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The Fantasy Sports Radio Network. What is up, everybody, Welcome
inside Studio thirty four. This is Doc. He is Dr
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Mitchell rosalind. I am Greg Susman. We have so much
talk about over the next hour or so. Let's get
right into a Doc has a going It's going well,
and there's so many fascinating things to to to speak about.
You know, we usually start with the NFL, the Jets.
The Jets are back to being an NFL franchise. Kansas City,
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Um does it does not look like Kansas City is
going to be a cake walk to the super Bowl.
They look very vulnerable and um, San Francisco, if you
use the eye test, possibly has been the best team
in the NFL. And the question, I mean, you're not
a your head because you would say Patriots. I actually,
you know, and maybe I'm crazy. I didn't think the
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Patriots looked all at mighty And it's interesting to talk about.
And I think that they're going to be the next
teams whose vulnerabilities will be seen. But as you know,
if you're going to go by president, they'll get it
right by the end of December. Yeah, I think the
Patriots are one of these teams that figure it out. Obviously,
they didn't look great against the Giants. I totally agree
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with that. On one hand, they did. In one hand,
they don't. On one hand, you know, yes, the Giants
were playing without everybody, you know, they tons of place,
But he was throwing to Gunner and Jacoby Myers, so,
like you know, it sounded like a law firm. His
tight end was Izzo. It wasn't as if these were
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household names, and they still moving down the field. On
the other hand, the Giants had a lot of pressure,
sacked him three times, had an interception, bubo recovery. I
don't know if they played well or the Patriots offensive
line is more vulnerable I guess until Dante coaches them
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up um than than usual. And and I think it's
kind of interesting segue that the Chiefs, if you really
count the line game, have really lost the battle at
the line of scrimmage for the last three weeks. And
it made me think about what has made the Patriots
so good for so long. I think it's a very
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interesting statistic. The Patriots run the ball inside the five
yard line within any other team in the NFL. The
Giants defense, in general, like you said, they were able
to get to Tom Brady last Thursday night. And given
the wholes New England has, as you said just moments ago,
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they're gonna fill it in as it goes on to December,
and they always a team that gets better. Undefeated right now,
I think it says a lot of how good they
are right now. I think Francisco's defense is fantastic. You
mentioned San Francisco, who you believe the best team in football.
I don't know that their offense is good enough to
face some of these high flying teams. Shot the Rams,
but their offensive line is terrible. The Rams offensive line
is awful. Jared Goff has regressed. Sean McVeigh, boy wonder
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has regressed. Has Jack Goff and Sean McVeigh regressed? Or
when you can run the ball and you put more
people in the box, does everybody become a better play caller?
So and and and and and we now, you know,
going back where we're all enamored by the greatest show
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on turf and things like that. By the way, they
won won Super Bowl. Um. But and the point that
I made about the Patriots is we always think about Brady.
We always think about you know, Brady to gronk. But
as I said, over the last ten years, they've ran
the ball inside the five yard line more than any
other team. And I guess what we're really seeing is
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football is still even with the different rules, even with
you know, being more friendly to throw the ball, it's
still a battle at the line of scrimmage. And when
Indianapolis beat the Chiefs up, the Patriots defensive line is
beating up other offensive lines. But if the Patriots offensive
line can't beat up other teams defensive lines, and I
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think the jet game is coming in is an interesting game.
I think we're going back in a strange way where
strength in the middle is probably being underrated because of
outside speed, and we're coming back to a point where
if you dominate the middle, everything spreads from that. I
agree one thousand pre sent that everything comes from the
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defensive line of the offensive line and winning those battles
in the trenches. The Rams have not been able to
do that, going back to your question and have their
regret regrets or is the lack of running game allowing
them to um or not allowing them to run their offense?
I think that which by and launch is why I
don't think the Steel is a dead I think the
steel Is defensive line is getting better. I think that,
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you know, playing a third spring quarterback. Their offensive line
seems to be coming slightly along, and they always had
talent on that. And I don't think that division. I
think that I don't think Baltimore is head entails better
than anybody. I think on any given Sunday, Cleveland could
win a game. Cincinnati is not gonna go oh in sixteen,
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although they might know, you know, at least you wouldn't
have believe so at the beginning of the season, and
and and and honestly, they they're they're they're probably if
they're smart, they trade a J. Green this year. They
break down the team, so that that may change things
to some extent in that division because they have to
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break it down. You know, they made their attempts with
a J. Green in Dalton, you know, Joe Nixons and
nice back, so I think they have to break it down,
so they may break it down all of the West
as they as they should. Whenever you get one of
these new head coaches and regimes, you gotta break it down.
They're gonna need a new quarterback. They're going any new
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the wide receivers actually come on the younger ones. Joe
Mixon is young. That e fantastic about her. They needed
to totally totally bottom out. You know what's fascinating. And
I heard this is Minnesota. So on one of the
Vegas shows, they said that Kurt Cousins, and this was
before the Giant game, has ridiculously good numbers in one
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o'clock early games and absolutely awful in prime time games.
And they made the statement that he is so regimen
almost O c D like that if you throw him
off his routine, he's absolutely terrible. So two weeks ago
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everyone was saying Cousins was the worst quarterback, the worst
signing in history. Has two great weeks. I mean, you
can write off the Giant week, but then goes and
yesterday has a great game in Philadelphia. It was interesting.
They were both one o'clock stocks early on. But I
think Minnesota is another team that has a very strong
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defensive line, and I would not, you know, I I'd
say that they have a puncher's chance in that division. Um,
and I think Dallas will be all right as well.
So even a lot of teams that you think are
gonna be all right that are kind of in the
mix here, and they're all half of the same thing
in common that those lines are the strongest part of
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their teams. I don't want to say the Steelers can
compete with a second or third string quarterback with their
defense very much is for real. I think Minnesota one
o'clock games and their defense is real. You go back
to San Francisco, their defense is for real. These defenses
almost the story of the year thus far, I think
because so much of last year was about the offense
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of Kansas City and the Rams putting up fifty points
on the regular, but we waged the Rams. The Chiefs
have really been dialed back the last couple of weeks
as well, with with Mahome was battling that ankle sprain
with a little bit even more important and and it's
an interesting conversation people were arguing, is Pat Mahomes had
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a better career than Deshaun Watson. Um, And And if
you really actually look at the numbers, the answers probably no. Um.
Deshaun Watson's really won a lot of football games. He's
a winning quarterback. I think that a lot of the
Chiefs issues, you know, it's like everything interconnects. A lot
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of the Chiefs issues is that their defensive line is
getting blown off the line of scrimmage. I think they
come out and I don't think it's an offensive problem.
They got off to a seventeen nothing lead yesterday, but
again they lost the battle and they lost the war
of attrition, and by the fourth quarter when Houston had
to they were able to walk down the field, run
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ball control, and keep my homes off off off off
the board. Indianapolis basically beat them by throwing, you know,
a hundred and fifty body shots. They basically beat them up,
and I think that the Lions beat them up too,
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But the Lions kind of felt they had to outscore them.
They didn't realize how vulnerable I think they were, and
that led to them losing losing that game. But the
Chiefs easily could have lost the last three games and
they're losing the battle at the line of scrimmage. I
think that they went ahead and they've gotten all of
these edge rushers, but they just don't have the push
and the strength and the inside. And I think that's
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where football is going back to. Where you know, you
looked at the Eagles when they won the Super Bowl.
Fletcher Cox was a big part of that um all
of the years that knew England was good. You look
at Vince wolf Folk that high down the middle of
the field, I think that you know, that seems to
be I think that was lost because you see the
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sacks coming from the edge, and it's going to be
the teams that can dominate in the middle that I
think of going to do better consistently. I mean, I
think that that's what we're seeing. That's why we see
this helter skelter where where where the stock values of
these teams go up and down so so quickly. Absolutely,
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and the lines, not unlike bullpens, are not always predictable.
And I think you see the most injuries along those
lines in the trenches. And the Rams last year were
able to stay healthy, right, but all of those sixteen
games together, and you saw the continuity there. Uh, the
Chiefs have battled this year offensive line issues and Cowboys
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played yesterday without both. Absolutely, Absolutely, there's that's no coincidence
that Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott and Todd gurl In
the running game in Kansas City doesn't look nearly as
good without a healthy offensive line. I don't lose any
doubt about that. And and in the salary cap league,
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and you're paying your skilled positions, it seems that the
unpredictable nature of this is whose bullpen is going to
be best at the end of the year, Whose offensive
line is going to be best towards the end of
the year. And it seems like that's the moving grid
that you see now a few things when we leave
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football and and and that is um, you know, you
saw Sam Donald come back, and I guess if you're
going to vote for a most valuable player, you have
to vote for them, because the Jets didn't even look
like an NFL franchise the four weeks they're at. But
I mean, obviously Donald played well, Obviously he gave energy
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to everybody. But then you find that whole thing crazy.
It almost seemed like they weren't trying. I mean, they
couldn't have brought in somebody better than Luke Fulk. It
also tells you that Davis Webb must be absolutely all horrific.
I mean he because he was mentioned in the same
breath as Pat Mahomes. If you look at the pre
draft thing, the Jets had him, and I believe that
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they could have resigned him off the Buffaloes practice squad.
I don't think he was eligible. I mean it seemed like,
you know, you know, the Cleveland game they were into,
and then Simeon gets hurt basically on the first drive
of the game, and after that it seemed like Adam
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Gaye just kind of packed it in until yesterday. It's
really weird, you know, Okay, and he and Luke Fulk
was with him in Miami and he was dread awful.
But they couldn't have gotten somebody else in here. They
couldn't have gotten the duck in here, and too, you know,
with his duck calls somebody just to show that they
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were trying. What's that kind of strange? That whole scenario
almost like they laid down until Donald was coming back.
It's bizarre, to be honest with you, to go you
with Trevor Simeon who immediately got hurt, and then Luke
Falk for the next three weeks or so, and then
cut him in an hour, which means that you couldn't
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believed in him. It's like they were not trying. It
was mind boggling me. It was like Geese didn't want
to show anything. When did you have a quarterback that
could execute or he isn't the goal to as someone say,
win football games? Isn't isn't that the goal? They didn't try.
I agree. It seemed like he was like a kid pouting,
like they took away his shiny toy and he was
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gonna show you. It was very, very strange. I've never
seen that in professional sports, to be perfectly honest, I've
never felt I mean, and again, if there was ever
an argument that Colin Colin Kaepernick has been blackballed, I mean,
you know, you just had to watch well and you
know who the owners of the Jets are. They're not
bringing kN Kaepernick. I mean, it's it's, it's it's but
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I've never seen that to that level where I mean,
I'm not talking about blowing games for a draft pick
or the processes people are referring to, or even what
Miami you know, is doing, which is trading. The issue
with that is they're trying to when they seem to
be trying to win games players that are on the field.
But the Jets spent millions of dollars in free agency.
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They bring people in like Levy and Bell who are
in their prime Jamison Crowder, I mean, and and J
Moseley c J Moseley who was out as well. And
I said it. You know, all viruses are different, you
really can't. You know, people talking about out for the years,
splinic ennolargement, they're all different. You can't extrapolate because your
daughter who played lacrosse at Lafayette has has mono that
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it's the same virus, you know, in the same same
disease course that Sam Bono had. But it was amazing,
like they just wrote it off. I've never seen a
pro franchise do that before. It was they just gave up.
And and again I don't I don't know the you know,
I think the New England game is in the Meadowlands,
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it is in MetLife next week because they played up
in New England the first correct, So I mean, I
would actually think that that line is own is going
to be less than five points. That's probably we probably
probably have that right now, right Monday night next week,
Monday Night football, see my phone. Actually no, that's not
exactly what it is. So right now Monday Night football,
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the Jets and the Patriots. What are you thinking of us?
I would say five New England five ten. I think
that line is way too high. But on the Jets,
I think that line's way too I I think that
on the Jet, I I think the Jets are gone
to show up. And and I you know again again,
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New England hasn't had to score. Okay, they really haven't
had to score. But their offense did not look great
against the Giants. Their offense did not look great against Buffalo.
And I didn't think their offense looked great against the Jets,
who really weren't even trying. So I think that this
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is an energy energized Jet team. I still think their
offensive line stinks, but if their offensive line is getting better,
I give him a puncher shot. We'll see what happens
Monday Night. Patriots have seemed vulnerable to an extent. Let's
see what the Jets can do on Monday Night Football
as they host the New England Patriots this Monday ESPN.
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So you brought up a bullpen. So I think that is,
you know, a great segue into baseball. And let's go
back to before we go onto the Yankees, Astros and
and and the Cordinals Nationals. Let's go back to Los
Angeles and Dave Robert and the decision about keeping Clayton
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Kersha where it seemed like everybody in the media claubed him,
and by saying that, you know, he's a starter, he's
never pitched well in the playoffs. Starters start, relieve is relieve,
and Dave Roberts, who won a hundred and six games,
shouldn't be even brought back to be the manager of
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the Dodgers. What's your opinion on that? So it's a
good question. It's a fair question when you are up
three one. He used crusha igality and ain't fine. But
your formula is there right like you were in the
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situation in the eighth inning turning over to your normal guys.
But you don't have to do something different. You're not
in that You're not in that position that you're gonna
have to force something. Your starter did Walker Viel just
exactly what he had to do. Walkabulla did exactly what
he had to do. But let's you know, arguments sake,
you know, and you're gonna say they only used him
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for one batter the national you used Corbin got it
and go back to last year Chris Sale. Now go
back to the Yankees Astros series Charlie Morton when four
or five innings, if I remember correctly. But isn't it
so it all comes down to the trust, doesn't it?
It comes down to the trust? Well, I think it's
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sometimes we use the retrospect to scope and Okay, so
he gets you out of the seventh um what's his name?
Uh road? Randon leads off. It's a home run. Now
you have a left handed hit her. I mean, up,
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you know you're handling him in. You have to leave
him in now, right? And then Soto takes him deep,
lefty and lefty twenty one year old against the Hall famer.
I mean, and I know that everyone says that clay
You know, the stupidest argument I heard is that Clayton
Kershaw is terrible in the late innings and playoffs. That
assumes that he tires. Okay, I I don't see that
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at all. Then the other thing they said is, oh,
he's not a clutch pitch troop. Well, there's some validity
to that argument. If you look at his spreads in
the playoffs and the regular season, they've not been great.
But again in Dodger Stadium, he's been unreal and and
he has pitched. He pitched the gem against the Mets
in the playoffs and stuff like that. I guess I'm
what I'm trying to say is it didn't work. They
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lost the series. You win a hundred and six games,
you're supposed to get out of the first round. But
I wasn't, as I thought. It was more retrospect to scope.
I mean, the same people saying that the Red Sox
shouldn't have Pitch Quissale at the end of last year,
the same people saying the same thing when Charlie Mooten.
They just hailed those his brilliant performances. I mean the
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Red Sox one by basically rotating sale David Price, whoever
wasn't pitching to kind of get home. Um, the Yankees,
you know, and in Houston are gonna do kind of
the same. So is everybody just jumping down his throat
because it didn't work. Yes, of course, And that actually
brings me back to brings me the last night with
the Yankees, where I've seen a lot of people today,
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include my own group of friends, like woke up to
you to this morning killing Boone. Then the eleventh inning,
well that's Anthony. Rather, he had turned to Caesar Sabathia,
Jonathan Lewis and Jay Hat and the eleventh inning obviously
half allowed as the home run to Korea. And my
thought was, you kidn't he passion, didn't have anything like
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he was never he was nowhere around the pot. I
think Boon is managing to go for the jugula like
every game counts. And I thought that Boone had this
quote doc he had this quote after the game. I
thought it was the perfect quote describing exactly how I
thought about it as well. I want to read it
see him consider it all. Even though it went well,
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once you remove a starter that early, you could start
a chain of events where you go to extra innings.
You're not using your traditional relievers. You're playing to win
the game. You're not playing a one. If we go
thirteen innings, you know I'll figure it out. You're playing
and what gives us the best chance to win. Here.
The bottom line is we ended up getting a third
run in the eleventh inning. We're run prevention standpoint. We
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did well. They were in the game. There were the
extra innings. There there was a lot of one run
over nine inings. I think Boone has managed fantastically well
incorporating I think you're going to see a different baseball that.
But that's where I was segueing after us. But first
of all, again Boone's job as a manager was to
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have the Yankees have a chance when Verlanda left the game.
That was his job as a manager. The fact that
the Yankees couldn't score, Joe Joe Smith and Roverto Soona said,
is that the professional baseball players. But the ay you
break down this series is that the goal in the
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goal for the Yankees tomorrow night is to be within
one run when Cole leaves the game if they're tied,
And the fact that Verlanda could not get a win
in yesterday's game is a win for the Yankees. That
means the manager did their job especial unless, of course,
like to Dave and Verlanda didn't have it. But that
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was not the case. Verlanda got to the bottom of
the seventh, two ounce into the bottom of the seventh
if I'm right, okay, and leaves the game in a
two two tie. At that point in time, when you're
sitting next to your friends and your fiance, you say
advantage Yankees, yes and no, yes, Okay, Now the fact
that the Yankees couldn't score a run, and the Yankees
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have done a great job taking a lot of pitching
and stuff like that is is you know, sometimes you
don't always win, which doesn't mean you didn't play it right.
You're going to get into a game. You play to
win the game where your last guy may have to
pitch nine innings. I mean, you know that's just the
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way it works. Now here's what you get into the
interesting argument. And you know, again, if you have a
Severino and he has been healthy the whole year, you
potentially could even consider doing that. I would do that
to win that game if I had a chance. I'd
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use my starter the next day, and then I'd worry
about Wednesday and then bring him back a day earlier
after that. I think with dealing with Severino who missed
the entire year, you're not gonna do anything to take
him off of his schedule. But had that been a
Max Scherza, Okay, you know, it's no different. You know
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what I brought up. Max Scherza went and got the
ball in in the National Series in in in Alaska.
If it's a Max Cherson, who really is a very
durable starting pitcher, And I'm sitting there in extra innings
in a ten ten in in the tenth inning, and
he wants the ball, I give it to him. I'll
worry about Wednesday on Wednesday totally. I totally agree with that.
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And last night Aaron Moon did everything he had to
do to keep his team in the game. And Jay
have a lot of a solo shot in the eleventh inning,
and Adam Davino allowed a solo shot in the fifth
inning or whatever it was. You do, you know, And
and in all, honestly, the Yankees were lucky to have
a to one lead. When you were watching that game,
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it seemed like they got the double play. I think
in the first inning it seemed like Paxson was going
to give up six runs. That was like he left.
He left the game, you know, giving up one run
and it seemed like they had four or five when
you're watching that, you know. But it's so interesting, and
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you we talked about Wednesday being a bullpen game. I
think baseball is changing in our eyes, and it's going
to change more that it's it's getting so hard to
find Verlander's and Garrett Cole's and the grams and shures
and even when you find them, their health is very,
very difficult. I think you're gonna see I mean, and
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I think cash and alluded to this, like why pay
somebody thirty million when you can pay three ten million
per se? But the next generation of this is they're
gonna start training people in the minor leagues to pitch
to three innings, you know, in the American League. And
I think that the thought process will be it will
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speed development, which is money because you won't since you
don't need to see people three times through the order,
you can get by with less pitches. Okay, we're gonna
to bring up morons to the National you know. I've
always thought it was a matter of time, okay until
the National League had the designated hitter. And I'm wondering,
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if you see people now take the Tampa Bay strategy,
really break it down to which matchups and electively raise
a farm system where you're pitching a hundred and forty
innings a year, but you're doing it over seventy games
and you're just matching these guys on and off and
you can just do it whenever you want. I think
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we're heading towards that. Do do you do you get
what I'm saying. Hey, I completely get what you're saying.
So the tam Bay raised last year when they institute
of the opener, because they only had two starters on
their team. They said, listen, if we're going to do this,
we need our entire system to do this. They couldn't
just get to the majors and then transform them. They
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wanted to build them up from the bottom up and
be like, hey, we need you ready for this, whether
it's pitching every single day, those two winnings a day,
every other day, three innings a day. We wanted people
that would come up and know how to be openers,
that would know how to be a bull guy, know
how to be a late inning guy. And I think
you are going to see that coming in mind to
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make sense because he here's here's what's happening. People say, well,
why do people do Why Why is Anderson so good
with the Rays and and wasn't as good for Florida
and stuff like that. One of the things is they've
done a better job asking people to do what they
do well rather than train them in the classic sense.
So they're allowing people who have two good pictures to
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pitch with two good pictures and they figured out a way.
Now I'm not in the the the I'm not in
the um business of developing pictures. But I would tend
to think from a health standpoint, the amount of great
starters that we've seen. We just brought up Louee at
least Sevareno, and I hope he's never heard again. But
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even the people that you would invest in Chris Sale,
it was certainly not the same this year that he
was last year. Okay. The amount of people that developed
like Sherza that can do it year in and year out.
Ver Lando, we talked about Clayton Kershaw, Madison Bumgarden, Adam Waynewright,
I'll give you there much less then the people that
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come up and look like they're going to be the
greatest picture that you've ever seen for a few years
and then become Matt Harvey. So I would tend to
think from a probability standpoint and a health standpoint, you're
going to be better off. Now. I think the people
like Steve Boris are gonna have pushback. Scott Boris are
gonna have pushback about that. But especially if I'm an
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American League team, and I think the only way to
counter that unless that's you know, because I don't think
that would be great, you know, essentially, or first of all,
you're gonna have to stagger your lineup. You're not gonna
be able to have like murderous Row three, four and five,
because you know you could. I know most managers try
to stagger right e lefty and break it up so
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that you can't put in the lefty dominant. Relieve it.
But even if you do that, they have one guy
and and and do that. But now you know that
they may do that in innings and and and and
and you know you could eventually have five people electively.
I'm using a medical word now it is pitching a
nine inning game. And I think that's where we're heading,
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and the systems are going to do that. I very
much agree with that, I think. And you're still gonna
be harder to do in the National League. Yes, of course,
but you you stated this, and rightly correctly, I should
say in that is really hard to develop the Jacob Degram's,
Max Scherzer's, the Adam Wayne rights, what have you. It's
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not easy to do. It's probably easy to develop for
Tommy Kaneley's very much cell has two great pitches, could
throw a ninety five miles per hour, has a great
change of or slider, and that's it. So Chad Green,
I think what you're going to have is every team
has your two starters, your traditional starters, maybe your three
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traditional starters. But you're going to see, specifically in the
a L. I agree with you teams relying on these
guys that go two and three and and that's and
that's it. I think that's the start of it. But
I think it's gonna go perpetual, especially if those teams
do well and may go across the bulls. And we're
seeing it. There's two best teams in the American League
all season long, having the Yankees and the Astros the
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two best teams. And the Astros acquired zachar and get
the deadline. That's great. And the Yankees got Louis Severino
back for the playoffs, and that's great. Both of these
two teams of three starting pictures, both of them in
the playoffs, the American League Championship Series. In Game four,
they're gonna have bullpen games, something you that has unheard
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of as recently as two years ago. You would never
have a bullpen game in Game four of the Championship
League Series, and both of them are going to do it.
And and I think this is just the start. And
I and that's why I asked a question. Is I
always thought when there was gonna be uniformity, they'd be
the designated hitter in the National League now and I
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know the Union wouldn't go for it because of the
loss of stuff like that. I just wonder the way
baseball is going if that or some other rule change
is going to be because you may reach the point
of nine pitches pitching nine innings. So what they're gonna
do about that? I think in DH is definitely gona
come to the National League. I think it's inevitable. Um
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and the regards of the pitching changes, I think the
rule next year is to start right that you have
to phase at least three atters like that's going to
be the start of it. And then we'll see as
these teams care about that as much, you know, because
it's the end of the Louvie like what you saw
from CS Matheia last night won't happen anymore. Right that
that hurts the lefty special Yeah, but but but what
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what they're going to do is we're gonna see a
essential change. And then it becomes you're not gonna see
you the Grams. You're not gonna see your shirts. Is
because I don't think they're going to take the risk
in developing those people. Like I said, it's just easier.
Of course it's ten Kami Caneley's But yes, so so
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you both ent onally so deep that you need other
You're gonna need someone well. But again it's interesting because
you're still looking at it from a classical thought process,
and and and realize, you know, let's look at these
great pictures the Gram I know, well, because we know
the Mets system better because we're local. The gram was
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not the apple of the Mets system coming certainly not
cyndergarden Us okay or Harvey. He was actually even Matt's
you heard about more okay, Um Severino was the apple
of the Yankee system. And now now now Dia Diaz.
I really don't you know. Sures was not considered the
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great young prospect when he came up with Detroit. Well,
sure there was a big time prospect. That's not true
for for Arizona. Sures there was a big time prospect. Yeah, yeah,
he gets traded. And um, you know, I have no
idea about kersch or Or. You know, I remember I
remember him as a major league picture Walker Bueller was
a big time prospect. Walka Bueller is fantastic. But again,
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Walter Buella has not had longevity yet yet. I mean,
you know, Walter Walka Bueller is at the same stage
of his career where my hobby, you know, when town
home okay, you know, and started having injuries and and
and that's the question. And you look at the Chicago
Cubs great pictures, you know both um mack Um Prior
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and Kerry would you know those guys probably, by the way,
the new pitching coach for the Dodgers about that, and
and and it's interesting and I'm trying to remember, did
Adam Wainwright throw the curveball that locked up? He's still pitching.
That's that's a That's an absolutely amazing thing, Sue. I
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just think that this is is changing and the Yankee
Astro series is fascinating. Um, you know, you would think
that tomorrow is a must game for the Astros. You
know too, I think, yeah, I think it's the most
game of both teams. Well, your believe the Game three
is a pivotal game. I think that both teams are
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in a position the Eggies have to you know, it's
very horrid with Garrett Cole on the mound, but they
can win that that game there in such a great
spot in this series, such a great spot. Would you
ever think of staggering? I mean, I know it's tough
because they went to the bullpin so early, making game
three your your bullpin game against Garrett Cole and then
pitched Sevreno and game well, no, because you want Severino
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available for games seven? So now, m yeah, what else
you got for me? Doctor? What do you think of
the whole thing that the n c A A, you know,
the do you pay their players first? They should? Well,
I think the n c A has handled this really
very very first of all fully and then as rules
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make no sense. So the idea, the idea that you
can get paid or playing a different sport, but you
can't get paid for playing the sport you're known for.
I mean, there are so many contradictions and hypocritical nous
and that the n c A has become um pushing,
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you know, basically a board that just everybody wants to criticize,
and then again they do things that make you want
to criticize them, Like I always was aghast at the
n c A finding penn State over the Jerry Sandusky thing.
Like the n c a A is a sports conference
that for e sports. They're not the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania,
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they're not the federal court system. I mean, how I'm
not trying just because you can't defend Jerry Sandusky and
what he did is so horrific, everybody wants to come
down on him. It's just a public relations stunt. It
had nothing to do with the competitive balance of football. Okay.
And if I'm a stay, you know, and if I'm
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a taxpayer in Pennsylvania and that's a state university, why
do I want my taxpaying money that goes to the
school to pay a fine to the n c a
A so that they can pile on. So they do
a lot of different things, but they've also done a
poor job. And if I was running, then I would
articulate what they're trying to accomplish and recognize that it's
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very very difficult. Number One, people have the wrong idea,
you know, about a lot of different things. Most people
in the n c a A playing sports are kids
like my son, you know, who will never play sarious
competitive sports once they start working, and it adds to
their college experience, and it's it's an excellent vehicle for
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that because of the college basketball tournament that pays for
the n c A championships. In every other sport, what
they want is they want competitive balance, they want school spirit,
they want a fair playing field. They want to be
able to offer the revenue and non revenue producing sports.
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And I feel that they've done a bad job of
articulating these things and allowed people like Jay Billis to
control the dialogue and say, Okay, well it's not fair
that coaches are getting paid ten, you know, million dollars
a year and Zion Williamson's not getting paid. That's an exception,
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you know, and with people like that, that's not the
general rule. It also, if you go look at a
place like U for the first time in my life
when I was growing up, I never heard anybody tell
me they were going to University of Alabama. Okay, I
went to Stuyveson High School. Okay, we we we went
to places like Penn etcetera. You know, people went to
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the New York State schools. If they went down south,
it was to Duke Vanderbilt um Emery. If they weren't
that high academically. As high academically, they went to Tulane
University of Miami, but no one went to the University
of Alabama. Okay, University of Alabama has now become a
national school because of the money they've brought in through football.
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It's become very profitable that they've reinvested in in the school. Okay,
Notre Dame is one of the hardest schools to get
into in the country, if you know, academically outstanding. I
seriously doubt if it wasn't for the gipper and the
sports program that everybody in the country would want to
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go to South Bend to have. It would have that
fraternal drawer to bring people all over the world. Two.
I think that the n c A, if they would
be honest with these things and say that we understand
our rules have been contradictory. Our rules may not make sense,
but we don't really know what the best rules are.
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I think they'd be better off changing the dialogue and
getting some of these points out rather than to seem
that they're stealing money from poor kids. The message, I'll
tell you, the messaging for the n c A is terrible.
The look is terrible. The public sentiment is not nearly
on their side anymore. When you have these greedy businessmen,
these commissioners are the big ten of the A c C.
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I don't think it's right, like you, what you're describing,
how you're taking money from these poor kids. It looks terrible,
it sounds terrible, and it is terrible. But like I said,
there's a lot of things. You know, they have to
redo the system. But you know, again, what I don't
want to see, how been and I think you're going
to see happen, is the system that you're going to
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see in Europe. Okay, And and the system in Europe
is really not as good you are. And my kids
and people say, well, what is the system of Europe.
The system in Europe is that there are these large
clubs like and that's that. That's what you know Barcelona
is and they have you know, more than just soccer.
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They have their basketball teams, they have training for tennis,
they have all of these things. And what happens is
there's no high amateur athletics. So there isn't a place
in Europe for the kid that has the college experience
to go play baseball. There isn't the college experience for
the Division three athletes. There isn't the college experience for
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for for the girls volleyball team. And and that's what
you know. If you start paying players completely, what's going
to happen is you're going to only have the revenue
producing sports because the most of the way the school's
work is that the athletic departments have to be somewhat
break even, so they're basically taking money from the revenue
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producing sports to have these things in other areas. Um
And is that the system that we really want? I
don't think we really do, and I think that trying to.
I really wish that the n c A had leadership
that would express some of the positives that they're trying,
you know, start with what they're trying to accomplish, and
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then concede that the way you've been doing it is wrong.
That's the way I would approach this, and then try
to come up with a new set of rules, because
I think it would be a shame if we saw
a lot of things disappear and I think that's what
we're on the verge of in the next ten years.
Speaking of controversy, Doc and n C double a relator,
it is basketball related, specifically the NBA and China. How
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do you think of how everything has been handled? But
you know, I think that the n B a you know,
when it was it's kind of easy. I just gave
this said something similar. It's easy to say that Sandusky
is a monster. Okay, It's easy to come out against
Donald Sterling. Okay, it was really really easy to come
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out with Donald Sterling. Okay. I think that once the
NBA took that position, they have no choice but to
turn a blind eye to what Daryl Morey said. But
what Daryl Morey did is actually counterproductive for the people
that he works for, and every single business person, you
have to understand who you work for. So right now
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we're here in sports Grid. Is it right that Sports
Grid is paying your salary and you do something that
It's not like your integrity was was brought about. It's
not like it was a a you know, an issue
that hits home. It's not like turning a blind eye
to slavery. The Hong Kong, China situation is a very
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complex situation, and if you're taking salary from the Houston Rockets,
you don't take and put your employer into a controversy
that they don't have to be in. I mean, the
bottom line is he is not going to be punished
because of the position that the NBA has taken, and
it will look bad if the NBA looks contradictory after
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trying to explain free press, press and stuff like that.
But the issues, for example, Colin Kaepernick, Lebron James, these
are issues that involve these type of players. Okay, the
situation in Hong Kong, I'm not sure involves Daryl Morey,
And as an executive of the Houston Rockets, I wouldn't
fire him because I couldn't with the NBA thing. But
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if I own the Rockets, I'd be furious. Sure till
tillover is I'd be absolutely furious because I you know,
and maybe I sound like a hypocrite. You know that
you should be doing what's right and stuff like that,
but there are some issues that don't involve your workplace
and that you don't have to take a position on
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and if they hurt your employer, I I think that's
part of the oath of office that you take for
cashing their paycheck. And and I'm not trying to to
enforce a policy where people you know, are treated wrongly
by the Houston Rockets. That's a different story, you know,
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if the Rockets were doing something that was prejudicial, and
then he has every right to speak up. But on
global world issues, if he has a problem with their
relationship with China, because Hong Kong, that should be said
in private, because he's taking their paycheck, so what he
did was not great for his employer. You have Steve
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heard tweeting and speaking out against the president at all times.
I understand that, but I don't think that negatively right now,
especially with this but this this president affects the goal,
you know, And you also have to understand China. Okay,
China functions as a business. Okay, the government is more
like a board of a business. Then it is a
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true government. We use the word authoritative, but essentially they
run the business of China and whatever good for the
business of China. So they are much more capable of
a stone wall policy because just like you know, a
board of a board can say, okay, we're not doing
business there. China is capable of doing that and doing
stuff when you get into domestic and curse free speech
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and stuff like that. I don't think that adversely affects
the Golden State's business, especially in the liberal market, like
Golden State. Fair enough, all right, before we rev up
like anything else for us here. So it's I guess
we should do some h there's some predictions as we go.
So we started off with NFL football, So let's let's
let's go tonight's game, green Bay against the Lions. Yeah,
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green Bay versus Roy at Detroit. Three and a half
point dogs in green Bay tonight, which basically means the
lines makers think they're about pick team that's correct about
green Bay a little bit, a little bit better. Um,
green baysman real run the football. I think Detroit's be
able to stop the run. I think Detroit covers tonight.
I think green Bay wins. Okay, I mean I'm not
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going to buy in for the Lions. Yeah, and I'm
gonna say that. You know, if if green Bay, you know,
can beaten Dallas in Dallas, they can beat Detroit at home.
Let's go to next week, and I think it's a
very interesting game. Giants Arizona Kyler Murray Daniel Jones battle
the first two rookie quarterbacks taking these here in the
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NFL Draft. Can the Giants stop the explosive Arizona Cardinals offense? Doesn't?
Do they have to? Maybe like Arizona? Huh? Well, I
think that you know, you know, and I would have
told you I think that Brady is easier for the
Giants to play. You know, then then Kirk Cousins was.
And I know that sounds absolutely stupid. Understand what you're saying. Okay,
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it doesn't sound great, but I mean it sounds like
they're gonna play that Quurt on the radio and say,
what where did they find this idiot? Okay, but but
Minnesota runs a lot of bootlegs. Giants overreact to everything.
I just think that that's a matchup of hell for
the Giants, and you know, matchups make things. Um. The
Giants like a stationary target and and they hate bootlegs
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and people that run run out and even if you
don't run well. They had trouble with Jamis Winston's bootlegs
and stuff like that. So I don't buy that the
Giants defense has gotten worlds better yet. I think that.
You know, that's going to be a very high scoring game. Jets,
New England. That's Monday night, doc, I will take I
think the Giants for the record. By the way, this
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really I think the Giants. I just really, I hope
the Giants, New England and Bill Belichick get the job done.
But don'ts hover don't cover? They cover? They covered the ten.
I think they cover the ten baseball playoffs. Let's do it.
Yankees Astros. It's not fair. I think the Yankees are
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the better team. I think the Yankees on the series.
How about that? My preseason prediction was the Astros winning
the World Series. But I think the Ees are a
better team. And you think the Nationals are gonna hold
against St. Louis? Think that series not over yet? I
think that series is not over yet. I'll say that
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the national is probably better. I don't know that that
series over yet. I think that goes longer than people think.
I you know, I always thought Houston was going to
beat the Yankees, and I think that the I I
like the way Boone's managing, and I like the way
the Yankees are playing so hard every act back. And
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I mean I think that Houston is really really gritty.
I thought the min Anesota series was really really interesting.
The Minnesota pitches just could not finish off the Yankee hitters.
And I think what's going to happen is this series
goes on, is that the Houston bullpen is not going
to be able to finish off the Yankee hitters. I
think that the quote of the year is going to
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be Boon's, my guys, the savages in the box. And
you know, I think that Houston, with the catcher and
the young designated hitter, has more undisciplined outs in the
lineup in the Yankees do. And I think that this
is gonna be like a boxing match, and I think
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the Yankees are gonna wear out there pitching, and I
think the Yankees, I I think, you know, I think
Verlanda was really taxed last night. It's very unusual that
they'd go get him and not finish the inning, but
he was truly out of gas. And you don't say
that very awful. Yeah, So I think that the Yankees
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ag going to I think, even going into the tent
the eleventh inning, I think the Yankees are going to
wear them down and then once it becomes a battle
of attrition, which is similar to what happened in the
Dodger Houston series when Houston want it, It's it's like
everybody was just gone. I mean there was no one
who could get anybody out by the end of that series,
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if you remember correctly. I mean they just I think
the Yankees are going to do that to Euston. I
sure as I hope so. He's Dr Mitchell rosalind I
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