August 8, 2025 • 31 mins
In this intimate solo episode of Deeply Well, Devi opens up about a part of her story — the journey from broadcast journalism to the creation of this very podcast, which began as Dropping Gems. What started as a shift in career eventually became a full-circle return to her truth.
Devi reflects on what it meant to unlearn the polished performance of traditional media and reclaim her authentic voice, one rooted in softness, presence, and real connection. This episode is an offering for anyone who’s ever felt the call to pivot, to let go of perfection, and to trust their own becoming.
She speaks candidly about the discomfort of stepping away from who the world expected her to be, the growth that comes from choosing vulnerability, and the sacredness of showing up as your whole imperfect self. She also shares updates regarding her sabbatical, the creative projects coming soon, and some gentle wisdom about planning for the future while staying grounded in the present moment.
This is a love note to your evolution. A reminder that your path is yours alone, and that even when it feels unfamiliar or nonlinear, it is still deeply worthy and divinely guided.
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Take a deep breath in through your nose.
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Holds it.
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Now, release slowly again, deep in, helle.
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Hold release, repeating internally to yourself as you connect to
my voice. I am deeply well. I am deeply well.
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I am deeply I'm Debbie Brown and this is the
Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place
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to land on your journey. A podcast for those that
are curious, creative, and ready to expand in higher consciousness.
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And self care. This is where we heal, this is
where we transcend. Welcome back to the show. I am
your host, Debbie Brown. Thank you for being in the
Deeply Well universe and joining us on this journey so wild.
So I'm doing a solo episode today, which I'm so
excited because I love solo episodes. I love to just yeah,
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connect and talk about all of the things. And I
was kind of looking back at the podcast journey I
have been doing this podcast. It was originally called Dropping Gems,
I want to say, for the last six seven years maybe.
And you know how iPhone is or I don't know
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if Android is like this too, but on iPhone now,
the way they will activate your memories is like next level,
like they send you this apple made reel of a
whole year of your life that you weren't expecting to
be confronted with, and before you know it, you are
diving down memory lane. And that's been happening to me
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a lot lately, especially as it relates to this podcast,
like having clips pop up or you know, episodes from
that first year. And I was just feeling so grateful
for what this journey is, and thinking in general about
the journey of evolution, especially as we age, but especially
as we age in purpose right, and the way that
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you know, we are kind of sharing in one season
and then sharing in a different season, or expanding or
contracting or all of the things. And I was laughing
because when I went back to the first season of
Dropping Gems, I remember that was maybe a year, maybe
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two years after I left my long term career in
broadcast journalism, and I had taken this long sabbatical, and
I remember I kept telling myself, I was trying to
figure out how to reclaim my voice as my own again.
And what I mean by that is not that anyone
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or anything had ownership of my voice, but when you
work in broadcasting, you are taught to use your voice
in such a specific way, and starting that career at eighteen,
you know, I had to learn, like what is my
most authentic voice? And I got frustrated because I felt
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like I was always going into broadcaster mode, whether anyone
else noticed that or not, I did. And broadcaster mode
is actually kind of the more polished version of how
you show up right when you're in front of a camera,
in front of a microphone, you project a little bit more,
you sit differently. For some people they put on an
entirely different voice, for others, you just kind of supercharge
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your voice. And also in the field that I was
working in, your taught word economy how to say more
with less words because you got to throw it a
commercial and specifically coming from FM radio, there was no
space for silence. Ever, that is the golden rule. There
can be no what we called dead air at any time,
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which is no sound or activity happening on camera, happening
on the microphone. But when you operate like that, it's
very compelling and it's very condensed and perfect to get
in and out as someone is getting in their car,
getting out of their car, changing the channel. But when
you want to really share and you want to do
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it from more of a humanistic point of view that
gets in the way. So I was in this process
of trying to unlearn how to be excellent for broadcasting,
if that makes sense. You know, I was trying to
unlearn how to be compelling and efficient. And I know
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that sounds counterintuitive, especially in the creator world we now
really exist in where everyone is trying to optimize themselves
in that way, and I was trying to have an
undoing of all of that. So it's just kind of funny.
I always find myself kind of being counterintuitive to whatever
the pace of you know, social life is. But that
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was such a journey, you know, being okay with the
ums and the silence, and you know, being okay with
not having to come up with a fast opinion or
a quick answer. And so looking back at that now
and now kind of sitting in this iteration of the show,
which is deeply well and being able to sit in
the truth of how I speak and how I communicate
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when I'm with people in my real life, I just
feel really grateful, and I feel grateful for all of
you that have been around since the beginning of that
journey to this moment, and it all serves purpose. You know,
it all serves purpose, and you're able to, I think,
sink into the different layers of your purpose and how
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you're showing up really incrementally. You know, it's so developmental,
and that's why none of us should be seeking perfection.
There is no way. When I recorded that very first
episode of Dropping Gems, and I was coming out of
deep broadcasting training, like, oh my god, there's no way
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I could be what I am right now in this second. Then,
just because I wanted to be, I had to learn,
I had a process. I had to come into all
the deep awarenesses. I was able to get all the
juicy stuff about who I am and how I like
to share by taking the time to develop it. And
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so I don't know who this is for. It was
definitely for me, but anybody listening, you know, if you're
at that stage of your process where you can really
see the end goal and there's frustration perhaps cropping up
around the road to get there, just know like that
road is valuable too. I love every episode that I've
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done between then and now, and I was my full
self in every episode, but I was what I was
able to be and share in that moment in time
in that way, and all of it's valid, all of
it's fine, all of it's honestly not just fine. All
of it is really really rewarding, and it's fun to
track that growth. It's fun to see your becoming in
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real time and then look back at it. So I've
really been enjoying that. And I think, you know, a
podcast or YouTube, we're all all the ways that we
share ourselves online. It's such interesting, such interesting information, you know,
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information about ourselves. I remember too for the last few years,
and it's so funny. And I know, I'm certain people
listening can resonate with this. I know a lot of
us are on the journey me and whatever ways we are.
But when you have a vision or a lane or
an understanding early and other people don't get it, other
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people don't understand it or see value in it. That
has been my life story every step of the way,
especially in this in this field, in this current iteration,
as it becomes more popular, and it's just interesting sitting
with that and coming to a place where it doesn't
have to feel like a burden. I remember kind of
feeling misunderstood or when I first entered this. You know,
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the really the world of service and meditation for just
so many years. And I've talked about this before, I know,
but for so many years people didn't get it or
see it as valuable, or thought it was silly or
weird that I was doing something like taking a sabbatical
or putting down the badge of busy or you know,
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not making who I worked for my entire identity. So
many people used to triggered by that and find it
strange or tell me that I was somehow doing it wrong.
And I was just like a decade early, that's it
before that kind of knowing sunk in for other people.
And in that time it used to feel frustrating. I
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used to feel really misunderstood, kind of you know, just
unseen for the deeper layers of who I was, where
everyone just wanted to judge others based on output and
based on aggrandizing or based on what they were considering,
you know, being someone who goes after what they want.
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And I knew for me, I had done that for
a long time, and I was okay stopping that, and
I was following what God told me to do. And
you know, sometimes you do things a decade before it
becomes popular, but how beautiful and it doesn't matter at all.
And the point is that you listen to your call,
and everyone else will listen to theirs when it comes,
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and they can all be different. But I was just
feeling gratitude for that, because when I first started deeply
well and for many years up into right now, you know,
everyone wants to give you advice and they tell you
things like, oh, well, you know people's attention span is
only sixty seconds, or you know you shouldn't do anything
over two minutes, or every episode should be twenty four
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exact minutes because you lose people. And I'm like, but
that's cool. I'm not doing it for popularity. I like
long form content. I'm a little girl that was raised
on PBS and NPR and KCET and KCRW here in
La So I like that, and the things I make
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are for other people that like that, that are missing
that in this new kind of popcorn atmosphere. And so
I think I'm just having gratitude for life right now,
and gratitude for the audience that has made their way
with me down this road or have found this and
for whatever multitude of reasons, resonate with it here. I
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appreciate that you know deeply, deeply, deeply, and I just
want to encourage everyone. You don't have to do what's
popular while it's popular. It is so easy to follow popularity.
It's not like anyone's doing anything hard, and everyone's given
all the infographics on how to copy it and repeat
it and do what everyone is doing. And that's cool, Right,
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there's space for that, and some people simply want that.
But if you don't, right, if you don't want that,
if you want to do things in whatever way you
feel you should do them, please do It. Doesn't matter
if it's the biggest or the loudest or the most popular.
But if that is your goal, absolutely go about it
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in the way that you believe will best lead you there.
But if that's not your goal, if your goal is
to just create and share and grow the vision you have,
as I share quite often, it's your life's work. It
can take your whole life. You don't need everybody to
find you. You just need the people who it's for
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to find you, and you can trust that you, being
yourself and doing it the way you feel led to,
will do exactly that. So I've been in sabbatical for
the month of July. And I'm saying that kind of
lightly because I have been working, but this was the
first month in years that I didn't step foot on
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a plane even once, and I feel like that changed
my life. I my god, have I enjoyed July and
just the ability to be in my innermost local environment.
Like I'm talking, I'm taking walks many times a day,
going to just the local stores, doing the things that
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are closest to my house, being with my son, and
not getting on any airplanes for any reason. It was
a revelation. Yeah, And I'm really figuring out how I
want twenty twenty, twenty twenty six to be, because as
soon as we're now in August and I got a
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lot of plane travel scheduled this month. In September, my god,
I am traveling more in one month than I ever have.
In September October looks the same. So my eyes are
ahead for twenty twenty six and really designing how I
want the flow of my life to be. And I
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think something I'm coming to beautiful terms with is that
most of what I am creating I will be live
and in person to share in Los Angeles and my
hope is to really galvanize community here in LA and
for anyone that wants to join, to create a space
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where you can fly in and have an LA experience
if you wish to connect to my work and my
live offerings that I'll be doing here. So figuring all
those things out. But I'm really excited about that. My
son will be in second grade when this school year starts.
And why does school start so early?
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Now?
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Anybody else with kids noticing that? Like when I was
a child, you go back to school after Labor Day,
these kids start school like the second week of August.
It's insane. It's the summer. What are we doing? So
I'm kind of you know, and I know all the
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parents listening. I am just figuring that part out, Like
my god, okay, school starting, let's get I gotta do this,
got to do that. Doctor's appointments that ooh close. So
diving into all of the things, but really thinking out
into next year. And I want to again encourage anyone
that's listening, you know, planning for January. It can start now.
We don't wait till January first to come to say,
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new year, New me. All right, how am I going
to go out there twenty twenty six. You don't got
to do heavy lifting now, but give yourself the space
to start thinking about things now, you know, based on
all the learning you've done so far this year, based
on everything you're discovering with some of the magic that
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summer brings, the ability to have a little more unaccounted
for time, to be enlivened by the heat and the
beauty and the long days. What are you learning about
yourself right now in this exact moment that can be
kind of thoughtfully structured and shared when you begin to
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more actively think about twenty twenty six, start journaling some
of that now. If you're catching this episode in the
month that I'm presenting it, which is August twenty twenty five,
shout out to the future beings that are listening to
this episode in a different year in time. Quest Mandela,
If that's you, I love you, boy, But start thinking
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about now and kind of writing down and just creating
some piles. How do you want to feel next year?
How do you want to show up in your life?
How do you want to show up personally in your
private time? How do you want to show up for
your family system? If you're connected to one, how do
you want to show up for your friends? If you're
connected to any how do you want to show up
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in your work? Some of those thoughts can really beautifully
start to seed right now in this moment with the
energetic potential of summer and all of its ease that
surrounds us. Fall kicks things up. We get more serious
in the fall, we start to hunker down, get ready
for winter, and then before we know what, we're in
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the thick of it, waiting for spring again. This is
how fast life happens for adults now, So use the
you what is the leisure, energetic potential of how it
feels in this summer to start planning those seeds now
so that when you go back to review it as
you get closer to the new year, it kind of
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has that space, It has that creativity, it has that energy,
and you can also just refine it. You might find
that everything is perfectly aligned and all you have to
do is kind of pop it into place, or you
might find that there's a whole new vision entirely. But
either way it can be a really great kind of
practice to dive into that now. So I wanted to
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also catch you all up on some things that we're
working on. So I will be heading to insight Timer
this fall. Really excited my amazing team at Devery Brown
Well Being. We are getting all of those things ready.
This has been like a really special summer of creativity.
So if you have been missing doing daily meditation with me.
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If you have, you know you're not able to catch
me as often on the app. I am creating a
space so that we can really dive into practice together
starting this fall, and I'm so excited about that. I'm
considering taking some writing to Substack. I'm not quite sure yet.
I don't know if that medium is going to be
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a natural fit for me. We'll see. I'm playing around
with some things, but I want to find more ways
to just authentically share the work. And I think, and
if you have been listening to me for a while
or follow me on Instagram, you know that I really
prioritize my natural life over my social media life. So
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I'm trying to find more ways to really share and
serve that don't have to be revolved around social media
for you to find. Because I find more and more
that I am going to be one of those people
that is most likely going to be even more prioritizing
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natural life over content and creation for social media. I
just love it here and I love being in person.
I'm a in person person. I love real life groups
of people, and I love one on one with people.
And finding more ways to do that to me is
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my highest priority. So yeah, thinking about all those things personally,
and I'm curious how everyone else is kind of feeling
their flow and you know what you're feeling, I think
pressured by and what you're feeling easin So you're connecting
to this episode, Yeah, hit me up on the Gram,
hit me up and the comment section on YouTube if
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you're watching this up. Also shout out to YouTube because
as you can see, we have figured out the lighting.
I know that the way we've been doing the videos,
I have been blending in with the background. This beige
face has been blending into this yellow wall behind me,
and so it hasn't you know, it hasn't looked as
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pristine as other clips. But I also I just want
to be myself. So you're not going to get a
full face of makeup and you're not going to get
all the things, but you're going to get the work. Baby,
You gonna get these words, You're gonna get the work.
But if you're watching on YouTube, and I always share
how much I love to see when you are on
social media, yeah you'll see that the lighting is kind
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of popping right now. So shout out to Jordan, shout
out to Danisha. We in this thing. And I want
to share too, for those that have been reading or
listening to my new book, Living in Wisdom, thank you.
I'm so grateful that I got my sales numbers back
from my agent, and I was shocked and amazed and
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just profoundly grateful for the thousands and thousands and thousands
of you that have picked up a copy of Living
in Wisdom. I'm just so grateful. I'm so grateful for
all the ways people that have now been reading it
and applying and practicing with it have been sharing with me.
I've been getting a lot of emails and been getting
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a lot of dms. My deepest apologies for not always
having the space and time to respond to everything that
does come across my desk, but please know I am grateful, grateful,
grateful for it. And I wanted to ask that if
you've listened to my book on Audible, or you have
bought my book on Amazon or bought my book on Barn's,
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Noble and Books a million. If you have this space
in your life and you feel called, I would deeply
appreciate you going and leaving a review. If you could
leave five stars, if that's how you authentically feel, and
if you can write a quick review, I would be
so grateful. If the book is helping or changing or
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supporting you in any way in your life, I would
be so grateful if you took just a few minutes
to do that. It's hard sometimes to ask for that
kind of stuff because I know everybody's busy, and I'm like, nah,
you know the work is enough. But it does matter.
It does really matter, and it matters to the publishers.
It matters to potentially people that are on the fence
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about buying the book. You know, let them know how
it's showing up for you. If you have this space
to do that, I'd be really grateful, especially if it's
on Amazon. My Amazon numbers are so amazing, so to
be able to see some reviews that further quantify that,
I think will help other people make that choice. If
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this book is the right fit for them to. My deepest, deepest,
heartfelt desires with Living in Wisdom was for it to
be a meaningful, useful resource for your life, something that
you can turn to to remember, to learn, and to
find practices that help you evolve your unique practice and
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process for your unique destiny and purpose and your connection
with a divine So yeah, I would appreciate that Audible too,
if you're listening on Audible. I loved voicing that book
so so much gratitude for that. I'm excited. I'm headed
to Martha's Vineyard this weekend, my second time going as
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an LA girl. I never knew that to be a destination,
and to be quite honest, I always maybe felt like
that when it going to a place like Martha's Vineyard
wouldn't necessarily be the fit for me, because I think
I was seeing it as something that was held differently,
maybe too elite for me in some ways, or you know,
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it represented to me something a specific kind of thing,
I think, And when I went for the first time
a couple of years ago, it was one of the
most healing experiences because it's stunningly beautiful but so safe,
like one of the safest places I've ever been, and
I didn't know how much my nervous system needed that,
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being able to take safe walks at night, being able
to just walk through these like fields of flowers. We
all deserve beauty, we all deserve safety, we all deserve
idealic environments, and for some of us, it's not always
the case that we can ever naturally be near any
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of that. And so even being able to find out
the history of Martha's Vineyard and Edgar Town and Oak
Bluffs and the Ink well, and I'm just like, Wow,
what a special place that so many families have been
able to find refuge and beauty in. And so I'm
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headed there this week to teach meditation with this amazing
organization called Leading Women to Find, which was founded by
the amazing Deborah Lee. And I will be, yeah, doing
meditation and some workshops, but also your girl will be frolicking,
because this has been a frolic sabbatical summer. So I
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can't wait to get inspired by the rest that I'll
be able to experience there, by the ease, by the beauty,
by the long walks, by the bike rides, and that
is all I've wanted from summer. I'm so excited to
do that and can't wait to share some of that
with you while I am there. So I did not
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even get to one of the things I had on
my list to talk about today, but that will happen
in another episode. Thank y'all so much for joining me.
My soul work for everyone listening to this episode. First
and foremost my soul work is if you are listening
to this episode in real time and it is summer
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for you, but also even if it's not, what is
a way you can add a little more ease and
beauty to this summer, even if just for a moment.
How can you savor the end of this summer just
for you? And also I want you to start thinking
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about now for this soul work, what have you learned
about yourself so far in the last seven to eight
months of this year, and how can you, without pressurizing it,
start getting some of that on paper, start creating some
structure of what the information that you have a mast,
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how can you start plugging it into the dreams you
have for twenty twenty six and the natural flow that's
starting to arise in you, the understanding that is starting
to come forward about how you are meant to move
in your life in this next year, a lot has
changed and a lot is changing depending on where you're
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listening to this episode. The country looks different. I'm in America,
I'm in LA. The landscape of identity, of service, of purpose,
of need looks a lot different right now, and it's
going to continue to change rapidly. The job force, the
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workforce is changing. What humanity needs right now is changing.
So depending on the industry that you're in, or depending
on what you understand your greater purpose and life work
to be, think about it from that lens. How are
you evolving with the evolving world, and how is the
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way that you are going to share yourself or share
your work evolving? And how can we start to take
a little bite out of that now so that we
can really sink our teeth into it when this next
year arrives. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you
for joining me on this journey. And it is always
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a deep joy and privilege and honor to be a
companion with you on your journey. Catching next week, this
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Take a deep breath in through your nose.
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Holds it.
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Now, release slowly again, deep in, helle.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hold release, repeating internally to yourself as you connect to
my voice. I am deeply well. I am deeply well.
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I am deeply I'm Debbie Brown and this is the
Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place
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to land on your journey. A podcast for those that
are curious, creative, and ready to expand in higher consciousness.
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And self care. This is where we heal, this is
where we transcend. Welcome back to the show. I am
your host, Debbie Brown. Thank you for being in the
Deeply Well universe and joining us on this journey so wild.
So I'm doing a solo episode today, which I'm so
excited because I love solo episodes. I love to just yeah,
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connect and talk about all of the things. And I
was kind of looking back at the podcast journey I
have been doing this podcast. It was originally called Dropping Gems,
I want to say, for the last six seven years maybe.
And you know how iPhone is or I don't know
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if Android is like this too, but on iPhone now,
the way they will activate your memories is like next level,
like they send you this apple made reel of a
whole year of your life that you weren't expecting to
be confronted with, and before you know it, you are
diving down memory lane. And that's been happening to me
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a lot lately, especially as it relates to this podcast,
like having clips pop up or you know, episodes from
that first year. And I was just feeling so grateful
for what this journey is, and thinking in general about
the journey of evolution, especially as we age, but especially
as we age in purpose right, and the way that
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you know, we are kind of sharing in one season
and then sharing in a different season, or expanding or
contracting or all of the things. And I was laughing
because when I went back to the first season of
Dropping Gems, I remember that was maybe a year, maybe
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two years after I left my long term career in
broadcast journalism, and I had taken this long sabbatical, and
I remember I kept telling myself, I was trying to
figure out how to reclaim my voice as my own again.
And what I mean by that is not that anyone
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or anything had ownership of my voice, but when you
work in broadcasting, you are taught to use your voice
in such a specific way, and starting that career at eighteen,
you know, I had to learn, like what is my
most authentic voice? And I got frustrated because I felt
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like I was always going into broadcaster mode, whether anyone
else noticed that or not, I did. And broadcaster mode
is actually kind of the more polished version of how
you show up right when you're in front of a camera,
in front of a microphone, you project a little bit more,
you sit differently. For some people they put on an
entirely different voice, for others, you just kind of supercharge
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your voice. And also in the field that I was
working in, your taught word economy how to say more
with less words because you got to throw it a
commercial and specifically coming from FM radio, there was no
space for silence. Ever, that is the golden rule. There
can be no what we called dead air at any time,
(05:11):
which is no sound or activity happening on camera, happening
on the microphone. But when you operate like that, it's
very compelling and it's very condensed and perfect to get
in and out as someone is getting in their car,
getting out of their car, changing the channel. But when
you want to really share and you want to do
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it from more of a humanistic point of view that
gets in the way. So I was in this process
of trying to unlearn how to be excellent for broadcasting,
if that makes sense. You know, I was trying to
unlearn how to be compelling and efficient. And I know
(05:53):
that sounds counterintuitive, especially in the creator world we now
really exist in where everyone is trying to optimize themselves
in that way, and I was trying to have an
undoing of all of that. So it's just kind of funny.
I always find myself kind of being counterintuitive to whatever
the pace of you know, social life is. But that
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was such a journey, you know, being okay with the
ums and the silence, and you know, being okay with
not having to come up with a fast opinion or
a quick answer. And so looking back at that now
and now kind of sitting in this iteration of the show,
which is deeply well and being able to sit in
the truth of how I speak and how I communicate
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when I'm with people in my real life, I just
feel really grateful, and I feel grateful for all of
you that have been around since the beginning of that
journey to this moment, and it all serves purpose. You know,
it all serves purpose, and you're able to, I think,
sink into the different layers of your purpose and how
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you're showing up really incrementally. You know, it's so developmental,
and that's why none of us should be seeking perfection.
There is no way. When I recorded that very first
episode of Dropping Gems, and I was coming out of
deep broadcasting training, like, oh my god, there's no way
(07:22):
I could be what I am right now in this second. Then,
just because I wanted to be, I had to learn,
I had a process. I had to come into all
the deep awarenesses. I was able to get all the
juicy stuff about who I am and how I like
to share by taking the time to develop it. And
(07:44):
so I don't know who this is for. It was
definitely for me, but anybody listening, you know, if you're
at that stage of your process where you can really
see the end goal and there's frustration perhaps cropping up
around the road to get there, just know like that
road is valuable too. I love every episode that I've
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done between then and now, and I was my full
self in every episode, but I was what I was
able to be and share in that moment in time
in that way, and all of it's valid, all of
it's fine, all of it's honestly not just fine. All
of it is really really rewarding, and it's fun to
track that growth. It's fun to see your becoming in
(08:29):
real time and then look back at it. So I've
really been enjoying that. And I think, you know, a
podcast or YouTube, we're all all the ways that we
share ourselves online. It's such interesting, such interesting information, you know,
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information about ourselves. I remember too for the last few years,
and it's so funny. And I know, I'm certain people
listening can resonate with this. I know a lot of
us are on the journey me and whatever ways we are.
But when you have a vision or a lane or
an understanding early and other people don't get it, other
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people don't understand it or see value in it. That
has been my life story every step of the way,
especially in this in this field, in this current iteration,
as it becomes more popular, and it's just interesting sitting
with that and coming to a place where it doesn't
have to feel like a burden. I remember kind of
feeling misunderstood or when I first entered this. You know,
(09:34):
the really the world of service and meditation for just
so many years. And I've talked about this before, I know,
but for so many years people didn't get it or
see it as valuable, or thought it was silly or
weird that I was doing something like taking a sabbatical
or putting down the badge of busy or you know,
(09:54):
not making who I worked for my entire identity. So
many people used to triggered by that and find it
strange or tell me that I was somehow doing it wrong.
And I was just like a decade early, that's it
before that kind of knowing sunk in for other people.
And in that time it used to feel frustrating. I
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used to feel really misunderstood, kind of you know, just
unseen for the deeper layers of who I was, where
everyone just wanted to judge others based on output and
based on aggrandizing or based on what they were considering,
you know, being someone who goes after what they want.
(10:39):
And I knew for me, I had done that for
a long time, and I was okay stopping that, and
I was following what God told me to do. And
you know, sometimes you do things a decade before it
becomes popular, but how beautiful and it doesn't matter at all.
And the point is that you listen to your call,
and everyone else will listen to theirs when it comes,
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and they can all be different. But I was just
feeling gratitude for that, because when I first started deeply
well and for many years up into right now, you know,
everyone wants to give you advice and they tell you
things like, oh, well, you know people's attention span is
only sixty seconds, or you know you shouldn't do anything
over two minutes, or every episode should be twenty four
(11:23):
exact minutes because you lose people. And I'm like, but
that's cool. I'm not doing it for popularity. I like
long form content. I'm a little girl that was raised
on PBS and NPR and KCET and KCRW here in
La So I like that, and the things I make
(11:45):
are for other people that like that, that are missing
that in this new kind of popcorn atmosphere. And so
I think I'm just having gratitude for life right now,
and gratitude for the audience that has made their way
with me down this road or have found this and
for whatever multitude of reasons, resonate with it here. I
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appreciate that you know deeply, deeply, deeply, and I just
want to encourage everyone. You don't have to do what's
popular while it's popular. It is so easy to follow popularity.
It's not like anyone's doing anything hard, and everyone's given
all the infographics on how to copy it and repeat
it and do what everyone is doing. And that's cool, Right,
(12:31):
there's space for that, and some people simply want that.
But if you don't, right, if you don't want that,
if you want to do things in whatever way you
feel you should do them, please do It. Doesn't matter
if it's the biggest or the loudest or the most popular.
But if that is your goal, absolutely go about it
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in the way that you believe will best lead you there.
But if that's not your goal, if your goal is
to just create and share and grow the vision you have,
as I share quite often, it's your life's work. It
can take your whole life. You don't need everybody to
find you. You just need the people who it's for
(13:15):
to find you, and you can trust that you, being
yourself and doing it the way you feel led to,
will do exactly that. So I've been in sabbatical for
the month of July. And I'm saying that kind of
lightly because I have been working, but this was the
first month in years that I didn't step foot on
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a plane even once, and I feel like that changed
my life. I my god, have I enjoyed July and
just the ability to be in my innermost local environment.
Like I'm talking, I'm taking walks many times a day,
going to just the local stores, doing the things that
(14:01):
are closest to my house, being with my son, and
not getting on any airplanes for any reason. It was
a revelation. Yeah, And I'm really figuring out how I
want twenty twenty, twenty twenty six to be, because as
soon as we're now in August and I got a
(14:22):
lot of plane travel scheduled this month. In September, my god,
I am traveling more in one month than I ever have.
In September October looks the same. So my eyes are
ahead for twenty twenty six and really designing how I
want the flow of my life to be. And I
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think something I'm coming to beautiful terms with is that
most of what I am creating I will be live
and in person to share in Los Angeles and my
hope is to really galvanize community here in LA and
for anyone that wants to join, to create a space
(15:04):
where you can fly in and have an LA experience
if you wish to connect to my work and my
live offerings that I'll be doing here. So figuring all
those things out. But I'm really excited about that. My
son will be in second grade when this school year starts.
And why does school start so early?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Anybody else with kids noticing that? Like when I was
a child, you go back to school after Labor Day,
these kids start school like the second week of August.
It's insane. It's the summer. What are we doing? So
I'm kind of you know, and I know all the
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parents listening. I am just figuring that part out, Like
my god, okay, school starting, let's get I gotta do this,
got to do that. Doctor's appointments that ooh close. So
diving into all of the things, but really thinking out
into next year. And I want to again encourage anyone
that's listening, you know, planning for January. It can start now.
We don't wait till January first to come to say,
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new year, New me. All right, how am I going
to go out there twenty twenty six. You don't got
to do heavy lifting now, but give yourself the space
to start thinking about things now, you know, based on
all the learning you've done so far this year, based
on everything you're discovering with some of the magic that
(16:29):
summer brings, the ability to have a little more unaccounted
for time, to be enlivened by the heat and the
beauty and the long days. What are you learning about
yourself right now in this exact moment that can be
kind of thoughtfully structured and shared when you begin to
(16:50):
more actively think about twenty twenty six, start journaling some
of that now. If you're catching this episode in the
month that I'm presenting it, which is August twenty twenty five,
shout out to the future beings that are listening to
this episode in a different year in time. Quest Mandela,
If that's you, I love you, boy, But start thinking
(17:11):
about now and kind of writing down and just creating
some piles. How do you want to feel next year?
How do you want to show up in your life?
How do you want to show up personally in your
private time? How do you want to show up for
your family system? If you're connected to one, how do
you want to show up for your friends? If you're
connected to any how do you want to show up
(17:31):
in your work? Some of those thoughts can really beautifully
start to seed right now in this moment with the
energetic potential of summer and all of its ease that
surrounds us. Fall kicks things up. We get more serious
in the fall, we start to hunker down, get ready
for winter, and then before we know what, we're in
(17:53):
the thick of it, waiting for spring again. This is
how fast life happens for adults now, So use the
you what is the leisure, energetic potential of how it
feels in this summer to start planning those seeds now
so that when you go back to review it as
you get closer to the new year, it kind of
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has that space, It has that creativity, it has that energy,
and you can also just refine it. You might find
that everything is perfectly aligned and all you have to
do is kind of pop it into place, or you
might find that there's a whole new vision entirely. But
either way it can be a really great kind of
practice to dive into that now. So I wanted to
(18:43):
also catch you all up on some things that we're
working on. So I will be heading to insight Timer
this fall. Really excited my amazing team at Devery Brown
Well Being. We are getting all of those things ready.
This has been like a really special summer of creativity.
So if you have been missing doing daily meditation with me.
(19:07):
If you have, you know you're not able to catch
me as often on the app. I am creating a
space so that we can really dive into practice together
starting this fall, and I'm so excited about that. I'm
considering taking some writing to Substack. I'm not quite sure yet.
I don't know if that medium is going to be
(19:30):
a natural fit for me. We'll see. I'm playing around
with some things, but I want to find more ways
to just authentically share the work. And I think, and
if you have been listening to me for a while
or follow me on Instagram, you know that I really
prioritize my natural life over my social media life. So
(19:51):
I'm trying to find more ways to really share and
serve that don't have to be revolved around social media
for you to find. Because I find more and more
that I am going to be one of those people
that is most likely going to be even more prioritizing
(20:14):
natural life over content and creation for social media. I
just love it here and I love being in person.
I'm a in person person. I love real life groups
of people, and I love one on one with people.
And finding more ways to do that to me is
(20:36):
my highest priority. So yeah, thinking about all those things personally,
and I'm curious how everyone else is kind of feeling
their flow and you know what you're feeling, I think
pressured by and what you're feeling easin So you're connecting
to this episode, Yeah, hit me up on the Gram,
hit me up and the comment section on YouTube if
(20:59):
you're watching this up. Also shout out to YouTube because
as you can see, we have figured out the lighting.
I know that the way we've been doing the videos,
I have been blending in with the background. This beige
face has been blending into this yellow wall behind me,
and so it hasn't you know, it hasn't looked as
(21:20):
pristine as other clips. But I also I just want
to be myself. So you're not going to get a
full face of makeup and you're not going to get
all the things, but you're going to get the work. Baby,
You gonna get these words, You're gonna get the work.
But if you're watching on YouTube, and I always share
how much I love to see when you are on
social media, yeah you'll see that the lighting is kind
(21:43):
of popping right now. So shout out to Jordan, shout
out to Danisha. We in this thing. And I want
to share too, for those that have been reading or
listening to my new book, Living in Wisdom, thank you.
I'm so grateful that I got my sales numbers back
from my agent, and I was shocked and amazed and
(22:04):
just profoundly grateful for the thousands and thousands and thousands
of you that have picked up a copy of Living
in Wisdom. I'm just so grateful. I'm so grateful for
all the ways people that have now been reading it
and applying and practicing with it have been sharing with me.
I've been getting a lot of emails and been getting
(22:26):
a lot of dms. My deepest apologies for not always
having the space and time to respond to everything that
does come across my desk, but please know I am grateful, grateful,
grateful for it. And I wanted to ask that if
you've listened to my book on Audible, or you have
bought my book on Amazon or bought my book on Barn's,
(22:49):
Noble and Books a million. If you have this space
in your life and you feel called, I would deeply
appreciate you going and leaving a review. If you could
leave five stars, if that's how you authentically feel, and
if you can write a quick review, I would be
so grateful. If the book is helping or changing or
(23:11):
supporting you in any way in your life, I would
be so grateful if you took just a few minutes
to do that. It's hard sometimes to ask for that
kind of stuff because I know everybody's busy, and I'm like, nah,
you know the work is enough. But it does matter.
It does really matter, and it matters to the publishers.
It matters to potentially people that are on the fence
(23:34):
about buying the book. You know, let them know how
it's showing up for you. If you have this space
to do that, I'd be really grateful, especially if it's
on Amazon. My Amazon numbers are so amazing, so to
be able to see some reviews that further quantify that,
I think will help other people make that choice. If
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this book is the right fit for them to. My deepest, deepest,
heartfelt desires with Living in Wisdom was for it to
be a meaningful, useful resource for your life, something that
you can turn to to remember, to learn, and to
find practices that help you evolve your unique practice and
(24:18):
process for your unique destiny and purpose and your connection
with a divine So yeah, I would appreciate that Audible too,
if you're listening on Audible. I loved voicing that book
so so much gratitude for that. I'm excited. I'm headed
to Martha's Vineyard this weekend, my second time going as
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an LA girl. I never knew that to be a destination,
and to be quite honest, I always maybe felt like
that when it going to a place like Martha's Vineyard
wouldn't necessarily be the fit for me, because I think
I was seeing it as something that was held differently,
maybe too elite for me in some ways, or you know,
(25:04):
it represented to me something a specific kind of thing,
I think, And when I went for the first time
a couple of years ago, it was one of the
most healing experiences because it's stunningly beautiful but so safe,
like one of the safest places I've ever been, and
I didn't know how much my nervous system needed that,
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being able to take safe walks at night, being able
to just walk through these like fields of flowers. We
all deserve beauty, we all deserve safety, we all deserve
idealic environments, and for some of us, it's not always
the case that we can ever naturally be near any
(25:48):
of that. And so even being able to find out
the history of Martha's Vineyard and Edgar Town and Oak
Bluffs and the Ink well, and I'm just like, Wow,
what a special place that so many families have been
able to find refuge and beauty in. And so I'm
(26:09):
headed there this week to teach meditation with this amazing
organization called Leading Women to Find, which was founded by
the amazing Deborah Lee. And I will be, yeah, doing
meditation and some workshops, but also your girl will be frolicking,
because this has been a frolic sabbatical summer. So I
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can't wait to get inspired by the rest that I'll
be able to experience there, by the ease, by the beauty,
by the long walks, by the bike rides, and that
is all I've wanted from summer. I'm so excited to
do that and can't wait to share some of that
with you while I am there. So I did not
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even get to one of the things I had on
my list to talk about today, but that will happen
in another episode. Thank y'all so much for joining me.
My soul work for everyone listening to this episode. First
and foremost my soul work is if you are listening
to this episode in real time and it is summer
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for you, but also even if it's not, what is
a way you can add a little more ease and
beauty to this summer, even if just for a moment.
How can you savor the end of this summer just
for you? And also I want you to start thinking
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about now for this soul work, what have you learned
about yourself so far in the last seven to eight
months of this year, and how can you, without pressurizing it,
start getting some of that on paper, start creating some
structure of what the information that you have a mast,
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how can you start plugging it into the dreams you
have for twenty twenty six and the natural flow that's
starting to arise in you, the understanding that is starting
to come forward about how you are meant to move
in your life in this next year, a lot has
changed and a lot is changing depending on where you're
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listening to this episode. The country looks different. I'm in America,
I'm in LA. The landscape of identity, of service, of purpose,
of need looks a lot different right now, and it's
going to continue to change rapidly. The job force, the
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workforce is changing. What humanity needs right now is changing.
So depending on the industry that you're in, or depending
on what you understand your greater purpose and life work
to be, think about it from that lens. How are
you evolving with the evolving world, and how is the
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way that you are going to share yourself or share
your work evolving? And how can we start to take
a little bite out of that now so that we
can really sink our teeth into it when this next
year arrives. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you
for joining me on this journey. And it is always
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a deep joy and privilege and honor to be a
companion with you on your journey. Catching next week, this
is Deeply Well. Thank you for listening. No mistay, the
content presented on Deeply Wells serves solely for educational and
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personalized medical or mental health health guidance and does not
constitute a provider patient relationship. As always, it is advisable
to consult with your healthcare provider or health team for
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