November 10, 2025 • 41 mins
What are the 3 biggest needs for the Dodgers heading into this offseason and how can they fill them? Clint Pasillas welcomes guest co-host Scott Geirman (spot starting for a vacationing Alanna Rizzo) to discuss all ways the front office could improve the team this winter (2:57).
Will that be signing Kyle Tucker in free agency (6:47)? Bringing back Cody Bellinger? Could the front office put together a blockbuster trade for someone like Jarren Duran (16:12)? The hosts discuss!
And, who could the Dodgers target on the reliever market (26:49)? Edwin Diaz? Ryan Helsley? A Kenley Jansen reunion?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The name of all those is Kyle Tucker. I do
have some concerns with Kyle Tucker and making him one
of the highest paid outfielders in the game.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What is going on? Party people? I'm hosting the show,
so I say party people for some reason. My name
is Clint Piscias. That guy over there is Scott Gearman
filling in for Alana Rizzo. Today. Welcome to Dodgers Territory,
a Monday edition of the show. And today on the show,
Scott you already know because we talked about it. We're
diving in to the three biggest needs in our view,
(00:40):
the three bixed needs for the Dodgers over the twenty
twenty twenty twenty six offseason. Dodgers just won a World Series.
They need to try to run it back. They need
to try to get better. How will they get better?
There's nobody better I'd like to talk to than Scott
about that kind of stuff before we dive into it, though,
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(01:01):
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all that kind of stuff. So anyways, let's dive in
a little bit of pleasantries to begin with, Scott, we
haven't talked in a little while. How you doing basking
in the glow of back to back World championships.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, just you know, excited to be here. It's good
to talk to you, man, It's good to be here
with the chat. Look, Dodgers back to back champs a
little bit over a week ago. Now, you know, last
week I was out at the stadium celebrating and it
was able to see the boys and that was great
to be among all. What you know, the biggest takeaway
I had from that, Clint, is that when tickets are
priced accordingly and you can get as many fans in
(01:39):
the stands as who you know, die hard love this team,
you get a crazy atmosphere. So that was really cool
to see. So I was stoked to be at that.
I was stoked to enjoy it, and it just it
really did something for me. And you know, to be
able to be in the stadium, man, and just take
all of that in. So as I sit right now,
yes we have to turn the page and look toward
(02:00):
the offseason here, but I'm going to continue and enjoy this.
As you knows as a fan of a repeat champion team,
you know, not much we can complain about. Man, we
could just just sit back and just let it unfold.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, that's a tough part. It's like, how how soon
do you start going, you know, headfirst into looking at
next season. We know the front office is, but hey,
we're in this weird position of being fans but also
you know, analysts. We talk about this team, we tell
people about this team, and we also want to enjoy
and basking that that glory of what this team just accomplished,
(02:31):
which hasn't been done in twenty five years. Well, that
is now done. We don't talk about the Yankees anymore,
the ninety nine, two thousand Yankees. We talk about the
twenty four to twenty five Dodgers and maybe the twenty
twenty six Dodgers. They ruined baseball in twenty twenty five,
they'll be looking to do it again. And you know what,
that's not my problem. Always love this front end again.
(02:58):
The concept of today's show, three big needs for the Dodgers,
no big surprises. We already talked about this. You know,
different ways shapes and forms over the course of this.
Now you know early offseason Dodgers need an outfielder Scott.
We know this. Michael Confordo was a dud in twenty
twenty five, and like I talked about here on the
(03:19):
channel last week, he's not gonna be back in twenty
twenty six. I know, shocking breaking news there. We know
this team is in an advantageous position to improve. You know,
not too often you get to improve the roster after
winning a World Series, after ruining baseball. They're spending all
this money, but a whole bunch of cash coming off
the books. Here Bob Knightingale pointing out eighty seven million
(03:40):
dollars when you add up all the pieces, of course,
finally being out from under that Chris Taylor contract, kirbyates
off the books, Kershaw, Confordo, so on and so forth.
That's a lot of money. It's a lot of cheddar
and it could go towards you know, the biggest area
of need in that outfield. You need a left fielder
or maybe a senior fielder. So it's how do they
look to reload that outfield and this offseason or could
(04:02):
they maybe look to reconfigure it where you do get
a center fielder, move Paz to right and talk Tao
into going to left. Not that Pat hasn't necessarily bad
in center field anymore, but you could still find ways
they get to be creative.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That is what's it's been talked about. Yeah, it's something
that with with po has that's been talked about. And
we've seen, you know, how how well his arm plays
in a corner spot. We've seen it a number of times.
He gets to put there in spot duty uh and
pi Ha his' arm is something that he can show
off whill you look at it and you're like, there's
a little bit of puigue in there. There's a little
bit of puigue in there, Clint that you can see him,
you know, gun somebody out. He's got a good field
and I think with extended time in a corner slot
(04:37):
he could do it. He's young and he's athletic. He'll
figure it out. But it's just been when push came
to shove, can the Dodgers secure a center fielder. It's
like we had with Kevin Kiermeyer, with someone out there
who can go get it any spot in the outfield.
It was someone you feel comfortable roaming center field. Do
they attack that do they just say, you know, Andy
pi has you've got the reins in center field. We'll
(04:57):
see how things play out. There's a couple of names
that we could talk about who can man a spot.
I don't know if it's there's one out there and
it's the top name on the market, I would say,
aside from Kyle Kyle Tucker, we'll talk about him too,
But I would say Clint that a lot of the
slots that way they can fill in or in a
corner spot, which is I would say, you know, left field.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, left field for sure. I do have a list
of my view of the top free agent names available.
We'll get into trade targets as well. But yeah, Kyle
Tucker right at the top of that list. Uh, clear,
clear favorite free agent outfield. They're available of course, old
friend Cody Bellinger, old enemy Trent Grisham in there, Harrison Bader,
Dodger's been linked to, We're linked to in the past,
(05:38):
former Giant Mike Streemsky and hey, Cedric Mullens another name
this team has been linked to in the past. Now
with all of those names there, there's there's two kind
of paths. There's clear paths that Dodgers can go with.
They can either get way better or they can try
to run it. Run the canfordo idea back, get a small,
a small splash, and and hopefully hold out for the
(06:00):
fact that one of the minor league outfielders they have,
of which they have a ton of talent in the
minor league, is hopefully one of those guys make some
huge leaps forward, is able to help this team next year.
But looking at that list, looking at those names, of course,
Kyle Tucker, Cody Bellinger pop right off the list. For me,
I would rather see this team play in the upper
eche line of the market rather than just try to
(06:21):
make a filler, you know, help this team out. Worth noting,
I said it last week a few times. Alex call
is still on this roster as well. He's somebody who
could and should be around to help out with the outfield.
But of those names, sort of the six names I
had thrown on the screen, who do you want the
most and who do you think this team could actually
(06:41):
you know, target the most of the free agency board. Well,
we'll talk trades in a little bit as well.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, a couple of different spots you could dive into
if your look of course, like the name of all
those is Kyle Tucker. I do have some concerns with
Kyle Tucker and making him one of the highest paid
outfielders in the game. I really do. And I think
that's fair because you know some of the things as
far as you know how much he loves the game,
how much he's dedicated to the game. Uh. And do
you want when you line up? I know you know
(07:07):
Sarah's had a great segment. Uh, And I want to
give him credit to this at it's stuff that you've
pointed out, but he put it very eloquently that he
does a lot of things really good. But nothing about
Kyle Tucker is overall elite. He's been exceptional with the bat.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Defensively, you know, he's not incredible. He's going to he
can steal you some bags, but he's definitely a superior
left handed bat. But can you say that you're going
to hand another guy in his thirties a MAX contract,
a big time contract? Can you put him up there
with you know, the biggest names in Major League Baseball?
Do fans do the Dodgers want to handcuff himself to
(07:44):
another you know, big time contract that's going to go
into their like later thirty year old years, and that's
something for me, I'm hesitant of it. Again, I always
have to preface it that it's not my money. So
if they do it, they do it, and they and
if that's if it falls life. But with Kyle Tucker Flint,
it's more so that if the market materializes the way
that it possibly can, teams see this, he could follow
(08:07):
in their lap and they can get something to do
what they wanted to do with Bryce harpern High aav
low years. But I think Kyle Tucker is going to
go for you know, a big deal. The next one
is Cody Bellinger and it's someone there's been a few
projections out there six you know, six years, if you
want to add one in after that, around one hundred
and sixty you know, plus million. It's someone I'm intrigued by.
(08:30):
But if you look at where he's at currently, Clint,
he's been terrific. Tody Belinger since he left LA has
you know, really grabbed a hold of his true game.
And I could feel comfortable doing it, but I know
you said you want to stay in the high tier.
But I'm just letting you know that Mike Yastremsky is
someone that I've got circled for me as another one
(08:51):
year guy doesn't have exceptional range, has an arm. But
I from what I saw and I know fans got
this and I know you know it too. Against right
handed pitchers in the outfield, Michael Confordo was supposed to
fill that need. He couldn't do it. He didn't have
it in him. He didn't make it happen. He actually
was the reason that the Dodgers didn't go back into
the trade market at the deadline to find that bat
(09:14):
to fill that void. So if they don't want to
pay the top dollar, and they don't want to pay
Cody Bellinger, they don't want to pay Kyle Tucker. Market
turns out that way. Yastremski has been really good versus
right handed pitching, and that's someone that I can see,
you know, Yestremsky eight to eight ops against righty, So
he would be a strict platoon and that's someone with
Alex call and the roster is the way I could
(09:36):
do it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I love the idea of a platoon and that
that is one of the cheaper routes for sure if
you go to the Mike Yastremsky route. I know some
folks will have issues with it being a longtime Giant
or whatever. I don't care. I just want to see
this team get better and you know, be set up
in a better position to put some runs on the
board in the postseason, something they struggled with. They didn't.
(10:00):
It's not necessarily on that left field spot. It wasn't
necessarily because key k a Hernandez didn't go into full
keek tober mode. But they can. They are in a
position where they can get some help. And I really love,
you know, when they initially let Cody Bellinger go, it
made all of the sense of the world. He was
trying to find something that wasn't really ever there. What
(10:22):
we saw in twenty nineteen, that is not Cody Bellinger's game.
He is not that player. He can have some hot
streaks here and there, for sure, He's a very good
baseball player, I think, and I don't know if you
agree with this, this you know, kind of sentiment on it, Scott,
I feel like, you know, Cody's floor, or probably his
his average was more of what we saw on him
(10:42):
out of him in twenty eighteen, which is a very
good baseball player. Wasn't what we saw in his rookie year,
wasn't what we saw in twenty nineteen as well. He's
not an MVP. He's still a very very good baseball player.
And if he comes back, play some left field for
this team, play some right field for this team in
twenty six maybe spells Freddie Freeman at force here and there.
I am not against it, you know. I think there
(11:04):
is a time and a place for a Cody Bellinger
reunion as long as it's right, and this might be
the offseason for a Cody return. You dive more into
that in the second. But on Kyle Tucker, obviously, this
is the biggest and best name out there. That fact
probably hurts the team a little bit in that he's
going to be looking for that ten year deal and
(11:25):
I don't know that he is a thirty five million
dollars a year player. I agree. I agree. Hey, it's
not my money. It is not our money, absolutely, but
in a way it is our money because we'll have
to be spending more. Fans will have to be spending
more at Dodger Stadium. If you do go out there
and try to land at Kyle Tucker the ten years though.
I think that's the thing that worries me the most,
(11:47):
knowing that there are and abundance of names coming up
with host Way to Paula, Zayer, Hope, Mike Sirota, James Tims,
Tips the third who they just traded for during the
trade deadline last year in the Dustin May deal, Kendall
George at himself a hell of a season, very underrated dude,
Like they have a but ton of outfield talent that's
(12:07):
maybe two three years away, and to be stuck stuck
with somebody for ten more years, even if it is
Kyle Tucker, that's where you know, like I really want
to see this team eventually start to use its prospect
power again because we haven't seen it in a while.
You haven't really seen it since Will Smith, if we're
(12:28):
being honest, and you know, Dalton Rushing was a bit
of a dud last year. Maybe he's somebody who could
they could try to slot into an outfield spot again
or something like that, even though it doesn't look like
he profiles like an outfielder that can run. They're in
an interesting spot. But if you are able to go
out there and drop some cash to get better. Tucker Bellinger. Yeah,
they're gonna be at the top of my list and
(12:49):
we're looking at free agency.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, so look like it's the topic we can We'll
have this bleed into the trade conversation as well, because
a lot of people, you know, there's something that I'm
holding out hope for is that, Uh, there's been some
stuff made in the past about the Dodge's ability to
develop bats and develop a you know, prospect that has
a plus bat tool and have that translate to the
big league game. Will Smith has won, Andy Pater has
(13:13):
had a stellar regular season, fizzled out, you know, in
a hard way in the post, and that's something that
stuck out to everybody. And what we'll talk about this
and tease it up and then we'll go more into
the explanation at the trade route and why it's not
that I'm hesitant to sign someone. If they do, they do,
and that's that's they're making the best roster they can.
(13:34):
But if the front office and the player development believe
that some of these young guys that prospects and siroto
some fast risers we've got going on here, uh, and
can they be the guy. Do you want to have
a log jam again at a big league slot where
a young player is ready to go and there's just
no room to play him every day? Because that's what
these young bats need. They need a runway, they need
(13:56):
they don't need a little bit of time. Dolt Rushing
had nothing to prove in Triple A and they brought
him up and he didn't play on a regular basis.
So now it's what the hell do we have in
Dalton Rushing? So do they find a spot for him
to play with Will Smith? He's not going to catch,
so where the heck are you going to play him?
So that's the conversation with the outfield. You've got some
guys who can command this slot. They can do it.
(14:18):
It's now can it translate? And that's what with the
big deal? It might not happen that way. So there's
a couple of ways they can get out of this. Trades, Ti,
Oscar and Andez. We could figure some things out, but
we'll talk about that with trades.
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back into the nitty gritty with gritty Scotti g here
talked about out the free agent side of it, looking
at all the talent this team does have when it
comes to pitching talent at the minor league level. Some
of those outfield names that we've mentioned as well, there
(16:25):
is a name, there's a few names. There's one name
that was linked were I think we were all really
really hoping they would be a little heavier linked into
that being not gonna go to Stephen kuanway. I'm going
the Jared Duran way. But look at I think there's
really only three trade targets, and one of them at
Byron Buckston. He said he's not gonna be traded. But anyways,
on the screen here if you're listening, we got Jared Duran,
(16:47):
we got Byron Buckston, we got Stephen Kwan. Those are
gonna be probably the three biggest trade names. I got
one more bonus trade name in a second, But of
those three, I'm sure you agree, Jared Duran is the
guy who makes the most sense for this club. He
can play a little bit of center field, because I
would love to see somebody with enough athleticism to also
play centerfield. They're already kind of stuck in a way
(17:09):
with a bunch of corner guys and just trying to
figure it out. Jaron could play some left, he can
play some center. Don't know about right. But you don't
need that. You have that one covered. Buckston would be awesome,
says he doesn't want to leave Minnesota, but also maybe
at some point in his career he wants to see,
you know, win baseball games in the October, win a
World Series or something like that, and then Kwan, people
(17:30):
have kind of soured on of those three. Just just
kind of dive in, you know, give me your thoughts
on all three of those names.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Sure, yeah, Byron Buckson would be an astronomical price. That
would be one that we haven't seen for quite some time.
He'd be he's a hell of a player, Byron Buckston
when he's on field, He's a five tool guy. He's
exceptional injury history there. So it's not that I'm crossing
him off. It's that if that does happen, it'll materialize,
you know, in the background. I don't know how much
we'll hear about.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It sounds like a dodgy to me right there, if
we're being honest again with an injury you know.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
What I mean, fit right in there. But it's you know,
it's not that I'm crossing him off. It's just I
don't see that being the case. It's definitely something with
a ton of intrigue for you know, just as immense
the ceiling there is something that it changes, you know,
a spot in the order. He's definitely a name with
Stephen Kwan. You know, the Bob Nightingale report is something
(18:20):
that I that he reported that the Dodgers are going
to be re engaging in talks to acquire Stephen Kwan
this offseason because they how much they pursued him at
this past deadline. And that's something that I believe to
be true. I will say that right like, I really
do believe that to be the case. It's not that
I can co sign, it's that one hundred percent believe
that they're re engaging in those talks. They pursued him heavily.
(18:43):
I think it's more about Clint the stability of a
player like an outfielder that's not going to break the bank,
and it's having the wiggle room with players still in arbitration.
That's where you have Jared Durant still has Arbiers left,
Stephen Kwan still has Arber's left. He has two years
of team control here, whereas Jared Duran has three years
(19:03):
of team control. So following the twenty twenty eight season,
he's a free agent there. Stephen Kwan including this twenty
twenty six year, Following the twenty twenty seventh season, he
will be a free agent. So I think it's more
of the stability in between Jared Duran and Stephen Kwan.
I've got cases for both. I've long said that you
don't pay a high premium for a contact type of guy.
(19:24):
But if they're selling the Dodgers' front office is selling
me on the stability of an outfield position with a
glove that they can see in a left handed bat,
then I can get on board with either one. I
don't like the high priced premium, but if they're searching
for a stability without a big contract paid you know,
pay tag, you know price tag, I'm okay with it.
I can be bought into it. It's not my priority
(19:46):
list of Stephen Kwan, but Jared Duran, with how good
he can be against right handed pitching, I'm gonna keep
highlighting this. Everybody says they couldn't hit lefties. I think
the Dodgers really, you know, missed out on having someone,
whether it to platoon, bat off the bench, in the
you know, starting lineup with an outfielder. That's where they
missed a lot. And I think with Jared Duran, he's
(20:07):
someone who has plus plus speed, he's an aggressive base runner.
I don't think the defensive metrics with him are anything
you can buy into because of the big Green monster
and Fenway, so playing left field is really tough out there,
so it's someone that if they're able to do it,
I believe Jared Duran will be out of Boston because
of how much outfield depth they have. It's someone that
I've got right at my one, and then Stephen Kwan
(20:30):
probably after that. If it's the trade.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Route, yeah, trade route. I mean overall, between all the
names we've kind of talked about, between free agency and trade,
I honestly think Jared Duran is my number one overall.
From there, maybe it's Bellinger than Kyle Tucker, than Stephen
Kwan because I'm weird like that. You know. Again, there
are just some issues, long term issues with the Kyle
(20:53):
Tucker thing that that gives me a little pause. They
already have so many contracts. What it's Showy o'tney under
team controlled through twenty twenty three or Sorry twenty thirty three,
Yamamoto twenty thirty five, Mookie twenty thirty two, Will Smith
twenty thirty three. You know, paying another thirty five million
dollars for somebody into their forties or almost into their forties,
(21:13):
it's it's it can raise an eyebrow, and you don't
want to end up like the Padres who are stuck
with all of these very much aging stars who you know,
can't quite figure out how to win. Jaron Durand's name.
There's another one I wanted to bring up, just to
potentially maybe ruffle some feathers. But we heard in the
early in the off season, at least early in Philadelphia's offseason,
(21:35):
that hey, there's a chance there's a chance the Phillies
might be entertaining training Bryce Harper. Oh man, I know
it's a stupid idea as the first baseman now, but
if they are going to look to offload some salary,
some payroll there, if they've become disenchanted with with Bryce Harper,
(21:56):
which I think Dave Dombrowski went on foul foul territory
and said, like, no, we're keeping Bryce Harper. He's not
going anywhere. He's a part of our plans. You know,
words don't mean much in the offseason. The Dodgers have
some talent they could stand to cut some payroll. Obviously,
this is dumb. This is just for me because I
(22:17):
like to do this because I know it upsets people.
But could there be a scenario where the Dodgers can
package something together, get Bryce Harper back over in LA's elbows.
Not back over, but at least in that eighteen twenty
nineteen offseason, it felt like he was going to be
a Dodger. The elbows healed up. He could play left field,
he could play right field, and we know the bat
is good. Thoughts on a Bryce Harper potential.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Trade, I mean they could do it, They could, The
Dogs could make anything happen with the contract that the prospects,
they could make anything happen. The likelihood of it, that
would spell the end of the Philadelphia Phillies, this little
window that I think their window has been extended as
far as it could go. That's why they have some
big offseason and decisions to make real Muto Schwarber, They've
(23:03):
got a lot to figure out there, Ranja Suarez. So
the likelihood of that, I'm going to say like a
two percent because it's all anything as possible. But if
Bryce Harper was moved out of Philadelphia, it would spell
the end of anything they potentially have going on there
because he's a franchise guy. He is someone who's a
tone setter. Don't think it's a fit for La. He'd
(23:23):
be a great, a great piece, but I don't think
a trade like that, you know, would happen.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hey, I was told in the Freddie Freeman offseason there
was less than ten percent chance of Freddy to come
into coming to the Dodgers. So give me that little
bit of an inch. We'll see. I they could take aim.
While of course Bryce is getting on into age as well,
so do you want to be still stuck with another
eight years of contract or whatever. But the limited trade
market might force some creativity. And the thing is ultimately
(23:52):
the root of it. We had we had a whole
bunch of conversation last night on my old Dodger show
of you know, can they run it back almost as is?
And this team is good enough, They are built enough
as is right now without you know, major splashes, just
bringing back, yes, a Miggy Row or maybe a Keiki
a Hernandez. They have enough talent to at least challenge
for a title again in twenty twenty six. So right now, yeah, listen,
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I don't want to say it's a house money type
of offseason, but you're coming off back to back titles.
Alls you're playing for is the pride of saying you
went back to back to back, which is pretty damn cool.
I think it would be an absolute failure if they
don't make any moves. I think the fan base would
and should be upset if they didn't make any moves.
But they don't need to go out and chase a move,
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which is something I absolutely love. That said. They're still
gonna make a splash in the outfield market. Yeah this winter.
Any final thoughts on that field before we switch.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, I mean, look and Chaddill agree with this. We've
seen this you as well, that the Dodgers in the
front office just to make moves on the margins. And
just like you said, it's they're going to continue to
make moves on the margins here. I think they have
the pieces everyone forgets. You know, has Kim how he's
going to factor in the health of Tommy Edmund's ankle?
Canny Man center field? How much time is he going
to take? What are they going to do? The trade
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route with the two arbitration years is a sexy route
for me to take, just in the one year deal thing,
because I want to have them with the wiggle room
if these you you know, if if Jared Duran or
Stephen Kwan, if they work out, then you extend them
go ahead. If they don't and you want to just
pay them through arbitration, that's it, and then they go
free slap a qualifying offer however you want to do it.
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If they haven't already been offered that at some point
in their career, then you have the opportunity for some
of the young guys to have that slot open. So
that's the route that I think, you know, I prefer,
and I think the front office is going to pursue initially.
If not, then they're going to say, maybe we dip.
Maybe we we you know, we dip into the long
term stuff. Cody Bellinger can take over at first base,
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you know, after that center field and the outfield dreams
go ahead. Freddie Is you know, is his contract is up.
There's routes that they can go that things can work out.
The Dodgers are, like you said, in a house money
situation where a lot of maneuvers fit their needs and
their current trajectory. Uh. And so that's why it's for
fans don't get too hyped up and you know, to
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upset if they miss out on the big tickets. There's
a lot of routes that they can take where they're
an incredible spot. I saw somebody in Chad mentioning that,
you know, if you get too many of the same guys,
they're not gonna like the Yankee style hitters. They're not
gonna have the same success. They just went back to
back titles. They can do whatever the hell they want.
They're on a trajectory that they've got the formula that
can work out for them and they're going to be
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anchored by this starting pitching. So it's just a matter
of getting the guys that can, you know, fill the slots.
They need to produce enough runs and enough stuff in
the clubhouse to make it all work.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, don't need to win the offseason this offseason, and
that is a really really good position to be in,
especially when you're coming off of winning a World Series. Well,
another area that this is this is you know that
was Big Need number one talking about it for almost
twenty five minutes, Big Need number two. We know the
bullpen needs a little bit of help. Maybe this kind
of an ellipses, and it may be in there because
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there are a bunch of names that are going to
maybe be available. You know, they're come back being healthy
at some point you hope Evan Phillips will be back
from from Tommy John later in the season. You have
Bruce Dark Gratterol returning next year hopefully. I put this
graphic up on Thursday's edition of the show. But you
know a couple of names that are potential starters heading
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into spring training. Yeah, but looking at Kyle Hurt, Ben Casparis,
Justin Rableski, those three dudes in particular, really really, in
my opinion, help out this bullpen in twenty twenty six.
But the same time, there are free agents, there are
big names out there. There, there's a number of closers.
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I am banking on the fact that ten Or Scott
will be better in twenty twenty six. Maybe not better enough.
He doesn't need to be the closer in my opinion,
But I also don't think they need to land a closer.
But how do you add to a bull pen that
was non existent By the time we got to Game
five of the World Series, the bullpen was no no
the breaking case of emergency. We're sticking with Yamamoto in
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every you know, waking breath that we can and some
other starters, some of the guys that are out there,
of course, free agent relievers. You know, the big names.
Edwin Diaz, Devin Williams, Robert Suarez bailed out of that
sinking ship in San Diego. Ryan Helsley's a guy the
Dodgers have been linked to a number of times. Had
a really, really bad go of it after being traded
last year. Pete Fairbanks, who Scott? I think you and
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I could both agree he's just gonna be a Dodger,
that's a fact. And Kenley Jansen and I threw on
this list who would love to come back home? Doesn't
need to be a closer. If he signs her to
be a closer, I don't want him. But obviously those
guys make a splash, but all have different levels of
commitment and money. Edwin Diaz not gonna be a Dodger,
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we could just throw that out there. But any of
those other names intrigue you, Maybe Devin Williams by low
right now? Yeah, any of the other names you there
for this.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Club, Yeah, Devin Williams. Devin Williams definitely intriguing. He had
a second half resurgence with the Yankees. There. If it's
they're able to get him on a one year deal.
For the record, I think the Dodgers are going to
go after one year deal relievers, perhaps with an option there,
you know, a club option, mutual option, and then go
from there. But I'm in the one year route just
like you said, I don't see them dipping into the
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mega contract with Edwin Diaz or anything in that matter.
Ryan Helsley is the name that is on there that's
super intriguing. His time with the Mets was very bad.
He costs himself a lot of money, and I think
he'd be a perfect candidate for a one year if
you want to go give him, you know, sixteen through
eighteen million for a one year. He's had some issues
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with pitch tipping, and I think with the Mets that
really came to a head and it really blew up.
His stuff was all looked the same, his metrics were
all about the same, usage was right on par. They
didn't change much there. But he was pushed into a setup,
high leverage role and it really did and work with him.
As Krai dropped a little bit, walk rate spiked a
little bit, but his pitch tipping, I think in a
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new environment, you know, getting hit maybe hit a little
bit kind of all blew up in his face there.
So he's a one year guy. You get him at
the back end, let him get in fix the pitch
tipping issue. There's great videos about that. I think that's
someone who would be an intriguing piece at the back end.
But I'm a one year deal guy, and one you
don't have on there, Clint is someone that I've been
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hoping that the Dodgers could get back is Chris Martin.
He's someone that he is just a journeyman guy for
a number of years. He has done it. He's thirty
nine years old. He can just he's just pitch. He's
a rubber arm type of guy. He's had some injuries,
but he's someone that you can get on a one year,
super low money deal. He's just going to go out
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there and pitch. He's been one of the most productive
relievers for you know, seven eight years. So it's someone
that I'm always been interested in and I would love
to bring him back. That's the dart throw man. But
if they just want to get someone who's a rubber arm,
but Ryan Helsley's the number one for me as a
closer spot and on a one year you know, prove
a deal and then go let him make some more
money on the free agent market.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, I love the idea of Hellsley. I think for
all the reasons you listed, that's where it makes the
most sense, as long as it is that one year
kind of proved deal, because in my opinion, in my view,
this is a guy that is literally just replacing Kirby Yates,
who was not a part of the postseason bullpen, rightfully so.
But somebody who's replacing what Kirby Yates was supposed to
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do for this team, which was supposed to replace what
Dan Hudson had din for the team, particularly in twenty
twenty four. That veteran that gives you some moxie, can
can get you out of a tough you know, bases loaded,
no out, Maybe get you out of a basil loaded
no out situation in the sixth inning, or save a
game for you in the ninth Somebody that has some
flexibility that is willing to use it. You know, it's weird.
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I've been for a while very against the idea of
a Kenley Jansen reunion. He's been prettyf and decent since
leaving LA last year, had a really, really nice year
with Anaheim where there's absolutely nothing to play for. Letting
the dude, given the dude an opportunity to come back
and win another title, be a two time champ himself,
actually get his parade, doesn't It doesn't offend me the
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way it might have in the past, not so much
of the parade part, but Kenlee Jansen reunion, because you
know it would be a one year deal. He's not
going to be looking for twenty mil anymore. We're looking
at maybe a a ten twelve million dollar contract, maybe
even less. Maybe you can get him eight or something
like that. Because he is coming back home. He understands, like,
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I don't know they have money to pay for him.
I don't really know how that works. It's not my money.
I don't need to care about the contract logistics of it.
But you can get him on a one year deal,
and that's I think the key here is one or
two one year deal guys, whether it's a Hellsley and
a Kenley, Pete Fairbanks and Ryan Helsley, something like that.
I don't think they play into like some people are
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thinking they might. I don't think they play into the
Edwin Diaz or more so the Devin Williams, Robert Suarez market.
I don't see that in above, but Nightingale's mentioned that
they could be playing in that market, amongst others. I
don't see it. I really don't.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's why I'm the one year deal stuff. I'm pretty
confident with that. I think it's if it's a one year,
like I said, with a mutual or maybe a player
option something. I don't think they'll go player option. I
think it'll be one year, big aav Let him go
get paid in one year, Let Helsley get paid in
one year, and if it works out great, then he
gets to parlay that into another contract that he deserved
(33:34):
if the you know, this hiccup doesn't happen with the
mets uh and I think that's just the perfect target.
I think he would be into that. Reset yourself and
the Dodger would say, you take care, thank you for
the you know, thank you for this back end dominance
that we appreciate the hell out of. And hopefully it's that,
you know, with another World Series title. But I think
that would be a great move. He's you know, had
a lot of innings, a lot of mileage, but a
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lot of dominance, and his stuff all looks good. It's
just the pitch tippings stuff really brew itself up. So,
like I said, circling Ryan Helsley keeping it there, big
money av one year deal and if they want to
go get one more, they can. But I think they're
set on lefties on a stay away there and then
the Rioty's like you said, with the Kyle hurt and
then we haven'ty. We didn't even talk Roki, we didn't
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even talk starting. But it's a matter of they have
I think enough in the bullpen to make that happen,
because No Blake tried it anymore. So they're gonna have
to find Dave Roberts gonna have to find a new
favorite uh to go with in the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You mean no Blake trying to and just being that
high leverage guy. Obviously he's bast but yeah he's not
your your number one fire man for sure. So Dave
needs to find that that guy again. And I'm really
hoping it ends up being Ben Conspiraus. I love the
dude in relief. I think he he couldn't really get
back into a good rhythm after he was told he
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was gonna start, and then never really became a starter.
It just the season sort of unraveled from their first
two months. I mean we were big time Benny ca
You know the true three times when you're talking about
Benny Capps. Year number three in the big leagues is
going to be very good for Ben Caspari. The same
with Rabeleski. I mean with that dude, you've got future
closure stuff as well out of Robleski. But that sounds
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like a conversation for a different show. We're not talking
so much about the guys that are here. We're talking
about the guys they need to go out and get.
And I do have a final the third big need,
and I'm calling this kind of it's the wild card
because there are really two big needs. It's a bullpen
arm and an outfielder. That's obvious. But I think there's
going to be a move no one is expecting. Could
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it be signing it Infielder Alex Brigman is a free
agent coming off of a nice season with Boston Boba
Shed has been linked to this this team at different
points in time, maybe to play second, try to play
them at third, try to play them at short. And
that is not an indictment on any of the guys
that are currently on this Dodgers roster. Of course, we
know Munyataka Murakami is a free agent coming over. I
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don't think the Dodgers are going to be in on
him personally, or there's always the fan favagorte of every
off season Nolan Aernato trade platoon with Muncie. I don't
know that. Could it be an infielder thoughts on that,
you know, the wild card aspect of a third need for.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
This team, I would say it's a it's a veteran
starter who can have eat some innings. I'm going to
say that someone who can go out. It's like the
James Paxton's greatest thing was that he didn't miss a
start in his time with the Dodgers, and then when
they got rid of him, it was that, you know,
thank you for your service. So I appreciate the hell
out of it. So I'm gonna say, yeah, yeah, here's
your ring. I'm going to say, here, it's a starting
pitcher that could go out and rubber arm can just
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pitch every fifth, sixth day, depending how they do it,
and just fill them in there as someone who's willing
to pitch in any role. That's that's the sneaky move
that I see can never have too much pitching. The
Dodgers proved that's the case, and it carried them to
a World Series title with all upper echelon guys. So
I'm gonna stay right there. It's going to be a
veterans starting pitcher. I haven't had a chance to look
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at who I love out of that group, but there
are enough rubber arm veteran guys that can fill that need.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah. I mean this is a little known dude, Trek
Scooble as well. Tiger's apparently willing to listen, you know,
for for trade offers out there for Trek Scooble. He
think there's a there's any sort of world just for
the sake of people here who desperately want Trek Scooble
to be a Dodger. Do you think there's some sort
of world where Detroit would be dumb enough to trade
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away their superstar.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I mean, any anything is possible, Clint I untouchable stuff
in Major League Baseball. It's just outside of you know,
players having a no trade clause. Those things can unless
the guy just refuses to leave and loves where he's at.
But Trek Scooble deserves to get paid what he's you
know what, how he can pitch. He deserves to be
one of the highest, if not the number one paid
(37:50):
starting pitcher in Major League Baseball, you know, perhaps ever, yeah,
the stuff we've never seen before, So he deserves that.
Can the Tigers gamble just running it back without the
security blanket that he's under contract for an extended period
of time. Does he want to pitch that way? You know,
he might just have to. But can the Tigers walk
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away from this with just a qualifying offer at the
very back end of his tenure in Detroit? That would sting.
That would kill And I think that would be if
there's no chance you can pay him and he's just
he's out, like he's you can win in these conversations
if you get there and he just at a certain
point he goes to you know, the brass and says,
that's it. I'm done. We're not you know, we have
nothing more to talk about. I'm gonna pitch the duration
(38:32):
of my contract and that's my time. Can the Tigers'
front office do it? Yes, they can just just you know,
go down with the ship of getting no return. But
it would be incredibly bad. Business for them not to
explore the best offer that they can get. So, yes, Clint,
there is a world that the Los Angeles Dodgers put
a get put together a massive package, and that's where
I would be at. So if they do it right,
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it's possible. Man.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You guys heard it here first. Scott Geerman confirms the
Dodger are gonna be all the way in on Trek's
Google this winter. I mean, how could you not? You
know same? I know people also want Paul Skiings. Skens
isn't going anywhere. The pirates aren't trading away their meal
ticket there for that they can use for another couple
of years. But the fact that, like getting back to
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to your idea, I it wouldn't be shocking to see
them add a starter that just gives them some innings,
somebody that's gonna fill what Clayton gave them during this
run during the regular season, and then be like, all right,
we don't necessarily really need you or you mentioned James
Paxson as well, getting that arm. Just give give me,
give us one hundred innings, eighty innings, one hundred twenty innings.
Maybe I'm not opposed to, you know, Yamamoto getting plenty
(39:40):
of rests in the early parts of the season. Don't
need to burn them out because the most important time
this team is making the postseason. They're probably winning the division. Again,
you need to have everybody ready to go maxed out
in the month of October. But it's gonna be an
interesting offseason. Man, it's so weird, like where again, there
there are there are needs, there are obvious needs, but
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there's no clear path for how to fix this team.
It's been a while. It's been a while where there
hasn't been a very clear and obvious path. This is
the definite way you go. You get one of these
guys here, you go out and you know, resigned taoscar
and Land another starter or whatever it is. I'm looking
forward to it, man, I know you're looking forward to
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The name of all those is Kyle Tucker. I do
have some concerns with Kyle Tucker and making him one
of the highest paid outfielders in the game.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What is going on? Party people? I'm hosting the show,
so I say party people for some reason. My name
is Clint Piscias. That guy over there is Scott Gearman
filling in for Alana Rizzo. Today. Welcome to Dodgers Territory,
a Monday edition of the show. And today on the show,
Scott you already know because we talked about it. We're
diving in to the three biggest needs in our view,
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the three bixed needs for the Dodgers over the twenty
twenty twenty twenty six offseason. Dodgers just won a World Series.
They need to try to run it back. They need
to try to get better. How will they get better?
There's nobody better I'd like to talk to than Scott
about that kind of stuff before we dive into it, though,
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all that kind of stuff. So anyways, let's dive in
a little bit of pleasantries to begin with, Scott, we
haven't talked in a little while. How you doing basking
in the glow of back to back World championships.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, just you know, excited to be here. It's good
to talk to you, man, It's good to be here
with the chat. Look, Dodgers back to back champs a
little bit over a week ago. Now, you know, last
week I was out at the stadium celebrating and it
was able to see the boys and that was great
to be among all. What you know, the biggest takeaway
I had from that, Clint, is that when tickets are
priced accordingly and you can get as many fans in
(01:39):
the stands as who you know, die hard love this team,
you get a crazy atmosphere. So that was really cool
to see. So I was stoked to be at that.
I was stoked to enjoy it, and it just it
really did something for me. And you know, to be
able to be in the stadium, man, and just take
all of that in. So as I sit right now,
yes we have to turn the page and look toward
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the offseason here, but I'm going to continue and enjoy this.
As you knows as a fan of a repeat champion team,
you know, not much we can complain about. Man, we
could just just sit back and just let it unfold.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, that's a tough part. It's like, how how soon
do you start going, you know, headfirst into looking at
next season. We know the front office is, but hey,
we're in this weird position of being fans but also
you know, analysts. We talk about this team, we tell
people about this team, and we also want to enjoy
and basking that that glory of what this team just accomplished,
(02:31):
which hasn't been done in twenty five years. Well, that
is now done. We don't talk about the Yankees anymore,
the ninety nine, two thousand Yankees. We talk about the
twenty four to twenty five Dodgers and maybe the twenty
twenty six Dodgers. They ruined baseball in twenty twenty five,
they'll be looking to do it again. And you know what,
that's not my problem. Always love this front end again.
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The concept of today's show, three big needs for the Dodgers,
no big surprises. We already talked about this. You know,
different ways shapes and forms over the course of this.
Now you know early offseason Dodgers need an outfielder Scott.
We know this. Michael Confordo was a dud in twenty
twenty five, and like I talked about here on the
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channel last week, he's not gonna be back in twenty
twenty six. I know, shocking breaking news there. We know
this team is in an advantageous position to improve. You know,
not too often you get to improve the roster after
winning a World Series, after ruining baseball. They're spending all
this money, but a whole bunch of cash coming off
the books. Here Bob Knightingale pointing out eighty seven million
(03:40):
dollars when you add up all the pieces, of course,
finally being out from under that Chris Taylor contract, kirbyates
off the books, Kershaw, Confordo, so on and so forth.
That's a lot of money. It's a lot of cheddar
and it could go towards you know, the biggest area
of need in that outfield. You need a left fielder
or maybe a senior fielder. So it's how do they
look to reload that outfield and this offseason or could
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they maybe look to reconfigure it where you do get
a center fielder, move Paz to right and talk Tao
into going to left. Not that Pat hasn't necessarily bad
in center field anymore, but you could still find ways
they get to be creative.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That is what's it's been talked about. Yeah, it's something
that with with po has that's been talked about. And
we've seen, you know, how how well his arm plays
in a corner spot. We've seen it a number of times.
He gets to put there in spot duty uh and
pi Ha his' arm is something that he can show
off whill you look at it and you're like, there's
a little bit of puigue in there. There's a little
bit of puigue in there, Clint that you can see him,
you know, gun somebody out. He's got a good field
and I think with extended time in a corner slot
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he could do it. He's young and he's athletic. He'll
figure it out. But it's just been when push came
to shove, can the Dodgers secure a center fielder. It's
like we had with Kevin Kiermeyer, with someone out there
who can go get it any spot in the outfield.
It was someone you feel comfortable roaming center field. Do
they attack that do they just say, you know, Andy
pi has you've got the reins in center field. We'll
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see how things play out. There's a couple of names
that we could talk about who can man a spot.
I don't know if it's there's one out there and
it's the top name on the market, I would say,
aside from Kyle Kyle Tucker, we'll talk about him too,
But I would say Clint that a lot of the
slots that way they can fill in or in a
corner spot, which is I would say, you know, left field.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, left field for sure. I do have a list
of my view of the top free agent names available.
We'll get into trade targets as well. But yeah, Kyle
Tucker right at the top of that list. Uh, clear,
clear favorite free agent outfield. They're available of course, old
friend Cody Bellinger, old enemy Trent Grisham in there, Harrison Bader,
Dodger's been linked to, We're linked to in the past,
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former Giant Mike Streemsky and hey, Cedric Mullens another name
this team has been linked to in the past. Now
with all of those names there, there's there's two kind
of paths. There's clear paths that Dodgers can go with.
They can either get way better or they can try
to run it. Run the canfordo idea back, get a small,
a small splash, and and hopefully hold out for the
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fact that one of the minor league outfielders they have,
of which they have a ton of talent in the
minor league, is hopefully one of those guys make some
huge leaps forward, is able to help this team next year.
But looking at that list, looking at those names, of course,
Kyle Tucker, Cody Bellinger pop right off the list. For me,
I would rather see this team play in the upper
eche line of the market rather than just try to
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make a filler, you know, help this team out. Worth noting,
I said it last week a few times. Alex call
is still on this roster as well. He's somebody who
could and should be around to help out with the outfield.
But of those names, sort of the six names I
had thrown on the screen, who do you want the
most and who do you think this team could actually
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you know, target the most of the free agency board. Well,
we'll talk trades in a little bit as well.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, a couple of different spots you could dive into
if your look of course, like the name of all
those is Kyle Tucker. I do have some concerns with
Kyle Tucker and making him one of the highest paid
outfielders in the game. I really do. And I think
that's fair because you know some of the things as
far as you know how much he loves the game,
how much he's dedicated to the game. Uh. And do
you want when you line up? I know you know
(07:07):
Sarah's had a great segment. Uh, And I want to
give him credit to this at it's stuff that you've
pointed out, but he put it very eloquently that he
does a lot of things really good. But nothing about
Kyle Tucker is overall elite. He's been exceptional with the bat.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Defensively, you know, he's not incredible. He's going to he
can steal you some bags, but he's definitely a superior
left handed bat. But can you say that you're going
to hand another guy in his thirties a MAX contract,
a big time contract? Can you put him up there
with you know, the biggest names in Major League Baseball?
Do fans do the Dodgers want to handcuff himself to
(07:44):
another you know, big time contract that's going to go
into their like later thirty year old years, and that's
something for me, I'm hesitant of it. Again, I always
have to preface it that it's not my money. So
if they do it, they do it, and they and
if that's if it falls life. But with Kyle Tucker Flint,
it's more so that if the market materializes the way
that it possibly can, teams see this, he could follow
(08:07):
in their lap and they can get something to do
what they wanted to do with Bryce harpern High aav
low years. But I think Kyle Tucker is going to
go for you know, a big deal. The next one
is Cody Bellinger and it's someone there's been a few
projections out there six you know, six years, if you
want to add one in after that, around one hundred
and sixty you know, plus million. It's someone I'm intrigued by.
(08:30):
But if you look at where he's at currently, Clint,
he's been terrific. Tody Belinger since he left LA has
you know, really grabbed a hold of his true game.
And I could feel comfortable doing it, but I know
you said you want to stay in the high tier.
But I'm just letting you know that Mike Yastremsky is
someone that I've got circled for me as another one
(08:51):
year guy doesn't have exceptional range, has an arm. But
I from what I saw and I know fans got
this and I know you know it too. Against right
handed pitchers in the outfield, Michael Confordo was supposed to
fill that need. He couldn't do it. He didn't have
it in him. He didn't make it happen. He actually
was the reason that the Dodgers didn't go back into
the trade market at the deadline to find that bat
(09:14):
to fill that void. So if they don't want to
pay the top dollar, and they don't want to pay
Cody Bellinger, they don't want to pay Kyle Tucker. Market
turns out that way. Yastremski has been really good versus
right handed pitching, and that's someone that I can see,
you know, Yestremsky eight to eight ops against righty, So
he would be a strict platoon and that's someone with
Alex call and the roster is the way I could
(09:36):
do it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I love the idea of a platoon and that
that is one of the cheaper routes for sure if
you go to the Mike Yastremsky route. I know some
folks will have issues with it being a longtime Giant
or whatever. I don't care. I just want to see
this team get better and you know, be set up
in a better position to put some runs on the
board in the postseason, something they struggled with. They didn't.
(10:00):
It's not necessarily on that left field spot. It wasn't
necessarily because key k a Hernandez didn't go into full
keek tober mode. But they can. They are in a
position where they can get some help. And I really love,
you know, when they initially let Cody Bellinger go, it
made all of the sense of the world. He was
trying to find something that wasn't really ever there. What
(10:22):
we saw in twenty nineteen, that is not Cody Bellinger's game.
He is not that player. He can have some hot
streaks here and there, for sure, He's a very good
baseball player, I think, and I don't know if you
agree with this, this you know, kind of sentiment on it, Scott,
I feel like, you know, Cody's floor, or probably his
his average was more of what we saw on him
(10:42):
out of him in twenty eighteen, which is a very
good baseball player. Wasn't what we saw in his rookie year,
wasn't what we saw in twenty nineteen as well. He's
not an MVP. He's still a very very good baseball player.
And if he comes back, play some left field for
this team, play some right field for this team in
twenty six maybe spells Freddie Freeman at force here and there.
I am not against it, you know. I think there
(11:04):
is a time and a place for a Cody Bellinger
reunion as long as it's right, and this might be
the offseason for a Cody return. You dive more into
that in the second. But on Kyle Tucker, obviously, this
is the biggest and best name out there. That fact
probably hurts the team a little bit in that he's
going to be looking for that ten year deal and
(11:25):
I don't know that he is a thirty five million
dollars a year player. I agree. I agree. Hey, it's
not my money. It is not our money, absolutely, but
in a way it is our money because we'll have
to be spending more. Fans will have to be spending
more at Dodger Stadium. If you do go out there
and try to land at Kyle Tucker the ten years though.
I think that's the thing that worries me the most,
(11:47):
knowing that there are and abundance of names coming up
with host Way to Paula, Zayer, Hope, Mike Sirota, James Tims,
Tips the third who they just traded for during the
trade deadline last year in the Dustin May deal, Kendall
George at himself a hell of a season, very underrated dude,
Like they have a but ton of outfield talent that's
(12:07):
maybe two three years away, and to be stuck stuck
with somebody for ten more years, even if it is
Kyle Tucker, that's where you know, like I really want
to see this team eventually start to use its prospect
power again because we haven't seen it in a while.
You haven't really seen it since Will Smith, if we're
(12:28):
being honest, and you know, Dalton Rushing was a bit
of a dud last year. Maybe he's somebody who could
they could try to slot into an outfield spot again
or something like that, even though it doesn't look like
he profiles like an outfielder that can run. They're in
an interesting spot. But if you are able to go
out there and drop some cash to get better. Tucker Bellinger. Yeah,
they're gonna be at the top of my list and
(12:49):
we're looking at free agency.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, so look like it's the topic we can We'll
have this bleed into the trade conversation as well, because
a lot of people, you know, there's something that I'm
holding out hope for is that, Uh, there's been some
stuff made in the past about the Dodge's ability to
develop bats and develop a you know, prospect that has
a plus bat tool and have that translate to the
big league game. Will Smith has won, Andy Pater has
(13:13):
had a stellar regular season, fizzled out, you know, in
a hard way in the post, and that's something that
stuck out to everybody. And what we'll talk about this
and tease it up and then we'll go more into
the explanation at the trade route and why it's not
that I'm hesitant to sign someone. If they do, they do,
and that's that's they're making the best roster they can.
(13:34):
But if the front office and the player development believe
that some of these young guys that prospects and siroto
some fast risers we've got going on here, uh, and
can they be the guy. Do you want to have
a log jam again at a big league slot where
a young player is ready to go and there's just
no room to play him every day? Because that's what
these young bats need. They need a runway, they need
(13:56):
they don't need a little bit of time. Dolt Rushing
had nothing to prove in Triple A and they brought
him up and he didn't play on a regular basis.
So now it's what the hell do we have in
Dalton Rushing? So do they find a spot for him
to play with Will Smith? He's not going to catch,
so where the heck are you going to play him?
So that's the conversation with the outfield. You've got some
guys who can command this slot. They can do it.
(14:18):
It's now can it translate? And that's what with the
big deal? It might not happen that way. So there's
a couple of ways they can get out of this. Trades, Ti,
Oscar and Andez. We could figure some things out, but
we'll talk about that with trades.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
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us bring you more DT along the way. Let's get
back into the nitty gritty with gritty Scotti g here
talked about out the free agent side of it, looking
at all the talent this team does have when it
comes to pitching talent at the minor league level. Some
of those outfield names that we've mentioned as well, there
(16:25):
is a name, there's a few names. There's one name
that was linked were I think we were all really
really hoping they would be a little heavier linked into
that being not gonna go to Stephen kuanway. I'm going
the Jared Duran way. But look at I think there's
really only three trade targets, and one of them at
Byron Buckston. He said he's not gonna be traded. But anyways,
on the screen here if you're listening, we got Jared Duran,
(16:47):
we got Byron Buckston, we got Stephen Kwan. Those are
gonna be probably the three biggest trade names. I got
one more bonus trade name in a second, But of
those three, I'm sure you agree, Jared Duran is the
guy who makes the most sense for this club. He
can play a little bit of center field, because I
would love to see somebody with enough athleticism to also
play centerfield. They're already kind of stuck in a way
(17:09):
with a bunch of corner guys and just trying to
figure it out. Jaron could play some left, he can
play some center. Don't know about right. But you don't
need that. You have that one covered. Buckston would be awesome,
says he doesn't want to leave Minnesota, but also maybe
at some point in his career he wants to see,
you know, win baseball games in the October, win a
World Series or something like that, and then Kwan, people
(17:30):
have kind of soured on of those three. Just just
kind of dive in, you know, give me your thoughts
on all three of those names.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Sure, yeah, Byron Buckson would be an astronomical price. That
would be one that we haven't seen for quite some time.
He'd be he's a hell of a player, Byron Buckston
when he's on field, He's a five tool guy. He's
exceptional injury history there. So it's not that I'm crossing
him off. It's that if that does happen, it'll materialize,
you know, in the background. I don't know how much
we'll hear about.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It sounds like a dodgy to me right there, if
we're being honest again with an injury you know.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
What I mean, fit right in there. But it's you know,
it's not that I'm crossing him off. It's just I
don't see that being the case. It's definitely something with
a ton of intrigue for you know, just as immense
the ceiling there is something that it changes, you know,
a spot in the order. He's definitely a name with
Stephen Kwan. You know, the Bob Nightingale report is something
(18:20):
that I that he reported that the Dodgers are going
to be re engaging in talks to acquire Stephen Kwan
this offseason because they how much they pursued him at
this past deadline. And that's something that I believe to
be true. I will say that right like, I really
do believe that to be the case. It's not that
I can co sign, it's that one hundred percent believe
that they're re engaging in those talks. They pursued him heavily.
(18:43):
I think it's more about Clint the stability of a
player like an outfielder that's not going to break the bank,
and it's having the wiggle room with players still in arbitration.
That's where you have Jared Durant still has Arbiers left,
Stephen Kwan still has Arber's left. He has two years
of team control here, whereas Jared Duran has three years
(19:03):
of team control. So following the twenty twenty eight season,
he's a free agent there. Stephen Kwan including this twenty
twenty six year, Following the twenty twenty seventh season, he
will be a free agent. So I think it's more
of the stability in between Jared Duran and Stephen Kwan.
I've got cases for both. I've long said that you
don't pay a high premium for a contact type of guy.
(19:24):
But if they're selling the Dodgers' front office is selling
me on the stability of an outfield position with a
glove that they can see in a left handed bat,
then I can get on board with either one. I
don't like the high priced premium, but if they're searching
for a stability without a big contract paid you know,
pay tag, you know price tag, I'm okay with it.
I can be bought into it. It's not my priority
(19:46):
list of Stephen Kwan, but Jared Duran, with how good
he can be against right handed pitching, I'm gonna keep
highlighting this. Everybody says they couldn't hit lefties. I think
the Dodgers really, you know, missed out on having someone,
whether it to platoon, bat off the bench, in the
you know, starting lineup with an outfielder. That's where they
missed a lot. And I think with Jared Duran, he's
(20:07):
someone who has plus plus speed, he's an aggressive base runner.
I don't think the defensive metrics with him are anything
you can buy into because of the big Green monster
and Fenway, so playing left field is really tough out there,
so it's someone that if they're able to do it,
I believe Jared Duran will be out of Boston because
of how much outfield depth they have. It's someone that
I've got right at my one, and then Stephen Kwan
(20:30):
probably after that. If it's the trade.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Route, yeah, trade route. I mean overall, between all the
names we've kind of talked about, between free agency and trade,
I honestly think Jared Duran is my number one overall.
From there, maybe it's Bellinger than Kyle Tucker, than Stephen
Kwan because I'm weird like that. You know. Again, there
are just some issues, long term issues with the Kyle
(20:53):
Tucker thing that that gives me a little pause. They
already have so many contracts. What it's Showy o'tney under
team controlled through twenty twenty three or Sorry twenty thirty three,
Yamamoto twenty thirty five, Mookie twenty thirty two, Will Smith
twenty thirty three. You know, paying another thirty five million
dollars for somebody into their forties or almost into their forties,
(21:13):
it's it's it can raise an eyebrow, and you don't
want to end up like the Padres who are stuck
with all of these very much aging stars who you know,
can't quite figure out how to win. Jaron Durand's name.
There's another one I wanted to bring up, just to
potentially maybe ruffle some feathers. But we heard in the
early in the off season, at least early in Philadelphia's offseason,
(21:35):
that hey, there's a chance there's a chance the Phillies
might be entertaining training Bryce Harper. Oh man, I know
it's a stupid idea as the first baseman now, but
if they are going to look to offload some salary,
some payroll there, if they've become disenchanted with with Bryce Harper,
(21:56):
which I think Dave Dombrowski went on foul foul territory
and said, like, no, we're keeping Bryce Harper. He's not
going anywhere. He's a part of our plans. You know,
words don't mean much in the offseason. The Dodgers have
some talent they could stand to cut some payroll. Obviously,
this is dumb. This is just for me because I
(22:17):
like to do this because I know it upsets people.
But could there be a scenario where the Dodgers can
package something together, get Bryce Harper back over in LA's elbows.
Not back over, but at least in that eighteen twenty
nineteen offseason, it felt like he was going to be
a Dodger. The elbows healed up. He could play left field,
he could play right field, and we know the bat
is good. Thoughts on a Bryce Harper potential.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Trade, I mean they could do it, They could, The
Dogs could make anything happen with the contract that the prospects,
they could make anything happen. The likelihood of it, that
would spell the end of the Philadelphia Phillies, this little
window that I think their window has been extended as
far as it could go. That's why they have some
big offseason and decisions to make real Muto Schwarber, They've
(23:03):
got a lot to figure out there, Ranja Suarez. So
the likelihood of that, I'm going to say like a
two percent because it's all anything as possible. But if
Bryce Harper was moved out of Philadelphia, it would spell
the end of anything they potentially have going on there
because he's a franchise guy. He is someone who's a
tone setter. Don't think it's a fit for La. He'd
(23:23):
be a great, a great piece, but I don't think
a trade like that, you know, would happen.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hey, I was told in the Freddie Freeman offseason there
was less than ten percent chance of Freddy to come
into coming to the Dodgers. So give me that little
bit of an inch. We'll see. I they could take aim.
While of course Bryce is getting on into age as well,
so do you want to be still stuck with another
eight years of contract or whatever. But the limited trade
market might force some creativity. And the thing is ultimately
(23:52):
the root of it. We had we had a whole
bunch of conversation last night on my old Dodger show
of you know, can they run it back almost as is?
And this team is good enough, They are built enough
as is right now without you know, major splashes, just
bringing back, yes, a Miggy Row or maybe a Keiki
a Hernandez. They have enough talent to at least challenge
for a title again in twenty twenty six. So right now, yeah, listen,
(24:13):
I don't want to say it's a house money type
of offseason, but you're coming off back to back titles.
Alls you're playing for is the pride of saying you
went back to back to back, which is pretty damn cool.
I think it would be an absolute failure if they
don't make any moves. I think the fan base would
and should be upset if they didn't make any moves.
But they don't need to go out and chase a move,
(24:35):
which is something I absolutely love. That said. They're still
gonna make a splash in the outfield market. Yeah this winter.
Any final thoughts on that field before we switch.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, I mean, look and Chaddill agree with this. We've
seen this you as well, that the Dodgers in the
front office just to make moves on the margins. And
just like you said, it's they're going to continue to
make moves on the margins here. I think they have
the pieces everyone forgets. You know, has Kim how he's
going to factor in the health of Tommy Edmund's ankle?
Canny Man center field? How much time is he going
to take? What are they going to do? The trade
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route with the two arbitration years is a sexy route
for me to take, just in the one year deal thing,
because I want to have them with the wiggle room
if these you you know, if if Jared Duran or
Stephen Kwan, if they work out, then you extend them
go ahead. If they don't and you want to just
pay them through arbitration, that's it, and then they go
free slap a qualifying offer however you want to do it.
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If they haven't already been offered that at some point
in their career, then you have the opportunity for some
of the young guys to have that slot open. So
that's the route that I think, you know, I prefer,
and I think the front office is going to pursue initially.
If not, then they're going to say, maybe we dip.
Maybe we we you know, we dip into the long
term stuff. Cody Bellinger can take over at first base,
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you know, after that center field and the outfield dreams
go ahead. Freddie Is you know, is his contract is up.
There's routes that they can go that things can work out.
The Dodgers are, like you said, in a house money
situation where a lot of maneuvers fit their needs and
their current trajectory. Uh. And so that's why it's for
fans don't get too hyped up and you know, to
(26:10):
upset if they miss out on the big tickets. There's
a lot of routes that they can take where they're
an incredible spot. I saw somebody in Chad mentioning that,
you know, if you get too many of the same guys,
they're not gonna like the Yankee style hitters. They're not
gonna have the same success. They just went back to
back titles. They can do whatever the hell they want.
They're on a trajectory that they've got the formula that
can work out for them and they're going to be
(26:32):
anchored by this starting pitching. So it's just a matter
of getting the guys that can, you know, fill the slots.
They need to produce enough runs and enough stuff in
the clubhouse to make it all work.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, don't need to win the offseason this offseason, and
that is a really really good position to be in,
especially when you're coming off of winning a World Series. Well,
another area that this is this is you know that
was Big Need number one talking about it for almost
twenty five minutes, Big Need number two. We know the
bullpen needs a little bit of help. Maybe this kind
of an ellipses, and it may be in there because
(27:04):
there are a bunch of names that are going to
maybe be available. You know, they're come back being healthy
at some point you hope Evan Phillips will be back
from from Tommy John later in the season. You have
Bruce Dark Gratterol returning next year hopefully. I put this
graphic up on Thursday's edition of the show. But you
know a couple of names that are potential starters heading
(27:26):
into spring training. Yeah, but looking at Kyle Hurt, Ben Casparis,
Justin Rableski, those three dudes in particular, really really, in
my opinion, help out this bullpen in twenty twenty six.
But the same time, there are free agents, there are
big names out there. There, there's a number of closers.
(27:47):
I am banking on the fact that ten Or Scott
will be better in twenty twenty six. Maybe not better enough.
He doesn't need to be the closer in my opinion,
But I also don't think they need to land a closer.
But how do you add to a bull pen that
was non existent By the time we got to Game
five of the World Series, the bullpen was no no
the breaking case of emergency. We're sticking with Yamamoto in
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every you know, waking breath that we can and some
other starters, some of the guys that are out there,
of course, free agent relievers. You know, the big names.
Edwin Diaz, Devin Williams, Robert Suarez bailed out of that
sinking ship in San Diego. Ryan Helsley's a guy the
Dodgers have been linked to a number of times. Had
a really, really bad go of it after being traded
last year. Pete Fairbanks, who Scott? I think you and
(28:32):
I could both agree he's just gonna be a Dodger,
that's a fact. And Kenley Jansen and I threw on
this list who would love to come back home? Doesn't
need to be a closer. If he signs her to
be a closer, I don't want him. But obviously those
guys make a splash, but all have different levels of
commitment and money. Edwin Diaz not gonna be a Dodger,
(28:53):
we could just throw that out there. But any of
those other names intrigue you, Maybe Devin Williams by low
right now? Yeah, any of the other names you there
for this.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Club, Yeah, Devin Williams. Devin Williams definitely intriguing. He had
a second half resurgence with the Yankees. There. If it's
they're able to get him on a one year deal.
For the record, I think the Dodgers are going to
go after one year deal relievers, perhaps with an option there,
you know, a club option, mutual option, and then go
from there. But I'm in the one year route just
like you said, I don't see them dipping into the
(29:23):
mega contract with Edwin Diaz or anything in that matter.
Ryan Helsley is the name that is on there that's
super intriguing. His time with the Mets was very bad.
He costs himself a lot of money, and I think
he'd be a perfect candidate for a one year if
you want to go give him, you know, sixteen through
eighteen million for a one year. He's had some issues
(29:45):
with pitch tipping, and I think with the Mets that
really came to a head and it really blew up.
His stuff was all looked the same, his metrics were
all about the same, usage was right on par. They
didn't change much there. But he was pushed into a setup,
high leverage role and it really did and work with him.
As Krai dropped a little bit, walk rate spiked a
little bit, but his pitch tipping, I think in a
(30:05):
new environment, you know, getting hit maybe hit a little
bit kind of all blew up in his face there.
So he's a one year guy. You get him at
the back end, let him get in fix the pitch
tipping issue. There's great videos about that. I think that's
someone who would be an intriguing piece at the back end.
But I'm a one year deal guy, and one you
don't have on there, Clint is someone that I've been
(30:27):
hoping that the Dodgers could get back is Chris Martin.
He's someone that he is just a journeyman guy for
a number of years. He has done it. He's thirty
nine years old. He can just he's just pitch. He's
a rubber arm type of guy. He's had some injuries,
but he's someone that you can get on a one year,
super low money deal. He's just going to go out
(30:47):
there and pitch. He's been one of the most productive
relievers for you know, seven eight years. So it's someone
that I'm always been interested in and I would love
to bring him back. That's the dart throw man. But
if they just want to get someone who's a rubber arm,
but Ryan Helsley's the number one for me as a
closer spot and on a one year you know, prove
a deal and then go let him make some more
money on the free agent market.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, I love the idea of Hellsley. I think for
all the reasons you listed, that's where it makes the
most sense, as long as it is that one year
kind of proved deal, because in my opinion, in my view,
this is a guy that is literally just replacing Kirby Yates,
who was not a part of the postseason bullpen, rightfully so.
But somebody who's replacing what Kirby Yates was supposed to
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do for this team, which was supposed to replace what
Dan Hudson had din for the team, particularly in twenty
twenty four. That veteran that gives you some moxie, can
can get you out of a tough you know, bases loaded,
no out, Maybe get you out of a basil loaded
no out situation in the sixth inning, or save a
game for you in the ninth Somebody that has some
flexibility that is willing to use it. You know, it's weird.
(31:53):
I've been for a while very against the idea of
a Kenley Jansen reunion. He's been prettyf and decent since
leaving LA last year, had a really, really nice year
with Anaheim where there's absolutely nothing to play for. Letting
the dude, given the dude an opportunity to come back
and win another title, be a two time champ himself,
actually get his parade, doesn't It doesn't offend me the
(32:18):
way it might have in the past, not so much
of the parade part, but Kenlee Jansen reunion, because you
know it would be a one year deal. He's not
going to be looking for twenty mil anymore. We're looking
at maybe a a ten twelve million dollar contract, maybe
even less. Maybe you can get him eight or something
like that. Because he is coming back home. He understands, like,
(32:39):
I don't know they have money to pay for him.
I don't really know how that works. It's not my money.
I don't need to care about the contract logistics of it.
But you can get him on a one year deal,
and that's I think the key here is one or
two one year deal guys, whether it's a Hellsley and
a Kenley, Pete Fairbanks and Ryan Helsley, something like that.
I don't think they play into like some people are
(33:00):
thinking they might. I don't think they play into the
Edwin Diaz or more so the Devin Williams, Robert Suarez market.
I don't see that in above, but Nightingale's mentioned that
they could be playing in that market, amongst others. I
don't see it. I really don't.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's why I'm the one year deal stuff. I'm pretty
confident with that. I think it's if it's a one year,
like I said, with a mutual or maybe a player
option something. I don't think they'll go player option. I
think it'll be one year, big aav Let him go
get paid in one year, Let Helsley get paid in
one year, and if it works out great, then he
gets to parlay that into another contract that he deserved
(33:34):
if the you know, this hiccup doesn't happen with the
mets uh and I think that's just the perfect target.
I think he would be into that. Reset yourself and
the Dodger would say, you take care, thank you for
the you know, thank you for this back end dominance
that we appreciate the hell out of. And hopefully it's that,
you know, with another World Series title. But I think
that would be a great move. He's you know, had
a lot of innings, a lot of mileage, but a
(33:56):
lot of dominance, and his stuff all looks good. It's
just the pitch tippings stuff really brew itself up. So,
like I said, circling Ryan Helsley keeping it there, big
money av one year deal and if they want to
go get one more, they can. But I think they're
set on lefties on a stay away there and then
the Rioty's like you said, with the Kyle hurt and
then we haven'ty. We didn't even talk Roki, we didn't
(34:17):
even talk starting. But it's a matter of they have
I think enough in the bullpen to make that happen,
because No Blake tried it anymore. So they're gonna have
to find Dave Roberts gonna have to find a new
favorite uh to go with in the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You mean no Blake trying to and just being that
high leverage guy. Obviously he's bast but yeah he's not
your your number one fire man for sure. So Dave
needs to find that that guy again. And I'm really
hoping it ends up being Ben Conspiraus. I love the
dude in relief. I think he he couldn't really get
back into a good rhythm after he was told he
(34:51):
was gonna start, and then never really became a starter.
It just the season sort of unraveled from their first
two months. I mean we were big time Benny ca
You know the true three times when you're talking about
Benny Capps. Year number three in the big leagues is
going to be very good for Ben Caspari. The same
with Rabeleski. I mean with that dude, you've got future
closure stuff as well out of Robleski. But that sounds
(35:13):
like a conversation for a different show. We're not talking
so much about the guys that are here. We're talking
about the guys they need to go out and get.
And I do have a final the third big need,
and I'm calling this kind of it's the wild card
because there are really two big needs. It's a bullpen
arm and an outfielder. That's obvious. But I think there's
going to be a move no one is expecting. Could
(35:34):
it be signing it Infielder Alex Brigman is a free
agent coming off of a nice season with Boston Boba
Shed has been linked to this this team at different
points in time, maybe to play second, try to play
them at third, try to play them at short. And
that is not an indictment on any of the guys
that are currently on this Dodgers roster. Of course, we
know Munyataka Murakami is a free agent coming over. I
(35:57):
don't think the Dodgers are going to be in on
him personally, or there's always the fan favagorte of every
off season Nolan Aernato trade platoon with Muncie. I don't
know that. Could it be an infielder thoughts on that,
you know, the wild card aspect of a third need for.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
This team, I would say it's a it's a veteran
starter who can have eat some innings. I'm going to
say that someone who can go out. It's like the
James Paxton's greatest thing was that he didn't miss a
start in his time with the Dodgers, and then when
they got rid of him, it was that, you know,
thank you for your service. So I appreciate the hell
out of it. So I'm gonna say, yeah, yeah, here's
your ring. I'm going to say, here, it's a starting
pitcher that could go out and rubber arm can just
(36:34):
pitch every fifth, sixth day, depending how they do it,
and just fill them in there as someone who's willing
to pitch in any role. That's that's the sneaky move
that I see can never have too much pitching. The
Dodgers proved that's the case, and it carried them to
a World Series title with all upper echelon guys. So
I'm gonna stay right there. It's going to be a
veterans starting pitcher. I haven't had a chance to look
(36:56):
at who I love out of that group, but there
are enough rubber arm veteran guys that can fill that need.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah. I mean this is a little known dude, Trek
Scooble as well. Tiger's apparently willing to listen, you know,
for for trade offers out there for Trek Scooble. He
think there's a there's any sort of world just for
the sake of people here who desperately want Trek Scooble
to be a Dodger. Do you think there's some sort
of world where Detroit would be dumb enough to trade
(37:25):
away their superstar.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I mean, any anything is possible, Clint I untouchable stuff
in Major League Baseball. It's just outside of you know,
players having a no trade clause. Those things can unless
the guy just refuses to leave and loves where he's at.
But Trek Scooble deserves to get paid what he's you
know what, how he can pitch. He deserves to be
one of the highest, if not the number one paid
(37:50):
starting pitcher in Major League Baseball, you know, perhaps ever, yeah,
the stuff we've never seen before, So he deserves that.
Can the Tigers gamble just running it back without the
security blanket that he's under contract for an extended period
of time. Does he want to pitch that way? You know,
he might just have to. But can the Tigers walk
(38:11):
away from this with just a qualifying offer at the
very back end of his tenure in Detroit? That would sting.
That would kill And I think that would be if
there's no chance you can pay him and he's just
he's out, like he's you can win in these conversations
if you get there and he just at a certain
point he goes to you know, the brass and says,
that's it. I'm done. We're not you know, we have
nothing more to talk about. I'm gonna pitch the duration
(38:32):
of my contract and that's my time. Can the Tigers'
front office do it? Yes, they can just just you know,
go down with the ship of getting no return. But
it would be incredibly bad. Business for them not to
explore the best offer that they can get. So, yes, Clint,
there is a world that the Los Angeles Dodgers put
a get put together a massive package, and that's where
I would be at. So if they do it right,
(38:55):
it's possible. Man.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You guys heard it here first. Scott Geerman confirms the
Dodger are gonna be all the way in on Trek's
Google this winter. I mean, how could you not? You
know same? I know people also want Paul Skiings. Skens
isn't going anywhere. The pirates aren't trading away their meal
ticket there for that they can use for another couple
of years. But the fact that, like getting back to
(39:16):
to your idea, I it wouldn't be shocking to see
them add a starter that just gives them some innings,
somebody that's gonna fill what Clayton gave them during this
run during the regular season, and then be like, all right,
we don't necessarily really need you or you mentioned James
Paxson as well, getting that arm. Just give give me,
give us one hundred innings, eighty innings, one hundred twenty innings.
Maybe I'm not opposed to, you know, Yamamoto getting plenty
(39:40):
of rests in the early parts of the season. Don't
need to burn them out because the most important time
this team is making the postseason. They're probably winning the division. Again,
you need to have everybody ready to go maxed out
in the month of October. But it's gonna be an
interesting offseason. Man, it's so weird, like where again, there
there are there are needs, there are obvious needs, but
(40:02):
there's no clear path for how to fix this team.
It's been a while. It's been a while where there
hasn't been a very clear and obvious path. This is
the definite way you go. You get one of these
guys here, you go out and you know, resigned taoscar
and Land another starter or whatever it is. I'm looking
forward to it, man, I know you're looking forward to
talking a whole lot about it. Guys, make sure you
(40:23):
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Dodger Blue. So I appreciate you, guys. That's about it today. Guys,
(40:45):
we appreciate you hanging out with us. Let us know
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