March Madness Breakdown, OBJ Trade, LeBron

Dr. Mitchell Roslin and Gregg Sussman give you an in-depth March Madness breakdown, taking a look at the Cinderellas, along with the over-seeded and overrated teams! They also look at Dave Gettleman's "Process", as well as LeBron ignoring teammates in LA.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You guys, and I'll play you in okay you we're
listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. What is of everybody?

(00:33):
The madness has begun? And then break it all down?
It's Dr Mitchell Rosalin's Greg Susman. This is Doc Chocolate's
going on. Doc, certainly you know a lot's going on,
but certainly what the stock on the Giants is down?
We hear much madness. Um looks like it would be
a fantastic and I guess we have Walt Frasier calling

(00:55):
out Lebron James. A lot to get to where everything
Doc just mentioned over the next hour or so, and
we will will begin with the biggest story in sports,
and that is the beginning of the n C Double
A Tournament March Madness. Duke is the biggest favorite to
win the tournament in like five years, uh Zion Williams
and r J. Barrett Camera and it's potentially the top

(01:16):
three players overall in the draft that remains to be seen.
Well Zion Williamson obviously because a totally different team the
heavy favorite to win this whole thing. Doc, did they
get it done? Well? It's it's strange I took them
in the bracket I filled out. But I also think
of all of the favorites that at this higher favorite,

(01:38):
I think the problem is is that no one can
agree on anybody else, not that they're so unbeatable, because historically,
if you look at the n c A tournament, it's
a gouge tournament, and Duke can go into its games
and not shoot it really, really really and can lose.
When they don't, you know, usually the three becomes big

(01:58):
and gods make their money in the n A. When
you look at Cinderellas, it's usually the gods that step
up and play. And I think that's what everybody's problem is.
So a team like and I know this is gonna
really sound weird, because they went out in the first
round last year, Virginia, everybody would kind of like, they

(02:19):
shoot it well, they played good defense, but then they
you know, they basically crapped out in the A c
C tournament. So everybody says, Okay, they're gonna do it again. Okay, Gonzaga,
who I made the point last week that if Gonzaga
played in the Big ten of the A c C,
they would have between five and eight losses. And you
looked at me with you know, blank, stare at eyes

(02:41):
and you said, no, they're really really good and they
got you know, lost to St. Mary's by twelve, and
I think you'd agree. Now they probably have at least
five losses if they played in a power conference potentially
so and going doesn't mean they're not a solid team.
So I think Duke is benefiting from the fact of okay,
because Docus Floyd and and you you know it really

(03:05):
can shooted poorly on its night. Trey Jones is really
not a great shooter. I've seen Duke play more because
you know, watching Zion as much CE TV, and they're
a very beatable team compared to some of the great
teams that we've seen in the past. The problem is
is who's that B team right now? Let me get

(03:25):
to Virginia for a moment. You brought them up as
a team people would like. The problem with Virginia is
the same problem they have really every year. You're absolutely right,
it's in regard to guard play. But the problem with
Virginia is when they get down, they traditionally have not
had the ability to come back. They don't shoot it
lights out, they don't do bombs away from three when
they get down. They play great defense, and that's fine.

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When things don't go their way, when teams hit shots
against them, they don't have ability to come back. And
I thought we saw that last year. Has it changed
this year? Well, I think that Jerome's a really good player.
I think DeAndre Hunter. I mean, I think that they're
really sitting with two legitimate when Brogden actually has been
a much better pro than anybody thought he was gonna be.

(04:08):
They think they're sitting there with two legitimate pros. And
Tyler Guy is an awesome college Okay, um again, and
they've played really top competition again. Everybody thinks because they
crapped out in the A c C Tournament that it's
gonna be deja vu all over again. I think they
got If they get past this weekend, I think that

(04:30):
they may go on a role, you know, getting over
the hump of this week again. Um. I think they're
well coached. I think they're small kids. I think they're tough.
I mean, it's it's it's it's mind boggling. I mean,
they had played right with the Dukes and right with
the North Carolinas oh year, and you know again, you know,

(04:50):
Duke just doesn't shoot it well. So I think what
I'm what I'm really saying is that there's note second team. Ever.
You know, Michigan State for some has some of the
same problems that that that Virginia has that you know
everybody loves is. So they went out of the tournament
really early in the last few years, you know, after
winning the Big ten you know tournament last year they
actually lost to Michigan, but this year they won. Cassius

(05:12):
Winston's a really good player. They're a tough team, but
again they've exited the tournament after being always going late
early in the last year. So I'm not sure who
that B team is that everybody can find. And I
think that's where Duke really benefited from. And I told
you last week that the team that has the talent

(05:34):
to play with anybody on their night Sociowah State. It
was really upset that they won the Big Twelve tournament
because they would have been my real sleep with school.
And remember I said that at the end of the
the end of this yew and then they went out
and won the Big twelve. And the Big twelve is good.
You know, everybody's talked about the Big Ten in Big
twelve in a CC. But but honestly, all the major

(05:54):
conferences are pretty fairly bounced. Of course. Yeah, Auburn in
the SEC. Yeah, I mean, like I I the question
is is who can everybody gather around that can really
go on a run to win this tournament? Well, I
think you. I think you bring up the SEC and

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Tennessee is a team that traditionally you're like, all right,
this team is they have bounced there. I don't believe
in Rick Bond's fair fair point, But like Admiral Schofield
is one of those guys they put a teal on
his back and lead them a long way, I think,
except that Rick Bonds has had incredibly talented tea from Clemson,
t J, t J Forward, Texas to Texas and and

(06:36):
and really never gets it done in any in any
and I couldn't get it done in the SEC tournament. Now.
I guess you could say the same thing about Tony Bennett.
But Tony Bennett has been an incredible coach at Washington State,
which can't get out of its own way, one of
the hottest division ones the recruited in the country, and
really is turned Virginia into a top top notch program,

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year in and year out, has not gotten over that
n C A a a hurdle, but has cleared every other hurdle.
You know, Rick Bonds, I look at kind of has
always been at these places where you could really recruit,
had the best talent in the country, as opposed to
Tony Bennett, who's overcoached his talent. You know, I think

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the knock on Tony Bennett is that Virginia played above
that talent and when the tournament came, they lost. But
like I said, now they're sitting there with two borderline
first round draft picks, and listen that they've had that before,
Justin Anderson and Malcolm Rockden. So it's not like they
haven't had that before. I always go back to that
team against Syracuse when the Elite eight, where a team they'veat.
They eat Syracuse three times that year previously, and it

(07:48):
was the perfect match for them. They're like eleven and
a halftime. It was the perfect Virginia game and they
fell apart in that second half. That was the team
that should have been to the final four. So again,
let's take Duke out of it. Who should be that's
the problem U n C. I hate to say that,
but you, from what I've seen, UNC is the second
best team in the country. I mean, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna argue with you, you know. Um, And

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when when you look at and this is why I
you gotta give teams like Michigan a fighting chance, because
he's an incredible coach. You know, I can tell you
my friend Frand he took every single thing away from
Iowa that Iowa. Now, it didn't help that Iowa got
the ball like crap, you know which, which really played

(08:34):
into it, banged it in and had they made some
shots that they normally make, that would have been a
much closer game. Um. But again, he played them exactly
the way I would have played them. And I've watched
twenty of their games, of course, and most teams I
don't see that he you know, he told his kids, listen,

(08:55):
we're gonna take away the three, we're gonna take away
the foul shot, okay, and we'll win this game. And
that's exactly what happened. Well, Iowa Maryland of our teams
both inside the tournament this year. Now, Maryland's facing off
against the winner of Belmont versus Temple. That game takes
place on Tuesday evening. And the thing is, one of
those teams that play in the playing game, they went

(09:16):
every year, they win and they advance, and seemingly everybody,
even the moment this was announced, is picking Belmont, and
they're picking Belmont. You then continue on to defeat Mer.
You know what they're underestimating, friend Dumphy, especially in his
last year. Okay, brand Dumphy is a terrific coach, and
Belmont's not going to catch them by surprise. And you know,

(09:38):
here's the thing about dump Okay, in a nutshell, geames
like Belmont classically have two the three really good players
and a bunch of interchangeable parts. Dumphy has been playing
against that for a hundred years back at Penn in
the IVY League. You know they'll take that away. I

(10:00):
don't think Belmont's beating Temple, but I think Temple beats them.
I think Carolyn beats Temple. I actually think that the
n c A really does not want to see L
s U in the Sweet sixteen. Well. I love Maryland's
draw listen. I like it also to be to be
perfectly honest with you, we constantly kill a committee for
where Maryland is I always feel like they're understated. I
don't think they're understated this year. I think Belmont as

(10:22):
good as they are in the Ohio Valley Conference, and
they could have. They were the number one team all
season long. They wound up falling to Murray's State and
John Morett. But you know, Belmont facing a tough, defensive
Temple team. I think Maryland is a perfect spot for them.
And Maryland's made for the tournament. And not to be biased,
but they're made for the tournament and they can get
the Sweet six team. It's in their backyard. And Washington

(10:43):
d C Facing potentially in Michigan State team that they
know very well. Then you face Duke and you just
hope that you know, things go your way basically, So
you know, here's the thing compared to you know, I
hate founding when people talk about the path okay, because
when you look at athletes, the bigger, faster, they have

(11:05):
better at every point in time. So he used to
you know, you know when when your father used to say,
well you have so Mickey Mantle, Well, Mickey Mantle might
have been the exception, but the baseball players in the
seventies were better than the baseball players in the fifties. Okay,
the football players today are bigger and fast than the
football players today. But college basketball, I would say, is

(11:26):
the exception because of the one and Dunn's proliferating, so
that you don't really see the matured player, you know,
And that goes into talking about we're not seeing Zion
Williamson played to three years. We're seeing him play one year,
which is why would people say that he can't shoot?
You know, they have really no real comparison because you
haven't seen nineteen year olds play at this level. You know,

(11:49):
the generational talent like him, like Lebron James. But what
I will tell you is even you talked about Duke,
every single one of these college teams is Floyd compared
to the great college teams in the past. And that's
just because the NBA is taking your best talent, which
kind of makes it better in in a strange way.
So this very little difference. Maybe you have a top class, okay,

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and I'll give you the top class being Duke. And
we said Duke is Floyd. I mean they're not a
perfect team. Trade Jones shoots you know from three points, Okay,
Cam Reddish is probably their best three point Barrett goes
to his left every single time. Okay, you know the
guys who come off the bench are great players, they're serviceable,

(12:32):
but they're not going to take over a game by
any stretch of the North Carolina is Floyd. We talked about, Virginia,
Michigan States, Floyd and Gonzaga and Tennessee. Probably Kentucky you
put on the next level that wouldn't be surprised. Maybe
you put Michigan in there. And then you look at
the teams between what you know, the fourth and tenth seeds,

(12:53):
like how much of a difference is there between Kansas State, Maryland,
Iowa and those teams. Well, all of those games like
point flips, you know, which is what we kind of
saw in in in in the tournament, So that the
whole cluster of those those type teams. The best god
in the tournament is probably the kid from Murray Stage.
But you know, you just don't think he has enough

(13:14):
firepower to to to go. I think has enough fire
pwer to beat Marquette probably well, Kett is one of
those teams that's up down in it. I mean it's
it's like you don't even know what's going to happen.
What did you think of this? I'm trying to figure
out Day one is Louisville Minnesota matchup. We've we've seen
a lot of Minnesota, obviously. You know, again, I think

(13:35):
that UM Minnesota. I think Louisville is gonna figure out
a way. Okay, but but it's a really close thing.
There are times when I thought that Minnesota with coffee
and Jordan Murphy and the big kid is really talented.
Um quarrel over here. Um, he's really really really talented.

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But for some reason, that team goes into a funk
for twenty minutes a game. And you know, I didn't
see the second game. They really shouldn't to beat Penn State.
State handed them that game going down the stretch, and
then if Penn State beats him, they're not probably in
the tournament. The toal is incredibly talented. You know, he's
going to play for somebody in the end, especially if

(14:23):
he learns how to play. Okay, incredibly strong, incredibly talented.
You know, I haven't watched Louisville as much as Minnesota,
but I never know what when Minnesota's gonna show. Just
Minnesota does not scare me, and seeing them in the
n A tournament, right like Minnesota has a tour that
all the players. But you know, Louisville is a tremendously
fluid team. You know, I saw do come back from
you know, ten points in five minutes against them and

(14:45):
impressed them out of the building. And their god play
leaves a lot to be desired. Both of those teams
don't have really strong god play. I mean, they're almost
mirror images of it in a way. Sure, So, I mean,
I really don't have a feel for that game. I'll
tell you another game. I don't have a real feel
for his villain over St. Mary's. A lot of people
love the girls in this one, love the gals. I

(15:05):
don't know about that. Well. Jay Wrights history is he
either leaves earlier goes what stays in the hall dance.
You're really well coached. They tournament tough. You know, they
that this is not a blue chip Villanova team by
any stretch of the imagination. You know, Booth and Pascal
the best players, both of them have trouble finishing at

(15:27):
the rim. You know, this is not the same quality
of team that they've had in the past. But you know, again,
I don't know who we talked you. You started this
out wonderfully by talking about how Duke's the favorite, and
they are because there's no one else that you can
really show all in love with. Talking about the tournament.

(15:47):
We spoke about this months ago, and that was my
frustration for the fact that Syracuse is always very successful
in this tournament because people just are not prepared for
the not a zone defense, as everybody knows his zone
is coming, but the way that Syracuse plays it. And
here Syracuse sits in an eight nine matchup and then
they face Gonzaga and you're just like, this is the
perfect matchup for for Syracuse again, is the perfect spot

(16:10):
for them, and then they have the potential to face
Florida State or Marquette and Florida States obviously seen it
this year. But next thing, you know, Cyracuse in the
elite eight. So why don't colleges play zone? Well, they
do play zone, but now the way they hid does
why don't most colleges play you tell me because originally,
when you play zone, what do you want to do?

(16:32):
Ack it in and make them shoot from the outside.
And now people now if we will love shooting on
the outside, So what's really weird is if you're going
to play zone like Syracuse, who have to recruit in
a certain direct, which Syracuse obviously does, which means that
you have to have the big kid in the middle. Okay,
because it's very very The second problem with his own
it's very hard to rebound it. M you need to

(16:54):
have the big kid in the middle. The second thing
is you have to recruit incredible length. Take away the
three and you see. I think that's what happens to teams.
Teams he used to play against two three zones because
everybody throws it. You know, you have teams like for example,
I Defense right. You know, Virginia will show you zone
once in a while. Katchewsky goes to three. Affair amounts

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nothing he played. He played virtually all too three at
the end of last year. Now this year is playing
mostly man. But if he gets into the right situation,
he'll go to three. The difference is Syracuse's length is
so great, and when they turn it up and notch
and what happens is they're very patient and and and

(17:37):
and and they don't get off to these great s thoughts,
and you know they're down a little bit and and
basically it just wears on these teams for forty minutes. Yeah,
I completely agree with you, and it just frustrates the
hell out of these teams. As a fan, it's incredibly
frustrating to watch. I can the first shound upset Doc Well,

(17:57):
I mean, I think Iowa stay make into the final four,
but first first round obviously, I always state it goes
in the final four's they beat Ohio State, they beat
Houston to potentially beat Kentucky. Yeah, I think i Alwa
State can get awful. They have the talent to get
off on that role. Let me think of some of
the you know, the first round games that you know,
I think you know, it's not an upset. I think

(18:18):
Nevada is better than people think. So I agree with you.
I agree think this isn't one. This isn't one of
Musselman's best teams either. For the record, I agree with you.
You know, I think that you know it's an eight
nine game. I think Utah State will win that game. Oh,
I love Utahs. These are my favorite picks from Utah State.
I think that you know, Wolford's not going to surprise
everybody wants to take Wolford. I think their favorite and

(18:39):
overset over Seaton Hall. Okay, I think Seton Hall is
gonna win that game. Okay, I I think that Seton
Hall is gonna win that game. I think that Belmont
is going to lose to Temple said Okay, Um, throw
a few more. You have it in front of you,
do it on the list, right, Um, Murray State, Marquette,
you take a job, Moran or now. I think Marquette
finds the way, do I? Uh, Buffalo and the winner

(19:02):
of St. John's Arizona State Buffalo winside games much tougher
than either of those. Okay, let me get to Mission
in Montana, obviously rematching I want to go there. Uh
what about another good one for you? How where do
you think Purdue goes? Depends on which produce steam shows
up and which Carson Edward shows up. You know I
have proved you. I think Purdue got a very favorable dry.

(19:24):
I completely agree with you. I don't really like produced team,
but I think they got a very favorable drum. Completely
agree with you. I probably have the winner that Produce
Tennessee game go to the final four. That's just me.
Are you buying ore again like everybody else's? No? I
mean because you know again, you just take away pritch Up,
the whole team is gone. He's not that quick, he's

(19:44):
not that hard to take. Give me okay, you know again,
I know Iowa inside out. Yes, you do Okay again,
Pritchip was pritch up at the beginning of the year,
Seenor's playing for wherever. I was able to take him away,
and I was not quick. Oh, anybody who watches tape

(20:04):
just takes him away, and then they can't give me
your final four. Um, I think I had um. If
I have to look at Rick, I have Duke. I
think I have Michigan beating Gonzaga. I have Virginia and
Iowa State. You're going Ilwa stayed all the way then,
and I have Iowa State beating Virginia, Duke beating Michigan.

(20:25):
I was staying in the finals and Duke beating Iowa State.
How about that. I'm going with the n C double
age dream. I hate to say it. Duke U n
C in the finals. The other two teams. I got Michigan.
I agree with you. In the bottom region here and
then up there between Tennessee and Perdue. Perdue, there's a

(20:46):
big tense of love. You have the big tens of
big tens of love. All right, Um, let's move away
from March madness now and let's get a little bit
local here. Let's love at Dave Getti from the New
York Giants. So, so, last Tuesday night, I'm at a
cooking class with my fiancee. We're learning how to make noki. Ah,

(21:07):
and it wasn't like the noki that were used to,
like racoda noki or potato noki. It was like all
different style. They're just sitting there, you're not allowed to
have your phone out, you're cooking, you're trying to pay attention. Right.
So we're done, we're done. We're just finishing off our wine.
We're finishing, we're done, we're wrapping up. So I take
up my phone and it takes exploding, exploding the messages.
I thought it was a joke, so I go, I

(21:29):
it was serious. Oh my god, Oh my god, oh
my god. And you can see everybody else at this
table is a twenty person class. Everybody else at this table,
Oh my god, Oh that was a tradeing. Oh my god,
Oh that was a trade. Oh my god, Oh that
was just traded. And at this point, Doc, I'm just
I'm in a fog. I am in a daze. Right.
So Judy goes to get on the end of the

(21:50):
art to get home the end of the r training
for those obviously they aren't uncle, the end of the
art training get home. I'm like, what are you doing?
It's the wrong subway. She's like, okay, sorry, and like
did you walking up? Just where are you going? Oh?
I'm walking? Harold Squares goes, but this train goes right home.
Why wouldn't you just get on it? I was so
out of it and so in my own world on
my phone, I was lost. And we got home. I
was like, I needed to go in like the other

(22:11):
room for for like a good hour, to like be
all over Twitter, digesting everything, understanding what the giants received,
understanding what they gave up, and then I'll come back out.
And I came back out like ten o'clock. I was like,
all right, I can talk now. I remember I texted
you and I responded You responded like something like the
biggest idiots ever, right, So that's where my head was at.

(22:32):
I was like, and I, oh, yeah, I probably love that,
are you well? You know what? And I spoke to
you the next morning. You called me on a Wednesday
morning and we spoke, and that was when I was
at least like understanding that. I remember we talked. We
talked on Wednesday morning. Talk what's going on? Man? Well,
I think so, you know, you can have the good explanation,

(22:53):
real explanation. Real explanation is the giants are basically like
somebody was by pole of this word. Okay, you know
that's the medical definition. And there's no coherence in their
moves whatsoever. So take a step back. You know, they're

(23:13):
on this journey to find their past, okay. And they
basically said, you know, when we won, we didn't have
the Diva superstar and they got rid of the Diva superstar.
And you know what if that was their game plan
fourteen months ago and said, you know what, we need
twenty five good football players, not one rate football player

(23:37):
that we deem is is a distraction, because you know,
I do think that you know, Body and Lodge, the
media has made a big sensation. He shows up, he
works hard, I mean he it's it's that he's a
brand name and something like that. That's fine, but don't
go out and sign him. Don't have twenty one million
dollars or sixteen million dollars of dead cap money. It

(23:59):
seems it's a frenic, okay, And it's the same thing
doubling down today by telling us that Eli Manning is
better than we think. Okay, there's nothing unknown about Eli
man Okay. We can all say that Eli can make
certain throws. On the right team, he can win football games.

(24:20):
But one thing, and I said this to you last
week or a few weeks ago, that's been absolutely proven.
Eli Manning is not good enough to lift up a
football team because he started the last thirty two games
for the New York Giants, and their record is was
was five and eleven this year and three and thirteen
the year before. So by definition, he's not good enough

(24:41):
to elevate the team. So if you want to, then
tell me that the NFL should go the direction of
the m B A. And what I mean is, you know,
coming into this draft, Zion is worth a ton more
than R. J. Barrett way more, okay, and that the

(25:02):
worst thing that you can do in the NFL is
draft Ryan Tannehill or a Blaine Gabbetts. That and then
you have two players coming in the next two years
and maybe justin, hey bear, but let's throw him out
of it. When when I see twa, I think of
everyone's gonna say Steve Young, say Steve. I wouldn't say Steven,

(25:24):
and everyone then would say ken Stable because he's a lefty.
And I wouldn't say Jim's one either, who's you know,
a lefty? And now in Congress? But I think that
he reminds me of Montana resorts. In Congress, Jim's one
was ran for something because she was a Lodging. I
get him confused. Jims was helping Um, Jim Zorn was
helping Kyler Murray ready for his product. Yeah, Jim's won, Okay, Yeah, No,

(25:46):
Steve Lodging I think is a Republican in Congress. I
think um. But the way to a Leege receivers is Montana.
You know, the feel for the game, the accuracy hitting
people on the run is Montana re invented. I see Haskins,
I see Byron Leftwick that okay, I see Revor Lawrence,

(26:09):
I see Hayton Manning. Okay, So if you want to
tell me, I want to stink, because if I can't
get that, then I'll pay ten million dollars a year
I don't have a huge problem with it. But when
the Giants say they have a plan, well, I'm waiting
because their plan seems to be about an hour into it.

(26:32):
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if they go out
and do something stupid and sign like you know, Houston
from Kansas City Chiefs. You know, again, the Giants should
have a team. I have zero problem having the youngest
team in the NFL and hoping to position yourself, get
good on defense, you know, build your line, build behind

(26:54):
Balkley and hope you get really lucky and you get
tour you know, in in one in one year, and
stink until you can get a difference maker at the
quarterback position, not just fill it. Well, so I think
it's a um. I think it's a good makes sense.
And we talked too this last Wednesday, and I it

(27:14):
makes sense to you leave Ali in there, let me
the Swan song, Let me get a Swan song. Fairwell
doesn't make a difference. Draft all his defensive players in
the draft this year. Now again, if you really think
Haskins is a difference makeup which you know again I
don't see. And you know what's different. Now, let's be

(27:36):
serious when we when when Matthew Stafford was the number
one pick in the draft, we swarmed throw six passes
at Georgia. It was you know, it was it was
like hard to project these people, you know, Richard Todd, Okay,
it was hard to project these people because the college
game was so different. Yeah, it was not hard to
project Andrew Luck, not at all. Okay, it's not hard

(27:58):
to project Trevor Lauren. Nope, Okay, we've all seen Haskins
play for Ohio State. Who have who has raved about him?
Who called you up when they played against Penn State
and said, Greg, that's the quarterback I want my friend
that went to Penn State and got destroyed. That's that's
your call me out that he wanted Haskins. Yes, he

(28:18):
thought Haskins was great. Yes, okay, my friend that went
depenns State? So does team get annihilated by his Wayne
Haskins called me, that's who that's who? I thought? They
didn't they win that in the last play of the game, Like,
wasn't that like a one point game? When they game
no Ohio wanted on the last Maryland no overtime, I
saw it was Haskins stuff like that, So I. I mean,

(28:41):
I I haven't been you know. You know, Kyler Murray
excites me, you know, but I was never blown away
by what I was. And so you said, I mean,
what's your thoughts? It's a fair I don't know, you
see that that's I'm not like sold like I am

(29:03):
on to or am like? That's my question sold and
it should be sold on Jake from who had a
bad year last year. I wasn't good well. People always
question his arm strength and whether he's the perfect game
manager or se. But you know, mean like to five
star quarterbacks. Justin Field is now going to start for

(29:24):
Ohio State, and Tony Easton's son is gonna start for
UM or for Washington. You know, it's to five star
star people recruited it out of you know. So what
I'm trying to say is that the the common theme
in New York is that the Giants need to draft
a quarterback with the six pack. I don't disagree with that,

(29:45):
but only if he was there, Only if it's a
difference making quarterback. You know, don't go ahead, be bad
longer until you can get the guy that puts you
in the playoffs every year. You know, you really don't
want Mariota, you know, per se, you really don't want
what's going on with Jamis Winston. To be perfectly honest,

(30:08):
you certainly don't want what's happened with Tannehill. You know.
You you want who would difference makers at in the
NFL at quarterback. That's the thing. If you think that
Dwayne Haskins is a difference maker, if he's the answer
for the next what does answer means? See, I'm redefining answer.
Answer means to me that you're relevant every year because
you have that guy at quarterback, and that there aren't

(30:30):
that many people that have stood up to that test. Okay,
obviously Brady obviously, Okay, obviously Brady, obviously, Roethlisberger there every year. Obviously,
Rogers too. Obviously Rogers, and I'd say Breeze has lived
up to that, no question that that too. You always
believe New Orleans has a fighting chance now right underneath
the class. I'd could give you Matt Ryan, maybe Philip Rivers,

(30:53):
I give you Cam Newton. I'll take it. Yeah, I'll
take it when he's healthy. They're always, you know, at
least year at the end of the year when he's
not healthy. But who else really makes a difference that
you know, you're no worse than five hundred because they
are your guy. Know one second, teams, hang on, you're
no worse than five da he's a guy. What if

(31:16):
Carson Wentz fits that. I know he's been hurted. Certainly
doesn't have the background yet to say that, said Roethlisberger.
All right, said Roethlisberger. Right, I can't say Deshaun Watson
yet obviously turned his career. You can say so two
for two. Can't say Baker yet, No, and that that
could be a circus. I'll give you Patrick Mahomes. That's okay,
that's gonna count, man, he said, Rivers Stafford, No, no, no, no.

(31:45):
Russell Wilson. Ye, this was a perfect example. They got
rid of everybody had them in the playoffs. You could
find a better example. That's a great example. That's it. Okay,
So let's let's get some of the first round is
that have been taken and they haven't you know, lived
up to that standard. Okay, you know, go go go
back in the first round. I'm there. So you have

(32:06):
Josh Allen for the Bills, who we'll see too early. Yeah, yeah,
Lamar Jackson will say, probably not, probably not now, Baker,
we'll see, we'll see the Shawn Watson looks good. Look
you're promising Mariota and Blake and the Yet they say
in Russian indeed, um famous Peyton Lynch, Peyton Lynch, No, No, Paxton,

(32:29):
excuse me, Paxon Lynch, No, brock Osweilder. No, he's a
second rounder though, Derek Carr No. Look, they were there
picking third in the draft. So there's your answer. Jack
Prescott so far. Yes, but we'd say he's been on
a good team. Agreed, But don't forget they also took
him in the fourth round. I understand, I under never
name of the quarterbacks. I'm with you, Um Corson Wentz,

(32:51):
I gave you Washington doesn't have a quarterback, Mitchell Truebisky
too early, probably too early, and and and you know
he's on a good team. Her cousins. The answers, probably no,
probably not now, Stafford No, he said, Jameis Winston, No,
look at Tampa's record. Jared Goff. It's so hard. That's

(33:14):
a really hard question. So hard. You know, it's the
same thing with Cosson Wentz. I mean it's hard to
say yes to Cosson Wentz when they've won their big
games when he's not there, to say that he's the
difference makeup. So, you know, this is the one argument
that I had about Montana's career was that they didn't
miss a beat when they put Steve Young in. You know,
when we used to argue in my time, who was

(33:36):
the best football player, Lawrence Taylor, Joe Montana, which is
like comparing, okay, but my argument always used to be
that everyone agreed about Taylor. You know, it's hard to
believe if Montana was so good that you could just
replace him with Steve Young and not bad in Island.

(33:58):
Now a lot of people disagree, you know, but but well,
like it's interesting because now we all point to Brady
as being the greatest of all time Mac Hastle one
eleven games the Patriots and and and you know again,
but not the Super Bowls. But the test of time
with Brady has just been unbel ridiculous, ridiculous. We'll see

(34:21):
ultimately what the Giants do. But you know, so getting
rid of Beckham wasn't as offensive to me as all
of the ridiculousness of signing him, you know, and and
just where they wanted to be had they said, you
know what, having a diva wide receiver doesn't is not

(34:42):
New York Giant football, and moved in that direction. Maybe
maybe we wouldn't have been happy. But when they sign him,
have dead money associated with it and then do it,
it's just a plan. It's just absolutely craziness, absolutely no plan,
no plan whatsoever. You know, and and and and now
you have, like the the other team that would seem
strange as the steel is. You know, and both the

(35:03):
Giants and the Steelers are trying to make the same argument.
We're going back to our roots. You know, We've gotten
rid of Brown and you know Bell and and now
we're gonna play solid Pittsburgh steel of football. The Giants
are gonna say, we got rid of the diva, We're
building the offensive line, we're gonna run the game ball
control with Eli And you know what, the problem is

(35:25):
very very simple. When you watch the New York Giants,
when they're efficient on first and second down, they look fine.
When there's the slightest detour in the road, they can't
get out of their own way. And that is not
going to change next year. Let me get to what
Walt Clyde Fraser said yesterday Lebron James Lakers headed not

(35:50):
to make the playoffs this year, which we expect. And
during the huddle yesterday Clyde uh crush Lebron because well
Lebron was talking celebrities instead of being in the huddel
Where is that? You know, I think it's a representation
of how things Ernie Banks and Well Frasier's generation, they

(36:12):
did everything too. Lebron James at this point in time
as a social activist, he does what's on his mind.
He's not going to conform is the whole world, and
I don't really have I mean, we all know that
this season is over. Yeah, you know, I give him
credit for playing compared to you know a lot of

(36:34):
people aren't aren't playing. And you know, I think that
this season has been a tremendous disappointment. I think that
he's going to reload. I think he's going to enjoy
his vacation and I think he's going to come back
you know, really really really really strong. And you know,
I just never questioned his effort and I never questioned
his intent. I think he's done. At Leron, James didn't

(36:58):
go to l a very bad. See all decision. I
know that you know that he went for his brand,
he went for his future. He also went for his kid,
and he also went for his kid. Maybe I know what.
I understand what you're saying. But he wanted his kid
to play on on you know, Compton Magic from the top,
you know in in the Midwest teams. I think that

(37:25):
killing Lebron, who has made the finals every year. His
instagram began, you can't kill him for this. You can't
kill him for what he's doing because they suck, They suck.
What do you want me to do? What do you
want him to do? He brought in the wrong guys.

(37:45):
We've said that all along and they didn't think him
close to doing that. He blew up the chemistry. You
want to criticize him for that, that's fine. Right now,
what do you want him to do? He's getting a
triple double and scoring forty points game. What do you
want him to do? You know, basically, this is what happens.

(38:09):
You know, there's an old saying that the threat of
war is always worse once once you use the threat.
What happened to this team was had this whole We're
going to make a stand to get Anthony Davis to
get him here, and when the bluff was called, the
whole deck of college just collect and you have a

(38:34):
bunch of young players with probably some degree of fragile egos,
that have always been told that they're the greatest thing
in the whole world getting told that they're not wanted
for the first is what you said, and that is
much more of a rude awakening for them than being

(38:54):
traded or out of Los Angeles or anything like that.
But what's really interesting is it seems like people are
trying to maximize Alonzo Ball's value, as he's been been
the first one out of this saying that they're missing
his defensive pressure on the ball. Amazing, it's his value
seems to have gone up by not playing. The only

(39:14):
one that's catching that or you I've totally missed the tangy,
but you're right, you know, it's like all of a sudden,
Alonzo Ball, like everything his father couldn't do, he seems
to be getting by not playing. It's amazing, it's amazing,
it's it's it's really really really funny when you look
at that thing. But you know, it's gonna be interesting

(39:36):
for the NBA to have no Lebron in the playoffs,
the ratings will be interesting. Absolutely, they can Golden State
carry this by themselves. I don't know. Well, you know,
they have a lot of marketable players. I mean, I
think the East will be interesting. Um, I think the
Greek freak, you know, people love what definitely, But we

(39:57):
gotta see if he's a ratings draw. Yeah, I don't
know that we're there. Boston's obviously Boston. Philly should be Philly,
you know, um, you know, and you know the Houston
Golden State games could be must see TV A So,
I mean, I think the NBA has done a better
job marketing its talent than any league. So I think

(40:19):
they're gonna be okay, But it's it's gonna be different,
way different. Do you think Lebron will be an analyst
somewhere during the playoffs. That's an interesting I really don't
know what makes you bring that up. Nothing, It's just
it's the first time he's not gonna be there. He's
gonna be in the playoffs in what a decade and

(40:39):
a half. So will he just take the months off
and disappear or be an analyst? I don't know. He
wants to break maybe, but can't you just see like
certainly for the finals, can't you see him and Dwayne
wage Is doing stuff together? Yes, yes, you know, absolutely yes,

(41:01):
And you know the the question is you talk about
the rate. I mean, if they got a Golden State
bustin you know, championship, I think those ratings would be
higher than ever. Really yeah, I think that would be.
I don't think it's higher than Lebrono the Calves, I
think so. I think Boston is a pretty big draw.
I think Kyrie and Uncle Drew is a pretty big draw.

(41:24):
I really do. I don't think anybody else draws that Philly, Okay.
I think Kyrie is is don't know, he's really marketed
himself pretty well. I think he thinks and the whole
Celtic mystique. I think I think that that's your biggest series,
especially if Boston comes out of the East. You know,

(41:47):
coming out of the East is probably gonna be a
bunch of seven games. Serious. I mean, all these teams
are interchangeable, so you have to allow for the build up,
you know, even in the n c A a a tournament,
you know, part of it is how you be com
Yola Chicago. It's not just it's that last second win
where sure everybody goes to you and and the ball

(42:07):
hits the side of the backboard and bounces in, and
then you have the hundred and five year old n
Nun's screaming yes, you know, you know. So it's so
something builds the momentum to that. So, you know, a
lot of it. It depends on the build up in
the series. Say that that Boston goes through. Now, obviously
Toronto Golden State. You know, if you've got like a exactly,

(42:28):
but if you got an epic Boston Philadelphia series that
Boston comes out of, that's a big build up, big
waiting for them, big win for the NBA, big win
for the NBA. Speaking of the NBA, I want to
move on to a sport that starts Wednesday, Baseball back
doc in Japan. In Japan, bas Balls back each year

(42:49):
will be there, each ure is there the exhibition game?
Uh last night this morning. I guess it's weird that
they're gonna open the season a week and then back.
They've done it before, up before and now they're starting.
Everybody much pretty cold outside. It's freezing outside on certain days,
freezing today is cold. It's derees the way your jackets

(43:13):
still out today, suns out at least I still have
snow by my house. Oh yeah, we the snow hasn't
even melted by my house. It's it's cold out. They're
playing some games like this one. Pitching usually pretty well
early on when it's cold out, with bats warm up traditionally.
How do you think major League Baseball is doing? How

(43:36):
do I think major League Baseball is doing? We've had
this conversation too, that the NBA obviously is growing, MLB
is dying. I think the MLB rightly recognizes that they
get that, and I think that's why Rob Manfred is
so fervently trying to change the rules to make it,

(43:58):
to make it more marketable, making the home run derby
worth a million dollars to the winner. Do you get
Aaron Judge and Bryce Harper to show up? I think
that you will likely to get Peter along Listen. Ary
Judge did a couple of years ago, Bryce did in
Washington last year. So you want to back that's the
thing I think you. I think that's smart. I think

(44:18):
trying to make commercial breaks shorter. Obviously commercial breaks, yes,
no brainer. The other things that they're doing. I think
you want I think you want to keep home stores
where they are. You don't want big time free agency, obviously,
but I don't know what else they can do. It's
such a long season. So I think back and there

(44:43):
was you're talking to you, You're going into and out. Okay, um.
I think back to when I grew up, and there
was definitely less media. You know, the n c A
was a shadow of what it is today. The NBA
was a shadow of what it was today. But we
were so excited when spring training took off. That was
the start of the new tops baseball cards. We'd all

(45:03):
walk around baseball cards and flipping baseball cards. I have
an eight year old. I see none of that. Okay,
I see none of that. In fact, the baseball season
used to start for us with the first day of
spring training. The baseball season starts from my my, my
eight year old, when the Mets play the Yankees. That

(45:25):
changes everything. That changes every year now. But you know
what I'm trying to say that that's when they kind
of get a little bit and they and their little
league season starts. Okay, they're just not into Meanwhile, all
of these kids were talking about Odell Beckham being traded
and and and their jerseys. He transcends Kevin Duran transcends. Yes, okay,

(45:45):
there is no baseball player that they wear their jerseys.
You think that he writes hard for if anything, it's
Aaron Judge around here, around here, yes, but but no,
I mean Aaron Judge is to Odell Beckham, you know,
is light years away. I mean Odell Beckham light years,

(46:08):
light years away, like you're talking about. You know, every
kid has an Odell Beckham jersey. Okay, you're talking about
the three kids that play travel baseball have Aaron Judge.
It's it's huge, huge difference. I don't know what you
do about it. I think marketing, like the home run Derby,
I think that's smart. People still love power and it's

(46:28):
a good spot for them, So I think that's smart,
a smart thing that they're doing. I don't know what
else you could do. I really don't you want these
guys to have personalities. You want them to be out there.
Then they're violating the rules of baseball when they do that.
It's like, this is stupid. I just think you need them,
you need them to be rowdy, even up to rowdy.
Like I think of Gronk. Everybody loves Gronk, and not

(46:51):
just because he's really good at football or he spikes
the ball really hard, because he's personality and you people
willing to take that as a great name, Gronk, Like
what else would Gronk do? And there are more dogs
named Gronk, and they're usually not like small chihuahuas. You know,
you got a big dog, you name him Gronk, you know, right,
of course those nuns um. I think that you need

(47:14):
a when you really need in baseball the guy that
wants to do that, that wants to be that guy.
I don't know that Aaron George or Mike Trout or
even Ryce Harper want to be that guy. Well, you know,
I think that they were kind of a little bit
on the right track and then they got off the
right track by trying to build these inner city ballparks.

(47:35):
I think that Jake Jacobs Field and the way Minnesota
is in Petco Field is in these nice downtown neighborhoods.
They wanted, you know, doing the smaller ballpark in New York.
Now they want to build the area near city Field.
I think that that's where you know, it would be
fun to go to work, Like right now we're done,

(47:56):
we go early baseball game in the city. You don't
feel like taking the train anywhere where you could walk,
like wrigley Ville. I think that's what they have to
go back to, right I am leaving forward to that,
doc like you and I wrapping up. What is it's,
you know, fifteen past the hour, here us wrapping up
and going down in the Yankee State up the Yankee Stadium,
having a beer outside going to the game. Right that

(48:16):
it would be It would be great. You know when
they talked about building it in the Hudson rail Yards
instead of that and making it urban and cutting it down,
and they were concerned about the traffic, which they're right about.
Unless if you built brought the ballparks down to thirty
two to thirty five thousand, then it's not that much
different than Madison Square Garden. They wouldn't do that. Well.

(48:39):
I think that's where they're going to have it to go.
I mean, I think that's where the attraction would be
as an event, as opposed to you're not gonna slept
there like to the Jersey meadow Lands like you would
once a week, so if you put a baseball team
out in the Jersey meadow Lands, even though it's really
right over the Lincoln Bridge, there's no way anybody is

(49:00):
leaving the city to go do that now. But for
for me being like this is gonna change the next
couple of years, right leave, It's so easy to me
to go to Yankee Stadium. I love it. Yeah, I
mean Yankee stadiums undergone a real renaissance, and that whole
neighborhood has to and they're trying to build the neighborhood
by city field. But that's what I think baseball has
to do is build an inner city. You know. It's

(49:22):
in other words, make it like the happy hour sport.
I mean, that's that's the way I would be marketing it.
You know, you know six thirty seven o'clock games happy
hours where you have young professional crowds where it's like
the hit hot place, and then you have like the
bar scene right across the street at the end, like Wrigleyville.
That's a great experience. Have you've gone to games at

(49:42):
Wrigley I have. I saw Cole Hamills is no hitter
at regular It's a phenomenal experience where you walk to
the game and stuff like that. It's a much better
experience than than driving, you know, and parking in a
parking lot in Long you know, Long Island, Queens. I'm
totally with you. All right, we'll go to a gain,
We'll go to the game. I'm sure you. I'm sure
you have connections everywhere. Doc. So wait, so let's let's

(50:04):
go to the NFL draft. What do you see? What
do you see happening? Does Arizona take Kyler Murray? There's
a lot of smoke there, Doc, there's a lot of
smoke there With Nick Bosa? What trade the pick? I
think they I think they ultimately want to trade the pick.
I do so I think that let's go back to

(50:29):
our Lakers example, they've already thrown Josh Rose and the
under the busy under the bus So I mean yes
and no, yes and no. Right, if they come out
and they draft Nick Bosa or they trade down and
they're like listen or guy, the entire time was Josh
Rosen's is a smoke screen. They could sell that, They
can sell that. I think did they sell it to him?

(50:49):
He's a really smart kid, extremely smart. He's a really
smart kid. Doesn't need football. No, no, no, no, no. Maybe,
but are we so short? Are we so sure that
it's not true? Maybe it is true, not true, and
it is a smoke screen. They do, they do want
to trade down. Maybe it's true. Then they would have said,

(51:11):
how would it have hurt them to say that we're
in love with Josh Rosan. Well, they're not gonna say
that because they want people to think the draft and
Kylor What difference does it make they have the first
pick in the draft if you want Kyler Murray, you know,
it would only make a difference if who's sitting two
with three is going to take four NS fours obviously

(51:32):
wouldn't take them. The Jets obviously aren't taking the right So,
I mean, you know, you can say, you know, we
love Josh bro Throwing Josh Rosen under the bus does
not improve their trade value, Tyler. That's why I think
it must be real. Maybe it might be probably, so,

(51:52):
you know, just throwing ideas, I mean, so I think,
I mean that would be mind boggling, but it's very
very interesting. I don't think they think Kylie Murray, you know,
and that's where everyone's mocking him. I don't think Arizona
takes Kylie Murray just it's just such an admission of
failure the same general manager a year later. I don't

(52:14):
think they do it. I really don't unless you don't
believe in ros unless you're that that off Josh Rosen already,
or you really want to but you really think that
uh as the magic source. I needs Kylin Murray for it,
and he needs Kyler Murray for it. I mean, it

(52:35):
just seems to be strange that they threw him underneath
the bus. I get it. There's no reason to do it.
I get it. You know, you really enhanced because you know, again,
we never really know what people's true value is. Antonio
Brown at three and five, you know what people were
talking to first round picks for Odell Beckham, So we
never have any idea what people him. And of course

(52:55):
came out today and said we got two first round picks.
One of them was just for Jerill Peppers, right right.
You know, again, he was an exciting player in Michigan.
He played fullback, he played running back, played everything. Maybe
we can use him as an option. Maybe maybe he'll
be the Wildcat quarterback. You know, it's it's something a
little different and maybe he'll throw O'Dell Beckham's because Odell

(53:18):
Beckham I think had the Giants too longest touchdown passes
of the year. He did, I mean through him. I know,
I know exactly you mean. It lost their best quarterback.
That's the problem. It was. It's it's but again, uh,
it's It's very interesting. If you had to stay, who's
the worst team in football? Rancey would be the New

(53:40):
York Football and it wouldn't be close. I agree with
you that we say thank you to Dave Gettleman. Thank
you Dave Getman for for that. Thank you did Getman
for the show content. And uh, next week when we
sit in these seats until Merrilyn and I are still
playing basketball, about that, that would be like, absolutely absolutely awesome.

(54:00):
So we're I was in Columbus. I wasn't. That's good
for them. I was in Columbus, Maryland in Jacksonville, Fine,
not upset about that. If they win Washington d C.
Where what are the other is Washington the closest to
New York of the of the next weekends East It's well,
but it's west is in the east and the East

(54:22):
is in the way. It's like when I was a
kid that used to have the commercial for Carval, Like
you know, Wednesday is Sunday, Tuesday is Sunday, you know,
and I guess Thursdays and no more, you know, every
day Sunday. So you know, the West is in Hortford.
You know, it's like they move things around. Well, the west,
well it's the early ones at Hartford. The west isn't

(54:43):
somewhere else. I don't know, but yes, the east is.
It's the closest and I'm very, very excited about it.
So that's kind of the tournament playing games start tomorrow.
Do you think Belmont is gonna win? I think they're
gonna beat Tevile and frand Umphy's last coaching game in
the in the first four, it seems afropa grand dumpy

(55:05):
you know, coached Penn forever. He wanted to stay and
you walked in and the he asked for a light raise.
They said, no, that's right, that's right, stay in the area.
His wife has always been very successful. All right, how
about that successful wife's successful marriage, successful year. That's gonna
do it for us here on Doc Jock tonight. I
want to thank Dr Mitchell Rosalind when we return next week,

(55:27):
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