January 21, 2019 • 59 mins
Dr. Mitch Roslin is joined by Gregg Sussman to discuss the Patriots-Rams Super Bowl Matchup and how the Yankees won’t be the team to sign Manny Machado before wrapping up with some NCAA basketball talk.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. What is
all of everybody? Welcome inside the studio thirty four. This
is Dot Jock alongside Dr Mitchell rosalind I am Greg
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Sauceman Doctor. Super Bowl is set the Rams and the Patriots.
The first time in eighteen years or so, these two
teams will go at it in the Super Bowl, two
overtime games coming out of conference championship Sunday. How are
you feeling? One word anti climatic and I climb mactic,
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says the good doctor. How come well, I mean you
if you were a New Orleans Saint fan after the
Minnesota miracle and watching that non call and we'll go
back because they and one of the things is I
thought both coaches made very very big mistakes coming down
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the stretch. I was watching the game with my good
buddy Scottie Kellen. He's a professional backcamming player and thinks
about probability. He decides what's befet to go to in
the country club as to where you get the most
value play And Scott was jumping up and down when
when when McVeigh Showan McVeigh kicked the field goal to
tie instead of going to the win. He calculated that
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the Rams decreased their chance of winning that game by twelve.
And then you watch Shoan Peyton come down at the
end and Drew Bredes throws up at duck that lands
in in in in ted Gins hands. You're a one
and you're saying to yourself, I'm thinking, does it make
sense to allow them to score? To get the ball
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back and showan Payton goes and throws the ball, and
now you have to play for the touchdown because it's
the difference of getting the Rams getting the ball back
with a minute thirty are not And then you get
probably what people are saying is the worst non call
in football history, which would have ended the game for
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all intensive purposes. I guess they could have let them
score if they were stupid enough to do it. You
could have let them score. It could have missed a
field goal there, or a couple of other things that
had to happen. I also want to note were a
lot about this I mentioned earlier on Today and some
of our other shows, and that was the fact that yes,
they got screwed in a terrible non call, no doubt
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about it. They have the ball over time, just like
the Patriots did. Patris went down and scored, no problem.
Saints the interception, well, and that's the second thing that
was anti climatic because that was this. You know, I
think the probability states that the team that wins the
coin to US wins overtime games. But there are games
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in there are games, and you know, give the Patriots
credit for ground and pound in the first half. And
you know, I don't think I think everybody felt who
was watching that game, whoever won the toin t US
was gonna win that game. And at the you know,
the one chance they had is early once they got
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that first and second first down, and then Ogan makes
that absolutely amazing catch, and they probably would have gone
for it. I don't think Belichick would have ever let
them get the ball back except on downs. I agree
with you if Hogan, I agree with you, Hogan, Hogan
didn't didn't make that catch. But I mean, I think
that everybody watching that game wants Mahomes to get the ball.
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Where do we stand today? You know, is it going
to become like the college game where they're going to
review every play. I went to the University of Miami
game against Florida State I thought it was like gonna
end in next year. I thought I didn't need a
Sun dial by the time it ended because the college
games and now over four hours with this with the stoppage,
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which kind of gets a little bit unbearable. Yeah, and
as you know, a huge opponent of replay in general,
Like I think if we have the technology get it right,
we should always get it right. But I think that
always goes to extent. We talked about this with baseball
in that certainly when you're going down the first baseline
like it, there should be replay, Like if you're if
you beat of the ball in the bag, replay should
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verify that or tell you that you're wrong. When it
comes to balls and strikes, that is a subjective thing, right, Like, yes,
I know there's a strike zone, but that's relatively subjective,
and I never want instant replay to verify that or
cancel that out. And when it comes to the NFL,
and there are calls, certainly that was passing interference and
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with disputing that, but every referee and every officials, the referee,
every official calls again differently, and yes, there is a
textbook rule of what he's passing interference, and what is not.
But some cruise call things will call everything, and some
crews let them play a little bit. I don't want
to take that out of the game. Is that hypocritical
of me? No, I you know, to some extent, I agree,
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because when we were growing up, we used to say,
they can call holding on every play on the offense.
But what's gotten even stranger is this contact beyond five yards?
Because I don't think there's a play in the NFL
with as with as not contact beyond five yards. Okay,
so it always seems like, you know, I figured that
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the players may understand what they call, they don't call.
I my favorite thing is, you know, you watch them
knock the guy out of bounds or in the back
of the end zone. He can't come back in and
catch the ball. Well, he didn't get there by himself.
But so there has to be contact beyond five yards.
So that's never called and called incidental. I mean, this
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was blatant on national television, and it's going to become
a bigger and bigger story. I heard today that certain people,
certain of the gambling sites, are refunding the Saints players
money because based on the call that they there have
been a few STA point that was doing that. Yeah,
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a few sites. So that kind of means that we're
I mean, we're in this strange time now with gambling
going legal in a bunch of different states and the
integrity of the games becoming so important. Um that it's
it's it's it's it's interesting. And now what happens is
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there are two weeks of unintentional bias saying that the
wrong teams in the super Bowl, so we really don't
want the Rams to win, and you know, you you
laugh that off and everybody's watching. But there are economists
that say that the reason the home field is so
significant is the unintentional bias of referee captured into the moment.
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And I completely understand that. I actually, along the same lines,
was showing my fiance just two weeks ago in college basketball,
when you were at a whole arena, the referee with
the in fact charge call or the blocking call, when
you're in the whole arena and they're pumping up, they're
pubbing up the crowd when it's the other way, they
certainly aren't as demonstrative which that charge. I think you
see the same thing. Um, No, hope field advantage in
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other sports. Now, of course this went against the Saints
yesterday in their home on their homes ear if so,
you're not necessarily calling that out, But I don't know
necessarily the best way um to fix something that happened yesterday.
The guy missed the call. That that's it. He missed
the call, and unfortunately it happens again. I do point
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out even though they would have won the game, and
should have won the game, they had the ball first
and overtimes, the interception, their offensive line didn't block, guys
got in space, heaved up a prayer that his arm
got hit, and they lost it at all. But the
NFL has been a reactionary league. I mean, yes and no.
If you remember last year, the well, the two most
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common changes people wanted to see. Where was the catch
role which wordship was? Was changed? It for apply officers
crazy like a catch that in the Super Bowl that
would not have counting three weeks earlier accounting fine needed
to happen. And I think you know, honestly, nobody really
questioned the catch this year, like it worked whatever they did.
The second thing that they didn't change doc which happened
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several times last year, was the running back were a
UM ball carrier reaching over the goal line, losing the
ball at the goal line and going out of the
end zone for a touchback. We saw that often last year,
and we thought that was going to be a rule
that was changed it and ultimately it never happened. So
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while they are reactionary usually, at least last year, we
didn't necessarily see that they're going to be reactionary this year. Okay, okay,
they're gonna be a reactionary this year. And I think
it's going to be kind of interesting because you know,
one thing is if you becoming the head of the
refereence is now becoming like a white house cabinet post
where you used the post and then you write go
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to the media. Then you go to the media and
you'd be come like and you can't blow a call
on the media because you know, you become the expert
like Dean Blandino, and before him it was my pain
and stuff like that. So I think what's happened is
some of the more experienced people have moved on and
I think they have to get control of this um.
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And I think that it was really out there and
having what everybody in this country perceives. You are more
understanding than most the wrong team and it's not my
team either, but and you know what, the way Peyton
played it, you know, you can almost argue that he
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deserved it. I mean there was just after you know,
the duck flies and it comes down in Gin's hand,
and that past should have been intercepted. And let's face it,
as great as he's been and we've discussed this, Drew
Brees does not seem capable of throwing the long past.
He missed several posts in the in the UM game
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against UM Philadelphia where he just couldn't reach the player,
and the one long pass that he threw was absolutely,
you know, dreadful. It just landed in Ted Gin's hands UM,
and I think that that's really interesting. But then that happens.
You have a minute fifty eight to go, they have
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two time outs. Okay, you run the ball, You run
the ball, and then you run the ball, and then
there's fifty seconds left, they have no timeouts, and you
kick the field goal. There is no way. And then
when you throw it on first down, now you have
to play for the touchdown because you're gonna leave them
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a minute forty because they can stop the clock. So
that to me was crazy and as I mentioned mcphag
not going for it and giving them the chance to
march down the field with that much clock and never
see the ball again. You know, you have to go
for it at fourth and a half a yard um.
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First of all, I thought he got a rough spot.
I thought it was a little bit closer, but he
could he you know, and you have to go for it.
Worse comes to worse. Your defense is has them at
the one yard line. It's it's not like you're giving
them the ball at the yardline. And you know, I
just see that as being an absolute no brainer that
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you had to go for it at that point in time. Yeah.
I And it's so weird because with so McVeigh in particular,
like he got nervous. He got nervous, That's exactly what
it was. He got nervous because he's he's you know,
he's been at the forefront right of this, we're gonna
go front every fourth down type of thing when it's
fourth and inch years, fourth and one year to do it.
And Doug Peterson last year his credit coach the same Wayack,
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you know, doing every single time. Okay, you know it's probability, okay,
and then you know it's it's very interesting. A lot
of econom economist and probability people have looked at sports.
There's nothing to icing the kicker, you know, in terms
of probability. I know it worked supposedly in the in
the Bears game, but kickers do missfield goals whether you
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ice them or you don't ice them. Um. But I
mean this was really really simple probability. And then you know,
it's interesting about the second game, which was a tremendous
game but anti climatic because you wanted Mahomes to get
the ball, ok right, right? And what's really interesting is
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you have a DeFord finger off sides or are we
talking about Tom Brady had thrown three interceptions or that's
completely true, completely completely accurate. Absolutely. You know, it just
goes to show you how fine the line is now
d Ford uh speaking of him being off slight up
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off sides, um, and he read came out today it
was like, yeah, he was all sized. I can't dispute
that fact. Um. Normally, the referees do let you know, hey,
you let me hey be careful. At least it's like
a warning and the second thing is was fatigue in
that you know it's tired, but and you read gets
three overtime time outs, man, you can call one of them. Yeah. Well,
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you know I was watching the game with my my
when my friend's sons who was saying, he's got to
call time out, He's got to stop this right now. Um.
It really goes to show how these guys are taken
by at the moment and in just like everybody else,
everybody screaming. But you know, when it came down to it,
with sixteen ready to go bankrupt, you McVeigh held he
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wasn't gonna risk busting and you know it was exactly
the analogy, even though he knew the probability, has said
he wasn't gonna bust. Yeah, I mean, I think that
that was stunning to me. As I said, John Peter
seemed over the last two years this coach. The first
game that he coached the Super Bowl, the same way,
and he was gonna be aggressive. And Sean m is
always aggressive. I mean the the earlier in the game, right,
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like that fake punt at that time was very aggressive.
It's fourth and inches for the game. It worked out,
obviously they won their in the Super Bowl, But who
an inches for the game? What are you doing? You
to play scared? Now? He shouldn't have gotten the ball back.
He should not have He should not have gotten the
ball back, and then we would It's so funny more
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so and I can't answer the fact because this is
the first playoffs that I've ever done a a a
sports show. But it's amazing. How you know, if things
went in terms of the way you would think they
would go, what we would be talking about today? Okay,
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what would we be talking about today? If you know,
Peyton plays it out, we'd be talking about and it
goes predictably. We talked about how McVeigh would have gone
for it. No one has mentioned that at all, not
at all. Okay, what would we be talking about today
if d Ford wasn't offsides that Brady through three interceptions
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includn't one including one of the end zone, which was
a bad interception. That was that was a bad bad interception.
I mean the last one, you know, he he did
overthrow that Edelman tip ball, you know, on the second one, right,
I guess it could have been a great catch, but
the ball was thrown a little bit high. And the
last one really was hard to put any fault on him.
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That was you your classic tipped interception. But think about
how the dialogue would have been different. Then take another
step back. It is absolutely amazing that the Patriots are
here and favorites in the super Bowl again. And because
when you look at who they have out there, Okay,
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who they have at there, it's just you would say
they have no speech. How does Edelman get open everything
every single third down? And you know, if it's that
good to have a break for two, you know either way,
can the Giants please put Odell Beckham in the slot
and let him go both ways? Yeah? I mean, because
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you just see Edelman find the weak spot every single time.
Then you know one of the players of all time
was that was the greatest errisonce Bill Buckner. You know
that ball and it actually didn't touch him, you know,
he just when his hands went through that, you know,
that was just absolutely amazing. There was another amazing use
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of replay at that point. I don't know how it
doesn't touch him. It was it looked like to the
to the live I it looked like a change direction.
They nailed him. And then Jim Antony when we're laughing
like he say he didn't touch him, and he's doing
I'm like, oh my god, maybe you didn't touch him.
That was absolutely unbelievable, and Hogan's catch was a resolutely
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unbelievable you know. But more importantly, they went out and
they had a great game plan. They were going to
obviously shorten the game. If you watch the first half
and you bet Under you thought you were in great shape.
I don't think you ever thought you were going to
lose that, you know, over under game, and you know,
give Kansas City credit. They made a lot of plays.
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It looked like, you know, again you get to replay
and you know, we we we speak about the New
Orleans same game. It looked to me like the Sammy
Watkins play and the other touchdown to walk up, they
both looked like they were legal picks to me. I
mean that they didn't really show very much about that.
You know, the players when Mahomes ran to the to
the other side, they both looked like pick plays to me. Yeah,
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I mean they were. They're all this, it's all the same,
and it's all holding on every play. You could call
it pick play on every play. That's their fears on
every play. That's why it kind of brings his a
full circle bit. You can't really do much with the rafts,
like what are you going to do? Out? So I
mean that's the real question is is this reactionary Monday?
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Or what happens? Right? Okay? Is you know what's going
to happen? Does the overtime rule? Does the overtime rule change?
Should we not be deciding this on a coin to us?
Some people say that everybody should get the ball, but okay,
so so New England's scores, Kansas City scores, then New
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England scores. There's still an advantage to the coin toys
if you have a non defensive game. Yes, fine, But
I am of the believe I am on that standing.
I talked about this earlier as well. The NFL. The
reason they have the ot rules the way they are
because defense is a part of the game. Events does matter,
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and they have four third downs on that play on
that dry rather guess once one time they would have
gone for it, not a fourth and ten. I don't
think they do. The fourth and ten. I don't know
that they go for it. It depends on where it
depends any any anywhere, certainly anywhere less anywhere south, anywhere
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south of midfield. Yes, you think absolutely. I mean I
I think that. I think that, you know, he didn't
think that they were going to stop them, and at
least from getting three, you know, don't forget once once
to change of possession, three wins the game. I think
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that he would have had the attitude Brady's my best player.
I'm gonna lose with my best player. He certainly may have,
But if you're the Chiefs, you gotta put Belichick in
that position to make a decision, and he didn't four
different times Edelman, Edelman, Gronk and Hogan. So if I
asked you, what's more likely the replay rules changed or
the overtime rule change, you'd try to replay rule today.
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She's one of them, Yes, and how does that change?
Pass interference can be chan lounged. I mean, this was
in the last two minutes anyway, so it went to
make a difference of challenge. So I don't I don't,
I don't, I don't think. I don't think league office
has a right to call down and any agreedious call. Yes,
I think that's what it has to be. I would say,
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I would I would say this what they would do
is inside the last two minutes of a game, only
the league office has the ability to call down to
the referee and have them re look at something. And
do you think you know, people talked about the college rule,
which I absolutely hate, each team get theline. But I
think you're gonna see in the next few years the
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overtime rule change. We saw it, you know, we saw
it recently with the change where each team gets a
shot um unless a touchdown. Yeah, that was a great
rule change. I thought, I don't know that you're gonna
see it sweet so soon. I don't know that. I
think they like what they have. I think they buy
into defense, and they'll rationalize that that the Rams didn't
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have the ball first and one exactly, so we went
one and one, so it was fair, right, which is
what it should be. Right. Well, you know, the truth
of the matter is, if you had a real win
and and the defensive game, it may be advantageous to
pin people back and and and and and have the
short of field assuming but those days are over long over.
People say that, you know, there's there's no truth to
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defense wins championships. Um, is there no truth to that?
I understand why they say that, but I got at
know if that's fair. Right, Like with Seattle one, which
is not that long ago, like that was a defense
win championship. When the Roncos won, that was a defense
wins championship. So I wouldn't say that it's dead. I'd
say right now today, this is obviously the season of
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This is the season of offense and the high octane offenses.
You're going to see a defense do very very well well.
You also, you you also put into play most of
these big games, especially super Bowls in nice weather, not
always but dome settings, which you know, usually set themselves
up to more of an offensive show, right. I mean,
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of course, you know. One of the things that I
was thinking about watching the league this year is and
there was a very you know, scary article in I
think ESPN Plus saying that the biggest risk to football
is that, you know, the insurance side, and something that
doctors would understand, with malpractice and negligence insurances, that there's
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becoming a real difficulty getting insurance for football at virtually
every level, and they're going to be very few companies
writing it with all the concussion stuff going up. What's
interesting is I actually do think that big injuries were
down this year. I know there was Jimmy Garoppolo, but
if you think about Jack McKinnon as well on the
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same team and Alex Smith, you know, which was a terrible,
terrible injury. But by and largely put these rules in
place because they wanted to have Breeze Brady mahomes Off
standing upright at the end. And they were you know,
most teams made it through the season with the starting
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quarter if they wanted to. Okay, if they wanted to,
they you know, I know, Cam Newton has had problems,
had problems. Aaron Rodgers was banged up as well. I mean,
it's it's still a physical game. But don't get me wrong,
we're not They're not playing. But more so, I think
more of the stars were on the field, you know
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it then than in the past, which I think they
think is a good relatively good sign. I think they
I agree with that. I think they like that too.
I think that you bring up the quarterbacks and you
have to wonder or if you're gonna make passing reference
reviewables roughing the past are going to be one of
those reviewable plays as well. I mean the one on
Brady was was absolutely horrible. Basically, well, I'm just as
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close as I am to you as I close. It
was the head, you know, and but you know that
I it was were watching the game, um, and you
know it was some of the things that Tony Romo
said were great, like when when Gronk was was split
out wide to the left and he told told you
exactly where Eric Barry was and that Bradys Reid was
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to go amazing. That wasn't that terrific? Yep, that was
absolutely terrific television. Um. But you know the I think
it was Dan Blandino said, you can't anticipate the call
and with roughing the passer and something like that, that's
outside play. You gotta be goddamn sure. He was Jeane
Sterotoor who also was a college Big ten referee, but
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it retired from that this year for the first time. Yeah,
and and according to my friend, he was a great referee. Really, Yeah,
he said Jean was a great referee. It's cool. I
like to hear that. Yeah, he said. Jean was let
him play, would talk, would let you balk at him
to a certain point when you would when when he
had enough, he would tell you he was done. Um,
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but he was you see. And this is the problem
with replay, is that good referees goal was to allow
the players to decide the game. Now, and that's interesting
because I spoke a lot about this last week, and
I spoke about this today. The referees that reffed yesterday's game,
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we're Bill Vanovic and Clip Blakeman. It was the first
time that a non Super Bowl referee referee twice in
the postseason in many, many years. How it normally works
as you have your wild your four run for the
wild Card, your four cruise, four cruise for the next weekend,
and one of those crews refs the Super Bowl, in
the divisional round, the conference championships, and normally your second
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and third ranked refereeing and their crew. But because he
had avoid so many new refs this year and trusted
certain guys so much more, both Vinevich and Blakeman referee
both in the wild card round and in this round.
Most surprised that Vinevich is one of these guys because
he refereed more Sunday night football games the season than
anyone has ever rested a single season. Now, a couple
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of those were flexed brought a couple of those where
we wanted our best out there. Blakeman is another guy
that was constantly seen on Sunday Night Football. They believe
the NFL that Blakeman and Vanovich were two of their
best referees. And I'm sure the cruise that they wrote
with them this weekend, we're the best, absolute best that
they had. Vidovich and his crew, by the way, called
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less penalties than any other crew this season. The NFL
like them because he let them play. What you saw
yesterday in that Rams game was mostly the referees letting
them play. With the game on the line and the
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Rams making a close hit, they let him play. And
then and then you know, you forget that the because
he threw the interception the first play of overtime, they
called pass interference to correct that, your make up call.
And I said that, and Judy, we're watching this game,
and Judy was as past interference, it's called a make
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up call. Exactly what it was. It was right, it
was past interference. Was it nearly as egregious as we
saw ten minutes earlier? No? Is it one of those
places that could have been called on every single down. Yes,
there's a make up call. But you're in a dangerous
play because you see, I've been less when before anybody
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wants everything reviewed, Go a watch a college football game
and it takes takes forever. But b go watch a
Major League baseball game from two to nine seventy five.
That was two hours and twenty minutes, and basically you
were taught that you couldn't walk your way around the basis. Now, honestly,
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the major leagues has become more like Little League, where
you're taking a goddamn strike in the games of three
and a half hours. And honestly, unless you're a fan
of a team or a complete fantasy sports junkie, most
games are becoming unwatchable unless you vested. You know, the
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NFL for everything, we can say, it was very very watchable.
It moved along. There were two overtime games. Be careful
for what you which wish for because you may get it,
and I don't know if that makes the product. I mean,
remember when replay first came out and we had the
commercials about the zebras underneath the hood and it took
three minutes and stuff like that. Now they've gotten it
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much much better. But if you stop stopping it all
the time, and then on replay everything looks like pass
interference and then and that's that's my biggest concern because
we sound hypocritical. When you talk to co choosing, they
tell you what makes a good referee. It's not that
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they call everything. It's that they're consistent and that the
players know what they're gonna call and what they're not
going to call, and they call it the same way
for both teams. And you want it fair for both teams,
when unfortunately you have something that is as egregious what
took place last night. This is not that easy. Annoyingly,
it's just it's simply not that easy. But as you said,
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Patriots are back fifth super Bowl in the last six years,
three in a row. And as I said this afternoon,
it's amazing that it is the same quarterback and the
same coach that started this thing eighteen years ago. Were
seventeen years ago, right, seventeen years ago, we're talking about
Mashall Falk and Kurt Warner and Kurt Warner, Tory Holt
and Isaac Bruce with coach by Dick formal against Brady
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and Belichick. And we're so far past that era. Of
Rams football. It's incredible. I mean it was a city
ago number one, number two. They've gone through Mike mars Uh,
the Jeff Fisher era, quarterback hell, quarterback purgatory. Now they're
back in the super Bowl. Forget about it, think about
it somewhere else. They started as a primarily defensive team
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back in that day, to some extent, Richards Seemour, Rodney Harrison,
you know, Brady him eliminated picking Brady instead of Drew
brid Bledsoe because he felt he made less mistakes. You know,
that was really the the you know, at the beginning,
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you know, I'm not gonna I'm gonna use a terrible
word that Brady at Belichick considered Brady a very good
game manager to okay, and nobody, nobody remembers that. And
then you go to the Randy Moss era where that
was actually the most explosive team, the team that lost
to the Giants. You know, if there wasn't Eli Manning,
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you know, for getting in the Giants, and we give
Eli too much right up at the Giants, I mean,
think about what their legacy it would even be greater.
Then you have the two tight ends, you know, with
Aaron Hernandez and Gronk and then you go back. Now
you come to this team which is very, very different,
and you know, you know, I know, everybody lays their
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eggs and has their bad games, but if you watch
this team played Tennessee, Okay, and they're a well coached team,
they were got awful. They were slow. You watched them
played Detroit, they were blown off the ball. It's absolutely amazing.
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You know that they came in and to do what
they did and you know, they kept Kansas City and
check and you know, I thought their game plan was
masterful to shorten the game and that was what they
you know that they wanted to do. They wanted to
be in a close game in the fourth quarter and
figured week, we're going to find a way to win it,
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because we usually do, except against the Eagles and the Giants.
And it's amazing because bettors and fans are always just
like always lean towards the Patriots because they say, it's
the Patriots and they'll figure it out, and they do.
More often they not, they do. They let offensive lineman
after offensive lineman go. Nate Solder becomes the highest paid
left tackle the time in the history of the NFL
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and they bring a guy that they traded for in
the third round. They traded fourth third round pick with
San Francisco Slays are left tackle and here they are
now they Scaria has Tom Brady up he touched yesterdays
are besides the roughing the pastor where he wasn't touched,
which you know. Again, what's interesting though, is that they
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played the game exactly the way what they wanted to
play it because Kansas City is to some extent more
modern day version of the Peyton Manning Indianapolis, meaning that
they have a offense that's supposed to score is supposed
to from a head, and then their team is based
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on speed rush from the outside. It takes off because
you can see you off you're playing from the head.
The Giants always got into Brady because they put Tuck
in the middle and they got a center rush, which again,
if they get a decent referee. I hate to say that,
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but in the dominant Sue and Donald being defensive tackle
is a very good type of matchup because I think
that you beat the Patriots up the middle, and I
actually think that's you know, I began to mention this
last week on on on last week's show, I think
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that with the run pass options, I said that Quentin
Williams is the perfect player. I think that the Vince
Wolf folks that stand up the line aren't going to
be as valuable as the A three defensive tackle that
can split the gaps, because I think everything has been
designed with that weakness in the middle, and the way
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to to beat all of these things is penetration up
the middle. So I think, you know, we go went
through the Lawrence Taylor where the typical rush was from
the outside. I think now we're going to see the
re emergence of the Alan Pages of the world. Really
dating myself, one thing we have not talked about yet.
Doc goes back to the other game with the Saints
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and the Rams, and that's Todd Gurley, who had more
carries yesterday were touches yesterday started the game of the
first two drives dropped too bad, too bad balls that
you only hurt right there? Yeah, well again, Girls is
good a player as there is in the NFL. I mean,
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he's been terrific in the year, and if he's not hurt,
you would tend to believe that Jean McVeigh would just
keep feeding him because you know, cream always surfaces. Wood
are always hits its level. So by and large, you
you would take a short sample and make it make decisions.
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I don't believe that coaches believe in hot hands as
much like C. J. Anderson has a hot hand. You know,
there's a reason why c. J. Anderson has been cut
by two NFL teams and Todd Gurley coming off knee surgery,
was the fourth pick in the draft, So you would
just keep on feeding him. I mean, you know, take
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it home right now, Barkley is not hurt as drops
three passes. Do you think that Wayne Gauman is better
in his dreams? Or you just hope that Barkley wakes up?
You just hope that Barkley wakes up. You're not going
to take a small sample size. These guys didn't get
where they are because they're dumb. So the only thing
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that makes sense is that he has niece, sir, He's
got you know, he's he's got a stable anterior crucier.
They wouldn't take a chance of that. But he's got
some sort of cautlage injury that he's playing through the pain,
and if they scope him, he would miss the playoffs.
And they're hoping the inflammation goes down and that he
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can play in the super Bowl. But there's just no way.
If he's right, you wouldn't feed him. I'd like to think,
I'd like to agree, right, I'm just very surprised and shocked.
And he only is he looks fine to me, like
he looks he seems fine. And but you know, that's
the difference between the difference between people, and and that's
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what's so remarkable when you see like some of the
runs that Barkley made or Michael Vick going back when
when it looked like a video game. I mean, these
are the greatest athletes in the world. I mean, these
these these guys are running for at three four four
And when these guys make them look like you know,
people who are playing two hand touch, it's just absolutely amazing.
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So that fine difference is enough. And if you're running
just a little bit, yeah, you wouldn't pick it up.
But there's just no way. And you know something, they
just signed him for big money, and there's just no
way he wouldn't be saying, you know, let's let's let's
let's let's let's take another example, James Harden and It's
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interesting the Nets played to one fifty what was that
one hundred and six three pointers? Um, let's say James
Harden misses his first twelve shots, Okay, okay, and we're
in game seven, okay, so we saw that last game seven?
Is he still on the court at the end because
you feed the monster and you hope it changes, You
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know that that that's based. But do you think it's
bad for basketball? What's going on? My friends said that, right.
Franzesla was the one that said the NBA is dying.
Ever thought I'd see the death of a sport in dead? Well,
he's out of his more. NBA has never been hotter.
It's the sport of the NBA. You know again, it's
it's I hope that mentally and emotionally, I never get
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old and have sour grapes. You know when people tell
tell people that, you know, the music when I was
growing up was great, you know, and stuff like that,
and and and and and you have people who do
this is called sour grapes, and that the best players
played when when when when they were my friends type
of deal. And you know, this is like the anti
new type stuff. The NBA has never been hotter. I
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I've said this. My my dad explained this to me,
who was in broadcasting. Radio made baseball great game listen
to you had great announces that could paint the picture.
Television made football because the stoppage of play and started
with the Baltimore Coach Giants Championship game. But football with
its stoppages is an absolutely eight great sport or television,
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it just is perfect. You have just the right amount
of time out, you can eat, you can go to
the bathroom. It's a perfect television sport. Absolutely. If television
had a design a sport, it would be football. The
internet and streaming is perfect for the NBA because they've
marketed their stars are the greatest athletes in the world.
You can see them. They're not wearing helmets, they're not
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wearing different things. You see them flying through the air.
It has also become, probably with the exception of soccer
or you know or or or what people would call
real football, the most international sport in the world. So
if you want to buy stock in a sport, I
think basketball would be the one you'd be buying. I
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think everybody agrees with that, right. I don't think you're
going out going out on a limb of any sort
by suggesting that I just think that the NBA is
figured it out. They have figured out what how how
to best utilize a phone and share everything. Well, the
NFL and the MLV are are archaic. Have too many
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Mike Francises, have too many Mike francis Is. You know,
they they they they don't understand your generation, Okay, and
they you know this is you know this, this is happening,
you know, in a lot of different fields. And you're
going to see and and and what's what's amazing to
(40:31):
me is that you know, you still have seventy five
year olds running for president, whether it's Joe Biden, you
know people, I think that, you know, young people should
want young blood instead of the same generation that's taken
everything from them. Yeah. There, there's absolutely no way. Um,
there's no way that they're going to be able just
(40:52):
snap a finger and just change that. It's not gonna happen.
They need they need more players the NFL, for instance,
like Mahomes, you guys that ILK that that get it.
I think, Yeah, I mean, you know, Kyler Murray will
be fun watch. I mean that's what it would be
really really really exciting by the way. You know, I've
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been thinking about it. You know, it's interesting that one
of the reasons people gave a gettleman being fired was
that he wasn't loyal to the Carolina players that he
was Belichick I in and I think all of the
quiet around the Giants means that he's moved on. Maybe
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I'm wrong. I think that if they were going to
bring Eli back as the man, they'd be creating this
big type of smoke screen and stuff like that, and
they are very, very very very quiet. I think that
noise will pick up after the Super Bowl, when all
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we have to look towards is free agency. Of course,
Jacksonville tires John D. Felippo as her off as a coordinator.
So everybody thinks Nick Foles. Everybody think nicks folon, Nick
Foles headed there? Do you um? You know, I think
the Nick Foles situation is is interesting. Number One, I
think Philadelphia has to get rid of him or else
they'll have a quarterback controversy. And hear that Wentz is
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definitely there man on the other hand, and you know,
I think they would be if they tag him, they
run the risk of everybody saying, fine, if I'm in
the NFL and they tag him, I say, okay, now
you've vested million in the quarterback position, go field the team,
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you know. So, I mean, I think that's a risk.
So I think that they shake his hand and let
him make the best deal possible. Um. And I think
that Jacksonville's a reasonable landing spot for him. I mean,
I think that the Giants would talk to him. UM.
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But I think that, you know, I think there are
several several I think Denver potentially. Now. The only other
possibility is that Folds decides he likes his job. And
you know, he seems to be a different sort of
person that he might. But this is so crazy for
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a guy like Nick Foles to like his job. You're
making millions of dollars, I mean, more money than you'll
ever need. Right, You've won a super Bowl, You've done
it all. You can make a very nice living on
that clipboard and if they need you, you're there. If not, okay, well,
the wrong that there's nothing wrong with that. I think
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it's really just hot around costs and went. So I
think I don't think they're going to give him that.
I agree with you. I agree with you too many.
Health is a tough town. It's not worth it's not
worth it. It's it's it's not worth it. It's a
tough town. But on the other hand, Cossing Wentz has
never stayed healthy, and you know he's we left him
off at the quarterbacks that got hurt. He's very very
(44:03):
much upright. You know, he's an incredible athlete, um, but
he takes a lot of hits. He may have a
little bit of what we talked about with Robert Griffith.
You know, he doesn't know how to protect his body
that well. So I figure it out. Yeah, he better
figure it out because he's a big talking Now. Roethlisberger
has taken a beating through his career, much greater beating
(44:26):
than say Manning, definitely, you know, through his through his career. Um.
But no, I I do not. I think the Giants
are going to only have Eli Manning and Alex Tanney
at the quarterback position next year. I'm quite sure you're
right about that. College basketball exactly where I was headed. Next,
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the Duke Blue Devils fell, and of course they fall
to Syracuse, who every year has that one win and
everyone they're always in the bubble, everyone freaks out. They
always make it. Jim Behead stops his fiends, I guess
what he wants. On are always trouble in the tournament
because no one knows how to play against their own
And that win against Duke put it right back where
they always are, and it's the most frustrating thing in
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the world. Doc and someone has no interest in seeing
Syracuse and Jim Beehind crying like a baby again, Well,
did you I watched that overtime in that game. I
did not watch it. I watched the overtime. I didn't
see the whole game. And now by the time I
was watching, Trey Jones got hurt and they made it
very early on and they could not do a thing
in overtime. And then I watched the Virginia game, and
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first of all, the Duke athletes a better suited for
the NBA. Sure, definitely, There's there's no question about it.
So this is not a knock on a up and
down game. Zion Williamson goes to the hoop incredibly well,
both hands incredibly well. He can't shoot straight, you know,
(45:55):
which is something he has to work on. Barrett is
not a great shooter. At the present time, very nice
player as well, but Duke can't shoot it. So there
are twenty teams in the country that can beat Duke
in the n C. First of all, I would say
the you know, we we talked about the Big Ten
going eight and nine. D I'm not Duke can beat
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every single team in the Big Ten, don't get me wrong.
But the first eight nine teams on their night can
can beat Duke as well. So you you have tremendous parity.
You know, Virginia who was undefeated, really you know, Duke
played very very good defense, and the kid died and
shoot the ball real well, hit a big shot at
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the end. But they didn't look unbeatable by any stretch
of the imagination either. So I think that just like
we talked about parody, I think you really have a
lot of parody in college basketball. You you saw, as
we said, Duke one of those teams that fell. Much
of the top five fell last week, with Kansas falling,
(46:58):
Virginia falling, in Michigan falling as well. We know a
lot about the Big Tend, both both you and I
and the Big Tend. It's as good as I've seen it. Actually,
um A very long time. And each of these teams
can be each of these teams. What I'm saying to
the top of the especially and the A C C
is pretty much the pretty much the same. But you
know what, I on a neutral site, Okay, Maryland can
(47:20):
beat Duke absolutely, Okay, I will compet Duke if they
shoot it well. I mean, you know, you know, they're
gonna have trouble with with with speed and and it
depends on how these games are called, you know, to
to some extent, you know, if they you know, teams
like I will live on the foul line and and
and and and stuff like that. Duke is not a
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great shooting team, so Beheim zone the two three, which
was designed against bad shooting teams, which is a tougher
defense to play right now, because most teams shoot the
three so well, right, I mean, the two three was
designed to pack it back and make people shoot. Okay, Now,
if you make shots, you're gonna beat the zone. Now.
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What's hard against Duke's athletes in the zone. And this
is where Syracuse has an advantage and it's not so
simple for everyone else to play zone, is that Beeheim
recruits for the zone. Okay, so The hottest thing or
most college teams that switch defenses is a they can
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give up the long shot and then rebounding out of
the zone. So you know they Syracuse has that center
and length and they rebound out of the zone better
than other teams because they play it consistently. Most teams
really struggle against Stuke's athletes because if you're coming in
and playing Duke, you would definitely zone them because they
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can't shoot straight. Okay, but your problem is going to
be they're going to crash the boards. Zion read it.
And these guys are athletes like you can't imagine. And
Bolton's an athlete too. They're gonna crash the boards and
you may not be able to rebound, and that's where
they kill you. That is where they kill you. And
that's they they will be, no matter where they're ranked.
The number the favorite betting favorite to win it all, well,
(49:10):
I would take I would take the field, take the field.
I take the field. Hand. Now, the real bet I
believe is what's going on. What is going on in
here is um Duke. It's Duke Gonzaga, Kansas versus the field, right,
I think I think that's that I would take field
to too. I think that you you know, the difference
(49:33):
between the top five and ten to twenty five is
smaller than any time in my life. Well that's what
I was saying that, but at least at the big
time of the a SEC the top of the bottom. Okay,
Michigan State Maryland tonight tonight. I mean, you know, Michigan
State ranked Maryland's thirteenth in the country. Yeah, and I
(49:54):
think that game is in. Michigan State is a nine
nine point favorite tonight. Michigan State plays very well at home, yeah,
you know, and and and they can and and you
know again that's that's the other thing that you don't
realize is that Maryland. You know, you have to two
parts of the big tent. Okay, you have Indiana, Michigan State, Michigan,
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Ohio State. Okay, then you have the other teams and
they have not yet learned their dudes. So Michigan State
at home, you're gonna really have to beat them. You're
talking about getting calls, You're not getting anything tonight. You're
gonna be you know, I hope that you have an
extra TV set, you know, at home, and your fiance
that he doesn't get mad at you when you break
the TV set after they like foul out like Darryl
(50:36):
Morsey and like you know, in the thirty fourth minute
if it's a place game. But you know, one of
my favorite story of the weekend, I have to talk about.
New York Times does an article about obesity in in
in NFL football players. And I've actually operated on some
in in in my time, and I think it's really
really kind of a very very interesting story. And it's
(50:57):
it's a question that I get a lot, like what
happens to the big offensive lineman that you see and
are they unhealthy and and and things like that, and
it's it's kind of interesting because we've seen a bunch
of them through the years, myself, my colleagues. There's been
some affiliation with the Jets, Atlantics, hill Um. Actually while
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they're playing, most of them are fairly healthy and don't
have any sign of metabolic disease. But this is really
the truth, big lineman when they retire, they either slim
down or they have many medical problems, including you know,
the running backs. And that's what the story was. And
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there's been a whole host of different things. While people
have talked about concussions. The amount of obesity, diabetes and
kidney disease and many of these people is astronomical and
probably a bigger problem then just the mental illness and
the concussions that have become you know, the things for
(52:02):
for for movies, um. And you realize that through these
kids lives, they've probably been taught to have absolutely no
dietary discretion whatsoever. Bigger was better, and it may not
even be true. And then then you have the other extremes.
So it's interesting nutritionally you have two types of athletes.
(52:24):
You have athletes like Sterling Shock and um Hurt Thomas
is another person that I met a few times that
look at their body as their cathedral. It's like your studio.
They take care of it like you know, anything they
put into it. They realize that this is the output
(52:46):
that I get. And then you have other athletes that
they have just been natural athletes and they don't equate
what they eat to their output because it's never made
a difference in their entire life. So you have Tom
Brady's and the TV that's absolutely obsessed and I think
much more on the right track, should be perfectly honest.
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And then you have people who are just in natural
athletes and possibly Edian McDonald's two hours before they Charles
Charles Barklay essentially, and they basically polarized both ways. And
I think that you know, in this country where obesity
is an epidemic, you know, we're not doing these people's services,
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especially we're looking at the NFL that wind up unhealthy.
But what happens to all the college kids doing this?
It's a great point. I think there's very few instances
because you don't see a lot of the offensive lineman
after they go away. Um, like David deals Annuncer, Right,
he's a big dude, he slim down, he looks great,
he does, but nobody Chris Snee lost a ton of way.
Chris Snel lost not away. And the one I'm leading
(53:50):
toward um is Nick Hardwick, who I I couldn't believe
it was the same guy where he was a longtime
center for Philip Rivers forever and this dude took beating
after beating and beating. He's a monster's human being of course, right,
he was a center and he retires kind of surprisingly.
People thought he'd come back, but he retires and then
he shows up in training camb a year later or
(54:12):
Opening Night or something like that. He was skinny as
I am. There's a holy crap, what happened in the
hardwag And he just like, you know, I stopped eating
like an idiot, and I knew I wasn't working out
as much as I was was as a professional athlete,
and I just like the way I felt. I don't
like how my body felt. And he's much much. That's
very very rare, and maybe certain pro athletes because they
(54:35):
have so much discipline and go ahead and do that,
but it's very very I'm looking at it now and
it's it's it's crazy. He it looks like totally even guy. Yeah,
it's but it's very very rare. Most kids who are
severely obese is adolescents going to be an obese adults.
This is the first generation that's going to not outlive
(54:58):
its predecessor several reasons. You know, it used to be
just obesity and diabetes. Now it's actually drug overdose as
well as being added into drug overdoses actually reach incoming
such a critical thing that it's actually reducing life expectancy.
Think about that, when there's so many people in the
United States it's really really chilling. But I think that,
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you know, in the high school level. I was just
watching like QB one UH, which is a Netflix show
about UH three quarterbacks Jake from Tate Mortal who just
transferred to the University of Miami, and actually he's trying
to get a oddship waiver so that he doesn't miss
(55:44):
a year. What do you think about that? Do you
think that a coaching change should qualify you for a
hardship No, I don't think you're qualifying you as a
harsh of river. But as coaches leave, anybody should the
ability to leave, right Why should the kid have to
sit out of you? It's ridiculous. I don't know. Hardship
waivers are right way they should handle it. But like
you want to leave, your coach left, leave even if
(56:05):
your coach doesn't leave. I mean, you know, even the
coach doesn't leave, You're right, he's not like the coach
with He's not even the coach leaves, there's a penalty
for him. You know. People people are upset that Jalen
Hurts is the greatest college free agent of all time. Well,
what is he all the University of Alabama or or
or or anybody else. He you know, he's they had
(56:25):
to get an education and part of it if he
can get a better opportunity. You know, the the alumni
is mad. It may hurt the sanctity of college football
and may hurt the ratings, but what is he vested in.
I'm with you. I completely agree with you. Yeah, I
it doesn't make anything. It doesn't make any sense. Um
(56:49):
that coaches can do it and players can't. Exactly stupid.
So you know, I think that he's he's you know,
I hope he gets it, not the least of words,
because I have to go down for like parents weekends
in my I mean, their quarterback play was absolutely horrific
this year, and maybe someone somewhat better. But you know,
what I think is that there has such an emphasis
in these high school programs in sports in general. But
(57:10):
I think that we really as a country, really have
to pay attention to nutrition and even at the and
really teach people that you know, what you put into
your body. It's like everything else. I mean, if you
had an aston Martin, you probably wouldn't be buying the
cheapest gas at the the you know, the worst gas
station in the entire world, and you know, what you
(57:31):
put in is what you're going to get out. And
I think that we have to start teaching athletes that
at a very young level, not just athletes, start teaching
all young people and old people the same, because I
don't want to operate on people. You know. It's like,
you know, I tell people that I'm very proud of
what I do taking care of and giving people back
their lifetamp, but no one wants their kids to require
(57:52):
bariatric surgery. Certainly not, certainly not. And um, you gotta
be careful. You gotta be careful what you put in there.
He's only one, you know. It's kind kind of interesting
and people ask all the time, and the NFL story
brought it into a sports light, and obviously this is
what I do. So it's it's interesting to talk about it.
But you know, it used to be like, if you
(58:13):
were middle class, you could send your kids to college,
you have enough money to retire, you know, potentially move
down south and and and you know, have a quality life.
And now you were saying that the middle class has disappeared.
The same thing has happened with obesity in this country.
Like if you just followed kind of the average it
(58:34):
should have taken you to reasonable health, but without food
supply being distorted and what we're eating being changed so rapidly,
if you just go with the flow, it actually takes
you towards obesity and diabetes. And that's really the very
scary of the issue, because if you just go with
the flow. Most people think, if they just stay in
the mainstream, maybe they won't be sterling Shaw, but they
(58:57):
won't be you know, you know the fridge e right, okay,
But the truth is that the the river's flowing more
towards the towards the fridge side, and that's issue. Do
you love the fridge though? Dr Mitchell Rosalind, This has
been a blast. As always, I learned so much as
I feel like I do each and every week. The
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Sauceman Doctor. Super Bowl is set the Rams and the Patriots.
The first time in eighteen years or so, these two
teams will go at it in the Super Bowl, two
overtime games coming out of conference championship Sunday. How are
you feeling? One word anti climatic and I climb mactic,
(00:44):
says the good doctor. How come well, I mean you
if you were a New Orleans Saint fan after the
Minnesota miracle and watching that non call and we'll go
back because they and one of the things is I
thought both coaches made very very big mistakes coming down
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the stretch. I was watching the game with my good
buddy Scottie Kellen. He's a professional backcamming player and thinks
about probability. He decides what's befet to go to in
the country club as to where you get the most
value play And Scott was jumping up and down when
when when McVeigh Showan McVeigh kicked the field goal to
tie instead of going to the win. He calculated that
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the Rams decreased their chance of winning that game by twelve.
And then you watch Shoan Peyton come down at the
end and Drew Bredes throws up at duck that lands
in in in in ted Gins hands. You're a one
and you're saying to yourself, I'm thinking, does it make
sense to allow them to score? To get the ball
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back and showan Payton goes and throws the ball, and
now you have to play for the touchdown because it's
the difference of getting the Rams getting the ball back
with a minute thirty are not And then you get
probably what people are saying is the worst non call
in football history, which would have ended the game for
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all intensive purposes. I guess they could have let them
score if they were stupid enough to do it. You
could have let them score. It could have missed a
field goal there, or a couple of other things that
had to happen. I also want to note were a
lot about this I mentioned earlier on Today and some
of our other shows, and that was the fact that yes,
they got screwed in a terrible non call, no doubt
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about it. They have the ball over time, just like
the Patriots did. Patris went down and scored, no problem.
Saints the interception, well, and that's the second thing that
was anti climatic because that was this. You know, I
think the probability states that the team that wins the
coin to US wins overtime games. But there are games
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in there are games, and you know, give the Patriots
credit for ground and pound in the first half. And
you know, I don't think I think everybody felt who
was watching that game, whoever won the toin t US
was gonna win that game. And at the you know,
the one chance they had is early once they got
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that first and second first down, and then Ogan makes
that absolutely amazing catch, and they probably would have gone
for it. I don't think Belichick would have ever let
them get the ball back except on downs. I agree
with you if Hogan, I agree with you, Hogan, Hogan
didn't didn't make that catch. But I mean, I think
that everybody watching that game wants Mahomes to get the ball.
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Where do we stand today? You know, is it going
to become like the college game where they're going to
review every play. I went to the University of Miami
game against Florida State I thought it was like gonna
end in next year. I thought I didn't need a
Sun dial by the time it ended because the college
games and now over four hours with this with the stoppage,
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which kind of gets a little bit unbearable. Yeah, and
as you know, a huge opponent of replay in general,
Like I think if we have the technology get it right,
we should always get it right. But I think that
always goes to extent. We talked about this with baseball
in that certainly when you're going down the first baseline
like it, there should be replay, Like if you're if
you beat of the ball in the bag, replay should
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verify that or tell you that you're wrong. When it
comes to balls and strikes, that is a subjective thing, right, Like, yes,
I know there's a strike zone, but that's relatively subjective,
and I never want instant replay to verify that or
cancel that out. And when it comes to the NFL,
and there are calls, certainly that was passing interference and
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with disputing that, but every referee and every officials, the referee,
every official calls again differently, and yes, there is a
textbook rule of what he's passing interference, and what is not.
But some cruise call things will call everything, and some
crews let them play a little bit. I don't want
to take that out of the game. Is that hypocritical
of me? No, I you know, to some extent, I agree,
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because when we were growing up, we used to say,
they can call holding on every play on the offense.
But what's gotten even stranger is this contact beyond five yards?
Because I don't think there's a play in the NFL
with as with as not contact beyond five yards. Okay,
so it always seems like, you know, I figured that
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the players may understand what they call, they don't call.
I my favorite thing is, you know, you watch them
knock the guy out of bounds or in the back
of the end zone. He can't come back in and
catch the ball. Well, he didn't get there by himself.
But so there has to be contact beyond five yards.
So that's never called and called incidental. I mean, this
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was blatant on national television, and it's going to become
a bigger and bigger story. I heard today that certain people,
certain of the gambling sites, are refunding the Saints players
money because based on the call that they there have
been a few STA point that was doing that. Yeah,
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a few sites. So that kind of means that we're
I mean, we're in this strange time now with gambling
going legal in a bunch of different states and the
integrity of the games becoming so important. Um that it's
it's it's it's it's interesting. And now what happens is
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there are two weeks of unintentional bias saying that the
wrong teams in the super Bowl, so we really don't
want the Rams to win, and you know, you you
laugh that off and everybody's watching. But there are economists
that say that the reason the home field is so
significant is the unintentional bias of referee captured into the moment.
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And I completely understand that. I actually, along the same lines,
was showing my fiance just two weeks ago in college basketball,
when you were at a whole arena, the referee with
the in fact charge call or the blocking call, when
you're in the whole arena and they're pumping up, they're
pubbing up the crowd when it's the other way, they
certainly aren't as demonstrative which that charge. I think you
see the same thing. Um, No, hope field advantage in
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other sports. Now, of course this went against the Saints
yesterday in their home on their homes ear if so,
you're not necessarily calling that out, But I don't know
necessarily the best way um to fix something that happened yesterday.
The guy missed the call. That that's it. He missed
the call, and unfortunately it happens again. I do point
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out even though they would have won the game, and
should have won the game, they had the ball first
and overtimes, the interception, their offensive line didn't block, guys
got in space, heaved up a prayer that his arm
got hit, and they lost it at all. But the
NFL has been a reactionary league. I mean, yes and no.
If you remember last year, the well, the two most
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common changes people wanted to see. Where was the catch
role which wordship was? Was changed? It for apply officers
crazy like a catch that in the Super Bowl that
would not have counting three weeks earlier accounting fine needed
to happen. And I think you know, honestly, nobody really
questioned the catch this year, like it worked whatever they did.
The second thing that they didn't change doc which happened
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several times last year, was the running back were a
UM ball carrier reaching over the goal line, losing the
ball at the goal line and going out of the
end zone for a touchback. We saw that often last year,
and we thought that was going to be a rule
that was changed it and ultimately it never happened. So
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while they are reactionary usually, at least last year, we
didn't necessarily see that they're going to be reactionary this year. Okay, okay,
they're gonna be a reactionary this year. And I think
it's going to be kind of interesting because you know,
one thing is if you becoming the head of the
refereence is now becoming like a white house cabinet post
where you used the post and then you write go
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to the media. Then you go to the media and
you'd be come like and you can't blow a call
on the media because you know, you become the expert
like Dean Blandino, and before him it was my pain
and stuff like that. So I think what's happened is
some of the more experienced people have moved on and
I think they have to get control of this um.
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And I think that it was really out there and
having what everybody in this country perceives. You are more
understanding than most the wrong team and it's not my
team either, but and you know what, the way Peyton
played it, you know, you can almost argue that he
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deserved it. I mean there was just after you know,
the duck flies and it comes down in Gin's hand,
and that past should have been intercepted. And let's face it,
as great as he's been and we've discussed this, Drew
Brees does not seem capable of throwing the long past.
He missed several posts in the in the UM game
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against UM Philadelphia where he just couldn't reach the player,
and the one long pass that he threw was absolutely,
you know, dreadful. It just landed in Ted Gin's hands UM,
and I think that that's really interesting. But then that happens.
You have a minute fifty eight to go, they have
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two time outs. Okay, you run the ball, You run
the ball, and then you run the ball, and then
there's fifty seconds left, they have no timeouts, and you
kick the field goal. There is no way. And then
when you throw it on first down, now you have
to play for the touchdown because you're gonna leave them
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a minute forty because they can stop the clock. So
that to me was crazy and as I mentioned mcphag
not going for it and giving them the chance to
march down the field with that much clock and never
see the ball again. You know, you have to go
for it at fourth and a half a yard um.
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First of all, I thought he got a rough spot.
I thought it was a little bit closer, but he
could he you know, and you have to go for it.
Worse comes to worse. Your defense is has them at
the one yard line. It's it's not like you're giving
them the ball at the yardline. And you know, I
just see that as being an absolute no brainer that
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you had to go for it at that point in time. Yeah.
I And it's so weird because with so McVeigh in particular,
like he got nervous. He got nervous, That's exactly what
it was. He got nervous because he's he's you know,
he's been at the forefront right of this, we're gonna
go front every fourth down type of thing when it's
fourth and inch years, fourth and one year to do it.
And Doug Peterson last year his credit coach the same Wayack,
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you know, doing every single time. Okay, you know it's probability, okay,
and then you know it's it's very interesting. A lot
of econom economist and probability people have looked at sports.
There's nothing to icing the kicker, you know, in terms
of probability. I know it worked supposedly in the in
the Bears game, but kickers do missfield goals whether you
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ice them or you don't ice them. Um. But I
mean this was really really simple probability. And then you know,
it's interesting about the second game, which was a tremendous
game but anti climatic because you wanted Mahomes to get
the ball, ok right, right? And what's really interesting is
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you have a DeFord finger off sides or are we
talking about Tom Brady had thrown three interceptions or that's
completely true, completely completely accurate. Absolutely. You know, it just
goes to show you how fine the line is now
d Ford uh speaking of him being off slight up
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off sides, um, and he read came out today it
was like, yeah, he was all sized. I can't dispute
that fact. Um. Normally, the referees do let you know, hey,
you let me hey be careful. At least it's like
a warning and the second thing is was fatigue in
that you know it's tired, but and you read gets
three overtime time outs, man, you can call one of them. Yeah. Well,
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you know I was watching the game with my my
when my friend's sons who was saying, he's got to
call time out, He's got to stop this right now. Um.
It really goes to show how these guys are taken
by at the moment and in just like everybody else,
everybody screaming. But you know, when it came down to it,
with sixteen ready to go bankrupt, you McVeigh held he
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wasn't gonna risk busting and you know it was exactly
the analogy, even though he knew the probability, has said
he wasn't gonna bust. Yeah, I mean, I think that
that was stunning to me. As I said, John Peter
seemed over the last two years this coach. The first
game that he coached the Super Bowl, the same way,
and he was gonna be aggressive. And Sean m is
always aggressive. I mean the the earlier in the game, right,
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like that fake punt at that time was very aggressive.
It's fourth and inches for the game. It worked out,
obviously they won their in the Super Bowl, But who
an inches for the game? What are you doing? You
to play scared? Now? He shouldn't have gotten the ball back.
He should not have He should not have gotten the
ball back, and then we would It's so funny more
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so and I can't answer the fact because this is
the first playoffs that I've ever done a a a
sports show. But it's amazing. How you know, if things
went in terms of the way you would think they
would go, what we would be talking about today? Okay,
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what would we be talking about today? If you know,
Peyton plays it out, we'd be talking about and it
goes predictably. We talked about how McVeigh would have gone
for it. No one has mentioned that at all, not
at all. Okay, what would we be talking about today
if d Ford wasn't offsides that Brady through three interceptions
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includn't one including one of the end zone, which was
a bad interception. That was that was a bad bad interception.
I mean the last one, you know, he he did
overthrow that Edelman tip ball, you know, on the second one, right,
I guess it could have been a great catch, but
the ball was thrown a little bit high. And the
last one really was hard to put any fault on him.
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That was you your classic tipped interception. But think about
how the dialogue would have been different. Then take another
step back. It is absolutely amazing that the Patriots are
here and favorites in the super Bowl again. And because
when you look at who they have out there, Okay,
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who they have at there, it's just you would say
they have no speech. How does Edelman get open everything
every single third down? And you know, if it's that
good to have a break for two, you know either way,
can the Giants please put Odell Beckham in the slot
and let him go both ways? Yeah? I mean, because
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you just see Edelman find the weak spot every single time.
Then you know one of the players of all time
was that was the greatest errisonce Bill Buckner. You know
that ball and it actually didn't touch him, you know,
he just when his hands went through that, you know,
that was just absolutely amazing. There was another amazing use
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of replay at that point. I don't know how it
doesn't touch him. It was it looked like to the
to the live I it looked like a change direction.
They nailed him. And then Jim Antony when we're laughing
like he say he didn't touch him, and he's doing
I'm like, oh my god, maybe you didn't touch him.
That was absolutely unbelievable, and Hogan's catch was a resolutely
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unbelievable you know. But more importantly, they went out and
they had a great game plan. They were going to
obviously shorten the game. If you watch the first half
and you bet Under you thought you were in great shape.
I don't think you ever thought you were going to
lose that, you know, over under game, and you know,
give Kansas City credit. They made a lot of plays.
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It looked like, you know, again you get to replay
and you know, we we we speak about the New
Orleans same game. It looked to me like the Sammy
Watkins play and the other touchdown to walk up, they
both looked like they were legal picks to me. I
mean that they didn't really show very much about that.
You know, the players when Mahomes ran to the to
the other side, they both looked like pick plays to me. Yeah,
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I mean they were. They're all this, it's all the same,
and it's all holding on every play. You could call
it pick play on every play. That's their fears on
every play. That's why it kind of brings his a
full circle bit. You can't really do much with the rafts,
like what are you going to do? Out? So I
mean that's the real question is is this reactionary Monday?
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Or what happens? Right? Okay? Is you know what's going
to happen? Does the overtime rule? Does the overtime rule change?
Should we not be deciding this on a coin to us?
Some people say that everybody should get the ball, but okay,
so so New England's scores, Kansas City scores, then New
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England scores. There's still an advantage to the coin toys
if you have a non defensive game. Yes, fine, But
I am of the believe I am on that standing.
I talked about this earlier as well. The NFL. The
reason they have the ot rules the way they are
because defense is a part of the game. Events does matter,
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and they have four third downs on that play on
that dry rather guess once one time they would have
gone for it, not a fourth and ten. I don't
think they do. The fourth and ten. I don't know
that they go for it. It depends on where it
depends any any anywhere, certainly anywhere less anywhere south, anywhere
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south of midfield. Yes, you think absolutely. I mean I
I think that. I think that, you know, he didn't
think that they were going to stop them, and at
least from getting three, you know, don't forget once once
to change of possession, three wins the game. I think
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that he would have had the attitude Brady's my best player.
I'm gonna lose with my best player. He certainly may have,
But if you're the Chiefs, you gotta put Belichick in
that position to make a decision, and he didn't four
different times Edelman, Edelman, Gronk and Hogan. So if I
asked you, what's more likely the replay rules changed or
the overtime rule change, you'd try to replay rule today.
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She's one of them, Yes, and how does that change?
Pass interference can be chan lounged. I mean, this was
in the last two minutes anyway, so it went to
make a difference of challenge. So I don't I don't,
I don't, I don't think. I don't think league office
has a right to call down and any agreedious call. Yes,
I think that's what it has to be. I would say,
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I would I would say this what they would do
is inside the last two minutes of a game, only
the league office has the ability to call down to
the referee and have them re look at something. And
do you think you know, people talked about the college rule,
which I absolutely hate, each team get theline. But I
think you're gonna see in the next few years the
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overtime rule change. We saw it, you know, we saw
it recently with the change where each team gets a
shot um unless a touchdown. Yeah, that was a great
rule change. I thought, I don't know that you're gonna
see it sweet so soon. I don't know that. I
think they like what they have. I think they buy
into defense, and they'll rationalize that that the Rams didn't
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have the ball first and one exactly, so we went
one and one, so it was fair, right, which is
what it should be. Right. Well, you know, the truth
of the matter is, if you had a real win
and and the defensive game, it may be advantageous to
pin people back and and and and and have the
short of field assuming but those days are over long over.
People say that, you know, there's there's no truth to
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defense wins championships. Um, is there no truth to that?
I understand why they say that, but I got at
know if that's fair. Right, Like with Seattle one, which
is not that long ago, like that was a defense
win championship. When the Roncos won, that was a defense
wins championship. So I wouldn't say that it's dead. I'd
say right now today, this is obviously the season of
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This is the season of offense and the high octane offenses.
You're going to see a defense do very very well well.
You also, you you also put into play most of
these big games, especially super Bowls in nice weather, not
always but dome settings, which you know, usually set themselves
up to more of an offensive show, right. I mean,
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of course, you know. One of the things that I
was thinking about watching the league this year is and
there was a very you know, scary article in I
think ESPN Plus saying that the biggest risk to football
is that, you know, the insurance side, and something that
doctors would understand, with malpractice and negligence insurances, that there's
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becoming a real difficulty getting insurance for football at virtually
every level, and they're going to be very few companies
writing it with all the concussion stuff going up. What's
interesting is I actually do think that big injuries were
down this year. I know there was Jimmy Garoppolo, but
if you think about Jack McKinnon as well on the
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same team and Alex Smith, you know, which was a terrible,
terrible injury. But by and largely put these rules in
place because they wanted to have Breeze Brady mahomes Off
standing upright at the end. And they were you know,
most teams made it through the season with the starting
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quarter if they wanted to. Okay, if they wanted to,
they you know, I know, Cam Newton has had problems,
had problems. Aaron Rodgers was banged up as well. I mean,
it's it's still a physical game. But don't get me wrong,
we're not They're not playing. But more so, I think
more of the stars were on the field, you know
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it then than in the past, which I think they
think is a good relatively good sign. I think they
I agree with that. I think they like that too.
I think that you bring up the quarterbacks and you
have to wonder or if you're gonna make passing reference
reviewables roughing the past are going to be one of
those reviewable plays as well. I mean the one on
Brady was was absolutely horrible. Basically, well, I'm just as
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close as I am to you as I close. It
was the head, you know, and but you know that
I it was were watching the game, um, and you
know it was some of the things that Tony Romo
said were great, like when when Gronk was was split
out wide to the left and he told told you
exactly where Eric Barry was and that Bradys Reid was
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to go amazing. That wasn't that terrific? Yep, that was
absolutely terrific television. Um. But you know the I think
it was Dan Blandino said, you can't anticipate the call
and with roughing the passer and something like that, that's
outside play. You gotta be goddamn sure. He was Jeane
Sterotoor who also was a college Big ten referee, but
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it retired from that this year for the first time. Yeah,
and and according to my friend, he was a great referee. Really, Yeah,
he said Jean was a great referee. It's cool. I
like to hear that. Yeah, he said. Jean was let
him play, would talk, would let you balk at him
to a certain point when you would when when he
had enough, he would tell you he was done. Um,
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but he was you see. And this is the problem
with replay, is that good referees goal was to allow
the players to decide the game. Now, and that's interesting
because I spoke a lot about this last week, and
I spoke about this today. The referees that reffed yesterday's game,
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we're Bill Vanovic and Clip Blakeman. It was the first
time that a non Super Bowl referee referee twice in
the postseason in many, many years. How it normally works
as you have your wild your four run for the
wild Card, your four cruise, four cruise for the next weekend,
and one of those crews refs the Super Bowl, in
the divisional round, the conference championships, and normally your second
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and third ranked refereeing and their crew. But because he
had avoid so many new refs this year and trusted
certain guys so much more, both Vinevich and Blakeman referee
both in the wild card round and in this round.
Most surprised that Vinevich is one of these guys because
he refereed more Sunday night football games the season than
anyone has ever rested a single season. Now, a couple
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of those were flexed brought a couple of those where
we wanted our best out there. Blakeman is another guy
that was constantly seen on Sunday Night Football. They believe
the NFL that Blakeman and Vanovich were two of their
best referees. And I'm sure the cruise that they wrote
with them this weekend, we're the best, absolute best that
they had. Vidovich and his crew, by the way, called
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less penalties than any other crew this season. The NFL
like them because he let them play. What you saw
yesterday in that Rams game was mostly the referees letting
them play. With the game on the line and the
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Rams making a close hit, they let him play. And
then and then you know, you forget that the because
he threw the interception the first play of overtime, they
called pass interference to correct that, your make up call.
And I said that, and Judy, we're watching this game,
and Judy was as past interference, it's called a make
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up call. Exactly what it was. It was right, it
was past interference. Was it nearly as egregious as we
saw ten minutes earlier? No? Is it one of those
places that could have been called on every single down. Yes,
there's a make up call. But you're in a dangerous
play because you see, I've been less when before anybody
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wants everything reviewed, Go a watch a college football game
and it takes takes forever. But b go watch a
Major League baseball game from two to nine seventy five.
That was two hours and twenty minutes, and basically you
were taught that you couldn't walk your way around the basis. Now, honestly,
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the major leagues has become more like Little League, where
you're taking a goddamn strike in the games of three
and a half hours. And honestly, unless you're a fan
of a team or a complete fantasy sports junkie, most
games are becoming unwatchable unless you vested. You know, the
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NFL for everything, we can say, it was very very watchable.
It moved along. There were two overtime games. Be careful
for what you which wish for because you may get it,
and I don't know if that makes the product. I mean,
remember when replay first came out and we had the
commercials about the zebras underneath the hood and it took
three minutes and stuff like that. Now they've gotten it
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much much better. But if you stop stopping it all
the time, and then on replay everything looks like pass
interference and then and that's that's my biggest concern because
we sound hypocritical. When you talk to co choosing, they
tell you what makes a good referee. It's not that
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they call everything. It's that they're consistent and that the
players know what they're gonna call and what they're not
going to call, and they call it the same way
for both teams. And you want it fair for both teams,
when unfortunately you have something that is as egregious what
took place last night. This is not that easy. Annoyingly,
it's just it's simply not that easy. But as you said,
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Patriots are back fifth super Bowl in the last six years,
three in a row. And as I said this afternoon,
it's amazing that it is the same quarterback and the
same coach that started this thing eighteen years ago. Were
seventeen years ago, right, seventeen years ago, we're talking about
Mashall Falk and Kurt Warner and Kurt Warner, Tory Holt
and Isaac Bruce with coach by Dick formal against Brady
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and Belichick. And we're so far past that era. Of
Rams football. It's incredible. I mean it was a city
ago number one, number two. They've gone through Mike mars Uh,
the Jeff Fisher era, quarterback hell, quarterback purgatory. Now they're
back in the super Bowl. Forget about it, think about
it somewhere else. They started as a primarily defensive team
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back in that day, to some extent, Richards Seemour, Rodney Harrison,
you know, Brady him eliminated picking Brady instead of Drew
brid Bledsoe because he felt he made less mistakes. You know,
that was really the the you know, at the beginning,
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you know, I'm not gonna I'm gonna use a terrible
word that Brady at Belichick considered Brady a very good
game manager to okay, and nobody, nobody remembers that. And
then you go to the Randy Moss era where that
was actually the most explosive team, the team that lost
to the Giants. You know, if there wasn't Eli Manning,
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you know, for getting in the Giants, and we give
Eli too much right up at the Giants, I mean,
think about what their legacy it would even be greater.
Then you have the two tight ends, you know, with
Aaron Hernandez and Gronk and then you go back. Now
you come to this team which is very, very different,
and you know, you know, I know, everybody lays their
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eggs and has their bad games, but if you watch
this team played Tennessee, Okay, and they're a well coached team,
they were got awful. They were slow. You watched them
played Detroit, they were blown off the ball. It's absolutely amazing.
(31:40):
You know that they came in and to do what
they did and you know, they kept Kansas City and
check and you know, I thought their game plan was
masterful to shorten the game and that was what they
you know that they wanted to do. They wanted to
be in a close game in the fourth quarter and
figured week, we're going to find a way to win it,
(32:01):
because we usually do, except against the Eagles and the Giants.
And it's amazing because bettors and fans are always just
like always lean towards the Patriots because they say, it's
the Patriots and they'll figure it out, and they do.
More often they not, they do. They let offensive lineman
after offensive lineman go. Nate Solder becomes the highest paid
left tackle the time in the history of the NFL
(32:22):
and they bring a guy that they traded for in
the third round. They traded fourth third round pick with
San Francisco Slays are left tackle and here they are
now they Scaria has Tom Brady up he touched yesterdays
are besides the roughing the pastor where he wasn't touched,
which you know. Again, what's interesting though, is that they
(32:42):
played the game exactly the way what they wanted to
play it because Kansas City is to some extent more
modern day version of the Peyton Manning Indianapolis, meaning that
they have a offense that's supposed to score is supposed
to from a head, and then their team is based
(33:04):
on speed rush from the outside. It takes off because
you can see you off you're playing from the head.
The Giants always got into Brady because they put Tuck
in the middle and they got a center rush, which again,
if they get a decent referee. I hate to say that,
(33:27):
but in the dominant Sue and Donald being defensive tackle
is a very good type of matchup because I think
that you beat the Patriots up the middle, and I
actually think that's you know, I began to mention this
last week on on on last week's show, I think
(33:47):
that with the run pass options, I said that Quentin
Williams is the perfect player. I think that the Vince
Wolf folks that stand up the line aren't going to
be as valuable as the A three defensive tackle that
can split the gaps, because I think everything has been
designed with that weakness in the middle, and the way
(34:07):
to to beat all of these things is penetration up
the middle. So I think, you know, we go went
through the Lawrence Taylor where the typical rush was from
the outside. I think now we're going to see the
re emergence of the Alan Pages of the world. Really
dating myself, one thing we have not talked about yet.
Doc goes back to the other game with the Saints
(34:28):
and the Rams, and that's Todd Gurley, who had more
carries yesterday were touches yesterday started the game of the
first two drives dropped too bad, too bad balls that
you only hurt right there? Yeah, well again, Girls is
good a player as there is in the NFL. I mean,
(34:51):
he's been terrific in the year, and if he's not hurt,
you would tend to believe that Jean McVeigh would just
keep feeding him because you know, cream always surfaces. Wood
are always hits its level. So by and large, you
you would take a short sample and make it make decisions.
(35:17):
I don't believe that coaches believe in hot hands as
much like C. J. Anderson has a hot hand. You know,
there's a reason why c. J. Anderson has been cut
by two NFL teams and Todd Gurley coming off knee surgery,
was the fourth pick in the draft, So you would
just keep on feeding him. I mean, you know, take
(35:40):
it home right now, Barkley is not hurt as drops
three passes. Do you think that Wayne Gauman is better
in his dreams? Or you just hope that Barkley wakes up?
You just hope that Barkley wakes up. You're not going
to take a small sample size. These guys didn't get
where they are because they're dumb. So the only thing
(36:00):
that makes sense is that he has niece, sir, He's
got you know, he's he's got a stable anterior crucier.
They wouldn't take a chance of that. But he's got
some sort of cautlage injury that he's playing through the pain,
and if they scope him, he would miss the playoffs.
And they're hoping the inflammation goes down and that he
(36:20):
can play in the super Bowl. But there's just no way.
If he's right, you wouldn't feed him. I'd like to think,
I'd like to agree, right, I'm just very surprised and shocked.
And he only is he looks fine to me, like
he looks he seems fine. And but you know, that's
the difference between the difference between people, and and that's
(36:45):
what's so remarkable when you see like some of the
runs that Barkley made or Michael Vick going back when
when it looked like a video game. I mean, these
are the greatest athletes in the world. I mean, these
these these guys are running for at three four four
And when these guys make them look like you know,
people who are playing two hand touch, it's just absolutely amazing.
(37:08):
So that fine difference is enough. And if you're running
just a little bit, yeah, you wouldn't pick it up.
But there's just no way. And you know something, they
just signed him for big money, and there's just no
way he wouldn't be saying, you know, let's let's let's
let's let's let's take another example, James Harden and It's
(37:30):
interesting the Nets played to one fifty what was that
one hundred and six three pointers? Um, let's say James
Harden misses his first twelve shots, Okay, okay, and we're
in game seven, okay, so we saw that last game seven?
Is he still on the court at the end because
you feed the monster and you hope it changes, You
(37:52):
know that that that's based. But do you think it's
bad for basketball? What's going on? My friends said that, right.
Franzesla was the one that said the NBA is dying.
Ever thought I'd see the death of a sport in dead? Well,
he's out of his more. NBA has never been hotter.
It's the sport of the NBA. You know again, it's
it's I hope that mentally and emotionally, I never get
(38:16):
old and have sour grapes. You know when people tell
tell people that, you know, the music when I was
growing up was great, you know, and stuff like that,
and and and and and you have people who do
this is called sour grapes, and that the best players
played when when when when they were my friends type
of deal. And you know, this is like the anti
new type stuff. The NBA has never been hotter. I
(38:37):
I've said this. My my dad explained this to me,
who was in broadcasting. Radio made baseball great game listen
to you had great announces that could paint the picture.
Television made football because the stoppage of play and started
with the Baltimore Coach Giants Championship game. But football with
its stoppages is an absolutely eight great sport or television,
(39:03):
it just is perfect. You have just the right amount
of time out, you can eat, you can go to
the bathroom. It's a perfect television sport. Absolutely. If television
had a design a sport, it would be football. The
internet and streaming is perfect for the NBA because they've
marketed their stars are the greatest athletes in the world.
You can see them. They're not wearing helmets, they're not
(39:26):
wearing different things. You see them flying through the air.
It has also become, probably with the exception of soccer
or you know or or or what people would call
real football, the most international sport in the world. So
if you want to buy stock in a sport, I
think basketball would be the one you'd be buying. I
(39:48):
think everybody agrees with that, right. I don't think you're
going out going out on a limb of any sort
by suggesting that I just think that the NBA is
figured it out. They have figured out what how how
to best utilize a phone and share everything. Well, the
NFL and the MLV are are archaic. Have too many
(40:10):
Mike Francises, have too many Mike francis Is. You know,
they they they they don't understand your generation, Okay, and
they you know this is you know this, this is happening,
you know, in a lot of different fields. And you're
going to see and and and what's what's amazing to
(40:31):
me is that you know, you still have seventy five
year olds running for president, whether it's Joe Biden, you
know people, I think that, you know, young people should
want young blood instead of the same generation that's taken
everything from them. Yeah. There, there's absolutely no way. Um,
there's no way that they're going to be able just
(40:52):
snap a finger and just change that. It's not gonna happen.
They need they need more players the NFL, for instance,
like Mahomes, you guys that ILK that that get it.
I think, Yeah, I mean, you know, Kyler Murray will
be fun watch. I mean that's what it would be
really really really exciting by the way. You know, I've
(41:13):
been thinking about it. You know, it's interesting that one
of the reasons people gave a gettleman being fired was
that he wasn't loyal to the Carolina players that he
was Belichick I in and I think all of the
quiet around the Giants means that he's moved on. Maybe
(41:34):
I'm wrong. I think that if they were going to
bring Eli back as the man, they'd be creating this
big type of smoke screen and stuff like that, and
they are very, very very very quiet. I think that
noise will pick up after the Super Bowl, when all
(41:56):
we have to look towards is free agency. Of course,
Jacksonville tires John D. Felippo as her off as a coordinator.
So everybody thinks Nick Foles. Everybody think nicks folon, Nick
Foles headed there? Do you um? You know, I think
the Nick Foles situation is is interesting. Number One, I
think Philadelphia has to get rid of him or else
they'll have a quarterback controversy. And hear that Wentz is
(42:19):
definitely there man on the other hand, and you know,
I think they would be if they tag him, they
run the risk of everybody saying, fine, if I'm in
the NFL and they tag him, I say, okay, now
you've vested million in the quarterback position, go field the team,
(42:39):
you know. So, I mean, I think that's a risk.
So I think that they shake his hand and let
him make the best deal possible. Um. And I think
that Jacksonville's a reasonable landing spot for him. I mean,
I think that the Giants would talk to him. UM.
(43:00):
But I think that, you know, I think there are
several several I think Denver potentially. Now. The only other
possibility is that Folds decides he likes his job. And
you know, he seems to be a different sort of
person that he might. But this is so crazy for
(43:21):
a guy like Nick Foles to like his job. You're
making millions of dollars, I mean, more money than you'll
ever need. Right, You've won a super Bowl, You've done
it all. You can make a very nice living on
that clipboard and if they need you, you're there. If not, okay, well,
the wrong that there's nothing wrong with that. I think
(43:42):
it's really just hot around costs and went. So I
think I don't think they're going to give him that.
I agree with you. I agree with you too many.
Health is a tough town. It's not worth it's not
worth it. It's it's it's not worth it. It's a
tough town. But on the other hand, Cossing Wentz has
never stayed healthy, and you know he's we left him
off at the quarterbacks that got hurt. He's very very
(44:03):
much upright. You know, he's an incredible athlete, um, but
he takes a lot of hits. He may have a
little bit of what we talked about with Robert Griffith.
You know, he doesn't know how to protect his body
that well. So I figure it out. Yeah, he better
figure it out because he's a big talking Now. Roethlisberger
has taken a beating through his career, much greater beating
(44:26):
than say Manning, definitely, you know, through his through his career. Um.
But no, I I do not. I think the Giants
are going to only have Eli Manning and Alex Tanney
at the quarterback position next year. I'm quite sure you're
right about that. College basketball exactly where I was headed. Next,
(44:46):
the Duke Blue Devils fell, and of course they fall
to Syracuse, who every year has that one win and
everyone they're always in the bubble, everyone freaks out. They
always make it. Jim Behead stops his fiends, I guess
what he wants. On are always trouble in the tournament
because no one knows how to play against their own
And that win against Duke put it right back where
they always are, and it's the most frustrating thing in
(45:07):
the world. Doc and someone has no interest in seeing
Syracuse and Jim Beehind crying like a baby again, Well,
did you I watched that overtime in that game. I
did not watch it. I watched the overtime. I didn't
see the whole game. And now by the time I
was watching, Trey Jones got hurt and they made it
very early on and they could not do a thing
in overtime. And then I watched the Virginia game, and
(45:33):
first of all, the Duke athletes a better suited for
the NBA. Sure, definitely, There's there's no question about it.
So this is not a knock on a up and
down game. Zion Williamson goes to the hoop incredibly well,
both hands incredibly well. He can't shoot straight, you know,
(45:55):
which is something he has to work on. Barrett is
not a great shooter. At the present time, very nice
player as well, but Duke can't shoot it. So there
are twenty teams in the country that can beat Duke
in the n C. First of all, I would say
the you know, we we talked about the Big Ten
going eight and nine. D I'm not Duke can beat
(46:17):
every single team in the Big Ten, don't get me wrong.
But the first eight nine teams on their night can
can beat Duke as well. So you you have tremendous parity.
You know, Virginia who was undefeated, really you know, Duke
played very very good defense, and the kid died and
shoot the ball real well, hit a big shot at
(46:38):
the end. But they didn't look unbeatable by any stretch
of the imagination either. So I think that just like
we talked about parody, I think you really have a
lot of parody in college basketball. You you saw, as
we said, Duke one of those teams that fell. Much
of the top five fell last week, with Kansas falling,
(46:58):
Virginia falling, in Michigan falling as well. We know a
lot about the Big Tend, both both you and I
and the Big Tend. It's as good as I've seen it. Actually,
um A very long time. And each of these teams
can be each of these teams. What I'm saying to
the top of the especially and the A C C
is pretty much the pretty much the same. But you
know what, I on a neutral site, Okay, Maryland can
(47:20):
beat Duke absolutely, Okay, I will compet Duke if they
shoot it well. I mean, you know, you know, they're
gonna have trouble with with with speed and and it
depends on how these games are called, you know, to
to some extent, you know, if they you know, teams
like I will live on the foul line and and
and and and stuff like that. Duke is not a
(47:42):
great shooting team, so Beheim zone the two three, which
was designed against bad shooting teams, which is a tougher
defense to play right now, because most teams shoot the
three so well, right, I mean, the two three was
designed to pack it back and make people shoot. Okay, Now,
if you make shots, you're gonna beat the zone. Now.
(48:05):
What's hard against Duke's athletes in the zone. And this
is where Syracuse has an advantage and it's not so
simple for everyone else to play zone, is that Beeheim
recruits for the zone. Okay, so The hottest thing or
most college teams that switch defenses is a they can
(48:26):
give up the long shot and then rebounding out of
the zone. So you know they Syracuse has that center
and length and they rebound out of the zone better
than other teams because they play it consistently. Most teams
really struggle against Stuke's athletes because if you're coming in
and playing Duke, you would definitely zone them because they
(48:48):
can't shoot straight. Okay, but your problem is going to
be they're going to crash the boards. Zion read it.
And these guys are athletes like you can't imagine. And
Bolton's an athlete too. They're gonna crash the boards and
you may not be able to rebound, and that's where
they kill you. That is where they kill you. And
that's they they will be, no matter where they're ranked.
The number the favorite betting favorite to win it all, well,
(49:10):
I would take I would take the field, take the field.
I take the field. Hand. Now, the real bet I
believe is what's going on. What is going on in
here is um Duke. It's Duke Gonzaga, Kansas versus the field, right,
I think I think that's that I would take field
to too. I think that you you know, the difference
(49:33):
between the top five and ten to twenty five is
smaller than any time in my life. Well that's what
I was saying that, but at least at the big
time of the a SEC the top of the bottom. Okay,
Michigan State Maryland tonight tonight. I mean, you know, Michigan
State ranked Maryland's thirteenth in the country. Yeah, and I
(49:54):
think that game is in. Michigan State is a nine
nine point favorite tonight. Michigan State plays very well at home, yeah,
you know, and and and they can and and you
know again that's that's the other thing that you don't
realize is that Maryland. You know, you have to two
parts of the big tent. Okay, you have Indiana, Michigan State, Michigan,
(50:14):
Ohio State. Okay, then you have the other teams and
they have not yet learned their dudes. So Michigan State
at home, you're gonna really have to beat them. You're
talking about getting calls, You're not getting anything tonight. You're
gonna be you know, I hope that you have an
extra TV set, you know, at home, and your fiance
that he doesn't get mad at you when you break
the TV set after they like foul out like Darryl
(50:36):
Morsey and like you know, in the thirty fourth minute
if it's a place game. But you know, one of
my favorite story of the weekend, I have to talk about.
New York Times does an article about obesity in in
in NFL football players. And I've actually operated on some
in in in my time, and I think it's really
really kind of a very very interesting story. And it's
(50:57):
it's a question that I get a lot, like what
happens to the big offensive lineman that you see and
are they unhealthy and and and things like that, and
it's it's kind of interesting because we've seen a bunch
of them through the years, myself, my colleagues. There's been
some affiliation with the Jets, Atlantics, hill Um. Actually while
(51:21):
they're playing, most of them are fairly healthy and don't
have any sign of metabolic disease. But this is really
the truth, big lineman when they retire, they either slim
down or they have many medical problems, including you know,
the running backs. And that's what the story was. And
(51:41):
there's been a whole host of different things. While people
have talked about concussions. The amount of obesity, diabetes and
kidney disease and many of these people is astronomical and
probably a bigger problem then just the mental illness and
the concussions that have become you know, the things for
(52:02):
for for movies, um. And you realize that through these
kids lives, they've probably been taught to have absolutely no
dietary discretion whatsoever. Bigger was better, and it may not
even be true. And then then you have the other extremes.
So it's interesting nutritionally you have two types of athletes.
(52:24):
You have athletes like Sterling Shock and um Hurt Thomas
is another person that I met a few times that
look at their body as their cathedral. It's like your studio.
They take care of it like you know, anything they
put into it. They realize that this is the output
(52:46):
that I get. And then you have other athletes that
they have just been natural athletes and they don't equate
what they eat to their output because it's never made
a difference in their entire life. So you have Tom
Brady's and the TV that's absolutely obsessed and I think
much more on the right track, should be perfectly honest.
(53:07):
And then you have people who are just in natural
athletes and possibly Edian McDonald's two hours before they Charles
Charles Barklay essentially, and they basically polarized both ways. And
I think that you know, in this country where obesity
is an epidemic, you know, we're not doing these people's services,
(53:29):
especially we're looking at the NFL that wind up unhealthy.
But what happens to all the college kids doing this?
It's a great point. I think there's very few instances
because you don't see a lot of the offensive lineman
after they go away. Um, like David deals Annuncer, Right,
he's a big dude, he slim down, he looks great,
he does, but nobody Chris Snee lost a ton of way.
Chris Snel lost not away. And the one I'm leading
(53:50):
toward um is Nick Hardwick, who I I couldn't believe
it was the same guy where he was a longtime
center for Philip Rivers forever and this dude took beating
after beating and beating. He's a monster's human being of course, right,
he was a center and he retires kind of surprisingly.
People thought he'd come back, but he retires and then
he shows up in training camb a year later or
(54:12):
Opening Night or something like that. He was skinny as
I am. There's a holy crap, what happened in the
hardwag And he just like, you know, I stopped eating
like an idiot, and I knew I wasn't working out
as much as I was was as a professional athlete,
and I just like the way I felt. I don't
like how my body felt. And he's much much. That's
very very rare, and maybe certain pro athletes because they
(54:35):
have so much discipline and go ahead and do that,
but it's very very I'm looking at it now and
it's it's it's crazy. He it looks like totally even guy. Yeah,
it's but it's very very rare. Most kids who are
severely obese is adolescents going to be an obese adults.
This is the first generation that's going to not outlive
(54:58):
its predecessor several reasons. You know, it used to be
just obesity and diabetes. Now it's actually drug overdose as
well as being added into drug overdoses actually reach incoming
such a critical thing that it's actually reducing life expectancy.
Think about that, when there's so many people in the
United States it's really really chilling. But I think that,
(55:23):
you know, in the high school level. I was just
watching like QB one UH, which is a Netflix show
about UH three quarterbacks Jake from Tate Mortal who just
transferred to the University of Miami, and actually he's trying
to get a oddship waiver so that he doesn't miss
(55:44):
a year. What do you think about that? Do you
think that a coaching change should qualify you for a
hardship No, I don't think you're qualifying you as a
harsh of river. But as coaches leave, anybody should the
ability to leave, right Why should the kid have to
sit out of you? It's ridiculous. I don't know. Hardship
waivers are right way they should handle it. But like
you want to leave, your coach left, leave even if
(56:05):
your coach doesn't leave. I mean, you know, even the
coach doesn't leave, You're right, he's not like the coach
with He's not even the coach leaves, there's a penalty
for him. You know. People people are upset that Jalen
Hurts is the greatest college free agent of all time. Well,
what is he all the University of Alabama or or
or or anybody else. He you know, he's they had
(56:25):
to get an education and part of it if he
can get a better opportunity. You know, the the alumni
is mad. It may hurt the sanctity of college football
and may hurt the ratings, but what is he vested in.
I'm with you. I completely agree with you. Yeah, I
it doesn't make anything. It doesn't make any sense. Um
(56:49):
that coaches can do it and players can't. Exactly stupid.
So you know, I think that he's he's you know,
I hope he gets it, not the least of words,
because I have to go down for like parents weekends
in my I mean, their quarterback play was absolutely horrific
this year, and maybe someone somewhat better. But you know,
what I think is that there has such an emphasis
in these high school programs in sports in general. But
(57:10):
I think that we really as a country, really have
to pay attention to nutrition and even at the and
really teach people that you know, what you put into
your body. It's like everything else. I mean, if you
had an aston Martin, you probably wouldn't be buying the
cheapest gas at the the you know, the worst gas
station in the entire world, and you know, what you
(57:31):
put in is what you're going to get out. And
I think that we have to start teaching athletes that
at a very young level, not just athletes, start teaching
all young people and old people the same, because I
don't want to operate on people. You know. It's like,
you know, I tell people that I'm very proud of
what I do taking care of and giving people back
their lifetamp, but no one wants their kids to require
(57:52):
bariatric surgery. Certainly not, certainly not. And um, you gotta
be careful. You gotta be careful what you put in there.
He's only one, you know. It's kind kind of interesting
and people ask all the time, and the NFL story
brought it into a sports light, and obviously this is
what I do. So it's it's interesting to talk about it.
But you know, it used to be like, if you
(58:13):
were middle class, you could send your kids to college,
you have enough money to retire, you know, potentially move
down south and and and you know, have a quality life.
And now you were saying that the middle class has disappeared.
The same thing has happened with obesity in this country.
Like if you just followed kind of the average it
(58:34):
should have taken you to reasonable health, but without food
supply being distorted and what we're eating being changed so rapidly,
if you just go with the flow, it actually takes
you towards obesity and diabetes. And that's really the very
scary of the issue, because if you just go with
the flow. Most people think, if they just stay in
the mainstream, maybe they won't be sterling Shaw, but they
(58:57):
won't be you know, you know the fridge e right, okay,
But the truth is that the the river's flowing more
towards the towards the fridge side, and that's issue. Do
you love the fridge though? Dr Mitchell Rosalind, This has
been a blast. As always, I learned so much as
I feel like I do each and every week. The
(59:18):
Super Bowl, of course coming up in just two weeks time.
Now we'll have another show before the Super Bowl UM
next week and the Sports Center of oh my god,
it's the way we're getting beat by the Sports Center
updates right right right right absolutely for Dr Mitchell Rosalind,
I am Greg Sauceman. Thank you so much for joining
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