November 6, 2025 • 30 mins
Saddle up because part two shines a light on the darker themes of the episode. From picking sides when parents part ways, to stay-at-home moms who endure domestic shame AND blame. Plus, a part of Nicolette Sheridan’s past you didn’t know, and Teri’s go-to coping tool when times get tough.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted, the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch
hosted by me, Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen,
and my real life daughter Emerson Tenney.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome back to Desperately Devoted.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Our conversation about season one, episode seven, Anything you Can Do.
We are jumping back in at an incredible place in
the story seeing of redeeming themselves while Lynette in the
park trying, is strung out in the park like and
she looks awful.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Felicity is committed to and playing this character would be
so well. And it is hilarious to see the kids
running around on the jungle gym and she is giving
I kept thinking of Timothy Shalome and a beautiful boy
where he is like heroin addict. But of course it's
about kids, Ady d.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
But she is she's needing her fixed.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, she is jones ing, yes, and she shot down.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
The threat at the end. Yeah. Well, when girl scouts come,
when girl Scout Clickie comes, just don't come to my door,
you know, I know, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Like such a week week she could possibly leverage any
amount of power.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
But it leads her into scheduling a play eight with
another neighborhood boy basically to essentially try and get some
of that child's add medication.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
That's a pretty big low.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Which I have to say in this scene.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The second the scene popped up, I screamed out loud
because the boy's mom in this guest star character is
Terry Walters, who is my dad's sister in law. Oh
my gosh, I know what I obviously. I mean, I've
known her for many many years in my life and
love her. And this was in two thousand and four.
(01:54):
I was like, what a small world overlap. I never
knew that she was an actress, or I knew she
was an actress, but I just never knew that she
was in Desperate Housewives. And I has never come up.
And I don't even know she remembers it. It's such
a small moment. I imagine she would remember it. But I
was I was laughing out loud that this is who
(02:16):
is playing the character of the mom that Lenna steals
the pills gry wool.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
That wild, wild, small world.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Okay, So I had a moment that I thought was
really like stop. You talk about being like stopped by
a surprise. I was stopped because I thought this might
I don't know if this is going to be relevant
to you guys, But okay, So when Rex and Bury
are in this dinner scene and they're telling the kids
(02:46):
that they're getting divorced, and you know, sort of talking
about what that might be like, and the Sun says,
can I live with dad?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So quickly?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
And I mean you just see the world fall out
from underneath Breeth like it. It just wasn't ever a
consideration that she somehow wasn't a good enough mother or
to be able to hold her son's affection, and so
(03:25):
that not only is her marriage falling away, but her
children are falling away too. It's really I mean really
I had to stop the TV there too because it
was and I'm really grateful. I don't I don't have
that experience with you. I think, you know, we're really close,
and but I think a lot of people do. Yeah.
I think I think a lot of people have. I mean,
(03:48):
I have a pretty distant relationship, even though I spend
a lot of my life taking care of my parents.
Do I think emotionally there is a lot of distance there.
You know. It's not that there's not a it's not
a loving support system. It's a it's a well, not
reciprocally reciprocally any I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I mean, And I think that's the interesting thing also
about the idea of divorce when kids are teenagers or
starting you know, older in middle school and high school,
that you don't really consider when parents get divorced, Like
the age that I was when you got divorced.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know, I was five and a half.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Of course, you know you both you and my dad
were great parents, and there was never a question about
I was going to spend time with both of you,
equal time with both of you. But when your kids
are autonomous ish teenagers, they have their own perceptions about
who they think is to blame or who, and you know,
they're obviously I think.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And there's a child in their schools or maybe certain programs,
or certainly for a young boy who's getting into his
going to strip clubs, he's getting into his sexual kind
of awakening. Maybe he wants to be around more masculinity
and wants to be around his dad, all super legit things.
But I just know I do have some friends that
(05:03):
are still having their kids go off to college for
the first time. Oh and even though it's not in
a sad way the way this this particular family a
Breon Rex dynamic is. But it's still it's a it's
a loss, it's a it's a it's a grief. It's
an empty nesting thing. Yeah, and I don't know. So
this scene really got me.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, and it is hard.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
It's hard to see how how as Emerson mentioned that
line is at the kind of at the beginning of
the scene. And you can imagine knowing Breeze character by
now that she's given this conversation a lot of thought
and consideration of how she's going to handle it, how
it's going to go, what's the best way of presenting
this news to them, and then she is sidelined so
quickly with that level of hurt of heart pain, direct
(05:50):
heart pain. And then it kind of builds because she
asks Danielle shout out to Joy, who I'm very close
with still and absolutely adore.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
But but she yeah, she's.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
So great and and you know, then she says to Danielle,
do you feel that way? And Danielle says, I don't
really care as long as I have my own bathroom.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And it's it's like a doubling up of we.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Not only don't you know, are not choosing you, but
we don't even you know, in this case, Danielle doesn't
even care. And oh gosh, yeah, my heart really hurt
for Brion that scene as well.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I just yeah, and it made me wonder about I mean,
especially about her daughter, because we've seen all of Bree's
conflict with her son and obvious maybe reasons why he
would not want to be living with her, but the
level of kind of apathy that her daughter seems to
have about where she's going to be living made me
just think a lot about how what are the ways
(06:45):
that we guard ourselves against painful scenarios? You know, it
seems like her daughter has put up such a huge
dissociative wall around even addressing the fact that there's a
lot of hurt and pain and confusion in her relationship
with her mom, to the point where instead of being
(07:06):
able to respond with any level of emotion, she goes, well,
I just want to make sure I'm own the bathroom, which.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Feels really honest, but you're right about the psychology that
comes behind it. I mean, I don't know, what do
you do? I think I'm i error in deep hurt
in putting up walls. Yeah, and I and I say
that it's I say that it's I wish I had
a different tool like I wish I was when I'm
very hurt, which I think it takes actually kind of
(07:33):
a lot to get me really hurt. But I think
once you do, I think it's I think that's my
protective thing is like a wall, and it's I don't
it's not great because it because it means that I
just can't communicate anymore. But it's just too much pain,
I think.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
I think, Yeah, it's interesting how separation seems to be
a common coping mechanism and whether that's defensiveness, whether that's
just going inside oneself or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I had an illuminating moment in.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
My life when my sister Gillian pointed out to me
that when I'm confronted with big feelings, whether that be
anger or sadness or overwhelm.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That I go to sleep. Oh wow, And she.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That seems like a positive tool.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean, it's positive for my under eyeback opposite.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, And I think it's a combination of things.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I think it allows my brain, which gets really crowded
to just shut off for a few hours, and it
also is a time passer inherently, you know. And then
it gives some space because when I wake up, I've
had built in space.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And I also think maybe the surge of.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Emotions I feel does make me exhausted, and then I
just decide to turn turn off and tune out by
going to sleep.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's so interesting. Do you have what's your Do you
think you have a pattern?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean I think I go to like I like
a like a If I'm really really frustrated about something,
I will I will scream along to Meg the Stallion's
hiss no, and then maybe like go for a run.
I like to have some sort of physical release. I'm
(09:15):
also really big on I think I maybe if I
shut down, I just sit on top of the feelings
that I'm feeling. But I also don't believe in being reactive.
Like I recognize I can be hurt and that's not
always the best time to respond immediately to the person
that's hurt you. So I am a big proponent of
(09:38):
when I'm really upset about something, write a letter, which
actually Meg the Stallion says at the end of Hiss
but that's not where I got the idea from.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I writing a letter. I write, don't you the person?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I write a letter to the person, and sometimes it
can go on for pages, and I use every every
explicit word, like every way. Would never actually talk to someone,
but all of the feelings that I'm feeling, get them
out onto paper, set it aside, do nothing about.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It for the day, and then the next day, after
you've slept, you know, maybe reapproach it.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
What part of these emotions do I actually need to
communicate to get something out of this exchange? Which of
these emotions are just reactive? And it's good that they're
in the letter and I got them out, but I'm
certainly not going to share them. Or is there actually
nothing that I'm gonna get from confronting this person? That's
great because sometimes there isn't. Sometimes as much as you
(10:43):
maybe want to make someone know that they were wrong
or they hurt you, there's not actually an objective to
be gained.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wise. Emerson.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
We've been building to the iconic scene that is now
a gift? Is it gift for Jiff?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think it is Giff.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's it's Giff. We're getting we're getting feedback from the room.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Is the peanut butter gift? Is the imaging?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yes? Okay, well, okay, so things culminate at Saddle Ranch,
and I think it's hilarious that it's at Saddle Ranch
and it's called Saddle Ranch, which is because Westeria Lane
exists in a place that is nowhere, you know, it
is like in America until they're calling out an iconic
(11:42):
place in West Hollywood in Los Angeles by its own
actual name.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Okay, so let's set this up.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Let's set this up.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
So we have we know that we've got Kendra, the
mysterious new hot chick who's checking up with Mike. We
have the first date that didn't happen with Susan.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And he makes mince meat out of susan humiliation.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Then Edie tips Susan off that Mike is headed to
Saddle Ranch with this mysterious Kendra.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And she kind of and invites Susan.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
They go together, which is leading me to a comment
we've gotten from a listener. Okay, it was on Spotify.
They didn't even write directly in Camilla I believe is
her name. Hi, Camilla, I loved your Spotify comment, and
now I will talk about it. I'm gonna paraphrase it.
(12:34):
But she said that she is rewatching the show for
the upteenth time, and she always thought that Susan and
Edie had romantic tension and would make a really good
romantic storyline. And then another woman responded to the comment
totally agree.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh wow, I just thought.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I mean, I know, this is obviously not where the
show goes, and maybe Hunting Wives picked up all the
missed lesbian opportunities from But I kind of love the
alternate universe we could live in where Susan and Edie
could go from rivals to lovers.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I love a rivals to lovers narrative.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
And everybody's been begging for a reboot. I haven't heard
a better suggestion than mad in twenty years. So yeah,
you know, are you out there? Oh my god, Lives
is leading the way Susan, And you know, I do know,
I mean, this is sidebar. I don't know anything about science,
(13:40):
but I do know quite a few women who after
fifty and after being married and after having children, have
fallen in love with women.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Because it's great. As the resident, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
You do seem awfully happy, which I'm very happy for you,
but don't you. But it is interesting, right that, like
at this point where maybe your postmenopausal. I don't know
if it's a hormonal thing. I don't know if these
friends of mine who've made these kinds of transitions, like
if they always felt that win they didn't know it,
(14:24):
or or then it just a light bulb went off.
But I'm just saying it is kind of a thing.
Maybe it's enough that, like it's not just one person.
I mean there, I guarantee you that some of our
audience you're laughing at me.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Not some person. There are many there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I think could be.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
You know, you trust yourself more and more and more
as you get older, you you are more fearless, you're
more self accepting, your braver, You're I mean hopefully right,
that's hopefully the trajectory we all follow as as humans
and as women, and so so maybe it's that and
and maybe there's a world in which somewhere out there,
Susan and d are together now in the multiverse in
(15:06):
an alternate Timeline's.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
First of all, I love that listeners are writing in
on Spotify or anyway. I just I just over that,
and I love that I love you, and it kind
of goes off of what I was saying earlier without
the gay bent on it. But I I really think
I mean, and I don't know that it's like underestimated,
(15:30):
because I do feel like Edie and Susan get into
some pretty fantastic uh adventures and antics over the next
number of episodes. But we probably could have leaned into
it more like I do think. I do think that
they could carry their own show.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, the dynamic is so entertaining.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's such an entertaining it's a little bit like ab fab.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I could see it being like British. Yeah, I could
see it being like that total I mean, with different
but like that I've made my pitch mark and anybody
else listening to this we have on the show. We
love it. We have to go therapy first. We have
it'll be worth it anything for a job we have.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
We have Susan and Edie our favorite frenemies in Saddle Ranch,
where Mike is in fact there with Kendra and Susan
is immediately ten minutes into being there, she's like, I
should leave.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'm embarrassed. I can't believe it. You talked me into this.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
We also over here, which obviously Susan does not yet
that Mike is with Kendra. They know each other because
he is looking for Kendra's sister, who was the last
seen at Saddle Ram.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
And Kendra is the daughter of the man that we've
met in prior episodes that clearly is a part Floyd.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Mike too, yes to dig up why neighborhood?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Why is he really on Mysteria Lane? And then Mike
spots Susan and I Love. They have a moment where,
you know, he calls her out on being there, and
she tries to say she's just casually there, but he's
already found Edie and he's onto them. But while this
conversation is happening, and I need to know because a
(17:10):
part of me feels like this was.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Nicolette and this was not a stunt.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Double Edi is in the background of the scene riding
this bull in the craziest, most sexual no hands. She
is riding the bull and I rode horses in the
same barn as Nicolette in Hidden Hills, and so I
know she's a great equestrian and great rider, and I thought,
(17:38):
I bet she's doing her own stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
She absolutely did that I mean again, I'm not sure
I remember it, but from looking at it, it looks
it's her. She is a great horseman, ship horsemen rider. Okay, yeah,
and so I'm and I'm and she loves that. I mean,
it's like in her bones. So I'm sure that that
was her.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
She was great at it.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
But I count I'm just going to go back to,
like even I'm going I go back to the real
Estate scene that Edie with Paul. She is portraying Edie
with such power and it stands out because it is
it is a a cog in the wheel of these
(18:22):
women that no one else has. You know, It's it's
not the way bri is playing it. It's not the
way Lynette is playing it. It's not the way Gabby
or Susan. It's a called for finishing kind of quintuplet quin.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Of of like like like she's needed, she's needed.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
She has such agency to.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Tell the story of the archetypes of women. And it
is why I will say I, you know, I don't
really get credited, but in the early days I was
super championing her as the fifth housewife, and it really
did go back and forth, like on the posters, initially
it was the four of us, and like Mark Cherry
(19:05):
would sometimes be very much like, nope, it's four housewives.
It's definitely four housewives, only four housewives. And I think
that probably was hurtful, you know, like because but so
it is. It was like this flexing thing, and I
just felt like, this is an example of a scene
where she comes she just screams off the screen.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Oh my god, she's so just standing in her power
in every and not just because her thighs are so powerful.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Clearly they go the musody.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
They are okay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So, but have either of you ridden a bull one
of those types of bulls?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I haven't, And I have this weird sometimes I get
this incredibly strange overconfidence where I believe I will be
really good at something I've never done before and I'm not.
And I feel like bull riding falls into the category
of one of those things that I just in my body.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm like, yeah, it'd be great at that, And I am.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Sure if I ever even for one moment sat on
a mechanical ball, I would go lying across the room
and there's no way I would be good at it.
But I'm personally over confident about.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Thinking why you haven't done it, I think because you're like,
you know what, let me live with that fantas head
that that is.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I have also never done.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I have never been a bowl, but I have now
been a time for ranch a lot over over the area,
and now I can't. Yes, I have, and I think
I've canout this food that yes, okay, So this week, yeah,
so this week I took up the task of bringing
in that white element.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Okay, great, thanks thanks TV mom.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, I I took up the torch of of bringing
in an item inspired by this week's episode, and I
decided to make buffalo cauliflower in the style of buffalo wings,
which I feel like would have been served at a
place like Saddle Ranch, or is served in a place
like certainly is now, yes, certainly something I would have ordered.
And and so this is just, uh, you know, a
(20:57):
vegan or vegetarian or gluten free kind of spin on
chicken wings buffalo wings. This particular recipe is neither none
of those things.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Because it does have.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
It's cauliflower, but it does have breadcrumbs, so there goes
the gluten free thing, and there's some butter in there,
so it does you know whatever but that's really good.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, is it good? Okay, I'm excited.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
I also made a Greek yogurt style ranch dipping sauce
to go with it, as ranch would be.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
It's it's really spicy. But I love this.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay, Yeah, I cannot morning. I'm just I'm still living
in saddle Ranch. Where Eadie gets.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Off of the bowl and then Susan says she commits
to the bit with Mike. She goes, no, I am here,
I'm here to ride the ball and she hops in
and she is so cute. She's oh, she's a tieing
up her little shirt and she gets over and she's
the wings are hot over her head. And I love
(21:56):
this kind of physical comedy. This is oh my humor
and slapstick. I would write into a script. She the
roser hat across the room and it blinds the guy
who's operating the mechanical bull who leans back, who presses
the lever before she's on it, and the bull bucks
are right in the face. Right, mom, talk about filming
this scene that has now been turned into a gift.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Well, first of all, I love that you love that
kind of comedy. Do you think that you got some
of that sense of humor from me.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Oh, I completely.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I think between your actual physicalized comedy and choreography. I mean,
you know, we talk about the scene in the yard
with the running across, between that and my dad's dark,
dark slapstick humor. In terms of like dark jokes between
the two of you, I mean, I was just bound
(22:46):
to write only jokes where people though out of trees
and get hit by cars and get run aver and
I think it's hilarious. I am totally the person that
will watch the video of someone falling down the stairs
and I can't help the.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Last Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Now, I'm glad that we both pepper jew with that
personality and equal equal dimension. I don't remember if I
actually wrote the bill or not. I mean, that's the
big question I have. Obviously I know, but I'm just
wondering in between scenes. You're there, You're you know, you're
you know. It feels to me like Terry Hatcher would
(23:22):
have said, Hey, can I get on it and write
it and see if it's hard my assumption that you did.
Doesn't it feel you definitely wrote that I did, And
so we would have to ask somebody involved if I
did not because I can't. I can't commit to that
I have that memory. I just feel like I wouldn't
have been there and not done it anyway.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, that was in another amazing moment. As I'm chowing
down on.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's really good, spy, but it is. It is great.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
We have Lynette at the same time that all this
happening is throwing her dinner party that she's finally agreed
to throw. She's made the cannapas she's serving dessert. It
seems like it's.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Gone really well.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Tom finally makes his big pitch, which is to put
the advertising for his advertising brand on the side of
the shopping shopping carts, and then Lynette can't help but
pipe up from across the room. Or you could put
it on dry cleaning bags, and of course this is
the idea they all love. But I noted down this
(24:29):
feels so meta because Desperate Housewives used this tactic to
market the first season of the show, putting the images
on the dry cleaning bags.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Which I think we talked about in maybe in the
first pilot or sh We all agreed that that was
so brilliant yet marketing, and so do Tom's colleagues agree
that Lynnette's idea is so brilliant.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yes, so we have so anyway, we have Lynette having
her canna pay moment that then unfortunately Tom feels like
she's stepped on his toes even though she's just trying
to do what she does well in a really honest way, and.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
He almost calls her out, like he almost that something's
going on.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
And then she has this line which I did take
a note of because I thought it was interesting, which
is when she's saying that she's she used to be
someone who could win at work, and she says, I
can't win where I'm at. I'm stuck in the middle.
And I think, you know, obviously, we can measure success
(25:25):
outside of the home in a different way, using a
different metric system than the way we measure success in
the home, and so it's tougher for her to find
something tangible to latch onto about how she's winning in
her personal life. And we obviously know now that she's
using this medication as a coping mechanism or a way
to give herself a boost, so she probably feels like
(25:48):
a loser, not a winner.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And yeah, well no, I think I think this is
you see this you see like people moms living their
ego and their identity through their children. You know, like
what what like what what accomplishments is are their kids having?
Or what kind of car are they driving?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Or what like?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
These are the wins, but they're not really but you.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Have nothing else to hang out and they're not really
Lynette's winds because she was used to having other type
of business wins.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I mean, it's a it's a it's a little like tangential.
But it is why I think we should consider paying
stay at home moms totally. You know that that should
be a salary position because part of getting a salary
is saying to you you have value, right, you have
something that you have to accomplish. You've accomplished it, and
we are recognizing that with your salary.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, and in our super capitalist society, you know, for
that is our super capitalist good.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
But that is what it is. And to not do
that to the woman in the home that is pretty
much making everything happen and in this case, even making
the job happen. Yeah, you know, it's you, no wonder
she feels like she has to take pills.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, exactly, And so.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Then yes, all this is going on we have Edie.
I just is having a drink now with the private
investigator has showed up at Saddle Ranch. You know, Susan's
icing her face. She kind of gets tipped off, maybe
by Kendra, that there's more to Mic than there seams.
And I just had to circling back quickly to the
private investigator shows up. Clearly he's closing in on Edie.
(27:21):
But we've gotten a line that he says to Paul
before he says five K to hurt her, ten k
to make her disappear.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I wrote again, whoa hold hold up ten k
to kill someone? Seems really low?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, but also.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Doesn't that seem I mean, look, I'm I'm missing something
because I don't remember where this is all leading, which
I'm happy about because I get to be so entertained
watching it. But it seems extreme that Paul is considering
having Edie oft.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
For having the same No no, but I see, but
but he's really I think this is where you see
his deep pain and emotion. He is in this moment
holding eighty responsible for the death of his wife, right,
and so it's revenge, it's an eye to I, it's
all thatt revenge, very biblical. You you killed my wife
(28:16):
and I'm gonna and I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
But then it has the most dramatic ending and this
Yeah again, I'm going to go back to I cannot
believe how much happened in this episode. And so now
we're all finally done. Yes, that that the Gabby's mother
in law has gathered the evidence. She's gotten a picture.
She stormed in on Gabby and John, that picture of
them in bed.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Which I just have to say so pre iPhone. She
comes in with the actual physical camera to take a
picture of them having their closure sex.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Right and and get you can see Gabby is just like,
this is it. She's not even fighting it. She's taking
her fancy Louis Vuitton bag or whatever, and she's filling
it up with the most expensive things because this is it.
There's no fighting this. I'm going to just take what
I can and I'm gonna walk away.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But John is fighting it.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
John chases after Onannita, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Trying to get the camera back, and Juanita runs into
the street where and she.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Is run over by none other than drunk Andrew Yeah, who.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Of course has been teed up for this by everything
going on with his parents and their marriage, and so he.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And he's just been turned away by his own dad
who says, you actually can't.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Live with me, right, And so he goes out, he
gets loaded, he drives the new car, the new bribed
car that he got, and boom, he he hits Wanita
in the middle of the street, and we are left
with paramedics there attending to Janita. And then this chilling
image of the first time we really see Brie and
Rex as a united front, and it's to cover up
(29:46):
this terrible accident that their son has caused. And they
stand together and close the door of that garage and
I really got.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Themselves into the house and that's where we wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh my god, it was a huge episode.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
It was such a huge episode. I don't know. I mean,
how could we have a lot of discipline to not
have just press play for.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Episode everything play. I cannot wait. I actually cannot wait
until next week. I'm chomping at the bend. I want
to hear everyone's question.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
We can't wait to be back with you next week
at episode eight. So make sure you're keeping up and
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and that's and because we're here for you, because we
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Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted, the Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch
hosted by me, Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen,
and my real life daughter Emerson Tenney.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome back to Desperately Devoted.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Our conversation about season one, episode seven, Anything you Can Do.
We are jumping back in at an incredible place in
the story seeing of redeeming themselves while Lynette in the
park trying, is strung out in the park like and
she looks awful.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Felicity is committed to and playing this character would be
so well. And it is hilarious to see the kids
running around on the jungle gym and she is giving
I kept thinking of Timothy Shalome and a beautiful boy
where he is like heroin addict. But of course it's
about kids, Ady d.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
But she is she's needing her fixed.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, she is jones ing, yes, and she shot down.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
The threat at the end. Yeah. Well, when girl scouts come,
when girl Scout Clickie comes, just don't come to my door,
you know, I know, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Like such a week week she could possibly leverage any
amount of power.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
But it leads her into scheduling a play eight with
another neighborhood boy basically to essentially try and get some
of that child's add medication.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
That's a pretty big low.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Which I have to say in this scene.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
The second the scene popped up, I screamed out loud
because the boy's mom in this guest star character is
Terry Walters, who is my dad's sister in law. Oh
my gosh, I know what I obviously. I mean, I've
known her for many many years in my life and
love her. And this was in two thousand and four.
(01:54):
I was like, what a small world overlap. I never
knew that she was an actress, or I knew she
was an actress, but I just never knew that she
was in Desperate Housewives. And I has never come up.
And I don't even know she remembers it. It's such
a small moment. I imagine she would remember it. But I
was I was laughing out loud that this is who
(02:16):
is playing the character of the mom that Lenna steals
the pills gry wool.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
That wild, wild, small world.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Okay, So I had a moment that I thought was
really like stop. You talk about being like stopped by
a surprise. I was stopped because I thought this might
I don't know if this is going to be relevant
to you guys, But okay, So when Rex and Bury
are in this dinner scene and they're telling the kids
(02:46):
that they're getting divorced, and you know, sort of talking
about what that might be like, and the Sun says,
can I live with dad?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So quickly?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
And I mean you just see the world fall out
from underneath Breeth like it. It just wasn't ever a
consideration that she somehow wasn't a good enough mother or
to be able to hold her son's affection, and so
(03:25):
that not only is her marriage falling away, but her
children are falling away too. It's really I mean really
I had to stop the TV there too because it
was and I'm really grateful. I don't I don't have
that experience with you. I think, you know, we're really close,
and but I think a lot of people do. Yeah.
I think I think a lot of people have. I mean,
(03:48):
I have a pretty distant relationship, even though I spend
a lot of my life taking care of my parents.
Do I think emotionally there is a lot of distance there.
You know. It's not that there's not a it's not
a loving support system. It's a it's a well, not
reciprocally reciprocally any I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I mean, And I think that's the interesting thing also
about the idea of divorce when kids are teenagers or
starting you know, older in middle school and high school,
that you don't really consider when parents get divorced, Like
the age that I was when you got divorced.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know, I was five and a half.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Of course, you know you both you and my dad
were great parents, and there was never a question about
I was going to spend time with both of you,
equal time with both of you. But when your kids
are autonomous ish teenagers, they have their own perceptions about
who they think is to blame or who, and you know,
they're obviously I think.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And there's a child in their schools or maybe certain programs,
or certainly for a young boy who's getting into his
going to strip clubs, he's getting into his sexual kind
of awakening. Maybe he wants to be around more masculinity
and wants to be around his dad, all super legit things.
But I just know I do have some friends that
(05:03):
are still having their kids go off to college for
the first time. Oh and even though it's not in
a sad way the way this this particular family a
Breon Rex dynamic is. But it's still it's a it's
a loss, it's a it's a it's a grief. It's
an empty nesting thing. Yeah, and I don't know. So
this scene really got me.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, and it is hard.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
It's hard to see how how as Emerson mentioned that
line is at the kind of at the beginning of
the scene. And you can imagine knowing Breeze character by
now that she's given this conversation a lot of thought
and consideration of how she's going to handle it, how
it's going to go, what's the best way of presenting
this news to them, and then she is sidelined so
quickly with that level of hurt of heart pain, direct
(05:50):
heart pain. And then it kind of builds because she
asks Danielle shout out to Joy, who I'm very close
with still and absolutely adore.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
But but she yeah, she's.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
So great and and you know, then she says to Danielle,
do you feel that way? And Danielle says, I don't
really care as long as I have my own bathroom.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And it's it's like a doubling up of we.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Not only don't you know, are not choosing you, but
we don't even you know, in this case, Danielle doesn't
even care. And oh gosh, yeah, my heart really hurt
for Brion that scene as well.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I just yeah, and it made me wonder about I mean,
especially about her daughter, because we've seen all of Bree's
conflict with her son and obvious maybe reasons why he
would not want to be living with her, but the
level of kind of apathy that her daughter seems to
have about where she's going to be living made me
just think a lot about how what are the ways
(06:45):
that we guard ourselves against painful scenarios? You know, it
seems like her daughter has put up such a huge
dissociative wall around even addressing the fact that there's a
lot of hurt and pain and confusion in her relationship
with her mom, to the point where instead of being
(07:06):
able to respond with any level of emotion, she goes, well,
I just want to make sure I'm own the bathroom, which.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Feels really honest, but you're right about the psychology that
comes behind it. I mean, I don't know, what do
you do? I think I'm i error in deep hurt
in putting up walls. Yeah, and I and I say
that it's I say that it's I wish I had
a different tool like I wish I was when I'm
very hurt, which I think it takes actually kind of
(07:33):
a lot to get me really hurt. But I think
once you do, I think it's I think that's my
protective thing is like a wall, and it's I don't
it's not great because it because it means that I
just can't communicate anymore. But it's just too much pain,
I think.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
I think, Yeah, it's interesting how separation seems to be
a common coping mechanism and whether that's defensiveness, whether that's
just going inside oneself or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I had an illuminating moment in.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
My life when my sister Gillian pointed out to me
that when I'm confronted with big feelings, whether that be
anger or sadness or overwhelm.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That I go to sleep. Oh wow, And she.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That seems like a positive tool.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean, it's positive for my under eyeback opposite.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, And I think it's a combination of things.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I think it allows my brain, which gets really crowded
to just shut off for a few hours, and it
also is a time passer inherently, you know. And then
it gives some space because when I wake up, I've
had built in space.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And I also think maybe the surge of.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Emotions I feel does make me exhausted, and then I
just decide to turn turn off and tune out by
going to sleep.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's so interesting. Do you have what's your Do you
think you have a pattern?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean I think I go to like I like
a like a If I'm really really frustrated about something,
I will I will scream along to Meg the Stallion's
hiss no, and then maybe like go for a run.
I like to have some sort of physical release. I'm
(09:15):
also really big on I think I maybe if I
shut down, I just sit on top of the feelings
that I'm feeling. But I also don't believe in being reactive.
Like I recognize I can be hurt and that's not
always the best time to respond immediately to the person
that's hurt you. So I am a big proponent of
(09:38):
when I'm really upset about something, write a letter, which
actually Meg the Stallion says at the end of Hiss
but that's not where I got the idea from.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I writing a letter. I write, don't you the person?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I write a letter to the person, and sometimes it
can go on for pages, and I use every every
explicit word, like every way. Would never actually talk to someone,
but all of the feelings that I'm feeling, get them
out onto paper, set it aside, do nothing about.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It for the day, and then the next day, after
you've slept, you know, maybe reapproach it.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
What part of these emotions do I actually need to
communicate to get something out of this exchange? Which of
these emotions are just reactive? And it's good that they're
in the letter and I got them out, but I'm
certainly not going to share them. Or is there actually
nothing that I'm gonna get from confronting this person? That's
great because sometimes there isn't. Sometimes as much as you
(10:43):
maybe want to make someone know that they were wrong
or they hurt you, there's not actually an objective to
be gained.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wise. Emerson.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
We've been building to the iconic scene that is now
a gift? Is it gift for Jiff?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think it is Giff.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's it's Giff. We're getting we're getting feedback from the room.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Is the peanut butter gift? Is the imaging?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yes? Okay, well, okay, so things culminate at Saddle Ranch,
and I think it's hilarious that it's at Saddle Ranch
and it's called Saddle Ranch, which is because Westeria Lane
exists in a place that is nowhere, you know, it
is like in America until they're calling out an iconic
(11:42):
place in West Hollywood in Los Angeles by its own
actual name.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Okay, so let's set this up.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Let's set this up.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
So we have we know that we've got Kendra, the
mysterious new hot chick who's checking up with Mike. We
have the first date that didn't happen with Susan.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And he makes mince meat out of susan humiliation.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Then Edie tips Susan off that Mike is headed to
Saddle Ranch with this mysterious Kendra.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And she kind of and invites Susan.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
They go together, which is leading me to a comment
we've gotten from a listener. Okay, it was on Spotify.
They didn't even write directly in Camilla I believe is
her name. Hi, Camilla, I loved your Spotify comment, and
now I will talk about it. I'm gonna paraphrase it.
(12:34):
But she said that she is rewatching the show for
the upteenth time, and she always thought that Susan and
Edie had romantic tension and would make a really good
romantic storyline. And then another woman responded to the comment
totally agree.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh wow, I just thought.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I mean, I know, this is obviously not where the
show goes, and maybe Hunting Wives picked up all the
missed lesbian opportunities from But I kind of love the
alternate universe we could live in where Susan and Edie
could go from rivals to lovers.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I love a rivals to lovers narrative.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
And everybody's been begging for a reboot. I haven't heard
a better suggestion than mad in twenty years. So yeah,
you know, are you out there? Oh my god, Lives
is leading the way Susan, And you know, I do know,
I mean, this is sidebar. I don't know anything about science,
(13:40):
but I do know quite a few women who after
fifty and after being married and after having children, have
fallen in love with women.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Because it's great. As the resident, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
You do seem awfully happy, which I'm very happy for you,
but don't you. But it is interesting, right that, like
at this point where maybe your postmenopausal. I don't know
if it's a hormonal thing. I don't know if these
friends of mine who've made these kinds of transitions, like
if they always felt that win they didn't know it,
(14:24):
or or then it just a light bulb went off.
But I'm just saying it is kind of a thing.
Maybe it's enough that, like it's not just one person.
I mean there, I guarantee you that some of our
audience you're laughing at me.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Not some person. There are many there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I think could be.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
You know, you trust yourself more and more and more
as you get older, you you are more fearless, you're
more self accepting, your braver, You're I mean hopefully right,
that's hopefully the trajectory we all follow as as humans
and as women, and so so maybe it's that and
and maybe there's a world in which somewhere out there,
Susan and d are together now in the multiverse in
(15:06):
an alternate Timeline's.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
First of all, I love that listeners are writing in
on Spotify or anyway. I just I just over that,
and I love that I love you, and it kind
of goes off of what I was saying earlier without
the gay bent on it. But I I really think
I mean, and I don't know that it's like underestimated,
(15:30):
because I do feel like Edie and Susan get into
some pretty fantastic uh adventures and antics over the next
number of episodes. But we probably could have leaned into
it more like I do think. I do think that
they could carry their own show.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, the dynamic is so entertaining.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's such an entertaining it's a little bit like ab fab.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I could see it being like British. Yeah, I could
see it being like that total I mean, with different
but like that I've made my pitch mark and anybody
else listening to this we have on the show. We
love it. We have to go therapy first. We have
it'll be worth it anything for a job we have.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
We have Susan and Edie our favorite frenemies in Saddle Ranch,
where Mike is in fact there with Kendra and Susan
is immediately ten minutes into being there, she's like, I
should leave.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'm embarrassed. I can't believe it. You talked me into this.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
We also over here, which obviously Susan does not yet
that Mike is with Kendra. They know each other because
he is looking for Kendra's sister, who was the last
seen at Saddle Ram.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
And Kendra is the daughter of the man that we've
met in prior episodes that clearly is a part Floyd.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Mike too, yes to dig up why neighborhood?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Why is he really on Mysteria Lane? And then Mike
spots Susan and I Love. They have a moment where,
you know, he calls her out on being there, and
she tries to say she's just casually there, but he's
already found Edie and he's onto them. But while this
conversation is happening, and I need to know because a
(17:10):
part of me feels like this was.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Nicolette and this was not a stunt.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Double Edi is in the background of the scene riding
this bull in the craziest, most sexual no hands. She
is riding the bull and I rode horses in the
same barn as Nicolette in Hidden Hills, and so I
know she's a great equestrian and great rider, and I thought,
(17:38):
I bet she's doing her own stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
She absolutely did that I mean again, I'm not sure
I remember it, but from looking at it, it looks
it's her. She is a great horseman, ship horsemen rider. Okay, yeah,
and so I'm and I'm and she loves that. I mean,
it's like in her bones. So I'm sure that that
was her.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
She was great at it.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
But I count I'm just going to go back to,
like even I'm going I go back to the real
Estate scene that Edie with Paul. She is portraying Edie
with such power and it stands out because it is
it is a a cog in the wheel of these
(18:22):
women that no one else has. You know, It's it's
not the way bri is playing it. It's not the
way Lynette is playing it. It's not the way Gabby
or Susan. It's a called for finishing kind of quintuplet quin.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Of of like like like she's needed, she's needed.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
She has such agency to.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Tell the story of the archetypes of women. And it
is why I will say I, you know, I don't
really get credited, but in the early days I was
super championing her as the fifth housewife, and it really
did go back and forth, like on the posters, initially
it was the four of us, and like Mark Cherry
(19:05):
would sometimes be very much like, nope, it's four housewives.
It's definitely four housewives, only four housewives. And I think
that probably was hurtful, you know, like because but so
it is. It was like this flexing thing, and I
just felt like, this is an example of a scene
where she comes she just screams off the screen.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Oh my god, she's so just standing in her power
in every and not just because her thighs are so powerful.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Clearly they go the musody.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
They are okay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So, but have either of you ridden a bull one
of those types of bulls?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I haven't, And I have this weird sometimes I get
this incredibly strange overconfidence where I believe I will be
really good at something I've never done before and I'm not.
And I feel like bull riding falls into the category
of one of those things that I just in my body.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I'm like, yeah, it'd be great at that, And I am.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Sure if I ever even for one moment sat on
a mechanical ball, I would go lying across the room
and there's no way I would be good at it.
But I'm personally over confident about.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Thinking why you haven't done it, I think because you're like,
you know what, let me live with that fantas head
that that is.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I have also never done.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I have never been a bowl, but I have now
been a time for ranch a lot over over the area,
and now I can't. Yes, I have, and I think
I've canout this food that yes, okay, So this week, yeah,
so this week I took up the task of bringing
in that white element.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Okay, great, thanks thanks TV mom.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, I I took up the torch of of bringing
in an item inspired by this week's episode, and I
decided to make buffalo cauliflower in the style of buffalo wings,
which I feel like would have been served at a
place like Saddle Ranch, or is served in a place
like certainly is now, yes, certainly something I would have ordered.
And and so this is just, uh, you know, a
(20:57):
vegan or vegetarian or gluten free kind of spin on
chicken wings buffalo wings. This particular recipe is neither none
of those things.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Because it does have.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
It's cauliflower, but it does have breadcrumbs, so there goes
the gluten free thing, and there's some butter in there,
so it does you know whatever but that's really good.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, is it good? Okay, I'm excited.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
I also made a Greek yogurt style ranch dipping sauce
to go with it, as ranch would be.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
It's it's really spicy. But I love this.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay, Yeah, I cannot morning. I'm just I'm still living
in saddle Ranch. Where Eadie gets.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Off of the bowl and then Susan says she commits
to the bit with Mike. She goes, no, I am here,
I'm here to ride the ball and she hops in
and she is so cute. She's oh, she's a tieing
up her little shirt and she gets over and she's
the wings are hot over her head. And I love
(21:56):
this kind of physical comedy. This is oh my humor
and slapstick. I would write into a script. She the
roser hat across the room and it blinds the guy
who's operating the mechanical bull who leans back, who presses
the lever before she's on it, and the bull bucks
are right in the face. Right, mom, talk about filming
this scene that has now been turned into a gift.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Well, first of all, I love that you love that
kind of comedy. Do you think that you got some
of that sense of humor from me.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Oh, I completely.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I think between your actual physicalized comedy and choreography. I mean,
you know, we talk about the scene in the yard
with the running across, between that and my dad's dark,
dark slapstick humor. In terms of like dark jokes between
the two of you, I mean, I was just bound
(22:46):
to write only jokes where people though out of trees
and get hit by cars and get run aver and
I think it's hilarious. I am totally the person that
will watch the video of someone falling down the stairs
and I can't help the.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Last Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Now, I'm glad that we both pepper jew with that
personality and equal equal dimension. I don't remember if I
actually wrote the bill or not. I mean, that's the
big question I have. Obviously I know, but I'm just
wondering in between scenes. You're there, You're you know, you're
you know. It feels to me like Terry Hatcher would
(23:22):
have said, Hey, can I get on it and write
it and see if it's hard my assumption that you did.
Doesn't it feel you definitely wrote that I did, And
so we would have to ask somebody involved if I
did not because I can't. I can't commit to that
I have that memory. I just feel like I wouldn't
have been there and not done it anyway.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Well, that was in another amazing moment. As I'm chowing
down on.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's really good, spy, but it is. It is great.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
We have Lynette at the same time that all this
happening is throwing her dinner party that she's finally agreed
to throw. She's made the cannapas she's serving dessert. It
seems like it's.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Gone really well.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Tom finally makes his big pitch, which is to put
the advertising for his advertising brand on the side of
the shopping shopping carts, and then Lynette can't help but
pipe up from across the room. Or you could put
it on dry cleaning bags, and of course this is
the idea they all love. But I noted down this
(24:29):
feels so meta because Desperate Housewives used this tactic to
market the first season of the show, putting the images
on the dry cleaning bags.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Which I think we talked about in maybe in the
first pilot or sh We all agreed that that was
so brilliant yet marketing, and so do Tom's colleagues agree
that Lynnette's idea is so brilliant.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yes, so we have so anyway, we have Lynette having
her canna pay moment that then unfortunately Tom feels like
she's stepped on his toes even though she's just trying
to do what she does well in a really honest way, and.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
He almost calls her out, like he almost that something's
going on.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
And then she has this line which I did take
a note of because I thought it was interesting, which
is when she's saying that she's she used to be
someone who could win at work, and she says, I
can't win where I'm at. I'm stuck in the middle.
And I think, you know, obviously, we can measure success
(25:25):
outside of the home in a different way, using a
different metric system than the way we measure success in
the home, and so it's tougher for her to find
something tangible to latch onto about how she's winning in
her personal life. And we obviously know now that she's
using this medication as a coping mechanism or a way
to give herself a boost, so she probably feels like
(25:48):
a loser, not a winner.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And yeah, well no, I think I think this is
you see this you see like people moms living their
ego and their identity through their children. You know, like
what what like what what accomplishments is are their kids having?
Or what kind of car are they driving?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Or what like?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
These are the wins, but they're not really but you.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Have nothing else to hang out and they're not really
Lynette's winds because she was used to having other type
of business wins.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I mean, it's a it's a it's a little like tangential.
But it is why I think we should consider paying
stay at home moms totally. You know that that should
be a salary position because part of getting a salary
is saying to you you have value, right, you have
something that you have to accomplish. You've accomplished it, and
we are recognizing that with your salary.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, and in our super capitalist society, you know, for
that is our super capitalist good.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
But that is what it is. And to not do
that to the woman in the home that is pretty
much making everything happen and in this case, even making
the job happen. Yeah, you know, it's you, no wonder
she feels like she has to take pills.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, exactly, And so.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Then yes, all this is going on we have Edie.
I just is having a drink now with the private
investigator has showed up at Saddle Ranch. You know, Susan's
icing her face. She kind of gets tipped off, maybe
by Kendra, that there's more to Mic than there seams.
And I just had to circling back quickly to the
private investigator shows up. Clearly he's closing in on Edie.
(27:21):
But we've gotten a line that he says to Paul
before he says five K to hurt her, ten k
to make her disappear.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I wrote again, whoa hold hold up ten k
to kill someone? Seems really low?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, but also.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Doesn't that seem I mean, look, I'm I'm missing something
because I don't remember where this is all leading, which
I'm happy about because I get to be so entertained
watching it. But it seems extreme that Paul is considering
having Edie oft.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
For having the same No no, but I see, but
but he's really I think this is where you see
his deep pain and emotion. He is in this moment
holding eighty responsible for the death of his wife, right,
and so it's revenge, it's an eye to I, it's
all thatt revenge, very biblical. You you killed my wife
(28:16):
and I'm gonna and I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
But then it has the most dramatic ending and this
Yeah again, I'm going to go back to I cannot
believe how much happened in this episode. And so now
we're all finally done. Yes, that that the Gabby's mother
in law has gathered the evidence. She's gotten a picture.
She stormed in on Gabby and John, that picture of
them in bed.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Which I just have to say so pre iPhone. She
comes in with the actual physical camera to take a
picture of them having their closure sex.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Right and and get you can see Gabby is just like,
this is it. She's not even fighting it. She's taking
her fancy Louis Vuitton bag or whatever, and she's filling
it up with the most expensive things because this is it.
There's no fighting this. I'm going to just take what
I can and I'm gonna walk away.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But John is fighting it.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
John chases after Onannita, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Trying to get the camera back, and Juanita runs into
the street where and she.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Is run over by none other than drunk Andrew Yeah, who.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Of course has been teed up for this by everything
going on with his parents and their marriage, and so he.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And he's just been turned away by his own dad
who says, you actually can't.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Live with me, right, And so he goes out, he
gets loaded, he drives the new car, the new bribed
car that he got, and boom, he he hits Wanita
in the middle of the street, and we are left
with paramedics there attending to Janita. And then this chilling
image of the first time we really see Brie and
Rex as a united front, and it's to cover up
(29:46):
this terrible accident that their son has caused. And they
stand together and close the door of that garage and
I really got.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Themselves into the house and that's where we wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh my god, it was a huge episode.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
It was such a huge episode. I don't know. I mean,
how could we have a lot of discipline to not
have just press play for.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Episode everything play. I cannot wait. I actually cannot wait
until next week. I'm chomping at the bend. I want
to hear everyone's question.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
We can't wait to be back with you next week
at episode eight. So make sure you're keeping up and
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