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September 1, 2025 87 mins

In this classic episode, Karen and Chris welcome comedian Vic Michaelis to chat about regional theater failures, Jeopardy geniuses and more!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you leaving? I you wanta way back home?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Either way, we want to be there, doesn't matter how
much baggage you claim and give us time and they
termino and gay. We want to send you off in style.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Do you wanna welcome you back home?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Tell us all about it? We scared? Or was it fine?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Mal porn?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need
to ride? This is Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Fairbanks and this is Karen Tilgarriff.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I had some trouble with the saying of our parts.
I had to retell it, which why even re record
if I'm gonna tell on myself.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I mean, I think this is the behind the scenes
stuff that people really This is what gets people about us.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
People love when you say a thing and then immediately
dissect it.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes. Yeah, especially on a podcast where people are just
trying to escape the bullshit of their own life. We're like, no, no, no,
we have tons of bullshit on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah. I actually, I do think dealing with other people's
bullshit is a relief from your bullshit, even if it's
very similar bullshit, because especially if.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's similar to bullshit, do you mind if I mispronounced
the words similar bullshit?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I have a tendency I rub off on people.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm catching it from you, uh, I think other people's bullshit.
The more similar it is, the better you feel. Because
you don't, you can be in total denial about how
similar it is, and then'll be like, oh, let me
help you right with this terrible problem you seem to
have alone. And it's like, well, yeah, it's everybody's problem.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
No, exactly, That's what I try and do with so
many conversations. But then you read about what you're not
supposed to do in a conversation, and that is listen
to someone's problem and then try and relate it to
one of your problems.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
You're just supposed to listen to someone's problem. I've been
trying to work on that.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's hard because also you still are in I was
just talking to somebody about this because I was saying
I read that, and I read it that they said
it's a sign of being on the spectrum. Maybe that
people on the spectrum want you to understand that they
understand what you're saying by saying, here's how it happened
to me, right, And then people who are on a

(03:09):
different sort of type of brain style, they're like, how
dare you change the subject.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Off of me? Exactly? And it's usually when you're talking
to someone that isn't a comedian. I think a lot
of the comics we know are in the spectrum hell yeah,
because that's how you, you know, go from one joke
and segue and think on your feet. It's because you
can't sit in a moment yes like a normal person.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
You truly don't want to. And then especially if that
moment's not about you, what the hell are we even
doing here?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Is my thinking exactly, because when you're doing stand up
you learn right away it has to be about you, yes,
which I always had trouble with, who am I? I'm
not gonna tell stories about me. I will steal interesting
stories from my friends and say it's me, yes, but
I'm still pretending it's me.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
One of my favorite bits in my first like ten
minutes of comedy, was a thing I saw my friend
Alicia do one time, and it was so funny when
she did it that I was like, oh, that's mine.
Now didn't discuss it with her. I was just like, oh, yeah,
that's so funny. I'll do it like I'm representing funny
ideas from this part of the state.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Right was kind of my interview as a representative of
just everyone that's been in my life. I'm going to
adopt this. And I've done it so many times on
this podcast. So many stories I've left out that it
was a friend of a friend. I just say it's
me because you know what, it will make a story
boring credit. Yeah, giving a bibliography as you tell it,

(04:43):
but just the big bibliography is one listing and it
would be easy to say, yeah, but it's not, doesn't
ad You got to get to the story that's true.
You can't cite your sources.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You can also do a thing where you act like
it's your story, let everybody experience it's that, and then afterwards, ago,
that actually happened to my friend Dan.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Right. Then that's like a fun way to end a story.
Maybe I'll start doing that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's kind of a funny way of going here's me
lying again.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I told I talked to my sister on the
phone last night and she reminded me of how many
stories because she is a listener of our podcast.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm told that they are not me.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
It was a cousin or my friend ross or And
I don't I do it so effortlessly because I gotta
trim the fat.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yes, for sure, you have to trim that credit fat.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
That makes me so grateful. My sister is not interested
in anything I do or say and doesn't listen to
any of these podcasts because she would be She would
truly call up and be like, that was an outright lie.
Because I do stuff like that. We're like, and I
don't think I do it that often, but when I
do it, it's very bewildering where I'm like, I just
kind of jug the end of that in a way

(05:54):
that's factually untrue.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, it's what we learned to do.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, if every story had all the elements of entertainment,
our jobs would be everyone would be a comedian. We
wouldn't need comedians. You need someone to edit a story
to make it good. That's called a joke. Yes, I'm
simplifying everything.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's about efficiency at the end of the day, right,
That's all we care about. It's not about us people
loving us. It's not that right. We just want people
to use their time correctly. Thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
We had Oftentimes people call me that our friends and
family in other cities, and they're like, oh, you had
a big earthquake, Like the news will blow things out
of proportion. And I've gotten eerily used to just my
house shaking. But the one the other day it felt

(06:54):
like the initial bank. It was a loud bang. I
thought a car somehow drove up to my little place
on a hill and ran into the wall. It felt
like a car hitting the wall. And I immediately got
up and looked at my eighty five pound redwood burrel
clock that my dad made, and it was leaning forward

(07:18):
and I just grabbed it. It would have totally injured me,
but so I kind of reacted in a way. And
then I went outside and I could hear I'd never
been outside for during what I knew was an earthquake,
and usually you don't feel them outside, but I could
hear slabs of cement grinding together. Really, yeah, it was

(07:41):
a big one, and I or maybe it wasn't a
big one richter scale wise.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
But it went right through downtown Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, I do believe it was a long one that
this is what somebody else told me. I think it
was Georgia. When we were talking about it on the
other podcast, My Favorite Murder. Have you ever listen that?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I of course I've heard of it.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
We were talking about this because she said, did you
feel the earthquake? And I said no, I was at
the dentist. And then we couldn't stop laughing because that
it made perfect sense to me as I said it
to her, but she was like, what the fuck are
you talking about? I was like, yep, you're right on
this one. But I just didn't feel anything. And I
don't know if it was just because the spot I
was in, you know, doesn't have those there, or what, right,

(08:29):
but I felt truly nothing it.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I think I was near that fault line, which
apparently is more dangerous than the San Andreas one.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
The Los Angeles fault line.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It is called something, and I do not remember what
it is called. It's it's got a serious let's call
it the Los Angeles fault line.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Okay, Yeah, that was my idea.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Right, Okay, but let's agree that your idea is the
best one and we're going to adopt it.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay. And then when we do adopt my ideas. I
think it's really important that you say that was the
best idea, real loud, that.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Was a really good idea. We should call the news
and tell them to change the name of whatever it
is right now perfect.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I do have the name if you'd like it. It's
just the Los Angeles one. I mean, we can't anymore.
Go ahead, twenty Hill's fault I kind of.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Like Life's Lost Angele's fault line, or twenty Hills.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Would ruin the magic.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, Twente Hills sounds pretentious.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
It also reminds me of Dorothea Puente, who is the
old lady in Sacramento who killed all of the people
in her boarding house and buried them in the backyard.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I mean, but was it her fault No, get that
was an old joke.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh, her fault line?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, got it. We can edit, we and we do. Yeah,
we will.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, we'll take that one out.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Stricken from the record.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
We have a bailiff in the backseat that takes jokes
and strikes them from the guy, so you only get
the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
And he's he's his name is Rusty. He's tired. He's
been doing it a long time. Wasn't that the guy
on the People's Court Rusty Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
In the Doug Luellen days, Doug Luellen was the interviewer. Yep,
how do you feel about losing? Not good? Yeah, that
was half the show. I loved it as a kid. Rusty. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
It was Wapner's bailiff or.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Some name maybe some name that was a little bit
nickname me country vibes, Bull?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Are you thinking of Bull? And Night Court? Let's talk
about all the TV bailiffs. Let's see who's judge duties.
That guy he's a firecracker.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, he tells it like it is. He's one of
my favorite bailiffs.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
His name's Rusty.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
He's rusty. Also, you have no choice when your name's Rusty.
You're either a bailiff or a truck driver.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yep, yeah, or the tin man.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yes. Have I watched the documentary about how the set
of The Wizard of Oz was cursed?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Why?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yes? I am.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh did you see the thing? It looks like someone
swinging from a tree in the background, and the rumor
was that someone killed themselves, but the truth of it
was it was just a bird walking through.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well it was something hanging, and they let you think
maybe it was, but it was not a munchkin actor.
The munchkins were what they were called in the TV show.
I don't believe that's a slight. It's from a TV show.
They put a bird in there to cover the shadow.

(11:39):
They superposed a beautiful bird to cover that shadow. Oh
and one of the people in the documentary is Neil Hamburger.
What's his real names, Greg, Greg Turkinton. I believe, okay,
he is like a video buff and he has a
VHS of the very rare copy where they don't have

(12:01):
the bird covering up. Oh what very much looks like
a human form hanging, and so they kind of leave
it open. But someone saying, ah, it's a sandbag that
fell off a girder, but man, it looks like a
person to me. Yeah, And so it's it's very much.
It hasn't been debunked like the you know, the cardboard

(12:22):
cutout we grew up fearing in Three Men and a Baby,
But so many things happened, and it did debunk the
the model painted gold that I've always thought died because
in the closing finger, apparently that didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
But the guy who played the tin man.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Rusty as you like to call him, he actually was
very ill and it was because they were putting silver spray.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Paint on him.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, he skin.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
He was sickly his whole life.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of that in movie another
Russian movie be where people were like laying they were
doing a lot of shoots in this toxic water like
Chernobyl water. Oh and and they all these actors had
died that were acted in this film that is apparently
Tarkowski or some filmmaker classic. It was really interesting. So

(13:20):
watch that if you're looking for more TV to watch.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
To then talk about, because there there's another one where
it was the there's a John Wayne movie that they
filmed in the desert after they did the A bomb
tests or then those nuclear tests.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh you know, there's like that footage.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Where the people's like lips are blown back and they
have the goggles on right right, and they just they
like went out there to intentionally watch the tests.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Like New Mexico maybe.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So they soon after went and filmed a western out there,
and you know, John Wayne died of cancer. The the
theory is that that a bunch of cast members from
that movie got cancer. And the theory is because of that,
because it was basically still radioactive and they didn't know.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I mean there was so much back then. The little
lifts that he put in his boots to make him six',
Five he had little, Wedges oh, yeah those could have
been made of. Lead so many. Things you know they
used to give heroin to as cough syrup to. Children,
yes baby's, teething how do you assue? It coain and mental,

(14:32):
cigarettes and that's that's like the era that you, know
our parents grew up. In so, Yeah i'm happy we
have our.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Dads it's my.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Point it's pretty. Nice, yes it's Pretty it's things have
definitely gotten, Better.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
YES i think, so except now we're all just walking
around with like a confetti bushel of microplastics in our,
skin and it's.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Making us mispronounce easy to. Pronounce, yes, yes. Certainly uh
uh DID i say patty? Wrong?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah what just?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Happen, YEAH i there's different things that we need to worry,
about but at least it's not you, know actual. CARCINOGENS
i have another creepy.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
ONE i covered this on a very early episode of
my favorite, Murder the set of The. Exorcist there's a
do you remember the part of The exorcist where the
mother Takes reagan to the hospital to get her looked,
at and they like have her in AN mri machine
and it's really scary and weird and, LIKE i don't,

(15:41):
know you might, remember maybe.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
NOT i it's.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Great this whole Time i've been thinking Of.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
POLTERGEIST i don't THINK i really ever watched The oh
you Got.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It it's so. Scary it is such a good. Movie
it's Like Rosemary's baby where you're, like oh my, GOD
i feel LIKE i want to start, screaming and it's
purely just the. Filmmaking it's not like cause a knife
is coming at you right.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
RIGHT i did just watch that and it's very.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Scary, oh it's so. Good and Apparently Mia FARROW i
just heard this On. TikTok Mia farrow cut that hair
that was Not she did that as a fuck you
To Frank, sinatra who was her husband at the. Time
that haircut was not a plan and it turned into
like the haircut of the. Era. Wow, yeah but it

(16:29):
was actually nobody wanted her to do, it and that
wasn't the. Plan but she did it, anyway like basically
just almost shaved her. Head it was such short. Hair.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Wow and then a new actress In Los angeles saw
that movie cut her.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Hair.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Bam she was the mom on The Brady Bunch, boom same.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Hair thank, You Florence, henderson But, lawrence thank. You the
scary Thing i'm going to tell you About The exorcist
is When reagan's in the hospital getting THE, mri there
is A mri like, technician AN x ray tech that's
in the room with. Her he was a serial. Killer oh.
Wow and they find out.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Afterwards oh that's so. Scary isn't that?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Insane it's just a creepy blonde guy that's standing there
and it's, like, oh that guy ends up killing a bunch.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Of oh you you would love this. Show and actually
one of the episodes does Mention rosemary's baby a bunch.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
The things that were wrong on that.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Set.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh so it's like A tv show of Creepy.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah it's it's each each episode focuses on a different.
Movie it was really good.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
And what channel did you say it was?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
On and all the music and it is made by
Ways blood a, Band oh very much LIKE i love. Her, Yeah,
yeah it's mostly. Instrumental so that's HOW i found out
Ways blood wasn't just a, person it's an entire.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
BAND i thought that was her.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
NAME i, KNOW i know me. TOO i, mean who
does him on the last name? Blood?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Ways? WHERE i was like Ways? Blood she must be
like a blue blood From.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah like The East, Coast yes of The charles Fred Fred.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Blood the band is named Ways. Blood. YEAH i have
to tell my Friend bradford. THAT i wonder if he.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Knows, yeah it's. THERE i learned so, much and that
is to never feel safe even on.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Set, no and certainly never feel safe having a casual
conversation about.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Bands oh, no someone will get very, angry.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Someone will be. Wronged but, sorry what channel is that show?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
ON i should know, That but it's one of the big.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Three, Hulu, Netflix Amazon.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Prime thank. You you can go to YOUR tv and just,
search you, know the same place you find apps and
just type and it'll tell you all at different places
you can.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Watch what's the name of the.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Show it would be. HARD i swear it. Exists cursed
on a. Set it is. Cursed cursed, MOVIES i think cursed,
films curse. Films the word cursed type in, cursed see
what happens get back to us next week and spell
a wrong and accidentally watched a bunch Of Kirsty alley
movies which we're coming up on near her old house

(19:20):
by the. Way how do you? Know, OH i golfed by.
It i've noticed they've been working on it about seven.
Years it has eight air conditioning units on. It it
has an alarm that scares away coyotes because she had
rabbits and other.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
ANIMALS i believe lamas, okay it?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Is it. Is it was pink like A pueblo style
with the clay, shingles and they've really modernized. It BUT
i don't. KNOW i haven't talked to whoever's in, charge
but they've been working on.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
It could you call them for years and?

Speaker 3 (19:57):
YEARS i do have his phone, NUMBER i just can't
remember his.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Name is it waste?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Blood every TIME i golf With VINCENT.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Cj on the eighth, hole you always see The Christy
alley house and that's WHEN cj gives he's done a
lot of research in whoever we're golfing, with he will
give them a little tour of. It oh and it's
a fun little tradition got.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
You, That so we really HAVE cj to, think this
is like what your sister was talking. About, yes It's CJ's.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Information it was me UNTIL i finally added the bibliography
of my. Story C. J. Sullivan he's your go. To
EVERYTHING i know about The Christy Alley HOUSE i learned from.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Him i'm gonna get YOUR t shirt that says. That
What why does his name sound so? Familiar is he a?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Comic he is a comic and he uh is someone
THAT i started golfing with AND i like his.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Temperament and so you're gonna adopt not shop and.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yes i'm gonna just because the way he, Acts i'm
going to adopt a freeway nice AND i, YEAH i
really have become really good friends with.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Him And, vince would you mind looking up a picture
just to show it to? Me because it sounds so
familiar That i'm, like DO i actually know this? Person
and this is the day where my brain truly starts
to crumble inside my.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Skull, oh, OKAY i, WILL i. Will did you.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Know him before he started golphing with? Him?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes and he is someone that helped me get, sober,
oh just BECAUSE i saw how it changed him as
a person for the. Better. Wow AND i don't know
that he knows, this but there's a business named after
him In, Nottingham. England C.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
J SULLIVAN'S i don't.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Know, well it's a bad.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Picture he's making a grumpy.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Face THERE'S. CJ i don't KNOW.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Cj.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah he's great friend of the friend of my,
life friend of my real, life soon to be friend
of the. Show should he.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Be on the, show of course he.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Should. Okay he does a podcast about, sports AND i
don't ever. KNOW i mean he invents often talk about
traditional stick and ball based sports AND i never can chime.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
In that's when you start going do DoD, YEAH i
start playing with blowing dandy lions and cat and trying
to chase, butterflies you, know BECAUSE i was that.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Kid that's WHAT i did in the. Outfield.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, oh look at the somebody put a picture of
someone's face on the light pole over. There can you see?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
That light poles are the milk curtains of the. Streets
BUT i feel like, That, yeah that that looks.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Promotional it looks Like.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Mark cohen kind of do you Know?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Markhonakong it does look Like Mark.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Cohen Is Mark cohen.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Who put their big face on that. Light i'm saying light.
Pole WHAT i mean is the traffic.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Light, yeah well there's lights on. It it's A i'll
tell you what isn't on that? Poll? Traffic.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Traffic it's cleared it.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Up. Yeah so, YEAH i think that was just there's
a lot of you, know people have been posting bills
and is That?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Bill that Is Bill Bill.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
COHEN i don't think That Mark cohen knows about his Son,
bill but it's time to tell. Him Mark cohen is
one of those comics THAT i got to know through
our Friend Henry, phillips and he.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Is offstage, riffing much Like Todd.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Glass. Uh you want to play, along but you can't keep,
up and you just want to see where he goes
on his.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Own, yes and SO i just giggle, Almost.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh what the fuck? THAT i guess you could run into.
That but it's a bag of jagged. MATERIALS i, mean
that's someone's garbage in the. Lane. Yeah LUCKILY i think
it was cardboard at, first but there could.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Have been baby birds inside.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
The cardboard exactly recently, hatched still alive and it boxed.
Up there are there you know you mentioned. Animals why
DO i go?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
THERE i, mean, well but it's BECAUSE i was implying,
it but then you actually put it into. Words BUT
i tricked, you, yeah into going with WHAT i was, saying.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right you know about? It BUT i, yes and it and,
then BUT i do want to go somewhere WHERE i
think of animals having a great future ahead of.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Them you would like to go somewhere conversationally that, way
or you would like to.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Actually mentally and then and then therefore conversation With, Okay
i'd like to go to a place WHERE i only
have good things to say about the future of. Animals
BUT i fear it's out of. It it's out of
caring for. Them, sure we live in a doggie dog literal.
World dogs are eating, Dogs it's What i'm. Saying clear
in the, streets now.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
What?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Streets wild shows THAT i watched that are after a war,
happens dogs take. Over But i'm sure it happens occasionally
out in the streets.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
And the dog just eats another. Dog.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, see it's it's, actually it's pretty.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Enjoyable it's not the worst. Thing, no there's definitely worse.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Because it's not based in.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Reality Because you've got to picture a really small, dog
like a chihuahua eating like a golden Lab that's. Hilarious
was it just.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
A joke THAT i Believe Paton oswald told or maybe
a video that clearly has been, Doctored but someone, witnessed
And i'm sure it's. Happened a giant bird carrying a barking,
dog like a tiny dog that was In Paris hilton's. Purse,

(26:04):
no the dog was like we burnt and the birds
rested it down on a little cedar chip.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Bed oh, yeah that's how it. Ends, okay, great See
i'm getting. Better you really.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Are making huge. Improvements, well you know what.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
HAPPENS i, mean this show is based in a place called,
reality and birds are out, there giant, eagles they're picking
up rabbits and. Stuff and then they're in the. City
there's coyotes out here. Too, yep things. Happen little dogs
get picked up by big.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
BIRDS i live in the fear of this BECAUSE i
don't think, anyone any coyote or anybody is gonna Touch
frank because he's from the streets and he. Right you
just know not to go Near frank as a animal of.
Prey but my Baby, blossom who's scared of. Everything it's
like my constant. Fear, yeah BECAUSE i have to leave
the house and leave the door open so they can

(26:57):
pee in. Stuff and then it's like, HOPE i hope
nothing kills awesome.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Today, yeah it's it's worth thinking.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
About i've been very seriously thinking about a cat That
I'VE i just have my eye on this cat that's
being fostered AND i BUT i keep worrying about things
that could go, wrong or IF i can provide the
best cat place Because Los angeles is riddled with, coyotes

(27:26):
and unlike, dogs they don't care if you're, confident no
coyotes will mad dog you in the as a human
holding a golf. Club they will come up and, go oh,
yeah what are you going to do about? It?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Sir it's my side of the.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Street it was a car in our lane coming at,
us a white, camera an eighty nine license plate six
seven TWO c THREE d one five. Seven, sorry get,
them get, them get. Them that would be a weird
way to get, Sued just.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
A weird grassroots podcast attack where people are, like, WELL
i tried to look it up. ONLINE i don't know
what you want me to.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Do, yeah just send him a nasty. Message that's the. One.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
THOUGH i get real offended when people do it coming
at me on the wrong side the, road BUT i
fucking do it all the.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Time, yeah it's something we all need to. Remember whatever
infraction or a non courtesy someone gives you out on the,
road chances are you've done. It, yes unless it's that
goddamn intersection drifting something that my phone DECIDED i want to.

(28:42):
See maybe it's BECAUSE i keep mentioning it on this.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Podcast you, mean, like first of, all really, quick there's
a sign. There Adam shift's office is right down the.
Street let's Go ADAM. B, Shift congressman twenty district district.
Office and then there's an arrow and there's narrow. There,
look there's another sign over there you can go.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
In, yeah it's telling you that it's right at fifty five.
Hundred that's. Weird, Yeah so Contact ADAM. B schiff and tell.
Him let him know White toyota camera license. Plate, yeah
what do we know About? Schiff we should know about

(29:24):
our lifeift.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Is we do know a little bit about. It he
was running for Senate State. Senate you've got to be
fucking kidding, me all of.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
You, right This i've never. Done i've actually oh and
now they're just driving into. People, okay, yeah that.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Was a bad, one that people taking, left taking a
left instead of waiting at the red.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Right i've, Actually i'm going to, SAY i don't ever do.
That i've annoyed people my whole life by stopping at a. Yellow,
yes you have, To, yeah schiff was did you say Comtroller?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Shift he's a state com. Patroller shift was running Against Katie. Porter,
UH i don't remember what. Happened that's it feels like
eight hundred years, ago and it was just like. Recently
did he?

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Win so he's going on to run against a republic In.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
November so, Okay Katie porter didn't win. That, NO i
KNOW i voted for. Her but he's good. Too you,
know it's like that was a six to one.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Situation, yeah it's you can be Almost we live in
a bit of a bubble In Los angeles where you
can be kind of hands off if you but you
can look at the specifics and, realize, no we.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Still got some weirdos.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Here, yes a word that's being thrown around a.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Walk, hey oh it's another white. Car in my.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Lane, well ACTUALLY i. Do that was before it became your.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Lane oh that's. True Now i'm just looking for to.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
See that was an example of we all do it.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Be.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Fair we're getting.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Klouse arby god damn.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
It it's. OKAY i THOUGHT i was.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
WRONG i was gonna turn that, way AND i THOUGHT
i was.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Wrong what if we did or just, nope that's not.
Nalely but we do this just to do a little. Turnaround,
yeah do this in three or four. Points i'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
IT i THINK i can get it done in three.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Points, YEAH i say you drop.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Pentagram, ugh.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
This isn't.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Ideal most, person of, course wants to be where the
minute you want to turn around in someone's, driveway is?
ANYONE i think you're? Good they just show, up thank?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
You sorry.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Urgently oh he's not happy.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
HERE i, MEAN i don't care if he's happy or.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Not filled with ice.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Cream he's got to get in.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
There the thing, is, guys it's not a very wide
street and we all have to be on.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
It, yeah, Okay god damn.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Goddamn, anyway don't worry about your pets.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Or adam shift.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Right that's.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
OVER i had your chance to worry about.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That, yeah is that? THEM i think it might be today's.
Guest i'm very. Excited you know today's guests from their
work at clubs and colleges throughout the. Country i'm starting too.
Early it's a common. Mistake everyone put your ears together

(32:39):
for every. Where, hello.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
You're in.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Line, yeah it's it's the. Immediacy this is the most.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Daunting Thing i've seen in my. Life white seats in
the back of a Beautiful. Tesla is that dosing, you
guys in any way to care? Of, no it's too,
late it's all. Out it's all it's all come out.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
ALREADY i mentioned the white seats, constantly that FAN.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I am a big, fan me, too but that it
would have been horrible to hear you were both foes.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Alone alone with. This is this your, Car? Karen it? Is, Yeah,
okay it's. Beautiful, CONGRATULATIONS i, mean thank you very.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Much karen has mixed feelings about The tesla.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Company of, COURSE i got it before The nazism really
started to shine. Through for your POST, X i believe
pre okay Still twitter.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Days you should laminate and show your title to. People
just improve with the.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
Date, YEAH i think that's a great. Idea maybe take
it to the windshield just in.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Case, yeah right side of history.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Arrow refer to this if you have any questions about
WHO i.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Am and just your phone number in case people sort
of want to chat about it quick.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Text you, want if you want any. Confirmation how are?
You And i'm doing, great happy to be. Here fun
being a passenger in a. Car i'm a perpetual.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Driver, yeah. Welcome, YEAH i think you'll or at LEAST
i noticed When i'm a, PASSENGER i am Discovering Los
angeles for the first time looking. Around, yeah it's really.
Fun you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Roofs you're constantly looking at. Roofs i'm finding out myself.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
TOO i gaze up AS i. Drive you, KNOW i
was on the street being a. Passenger it's your chance
to just check out these.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
ROOMS i love.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
THAT i love that, attitude And i'm gonna start bringing
that energy to more.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
THINGS i THINK i really love. That i'm doing. Well
i'm happy to be. Here thank you so much for having,
me of.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Course, YEAH i was very excited that we're having. You
I'VE i am a. FAN i THINK i stumbled Across
the first THING i saw was you Interviewing Jordan rubin
with the ventriloquist.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Stummy, Oh, josh, Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Josh, yeah, Yeah josh with the ventriloquist. Stummy AND i
you know that first edit like kind of described very
well what that, show very interesting. People it's called.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Very important, people very important.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Part i'm so good you're nailing it and this is
a shot in the, dark but it's called very important.
People that's.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
It take. Wonder that's What i've been.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Saying AND i think THAT i TOLD i was talking
about it and showing it to enough people that my
phone then started showing me everything you've been doing and
introduced me to Drop Out TV's.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Absolutely huge for. Me thank you so. MUCH i really appreciate.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
It so. Cool, yeah And i'm such a.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Fan you're From? Minnesota is that?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
CORRECT i, am actually and people Think montana is the Mid,
yeah they Very but what people don't, know and maybe
that's why they're thinking, this there was an in state
tuition deal people from could play in state tuition In.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Minnesota and you know WHERE i went wrong is YOUR
IMDb says you're from the, big the Big sky.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
State is that what it?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Is?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah AND i said that Is. Minnesota, YEAH i think
that's the effect right where you're just Everything's minnesota these.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Days, yeah, yeah because everything Is.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
MINNESOTA i also recently found Out minnesota is a part
of The, midwest AND i said that to somebody and
that got very upset with.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Me and it was a good faith, question If i'm being.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Honest well it, is isn't it That minnesota is where
you think of? First or? YES i grew up people
Thinking montana is The, midwest And i'm, like, hey there's
a couple Of dakotas that are substantial in size in the.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Middle.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
YEAH i Think i'm somebody THAT i really prided. MYSELF
i think it was the only THING i, had was
like being able to memorize state. Capitals and THEN I
i'm not in front of a map and some he's,
like tell me Where North dakota is AND i. COULDN'T
i couldn't describe. IT i couldn't tell you what states
are around. It it's just sort of an.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Island, yea, yeah WELL i think that knowing all the,
capitals it's just a thing that you, memorized AND i
question someone's integrity when they've done. That this is a party, trick.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Huh in very. Confrontational, yeah, No i'm being called out
AND i love. That, ACTUALLY i will.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Flip a table if someone SAYS i can draw the
shape of all the. States that's WHERE i cut it.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Off so there we actually do have common.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Grounds, yes WHEN i got fake angry about, THAT i
forgot you had just, said.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
No it's. Okay and to be, Honest i'm not very
good at.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
It i'm good at, it but there's absolutely in any
given room there's one person that's better at it than.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Me, Yeah i'm a solid number two across the, border.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Right, right there's someone that uh knows the past, Capitals,
yes up until seventy, eight, which of course they'll talk
about some you, know movement that changed.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
THINGS i learned the capitals because my sister memorized the
capitals by making a tape recording of herself on the
brand new stereo my parents had just bought, that and
it came with this microphone you plugged, in and she
stood there and made a tape and then listened to
the tape over and. Over oh my. Gosh so When
i'm trying to think of a state, CAPITAL i can

(38:29):
hear my. Sister she's, like you, Know. Alaska she was
trying to do like an announcer voice as she did.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
It did she get into, podcasting because that sounds like
maybe she also should have gotten into.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Podcasting she probably should, Have BUT i think MAYBE i was,
like give me that, mic and SO i really had
the drive to get into podcasting because it was withheld from. Me,
absolutely you didn't have an opportunity with the. Mic so you,
said the MIC's going to become my, personality, RIGHT i was,
LIKE i love. That, Yeah i'm tired of being this
outsider watching my sister get all the. Glory.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Right, actually that was the start of my, career is
recording my, sister recording me say things and playing it.
Back and that was the funnest game. Ever is that?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
True? Yes like WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Just making me act things out or sing little, songs
and then we'd listen to the recording and it was so.
Exciting it was like a fun game to play with
a much older. Sister were you.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
The funny one in the.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
FAMILY i THINK i read somewhere actually that you used
to reenact movie scenes in front of your, family AND
i related that to that very, much because, yes my
family would have me perform. Oftentimes it was. Puppets, OH
i love. THAT i thought the show would be promoted
throughout the. House i'd hide behind the dining room, table

(39:48):
AND i don't remember many of the, productions but they
were mostly puppet based and yours were full.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Movie so we got really into The, lion The witch
and the. Wardrobe the one or till The swinton was
The White, witch AND i was in love With Tilda
swinton at the, time and SO i was, Like, okay,
Great i'm The White.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Witch The White witch is the star of the.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Show she was popping up in scenes where she wasn't,
ordinarily giving looks sort.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Of, great improvising a little bit of.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Dialogue she was getting in interacting with characters maybe she
wouldn't be interacting with. Ordinarily and THEN i was also
so it was me and my siblings and my, cousins
and they were getting recast on the fly as.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
WELL i just had a real vision for what the
show was supposed to look.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Like who was in the.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Audience sometimes my, aunt sometimes.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Nobody sometimes we were just performing for the love of,
performing WHICH i actually think maybe is the thing THAT
i think performing for almost no people sets you up
to understand what you find funny the, Best yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Right and it gets you used to being on set
Because i've noticed from starting in stand up, COMEDY i
panic when no one's, laughing and that's because they're holding
a camera or doing their job or doing. Sound.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, sure and THEN i don't want to ruin the
take and blah blah.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Blah SO i, do honestly have trouble knowing If i've
done a good job BECAUSE i base it on. Laughter
and that's that's the downfall of being a. COMIC i think.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
My sister used to. Make my sister used to come
into my room and go she would say the name
she she'ld be Like Pat, benatar hit me with your
best shot two, minutes and then she would go back
and her Friend adriam would be in her in her,
room and THEN i had two minutes to make up
a routine and basically like it always involved a chair

(41:36):
and dancing around a, chair and THEN i would have
to go in do my hit me with your best
shot performance for, them do a full like dance and
usually lip, sync and then it would be over and
then she go get. Out there was no, applause there
was no any. Appreciation it would just be like get,
out AND i knew they'd come back and assign me

(41:57):
a new. One SO i was just sitting in the other,
room wait for the next. Thing is your Sister Laura.
MICHAELS i know SHE'S i think she really set in
this kind of like a hardcore training early of like
you'll get no applause and you'll keep coming back and. Performing,
yeah because this is the only stage in.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Town. Baby.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, yeah you have you auditioned For Saturday Night?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
LIVE i have.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
NOT I u one of my friends was on one
year AND i submitted a packet and she then was
not ON snl the next. Year and that's as far
as MY snl. Knowledge BECAUSE i am such an appreciator
of the. SHOW i feel LIKE i was one of
those kids where LIKE i watched all of the ones

(42:41):
from like the late seventies and into the early. Eighties
if we had those BOX dvd sets when they were
coming out sort of in the mid, ats is that
what we're calling?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
IT i, Think so there's nothing.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Else, SURE i.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Feel self conscious about, that But i'm gonna do it
during that time. Period BUT i you, KNOW i knew
pretty early on THAT i didn't think that like that
was a route for, me even THOUGH i was an
appreciator of like the, comedy and it definitely shaped a
lot of like especially like The Christian wig, era shaped
a lot of like my comedic, sensibilities like sketch has.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Never per se been like my uh my, big my
big thing right.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
RIGHT i started in an improv group AND i got
kind of traumatized by that format of, really here's for.
People we're all gonna wear a white dress shirt and
we need a suggestion LIKE i did it enough to wear,
IT i would. Panic and then WHEN i started doing stand,

(43:37):
up it gave me more control AND i was less.
Scared oh how.

Speaker 6 (43:43):
INTERESTING i do find that happens a lot with, improv
where it's people that are sort of like this would
be so much funnier IF i just wrote everything.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Down, well that's WHY i like all the shows you've
been a part of with the dropout DOT. Tv, Right, yeah.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
It's it's a really fun and interesting way to do
improv BECAUSE I i first and foreman. LIKE i spent
a lot of time by myself as a, kid and
SO i spent a lot of time WATCHING, tv AND
i especially really like comedy, stuff And i've seen like
every recorded improv special and thing that's out. There, obviously you,
Know Mister show was a huge influence on. Me i'm

(44:19):
a huge fan THAT.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I pointed to. You but we were in a car
so that was sort of a felt what it was
BECAUSE i tickled your ear a little. Bit seems like
across this, carrier right of. Course, YEAH i.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
See you guys have like that screen back here that's
playing ass in my.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Face no, spitting no.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Swearing five.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Stars you're a giant to. Dog you have to be
kept in the backseat at all. Times.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
Yeah, yeah and you guys have a fur guard here for,
me which is probably.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Fair but how WAS i saying the?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Different, like but you liked about me On Mister.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Show so, talented it's so.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Funny oh but SO i, think, like especially going into
something like this and knowing that it was going to be,
IMPROVISED i think a lot about like why you're putting
a format in a certain, medium AND i think a
lot of times WITH i am a big fan of,
theater musical. Theater this is coming back around to make a.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
POINT i.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Promise there was this thing called Like Broadway. Direct there
was like A broadway streaming, service and it makes a
huge difference when you see people pro shot stuff and
they just sort of put cameras in three places and
then put it out.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
There people that Like broadway are gonna, watch but it
really is like why are we watching it in this?

Speaker 6 (45:38):
Format it's meant to be watched, live and especially with,
improv where it's a lot about like your relationship to the, audience,
right and like that's a part of the magic is
like you know that it's created on the spot because
you're you got, it you gave a suggestion or you.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Told a story or, whatever and then you're watching it
happen in real.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
TIME i think especially with like my, show which is
like an IMPROVISED, vfx like characters.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Get INTO thefcs makeup and THEN i interviewed.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
Them part of what was interesting and cool about that
for that format was going, like, oh we had the.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Ability to edit it really, heavily SO i like take huge.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
Swings and then our director Tomorow, vine who's like absolutely.
Incredible she is not an improv person or a comedy,
person but she is like a brilliant experimental film, director
and so because of, that she sort of has this
idea of like she can take out all of the
comedy from it and go, Like, okay what is going
to make most sense for?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Story what's gonna make the most sense in?

Speaker 1 (46:30):
It?

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Edit what's like the cool things that we can do
afterwards to make this all like fit? Together like how
DO i take something from the end and reorder it
to make it like look cohesive and things like.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
That so that to me was an interesting way to
showcase and improv.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Show, yeah that like, Sense, yeah like documentary, editing like
finding the story from the footage you?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Have yeah To, OH i never thought about it that.
WAY i really like. That, yeah, YEAH i think that
that definitely feels true to.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Me, yeah that first. ONE i, KNOW i keep bringing,
it BUT i excitement of Being so the guests is
put in makeup or a. Costume they don't they have
a minute to like riff on what they might, do,
Right but the guest is improvising who they are as
you're getting to figure out who they are in an

(47:16):
interview and you have to pretend you're doing an interview
with someone who you already know about. It there's it
seems so complicated WHEN i watched it that it made me.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Nervous but then.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
That's a goal is we just really wanted to make
people feel really nervous watching it, did especially in a
time like now where people need more nervous kind of. Experience,
people it's too, Cozy that's what we kept, saying blanket.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Anxiety, yeah it's so fun to.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Watch, oh thank, you, truly that means so. MUCH i
really appreciate you taking the time to watch. It, yeah
it's something that like.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Too we made. It it was based off speaking Of Josh.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
Ruben He impact castles were the ones that it was
originally college humor, series and they were these like five
to seven minute. Videos and THEN i got an email
from THE Ceo. Samurai she was, like, hey we want
to reboot. This we don't totally know what it's going
to look, like so that are it's sort of like
a sam keeps calling it a spiritual sequel to the,
original which feels very. True it's a sort of like

(48:16):
and now it's a it's a lot. Longer we sort
of created our own.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Lord to what's.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
Happening but it's, like it's very it's it's the most
artistically satisfying.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Thing i've gotten to.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
DO i feel so grateful BECAUSE i THINK i didn't
think that there was ever an option to make any
money doing improv and to have it be like a
big part of.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
What i'm doing has just been such a. GIFT i
feel so.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Grateful, yeah And i've become a fan of everyone that
THAT i saw on that that is also on the
game show format where what is that show?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Called, oh Game? Changers are you like a game show
fan in? General do you like?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
GAMES i. Am i've been addicted to the One Pat
oswald that's. Doing that's like it's called one percent and
it has nothing to do with high tax bracket. Conservatives
it's like the last question they have only one percent
of the people pulled who and who knows where they?

(49:15):
Are how large of the group it? Is got it?
Right so it is a very hard, question but it
starts with the easy, ones and they're all LIKE iq
test type.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Question can you give.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Us an example of a, question see if we can get?

Speaker 6 (49:28):
It?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh? Right that would be UNLESS i have been, memorized
But i'm going to Pretend i'm on one of your.
Shows they're one of the, questions Was.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Angel falls? Right that's the tallest waterfall in the. World
is that? True it's On jeopardy all the? Time is angel?
Falls is that THE favoriteam? Show, Yes jeopardy for.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Sure jeopardy makes me feel dumb and maybe it's a.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Mir one doesn't make you feel about, Well.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
No because the type the questions are. Visual that's why
it's hard for me to think of an, example because
like one of the first ones will be here's here's a,
maze which route and you only have enough time to find,
out you, know they only show it to. You it's,
timed so you have to figure out a maze very.
Quickly which those kind of things or word, jumbles how

(50:23):
many different words can fit into this jumble of?

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Words things like That i'm good.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
At but if you ask me a trivia question and
it is about someone in my own, FAMILY i will
freeze just because of PAST i don't. Know test, Anxiety oh,
sure we're.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
All of a. Sudden it's like there is a definitive,
writer wrong, answer and the person that it's going to
mean something too is looking you dead in the.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Eye ye, Yes and that can be just knowing a
friend's name at a. Party, YEA i AM i will.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
That's the anxiety.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Life, yes, YEAH.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
I did find a web site with some one percent. Questions,
yes let's do some come on just a few.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Weeks this is an immigration patent paid, us all, right
so this is skipping all the way to the one?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Percent oh?

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Shit what is the first number In english, that when spelled,
out has its letters in alphabetical?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Order what the? First could you repeat the? QUESTION i
know they don't do, it but it's usually shown on a.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Chiron so what is the first?

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Number so like the spelling of that number In english,
that when spelled, out has its letters in alphabetical?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Four, no because you comes AFTER.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
R are you?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Sure? No is that? Right you're you're? Close you're actually
five in a, way you're?

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Close is? It?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
No five is definitely down. There six you're on the.
Right six you were closer with, four but not. Numerically
let me just say that twenty.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Four, wow warmery four double?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Ditches well digits eighty? Nine is this? One is this
a crazy one where it's like the eight is a?
Doctor you know WHAT i? Mean it did seventy eight
nine in this? One, oh that's actually a really great.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
QUESTION i all of the, QUESTIONS i will, say as
we continue to think about the, ANSWER i do require
you to be able to look at the sample like
it it's so hard to, imagine so.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Like they write out a thousand numbers and then you
get to What.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
I'm, oh You're i'm brushing the visualizing.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
It did you do spelling bees ever anything like?

Speaker 6 (52:40):
That, no because isn't that a thing with spelling bees
that they do where they like rate them with their
feet or they like or they like do something with
their hands and then they like wipe it away because once.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
You start, talking you can't go.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Back AND i know that because cutty Spelling, bee which
you were in that good. SHOW i was, Not but
they did it the year THAT i, graduate like the
YEAR i, graduated AND i did consider coming, back.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
AND i was politely told that it was for people
that were still.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Are, yeah like a spelling, BEE i WOULD i have
always had trouble visualizing saying it out, loud but if
you could have a pen and paper during a spelling,
BEE i would do very. Well that that's kind of
explaining my issue in a.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
NUTSHELL i really like that visual Learner.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yes, yes and that one percent. Show my point is
it's very visual learner based.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Knowledge what is can we just have the? Answer it's
forty fucking forty.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You, yeah that would take. Forever why why like?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Ending and?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Why if you were looking at the word, though you
would just GO, ABC. Abc you would do that with
each right.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Word well until you get to, forty.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Right OR i, yes that's a GOOD. Tv you're RIGHT. Tv,
YEAH i was imagining a multiple choice verse forty was
presented to. You, so, yeah that wouldn't work. EITHER i
SWEAR i was good at.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
IT i, TRY i trust. You can we do another?
Question just because that was so fucking hard and hilarious
THAT i just want one? More can we do on?
That Maybe i'm gonna be better At?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah CAN i look better in this? One let's do
a thirty?

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Three, yeah let's so it goes down from like one
hundred to, like, yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Questions are very.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Visual that's one.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Hundred that Was that was like.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
The easiest one to describe without showing it to. Anybody
so let's, see let's Do, okay this is a ten percent.
Question the first letter of the alphabet that doesn't rhyme
with another letter of the alphabet IS. F but what
is the next?

Speaker 4 (54:49):
One? G? H, YEAH i would SAY.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
L you know what's crazy is you each said one
of The i'm such an.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Asshole it's multiple.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Ch, okay so, sorry, no you named one of.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Them but mine is wrong BECAUSE i immediately came up.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
With the rhyme it was it wasn't you're so good at,
this your.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
GENIUS i, THINK i, mean thank, you BUT i think
it's just guessing mostly.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Right, well the good news is there for this one in,
particular there are only twenty five.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Possibilities, true, Right, Yeah, NO i have to think about that, Too,
like hold, ON i don't know If I'VE i have
to have the.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Alphabet in front of, me SO i actually count to.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Know are we going with The english, Alphabet.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Let's do The?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Arabic, yeah, LETTERS i would prefer it to The arabic, letters
if that's. Okay there's A i WAS i was about to,
say there's a famous story in my. Family all. LIES
i don't know Why i'm setting it up this. Way
one TIME i was at home by myself And jeopardy
was on at like four, o'clock AND i watched, it
and then at seven o'clock when everybody else got home

(56:06):
in my. Family because because my family has Watched jeopardy
every night at seven for like thirty fucking. Years OH
i love. That and so at, seven when everyone was,
there it was on AND i just started answering all the.
QUESTIONS i was probably in seventh grade or.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Something that's.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Great my mother. Was she was over the. Moon she
was so. Thrilled she was, caring you have to try it.
Whatever and FINALLY i had to tell on myself because
she was getting too no she was like too happy
about it Or i'm LIKE i already watched did you Know?

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Relationship well she was, like, Oh i'm back to being
disappointed and with. You there was a little window it
was she was it was, hilarious AND i was just, like,
well this is truly stolen.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
VALOR i CAN'T i can't really let this continue any.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Further is there even like a small part of you
that was LIKE i could Watch Jeopardy early for the
rest of my life and then come back and then
just be a genius.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
And then finally get the goddamn credit in this family
THAT i, deserve just the respect you really.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Deserve, yeah it really does get you the respect of your.
Elders jeopardy nothing like. It, Yeah, yeah there's nothing else
you can do to make your grandma love.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
You, also there is a part of Watching jeopardy because,
it's you, know going to visit my dad, Now like
it's really like whatever happens in the, day we're meeting back,
here and this is what we're going to be. Doing
AND i do guess almost like, instinctually where it is
pretty amazing when you're, like oh my, GOD i was
actually right about, That like where did that come? From

(57:37):
there's like some reservoir in my brain that's Like i'm
ready for you to Watch jeopardy and get something.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
RIGHT, Whoa, yeah that is always kind of crazy to think.
About it's like how much do you know that you
just can't? Remember that's like rattling around in there. Somewhere,
yeah BECAUSE i feel like there is stuff like that
where like moments where like that are high stress, moments
all of a, sudden something THAT i was trying to
remember really, hard like weeks before will shake. LOOSE i
feel like that happens to me a.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Lot mm.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Hmm is that a? Sickness is that it being ill
because you said you're in, Theater SO i bet you
that has to do with like you can't blank on your.
Lines you have to know all of. Them you have
to know other people's, lines like there's there's that right
where you're just like you get into a new, show
here's your new. Job get it for the old jobs

(58:23):
and the old stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
Come back to the new. Stuff, yeah that rings true to.
ME i like, that, THOUGH i will SAY i don't
Think i've ever done a production of anything WHERE i
haven't forgotten at least a chunk of.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Something what's your favorite play you've ever been in or,
Sean that's a great.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
Question i'm doing a show right now AT ucb that's
just been like the most fun thing in the entire
world Called Mama.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Mia bit different and it is literally all it is Is.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
Uh the philosophy is That Mamma mia is like THE
mcu where it has it can be, anything and you
can collect any like Eight abba songs and they can
be their own show that's completely unrelated To Mama mia.
Proper so just every month we have new writers write
These Mama mia shows and they've all been really different

(59:10):
and really.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Crazy it's so.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
Fun, yeah we did one that was like a bluegrassy
one Called Avalacha Mama, mia But Everyone's babies is the
one we're doing this, month and we Did Mama mia
The piper the first month you know That aba song The, Piper,
no neither DID, i.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
And now when we did a whole musical around.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
It but IF i heard, IT i know. It well
you might not.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Have it's a it's a deeper.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Cut oh, okay, OKAY i do only know The aba.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Hits, YEAH i would sing, It BUT i as much
AS i enjoy, SINGING i was always somebody that was
a really loud, singer AND i think for it gets
you pretty far until you hit like regional, theater and
then all of a, sudden people are, Like, okay now
tone's gonna matter a little.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Bit THIS anni production is over and you are now
in the real. World, yes, yeah well that really.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
Is it is like because as soon as you hit,
regional it's like if you're a, dancer that will get
you through to the next round of, things because they're
always desperate for. Dancers but then, again singing like you
need a little little under.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
There a little bit of, training a little bit of brad,
SUPPORT i do it makes me simultaneously incredibly sad and
then also absolutely like just in love the way people
are such good, singers like the people On TikTok that
get famous because they are in their room and they
just record and they're, amazing and then suddenly everyone knows

(01:00:35):
that they. Are LIKE i love. THAT i love how
good people, are BUT i used to get to live
in this totally ignorant bliss THAT i was really good
and then you're like even like and, Truly i'm not
saying it to like, nothing Truly i'm. Not but it's
like people so many people have auditioned For American. Idol,
yeah they're All American idol level except for the jokey

(01:00:58):
people like, good and they just aren't as good as
Like Kelly clarkson or. Whatever it's like the ceiling is
so high for. That it's kind of, great but it
also it's. Sad, yeah it's so.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
TOUGH i think singing is that thing for me Where i'm,
like IF i could wake up tomorrow and be so
good at something that you have to be really skilled
to do and takes a lot of time to learn
how to, DO i think i'd pick.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Singing do you guys have something.

Speaker 6 (01:01:23):
Like that where it's like, tomorrow like you would have
all of the like baked in skill, Sets LIKE i
think it would be singing or maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Cooking, yeah it's. Funny even as a, child my, fantasy
And i'm SURE i mentioned, this BUT i always, thought
as a, kid WHEN i come back FOR i guess
a high school reunion or maybe just during school a pep,
assembly my fantasy would be doing this amazing concert piano, recital,

(01:01:51):
yeah for all the other kids when they didn't KNOW
i could even play, piano, yeah and just blow it
out of the. WATER i or sometimes it was sex.
Phone it was a different, time but that was WHAT
i wanted to be good at. PIANO i WOULD.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I have dreams WHERE i can play the piano and
it is so exciting in the dream Where i'm like it's,
NUTS i just sit down and start doing, it Or
i'm like this is, amazing and THEN i wake. Up i'm,
like oh damn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
It.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Yeah isn't that type of thing where it's like that
idea of, like you know how when somebody's like choking
and they're like is there a?

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Doctor is?

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
It like somebody takes a break from the piano at
the piano bar and there's like does anybody play?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Piano he's fainted? Again, yeah IT'S I that is a
deep old fantasy of. Mine BUT i was raised in
a house where a piano was in the other room
THAT i never. Touched, YEAH i THINK i hit it
and chipped some keys with a hammer as a. Toddler

(01:02:52):
that's the MOST i played it with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
A hammer as a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Toddler, okay that was another.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Example that was some kids that were friends of my.
Mom's BUT i wanted to just bypass the bibliography of the.
Story but that Was matthew And David beebe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Give you a, hammer and we're, like go, nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
KID i don't know Why i've tried tried to take
credit for bad. Kid these monsters came over and grabbed a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Hammer but we're talking about them right, Now so who
won you know WHAT i, mean like you name drop
them on your podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
TODAY i could probably put a little bleep in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
There it turns out, though that that was a Young Joe,
rogan so his podcast is. Big his podcast is pretty.
Huge it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
No you were. No, oh he has a, tuxedo he's
got somewhere to be a piano. Player just. Fainted, yeah
it's it's hilarious that THAT i started. TALKING i can't
remember WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Say, well that happens to me literally all the. Time
that's what traffical. Do that's a traffical. Duty, yeah though,
honestly LIKE i kind of like sitting in.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Traffic it's very like forced soothing as a, passenger, right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
As a, passenger say as a driver.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
TOO i used to live In Culver, city a little
bit of la geography everybody always loves hearing. About, Yeah
and SO i used to like have to take three
highways to get out, here and USUALLY i was coming
like during rush hour in the, morning and you, know
you'd sit there for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Like an hour and a half or. Whatever And i've
never listened to so many books in my.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Life LIKE i was going through like a bunch of
like language, podcasts LIKE i was learning how to Speak.
Spanish i'm, LIKE i feel LIKE i was being very
enriched as a. Person oh that's, again you were using your. Time,
YEAH i just don't listen to. MUSIC i think that.
HELPS i think if you like, music that's it's hard
to switch off from, music, Right, YEAH i THINK i

(01:04:48):
would save WHEN i lived In, marvista which is Basically Culver.
CITY i lived In marvist to, two but that felt too,
niche SO i said, STONER.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I was off Of, okay this is very.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Embarrassing the street Called, sawtel BUT i had never heard
it said out loud until after we. Moved i'd lived
there for like a year and a, half AND i
thought it was, satellite AND i kept telling PEOPLE i
lived on, satellite and people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Were, like what are you talking? About and nobody ever.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
Said anything to me UNTIL i turned on my serie
voice one day and it was like turning on To
sawtel AND i.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Was, like what is going? On there's like ha ha ha,
ha and they're, like, no that is how it is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Pronounced, yeah the double tea that you just maybe put in, There.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Thank you For thank you for trying to help me.
THERE i really appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
That i'm just SAYING i put double t's. Everywhere i've
done it in a million. Times, NO i WOULD i
would prepare for work in the. CAR i would like
not prepare, things BUT i knew that the drive would
be an hour, Long so in lieu of, MUSIC i
would write that was THAT i was supposed to, do

(01:05:56):
just by like you, said recording it and listening to. It,
oh that's.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Really Head and now with the technology of the like
speak to text or, WHATEVER i, mean that's that's billble
hours at the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Exactly, yeah you punched in at. Nine, yeah BUT i
started driving at.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
Eight how hard is it not to constantly docks yourselves
on this podcast BECAUSE.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I feel Like i'm hearing about this AND i was, like, oh,
well what area do you? Live And i'm not gonna
ask that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Writing, YEAH i it's hopefully we back in the early
days WHEN i was recording in my lap and we
were driving to the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Airport chris is the sound, guy but he had never
used any of the. Equipment no very.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Fraud, yeah it all sounded like the first season was
just basically. Underwater there was just a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
The underwater, season the famous underwater.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Season a lot of gurgling and, bubbling but never edited.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Anything who knows was back?

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
There, YEAH i tweet at, us let us know what's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Bad, yeah tell me about my. Mistake cancel me for
Things i've, said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Because that's so. CRAZY i feel like that's something THAT
i never thought.

Speaker 6 (01:07:10):
About and then all of a sudden in the last
year here it's LIKE i took a photo and somebody's, like,
oh this is the street That vick was, on and
this was the, intersection AND i Think vic shops, here
AND i was, like that is so. Scary AND i
don't think it's people meaning to be, scary but it
feels very, scary you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Know IT'S i think it's people forgetting that you're actually
real and you and like have a. Life AND i
think people are, like, oh, no you're the subject of my,
interest therefore we're just going to discuss you like a.
Topic oh that's really. Interesting, yeah that makes sense where
it's like there's not any usually BECAUSE i think people

(01:07:49):
who love especially people who love, comedy it truly is
like a it's a. Love it's different than like if
you were a famous you, know starlet or, something where
it's like there's a real connection and there's a reason
that they like your.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Specifically and, yeah AND i would imagine with you, guys
especially with, podcasting that must be like a really tricky
line where like you talk so much like just by,
nature like you, know you're you're chatting about things and
like things that are happening in your lives that people
must feel especially like extra connected to what's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Happening, yeah are you on the day to?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Day, yeah it's. True even in listening to podcasts, myself
it is so much it's the closest thing to being
in a conversation with someone that you know, them, well
they don't know, you but you know, them and so
it seems like a normal thing to message them and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Say, HEY i took this picture of the top of your.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
House do you want to use? It it looks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
So beautiful from the passenger seat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Here, yeah so it doesn't seem like it's out of,
bounds but it. Isn't don't hover over houses all you
drone operating podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Fans, oh somebody sent me a. PICTURE i think it
Was bridger because, uh he looked up my address or
something and he, goes did you know this horrifying picture
of the front of your? House he was On Google
maps and it was a picture of my front. Door
and THEN i think they the like car drove by
on my birthday because there was a very beautiful bouquet

(01:09:18):
of flowers laying on my. Doorstep but it looked like
someone took that and posted. It so it was like
it looked and there were like kind of lilies and
like it was fancy enough as a bouquet that it looked,
scary like it was just kind of like who left
that is? That from So bridger was all freaked. Out i'm,
like that was my. BIRTHDAY i think those those were

(01:09:39):
from All but why Was bridger google image searching your?
Home and this is WHY i brought it up BECAUSE
i don't want to question. HIM i want him to be,
questioned right, Right we want. Answers YEAH i, Didn't So
bridger tweet at, us let us know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
For sure what you were up. To he wanted to
know if his flowers.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
Arrived oh yeah, yeah and he said The google car
to check on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Them that'd be. Incredible if like you forgot to say
thank you to someone who's saying then it's, like did
you know this weird picture is? Somewhere it's like it's
in my. PHONE i took. It i'm mad at. You,
well this is like telling on myself a little.

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
Bit but do you ever have that where like somebody
messages you and then you like saw it but forgot
to respond to, it and so then enough time goes
by that then they message you back about it and you're, like,
oh sorry that last message LIKE.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
I just didn't see or like didn't come through or.
Whatever just a little white. Lie oh, yes oh. YEAH
i do it all the, time all the.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
TIME i do that too, much ESPECIALLY i travel back
and forth From, canada and SO i have some plausible
deniability to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Be, like OH i just didn't come THROUGH i was
out of the. Country BUT i do THINK i feel
like everyone tells that lie and participates in that, lie
so nobody can truly like confront you without being a.
Hypocrite oh that's.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
INTERESTING i feel that way about talking behind people's backs,
too Where i'm just, LIKE i literally don't want to
know anything about anything that anyone is saying about. Me,
YEAH i unless it's something THAT i have to. Address
if people are just blowing off. Steam everybody has to
do it every once in a, While like if you
need to talk some shit about me that it's one
thousand percent. Fine, YES i just do not want to
be party to it in any, way shape or.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
FORM i don't want to. KNOW i don't want to
hear about. IT i don't want another friend telling me about.
It i'm just, LIKE i want no part in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
It how about reading comments on videos? Online do you
do you ever dive into that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Same thought people's thoughts on me or none of my? Business,
Yea LIKE i do, think especially doing having any kind
of art. Online it's, like if people are coming to
my page with something That i've reposted to say, something
you're gonna get blocked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Immediately i'm, Fine like that's, like.

Speaker 6 (01:11:35):
You, know there's but like if people are going to
drop out page or like online forums or, whatever that
people should be able to discuss art.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
ONLINE i think you know WHAT i.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
Mean and, like, again unless it's something that LIKE i
have to address in one in any, way some, way
shape or. FORM i think that people should and shouldn't
be having conversations about. Art AND i feel very privileged
to be in a position, that like people enough people
are watching this stuff That i'm doing that like there
are conversations around.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
IT i think it's really. Cool it, Is it's very,
cool and you're so. Right it's like that IDEA i
think some people want some that's an attempt at, engagement
is like WELL i didn't like, this or you, know
they're coming with some sort of, criticism And i'm always like, god,
bless like, yeah everybody gets to have their own thing

(01:12:23):
about what's, happening for. Sure it's, yeah you're not looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
CONSENSUS i am so it's so, unhealthy BUT i care
so much about the opinions and strangers and if there
is a how.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Do you engage with? Them?

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
Though are you like chatting with people back and, forth
people like saying? Stuff when are you sort of, like, oh?
Noted or are you just lurking it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Is I'm i'm thinking more of like When i'm doing stand.
Up if there's a sleeveless shirt dad up front that
has his arms crossed and isn't enjoying, me that's WHO
i focus, on and that's always been the. Case everyone else's, Laughing,
great why is this person? NOT i. CAN'T i can't

(01:13:03):
deal with?

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
It CAN i?

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Be?

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Honestly this short? Dad what are you doing sitting in
the front?

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Row you got brought here by your daughter because it
was your weekend and she wanted to, sit, like sit
in the, back sit respectfully somewhere in the middle behind the,
lights you know WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Mean we were yelling at each other at home and
THEN i REALIZED i won these free comedy tickets tickets
from the radio this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Morning well, ALSO i feel like those some audience members
don't realize that where it's, like you know how you
can see, ME i can also see yes looking at
me and keeping the look on your face of how
you actually feel about me is absolutely very rude and,
aggressive even though you're just in the audience having your,
experience but like the lights are on you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Friend, yeah, yeah you would think. THAT a number of
times the person THAT i thought was hating me that
comes up and said that was so.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Fun, yeah that is so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Interesting your face is not in line with what you just.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Said But i'm, like to be judged just on your
resting face is so.

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
Hard somebody WHEN i was in college SAID i had
a really stern resting. Face And i've thought about that
every single day, since and So i've literally practiced in
the mirror of my resting face being sort of like
a pleasantly, amused you know WHAT i, mean sort of
LIKE i smelled something kind of, nice.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Like that's kind of like my resting. Face, yeah that's
what people are talking about behind your. Back yeah you
want to. Know oh that's, right you just said you
didn't want to.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
Know, Sorry oh, Man, yeah it's, LIKE i don't know
what's so interesting. THAT i, mean coming back to, theater
seeing as we were talking about the twenty minutes, ago.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
That was like the hardest part of. IT i think
about like growing up doing.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
THEATER i highly recommended anybody that's like got, teenagers like
get them in the theater department in some.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
CAPACITY i think it's really good and really healthy for
dealing with conflict resolution and, like you, know just like
preparing something and performing. IT i think has a lot of.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
Things but, LIKE i have never met a group of
kids that are, like will tear each other down.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Only to build each other back up again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Faster you, know, right do you guys do theater at? All?
YEAH i did, it and well we. DIDN'T i went
to a tiny high. School we only got drama my senior,
year and THEN i was a theater major in. College
THEN i dropped out of college BECAUSE i became a beer,
major and THEN i became a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
COMEDIAN i love.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
That it was a pretty nice arc your time in.
College what plays did you do or did you get
to the phase where you were doing? Plays? Yes We
the first one Was carnival is the Musical? Carnival, yes
kind of, boring but some a couple of good, songs
AND i was just a lady in the. Background then
the next DID i do other? PLAYS i can't. REMEMBER

(01:15:53):
i think it was just in those kind of bigger
musicals because then the smaller ones were like the really talent,
sophomores and the juniors and seniors would be in like
the non, musicals, Right SO i never kind of made
it to. That then the next musical Was on The,
town which was the next year's, musical super.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Fun on The.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Town it's an old, one it's an. Oldie so then
AFTER i dropped, OUT i started going to the community
college In sacramento and they had this really cool kind
of it was The Sacramentous City Actors. Theater oh, cool
AND i got immediately got cast As antigony no. Way

(01:16:34):
SO i went from like can't get a, part nobody
will pick me for, anything, like, OH i Guess i'm
maybe not that good at, it to antigony And antigony
to the lead in a fucking play WHERE i was just, like,
oh oh, NO i don't know IF i can do.
That Really, yeah it was, crazy AND i GO i,
think really. WELL i had a teacher that was like

(01:16:54):
a history, teacher AND i always skip skipped that class or,
whatever BUT i went to that class and he started
the class by saying like pointing at me and being,
like that's the best Play i've seen at this school
in like thirty years and he was just, LIKE, a you,
KNOW i don't it's like just a history. Teacher it.

(01:17:15):
Wasn't he was, like, OH i need to make her feel.
Good it was like he needed to let me. Know
and THEN i was like, again it was that kind
of thing of, like that's ALL i need to. HEAR
i don't care what anybody else. Thinks that's the ultimate
fucking compliment And i'm just gonna take it as a.

Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Win, yeah that really is it a and, like oh,
man and also to, LIKE i think how incredible that
you also have like the ability to go Like i'm
gonna receive this and just go thank, you BECAUSE i
feel like that's a hard thing to do sometimes. Too
AND i think Something i'm working on personally is just
going like there's a compliment flying in my, Direction i'm
gonna take it because life is hard and like it's

(01:17:48):
a hard, industry and like why you could always question,
it but also you could just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Take, It, yeah because the taking it is respecting someone
else's opinion and not kind of not putting your insecurity
in the foreground to go arguing or. Whatever it's, like,
no let other people's opinions sway you when it's, good
like you're, saying it's the least you can do for
yourself in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
This and the other person my. Mom growing, up people
would always compliment my mom and she'd, go, well, no not.
Really she would, like just try and talk them out of.
It you look nice, Today oh this whole. Thing oh, yeah,
Yeah And i'm, Like, okay don't do. That but of
COURSE i do. It of COURSE i do that all the.

(01:18:31):
Time it's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Hard it's hard not. To, okay, theater what shows were we?

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
In, oh that's. FUNNY i guess the PLAYS i did
in high. SCHOOL i didn't realize that it WOULD i
just thought it was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
A fun thing to do in high.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
School AND i didn't know that after that at college
they didn't, really it wasn't presented to. ME i. DON'T i.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
YEAH i did Go, chasers a loosely based On, GHOSTBUSTERS i.
Suppose but it was so fun and again it was
just like you. Said my My spanish teacher was said
that was, great AND i that was a class THAT
i had been kicked out. Of we had some.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Issues but he had to give it to you for
your Ghost.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah and it felt, great but in college
it just seemed, like, well there's the dance. Department i'm
in the visual arts. Arts, yeah painting and. Drawing that's
WHY i went to school for SO i so focused
on that and and currently doing you, know painting signs
and DOING t shirt. Designs LIKE i thought that was

(01:19:41):
going to be my job UNTIL i was drunk at a,
party got kicked, out and then in the back of
the newspaper the woman who's whose house it, was, Said,
hey do you want to do start an improv? GROUP
i didn't even know what that. Meant and then she,
Said i'm, sorry, yes whose line is?

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Anyway? Party yes for trying. ON i was, DRUNK i
was with a bunch of. FRIENDS i THINK i broke a.

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
Lamp but and then the woman whose house it was was,
like you got to get, out but also do you
want to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Days my mother was looking in the back of the
newspaper and the personals ADS a had leopard print, hair
so she knew it was about, me and she, said
someone wants to do improv with, you AND i was,
LIKE i don't know what that? Is no, way, Yeah
and then SO i called the number and, yes that's

(01:20:35):
that's HOW i got. Started it was a weird way
to get.

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
Started kind of. Alone that's. Incredible i've never met somebody
that found themselves in a.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
PERSONAL i, Know i've never heard that story.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Because oh, wow, OKAY i would have thought that's Something
i've told a million times on. Here yeah It, OTHERWISE
i know THAT i would have just continued doing like
graphic design and illustration, work AND i still do that
here and. Thereby it was being in that. Group and
then we went To austin and there was like an
improv festival there AND i took a stand up, class

(01:21:09):
SO i moved there to do, both and THEN i
just ended up going with stand. Up SO i didn't
really act in plays so. Much but, hilariously like the
piano outside my, bedroom there's something Called Missoula Children's theater
that WHEN i was doing press jun kids act Like
Chris pine, SAID i did The Missoula Children's. Theater there's

(01:21:31):
all these kids, that as young actors moved To. Missoula
so it was right outside my. Door AND i never, knew.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Like specifically to get like a jump start in the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Industry, YES i apparently it's a highly regarded children's uh you,
know school and. Production they do. Plays wait what are your?

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Plays?

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Me, okay, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
SO I i had this weird thing WHERE i did
stuff with toy T Toronto Youth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
THEATER i, LIKE i didn't do any any. Thing.

Speaker 6 (01:22:01):
REALLY i did a little bit of children's theater WHEN
i lived In, illinois AND i had just always been,
like IF i have a chance to reinvent, Myself i'm
just going to start telling people THAT i do, acting
WHICH i did when we moved up To.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Toronto and THEN i had the worst audition for my
school play. Ever but because everybody had thought THAT i
did theater at my old, school they thought it was
just a bad audition AND i ended up getting a
lead in the. Show it was a bad, show but
it was a great learning.

Speaker 6 (01:22:29):
Experience since, then it's a bunch of the kids that
were like the really intense theater kids were, like we're
going to go audition For Toronto Youth. Theater SO i
did that, too And Toronto theater was like the type
of theater that we did Hair it and we did
rent and the whole thing was like we were the
first like youth theater troupe that were granted the rights
to the full production Of rent with like what's that song?

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Called is it Called? HEAT i can't.

Speaker 6 (01:22:52):
Remember it's like the sex scene song, basically but it's
cut from the high school version for you, know you
don't want to see sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Year olds doing. That it's.

Speaker 6 (01:23:00):
Problematic and Then, hair which has like the big nude
scene in the middle of, it which we cut and
put in a stomp number.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
In really based on the very popular at the Time, stop.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Based on the super popular at the. Time stop was
all the rage in twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Eleven was that because there was trash cans already on.

Speaker 6 (01:23:20):
SET i guess it was like it was so, strange
but it, WAS i, mean it was life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Changing it was so. FUN i had the absolute time
of my. Life oh it's so. Fun it's so.

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
Fun and it was like the first time THAT i
LIKE i was like going to, Parties Like i'd never
been to parties or anything like that before. Then it
was just, LIKE i, mean it really changed my life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Completely it's so LIKE i just remember being BECAUSE i
came from like kind of a small farm town and
so doing plays and being in that kind of very
regimented system and. Whatever it was like it felt like
so glamorous to me beyond Where i'm, like we're gonna
work on this for, secret for months and, months and

(01:24:02):
then we're, gonna you, know go in front of the
whole town and everyone's gonna see all the work we
did and they're not going to believe. It it was
like that idea was so satisfying to actually get to.

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Do what a beautiful way to put that is that
you're preparing for it in. Secret i've never thought of
it that, way but what a beautiful framing that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Really, is just like so deeply. Specific you don't have
to cross the.

Speaker 6 (01:24:25):
Street i'm actually walking down this, way so even if
you want to drop me on this, side that is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Perfect, Okay i'm going to turn down this so we
can just have a goodbye.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Moment YET i love that we have a. Routine we
need you to learn to handshake the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Like sign all the. PaperWorks what's that movie where she
does the? Handshake is it called the? Handshake, yeah it's
the handshake the parent trap.

Speaker 6 (01:24:50):
On thank You And i'm sorry once, AGAIN i keep
looking at you because we're in the backseat, together SO
i need your.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
SUPPORT i wasn't making. Enough, no you really were you're
wearing really great sunglasses right. Now also the listener can
use that as a. VISUAL i just want you to, Know,
vic that We chris has been so excited that you
were coming on this. Podcast, god and we've been talking
about you for a while and it's, oh, sorry there's

(01:25:19):
a car behind. Me so we're just so excited that
we finally got to talk to you.

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
And, Here, CHRIS i really literally cannot tell you how
lovely this has been and what a joy it was
to go and listen to some of the episodes of
the podcast and like now it'd be a podcast THAT
i listened to AND i am sitting in. Traffic, Well
i'm such a fan of both of yours AND i
really can't thank you enough for having me on here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
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Course yeah again a lot of the Things vic. Does
it's on DROPOUT, tv WHICH i think it's like five
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SHOW i promise you'll like the things that are on
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Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
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