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September 11, 2025 43 mins

Today we delve further into the concept of integrity, exploring its significance in personal growth, relationships, and community. Devi shares personal anecdotes and insights on how integrity serves as a foundation for a fulfilling life, encouraging listeners to take a moment to journal and reflect on their own practices and relationships, both romantic and in friendship. With the elections approaching here in the states, it’s also imperative that we examine our potential leaders and how they exemplify integrity before committing our vote to any candidate.

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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Take a deep breath in through your nose. Hold it now,
release slowly again, deep in, helle hold release, repeating internally

(01:03):
to yourself as you connect to my voice. I am deeply,
deeply well. I am deeply well. I am deeply well.

(01:30):
I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.
Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land in

(01:50):
your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,
and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care.
I'm your host, wi Brown. This is where we heal,
this is where we transcend. If you're watching this show
on YouTube, then I'm just kind of settling into place

(02:11):
right now. Hello, And if you're listening, I am lighting
a little bit of sage, filling the room, clearing the energy.
I'm in my workshop doing this show. I'm doing my
show in here every episode this season, which feels really good.
I already felt like some of the shift taking place
the last couple of episodes we have done for this

(02:34):
new season. All right, welcome to another episode of Deeply Well. Today,
we are diving deep into this subject of integrity. Really
excited that one of the things I shared last episode
is that as we explore this season, I've really found
that so many of the people connecting to this show

(02:54):
that have shared with me their thoughts and feelings are
connecting deeply to the soul work and some of the
self processing that we're able to do when we look
at sometimes a core component of our being through a
few different lenses in a few different ways. When we
cleanse the lens of perception, so much opens up. So

(03:14):
you know, when I think about integrity, I teach to
integrity a lot in my work, and I believe that
it's the foundation of how we move through life, and
ultimately it's the foundation of everything we tend to create
an experience in our lives. And I want to say
that with a tremendous amount of compassion for the fact

(03:37):
that sometimes having like high integrity actually feels like a luxury.
A story that I share in my upcoming book Living
Wisdom is I remember I was I was creating a
lot of like integrity content last year, and I remember
a lot of people were really connecting with it. It

(04:00):
felt good to stay and to share. And then someone
sent me this comment and they're really upset, And I'm
not gonna cuss right now, because it's a lot. It's
kind of early in the morning for me, but I'm
trying to convey it. But basically, you know, the person
that saw this particular post said, shut the f up,

(04:26):
I don't have time to think about integrity. Don't nobody
have time to think about integrity when you're struggling. And
when I read that comment, like, I just really got it,
like I really felt what he was saying, and it's like,
take away, you know, any I'm not offended by that,
Like take away any perceived rudeness. Like he used a
lot of colorful language, it was a lot, but I

(04:50):
really got that right. Because it's like, unless we are
able to zoom out enough, which very often takes time
or just a lot of foundational crafting, being alive is hard,
Being on earth is hard, and a lot of things
happen to us, and for some people a lot more

(05:10):
than most, and so it takes a while to zoom
out to be able to hold that so many things
can be true at once, and one of those things
is that on a spiritual level, depending on your belief,
but based on my belief, we are incarnating in this
lifetime and we have a variety of experiences that we're

(05:33):
going to move through and our experiences are rooted in
our soul curriculum, our agreements with God, our karma in
this lifetime and other lifetimes. And you know, it just
it gets even more you know, incomprehensible, the more zoomed
out you get. But that is a huge part of

(05:54):
my foundation of belief. And so I think that's one
of the reasons I hold integrity as a behavior, as
an action, as a way of living in the way
that I do, and I kind of study it and
think of it in that way and observe it in
others because that's what upholds everything else, and that's what
shifts karma. And it isn't always the best feeling to

(06:18):
have to be this quote unquote bigger person or the
one that does things you know more so, as an example,
doesn't always feel great. It can feel confusing. But if
you are living with the desire to transcend your current experiences,

(06:41):
to open up a more miraculous nature in your life,
and to just really transcend some of the hardship you
and the people in your family may have faced and
some of the experiences, it's just paramount. It's the only
way to do it. It's the cure, you know, and

(07:02):
you're not right or wrong depending on how much you
choose to connect to that. Ultimately it's between you and God.
But that is kind of the way I look at it.
And we're all going to drop the ball always. We're human.
We are silly and ridiculous and very bizarre, and we
have constant amnesia. We are constantly forgetting everything that we

(07:23):
learn and then having to relearn it. And so you know,
and myself included, it's like there is no perfection. Christ's
example was the only one of perfection, and Christ was
made perfect in mastery as the living example of all
of the values that allow one to transcend and be

(07:45):
as close as possible to God. But all right, so integrity.
That is why I want to stay my team into
this because I think once you figure out how to
really use integrity and better choice make as a cure
for some of the hardship and challenges you experience in life,

(08:06):
life gets really pleasurable, fun interesting. You feel like you're
in participation with it and it's not just happening to you.
You feel like there is a co creation happening with
you and God. And part of being able to really

(08:27):
dive into that ability to alchemize and transform and transcend
one's life or you know, manifest or whatever ways. You know,
we want to really call in those laws of attraction,
that ability to really magnetize things, being able to figure

(08:49):
out where your levees are and what your cures are
for things, and being able to find a lot of
strength and dignity in walking an authentic path. I think
that's what we are really taking it to the studs.
You know, it's the most authentic path possible. So in

(09:13):
this episode, kind of our part two episode of Integrity,
I want to dive into so many of the areas
that it shows up last episode. If you haven't listened yet,
take a second. Also, don't forget we have our workbook
for Integrity this month, our Soul work book. So if
you're signed up to the newsletter or you go on
the website Debbie Brown dot com to do both, you

(09:36):
can download a pdf and every month we're going to
share soul work in this way, you can download it
pretty easily to your computer to print it in all
the things, and you can use it as your journal work.
So I hope you find it useful. Do that get
Comfy Let's dive. In last episode, we really tracked into

(09:58):
what are some of the leading definition of how that
word is meant to be understood and applied foundationally. When
we are changing things in our lives and making new choices,
it's really important to look at how do we relate
to our emotional world and to the words that we
use sometimes, and then what is the actual truth of

(10:20):
those words or what are the ways that other people
are using them and relating to them. I'm always going
to kind of root it in what's our working foundational
definition for the work that we're doing together. So let's
talk about integrity in a few facets, and if you
have your journal with you for this episode, consider jotting

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just a couple quick thoughts down. But none of this
work is meant to be done in the thirty to
ninety minutes that you're going to be in an episode
with me. None of it's meant to be done in
just the week. And so I don't believe in tips
and tricks. I don't believe in hacks. It's process, it's devotion,
it's joyful discipline, and it's creating new pathways for yourself

(11:02):
and all that just takes patient, beautiful time, and each
of us can do it, and the slowing down is
usually the hardest part. So just know that everything that
we're exploring now, you don't have to get to the
end of it by the end of this episode. I
really invite you to listen back, to write things down,
to just explore wherever your beautiful mind and heart take you,

(11:24):
because you know the way. So today we're going to
dive into and the way that it shows up integrity
in relationships and friendships and even in the context of
what is happening around us in the world. Because as
above so below, when we have big themes that are
happening in life, like right now what seems to be
very much integrity versus not an integrity, we can almost

(11:49):
assuredly find certain patterns and themes are showing up in
our personal life too, right around the same time, because
it just helps you get the work done faster, get
to maximize the energetic potential of the moment. You know,
kill two birds with one stone sounds awful, but you
know that's saying due to things at once if you

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can and get the best benefit out of it. So
we have it coming at us in a lot of
different ways. So one of the first ways that I
want to bring integrity forward right now and just start
kind of like expanding your heart and mind to see
where this could fit in. If you're not driving, I
recommend take a few deep breaths right now. If that
feels comfortable, we can do that together, doing it slowly

(12:41):
and through the nose, slow and full out through an
open mouth. Let all the air and breath really release
from your body as we do that last one in
and out. I find it really nice to do that

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throughout my day in a few different ways. Even just
before starting a new thought or new story with someone,
just taking a few deep breaths can really open up
for us and clear the way to have thoughts that
are more useful to what's in front of us. So
one of the first pathways that I want to take
us in this episode to think about how integrity is

(13:35):
showing up in our lives. And again, as we dive
into some of this work, lean a little bit less
into the self judgment. I really would ask that you
try to release it entirely, at least from this moment.
You know, we have a lot of time that we
spend in our heads being hard on ourselves. Maybe this
time together is one of the places we don't have

(13:56):
to do that. This is a safe zone, this is
a no fly zone. Just try to take that peace
out of it, but observe and bring up for a
review how you relate to the theme of spiritual integrity
given our baseline definition of the word, and where it

(14:17):
really lands for you, and how you experience spirit in
your life, religion in your life, religious practice, ritual in
your life, or your connection to the creator, the Divine God,
the universe, and so in the world of spiritual work,

(14:41):
integrity is really all about alignment, all about alignment, alignment
with your truth, with your purpose, and with the principles
that are guiding to you. So one of the ways
that I think we have started, which I really love
because it's so powerful looking at your life through the

(15:03):
lens of your value system. Right, I think looking at
your life through the lens of your integrity system and
all of these facets can be a deepening of any
value system work you may have already done. Because our
values are kind of those bigger, loftier things that we're
resting our life on, and we don't always truly know

(15:25):
the fullness of what our values are and what they
represent until we do some of the deeper crevice work
within ourselves. So this deeper kind of layer of integrity,
I think can really get you even more deeply clear
on how purpose moves in your life and what your
value system is for your family, for your work, for
all the things. So in the spiritual work, integrity again

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it's really really about alignment. It is about where you
are with your truth, with your personal belief, with the
way that you connect to your inner world and inner experiences.
And this may be one of the most private ways
that we experience integrity because when we experience integrity in

(16:09):
the public facing world, whether people are right or wrong,
there's a projection. Right when we're experiencing integrity and friendship,
which we're going to get too soon, there's projection when
we experience our integrity and relationships. There's always a certain
level of feedback that's available to us. It always kind
of relies on a give and receive and a participatory experience.

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But when we talk about spiritual integrity, it's one of
the things that we're really our only source for feedback
and the things that seem to be happening around us
are how God provides the direct feedback for us on
how much of alignment we may be in in any
particular season or lifetime. And so when we're thinking about

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spiritual integrity, it really asks are you you showing up
authentically in your practice in your inner world? Is who
you're saying you are outside matching the internal way that
you experience yourself and experience God. Spiritual integrity is especially
important to think about if you're listening to this and

(17:18):
you may hold any what's being called right now religious trauma,
or if you've had experience where God or your belief
system has been weaponized against you, either in your greater
community or within your family, or if maybe you've just
had certain things indoctrinated into you that you've come to
now understand don't really align with the way that you

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experience God and your life and your values and the
things that you believe. And so in spiritual integrity can
really it's one of the most potent ways to start
exploring yourself because it can really open things up from
the inside out, and it's also going to become kind

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of the unshakable foundation that everything else we discuss in
this series gets stacked upon. So this is the private work.
This is the deepest of the Krevis work, and this
is the work that is most intimately connected to how
you know yourself and how you behave as a person,
as a spirit, as a child of God. And so,

(18:26):
you know, another thing that spiritual integrity asks is are
you living what you teach? Whether you're a healer, a guide,
or simply someone that is on a spiritual path with others.
This integrity is essential to the work. It's about ensuring
that the work we do for ourselves mirrors the work
that we're doing for others. It also means some of

(18:47):
that self care for self, you got to pour into
your self and your connection with God relentlessly, consistently, continuously.
Example of spiritual integrity is really seeing committed to your
daily practices, especially when no one is watching. Are you praying?
Are you talking to God? Are you building relationship with

(19:10):
your life? You know, sometimes I talk to God all
day every day. But another thing that you're talking to
is I talk to my house a lot. I really
experienced my house, and I know I shared this on
the show before, but my nickname for my house is
the Sacred medicine house. I experience like my home as
some of God's divine protection in my life, and it's

(19:33):
the nourishment of my family. So you know, as I
say like, thank you God for my life, thank you
God for my life, I'm always like, thank you Home
for your love, thank you Home for caring for us,
thank you Home for protecting us, for filling our life
with beauty. But it's really been in this kind of active, open,
blooming becoming relationship with the things that are most deeply

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connected to the intimacies of who and what you are
as a person deeply well. So the next pillar within integrity,
another lens to experience it within is integrity and friendship.

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We've been talking about this a lot, which is so exciting.
I shared this last episode. I love hearing how curious
people are about how to have better friendships. I think
it's something our society has really needed to understand for
a lot a long time. And as someone that like
loves being a good friend, I remember, like a few

(20:42):
years ago, I had a prayer where I was just like, God,
please help me be a better give me opportunities to
better serve my friends, And that actually opened up divine
opportunity to see some friends leave my life and some
new friends come into my life. But it always deepened
how far I could go with someone. And so, you know,

(21:03):
I think a lot of people are looking for more
than just a photo op these days the last fifteen years,
in large part due to the pervasiveness of the social
media lens that we view ourselves and our worth and
our life through. You know, a lot of people just
thought those open mouth photo ops of like performative joy

(21:25):
was friendship or just sometimes leaving the comment which is
so great and beautiful, like, don't take away from that
believing the comment or alike on a person's post like
that that equated intimacy or depth or an ability to
really count on someone. And I think it's really beautiful
that a lot of people are craving and longing and
looking for more. They may have realized that, hey, I

(21:48):
can go deeper than that, and I'm ready to. And
so as we look at that, it's important to get
foundational about friendship. I think sometimes we disregard as a
society friendship in just a really disrespectful and bizarre way.
You know, Like a lot of people I'll see sometimes

(22:09):
will have so much more grace for a romantic connection
they just met and don't really know than they will
for like a lifelong friend. And it's strange, you know,
It's like those seem to be the area sometimes where
people can really play out some of their trauma and

(22:31):
play out some of their family systems and get into
those authoritative dynamics or passive aggressive dynamics or sometimes cruel dynamics.
And so as you look to broaden your friendship life
as if that's where you are in this moment in time,
really let integrity be one of the measuring sticks you
use to notice if it's mutually beneficial or not. So

(22:56):
integrity and friendship means really showing up, honestly, being there
when you say you will, communicating openly and openly, especially
when things are good and when things feel off. I've
noticed sometimes in friendships, when I'm leading groups or workshops
where we're kind of diving into this concept, a lot

(23:17):
of friends won't even share their happiness or joy about
friendship with the friend they're spending time with because there's
this fear. There's a fear of abandonment or rejection or
being considered weak or soft, depending on what your background
looks like or depending on what your friend betrayal may
have been in the past, because friend betrayal is an
incredibly deep and significant and painful trauma. But not being

(23:44):
open enough to communicate the happiness and not being open
enough to communicate the disappointment, the disappointment and the sadness
sometimes and you know, or the frustration or the anger,
and it's like, all of it is welcome in relationship.
If we expect to be in a relationship with anything.
It's reflected in the relationships we have with God and Spirit.

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It's reflected in the relationships we have with our families.
It's reflected in the relationships that we have with our lovers,
with our significant others, and the relationships we have with
our children. All emotions are a part of all relationships,
and so not saying that it's possible to do with
all friends, especially depending on how many you have, you know,

(24:27):
but having a couple at least one where you are
able to be that authentic self, You're able to voice
when you're let down. You're also able to stomach when
you've let someone else down and be honest and accountable
about it. It's incredibly important, you know, not just the
good times, but like, can you just be quiet together?

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Can you just spend time next to someone and not
fill it with relentless conversation. There's time for that too,
But you know, I judge a lot of my friendships
on and how comfortable are we when we can just
sit next to each other and be completely disconnected from
performance and just be in the nature of one another's energy.

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I love feeling that with people that I feel strongly
connected to. So, you know, think about you know, how
does someone make you feel like really in your bones,
like really in your body, intuitively trust yourself? Do you
feel on edge around people? Do you feel like you're
walking on eggshells? Are you noticing that you make other
people feel that way or they may be having that

(25:34):
projected reaction to you for other reasons. Are there opportunities
to open in conversation about any of it? You know,
start getting curious, ask questions. Are you asking your friends
enough questions? Are they asking enough questions about you? Are
they asking follow up questions to stories you've told and
things that you've shared. All of these things are the
nature of what being in relationship is. So when these

(25:56):
things are missing, we can't necessarily be in the deepest
level of intimacy with friends, of connection, of support, or
integrity with our friendships. Integrity and friendship is about being present,
even in moments of discomfort, even in moments when things
get tough. You know, how often are we showing up

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as who we know ourselves to be? How often are
we looking to take opportunity? Like maybe if we're hearing
something a friend says and we know that doesn't actually
align with who we know them to be or with
their values, are we speaking up? Are we nervous about it?

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We're nervous about it, and we don't do it. We
might be dropping our ball on the agreement we've made
spiritually to our friends. You know, it's like, are you
able to tell the truth in this connection? And if
someone able to tell the truth with you, the answer
to all the things that I'm asking, by the way,
is not going to be universally. Yes, that doesn't mean

(27:00):
drop the friendship. It might for some I trust you'll
explore that and you'll follow your gut. But sometimes it's
about having the conversation and then giving yourselves the time
in the space to explore a new mode of communication
with each other. That is possible. So a good example
might be again like having a tough conversation with a friend,

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telling them something they need to hear, even if it's difficult.
Because integrity does not always mean harmony. Integrity does not
always mean pleasant, It means truth, it means respect, it
means presence with what is Yeah, And just another little

(27:45):
thing I'd love to add for people exploring new friendship
with people, really start noticing if you're able to be
kind of like not just deep you, but like the
silly flirty you. You know, what is the lightest form

(28:05):
of who you are as long as it's authentic. That
is so necessary in friendship, not just like kind of
rehashing the worries and the tragedies sometimes or you know,
the kind of both being mad at somebody together, but like,
how light can you authentically be with another person? Not evasive,

(28:27):
but how light can you be with someone? That adds
so much pleasure in a connection. So another facet to
look at integrity. This is our third one is integrity
in relationships, especially romantic loving relationships. It is so so
so so important. This is a huge one. This is

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the one that creates very often generational legacy. And how
you're showing up in your intimate relationships. So when we
talk about integrity of love, it is not just about
being necessarily faithful in the traditional sense. It's about being
faithful to the emotional, spiritual, and physical aspects of the relationship.

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Are you being transparent about who you are, what your
needs are? And when we talk about needs, it's so
important to understand and identify how do we even define
that word for ourselves and how do we see it
defined other places. We're gonna have to do a whole
nother month deep dive podcast situation on needs alone. We

(29:37):
can't do that all right now, but I will say,
you know, the more work I've done on myself, the
more I've really realized and fallen in love with the
fact that I meet so many of my own needs effortlessly,
especially the emotional ones, and so a deep need I

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often haven't. Relationship is like connecting to people that see
the world similarly, that have a heart like mine, that
see beauty in the planet the way that I do,
that have a playfulness with life in the way that
I do, that have fascinations and interests, perhaps with the

(30:18):
same level of intensity. There is a respect for service
and for beauty and for empathy. That's a deep need. Like,
if that's not present for me in a relationship, it
would be very hard for me to be in the
relationship and give the way that I want to give
in the relationship because that is such a core need

(30:39):
for me. But especially because I'm not really in as
much requirement for as many of the other things, I
feel really good in those areas. But I think for
each of us those are different. Right. For some it
may be I need someone who has a tremendous amount
of sensitivity to my emotional life. And that's what we

(30:59):
have to identify when we're establishing what is integrity and
a relationship? To me, what is the way that I
show up in integrity for another? So are you being
transparent about those needs? Are you showing up as your
full self? Are you giving your partner the space to
do the same. Integrity and relationship means being very clear

(31:21):
about your boundaries, having expectations not just for the other person,
but expectations and really codes of conduct for your own
behavior and not just your behavior in the world, your
behavior when you're with other people. You may be attracted to,
but like, what is the core of your behavior, because

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my expectation and relationships is that your character is bringing
as much goodwill into our dynamic as mine is. Like
I live my life in such a way that my
hope and tention and desire is that I'm bringing good fortune, protection, community,
and care to my children and my grandchildren even when

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I'm not on the planet. And if you are in
relationship with someone that has a strong level of integrity,
you'll notice that that happens in your love relationship too,
when you are given the benefit of the doubt by
other people, or you're given goodwill or having good luck
in other areas, because the person you're an intimate, deep
connection and relationship with is magnetizing those experiences to themselves too.

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You know, integrity isn't just this code of conduct. It's
also sometimes this antenna that goes out and brings so
much into your life effortlessly integrity and relationships. Are you
communicating with love, respect, compassion, honesty. A good question to

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ask yourself when you're in communication with another person in
your own mind and heart, especially if it's a challenging one.
What would unconditional love do? What would unconditional love say?
What would someone in Mastery of Love do or say so?
An example of integrity and relationships could be very clear

(33:13):
and honest about who and what you are, your boundaries
very early in a relationship, sticking to them most, especially
when it's uncomfortable and when things get intense, and staying
true to the agreements that you've made with your partner
and yourself and really you know, those areas I think

(33:35):
where those foundational beliefs, you know, especially in Christ's teaching,
come forward, like do unto others is you'd have done
unto you? The golden rule. You know, that is something
we say it was such pleasantry, and very often it's

(33:56):
been said in environments that maybe it wasn't. Also the
behaviored in matter, but the fundamental core of that is integrity.
Do unto others is you'd have them do onto you,
especially and also when they're not behaving as good as
you are, can you still keep that high level of

(34:17):
personal behavior too. Sometimes it's yes, sometimes it's no, that's life,
but that is the goal. So that is integrity and relationships.
So the three ways we've kind of looked at integrity
today just to recap for us as you do some
soul work around this and kind of deepen in the

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way that you want to carve this out for you
and your life and your beliefs. Is where are you
in your spiritual integrity? Where are you in your friendship integrity?
And then where are you in your relationship integrity? Relationship
integrity in terms of those intimate, romantic, true loving connections

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and the intimacy of those familial connections, the intimacy of
parental connections with your parents or with your kids. How
does your integrity operate in those containers? A few ways
for you to kind of reflect on now, how integrity
shows up. Integrity shows up in the small things. It's

(35:21):
when you decide to make the right choice even when
no one is watching. It's when you decide to make
the right choice for yourself, right, like, are you having
integrity for you some of those deeper things? Are you
staying in things too long and letting yourself delude yourself
sometimes into thinking that it's righteous to do so or

(35:42):
that it somehow equates goodness when it's self punishment and fear.
You know only we can decide what those things are
for ourself, but bring it up for a review. It's
when you show up to keep your word, when you
honor your commitment, when you choose to act with honesty
even when it's not convenient. And this is in every

(36:06):
facet at work. Are you showing up at home? Are
you showing up for yourself? Privately? Are you showing up?
I think about integrity personally every day in my work
and how I show up for my team, for myself
and for those that God calls me to serve. It's
about staying aligned. So a lot of my integrity for

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myself is really being who I say I am in
my daily practice and the privacy of my own home
and life, like meditating every day even when I'm having
a really challenging day or I'm having an anxious day.
It's doing the things that really support my body and
the health and the vibranc there I want to have,

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even when it's annoying, even when I don't want to.
It's writing reminders everywhere in my house, so I will
do these things that I know allow me to be
the person that I say I am. It's about being
aligned with my purpose, being transparent in all aspects of
my life. So often, integrity isn't loud or flashy. Integrity

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is truly subtle, it's quiet, and it's deeply lived experience.
I'm going to say that one more time for everyone.
Integrity is not loud or flashy. Integrity is subtle, it's dignified,

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it's quiet, and it's lived and embodied. We're a couple
weeks away here in the US if you're listening in
the States to what will be our twenty twenty four election,
and so as you continue to reflect that inner work

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of integrity that you're doing noice where it's showing up
around you and the people that are in your life,
do those soul work questions that are in that download
Debbie Brown dot com at Deeply Well pod at Debbie
Brown on Instagram. The election is a few weeks away.
Integrity is going to play a crucial role in how
leaders show up. We must demand require it, we must

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look at the historic proof of it. It's essential on
how we show up as voters. Integrity in this aspect
means staying informed, not just following the crowd or choosing
based on convenience. And by not just following the crowd,
it doesn't also mean just be a devil's advocate or
just be a contrarian and do the opposite. It means

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sit in the tenets of everything that we're talking about.
What does the position really require and what are people
capable of doing? You know, and take this false ideal again.
I'm going to say it again, it's not about who
you can trust the most. We don't really know. We
don't know these people. You don't know. There's a lot

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of people in your day to day life and in
your families you can't and don't trust. Who can do
the job, Who has the excellence, who has the historical
evidence of doing the job, Who can be accountable, who
can do it when they don't feel like doing it,
Who can put the responsibility of what's at hand ahead

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of their own gain, need for pleasure, need for recognition.
Who can do it with integrity and in a way
that allows us to show up powerfully in the world,
in true power, not performative power. It's really important to
be thinking that way. With those principles in mind. We'll
see integrity in how candidates honor their promises or they don't,

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and we'll see it in how we hold them accountable
and how we engage with the political process ourselves. Democracy
thrives on integrity it thrives on the intecht of the
people participating in it. So something to think about, as

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we kind of in this episode. Just yeah, continue to savor.
Sink your teeth into this conversation. See how it's showing
up for you uniquely and your beautifully divinely designed an
aligned life, and let me know, let me know how

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it's feeling, how it's flowing. Share this episode with a friend,
Invite someone else into this conversation. Journal, journal, journal, Meditate, Meditate, meditate,
Take a deep breath with me here, beautiful. Next episode,
we're going to dive into it even more deeply. And

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before we end this episode, I'm really excited to share
that officially, our Deeply Well podcast merch is now available.
Go to Debbie Brown dot com if you are listening
to this episode on YouTube. If you're watching it, I
have one of the shirts on now. I'm wearing the
black kind of charcoal colored shirt that says healer on

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it and has a healing hand. It's my favorite one.
I wear this shirt a lot, so you can see
this right now in the video that is up on
the website. We also have this one, and they're all
kind of made to be oversized. So there's one that
says surprise me God, which is one of my favorite
sayings that came to me at a really pivotal point
in my journey. We also have one that just reps

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the podcast entirely and lets people know how you feel
you are deeply Well. We have another little crop top
that's another healer shirt. So we have big oversized shirts
and then oversized crop tops because this is just my jam.
And then also a deeply Well shirt this looks so good,
oh ye'all, And the one that I'm wearing. And then
our hats. I love these colors. We got nice little

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green and a nice little terra cotta color, and this
is a healer hat well. So you can find all
that on the website Debbie Brown dot com. I hope
you love it. If you get it, hit me, tweet me,
instagramy TikTok me, you know all the social media things
that we do at Debbie Brown. No mistay say the

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personalized medical or mental health guidance, and does not constitute
a provider patient relationship. As always, it is advisable to
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