NBA Free Agency, Durant And Kyrie Choose BK, Knicks Strike Out

On this On this edition of Doc Jock, Mitchell Roslin and Gregg Sussman break down everything that's happened in the first 24 hours of NBA Free Agency. Brooklyn has taken over NYC, the Knicks have been shut out and Kawhi Leonard still has a major decision to makeedition of Doc Jock, Mitchell Roslin and Gregg Sussman break down everything that's happened in the first 24 hours of NBA Free Agency. Brooklyn has taken over NYC, the Knicks have been shut out and Kawhi Leonard still has a major decision to make.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
What is uh, Welcome inside studio. Welcome to Doc Jock.
That is Dr Mitchell rosalind. I am Gregg Sauceman. We
are just about fifteen minutes away from officially being twenty
four hours into NBA free agency and Doc. The entire
landscape the National Basketball Association has changed. Yep, it's it

(00:33):
certainly has. I think we should have gotten our Nick's
under picks in last week. As as that line is
gonna go down, everybody seems to be very high on
the Philadelphia seventy six years. Um, even with the lawsuit.
Jimmy Butler, what's kind of surprised me at least. Charles
Barkley was um, and you can go no further about

(00:54):
how dead wrong we were. We said that if you're
gonna you know, Frank Sinatra used to saying, I love
New York. Now I love Brooklyn, and I was born
in Brooklyn, and Brooklyn is in New York. You know
it is in New York. And but I really thought
that if somebody was going to relocate, so certain things
you're right about, Like I thought that Durant's body language

(01:14):
of taking off to New York and announcing his surgery
without the inclusion of the Warriors medical staff to me
was a strong announcement that he had broken all ties.
Now you know, you know, they make movies about reconciliations,
but I think that really showed that he was broken
all ties. So I am not surprised that he left.

(01:36):
And then when he opted out, because financially, I you know,
we discussed, you know, financially you should have opted in
and then forced them them into five years, um. If
they would have done that and had six years on
the contract instead of four at high numbers. When he
opted out, I think that was a clear indication that
he was leaving because he you know, he would have
been better off with the thirty one and then the

(01:58):
max deal to do that, um, you know. And I
think there's another message here, which is that in this
salary cap ERAa, even though this is the loosest salary
cap in the world, like there's always around everything, as
you can see Jimmy Butler going to Miami, let's not

(02:18):
jump around. Let's let's but even in the shary cap era,
quality of life and perception means a lot, and you
just have to wonder how much damage, how much played
into it. When Charles Oakley gets moved out of Madison Square, Goden,
and it seems honestly that in New York the Knicks

(02:39):
have to function like a small market team. I don't
agree with that they're acting like a small market team,
to be honest with you. But I'll start with the
piece that got Kevin Durant there. There were rumors forever
that Kyrie wanted to play for the team he grew
up loving. That was the that was the Nets. He
was He's from New Jersey, he was always a Nets fan.
He ultimately, very very early on, it seems the decision

(03:00):
he's going to sign with the Brooklyn Nets. Now there's
the conversation that Durant and Kyrie want to play together.
But you and I sat here and we said two
different things. One, if you're gonna leave Golden State, you
want to be the guy. There's no point of leaving
Golden State if you're not going to be the guy.
Now maybe the Achilles injury changed that, but or process

(03:23):
was just a week or two ago. You're not going
to leave. You're not gonna be the guy. Durant's not
the guy. If you're gonna leave and you're gonna go
to New York. You're gonna go to New York. You're
gonna go to the Garden, Madison Square Garden. Then you're
gonna lift the Knicks have the worst record in the
last nineteen years. You're gonna put the cape on. You're
gonna lift them up, Superman, and you're going to prove

(03:45):
that you could do what Lebron could do. And then
he went to Brooklyn. The Nets, the team that just
three years ago was in the gut or much like
the Knicks, they had no picks, they had no hope.
And the smart the hired Sean Marks, they smartly hired
Kenny Atkinson, and they have built this culture. And you
mentioned the Knicks. I'll bring them in. What the Knicks

(04:07):
have done with their cash base and I want to
get into this is they try to now build a culture.
Everybody's signed for the same amount of time. Everyone's essentially
long term two years. Every everybody's two years, Randall's three
years with a third year option. They can get out
of every single deal. You know, the Knicks. What the
Knicks are doing is the Knicks are you know, there's

(04:27):
several ways. You know, people think that the Warriors were
a mercenary. Bill team. The truth of the matter is
the core of the Warriors with three players that outperformed
their draft status, you know, Clay Thompson, Steph Curry, and
Draymond Green. So especially Draymond Green was the second round

(04:47):
pick who will probably be a Hall of Famer. Okay,
he certainly borderline Hall of famer. Is strong chance that
he will be a Hall of Shame, and Steph and
Clay a virtually guaranteed Hall of Famers. Now, yes, one
was drafted six and I think Clay was in the teens, right,
it was in the teen's ninth to the teams. I
don't think he was not. I thought he was in

(05:08):
the lottery in the lottery play was pick number eleven, eleven,
I thought he was in the teens. Yeah, low teens.
So those relatively high draft picks, but certainly not Hall
of fame. You don't usually get too many Hall of
Fame is at that point in time. But you know,
to be perfectly honest, we haven't had that many Hall
of Fame is in in the you know, in the

(05:30):
very first few picks. So they had three players that
outperformed their draft status. Okay, And that's the other way
you get better. You know that you you know, you know,
if you're the Nicks, you're hoping that Mitchell Robinson is
their Draymond Green. That's the second round pick that outplays
the draft status. The Nets have been fortunate that the
Carolyss LeVert seems to be on the verge of of

(05:55):
out playing his draft status. Jared Allen seems to be
out playing his draft statist certainly. Certainly the Um Harris
who assigned as a free agent, is way better than
they saw, as well as Spencer Dimwitty. You know, so
they've built a relatively nice group of players that are
outperformed their status. But they also think what's really interesting

(06:18):
is the Nets is that culture is that people want
to play for Kenny Atkinson, they buy into Seawan Marks,
and it's interesting that they bring in Kyrie, who really
disrupted that culture in Boston which will get to in
a few moments, and they believe that he will push
them forward. I've read a lot of people today that said, hey,
D'angela Russell, is Kyrie irving that much better? Yes, I

(06:39):
think he is, to be honest with you, but is
it worth potentially disrupting that culture? The answer is so
far they've gotten everything right and they wanted to go
to the next level. What people like people like my

(07:00):
friend Fran will tell you is that D'Angelo Russell's a
limited player. You don't have any problem of attacking him
on defense. Um, he there are ways to play him defensively.
Now he's gotten to be a much better finisher than
he was in Ohio State. Um. You know, the advantage
of ded' angelo Russell is he can play the point,

(07:22):
he can play the two, but he's not a super
athlete for read the position. So I think that defensive pressure.
You know, now you're getting into the thing that that
that Rad Stevens was throwing his arms up because they
had no idea why Kyrie was winding up on the
honest in the playoffs and whether he'll be able to
coach Kyrie, that's a different story, but it put de'

(07:46):
angelo has his limitations. And I think that the Nets
are playing to try to win a championship. I think that,
you know, and again that's really the real question here
is what's the objective? Is the objective to sneak into
the playoffs? And I mean I think that twist Shawl
it's gone wrong, or is the objective to win a championship,
and what is that objective? And maybe the problem with
the Knicks. The knicks first objective should be to get

(08:08):
into the playoffs and Bill stagewise, but again none of
us believe that. In the NBA. Again, I think what
the Knicks have done is they pivoted. I'm gonna ask
you the big question that Nick's twitters when we're wondering, now,
it's not the deals that we're seeing, it's it's the
players for for the Knicks. So you pivot away. You
don't get Durant, you don't get Kyrie, you're never in
the mix for Kauai. Kemba signs with Boston in the
blink of an eye, and and and let's go through that.

(08:29):
If you're not getting Durant, do you really want Kempa? No, No,
you don't. You don't want anybody. You don't want anybody.
And that was a big fear of Nick fans, And
they would spend a lot of money on a Chris
Middleton or Tobias Harris or something like that. Instead they
pivot to these one and two, in the case of
Julius Randall, three year deals with the team option involved
in all of them, and you on the service if
I told you that, Okay, that makes sense. But the

(08:53):
specific players, it's three power pards in Julius Randall, in
Taj Gibson in Bobby Portis. It's two shooting guards slash
small forwards in Reggie Bullock and Wayne Ellington. It's another
point guard that isn't exactly known for his shooting, much
like Dennis Smith Jr. In Alfred Payton. It's a lot

(09:13):
of the same. So the quick question that Knicks fans
have are or these signings that we've just spent all
of our cat money on, are they going to stop
the development of our younger players Mitchell Robinson a big
man or j Barrett, Kevin Knox two scores too? What
could be or should be shooters? Dennis Smith Jr. Who

(09:33):
they acquired for christophs Perzinis in a move to clear
up cap space in a deal that looks terrible now.
Is what the Knicks doing makes sense to you? The
Knicks are just buying lottery tickets right now. They're hoping.
They're hoping that one of They're hoping that between these players,

(09:54):
one of them is an emerging Oladipo or most emerging
de'angelo Russis and he saw that actually to eight a
cheaper extent last year, right, bring in Mario Rizonia, bringing
in Noah von Ley, some of these found lottery picks.
So you know what the Knicks hope for is you
hope that Barrett is a superstar, a superstar, Okay, and

(10:19):
then you basically look amongst those other players to see
if any of them are better than you perceived them
to be. So, in other words, you know, the real
question that I'd ask is is Bobby porter is better
than Noah Vonley? Okay? The Knicks obviously think he has
a higher upside, more though you also costs more. But

(10:39):
you know, Bobby Portis can shoot it. He's twenty four
years old. He's twenty four years old. Is do any
of these guys? Do any of these guys? Now? I
can tell you. Randall to me is this generation Zach Randolph?
You put him on any team? Well again, you remember
Zach Randolph. What's his Memphis is Lee and other? When

(11:01):
if you look at Zach Randolph when he was on
the next whatever team he's on, he gets minutes, he's
better than everybody else. He scores points, and they say
he's a defensive liability. But he was never on a
team that won any games until he was on that
Memphis team with Gasol and Mike Conley. And and that's
why your perception of him is better. You know, Julius

(11:23):
Randolph Randall has scored points, you know, New Orleans, the
Lakers and you know, twenty four points a game last year,
I believe, and the Pelicans, you know, two teams have
given up on him. And you know you're gonna say
they didn't give up on him, but they didn't resign him,
you know, they So the Lakers themselves had a weird

(11:48):
offseason last year. It still doesn't make sense to me.
So I'm gonna throw that out the window. I really am.
This is what the Pelicans are gonna give you because
they lost Anthony Davis, they lost to Marcus Cousins, they
had Zion Williamson, and you wanted to pair on with somebody,
and they chose the parent with Derrick Favors instead of
Julius Randall. You're absolutely right, they let Julius Randall. Just go.

(12:10):
Julius Randall, Okay, you know when we play over under
and stuff like that, he's gonna average points a game.
He's going to get his points. The question you always ask,
and this is the the same, don't mean to reiterate this
is that somebody's gonna score in the twenties. The same
point that made about Barrett being Rookie of the Year.
You know, somebody's gonna score in the twenties and bad teams.
So the question is is how efficient Randall is going

(12:32):
to be and how much he gives up on on
the defensive side of the court. That's really going to
be the question with with with Randall. He he is
the duplicate of of of Zack Randall, So does he
compute on a winning team? Thus far in his career.
One of the things is the Knicks have signed a
lot of players that have always you know, the three

(12:53):
players that you mentioned, you know been on losing teams.
Now that you know portists and and and Julius Randall,
who you know, I guess the three players that they
signed that have upside of Peyton, Julius Randall, and Bobby
Portis theoretically, and then they they signed three players to
make them competitive or a trade for second round draft

(13:13):
picks at the trade deadline. So I think the idea
of trading Ellington and Bullock was maybe we catch lightning
in the bottle, but everybody wants shooting at the deadline,
we can get second round picks for them. So that's
absolutely so, that's absolutely right. I'm glad you brought that up,
that all these guys, given that their team options, you
can train them at the deadline and get second round
picks from Ellington Bullock. We saw it last year both
of those guys get traded. So I agree, D Gibson.

(13:35):
I couldn't figure out, well, that's just that's just the
veteran leadership to teach Robbinson and played defense precisely. It's
DeAndre Jordan from last Year's what that is. That's whatever
to me. But you brought up the point of trading
away a Wayne Allington and Reggie Bullock for a second
round pick sometime this year from teams that always look
for shooting, and you're right about that. But what I'm

(13:57):
seeing a lot of on Nick's Twitter and and NB
Twitter in general is that, Okay, you signed Julius Randall
the stat stuff for this young player. We'll see what
he turns into. And that's half your cap space. Give
a take at sixty million dollars. But for that other
half he just spent on Bullock in Ellington and Gibson
and Peyton and Portis why wouldn't you take on other

(14:20):
people's crap and get first round picks. We saw it
today with more heartless traded in this Jimmy Butler deal.
Get to that in a moment. We saw that before
the draft with t. J. Warren the Sons to the Pacers.
We saw that with the Nets to the Hawks giving
away first round picks in the future three, just like
the Nets did to clear up it caps precisely Alan

(14:42):
Crab exactly. You get rid of Alan Crab, but you
give a first round pick to go with it. We
see it all the time in the NBA. Instead, the
Nick signed all of these reserves and maybe they'll get
second round picks for them. Why why, why why did
not do it the other way and get first round picks.
I thought they were going to try to make trades.
You know, there is a paucity of very very bad

(15:03):
contracts out there. Um and but again I think that
the Nicks should be assembling as much draft capital as
they possibly can, because you know, the real question is,
and I haven't seen Everett Payton play enough okay to

(15:23):
judge that is, Can any of the three players that
a less than thirty be a part of a winning team?
That's really the question, and I mean the way they
look at it is if one of them is, then
that's a win for them. Sure. But they they made
their bet just looking at them, and they like Randall

(15:43):
better than we do. Correct they made and I like
I like Randall. I like him. I like him more
than you do. And that's fine. They made their bet
with Julius. My question is, do you think that Randall
wins your basketball games? And now he's going to score points?
I think Randall could be a part of a winning team.
I don't think that ultimately, where where do you play him?
You're gonna I think on this team you're playing him
at the four next to Mitchell Robinson. Right, he doesn't jump, well,

(16:07):
he's a bad defender. That's why you put him next
to a good defender and Robinson theoretically, theoretically, but my
my point is there their whole they're casting their their
bets here that Randall is the guy that could develop
into us into a player on a winning team. Gibson
Hortis Ellington. Well, look, Peyton, I'm not gonna do that,

(16:30):
So why not just take on these crappy contracts? Are
they haven't figured out how to tank? Well, that's the problem, okay,
they you know, and I also think that they truly
don't want a tank next year. I worked this series
R J. Barrett. Okay, but I think that, you know,

(16:55):
they're still selling fift hundred dollar tickets. I think they
want the lose. And I mean, you know, if Fizdale
wins less than twenty games, it's gonna be hard to
tell people that he's a really great basketball coach. Okay,
I I think that. You know. The other thing is
last year was their first full year. In their own minds,

(17:19):
they want to show at least the tifteen game improvement
seventeen games last year. They want to win twenty six
is here. I don't think that moves the envelope. I
think they want to win thirty. Oh, I mean, I
think that's what they want to do. I mean, I
think that's what they want to do. And and and
you know, again it's it's a little early, but most

(17:41):
people have like James Weisman being the top pick in
the NBA draft, and again nobody's saying that he's a
legendary type of player. I mean, now, let's be fair.
Zion came out of nowhere to be, you know, considered
like Lebron was known for years. You know, Lebron was

(18:02):
you know, the Savior for years. He just so well known,
you know, you know, just like Patrick Ewen was the
Savior for years. Eli Jahan was very you know, known entity.
Shaquille O'Neill. There haven't been too many like that, you know,
bona fide first six, you know when you actually look
at look at coming into the league, and you know

(18:23):
since that time, but you know, a lot of different things.
So so I think that the Dolan factor has come
into play. I really really have to say, don't use
any doubt about that. I And it's interesting it doesn't
play along the Ranges. When I was coming down here,
I saw the Rangers in the top free agent. The
Rangers have been able to get kids out of college.

(18:44):
The perception of the Rangers that Dolan also different, is
very very different. But you know, again I guess being
you know, even though you know both of us are Jewish,
we were not considered minorities in New York. We don't perceive,
but there's something about Dolan and in certain players that

(19:05):
that you know, basically you know, it's it's put a kabash,
And I mean, I think that's what really what this
is a reflection on it because I think, you know,
the Knicks had a very progressive front office, that the
only team in the NBA that has an all African
American front office, and they really you know, we were
hearing that teams only want to sign with all stars.
Well the only all stars the Nets had was d'

(19:26):
Angelo Russell and he's gone and he's gone. So I
mean we can talk about Collins, you know, Leavert all
we want in Jared Allen, but I mean is that
much is lever? Would you trade LeVert for R? J? Barrett? I?
I wouldn't do that if I'm the Nick of course
not of course. So the Net the Nets, like I
told like a start of the show, they built a
culture there with Sean Marks and with Kenny Atkinson and

(19:51):
impressed there. I think it goes from the coaching to
the general manager to the training staff. We you you
said it didn't matter last week. I'm gonna ask you again,
who's doc are reform the surgery on Kevindurunt, Marty O'Malley, Yeah,
the next team doctor. They believe in that training system,
in that medical system that has taken their time with
every player coming back from injury. Well it's interesting too.

(20:11):
They built a beautiful facility right in Brooklyn, right at
ball correct. The Knicks facility is up and up in Westchester,
near where I live. And the players want to live
in the city. And when the Knicks first built that facility,
the range of players have always loved that facility. But
don't forget your average hockey player comes from a small town,

(20:32):
usually frequently in Canada, New York, etcetera. They like living
in the suburbs and coming into the city to play
their games. The Knicks players used to live in White
Plains and complain about coming down to the city, you know,
and then they would move down to the city. A
lot of them live in the sky building right where
where where the lifetime fitness And there's a basketball court

(20:55):
there that they'll work out and that they close. But
but they don't like having to go to Westchester to practice,
you know. And that's an interesting thing. I don't know
how much that goes into it to some extent. But
what I'm I guess the point is that everybody can
pay everybody pretty much the same. There's a limit. So
quality of life means everything now and the Nixon not

(21:17):
perceived as a good quality of life amongst NBA players.
I think that's the take home message. Absolutely. I don't
know there's any disagreement there. Let me stay in the
atlant divisions we can see on going over a free
agency and never resist to the first question before we leave,
what do you think the upside is for the Nets
right now? What do you think that Let's go this

(21:38):
year and go three years from now. So last year
the Nets were the sixth seed in the playoffs. There
was really no difference between six and to nine virtually, definitely, definitely,
but they were the sixth seed. How much better can
Kyrie Irving make them in the East this year and

(21:59):
the sixth seed? I don't know all that different. I
really don't like I look at the teams and a
lot of it does depend on Kawhi Leonard. We still
don't have word on yet. Where do you think he goes?
I stand by it he goes back to Toronto. One
you deal one year in a player option, but Lebron

(22:19):
was doing in Cleveland. Um, I think that you're looking
at four or five six seed. Again, I don't know
that there's enough on this team. You have caught Kyrie absolutely,
but is he a ten game up grade on And
then I don't want. I don't, I don't, I don't want.
I don't want to do that because I want to

(22:39):
talk about the free agencies by the team. That's what
brings me to Philadelphia, one of the teams that I
have ahead of the nets, right, because what Philadelphia did
is really interesting. Supposedly, from what I read, they offered
max is to both Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris. Tobias
Harris accepted it highest contract that he could possibly get.
Jimmy Butler did not. Jimmy Butler decided to take his

(23:01):
talents to Miami South Beaches. I should have said it
was an Indian to his talents to South Peach, but
in doing so, one of the most money. Of course,
so they have of a sign and trade. So the
Sixers actually made out okay here because they got Josh
Richardson back and then they also opened up space to
sign out Horford, which I think is a really interesting

(23:21):
fit next to MB because Horford will play power forward them,
which is really interesting. What have you What have you
thought the Sixers moves over the last twenty four hours?
I always thought alfit's I've always told you that Alf
Horford's the most underrated players. Yes, you have. You know
Al Horford is is the players player, you know, you
know he the similarity to me is Rashid Wallace that

(23:44):
everybody in the NBA used to tell me that that
I knew was washed. Wallace was much better than you
think he is. Al ho Off It is ridiculously strong.
You know, he hits the outside shot. He's a winning player.
Going back to what we talked about with the Knicks,
Nick signed a whole bunch of players, none of whom
knows how to wink, which is why you shot them.

(24:04):
Al Horford has won everywhere he's been. He's outperformed every
single year he was in Atlanta. Atlanta won more games
than you thought they were going to win. Before last year.
The Celtics always went further than you thought they were
gonna go. Okay, last year, the chemistry was just off,
which is one of the reasons I think he left.
So I think he shoots it well. I think he
defends well. I think that also when Embiid takes his vacation,

(24:28):
he stays out on the court. UM. I think, and
they are putting up what is one of the longest
teams that I've ever seen, you know, in terms of length.
I mean they can go across, you know, they can
go across, you know, basically be six ten all the
way across, and you know, Josh Richardson and and I
think that's really gonna bother people an awful lot. I

(24:50):
do think they're gonna miss j. J Reddick. I think
so too. I I think that jj Reddick was a
real you know, space ser And my question with the Sixers,
and I think Al Horford. Al Horford doesn't miss open shots.
Doesn't have the greatest release in the world, but he
doesn't miss open shots. He can play. He can God,

(25:12):
he can play. But my problem with the Sixers is
when you have Embiid and you have Ben Simmons on
the court, if do they have enough spacing out there
to to to to do that. Um. I also think
that Embiad is very fragile, you know, going back to

(25:32):
you know, the health, health concerns I mean, it is
just something about whether he's actually gonna be there when
it comes showtime. I'd always downgreak Philadelphia because your best player.
I mean, I guess injuries can happen to anybody, as
we saw her in the worries, But I think Embiid
missing playoff games is something that would be a predictable
type thing. I think that's fair. We've seen that a

(25:56):
lot over the last year, that vacation you mentioned with
Joel and b the laoffs with his knee, that he
was out over his insurance in that way. And it's
a young player. When you hear that it takes him
two hours to get ready to play a game, that's
a little concerning. I mean, if that was JJ Reddick,
you know, squeezing uh, you know, a sixteenth year out

(26:17):
of that body. But you know, honestly, Himbad has very
a few miles on his spedometer. If you add up
the number of NBA in college minutes that he's played,
it's a very low number for him to be this problematic.
You know, he missed his first two years coming out
of Kansas. He only played one year of Kansas that

(26:38):
he played played pot of and this is really his
second year being on the court. So if you look
at the number of years we've known Himbiad's name, and
the amount of minutes he's played, it's really a low
number for the amount of you know, disturbances that he has.
I don't even know what to call it. I agree,

(27:01):
and and that's true. You look at the Sixers team
you mentioned with J. J. Reddick leaving, they miss out
a major three point shooting obviously, Um, that's something that
that will have to get picked up by Josh Richardson,
by Tobias Harris. They're gonna have to step up the
space to floor better. But they don't have great Reddick
has a great release. That that's you see, that's the
thing that people don't don't know the speed, you know.

(27:23):
One of the things that you wonder is like, why
is Kyle Carver still in the NBA? Okay? You know,
you know, you go, you go to a gym and
you see other six foot seven people that can shoot
it really, really well. The answer is he knows how
to come off the picks. He knows how to you know,
he has a fantastic release and gets rid of the
ball before great NBA players can close. So is a

(27:46):
huge difference between just great shooters and Tobias Harris hitting
it and somebody like Reddick and Kyle Corver who just
know how to do that well. And that's why those
guys get jobs. You know, you know that you can
almost wheel them out. Absolutely absolutely. Jimmy Butler, as we said,
he goes down to Miami in a very complicated trade

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um that landed Hassan Whiteside in Portland, that landed the
Clippers and extra first round pick and Mo heartless, and
it landed Miami Jimmy Butler. This fit makes sense and
that We'll remember a year ago when Jimmy Butler wanted
out of Minnesota, Miami was his first choice. He wanted
to go play in South Beach with the heat. But

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you look at this team and what they have, and
you're like, why, why, exactly why Miami? I get it.
I mean, I think they have a better coach than
the Knicks. Okay, I I but I'm not sure what
else they really have, you know, I mean, they're at

(28:52):
best an eighth to twelveth seed in the East. You know,
they're somewhere there. They're certainly not top five. I mean,
if you go through the East and the top. I
mean I think that you know, again you have the
big you know whereas landed going to sign um. But
I think Milwaukee, I think Indiana is better. Okay, Boston

(29:17):
is interesting. I think Boston, you have to say, is
a little worse. But Kemba Walker is a great finisher,
you know, and if you wonder how many games players
like Kemba Walker can actually win for you that are
close at the end of the game, let's get into
Boston because I think I think it was really interesting

(29:38):
because the number one problem you mentioned it and I
mentioned everybody mentioned it was that chemistry issue in Boston.
You're not gonna have that with Kemba Walker. Kumble Walker
is a winner, and he's a good dude and a
great finisher, great finisher, and he's becoming and he's become
a better three point shooter. He's worked on that over

(29:58):
the last decade. And you know what, at in the
last I used to say that in my time, in
the last minute of the game, I thought that the
best player in the West was Kobe Bryant and the
best player in the East was Paul Pierce. I thought

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Paul Pierce was an assassin because he certainly was coming
down the stretch. I think that, you know, it's interesting.
I never thought Lebron James was a great finish, right,
but he was a past past first. He certainly wasn't
the finish of the Paul Pierce or Jordan's for that matter.
And I'm the biggest Lebron James. I think that we've

(30:40):
never seen anybody bigger, faster, They to do more things,
but in terms of finishing ability in a close game,
he was no Jordan's And I think that, you know,
by the same token, I thought Lebron in his prime
plus any four people is a semifinalist team, and I
don't think Jordan's ever could do that to the same
same level. So it was I I honestly believe Lebron

(31:00):
is the best basketball player I've ever seen, okay, and
the most dominant. And the only other person I'd put
in his class in my lifetime would be Lu Alsint
to Kareem abdul Ba. And the reason I say Lou
al Cinto because I think he was more dominant as
he was younger, and then they had to really changed
the rules for him. But Jordan was the greatest finisher
that I've ever seen. And Kobe Bryant was a great finisher,

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and Paul Piers was a great finisher. Um, I think
Kemba Walker is a first class finisher, you know, college,
pro games, etcetera. Never been really on a good team.
But Yukon, I mean he took Yukhan to the national
title by himself, and and and and and and basically
Big East Tournament. Every game in that tournament, end of
the game, Kemba Walker would figure out a way to score.

(31:44):
Do do do do doing those things. So I think
Kemba Walker is a great finisher. Again, you know, not
saying anything revolutionary here. The real thing with the Celtics
is is what Gordon Haywood did they signed? Did they
signed the player you know now two years back that
that Utah had, because if if what in Haywood's there?
Um So the other issue that they did defensively, They're

(32:08):
gonna have some issues carriers a good defender. Our Howard's
a fantastic defender, and they've replaced out Horford with Ennis
Cancer certainly not a good defender. Yeah, they lost something there,
but Ennis can't to place his butt off, plays hard.
It definitely gets offensive, offensive rebounds, and you know, I'm
sure Brad Stevens feels that he can hide him. Every

(32:30):
other coach's tried to hide and his cancer has not
been successful. You know, it was interesting when I used
to we used to see Ennis cancer a ton Is
that the fans loved him because he played his butt off.
He rebounds like how and he looks like he makes
great place. Okay, And then you'd go home and you
read the statistics, you find the doubt that the Knicks.

(32:51):
The Knicks had the you know, the best points against
that the Knicks had was when Poizingis was on the
court without him, and and that he was you know,
he had one of the worst plus minus ratios in
the NBA. Yet we would go to the game and
think he was the best player. Yeah, so I never
really knew that was one time with the eye tests

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would definitely fail. But I think most people have Boston
as a middle rank playoff team. Okay, that's fair, that's fine.
And then you get to one of the top rank
playoff teams. It's Milwaukee who kept mostly everyone, yet you
kept curse Middleton and bring back George Hilly. Have already
resent Eric Blood, so Yannest is not going anywhere at
least for the next two years. So Milwaukee Brook Lopez

(33:35):
has been brought back as well. They may be bringing
Robin Lopez and I read so they're gonna be back
the one guy they lost brus Me Indiana, where we
knew they were on the lookout for a point guard.
They desperately to the point guard Darren Collison retires, they
don't have one. Traded George Hillaway a couple of years ago,
and someone to play next to Victor Ola Depot. They

(34:00):
for t J. Warren at the draft. He like, okay,
I like that and see that that's cool. And the
point guard that everybody was kind of circling and pointing
toward Indiana was Ricky Rubio. Well, Rubia winds up in Phoenix,
oddly enough, the only ones who wanted him, and the
Pacers signed for four years and eighty five million dollars.

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A player that well really isn't a true point guard,
and that's Malcolm Brogden. But he can shoot it, he
can shoot it, he can defend, he can shoot it,
he can defend. He's well coached, and I thought he
played better in the playoffs, especially in healthy once he
got healthy then and bled so right at the end
now saying that Milwaukee played their best games in the
playoffs without him. Um, I was surprised that they let

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him go. I guess they really did. Four years and
five million dollars is probably the reason they let him go.
But you know, with what was going on, you know,
I can't look into their pockets and do it. I
would have gone into the luxury tax for one year
and brought everybody back, because again, I think that their

(35:07):
window of opportunity is small. And even through all this,
when you really take a look at it, the NBA
is weaker because when we if we were doing this
show last year, we would say there's Golden State Houston
with a puncher's chance, and the rest of the NBA

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you agree with that. Now Golden State has come back
to the pack, and no one believes that Toronto was dominant,
even if Kawaii goes back. So that means everybody believes.
You know, if you're sitting in Milwaukee right now, do
you think you can't beat Toronto? If you replayed the

(35:51):
seven game series, you you absolutely so. The fact that
Toronto really can't rewind unless obviously you know Kauai science
with them. If I'm Milwaukee yesterday, I would have done
everything to rewind and come back full. And they lost
Merritech too, But that was a weird one. He went

(36:11):
out to Europe, went back to Europe. Maybe it was
the Bobby Porters punch. Maybe maybe maybe that's but I
but I agree. I think Milwaukee wants I think that
was the only physical play point has had all yeah,
or something like that. I think Milwaukee did everything they
could to bring back what they had last year. They
said West Matthew used to kind of replace Malcolm Brocken.
That was an okay fit there. Um in the East,

(36:33):
Let me get to the West. Let me get to
the West, because I still stands out Lakers who have
their meeting are gonna have their meeting or want their meeting,
say with the Clippers, who was just kind of alluded
to in recent days, and the Raptors have an eerily
silent Lakers really interesting if they don't get Kauai, have
Anthony Davis, have Lebron have Kyle Kuzma. But because they've

(36:59):
been waiting for Kauai, they got nothing. There is nothing
else out there, not right now. Everyone thought Bullock was
going back to them. Maybe they know, but they don't
even have any draft picks to give off and nothing.
They have nothing if Kauai does not sign with the Lakers.
I mean, I know Lebron and Anthony Davis are unbelievable

(37:19):
and they're wrong. You still need shooters, You still need shooters.
You don't have them. Beverley went to stay in l
A with the Clippers. You know, I I you see
one of the players that I would have liked instead
of Peyton, and I know he went for a higher price,
would have been Rogier. So going back to the Eastern
moment right right, essentially Boston and Charlotte traded point guards here,

(37:42):
Terry Rosier going to Charlotte, Kemba going to Boston. And
when you may like Rosier better than Peyton, that's fine,
and I agree, is he a winning player? Like? Are
we shirt? Like? What is what is Charlotte going to
gain by investing all this money into Terry Rogier? They
had to give money to somebody. Charlotte misplayed. The real
question Charlie is why don't you trade if you weren't

(38:03):
if you aren't going to max him? And is that
what you think happened. They didn't maxim well they you
know what I heard happened is is he said, you know,
I'd pay for the four year max or something like
rip off the fifth year. And they said, oh, that's
too much too But if you weren't going to do that,
why when you get rid of him at the deadline? Totally?
Do you know somebody's going to That made no sense

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to me, you know, and I think that, you know,
they they Rogier wasn't truly a trade. Maybe they'll make
it a sign and trade for cap reasons, but it
was really you know, Boston just needed the cap space.
But Rogie played very very well in the playoffs last
the year before. Um is he a winning player? I mean,
at least he want a playoff series. I have no idea.

(38:48):
I think that going back to the West, now, yeah,
that's right. You have the Lakers, you have the Clippers
that take on Mo Harkless, that take on Patrick Beverley.
Kind of a stand still trying to just see what's
out there. They made the playoffs this year. They still
with Lou Williams and Montres Harold mostly their whole teams together,
still Alexander Yep and well that's he could be the

(39:12):
next emergent player. He looked super at the end of
last year. He's definitely an emerging player. Um. I mean,
but you stay, you stay in California, Doc, and you
get the Golden State who doesn't have the ran anymore.
They're retiring his number, but they don't have them anymore.
Clay Thompson will be back. It's like Jewish guilt. Retiring
his number. That is really like Jewish guilt. I have

(39:34):
to say. It's like it's it's we're gonna make him
feel like he was a real warrior at this point
in time, and you know, you could have waited till
his career was done or something like that. They still are,
they said, at some point they retire his number. Yeah,
it's it's the ultimate in Jewish. They then go out
and sign you said before the program you liked it,

(39:55):
and during it on the show, d'angela Russell from the
Nets and they're gon pass on some assets to Minnesota
and clear up space and whatnot. But in this move
you lose the rent and really you start cracking away
at that dynasty because your trade away Andre Goodala as
well to free up cash space for D'Angel Russell, you
said you like the fit. I think they had to

(40:17):
get younger, more athletic. I mean, we were talking about
this that if everybody came back. I thought it was
sentiment more than intelligence, you know. I think that you
know that they need some younger pieces who rewind come back,

(40:38):
you know, and you make a decision with Clay next
year if if you're in it, you're bringing back in March.
If you're out of it sabbatical, okay, you know, you
know he's gonna come back at a UM. I think
they need younger, more, you know, younger, more athletic corps.
I think that, you know, sometimes when you stay the same,
it becomes too static, and it wasn't. Obviously staying the

(41:02):
same for next year would have been fine, but you
would have had to been the same for two years.
And now you're gonna guarantee to five year contracts and
you have Draymond Green coming up next year and you
have to keep Curry under contract. I think that you
would have gotten to stale. I agree with that you're
ringing in talent. D'angela Russell is talented, no doubt about that.

(41:22):
He in twenty three years old, and getting better, and
and and you know again, d' Angelo Russell is a
very good, you know, slasher, you know, with his floating shots,
and he's taller than most guards, and with Steph Curry
opening up that lane for him, he's going to get
a lot of shots, you know, the way they moved

(41:42):
the ball around. So I think he's gonna play well
with them, especially without Claike Thompson on the court. So
I think it works, you know it. It puts them
back in my mind to just with Draymond Green him
and and and and the team that everybody's talking about
doc in the Western Conference is the Utah Jazz. That's correct,

(42:05):
Utah Jazz. They go out and make the trade for
Mike Conley. They now point guard to pair up next
to Donovan Mitchell. They go out and sign a big
man and replaced Derrick Favors. That's big Ed Davis two years,
ten million dollars. They give Boyon Bogdanovitch four for seventy
three to give him a defensive whiz and a big
time shooter to go along with Joe Ingles there. What

(42:26):
do you think what Utah has done? I thought played
Lebron James is tough as anybody out there. I think
he's a tough player. Um. I think that everybody loves
Mike Conley. I don't know. One of the things I
wonder about Mike Conley is is is like he's always
been picked as everybody's most underrated player. Has he been

(42:47):
underrated so long that people are overrating him? You know,
to be perfectly honest, um, I you know, I think
he's probably lost the step. He's very, very heavy, Um,
but he is an upgrade over Ricky Rubio because Rubio
has a terrible release and is at best to set shoot.

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You know, he's a good Ruby is a very good passer,
and he's very you know, sees the court real well.
But Conley is a much better driver and dishirt than
Ricky Rubio and much better shooters. So that's an upgrade.
I I think you know, Ed Davis. I think Favors
two favors is pretty much a push at a lower

(43:32):
price to be perfectly honest. Um. And again, the real
issue with Utah is Ken Donovan Mitchell take it to
the next level and be more efficient, you know, to
be perfect human highlights film his first year last year,
he was good, but he can also shoot you out

(43:55):
of the bulk, shoot you out of the game, and
he has to become a more efficient player for them
to make the next sleep no doubt, I mean that
that would be my take. I still think that everybody's
underrating Denver. So I was gonna get to Denver and
I'm just gonna get to Houston in a moment, because
these are the two Western Conference powers, if you will.

(44:17):
They haven't done anything yet. Houston has resigned Austin Rivers,
they have resigned Daniel House, they have brought back Gerald Green.
They haven't done anything. Then we're Nuggets. Outside of drafting
Bull Bowl and maybe getting Michael Porter Jr. Out there,
they haven't done anything either. They extended Jamal Murray, but
they haven't done anything. Is this one of those cases

(44:40):
you mentioned Milwaukee that if you were Milwaukee, you would
do everything you can and just keep this core together
and see what you can build upon. Keep this core
and then get get your your your best player. At
towards the deadline, you know, as soon as as soon
as the team's like the Knicks, Falter, you pick up,
pick up whatever you can, you pick up whatever you
can do. Do you feel the same way when it
comes to the rock gets the Nuggets, well, you know,

(45:02):
the Rockets seem to you know, I couldn't figure out
what the Rockets were doing getting rid of p J.
Tucker and Clint Capella. And the only thing that I
can think of was Darren Moory was thinking was that
the competition was no longer the Golden State Warriors. I
think that he picked those players thinking that everything was

(45:26):
the Warriors a bust and that he didn't think having
e J. Tucker against if you weren't playing the Warriors
and that wasn't your Draymond Green matchup was as as
as significant. I honestly think that he's he's really been
playing against one team for the last two years. So

(45:46):
I think he's reshuffled the deck and thinking about it,
and I really don't know who he thinks his competition
is to to to do that. You know, the real
question is can this style of isolation ball a make
it through the season without their players killing each other okay,
and be actually win a big seventh game. And you know, my, my, my,

(46:12):
you know, my sixth cents in watching James Harden is
that is got tons of miles on the spaedometer. And
when you get to crunch time, there's just something missing
in the playoffs that he just can't finish the same way.
And plus and then there's something else that's going on,
which is that he's such a whiner that everything that

(46:36):
is happening to him on the court is magnified. So
they're gonna be games where he gets the calls and
games that he doesn't get the calls, and that the
season is based on and on how that was games
may be called. We've seen that the last couple of
years now for James Harden and the Houston Rockets, a
couple of more teams. I do want to mention your

(46:56):
doc before we move away and and wrap this up. Um.
The Phoenix Suns with Ricky Rubia, he said they signed
him because well, nobody else wanted them. I don't know
what the Suns are doing. I really don't. It doesn't
make sense to me. Well, you mean from the Sun's
standpoint or from from yeah, well the Rubio doesn't take
the money wherever you can find the money. But yeah,

(47:19):
with the young team, why why signed you know? And
this is one of the lessons is just having high
draft picks doesn't make a team right. I mean, because
they've had a ton of high draft picks, so you
have to develop the talent, and somehow the talent has
to be better. I don't think there's any one's secret source,

(47:43):
you know, but if you look at you know, Toronto,
for example, there were several keys for Toronto winning the championship.
Perhaps the biggest he he was Oscar Siakam being better
than any of us thought. He was one more team.
I want to mention Sacramento Kings, another team that I

(48:05):
just had no clue what they're doing now. They fired
their head coach on a year that there was clearer
progress made. I mean they were in a coach. It
was a good coach, absolutely Dejager. Absolutely, it's a team
that clearly made progress. But that's the second time he's
been fired when you, at least from the outskirts don't
think he should have been fired both Memphis and there.

(48:26):
So you wonder if he either great people or stuff
like that, because if you look, yes, yes, and I
would feel that way if this happened right in right
before Dave Yager was announced, the head coach of the
King's head Coaches, Mike Malone, who was just out of
nowhere they were going in the right direction. They fired him.

(48:46):
He's now the coach of Denver and entrenched. When Jager
was higher was fired rather as coach of Memphis. They
went through all this upheaval in their front office. I mean,
they changed everybody. So you're like, okay, he was a
casualty of that. I look at the Kings who have
done this now three four times. They have no plan,
they have no idea. They've drafted some really talented young

(49:09):
players and Dearon Fox and Marvin Bailey, Willie Colligstein who
they let go, where Harry Giles, But then they bring
in these, let say, schmucks. But then they bring in
these guys like a Dwayne Deadman, Roushawn Holmes, Trevor Ariza,

(49:30):
And I'm like, what are you doing? How? How does
this help you develop your younger players? It does? He
it's there like the Knicks. Yeah, well, although I would
say that right now DeAndre Fox is more Fox, but yeah,
is a more more more valuable asset than anything that
the Knicks happened. Is lightning quick. He's lightning quick. He's

(49:53):
really good. I mean his problem and Corey Joseph three
years thirty seven million dollars, and you know, Buddy healed
is outperformed for them and played very well. And you know,
but if you were the Knicks, would you have preferred
somebody in the Stein mode to Bobby Portis and then

(50:14):
have like kind of twin towers or you think that,
you know, Cauli Stein just doesn't work in today's NBA.
So my answer initially would have been Willie Calli Stein.
I'd rather have Cauli Stein the Bobby Portis. But despite
the punched Nicola marritage a couple of years ago, people
say that boy Portas is like hard working veteran and
and and he's good for the locker round. I was like, really,

(50:36):
Balby Portis um and they see Willie Calli Stein has
some attitude issues. That's the last thing I wanted this
Knicks team is attitude issues. That's why never one of
the Morris twins who are still out there, I didn't want.
I don't need their drama. They're gonna be Lakers. They're
gonna be Lakers. Somebody shooting though, it's Marcus Morris can shoot.
They can shoot, shoot, they can shoot. Both of them
can shoot. I mean, I tell you, you get them confused,

(50:58):
Who's who's the better one there? I think the bet
when you know historically the better one was on Washington.
But I thought the guy on the Celtics played better
last year. But the King's giving Harrison Barnes resigning for
four years for eighty five million. Harrison barr bond is
a nine million dollar player money in his career, It's
been a lot of money. I mean, he was the
he was the player that the Warriors exiled after they

(51:20):
drive and they Ken Durant bring bringing Kevin Durant. So
before we leave the NBA, so who give me who
you think your NBA semifinalists are, you know, top two
in the East, top two in the West. Right now,
I think Milwaukee certainly still in the East, and I
think Toronto depending on Kauai. Right if Kawai has gone,

(51:42):
I'll put Philly there. Um. If Kawai stays, I'll either
and and the Raptors in the Western Conference. It's a
really interesting year, really really interesting. Of course that Durant
and Clay with Golden State, I have to think and
I have to imagine Golden State, Texas step back. I
really believe they will. I think Denver's there. I think

(52:02):
Denver had a really good learning experience last year. They'll
need to get over this home, but they are as
good as any team in the Western Conference. So I'll
say Denver. And you know what a lot of people
are gonna say the Lakers with Anthony Davis and Lebron,
but I'm going to say Houston. I'm going to say
that now that Golden State's not in their way. Houston's

(52:22):
as good as any team in the NBA scoring the basketball,
and I think they give this thing one more go,
and I'll put Houston in my final four. Do you
think the culture can come back? All the stuff with D'Antoni,
the drama, stok winning, tears everything. If they win, If
they win, if they it's a long they don't have
to win at all. They have the finals, they get
past goal the state, it's a it's a long season.

(52:44):
It is. I just Mickey Callaway have a job. I
don't know. I don't know, by the way, that was
something we got wrong. I said that Brody successful people
would find and it's a little bit early, but I
can't understand. I mean, I've I've never seen a team
low more lated game. How much is how much of
that is on him. It's always a hard question to answer,

(53:07):
how much you know? And I think that in baseball
the manager means less between the lines, but I think
they mean an awful lot outside the lines, and how
to manage men and and stuff like that. But which really, really,
you know, amazing when you take a step back, is

(53:29):
and and they have to revert to the mean at
some point, is the Mets have gotten m VP years
out of McNeil and Alonzo, you know which is of
your starting lineup? The ground has been fantastic, you know,
they've gotten m VP years. The starting pitching has been okay,
it hasn't been lights out, Okay, it's been good enough.

(53:49):
August has pitched fine, fine. And there are ten games
unto five with a guy hitting three fifty who hasn't
made a clutch out and and and a rookie with
twenty home runs. That's really hard to do. I mean,
and you know, you look and I don't know. This

(54:14):
seems to just be something wrong. And I don't know
what else you do? Is it? Mickey Callaway's well, I
have no idea, but you gotta do something. It seems
to be something. If fire day violent bringing an eighty
two year old to be the pigeon coach. That was
just craziness. You know, it's what is why are you
holding on a nicky callaway? What is the reason at

(54:34):
this point? What do you need to see? I you
know again, I think you you know to me, Rosario
is a bell weather Okay, that he has a great
batting average with basses loaded. That usually tells me that
there's a lack of concentration when he doesn't feel he
said a lot of that, Okay, a lack of concentration,

(54:56):
which again I think is is a manager. I think
that you know, Robinson Canoe, I'm gonna I'm gonna say it.
You know, when is somebody going to actually be somewhat
honest and say that. You know, when somebody gets caught
with steroids, the problem may not be immediate. It maybe

(55:17):
a year later when they're being scrutinized. And you know,
if if he completely falls off this quickly and doesn't
resuscitate his career, uh, it's it's that he was a
steroid player. And mind you that, you know, steroids are
given like candy down in Caribbean countries and we can
argue all we want but you know he gets caught
last year. Okay, again, he had the whole offseason to

(55:39):
train with it. Okay, you know this year when he
came into spring training it was lights out. But now
he's subject to being tested on a regular basis, and
all of a sudden he falls like you can't imagine,
you can't resuscitate it. Okay, I'm very suspicious. We've said
it now. He said a dream pain the draft season

(56:01):
and how much other performances related to steroids. It's a ton,
the answers. But but it's not immediate like people think it.
It's like Superman's cape r it. What what steroids allow
people to do is it allows them to train harder
and have a lower refractive period. So the the mistake

(56:22):
that fans make, okay, is that they think that if
Greg Sussman and Mitch Rosalind take steroids that we'd be
so much better that we it would be performance there.
The answer is no, we'd be still slow slubs. You know,
weekend Warrior best. We try our best. It wouldn't make it.
It would wouldn't make us. But steroids can take an
extreme athlete who works really hard, like people don't give

(56:46):
Barry Bonds credits to working as hard as he did
and make his work more efficient so he has a
lower refractive time and can come back. And that's what
you're seeing in Canoe is that his offseason training and
the dogs and his little injuries don't allow him to recover.
And what used to be a line drive is now

(57:06):
a groundball at a second base of shortstop. What did
you think of the London series in the side, You know,
I was in France this weekend, so I I went
to France on Wednesday. I came back last night for
a medical meeting to speak at a medical meeting in
months pet of the ranch. It was only a hundred
and thirteen degrees there on Friday and my feet were

(57:28):
melting um. And so you had a great weekend, Yeah,
it was. It was a lot of fun. So I
you know, I only saw the box score, but I
heard it was like two two hundred and fifty feet
to left field. It was their walls flying out. It
was fun. And but I'll say this really London. But
he took at the Mets and how they handle players
and all the time, how the ages and handed Luisa
Varino has been a joke we went Noah Synderguard last

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year for this you don't remember anymore. Was getting the
m R I and I don't want an m R
I don't like m right, and I'm not gonna do this.
Luis Savarino doesn't like the m R I'm seen, so
you're gonna let him start throwing when he tells you
he feels good. Well, no, that's a little bit more
complicated than that. Louis Severino had to the Yankees, if
I know the story correctly, he had an m R
I when they signed him to the contracts okay, and

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they said there was no damage. And then they did
an m R I on him when he said he
couldn't throw, and there was absolutely no change on it.
Well what they said then they had the m R
I that said he had a strange lat. No, I
think the m R I. I see I interpretation when
you read between the lines, was the m m R
I was normal. And he said when they moved his

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arm that it hurt, so they diagnosed him with a
strange lat. But there was not. This was this is
in the Kauai thing. But even but even your imaging
is normal, okay, and you play you're not, but you're
not right. You're not right, okay, but then tell me
this that that was my interpretation. And that's fine. But

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how now three months later do you let him start
throwing have his program and not medically test if that
lad he's okay Brian because he says, because he doesn't
like the m R I machine. No, because because I
would tend to believe because the m R is not
showing anything. So so let's say, for example, you you

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you come to me, okay, and and these are always
you know, I always tell you the same thing. The
hardest injuries to treat is when the subjective and the
objective don't match. Okay, So subjectively you know it feels
like something in your elbow. Objectively, the m R matches
where you have pain, fix it, you have a target.

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What I would perceive is happening with Severino is what
we would you know, label a tie it on and
stuff like that. When you move his physical exam in
different directions, you're seeing strain and tenderness in an area,
but the m R I is not showing true damage.
They're saying he's heel How do they know that? Then?
It's just telling you that when they move his arm.
That's the way he feels. Got it. So, so my

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guess is the m R I and him has always
been read in normal. So how many times are gonna
repeat in normal? Test? Got it? Now? Now, I don't
think the Yankees care about the cost of medicine. But but, but,
but it's there's nothing to be gained. Got it from
the fact that his m R I has always been
normal and his fastball is not exploding. Last piece of
news I want to get into then, right before the
the um are sure started, the horrible, horrible news regards

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Tyler Skaggs. Yeah, you know, I just saw that he
passed away and they didn't say anything. That's it. That's
all I have is that there's no foul play suspected.
He was found passed out in his hotel room in
Texas at two pian this afternoon. Announced dead on the scene. So,
I mean, you know, you you you hate to speculate,
but obviously an episode of sudden death, which is a

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cardiac arrhythm or. And then the real question is is
what precipitates that you know, you you always have to be,
you know, usually twenties. Thank god, you know, we we
have a sense of security that usually twenty seven year
olds don't fall asleep, you know, and and and and
and die. Um. You know, we've seen people on the court,
you know. I've always read this stuff interestingly, you know.

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I think the most famous was Hank Gathers. Now. He
had a condition called, you know, an idiotrophic hyper you're
not gonna idiopathic hyper hYP trophy of the of the
hot muscle I H. S S. Okay, And that becomes
more dangerous when you become dehydrated. And they put him

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on beta blockers to prevent an arrhythmia. But beta blockers
eliminate your ability to mount to heart rate. So he
didn't like taking them because of the symptoms that he felt,
and they're not great drugs for young males. Uh So
he had I H. S. S. Didn't take his beta
blocker um with his ideopathic hypertrophy of the heart, and
then basically the outlet closed and he had an episode

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of sudden death heat marriage, which was absolutely fascinating. Laid
his entire basketball career with one coronary artery. He was
born with a congenital hall hot hot ailment that was
never spotted back in those days, what would you unless
he was even symptomatic today you might have picked it
up on an e KG or something unlikely or an

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echo depending on how much they screen. The NBA probably
doesn't if you don't have a hot murmur or some
sweatness of breath or something, you know, or an enlarged
hot on on a regular chest X. Right, Um, it
was was interesting. Then We've had people that have had
moffin syndrome like flow heiman and and and aneurisms. A

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lot of players that have had said in death, I
mean you don't know if it was something congenital, but
it had been blood clots or you know, you always
have to be suspicious in twenty seven year old most
of the time when they come into the ear, it's
somewhat substance related, and that's what you have to be,
you know, you know, the first thought is whether what
the tox screen is going to show. I'm sure we'll
hear more on this horrible, but it's it's just rather

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rather unfortunate. And you know, again it goes to you know,
you know, you have everything when you have your health.
Um and and I think that's what's what's interesting. You
know what goes into players and I think has an
effect on Kauai, which is kind of why I think

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he may be a little reluctant to take a one
year deal with the player option that's the thing, and
still a two year deal. Sure, the only people one
year deal with that player option. It's the Lebron. It's
the Lebron. Yeah, I'll take it with the player. But
but will he turn down five that's a question, and
I'm sure by next Monday we will have an answer
to Dr Mitchell rosalind. This has been a blast, as always,

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broken down the entire NBA free Agencylate a week from now,
we'll have an answer in Kawhi Leonard. It will be
the MLB All Star Race will kind of take take
the task what you've seen in the first half and
make some predictions of course for the second half as well.
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