. Thank you to Mahogany Books, a legendary
iconic bookstore in DC, black owned bookstore that it was
just I had such a special time there and ate
so much amazing food. The conversations we were having were
(15:14):
just so big, so big, so big, and I just
appreciate every single word that each person that comes has
shared like truly, madly, deeply, so many listeners from the
Dropping Gems podcast now deeply well, so many listeners from
radio radio from whether I was on air in La
(15:37):
New York or Houston coming out and like, Wow, I
feel like I'm on like one of those shows where
they're like and welcome to your life. This is this moment. Now,
there's this moment like I feel like I'm walking through
like the milestones of my life in such like a
quick succession. And as an author that's really as an
author of a book that has kind of closed to
(16:00):
loop on a lot of the really substantial moments in
my life and my own healing journey, it's just so
kismet and so divine to be having these moments on
the road, like it's all just feeding and layering into
one another. And I am incredibly grateful I had a
chance to go to Huston, h Town. I just got
(16:28):
back from the age, and like, wow, I hadn't been
back to Houston in eight years. I had the pleasure
of living in Houston for I believe around five years,
maybe a little more. And I was on the radio
in Houston. I had a radio show and I did
some news with the CBS affiliate there, and it was
(16:50):
my life for years. It was my community. I was
really blessed and grateful to receive nine years ago a
proclamation of my own day in Houston, which is May
twenty six, And it's just a place that is just
like insanely special to my heart. But it's also somewhere
that I have not been able to get back to
(17:11):
for nearly a decade. So when I was getting ready
to go to Houston, I didn't quite know what to expect.
I knew I had some unfinished soul business there. There
were some conflicting feelings like Houston meant so much to me,
and while I lived there, I was so homesick. I
missed my family, I missed some of my friends, I
missed delay. So I was always having this very dualistic
(17:34):
experience of like really achieving things that I wanted to
do and be while I was there, and having a
lot of love and support, and feeling a big sense
of loss, like there was a void, like there was
a part of me that I didn't have access to.
And so being with both those feelings that I know,
(17:55):
you know, when I've spoken with other people who have
also been expts at various point in their adult life.
Either they moved around a lot for work, or they
moved for family, or they were in the Armed Services
and moved around quite a bit, or were traveling nurses.
It's like, you know, it's this strange experience of amassing
(18:16):
life experience in these places but not being able to
take community when you go into new places. And so yeah,
this it's this very interesting space to be in of purpose,
meats discomfort, you know, and new meats old and yeah,
just a lot, a lot, a lot of duality. So
(18:37):
I made it to Houston. The first things first that
I did was drop down and get to popaitos. I mean,
I could not drop my bag fast enough, like truly.
I stayed over by the galleria and I was like,
first things first, Papatos on West Timer. Let's go. That's
personally my favorite papatos. But that's the one that I
had a lot more memories that though I think the
(18:58):
one on six' ten is probably the one that everybody
goes to more. So but went To west Tim Or,
papao's got my alligator, bites had The Mardi gras, pasta
had the shrimp and cheese crab. DIP i, mean come,
on there is no better food than the food In.
(19:19):
Houston and then the next, DAY i was so so
grateful to be joined by my dear Friend bunbee and.
Conversation it is one of the most special CONVERSATIONS i
have ever, Had and this might be my favorite stop
so far in the book. Tour it was so so
many amazing friends and supporters in the city came, Out
(19:41):
So i'll be sharing more about that On. Instagram BUT
i am just exceedingly exceedingly, grateful. Deeply, well, well there
are two questions that have come up in the last
few weeks THAT i kind of want to bring up
(20:02):
on this podcast. Episode just there's no real solutions THAT i,
have but just as thought starters for each of us
as you're listening to this. Show but there is really some, big, big,
big big big shifts happening in the, world and they
are going to come like a. Snowball everything is going
(20:22):
to hit so fast and we're going to, say how
did all that just? Happen you, know the technological part
of life is moving really. Quickly the changes that are
happening to our medical industry complexes happening. Quickly the things
that are changing and shifting within wellness and mindfulness are,
changing and we really need to think about all the
(20:46):
ways that we are going to approach this from a
place of, integrity all the ways that we are going
to approach this from an evolutionary, place and all the
ways we can still try to find to help others
within these. Spaces so one of the questions that has come.
UP i was hosting a panel at the Milk in,
(21:08):
conference WHICH i shared on the show, already AND i
remember one of the questions that was asked at the
end of the talk to all of the people on
the panel who were talking about the various things happening
and evolving within the wellness industry was and it was
an audience submitted, question but it was how do we
bring the poor? Along outside of the phrasing of the, question,
(21:31):
Right i'm saying it how it was, asked BUT i
think it's really important to be thinking about this because
we there are so many big conversations about bioa, hacking about,
health about you, know living to over one hundred and
what you need to do to do, that and it's
like all of the ways that we're approaching it are incredibly,
(21:53):
elitist incredibly, elitist and only open to a very very
various electview and select view in terms of one access
to money and two access to the time to be
able to do what a lot of these things require
to actually, feel to be you, know, distressed to be.
(22:16):
Healthful and so it's a question THAT i have been
thinking about for. YEARS i try to keep it at
the forefront of my, thought but as now we're really
moving into just such, different like exceedingly different, lifestyles especially
with the technological advancements of the last three years and
(22:36):
the ones to, come how can we make sure mental
health nervous system regulation really is. Equitable AND i may
be asking this question more so for the business owners
within this, industry for the, practitioners the, facilitators you, know
the others that are more regularly thinking about helping in.
(23:02):
Healing what are the ways that even for those that
do this work as a, career that we always are
sure to have a high low, right not just in price,
points but how do you make sure that whatever it
is you're creating or whatever ways you're accessing things can
(23:25):
also be trickled, back trickled, Down LIKE i don't have
all the SOLUTIONS i. KNOW i for myself always always
always try to give free work WHENEVER i can with
my extra. TIME i think that's. IMPORTANT i might do
like a high end, retreat and Then i'll also do
the exact same retreat taught exactly the same at a
(23:47):
deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep fraction
of the. Price or IF i teach something somewhere else
Then i'm getting a certain, FEE i will also find
a way to volunteer and teach that same work in
a different capacity for. Free AND i try to do
that quite a bit throughout the. Year JUST i always.
Have IF i have something really good for me from
(24:10):
a career, STANDPOINT i try to also make SURE i
have a free version of that THAT i give to
someone or the world in some. Way but when it
comes to, health when it comes to having the means
to connect with you, know the different technologies that can
really help, People i'm really thinking about that right. Now
so if anyone else is thinking about that, TOO i
(24:31):
would love to hear about. It PLEASE dm me or
hit us. Up there should be a way to contact
within the show. NOTES i would just love to hear
how other people are thinking of this, too BECAUSE i
think we should be putting our heads, together putting our hearts,
together and finding the most and the best ways possible
to make sure that healing work has more quality to
(24:54):
it moving forward in the. World, yeah a lot of
thoughts on, that thinking about. That so for those that
are in The Los angeles, AREA i want to share
with you something THAT i just put up on My instagram.
Today SO i kicked off this really beautiful partnership With.
Airbnb they've unrolled all of these experiences that they're doing
(25:17):
around the, country around the, world really cool, stuff like
they have this huge thing for. It so you might
have seen it on Social BUT i have A airbnb
experience THAT i designed for them called The Malibu Meditation
experience and we actually got The Hannah Montana house for
those that are familiar with that In malibu on the,
(25:39):
water AND i have four different sessions That i'm going
to be. Offering they're about two hours. Each you can
do one on one within a group sessions with me
at that Beautiful malibu oasis and we'll be doing breath work.
Together i'll be leading, meditation we'll be doing and an energetic,
(26:00):
reset some, reflection by the, ocean and also a road
mapping exercise for being able to build a daily practice
once you get. Home So i've done a few of
these so, far really excited about doing, more and there
are a few seats left for. That so you would
just go to The lincoln bio THAT i have or
(26:21):
show notes of this, episode and you can book Your
airbnb experience with. Me it's about two hours And i'm
looking forward to doing that with anyone that joins. Me
it's going to be a lot of, fun and it really.
Is i've done a couple at this house so, far
and it's just a really, special breathtaking, experience just really.
Regulating it is us and the sea and the sand
(26:45):
and some really beautiful. Silence we've had some really really
special breakthrough experiences with people that have come on that
journey with. Me so you can connect with me there
and that's going to be. HAPPY i, mean On june
seventh And june, eighth so in just a couple of,
WEEKS i am headed To detroit. Next i'm so excited
(27:08):
to be in conversation with my Friend Jessica, nabongo who
was a recent guest this season on the. Podcast she
is an amazing woman that has traveled to every single
country in the, world the first black woman to do,
so AND i mean her first of. All her Book
(27:28):
Catch me if You, can it's just a must. Have
but it's just such an inspiring way to experience. Life
it's such an inspiring way to experience your own creativity
and resilience and. Mission you, know it's such a beautiful
purpose to. Have and So i'm going to be in
(27:49):
conversation with her at this incredible, library this very Like
Art deco old library In. Detroit think there are a couple. Seats,
well it's. Tomorrow you're not going to hear this episode,
yet so you'll see the pictures on the. Ground But
i'm really excited to be on the next. Step so
if you haven't, yet highly recommend get in my Book
(28:12):
living In. Wisdom it has been special seeing some of
the responses people have that have just finished, book that
have been giving me feedback on how they flowed through
some of the, stories how they flow through some of
the practices in the. Curriculum and it's really exciting to
see those who have jump started their practice through using this.
(28:33):
Book that is my deepest. Intention if you haven't got
the book, already it could be a, very very amazing
way to lock in to your healing journey this. Summer
there are so many practices in this book in meditation
and breath, work working with the central, oils working with somatic,
processes working with your physicality with, stretching with, yoga so
(28:58):
many journal, prompts. Affirmations working with all of these modalities
within the structure of the book could be a really
beautiful kind of scaffolding for your life and your purpose right.
Now you, know use this summer to get really aligned for.
Fall there is such an energy of, joy of magnetism
(29:21):
present this. Season so think to, yourself how CAN i
maximize the energetic potential of my life right? Now how
CAN i maximize the energetic potential of my life this?
Summer let that be your. Question meditate with, that and
whether it's through my book and my, practices or it's
(29:44):
through another, system or it's through your own kind of self.
Inquiry give yourself the next three months as we get
ready to move slowly Into, june to really lock into
a deeper piece of your, curriculum a deeper piece of your,
joy a deeper piece of your connection to your. Body
(30:10):
what can that look like for you this? Summer dream
big and let the natural energy of, joy of, vitality
of solar energy that is just present on the planet
during the. Summer let that be your. Fuel let that
feed you. Right let these dog days of, summer these
beautifully dusky, nights in the long sunsets and the starry.
(30:35):
Skies let the awe and the wonder and the beauty
and the heat of this summer fuel propel and heal
all those extra layers of the things you've wanted to
approach so. FAR i hope you'll dive into that soul.
Work thank you for. Listening as, always, please if you
have an opportunity and you've already gotten the, book please
(30:57):
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