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November 3, 2025 96 mins

In this classic episode, Karen and Chris welcome comedian and podcast host, Kara Klenk to chat about dogs on Benadryl, drunk spelunking and more!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Are leaving. I you wanna way back home? Either way,
we want to be there. Doesn't matter how much baggage
you claim and give us time and a terminol engage aid.
We want to send you off in style. We wanna

(00:24):
welcome you back home.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Tell us all about it.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
We scared her? Was it fine? Now? Porn?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Do you need to ride?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Do you need to ride?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Do you need to ride?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Do you need to ride?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Ride?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Do you need with Karen and Chris welcome to Do
you need to ride? This is Chris Fairbanks and this
is Karen Tilgaraff.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
We are driving through Karen's neighborhood, just on the heels
of the fourth of July, the most traumatic time oh
for pets.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Tough in Los Angeles. Cats, NonStop, dogs, all explosions.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
They all it's negative reviews. I you said your dogs,
don't seem to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Frank was a stray dog for the majority of his life.
Sadly so, he has a real lazy fair attitude about
almost everything. He's seen a lot, He's been through a lot.
Fireworks are no big deal to him. And then Blossom
is a big copycatter, so she just does what he does,
so luckily I don't have to drug either of them,

(02:05):
like I used to have to drug George, who was
a hound and so nervous and would be truly having
a nervous breakdown. Yeah, I think that.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'm the hound dog of people because or I act
like I am being reminded of the Big War, right,
And I I never really liked forest even as a kid.
I didn't want to light off fireworks. I just don't
know what's missing in me. Explosions don't do it for me.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well, you might be sound sensitive. I think we've talked
about this before. My niece my nieces sound sensitive, so
like when there's a big, crazy noise, it freaks her
out really bad, and then she gets really embarrassed, where
it's like, no, that's just because I think she's got
real sensitive yours.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, So it's the same category these explosions as hearing
someone smack, hearing someone's kiss, hearing someone scratch a chalkboard.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Or like I was watching TikTok and a guy I
was saying something very deep and almost like a therapeutic
type of advice, and then he bit into something I
wasn't looking straight at the phone, and I was so
livid Immediately, I was just like, never again.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So we will once again apologize for the episode where
we ate a dozen donuts.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, a dozen donuts. And also there was one time
where I just freely ate a rice crispy treat, one
of the louder things you could possibly eat.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Right, Well, you never know what edible gifts are.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Gifts are going to bring us.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
True, we don't want to be rude to one person,
so we're rude to all of you.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
We don't, yeah, exactly, we want to make the people
who are actually showing up for us suffer in stereo.
And I actually wasn't even a gift. It was me
gifting myself something from Starbucks, which is like even more
on us.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's the same thing you wrapped it. I remember there
was a ribbon.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I pretended to be surprised.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I just I'm it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Though.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
This weekend I was around two dogs, one obviously from
the streets and was used to some noises, and the
other dog was a huge, muscular, some sort of a bold,
massive type dog yeah, and was trembling in a way
where I'm like, this is trauma. I'm watching trauma.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Happen.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yep, just would not stop shaking and was not mimicking
the other dog. And it was the strongest looking dog.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
That also was a rescue. But just it's you know, yeah,
it was a little sound sensitive.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was sound sensitive. Maybe it had already had bad
loud sound experiences. Like that's the thing I do when
I look at my dogs and you start to think,
what life have you led? And I can make myself
cry in about ten seconds when.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I do that, and you can only get so. I
therapeutically ate a rice crispy trees right in front of
this dog's face. Get used to it, I yelled.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
You think that sounds bad, I said, listen to me
smack arnd on a rice crispy tree against your will.
He's like, I could get used to this. It's not
so bad.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I went to Venice Beach, where I'm reminded it's utter chaos.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
People.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
The fireworks that are supposed to explode loudly in the
sky were just being laid down casually in the sand. Jordes,
people just shelling in blankets, and no one was chasing
after the culprit. It was just like, Hey, I love
this country and I'm glad that I lost a finger.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
It was so it was chaos. Yeah. Well, you know
what's funny is two days before fourth of July, I
was driving down York Boulevard in Eagle Rock, very hip
and cool area of this Los Angeles, and someone threw
an AMTI in the street and so there was kind
of a flash and then there was a gigantic boom

(05:51):
and I thought my car was exploding or something. And
then it just kind of that should is that coming from?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
They shouldn't be that siren? Yeah, I have to announce
what sounds we're hearing. Your car is Chase Studio.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh that's true.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
We heard a siren through this this insulated Karen had
the car modified.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I just lightly modified. I had the fin put on
the back and then I said, throw up some acoustic
tiles in here. Yeah. Yeah, you did have this giant
spoiler put on. Oh look they're driving down the wrong
side of the road. That's my favorite.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Those firemen they must be from England.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Those are the firemen that don't give a shit.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Oh yeah, I've seen a lot of that lately. They're
being really punk rock.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
They have to it's a fire Well, I hope it
ends safe for whoever they're going to visit. But don't
let the fire. Don't let the fire department ruin my
great Madi story, which is also about danger.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I mean it's a quarter stick of dynamite, if I
recall correctly.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Is that true? Yes? And so actual media is three
three six I'm not very good math.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
A quarter is what do you mean that can't be
right because a stick of dynamite, I'm wrong, It has
to be wrong.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I think that's one sixteenth. Yeah, yeah, it's got to
be a one sixteenth stick of dynamite. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
That sounds just lengthwise alone, too stubby.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Have you lit off and made yourself I have?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean I went through a normal childhood. I just
wasn't enjoying it. When you get a little g I
Joe doll to strap it to his back and have
a long wick. Yeah, involve gasoline and you're stepping on
glass all stung by three.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Bees at Aaron Deeson's house. That all happened at one
time at Yeah, I was not.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Allowed to stay there again. I stepped on a nail,
I got stung by bees. The bees weren't the fault
of the decent family. They were a decent family, and
they were Mormons, but they did have a lot of
bees and literal bats in their bill free and and
I I was not allowed to stay there.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I came.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I had many stories and one of them was lighting
gasoline which then was supposed to.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Light the wick. No.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, and we were blowing up little army men.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's from the movie Toy Story where you're the evil
neighbor child.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Exactly exactly, And none of these little toys are going
to come with me to college.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Very sad, but the stick of dynamite quarter to one
sixteen will.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Toy story is a rip off of of movie an
electric blank What was the electric blanket movie?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
The Brave Little Toaster?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
It was called it was called The Brave Little Toaster, okay,
but it was much sadder because it was a cabin
that hadn't been inhabited for year, and they're waiting for
the family to come for their summer vacation. And the guy,
the kid had grown and gone off to college and
the family they were in a train wreck or something,
and all this electric blanket, this toaster lamp. They're like,

(09:01):
when are they coming? We have so much fun when
we're they're here and it was way sadder than twice Jesus.
And yeah, it was not a lot of famous people
except for John Lovett's one of the greats.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
One of the greats when it comes to give me.
It was his early work.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
If you check IMBB Brave Little Toaster. He was a kid,
he was little John Lovets.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh shit, look at this traffic.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
But that the animator of that approached Howard Kramer and
I about doing something where comedians sit in a bathroom,
in a toilet stall, and then the graffiti on the
walls would come to life, and it was a way
to interview people. Oh so they could tell stories. And
then a little I thought that was a good idea.
It is a good so I spent some time with
a Brave Little Toaster guy.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Wait a second, congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
It didn't go anywhere with little credit many failed projects.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Is as you interview people, like the graffiti changes behind
you or so it's almost to life.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Okay, And we got the idea of from this animate
It looks like a flip book animation, but it was.
He could do it on any surface, so a lone
guy could run for a good time, called his phone
numbers swing on one of those numbers, land on the
toilet paper roll and at the end, you know, for.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
A good time, you'd have to be flushed.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Of course, sure, because it's into toilet spot.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
But who are you interviewing in that scenario. It was
supposed to be uh comedian. Sorry, I must interrupt you
to say, we're getting into the carpool lanh. It feels
so good me Chris on the leash making it happen
in California.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Anytime you're in the carpool lane, you realize how lonely
you've been.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Because I rarely am able to use it. I yeah,
although I wonder if I can use it because the
type of car this is it's electric.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, I don't want you to abuse the system.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
What do you care?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
You'll know for your own wellbeing.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
It'll make you feel bad. You know how you are
with the system, what you love? Soon as the systems
and works as a well oiled machine. And I know
your pro government. I just think we need bigger government
with more oppressive loss on a civic level city wide. Yes,

(11:14):
I think we need to keep on doing everything that
early thirties Berlin was doing and pretend it's not happening.
The mayor should be armed.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
We have a lot of good ideas on this podcast,
and that's why you tune in, and it's why we
are on a billboard in Times Square that's still so excited.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Did you see that? Did you see some pictures of
the billboard? Oh? I did.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I even saw the quick video and Michelle Balloon stop.
I took another photo.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Michelle Balloon texted me and was like, Hi've dold you well,
but I'm so excited and sent that picture.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
And that in that picture I realized not only was
it the art I did a long long time ago, yep,
and all the imagery and the.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Color I like, but our names, yeah, and our faces
drawn by you.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
So if you haven't seen it, go to take a
flight to New York City. They're so inexpensive right in
the American Eagle outfit or building, and it's so easy
to fly these days. It's just do it because it's
for us. And then you're just looking at a thing
that you could also see on social media.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
As far as I recall, there's a helicopter pad right
on top of thirty Rock. You can land there. I
don't know where it is in New York.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I spend the money times square times square is thirty
rock there. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Oh, I don't know either.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's on my TV. Yeah, it's been so long since
I was a page. Here's what I liked about that
billboard billboard, Yes, is looking at it and remembering, like
you and I putting this podcast together alone, right, and

(12:54):
like I just think it's a little bit miraculous that
we've done it and we continue to do it. Where
you and I didn't know each other super well, right.
We were like we'd been at some parties and done
comedy shows together, but it wasn't like we knew each other, right,
and we just basically were like, let's cobble together this
thing to do and then try it. And I just

(13:16):
think it's a real testament to our friendship where we
didn't ruin it for each other and we didn't stop
being friends.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yes, yeah, which could have happened, I know, and it
didn't really sink in until I mean, of course, there
are little hints like people coming to my shows and
nice messages and all those things. I've appreciated it so far,
but that billboard, yeah, very tangible. Even though I did
wasn't actually touching it, tap palpable, even though I wasn't licking,

(13:45):
and like, she's no, it's very well paper, very I
could smell.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
It, I could see it. Let's just say I could
see it. It's a photo, for God's sake, it is
a photo, but it also is it's a symbol of
when you have a good idea and you have talented friends.
It doesn't you don't have to know where you're going
to land. Did we think we were going to land
in Times Square? No?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
No, I thought it was going to land flat on
my ass, like I do every time kidding. That's fire,
that's farciple.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's underdog comedy. It's what we like.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm just proud of us.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I am too. Yeah. I'm adding you on the back
and me simultaneously, which is hard. It is tough.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
It's like rubbing your belly and tapping your head.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You're double jointed. So you're doing it great.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, I'm doing it like Jim Carrey and that old
stand up hit.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
But also you kept on. We started doing it in
twenty fourteen. I believe, Oh yeah, I believe someone recently
told I think it was in some of the thing
for our new season where it's like we've been doing
it since twenty fourteen. We actually said it maybe in
the promo, so that alone was like, oh, that's a
really long time ago, so that's kind of hilarious. And

(14:56):
then I remember there was certain points where I would be,
like in the early days where I was so like
I was working, everything was super stressful, I was so broke,
and then I would just be like, yeah, I know,
I didn't ask anybody to do it like I when
when you and I would talk on the phone, I
would be like borderline quitting and you'd be like, I'm
gonna call Henry Phillips and then you would just take

(15:16):
care of it. And you did that a lot for
me in the early days, and I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh well, thanks. I knew it would work. I knew
we had something.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I knew it.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I was just like Andrew Ridgefield.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
And Wham first started.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Sorry, I just watched the documentary. I knew I have
myself at George Michael and I would take second banana
seat eventually and look at me now, passenger seat. I
hardly write any of our hits them suddenly along.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
For the ride, But you are Wham. And that's the thing.
There is no Wham without Andrew Ridgely. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
not gonna go off and do some solo stuff. Oh
there are you.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
There was the the one time I went to the
airport by myself and talked to myself out of necessity,
I guess right, And it was horrifying, so horrible.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, I can only do it with you.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, good, thank you well, or you're dad Andrew Ridgefield.
By the way, I think I'm saying this, I don't
know why I had a field anyway. From Chris fairbanks Field.
He was really talented, and he was like this documentary
basically it's it's not the best. I'm not promoting it.
It's a bit of a snooze fast.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh but it was.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I like Wham a lot. And I think if you
tell yourself you don't like Wham, you're lying to yourself.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Just like with Abbah, you do like it. You're there.
It's music that the people who made it are geniuses
at music. So if you don't like it, that's on you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
And the documentary was kind of showing George Michael developing
this confidence and then kind of going off on his
own as well, all of a sudden becoming good looking
and being confident and all. Well, but he wouldn't have
done it without Andrew.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't want to argue with you immediately after saying
thank you to you, but I'm going to because I
was twelve. Was I twelve? No? I was fourteen when
that video hits.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
The argument you were twelve, you have to argue on twelve.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I was fourteen when that came in. I was a
freshman in high school. And I'll never forget. I went
to my friends. I think she was just having a
slumber party, and we were down in her in the
rumpus room and she turns on MTV and here comes Wham.
None of us had seen it before. It was like
the video premiere and I don't know if you remember
the wake Me Up before you Go Go video, but

(17:44):
they're wearing shirts that say like choose Choose life and
other stuff. It was not about abortion rights, they would
never do that, but it was like it was a
It was kind of like being positive, and I think
it was.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
At a time where they're doing a lot of promoting
a lot of Both those Christmas songs were.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
For AIDS, yes research and everything. I think it was
AIDS related Chance Life, Yes, I think so too. And
I also think it was like because that whole video
is like wildly. You can't not be in a good
mood when you watch that video because everything's like white
black or neon yellow, green and orange. And George Michael,

(18:25):
I remember thinking, I can't figure out if I want
that haircut or I'm in love with him right because
he was wearing two hoop earrings, just like a girl,
and his face looked like a girl, and I think
he had pink lipstick on very subtly, but it was
but that in nineteen eighty four was groundbreaking and very rare.
So it was just like who is this? And then

(18:47):
it was like one of the best pop songs ever written?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, And that was kind of what the documentary was about.
They did not expect teenage girls everywhere to suddenly be
loving them.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Well, and let me just say this about Andrew Ridgeley Ridgefield.
That guy's hot. He was like the model where I
was always like, does he really play that guitars? He did?
They just get him in this band like an adult
boy band.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, And that's what George Michael was saying. It's like
he was supposed to be the sexual heart throb figure. Right,
everything backfired and then I got this face.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
And he points to his face. Wait did he get
plastic surgery?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
No, no, he just really all the angles came in,
you know, they were like nineteen or twenty oh when
they were Excuse me, once I start talking about him developing,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I start choking. It's like I'm salivating.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
But yeah, he just became a angled faced, handsome person.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Before they show childhood pictures of him and he looks
older and has a strange beard without a mustache. Oh,
he looked like maybe he churns butter.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Wait sorry, he had a beard as a child, yes, yes,
or they were showing pictures of his father and it
was bad editing. Oh, or could it have been that
he dressed up as a hobo for Halloween.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
And I think that beard was made of coffee. Yes, yeah, yeah,
it's honey, funny bear attack in the middle.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
It was dead. Yeah, it was very.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
It was very I didn't mean to talk so much
about WHIM, but I did. I did just watch it.
I had to relate it to us.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I could talk. I could talk about WHIM. It was
a real. Uh, what's the word is like a foundational
background music of high school for me, right.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
And uh and my older sister. It's one of the
many things she's like, here, listen to this. If you
want to be cool, don't listen to poison and Deaf
Leopard like your friends, even though that is what you
were supposed to.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Listen to to be cool.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
But much like us, they were really good friends. They
knew each other children and Andrew the whole time. Andrew
Richfield was just crowded. Richly was very just like, yeah,
if he wants to be a solo guy, he's really
good at writing songs.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I'm proud of him.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
There was no animosity, and everyone always jokes about oh
that poor guy. Either they say it was along for
the ride or he got cast aside.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, he was like did he become a race car driver? Probably?

Speaker 3 (21:25):
They also showed footage jumped from skating, and he was
really good at skateboarding. He was like in a pool grinding.
So all of a sudden, now I'm like, okay, fine,
which wham guy do I like the most?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
This guy's doing front side scratchers on a Kryptonics board.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Did you see it? Wait? Just to change the subject
off wham for one second. Yeah, we'll go back to it.
We'll be right back with talk and we'll be right back.
Did you see that little girl that did a set?
I believe it's a seven twenty.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, unbelievable, and especially the way she lands it and
her entire body compacts like she lands it on her
feet on the board, but her knees are like one
of the knees is on the board.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yes, and she almost falls and then doesn't. Yeah, but
when I tell you the way those boys ran to
congratulate her, it's like I can't. I've seen it so
many times on TikTok, I sob every time. Yeah, it's
so sweet and inclusive and like they get it. Yep.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
And it was always kind of that way. And I
always was trying to tell people when skateboarding was frowned upon,
because it simply was.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
No, one believed that that's what I was getting from
these older friends right that I was skating with. Sure
they were smoking and watching pornographic VHS tapes.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, but they're still teenage boys exactly. Smoking cigarettes are weed.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Oh I'm sure there was weed too, But that's the
kind of thing. They would make sure I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Privy too, Oh, because you were younger, Like, how old
were you are?

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Just a couple of years younger. Oh but if you're
out of high school and I'm still, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Sixteen, That was the case.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Most of my friends were a couple of years older,
got it.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
They looked out for me. My mom picked up on
that right away.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
And that's why I related so much to Jonah Hill's
movie Oh Yeah, Mid nineties is because that that was
basically she was scared that she was hang oh oh wow,
that's a beep that only means safety. That they were
you know, he got hurt and they were all sleeping
in the waiting room at the hotel. And I teared

(23:39):
up because there's.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
So many moments like that. Yeah, it was very good.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Sorry to interrupt, guys. Kara would like us to pick
her up at her house instead, but it's just a
few blocks away, great, okay from where we were going
to go. So change of plans, new destination. God, its
cars convenient perfect.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I will never not think.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Jared Goldstein's Stoke where he says any car is a tesla.
If your drive while looking at an it is the
best that's good.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's a really good stand.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
We got to have him on the pod doing a
show with him tuesday, ask him to do it. I will,
and then I'll say that's not official because I'm no
longer a booker, and it will be recorded, but I'm
no longer the recorder.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, thank god, you're not the sound man.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
No.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And you know I did that for years and the
whole time it was not a skill I possessed. That's
a hard one.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
And there was times where he's doing a wild driving.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yes, you were, Oh, but that I think that was
the last time you did it while driving. I said
to myself, don't ever let him do this right.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, it was dangerous and I probably it was one
of those episode people have admitted that there are episodes
where we're both losing our minds at lax, Yes, like yelling.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Horrible. Well, and also there were times where you would
you would be driving and you would know something was
wrong with the sound. I would be trying to talk
to the guests and you'd be like, uh, yeah, it's fine,
and it was like you could you were trying to
pretend that you could just kind of be in it
and out of it. But like, yeah, you're carrying.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
This terrible secret failing where you're halfway through and you realize, oh,
I'm not recording.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah that happened. I mean, I think it's safe to
say those were some of our best episodes. Well, I
would not say you lost them. I would say they
were lost to time. Yes, it wasn't meant to be.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, exactly. Everything happens for a reason. Everyone says that
for a reason to make themselves feel better, for a reason.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I just washed my car the other day, and I'm
so glad I did. I was this is the thing
I love to do. I went to a hair appointment,
showed up at ten am for that hair appointment. The
hair appointment, Oh hi am I we both gone here? Yeah,
I guess so. And we both show up for the
hair appointment and it was an hour later. So I

(26:15):
showed up at ten and it was at eleven and
they were like, oh, I'm so sorry whatever, and I'm like,
no problem, going to go get about five things done.
And then instead of doing that, I just went and
washed my own car at like one of those drive
up yourself, do it yourself, vacuum it out yourself.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yes, I've never planned to wash my car. It's always
when all of a sudden I see a gap in
time and I happen to be passing by a handy
j hand washed.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, and then you just kidding. But those self wash
car wash places, there's not that many anymore, right, Like
I know the two. There's one in Silver Lake, there's
one in Bourbank. And most of the time you have
to go get out of your car and then other
people do it for you.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
And I kind of prefer it because they do a
really good job.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes they do, yeah for sure, But then you have
to sit somewhere at a waiting table out and kind
of feel weird and hope it goes fast.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I always make small talk on the waiting bench.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, that's not true. Well yours that I'll say something?
Is that all?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
We'll drive things like that.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh dude stuff. I get it.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, And you usually do it with ladies. I find
the best disarming thing you could do is it's to
casual dude talk with ladies. That's the like, since I'm
a person and I think about cars, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Is that sad? But that that's really the bar where
it's like, this is great. He's treating me like a person.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I know.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I hope I'm not doing it on purpose, treating them
like a person on purpose, like a blatant Hey hey,
dode talk, Yeah, who's your favorite baseball?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Catch you and they're just staring at you. The girls
can't love baseball.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I actually I know it's since I've moved to Echo
Park a lot of lady friends that like baseball. There's
a lot of pressure to get into baseball.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, you got to know.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, in my neighborhood. If you don't, you could be
in danger.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Well, you have to support the Dodgers. Yes, that's the.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
First thing I did.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
I have to get a Dodger hat. Yes, it's getting
people are looking at me suspiciously. They have an intense relationship.
But also it's because right over the hill there's Dodger Stadium, right.
It's nice.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I like that I can walk there.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
God, that reminds me of my great, great story from COVID.
There aren't a ton, but this is a great one
that I went to go get my first COVID test
at Dodger Stadium. So that's how early in quarantine we
were in. Here's my great victory story that you already know,
which is that I took the GPS directions to get

(28:59):
to stadium, which had me going from the valley down
this fascinating stuff for basically down the five taking the
Dodger Stadium exit, coming around the back, and then I
just started following the person in front of me because
I'm like, there's no way this person isn't going where
I'm going, so I'll just go where they go.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
So I do.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I get all the way up to a police barricade
with police at it and the car in front of me.
They move the police barricade for the car in front
of me, and then I go to and then the
cop kind of leans forward and goes, which area are
you working in? And I go no, no, I'm here
to get a test. And he goes, oh, you just
cut in like the employee line. And I was like, oh,

(29:41):
I didn't mean to. This is that's what GPS told
me to do, and he goes, all right, well you
better drive right up there. I cut like a two
hour weight line with all the people in their cars
that were waiting all the way up. I just basically
cut in front of everybody, and I it was one
of the greatest things that's ever happened to me.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
And at the end the your badge. Yeah, there is
a lot of police around there. It's like a training
area they have right at the base of the Oh. Yeah,
they're you know, crawling on the ground and practicing Miranda
racial profiling. Yes, they're doing a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, they're getting good, he said, with a lot of
fear in his voice. As soon as.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
It's funny when I don't have confidence when what I'm saying,
not only do I increase the volume, I get a
little higher, Yeah, just send it up and lower, you know,
than I'm confident in what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
You're confident in just tapping off that times.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, very excited for our guests today.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Oh my god, me too. What you know, sometimes and
not very often, Actually, I should be honest. Sometimes this
when you when you look and go, oh, I have
four things to do today, and my last thing is
go record a mobile podcast. Yes, I wish I could
lay on the couch. Not not today, not with this guest.
Oh exactly, Like I'm delighted. Even some of the guests

(31:07):
that I know are going to be great. I either
get nervous or not.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
With Cara, she's uh, someone that brings me calm.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yes, yes, she's a well, she's I've always said this
to her. Is she It feels to me like she
is my cousin in that way that she is like
me and the people I grew up with so much
that there's a very bizarre familiarity to her. Oh yeah.
When I very first met her and I was just like,

(31:37):
what the fuck did you come from? And then I
saw her do stand up and I'm like, you, why
doesn't everyone know who you are from your stand up?
But that you know, that happens a lot to female comics.
If you're really good, somehow you're the one that's hosting
the show instead of headlining.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Right, happens a lot, Yeah, because people are comfortable with you.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah. But then, luckily enough, she and Lisa Trigger put
together a little podcast called That's Messed Up Law an
Order Rest You You podcast, and it's one of our
most popular podcasts on exactly Right.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
They also advertised in Times Square.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yes they were up there too. Yeah Lisa or is
it Lisa or Lisa? It's Lisa? Yeah, yeah, Lisa.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I did a show with her the other night at
the Improv and she was she kills so hard and
it's it's like me, it's it's stand up. That's pretty
much personality based out you know. They everyone loves her.
Every time I see her perform. She has the audience
and it's done with like a not a care in

(32:43):
the world.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I don't care if you like me or not. Right, No,
she's authentic. Yeah, it's she's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
And I told her, I told her right to her face.
But I'm like, you're just being yourself. You're just a
funny person and you're doing it but without even trying.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, she is that ease about her. Like I wish
there were so many things when I was doing sets
like that that I wish I knew where. It's like,
if you feel nervous, figure out something to do about it,
because when you act angry, everyone knows you're nervous. Right,
That was always my drip. I'm like, well, I'll just
be a big bitch. It's like, yeah, that's a huge

(33:17):
tell that you're you're out of your depth, lady.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, they're of all people. Barry Kats was being interviewed
on some on my phone by someone and that was
his main point. If they if an audience can smell
that you're not comfortable, and a lot of the tells
are this and this and this, Yeah, you you are
in trouble. And I was like, wow, I kind of
made a career of being uncomfortable on stage, flubbing where

(33:42):
it's something I learned to make it work eventually, But
I didn't realize being confident was a big.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Part of my job.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
No one ever told me.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
That they're good dogs.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
They are good dogs, and they're done with the trauma
America's perth.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
They're over here. Yeah, that's right. I bet they're so thrilled.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I really this year, for some reason, it hit me.
It's it's I really I don't care for fireworks.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I don't want to be a broken record, but it
just really hit me. And it's because of those stops.
I wonder if there's something you can do, Like you
could go to pump Springs on fourth of July to Yeah,
that seems like get out.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Of town, right, Yeah, I think I might, But I'm
afraid that that'll be fireworks city because it's just there's
no grass to catch on fire.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I bet there's fireworks everywhere, but you can be off
in some There must be there must be a place
somewhere that's like, we don't allow these because submarine. There's people,
there's people, there's veterans who can't be around it. It's
complete PTSD like it's not it's a serious thing. Yeah,
and it's fucked up. Yeah it is. It is.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
And my neighborhood loves fireworks. Yeah, they're just it won't stop.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Imagine if they came up with a Dodger's firework, you'd
be ruined. Yoh, okay, I at least want to see
a photo of it.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Is it the logo?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
You said it before and I did want it. You
read my mind.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Well, that was a really beautiful color. It was like
a rose gold couch. Once you flip it around and
see those cushions, you'll probably change your mind. Rose gold
with an accent color of catches. Those cushions have been
used for the pushions of cats. Oh he's pushing. We're

(35:33):
gonna have to get rid of that cat.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
I had the best, Like I think it's a chaise
lounge where it's like on one side there's a backrest
for fainting. Oh yeah, and the other side just drops
off legs asymmetrical and it was like crushed velvet, very nice,
very antique, and my cat loved to peel on. Yeah,

(35:58):
and I had to let it go.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I had to let it go.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
You fired your cat, Yeah, I had to let the
cat go.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's unfair. Yeah, you're not. Everything is late.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I pay you too much. You're going to Montana to
retire at my father's.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Here's a skate spot and.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
What do you mean right right beyond this, there's a
little embankment and I skate here sometimes. Oh yeah, I'm
very familiar. I've parked here before.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I thought you meant like a parking spot. Kara was
on her porch, so I I just pulled over unless
she was going to turn around.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Hi, Rosie, that's a cute kid.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Rosie. The last time I saw you you were this big.
This big. You are four years old. That's very old, Hie.
I'll talk to you later. We're getting right into it.

(37:07):
Hi four years old. I know. It's so insane.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
She's like, I want to come out and say hy
to your friends. I was like, okay, thanks for flip
flopping with the playground, no problem. I mean, you know,
when it moved back, I was like, guys, I can't
just sit at the playground like a loone no, you know,
a lady alone without a kid at some Some playgrounds
have signs that say you're.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Not allowed to do that. Yeah. I worked at a
day care ward that was please, no loitering.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I often skateboard across the street from That's what I've heard.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
That that's like according to you know, with with other
people I know that skate they're like, that's a legendary
skate park. And then I told my friends and they
go that flat parking lot there that has nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
In it, that's abandoned with a dumpster. I go, yeah,
that's a legendary skate park.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
On one edge there's there's a curved and yeah, and
the guys like set up benches and like pieces of wood.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
They really make it their own, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, it's DIY, but I like them and I think
it's fun. I watch them throw their boards over and
break in every weekend.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, yeah, there's fun.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
There's a criminal element that there's a.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Criminal element to my entire area.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
The kids order Postmates to my house because they're not
allowed to order it to school, so it'll just be
McDonald's on my front my front steps all the time,
and I'm like, I'm like, is this yours?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Is somebody named Antonio?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
They can they run across and they just run and
get it. Yeah, because I'm on the back on the
back side of a high school. Yes, yeah, so it's
actually kind of the best because the kids are all
really cool.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm not near the front side.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I'm not where any of them get dropped off, so
I don't get any of the hubbub of the high school,
but I get all the cool high school vibes.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
And kids ordering food to my house. I want that's
so funny.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I want a cake to get delivered to you with
a file.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
In it, so that you must be proud because now
you know that you're the cool lady that won't get
mad if they order stuff to your But I'm married
to the lame Clint Eastwood man who goes, I swear
to God and I tend to Chick fil A bag
ends up on this porch. I'm eating it, and I'm like,
they're just kids that want to eat fast food. Let
them live. Yeah, who cares? It fires up exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
He is slowly turning into clean Eastwood. Like when we
drive now he goes, look at this idiot. He narrates
everything happening in traffic, and I go, oh, that guy
that's waiting for a pedestrian across before he turns and
he goes, oh, I didn't see that. He's just so
angry all the time about nothing. I think he's, you know,
steps away from voting Republican.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
But I'll do what I can. But it's a good venting.
Don't think when you're because it's you by yourself, usually
in a car, So if you're screaming at people, it
never goes anywhere. Yeah, hopefully. And he's like a performer,
so he wants to he wants someone to hear it.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
You're right, you know if event falls in the woods
all that, Yeah, you know, does no one hears it?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Does it? Yeah? Does anyone get to feel better about themselves? Okay?
I was just telling Chris a couple days before the
fourth of July. I was driving right here, maybe a
little further down on this street. Okay, someone threw an
M eighty into the street. Oh my god, and it
was like boom and there was like a flash. It
was crazy, and it was like fourth of July kickoff,
is right? This neighborhood is so wild out of the fourth.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Like they it's like NonStop from the middle of the
day where I don't understand the point.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Of flighting off fireworks.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I can't see it two four in the morning and
my neighbor lights them off, and we watched him do
a couple this year, And when I went to take
my kids to school the next morning, my car was
covered in orange firework dust because one of his fireworks
had just shot at my car because it tipped over. Yeah,
you know, not that many people have a license to

(40:53):
do this, guy.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
You know, I was in Montana, it was legal. There's
just fireworks stands everywhere, just outside of town. There's like
a rule that you have to be near a river
or something and all. Even as a kid, I didn't
want loud boom fireworks. I just wanted that little cardboard
tank that is usually broken or it's missing a wheel,

(41:15):
but it would like you'd light it off and it
would shoot some sparklers and then a snake would coil out. Yeah,
and I'd clap and go inside.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
So I don't understand the explosions.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
No, It's like, do you know how comedy is one
of the only like quote unquote professions where you can
just do it one time and say that you're it.
Like people will just do comedy once and be like,
I'm a comedian, Like that's fireworks man.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Everyone's just like, I'm a firework person. I know how
to light them off. I know what I'm doing. But
anybody does it's usually yeah, it's actually not only do
they not know what they're doing, it's usually people that
have a weird obsession with fires. Yeah, something mentally questionable
that they want to be involved in that so directly.
Do your dogs hate it so much?

Speaker 3 (41:58):
That's what I was curious.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, we were talking about this. Luckily, my dog Frank
was found in Eagle Rock on the streets, so he
is immune. He's like, this is my culture. Yeah, He's
like yeah. And then Blossom, the new dog, just does
what he does. So there was a couple of those
big booms that she would kind of sit up on
the ground, but Frank was asleep, so she's like, oh,

(42:20):
I guess nothing bad is happening. So luckily, because my
my old dog that died two years ago was a
hound and she was like for her, I basically had
I learned. Eventually I had to give her Benadryl and
make her sleepy so that she could at least be
lightly drugged because it was so bad.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, the house e is at in Venice. We all
decided demanded the dog be drugged. Yeah, you had the sleepy.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Calm down drugs.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Don belief.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
They're called the sleepy calm down.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
No for dog doggies secually dog specific and took it
for I don't have.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Dogs, but they have kids. Alatonin and I give that
to my kids on the plane. Oh yeah, yeah, got
to get on get nice and drowsy.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
What what's the craziest or a story from your children
on a plane? Do you have nightmares? Yeah? The first time.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Well, like the best advice anyone ever gave me, if
anyone is listening that like is gonna have a kid
or has a tiny kid and having trouble, is like,
bring extra clothes and not just for your kids, for you.
You got to bring extra clothes for everyone in your family.
The very first flight we went on Oscar was never
a big bar for turbo barf just all over me flight,

(43:42):
just everywhere, and I had to change my clothes. I
had changed his clothes. My daughter has just gone to
the bathroom with me on the plane. And then gone
because she's let her peek go on to her underwear.
It's just, yeah, I don't know what is she's she's
she's like, what will happen if I pee in my
own underwear? And so then on that flight, I didn't

(44:05):
have I didn't have pants or underwear for her on me.
I mean I did in the suit in the checked suitcase.
So I just had like a Delta blanket wrapped around her.
And she's not staying still, so she's given a flash
and everyone on the plane with her little three year
old butt at the time. And but yeah, I'm flying

(44:26):
with them for the first time in August by myself. Oh,
so that will be interesting. I've flown with just my
daughter alone, but I've never flown with the two of
them alone, and it's gonna be wild.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, but you know, I just rely on those Delta blankets.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, well, I'm gonna be so, I mean, I'm gonna
start packing like seven days in advance. I'm gonna be
it's gonna be like a military exercise.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Like truly, I've already booked my ride.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I'm already like figuring out all the different ways that
I can like get because I got.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
The only hard part is checking the bags because I'm
gonna have a st and bags. It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
You guys, have you ever you guys follow me on Instagram?
Did you guys happen to see the photos of me
with the kids When I was wheeling them through. I
got these things that attached to their to their car
seats and I just wheel them like luggage, oh through
the airport. My daughter outgrew it, but it was the
best hack because I could just take them through everything.
They felt like they were getting a ride. Yeah, it
was amazing stroller. They're facing people, They're going, what's up?

(45:26):
People know you have too many bags, and then they
look down and they see that it's a child, and
I'm like, out of my waysa you know, it's the best. Yes,
So yeah, you're just constantly trying to like hack the
whole travel process. But I would say, just yeah, him
barfing on me Rosie, that's like Rosie now is cool.
She'll just watch TV the whole time, which is great. Oscar,
I don't know what I'm gonna do with him. He's

(45:46):
such a little wiggleworm and he wants to go get
his hands and everything like he is I'm not a
dog owner. I haven't ever had a dog, but he
is like that puppy that will find any tiny hole
in the fence, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
And get and try to escape. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
It's like he doesn't like his life with us, because
anytime there's a small crack in a gate or a
fence or a door, it's like he's gone. Like we
were just at I take my kids to Draggon every year,
and they were in this kid's area, and then Brent
Sullivan was I was with Brent Sullivan and Elliott Glazer
and Brent turns to Elliot and goes, Cara's child is

(46:19):
running away.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
And.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Oscar had just run out to like the area these
double doors where there was it was where all the
food trucks were, so luckily that was enclosed, but could
have just been traffic. I mean he I tried me
and a librarian chased him and got him moments before
he ran into aunt full three lane traffic on Figueroa
here in Los Angeles. It was, and he was laughing

(46:46):
gleefully the entire way, pumping his arms like take me
back to heaven Ward. And he's like I'm chasing him,
screaming and it's only making him laugh harder. Somebody who's
a child psychologist, tell me what that What does all
that symbolism mean?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
That's second born. That's the freedom of being second born.
I swear to God because that's what I was like
to when I was a little where I would get
these ideas where it's like, what would be fun? What
could I do right now that would be really fun?
And it was always something like drag a pencil along
a white wall, Yeah, that's fun, grape juice poured out
of this glass at the guests at this at someone

(47:22):
else's house that I don't know, like always, and my
mom was like, I can't take you anywhere, like it
was crazy. Meanwhile, my sister was the most low key,
the most like quiet shy, like crazy. Yeah, but mine
are both cycle. I don't even get a I don't
even get a chill one. Rosie. Rosie doesn't have a

(47:42):
death wish like Oscar does.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
But she she is mischievous. She's so mischievous. But Oscar
threw my phone at the flat screen the other day.
Had to get a new flatscreen. Oh yeah, he fully damaged.
I mean, like you couldn't watch TV on it.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Anymore. It's just never ending. And you guys do when
something like that happens, do you yell? Are you like
the parents never say no? No? Oh my god? We
say no all the time.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Okay, because permissive parenting is going to be the downfall
of the society because I see it in practice every
day and it's not working. No, but I I we
we yell at him to say we go oscar No,
it doesn't matter. So now it's like what I've been
told is like, say no very sternly, and then this

(48:30):
sounds wild, but ignore him for like fifteen to thirty
seconds so that he knows, like this doesn't get you
the attention that you want. Yeah, you know, because that's
I don't know everything. I follow all the new ag
parent instagrams and they're all like, you know, you're taller,
doesn't know how to express himself, and that's why he's
throwing a cell phone at the flat screen, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
And I'm like, okay, but I can't afford his lack
of knowledge of his emotions.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yes, so you know, we got a like he used
to just stopped just throwing his plate on the floor
whenever he was done with a meal.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Food on it, food, not on it.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Just throw the whole thing on the floor like done,
and it would set me off and I would go
stomach and he would go like he doesn't loud yell
does not register to him. So I've just stopped wasting
my time. We're at the South Past farmers Market. Oh yeah, Oh,
my friend just invited me to this today and I said,
you know I can't. I'm doing a podcast.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, well that's our surprise for.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
You're taking me there too. You're gonna do cherry.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Samp vegetable based street party. The farmer's market is so funny,
just like I don't know. I bring my kids, but
they just my utter just want some the ice cream there. Yeah,
other kids are like sampling fresh vegetables, not mine. This
is a vegetarian who doesn't need any vegetables.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I get because there's all these different farm stands and
I feel bad if you get everything at once, So
I'll get let us here.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Shop around. Yeah, you got it. You can't just go
with one and we support everybody. You know what.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I want to go to a farmer's market for soon.
I want to get my knives sharpened. Was that psychotic?
I just want to pack all my knives in a
bag and bring them to somebody.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
There's always a knife.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Sharpener at those things. It seems like there's always some
guy with a little truck that he's got. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
That was such a thing for my dad to do
when I was a kid. We would go to the
Army Navy surplus.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Story.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Knew the guy's name. He had a little monkey with
him with a fish.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
And a live monkey.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, maybe it was a dog, but he had a
companion that wasn't human, and he would my dad would
bring a Swiss Army knife. Some of them are better
kitchen knives than this guy would make them dangerous sharpen everything. Yeah, yeah,
it's because I don't trust myself to my own knives.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
No, I don't really know how to do it. But honestly,
cooking with dull knives is dangerous. That is, and my
dad used to sharpen knives before he cooked all the time.
You would stand around, yeah, talk and do it. Yeah.
But I think it's just basically you have to go
one direction on the on the sharpener thing. Yeah, I
have that thing. It looks like a sword, yes, but

(51:13):
I don't know how to use it. Yeah, I should.
I'll ask my dad and then I'll tell you guys,
well there is a new Could you ask your dad
to actually explain it in a voice memo and then
send me that. Yeah, I really like that.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I would that podcast, Karen, Dad tells you how to
do stuff and you should know how to do yes,
and he'll tell you that part too.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
We got to record dad's giving advice and how to
uh directions.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I don't want to make you feel bad, but there
is an entire like hashtag world on TikTok that literally
is that. Well, is it a podcast yet?

Speaker 4 (51:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I shouldn't say no. There's like eight hundred thousands exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Probably Wait, the TikTok is people giving dads giving advice.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
It's dad's literally going so if you if your lawnmower
isn't starting, here's what you got to check. You just saying.
So it's basically stuff a house that if you had
a dad there, they would take care of it. So
they're just explaining to you how to handle shit if
you have a house or you're doing house like stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
It's so funny because at my house I do all
that stuff, Like I put together every piece of furniture.
I do all of the handiwork, and if I can't
handle it, I call a man who I know in
my phone.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I just called him today.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
There was a guy on YouTube that I follow, and
I don't follow a lot of people, but he goes
into character where he's actually acting like your dad, and
I know that sounds strange, basically all right, sweetie, I'll
see you next time. Like he's a genuine person and
he's catering to.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
The fact that they realized a lot of the people
that watch.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
His videos don't have parents, right they'd mentioned that or
they didn't ever teach them those things, and he's really
leaning into that.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
And it's like called the how how how do you
do it? Dad?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Or something that's probably not much better, and it's great.
I watch it, and I and my dad did show
me stuff, but he's not always in my living room.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
There's also a guy on that my sister showed me
on TikTok. That's your nice career, your supportive Korean dad.
And it's this guy that's like, I'm really proud of you.
Really makes me choke up when I think about it,
because it's like people need that, and they and the
stuff that he says, he just he kind of goes
by like either what's happening in the news or whatever.

(53:34):
And in this way that is so believable. It's not
like he's not, you know, trying to be an influencer.
He's like he's like, I'm trying to help people that
need this kind of support and have never gotten it. Yeah,
it's so lovely. Yeah, so nice. God, maybe the Internet
is not a full cesspool. I mean, I don't think
it is in some ways. Yeah, you know, are you

(53:55):
guys on threads.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
The day Threads came out, if you already hate it,
they like started it, and it's like a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Like I logged into it and was like, oh, okay,
I'll just like.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Log in and see what it is or whatever, because
it's so easy to just download and it connects to
your Instagram right away, and it follows all the same
people and it's like it's very easy. And then I
realized I had to confirm every single person that friend
requested me, and because everybody's doing it automatically, it was
hundreds of people that I had to auto confirm. Halfway
through the day that went away so obviously they're making fixes.

(54:28):
But someone also told me that if you quit it,
your Instagram account gets deleted too, which people are furious about.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Wait what threads, I don't know it. Oh, it's literally
Instagram's Twitter.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Like Instagram is starting a new thing to try to
like get people instead of Instagram just be like, how
it's all pictures.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
This is going to be just like Twitter, but through
your Instagram.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I thought threads would be first spelled with a Z
and you just have to show pictures of your new outfits.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
No, And it's like if you're verified on Instagram, you're
verified on threads. It's all connected. But I'm just I
think I'm just hanging on for and I'm looking for
any place that I can once in a while put
a thought that's not Twitter anymore, because I just I mean, Karen,
you're one of my favorite follows on Twitter. Do you

(55:16):
not find it so horrible in there now?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Or what?

Speaker 4 (55:19):
It is?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
The worst?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
It is like verified people are at the top, and
they're the people that are paying, and they're the and they're.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
The mostly Nazis. Yeah, and people that are like yeah,
there's all kinds of suggestions of people that all come
of people. Wait, am I going in the wrong way
to the drive through? And this is it? This is right?
Oh yeah, Jared gotten to a car accident coming out
of this. No, oh yeah, don't worry. We just handled it.
After two years, it's been finally behind us.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
The exit was on the right side. And that fireman
would have loved this. Yeah, or someone from England.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's all backwards.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah, let's all get Starbucks. Yes, this will be recorded,
so order wisely.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Can I get an ice sorry, a grande iced latte
and then also a couple others.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I'd like a grande iced coffee with a little almond milk.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
And that's gonna be it.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
That concludes the order.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah, I'm like one of those freaks that doesn't drink coffee.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I know why, because you don't like giving yourself anxiety. No,
I just honestly, I don't like the taste and I
never start.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I just never start.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I had one tiny little cup of it in Italy
one time, and I was like, what are we doing?
I guys, we made a plan, but I was like,
I don't like I really need coffee.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, but you know they have things like lemonade and stuff.
Oh sure, Oh sure, but I got a water bottle.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I got an exactly right water bottles and with my
water staying cool in this all day, I don't need
any other beverages.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Merry Christmas. Now, I'm very happy that you're actually using that,
because sometimes those are you know, everybody has their own
specific like size shape, and I really worried about it.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I love this one because it's so big because I
hate refilling over and over again.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
It doesn't fit in the cup holders. But I just
put it on the seat next to me, right, so yeah,
put the sea around it. Yeah, and I treat it
like a little baby.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
I put it between my legs because it's so wide.
It helps with my displation. I find that because it's
so large, I will never leave it anywhere.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Wait, do you have hip displasia? No, but I do
have a false hit of a fake hip. Oh that's right.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
And I'm supposed to get the other one done.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Because hip displasia it is a baby thing.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Like I've known a couple of people who've had babies
with hip displasia, and they put them in these harnesses
where their legs are just constantly spread eagles, right, And
it's so hilarious, just tiny babies with their little legs
like wide open.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
It's just a word I like to say, like corrugated,
I say displacious, and I usually miss you sounds like
I was using it correctly. I gotta I like to
widen my hips.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
You got it? Yeah, wide wide burden hits. Then I'll
never get to use trust me, it's overrated.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Speaking as some mother, Yeah, Jared got aasectomy a couple
of weeks ago, six weeks ago, Yeah, and he.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Just complained for so many days and I was like,
this is just not that big of a deal.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I had two nine pound babies. Oh they were over
nine pounds. They were both nine to three, so gees it.
And I was just like me too, I don't, I don't.
I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, Like I just was like, you know, because when
they it had like I'm sure it's not comfortable, but
it's not painful. It's just annoying, you know, right, Like
I think it's like, oh I wish this wasn't happening,
kind of.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Like you know, no, it's why I I think it's
been proven women have a higher pain taller Yeah, I
have to here siding out.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I'll be honest. When I had number one, I wanted
to quit. Halfway through. I told my doctor, I go,
we gotta stop. She goes, you can't really do that.
I could see the head and I was like, oh no.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
And then the second one, I mean they really they
really do just pop out after that first one.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
So that wasn't that hard.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
I should have offered to give you cash, just a
straw for me.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Oh did you get an extra water?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Oh that might not be our water. Oh maybe it's
not our water. This might not be ours. Nobody ordered
the water. It does look refreshing. I had. We don't
want him to be offended.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
It was probably something we said.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Oh wait, this is weird. This is not how it
should go.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
I thought you meant that hat with those cargo shorts.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
No, just the in and out are switched exactly. Oh
that's weird. But that's not how Jared got into the
car accident.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
He was pulling out here and it was like stop traffic,
and he tried to take a left and he went
into and the people coming on the other side went
It was his fault.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Has he ever been in a car accident before.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Oh, I mean he's been in like two since then,
but they weren't his fault. That one was his fault.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
My car has many dents on it, and so people
maybe think that it's me, but I've never been in
the car when they happened.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Oh really, your car just gets walloped a lot while
it's on the street. It's been.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
It's received so many walloping. Even in my garage that's
when it rained a lot. Part of the ceiling fell
on the back of mic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Your car can't catch a break.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
It can just catch some drywall. It's dented, and U
it's not my fault. I've never been in a wreck
while operating a motor vehicle. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I just wind a brag. That's a good brag. It's
ironic though, that you're not driving I am, because I
have been in I think three or four car accidents,
all my fault. And the first two or maybe all
three I was. It was college age and I just
love to drive fast and I like speed, and it

(01:01:12):
would be raining and then I would go to slam
on the brakes and just slide into the back of cars.
I did that a couple of times. Oh, I'm actually
getting I don't want to get on the one ten sot.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Well, you just maybe got that. I've always driven. My
friends made fun of me because I had the seat
all the way up and I rest my chin on
the staring wheel. Basically, I'm like a strange I drive
in fear, and so of course I've never been in
a rent well, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
See, Jared drives really like a very cautiously, and I'm
very aggressive, and he's gotten into more accidents than I have.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Because he's doing things like trying to take a left
out of that story where it's like, no, don't do that,
just don't take a left of four lights and then right, yeah,
I mean, I don't mean to be so harsh to Jerry.
I think that we should just call this episode to Jared.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Stop complaining about traffic, to stop complaining about your vasectomy,
and stop getting in car accidents and hearing about your
already keep bringing him up. Jesus, I gotta get out
of the house, for all I have are my husband
and kids.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
You need to get over to that skatepark and yeah,
you find to meet some bad pals and learn how
to allie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
The next time I'm there, I'm gonna say hello, Yeah, come.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Knock on my door.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
My kids love to like watch those guys skateboard and stuff.
They're always nice.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
And every little kid seems to be somewhat interested in
a skateboard.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Oh yeah, it's great. It feels like a tiny little
car that they can drive. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Yeah, it's just like any kid's gonna be like, wow,
there's a grown man that still plays with a toy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
It seems to be pirate of his lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
It must be very heartening. It's like, oh, it doesn't.
It's not all shit after age seventeen or whatever. That's
that's what your children are thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah, they're thinking about mortality and when they're going to
lose their ability to do the things they love.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
The first thing my first words were, when do I
have to start paying taxes?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
When's that start? Have you been doing sets lately? Great question, Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I find, much like on this podcast, that my material
is only about my children, and Jim Daffigan is allowed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
To do that, but I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
You know, Oh no, so I think you're allowed to No.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Yes, I know. I have a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I do some sets here and there where I get booked,
but I'm not out there hustling trying to put together
a new half, you know what I mean. Like I'm
kind of I write down joke ideas. I rarely sit
and try to like put things together. But I have
my show on Wednesdays. Chris comes to do it. Yes,

(01:03:56):
it's at Barbiandini Ocal Park, which that is the best.
Oh you should come, it's so great. It's just like
a natural wine bar. But they also have beer and
non alcoholic stuff. But they I say that just because
to say it's not a full bar. And the guy
that owns it is Josh Weinstein, who used to run

(01:04:17):
the Josh and Josh Show forever, and so it's so perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
He never tries to dick us over.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
He's never like, oh, you're canceled because this corporate Christmas
party is coming in this week or whatever. He gets
just like he's he gets it. He like we're like
we need heaters. He got us like the chakest heaters.
I know that sounds insane, but he got us these
heaters that are like attached to the wall and like
warm the whole area. We did the show year round

(01:04:43):
outside and yeah, we we had it last night.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
It was great packed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Everybody wanted to keep the Fourth of July Vibes going
and we did it last night.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Who did it last night?

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Well, Kate Berlant was feature, was on the lineup, but
then had to cancel truly an hour before the show
because she was sick, and so a lot of people
showed up for her, I think, but also Hannah Einbinder
was there, Jenny Zigrino, who's very very funny, Nate Fernald
I believe he is a friend of yours, and a

(01:05:16):
couple of newer guys that are so funny, Spencer to
Rubiarde who was so funny, and Cody Wilkinson. We had
a great lineup last night. Kate will be back on
the twenty six. I was like, you know, it's like
one of those things where you know, all these people
came to see one person or no, I think they
came to see Hannah too. Hannah is a huge star.
They came to see a lot of people, But a
lot of people I think came because Kate isn't in

(01:05:37):
La that much as much anymore, and you know, to
see her for free to stand up obviously fun but
you're like, when do I announce that. Do I say
it up top where people will leave? Do I say
it after I take donations? Because it's the donations. But
we actually had Andrew Dismukes come on, he's on SNL
right now, and he absolutely burned the place down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
He was so good. It was a great It was
a great, you know replacement.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
He was like the funniest person in Austin winner I
got it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
No. Three. I'm not here to brag.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I think that he was sort of scouted from winning
that contest now really yeah, I think he won out
of Austin or and then and then ended up on Snell.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
I don't know him, but he he did.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
He's so funny, like he did really really bring Yeah,
everyone in Austin speaks very highly of it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
I feel like that here. I want this question to
be answered in this car, which is when do you
make that announcement? And I would say if I was
Kara Klank in that situation, I would wait until the
second to last person.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
That's exactly when I did it, Gary girl, That's exactly
when I fucking did it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Because you knew Nate Fernald was going to kill Yeah,
you knew Hannah Einbider was going to kill you knew
there was a celebrity element you were going to be
giving them things. If you tell them up front you're
not going to get the one thing you think you want,
then they're gonna have a set idea.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Or they're gonna sit there kind of disappointed the whole time,
like you tricked me and brought me here and like,
so right before and I told Andrew I was doing it,
but I go, hey, I'm gonna tell them that Kate
isn't coming like right before you, but you can just make.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Fun of it and be like and he was like,
no problem at all. And he did that and he
was so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
But I was like, hey, guys, so I know you
all like are expecting Kate, but she is and like
nobody there wasn't like a a like you know, they're
just like, okay, you know, she's sick. It's like post
COVID too, people aren't like forcing themselves to go out
when they have a sore throat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
They're like, I just don't feel like it's responsible, so
you know, handled yeah, and they were all good. And
I said and because she had also rescheduled, I go
she'll be back in two weeks come see us blah
blah blah, or maybe it's three weeks, but you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Yeah, my instincts are always off because I would think
you'd want to announce before the show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Just yeah, that's what my husband said.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
It was like all these shows like Don't Tell show
or there was some secret headliner show that they used
to do at the Helium clubs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Yeah. People are attracted to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
The fact that they don't know who's going to be.
The element of surprise is what attract Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And it's the time I did the show at Helium
though I could hear an audible like, oh I don't
know who I'm like, Oh, this is set up to
hurt my feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It's so funny how far people will go to to
convince themselves that you are somebody more famous than you are.
Like when I went and performed for the Troops overseas,
I was like two years into comedy and these guys.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Were like, oh, I've seen you on Saturday Night Live
and I go, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
I was like, you tell your friends at home if
that helps you get through a better day here in Kuwait.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Then you tell your friends. You saw someone from essen
Ol and you can't remember her.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Name, you know, perfect but like this, But yeah, the
the show is really fun on Wednesdays, it's just very
the clientele is very young. So, you know, Jared and
I get up there and we banter for like fifteen
minutes about you know whatever, the news, our lives with
our kids, whatever, and we're always like anyone have.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Kids, And it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
It's like nobody has, you know, they like they don't
even have a niece or a nephew.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
These people like they are all very young little babies.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
They're all very cool and hip and dress cool. Yeah,
it's always a good audience though. Yeah, they're a great
audience and you have.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Right, there's always guest.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
The bar doesn't have food, but they will have like
pop up like yeah, burger pop ups or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Dot dot dot dot dot. Yeah I did the logo
you did. Yeah that's Mike Homes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Yeah, it's a little dog wearing a hamburger, a bottom
bonn as with suspenders. The lettuce and tomato are on
the dog's back.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
So I actually, right now I'm realizing it's like ready
for a human to eat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yeah, it's a yeah, but you know it was cute
enough that you can get away with it. Yeah, it's
a little dog wearing a Burger outfit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
That's precious. I also love that bar. There was some
kind of after party type of thing. And this was
so long pre COVID, but I went to that bar
and I was just I was very excited because Josh
is such a nice person and him and Josh who
did the Barluva show show Josh and Josh. Okay, that's

(01:10:36):
right show. But they were so like cool and nice
and made such a good show that people got to
do for so long that when I learned that was
his bar, I was like, oh, this is like I
just felt proud of the dumbest way of like I
this is a person that does so much for other people,
and he gets he's still doing it. No, he They're

(01:10:58):
the best.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
When they quit Josh and Joh after ten years, they
gave us the show and we started our show, called
it Better Half Comedy, me and Jared and Lubitch, and
then Lubich started fucking with us, like what I'm talking about,
Like new managers came in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
They didn't care about comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
They were like, oh, you know you didn't bring in
them many people this week, but it's like last week
we were back to the gills, Like what are you
talking about? You know what I mean, Like Josh never
cares about that kind of stuff, Like even though we
always like, you know, we have people like but you know,
they were just like, oh, we've got a party next week,
so you can't have the show, and like we just
were like, you know what, I think, let's get out
of here. And we were already moving to the East Side.

(01:11:34):
So going to Josh's place at Bandin, he was perfect.
I had my baby shower at Barbandini.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Oh yeah, my.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Baby shower for Rosie was at Barbandini because Josh gave
me like this great deal and had let me do
it there. And at that he was like, I'd love
to get this back patio set up to do a
show and everything, and he finally did it, and you
were like, and I was like waiting for it, get
me in there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Yeah, great, Well it worked out so long ago.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Made me realize I need to have a seersucker suit
that's very just a sharp Drassic guy. Even the pants
I have right now are kind of seersuckery.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
They're very summary. Yes, let me see lift up alive.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Little. I mean it's got Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
I feel like I could be in a barber shop court.
Josh and I are have like parallel lives. We are
from neighboring towns. We went to the same college. Our mother,
my mother and his father know each other through work
what We both went to the same study abroad program.
I lived in Rome. He's married to a Roman woman.

(01:12:43):
They now basically live in Rome. He just comes back
here like all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
That's cool. We just figured out that we have parallel
lives and you didn't know that, and we didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
We found we would find out that out like almost
every week, every time I would do Barlow Bitch, we
would find out another thing about ourselves that was like,
oh my god, no way. And then it's errands came
to the show and they were like the dad's like
I know your mother, Like you know, it's like so insane.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Yes, there's a guy in la that I don't know,
but he makes movies. He's written none of them I
can think of right now, but he's doing well. And
he lived near me in my dorms in Montana. So
we just kind of figured it out Missoula, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
You know, it's interesting, that's amazing. It's such a small
it is it is, it really is. You know what
they say it is small and they're wrong. We're all wrong.
It's huge. It's quite big, and it's covered in water, right,
and that water has not been investigated in any meaningful way.

(01:13:48):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Didn't you guys feel like there was just like a
collective lack of stuff to talk about after the submersible
conversation was over?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Right, I made it. I was just like, I guess
we're done. Yeah, no, I can't even believe can't talk anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Yeah, this during this podcast, I mean off color submarine
comment immediately you or my voice get high.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I just I just didn't say anything. I just
let him dangle.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I had a tweet advertised to me two days ago
that was like wondering where to go this summer the
Titanic Museum, and was like, give it a beat, Yeah,
we need to just take the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Gas off the Titanic obsession for two minutes. Sorry. I mean,
the going to the museum would be cool, but like
the idea that people wanted to go down where it
ended up is so like what's the plus there?

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
I would never, you know what, I would do stand
on dry land and watch a drone go down there
and watch it on an iPad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Right, would love that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Take me down a little like a little drone that's
not gonna implode or kill anybody. Show me what the
wreckage looks like. I guess, I guess I'm not even
that interested in that, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I just want to see footage of the fish
that are down. I want to see some glow in
the dark fish with a horn on their.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Head, you know. And I heard that the people that
were on that thing, we're not looking out windows. They
were looking at a laptop to see that wreckage. You're kidding,
I swear to God.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Really because windows.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Yes, exactly, they didn't know how to make windows.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Well, they are for the fear of what actually happened,
for the fear of oh yeah, because no, I think
no glass could probably withstand that pressure, right, Oh my lord,
So scary, so scary, it's so scary, But it's so funny.
Don't you think it mirrors how obsessed people are with
the Titanic, how obsessed we were with the submersible, Like

(01:15:46):
people are there have been a million plane that crashes.
There have been so many mass casualty events in this country.
The way we are, we are obsessed with that Titanic, right,
And I think, you know, we have to look at
Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
We have to pin that on him. You have a
real piece of this, Sir Kate Winslet. Yes, but I
think Leo really it's on him. It's like, are people
down there trying to find the heart from the old lady?
Like is that part real? They're like, am I gonna
find that sapphire to pay my rent? A beautiful locket?

(01:16:23):
But also, didn't James Cameron do a thing where he
they sent cameras and thes gone down there?

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
I think he's done like a submersible trip, not with
the same guy, but I think he has done that
with a way better submercial.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Yeah. Yeah, I think it was so much tension because
everybody people are like, oh, I hate that, or I
have clausophobia. It's like, no, one wouldn't have claustrophobia in
that situation, Like we're talking about absolute human peril, and
so the idea that then after the fact, people were like,
it's so wrong that people are making jokes. It's like, no, no,

(01:16:59):
that's what people do when ship like this goes down,
because all you can do is go, what if it
was me? Yeah, yeah, freak out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Yeah. That was the most when one time when I
was in Bend, I went sperlunking in these like way
down you crawl way down, and at one point the
crawl space, I was stuck like my hips.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
I had to like position my body because of your displaying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yeah, and so I had to open up my hip
much like mel Gibson had to and pop it out
of sokker so I could slither through. No, I just
I was stuck for a minute, and that was my
first thought is I'm going to be so embarrassed if
this is the way I go, and like people are, no,
one's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Feel bad heart in a slunking, stuck situation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
But then moments later it opened up into this room
and I could stand and you could look out of
these like way up and see these openings.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
In the ceiling of this cave.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
And was so worth worth I mean, okay, the payoff.
I felt so good. But yes, it's not something I
would do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Now when you went back through, was there a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
No, you went through, you went out a different way
that you didn't turn around and go back out because like, yeah,
no it was And yes, I was drunk middle of
the day. There was no way I could have done
that sober, and I knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
You did drunk splunky, Yes, yes, it's the way that
a lot of the guys do it drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yeah, for drunkling is the way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Did you ever see that movie that is it The
Cave of the Climb where it's the three women doing it,
but then there's things killing them as they're down. I
know what movie you're talking about, but I didn't watch it.
The Ascent, The Descent, Decent, The Decent.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
The Ascent is on the way out, that was at
the end of the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
But that's my I would not be able to stop
obsessing over there's a thing that lives down here that
no one knows exists that is absolutely going to kill
us and no one will know or care. Like that
idea that there's just a whiz a like a it
looked like it looked like a hairless cat.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Sure, okay, sure, whatever you want to do, go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yeah, he's he's got to be somewhere guys get up
to that red light. Absolutely, but that idea seems possible
to me, And therefore, how could you open yourself up
to that level of cave monster. No one's on my
side with this. No, I I completely, I never. I
just wouldn't even cross my mind, Like I don't even

(01:19:35):
go that much.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Like I mean, you're you're saying that's the worst part,
Like the worst part is that no one would.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Know, or just that the worst part would be seeing
an animal, right thing that lives in there that no
one knows is there because no one goes in there. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't need to be the first to do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
I was scared mostly of just sudden water rushing in
that was that became the biggest.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Little boys on the team.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yes, yes, that's a good documentary. When Karen first mentioned
the movie with the Descent, I thought, yeah, they all
go down there to save that soccer team. Oh wait,
I'm confusing two things.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
That was Elon Musk that saved the soccer team. No
it wasn't. I mean we should have known it that
that over promise under delivery. And then he accused the
actual hero of like being a groomer or something. Disgusting
or just like sir, step out.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Yeah, and I'm right now realizing my fear was so
real because at the end of it, they were saying, now,
look at your clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
There isn't any dirt on.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
Them because the water washes it all away when it
goes rushes through.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
I was actually sperlunking through a waterway and you didn't
realize there was zero not a saint. I was crawling
on the ground and there was no dirt on my clothes.
I've found that fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
But sorry, you didn't know there was water?

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Apology accepted. No, I didn't until the end, and then
I was like, well, wait, how do we know it
wasn't gonna come through because it's not June or something
like it seasonally rushes through that I need. I need
more hard evidence that I wasn't about to But why
didn't you know? No one told me until it was over.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
But water is a very specific sensation. It's different. Oh No,
I was not.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
There was no water when I did it. There was
little trickles and puddles here and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
There, but your clothes were clean. Yes, how I know
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
It was the biggest mystery ever. I'm still it's still mystery.
I know it's it's it sounds like I'm making it up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
So were they saying to you, like, there's enough water
happening that you don't notice it, but it's washing your clothes?

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Oh, I'm sorry. At one point water rushed through and
got rid of all that dirt. We forgot that, we
didn't get the spin cycle.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Yes, yes, the quick that you did.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Yeah, I went through. Everything was being lined dried, gotcha,
there was no water. But my fear was when they said, hey,
look at your clothes. Aren't they clean? That's because of
all the water.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
And I'm like, what what now? Yeah? Like that's when
I got scared. But it was after the fact. Okay, yes,
all right, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
It was confusing and I shouldn't have even.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Brought it up. Look, no, you just confirmed fuck off
caving lunking of any kind. I don't need it. I
don't want to. I don't want any of that. I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
It was I like roller coasters. That's about as dare
devil as I get. And did you guys hear about
how my cell phone fell out of my pocket on
a roller coaster? Recently, a pretty new cell phone fell
out of my pocket on the X two at Magic Mountain,
which is a banger of a roller coast yesterday, Like
it is really good and it turns you all around,

(01:23:01):
and I was in my pocket and I think I
just forgot to zip the pocket and it sucked out.
I didn't even notice it. We were off the ride.
We were we were several steps away from the ride
before I went, oh, oh, my phone, where's my phone?
It's and I was like yeah, So I immediately go
foul a report. I'm like bummed out, but my brother

(01:23:21):
and I try to enjoy the rest of the day
doing coasters. We're coaster heads and he's visiting from out
of town, so we do that. I mean, it literally
turned into the worst day. It started raining, We got
kicked off of like the coaster. At one point we
were stuck on a coaster for fifteen minutes or I
just let us dangle there, like it was like no, no,
but still like it was just like are we gonna

(01:23:41):
get at it? Like we just couldn't believe how much
bad luck we were having. Then pouring rain, lightning, so
they obviously shot all the rides.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
So we go home.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
I track it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
I do close up satellite. It's right under the roller coaster.
So I go, guys, here's a picture of it, zoomed
in as far as it can go. It's right under
the roller coaster. Go out there and get it. I
call for I'm calling. I finally tweeked. Somebody gets in
touch with me and goes, please write to our VIP
email address. I'm so finally I find my IF iPhone

(01:24:11):
pings six weeks later and it's in Hong Kong.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
My phone is in Hong Kong because wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Clearly the like teens that worked at Magic Mountain like
found it and were like, oh, the screen didn't crack.
This is probably a pretty decent phone, but it's bricked
because I've put it into lost mode and everything. Yeah,
so they're like, we'll resell it to wherever. And I
went on Reddit. The first thing I found on Reddit
was their phone was at the exact place my phone

(01:24:40):
was at and the phone had been stolen in London.
This is clearly a place, yeah, pipeline, a Magic Mountain,
a six Flags to Hong.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Kong pipeline, which and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
What they what they said on Reddit was that these
phones are probably getting stripped and reprogrammed to be sold
as burners in the Philippines or something.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I have no idea if any of that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
This is Reddit I'm quoting as my source here, And
so I tweet and go, hey, six Flags, why didn't
you just tell me that you were gonna sell my
phone to Hong Kong or whatever? I tweet some bitchy things,
and they I start getting phone calls now for six times,
and I'm still playing phone tag with six Flags to
this day. And I'm hoping to get Bianca on the

(01:25:20):
line very soon because I would love to get some
reimbursement for the brand new phone I had to buy.
How long ago did this happened at the very the
March thirty first, and then it pinged back on the
very beginning of May, and I was like, what the hell?
And then I ended up breaking down and just buying
a new phone because I'd been using my friend's old
ass phone and it wasn't holding a charge, and I

(01:25:43):
just I was starting to feel like my journey wasn't
gonna happen. Then once it pinged in Hong Kong, I go, okay,
it's really dead. I'm going to buy a new phone.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
And that little yeah thing that pinged it. It was
probably sitting in a pile, but I just couldn't believe it. Also,
they're so expensive, it's so much money.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
And I didn't have the insurance for the I have
the insurance for breaking it because I'm a dumb ass,
but I didn't have the insurance for losing it because
I've never really lost it before.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Ye. So you know, sad story. But I'm hoping once
I get Bianca on the line, we're going to talk
it out. Yeah, if you're a diner sore. Yeah, we
made a joke about that one time. But yeah, and
it's stuck. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Well, I just said, any I go any idea how
my phone got from an employee's only access area to
Hong Kong. Ye, Like, it's not like other writers were
down there under the coaster chilling and found my phone, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
So I would call you and say I hate to
break it to you, but many times there's a criminal
element with our carnival workers.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Yeah. Well, it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Everybody that works there is like seventeen and bored out
of their minds. Like it's really, let's know that's like
people doing that and then they're not. The park is
like it's unsafe to go down there or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Right, yeah, and then that's that. Then it's just like,
well you' it's on you, and I'm sure the average
person can get shamed into it's your fault. Yeah, not
our girl, not me, not me that X two steps
it out of my pocket. We are even if you
aren't the guest. We need to have an update on
this phone. Oh yeah, very invested, lady.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
A voice no, but I'm only trading it for the
one from Karen's dad, So I will hold my voice.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Noo to hostage until I get that one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
We just passed the playground where I was going to
have you guys pick me up before the Snake park
as we call it because there is a slide shape
like a snake.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Oh oh, not because there's like a tons of snakes.
That would be weird. Thank god, You're like, come on,
let's just go back and give snake park. The kids
love it. This is where my daughter's going to be
going to school in the fall. Hey, this is her
little elementary.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
It's not just tiny shoes, I think tiny picnic tables.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
On a regular picnic table. They need adjustments. They're little.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Yeah. In skateboard videos growing up, I thought that everyone
was way better than they are because they were doing
like kickflips over picnic tables. And then you move here
and you realize these are tiny. These are baby table.
Everyone's been lying to me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
They're for babies. Oh, babies at a picnic.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
So is there anything you'd like to promote.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
A natural segue?

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yes, my podcast that's messed up, an SVU podcast right
here on the exactly right network. Please listen if you
like sv or even if you don't a lot of
people listen to our show that don't watch Us for You,
which I find wild, but go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
I've never watched Us for You.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Yeah, but a lot of well, we explain everything that
happens in the episode, so people kind of like are like,
I don't really need to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
You're telling me what's happening. It's the best. So that's
how we do. And you guys get amazing bookings of
people who played different parts on the episode. Yeah, that's
like one of the funnest parts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
We have an episode coming up where we interviewed Matthew Lillard,
which was so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
That's a great guy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Yeah, we were so excited to get him because he's
in this wild episode with Carol Burnett, and like, we
were just not going to get Carol Burnette. You know,
she's like ninety in a legend. I just didn't think
we were going to get her. So I was like,
thank god we got Matthew Lillard and we are actually touring.
Our podcast is going on tour. We're going to be
doing like twenty cities in the fall from September to December.

(01:29:43):
So that's messed uplive dot com is where you can
find out everything about our podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Amazing. Thank you for allowing me to promote myself of course.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
And then yeah, if you live in Los Angeles, come
down to Bar Bandini on Wednesdays. I gave that a
nice little twenty minute plug. Yeah, I was smart, but
I also just want you to come, Karen.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
I want to come. And that's actually a great kind
of bridge from me always being in my house to
going back out or like going to a comedy show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Yeah, because you can come on the side and sit
with the comics and stuff and you talk to us,
and you should we should have you on when somebody
is on that you like, or a person that you
are friendly with, or maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
When it took place, you could do stand up again.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
That's an idea offered.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
I don't want it to be thought that I haven't
offered if I could get Karen kil Gariff, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Just watering the seed.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
You plan it, Karen Kilgarriff. I'm just doing jokes about
my kids and my husband all the time. That's my problem.
The last time I did is said Kara was it
was like a it was a hot tub show or something.
I fucking had to follow James Fritch, which which God
bless anyone who has to ever follow James Fritz. He
is so fucking good at stand up comedy. But also

(01:30:56):
I hadn't written a new joke in ever, so everything
I was just like a kind of didn't believe my
own thing, you know. I I was just kind of like,
and then I was like, don't do it. If this
is the way you're going to do it, right, I
get that. So that's kind of how I feel right now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I think I'll probably eventually start writing more and coming
up with more stuff, but like just coming out of
pandemic and the two kids being the age they are.
I'm just like, my brain is like stretched a capacity.
I just can't sit and write jokes right now. It's
also being a mother is a job, and you've been
doing that. Yes, yeah, it's not that you're afraid your

(01:31:34):
material will be about that. Yeah, I can only only
imagine since it's been years since I was in the
daycare business.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Wait, we're my house. I could have sworn I knew
how to get there. Yeah, yeah, you just go keep
going up a couple more.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Are you driving by my favorite picnic tables?

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
I just want to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
We want to need to get another visual of yourself kickflipping.
I think jump over that when I was young, straight ahead.
Yeah yeah yeah. Alex Cole is right around here. You know,
Alex Cole, Yes of the Bay Area. Yeah, you're bay Area.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
That's also a family name. I'm sure we're related. Coles. Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
I follow this like Highland Park Instagram, where it's like
it's written by somebody, it's clearly run by somebody who's
lived here for their whole life and like hates the
gentrifiers and stuff, and they're complaining about these things being
like these like four pillars of plastic that make people
slow down a little bit in the center of the street,
and they're like, these didn't used to be around in

(01:32:45):
the old days, not when I was grown up. And
then other people are like, yeah, but people drive like assholes,
like we got to stop them. And it's like, I
don't know, neighborhood's changing a lot, Like everyone's just so
mad about something they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
It's like, but you're so you're saying you're pro is
it your husband? No? Right here?

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Yeah, that's like saying that they want to go back
to the time where pedestrians were just getting mowed down time.
I just liked it when like auto fatalities were higher.
You know, it's better drunk driving. It all, nobody wore
their seatbelt. You didn't have to back then, you know,
you just died or you lived. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
We saw in the next door app the email came
in and I opened it and said, did anyone hear
the cops say come out with your hands up?

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Twitter?

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
That yes, I saw, and then I saw it was
Kurt and it's like, is this a bad time to
ask Tom next door?

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
It's on next door absolutely spiraling about this.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Yeah, I didn't make the joke because I thought he
actually might be totally freaking out.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
So he is like in the neighborhood and he heard
cops say, yeah he was. He was outside.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
I think they were watching fireworks and they heard cops,
I think from a helicopter say put down your weapons
and come out of the house or something, and so
he scored his kids into the house and then just
asked on Twitter and then apparently on next door, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
I did anybody hear that? Does anyone know what's going on? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
It was funny to see because usually it's just about
a stolen mic and it's like, wait, I know that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I did not make the hot time joke. That's really
funny though. Is now a bad time? Wait? You guys
oscar hosts about in five minutes? Can I just sit
here for it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
And I'm just kidding, wait, just waiting out let Jared
do it. I'm sorry, we just got talking. I could
not get back. I couldn't get back until seven.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Yeah, well, your delight. I was telling Chris and Alis
before you got in the car. And I know I've
already told you this, but I always say when I
very first met you, it was like, I already knew
you to the degree where I was like, it feels
like she's my cousin's the weirdest thing. How uh well,
I just adore you, and but I also love your

(01:35:05):
comedy so much and it's just so nice to know
a person like you. Oh you're so like always are
so nice. I don't I hardly like anybody, so it's
fun when I like that. Oh I love to hear that,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
It's like when people say I don't usually like female comics,
but you were funny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Yeah, that's what I like. I don't like most people,
but you I like. All the other girls can go
to hell. You You're good. Oh my god, I love
you guys. This is always so much fun and I
was looking forward to you all day. Oh you should
we wrap it up while we all are so muche
do the ending you've been listening? Did do you need

(01:35:44):
a ride? Yann A?

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
This has been an exactly right production.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Produced by Annalise Nelson, mixed by Edson Choy. Our talent
booker is Patrick.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Theme song by Karen Kilgarrett.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Artwork by Chris Fairbanks. Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter,
and Facebook at dinar podcast. That's d y n Ar podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
For more information, go to exactly rightmedia dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Thank you, Oh, you're welcome. You're the press out of
the button, press on the button.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Ooh sexual.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
That's really fun. All right, guys. Wow, wow, I can't
believe I got to write it at test
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