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To see Sports Radio Network. What is all. Everybody welcome
in size studio. This is Doc Jock. He's Dr Mitchell Rosalind.
I am Greg Susman. Doc. Game five tonight between the
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Raptors and the Warriors. Is it over? If you're a
Toronto fan, you hope really it is, and you know
it's you know, I guess Durrant's gonna go. And one
of the things that we've talked about, um, is that
this injury looked really, really unusual for me from the start,
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in the fact that he pulled up like somebody who
kind of got shot, and it was always very very
low and you know, the calf connects to the Achilles tendon.
Obviously he doesn't have a pint achilles tendon, but this
was a very very low, low, strained down on the
tendon level. Um. Now he's gonna go, and I think
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he has to go. UM, And you know, I guess
the theme that we're seeing a lot in sports is
you always have what's called reversion to the mean, which
is if you do things long enough, things ordinarily just
sort themselves out. And what we're seeing is all of
us get captivated by what we see and how great
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the Warriors are playing without Kevin Durant. But then you
kind of have to take a step back and kind
of common sense, which sometimes we're all lacking, including myself,
and realize that this is arguably the best basketball player
in the world. There's not a team, whether it's in
Rutger Park or in the NBA, that's going to be
better without Kevin Durant. And you know, we're seeing everybody
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kind of revert to that, to that mean, and they
desperately need them. We're seeing that in the Yankees coming
back to Earth. You know, Fo, your solo is not
gonna win the Triple Crown, much to the chagrin of
many New Yorkers. And you know, when you're missing Judge,
you're missing Stanton. You know, these guys can do it
for a certain amount of time, but they're going to
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revert to the mean as well. And we're seeing that,
you know, without Durant, Golden State kind of reverting. You know,
I thought that Portland would test their depth. I was
dead wrong, but I thought that we would see that
there's a reason why Cook and McKinney don't play big minutes,
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and that Portland would have ten people to make them
play when minutes and that would be much more of
a series than it was now. I think we're seeing
the net effect of Toronto being able to do that.
And yes, they have some of the greatest players in
the world, but there's a reason why their second string
is the second string. Yeah, you know, the bench for
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Golden State. We talked to this last week. It's relatively
lacking because of the money they had to pay to
their stories and Clay and Draymond and Durant and Curry
into Marcus Cousins and andre Iguadala. There's those six guys
and everybody else. You're looking at minimum guys when you're
touting Jonas Jarevko as a guy you can count on.
And Sean Livingston is included in one of the better
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bench players, but Quinn Cook McKinney, so he Livingston is
a you know kind of Livingston was a really good
bench player when he came over the nets of the
first year, but as or at least in this series
where you really need shooting and spreading the court, that's
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not his game. He's a post up, absolutely, He's a
post up slashing god. And what's happened in this series is.
You know, essentially they're Garden, Stephan and Curry in the
parking lot. Okay, they basically tell Van Fleet, who deny
him the ball? He's played. He showed, you know, the
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amount of energy it's taken for him to get the
ball and still hit the long range shots has been
absolutely incredible. But you know it's it's gonna sound really hard, strange,
but he's had to work to scores forty points and
really really work to get the ball. They basically kind
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of allowed Draymond Green to go down the middle and
challenged him to finish over their length, but taking away
the pass from him, and he'd much rather pass than finish.
And to be perfectly honest, Nick Nurse has coached a
brilliant series and it's it's funny he's known as an
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offensive innovator, but really what I've seen is him coach
a great defensive series. And I'm sure it helps that
most people believe that, you know, Leonard or Draymond Green
are the two best defensive players in the world, So
having Kawai Leonard to build your defense around, who is
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just an unbelievable all around player, I think, you know,
I have to admit I guess I forgot how good
he was. I'm looking at their um assistant coaches, Patrick Matumbo,
jim Son, Eric Corey, none of which really stand out
to me as defensive stalwarts. And and Nick Nurse does
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deserves all this credit, both on the offensive side of
things and the defensive side of things. It's been a
brilliant series for him. And it's remarkable. Maybe we can't
do this, but just looking back, they were on the
brink against Philadelphia a bounce and they win down to
nothing against Milwaukee, and they went fourth straight and now
here they are three oneting. It's defending champions. It's unbelievable. Well,
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you know, it's it's it's there may be something to
match ups, you know, No, no, there's definitely some matchups. Yeah.
That when you really kind of think about it, is
that both Milwaukee and Philadelphia are very long teams. Okay,
where is And you know again, I expected, you know,
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Portland to be able to do that to some extent
with them, and but they weren't. The length of Toronto
has really bothered Golden State immensely, really really really has um.
And you know it's interesting that you ask how how
that happens well Golden State. You know, Curry's not a
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true point guard in terms of the way they play. Basically,
he wants splits the ball backed out to to him.
The ball moves, Yes, he pulls up better than anybody
I've ever seen on the fast fast break, but they
don't really have a penetrating type of God that dishes.
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That's that's Draymond Green definitely on on on on that
type of thing. So if you can get them into
a half court game and Durant is not on the floor,
that's where they miss Durant because when everything breaks down,
Durant has the length to shoot. Now, i'd expect that Durant.
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I have no idea what else he'll be able to do,
and I guess they are going to have to play
him against Cassoule or play him against a Baka, which
I think Abaka is gonna be a tough, tough matchup
because he seems to have rejuvenated over the last few
few few games. And again, if I'm Toronto, I would
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play a Baker in the quicker spreads because I think
that would make Durant have to run a lot more
than God. In mal Casol who's a great passer. But
and you know then doing that. But here, I actually
think that you could probably take Kevin Durant out of
retirement with his feathery jump shot. I still think he'll
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get twenty six, you know, you know type of deal.
And I think that he can just shoot over everybody,
which really can change the game and potentially open things
up for the clay and and Curry. Since you off
the air, that for me what I would do if
I was Nick Nurse, that was rats, go right at
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Kevin Durrett, see if he can move, see what he
can be on the defensive end. And you said it's
hard to do that, And I think this is what
the difference between you know, I've been privileged to spend
a lot of time around coaches to understand how coaches
think and talk. So you know, the first thing is
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you have to go into your locker room and coaching
his leadership. You are one game away from the championship
playing the way you played. You know, that's one of
the problems the difference between fans and coaches. Coaches always
believe you dance with the girl that brought you. If
we're good enough to do this we're not going to
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change the way we're going to play. So let's think
of what that means. Okay, that essentially means they're not
going to put durant on why Leonard okay, right? Who
they play through? Okay, So that means you now, and
that means you're going to take somebody like Serjebaka, who
is you know, he is an acceller, you know, an
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accessory player, meaning that he hits his shots, he rebounds,
he blocked shots. But if you stop playing through Sergebaka,
you're going to have problems definitely. Okay, So why would
you go ahead and do that? Because that's what it
means doing. Aren't you better off saying we're the best
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team in the world and we're going to play through
Kauai Leonard okay, and we're going to make a Baka
crash the boards and we're gonna make a a ruin around.
But I'm not gonna change, you know, changing there's some
sort of stubbornness to that, though, not exploiting the other
team's weaknesses, you know, I see it like when when
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baseball teams shift and people don't do it. I don't
see it in basketball because you want your point guard
to conduct your offense. You want things now in terms
of picking up the pace, We're gonna go quicker, you
know if we have a break things like that. Yes,
we're going to. We're going to got him at half court.
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We're gonna challenge him to drive. Yes, but I'm not
going to put my players in the position of playing
the way they don't want to play. I want I
want my ball handle is to handle the ball. I
don't want my non ball handle is to be turning
the ball over. I'm going to run my offense. I
may run it at a faster pace. I may push
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my defense out and say, you know what, I know
he can shoot over everybody. You know, I want to
guard him, let him, let him drive, you know thing.
And when Gasol's in, I may go down low a
few times and and and physically do it. But I'm
gonna want the ball in my ball handle his hand thing.
And Golden State's not going to be stupid enough to
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have him guarding one of their ball hands. No, You're
absolutely right, they won't. Kawhi Leonard's going to take over
this game here at some point, and we you know,
you go through this in in in in football or
in basketball and stuff like that. And the one thing
you never want to do is the coach is outsmart yourself. Okay,
there's a reason why you know, Toronto is here with
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Kawai Leonard and wasn't here with Larry the Rose in combination,
there's a reason why the finals have been the stage
for Lebron James over the last few years, and and
and and because you know, when the game is close
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and you need a basket, you need your stars, and
whether everybody in the world knows where you're going or not,
at the end of the day, you need people who
can make more shots that they're gonna miss with pressure on.
And when you put people in uncomfortable roles, I mean,
it's a recipe for disaster. How much do you think
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is the top price paid for a pair of court
side seats tonight on? I think that we underestimate the
size of Toronto, which is a large metropolis, and I
think there are a lot of wealthy people, so I
would tend to think that to run and and this
is an event. I mean, you you you you're you're
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really looking at it, So I think that you're looking
at higher Bob ifty thousand higher Bob thousands. I'm not
surprised that Toronto's trading at a premium. I mean, this
is the you know, I I off the top of
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my head. Um, obviously, hockey Montreal Toronto have won one championships,
but I I don't believe the Montreal Expos ever did so.
This would be the first championship in Canada for basketball, baseball,
and obviously there's no football from the Blue Jayson, the
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Toronto Yeah, the Blue Jays. You're right, you're right, You're right,
you're right. But it's been it's been that was that
was Williams Witch Williams jo caught it. I'm blanking. Mean,
it's been that long, uh three or six years uh
since a championship has been one in Toronto. And then
the Canadian even the hockey teams don't win, so so
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it's like it's been a really long time coming. Yeah.
And and you know they love the Raptors. I mean
you you watch the game, they they they they love
the Raptors and and um, you know, and there's a
lot to like. I mean they've had a hell of
a playoffs. I mean I thought that Milwaukee was gonna
be a terrible matchup for them, and they figured out
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a way to win that series in six. You know,
Philadelphia is exceptionally talented. The Canadian team has not won
the Stanley Cup since as well. Montreal Canadians, we kind
of think of them as the Yankees, you think, so right?
They have not a Canadian team has not won the
Cup since three. And Toronto, I think, you know, was
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up there in the NHL in points. I think this
year with Austin Matthews doing. You know, they they they
have the old Detroit coach and um, that's that's just
that's just startling. I guess you have to live in
Boston to win championships pretty much. It's kind of works.
Boston last one the championship about two months ago. So,
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so what do think happens tonight? I said it this morning. Um,
I have a really hard time picking against the Warriors tonight,
figuring out a way. It's funny because the most common
thing I've seen on social media is either the Raptors
win tonight or wrapping up or the Warriors win in seven.
And I don't know that the Warriors can go to
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Toronto and win twice. As you said, they get back
to Toronto. All the pressure is on the Raptors. They
don't know that they can do that. I think they
are too good. They match up to whelm Nick Nurses coaching,
too good of a series for that to happen, to
lose three in a row all of a sudden, all
of a sudden. But I think the Raptors, I'm sorry,
I think the Warriors find a way tonight. I think.
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You know, there's a part of me that completely agrees,
and this is going to sound like, you know, the
the but then I take a step back. Okay, and yes,
Durant is one of the best players in the world,
but you know, the eye test in matchups, it just
seems that it's more Toronto's looked like they've had the
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Warrior's number. You know, we really expected something. You know
that the intensity of Game four started out with the
tremendous amount of intensity, and and it just seemed as
that game war on that the Warriors weren't able to
get good shots and as soon as kind of their
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long bombs weren't falling, Toronto would pull away. And yeah,
I mean, it just seems that Toronto matches up well
with this team, and I don't think they have an
answer with Kauai. I think that Kauai and I don't
think Durant is going to change that. For some reason,
Draymond Green, who's usually been a dominant defensive player, Kauai's
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ability to you know, he's a better defensive player off
the ball because his instincts is so good, but why
makes him play on the ball. And I just think
that he's been the Kauai has been able to break
them down. I don't think Durant's gonna change that on
the defensive side. And again, I think we're so used
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to the Warriors being the best team that if we
take a step back, Toronto has really been a better
team all absolutely no doubt about it. Well, you talk
about it that the Rathers have won sixteen of eighteen
quarters or fourtune of sixteen quarters. Rather, So you know
what's interesting, Like and there's another another ridiculous thing. If
I told you one team was going to win the
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game by fourteen points, who would it be? It's the Rafters.
I never said that coming into the series. Okay, okay, now,
so so you know you think that what what you're
thinking is if it's you know, one oh three, one
oh three, the Worrior is gonna find a way to
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win the thing, Okay, but if one team just kind
kind of pulls away, just like looks like the Raptors
did in Game four, you don't expect it to be
the Warriors, and I don't either, you know, which which
makes me believe that the smart thing to say is
the Raptors, and I think they're better, you know. But
what I will say is I think that in a
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strange way, this is a must game and I'm not
saying anything fascinating for both teams because you know, you
don't want to travel across country then you have to
play games six on the road. Not that it really
bothered him. They won three and four, but if you
get into a game seven, all the pressure shifts definitely.
And that's what we said. That's totally what we said.
And it's amazing because you bring up blew out factor
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and it's like, immediately, my my thought was out of
the Warriors, right because they hit a thousand of threes
and they and they blow you away. That just it's
not from the case at all at all. Well, again,
because Nick Nurse has controlled the page outside of the
third quarter of games too, obviously, because Nick Nurse is
controlled the pay and and and and here here he is.
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The one strange thing is in the half court offense, okay,
half court offense. Usually in playoff games, the team that
has the best player on the court wins. And now
many people would say, well, they've got Curry and they've
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got Kauai Landard. The problem is is that Curry had
some amazing shots and he gets separation in unconventional ways,
but he really can't break down the defense on a
regular basis, get into the lane and dish the ball.
It seems that Kawai Lanard could either get into the lane,
take his turnaround jump shot or dish to Lowry at all, okay,
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every single time down the court. And I don't think
I don't think um Golden State has an answer to that.
Now they'll say that Igodala is hurt, and that's who
they would be putting on Kauai I landed, you know,
Draymond Green. Again, you can't keep a star on him
because the whole foul um out. You know, no one
gets fouled more than Kauai does. So I think that again,
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where if I asked you who's going to be the
best player on the court tonight. I think it's gonna
be Kawhi Leaning. I don't think you can answer anything else.
I do not think in your right mind you can,
because there's too many question marks when it comes to
the Golden State and the rules that they play. This
has been the playoffs of Kawhi Leonard and I expect
to Rant to score twenty six points. I'll say, you know,
you know, let me look at this over under. Let's
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let's do that. You expect him to score twenty points.
You can get nice odds with that. Let's find out.
I'm on the Vandal sports book right now. The Raptors
are a one point favorite over under. Tonight's game is
to fourteen and a half. Player props not on the board.
Not on the board for Kevin Durant right now? How
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many points do you think of scores tonight? Four? Okay,
you taking over of thirty and a half. What about
Kauai two? You're taking the over of thirty one and
a half. One point difference there, Clay Thompson over under
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twenty and a half, You're right, you're just a bit
under there. Anybody else you want to play um Abakabaka
points you want, you can't do that one. Try again.
I can do a Baca rebounds if you want. Really,
I think Abaka is gonna get like six. I do
have Bocke points. I found him. Sorry, you have sixteen
points in over under eight and a half. I think
Abaka is gonna play a lot of minutes. That would
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be you know, my best bet, your best I think
if Durant plays, you want the athleticism on the court,
which Abaka plays a lot of minutes. So that means
I would under Gasol and over Abaca right right now,
scores thirty seven, just playoff MV face. I just gave
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him the but but that's the way I would play.
I mean that that's I think that. Wouldn't you do that? Yeah,
I mean it makes sense. You make you make the
rent move. It's all my thought is tonight, you make
the rent move. So that's why I think abakas points
tonight because I think number one, you know, if you're
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out on the court for thirty minutes and offensive rebounds
and he hits shots, I think that him over eight
is you know, I've been I was right on the
line with with with everything on them. They probably have,
sayak Um at sixteen, they have hes A sixteen, I
say eighteen and a half, not far off. Okay, Now
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give me another with Lowry. They probably have Lowry pretty
much at the same level fifteen to sixteen, fourteen and
a half, fourteen and a half. How about Dreymond Raymond,
they're gonna have at like fourteen eleven and a half,
eleven and a half. He hasn't really scored this year.
I also have Andre Dolla here six eight and a half. Okay,
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and then I got I got a couple more for you,
Fred van fleet Um after his last game, they're gonna
have him twelve ten and a half and a half.
U Marc Asol, they'll probably have Gassol at about hand
eleven nine and a half. Final one is Danny Green. Um,
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they'll have Danny Green about eight seven and a half. Yeah,
seven and a half. So I think that a baka high.
You know, I'd really like I wouldn't touch. But they
don't have Durant. That's fascinating. That will change everything speaking
about not having Durant. Speaking about not having Durant, the
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question will immediately turn at the series ends tonight to
free agency and what happens to Durant last week. The
Brooklyn Nets made a splash last Thursday where they traded
away um, traded away a bad contract with Alan Crab,
traded away a couple of picks to get Torre in prints,
and more importantly open up space. The biggest rumor has
Kyrie Irving wanting to go to Brooklyn and potentially bringing
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Kevin Durant with him. Knicks fans all nervous at the moment,
but Brooklyn certainly putting themselves in the conversation and everything
you read right now is the biggest free agent players,
the two l A teams, the two New York teams. Well,
so it's really really interesting. I was thinking about and
I heard another person say that Knicks have been like
the dancing and Star with Stars person in the NBA,
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where where people have gone to revive their career. You know,
I was trying to think of who the trans anal
and giant players that really transcend team when they've had
opportunities to move around and and now it wasn't always
completely their choice, but the first mercurial star that I
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remember that changed teams in the NBA, that you know,
changed the destiny of teams was Kareem Abdul Jabbar and
lu Al Cinder, who I think was still the most
dominant player that ever lived. Okay, all kindness to Michael Magic,
but Milwaukee was in last place and then they swept
the championship. The next year they changed the rules because
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of lu Al Cinder and Jabbar. You know, a whole
bunch of different ways. The sky hook was an unstoppable
shot before three pointers, and he wound up going to
the Lakers. It was gonna either be the Knicks or
the Lakers. The one player who used to score a lot,
I don't know if he was a mercurial star who
went to the Knicks was Bob McAdoo. And I think
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somewhere along the line that eliminated the Knicks chance of
getting Larry Bird, but I can't remember exactly how that was.
Linkfood was about the same time Nicks traded several number
one picks Um and Boston actually took him the year
before he actually came out of Indiana state. You know,
they actually had a bad, bad year. Then obviously you
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have the whole Lebron James where where um where the
Knicks freed all of the salary thing, and Lebron had
the decision that that was the time. When you know,
it's funny the trades that the Knicks made at that time,
they would have kept those players they actually wound up having.
They had Um, the guy who had a great career
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at Memphis from Michigan State. Um left that, Randolf Okay, Um,
Jama Croft. I mean, they actually had a lot of
talent in there. Then they had Gallantari, you know then
and and and obviously he didn't want to come. Then
they pulled the trigger on Anthony so they don't allow
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him to go to to free agency, and you know
he never it was never a mercurial star with Denver.
You know, Denver made it to one semi conference semifinals
in his whole career, So it wasn't it wasn't there.
So the Knicks have always, you know, for the image
that New Yorkers have of the mecca of basketball and
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everybody wanting to stay in Madison Square Garden, that really
has not been true in my lifetime. If actions speak
louder than words, we've heard that forever, right, that people
want to play New York, they want to go to
the Mecca. They want to bring basketball back to New York.
Only Carmelo has come. That's it. That's it. I mean
a Marii Stadomia came because no one else wanted to
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give him that type of contract because of his knees,
plaid well in his in his first year. But you know,
one of the things that's really strange is Hirie is
recruiting Kevin Durant. I mean, isn't that what Kevin Durant
was trying to leave. If so, I don't believe any
of these things, you know, to be to be perfectly honest,
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I think that the what what is what is steamrolled
all these conversations is all these talking heads that try
to say that they have relationships. If Kevin Durant is
coming to New York, he's coming to New York because
he thinks it's the best business opportunity and where he
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wants to live. I don't think it has anything to
do with Kyrie Irving. I think that's I think that's
dialogue that's on ESPN and people people like that. I don't,
you know, I just don't think I think that, you know,
he looks at himself as a corporate entity, in himself,
in himself and a brand, and he's gonna do what's
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best for his brand. I can't imagine that this is not,
for example, cappasig and pledging a fraternity. I mean, I
think that's stuff that people speak about. UM. Now for
those people around the country. Brooklyn, where I grew up,
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has become the hot borrow. You know, Williamsburg has probably
the hottest clubs in the city. But I don't think
that's transcended to Meteor and the Barkley's being the it
place in New York has compared to Madison Square. I
don't know. They've certainly tried, right, I mean, the draft
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now at Barkley Center, UM, major major events being now
at Barcley Centers MSG ultimately cost too much money. I mean,
you know it's not in your world major, but w
W hold older events in Barkley's because it's cheaper. Well,
it's it's a big time building. I'm not trying to
say that, but you know, is Barkley's getting sixty you know,
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is Barkley's getting the fift hundred dollar dred dollar thousand dollars? Okay?
Is you know, is the front row going to be
a who's who of everybody. I mean I probably not. No,
you know, I just can't see Kevin Durant going to
the Clippers or the Nets, I mean going to the
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second ranked franchise. I think that there are two decisions
for him to make Golden State on New York what
on l A because and play with Magic I mean
play with m Lebron I just don't, or go to
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the Clippers. I mean again, I just don't see the
Clippers being similar to them, although they play in the
same building and to some degree, the Clippers have become
kind of like the Ones. Yeah, because l A so
so pathologic. Um I you know again, I think if
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he's going to come okay and he wants to come
to his brand, I think that one of the reasons
that people don't you know, we don't realize it out west,
but the teams that are least known in the NBA
or Sacramento, Whatland, Denver, Denver, and and you don't realize
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that they are games get played at eleven o'clock at
night on the East Coast and o'clock at night on
the East Coast. We see the Lakers so often that
we don't realize that. But building a brand and being
on the East Coast I think is advantageous. Well, I
think being in l a is equally advantageous, as Lebron
will tell you. But I understand what you're saying. I
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mean as a whole, as a whole, as a whole,
I think that well. I think that Lebron leaving gives
the East Coast a chance to brand to ran n
is here. I mean, the Knicks are on everywhere every
night and in prime time you know, the Lakers the
West Coast games when they're on the East Coast start
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at four o'clock thirty. So I think there's a real
advantage of him coming back here. Again, what bothers me
is that the Knicks are always the bridesmaid. They never
the bride, as we've seen over and over and over again.
And would do you think the Nets are a real
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player here? I do, I think, and we talked about this.
I think Kyrie Irving is a Net, I really do. Yeah.
But again, is that because some of the lust is
off the rose of Kyrie? No, I don't think so,
because I think that there's enough time has passed that
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that's all gone almost like and now the Nets better
with the Angelo Russell or Kyrie iv yees they're both
ball dominant. They are and and do they still have
room for Durant in that scenario? But I don't think
Durant goes to the nets from the reason you're mentioning,
you'renna coing to New York and you're gonna play in Brooklyn,
and in his mind like he's coming to New York
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for this, Kyrie Ree's the type of guy that will
go play in Brooklyn, I think. Now. So now that
takes us to where where the domin the buck is
for Anthony Davis. They want to butting All Star, future
All Star and draft picks. First of all, do they
get it? Yes? From well, it looks from the sound
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of it, they wanted multi teams to get involved, not
just not just a bidding war, but like the Lakers
to move their young assets to a team that could
give picks or something else that the Pelicans would want
have a multi team deal here. Okay, but now you're
only getting him for one year. Yes, No, you're not
taking the train unless you're you're competent. He resigns, So
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you know, Boston is the only team that you could
argue as the future All Star in Jayson Tatum. I mean,
you don't necessarily believe that Mitchell Robinson is a future
lost is the future starting center who you know may
sneak into an All Star, but you you don't see
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him being a perennial All Star. Okay, Um, the both
the Knicks and the Celtics have draft picks. The Lakers
they didn't seem to like Alonzo Ball to start with,
and you really think the bidding is going to be
that high? Yes? I do? Okay, I do. I have
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a Alonzo rumber today about the Suns that basically, the
Sun's want a point guard, desperately pair with Devin Booker,
but because of where they end up in the draft,
it's John Moran and then one then get John morand
the next best point guard He's not better than Alonzo
Ball theoretically, so the next best point guard is probably
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Darius Garland. There's a chance that Garland falls to Phoenix
at six. Kobe White. Absolutely is Alonzo Ball better than
Darius Garland or Kobe White. Alonzo Ball would be pretty
good with Devin Booka. I very much agree with you,
very much agree with you. So do you trade the
sixth overall pick for Alonzo Ball I totally agree with you,
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and I think the Lakers you then have four and
six to offer the Pelicans if you give them four
six Kuzma and Ingram, did they say no to that? Yes, okay,
because you're really only giving him four and six they
like maybe they like you, German Kuzma, I know you don't.
England's got blood clots. He's not tradeable. Okay, okay. You
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know the NBA would not allow um what's his name
from Miami to play on Gerralta right, okay, he wanted
to come back and play on Blood in which Serena
Williams has, you know, a congenital frombosis situation. Alonso Morning
was very interesting, an interesting thing. Alonso Morning actually petrified
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the the n b A because he had glumarialis sclerosis
kidney disease, and his electrolytes were normal. And what happens
sometimes your kidneys is they have to clear potassium and
when you actually do, carnary bypassed. The way we stopped
the heart is by confusing potassium, so it stops the heart.
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No one ever saw a professional athlete and look at
the muscle. So he generated so much potassium he came
off the courts with the nets once they already knew
he had kidney and you know, his kidneys were about
down and they did actually an ekg and he was
going into basically showing signs of hyper calalema, which could
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be fatal, and that's when they grounded him and transplanted
him right away. They were surprised because when people walk around,
they could not make that potassium go up to that
level that they saw him rise to such a dangerous level.
So that's what that's that's what he had. But Chris
Bosh has had recurrent venus thrombosis. That's actually what Tony
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Gwynn I believe off the top of my head passed
away from. And Serena's had that as well, but she
plays tennis on a low dose of antiicoagulant. The NBA
will not allow that. So I don't think anybody would
touch branded Ingram with a ten foot poll if do
you think his career is over? Um if he can't
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come off blood thinner? The answers, yeah, I don't know what.
I don't have enough knowledge to comment on that. If
it was, for example, related to trauma and not related
to a hypercoagulable state. Then what you would do is
just anti coagulate him for six months and then he
should be no different than you or I. If this
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is a random event and he has a hypercoagulable state,
what throws another clot? Now you're getting into ken is
it's safe to play on blood Thinner? And I think
the NBA is really concerned that somebody had blood Thinner
gets an elbow to the face, they get a bleed
in their brain. So I think that in an you know,
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in a semi contact sport, I don't. I think there'll
be an awful lot of liability. Now, the interesting thing
is people on blood Thinner do whatever the hell they
want in the public spectrum. So these are the difficult points.
But it's a bad look if somebody in an NBA
game has a terrible, you know, hemorrhage. So if that's
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the case, so I don't think Ingram's touchable. If he
is untouchable, we're not treatable. Lakers don't have enough. I
don't think they haven't end and Kuzma is a diamond
dozen players. Yes, I mean yeah, you know again, this
goes down to what I was saying about Abaka. If
you put somebody on the court for thirty five minutes
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in the NBA, it's a good chance they're gonna score
sixteen points. Because the losing team scores a hundred and
four points in today's NBA. So somebody has to score
those points absolutely, Okay. So you can't get carried away
when Dennis Smith Junior scores thirty one points. Okay, you know,
could he do it regularly with efficiency? That's a different question.
So Kosman is a diamond, dozen't He's a scoring inefficient
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not a knockdown shooter. You know, obviously became a knockdown shooter,
he'd be more valuable. So ro Kuzma roule the window.
I mean you you can replace him, you know, sign
somebody to replace him. So he he represents no value
to me. The fourth and the sixth pick, okay, is interesting.
I mean the the going into the NBA draft. The
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player that everybody thinks has a lot of potential is
the center from Texas jack Um Jareck Colver. But I
mean hope, but I just get rid of it now,
blanking uh Stevens or Valley Jonathan Hayes is what hold
on Texas Jareck Colver, Jaxon Hayes, Jackson Hayes. So that's
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that's that's that's the buzz player with a lot of upside.
Then in that level you have Cam Redding Reddish Cam
Reddish uh from from Duke, you have Um, you have
obviously Jarreed Colver, and you have DeAndre Hunter. So so
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the draft is gonna go in somewhat. I think you
see hearing some buzz that there's a chance Barrett goes second.
You know, I I don't know if that's absolutely true,
but on all probability, Moran second, Barrett third, then you
at too. The full off is so high that most
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people have the point guard from Vanderbilt who had an
a c L injury going forth. Okay, DeAndre Hunter, who
will be an NBA player for twelve years, but no
one he he's not even the lead guy that Virginia goes.
Do I know? He hit the three point shot you're
talking about and an accessory accessory accessory player. Now is
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he on the court and crunch time, Yes, because he guards,
especially if he hits the shot well. And then you
have Jared Culver, who, honestly, I wasn't convinced he's more
than a six or seventh man. Now Jared Colvi goes
the way his jump shot goes. If he becomes a
knockdown shooter. He certainly got the athleticism and he's got
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the length. If he can't sho from three or from three,
he's an NBA sub So what is that really really worth?
Probably not the fourth overall pick. Probably not the fourth
overall pick. Yeah, so the four and the six, I mean,
I've heard about the Knicks trading. You know, they're three
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for the Hawks, two picks. That made no sense to
me at all. I mean, you know, you know, the
NBA is a league where and this goes to your
last answer, whoever has the best player in the trade
wins the trade. You always agree with that, always agree
with that. It's it's kind of different in in baseball sometimes, okay,
where the only one, the only one, the only trade
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that I constantly think of that it wasn't necessarily one,
and maybe it was okay, seen Indiana was Paul George
because they got Oladivo and Sibonis back and that worked out, okay,
But that's because Oladipo before he got hurt, was way
better than we've ever thought, definitely and Paul George was
the best player in the deal though, Yeah, I mean,
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I mean there's exceptions every rule of it, right, you
know that that that actually was was great value, you know,
and Sabonis has really developed reasonably well um as well.
And I mean, I guess you could say Carshall Walker
for a tremendous amount of draft picks, and so we
know players in the trade, he had to be the
best player and that was considered one of the worst
trades in him. Um, So I'm not sure. You know,
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what do the Celtics do if Kyrie is leaving? Do
they trade Jayson Tatum? What Tyrie's gone as I as
we predict, so Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown to draft picks
that that's the only team that has what they want.
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I don't think the Celtics do that. I don't think
they do it either. I don't think you do it either.
You know, then you don't have enough as a team.
Well you have Anthony Davis Rosier, so you gotta resign Rose, ye,
you gotta re sign Horford. I don't know that you
do that. So, I mean that's really the deal, you know,
because that is the person you know. Of all the
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teams that we talked about, Aiden, even though he had
a rougher second, is the most likely to be an
All Star. Definitely, Jalen Brown has a chance to be
an All Star. And they certainly have a lot of
draft picks, but I think their draft picks have lost
some degree of value recently. You look at the Knicks off,
The Knicks off is going to be the three. Whether
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the three is translated into the six and the eight,
you know, because they prefer that. Okay, the Knicks off
is going to be the three dallas Is pick, Mitchell
Robinson and Knox. Would you do that? You get the three?
So you get R. J. Barrett's parasimson. That's pretty good.
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Do you get the future You're all star in that?
That's the question. What can Knox and je Robins become?
I think getting dallas Is pick, which could be valuable.
Would you do it? You're the Knicks? Mhm, A lot?
I do it if I know I'm kennying Kevin Durant.
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You don't know you're getting Kevin Durant. You have to
do this? Maybe you know, maybe you know, is or
the Knicks more likely for Durant if they have Anthony
Davis sitting there, Well, let's look at the b is
is Kemba Walker? It Kemba Walker. I was reasoning today,
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it's he's gonna take the money in Charlotte. Ideally they're
all from the Max. He's going to sign that, and
it is unlikely for the Knicks. From what I've read,
I thought he's gonna come to New York. But if
you don't get you get Anthony Davis, and then you
don't get Durant. You have nothing. You have nothing. You
have any plays on your team? Dennis Smith Jr. Right
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you Dennis the Jr. Alonzo Trier, you, Damian Dotson, that's
your team. Are you doing this? You have to do
it in the next two weeks? Yeah? I mean I
do you do it? Yes? And and then and the
Nick Stoke for two Max contracts? Now, how could a
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combination in today's NBA? Do you think Anthony Davis and durantaw? Now,
I understand Durant can shoot the three as well, but
you really need a god in that scenario. You do, like,
is Kyrie Irving the guy you need? Probably not? Right? Ye?
Anthony Davis only one ball? If if that's my team, Kyrie,
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I figure out how to get Mike Conley on the
cheap and pay it on the chief. It's cause you
an fload of money. Yeah, well but you I think you,
I mean, you're a win now team. You need a
god who can distribute? Right? What about could you? Again,
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there's only one ball? But like there's Bradley Beale interest
you know he's Bradley Bale is a knockdown shooter that
spreads the court. You know again, you would is Bradley
Baal is spread to Yeah, but who who is your one?
Frank Niela Kina. Absolutely he's the lead he you know
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again he is. There's a place for him in the NBA.
But he'll never be able to shoot, you know, he'll
be able to defend. You know, he'd be wonderful to
like play like you do what Van Fleet is doing
on steph Carry. But again Van Fleet has hit his
threes to to to do that. Let me transition here.
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I know're running at a time because I want to
get to a big puffy and I want to get
to what happened to him last night. He was in
the domnicular Republic where he is a god a god,
as big of a star as you can possibly name
the Dominican Republic. He's hanging out drinking, partying. Guys went
up to him and we've all seen the video at
this point, just shot him. Shot him right in the back.
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If there's back into the abdomen. And for the last
that I read, the doctors have removed his gallbladder. The shot.
He's real, real lucky. He's shot with the went into
it the liver. Yeah, with the liver. With the problem
with with with those sort of traumatic injuries is that um,
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if it gets right underneath the liver is the vienna cava.
And in trauma, you know, a retro hepatic injury is
by far the hottest because you can't get access to
stop the bleeding. So if that hit the retro hepatic,
I mean that that's what runs right into the heart.
He would have just exanguated the liver itself actually would
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usually stop bleeding. It's the vessels right near the liver.
Ball bladd is you know, no, no, no, no, no, no,
so big you know, I mean the fact that he
was stable enough to go to the surgery. Yeah, he's
he's really really lucky, you know, above a below, you know,
a few inches, you know, et cetera. If that hit
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him in the the under surface of the liver with
the with the vina cava runs into the the atrium,
that's the hardest injury to fix, to fix, to fix
in in trauma. You really is the retro caval entry
is just he was in six hours of surgery yesterday
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in the Dominican Republic. He has since been I believe
or is in transit now from the Dominican Republic back
to Boston, which means he has to be completely stable,
you know, he because you you would tend to believe
that they would have moved him to a tertiary center
in the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic, you know, has
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well trained doctors from here. It was interesting that they
took him to a private clinic. But again, you would
tend to believe that if he needed intensive care, he
either needs intensive care to the degree that you know,
they they don't feel comfortable. Um, but you wouldn't put
somebody up in the air if they were completely unstable.
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So my my guess is that he's It's very sad
because as you said, he's a god essentially in the
Dominican Republic, and it makes him at all times, as
we saw, susceptible. Unfortunately things like this, there's always somebody
who's gonna be very, very jealous of something. Yeah, well,
you know, there's no question that there is an environment
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and it's it's most of the people in the Dominican
republican you know, I have a lot of experience down there,
just absolutely lovely. It's a very fun society. Definitely a
lot of nightlife in that society, and um uh, it's
a gregarious society. It's a happy society as a whole. Um.
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But again it's also there's a lot of corruption and
you know, you have to you don't realize that every
place is not the United States, and when you have
haves and you have have nots, you can certainly be
a target. And if you offend the wrong person, you know,
they don't necessarily sue you like here, you they take
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things into their own hands. So, I mean, this seems
and you were talking before, like, uh, you know, a
paid hit for some reason, It's possible. It's possible. There's
a lot of speculation obviously. Um, it's very very sad
to see that a great ambassador, if nothing else, of
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the game of base ball. Very very very sad news
thoughts of course go. You know, but you also see
maybe there's a lesson to some of these players because
you constantly hear about their jewelry being stolen and this
being stolen, and and and and you know again it's
it's really really hard because they they don't want to
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seem like they've abandoned where they've come from. They don't
want to seem like they've changed their their roots. And
these are also they have people where they feel most important.
But maybe you know, it seems like each year in
baseball is several stories not this bad, but not dissimilar
to this on a regular time. And and you know,
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I would potentially want more of my players to potentially
stay up here and and potentially mainstream them to something.
Absolutely and they have big investments in a lot amore.
I know, I understand, but I'm just pointing back they
you know, we constantly hear stories like this couldn't get
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held up at gun point. You know, this is you know,
one that comes to mind. But I think there have
been a few other players and and you've got to
realize in a number one. The affluence is kind of
this significant amount of jewelry. The affluences is certainly, you know,
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obvious for people. And I don't want to mean saying
something negative like flaunted, but it there really is a
have and have not society. It's not exactly like living
in Greenwich where you just kind of blend in against
the wall. Absolutely. Absolutely. A few closing shots, Stevens, what
would you have done? Commission as suspect, it's a great
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it's a great question, Mark Stevens. Of course, the Golden
State investor, they call him a fan, that an investor
that rather than part owner, which is what he is essentially.
Um and you asked me this a while ago. I
have taken some time to think about it. I don't
think they got it wrong. I don't. One year band
from everything, the dude investing the team. He can even
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show up to his team to watch it. Now. Of
course he's still like money off of his investment. He
can still sell his share. Would you would you tell
him he needs that, you suggest he sells nicely, and
that you don't want him in your league. I think
that a lot of owners who are a lot of
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really terrible things, say a lot of terrible things from
Donald Sterning being on one end of that spectrum. So,
I mean, Mark human hasn't always but not on your court,
not on the court that was Sterling did on the court,
um not and put his hands on a player. It's
he got very much, you know. It's it's it's an
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interesting thing. So when I started in surgery, it was
okay when you were frustrated to scream in the operating room,
throw instruments and things like that was a patient out
during the patients sleeping, you know. But but like if
a nurse handed something the wrong instrument to a hot surgeon,
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it would be like a backhand against the wall, Okay,
something like that. You know that. I mean you've you've
watched episodes of mash where you've seen that. I have not.
But now if you do that, okay, if you had
an outburst, and even if it is thing, you would
probably be reported to the Office of Professional Misconduct and
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could lose your license. So we're at a world the
type of world you know, and the same thing in
in school, like if there was a incident, you know,
you know, we have the Bobby Night right right, but
an incident right now where we saw how in Michigan State,
which really was just a coach disappoint how ISO got
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in the kid's face, in the kid's face, and that
that created an up rooke. You know, anything like that
now and it's a different world, would end careers in
certain things. So the question is if you put your
hands on somebody, and you're a representative of the n
b A, I mean, is that a career ending thing?
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We used to say we forgive or you know, maybe
you apply for reinstatement. I think in a lot of places,
you know, you know, we we we lose sight that
these are athletes. But if you know, if a teacher
put their hands on your kid, would you say that
that should be a one year sentence? Okay, you would
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say that teacher should never teach again? Absolutely absolutely, Okay,
if there was a fistfight in sports grid tonight, both
people would be going home, not here. Probably probably have promoted.
But you you understand what I'm trying to say. So
from that standpoint, I kind of understand what Lebron James saying.
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I don't disagree with you. That's a really good point.
You know the world has changed, you know, these guys
and and and what would have happened. And people have
brought this up. If Lowry turned around and slugged him,
he's a thug. That would have been the thought. That
would have been the mantra. But you know, again, imagine
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you're going into the crowd, You're in foreign territory. In
the old days, people spill a beer on you. You
have no idea what anyone's doing. I mean I think
that honestly, somebody owns a team has to answer to
a higher standard. And I think putting your hands on somebody.
I mean again, you always say in the heat of battle,
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he's not in battle, right, Okay, this is not your right,
This is not right. Kauai Leonard. You know, he gets
pushed by Gassal, you know, and and and and and
and and in Afganast they were in the same team.
But he gets pushed. Durant gets pushed by somebody. That's
the heat of battle. This guy is a spectator, okay,
a privileged spectator. Control yourself, you know, with a Harvard education,
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control yourself. I don't see a real excuse, you know,
I'm much more the giving for somebody who is in
the stress of the moment where something bad is happening
and potentially, you know, has tunnel vision and loses control.
He's watching a basketball game. That's entertainment. I don't see
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that being a stressful situation for him. Like I feel
bad when somebody's in in the workplace and something happens
and they overreact and then they get analyzed for the overreaction.
But that's in the heat of battle. What battle is
he in? The only one, the only battle he's in
is the one that's in his mind. Absolutely, absolutely, You've
been a great point doctor, great point that jo. There
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you go. So tonight, final score is final score tonight,
I said the Warriors win. I think they do. I
think the Warriors win one fourteen to one oh seven.
I am going to go the Raptors one seventeen one
o two. There you go, fifteen point win from Toronto Raptors.
And Abaka over Vodka over and that's a bet of
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the night, says not Baka over because I think they're
gonna play him and you know, watching plays six minutes,
that's he's bet of the night picking the night. Abaka over.
There you got the points, could see one more time,
I said, Abaka points the number is eight and a
half way over. It says Doc, he put sixteen. I
believe what do you think you like? That man he got?
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