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May 20, 2019 52 mins

Dr. Mitchell Roslin and Gregg Sussman laugh at the latest misfortunes regarding the Mets, the thought behind the firing of former Jets GM Mike Maccagnan and break down what they think comes out of the rest of the NBA Playoffs!

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
What is everybody? This is Doc Jock here the Fantasy
Sports Network. That is Dr Mitchell rosalind. I am during
feeling in a summer mood today, Doc, what's going on?
As she said, it's it's uh, the last three days
we finally have had spring here. Um, everybody's been excited. Great,

(00:31):
you know p G A in the New York area
and you know, once again it looks like it's gonna
be no summer of baseball and Queens. That's for a starting,
no worry, Um, no summer of baseball and Queens. And
it was only a week ago that we were talking
about the NBA Draft, and I don't think that story
has been written to its conclusion either. So let's start

(00:53):
with the New York Mats a lot. I know we're
in New York who don't want to be too New
York by for the manager's job. I have not something
resume yet, but I'm working on the resume um. And
I know we're in New York and we don't try
to be super New York centric, but that's where the
stories are today. We'll get the NBA Playoffs a little
while the York Mets. Every year it's the same thing

(01:15):
every year in my life. I feel like it's the
same thing outside of the year in the worth of
the World Series twice, but they're great on opening day.
The Mets have all of this hope in April and
the calendar turns to May and it all goes downhill,
and it just goes downhill so significantly. Like I understand
the team slumps, I get it. Every team slumps. Well,

(01:37):
the Yankees were completely beaten up and they had lost
couple of games in a row. They crushed Aaron Boone
and crushed the Yankees, and like, okay, now they're winning
our first place in their division and all as well,
and winning with nondescriptive players. But they are, you know,
the reinforcements will calm no doubt winning, which which kind
of makes you almost believe that they were organizational expectations

(02:01):
that we can't understand when we when you start out
by talking about fantasy. Maybe so. But it's an evan
flow over the baseball season, as there is for every team,
but the Mets evan flow to me. And again, I
don't watch very metcame. Admittedly I watch you wa watch
every metcame. The Mets ebbs and flows seems so much
more dramatic. You know, I think it's starts and I

(02:26):
think saw Catch is a lovely human being, so you know,
who's one of the Mets partners. But I think it
starts from the top, where there they send a message,
and I think it's the wrong message in sports, like
we want to be competitive, but we don't necessarily want
to compete with the Yankees. And you know, I don't

(02:49):
think you can be in sports unless you want to
be the best. And you know, they had an active offseason.
It's not like they did nothing, but there was a
transcendent player and I don't care how he's playing, who
was young, was going to get media attention, was going

(03:09):
to make a statement that we are a first class
team in the first class market. And they didn't even
go after Bryce Hopper. Instead they went for Robinson Canoe.
They basically, you know, tried to sell that we were
going to be the equivalent of um, I guess the
baseball version of the New England Patriots where the sun

(03:32):
was greater than the whole of the pots. And the
problem is it starts at the top with an expectation
of it's okay, we just want to play competitive baseball
games in September, you know. And as long as we
play competitive baseball games, our attendance will be okay. Sports sports,
you know, sn wise ratings will be okay. And I'm

(03:54):
gonna start with something that's really startling. When I was
growing up, and I think I've said this before, New
York was a nash in the league down Okay, it
was the Steinbrenner Yankees, and people didn't want to go
to the Bronx, you know, people were scared to go
to the South Bronx. It was the stein Burnie Yankees
that made the Yankees an event. The Sparky Lyle, the

(04:14):
Reggie Jacksons and made the Yankees an event. And now
you've had I would guess two generations that have grown
up with that. But you know, signing somebody like Bryce
Harper and sending a statement the Mets are worth a
lot less money than the Yankees, although they were in
the same market. They have their own television network that
basically prints money, and they're okay being a secondary player.

(04:40):
And it wasn't that it wasn't the point of hiring
a Bronie van Wagenen. So they weren't the second the
second hand player that they weren't the backup. That that's
that that's like, you know, there's a statement that's like
putting lipstick on a pig. You know, it's it's he's
the general manager. If you wanted to go do that, Okay,
it's it's like hiring the best. It's like hiring John
On Kyle A. Perry and saying you don't want to

(05:01):
recruit One and Dunes. That's my analogy to it. Now,
you you can make an argument about One and Dunes
that you you know you can't win Nashville, but you
hire joining Calipari. Essentially, what you're saying was, we're we're
getting the best college players in the country. You know.
I know Duke has changed that, you know a little bit,
but we're not gonna do do to one and done. Okay,
you hire Brody. The idea of Brody is that he

(05:24):
can recruit the Bryce Happer because it's more than just money. Okay,
he can recruit I'm not a Maddie Machado fans, but
he can recruit the Maddie Machado's. Okay, you're you're sentinel players,
that's all, you know, That's that's what getting him in
and involved in is about. But also what Bertie van

(05:44):
Wagener was brought here to do, and you're right, was
to add this like pizzazz to this team. And he
made that with a splashy canoe trade with the splash
splashy cano Edwin d Straight. He did that. He did
that by signing a Jed Lowry. He did that by
some of the other moves that he ultimately made giving
the ground the extension. For instance, throwing Synderguard's name out
in trade rooms right like that created a buzz around

(06:07):
the Mets. His ego and personality created a buzz around
the Mets. But well, it's all setting done the Mets.
But but but that's exactly right organizationally, the philosophy, and
he's done some other good things. He's brought in some
analytics peoples, okay, and which we may see the things

(06:27):
sprout if if it doesn't crumble before we can see
them sprout. You know the other thing about the Mets
which is really interesting is that they've actually been lucky
to a certain extent. And you're gonna say that's really strange, surprising.
Jeff McNeil and Peter Alonso, who weren't on anybody's top
fifty prospects. Both look like they can be All stars,

(06:47):
so they came out of it. You know, they're so
supposedly defunct. Arm system has actually produced two major league
starters that going back fifteen months ago, no one would
have predicted, and they look like they're for real. So
they've actually had certain things come through and they're still abysmal,
which is really really worrisome. So then the question becomes

(07:11):
why are they abysmal? And I think I think all
eyes turned immediately toward the manager, Mickey Callaway. If people
were calling for his head, always can Mickey Callaway is
kind of like that concession. Mickey Callaway is like the
fever that comes with the infection is a symptom of

(07:31):
the problem. He is not the problem, which doesn't mean
that they shouldn't get rid of him. Those are two
separate type of things. Mickey Callaway is your compromised choice.
You know, we're gonna go for the new style manager,
but we're not going to go to somebody who has
a track record that we're gonna pay an awful lot

(07:51):
of money too. You know, the when you show up
the camp in five Sboro, Massachusetts, the expectation is Super
Bowl or bust if you play in the Bronx. This year,
the Yankees are in first place, give them all the
credit in the world with their injuries, but should of

(08:14):
winning a World Series this year will be at best,
you know, a marginal disappointment. Okay, the Mets, the criterias
when we play a meaningful game in September. Until you
change that culture, people are going to shift to that level.
So it starts out with we are better than the Yankees. Okay,

(08:40):
if you don't believe that you were back, do you
want to go to a doctor that doesn't believe he's
as good as anybody in the country. Certainly not. Okay,
So why would you want to go play for a
baseball team that tells you that the second team in
the market because the first year the market doesn't know
me anything. Then you're gonna play like that. Then you're

(09:01):
gonna play it like that. I don't know if that's true,
Like I think you know. And this gets down to
the strange, strange question. Okay, anybody can manage a baseball game.
I mean, I could put you in the dugout tonight,
ress you up like Bobby Valentine, in the day, and
chances are you can manage, but you probably couldn't manage

(09:22):
a baseball team. You manage a baseball game, which is
very different than managing a baseball team. And how significant
the management manager is and the culture. You gotta give
Aaron Boone credit. They're not winning with anything that's great
on paper. I mean, who is great on paper? Everybody

(09:43):
who's great on papers? On the disabled list, you know?
And yes and no, I mean you do have you
do have some players still of course, Gary Sanchez and
Glabor Torres. Okay, Gary Sanchez last year hit the Glabor
STI has hit in the second half of last year.
I don't think he was healthy. He's only two, yeah,
twenty two years old. I mean, you know, the bottom

(10:05):
line is everybody comes up, they're ready to play because
there's an expectation. There's an expectation and performance. And the
Mets the expectation is exactly you know what you just said, Tess,
but this is gonna step in the hold and that's
the expectation, you know, and and and you can't. You know.
The surprise was the Graham didn't retear his own the

(10:27):
ligament after they they they they they signed him. I
mean it, it starts there, and now you ask me
what to do at this point in time, if I'm
Brody wants to listen to my advice, and not that
I necessarily know, it's going to make the hugest difference,

(10:48):
but it makes a statement. We're bringing Joe Girardi in
because he's won a World Series, he's been here in
New York, and the New York Mets is now going
to hire the most qualified person for every single position
until we get this right. What if Jury doesn't want
the job tomorrow? What if he wants to start fresh
meeting of the season. Uh, you know, I I think

(11:09):
that that's where your salesmanship comes in, because this ship,
it's going to be a very lonely summer in New York.
Hiring somebody from within, okay, resurrecting Terry Collins from the dead.
I don't think any of those things mean anything. I mean,
I think Dusty Baker really doesn't move the envelope. UM,

(11:33):
so she would be a very very good choice. But
we live in New York, so I prefer a New
York guy to do New York things. I mean, Joe
Girardi lives up in Westchester. I think he's more likely
to take the job. I also think that he has
the respect. He also think he's one with young team.
So she has always been a solid, solid, solid manager
with California, and he'll get his players to play um.

(11:56):
But I think the Mets have to make a statement,
and I don't necessarily know that that's going to be
the be all or end all. But you know what,
when Bryce Happer, you know, it's one thing if you're
sitting with gian Carlo Stanton and you don't want to
go after Bryce Happer. It's another thing when you have
Cspitous on the disabled list and you need to make
a statement, and you know, arguably there's never gonna be

(12:18):
There may not be a twenty six year old power
hitter that hits the market. Again. Like that, I'll say
that from the Yankee perspective, right, Like I feel the
same way. Yeah, but you know you're the Yankees. You're
looking at Aaron Judge, You're looking at gliber Torres, You're
looking at you know, a stock that's going up with
the Mets. You're looking at an undervalued asset, the Mets

(12:42):
in general. And you've spoken about this as a second
little brother type of organization. This whole Robinson canot the
thing is fascinating to me this weekend. Right that Robinson
Canoe didn't run out of double play because the score
board said there was one out score. We didn't say that,
it said there were two outs. A day later he
hits what he deems of foul ball, wasn't a foul ball?

(13:02):
Another double play? He doesn't run it out. He took
a ton of heat after the game and he was
told and he was like, what are you talking about?
I thought it was a foul ball. Whatever. It took
a tone of heat. Mickey Callaway took a ton of
heat for not sitting him down. So today Mickey Callaway
after Perie van Wagon and said, Mickey is our manager
for now in the foreseeable future. Of course, wouldn't say

(13:23):
what the foreseeable feature was. He benches Canal because of
the whole media outcry. Right, Cando is being benched, And
he said it's partly because it's a day off, it's
a left hand or whatever. But also he's got a hustle.
He has to run things out. Robin's canoe. What was
asked about this? Of course today during the media availability
before the Mets game. Cano said it was never mentioned
to him that he's on the bench tonight for failing

(13:45):
to run. As Mickey Callaway once responded, he seems to
be under the impression that it was a pre arranged
day off, which, when thinking about it, was obviously a
pre arranged day office face is a tough lefty. Patrick
Corby has not had any success on this week this year.
You were gonna set him, benjam Fine and Mickey Callaway

(14:05):
chose to say, listen, two birds, one stone, boom, Rob,
it's gonna to go along with that. And now the
dysfunction continues with this team every hour. They named a
starting pitcher last night and then four hours ago changed
their minds. There is no responsibility or organized organization in

(14:25):
this organization. Well, you know, they brought Riggleman in to
try to teach Mickey Callaway how to manage, and I
would assume that Mickey Callaway, you know, what makes a
hot bar, what makes a good leader. You know a

(14:47):
lot of times when somebody loses and they're too friendly,
then they're going to bring in a disciplinarian and vice versa.
The bottom line is it's very hard to read charisma
in very hard to read lead ship and determine who's
going to do it. But with eighteen months here, Mickey
Callaway is not the answer. And this is, you know,

(15:08):
just another example. Robinson Cano has as much respect for
Mickey Callaway as a leader or as much trepidation as
you know, you can pick your analogy. I don't want
to say anything negative. And this is a team that
is going absolutely nowhere. It needs a leader. Okay. I

(15:32):
don't think Jim Riggleman's the answer. I think it has
to come from outside the organization. I hope that that's
why Brody didn't fire him today, because the natural reaction
after he gets swept in Florida when he's been on
fumes is just to fire him. So I hope the
delay is for them to try to get somebody in
place so that there's some accountability. And then, you know,

(15:56):
if I'm sitting on Brody, you know i'd stop this
by ah. You know, like Jeff Wilpon is saying. You know,
it's well known, you know that Jeff Wilpon only has
a job because he's Fred's son. You know, he has
zero respect of people in baseball, within the organization and
even people who live in the Grantage area. I mean,

(16:18):
he's not well sort of except as a good golfer. Um,
why isn't he well thought of? What has he done
to me? Not well thought of? Well, you start out
with the whole um, the whole situation with the ticket
manager that came back from New England, New England, um
where where you know. Basically it was a clear cut

(16:40):
case of you know, harassment. Um. The employees, they don't
have great amount of respect for him. You know, I
think that he has. You know, I think Brody and
him are great friends. Okay, and things like that, but
you know what it Brody needs to make a stand. Hey,
I was the best player age in the world. I

(17:01):
expect to be the best player, you know, general manager
in the world. I don't want to be second class.
I want the budget untied. When we get up to
the level of the Yankees, Okay, then we'll worry about it.
The Mets sports that s and why is worth enough
and the value of the Mets would go up precipitously

(17:22):
to take a risk on doing so. It should not
be run as a business that needs to break even
and the madeoffs have nothing to do with it. It
has to do with the fact that they want to
run a responsible Their primary business is real estate and
the Mets, and they want to run that for a
net operating profit or a minimal loss rather than run

(17:47):
it to maximize value, just like every other team that's
smart doing, especially as team values keep on appreciating up.
Look at how much Steve Boma played for the Clippers
to point one or three billion, and now he's he's
in the black because, let's face it, the Clippers are
no longer stock, a laughing stock, and they're no longer

(18:09):
considered his secondary ass Uh. Second, that's no matter what
the secondary as Lakers maybe you know, but but but
not financially usually. I mean, sure, okay, they're not you
know what, but they've improved their asset by the perspective.
Steve Bomba does not say we're a secondary aspect, of
course not okay, So why are the Mets neither Neither

(18:30):
do the Nets for that matter, because the Nets don't
believe they are. They're not being run like they are,
you know, the Nets believe that they're going to be
an attractive place to be agency. I mean, honestly, the
Nets of the you know, besides the Yankees, the nets
of the least dysfunctional franchise in New York very much,
although you know, everybody likes to kill the Madison Square

(18:51):
Garden on a regular basis. But you know, and and
and and and the next Dole interruption could could happen
right now as I'm speaking. But Twitter, Okay, you know,
hiring John Davidson was a good hire. And you know
everything that you're hearing from around the league, which takes
us into the next thing. You know about the triumphant

(19:11):
of Scott Perry. You know, Fiz Deal, Steve Mills, Steve Mills,
Greg Robinson. It seems like people like these guys around
the league right now. We'll see in this offseason, and
we'll see if there's some merit to the fact that
Zion may strong on people. Oh, I don't know. I

(19:32):
don't know what comes to the Knicks about if people
love those guys like Steve Mills. Well, he's a little
bit of an also rent. That's the problem. That's the problem.
But but Scott Perry respected, respected, and and let's see
what happens now. You know, I I think we all
went crazy at the poisingis thing but right now, sitting
where they're sitting with the odds where they are at right,

(19:56):
I think all of us now say, you know what
it's given us hope? I mean, would you how much
hope would you have it you were sitting with Pauzingis
and R J. Barrett, no salary, Not nearly as much
as I have hope now, especially as Draymond Green seems
to be pushing. He seems to be. Draymond Green I

(20:16):
think hired at that door. I think he hired like
the Santini brothers to move all of Kevin Durant's stuff
to New York. Kevin Durant, Draymond Green Is and the
Warriors right now really are playing like they want. Do
you don't want Kevin Durant back next year? Do you
think Kevin Durant plays another game of the Warriors? No? No,

(20:38):
I think that I've never seen. You know, I got
this series completely right. I got this series completely wrong.
I mean I was feeling good when Portland was up
eighteen the first time. Okay, I mean, and I said,
I thought that they weren't gonna win Game one, but
I thought they were gonna win game too. So I mean,
if they get swept. It looks like one of the
dumbest predictions. But when they were up eighteen on the road,

(21:00):
it looked pretty good for about one and a half minutes. Okay,
but but I have never been do you just Draymond
Green fan? But he has been absolutely incredible. First of all,
he looks like he's lost weight. I've never seen him run. Absolutely,
it looks I've never seen him run faster. He's always

(21:22):
been a good passer, but the tempo that he's playing at,
I mean, he was being great in these playoffs to
begin with with Durant, but since Durant's gone up, he's
become like the energizer bunny. You know, Curry is doing
what Curry does. Lay Thompson is doing what Klay Thompson does,
but Draymond Green is taking it to a level that's
just absolutely in incredible. And that talks in a lot

(21:46):
of shows is that he's lost weight, as you mentioned,
and he's also very clearly and he actually spoke about
it after Game three. His head is so much straighter
than it was previously. Right, he hasn't at you after
every foul call anymore. He doesn't. He's funny. It's funny.
He's played. He plays really hard, he plays it right.

(22:07):
There was a there was amazing defensive player. There's a
time where c JM would call him him a hard
foul and needed too, a hard foul that old Jamon
would have got up, gotten his face, got teed up,
talked all the smack because he's a huge smack talker.
Instead and he felt him hard and he resently immediately
raised his hand. Mccollin walked up, picked him right up,

(22:28):
had him on the button, moved on. There's a whoa
who is this dreamon green? And it changed the series.
He will he is out to prove that this team
did not need Kevin Durant. Absolutely does not need Kevin Durant. Absolutely,
it's it's it's absol I've never seen anybody so motivated
like this and and actually pulling it off, and and
arguably this is the greatest player in in in the

(22:51):
world according to Look, you know, if you ask anybody
who is the best basketball player in the world, you know,
I think that you know, again, the smart people take
a step back and still say Lebron okay, and realize
that you're just looking at a very small sample and
influenced by the latest. The second choice would be would

(23:15):
be Kevin Durant unanimously. I don't think me unanimously. I
think you asked random people you're gonna get after Lebron James.
I think you're gonna get Kevin Durant and Steph carry both.
I think it's what you'll get, you know. I think
that again. Stephen Curry, I think has been underrated because
of Kevin Durant. I think it's clear, right. I think
it's clearer that I mean, the offense and he's gained
entirely changes well, he's been a transcendent player, you know,

(23:38):
changing he kee, He clearly has changed. And it's not
just the shooting, it's the ball handling and the release
that allows him to shoot shoot that way, and it's
just you know, it's just absolutely startling. But but but
Draymond Green is kind of like driven Kevin Durant out
the door, you know. So it really comes down to

(23:58):
I think the Clippers in and the Knicks, and you
know what I think is the interesting story that people
haven't really picked up in his human behavior speaks. Zion
Williamson hasn't signed a sneaker contract with tons of tons
of things out there. Okay, clearly he's being advised, but
he hasn't signed with an agent. The agent thing doesn't

(24:21):
matter anymore because the new rules, new rule, but he hasn't,
so that means he could leverage and saying I'm going
back to Duke within ten days of the NBA draft, Now,
why woult he signed a sneaker contract? I mean one
one reason maybe that the sneaker companies were waiting to
see where he wound up. But I doubt that because

(24:42):
he's so power. It's it's all about leverage. It's all
about leverage. So does he play leverage? No? I don't
think he does. Think I go to New Orleans quiet.
I think there's something there. I think there's something now
because I think, why wouldn't he have signed the sneaker

(25:03):
contract now? But if New Orleans calls his bluff? Does
he go back to school? Probably? No way? But noetheran
one is not going to call his bluff. Why wouldn't
they because they can afford to get nothing for him.
I'm not gonna cause his bluff and they're not gonna
want somebody there who doesn't want to play. I don't know.

(25:25):
I don't know. I I call it, but they didn't
call Anthony. You know, they sat Anthony Davis down so
they wouldn't lose his market like they didn't set him down,
and they wouldn't let them down. But that's a little
bit different, right because in the year from now, Anthony
Davis can choose to go sign wherever he wants. Zion
Williamson does not have that ability to the next four years.

(25:46):
So he wants to sit out for the next four years.
He just has to. He just says, I'm going back
to duke and shut it down any time he wants. Sure,
but he signs his sneaker contract that that he can
do science to sneak a contract, and he does exactly
what the the gig from New Balance does. There is

(26:06):
one kid who played for New Balance. I'm I'm blanking
his name. They say is the first to second round.
So you're saying, you're saying, goes back to college signed
to see your contract. It doesn't play. Yeah, could he could?
He could very very easily do that. I gotta tell you,
I don't think knew. It depends on how vociferous he
wants to be. If he wants to be a sicilist.

(26:28):
I don't think New Orleans calls his bluff. It's a
great word. We mentioned Kevin Durant, and you mentioned how
l A, New York seemed like the logical destinations for him,
and I've been on record saying Durant to New York,
Kawai to l A. And I think Kawai Leonard has
significantly increased his value throughout this postseason. He rested all year,
no back to backs, the whole deal. And I think

(26:49):
as a community we've underrated Kauhi Leonard for all those
years in San Antonio, not understanding how good of an
offensive player he could be. In a double overtime game
last night for the Rafts, it was quite no to us,
nobody else this entire postseason. If you look at it,
it's been Kauai and nobody else. Everything is on his back,
and he earned whatever contract he's gonna get, probably in

(27:11):
the Los Angeles Clippers, where he wants to play. What
have you seen it? What do you think of what
Kawai has done this postseason? And these Rafters are down
to one in their series Kawhi it is is? You
know again? I I think that when he got his
ankle rolled. There was strong arguments that he was perhaps
the best all around player in basketball. I mean, the

(27:32):
Spurs could have potentially played until that happened. I still
don't understand what happened last year. You know, it is
really you know, what injury did he have? Okay, it's
really really a strange, strange thing what happened between Apovich him.

(27:56):
I don't believe he was as injured, you know, you
talk about leverage as injured. Something set him off. And
he's a little bit of probably a interesting or different type.
I think he's very, very cerebral and and very much
you know, wired, a little bit different than the average

(28:18):
NBA superstar. And I think that anybody who thinks they
know what he's going to do may be mistaken, you know.
So I don't think you know, these insiders, you know,
the Chris Busads, the Steve Smith, Steven Smith, the people
who have befriended these players, have any insight into Kauai.

(28:39):
So we have no idea if he wants to go
back to Toronto. I mean, Los Angeles seems the most logical.
You know. I've always said that it's funny he spent
the year when he was hurt not in Los Angeles.
He spent the year here in New York was being
taken care of by Jonathan Gershun. So I have no idea.
You know, he is a perfect player for the nets,

(29:01):
by the way, very much so Okayer for the nets,
absolutely perfect player for the nets. So how do you
you know? You know, there are certain things you can predict,
like what Kylie. You know, Kyler Murray is thinking. You
can look at Zion Williamson and say, well, especially now
that the drafts over, why hasn't he signed to sneak

(29:22):
a contract? You know, unless he's looking at leverage. You know,
there's certain things. There's nothing in Kauai that you can
look at two kind of assess what what what he's thinking.
You know that Durant is gone. You know, I said
that at the beginning of the year that he is
been very much affected by the fact that Golden State

(29:44):
the Clyde Frasier that there should be asterisks next to it,
and people criticized Frasier because he was an m v P,
but was basically saying what we've all kind of thought.
You know, you added a championship player to a championship team,
and you've got two championships. I mean, what did Fraser
to say that was really something that you didn't think
Screx Sessman didn't think about so and and that's when

(30:07):
you and I spoke about like, if you can win here,
you can win anywhere, like Frank Sinatra to New York,
New York. So I think that's kind of predictable. Um,
I think again, if he's smart, the Clippers aren't that story.
The Clippers aren't a storied NBA franchise. They don't need

(30:28):
Santa Claus, you know. I mean maybe they do in
their own stay, but Santa Claus is not gonna mean
as much to the Clippers as he is going to
be in New York. So we're gonna see a lot
of what what Kevin Grant's confidence level is right now.
And I think when he left Okay see the Golden State,

(30:48):
he said, I'm a great basketball player, but I'm not
the man. And we're now we're going to see three
years later if he really wants to be the man.
He's serious. Current league hawaiis anyway, as I said to
one of miraculous performance by him, We you predicted believe
in Milwaukee sweep, I said five said five. I still
think we're on track for that. I mean, I thought

(31:12):
last night watching the game that Milwaukee was gonna pull
ahead at some point in time. Milwaukee, you know, don't
don't forget last night they got you know, I didn't
think they got a great whistle. And Giannest had twelve points,
three twelve points. But you know, Brogden's played incredibly well.

(31:32):
Rock has been fantastic and incredibly well, and Bledsoe has
been awful, George Hill has been very good. Uh And
when did brook Lope has become athletic? Uh? This year?
I mean, honestly, forget about shooting the three, which is
what everyone's talked about, but he's out guarding, he's making blocks,
he's running the court. I mean, his athleticism has increased astronomically.

(31:57):
You know, he is you know, it's hard to say,
but he's really good. You know, he's gonna make a
lot of money this offseason. He's only on a one
year contract, yes, if I'm right, Okay, a lot of money,
but money. Really, you don't think he's a more valuable
asset than the UH sixers not not been Jimmy Butler,

(32:21):
what's his name? Fromias Harris. Bias Harris from from Dick's Hills.
I don't think he's more valuable asset. I think he's
a more valuable assets. Do you think he makes more
money than Bias Harris, Well, I mean there's an age
difference and stuff like that, and I think people are
gonna be scared to max out somebody who's seven but
per year close. I mean I think that, you know,
it's hard to max out seven foot people because of

(32:45):
their injury risks, you know, much much much much higher
and stuff like that. But I think he's a more
valuable asset than Tobias Harris. I think watching that team,
I think he's become a more valuable asset than Chris Middleton,
who everyone says of the secondary who was hurt? Who
was hurt? Um Toronto more Chris Middleton or all of us?

(33:06):
What for Lopez? And Lopez has been rebounding and stuff
like that. You know, he's projecting as the modern center.
He can guard the rim, he can step outside and
hit the three, and he's playing hard. I mean, he's
much much better than he's ever been, you know, so
I think he's making himself. We talked earlier Dog has

(33:26):
if a transitioning way. We we talked earlier about dysfunction
and again not trying to be the New York based show.
Here the New York Jets once again the episode of dysfunction.
Now you've seen a lot after the draft, a organization
cleans out their scouts, right, they did their job and
they move on and never a whole new plan going in.

(33:48):
And I get that, no issue. But the York Jets
hired a head coach that was run out of Miami
because nobody liked him run out. The only person, it
seems like this guy was always Peyton Manning, who was
in every owner and general manager's ear hire my guy.
So they just hired Adam Gaze. Mike mccaguty was still

(34:11):
the general manager. Mike mccagny went nuts in free agency right,
signed c J. Mosley, signed lady On Bell, never signed
the center. But he knew his thing. Draft comes and goes,
and he hasn't had a buch success in the middle
round to the draft for the first round. It's the
guy he should probably in quinnin Wayne. People say that
he argue that he got the best player in the

(34:33):
last three years. Three years, that's right. And then right
after the draft it comes out Michael Lombardi. That's right,
Michael Lombardi, former Patriot, Bell Beligian's good friend, Michael Lombardi.
It's called what it is for general manager of the Browns.
There's this function between Mike mccagnan and Adam Gaze, And

(34:54):
after Lombardi leaks that, all the Beat reporters around the Jets, yeah,
we've heard that. That sounds about right. That's kind of
an open secret. There's tension with a guy that you
hired three months ago. Now, of course, it later becomes
clear didn't hire anybody. Christopher Johnson, the Jets owner, hire

(35:16):
Adam Gaze, and then, out of nowhere last week, the
Jets then fire Mike mccagnan and promote Adam Gaze to
the interim GM, a role he's never had before. He
that immediately trades away Darren Lee. They signed somebody today,
and Adam Gaye, who has not coached a single game

(35:38):
for the Jets, what was just run out of town
in a division rival, now has ultimate control outside of
the owner. You left out that they threw Levy and
Bell under da That's right. I apologized. You know, it's
it's you you get the most expensive asset that you have.
It leaks out that Adam Gaye never wanted Lady on

(35:59):
Bell and instead of defending that and denying, denying, denying,
then deny damn thing. He he you know again, this
is this maybe the the the the you know more
of So it's it's it's really really strange. Number one.

(36:20):
The reason to fire him now, which is a stupid reason,
is like the college basketball team that fires people, you know,
when they know they don't want the coach, but they
had like some promising recruits. You always want to you know,
Charlie Weiss theory. You know, Charlie Weiss went to Notre
Dame and he won with Tyrone Willingham players, okay, and

(36:43):
then he screwed up the Notre Dame program. He went
to Kansas and there were no players in Kansas, so
he never won a game. But but you know, again,
the first year coach at Notre Dame has always like, boy,
we got the right guy this time, you know, and
and and and gone on winning. You usually fire people
through after your ex coach had a good recruiting year,

(37:03):
so it comes in so you look pretty good. So
I think The first reason they fired him is because,
you know, the Jets most people think are better, you
know next year. Now, now let's peel back the onion
and say are they better? Because there have been some
interesting things that I've been reading that says that no

(37:24):
team that doesn't draft lineman, you know that you build
from the inside to the outside. And mcgagnan never spent
any draft capital on internal offensive lineman. And basically people
have said if with that metric, no one ever wins.
And even if you look at a lot of his signings,

(37:46):
what you know, what I've always realized in football and hockey,
which is different than basketball, is in football and hockey,
the players whose names you don't know win. Now, hockey
it's a little bit different. You need your stars to
score in the playoffs. But the people that you don't know,
your second, third, and fourth lines can't lose and and

(38:09):
and have to win their battles for you to win.
And you need a lot of death football. When you
look locally at the championships that teams like the Giants,
like the Giants won, you saw a mod the first time.
They want a mod. Brad Shore, Kevin Boss, Justin Tuk
who was a fourth round pick. You saw these guys

(38:31):
develop in front of your eyes for that to take place.
Same thing you saw with New England the players that
helped them when obviously Edelman and Brady were there, but
a lot of the players that you saw them when
you didn't hear of them the year before and and
those type of things. So I think, you know, the
Jets may have too much sizzle and not enough substance,

(38:53):
you know, and that's been the classic problem that they've had.
So the real strange thing is why not have fired
him at you know when when exaesn't ask and it
makes absolutely no sense. And now you're stuck with Adam Gaze.
So you better hope that he is, you know, without

(39:15):
the lack of word, the next Bill Belichick, meaning a
great football guy who essentially lacks charisma and you know,
but the players will respond to him. And he doesn't
win the press conference because he actually looked like he
was on psychotic meds when the Jets introduced him. Hey,
you know, he really looked like, yeah, exactly, he looked

(39:36):
like he was he was hyper thyroid on on a
really strong bad meds um. But you know what, you
don't win the press conferences. You know you don't win,
that you win by organizing your team and and the
juries out. Um, I have no idea. The Miami experience

(39:58):
is not favorable. I would give him more of a
benefit of the doubt if he had time to reflect
on the Miami experience. My concern would be when you
just get a job after the Miami experience is great,
that you don't you haven't learned from your failures. And
I think that's a huge mistake that we make in
the United States that we don't give people you can
learn as much from your failures as you're from from

(40:20):
your success. But did he have time to think about that,
time to really come through that process, or did he
just come out of that process saying I'm right, Steve
Ross is wrong and now I'm going to prove it
and do the same exact thing. The way he's handled
Levan Bell make me concerned about that is, you know,

(40:42):
taking that aside. Levyan Bell is is your your guy.
Now you know you're gonna play him, and you know what,
Lavian Bell is very articulate. He knows that you don't
have his back right now. He made his clear statement
that he's an independent you know, independent contractor for the Jets.
Right now, he's not on a team that's the Jets. Yeah,

(41:05):
you know who's So let's go to a few things.
Who's the besides Yankees? Who do that? You do that?
All this stuff though with the Jets and the Mets,
it goes away if you win always. But the Mets
can't win until there's a culture change. And it's not

(41:26):
gonna be just brody. It's got to be brody, you know,
with the ability to really change the culture and and
and and and and you know, the culture is got
to be that we want the best players in the
world to be here, just like the culture is that
for you know Manchester City, you know Austinal those teams, Yes,

(41:52):
that has to be you know, an acknowledgement to chemistry
and you know how the mix goes together. But you know,
the me to put that team together, like you know,
we need to get a second well we really can't
afford this, so you know, we'll take the thirty six
year old guy. You know, almost like the way you're
doing a fantasy lineup where you're trying to balance the

(42:12):
cost of your team, is there a certain pressureing No,
the Mets attitude has got to be until we can
get to you know, the Pennis, you know the peak.
We need the best players in the world. Unfortunately, you're
gonna wait a long time before there's another Bryce Hawker
that hits the market. Absolutely could not agree more with that.
All right, Doc, what do you got for me? As

(42:34):
we go? Where is everybody gonna wind up? Where do
you think Anthony Davis winds up? Every wanna do that?
You wanna do that already? Okay? Where are the Anthony
Davis winds up? I think Anthony Davis winds up with
the Lakers, the Clippers, Kyrie, I think. Okay, I want

(42:59):
to say that I re Is it crazy? He said
the Lakers? Yeah, I mean it would be. But it's interesting,
so you know, it's it's strange. I see the Nicks
either getting everybody or no one. I either think it
all works out for the Knicks or completely falls apart
and this is you know, you see Chris Middleton and

(43:20):
Tobias Harris or something like that. I think it either
completely works out and stuff like that. Interesting. No one's
mentioned Kemba Walker's name. I think Kevin Walker ends up
with the Knicks. I think he wants to be here
more than anything in the world, and I think that
he I prefer him to. I ree He's not as

(43:40):
much of a highlight film, but he plays every night,
and I think he is a better player. In the
last two minutes of the game where you think Kevin
during ends up, I think Kevin Duran's coming. Oh doc,
I really. I mean, I just think at this point
in time, if did Draymond Green, Basic Lee has challenged

(44:01):
him on national television for him to go anywhere but
the biggest market in the world, for him to try
to pick a compromise like the Clippers who were in
the playoffs. I just think it's like, you know, Manning
out to be perfect, perfectly saying okay, It's like you know,
Draymond Green has up the anti Okay, this is poker.

(44:23):
You say you want to be the man where you've
got an empty building, you know, an empty building to
to to fill and a fan base dying to to
see you do it. Now, the better question is will
you be able to pull it off? And that's where
we have either for another day, because because I'm not

(44:45):
I'm not convinced. As his career goes on that he's
not a better version of Carmelo Anthony, especially as you're watching,
as you're watching the way the Warriors are moving them. Sure,
and I get that reference to I get that reference
as well. What else you got? You tell me? Where
do you see everything going? Well? You? Um, you mentioned

(45:06):
the Yankees who expected to get Giancarlos Stanton back, Uh
soon enough. He actual started rehab assignment tonight and Aaron
Joe actually played cash today, So it's like, whoa, all right,
big Dane Yankee land? Uh can they hold on? Can
they survive this onslaught? It looks like they're closing in
on doing just that nice job there by Aaron Brunal
certainly some question of bullpend decisions. He's done a nice

(45:28):
job obviously overall. Um, what do you think did you
watch the p G A Championship this weekend? I did
not because it was so beautiful outside. But we got
that one right with Brooks Copy. We got out, We
got it right. Dustin Johnson, you know, seemed to be
you know, if you making a late late, late, late charge.
And you know it's interesting though, I was at I

(45:50):
went to the our country club in the golf course,
and you know, the buzz around the masts was so
much more then the buzz around and this was at
beth Page in New York. Now, the Masters is a
bigger tournament than the p G. A absolutely, but let's
face it, are you not making the cut? Kill the weekend?
Of course it did kill. The rain killed everything. Rains

(46:12):
are actually good, but it killed most things. Yes, I
mean it definitely takes the oh out of awe? You
know it definitely, it definitely does. Who's the next manager
of the New York Mets besides Greg Susman, I think
it'll be make Sosha. You do do you think you
agree with me that the reason they're gonna go with
an established guy? And I don't think in a right disagree.

(46:35):
Why do you think so is gonna take that job
after leaving California? You think like he didn't leading LEA.
He was there was fire from a Yeah, if they
adn't want anymore, I mean, his time was up with
the Angels. And I think he's always been interested in
the Mets. I think he's a not I think putting
him the National League kind of works. I think they
needed experience guys, certainly after Mickey Callaway and I basically

(46:56):
think it's gonna be Sosha who wants to manage again.
Girardi because it fits right, like he's in New York.
He doesn't have to move his families here. I think
there is some appeal to that and to be able
to try to take back the city in a way
from the Yankees. I think that appeals to Girardi as well.
I think it's Joe Girardi or my social I really do.
And when do you think they do it? Because the
other choices right Girardi. Giardi could have had a Nats job,

(47:19):
he didn't take it last year. I think Girardi either
goes to the mess of the Cubs if Joe Madden does,
will ultimately leave. When do I think they do it?
They lose tonight. I don't think you could do it.
You have this whole press conference, you stomped your feet.
I don't think you could do it tonight. I think
you have to give him more time now after this,
you have to and I don't. But I don't think.

(47:41):
I said, what are they thinking by giving them something?
Are they so delusional thinking that this team is going
to turn around? No, but I don't think that Girardi
or so should take a job on May. They don't
you give him five years? They do? You give them
enough money, They don't do anything. Are you give him
five years if they want to manage? I mean they
don't want to take it as an interim position. But

(48:02):
you give them five five years and tell them that
they replaced their bringing their staff at the end of
one year. I you know, I don't necessarily see that.
You you think that, for example, Mike McCarthy wouldn't take
a football job. You know, usually you bring people in
in the interim because you don't want to disrupt the
apple cart. I want to disrupt the apple cart. But

(48:23):
I think it's it's it's you want to start from
the beginning. You want to bring in your people. You
want to instill your ways and your methods. I think
to do it midway through the season. I think it's hard. Well,
you say, this gives you an eight month valuation, but
you but you have to give them a long enough
period so everybody knows that this is not a tryout
for them, it's to try out for you. Well, but

(48:45):
like if you're Joe Girardi and I want to can't well,
I think number one because the Mets want salvage the season.
I mean, you know, when you actually look at it,
you know, the National League East, no one has taken off,
and time you're I think six and a half out,
am I right, look it up, you're six and a
half out. And and you know, again, the Mets can't

(49:09):
afford an empty ballpark this year like last year. They
can't afford to play insignificant They can't afford to play
insignificant games this summer. It really, I mean last year
they were out of this you know. I know they
finished seventy seven and eighty five, which doesn't sound as

(49:29):
as bismal as as they were. But after May, I
mean that place was like a mussolinum, you know, unless
it was you know, Noah Sinda Sinder God bobble Head Night.
You know, no one really cared, you know type of deal.
You know, they can't afford to be irrelevant by Memorial Day.
No I cannot afford to do that. So I mean,

(49:50):
you know, if somebody wins four games and they lose
four games, they could be ten games out by Memorial Day,
which is next Monday. So I think that's that's the
real crew. You know, the real substance. What about tonight?
Golden State goes home for Golden State, Portland and the
Golden States too much for I think they complete the

(50:11):
sweet I think Portland's you know those they are demoralized
because they give him the best shot over and over
and over again, and they come back within the blink
of an eye. Although I guess Iguodala is not going
to play tonight. Which is that confirmed? I don't know,
but that's what I heard. He was questionable for tonight.
And would you play him? I mean, especially when you're

(50:32):
looking at up three nothing, if there's any question of doubt,
would you play him? I I'd probably said him. Um,
I think if you could play your plan. I think,
if you could play your plan, I mean I think
I think you really have to be a little bit
conservative here, you know. The the other the other, the
other aspect is get it over within wrestling law. Correct?

(50:52):
Do you have plenty of rest? Maybe nine days if
they can finish tonight, So maybe you're maybe you're right
from that standpoint to do that. But that gives you
a chance, you know. The interesting thing is the tough
thing to be is is Steve Kerr. Let's say you
sweep this and let's let's face it, you bring back
to Urrant, you have to bring that, bringback to Rant,
you bring back cousins. Don't don't start it. Don't start,

(51:16):
I mean, because honestly, the pace that Golden State has
played at is very, very different. I mean, I mean,
I'm gonna I'm gonna end with the two words I
just said, Carmelo Anthony, you know which is And I
don't mean this is a knock against Durant at all,
because he's a great rim god, a great, great player.
But the ball does stop when it goes to him

(51:37):
as opposed to when he's not in the game. No doubt,
he's an amazing player, both sides, both end of the court.
Carmello was not both end of the court dressing, you know.
But Karmelo, honestly, a lot of people in basketball said
one on one unstoppable offense, and it's in in his time,
just like they say now about James and Kevin Durant.

(51:58):
So you know, that's why the second question is, you know,
when he comes to the Knicks win, I mean obviously
more than fifteen games. I mean that you don't have
to be a brilliant to figure that out. But but
do they really go to the Promised Land with him?
I think, as Nick fans, our answer hopefully is yes
with Brook Lopez, No, that's gonna do for us here

(52:21):
on Doc Chock has been an absolute blast hanging out
with you tonight, doc Enjoy the show's check out all
of our other shows here on demand. Just search the
YouTube search bar for Doc Chock. He's Mitchell Rosalind, I'm
Greg Susman. Have a wonderful night. Enjoy Game number four
between the Blazers and the Warriors. Can the Blazers hang
on unless you're going into city Field tonight. No one's

(52:43):
gonna Sity Fields tonight. No one's going And see you
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