Challenging Perceptions: Simone Biles, Ray Rice, and Lamar Jackson

Mike Hill and Eunice Elliot kickoff the new year sharing their perspective on Simone Biles/Jonathan Owens public reaction, Ray Rice - should a mistake define a person’s life, and the discussion of Lamar Jackson’s MVP numbers and his “quarterbacky” journey.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
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facts of kick back.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's here for sundare fit. That New Year We're still here,
twenty twenty four is here. It is the done.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
There have been that podcast with Mike Hill and mcgirl
Eunice Elliott.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Happy New Year, Units, Happy New Year, Mike Hill, twenty
twenty four. I am claiming victory over this year. Although
my team get n clay victory on New Year Day,
I'm gonna go out as a winner this year.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, both of our teams.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I went to the Rose Bowl, saw Alabama lose the
Michigan Shout out to Michigan. They played a great game.
They're going on to the National Championship Game. They're gonna
be playing Washington next week down in Houston. But we're
both Alabama and Crimson tied fans. We grew up in Alabama.
You went to the University of Alabama, so I know
it's a little bit more hearing near this to your heart.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
But shout out to both teams. Played an excellent game.
But once again, we're not gonna let sports define us.
We define sports. Even though sports is a Michael coll
In a society, some people take a little too seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
We love sports. I will stay as a Vama brad.
My senior year, we lost every bone game, including home timing.
Actually one of those rare Bama fans who knows how
to lose. But you know what, I think both playoff
games coming down to the final second, coming down to
overtime proves that the committee didn't get it so wrong.
So I think everybody enjoyed a lot of digital fall on. Yeah,

(01:25):
I want to stay jorid did we get it? We
get it now? Then listen. One of the things that
we got to enjoy was a long time off. We
just launched. Done there than that, and we enjoyed the
Christmas week off a boyd did We missed a bunch
of hubb up during the week, so we didn't want
to just touch on a couple of things can we
missed during the week while we were off, I actually
got quite a few text messages from people asking for

(01:47):
my small Biles take if you guys are not there?
First of all, where have you been? But uh Jonathan Owens, yes,
who small Viles husband was on the podcast and he
was actually there too. But anyway, then they the Pivot podcast,
they were talking to him and at one point he

(02:07):
was like, Okay, we don't want to talk to you
about football. We want to know how to get tom obiles.
And you know, I thought that was a very good
interesting question because you know, it was like, hey, if
we want to know how people looked up how they
connected some obile, says the sheriffy sure about how they
connected on the data app Rya is called raya, right,
And I was like, for upscale not necessarily celebrities, but

(02:28):
upscale people, they have a different betting process than most
dating caps. And he said they swiped in, you know
they met. Now the issue that I think most people
took with how he told or shared this story, what
is true or not? I think the exception was he
said that he didn't know who she was. He had
never heard of her because he had, I guess, been

(02:50):
in football camp when she was winning the Olympics and
they didn't have the Olympic station at this out of
town and all these different things. I think that's the
number one thing where people are.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I understand why he would say he didn't know who
she was for two reasons. One, I think it's a
work of telling story. He'd be like, I didn't even
know who she was.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I think people he probably come back to people think
that he got for her because she was some old
violes And I think even from her end, that's all
people know her for us for being the greatest electian
of all times. So if you bet somebody who say
they don't know you, that probably is endearing. But do
you think he did not know who he was?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, there's a possibility that he didn't. I mean it's
hard to believe. When I first heard it, I was
kind of like, come on, bro, everybody knewho some own
violence is. But man, that guy may have been focused.
He may not be into the Olympics. He may not
be geenous. I can't be in this head. But what
I will say is like, as far as like the
action of saying that he didn't know who she was,

(03:52):
I think he had an excuse to not say that
he was pursuing her in a sense because of who
she was, Because I think as they told the story,
she's wiped on him, right, So she showed interest in him.
So I'll just let you continue that that's the only
point I want to make right now.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, but I think the outrage, the public outrage. I'm
speaking to what I think the public outrage was, and
I have a different take than the public operation. I
think as the Aunties, the older women, the women out
here daty, it's so hard to see certain red flags
in your relationship when you always say crazy he has
the reflection. So I think the red flex people from

(04:28):
outside of their relationship feels that they are proceeding is okay.
He's trying to play her small, He's trying to humble her,
he's trying to, you know, make himself a bigger deal
than her, saying he's catching all that now, I think
that's what was proceeds. From the outside of their relationship,
I would say, speaking from personal experience, I have had
been trying to play the small and it is what

(04:50):
it is. They end up wherever, you know, the elephant graveyard,
where were they? But this is what I think their
dynamic is and why I some mobiles is one of
the happiest women in the world today married to that
particular man is because Simone Boles loves the challenge and
someone Boles likes to win. So the fact that the

(05:12):
shared the story of him leaning the catch and she
swiped toward him, and she sent him the messages, and
she drove forty five minutes. Someone's sitting there like, yep,
and I got that prize. I got what I worked for,
I got what I wanted. I saw it, and I
got it. And I think that is the space that
she is in. So I think they are probably potentially

(05:33):
a perfect match because he is going to maintain the
dynamic of you're doing a good thing to have me,
and because she is a champion in every sense of
the world, she's gonna work hard to win that trophy.
But good luck, girl, We'll see you on the other side.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
We'll see if they you know, how long they last.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I pray they last for a long time, because he
is the thing, this is the best.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
We wish them the best.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
A lot of people were up in arms about the
whole prize situation when he said he was the prize
of the situation. I do think that he could have
worried that a little bit differently. He could have said, Hey,
she's a prize, we're both prizes. We're both exceptional people
in this world. There's nothing wrong with a man bigging
himself up. I think a lot of women got upset.
A lot of people in general got upset because, like, no,
the woman is automatically the prize, not necessarily. And then

(06:18):
there were also some people out there that were basically
saying that because she's a celebrity, because she is the
big name, that is what makes her the prize.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I'm like.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
No, because with Cassie say that Diddy is the prize,
probably not because he was the big name. He was
the big celebrity. So we have to be careful when
it comes to situations like that. Now, as far as
him swiping left and being there and everything, he was
asked a question that he answered and he answered it truthfully, correctly, factually,

(06:48):
and some mom violence was that's doing like this the
entire time. That is exactly what happened. But people started
dragging him because he answered the question the way that
he knew how to answer the question. They could have
had a little bit more attact. Maybe he could have.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I think that's what it comes down to, But he
could have had a little bit.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
But here's the thing as well, when it comes to that,
we are in a world of clips somebody will take
a clip of our podcast and you know, take in
put out two minutes of it, and it could be
some point that you're making that dynamic. It could be
a point that I'm making that dynamic. It could be
a point that you say that makes you look crazy.
It could be a point that I make that makes

(07:27):
me look crazy. And they don't hear the entire context
of the entire interview. And that is the problem that
I have in this world where we live, in this
Michael Wave society, when it comes to blogs, when it
comes to these clips of the podcast whatnot, they take
little bits and pieces, they take them completely out of context,

(07:47):
and they don't hear the whole thing where he was
praising his wife, talking about how sweet he is and
she is and how happy that they are.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And the bottom line is you is at the end
of the day, she's happy. They're happy. So why the
f do we care as long as there happen?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, you know what, here's the thing. The thing of
why we care is because when we are fans of people,
and I think especially for young women, young women, whether
it's Key Key Palm or whether it's Haley Bailey, whether
it's Naomi Osaka. You know, we take ownership of these
young women that we're cheering on, so when it looks

(08:26):
like somebody playing with them, yeah, we get our feathers
in a ruffle. And I just think that we probably
invest too much into other people's lives. I mean, yeah,
nothing is anybody's business, but if we really went with that,
then we wouldn't have a podcast either. But because of that,
because of that, I think, you know, I just was
talking to a twenty five year old young woman and
I told her, I can't have a conversation with you

(08:48):
about dating because a twenty five year old woman doesn't
need to be walking around with a forty eight year
old woman's perspective. It's not going to serve you right now.
Have a good time, enjoy yourself, live your life, make
your mistakes, learn your lessons, and keep it moving, you know.
And I think in anybody's situation, it's definitely different when
you're in it, it's different when you're not in it.

(09:11):
And I think that's what the majority. I don't think
anybody meant harm by being in their business. They did
an interview, their sharing their story. Everyone has a right
to an opinion, but I do think he could have
told the story the exact same story in a way
that did not ruffle as many things.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, once again, I think we heard the clip that
ruffled a lot of feathers, but we didn't hear the
entire interview where he praised it.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, but he could have told that part. He could
have said, you know what's so crazy. I didn't even
know who she was. By the time I realized who
this was, I'm like, oh, dang, you know that's something
that's the exact same thing. I didn't know who you
know what I'm saying. It was just the way he
said it was like, you know, men to catch, I'm
the catch. I should get me. So so all could
be true. All could be true.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
So the answer could have come out wrong. What about
the question? And I love Ryan and all.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Those guys, Oh I thought they were I thought the
question was leading. I thought Ryan Clark Eggdamon saying, oh
so you said you didn't even want some mobiles? And
I thought it was odd. And Ryan came out the
next day trying to like we created something that they
really created and kind of put him in this situation.
Now that still was on him to say, hey me
and my wife called each other, Hey, we have this

(10:23):
fun they I saw another interview with you was talk
about how they have that friendly competition of who's the
better athlete, and they actually agreed not to discuss it
anymore once they got married because it starts arguments between
them because they are both.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Their competitive So if he's a competitor, if he's somebody
who believes in himself, who's worked hard, who's, by the way,
a starter on the Green Bay defense this year, So
he's not a scrub. He's not like a person that's
on not even saying that if you make an NFL team,
you're a good player, right or you're good enough one
of the few that can make the NFL roster. But
he's a starter for this Green Bay defense. So we

(10:53):
may not know his name, just like we talked about
a couple of weeks ago. But he is not a scrub.
So when somebody comes to him and like, man, how
did you get that?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
It makes you you you.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Kind of feel like you put in a small situation
like why, man, I deserve to have happiness. I'm somebody too,
just like.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
But I think that's a defensive way to take it.
It's like I know right like I am. So if
I ever got a great man, let me say this
right now as a woman in retirement from dating, but
if I ever connected with a great man, as much
as I know, I am apprised to behold, I'm gonna
be just as hyped up on man. The fact that

(11:35):
I was able to connect with this man is a
blessing for me to let me tell you, I get that.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
That's the maturity, that's all I understand.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Because I don't think anybody would ever go to Michelle
Obama said, how do you get rocked?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know what I mean, because we know better, but
we already know a story.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
If you if you did not know the story, if
you had this great person once again, to go back,
if somebody would have asked Cassie years ago.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Diddy Diddy's famous.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
But it's just when you ask that question, it puts
a person in the situation like, well, well, for the record,
I she kind of pursued me, which is fine, I understand,
like I love something.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
It puts an insecure person on the defense. I think
a secure person would be like, hey, you know what,
we sit around laugh all the time. I didn't even
know who she was when she first wat you know
what I'm saying. I mean, a secure person would have
presented it, possibly in a way that so many.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I'll leave on this note because this is done.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
There been that podcast, and once again we talk about
situations that where you've been in that situation, right, and
so when you strike a nerve, it doesn't mean that.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
A person's insecure.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
But when you are asked that question over and over
and over again, because that's probably not the first time
he's gotten that question, it's probably not the first time
he's seen something on social media. And at the end
of the day, we can say you're insecure and you
should have a thicker skin and you should have all this,
but at the end of the day, we're still human.
And when you hear the comments being made about oh,

(13:07):
you don't deserve to be with that person, or she's
above you or whatever, oh he ain't even that cue
or whatever, some mom bows is this and all that
stuff like that, and you hear at the end of
the day, you're kind of like, okay, man, let me
just kind of set the.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Record straight for somebody. Now.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Once again, he could have done it a little bit differently,
But we don't know what this man has gone through
for a long period of time since they've been together,
and they look happy. What I'll do and I'll make
this transition is I understand when I ask the question
why do we care when it comes to a happy couple,
I think if she's happy, we shouldn't go out there

(13:41):
and it's like, oh, girl, you should leave him.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
This is a red flag. That's when people go too far.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I can understand people jumping in and saying, oh, he
could have answered the question a little bit better. But
when they start talking about the relationship and what she
should do, or they drag him all to be held
and make him seem like he's not a man anymore,
crosses the line and situations in Keiky Palmer, which he
brought up, in other situations where there's abuse that's involved,

(14:07):
Hell yeah, we gonna speak up. I think men should
speak up in those situations where we see our sisters
being dragged of being hurt physically or mentally by any
man that's out here. Yes we should get involved, which
brings me to the whole ray Rice situation. Because ray
Rice this past Sunday was honored by the Baltimore Ravens,
not by himself, but the team that won in twenty twelve,

(14:29):
the Super Bowl winning team was honored and of course
ray Rice was a part of that.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And so it's been ten years since Ray Rice.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
For those of you don't know, ray Rice was a
running back for the Baltimore Ravens who had this infamous
incident that happened in an elevator. I can't remember what
city it was where he hit his wife and it
was called on camera and he's never played it down
on football ever again. Now, ray Rice has made amends,
he's gone domestic violence counsel. Then he and his wife
are still together, by the way, But he was honored,

(14:56):
and there has been this big divide about whether he
should have been honored or not. There's a lot of
people that saying, yes, Okay, well there's been ten years,
he's put in the work. But there's still a lot
of people out there who feel like, because of what
ray Rice did in that instance on that elevator, that
he should never have any kind of honor whatsoever or

(15:17):
he'll always be labeled as this domestic violence or this abuser.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
What do you say about that? Unison?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
You know, I think two things can be true in
most situations. I think a lot of our heroes have demons.
And I think before the world of social media and
cameras everywhere and access to a lot of information, there's
a lot of people that we celebrate to this day
that if we knew the inner workings of their lives,
we would be like dang, you know. And some of

(15:47):
them have come to like you mentioned Diddy or a
Bill Cosby or you know, it's a lot of people
that have fallen from grace because things that may have
been private were made public with Ray Rice. When the
footage came up, it was horrible footage to see. It
was heartbreaking, you know. I think men, women, everybody you know,
saw a horrible incident. As far as should he be honored,

(16:08):
the honor was for the football team, and so he
was a part of the team, and so I think
he should be honored as part of the team who
contributed to the team's success. Should he always be remembered
for that one day on the elevator, I would say
one moment shouldn't defind anyone. But you know what, when

(16:29):
we talk about Clune, we're talking about an elevator. So
what I'm saying is sometimes that's just how that goes, right.
It might be you know, let's use it for a
great example. You know someone that does something amazing. Let's
say Tiger Woods is a great example. Tiger Woods had
so many years being the top of golf and being
the top star and marketing and endorsements, and then when

(16:51):
he had his fall from grace. Yet that was every punchline,
that was every story. But at the end of the day,
we still get excited about Tiger Woods on a golf course, right,
And so I mean, we are all some of our parts.
None of our parts are perfect and without flaws and
injury and mistakes. So I'm fine with him being honored
with the team. It was a football honor. He was

(17:12):
part of the team that won, and I'm fine with it.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah. Well, I'm happy when I.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Ever date Ray Rice, probably not.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, he's married, so probably wouldn't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And that means what And that means what.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
He's married and he's happily married and his wife Jena
is still with him and they've worked through it all.
Here's the thing I feel about Ray Rice is that Okay, yeah,
that he did something do something that was crazy and violent,
and I can't stand somebody puts.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
His hands on a woman.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I saw my mom be abused, and that's something I
will never ever condone in my life. If I saw
a man that I didn't know putting hands on a
woman that I did not know, I'm intervening. I'm getting involved.
And I know people say, don't do that because you
don't know what he's gonna do. But I'm never gonna
let a woman just get get beaten the hell up

(17:57):
by some man that's supposed to be trying to protect
or whatever it aught arguments one thing, and all that
type of stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I can stay out of it, and I don't know
what's going on whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
The only way I can see a man ever putting
his hands on a woman is if he's defending himself
and he's in arm's way and he's about to die whatever,
and he's got to control the situation.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Control the situation. But never put your hands on a woman.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now, I do believe that one mistake should not define
your entire life. With Solange in the elevator, I don't
know if you say it was a mistake because she
was defending her sister in the sense, but that, like
you said, is what she is known for, and that's
not fair to hurt because she's a very talented artist
herself who happens to be Beyonce's sister or whatnot, and
all that type of stuff like that. She was defending

(18:35):
her sister, But we still tell those jokes, and that's
not fair to hurt. So when a guy like ray
Rice is put in the work, When a guy like
ray Rice has gone and spoken to domestic violence survivors
and talk to people about overcoming domestic violence and not
allowing the next set of young men in this society
to be the same person he was in that instance,

(18:57):
then I feel like, Okay, well, he has paid his
that in a sense to society, even though he didn't
go to prison for it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
His wife is still with him, working through it or whatever, and.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
He's living his life as a good human being who
seems like he could be a good man. Like you said,
two things to be true. He could be a good
man who made a very terrible mistake. People like Chris Brown.
We still remember Chris Brown for what he did. I
think here's the difference, And I think this is The
reason why Chris Brown gets villified still, ray Rice gets

(19:27):
villified still is because.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
We have video of Ray Rice. We had pictures of Rihanna, and.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I think when you see the images of domestic violence,
that is something that is hard to get out of
a person's mind. So you can have people like Charlie
Sheen doing things like that people and I'm not just
trying to throw them under the bus or anything. I'm
just throwing examples out there, people like Tyson who has
been you know, domestic violence and all that type of

(19:55):
stuff like that and convicted of rape. And I'm not
trying to bring up the person's pa from trying to
make a point, So Mike, don't get mad at me
or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
And it mightn't don't.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Get mad at me.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But we've seen them be able to make mistakes and
move on with their life and now they are beloved
by most of society, and nobody ever brings that up,
and I'm not saying that they should.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
So what about a guy like Ray Rice who made
that mistake and is trying to move on with his life.
Why can't we allow certain people to move on with
their life while we praise other people who are who
are guilty of a similar crime. That's the problem I
have with a select outrage.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, I think the selective outrage is based on actual evidence.
Seeing footage, seeing pictures, seeing video. Those are things that
I think when you have an image or something, Yeah,
that's that's what stays. Right. So when you hear ray Rice,
you see the elevator footage, I mean, and you can
put all his stats and all his football accolades, and
you can remember games you saw him succeed in. The

(21:02):
elevator footage is what comes to mind when his name
comes up. That's unfortunate for him and unfortunate anybody who
would have one moment in time that was captured on film,
you know, define him. That is unfortunate for anybody across
the board. But I think as a mature adult, one
of the biggest challenges we have and is because of
social media's because of the podcast even though we're here

(21:24):
one because of cameras, because everyone feel like not only
is more information accessible and available to us, more people
feel like they are old information and access and I
think there has to be a respect of privacy. You know, again,
do I think a man who abuses a woman is

(21:46):
an abuser, like, is this just his his personality trait?
That is an assumption I make personally. Do I know
of abusive women that men have had to defend themselves against. Yes, Also,
so that man may have never had to touch a
woman before he got with the woman that was abusive
and he was reactive. All the things can be true.
And it's a very case by case nuance conversation you

(22:07):
have to have for yourself with how you move forward
with people, especially in a personal way. But as far
as like somebody doing something, making a mistake, paying the
price and all that, I mean, I don't know that
we should keep talking about it. Like I said, his
wife is still with him, he hasn't had an incidence
that we've heard of since. And you know, you pray

(22:28):
the best for the whole family, and you know, congratulations
on the honor.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
And here's the thing, this man, I ain't saying he
his mistake cost him his career.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'll just say it that way because ray Rice and
I've always said this about the NFL and about Major
League Baseball, anything basketball, because we got abusers that are
right now playing in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
We got abuse in Congress, we got everywhere.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
And a lot of them get second chances.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Ray Rice didn't get a second chance because ray Rice
picked the wrong season to have a bad season. The
season before the season before that incident was his worst
season in the NFL. And as a running back, you
only have such so much of a shelf life. If
ray Rice, and I said this even ten years ago
on the radio, if ray Rice would have run for
sixteen hundred yards the season before, fifteen to twenty touchdowns

(23:15):
or whatever, ray Rice would have been playing another five
years in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Somebody would have given him another chance.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
We've seen people kill people and get another chance in
any NFL, right, But that incident cost ray Rice's career
because a It's like, Okay, well, obviously there was an outrage,
and there should have been outraged. And I'm not saying
that he didn't deserve to punishment that he got, but
it cost him his career.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
And this man, I believe, hopefully, is trying to move on.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
From all accounts, from all the articles that I've read
about him, it seems like this man is trying to
move on with his life. His wife is happy, He's
doing the work to try to make sure that somebody
that comes from behind him can learn from his mistake.
And I pray that we can allow this man to
live his life without just putting this want to label

(24:00):
on him, to define him for the rest of his life,
not just be a part of his legacy, because it
will be a part of his legacy. Like you mentioned,
anybody that goes Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary, that's what
it's good if as president you think he was, that's
part of his legacy.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's always going to be a part of his legacy.
We understand that, but it just can't be the main
thing and the main headline. And when you at your death,
like oh, abuser Chris Brown dies. Look, man, let's look
at the totality of a person's life in their career
before we label this person and make it seem like
this is the only thing that they're ever known for.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
But also, I agree with you one hundred percent, but
also there also is this world that we have to
accept that there are consequences for actions, and sometimes we
might not agree with the consequences, but you know, a
lot of times that's why people who are being abused,
particularly women, but anybody can be abused, but sometimes women
won't report abuse for fear of that person losing their

(24:58):
career and that's how they that's how their kids eat.
So you know, it kind of goes both ways. That
that was a tragic situation that there was proof of
that was, you know, call on camera. And it's a
lot of people that won't report abuse to not have
that same consequence.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I get it. Yep.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Same thing with domestic violence, rape, Like you said, it
could be sexual assault, all of that, and I understand
it in my heart, and I pray because somebody will
take a small once again, they'll take a small what
I just said and make it say anyone hear this
part where I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I pray that we get to a point.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Where if you are being abused in any kind of way,
that you can come forward, that you can find the
courage to come forward, and the person who is doing
that abuse to you, they should pay the price in totality,
they should get the full book thrown at them, because
I do not condone that whatsoever. That's hopefully you can
move on. Blessings to him and Janay as they move

(25:50):
on with their marriage. Also that day, a Lamar Jackson.
This guy has been incredibly he's quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens.
He has been having an exceptional season, so much that
he is the front runner right now for to win
his second Most Valuable Player Award in the NFL this year.
Wanted a couple of years ago, and the way the
season started, there's a lot of people he tried to

(26:11):
get a new contract. Ravens didn't seem like they wanted
to give an extension. Other teams seem like they weren't interested. Now,
I'm pretty sure a lot of the teams out there
kicking themselves, but still as good as a quarterback as
he's been, as good as he was at the University
of Louisville winning the Housman Trophy, as good as he
was coming into the NFL and winning the MVP Award.

(26:31):
There are still idiots out there that still want to
put speaking the labels of Lamar Jackson because he is
a he's not the prototypical pocket quarterback, but he is
a hybrid, a new definition of what the quarterback and B.
They don't want to give him his props. So there
is somebody. I don't even know this guy's name, and
I wouldn't mention it if I did. He's on Fox

(26:52):
Sports Radio, which I'd done Falt Sports Radio. I work
for Fox, so he could be a colleague of mine,
and I tell him to his face that says, I
don't like him as a quarterback, like I don't I
want my he's he's quarterback. He's not quarterbacky enough. Whatever
the f that means. Quarterback means well, it means that
he's he's not white, in which we can take it.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
The racial overtones.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I think there are racial tropes that are thrown out
there or whatnot when it comes to athletic because he's
too athletic.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Those are some of the trups.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
He's black, but Baker may feels a little athletic too.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Now I'm just saying, but you know, but we we
we we get it. We ain't naive enough. But he's too.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
You also seen Baker Mayfield doing the Dougie do on
the sideline.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
You know what I'm saying. He's doing the douggies. So
he's been around us enough that we give him like
a half of a car, not a full cat.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
And he's invited to the cookouts.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
He can come to the cooking.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
He gotta bring something and it can't be potato salad
with raisins in it, you know, or he loses his
card again.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
So so we hear these.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Tropes about how a person who is in this this,
this this system or in a position the way it
used to be and the people evolved, then all of
a sudden, there's a problem. One thing about black folks
is that we will take something that somebody gives us,
that we see somebody else doing, and we're gonna put
some stink on it. Whether it's the national anthem, whether

(28:10):
it's line dancing, whatever it is, we're gonna put a
little stink on it. And everybody's not gonna like it.
But guess what, they wish they could do it. And
that is the problem. When he comes to Lamar Jackson,
this guy whoever his quarterback is, he wishes that they
had the same athletic.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Ability that Lamar Jackson has.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
But because they don't, they always feel like they got
to bring somebody down or put words or phrases or
all these different titles on somebody to try and make
them feel less than who they are. And I want
to say stop that, but I'm gonna use that later
on the show. I'm gona do that somebody later in
the show.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, you know, it's crazy that with sports, you know,
and we talk about sports as a starting point for
this podcast, done there being in that, but it's a
microcosm of society, and so it's about the issues that
all of us are talking about. You know, race in
a mis Erica is one of the things that people
hate to talk about. But the undercurrent of pretty much

(29:04):
ninety nine point ninety nine percent of anything happening in
America is related to race, and it's harmful for white
people too. Racism harms white people as well. But as
far as quarterbacks, black quarterbacks in the NFL, there's always
been this special line in the sand that gets moved
around throughout their careers. I remember growing up it was

(29:26):
Warren Moon and Doug Williams, and you know, the questions about,
you know, how does it feel to be a successful
black quarterback. I've only been a successful quarterback, like I
wouldn't know what it feels like to be anything else.
And the way that black quarterbacks from high school to
college are often moved to receiver or change positions or
how many times you know, black quarterbacks have to hear

(29:47):
their athletic and not intelligence, all of them, Jalen Menrue,
but all of them, all of them, they have to
hear about how okay, just because they are athletic. It's
a team of athletes. Okay, so that's a given. So
when they say, oh, he's an athlete, to me, that's
a great condecision. It's a great offense. He is an

(30:08):
intelligent quarterback steering this team two wins and success. And
that's across the board. So whether it's Tom Brady, whether
it's Baker, whether it's Peyton Manning, whomever it is, they
are all great athletes. Do not minimize a black quarterback
by saying, boy, he's athletic. Everybody out there is athletic.

(30:28):
Every quarterback they ever played, every running back, every defensive plump.
They're athletic. They're athletes literally for a living. And so
what's crazy is is almost like it's very equivalent to
you know, there's this sense of audacity on both ends
that you see when you see certain people exceed and excel.
Lamar Jackson being a great example of someone whether it's

(30:51):
his mom helping negotiate his you know, just all the
things he did it his way. And so how does
he have the audacity to be great? How do you
have the audacity to succeed? And I think when you
see certain people of a certain race exceed expectations that
they never put on themselves, it is what the world
put on them, you know. Unfortunately, Uh, they feel you

(31:14):
are too audacious. The Williams sisters got it? They who
are who? How dare they? Tiger Woods? How dare you
succeed and be great and dance and sing and celebrate
and speak multiple languages and set the bar so high?
Some old bows? How dare you use those moves in competition?
We're gonna deduct points from your routine because nobody else

(31:36):
could even try to do it? How dare you?

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Keep it with no, You're you're absolutely right everything you're saying, Man,
I'm you're spending some bars right now, because.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
That's it's all. It's old news, right, it's old news.
How dare you?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's but it's it's like, it's not just in sports,
it's in society too, man, start moving up. Like first
of all, like I was told when I was coming up,
not that I was.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
A good sports cast.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I've told first of all, I've been told when I
was in a place do you want to be a sportscaster?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
You want to be a black sportscaster.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
So do you want to be a sportscaster or do
you want to be a black sportscast. I'm like, well,
I want to be a sportscaster, but I'm damn I'm black.
I mean, like, what what the hell does that mean?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Right?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I've also been told that, well, Mike, you're you're going
to move up and you're gonna I've been told I
was gonna go to ESPN when I was in Fresdo
and Hagarsound, Maryland.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I've been saying, not because of how good.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I was, on the potential that I had, but I
was going to be in a top ten on network
market because you're black. Been told that now I don't
listen to that book, I don't pay attention to it
or whatever, and stuff like that. You hear that, and
you hear how they try to a lot of people
try to bring you down a notch because they feel

(32:48):
like you're giving something instead of it being earned, or
because you got a special set of skills, or you're
a lot of people hate on you. And this is
in general, not just in a racial standpoint. Haters come
from people that aren't doing better for you, better than
you for the most part, because they can't do what
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
So because they can't do what you're doing, they have
to find a reason to bring you down. Right, you
ain't never mat a hater.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
That's doing better than you, So they got to find
something negative about what you're doing that's so great because
they can't reach the level in which you.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Are, So instead of trying to strive to be what
you are or reach that level in their own way,
the better thing for them to do is and the
easiest thing for them to do is let me snatch
him off his petestal a little bit more. And the
other end of the hating spectrum is if somebody is
doing something better than you and they see you coming

(33:43):
up and you're doing something great or wonderful, whatever, guess what,
there's a threat. There's a threat that you've had units
as a comedian coming up right now. There's a threat
that I've had as a sportscast or as ATV host.
When I said that I wanted to move from sports
and to get into news and entertainment, I had my
own people telling me stuff that, hey, well, you sure,

(34:04):
just they want to kind of keep you in that lane.
They want to keep you this, stay over there, don't
do this because there's not enough room over there.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
And that's the problem that I have. It's like, allow
people to grow, allow people to expand. Just because what
was done away years ago doesn't mean that it's not
going to be done a different way now.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Even when it comes to comedy units.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
You know this as well as I do a lot
of the comics out there, and I'm not saying any names.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
They get mad at the internet people, the social media people,
the DC young flies, whatnot or whatnot, because all that's
not well, it's an expansion.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Kodak was the only film company for many years, and
now everybody got a camera phone.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
And I think that's the biggest thing is that you
said it's a threat. I can't tell you since I
moved to Los Angeles almost a year ago, how many
white male comedians have told me, oh, well, you're going
to have an easier time because you're a black woman.
No one's checking for us anymore. And being a black
woman in America, I've never had an easier time doing

(35:03):
anything any list than they have. Being a black one
in America. I'm not at the top of no list
of easy and so what it is is like, listen,
there's a there's not a market where you're not gonna
be sa And actually, one of the people who told
me that I open for them, he's a huge name.
I won't say his name, but I opened him. He's huge,
and he says, oh, well, it's gonna probably work out

(35:24):
for you because you know you're a black woman. You
gave me at the right time. Now that could also
be true, right, I can also say, hey, more black
people are getting more opportunities, more women are getting opportunities.
We're looking at the East Arrays and the Quinta Brunson's
and the Natasha roth Wells and the Leno Waifs and
that you know, and the Robin The's. We can call
out names of people that able diver names, the Chandra,

(35:46):
the Oprahs we used to only had. We only had Oprah. Right, So, yes,
that means we're moving in the right directions. But then
guess what, You'll have the same conversation. They're still getting
paid less, they're still being challenged more, They're still having
to do twice in three and four times the work,
they're still not getting the same opportunities, the saying, you know,
so let's go what are we talking about? And so

(36:08):
it's unfortunate because it is one of those things where
how how dare you of it?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
All?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Is because the only way supremacy, white supremacy works is
based on a concept that I have to believe I'm
better than you because I can't prove it.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
You can't prove it.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I just have to believe it. And I have to
teach my children, I have to teach everybody, and I
have to make laws and rules that says, well, I'm
here and you're here, regardless of the proof being in
the pudding and apples to apples. And it's unfortunate, but
it's not something for me. I've decided. I've chosen whether
it's white supremacy, where it's racism, where it's capitalism, where
it's patriarchy, all the things, the systems that have been

(36:46):
created to keep a little little cute chick like me down.
I have decided not to participate in the gas lighting
of myself, and I just pick and choose my battles.
I try to live a happy, healthy, wonderful life. I
try to excel in spaces where I'm welcomed and championed,
and I try to find something good to eat every day.
That's it. The rest y'all can have, y'all can have arrest.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
And so you brought up all those names whatnot.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know why there's an influx because it's long overdue
because they've been silenced for so many years.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I mean, it's just and it goes in ways.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I mean, you know their Agians have a you know,
they because they've been left out for so many years.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Women have been left out for so many years.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
So all of a sudden, anyone who is not a
straight white man has been left out systematically, continuously. It
will continue to be left out right because whatever strides
we make, like you said, is long overdue. It's not enough.
And even when people try to talk about diversity hires,
or affirmative action and all those things, they will try
to minimize your talent and ability based on those concepts,

(37:44):
but they won't acknowledge the concept that the only reason
these words are part of your vocabulary because of racism
and white supremacy. That's the only reason you have these
terms is because it's not fair.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
That's the problem I have.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's like every name that you just mentioned talented individuals.
Talented individuals. They're funny, they're hilarious, they're creative, they're enlightening.
They bring great quality to the networks or the TV
screens of the films that they do. Everything that they
do is quality work. But still they're going to be

(38:15):
looked at as lesser than because of how they came in.
I remember one time when I was at ESPN when
I first got the ESPN ESPN for some reason, and
it was crazy is I think there's one the lady
that helps produce the show, one of these ext producers
of the show.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
She was at ESPN at the time, and I think.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
She was one of the few coordinator producers of color
that they had at ESPN. And so maybe you remember
this too, and maybe this was a telling when you
were there. But they hired all of a sudden, because
they didn't have any coordinator producers and they were getting
a lot of heat, they hired an influx of coordinator producers.
I think they hired five black men as coordinator producers

(38:51):
all at the same time.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Now, should they have done it that way?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Maybe not, Maybe they should have, But like if you
threw it, throw all them in there at the same time.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
They guess what, some of the producers who've been waiting
around and become coordinator producers, they'll think, Okay, well, the
only reason they're here is because they're black, and because
they're being forced.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
To it's called an overcorrection right now's.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
And and that, and that situation put I think those
black men in a bad situation because they were good
coordinator pdu well most of them for them form work.
Think about it, most of them were really good, right,
and great people, great men knew what the hell they
were doing or whatever. But because they were brought in
and I could almost not empathize, but I can almost

(39:34):
sympathize with some of the white guys or white women
who have been there for years as producers that was
waiting for their time to move up, to be promoted
to a coordinator producer. But because they needed to correct them,
like you said, this overcorrection, then all of a sudden
they could so I can see what they're saying. But
now as you're this new coordinator producer that's being brought
into this situation, and all of a sudden, you get

(39:55):
all this hate and you're not getting any help from anybody,
and the only reason you're here is because you're black.
That puts you in a bad situation. Going back to Dallas,
this guy told me, hey, same guy, do you want
to be a black The same guy that asked me
do I want to be a sportscast or a black
sportscaster told me, told me, well, the only reason I

(40:16):
hired you is because you're black.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Told me that told me that units And I'm like, well,
you can fire me now.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
And I told him straight up, I said, I said,
if that's the only reason you got me, is that
you can fire me now because I don't want to
be hired just because of my skin color.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Does it help.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, if there is a need for something in my voice,
you need a voice to come in and correct some
shit that y'all been messing up for many years. Absolutely,
Because I'm gonna come in there, I'm gonna use my voice.
I'm not just gonna be a face. And that's one
of the problems that I have when you do. If
you are hired as a black person to correct an issue,
you should come in there and not just be a face,
because you can be wallpaper and a lot of people

(40:53):
use that wallpaper and say, hey, look we got one
of them. We have an Asian, got a woman, you
got an Indian woman over here, We got this black man.
So we have diversity. But guess what happens in these
boardrooms when decisions are being made. They don't have anybody
that has a voice in that boardroom. I'd rather have
twelve white men in a boardroom if six of them

(41:15):
speak up and have black voices, then have six black
men and six people of white people in a boardroom
and nobody speak up with black people. If you don't
have the voice, you shouldn't have the face. You're just
a piece of wallpaper that's put there. And I refuse
to be anybody's damn wallpaper. So when somebody says this,

(41:36):
I'm special, your special units. You're in this business. We're
gonna do a show together on Thursday. We talking about
that at the end of the show. But you know,
I'm starting to get into comedy, and I feel certain
people saying, well, on the reason you're getting this because
your social media following, because you was married and so
and so whatever else.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I didn't ask for what people are giving it to me.
I'm gonna take the chance. I'm not gonna say no no,
but I will also do these open mics. There ain't
nobody in also come in here and do a performance
for my friends. Where ain't nobody here, Ain't nobody laughing?
You know what I'm saying. So I'm willing to put
into work.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
People don't realize when you put these labels on people
like Lamar Jackson, you are taking away from his accomplishments
and everything, all that hard ass work that he's put
in on that football field to be the person he is.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
So please, I notice, ain't the segment stop that? Stop it.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Stop that? Okay, So listen, what's so crazy is for
black folks or I'll speak as a black woman to
be two of the most Well, I'm gonna put in
a poor black woman, an unwealthy American, a lot of
things that would would be seen as negatives right in
this country. It's crazy how most black people within trade
places with a non black person for anything in the world.

(42:49):
And that's why you say that.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Chris Ross said that. Chris Ross said, ain't a white
person in this room that are trade places with me?

Speaker 3 (42:58):
I thought a white person on trade places. But I'm
saying black people, we love being black, though that's the thing.
We would still rather be oppressed. Live here, deal with
all the stuff weither, the black tax, we have to
deal with the emotional label we have to carry all
day that is never spoken about, that's never addressed, that's
never accounted for. All the things I would sign up

(43:19):
to be this black woman.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
We know only see. That's what people don't understand.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
It's not that we nobody hates white people or other
races or this. We don't want to be given more
than anybody else. We just want to be given what
we deserve to have.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
And the word, the words shouldn't even be given. Just
leave us alone. Let everybody do what they gonna do.
Let everybody do what they're gonna do. If you work hard,
you need the benefit.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Or you should get what you earn, right, Yeah, and
it's not nobody. Nobody wants to be given it.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
So if you need to make up for past elks
of being put down, and we can talk, we can
go down a rabbit hole and racism and and the
taxes and how to stopped us from voting and all
that type of stuff like that, and redlining, and we
can go through all the history of racism and talk
about the reasons why we're still behind the eight ball.

(44:09):
Everybody they know this, we know this and everything like that.
But all we want now, we want equality. And that's
all we've ever preached. Man as black people, as people
of color, minorities, whatever the LGBT.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
You can, man, just treat me equally. That's all we're
asking for. And if you can, and.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
If you're a quarterback and the NFL, just let me
be the quarterback in the NFL. And if I'm a
great quarterback in the NFL, just talk about how great
of a quarterback I am in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Not because I ain't doing it like your quarterback, or
you ain't.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Gotta call me nothing but the name My mom and
daddy gave me the name this on my jersey. And
sign them checks.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
That's it, sign them checks, sign them.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Well that'll be our collective. Stop that. But for the
today's episode, we like to close the show. Well stop that.
I'mouna go because Mike's been on his soapbox for a minute.
I ain't got no money to pass collection place for y'all.
Cash out Mike for that sermon. I see he's well
he's swelled up for twenty twenty four. Y'all, y'all, y'all

(45:10):
prays for like listen, all right, somebody stopped that for
uh for the beginning of twenty twenty four. Is just
because you are a fan of something or someone, do
not then think that means you have to be a
hater of something else. We were talking about our team,
Alabama rolltide. I went to Alabama. Uh. I'm not a

(45:32):
person whose emotions really get affected by a sporting event.
I would love for Alabama to win, but when Alabama loses,
I don't cry or lose any sleep. However, a lot
of ours in state rival and I used to term
rival loosely in state rival fans Auburn will sometimes blow up.
They were tagging me blowing up my timeline after Alabama loss,

(45:54):
and so the pettiness of me called me to react
to Uh. If it was a Michigan fan, let's go
all day, talk your trash. Your team beat our team, right,
but you've been on the couch for a couple of
days and lost the last game you was invited to
and lost to us and had to lose the season again.
Don't be an Alabama hater be an urban fan. I
feel the same way. If you love Cardi b you

(46:17):
don't have to hate Nikki. If you love Nikki, you
don't have to hate card You don't have to hate Man.
If you like Beyonce, you ain't got so. I just
hate that when people are fans of something they think
they then have to become a hater of something else.
You can love Lebron James and Michael Jordan like two
things can be. It's okay. So stop being a fan
and let your fandom cause you to be a hater

(46:38):
because even whoever you hating on is literally doing something
at a very high successful level. And it looks weird.
You look like a weirdo.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, you're bringing down the accolades of somebody that you
can't stop. Stop that, my stop that is, please stop
being somebody. I hate the folks come around other people
for what they do.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
And not for who they are. Stop that. Stop. We
live in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
There's so many and we talk about the fake people
out here, but there's so many fake people.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Around the nation, if around the world.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
It's about I've been in situations where I don't call
myself famous. I'm not famous, I'm familiar. Famous people are known.
Famous people known walk up to them and say, oh,
you're so and so you're that person's name.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I'm that dude. I'm like, why I know you from
I know you, I'm familiar.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I'm not famous at all, So I don't even consider
myself a celebrity. But what I also hate is like
when somebody finds out you can meet me and be
an asshole and just be staying off as your energy
can be messed up, and then somebody happens to mention, oh,
he's the guy that's on ESPN, he's on Fosports, he
was met by all this. All of a sudden, you
perk up, and all of a sudden you get happy

(47:51):
and you want to be my best friend. And I'm
just using myself as an example, but I see that
all the time. I have friends who will not speak
at a party full of executives. Because what people don't
realize is the most important people in your life are
people that you probably won't know. It ain't the people
that's on air. You heard the Taraji p Henson's talking about, Hey,

(48:15):
she's famous, she's on red carpets or whatever. She's an actress.
She's trying to make it out here, just like everybody else.
The people who are famous are the people who you
don't know and you wouldn't even talk to because you
think that they're nobody. So when you start learning how
to speak to people who you think are nobodies or

(48:36):
people who are just in general not famous whatever, I
guarantee your life will be so much better. So stop
that when it comes to just like trying to be
nice and friendly to people for what you feel like
they do and not for necessarily who they are. And
I'm not even saying if you find out that person
is executive, that you should go up and talk to them.

(48:56):
That person could be somebody that could help your mom
out because they know some has given a kidney and.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Your mama need a kidney. I don't know. I'm just
throwing that out of this example.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
So let's stop just ass kissing celebrities or whatnot or
all these people out here that has a name for
themselves just because of what they do and not because of.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Who the person, what kind of person they are. That's it.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
He stopped that, he says, stopped that. Now I want
to add some to that. Stop for that, because you
I feel like the example you gave was very high level.
You gave Hollywood. You gave actors, actresses, executives. Let me
bring it down to you. I call it. I have.
Everybody who knows me knows I have a Walgreens list.
And since I moved to Los Angeles, the walls Walgreens

(49:37):
list has has grown. I'll tell you what the Walgreens
list is, and we're gonna wrap this up. But this
is what you said, is the Walgreens list. So years ago,
when I was a TV news anchor in Birmingham, Alabama,
there was Walgreens right down the street from the studio
and sometimes I would run into the Walgreens to grab
some things. One day, I was standing in line in
Walgreens with my purchase and what I wanted to purchase,

(49:57):
and there was a young white woman with two young
children with her, and the older white woman who was
the cashier was talking to the people in front of
me and their transaction was done, but she kept talking
to him, kept talking to Somebody thought is, Oh, this
lady is gonna talk me to death when it's my turn,
you know, because she won't even let them leave the
store because she's still talking to them. As I came
up for my turn, she did not say one word

(50:19):
to me. She did not say good morning, She did
not say did you find everything you need? She didn't
say nothing. And I noticed it because I was ready
for her to talk me to death, because I saw
how much she was talking to the person in front
of me. So I put in my phone number in
the little Walgreens thing, and my name comes up on
her screen, and she says, Eunice Elien. Oh my wait,
oh my god, I watch you every morning. I refuse

(50:42):
to say a word to this woman. I just couldn't.
I could not say one word. So I just finished
my transaction. I refuse to say one word to this woman. Right,
so I leave the Walgreens. I ain't thought not less
about this lady. I go to the Walgreens the next week.
I see she has a line of people. She sees
me coming to do. Oh that's Eunice Ellen. Oh yeah,
she comes in here all time. I turned around and
walked back out. I refuse to go back in that

(51:04):
Walgreens because what you won't do is talk to me
now that you think I'm somebody to you, When I
was somebody when I walked in the dunk. So since
I've been in Los Angeles, I've seen people who handle
me one way when I say, oh, I'm just a
country bunky from Alavia, but trying to make it in Hollywood.
And then they start following you on social and they
start seeing your relations and your connections and your experience

(51:24):
and your background and your talent, and now they want
to be all up in your face. No bag you
on the wall.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Green listen lists. Okay, all right, I'm gonna have to
get me a CVS list because.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
It's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I like it. I like that.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
It's a real thing, to the point where my co
workers would come here and say, you're just the Lenny
Walgreens says, she ain't.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Seen you in a while, just that Walgreens Ever again,
you won't.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
You won't ever tell nobody you ever seen me before
again in your life. I'm not doing it because I'm
petty like that.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Ain't no wrong being petty sometimes.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
You know, Just get off your chest, don't play face.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Thank everybody. I appreciate everybody for giving us support. Even
when we was off man, people are like, y'all gonna
do a podcast.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
As we were looking for us US looking for us.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
We out here in these streets and we're gonna continue
to give you this fine quality. Hopefully we'll be in
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Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and watch the done
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Speaker 3 (52:25):
So yes, Mike Hill is entering the world of stand
up comedy and just so happens, had nothing to do.
I had nothing to do with it that we will
be performing this week on the same show at the
Comedy Store for Crack Them Up Thursdays. I would be
hosting the show, and I saw all the comedians and
I saw Mike hills shiny face in a box, and

(52:48):
I will tell you I am looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
We will be back next week. I'm Mike Hill, I'm
Unice Elliott.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
We love your comments too. Make sure you comment, subscribe,
like share. We'll see y'all next time. I'm done there.
Bet that stop that, stop that.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Walgreens