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June 24, 2019 55 mins

Dr. Mitchell Roslin and Gregg Sussman chat about their biggest takeaways from the NBA Draft, take a look at where the biggest free agents in the NBA could be headed and peek at the latest Over/Unders as we approach NFL Training Camps!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. What is
all everyone? Welcome to another edition of dot Jack. That
is Dr Mitchell rosalind I am Greg Socman. Just days

(00:22):
after the NBA Draft. We are here to break down
everything that happened and everything that's to come. Doc, how
is it hanging? Everything is good? Everything is good. The
weather finally turned and in a beautiful weekend. And um,
after nothing but rain in the Northeast for the last
week or so, it feels like a month worth of rain. Obviously,

(00:44):
the weekend was beautiful. It's gorgeous out tonight and should
be good for the rest of the week. And it
was a beautiful end of the week. Four. Uh the
NBA Draft, which was also in town in Brooklyn at
Barkley Center, and we saw all on Thursday night. Zia
Williamson go as expected with the number one pick. R J.

(01:04):
Barrett go to the Knicks at number three as we expected.
Not too many surprises throughout the draft. What do you think,
you know, I thought it was really really clear in
my mind. I thought that there were three players in
the draft. I think that Darius Golland might have been
there had he not been hurt in Vanderbilt. I think

(01:25):
that he you know, he is um the mini school
that I saw of him. I I told you I
thought he was really really good player. But the fall off,
you know, if you watch the one of the things
this year's is we all saw more a CC basketball

(01:45):
anything else. And I think that just goes to the
marketability of one Zion Williamson. Um. He became must see TV,
basically crossed over spectrum and as it were result, we
had a chance to really look at a lot of
Duke basketball, and I can tell you what I saw.

(02:08):
I think that r J. Barrett really really has a shot.
It's hard because you know, it's hard to think back
as to what Kobe Bryant was when he was that age,
you know, but remember that he got traded to Los
Angeles and Charlotte and seeing how these players develop, it's

(02:31):
a little bit tough. But he has an alpha dog
mentality and I think when you take a step back
at a hell of a freshman year at Duke. Along
the same lines, there were times when I would watch
Cam Reddish and say, Wow, look how beautifully his form
is on the jump shot. Look at him jump out

(02:51):
and be able to on the on the pick and roll,
jump out and stay with a point guard and really
move his feet. He's got tremendous athleticism. And then I'd
watch the game and I wouldn't notice him for thirty
two minutes. You know. So I think that he lacks instincts,
and I don't think the word is called instincts. I
don't think instincts get taught. You know, I'd watched Vir Jr.

(03:15):
And DeAndre Hunter and maybe I'm asking too much, but
DeAndre Hunter is a nice player. He is going to
be in the n B A or ten to fifteen.
Even saying this for weeks months, okay, but look, um,
Tony Bennett's a good coach. We watched Virginia play how

(03:40):
many close games and the ball was always in guy
in Jerome's hands. What does that tell you about DeAndre
DeAndre Hunter? And I know he hit the big three
point shot, So to me, it seems strange think in
the fourth player in the draft that the safest pick
is a player that is god every position, offers a

(04:06):
lot of value, but can't create his own shot. Um,
that just shows you the fall off between are the
third and fourth pick in this draft. In in in
one sentence like, let's talk about probability and bets. I mean,
if you're gonna bet who's gonna be Rookie of the year, Okay,

(04:28):
I mean, and obviously free agency goes into it. But
but right now, I would say it really is going
to be a close call between Zion Williamson and R. J. Barrett.
I think Barrett's going to have the statistics, and but
if the Pelicans have a winning record, then the efficiency
of Zion Williamson is going to be, you know, get

(04:51):
tremendous amount of value. Why don't you include John Morant
in that conversation? Um, I think he possibly could be there,
But I think that you know, the way Memphis is
going to play, I think John Moran is gonna be
a highlights film. I think the Knicks have nobody better
to really shoot the ball and score the ball. So

(05:12):
you know, I always make the point that on a
bad team, they still score a hundred and five points
a game in the today's NBA, So that means your
top score is gonna average twenty two points points a game.
I mean, I think Moran is going to be more
of a pass point guard. So when New Yorker, when
he's scoring twenty two to twenty five points a game.
I think he's gonna get tremendous amount of press. The
other thing about r J. Barrettis I think he'll get

(05:33):
to the now the question will be will he hit
the foul shots? And that's really what will determine his
rookie year. Um. But if I had to list the probability,
you know, I would say that would be the race.
I can't. Let let's say, if you backed off all
three of those players, is there anyone that you'd pick?
Who who? Who's your diamond in the rough in the

(05:55):
first round? After that you have to um. So So
for me, a guy that I really like coming in
was Marrie Hachimura from Gonzaga. I thought he had a
nice landing spot with Washington. Do you think he can
score enough to ever get consideration? That's what we're gonna
have to find out. I think he can. I think
he can well be in year one. I don't know.

(06:19):
I don't think he can score enough to get attention. Okay,
down there, I mean Darius Garland count He counts. But
the problem with Darius Garland is are they going to
play him enough minutes with Colin Sexton. You know, I
would think he has rather than five overall. I think
the answer to that is yes. So I mean I
think that he could put up numbers. Um, I think

(06:42):
there any odds out for Rookie of the Year. I'm
sure I can find that hold on nb A Rookie
of the Year. But Papa, all right, here we go,
Here we go updated. This doesn't seem updated long. Give
me a moment, please, alright, So four days ago it works,

(07:06):
Here we go. Zion is minus four fifty, okay. John
Morant's plus four fifty. RG. Barrett also plus four fifty.
Oh you know what this is? It This is updated
before the NBA draft. But that that one truly affected
that much? Okay? You want me to keep going with
us Garlands at plus a thousand, huge drop off after

(07:29):
Barrett and Morant, DeAndre Hunter plus twelve hundred, Culver's at
plus fifteen Reddiship plus twenty five hundred Kobe White plus
three thousand Jacks and Hayes plus three thousand Ruyakima, uh
thirty five hundred, scudmoyat PJ. Washington four thousand. Okay, you know, oh,
I mean, you know, so if you and and and

(07:50):
what do you think the overrunder for wins for the Pelicans?
What do you think is a good year? What do
you think is a bad You get sam if I
am that team or unders? Okay, okay, two days ago
the Action Network, here we go, all the wind totals
right here? Pelicans? What you're looking for? What do you

(08:13):
what do you think? What do I think the Pelicans
are gonna be? I think it's in an eighty two
game season. I would say forty four. They're over under
thirty one and a half. Really thirty one and a half, Doc, Wow,
I think that's low, don't you It sounds very little
me because my number before you respond, it was probably
about about Now. What are the Lakers? What do you think?

(08:39):
I think they're going to say the lake is a
fifty four, and I think that's way high. Fifty one
and a half. Fifty one and a half. What do well, However,
it's already it's actually already moved. It's already moved to
fifty four and a half. You're right there. I think
the Lakes are an under the Pelicans. We see they've

(09:00):
moved just for fun. The Pelicans have moved to about
thirty five and a half, still under what we thought
that though the Pelicans above five hundreds considered a good year,
and right now I would list the Knicks at three.
The Knickerbockers are at Wow, they're all over the map.

(09:24):
So Pointspent opened them at thirty seven and a half
DraftKings and fan duel sports books they're now having at
twenty seven, sorry, thirty four and a half on DraftKings,
twenty nine and a half on fandel at Points Bet
which open remember thirty seven and a half, they're now
at twenty eight and a half. The Knicks are all
over the map. Under boys go under right now everywhere,

(09:47):
especially especially you see see with with points where points
met current at thirty four and a half. You know,
and and the question is, you know, look at probability.
The Lakers are Lebron James ingrown tone now away from
basically not having enough, and you know again they have

(10:08):
to surround him with enough players, and they're gonna be
so heavily dependent on two players. My guess is if
they play, it's smart. They don't care about what seed
they are in there. I mean, I think Toronto showed
you that, So I think that you know, if you
if you winning fifty five games, you're spending too much

(10:31):
energy in November and December, you know, to be perfectly,
we've seen that with Golden State spending too much energy
early on. Now they've gotten better at that, I think,
but we've certainly seen it in the past. December January,
Golden State had four roll world players that you can rotate.
You're talking about who's gonna be. We don't know who
the third wheel is gonna be with Los Angeles, and

(10:53):
but they're gonna have a little bit of problems. And
even if they go with a big third wheel, the
depth on that team, you know, what remains to be seen.
Now that you know they'll they'll throw in Patrick Beverley's,
they'll throw in a lot of different things, but remains
to be seen what they can get in underneath the
salary cap. Absolutely absolutely. By the way, Minor Trade just
saw this came across a woes bomb Portland's trading Evan

(11:16):
Turners to Atlanta for Kent Baysmore. Okay, I thought Evan
Turner was like, uh, he was restricted free agre is
what he was? I thought, Turner a contract. Find that
out for you too. Evan Turner. I thought he was
pretty disappointing against the war. He agreed he needed to
step up, made a better year. Overall, Turner signed for

(11:38):
four years, seventy million dollars. He would have been a
free agent next year. Next year, okay, and base most
of solid player. You seem like if I had his
contracts just for fun, right, all right, Baysmore contracts here,
so he also it's very interesting. So he also signed

(12:00):
a four year, seventy million dollar deal. So this upcoming season,
the final season of Turner's contract, he's gonna make about
eighteen point six mill final deal a year over the
deal I should say, now, Ken bays More, it's the
site's not working, but I think I saw a little

(12:21):
bit more for him. It's not working, knock, but I
think he's going to make. Yeah, he's made a little
b more. He made nineteen point two. Nineteen point two
versus what I say for Turner versus eighteen point six.
They both in the final year, both in the final
year their deals. Yes, it's really it's really a trade
as to who you like more. That's right, sat change
in scenes. Although he had a it's very interesting. He

(12:44):
has a player option in his contract for night for
that nineteen points who I was mentioning that we thought
he was going to opt out of. I wonder, so
maybe it's more than that. Maybe maybe the trading sorry
he opted in, he opted in, excusement it in, okay,
but maybe they were they were trying to free up
cap space to to to do something because Portland's and

(13:06):
interesting team. You know, they certainly have the backcourt, and
they certainly was showing that they have forwards were basically
journeyman players. They need a forward two play two, basically
be able to make a play and create their own basket.

(13:27):
They don't have that at all, and and that's that's
what their real need gap is. You know, I think
that Denver's young players are more explosive coming off the bench.
And I think that what's Denver's over run, Denver's over
under they opened what do you think? What do you
think they opened up? Well, everyone's everywhere, everyone's weaker. They

(13:55):
won fifty games last year and everyone's weaker in the West,
so so there's thing would say fifty two, But my
guess is that Denver and they don't get respect, so
it would be something like forty seven. Fifty and a
half fifty and a half because you know, honestly, you
you other than the fact that none of us can

(14:16):
name their entire roster because we very rarely see the
Nugget Games, except you have to honestly say, they have
to be the favorites in the West. Coming in Golden
State is significantly weaker. I still think Golden Steak got
probably too much respect and that people said it lost

(14:39):
their whole team. The Warriors are at you know, which
I think is high. I think the lake is a
ridiculously high. When you when you, when you when you,
when you think about it, Hortland, I guess it would
be exactly at the same number they were last year.
What did they win last year? Forty SI games? Oh?

(15:02):
I have it? Hell yeah, what did they win last year?
For reason, these slaves are all going very slow. Uh.
The Blazers last year won fifty three games, so they're
gonna be at fifty forty five and a half. Wow,
they really lost a lot of respect. Yes, sir, turn man,

(15:23):
I guess I guess that you know that that's like
the bloom off the rose. Yeah, backcourt. I I don't
I don't see why they should just because they got
swept by the Worriors. I don't see why you would
downgrade them in a week er conference. And then in
the East, I mean, you can't even figure out the
East Milwaukee should be. I but you know, I think

(15:45):
that if your Milwaukee, you know so so it's interesting
you have to think about what these teams do. If
your Milwaukee, I guess you exercise your bird rights on
Chris Middleton. You think you think even the Max you do, okay,
I I mean I think he's gonna get it out here,
and you know it's Milwaukee. Who are you going to
replace him with? And you have a narrow window. I

(16:07):
don't think you really really have it. Okay. You know
they don't have bird rights because they signed Brook Lopez
as a one year free agent, so they don't have
rights to him. I think that they'd like to bring
him back. But as you're stretch, you you surround Jiannice
with scaring Okay, who are you going to bring in

(16:28):
besides Chris Middleton? I think that if you're Milwaukee, you
kind of try to bring everybody back and say everybody
got weaker, Well let's do it. Let's run this thing
one more time. Makes sense that that's that's the Milwaukee strategy.
It makes sense. Okay, Boston is kind of much much weaker.

(16:52):
Forget about losing Kyrie. I think losing Al Horford is
a big thing. You know, they're gonna bring back Rosier
at this point. If they're smart, I think they basically
say good riddance to Kyrie. I don't even think I would,
you know, make the offer. I think that you know,
you'd have to believe it's addition, right, subtraction. You hope

(17:14):
that Tatum steps up, and then what else do you do?
Do you go out with your extra money and get
a big Do you use draft capital to try to
get somebody? People link them to the player from um Orlando, Um,

(17:35):
well we'll Nivik Um. Do you like him? I think
Buchevik is a good player. I thought he had the
best season by four of his career last year. He
turned himself into an all around player, not just to score,
not just somebody that could put up stats. A bad
team of Boudjevik was very very good last year. Now
for the Celtics in general, I would rather bring back

(17:56):
out Horford if possible, but that's not happening. Is it not?
Are we sure about that? As I've seen everyone say
he's gone? We are we sure? Well? He opted out right,
and he's old, and Danny Ainge doesn't want to maxim
he's gone, you know, so so now you know, now

(18:17):
he would be a great fit, you know, on the Lakers,
you know, to allow them, but that would cost them
a ton of salary and and and and things like that. Um,
where else does he look to go? He's got to
go to a winner, you would tend to thank you
you you tend to think he has to go to
a team that's ready to win. Um, I'm not sure

(18:40):
exactly where that is right now. Um, he doesn't work
in Philadelphia, you know, I I can't. I don't think
Milwaukee has the salary cap room to to do this.
And no one science is a free agent in Milwaukee.
That just doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. So I
don't know where he he winds up. You know, while

(19:02):
we're on the you know, the NBA free you know,
free agent Tory. One of the things I wanted to
ask you is, you know, the Kevin Durant thing is
is really fascinating. The orf air we were talking about
and he said that the way to maximize his money
was to opt in and then force the Warriors in
five year max after it. And I think that he
has certain strong feelings about the Warrior organization. Um, but

(19:27):
my question is something different. You think Kevin Durant as
a leader and an alpha dog or do you think
he's a great, great basketball player. Do you think that
he you know, with this smoke their substance, like why
is he even? Why isn't he dismayed these conversations with
Kyrie irving that we're going someplace together, Like what why

(19:51):
doesn't he have? He seems like he's, you know, for
all of his wonderful talent, and I pointed this out
last week, seems to be very insecure, like you know
Lebron James and people say, Okay, it's all about town
on a basketball call. I think it's about something more.
It's about emotional toughness, you know. I think that for example,

(20:14):
Michael Jordan's was a great leader. I think Larry Bird
was a great leader. I think Magic Johnson was a
great leader. I think Lebron James was a great leader.
Maybe even and not this is that doesn't mean they
were popular. Okay, certain, We're certain weren't. I'm not sure

(20:35):
that Durant was. I mean, he seemed to have very
thin skin. And okay, see he put himself in the
position in in in Golden State. Do you think that.
I mean, obviously, if you come to New York and
it's great, well, you know, you can watch down Broadway.

(20:56):
But do you think he could be Mark Messier or
do you think he's too thin skin to be that?
You know, like, I don't think RJ. Barrett is. I
think RJ Barrett you know, there are people who come
from privilege, and you know, because of that, they know
what it takes. I think that's r J. Barrett is
an alpha dog. Okay, And I think he was frustrated,

(21:16):
you know, with the whole Zion thing. I think that's
his innate thing. I think his makeup suits New York
Mr Rance, the fact that he's even entertaining, you know,
I don't think Kyrie Irvings does. So let me break

(21:36):
down your question a couple of parts here. Kevin Durant
is a great basketball player. Agreed, That is the first statement.
He is a great basketball player, great basketball player, football, okay,
arguably Okay, clearly the second best player of our time.
He's not Lebron James, okay, but he's a great basketball player,

(22:01):
truly legendary, NBA Top twenty all time playoffs. So in
regards to the leader question, I think that since he's
entered the league, specifically after he left Oklahoma City, he
has been seen as or Robin rather than a batman.

(22:22):
Even when he won two finals MVPs in Golden State,
it was always and will always be the Splash Brothers team.
It's Steph Curry, It's Clay Thompson. As great of a
basketball players, Kevin Durant is, he will never ever be
seen as the leader of the Golden State Warriors, which
we said at the very beginning of the year before

(22:44):
any of the room is take take out, before Walt
Frasier pointed that out on national television. Everybody knows it
right right, So sure, if he goes to New York,
if he on day one July one, June thirty six
pm goes and announces on Twitter or wherever on Instagram,
I'm signing with the Knicks. No announcement from Kyrie, no

(23:11):
bringing my boys with me. If he goes by, goes
by himself to the barren organization that the Knicks are.
I know they have Knox, Robinson, Org Barrett, but for
the most part, it's amazing. Knox has gotten better this week.
I don't know what he did to get better, but
he's at least a fit. I mean, you know, come on,
he's no better than I always love that, like time

(23:32):
and stuff like that. You know, it's it's it's wonderful.
At the end of last year, it was like he
was the least efficient player in the NBA and now
he's nineteen point six years old and had a full
season behind him. Okay, that was true a month ago,
so no doubt. I'm just pointing that out. So if
he does that next week, I believe. Yeah, he wants

(23:57):
to be a leader, he wants to put a team
on his back, wants to But is he capable you know,
people who you know? I think yes, if he makes
that move, yes he is capable of doing it all.
I think. If you keep on saying he has burner phones,
I understand. Okay, you know, I'm just saying that because

(24:20):
he's a better basketball player. Okay, because he's he's you know,
he hasn't said that the Earth is flat, Okay, because
he doesn't say the ridiculous things that Kyrie Irving does.
He's more likable and because he goes on Bill Simmons
podcast and seems like a regular guy. We like Kevin Durant.

(24:44):
We liked his commercials, we liked when he gave we
we liked when he We like Kevin Durant. Okay, but
tell me from the outskirts how he's different emotionally and
wired differently than Kyrie Irving. He's wired differently because Kyrie

(25:05):
was playing next to the best player in the world
and demanded to be traded to be the alpha male
somewhere and screwed up and top for sure, and he
was never appreciated, he didn't get his due and looked
absolutely ridiculous in the Milwaukee series like it like it
was like he had no clue, absolutely agree with that,

(25:28):
and he did so he did all of that. Kevin
Durant didn't force his way out of Oklahoma. He showed
Oklahoma City. He chose to go play with two of
the best players in the world. That's what's different. Why
you know, why not come back to Okay see and Okay,
But but I think you can look no further than
who we're saying is the best player in the world,

(25:49):
Lebron James. He did the same thing. He left Cleveland,
where he's the Alpha male. He went to Miami to
go play with his best friends, two of at the
time the best players in the world. But he recruited them,
and he also Wayne Wade recruiting that. Yeah, he also
hated He also, well, they brought Bosh. Bosh came with
him too. Yes, he also hated Dan Gilbert. Sure fine,
but he could have he could have get the New

(26:10):
York and in the Alpha Male. He could have went
somewhere else. But he went to go play with two
of the best players. He padded. He padded the death.
And that's what the rent did. Padded the deck. He
padded the dead. Absolutely. Now, if Durant leaves Bolton State
and goes to wherever, but brings Kyrie with them to
be the punching bag, if you will, that says something
to your point to answer your initial question, and then

(26:33):
you know the first headlines that he's not the same
player he used to be. And like I said, if
the story ends with the ticket tape down parade, okay,
it's a great story. But if it's not that, does
he have the intestinal fortitude to withstand? You don't know

(26:53):
if you get the Miami experiment, was it seemed like
it was not working at the very beginning. The first
everybody was saying said, you know, it's not working. And
you know their regular season was a disappointment. If you
go back to that first season with the way Lebron
James and then they played better and they made to

(27:14):
the finals. And I believe the first year was the
year they lost to Dallas if I remember they lost
to Dallas. Now, I only believe in all honesty that
there's narrative fits with Kyrie, Like if Durant goes anywhere else,
just use the Knicks, continue us the Knicks as an example,
and Kema goes with him, or Tobias Harris goes with him.

(27:38):
Durant is the guy, he's the leader, he's front facing
no matter what. Well, if it's Kyrie, he's not because
Kyrie is that personality. All these other guys they're not
in the commercials, are not in the movies, not Uncle Drew,
not Uncle Drew exactly, they don't have So you take
a step back. So what he is? What I would
say is that and this time, every team can offer

(28:03):
you the same amount of money. So if you're gonna
leave money on the table, ay, it's where you want
to live, okay and be it's the other opportunities. And
I think that New York is a special opportunity for
the first person that gets it done. Now, once it

(28:24):
gets done, I don't think it's as big of opportunity.
But right now, I think there's a huge, huge potential
opportunity in New York that people are understating that you
would make up that money. Which is why, you know,
I think that the Nicks have the craziest wild card
you know of Kawuai Leonard. You know, because Kai Kawhi Leonard,

(28:46):
we we all assume that he's anti marketing. We all
assume that he just you know, we we create these
roles in our mind. Wait, he just wants to play
basketball and be left alone. That may or may not
be true. And after his two championships in different cities,

(29:07):
that may create a marketing opportunity to be the anti
you know kind of person, like the hard working lunch
bucket guy who comes to you. It could create a
different type of marketing opportunity for people who are creative.
But to me, it's only I wanted to There's only
to you know, decisions, A you want you stay where
you are and you make the NBA money, or be

(29:28):
you go to a place where you have an incredible
marketing opportunity that's perceived. Okay, those are the only two
decisions that I think you can make. So why the
conversation then that all the recent chatter that the new
favorite in Vegas is not the Knicks as it happened
for months, it's the Nets. It minus. I just don't

(29:49):
see that, and I can't imagine unless this is kind
of like um an old New Yorker that believes the
center of the wheels focus is around Manhattan and Madison
Square Garden and everybody comes into the city and Williamsburg
is the new hip place, and that the Brooklyn has
become the center of the hipster universe, and they're going

(30:10):
to market that to the extreme. I think that's wild thinking.
I can't, I I can't. I can't imagine the marketing
opportunities are going to be the same for the Nets
as they offer the Knicks. I really don't, but maybe
it's maybe I'm showing my age. Maybe you know, I

(30:31):
try not to, but maybe it's it's it's that you know,
I grew up in Brooklyn. Okay, Brooklyn is a spoke
on the Manhattan Wheel. I know, I know the rents
have gone up. I know in the trendy restaurants is
trendy clubs or Williamsburg. I understand that, jay Z. But
you know when you look at celebrity row and you

(30:52):
look week okay, and not only that, you want to
put a team on television, even with Durant and I ree,
you know, a good Nick team is going to be
on national television way more than than than anything else.
I mean, I just think the Knicks are a bigger story.

(31:12):
Cant can Dolan be that much of a litmus test
and so so bad? I mean, I don't know, I
don't I don't see that. I can't imagine that. You know,
just like Anthony Davis went to the Lakers, I can't
imagine if you're going to leave the money on the table,
you're gonna go to an outer borrow. I just can't imagine.

(31:36):
I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised. You're leading now. If
you ask me, if you ask me what the favorite is. Okay,
when you sit down and you discuss it, you know,
here's here's the thing, Kevin, You're gonna be thirty two
years old. Let's look at this as the accumulation of wealth. Now,
I think part of the decision is where does your
wealth come from inside or outside basketball? And how important

(32:00):
does your wealth inside of basketball? But your wealth inside
of basketball? To maximize that wealth would be to take
the thirty one million dollars okay, and then take the
five year, which next year, because the salary cap goes
up approximately ten years, ten million a year would would
be approximately two d and twenty million, and therefore, over

(32:20):
the next six years, his lifetime revenue in basketball would
be two hundred and fifty million dollars okay, As opposed
to if you come to New York, Okay, you're getting
four years at roughly one sixty I guess is the number.
And then you have to find that fifth and sixth
year when you're already thirty six years old, which most

(32:43):
likely is going to be closer to the NBA minimum.
So you're talking about a sixty million dollar difference and
leaving Golden steak. That that's number one, So you're gonna
make that sixty million dollars difference off the court, more
so in New York San Francis go. Probably not by
the way, because he's got his off the quock going.
But that's the decision you have to make. In terms,

(33:05):
we're we've all been very good about these guys leaving
ten twenty million dollars on the table. I don't think
it's that easy to do. This is Durant's last contract.
Yes he can ail aid into one plus five, but
that's the decision you're talking about. He's leaving sixty million
dollars on the table. Perhaps if he comes to the
next or the nets. Absolutely absolutely. As for me, Golden

(33:30):
State remains the favorite. There's so much there's just so
much money on the line when you're not playing this year, unless,
of course, the Golden State, you know, and they don't
seem to want to do that. I mean, are they
going to really max out these players? As I spoke
about last week, you know, they run the real risk
of of not not not understanding Bill Belichick's first rule
is pay him for what they're gonna do, not pay

(33:51):
him for what they did. We've we've said that a lot,
um a lot, a lot, a lot, especially when it
comes to how Belichick would handle it in New England,
um specifically. But I'll take R. J. Barrett plus the
four fifty because I think I think that, you know,
I think the way it plays out is the Knicks
and not going to have a top score here. Therefore,

(34:12):
I think that he has a great chance to average
twenty two or twenty three points and get uh minutes,
you know in the game. And I think that what
what I like about Barrett's game is that he takes
the ball to the rim and gets foiled. He is
very heavy left handed, but so it's James Harden. Yeah, absolutely.
R J. Barrett is going to have to learn how
to go right, I think. But that left hand right

(34:33):
now is seemingly dominant. They have to stop, you know,
don't forget the n b A. You know, here's the
thing about Barrett. Barrett scored twenty two points a game
in the a C C in college with a team
that couldn't shoot the ball and was completely packed in Okay.
You know, the Knicks will be able to put some
shooters on the court and Damon Dotson and open up

(34:56):
the court. The NBA game fits Barrett better than the
college game did. And you can make the same argument
for Zion Williamson. Now, if you like this is where
what I was saying. If you like the Pelicans, you know,
if you like the Pelicans to go over, then take Zion.
By the way, Andre Iguodala was on CNBC earlier today

(35:20):
and Iguadallah told CNBC he thinks claim Durrant returned to
Golden State and added that nobody's going to the next Sorry, yeah,
I mean I think that that's you know, again, the
money doesn't work because here's this the salary, and this
is the problem with the Lakers theory. I mean, the
Lakers have always you know, they are starting with Threem

(35:43):
abdul Jabbar. Then they got lucky in the draft with
Magic Johnson. You know, they made a great trade for
for Kobe Bryant, but they always had players Magic Johnson,
who wanted to come, Anthony davis Um, you know, Kareem,
you know, Shaquille all O'Neil. So they're banking on the
fact that draft picks aren't important because they can always recruit.

(36:05):
I think that you know, they're gonna become realized, like
the Yankees. Like the Yankees, they're playing they're playing Aaron Judge,
They're playing their farm system. Because what happens to the
better players is now they're being locked up earlier. And
you know this time, people like a talking thing, think
it's like monopoly money. But they're realizing how much money
they're leaving on the table by in terms of guarantees.

(36:26):
And I think it's gonna become harder. Yeah, and I
know that's strange to say after they landed Anthony Davis,
but again, you have to be forward thinking. And I
think they'll regret the assets, like because you know, it
seemed like Griffin said throw when this throwing this and
they said okay, because even though it means something to
the Pelicans, I mean meant nothing to them because they said,
you know what, you know, the fourth player in the pick,

(36:48):
DeAndre Hunter, is not gonna help us for the next
few years. We need players now and our draft pick
in one. Yes, that and that may be significant, but
we're gonna be a good team. It's gonna be the
twentie we will free salary, cap, will sign you know,
Zion Williamson when he's done with his five years. You know,
we'll get the next player. I think that's gonna be

(37:09):
harder to do the way things are structured right now.
I want to go through some of the NFL over
and let's do it so, you know. I I thought
they you can put put them up on ESPN. But
they had each team's you know, kind of betting over under.
I remember some of them. For example, Josh Allen, quarterback
Buffalo Bills over under fifty completion ratey oh my god,

(37:37):
my first thought was over me too. I mean, fifty
two is not that they're just gonna give the run
to throw the ball to the back a few times.
Come on, you know, I I think fifty two is low. Okay.
In the same division, chosen Rosen okay, yeah, Jose and
Rose in Miami twelve point five thoughts over under under

(38:00):
I think so too. I feel good about that one too,
Levian Bell, same division. I don't remember what the New
England one was ten one thousand thirty five rushing yards.
I thought over I have it. I see it at
one thousand thirty two and a half. Okay, all right, yeah,
I like the over. I like the over two. I
think like running the football is kind of like riding

(38:21):
a bicycle as long as your legs are fine. You know,
we all talked about loads, so a year off and
and and stuff like that. I think it's it's it's
over on that. Um, what's the new England one? Do
you have it? Let me see you I can find
I don't have an I don't have a New England
one here, I do have some other one ready. Jujuice

(38:42):
Schuster versus Antonio Brown regular season touchdowns? Who has more? Um,
Antonio Brown? Antonio Brown is a favorite here minus two
plus one. You know, again, we get into Juju Suster
was the second area player, and I I like Juju
Suster an awful lot. I think he's a tremendous player.

(39:05):
He played well when Tonio Brown was on the field,
But again, when Antonio Brown has been on the field,
that certainly opens up a lot of options. When you know,
it was always a big difference when you are the man.
We're all assuming that the Steel is going to have
addition by subtraction, and you know, again, I think that's
a fascinating division. I I've said that Cleveland's won the

(39:26):
off season, but no team that ever won the Washington
Redskins and had parentially won the off season and never
won the regular seas Udall Beckham Jr. Over under eleven
hundred and a half yards. Um, I'm going to make
a very surprising pick and say under because I think
there's a high injury like it was definitely high dura risk.

(39:48):
As a doctor, what can you tell us about all
of Beckham's injuries? Well, I think the concern that you
have with Beckham's lower ankles strain is that in order,
it's kind of the same conversation that we had with
Kevin Durant, and I believe both of them had surgery
by Mardy O'Malley. That's that's correct, that special surgery. And

(40:09):
I think he's a phenomenal surgeon. And and and and
this is by no means a critique, but essentially, if
you pull them to to loose, it loses the explosion.
If you pull them too tight, they have a high
re injury risk. So I think that, Um, I think
that that was a really concerning injury. I was actually

(40:35):
very surprised that Giants gave him the contract. I think
that the Giants made some commitments and got themselves locked in,
and then he came back and showed some of the
same explosiveness, but I'd be concerned also the way he plays,
I also don't. I also think that he doesn't like
to play hurt, and I think that's a big thing

(40:56):
that goes into it. Um. I think that you know,
he he you know, when he's not a hundred percent,
he doesn't want to be out there. And that's that's
the huge advantage that Antonio Brown has on him. Antonio
Brown has taken an absolute beating and and and shows

(41:17):
up every week to play, I guess, except for the
last game of the season, but that was for other reasons.
It wasn't really injury. You know, the durability of Odell Beckham.
So I I mean, honestly, I would keep betting underun
Odell until he has the injury because I think that's
that's highly likely. Okay, um huh, let me touchdowns. I

(41:38):
think Jason wentten scores this year. I'm gonna go with seven.
That's plus one, eight, plus one, eighties five or more.
I'm gonna go with seven. Um. What else did I
find for you here? Doc? I thought that Daniel Jones
five and a half start. I don't see that here?

(41:58):
And see that here Daniel Jones five and a half starts, starts,
Dwayne Haskins eight and a half starts. What do you think?
So I like the Dwayne Haskins over and a half.
We talked about that before the show. I like that
a lot. Okay, all right, thee I think they're linked,
and you don't think they're like I don't. I don't.
I think the Giants are not gonna look at what

(42:19):
Washington is doing, and I don't think the Giants. Well, okay,
so let me give you a scenario. Okay, Wayne Haskins
throws the three hundred and seventy yards and the Skins
are three in one. Okay, the Giants, I'm not even
making this extreme one in three and Manning throws three

(42:43):
interceptions in week four. Okay, you don't think that linked.
You don't think everybody in the world is writing that
the Giants passed on Haskins, who is right in front
of their face, who was rated by everybody in the
world that was higher except for the New York Giants.

(43:04):
And Daniel Jones can't get on the field and Eli
Manning is there. So now there are several scenarios there.
Number one, the Giants get off to a good start. Okay,
Giants are winning. No one says a word. Do you
think that's happening? You really think that's happening. Like I said,
the Giants haven't won a game in September. I always

(43:24):
try to go early because at least I get to
see one meaningful game for the year. Giants have not
played a meaningful football game in cold weather in two years.
And I don't think there's anybody who's objective who thinks
that's changing. There is this blind loyalty to Eli Manning

(43:46):
and none of it matters. It makes me feel like
nothing matters. But you see, the voices will get too loud,
but it's not even the Eli Manning thing at this
point in time. It's not the blind moleyalty to Eli Manning.
It's that you have told us that Daniel Jones is
a is a player. You know. You have stated that

(44:11):
we did not see a short thing quarter quarterback in
the Year of the quarterback. Okay. You have told us
that you are a professional scout and you have to
trust your opinion. You have told us that Daniel Jones
was somebody that you were in love with. Okay, you
have told us that the reason you were in love
with Daniel Jones was because he was well coached, that

(44:33):
he processed things like a quarterback. And hey, and you
have basically told us that the reason you were in
in love with Dwayne Haskins is that he wasn't capable
of running a pro offense, but had athletic talent and
was surrounded by great players. So now you're going to
tell me that if Dwayne Haskins gets on the field

(44:54):
for Washington, okay, and Daniel Jones is not on the
field for the Giants, and the Giants are not playing well,
and you don't put Daniel Jones on the field, you're
gonna tell me that's not going to create a lot
of questions for your brilliant football act. It will, it
will absolutely well, you see see, I don't think it's
an e life story if this now, if Dan, if

(45:17):
Dwayne Haskins falls flat on his face, no issue. But
you know that everybody, you know, it's like before they
scout him. You know, the likelihood is before the league
catches up is you're gonna make a few big plays,
and you know that's going to create a lot of pressure.
So I think if Haskins goes over Jones has to
go over if the Giants are a bad team, and

(45:37):
I think that a what do you think the percentage
of the Giants being a bad team? Yeah? Okay, So
and what do you think the odds are that Haskins
is starting over case keenum, I would say that's probably

(46:00):
so that means that Daniel Jones has to get on
the field. I think they were all linked. And this
is the way you win in gambling is you take
all three of those things together exactly, you know, because
I think they are related actions. That's that. That's kind
of what I think. Go on, you do you agree
or you disagreed? Now? I love it. Listen, you have

(46:21):
you broken it down, man, you you've broken it down.
I like I said, I think there's this loyalty zlog
Kyler Murray yards passing, passing that's over. I agree, that's
over hundreds nothing in today's NFL. Well, you know what's
surprising is Austin Wentz. Yeah, you know. And this goes

(46:44):
into my Odell Beckham that I would take. I would
take the risk on and and I'm saying this right
now once what's good take the low on Odell Beckham.
If you lose it this year, double it next year
like roulette, okay, because he's going to get hurt. Um
Coston Wentz number was very, very low. I think it
was thirty three hundred passing yards. Now that tells me

(47:06):
that they think he's a high injury risk because Costing
Wentz could get thirty. You know, you know, if he's playing,
he's averaging three hundred yards. He gets that in week twelve,
So you know, that tells me injured injury. What did
he do last year within an injury? Last how many?
How many yards? Yeah, he was injured last year and

(47:29):
put up one thousand, fifty two yards seventy seven catches
one Costing Wentz, I'm sorry, I think he's doing Odell.
Do you want went you want Wentz? I want Wentz
passing yards three thousand, seventy four thousand septs. So that
he was under that number and Odell Beckham was under
his crumb. And now the argument he has a better quarterback.

(47:53):
You know again, I think that, like I said, Cleveland
has been the the story of the off season mains
to be seen. Whether they're going to be the same season,
sorry the season, and I think that this is really
you know, a good segue act you're talking to sports grad.
I think that you know, the straight point spreads and
all that stuff is hard, but if you correlate what

(48:13):
things are going to happen, that can be what your
real advantages when you analyze these things, because certain things,
you know, if they if you feel strong about one thing,
then other things will correlate with that and and and
go make them more probable to defy the odds. I
wanted to before we wrapped up today, Doc, I really

(48:36):
wanted to ask your opinion about this story when it
came to the Tampa Bay Rays that they were they
were talking about it. It's on a long article on
Tampa Bay dot Com today breaking it down on the
season in Montreal is splitting this season between Tampa and Montreal,
essentially playing April to like mid June in Tampa and

(49:00):
then mid June through the end of the season in Montreal.
I think it's all negotiations. I mean, I think it's
you know, first of all, that franchise is not viable
in St. Petersburg, but they don't can't seem to get
out of the least until I think that they you
believe that the franchise would be viable in a ballpark.

(49:22):
You know, I went to the Super Bowl that was
in Tampa, which was a great super Bowl, was the
Arizona Cardinals versus the Steelers. One of the best super
Bowls ever played. Definitely, Okay, where where Santonio homes Um
quote court caught the ball and you know before the
halftime what's his name, Joey Harrison ran the ball down

(49:45):
for a touchdown and Larry fit That was. That was
you know what's a great super Bowl because James Harrison,
James Harrison and now Joey James Harrison ran the ball
back for a touchdown and Larry Fitzgerald was unbelievable. You
know what's the best part about that Super Bowl was
a super Bowl where every great player played great great
That was the super Bowl Lisberger played really because his

(50:08):
first Super Bowl against Seattle was one of the worst
games that was ever ever play. So anyway, that's a
beautiful ballpark in down downtown Tampa, and that's where they
have to be, in a small ballpark. And I don't
know the politics about getting that done. And then the
other option is to return to a different market. They

(50:32):
can't stay where they are and they can't break the
least till I think it's all negotiating posture. I don't
think you can really have, you know, a team in
two cities and and and sells season tickets. What what's
the television contract gonna be? Like what happens in the postseason?

(50:53):
You know, again, I think that the split of your
revenues would be so heavily Montreal because again, don't forget,
in Montreal you're like the new attractive girl in town.
In Tampa, you're a goddamn Benel dit An. So it's
it's like what you're saying, if you could even contractually
do something like that, is I am my eighty two

(51:17):
My eight one games are worth so little that I'd
rather be willing to pay forty for profit. I'd rather
be able to, you know, sell my radio rights to
the Montreal organization because I'm like a dead man walking
in the St. Pete market. Then not in Tampa that
that that's what they're doing. So so my guess is

(51:39):
this is all negotiating leverage, saying that the first second
we can get out of this lease, we are gone, okay,
and let's work out something to keep us here, which
would be a forty thousand Seak Ballpark in downtown Tampa.
And so what I was reading about was they want
to be able to build a twenty seven thousand ish

(52:02):
stadium in Tampa, in downtown Tampa. Not put the roof
on it because it won't be playing the heat of
the summer. Maybe put some spring training games there. And
to me, it's all negotiating Floyd one thousand percent negotiating, Yeah,
because nobody but they can't stay the way way way
way they are right now and and you know and

(52:24):
do that, and you know, you know. The the interesting
thing is, is the Montreal the best market. I'm surprised
that people aren't looking at like the Charlotte market, you know,
the North Carolina Mall st Nashville, Portland's Vegas. Nashville is
a great market. Nashville would be a great Nashville. Have

(52:45):
you been to Nashville recently. I've never been Nashville. Nashville
is the new New Orleans. It's it's incredible. I've had
great things. It's incredible. Like I mean, I remember the
first time when I interviewed down at Vanderbolt, I said,
oh my god, this is the South Now it is
the most happening city. You know my you know, I
have close friends down there. It's absolutely fantastic. I would
like to get to Nashville. I'd like to get to

(53:05):
Nasville Junior that we're talking about. It's not going on
our honeymoon until next year, so we want to get away,
like a couple of days after the wedding, going to
a city like a Nashville, sword somewhere that's not expensive
for us to get to great. I mean you just
go this music in every place downtown, the stadium is
right there. It is absolutely a one of the more

(53:27):
fun cities in the United States. It's it's it's a
nice a version of New Orleans right now. Nashville and
I was considering it's more like Savannah, Georgia I thought
could be cool. Is empty, it's nice and romantic. It's nice,
but it's very, very very there's not enough to do
that for more than two days. Well, you need there
for two days, that's perfect. I mean, if you go
to Savannah, you go for one night and then you

(53:48):
go to the islands right next to it, like the
Georgian Islands, or you go to you know, Hilton Heads,
only forty minutes away. From when you're flying on stuff.
But Savannah is is really yeah, yeah, it's it's it's
like there's nothing there. You're better off going to Hilton
Head and doing a beach, you know, than than going there.
You know. The city's like that a fun like that. Obviously,

(54:11):
Miami South Beach is fantastic, but Nashville is in Austin, Texas,
you know, even San Antonio. Those those would be three
choices right off that. And if you go somewhere farther
in the West coast, Vancouver is just incredible. British Columbia.
That's a little far for a cold days. Now, all right,
that's gonna do it for Ross here on Doc John,

(54:32):
that is Dr Mitchell Ross and I am Greg sus
So make sure you check out all of our other
programming on demand. All you gotta doc And do you
have your Daniel Jones Jersey yet or you you're you're
you're not, You're not buying until you see them. I'm
gonna wait, I'm gonna wait. I'm a Hawks j fan
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