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June 16, 2025 61 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you leaving?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I you wanna way back home?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Either way, we want to be there.

Speaker 4 (00:10):
Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
time and aid, termino and gage.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
We want to send you off instarle.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
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(00:49):
need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you
need to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you
need to ride? Do your need to ride?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?
This is Chris.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Fairbanks and this is Karen Tilgareth.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We're back with the episode that we advertised last episode.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
For the first time only, we did a future tease
to a guest because we said we need you audience
to do your homework. Listen to the podcast Valley Heat,
get to know the guests it's about to come. So
when this week comes, you're going to be all butterflies
and giggles excited for it a Beatles esque way.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
For this guest.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
We are about to validate that feeling in your stomach
right now because that guest is currently here. Put your
ears together for everyone. For Christian Duguey, whoa so when

(02:07):
I announced you, all of a sudden you're Richie Balansuela.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, well, it's like, actually that was that was kind
of halfway between Richie and uh and shake it up.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh yeah, kind of like what was what was I singing?
Was it?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
It was the perfect combination because and we don't get
dinged by the Beatles or by Regie.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Yeah, you're just kind of like celebration.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Into Yeah, you don't get sued if you combine dose
Lobos with fabulous.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
There's more than do there's lows.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Whenever I think of that Beatles song, I only think
about Matthew Broderick singing it in a parade.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh yeah, it's true, and then people start doing backflaps.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
If you watch that movie back, it's like there no
one knows that it's being filmed. It's actually the parade,
and people are just staring the entire time, the entire crowd.
I can't believe. Was that like those guys that are
doing that wild duck dance that Yeah, that's when the
movie kind of turned.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
For me when that happened and you said, wait a second,
there's no plot to this movie.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
What it was doing?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
This isn't real, He's not sick.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
What's happening.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I remember being too stressed out to enjoy the parade
scene because I knew their car was being taken for
a joy ride.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yep, you were thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yes, it was an anxious child. It was the trouble
coming when I was a kid. All I had nightmares
about viscosity and thermal breakdown in your car's engine.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
And you knew there's no way to reverse miles on
the car.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
That's totally made up.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, but god.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
That what I thought about. That was the architecture of
that home. Yes, And I was like, I've never seen
anything like that.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
That is the way rich people live.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, it really is so cool. It is so cool.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, so many empty promises with that movie. This is
what high school it's going to be, right?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
And how rich is the kid? He's got like the
most expensive sampler? Yeah, yes, possible at the time.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I wanted that room. I wanted his girlfriend. I
wanted that architecture.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You want a Pulley system that would move a mannequin
when you.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, that Pulley system that the mannequin is the only
thing I can afford.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I want to be able to wear a beret like
Mia Sarah in that movie and look like the most
gorgeous girl in the world.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
But it doesn't work for everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, when berets go south quick, yeah they do.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
That was the time when you would see a movie
and everyone would think, Okay, we should all be dressing
like that, so we would all dress like in the movie.
Everyone had an overcoat like Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
In high school, I tried to.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I tried to wear Molly Ringwold outfits and I didn't
look anything like her and was not fan, and yet
I was layering and do doing belts diagonally and try.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's amazing. I would love to see a picture of
whatever those outfits look like. I have so many insane outfits.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
From the eighties.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
From the eighties, rayon shirts. Did you have a chess king?
Oh yeah, yeah, yep. They had parachute pants and rayon shirts.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yep. There was a lot of design back then.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Because when like I'm on TikTok and I'm on a
lot of like eighties nostalgia TikTok's world, they'll just run
like they'll just put out like a depeche Mode song
and then it'll just be like pages from seventeen magazine,
and it's like they're the outfits and the patterns and
the pattern combos and the it's like you were for girls.

(05:44):
You shopped at the limited you have you had to
wear a tank top, a shirt, a knit vest, a
belt over the vest, a blazer over all of that.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Like it was wild.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
It was like they're making fun of fashion.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
It was all sarcastic, but we didn't know that. We
were just buying it.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I find that when I dance, most of the moves
I learned from Molly ring Wild in Breakfast Club. I
do the arms, I do that, yeah, but I'm not
doing the I should be, you know, pumping my arms
and dancing like estimate.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
That was a weird dance that he did. He didn't
make a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's really, to this day a little off putting.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
It was a jock dance, and jocks are off putting.
They can't dance. Yeah, they want to beat like nerds up.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
It was like a track kind of dance, like he
was doing track and dancing.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, that may have just been bad direction, Sorry, John Hughes,
but he's like dance like you also wrestle and play football.
So it's like, I guess I'll flex and pump my arms.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, true to the character.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, but it was not to the rhythm of the
song that was playing.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
I do have to.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Say that the scene where Emili west of his and
the goth nerd girl or the weird girl yeah together
Ali she is Alison is one of the most like
it was so touching and romantic, Like as a fourteen
year old watching it, it's just like the job can

(07:11):
be nice.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
They're so great.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
But he was so good.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, he was just so believable. Yeah. Yeah, that's a
great movie. It was really that was another movie. It's
like this is what high school's man be. Like, I'm
going to go to detention and everyone's going to accept
me there.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
My dad's going to be like, we won't toll losers
in this family, and it'll burn you with cigar.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Also when wait, it's the amalgamation of.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
All the worst dads.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
One's in cabo ones burning you with cigars.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Jesus my mom.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
So my parents used to watch on Sunday nights Ciskel
and Ebert.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
It would be Siskel and Ebert and then I think
Entertainment Tonight.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
So we had this kind of like block of appointment
TV that we always wanted.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I loved it so much.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
And sixty minutes would be when you knew you're it
was too late to do your book report.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, I was like, you didn't do your homework?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
All yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Sound theme makes you depressed?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Still?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh yeah, mash is the sound of me getting a
C minus?

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah for real?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Mine is Moonlighting when the movie that's so funny, I'm
failing physics.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
My parents don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
They're so happy with me right now and they're about
to find out something fucked.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Wait, what were you gonna say that? I interrupted you.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Just that in that we used to always watch ciscl
and Ebert, And the week that ciscl and Ebert reviewed
sixteen Candles, I'd never heard of John Hughes. I don't
think anyone had heard of John Hughes as far as
I knew. But that they're like, here's.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
This charming new teenage comedy. It's called sixteen Candles.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Take a look, and the clips starts to roll, and
whatever part it was, I don't I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
But I was sitting in my parents all.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Uh uh, it's at a memory alarm so much nostalgia.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
These people don't want to hear this ship.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
They don't careences But I watched like one minute of
that clip and I ran up to the TV and
I was just like, oh my god.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
And I was like, turned around to my mom and
you have to take me to this Oh my.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
God, they got you.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I was like, whatever this is, I have to see it.
I have to see it when it comes out, like,
you can't let me miss this.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
My Mom's like all right.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
So then when Breakfast Club came out, my mom took
me and my friend to see Breakfast Club because she
it was the same experiences as sixteen Candles. And she
cried at the end of Breakfast Club. And I was like, Mom,
why did you cry? And she goes, it's just so
hard for teenagers.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's so great.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh that's great, amazing, it's beautiful. What a beautiful breakfast
club experience.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Right, that's bad, Mom.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
You're supposed to be me to me, I.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Know, you're supposed to be one of these horrible to.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Be like these kids if you're so nice, She's.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Like, it's hard for you, guys.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
I just like, m M, I will be failing for
the next I think fifteen to seventeen years.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I'm going to delay any kind of ambition.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Thanks for their permission. John Hughes. Yeah, that spoke to
me a lot. I don't know why. And the sixteen
Candles did too. I win. At the end of that movie,
the hot hunk with a Porsche, all the cars move
and he's there a heart rate. But because I was

(10:41):
imagining you know whoever who Yes, at my school, I
thought he was a hunk. Oh, I just I related
to it, but I you know, I changed the characters
a little bit. But yeah, that's how I learned to dance,
and I learned to love old Ringwald. Thank you, Molly.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
She was in something recently. She was in Uh. It
was a dramatic drama. She was someone's parent.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yes, I think she's in one of those TV shows
like The Secret Lives of College Girls or something.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah. I haven't seen that something. I don't know what
it was. But she was great.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's good to see her again. I saw
it too, I can't remember. We love Molly.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
We love Molly Ringwoll, We love her success. Her father
is a blind jazz musician. That's cool. What Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Speaking of jazz, yeah, Christian, how are you?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna think of a jazz story.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well are you a jazz you went you're a jazz guy, right?

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean I had to study jazz in music school
because when I wanted to studying guitar, the only place
place you can do it was that Juilliard or Berkeley
and it was either classical or Yeah. I did get
into jazz, but it's it is something that I think
you have to force yourself to get into right, and

(12:15):
then some people don't ever get out and then they're kind.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Of jazz wormhole. Yeah, it's the ketamine of music. Have
you do upon But much like a vacuum cleaner, the
mash theme or the jazz gives me an anxiety when
it's on, like I gotta get my life together and

(12:39):
the music.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Is that what it makes you feel? Like when you
hear it, you feel why is that?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah? And I'm not talking, I'm it's the flippy toe
jazz that my mom less news on headphones about the headphones.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
So what does it bringing up for you that you
feel that way?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
My heart?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'm okay, okay, but.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
No, if if someone's like here's Miles Davis or a culture.
I get there's certain I'm not saying all jazz.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, but they're so good that you feel like, how
come I can't do anything?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, No, it's the it's the it's much like you know,
I can appreciate the musicianship of someone like and this
is going to be so controversial, but Jimi Hendrix. I
know that he was just a guitar aficionado, but I
the sound it makes doesn't bling bring pleasant.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right, I don't. I feel the same way. And now people,
I mean, I obviously understand that he was amazing. It's
just that I think there's a lot of music from
the sixties that I can't They just can't quite relate
to it. Yeah, it's too psychedelic.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yes, So where did.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
You study music? Wow, that's great.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
It's mostly where I just spent my parents' money. And
I was terrified the whole time.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Was it like whiplash where the people were yelling at you?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
No, it was just me yelling at me. It's really
the same experience. But they're not very nice, you know. Yeah,
it can I think that it it's really detrimental to
go to it.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's like competitive like school.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, you know, it's like you get there and they're like,
you shouldn't be here, or you know, you just feel
that way.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And that's funny because I and I didn't go to
a competitive art school. I majored in art at a
normal college. But I felt like they should have been
more critical. People got rewarded just for Oh I taped
my dreadlock to this, and it's about, yeah, the society.

(14:55):
And I'm like, this guy isn't good at art. He
didn't grow up drawing his hand over and overlocked in
the basement.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
He's stoned right now.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yes, I him. And and when you had to critique
other students' art, I was honest and made people cry.
And I was trying to be I didn't know that
we were supposed to be nice, but it sounds.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Like were you yelling? Was it like a high?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I was furious the strokes alone, don't get me, don't
get me started on the paint palette. I'm sorry. Shouldn't
you be wearing the sunglasses because you're blind? That's a
lot of what I did. Uh No, I they were
just like everyone as long as you try, And.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
No, it's not. Yeah, in this so much easier we
needed more of that at my art school, like you
don't have it, you should think about a different major.
No one ever said that, but it sounds like at
your school.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
They didn't say. It was just just a feel like
I had when I went to school for guitar. The
guitar Bassed song died that year. I feel like like
it was. It was just a lot of guys with
big guitars with those f holes in them, and they
played jazz and that's just what they wanted to do.

(16:20):
But a lot of us were like, well, we want
to be like Eddie van Halen and we want to
learn something at school so we can go and be
There was this other guitar player named Steve Vi who
had studied there, and yeah, it's not something that I was.
I didn't really like it that much. But he's a

(16:40):
very he's very magnetic and he's fun to listen to
talk but like the music is like just too for anetic,
but he's so he's just so skilled on guitar. So
a lot of people went there because they wanted to
learn some music theory and get better without just being
broke and playing in a band and right, But so

(17:04):
I showed up and I had like a hot pink
guitar and they don't like that gigantic whammy bar on it. Wow,
that's quite a piece of hardware. And I would hear
that all the time.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And do still play a lot.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, Well I.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Do all the music on the podcast, so I guess
I just play. I play for the music on the show.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I didn't know that you made all that music.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
In fact, I did. I've done more music for this
podcast than I ever did before. I never really recorded
music before it. I just kind of I almost gave
it up completely.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at with art. But
I know I'll revisit it.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
You're so great. Oh thanks, Your art's amazing.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's you're not going to talk me into doing it.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
You do it.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
You gotta do it.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
If I had your talent, i'd do it every day.
Oh would you? Would you.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Every day?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's it's uh, Well, when you say you'll do it,
what does that mean? Is you are to do it?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Get up, crack your knuckles, clear your throat, and sharp
and shark and an.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Egg yolk and do the thing and put pigment in it.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
It's a you're constantly playing with eggs. Do you know
how expensive those are? What are you doing with egg.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I don't know why I handmake all my pain.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
He does tempuo. He makes tempy every morning.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
See that egg whites and mustard plant. Yeah, it's called
yellow sunset. It stinks. It's molding and it stinks. No,
it's it's I don't it's a fear of I was
better at this when I was seventeen. I could be
that way with skateboarding too, but I'm just happy to

(18:52):
be doing it at some level. But with art, I
get frustrated because I'm like, this used to be easier
for me because I used to do it all the time.
So I'm just distancing myself.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
When you say it's easier, you mean that better art?
You just the ideas or the execution of just the
drawing itself.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
And the amount of time it takes me. I used
to whip stuff out so quickly and it came easy
to me, and it's harder.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Sure is better, for sure, I mean, especially when it
comes to.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Art and doing it for a living.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
It really how they price art's they do it through?
How fast?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Was I'm afraid it is? How what's your hourly rate.
And that's an answer. I'm like, I'm not going to
punish myself because I'm getting faster the longer I do this.
What used to take me twelve hours now takes me six,
and so I'm making less money and just getting paid
what like trying to do art commercially for people?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh, I see what you mean. So you say, when
you say do it, you would be doing it as
a contractor, like you would, all right, But I never.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Wanted to do it to be like, oh, let me
see if someone will buy my paintings. Meanwhile, I'll cower
over and live in the studio apartment. And I wanted
to do Oh well.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Then you don't deserve fame exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I just wanted to make a living doing drawings things
and I did.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And you did, yeah, some stuff in uh in what
was the magazine you were? You were? You did some
stuff for us.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Slow Drawing Weekly, yes, yes, and.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Drawing and then the Fast Fast Drawers publication started coming out,
and I was like, well, well, the whole scene is
really I guess. Yeah, I like to draw like a
three toad slot.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
We should talk a little more about Christian's podcast though,
Oh I know.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
I know it's very popular. I know, And how long
have you been doing it? Has it been?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Like I've been doing it a long time, but I
haven't had a new episode in a long time. I
have these Patreon episodes, and I have not been able
to finish a new episode in once. That's one of
the problems with the show is that it's just takes.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So long yours, especially when I listen. There's a lot
of sound design. There's a lot just the one I've
worked with you on that was like, uh, oh, you
are making an audio movie.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah, it took that. That was a fun scene
to do. People love that scene so much. By the way,
if they haven't already told you.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
What was it, can you give us a teaser it was.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
It was a scene where I'm trying to I find
this car that the police think I've stolen and the
guy and I'm following it around and it turns out
to someone that I know, and I follow him all
the way up to like some pistachio farm on the
way San Francisco, and then and then I we finally
get back and I find him at.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
A burger this Burbank burger restaurant, he's at the drive
through and Chris is playing this character Jordan, and they
get into a fight.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
It's very funny.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, it was. Wait, it was about the Uh. I
wouldn't admit that's the special sauce had mustard in it, right,
I don't have mustard. Well, don't worry, because this is
just a special sauce, but it seems like there's mustard
in it. And then I wouldn't I wouldn't answer.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
And then he threatens Chris, and Chris is like, bring
it on, let's burn to the ground.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, yeah, but it is I was a karate guy, right, Yeah,
because you're a karate guy and he's a foosball guy,
and supposedly some sort of concord between there's like a
concord between.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Their their rivalry right now because of negotiations of their
parking lot. Oh, not supposed to fight. But then you
guys get into a fight, and then he gets kind
of foosball arrested, and because.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
There's supposed to be a truce between the foosball and yeah, yeah,
it's temporary truth. Yeah, where we're breaking the truth.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
And I would not listen to this podcast if I
heard this description.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
What are you talking about Well, that's because.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
They're like, I know, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
That's because we're not talking about all the folly work
you do.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yes, and when you cut ahead of lettuce in half
and then smash it together, you make it sound like
a horse.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Would you believe that the carrot sound is celery? No?

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Wow, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I've got those. I've got wood blocks for shoes.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Every episode takes place in Denmark.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
This podcast is clog heavy.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
It's very well.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's funny you say that because the sound effect library
that I usually use for some of the extra stuff,
they're always Norwegian, and so if you listen to the
crowd sounds, they're all speaking norm I can't for some reason.
They It's really one of their main exports is crowd sounds.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's great. I've always thought that would be the funnest job,
is to go into a sound studio and just punch me,
walk on gravel, go make bird noises, just be.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Do you remember that trailerly Artist that used to run
before movies that was like I think it was basically
an ad for the La Times, but they showed fully
artists at work. And one of the things was they
smashed this head of lettuce, and I was just like,
what the fuck is that for?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
What sound?

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Are you trying to tell me.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
That they couldn't show it because there's probably a horror
movie someone's brain getting smashed in. Oh maybe, yeah, lettuce
smash and heads. The lettuce is great.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
They go through a lot of lettuce in fully studios.
Some of it.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Blumhouse is just like back it up over here through
the elephant doors.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Blue Mouse just has a farmer's market in there. Lobby. Yeah,
this is the wrong let Yeah, this lettuce is better
for sex scenes.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Don't forget to grab me some celery carrots because will
mean sullary carrots.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I said that because the sound of carrot eating in
the Bugs Bunny was celery apparently, Is that true? Yeah,
he was eating mel blanks, eating celery and spinning into
a bucket.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
That's so god damn. I love Bugs Bunny. I know
that was the thing.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
And when I used to hate going to school and
be like so oppressed by the politics of like socializing
at school, then I was like, you just need to act.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Like bugs Bunny. It's like, I don't know how he
does it, but that's the goal.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah. He always he's just sort of like, eh, you know,
whatever it is, I.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Don't Yeah, it does work. Someone threatens you and he's like,
oh are you now, Like, yeah, he's kind of a
tough guy. Bugs Bunny is like he is not intimidated
by ship.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
But not by guns.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
He has shotguns, shotguns and his face and he just
sticks his fingers into.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
The very violent. It's true. There was the shotgun with
the double barrel truck. And then there was a pot
where he was just like like it was a sauna
for him. There was like a spa.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Remember he got into and shut well.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
It was so dark that to sarcastically be like, I'm
not intimidated by this witch.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Who was gonna cook him? I can't remember. I think
it was the witch, right, Oh was it witch? It
was a witch. There was a witch in it.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I think the one that would.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Jump and bobby pins would come out of her hair.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
She'd get really mad and it would be like boy, and.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
It was I don't know why. I don't remember the
bobby pins the witch one.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
But then there was also the big monster that loved
him and gave him like haircut or a massage no,
Bugs Bunny gave him a haircut and parted his hair
down the middle of that big red guy.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It was like an of mice and men kind of
thing where he was the bugs Bunny was the rabbit.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
You love him and him?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Oh, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
That's all we did every day after school.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Was Bugs Bunny? Right, yeap? What was the cartoon that
was on before you went to school in the morning.
Did you watch cartoons in the morning, Rocky and goal Winkle. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
And my dad would laugh his ass off.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
When we didn't get any of the references, and he
would be laughing at all the reference because there would
be all those kinds of like puns and stuff that
like weren't for kids, they were for the parents.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, and political references that you had no idea what
was happening.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Well, Natasha and Boris, it was a whole Cold War reference,
and of course we're.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Just like big brainwashed.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, it's like a witch and a little guy.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
But it's like, no, actually, the adults know this, this
is about Stalin or whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I think that I I just now I'm remembering.
I got dropped off at a retired couple's home that
was right by my not that close. I still had
to walk like three blocks and as a first grader,
But I watched Tom and Jerry and it was so
there'd be sword fights where like limbs get chopped off. Yeah,

(28:05):
and you could see it's like a oh, a pink
cylinder with a white bone, like it was very violent.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Or they would tie someone to a spicott and then
put them over a flame.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
A lot of torture.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, just a lot of repressed I think it had
something to do with World War two.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah. Yeah, I shouldn't have been watching that sword play.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
What about sword play?

Speaker 5 (28:34):
That's inappropriate?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Did you what else was on after school? Did you
have Gilligan's Island and Gilligan's Island and what was the
other one?

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Three's Company?

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Free Company? I actually old enough and I watched it
at night.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
At night when it was on before the superstation. Yeah,
I watched all that stuff at superstation WTB.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, this was before the superstation. This was like, well,
what's gonna happen next week? That's how Oh wow you
with Jack?

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Next week appointment TV for you? Will he act gay? Secretly?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Gay?

Speaker 5 (29:08):
Again?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Will this sexual misunderstanding? Bed?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
No, No, it's just gonna keep.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Going, will missus roper ever get any Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
That was all our jokes, oh Stanley.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Oh, and then she'd be in a big momo.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
What I don't remember, but I've been reminded from videos
on my phone is that he would break the is
that the third wall or the fourth wall and look
right into camera.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah yeah, and make a face you.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Do that face where he kind of like it wasn't
twiddling as Oh he put his pinky on its side
of his.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Mouth, yeah kind of, yeah, he did a sides. He
was a Shakespearean actor.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
He was a horned up old man.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Was he a horned up.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
That's well, because he was always like he was like,
I'm catching you guys, I was sleeping together.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
And then Jack would be like, and I.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Have to say, for the time, John Ritter played like
I'm the gay neighbor very respectfully.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
It was this idea of like that idea that that
would exist at all was blowing this guy's.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Ponds right, yes, but yes, yeah, but they did try
and make it like the normal viewpoint should be like,
what's the big deal?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yes, yes, And he was an old he was like, what.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Are you kids doing in here? There's no way you're not.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And every episode was him listening through a doors.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
There, turn that and put that in there.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
What he was not chicken?

Speaker 5 (30:43):
And yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
You gotta really stuff it in there. Give it a
little elbow.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Grease, mister roper, stop assuming and go into the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yes, oh that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
That's interesting though that he wasn't giving his wife any
sexual attention, but he was obsessed with what was going
on with Jack Tripper, with the youngsters youth.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yes, it's one of those actors that you'll see him
younger in, like The Rockford Files and some of those
older syndicated shows. I saw Rockford recently where it was
Leslie Nielsen.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh yeah, his dramatic early career.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And it was directed by Patrick McGowan, who is the
best villain in any movie I've ever seen one. Well,
first he was the guy in the Prisoner, which was
such a weird show. But he was also Edward the
Longshanks in The Brave Heart. Yes, he was so funny.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, I think, oh boy, it's hard you conjure a
face and then it kind of picks.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Remember he's he's got like this long blonde hair. He
almost looks like Peter O'Toole, and he's very svelled. He's
very gaunt. And remember when his son, his son is
gay and he hates him for being gay. And he
has a boyfriend who he's trying to appoint as a
military commander of some kind. And the guy is the guy.

(32:10):
The boyfriend says something to the king goes, who is
this man has no business talking to me or something
like that, and then he gives him some advice and
then he goes, tell me, what would you do? And
then Patrick mcgoon just pushes him out a window and
yeats him. It was the darkest moment.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Whoa.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
But also true, I mean like based on history.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, yeah, like really happened, because that was all historically accurate.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Back then, pushing someone out the window was the most
efficient whale way of feeling with a problems.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
So satisfying.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
It's almost like on the level of hanging up on
the phone with somebody, were like hanging up on someone.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
We had arcades where you could just push people.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, it's so good. Air conditioning does climate controlled rooms
have saved so many lives because windows aren't open that's right.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's true.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
They're still true.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
You don't even considered pushing someone up them.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
But we also had after school, we had Star Trek,
which I didn't like, but we would watch anyway because
we were we just didn't want to stop watching TV,
so you'd have cartoon cartoon, cartoon block. You knew when
Star Trek started that you were getting closer to like
it's the sun's going down.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, you started remembering your life again. Yes, you're like, oh,
I'm not happy.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
I got I better go grab some saltines and figure
this shit out. And then I would just sit there
and watch a show that made me uncomfortable, was stupid.
I didn't like it. And I know I have a
comprehensive knowledge of Star Trek.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
You do.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
We wouldn't stop watching it yet.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
You know all of the because I've been watching some
of them recently.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
So crazy, they are insane. What about the planet where
it's all the children.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And they're such mean kids, they're horrible.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah, so many weird things.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
All of the sets looked like they had rated other sets,
built sets.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
They did love borrowing.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I was like, we have this, we have this sort
of renaissance living room. They use it, Okay, So they
land in the.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Planet Casino planet. Yeah, there's a lot of that ship
where you're like, this is not a.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Planeteah, you didn't even try it. Have you ever been
to the what used to be the Swiss Family Robinson
treehouse at Disneyland and they without they left, Like you know,
there's like a little what are you? A place where
you comb your hair and get pretty, a bathroom, an area,

(34:46):
a vanity, there's like a big thank you. Next clue
you put them on your face. No, not a mustache,
but teeth.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
You put them on your face.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, I'm sorry, that's time.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Sorry, I know. On my grandma she puts her teeth
in a glass and then puts my monterfit and my
my grandpa when he smiled, there's a mustache. Tis Now.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
That's the version of the game show where there you
didn't get your points back if you had a good enoughication.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Just like here was my thinking is that game show?
Hero is my thing?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
What was you thinking?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Log about your twenty five thousand dollars pyramid on acid?
In this chaos they left all the Swiss Family Robinson stuff,
but then just put a figurine from Tarzan or something
they'd be like, so that you know there there's still
had the curtains and all that. They didn't even try.
They're like, ah, people will be happy they're in a tree.

(35:50):
I was really disappointed.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
It's so different.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
And then in the Pirates of the Gribbean, like they're
there used to be or Caribbean there used to be
choice like things that scared me, like a scary pirate
with an angry face chasing after a lady and pulling
our shirt and I'm like, oh I I my parents
have taught me enough to know that's nefarious. Yes, And

(36:16):
then I go back in my teenage years and she's
just got a hot, freshly baked pie and he's chasing her.
But all they did is still an angry face because they.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Have a tone. You gotta get that pie.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I'm so hungry.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
This is sailor with a hankering for bake goods.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Didn't he do one where the woman's chasing the guy?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, but the joke was he was handsome and
she wasn't anything to write home about.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
We got to be wrong about something here.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, let's focus on the chase. Well, it's not you know,
we're well, just lean into the fat cham Yeah, okay,
that's fun. People still like that.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Did you guys ever see the Star Trek where Captain
Kirk is just fighting this lizard monster on a planet
and that's the entire episode?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Is that the one with the music and he has
the stick? That's like that.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I only know how that because in a very specific moment,
and the Cable Guy not Larry, but yes I did, Jim,
not Larry but Jim Carrey. He does. There's some I
don't remember when there is a fight scene where they
use that music and he foldings all the sound effects

(37:36):
with his mouth and I love that guy. Yeah, it's
that's that's another movie that's worth watching it again.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Cable Guy.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, I think they're going to show it at that
theater show. Oh really yeah, Cable Vista.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yes, finally went there to watch Friendship.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's where I saw it.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
What's Friendship?

Speaker 2 (38:01):
It is Tim Robinson Paul Rudd in a very strange
but hilarious movie. Yeah, it's worth it.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
It's one of those movies you watch where you're like, oh,
I should write a weird script.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah yeah, I could get away with this.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, it doesn't need to be perfect. Just put some
great people that.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Are likable in it and get it going, get it going.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
If you had to, Christian, if you have to recommend
a movie, what's your first movie that you recommend to people?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
It comes to mind that is really well. I really
love what about Bob I do.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
It's a movie. I saw that in the theater.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I love it. I watch it maybe once every a
couple of months. It just makes you laughing. Now. I
just know it back to back right.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah. For me, it's Arthur. I make people watch it.
Oh yeah, yes, I love Some Cross.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That is a fun movie. I loved that movie when
I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
So funny.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think it is like something my dad made me
watch over and over, like pay attention to this joke. Yeah, listener,
Sir John Gielgood, he was just John Geelgood back then.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Before What about you Ka? What would your yeah movie?

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I mean, I think if it was like a fast one.
I like to imagine situations where people ask you for
recommendations right now, so it be I would be pressed.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Think it would be Ama daeis I do.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I love that movie.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
It's such a like whole thing that happens, and it's
very rich and kind of like what more could you want? Yes,
and it's I don't know. I can watch that movie
over and over, like I was.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Great, and then he was like a drug wayward drug
son in Parenthood. But what happened to him?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I wonder that a lot.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Yeah, he was like a Broadway guy.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I know people that took act lessons from him in
New York City or maybe his husband. I think he
like did theater and then but just ultimately kind of retired.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
For that's my He was also in uh Dominic and
he was in a movie with Ray Liota where.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Oh, where he was like mentally ill.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, oh he was, Yeah, he was like he was
like mentally paired somehow.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I can remember what it was nice and.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
It was called it was called Dominic and Eugene.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
I think, yes, yeah, he's a good actor.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
He is great. Ama Das is funny because it was
I saw it when I was in music school and
it just made me so depressed because it was like
I felt like Saliary, Yeah, we're all that guy.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
We're all fucking Saliary. There are very few Ama Dasses.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
That's kind of how I always felt in stand up,
where it'd be like every night, I'd be back in
the back wringing my hands together and being.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Like, you're not that good.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I can't get good.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
You're not that good.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
I Meanwhile, people are just destroying the Oh God, why
can't I have it?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
And that's funny because I was thinking of he was
in this movie called slam Dance Too, and he made
oil paints with he made temper of paints. I think
that's how I knew how Tempera paints were.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Making really is that he makes.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Them with an egg yolk at the beginning of.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
It and mustard plant.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Maybe Tempera paints related to the food.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well, it's I think it must have a reference to
egg of some kind. I don't know. I don't know
really remember what the movie.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Maybe the I think the reason where it is because
with eggs, much like wet paint, it is temporary because
it's about to become a picture or an omelet.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Okay, just.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
In this trash, we'll get your podcast. Keep these pants,
get in their naked Hey, Christian, what was the sometimes
on this podcast people do their jokes. You had a
when I very first met you. It was we just
were on a show together at some brewery and you

(42:21):
had a you had a I had just seen Ghosts
of the Musical, which I've raved about a ghost the musical, Yeah,
the movie ghost and I at first I was laughing,
I like a child, because they'd be just talking and
then all of a sudden start singing. But then I
loved it because of the practical visual effects of like

(42:44):
you know, when the ghosts take the guy away, they
project They projected ghosts on a mesh screen in front
of the stage or in the foreground, and what and
so they all these layers of action. Whoever put that
show together visually was amazing and it was his his
later work.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
This was racing.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
But what was your new kid converse? Do feel comfortable
conversationally doing that joke?

Speaker 5 (43:14):
But also do it in a show voice?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yes, yes, you think, Hey you guys, I love this guy.
He was the guy that says, hey you guys, I love.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
An audience member. Honey, I'm so glad we sat up front.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Hey you guys.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
I don't remember what the joke. What was? It was
a drug about musical, right, it was so it was
like it was it was, but I don't remember the
problem with every joke is how do you get into it.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
It's like, how do you get into a joke?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I can't believe I did the thing that everyone does
on an airplane or a chair lift. And I'm like, oh,
you're a comedian, tell me a joke.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
But yeah, I'll help you.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Get into it.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
We'll give you kind of an opener, a soft opener
to that, and then you can kind of trampling your
way to the actual material.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Okay, Okay, So and I'm in on this too.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
How about it's a how about you start with a
little local work.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
So we'll say you're in Omaha, right right? Yeah, how
you guys doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, it's good to be here.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
There's hardly any people here.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
We're here immediately.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
You don't count.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Okay, now we're in your joke.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Ready, go hey you guys. Ever, notice that would be
really funny to set up you guys, ever, notice how
I set up this joke? What was it? It was
like it was it was about how musicals are, like
they're they're not songs, they're every every line of dialogue

(44:45):
is song. It was from Ley Miz And it was
like you came into my house and you asked me
for walt to when I told you my own drink
tea Like that wasn't a song?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yes, okay, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
The normal Yeah that, And I don't remember how it
was set up.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
It was set up by slamming people.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
From omaha, Oh that's what it was.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
No, you just did it.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I don't remember that in a weird, convoluted way. I
do this with a lot of things. I was just
trying to get you to sing. You have a good
singing voice. Yeah, I remember seeing you do that joke,
and I'm like, not only was that funny, I think
this guy has a million musical theater background.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I remember one of the problems with the joke was
does it sound like I'm trying to be a good
singer in this right?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I do remember quietly accusing you of that in my
head way to showcase your other talents.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Double threatening everybody, these triple threateners.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Why don't you do a little dance too, you guy?
How do you start to let you know he's a
good dancer? To how do we start?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
How do you start shows? When you do stand up? Like,
how do you start them? Will you go out and
you go what do you what do you say?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Well, first I fumble with the mic stand something. I
still I still can't figure out why it's there. I'll
pull it out and hopefully the chord comes out of
the mic, and then I go fuck. And then I
sat at aside never to use it again. Yes, why
can't we just be handed a mic?

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I always. I always had trouble with putting the mic
back into the thing.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
At the end aftward, like I still do.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's like still part of the show, and I'm up there,
like trying to put the mic click clack.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
All of a sudden, it's like there's all these extra
noises that you're like, do everybody, did anybody ever go
to the grocery store?

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Clock clungk client clumb to the grocery store? You ever?

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Guys A real loud guys as you're trying to hold
the thing and fit the thing the thing.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
My favorite is where a joke falls flat and then
the comic goes, ah, what.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Else and what else? What else?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
What else?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
What else? And if I say what else? I would
go into a tailspin in my head and forget every joke.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
My friend Kiaren Edison was the She was the host
when Jimmy Walker came and played the San Francisco improv.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
When I first.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Started me JJ Walker.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
And he in between every one liner, he would then
go much to talk about, much to discuss, and much.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
To talk about, much to discuss, every single time.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
So she would say it all like it became a
thing she had to say, so funny, much.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
To talk about, much to discuss.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Much to discuss.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, there there's there's this a comic named Dusty Sleigh
that I watched. Uh yeah, he wears trucker hats and
uh he is funny. It's great jokes. But he in
between jokes was doing we're having fun. This is a
good time. We're having fun, he said between almost to

(48:06):
it's like, Okay, he's doing it too much. But then
he kept he laid into it even more. He'd say,
we're having fun. This is good, We're having fun. This
is a fun time. Oh, he's not gonna And then
I started really laughing at it, you know, like when
something goes on too long and you think it should stop,
and then it keeps going and then everyone laughs on purpose.

(48:28):
I don't know, and I think so. So I'm on
the fence between I don't know and I think so. Uh, yeah,
it's Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Are you doing it a lot? Are you doing a
lot of stand up lately?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
No one is it's dead?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Was it dead?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I've been midlife crisis, skating in the mornings, skateboarding, helping
my comedy career.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
No, I mean, is helping you in your state of mind?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, totally, but no. I do stand up once or
twice a week, sure, but sometimes I'll go a whole
month and I'll realize suddenly, Wow, I haven't done stand
up all month, and I have to go. I'm being
paid to do shows in this other city and I
have to shake off the rest. And so I would

(49:17):
like to be doing it more often, but I honestly
it's a product of me in doing life a little more.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I haven't done it in.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I want you to, but I'm someone that always wants
other people to do.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I want to until it's time to do it, and
I'm like, I definitely.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Then you just lose the will to live and you're like, oh,
you call up and you're like, sorry, I broke my ankle.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I'm sorry that I was having a fantasy that I
was going to do that.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Old me does not represent future me, which is now
present me.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
At all.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Yeah, get me out of this fucking shit.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, I know. I like the person you've become. I
mean both of you. Yeah, that goes for both of you.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
It's just my less comment.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yes, yeah, no, I like you you old you and
knew you. Both of you had good and bad parts.
I like the new news a majority of each of you.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
As the new person, we're doing our best.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
But the old you, Christian was just a comic that
I enjoyed watching. But then you now I enjoy it.
I'm not fishing, but do you want to go with me?
If I do?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Go?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
What fishing?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, I'll go fishing. Where what are we fishing for?

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Compliments?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
The water is fine? And then the hook pulls me
out of the car naked in the trash can I uh?
I'm my point, my, it's good to good to have
you here.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Oh thanks, that was the point. Yeah, the point is
I like you.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
I meant to tell you earlier, seven years earlier.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
How did you get involved with that show Ridiculousness, which
is to my two worlds, comedy and skateboarding. It was colliding,
it was.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I was in the grounde at the time when I
got into reality TVs. We had kids, and I write
a job and then I ended up doing it for
like fifteen years. Great, and before I knew it, I
was producing a clip show.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, so at Skateboarder. That's about my age that I
grew up watching Rob.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Yeah, I don't tell me about ridiculousness.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
But I'm telling you about I'll tell you he was
in these skate films that were really important to me.
That weren't. I mean, all of his video parts had
like Dinosaur Junior, and so they give a false sense
of I didn't know he was like more of a
hip hop guy.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Later, but all of a sudden he became this based
on gimmick or a bit. They did four escape video
where he brought his own security guard in case he
got kicked out of a Yeah, and that.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Was I think that was Reuben Fleischer. I think was
directing that. That was his idea, if it was Rob's idea.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Wow, Yeah, And that turned into it's just so big.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
And I lived in that house for a while. I rended,
you're killing I rented it for some price that I
would not be able to actually live in the house.
For what it costs to live in that house, I
was renting it for maybe half, like three thousand a month.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Shit, that's insane.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, it was crazy. He was filled with rats. No really,
it was like I have so many terrible stories where
I like would catch a rat and then I wouldn't
know what to do with the rat. There was all
this what by the one time there was this rat
in the kitchen, it was you do know what the
house looked like, right, It was just kind of an

(52:59):
open space.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
And so the kids were maybe seven at the time,
they're twins, and there were like five levels to this
weird presure type house, and the kitchen was on the
top level. And there's this rat that kept getting into
the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
A rat, Yeah, you saw all that time.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Well, I would hear him and I knew it was
a rat because there were rats that would die in
the traps. So I was like, oh, I got to
get that rat. And so I went up, thinking you're
not going to get the rat, You're just gonna scare
it away. So I hear it in the sink, and
I go up and I grab a you know those swiffers, Yeah,

(53:40):
just a river swiffer, and I grab it and I
and I see it and I go for it, and
I bring it down and I have the rat under
the swiffer. So now last thing that I wanted was
to have that rat. And then my son comes upstairs.
It's like six or seven. He's like, what do you have?
I'm like a bug. He goes let me see, and

(54:03):
he comes up and go, don't come up here. I mean,
I scared the hell out of him. I've never seen
him stop so quickly. I still feel terrible for it.
And what happened?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
How did you get rid of it?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I put it. I kind of brushed it back into
the little vent that he came out of, and they
would push there was this little vent under this island
and they would push it out just so.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
It was more of a as you were.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
So I might have heard him. I don't know, but
I thought about it for a long time.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
There's no way.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
They're like, they're like again, you know, it's like we
put traps and sometimes I'm just dying in the wall
for some reason.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Yea everywhere.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
God, yeah, And there was a level.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
There was so much drainage when it rained that there
was two or three inches of water in the entryway
every rainy And I got one of those water backs
and I would suck it all up.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Never so, was Rob living there at the time.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Or no, No, I was just he had moved out
and had okay, needed someone to rent it.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Was it in like Santa Clarita or something.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
No, it's right up in the the hills there off
a bar um.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Oh wow, that's crazy. You know. Ruben Fleischer directed The
Girl's Guitar Club like short film.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
And it was like he was just kind of around
and was like, hey, you guys should do a thing,
and it's like sounds good and then he's just like
one of the biggest directors there is, so like that's cool.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Wow, he's the best. I love that man.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Did he do stand up or am I thinking of
a different Fleischer?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
No, but he did a he did a you need
a storytelling?

Speaker 4 (55:56):
You're thinking of Charles Fleischer, the voice of Roger rabbites.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I saw him do stand up once.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
Great stuff, right, I.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Mean I don't I was so young and I wanted
to do stand up.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
And You're like, I can't do this many voices.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, it's like you would do all these voices and
it was that do you guys know that there was
another improv in Santa Monica. Yes, and back in like
the I think it was like the early nineties. I
moved here and I wanted to do stand up and
you would go to the improv in Hollywood or whatever

(56:34):
it is, LA and then they and then you would
sign up. In a month later, you would go to
the Santa Monica one yeah, and it would be packed
really for an open mic.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
And it was downstairs, right, it was like.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Upper yeah, yeah, you went downstairs and so I signed
up and then I I didn't practice stand up, was
just like, oh, you go to an open mic and
you do stand up. So I wrote jokes for like
a month and I got there and it was packed,
and just before I called my name, It's like, I'm
not doing this.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Well, yeah, you were protecting your future feelings. Now I
could have gone south and then you would have never
your whole life, what have You'd be just playing guitars
with Steve Vai Right now. I'm glad, Yeah, I'm glad.
I'm glad.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Christian. Did you have anything you want to plug or
talk about?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Well, I'm gonna try speaking of stand up, I'm trying
to do I'm doing a live Valley heat at a house.
It's like fifty or sixty seats. It's free. It's like
a it's like a dry run of a show for
Largo at the end of the summer. Oh great, but
I don't know if there's any tickets left. It's on

(57:47):
June twenty eighth.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
And have you chosen the house yet or just yeah,
it's someone's.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
It's like this house that he does like a lot
of events and like a lot of fundraisers and stuff.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
So maybe people could aim for the Largo show in August.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
They could, Well, I don't know when that's going to be.
But so I'm plugging something that doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Right, That's what I've been doing it for years. That's edgy. Yeah,
and that's again, look for me in the next major movie.
I'm plugging something that doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm going to be touring, touring with
the show in a few years.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
I'd like to plug the Christian and I are going
to dust off the bowling balls and go bowling.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah we do need to bowl, Yeah we do. You
still have your ball?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
I do, It's in storage, but I'll pull it out.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
I love bowling if you want to invite me.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Oh wait, this is one thing I wanted to say it.
So I have this idea for a podcast, right, yeah,
your podcast, maybe think of it. But it's you record
a support call. Every episode is just you talking to
like an insurance representative, right Or they say you're recording.
You say, well, I'm recording to and this is a podcast.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
But you could have a guest also, yes, oh that's great.
Is it great or not? It probably isn't. I mean,
none of us are ever going to do.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
It depends on.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Because I can remember the times where I've called support
and gotten people who actually helped me and were nice
to me. And it would be so fun to be
able to re listen because there was a woman one
time and I can't. It was insurance. It was something
very dense, and I was like absolutely overwhelmed and I
couldn't handle myself on the phone because I would get
someone and I'd be like, yes, sing, I'm trying to

(59:31):
and then I would like cry or would you like
way too emotional and people are just like ma'am.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, ma'am, this is too much for me.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Maybe and then this lovely lady who sounded like she
was from South Carolina, where she's like, oh, honey, I've
been through this before.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
And I was like, she's here, and she fucking solved.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
It, called me honey four times and like truly cured me.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
I love those. And then you you go through the steps. Yes,
I do actually want to give this person a positive review. Yeah, yes, yeah,
I think that what you just described as just a
funny joeybe.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
It's funny in yeah, in theory, but really it would
be like being on a hill.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Well good, And I said, Okay, if I record this,
I'm recording. Also, this is a podcast. That's so there
you go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
And then you start calling jails. Where else do we
get recorded on the phone? Shtch out some ideas?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah, do you have to tell you this call is
being recorded? You are being recorded?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
No, you are you? I am welcome to my podcast.
Are you wearing a wire? Everyone's recording on their own.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Yes, it's the podcast quality assurance.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Oh I like that. Okay, we're gonna work shot, we
have to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Yes, Yes, Christian Dugay one of the great Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Thank you so much for having me here. Y.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, I think you're okay too. You've been listening listener
another Southwestern themed episode of d y n a R.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
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Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
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Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
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Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
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