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December 1, 2025 42 mins

This week, Karen and Chris chat about fear crushes, petty birds and more!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Happy holidays to.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You and yours living and it's grace.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Are leaving. I you wanna way back home?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Either way, we wanna be there.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
time and they terminal engage. We want to send you
off in stamer We wanna welcome you back home. Tell
us all about it. We scared? Or was it fine?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Malborn?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Do you need to ride? Do you need with? Karen
and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride? This
is Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgariff.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm good. It feels weird out today. It's like humid.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
It feels like it's trying to be cold, but instead
it's like a threatening a thunderstorm.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Your equilibrium is being affected by a abnormal amount of
air pressure. I think so, I'm not a meteorologist. Oh
I did watch the Surf Report this morning. Oh okay,
and we're in a high pressure situation situation right now.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Okay, Well that explains everything about my ajuda and my
nerves and my speaking of.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
The Surf Report. I just need to tell you this
is just kind of an out of the blue thing.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I happened upon a podcast of a surfer sterling.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yes have you seen him?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Pinch my salt? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
They're the best?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's is it his brother or his cousin?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think? I think, yeah, they are related. They're related,
but they don't look alike, so it's hard to believe
they're brothers. But they are brothers.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh okay, yeah either way. It's the weirdest thing.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
But and I don't know if you've done this with
a podcast, but every once in a while I'll get
a podcast where I have to listen to it like
every morning, and it becomes a weird ritual and I
don't know what they're talking about, and sometimes I don't like.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
What they're talking about. And I still love them so much,
like I can't stop listening to it. It's the weirdest thing.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, I've always had a weird beef with surfing. There's
the territorialism, there's the gatekeeping of certain spots, and there's hey,
this is my wave now, no one else can have it,
which is basically what I don't like about Republicans. These
guys aren't like that at all, and they then they

(03:35):
make fun of the hypocrisy. It's if they make fun
of surfing. And they also give credit to skateboarding often
even though they don't skateboard. So I love those and
they're very.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Funny because the one guy who I will continue to
argue is the cousin skateboards. So he's like not a surfer.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh okay, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, I think he's like coming from a different angle.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
But they just like giggle and like rift together.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yep, in that way that it's like when you're in
the basement and your parents are like, don't make any
noise or you'll get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, And it's also in the way that you get
used to comedians doing it, and underlying there is a
little competition who can say the funniest thing. These guys
aren't trying to do.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
That, so it's more No, yeah, it's very So.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
We're promoting whatever that podcast is called, Pinch My Salt,
Pinch My Salt with Sterling something.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Sterling Spencer, Yeah, and his cousin who is kind of
the host.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
His cousin plays the part of like driving the conversation
or whatever. And then it's like and then Sterling Spencer,
as they repeatedly say, like a world class surfer, h
gives like insider surf information.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It is. There is a guilt that is so real
that I moved here and I have not because I'm
a surfer. I have friends in Montana, I have friends
in Idaho. They surf several times a year. They've made
it their lifestyle to travel and stay good at surfing.
I find it frustrating and difficult. And every time it's

(05:14):
on the morning news, like a meteorologist actually going, hey,
all you surfers, there's a northwest well coming in. So
if you're a goofy footer, you should go to steamer Lane.
Like they it's that specific, and there's so much.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Pressure, yes, pressure, and you're right about the they talk
about the kind of territorial part where I like lots
of people.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I have lots of friends who are like, you should
get into surfing. It's like, no thanks, Yeah, no thanks.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
And it is different. A skate park is there, it
is stagnant. It is not going to not be there
in a half hour. Yeah, there's a liminated amount of time.
And when you know, I can see when if I
think about little kids on scooters hacking out a park
and there's no room for the people that have done

(06:04):
this their whole lives, I kind of get it. But
still skateboarders are more It seems like a more inclusive sport,
so many people have access to it.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, and I think you're right, there's the Well, now
I'm gonna talk about it as if I know, but
it's only because I've listened it to twenty five of
these podcasts.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
But it's like the rare.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
You're looking for a wave that's better than average, right,
so you can't have people fucking up your.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Chance, right, And when I've gone surfing, it's more that
feeling that I'm fucking it up for everyone by simply
trying not to drown in the wrong part of the wave.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
From what I understand, you are fucking it up for
a bunch of people. Also, here's what I really love,
because I do love Kelly Slater. Because Kelly Slater was
like sixteen when I was twelve, So he was like
one of those fear crushes where were.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Like, oh my god, that Skater's gonna punch me whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
But it's like he's the most beautiful man on the planet. Yeah,
it's handsome and so good at surfing, and they talk
about him so much it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
He's always been the best. He's the Michael Jordan of surfing.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
He is.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And when I used to interview these guys for Fuel,
nothing against surfing, but they rarely had a sense of humor.
I needed for a comedic interview to where I'd just
drop it and pretend to know about surfing, which they
see right through. But Kelly Slater totally played the straight man.

(07:29):
Totally knew that I was going to be the one
that was making fool of himself and that he would
come out looking good, and he knew how to play that.
And he had a great sense of humor. Oh yeah,
he was great. There's no one nicer than him in
the surfing world. I mean in the surfing.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
World, in the surfing world.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
In the regular world. The guy's a dick. I'm just kidding,
but yeah, he was. I really like command. I always
see when he called on things and he says very supportive,
sweet things on the most random posts, and he's doing
it a lot. He the guy is on his phone

(08:12):
a lot because I see, you know, a cat on
a dog, a swimming dog's back, those kind of videos
that make me choke up that I'm like me and
people are at Joanne Fabrics right now are the only
Kelly and he's leaving comments and he says really nice things.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
He's like, please keep swimming, little doggie. Yeah, yeah, well
that's great because it is quite something that someone would
be just based on the opinions of these podcasters, how
good Kelly Slater is. Like, I would just think he's
a model type that's surfing.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Because he's so good.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
He's he could be played by Channing Tatum, but it
wouldn't do him justice to be played by Channing Tatum.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Right, you're right. I just want to talk about that
part and Channing if you're listening what Karen's saying, and
I agree, he's better looking than.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
You, Channing, you need to stop acting like you are
better looking than everybody, because there's one guy that got
you beat.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, and it's the guy that got everybody beat.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah. And I know you're in different businesses, so he's
no threat. But he was a body double in Silver
Surfer who was Kelly Slater. That's one of the times
I interviewed him. I have interviewed him probably ten times.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
No, that's so exciting. Were you excited?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Uh? I mostly nerd out when it's a skateboarder, you
save it, yes, okay, And but it is with him.
He is the that whatever Tony Hawk of surfing or
Michael Jordan of surfing.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Sidney's the Cindy Crawford.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
He's the Cindy Crawford of Victorious Secret sponsored surfing. I
don't know if she if she is an angel, but
always really nice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
So I'm so surprised, Yeah, and excited.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Exactly because I always heard, Oh, this guy is gonna
be short with you. He might not want to do it.
Try not to make any sudden movements, do not make
eye contact. I was really given a bunch of a
list of like disclaimers, and he was so nice and
I'm like, well, oh, he just it's kind of funny
and he likes talking to funny people.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Then you flip that list over and it was for
pit Bulls.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Pitbull the recording artist exactly. Actually Pitbull the recording artist
you don't want to make eye contact with.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, he will absolutely rip your leg off.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, because he's bitty, He's busy. He's a bitty. He's
a busy, little bitty.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's a little busy bee and hes DJing.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Do not bother it. He's taking two records and playing
them simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Now do you think mister Worldwide actually does still get
behind the ones and twos to this.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Day by mister Worldwide?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yes, this is just like you not knowing the fucking
brother cousin relationship.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
What's your deal?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I maybe don't know much about Pitbull. He just mostly dances.
I know he doesn't play any instruments.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I don't think he does, although it would be amazing
if he was, like all of a sudden playing the bass.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah. It's just always been funny to me when someone
is that popular and like DJ colleague, they both look
like BMW salesman.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yes, basically, yeah, get a fancy watch from this guy.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
We are calling people out today.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I know you're dishing, you know why. That's how you
fucking get numbers. Yeah, you pick a favorite. Look at this, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
What are you doing? Straight up to the settle, just
right in the middle, straight up the center.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm not gonna choose a lane, and I'm not gonna
wash my car or mine. Oh she was just sun
hat eating sun chips. She didn't give a shit.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
She was honestly eighty three or four. Yeah, okay, you
have to go slower.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay, it's it's always scary in a parking lot.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Not great.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
This guy is so cautious as if he doesn't, we're
we're going desperately to get coffee.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
You're okay, You're fine.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
He's mad at himself though, He's like, why can't I
pull out faster?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think it's shame. There's a shame, but it really
what it was is he just bought that tesla used
and he does not want to scratch it right. So
he was like, you can't make me, although everyone is
kind of making him.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know how long I had to wait to get
this specific grape purple?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
This gorgeous, kind of electric midnight blue.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Looks like there's a lot of people in line for
this roastery.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh, yes, is mom paw roastery?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
This mom roastery that we go to some yes.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I hope there's still the original owner. So they were
such a cute couple.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Jack Shirley, is that you?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Is that you? I noticed the building is still handmade
with your own wicker. Nah, it's a brick and mortar
of a giant corp.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
God damn it. That's okay, it's what everything's like.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
What are your thoughts of poetry and poetry slamming?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
It makes me wildly uncomfortable too.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Because of the kittens. Oftentimes when people read poetry it
goes like this, it sounds like this I watched, but.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Also of look their jets in the sharks a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, we're gone. I'd get them. We're gone. I dance.
We're gonna stab them by the beach. So yeah, it's
west side, sorry by the beach.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's Santa Monica's west side. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, the real sharks.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's the stabbous sharks.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah. It's so hard for them to snap because of
dorsal fins. There's a woman that my girlfriend soon introduced
me to a while ago, Andrea Gibson. I think is
her name. She's a poet, laureate. Okay, cut to randomly.
When I saw Tig at Largo. She's like, I made
a documentary about my friend Andrea Gibson. I think her

(14:18):
name is Gibson. I'm pretty sure it is the best documentary.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Oh, I can't wait. I bet it is. If Tig
made it.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
And watching Andrea perform, I'm not gonna give anything away
if anyone does know her, you know that she has passed.
But oh, I guess I did give it away if
you didn't know her.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I didn't, but I was about to ask you, this
is not the young woman that read her poetry at
the inauguration.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't eight years ago.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Okay, I don't think so, Okay they are.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
That's basically the one poet I know that's in that's
doing work.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, Andrea is watching the performances. I was like getting
as someone who has always said I'm not that into poetry,
but I've seen it at the Boise Idaho Open Slam
open Mic. Before the comedy, I was like, wrap it up,
I have to get on stage. This person is like

(15:17):
a rock star of poetry and watching the show sold
out theaters, people hanging on every word, people crying, and
I was getting in it emotionally, the just the and
it's not Andrew even jokes about not having like every poem,
I use the same five words. I don't have a

(15:38):
huge full cup vocabulary. And it is such a testament
to the arrangement wheres it's just the best.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
What are the poems about exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Life and things that I could not I am not
a poet myself, so I'm not going to sum up everything.
What is our podcast out?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Drive around?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Right? That's what most of her poems are about driving
and different guests in her thoughts. But it's on Apple TV.
It's going to be on Apple TV. Like it's a
full on movie. We started We're giving Me in the
Good Light.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's called Oh see me in the Good.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Light, Come see me in the good Light, Come see
Me in the good Light. So good, but it's emotional.
But Andrea and her partner are so funny and in
such a tig way, like the timing drive I laughed
through the whole thing. Oh wow, so you're laughing and
crying and it's it's those things done so well, Like, wow,

(16:42):
that was amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, here's what I have to say as a trend
in the nineties, because it was like member, it was
on MTV sometimes and it was like they really pushed
it as a trend of like slam poetry is going
to be the next big thing.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I didn't like that.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
But there's definitely a lot of clips I've seen of
people that they do it and they're talking about something
really important or really personal and then.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You like, by the end you're a total believer. Yeah,
like the and they are really talented and is a
great performance.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
So yeah, that's especially talking about the meaning of life
and things that you don't like to think about, like
death done in such a beautiful way that by the
end of this documentary I wasn't scared to die in
a way because of the words. I had to actually

(17:34):
look up that Andrea Gibson was their name and their pronouns.
Are they them? So okay, I want to make sure. Yeah,
it was really good, but so sad. I can't remember
why I wrote it.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Was it because you saw tag a tag memory?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah? They were just randomly an old old friend of
tigs like New York Style Colorado style. Oh wow, and
Andrea has the exact same time. I felt like I
was watching Tig and then when they were in the
room together or backstage they did a show together, it

(18:22):
was like hilarious to see them. I know that in
their heads they were like, this person is so similar
to me.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
It was pretty So they're like old friends from when
they're in their twenties.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah. So it made me even more emotional because I
saw Tig in this friend of hers and then you're
watching Oh, just going through the hardest things but having
the best albums about it, and I'm still afraid to die.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
It just made you made it sound like you were cured.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
No, no, I'm gonna start bungee jumping. I'm I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
I really wanted to, like to feel like seasonal on
like wintertime holiday right now, but it's the humidity.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, it's I want it to at least feel like
fall happened somewhere, but it's just been human. It's been Okalla, Florida.
I'm getting mosquito bites. What is happening? Yeah, help us,
al Gore, re explain everything.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Al Gore's like I died twenty years ago. I didn't
know I had an al gore.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
But he's still alive.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
He's just saying that, Yeah he's he means it more emotionally.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, it's I'm realized. The only because it's time. It's
that time of life again for me where I have
to replace my brake pads. That's the only season here.
Every five years, that time of life, my pads are
grinding against my exposed rotor ribs. And that's when I

(19:56):
know once it's so expensive that you have to replace
everything involved with a break. That's every five years, and
then I know another quarter of a decade has passed.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
So since you've last replaced your rotors, what do you
what have what have you improved in your life? I?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Uh, I've gotten more. I've gotten better about not caring
even more about my break's demise. So it's actually I
let it get worse and worse. That's what I've learned. Okay,
it's not that big of a deal, So you have
to pay a few hundred dollars more so your life
will feel like it's in danger when you drive to

(20:37):
Santa Barbara to see your friends. Yeah, I was going downhill.
You know what really knocked him out? Of whack. The
other day when I there's a barista in the middle
of the road, I slammed on the brakes and they
looked at me like they didn't care at all that
their life was almost taken. What they just had a
dead stare Jesus. And when I slammed on the brakes,

(20:58):
it knocked something askew.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
In your rotors or in that break. Believe, why didn't
you know they were brista.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Ah black Apronkay, I don't know. It's something about a
black apron. I'm like, I know you're not making bread.
The flower would show up on that black god it,
But black aprons means I'm ready for the darkest brood
ever splash upon me. I know I'm riffing here, but
I think I'm actually right.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Maybe you got somewhere.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I think it may have gotten somewhere. You may have life.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
You may have really dug yourself out of that. Yeah
apron hoole.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, it's certainly was not looking forward to going to work.
They were jaywalking to go to a mall. It was like,
I hate this job. And then I suddenly they were
in the road and I slammed on the brakes and
heard a click, and there was forever an added noise

(21:58):
even when coasting.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
You are lucky those brakes worked.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yes. In fact, I forgot about this until I was
going down Grapevine Hill passing cars like they were standing still.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
That's not good.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yes, So it's time. It's that time of life once
again where I need to fork over a few hundred bucks.
Read the old Honda.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
There's a guy on TikTok who drives around fixing people's
cars for free, and I love it so much. He
has got like long, hairy, looks like a rocker, and
he kind of like he'll see somebody like a car
look kind of beat down and shitty and he's like,
mmm yeah, and these guys, I don't like the way
this wheel looks. And there was one where it was

(22:43):
like this old lady and her nephew and she needed
to replace all the rotors on all four wheels and
they were super fucked up, and he replaced all of
them for her and then got her all new tires.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Because I'm seeing someone that goes door to door, it's like, hey,
can I paint your car for free? And then they
do like an amazing job. And usually people are like no,
I don't want you to touch my car. But if someone
is actually not their trigger responses and no solicitors, yeah,
they're like sure, and a classic car that's all rusty.

(23:18):
It's so fun to watch because you know you're watching
a three minute version where you see the payoff. Is
they're finished.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah it is. There's nothing better than that. Well,
there's other things.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I mean Christmas, Yeah, there's Christmas.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
There's a good firework display. Oh there's some things better,
you know how. I love the works.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
You love the works and the Chinese.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, and I love scaring dogs you.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I love making dogs wine from seven pm until three
days later. They have to figure somebody has to solve that,
and whoever does is going to become a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah. Them being illegal certainly hasn't made a dent.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
No, that's kind of the joy of fireworks is saying
fuck you to the man and getting to owen aw
with your family.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
During the Dodgers winning the World Series last year, I
was on stage and my last joke was interrupted by
massive amounts of fireworks. Cut you at an outdoor show.
Cut to this year, the exact fucking thing happened. I
was on stage. People are looking around because the kaiwan
know what the score is. And then fireworks right when

(24:34):
I'm ramping up to a punchline.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
And that's when everybody knows.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Then yeah, twice, this fucking team has heckled met at
a pivotal point in my show.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Damn them.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
And uh, and then I go home and there's just
cars Waymo's getting tipped over. I mean, I love the camaraderie.
It brings a city. Well, we don't need to act
like it's and Chester football and and start. Yeah, my

(25:07):
street was just chaos. Well it was.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah, It's kind of like if somebody and I can't
say a name because I wouldn't be able to landed
a seven.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Twenty Boeing seven twenty seven. Oh sorry, isn't that some
sort of a turn?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, anyone doing a seven twenty, they'll get kudos, they'll
get credit.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
But I mean that would be firework relevant to you.
Would you say then fireworks should be shot off?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
No? I don't like them. Fourth, go we've in a seven.
I don't, it's not people are doing twelve eighties now
care No?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yes? I don't know. Then I don't.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm just saying numbers.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I hear other people children from Japan that are training
in a facility and the doing fourteen twenties. I don't
even know. I can't count that many. Three sixties. That's
tiny little bodies spinning in the air effortlessly landing, making
me think, why am I having trouble even standing on

(26:17):
the thing at times?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
This child because the child knows. The child is locked
into success.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right, Yeah, it's it. And they have no fear, and
they don't they have not seen injury, I guess, and
they don't have like the body weight gravity issue with slamming.
It's like it's okay when your full body hits the
bottom of at the bottom of a transition on the
flat if you only weigh eighty pounds. Yeah, it's less

(26:48):
like a bird when you throw it out a window. Wait,
what you know a flightless bird when you're like, get
out of my office and you throw it out in
the window and it bounces off the ground. Just fine,
Where did you they're light? I abuse birds?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
And can you get your hands on penguins? What other
flightless birds?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I've ben? When a cat jumps off a roof and
you're like, well, surely that cat will have injuries like
soaring four stories and then they just run away.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, that's right, because they're light, that's true.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And they're experiencing the same gravity as us. I guess
when you see a kitty falling out a window, you
can't think of it. You think of it as a
little person. But you have to adjust for gravity.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
You do every time.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
And also you started off by saying throw them out
the window. So I think it's now that we're here
that it's just happenstance.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I'm good with it.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I know, I know. I hate when I've blurred my deepest,
darkest desirish.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Is that what you want? Deep down?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I kill I've tried. I've tried to get into bird watching.
I appreciate flocks, I appreciate murders, all the groupings of birds.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Not enough blood.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
But deep down, I'm just kidding. I don't want to
hurt a bird. Yeah, I've had many opportunities. I'm not
going to do it. I said, please, don't not do it.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Now the audience has to write in and keep you
from killing a bird.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yes, I will never I will never hurt a bird.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Do we have social media? If you are listening to
let's go to our social media.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, if you have it, Yes, I believe we have it.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I believe we have it. I believe in it.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I believe in it. I know it makes an impact.
I believe that we have it.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Perfect if you kill if you like killing birds, please
go to our social media and yeah and smash.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
That like button. Let us know do you use one
or two stones?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I honestly, stuff like this upsets people so badly. We
should not be I should not be making that joke
right right, you're going with what I'm forcing you.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
To talk about it. It's okay. I would never hurt
a bird, nor would you never If there was a
bird that was injured on the side of the road,
I would dangerously pull over and not know what to do.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, you know what you do. You'd get your old
T shirt that's from the trunk.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yes, I would, and.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
You would make a little T shirt nest and you
would pick up bird up and put it in your
car and drive all around with it.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I would hurry up, go buy a popsicle, eat it
real quick, brain feeds headache, use the sticks, make a
splint or its wing.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Oh, then it's like it's my leg dumbass. But the
bird can talk. It's a parrot. It's a hilarious part.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Is everyone always assume it's my wing, just this scarred up,
grizzled bird, always getting injured. When I skate at Costco,
there's crows that and I know the ones that know
me because they are very smart and they memorize cars.
And when I show up and they're all eating garbage

(29:52):
around because I guess the people are clean up. A
lot have been on strike. Oh not thrown shade to Costco,
but the parking lot's been dirty.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yes, I've been sweeping it myself. Oh and I repaired
the curb today with some steel stick.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
What did you do with the curb?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I repaired the curb.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
You repaired the curve?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, got you with. I sanded him, put some steel stick,
buffed it out. Looks brand new, and the birds want
to be by the city and they yeah, no. A
Costco worker came out and said, what are you doing.
I'm like, I'm repairing the damage that skateboarding is done
to this curb and then he's like thanks smart. Yeah.
And the crows know though when I show up that

(30:32):
I'm the car that parks in the spot and I
see them getting out of the way of where I
normally park. What guys that I skate with don't notice
where I normally parks.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Men are something the way they don't pay attention.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, well, I mean even if you crows memorize your
face and if you wrong them or hank at them,
crows won't find out where you and shit on your
car every morning. Yeah, it's the best. It's my favorite
thing about birds.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
How petty they are.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's it's the the casual me saying, you know, when
you throw a bird out a window. I'm making up
for it now. But I'm going to do is talk
about all the birds I love.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No good idea and how you defend them because there's
eighteen crows chasing this car right now.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
So I don't know why they're called a murder because
I want a birth more. I want to become a
crow breeder. Gross, They're going to be small and able
to fit in your pocket. I guess you're excited about
my breeding now or.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yes I am.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Pockets.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's like such a good idea. Do these wants talk yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, they talk with like a Boston accent. They won't
stop mentioning pickles.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh, and then they're like, I'm in your pocket. How
do you like them pickles? That's that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yes, exactly. Uh, who are the two crows that are
cartoon friends?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
They were from Dumbo, but they were very racist representations.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Of black people.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Are kidding me?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
That's how people ended up feeling about it.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, that it was not done in a loving represent
representative voices.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I'm getting started.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Are they they don't make quoted of two cartoon crows the.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Ones on the line that have really big faces? Are
you thinking of.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Those two guys that are always trying to kill each
other in Mad magazine?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Right? But I don't know if the spy versus spy I.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
These are distant. We do not need to get to
the bottom of this.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, let's try.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
But I think there's famous crows and uh, I'm fitting
you know what I'm thinking of the band the Black.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Crows that whole time you're thinking of Heroin Addicts.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yes, okay, but I love them. They're very smart. Everyone
gives all this credit to Ravens. I was thinking about
that in New York too. You see a pigeon in
New York. It is just so a dove. There are
white pigeons. If a bird specialist could explain to me

(33:25):
why doves are this symbol of peace that you hold
up on a peasant and you give them their own
fig leaves, and a pigeon is just some streak chicken
that belongs in the subway. No one respects that, they
even kick at them. What's the difference? A on a
strand of dioxy rib nucleic acid known as DNA. I

(33:50):
believe pigeons and doves are the exact same bird. But
you know what it is, doves are white. Everyone's racist. Yeah,
if you want piece, if you signify peace with this bird,
you might as well hold up your arm all you
musk style. I am pro cro you have.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
You're really going off on one today? Do we think
break that drive?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I thought you were just angrily t boning the on
the sidewalk.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
That's how we like to do it.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, we have to get out. I'm very excited for
our guests on this note.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I know this is going to be so good. Well,
we're only at thirty eight minutes. Yes, we really, just
for editing sake, could use five Oh okay, I could
sweeze out five more minutes. Absolutely, imt just drive a
little more.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Well, sometimes we don't end enough. I think it's very
appropriate for us to give the final words as you
parallel park. But you can save that for the air
very end. Okay, you're very good at parallel park.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Thanks someone. I appreciated this machine inside this car? Does
it for me? Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yes, yes? What with the cameras?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Mm hmmm, the lines?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I know my next car, I get it's gonna have
that camera, but I think I'm gonna ignore it. I
just love undoing my belt, throwing my right arm around
the passenger seat and wrenching my neck, just.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Really trying to get it done.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
You know all those tips where they're like if you're
trying to you know, if you're trying to park a car,
what you do is you pull up parallel to the to.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Its rear view mirror. Yes, like do you know all
those tricks?

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I you know? Nowadays, I'm so damn good at it.
I don't even I can. I can drive past the
car and just crank it one hand. I never mess up.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
You never.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
People can be watching, Yeah, they can be like watching
with their arms crossed. Let's see you do this one.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You can do it in front of a restaurant, a
restaurant patio filled with disbelieving Yes.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Can I forward and make turns and still summoned conversation?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I cannot.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
It's hard.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's where you come in, m h. I. But if
you need me to park.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Who all over it?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Instinctual not There's no rules to the way you park.
It's just a feel, yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, I In fact, I put a blindfold on.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I just hear the sound of the engine, how it
bounces off the car waiting for me, and I can
tell distance from there.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
And can you do that? Do you think?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
In a busy city as well as a suburban metropolis, the.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
More pressure the better, the more chaos in the streets.
There could be fireworks and Molotov cocktails. I will be
six inches from the curb, and granted, the other cars,
their bumpers will be mutilated, very aggressive.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Many say that's what they're for.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I'm not saying it's going to be pretty. I will
slide against the other car. I do damage, and I
don't leave.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Notes d me.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
She'd say, I don't hurt birds and I don't hurt cars.
I don't know why I'm doing this character today.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
I feel like this is a character.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Well we can call him violent Bill, and it's just
you getting it out of your system that you are
going to hurt some birds and you are going to
crash some cars.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, I'm like that. I'm like the guy, the Mayhem
guy from those insurance commercials.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh yeah, I love that guy. He was on lawn Order.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, he's not a good actor, but he's good in
those commercials.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
He's a good actor in the way of the one
thing he does.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's really amazing how I've seen him not be good.
He was in thirty Rock, and I'm like, get him
back in the commercials. He's great in those.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I told you about my dad telling me that Kevin
Costner was his favorite actor, and I was like, it is,
and then he goes, yeah, although I don't really believe
it when he says stuff, it's not funny.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Everyone's dad. My dad had such a problem with Kevin
Costner his whole life. And then all of a sudden
one day is like, I like this guy, Yellowstone. Don't
you remember how you yelled at your top of your
lungs the time I asked to see tin Cup a
movie I still haven't seen. Out of his old honoring
his old hatred. Now he loves him. That's the power

(38:25):
of Yellowstone.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, Yellowstone really is.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
It's gonna make you love Costner and move to Bozeman,
buy a cyber truck and drive around with a dead
deer on it.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Montanan's I don't know if that's the phrase. But are
they proud Yellowstone?

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh? The park?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, the show.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
They're proud of the part, but not the show. But
so many people have moved there because of that show.
It's staggering. I can see it in especially a place
like Bozeman, where it's really the convergence of like, hey,
there's money here. These are the most beautiful mountains. It's
a town of sixty thousand. You can buy a house,

(39:07):
and it is so much wealth there. Oh yeah. I
did shows with Todd Berry and we went to Great Falls,
which is old school Montana. People still wearing pajamas during
the day outside and then.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
That sounds like cod covid habit.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah. And then Bozeman was like people were dressed to
the nines. Oh, I see Sarah Vowel was there. Remember
Sarah Vowel, the author right, Yeah, and it was very
fun to talk to because I was like, I remember
you repeatedly being on Letterman. Yeah, her and her sister

(39:47):
were there and they were really fun.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
But yeah, people have money in Bodland and other parts
of Montana. They didn't move there because of Yellowstone, like
the parts where they actually shot it. Butte, Montana still
home of Evil Knievel is a no like mostly empty buildings.

(40:13):
I worry about Butte so much. He used to be
this mining town that was like a million people used
to live in.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I'm sorry, though, were you trying to say that Evil
Knievel's still alive?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
No, he has died, and so I believe has Robbie,
his son.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I mean that's what I was saying, is you said
that home's home of still home of Evil Knievl Where
I was like, is this an announcement that.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Like April passed, but his birthplace has remained the same?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I see a lot of times cities don't die with
the people that were born in them, right, Yeah, that
just happens when we die.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yes, uh yeah, there's it's uh yeah, there's a wild
movie that I bought one time. Opening for Paul Thompkins
we went to Walmart. I can't remember why, and there
was an Evil Canevil movie for ninety nine cents. Oh,
I bought all twenty of them as gifts. And it
starts George Harrison, the man who was always ten. Oh yeah,

(41:16):
And they actually shot it in Butte, Montana. But the
Liberties apparently, according to this movie, you would be driving
around because you just robbed a bank to then take
the money and give to the poor. They said, that's
what the evil Canievel used to do. Now and then
all the cop cars kept dropping into sinkholes. Maybe that happened.

(41:38):
It is a mining town, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
It sounds kind of like a weird dream that the.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Weirdest movie that just made up things that don't exist.
But they actually shot it in Butte.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Is this Greg?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
It is Greg? Look at him? Giant. You just looked terrific.
Look at you. Look at that sweat.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Get in here?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, come on, it's so organic.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Sh sorry, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
But we're gonna start the next episode you've been listening
to Do You Need a Ride?

Speaker 4 (42:12):
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Speaker 2 (42:22):
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Speaker 3 (42:25):
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Speaker 2 (42:28):
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Speaker 3 (42:30):
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Speaker 2 (42:32):
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Speaker 3 (42:34):
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Speaker 1 (42:36):
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