March Madness, Antonio Brown to OAK, James Dolan

Dr. Mitchell Roslin is joined by Gregg Sussman to discuss the start of March Madness, Antonio Brown traded to OAK, and James Dolan

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You own network. What is off? Everybody, Welcome inside studio.
This is Doc Joque alongside Dr Mitch rosalind I am

(00:21):
Greg Susman. Doc. What's going on? Everything is good? How
are you? I'm here. I'm here, which is a good thing.
Out of jury do how did jury duty free for
the next six years? Doc? What did you tell him
that you knew a lot of doctors? And it was
it was like all malpractice case Now I did not.
I told them was in the insurance business. I told
them that was like listen, I'm producing. I got a

(00:42):
host of show all week long. I'm producing shows all
week long. I gotta go. And they're like, all right,
we're back to the pool. And they're like, all right,
you're out, beautiful. There you go, and here I didn't lie.
I stuck by my oath. We're all good. See. Usually
like if you can think, sometimes they don't want you injuries.
You know, whether you're analytical, Uh, you're absolutely right speaking analytical.

(01:03):
Over the next hour, we're gonna break down everything for
NFL free agency to Bryce Harper's decision, to what's going
on in college basketball as well. But I want to
start in the NFL, where Antonio Brown played it really well,
Doc didn't he well, you know, he got what he wanted.

(01:23):
He go and and well, you know what I criticized
Antonio Brown for is you gotta be there on Week sixteen, seven,
Week seventeen. You know, I meant the sixteenth game for
the for the for the Steelers. Um. I think that,
you know, the NFL has to sit back and look

(01:43):
at what what they want with these transition tags and
these franchise tags, because I think that you and I
both see the and Bell situation where he's called a
lot of flak, and you know what, I give him credit.
He didn't sign a contract that he didn't like. He
preferred to take the risk to have more guaranteed money

(02:05):
than just the one year payout. And you're seeing more
and more of that in a whole bunch of different sports.
You look at Bryce Harper, we talked about Bryce Hawper
should have taken a lot of money on a short
term deal that a lot of teams would have, but
he wanted to guarantee for a long time. So it
seems it seems unjust for example, that the top football

(02:26):
players that are looking for security have no way of
getting that security. But I think the the Antonio Brown
situation is just crazy, and it goes to that we
really don't want to criticize Mike Tomlin because he won

(02:46):
a Super Bowl, because the Steelers are there, But to
be honest, they have probably been for the level of
talent that they've had, the least productive franchise potentially the
NFL when you actually look at you know, having the
Hall of Fame quarterback, arguably one of the best running backs,

(03:08):
a terrific offensive line most years, a inn acceptable defense,
and they have absolutely nothing to show for it on paper.
They've been a better team than the Patriots for a
number of years. Yes, No, they've had the stars for
a number of years. As you said, two most underperforming

(03:30):
teams in the NFL for the last five years I
think have been the Green Bay Packers in the Pittsburgh Stealer.
I don't disagree with that, but I wouldn't say that
I want I don't want to go to legs that
they are better than the Patriots. I I can't see
that over the last they're not better than the Patriots.
I've got by by definition I said, talent wise, talent wise,
talent wise, I mean, you know, you started with free agency,

(03:52):
the Patriots will be playing their third left tackle. Okay,
you know, I you know, I may want to take
some steroids and try out. You know, it seems like
a seventy million dollar proposition. Eight Soldier Brown they picked
up for basically an exchange of draft picks from San
Francisco for basically nothing. He is now the highest paid
offensive lineman in the NFL. Um It says a lot

(04:17):
about their offensive line coach. It says a lot about
their system, how they can play. I mean, if you
look at the start and going off topic with Antonio
Brown and the start of free agency, they've lost their
best pass rusher, arguably one of their best linemen, you know,
and we're a second in and no one's back bat
in an eyelash. If that happened to any other team,

(04:39):
it would seem like it's an overall catastrophe. Yeah. Absolutely,
that's what it makes the that makes the Patriots in
general so good. Going back to to Antonio Brown, that's
been a circus. You know, Ben Roethlisberger being on the
air doing what you and I are doing. I guess
they they figure, if you know, quarterback is probably more

(04:59):
app propos than the doctor. But you know, talking about
what's in the locker room, and I'm not talking about
doing the Eli Manning report on w f A N
where everything is is positive. I mean, he's thrown people
underneath the bus. Comland seems like he doesn't have any
control of the circus. Antonio Brown. You know, I I

(05:21):
would have been more scared of his off the field
stuff like the apartment in Miami where things were thrown out,
all of these other things that have come into play,
but one thing on the football field, he's been absolutely brilliant.
And you know he got his guaranteed money, so you know,

(05:42):
job well done. But now you look at Oakland, who
went out and signed the offensive tackle from New England
for sixteen million dollars. I don't know what the cap
hit is. Um they're already paying Derek Carr. I believe
in the twenty million dollar range, and they have Antonio
Brown is the highest period wide receiver in football, so

(06:04):
I guess that has to be about, you know, roughly
salary cap right there. Yeah, I mean I know that
the Raiders are doing and not a clue in the world.
I just go back to Antonio Brown holding out doing
they're doing the wrong thing in all honesty in weeks seventeen,
being so frustrated and disgusting. And I usually take the

(06:25):
players signing this like they deserve to get paid. I
understand that UM and the owners will cut them the
second they're not productive. So I understand trying to get
the most money, and I I do recording on your
team not a great look. And then they he meets
with the owner and meets with the Rooney's and said, hey,
I want to be traded. Fine, but then it's just like,
all right, well, you know, traded to Buffalo. No, I'm

(06:46):
not gonna get traded to Buffalo because I want a
new contract and I'm not gonna show up if I
don't get my new contract. And as you have said,
well you signed it, you signed the contract. I want
more money now. And then the Raiders giving up just
the third and a fifth for argument the best in
the league, blow up their cap as you just mentioned
four and Tonio Brown, who is an aging wide receiver,

(07:07):
the best wide receiver, but an aging wide receiver, and
all this is going to make you think he's like,
all right, the next wide receivers are gonna do the
same thing, and the next great running backs to do
the same thing, and the next quarterbacks will do the
same thing. Well, we're at we're at a dangerous you know,
there are certain things that are very dangerous in sports,
and people have talked about the risk of concussions. Obviously

(07:28):
that's a threat to football. But one of the major things,
you know, the word fan means fanatic, and it it's
we root for the shirt. And why do we root
for the shirt because there's a certain mystique, there's a
certain thing that happens to us. But when people like
Jacob Degram starts saying, you know, I'm a car, okay,

(07:51):
you leased me for twelve thousand miles, okay, and in September,
I'm not gonna pitch more because I don't want to
go to twelve thousand, five hundred miles because you've only really,
you've only paid me for reasonable wear and tear. And
I perfectly understand the n c a A players not

(08:13):
exposing themselves to Bowl game like you know, two things.
And we talked about Zion Williams. We said it said, well,
you know, he has to play basketball. He's better off
playing a supervisor. He's not gonna get better because and
I sympathize with them because other people are making a
lot of money. But when they start taking off games,
when did the Brams say, We're only gonna pitch this

(08:34):
much unless you give me a contract. When Antonio I
have Antonio Brown doesn't play in the last game of
the season with his team, I find that much more angering.
Then when Levian Bell says, you know what, I'm not satisfied.
I'm not playing. And you know what's incredible, I think
you and I are the only ones who was saying that.

(08:56):
Everybody else, just you know, says he's a bad guy.
You know, he he blew fourteen million dollars, he's selfish.
I think he decided he'd rather have a guarantee. I
think he made a business decision. And you know what,
he didn't quit on his team. He felt he didn't
get the offer that he deserved. That then he manned
up and he took the consequences. So I'd rather that

(09:16):
than Antonio Brown. I'm totally with you. He he took
a stand. Ultimately, he took a stand, and he may
cost himself, or find out the next couple of days
if he cost himself. But he took a stand and
it heard him in his pocket Antonio brad to not
do that right and and and you know he he
basically said, I don't want to take the risk of

(09:38):
being that guy who's out on the market. Um, what's
the linebacker who just signed with Tampa Bay that Tampa
Bay signed towards a cl IS leading league wine one, Alexander.
I don't want to be Kwan. Alexandra's a running back. Well,
Alexanders made a lot of money, he did. You know,
it worked out for him, But he said, I don't
want to be Kwan Alexander's a running back. I don't

(10:00):
want to take the chance of not having the guaranteed
money and playing for the franchise tag. I don't know
if that's that terrible of a decision. You know, it's
interesting and ultimately, you do you bank on yourself? Do
you trust yourself? Well, we always forget that this is

(10:25):
life changing money in general, Like that's fifteen million dollars
on that tag or so that's life changing money in
general potentially. But if he was you a kid, what
would you tell him to do? Do I tell him
to sit out or take the fifteen million dollars just
using fifteen around number. Ok you you you Let's say
you're you're year four in the league. Say he's had

(10:47):
two other concussions, per se, Okay has certain Nixon knacks
because I want a guaranteed contract. Okay, and they franchise
him and don't offer him a guaranteed contract. I mean
it seems like you're getting I think that they should

(11:07):
move the franchise tag to three years. I think that,
you know, I think you're essentially, lack of a better word,
screwing some of your top performers. If they performed slightly less,
they would get more guaranteed. Yes, they're being paid at
the top of their field, but they're not getting the
job security that a lot of people are looking for. Yes,

(11:31):
and everyone goes to Kirk Cousins. But let's face the quarterbacks.
The quarterbacks are protected. I mean, quarterbacks are prett well,
they are in the ace right like you have a
devastating he needs you know, like Alex Smith just did
you screwed? Right? But we we even talked about most
quarterbacks the NFL was, with the exception of a few,
they were fairly successful in getting you know, obviously going

(11:53):
to have Nix and Nicks, but they were fairly successful
in getting Patrick Mahomes to the finish line, Jarek Goff
of the finish line, Tom Brady to the finish line,
Aaron Rodgers didn't make the playoffs. You know, Cousin Wentz
gets hurt every single year. But by and large, most
teams finished the year with their starting quarterback with Obviously,
the biggest one that was gone for the entire year

(12:14):
was Jimmy Garoppolo. That was really you know, that really
took the rug out from underneath the forty That that
that crushed them obviously for the four Niners and the
quarterback injury, no doubt about it. I think that was
really the c I mean, Alex Smith was the worst injury,
but that was the team. The only team that could
say that the season was destroyed by losing their starting

(12:38):
quarterback this year, in my estimation, was the San Francisco
forty Diners. YEP, I believe you're right. Yeah, just going
through my head here, I think so. No, nobody's affected
like that. Obviously, now can Eagle The Eagles are interesting?

(12:59):
Is they they lost that quarterback to that they lost
their quarterback. Speaking of their quarterback, I said breaking news
A while looking down down Nick Foles, how much of
you you got from Jackson mill? And I don't have
a guarantee here, I only have the number eighteen million
a year. Hm. How much do you think eight Mills guaranteed?
Your signed eighteen million a year three years, there's sixty

(13:21):
four million. How much of that has guaranteed? You do
you think? I think guaranteed? He got forty million guaranteed.
Very close. He signed for four years, eight million dollars.
The guarantee fifty fifty million dollars for Nick Foles. Well,

(13:42):
you know, he won a Super Bowl, he won a
Super Bowl, he played well last year, and they made
a commitment to him. I mean it may make like
what I was going to say, A you know, while
on the subject of quarterbacks, I'm gonna speak for every

(14:03):
single Giant fan. Okay, the Giants have not won a
game in September that I can remember in the last
two years. They want September of this year, beat the
their own three and beat the Texans last, and then
then then then they you know, went then they went
one seven. Okay. Essentially, the Giants have proven that Eli

(14:30):
Manning is not good enough overcome a mediocre roster clearly, Okay,
Giant fans have watched Shaun Watson's, They've watched Randall Cunningham's,
they have watched every single quarterback. I don't think anybody
can remember a Giant quarterback running for a first down

(14:52):
in a hundred in a hundred years now. I do
think that the most important thing is how they throw
and deliver the ball with some degree of escapability. It
is really really frustrating when you listen to Dave Gettleman
and Pat Chermans speak and they talk about a succession
plan and things like that succession means that they have

(15:13):
a starting quarterback. The New York Giants are paying their
largest cap figure to somebody who's not good enough at
this point of his career, and potentially wasn't it other
points in his career, but picked it was an incredible
big game player, Okay, to give a significant amount of

(15:36):
their salary cap. In the immortal words of people who
have been general managers before, I think the Giants could
be six and ten and pay less than twenty million
dollars at the quarterback position. I don't know what they're thinking.
I have to agree with you know, I usually don't.
But I have to agree with Mike Francessor on this one.

(15:59):
The Giants making a huge mistake. If they draft the
quarterback and bring Eli back, it's like throwing out you know,
the season, find somebody cheap, go out and get a
Josh Rosen and move on from Eli. You know what
the Giants are gonna do right now is they are
going to burn the Beckham and Balkley years and not

(16:21):
have a defense. And by the time they get a
defense and a quarterback, those guys are gonna be toast.
And that's the worst thing to possibly happen. Absolutely, it's
a disaster. Here's an utter disaster. Not telling me anything,
I are already now, but it's stupid team. I mean,
you know, so take you know, if you really believe
and against all Odge and and I had to tell you.

(16:43):
The problem would bring Eli back is if the Giants
the most important game of the season is the first
game the Giants played, the Giants go oh in one.
That's like oh and four for everybody else after the
last two years, okay, with Elie back, and if they
go ohen two, you can just about right off another season.

(17:04):
And you know, again, they probably have to write off
the season because they possibly have the worst defensive line
in football. You can't even name a player on their team,
um on their defensive line at this point in time.
You know, Vernon was absolutely awful, but he still had
fun more sax than anybody else on the team last year.

(17:25):
So you know, where are they going to get a
pass rush for him? They let Landon Collins walk, which
I don't necessarily disagree with. I know Washington signed him.
He made a ton of money as well, and it's interesting,
but you know, I always looked at Landon Collins as
being very valuable. But he's not a safety. He's not

(17:49):
He's not a safety in the traditional line, you know,
traditional type. He's more of a hybrid linebacker. And I
I you know, again, if you're gonna pay him that
much money, you must have an idea of how to
use him because he can't cover, you know, a Jewish
kid from Brooklyn. You know, he really is terrible in coverage.

(18:14):
But he is a great tackler and I always thought
he was a good blitzer, although they said, you know,
his stats said that he had no sacks last year,
but he seemed to have a lot of pressures and
stuff like that. So the thing with Landon Collins isn't
so much that the Giants decided to let him walk.
That's okay if he doesn't feed your scheme and you
don't have any interers in paying him the eighty million dollars, okay,

(18:37):
Well they could have just franchised him, and sure you
could have done that. He could have and he could
have set out like living on belvet and distraction. I
don't even kill them for that. Doc Well bothers me
with the Giants and how they handed Lendon Collins if
they weren't going to extend him and they knew this,
he didn't fit. Take the fourth round draft pick, Take
the fourth round draft pick, take the fourth round draft

(18:58):
pick exactly. Well, you know, again, the Giants were the
only people that believe that they were going to come
back last year and make the playoffs, you know, and
and and and and it was absolutely insane to trade
Eli Apple of all of all people. I mean, you
know who's still on his rookie can and contract, and
you know the people that they chose to get rid of.

(19:18):
What's kind of unusual. And we haven't heard the Giants
in free agency yet, which tells me that they're going
to basically sign like eight minor. People know, there's a
lot of listen, there's a lot of guys out there
still were here. You're hearing some names come off the
port early when you get to that a moment. But giants,
there's plenty of talents still out there. I'd side yeah.

(19:40):
I mean I think that they're they're looking at at
basically a Shmogus board of a lot of you know,
what they think of diamonds in the rough, And you know,
so far Geentleman's diamonds in the Rough have been very
rough about it, um no doubt about it. And he's
been a good draft to which is interesting. All right,

(20:01):
we'll say you have so little faith in Dave Gettleman. Well,
I agree with you. I think it's it's like everybody
else's good. You know, major analytics going on, and you know,
he's still watching, He's still watching tapes and I don't
even know what he's watching. Well, it's VCR, is what
he's doing. He's putting in the VCR. It doesn't it
doesn't work, So he's not watching anything. That's that's kind

(20:23):
of the problem. Well, you mentioned all these deals Nick Foles,
Antonio Brown that was a trade, but Trey Flowers, somebnfits
of Lineman, Landon Collins. All these names have been announced
that they're headed to different teams in free agency. Here's
the problem. Doc agency hasn't started yet. It starts Wednesday
at four o'clock. And this is what's called the legal
tampering period. We could talk to players and come to

(20:43):
contract terms, but not side of the dotted line. The
obvious question I have for you is what's the point
of it? No idea. I'm very confused by it. Well,
you know what I also was very confused about is
that I always thought a dead money was the money
that you still owed a player when you cut right. Okay,
this money when you trade them as well, kay, and

(21:04):
that becomes your dead money. So how does Antonio Brown
have twenty one million of dead money and not have
any guaranteed money? I don't know. It must have been
in his signing bonus, I don't I don't know that. Never.
They must have taken his signing bonus and amateurize that
over the course of the contract, and then it becomes

(21:25):
dead money if he doesn't fit. I I can't understand
that didn't make sense to me, how you because I
always thought the dead money was the guaranteed money left.
I don't know, I don't know, but you know, you
know again, I don't know how it worse. I wish
I did. I mean to me, I found that very
very strange. But it's like, you know, they've what the

(21:47):
NFL has done is they've they've created these three days
to kind of be like another mini draft, so that
we're not talking you know, we're not talking about the
n c A, we're not talking about Lebron James. We're
talking about the NFL free agency. So it's kind of
exactly what I expected, in all honesty, um of your response.

(22:07):
I mean, they want to just drow off interest and
have everyone talking about the NFL and not spring training
in the NBA and all eyes are on the NFL.
And I get that that's fine, but if you made
it legal, legal, anything would happen. We'd all be sitting
here talking about the NFL. Well different, It's like a

(22:28):
lot of things in this country. Like you know, I
was always surprised when I found out and and and
and and I have a lot of compassion for illegal
immigrants because they believe they here because we want them here.
But it seems ironic that you can get a driver's
license legal, So so if you're illegal, you should think
you're illegal, but you know you're not illegal. So so

(22:50):
it's kind of like, I I don't know how lawyer's
figure this stuff out. It's really really kind of kind
of ironic. Let's go to the nuts and bolts. If
you're the Giant, are you bringing Eli back? Yeah? Yeah,
at this point, I'm I'm doing the Ghettoman plan. Like then, then,

(23:10):
are you're drafting a defensive lineman in the in the
first round? Wraft a quarterback in the first round? Are
you gonna head you back? I'm gonna I'm gonna do
a Ghettoman said, which is annoying that he said this
out loud. But yeah, I mean they should have drafted
one last year and there are four of them went
in the top ten. En. Yes, that'd that'd be the
top option on the board. Trade for Rosen and my

(23:30):
number one option as a Giants. If I traded for Rosen,
I'd say bye bye to Eli. I don't mind keep
eat like fine, you know you you know what he's
the problem. You don't have enough players with the salary cap.
See this is this is this is what the Patriots understand.
And I brought up Oakland and in the same thing,
and this is the problem that the Giants are gonna have.

(23:53):
You don't win having necessarily the best, best players. You
win by having the best team that you can get
under the salary cap. Okay, the reason young quarterbacks have
become so advantageous is so that you don't have to
pay them eighty eight million dollars for Nick Foles and

(24:14):
you can have more more players. You know, Brady has
never counted in the top ten in the salary cap.
New England allowed their starting left tackle and their best
pass Russia to walk out the door. Why because it's
not that they're not good players, it's because they're not

(24:36):
worth that that percentage of their salary cap solute. You know,
when you say they're not worth that money, I disagree
with you. You're worth whatever anybody's gonna pay you when
I do that. But they're not worth you know, they
decided that that Trey Flowers is not worth six percent
of their salary acount. That's the decision that they made.

(24:58):
He's twenty five years old, best years in front of
him is not worth that percentage of the salary cap.
We need to put three people in place. We talked
about their offensive line when we went through the numbers
last year. They didn't have the highest paid offensive lineman
last year. I believe against the cap was the right
guarded somewhere between six to eight million dollars. They do

(25:21):
not believe that their left tackle okay, especially with Win
coming back from an injury. But that's a strange injury
to have as a young kid. Usually achilles tendon injuries,
aware and tear unless somebody really stepped on you, you know,
type of deal. But they have wind coming back, and
they're gonna slide wind right into the left tackle position.
They do not believe. So fifteen million dollars is roughly,

(25:46):
you know, four percent of your salary cap. Absolutely right,
You're you're, you're, you're absolutely right. Not worth, not worth
the cap, not worth the percentage of the cap. And
that's what people have, and that's what fans have to
begin to ask themselves. So when you asked me about
Eli Manning, my problem with Eli Manning at twenty one

(26:07):
million dollars is that is roughly welve tocent of my
salary cap, but twelve to percent of my salary cap.
You have to make my other players better. You're right,
I get it. I'm with you on this. Dave Gett

(26:27):
on the elim anything, I get it. He doesn't. Oh,
he's the GM and we're just talking. And you talk
about that, like, look at the Redskins now the amount
of money they have in their defensive backs. Landon Collins,
Josh Norman both cut of course by Dave gettman himself. Yeah,
Josh Norman tweeted something about that, tweeted something about that.

(26:52):
All right, let me um, let me move on a
bit to another. By the way, let's go one with
Steph Jets are they gonna do? Ll? Jesseph signed James
and Crowder thus far a good signing, very good sign
Seven team mill guaranteed is a number that I think
I saw how many years? Uh three? Let me let

(27:13):
me just twenty and a half million, seventeen guaranteed over
three years. That's that's fine. He's a good slot. As
long as he's healthy, he helps that team. You know,
I think that's a very very reasonable signing. He is
a pain in the butt to cover. He is a
good slot receiver. Um. You know, you know, I think

(27:38):
he's got a higher upside than Cole Beasley. But you
know what I like about Cole Beasley is he shows
up every single week. Yes, Well, we've talked a lot
about um the owners and spending money and whatnot here
in New York. The big story is yeah, NFL free agency,

(27:58):
no doubt about it. But j stolen as well. We've
talked about James Dolan on our show before and he
spends money here at the checkbook. He's never shied at that.
But he has a stigma around him that he's just
a truly terrible, terrible, terrible owner in person and whatnot.
And he made waves yesterday when someone shouted on himself.
The team kicked him out and said you're banned for life.

(28:19):
It's got very thick skin, it seems James Dolan has.
What do you think about that story? Doc? Go through more,
tell me more. That's the stories. Basically, he was sitting
courtside Nicks were losing again. He walked back through the
tunnel and audience member fans said sell the team, and
they said, well, what did you say to me? And
you guys tell the team. He's like have fun watching

(28:40):
at home. You're banned from our stadium and tell the
security can come out. James Stolen is a perpetual rich
kids child, Okay, you know, you know, he's an annoying
person on you know, like anybody else. He's done some
good things like the lust God and found a San
Lenny LUs Goden God in Hope for charities. Um, but

(29:05):
deep down he's a bore. He's a bore, he's a
bully and he you know, he is someone who if
he wasn't born in a silver spoon, and yes, I understand,
you know, he his not that dissimilar to somebody that
lives in Washington, d C. Right now, to be perfectly

(29:27):
honest in my book, although the person who lives in Washington,
d C. Does not have the drug addiction issues that Dolan's. No,
not that we know of anyway. Um, I would actually
say that Pitt conclusively. But that is exactly you know,
bullish behavior. Um, they took their father's money and made

(29:49):
more money. But if you actually look at that, you
have to put that into perspective because if you were
rich during the Reagan years, if you just did absolutely
nothing but kept up with the Joneses, you are filthy
rich today. You know, if you were up in middle class,

(30:09):
you went from rich from the Reagan years. So some
of it is when you have these assets. Yes, God
and is worth a ton of money and and things
like that, but he is just you know, he is
no one who would have gotten where he's gotten in
a true meritocracy. Yeah, he's the pots pots and you know.

(30:35):
But on the other hand, I find it hard. And
I know it's the popular story that it's because of
Dolan that the Knicks haven't won, and I guess you
can draw that back to the Carmelo Anthony trade. But
right now I think he's you know, he's been hands
off with Glenn Say they're in the Rangers. You know,

(30:57):
Glenn say, there has been there for a hundred years,
you know, now now Gordon is there. So I think
that he is letting Harry and Steve Mills run the show. Um.
I don't necessarily know that Steve Mills is the right guy, um,

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but he I think he has become hands off in
the question. I think the question that you're asking is
the people like Durrant not come here because they don't
want to be associated with this idiot and I think
it's a very fair question. I think the fact is
you're right. In recent years he's been handing off. He says, listen,
you wanted Philip Jackson. I gave you Philip Jackson. I
didn't do anything. It's not my fault he sucked. You

(31:40):
wanted Phil Jackson gone. Phil Jackson's gone. You have the
two new guys. So my fault. Christophs person has wanted
out of here. I had nothing to do with it. Now,
whether that's sure or not, whether he's doing everything he
can as an owner, I'm not sure. But the way
you consistently handle people that have criticized him shows exactly
what you're speaking of. Jeff Van Gundy goes on TV

(32:02):
and criticizes the Knicks a lot. He's never received the
hometown welcome. Charles Oakley obviously famously spoke out against the
Knicks in the Garden. He was kicked out and accused
of being an alcoholic, which James Dolan certainly shouldn't be
the one doing well. Lebron James I said, I'm never
I'm never playing this there for Phil Jackson or for
that man. James Dolan, Well Duran and Kyrie and all

(32:23):
the other players think differently. Maybe maybe in New York
is big enough brand, but I we'll never unders like
if it was me and the owner and someone chance
that might teams stunk, it was the worst team in
the NBA, and someone in my building said sell the team.
You suck. Nothing he said you suck, but that they
said that, you know, sell the team, you suck. My

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response would have been just keep walking. Rember one, I
want I kept walking, And number two, I would have
released the statement saying I feel your pain. All I
want to do is win. I will do everything I
can to win. We're in this together. And I think
the great fans of New York City that continue to
show up despite my of certainly high prices, I think
you just keep honestly, you you you you, you keep walking,
because I don't think people ever really hear that, but

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they you make it, and you make it an issue.
You come off as a bully. James Dolan comes off
as a bully. This is no different than when you
were kids. I'm taking my ball and I'm going right. Okay,
what owners should realize in sports. I don't think Dolan
has the the abstract thought process. Understand this, and you

(33:37):
know even if you look at Oakley's things, he was saying,
because he acted this way, this is what I saw
in seven steps. He has to be an alcoholic. He's
he is not a very very bright when you listen
to him. He is not capable of of of you know,
of abstract thought. But owners have to real lies. It's

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different than owning your own car, which is for your
own use. And even with a car, you have to
follow the public's road. What you really own when you
own a team is you own a license. And your
viewpoints should be that the town owns the team, even
if it's not true on paper. That should be your

(34:21):
philosophy that this is everybody's team because it's New York
that makes the Knicks, not the Dolan fam. Okay, absolutely so.
So the first thing you understand is is that you
know it's it's that you know certain things have to
be about you know, the patients, So certain things have

(34:44):
to be about the customers or certain you know. Great
ceo s understand how to please their share own the shareholders.
They have to look at the town of New York
is being the shareholders, the group owners of the franchise.
That's called the Knicks, and as you as the owner
of the carekeeper, you're the carekeeper of the tradition. It's

(35:09):
not your ball, it's not your car, it's not your house.
You're the caretaker of the value of the franchise is
what all of us in New York give it. Absolutely
and I don't think he has got the capability of
the intellectual ability to think past that, as opposed to
I have the title, therefore it is mine totally totally

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agree with that, of course, is Doc John. That's Mitchell Rosalind.
I'm Greg Susman. I want to get away from New
York for a moment. I wanted to head to Philadelphia,
where Bryce Harvard finally did ultimately sign with Philadelphia Phillies.
Thirteen years, three hundred fifty million dollars, about twenty five
or so million dollars a year, not all that much
different from the per year guarantee that Alex Rodriguez got,

(35:51):
and that was quite a long time ago. Now Bryce
Harvard does not have an outdout clause, and he's spun
it very beautifully saying I wanted to commit somewhere long
term as long as they would commit to me no
trade cause of course, for Bryce Harper in that deal,
DAC will throw this to you, I do you think
you did? Oh? I think he did really really well.
I mean I really think you know, it's it's you.

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You'd have to be a moronic baseball person to think
that you're really signing somebody for thirteen years. The idea
of the thirteen year contract was just to say, you're
probably honestly believed he's twenty six years old. Do you
honestly believe that you're signing him to eight to ten years?
And the years on the back end are just really
like deferred. It's like the Mets Bobby Benio payments. You know,

(36:35):
they just they just they just they just deferred. They
just deferred money. I think that though, you know, again
we played the drill where we said where are you
now in two thousand and ten, I think that so
many things can happen there that from a business standpoint,
I don't think that I had ever signed those contracts.

(36:56):
But I think that John Middleton has decided that, you
know what, we are going to make Philadelphia a destination team,
and we were going to make a statement, and he
was bent on doing it. And you know, there may
be such an upside with revenue coming in that being
relevant makes sense. What I've made this point about other

(37:20):
teams that you look at, you know, two market teams
you look at you look at the Mets and the Yankees.
You know a lot of people think that the Yankees
are worth more because of the twenty seven World serious,
but you know what, when I was young, New York
was in National League town, the Giants and the Dodgers
were dominant. The Mets used to outdraw the Yankees right

(37:40):
up until the end of the sev years and then
the you know, then Steinbrowner came in. The Yankees was
sold forro versically nothing to see from when CBS on
the Yankees, Gaye Paul, Yankees with people who are saying
that they never go to people never go to a
stadium in the Bronx, You're looking at me like listen

(38:00):
undocks expression. No, I Yankees was sold for thousand dollars,
Gay Paul. Back then, nothing, people said, the Bronx is dead,
the Bronx is burning. You know you no one wanted
to go to the Bronx and look at the Cowboys
sold for right, Jerry Jones and what brand that has
become so it's you look at how how perceptions changed

(38:24):
in from from my time to your time, when New
York is a National League city to now the Mets
are second rate franchise in the first rate city. Undoubtably,
Undoubtably I give John Middleton credit. Unlike James Dolan right
going out closing the deal, bringing his wife, and making

(38:45):
Bryce Harper feel at home. Not only did he spend
the stupid money that he promised his city and his
team that he would, he made sure it happened he
closed the deal. James Dolan spends plenty of stupid money.
That's not the issue. It's being able to lose the deal,
and John Middleton made that happen. They spent a lot
of money this offseason, improving both their hitters and their

(39:07):
relief pictures. They you don't need some starters, but hey,
they're trying, and I think it's all you asked for.
So I really always liked Bryce Happer a lot better
than Manny Michado, And I know that people talk about
the two thousand and fifteen was his really great year,
and since then, you know, he's his wins over replacement
has been barely went added too. But you know, I

(39:28):
actually think he's gonna pop live the time in the Phillies.
Two or three of those type of I carry a
team years. I don't think Manny Machado can ever poppy.
Ye know like that. That's the difference between those two players.
And that's reasonable, um, But you can make the case
that Mammy is the better player on a saw on

(39:51):
a year to year basis. I think he's more consistent
in what place has Baltimore finished every year? That's not
true that they finished the last they made the playoffs
a coup years, Yeah they did. But what one of
the years he made the playoffs was the year he
got his knee was injured. You know, there's at the
beginning of the buckshell, what the use? I just don't think, man,
I think Bryce Happer is one of the few players

(40:12):
in the team that can carry a team for you know,
it's I've always made this comment. It's hard to explain
in baseball, Okay, locally, the metsro had been a different
team with Cespedis plays and Sespicis doesn't play, okay, and
it's not because of his numbers. So there's something about
game changing players, okay, And and can know is a

(40:37):
much better hitter than Cespicist will ever be. But I'm
not sure that he can change the game. Like like Cespicis,
Ryce Happer is one of those game changing players, especially
when he gets on his street. Like last year was
a badge here, Okay, I don't you know. And this
is one of the problems that the Yankees have. The

(40:58):
Yankees have, you know, maybe be Judge will become. The
Yankees don't have the player that I think can hit
good pitching. I always looked at Bryce Harper when he
when he locks in. He's a tough out with the
game on the line, and you know, I think that
he can he can wreck a season, you know. Like
I said, I think he'll wreck too. You know, I

(41:20):
don't think he's gonna wreck every season, you know, but
I think he's gonna wreck two or three seasons in
that contract. We'll see, obviously, we'll see Manny gets the
three hundred million, gets the opt out a very different contract.
Who drive whose contract? Would you rather have? Both the
owner's perstructive, I mean, from the owners perspective, I drive
that Bryce Harper's contract, I mean Machado, you know, you know,

(41:40):
may put it in in his three years if he's actually
as good as stated. He opts out and tries and
sees where the money is and gets more money. Excuse me,
but I think you know Bryce Harper at least as
committed to that team. And you know now he's trying
to recruit my trout tavering of course, but good for them.

(42:00):
That's fun. Like I like it. I'm in on it,
you know. Listen. The other thing is Ice Happer has
some personality. Baseball is lacking a lot of personality. You know,
you know, the most famous baseball player in the world
still Derek Jeeta. I want to that maybe a rod

(42:22):
because you got engaged to the two of them, right,
Like I've gone around. I've done this before. I went
around a random people in the restaurant that we're at,
random people in the lobby upstairs, like an Navy favorite
baseball player, Derek Derret Jeter now sangery guess to this
day the name baseball player, I just say, name a
baseball player. It's Derek Jeter. And actually, I mean, you know,

(42:42):
the Major League Baseball should be like have Aaron Judge
on every single goddamn thing in the in the world
because most people, you know, the kid Hicks that throws
the hunter three of mile on our fafter. No one
knows his name, No one knows who he is. You know,
you know Jose too, No one knows who he is.

(43:04):
You can go down the list. You know, baseball has
got a huge problem. You know, kids don't walk around
wearing baseball jerseys, not at all. It's a huge, huge problem.
I think Bryce Harper is one of those guys that
Kennedy transcendent, that can be the face of the game
that people will know. I think, yeah, he's one of
the few. I mean, you know, football doesn't even have

(43:26):
that many. Beckham is one of them. Absolutely absolutely football has.
Football has the helmet, right, that's why it makes the NBA.
So has the barriers, and football has the quarterbacks. You know,
Brady Rogers. But if you take away the quarterbacks, I mean,
I think that Beckham is is probably the number one

(43:47):
name probably, so I would say, so he's got that,
you know, the New York thinks still a thing, the hair,
the attitude. Yeah, he's making himself very well, very smartly,
very very smartly. Um let me move on to college
basketball because the See Tournament are really having a tough

(44:09):
run yet gone we uh conference tournament week is here.
We've already had Murray State get in, which is great
for the game. John Moran gets into the tournament, which
is fantastic. Everyone's comparing him to Damian Lillard. See that's
an obvious but in comparison, right because small schools uh
stylish point guard the whole deal. Um. I don't think

(44:30):
he shoots it as well, really not, but maybe when
he gets the NBA he will. That's okay. Um. Tonight,
Iona and Mama face off for the for the MAC Championship.
Two teams that started the season like owing twelve and
two and ten inside their conference now in the finals.
Team Clues wasn't once again a fantastic job at at Iona.

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And then the big school the big conferences will start
mostly tomorrow, which is very very sudy Wednesday as well,
you know, they and they have the buys and and
stuff like that, and a great week, great great week
though for college basketball, and then of course the tournament
starts next week. I love the n c A Tournament.
I think I think, honestly the best day in sports

(45:10):
on the Thursday Friday of the NA especially when you
can you know, you can watch those you know, now
they change the regions, but it used to be when
you can watch when teams went more to their region,
like now the West Region could be in Poughkeepsie. You know,
it's it's it's really it's it's really it's really really crazy.
But you know, again, I think you have a lot

(45:31):
of balance in college basketball, and there really is not. Like,
first of all, I do not believe Gonzaga is the
best team in at number one, Okay, because you haven't
watched Gonzaga enough. I've seen Gonzaga two or three times,
and I think there, you know, I think that you know, again,
if if they played a big, tense schedule, they'd have

(45:52):
seven or right losses. You know, I think that you
realize that they're they're they're a major conference team playing
in a minor conference. So by the end of the year,
so they have three losses and everybody puts them ahead
of a duke that has four or five losses in
North Carolina that has four or five losses. But you know,

(46:13):
you see he he's the difference. When Michigan plays Iowa
and Michigan plays Maryland, they lose that game on on
the other team's home court at least a few times,
you know, at least a few times when you know
who's the team in that conference that's going to beat
Gonzaga in conference play. So that means that Gonzaga picks

(46:36):
up eighteen wins now going into their they're going into
their conference schedule. You know, they're you know, nine and two.
Now now they're they're twenty seven and they you know,
so they have one heat Cup in the season and
a twenty seven and four. I think that if they
were playing you know, a big ten of an a
CEC schedule, they'd have seven or eight losses. Um. To

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be perfectly honest, Um, you can't really shoot it consistently,
and they really miss Ian Williamson. Um. There's there's not
a non floid team in the tournament. There's no team
in this year's tournament that can't lose in the first weekend,
you know, And I think that what you're going to see, though.

(47:22):
It's interesting. I think you see less teams coming from
the smaller conferences all the way to the end, but
I think you're going to see more teams from the
big conference. You know, it doesn't surprise me when a
Syracuse goes from the A c C or you know,

(47:45):
or Michigan's gets hot from the Big Ten and goes
all the way to the final game, and augumented augmentatively,
they were not the best team in the Big Ten
last year. The best team in the Big Ten is
probably Michigan State. But the Florida they're very Florida. Yeah,
the Big Ten up and down, very strong conference this year. Um,

(48:06):
really every game was good. We both obviously watched a
lot of Big Ten basketball, really strong year. But top
to bottom it's good. But at the top it's really
not an elite that this is not a great Michigan
State team. It's not a great Michigan team. It's it's
it's it's certainly not a great Ohio State team. It's
not a great Wisconsin team, not a great Maryland o

(48:29):
Iowa team. But on any night, any of those teams
can play with anybody. Absolutely, absolutely totally. And I think
it's the same thing in the A C C. I
don't know. I had the top I think is a
little stronger in the COT the bottom maybe a little
bit weak, correct exactly, I agree with that, But you know,
you saw Louisville, who you know, has had a pedestrian year.

(48:52):
You know, play right with Duke when Duke was actually
playing playing well. Um, you know, it's a down year
for Kansas. Mhm, it's a down heere for Kansas, Kansas State.
You know a lot of people think that that Iowa State,
if Iowa State is healthy, they can play in a

(49:12):
game and beat everybody. It's one of the teams that
you hear a lot about that that people talk about
has a lot of talent as Iowa State. You know
in in going into the tournament that they have the
talent to play with anybody in the country. I think
that what makes the tournament so fun in general, Doc

(49:36):
is that a team like Iowa xample go, you face
the teams in the a CEC, in the SEC, in
the Big Twelve and whatnot, and you find out who's
who's truly the best. I think that, like in a
down year for Kansas, Kansas could very well go in
the National Championship game. This year, Texas Tech with a fantastic,
fantastic year under Chris Beard winning the Big Twelve get

(49:58):
bounced in the first round by Marie's And I think
that's what makes this entire thing. We have incredibles the
refs will not be biased because they I mean, I
think that's a big issue. And because the refs now
report to the n c A, so so they are
working for one boss being reviewed as opposed to being

(50:21):
independent contractors. Um. You know, they're they're now in the
n c A tournament and you know where every game
is televised, you know. And I think there's a lot
of reasons why this is going on. And what what
I was gonna say is, I don't think you're gonna
see Cinderella as much from the small conferences. And I
think the reason is is that the bigger conferences are

(50:44):
now having more senior players. You know, the the the
one and Done's are really a Duke and Kentucky type thing,
and exceptions across the world, no doubt. So I think
the recruiting there was an imbalance between that where everyone
was looking for stars and and and you had the
Cinderellas having more tournament experience going against the biggest Because

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that's kind of sorted itself out to some degree, we
haven't had like a small conference team. I guess Nevada
went the Furthest last year, but we haven't had a
real small conference team in the final four in a
very very long time. It's Gonzaga count Gonzaga's big times,
Gonzaga is having a conference team. Yeah, but Gonzaga is
now you know that Mark Fus being paid as high

(51:30):
as any coach in the country right now. He stayed. Okay,
Gonzaga has had a lot of repicks to Bonus Loyal
Chicago last year. Definitely definitely counts. Yeah, that that was true. Cinderella.
That's a that's a true, true true through Cinderella. You know,
anybody can be to anybody in this tournament is what

(51:51):
makes it so fun. What do you want? What are
you watching conference tourna for? Where? What are you what
are you watching for this week? You know, I'd like
to see Zion Williamson come back. I mean I think
that you know, he's wonderful because he gets me to
watch him. Okay, So I mean maybe it's the buzz

(52:11):
that everybody created, but I watched more duke games this
year than I had in every year. I watched Murray
State play because everybody was talking, was talking about John
Morand and then I obviously have a rooting interest in
in the in the Big Ten. I think that the
Big Ten tournament. You know, again, anybody can beat anybody
in that tournament. Anybody can be bounced in in in

(52:33):
in the bar. I really wanted a double buy and
did not get it. You know, in that that that
that that thing is is is amazing. I always like
watching um, you know, Syracuse at the end of the year.
Like I've said that, you know, I've never thought that
behind doesn't cheat, and you know when we talk about that,
but I respect him a lot as a basketball coach.

(52:54):
I also, you know, really feel bad for what happened
to him a few weeks ago, and obviously feel bad
the family or the person that he hit. But I mean,
I thought he was put in a terrible situation. When
you know, somebody jumps on the road, it's it's very
hard to do anything. That's something that's very hard to
live with for the rest of your life. Syracuse, he

(53:15):
you know. You know, it's the interesting thing about Syracuse
every year is that everybody says that everyone's gonna have
trouble playing against his own defense. Then you wonder why
other people played what's own defense. And you know the
reason they give is that's concerned about the three pointer.
And you know, Beheim recruits very long players to try
to take that away. But why does it work better

(53:35):
in the tournament than it does in the regular season.
I don't know A great question to ask Frank McCaffrey,
and I won't let him curse in the answer. You
can let him curse. You can certainly let him curse.
So I'll get anything else for us tonight? Well, I
think you gotta finish with the Lakers. Okay, number one,
you get some right, Kyler Murray, you get some wrong.

(53:57):
I never thought the Lakers would not make the playoffs
with Lebron. I always believe that Lebron in any ten
players now, you know. It was interesting yesterday was listening
to Colin Cowherd talk and he said that he felt that, um,
Lebron kind of got picking up in the whole Hollywood scene.
Does that Colin Coward trying to make stuff up? Or

(54:19):
do you believe it? No? I mean I I really,
I really think he got hurt. You know, I think
they were, you know, fourth in the West Christmas Day,
and you know then he misses a large part of
the season. I also think that the Brandon Ingram injury,
you know, it's a lot more worrisome. You know. Again,

(54:40):
the is a medical standpoint. The question is why does
he have a blood clot in his arm? If it's traumatic,
you know, then that's fine because usually blood clots in
your arm, we see them when the next secondary to
ivy catheters, secondary to infection, you know. So that's really
really strange thing to happen without some reason for it. Um.
So that that's something to bear watch. You know. It's

(55:02):
kind of like he's out for the rest of the
season and we haven't heard another word. Um But I
find that whole situation really really, really really interesting. And
you know, the Lakers are in bad shape right now.
The Lakers, No, that's not true. Forget this season. It's over, right,

(55:26):
So what does next season look like? I think David's
gonna get traded, okay, very well, could be them. They
need people who can shoot the ball. We knew that coming.
We knew that in October, and they didn't. They didn't
surround Lebron with shooters. Never made sense any of us,
right and and stuff. But I think Lebron will come
back in a vengeance. But I'm really surprised, you know.

(55:47):
But people will say that it's it's because the West
is so tough, and there were four before we got hurt.
As you mentioned, I think this team, this team was
not built well together. To me, the West is tough,
and then they felt Well, what's interesting is I was
thinking about that. If you had to rank the teams. Okay,
we're all taking Golden State first. Who do you take?

(56:10):
Is your second choice? I'll take the is that through
the West? No, it could be anybody. I'll take the bus. Okay,
you see. See, I think you can make a strong
argument for the Bucks, Boston or Toronto. So how can

(56:31):
the easily? You know, I and and now And then
I say to myself, well, maybe it's because you know,
I got up at six o'clock in the morning to
go to go to work. So I don't see too
much of the joker in Denver basketball. I seem way
more of the East Coast players than I see. Then
maybe I'm underrating Denver. Maybe you know, but we don't.

(56:55):
Houston is the hottest team in the NBA. Well, you
know why. I watched Portland play, you know, when they
came east and beat everybody, and I thought they looked great.
You know, they lost the game against Toronto. I thought
Portland looked really really really good. I mean, again, no
one always looks good. No one wants to believe in them.
After they lost to New Orleans last year, you know,

(57:17):
but you know New Orleans had it was a tough
playoff team with Davis Drew Holiday in Rondo that just
hit this stride right at the right moment. Or maybe
Portland can't play in the playoffs. I mean, I guess
we'll see. I thought Potland looked really, really really good
when they came East. But I I honestly agree with
you that I think that Toronto or the Box or

(57:40):
Boston the second best team in the NBA. So the
East is not as weak as it used to be.
It's not weak at all. And even against the Western Conference,
these teams played very well. It's not like they just
struggle against the West only beat up on each other.
That's like I think that it's like everything else. It's
been true for a number of years, and people who
are not objective think it's still true. But I think

(58:00):
it's changing fast, and especially if Durant leaves the Warriors,
then I think you actually have balanced between the two. Now,
what I will say is the bottom of the bottom much.
It's much in the West. The bottom. You know, Sacramento
is way better than than the Nets, and the Nets
are the playoffs and Sacramento is not right. Yeah, I

(58:23):
don't think as any question about that. At the bottom
half of the of the Western Conference, Um, the playoffs
playoff racket and then like ten to thirteen is way
better than six and down from the East. And you know,
the most incredible team this year I think is the
Los Angeles Clippers. Yeah. I mean it's very impressive what
they've done, very very impressive what they've done where they

(58:45):
kind of sold off, they set themselves up in the future.
They've cleaned up their cap and they're still in the
playoffs as of now. And I think it's very very impressive.
And it also says that the Knicks should have kept
Local and Ari many years ago. And this all goes
back to James Dolan. It goes back to Jay was Dollar.
If they would have kept Gallinar, he didn't have Anthony,
you know. So, so what seems good today isn't necessarily

(59:07):
good for the future. You got it? There you go?
That is Dr Mitchell Rosin. I am Gregg Sauceman. This
has been another fantastically quick and fun edition of Doc Jock.
We move it all down next Monday. When we return,
it's tourney time. The attorney will be here, will break
down the bracket, will give you our picks and our favorites,
and will they know where to lay a little cash
and we'll be able to watch the playing games. That's

(59:30):
right next Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday right for Dr Mitchell Rose,
Mitchell Rosalin, I'm Greg Susman. Actually listen to what all
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