January 17, 2024 • 55 mins
Mike Hill and Eunice Elliott reflect on impactful reunions like Michigan’s Fab Five and the cast of Martin, exploring forgiveness and growth in relationships. Then the two Alabama natives discuss Nick Saban’s departure and new Head Coach Kalen Debour, if Taylor Swift is BAD for NFL football, and finally, thirsty LA people, please “STOP THAT!”.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Another week's Done that and been in that podcast Mike Hill,
you and his Elliott hanging out with you?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
What's up you in this We're going on? Mike Hill.
I feel like we keep seeing each other.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We live in the same city.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You're there everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's not you know, even though LA's big, Even though
LA's big, is still a small city, especially amongst us,
we see each other in the entertainment industry. As a
matter of fact, we're gonna start a new segment called
what have you Done? Where have you been? And I
have seen you? I did see you last week at
got towards birthday party.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, he had a big show downtown at the Novo Theater.
It's my first time being there. It was really cool
to get to open that show with Guy Tori, Fifth Entertainer, Deal,
Hugh Lee, Coco Brown, Bubbah Dub and still being relatively
new in town. I felt, you know, pretty special. For
my face was even on the birthday cake. I was like, oh,
I can retire. Where's my star on the hollyway Walker fame?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
At this point, you know what, here's the thing and
you're going to get that eventually. Can I just go
ahead and give you your props? Not just because you're
a homegirl, because I love you to death, but you
belonged on that stage. I mean, I was so proud
every time I see you get up on the stage
and do your thing, even the first time I saw you.
I believe the first time I saw you in person
was at Earthquakes show.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, Earthquake a.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Couple of months back, and I didn't know you had
a mouth like that. But when you see this sweet
little units and I'm but but it's funny, it's really funny,
and you belong up there. So we'll talk more about
that a little bit later on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And I also want to say Mike was at that
show and at that party, and I think we took
officially our first done there been that fan picture.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We did, Yeah something If somebody came up to us
and said they loved the podcast, shout out to everybody
that's been watching and subscribing to the podcast and listening
faithfully or whatnot and arguing with us on social media.
We love it all the good, the bad, the other
than between. So thank you for supporting the podcast. As always,
you want to jump right back into it, Let's do
it all right. Hey, I was so happy because I
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was One of the things I did this week, obviously
is working at Fox Sports. And one of the games
that we had the other day on Martin Luther King's
Day on the fifteenth was the Michigan Ohio State game
and they had a cutaway and they had the Fab
five was back on for Chris Weber, Jalen, Juwan, Ray, Jimmy,
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all of them back. Of course, everybody knows the Fab
five back in the nineties, early nineties Michigan basketball, the
freshman cessation that turned college basketball on his head, the
long black shorts, the black shoes. I mean, they just
brought a lot of swagger. They brought a lot of
culture to the oral of college basketball. Love them or
hate them. A lot of people hated them, but a
lot of us loved them because they brought a lot
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of notorwadget to game basketball. Well. Over the years, they've
had some issues, and that was the first time they
had actually been at chrystl Arena for a basketball game
since nineteen ninety three as a group because there was
some dissension between them. They fell out for some reasons.
The booster has got named Ed. I can't think of
his name right now, but Ed Martin. Ed Martin was
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a booster. So a lot of the things that Michigan
accomplished over the years got wiped out because of the
NCAA investigation and the sanctions and whatnot, and it caused
dissension between the group, and it also caused some decision
between the players and the University of Michigan because University
of Michigan pretty much just wiped them away as well.
So they finally came back because Juwan has been the
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head coach of Michigan for the last couple of years,
and over the years, I think Jalen and Juwan actually
just made up a couple of years because they those
two were really at odds. And I'm so happy to
see those brothers because I love Jalen, I love Juwan,
A love all of them, you know, Juwan, Jalen, and
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who am I missing?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Tris Chris.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Chris is my guy as well. And the fact that
they've been able to get back together and show that
love for one another again. As they said, it's family,
and sometimes family falls out, but family eventually gets back together.
So I'm happy to see that.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's always good when someone that you knew as a
group is able to come back as a group. And
there's so many things that can cause ascension. You mentioned
about the booster and them getting you know, their banners
not being hung, and all the tension and stress of
also just friendships. I think for me, my memory of
the Fab five was, you know, it was one of
my first times I heard of a college team. You
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knew every person on the team.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It wasn't just one star, it was the Fab five.
They were a complete group. So yeah, over the years,
knowing that they weren't in contact, they weren't friends, was
heartbreaking in an outsider spectator kind of way. But it
does make you think about friends you've had over the years. Yep,
and when have you had friends? I know, personally, I
have friends that I'm pretty sure I'll never speak to again.
(05:09):
I don't have anything negative, bad, or you know, ungodly
to say about them. But sometimes you can have a
disagreement with a friend take a little time apart, express
your positions, and the friendship goes on unfazed. In my experience,
when I've had friendships that have just ended and no
one has reached out, I feel like that's more than
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a disagreement or misunderstanding. I think that's more of an
exposure of this probably wasn't really a friendship in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Exactly exactly. I totally agree with you. Sometimes it's reason
season lifetime, right. So a lot of people that we
went to high school with, obviously we went to the
same high school. I went years before you, so we
don't have to make that years before me. But I
went to school with your sister, who's not that much
older than you, just by the way. And there are
people that I went to high school with that I
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was really close to. I thought they were going to
be lifelong friends. And now i've I looked. I may
have maybe two friends that I went to high school
with that I still speak to today. One I just
saw right before Christmas, a guy named Vincent Hussin who's
a lifelong friend. And it happens over the years going
to the Air Force, you meet guys that you hang
out with that you're really tight with that you'll keep
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in touch with, but you're not as close as you
used to be. I don't like to fall out or
I don't like to say cut people off unless they've
done something really negative. We'll get into that in just
a second. Is something that is a breaking point where
you'll never look back or whatnot. But at the same time,
I do get people emotional vacations because some people aren't
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meant to go with you in the next phases of
your life. You know what I mean, because you grow
up and you grow apart from some people. Now you
can grow apart from some people because they've chosen to
stay in a certain mentality. We're both from Best in
Alabama and nothing to shit on Best Alabama because we
love our hometown. But we know that bestmer Alabama. The
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state of Alabama has issue sometimes and there's a mentality
when you go down to Best Went. I don't know
if you feel this way you and this, but I'll
speak for myself. When I go to Bestmen sometimes there's
still a mentality there that doesn't feel like certain people
have grown or they want to grow, maybe because they
have not been exposed to other things and so when
I go back, I feel like I don't feel like
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I'm above anybody, but I don't feel like some people
have grown up from when they were seventeen or twenty
five years old, you know what I mean? Because of
that mentality, and a lot of times it's depressing for
me to be quite honest with you, because I really
want us as a people, especially my former friends, to
grow and to become bigger and better and understand that
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there's so much more out there beyond what we've seen.
But if they can't, then it's time for me to
break off and move on. Like with the Fab Five,
I love that they were able to have that friendship
as freshmen coming into Michigan doing what they did break apart,
but then eventually realize as mature men that hey, you
know what what we did, what that was happening. That
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was petty and it shouldn't be something that breaks apart
the bond that we have and the bond that we
can continue to have. So I'm happy that they're doing
their thing right now.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And I know, especially when men are involved, there's a
lot of pride and ego, So that's also really great
that everybody you know you have to check yourself in
some way to reconcile with someone. Even if you don't
feel like you were in the wrong, you still have
to check your pride and ego and being able to
accept somebody that you feel wronged by, let alone be
the one to apologize and acknowledge. Hey, I dropped the
ball on that. I was thinking about this this morning
(08:35):
about friendships. Oh, I was gonna say opposite to you.
My cutoff game is strong. I mean when I tell
you listen, it is like a super It's like my superpower. Okay,
I can literally never talk to you ever again and
feel nothing. I'm not mad, I'm not gonna say anything
bad about you, but I literally am never looking for
you again. And I was thinking about one time I
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had It wasn't even a disagreement with a close friend
of mine, but it was just our energy was off
this day and everything I said it seemed like she
kind of just was snapping at me, and I was like, hey,
I'll just talked to you later, And it bothered me
the whole entire day that something was off between me
and this close friend. By the time I called her
back that evening, she answered the phone by Sam and
I'm gonna be so upset if you're calling me to
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apologize first, because it was bothering her, you know, And
it was like, ooh, you beat me to it. And
we just talked, like what's going on? What happened? It
turned out she just got too hungry, she got didn't
know what was going on. But I also have had
friends that I thought I was super close with we
have a fallen out and I never think about talking
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to them ever again, like same day.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
What could cause that? Like what coureak it?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Exposure? Because what the disagreement or the misunderstanding about. I'm
all for that, but if it's an exposure of how
you actually feel about me, which is not friend like,
it's like, oh, wait for this person to say this.
They ain't never been my friend and we're not just
having a misunderst standing or disagreement or difference of opinion.
This person is telling me how they actually feel about me.
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And this ain't how you would feel about a friend.
And so this is good information to have. We ain't
never got to reconnect on nothing because you just said
something and let me know something. I had a person
that I thought was a friend. I remember when I
first got promoted to main anchor at the TV station
in Alabama, and of someone who had been affiliated with
that job. Trying not to put people on blasts, I'm like,
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with someoney who had worked with me call to congratulate me,
and I was like, thank you, I appreciate it. And
she said yeah, because they were like, you weren't ready
for it, and I was at least she wanted us. And
I was like, wow, wait a minute. And that was
because it was like, one, why would someone feel comfortable
saying something like that about me to you? They know
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we're friends. And two why would you feel like you
need to bring it back to me? And so it
was an exposure, right, and it was just like, Okay,
I know to put this person in another category, which
is not close.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I say this all the time, younits as a matter
of fact, that just put this on one of my
mic checks. Some of the people that hate you the
most are the ones that are the most close to you,
the ones that plaud you, that break bread with you,
that drink with you, that cheer you on and say
everything in front of your face, and they love you.
A lot of these people can't stand your ass and
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they can't wait for you to fail, and they're waiting
for you to fall down. These are the ones be careful,
the ones that find out all this negative news, you know,
especially I've discovered so much over the last couple of
years with everything that I've gone through publicly, with the
breakup and all that type of stuff like that, of
these so called friends who cannot wait to come back
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and tell me negative stuff, stuff that they see in online.
And I tell them all the time, Man, I don't
weed that stuff. I do not read blogs like that
where I know that they're just trying to crucify me
or trying to bring me down or trying to drag me.
I don't want that negative stuff, So why are you
bringing it to me? I just want to make sure
it was your attention?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Why why you got to do that? Don't bring it
to me.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And if somebody is talking about me behind my back
wall all so and so on, so and blah blah
blah blah. Say, my question is, what are you saying,
how are you defending me? What are you saying to
make sure that you know they got the information wrong?
Or why are you bringing it back to me in
the first place. But anyway, man, I'm so happy. Like
even the cast of Martin right, who.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Was Yeah, we were just watching them this past week.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, and the cast of Martin got back together. Like
it's good. We've been waiting for this Martin reunion. They
actually had a reunion a couple of years ago. I
think they had a special that was on HBO, believe
in one of those networks. Maybe it was on Netflix.
But back in the day, you know Martin in the nineties,
same time Chris Weber in The Fab Hour Out that
was one of the biggest shows on television. Then Tisha
Campbell and Mark Lawrence had an issue where there was
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I believe she accused him of sexual harassment or whatnot,
and she actually left the show. They couldn't do scenes
together whatnot, So there was a long hubub I don't
think that last season and that season ended, but they
eventually were able to make amends for whatever went on
back then and come back together now. Like, I don't
know everything that happened there or whatever, but I know
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there are people out there who may feel like if
you accuse somebody of doing something like that, maybe that's
a breaking point where you'll never be able to mend
that relationship. I'm happy that they were because maybe at
that point in time, maybe Martin, who had been gone
through a lot of stuff back then we've heard the
stories and the rumors about you know, substance abuse and
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all that stuff like that, maybe he was a different
person there. And it's good that Tsha, if that was true,
was able to forgive him and they can move on
and make life better for themselves now. So we'll see
and for.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Sure, and especially the pressures in a work environment, you know,
I think in us learning more about the cast of
Martin and Martin Lawrence in particular, you know, he was
carrying this show with his name on it other outside factors.
But also remember Titian was married to Dwayne Martin, and
you have to that sometimes when you do have a partner,
sometimes somebody can cross the line for your partner, you
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know what I'm saying. And so it could have been
a situation where because of their friendship, the nature of
their character's relationship, that somebody else could have been offended
like hey, wait a minute, you know, and so sometimes
you do things because of the timing of it, because
of the situation, not knowing the details of their particular situation,
but yeah, it was really great. It obviously made you
miss Tommy who passed Tommy Ford, who passed away some
(14:28):
years ago. It was fun to see I've been able
to do some stand up with Carl pain And what's
funny is Carl Paine is he's traveling doing stand up now,
but we know him as Cole for Martin, but also
Cockroach from The Cosby Show, and to see him reprise
the Cole persona on the Emmys, it really made me
appreciate how much of a character he was playing, right,
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because a lot of times when you don't know actors,
you're like, oh, Carl Payne is Coal, But he definitely
is playing a character. And it was refreshing now that
I've seen another side of him as himself, to see, oh, wow,
he's actually a really great actor because Cole is an
idiot and Karl Payne isn't. Gina Tichi Campbell looked amazing.
Oh yeah, a winning look for her to Cheenah Arnold.
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They all looked really great and it was fun to
see them kind of reprise those characters. Martin. I saw
a lot of people online kind of concerned, like it's
something going on with him, but he has had several
health challenges through the year, so it's still is really
exciting to see him come out there and be a
part of the cast and present that award.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, you know, and then hopefully they'll have that reunion
once again. Maybe we'll see like a reprobut maybe just
like some kind of little small mini series whatnot for
Martin cast where they are no Timmy Ford is not
there anymore or whatnot. But once again, good to see
the Fab five get back together. Good to see the
cast and Martin get back together. You can come back
together again. One more note on this, and this is
because this is done. There been that. We started the
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conversation off talking about you know you doing god towards
fifty fifth birthday party, right and when I first got
out here and this is shout out What's crazy is
My first ever podcast ever did was with Guy Tori,
Guy Torri, Claudia Jordan, Steve Wilson. We had a podcast
called The Unstable Podcasts and we were like I think
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we were before our time. It was funny, it was relevant,
we had a good time, We had good guests come
on and whatnot. And the reason that ended was because
a lot of us kind of split off. Claudia moved
to Dallas, Steve had other things, Guy was torn or whatever.
But one of the biggest things that happened on that
podcast is that Guy and I, when I first got
out here, we were like this, like that was pretty
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much my best friend in LA And I want to
say this publicly is I think a lot of people
know that I need to apologize to him in a sense,
and we've apologized to one another since then. But during
that podcast, we actually got into a fight, an actual
fist fight. And I haven't had a fist fight since
I was investment. Well, I got in a fist fight
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when I was in the military, but it's been over
thirty years and I'm a grown ass man out here
fighting somebody in the streets. And it was over something stupid.
It was something that you know, he was telling the
joke that maybe I was in the wrong space at
the time not to be able to receive it. My
daughter was right there and all that type of stuff, and
I was going through a lot of things at that time.
I got upset. Maybe I overreacted, maybe I don't know,
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but he apologized, I apologize, and our relationship really has
not been the same ever since then, although over the
last couple of years we have been able to at
least be cordial around each other and make amends. So hopefully,
just like you see brothers like the Fab Five coming apart,
you know, splitting the part after having that bond and
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coming back together. Because I love God and I think
he's super talented. I love that he's given women like
you an opportunity and people like you an opportunity like
he gave me an opportunity. I really hope that our
relationship would be able to men itself and that one day,
maybe it won't be the same as it used to be,
but maybe one day we can get back to being
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that that that that bond that we used to have,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
So shall you gonna make You're gonna make me cry?
I love you, I love goud known both y'all for
a very long time. I do you know y'all have
a fractured relationship. But when I saw you at his show,
and I know you guys are cordial and building, that's
exciting as a mutual friend to see and and thank
you for that, because I think, like I said, a
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lot of times it's hard for us to acknowledge where
we may have fallen short in a friendship or been
a part of a break And so I listen, I'm
here for it. I see it happening in real time.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So it's good. Yeah, let's get wet. Yeah, because we
know we're doing some things together, and I think we
all need each other. So I think sometimes life gets
in the way of in our egos. And like you mentioned,
I'm so I'm glad you brought that because sometimes men,
especially when we fall out, something big, something happens, whatever,
we got to let our egos go sometimes, man, because ego,
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I learned a long time ago, stands for edging God out.
And we need God our lives there, so you.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Know, and that's the thing. And you know, on a
on a global scale, how many men and women are
dead because of ego? How many people have been killed
because of somebody's ego. And it's one of those things
someone kind of helped me check my ego when they
were like, oh, if you are a believer, if you
believe in God, it's this concept that somebody can wrong
you so much that you won't ever deal with him again.
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Speak to him again or even kill him when you
wrong God every single day and He's like, it's cool,
start over tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yep, what are you doing? Are you believing God? You
gotta have a forgiving God, and we've forgiven ourselves now
a lot of it. I ain't putting it on God,
but God, God will tell you he got He holds
bud has.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
A very strong cutoff game. God is strongest mind.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Will you will grudge what he say? He's a capricorn whatever,
those the people that hold grudges all the time. His
birthday was just just happened. So yes, yeah, so he OWDs.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
A grudge and no, God is self admittedly a grudge holder. Man,
This is the difference between me and God. Guy hold
a grudge. I don't hold grudges. I hold funerals. You
are dead, you can't bury come.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But here's the thing, So let's letten, let let's let's
let's find something here in common. Because they're they're like
we said, there are things that are forgivable and unforgivable.
There ain't a lot of things in this world that
are unforgivable. Like you said, if you're like God, you're
God like, you can forget you can't forget. You know
what I'm saying. You got to have access the same way,
but dead I mean that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Is yeah, Well, let me tell you when I say dad,
let me say, let me tell you when I say dad,
how I mean it. I mean it number one. But
it means you have zero percent access to me ever
again in the history of life.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
M m okay, so wow wow.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But like to me. To me, the reason why I
have had to make that distinction because people have told
me I hold grudges. To me, in order to hold
a grudge, it would have to be someone I'm holding
space for. Is somebody I would talk about, is somebody
I might share in. I don't you literally never exist again.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
See I'm the opposite. I can't. I can't hold grudges.
I just can't. I just can't hold it in my heart.
I just like I said, I won't give you access,
but I just cannot hold a grudge because I think
when you hold a grudge anytime you see that person,
like when you cut somebody off. That's why I say,
I'll give you an emotional vacation. When when you cut
that person off and you hold that grudge when you
see them, gets who is impacted. You're impacted because all
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of a sudden, you go into space that you don't
want to be in, you don't want to be around
this person, you want to leave, and all that type
of stuff like that. So when I see these people
that I have not given access to, I'll be cordial.
I'm won't cut you off. I'll give you, but I
won't give you the same access that you used to have.
But I will not cut you off a whole grudges
and make it seem like a man and better, because
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once again, it's almost like you know, giving somebody poison,
and you know you taking poison and expecting somebody else
to die, and that's just not the way. So we'll
see what happens there. Meanwhile, we both have some in common.
Once again, we're both Alabama. We're both big Alabama fans.
You actually went to University Alabama. We both love Nick Saban.
Shout out to the gold finally retiring seven national championship
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six at Alabama. Job well done. I don't think anybody's
upset about that. But we got to see what Kaitlyn
de Boor does. Now. The Washington head coach is coming
in to fill those big shoes. The question I have
for you units would you feel comfortable filling the shoes
of a legend? Have you ever done it before?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Oh, fill the shoes of a legend. That's a really
great question. I don't know in what okay, So I'm
trying to think. I don't know that I've ever been
positioned to even try to do something like that. I think, Oh,
you know, when I was named the anchor, you know,
I replaced someone who had been on the air for
forty plus years. But I think I was a very
different type of person, So I don't think there were
that many comparisons between us. He was a white man
(22:49):
who had been on the air for you know, forty
years in the market, and then I was this, you know, young,
gorgeous hot thing. I don't think we got too.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Many nothing has changed.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You're still young to get my mic all. But I
think for Washington's coach, oh, I'm sorry, Alabama's new coach.
So I can tell you I have not taken the
time learning about Kaylyn de Bor. I haven't given him
any energy yet. I want to talk about Nick Saban though,
and Nick Saban gets a lot of credit for obviously
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being a great coach and then and the championships. He
also had four Heisman winners, which Alabama had never had
a Heisman winner before Savan and now you have four
under him. But he also has an extremely high graduation
graduation rate with his players, and that's something that never
really gets spoken about. The quarterback for this past year,
Jalen Milro has already graduated and is coming back, and
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so I would like to at least make that note.
But what I want to say about coach Saban is
that he changed the culture not just of Alabama football,
but of college football in its entirety. And what's disappointing
is when people, you know a lot of people are saying,
oh no, the nil he didn't like that, couldn't compete.
He felt like, you know, it took his edge away.
You know, the man seventy two years old. How much
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more does he have to do? I think to try
to create a narrative that he was chased out of
college football is unfair and unrealistic. I think he has
a wife he wants to spend time with. I think
she's also having some health challenges. He bought property and
Mercedes dealerships in Florida. I think he wants to try
to enjoy some of his life. I think it's gonna
be really hard for him to do because he loved
what he was doing and did it so well and
(24:23):
at such a high level. But I think at some
point you have to say, look, I have nothing left
to prove. Yep, let me go on to the next
chapter of my life.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I agree. I totally agree with that. I mean that,
you know, I think some people, coaches, players, a lot
of even people in the entertainment business, stick around too
long and then all of a sudden, it's like you
don't want to remember them for the last thing that
you saw them. You want to remember them in their glory.
Nick Saban still the greatest coach of all time in
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college football, without a doubt. I don't think there's anybody,
BEB Bryan or Eddie Robinson. He's tough, whatever, you know what,
He's the great, He's the goat. He did it during
this era. He did it during that era. Winn in
two different schools at LSU, won six at Alabama, and
like you said, he was still winning. This man went
to the College Football Playoffs this year. He was two
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games away from winning another national championship. So we don't
want to see.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Him with with a team that was very undisciplined and young,
like yep, this wasn't even like a great Bama team, not.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
At all because he but they were well coached. And
he's always losing great assistance who go on to become
good head coaches or whatever, transfer portal, everything he's had
to deal with. He's always really is a good recruiter
and it's Alabama, right, So, like we love Alabama obviously,
but when you got other options out there, like usc Miami,
you can go out to Oregon one of those great
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facilities out there or whatever. Ain't a lot of people
that want to go to Tuscaloos. I'm just saying, I
love Alabama, don't give me.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And it's a hard place. It's a hard place to be.
Even before coach Saban, you know, we went through quite
a few coaches in quick succession for a while, you know.
So he stayed there for about seventeen years. That was
unheard of, right, And so I think the war is
gonna have a good time because he's coming in as
a good head coach. He's coming in with a great record,
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and I think Alabama's fans, even though people consider us
to be pretty obnoxious and elitists. Whatever, Yeah, I'm like whatever,
time I think we're sophisticated enough to roll tide, we're
sophisticated enough to understand that all things must change. And
this is a totally new person, totally new regime, and
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we're gonna be Bama supporters regardless. Now our in state rival,
and I used that term loosely, Auburn they actually roll
the trees at too much corner, which is what they
generally do at big victories and when they win games.
And so when Saban's announcements of retirement came out, it
was like ding dong, the witch is dead. And it's like,
just because Saban is leaving does not mean you are
(26:57):
going to start winning, doesn't, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I mean since Ben Bryant, Uh, I mean Barb Bryant,
the coach that won a championship before him, right after
Jims Jamms Stalins won a championship. Now, we went through
some bad you know, the Bowls and all those, and.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, we always point out my senior year at Alabama
we lost every home game, including homecoming under Mike de Boat.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yes, yeah, Mike, I mean it was some terrible coaches
in between Jims Dallings and Nick Saban. So but the
thing is, it's like eventually get it right, Kayln. The
Board is a really good coach coming from Washington. He
was one went away from They could have played each other.
If if if Alabama would have been Michigan, he would
have been playing Washington and Kaylen the Board International Championship Game,
who knows what would happen. There will not great quarterback play.
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He's a good offensive mine or whatever. Alabama fans are
excited about him for right now, but I will sight.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Now, but I will say and they say Saving hand
picked him, had a lot to do a successor, and
I think that's why a lot of fans are like, Okay,
well accept it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And the good thing about him is that since Saving
did that gave him the endorsement, and the Board said
he will always have an open door for Nick Saban
to come back anytime he wants to. He's already doing
the right things. But like you said, he's a different
coach than Nick Saban. Nick Saban's a little bit of
old school. The boar kind of is in this whole
the nil, the transfer portal and all he used the
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transfer porter well when he was at Washington getting Michael
Pennix to come from Indiana. So I think he'll do
well there because he's not going to try to be
Nick Saban. And like you said, when you replace that
guy who was forty years in the business in Alabama,
white dude or whatever, you didn't come in and try
and replace him. You came in to be you, the
best version of you. And for the people that will
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accept that, they'll accept that in some of the more
because you're not that forty year old, the forty year
veteran white guy. So you're not gonna win those guys.
If you're not gonna win those people over, whatever, all
you can do is come in be the best version
of you and win some new fans over that probably
wasn't a fan of the forty year old white girl
so forty you know.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And it's also just as a talent in this business
as a coach, anybody who has a skill set, you
can't be replaced. You know, someone can take the job,
but it's not a replacement. And just because we're talking
about Alabama and coaching, I would like to give a
personal shout out to the Houston Texans coach by Jamik o'
ryan and Ryans is also from our hometown, Avestmer Our
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High school. Absolutely also went to Alabama, And I used
to work for Demico for many years as the executive
director of his foundation, and so I just want to
shout him out. I love seeing all the positive press about,
you know, this first year head coach making it to
the playoffs. But you know, not for nothing, a black
coach with a black quarterback, a rookie quarterback, a rookie coach.
So let's go.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And I'm techn yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm definitely room for
the Houston Texans and Deniko Ryan and CJ. Stroud out there.
How about Bessemer? Man, how about us me? I mean,
like outside, look at not just Bestmer, not just Justla there.
Jameis Winston's from Bessemer, Bo Jackson's from best Best. I'm
from Bessemer, You're from Investment, Carrie Rhoades, de Miko Ryans.
(30:03):
You know. But the thing is a lot of those
people did sports. Look at what we're doing. We're we
kind of came through sports or whatever, but we're doing
something making a name for ourselves outside. That's what need
to start naming some streets after us. I'm just saying
they need to start honoring us.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Mike. I have I have been the Grand Marshal of
the best Christmas Parade.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I ain't get nothing. They ain't give me no key
to no city. They have been the Grand Marshals as
much as I shout out best, but man, they ain't
come on man, the best of my hall of feen. Look,
I ain't got nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I don't wait. I want to remind you you kind
of you kind of talked trash about them, the people
that's voting on that you kind of talk trash about
them at the beginning of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I know I didn't. I know I did not talk
to you. So I want to so let me clarify.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I just said the mentality, you ain't got no key
to the city.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I ain't got no key to this good the mayor.
I'm just saying, there's a there's a mentality, there's an
even understanding, there's.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
A mentality invitation to be grandmar There's.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
A mentality throughout there. But see what I plan on
doing this.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know what I think it is. Let me tell
you this. I think it is. I don't think that
mentality is unique to bestmer. I think it's a very
common perception for people who leave home. I think anybody
who leaves their hometown comes back and feels probably the
very same thing. It depends on the hometo when you
have left and you've gotten some exposure and you've kind
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of seen it, everybody's everybody's doing what they're doing on
whatever level. So I think sometimes that's just a perception
when anybody goes back to their hometown trying to save it.
I'm trying to say, I'm trying to save your invitation.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I only need saving in this one because what I'm
saying is what I want is I want us to
always thrive to do better everywhere, no matter what. And
it's not, like you said, subjective. But it's not unique.
It's to unite. It's not unique to bestment, it's unique
to every it's everywhere. Like you said, you.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Can go back saying I'm saying everybody who goes back
to their hometown probably feels that. I don't think it's
a unique that people investment are that way. I think
when you go back to your hometown, you don't see
much has changed. You see people doing this same things.
But I have come to respect that that is a projection, right,
because everybody doesn't want the same things or have the
same idea of what they would want, right, And so
(32:09):
I've learned. I've had to learn, even whether they were
friends or families, I would be projecting what I thought
they should be doing or what I thought they should want,
and that ain't none of my business, you know. And
so I learned to just let people be where they are.
I want people to let me be where I am,
and it just all coexists.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And I respect you for that. I respect that. I'm
just saying my whole mentality is I could be wrong.
I mean I feel like I've just probably Yeah, I
I could be. But here's what I want to do.
I haven't forgotten where I came from. And what I
want to do is I want to go back. My
whole lot in life is to one day build a
foundation so that I can buy the block out where
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I used to live. I want to buy my old
block on twenty one eleven Berkeley Avenue in South Vestmer.
I want to buy that whole block, and I want
to build a learning center right there. And I don't
want to put up a basketball courts. I don't want
to do any of that stuff when it comes to sports,
of course that's part of it or whatever. But I
want to build a learning center where I can teach
them computer all those things I'm talking about mental health.
(33:10):
There are so many things that because you have come
out and you've been exposed to other things that you
want to take back and you want to teach to
help us to become better people. No matter where you are.
That's the best in Alabama. That could be in Bronx,
New York. That could be in Compton, California, that could
be anywhere you are. If you leave somewhere and you're
in exposed to something that you feel like can help
(33:30):
your people become better people so that we can get
out of some so called rut to some people, then
you should do that best. We see the statistics all
the time. Right now, Bestmer, Alabama, per capital, has the
highest crime rate in the nation. It is called the
most dangerous city in the nation. I want to do
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whatever I can to change the mentality of that so
that people don't feel like they need to commit any crimes.
So we can go back there and give them hope
and that is what I'm talking about when I go back.
So it's not like I'm afraid to go back or
I dislike the people. I love my people investment. I
shot out bestment everywhere I go, and I'm going to
use my platforms nationally wherever I am to represent bestment,
(34:14):
not because I can't. I came from the Bronx, New York.
I was born in Bronx, New York, and I'll always
represent New York. Don't get me wrong, but I spent
my childhood, my high school years down in best from
in Alabama, and it means a lot to me. So
I want to go back and help out with that
mentality to make us better people no matter where you are.
I don't care if I could be a scholar, I
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could be a mensa right and you could be very smart.
I want to bring smart people up to becoming a genius.
That's why we are always trying to uplift our people
no matter where we are. So when I say mentality,
we know that there is a mentality there that some
people just feel like there is no hope because they
haven't seen anything else. So I want to expose them
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to that so that they can have that hope so
that we can become better people overall throughout the city
of Bessemer. That's just what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'll let you know what says about that.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Okay, Well, well I'm okay, uh, Tony, So I'm saying
things Tony Dungee saying things when it comes to Taylor Swift.
All right, Taylor Swift obviously is with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Now, I don't think we've talked about Taylor Swift since
our very first episode, right, well.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't think so, because when when they started with
Travis Kelce and that whole relationship began, we was wondering
how long it's gonna be ling. They seemed like they're
still strong. She came into some zero temperatures to come
out there and support them, doing the swag surf for
whatever you call that. I don't know if that was
a swag surf, but she was trying. They did this
give them eighth effort. They were trying. But Tony Dungee,
(35:45):
who was the former Indianapolis said the coach Hall of
Famer who's now an NBC broadcaster, said that it was
He said, disingchant NFL fans as a distraction and obviously
the Swift East came for him, and it's like they
always do, is Taylor Swift? Do you think is it
a distraction or is it something that is good for
(36:06):
the game of the NFL because it's exposing other people
who would not watch the NFL to the game itself.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So I think the NFL thinks it's great because the
NFL is reaping the benefits of having that many more
people tune in, that many more people buy jerseys, that
many people care about the NFL. So the NFL would say, yes,
this is great. I think the people that are conflicted
or challenged by it are probably people who are NFL fans,
probably particularly Kansas City Chiefs fans, because even among those fans,
(36:38):
some are excited that they're getting all this attention and
they love Travis Kelsey before Taylor Swift came into the picture.
And then some of those same fans are like, Hey,
this is a football team. Why do y'all keep tell
my Taylor Swift. So I think this is one of
those double edged swords that it's a gift and a curse,
and depending on which side you want to believe in. Personally,
I still think it's a manufactured relationship. I still don't
believe that it's real, but don't know about it care
(37:00):
what I think. But I think Travis kelce I think
Travis Kelcey. I think the NFL and I think Taylor
Swift are all happy, and I think the Kansas City
Chiefs are happy. The fans. I think that's who's divided
on the concepts of I do think it's weird how
much they show her in the stands. I do think
(37:20):
it's kind of low lying fruit at this point. I
think it's I think once you show her, once we're good,
you know. I think I think it's an overexposure in
that context, yes, for sure, And I think that's how
you do turn people against it and create a negative
vibe to it, because you it's overdone, it's oversaturated, it's overexposed.
(37:41):
But at the end of the day, the Kansas City
Chiefs are focused on the more important business of football,
and as long as they're winning, I don't think it'll
be that big of a deal. But once they lose,
then of course people are going to say the distraction
of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yep, exactly. This is the same thing they did with
Jessica Simpson, Tony Romo. Back in the day, Tony Romo
charged struggling, and they started blaming always. Yeah, I'm you know,
I'm not saying it's right, because it's not right. Here's
what Tony actually said. That's the thing that ever, I agree,
(38:16):
that's that man. You don't let that man be in
his relationship. Ain't nobody know. The thing is, I'm just
happy that people didn't blame Russell Wilson's issues on Sierra.
I'm just happy that didn't come down because that could
have easily been the case as well. But they actually did.
They did in Seattle. They did, they did. They actually said,
like it became to Hollywood and all that type of
stuff like that. But that's that's neither he said. There's
(38:38):
so much on the outside coming in entertainment value, uh,
and different things taken away from what really happens on
the field. Sports is entertainment, and so I love and
respect Tony Dungee. But sports is a former entertainment and
if you can cross the two over, then it's a
win win for both sides, for the entertainment, for the
NFL side, for sports side. Period. You go to a
(38:59):
Lakers game where they show. They show all the Hollywood
stars sitting in front row Jack. Nobody talks about how
many cutaways you know, Jack gets, you know, sitting at
Laker games whatnot. Nobody talks about that, Chris Rock, Spike
Lee and MSG whatnot. It's all part of the game. Whatnot? Now,
once again, do they show too many cutaways of Taylor
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Swift during the game. That's not Taylor's fault? Why is
that on her? So? I agree with you, it shouldn't
be the woman's fault because the network chooses to show
a Taylor Swift cutaway anytime Travis Kelsey gets a three
time three.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Hous goes back to the original argument of Travis Kelce
was a superstar with many endorsements before the Taylor Swift
came into his life. Yes, it has gone up exponentially.
She rolls the profile of someone who already had a
high profile. But not to debate that again. But this
is what I do want to say about the NFL
(39:55):
in particular. They are very uncreative. They are very reactive
in their marketing. In that let's use this year as
an example, the whole Tailor Swift thing. They've really leaned
into the tailor swift thing the league has also when
they use Kim Kardashian to make the announcement of Usher
(40:17):
being the halftime entertainment who was very reactionary and following
the trends and not setting the trends. And the biggest thing,
the biggest, biggest thing that most people don't even really
think about or understand. The only reason the NFL has
a super Bowl halftime show, which is one of the
elite performances for an entertainer in the world, is because
(40:38):
of In Living Color. Because they didn't used to do
anything at halftime and Kenyan, Ivory Wyans and In Living
Color had a special super Bowl halftime show that took
all the viewers from the Super Bowl to watch that
special edition of In Living Color And there has been
a halftime super Bowl show ever since. And most people
don't realize that's the only reason you have this halftime
(40:58):
super Bowl show. It's because of Kenans. I just want
to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
You know what's crazy is you shout out to Keenan,
Ivry Wins and all the black Uh, let me shut
up because I work for Fox right now.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
But this is you know, NFL historically is not leaving
the charge in marketing. They are very reactionary and bandwagon
ish in how they market themselves.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I agree. I was just going to give props to
all the black programming that was on Fox a long
time ago that built the network up to be able
to get the NFL. So that's part of it, and
we see that, we see that with TV now. So
I'm just letting you know that. You know, that's another
done there been that I don't even know who owns
to who owns Wow? Okay, there you go, there you go.
(41:45):
Let me shut up because I still work with Fox.
I don't want to keep.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Just owns who else?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Okay, well we need we need? Can we cut this
as a matter of fa Yeah, no, I want to
make I want to make a quick about the marketing thing.
I think the NFL is geniuses. I mean, because we're
talking about it right now, right, so we're also talking
about their product. So anytime you can get people talking,
no matter what, even if it's controversial, even if you
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don't like it, people are talking about it. And whether
they say, any publicity is good publicity, whether it's good
or bad.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I don't believe that as a purposist, I don't believe that, but.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
We're talking about that. We are talking about it, and
once again, like you said, with Taylor Swift, that whole
fan base coming over. There may be thousands of not millions,
not millions, but tens of thousands of people who are
watching just to get a cut see a cutaway of
Tailor Swift that will never watch City Chiefs million. Yeah,
it depends on if it's if it's a playoff game, yeah,
because they get millions of fans, But I don't think
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it's gonna be millions more watching to see a Tailor
Swift cutaway. But if it's you know, if it's a
game that gets four or five million dollars on a week,
four or five million views on a weekly basis, yeah,
maybe tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands just to
see a Tailor Swift cut away just to see if
she's at the game. So I do believe that's helping
what not. I don't know about the whole Travis Kelcey
and all that type of stuff like that. You know,
(43:04):
as far as him gaining me, his.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Jerseys are selling for a lot more money. More of
his jerseys are selling. I mean, you can quantify the
difference in his marketability and his actual valuation since he
has been attached to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, I mean that's that's short. Look, hey, shout out
to Taylor Swift. I mean, she's one of the most
popular people in the United States or in the world.
So anybody that's attached to it, you could be her
best friend. You can just become her best friend right now,
and your your Instagram follows to go up to tens
of millions of people. That's just the way the world works.
So that's good. Mentioned the jackets, cayl you sec is
(43:42):
his wife made some jackets. I believe the Taylor Swift
and all those people whatever. That's really so. So every
time Taylor Swift posts something with those jackets whatever, then
her marketing goes up big. So anybody's associated.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
With it's very The thing is Taylor Swift. Okay. I
know that if I say this, the Swifties might come
from me, But I don't think the Swifties are listening
to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
You'll find it. They will, But I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Go ahead and say this. I'm gonna go ahead and
say this. I think Taylor Swift is don't come back
in the frame, don't leave me out here by myself.
I'm gonna say this because when you brought up the jackets,
you brought up the jackets and the and then you have,
you know, the secret handshakes with all these new best friends.
(44:29):
It's it's very high schoolish to me, the engagement of
it in the in the in the suite, and I
feel like a lot of times Taylor, who is a
thirty plus your old woman, feels like she cosplays a
high school nerd. I feel like her persona is the
girl that didn't get picked, the girl that didn't get
(44:50):
asked to the dance. And I'm like, she is literally
the most popular woman on the planet. So it's just
a little weird that the persona is, you know, she's
just this teenage, you know, bullied kid. So that's not
nothing bad about Taylor.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Okay, that wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
That was just it's just interesting how she's kind of
put out there and I'm like, she's like a thirty
three year old woman.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Okay, that's all, let's move on. I had to take
my head. I've had the sweet's come after me before
one time, so I know them little white girls.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Going I'm saying, listen, I can't take anyway, anything away
from anyone who's doing something at a high level, and
she's doing it at the highest level that it's ever
been done. There is nothing for me to say. I'm
just making the observation of how she is presented, but
that's not actually who she is. That's it. That's it,
all right, that's a good time.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
It's a good time to get this woman.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
She's just a grown up woman, that's all.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's a good time to get to stop that what
you got this week?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yes, okay, so my that is It might be an
LA thing, but I think it's at every place thing
because I've experienced it on different levels. I'm just going
to talk about it. From last week, we mentioned Guy
Tori's birthday show and a party. In addition to the
people that were on the show that I already mentioned,
there are also several comedians in the buildings and names
(46:19):
that you know, Gary Payton or Cory Hokum or DC
young Fly. A lot of people came out to show
their support. This is what I want people to stop doing.
There is a weird vibration that people have when they
have deemed that someone is important and maybe I don't
know what it is. I don't know if you know
what it is. But there's this energy people have when
(46:41):
they're trying to jockey for position to be next to somebody,
or to be near somebody, or to say they talk
to this person, or to say they got a picture
with this person. It's a weird vibration. It's very off
putting to me. And I don't know if you noticed,
but most people will notice. If I'm somewhere, I'm usually
kind of sitting off to the side or kind of
falling back because the energy is palpable that it's a
(47:02):
thirst that is going on. Yep, that's weird. I don't
like it. Stop that everybody is worthy and deserving of
respect and admiration on some level. So I don't like
when you know I told you about the Walgreens list,
it probably goes back to that. For me. I don't
like when certain people are treated I'm not even saying
better or special, because sometimes that might be the situation.
(47:24):
I was performing that night, so it was nice. I
had a dressing room, it was nice, accommodations were made
for me to perform. But at the same time, we're
all just here we're all just trying. Everybody's cool, everybody's easy.
Stop jocking, particularly, let me say men, men stop jocking
for positioning with other men. I also used to see
(47:44):
this when I was a publicist for athletes. I can't
tell you how many times I have been elbow pushed
or stepped on by a man to get next to
a man that he has deemed important. Not that.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, thirsty, thirsty jocking, thirsty, enamored with the fame like that,
enamored with it.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Stop that, my stoff. That has something to do with
what we're doing right now. Obviously, I just started stand
up for you know, last two months, and I'm new
to the thing whatnot. And I'm already getting to be
on a couple of venues that a lot of people
who've been out here for a long time want to
right And I feel for them. I know they've been
putting into work or whatever. They've been in the clubs,
(48:24):
they've been out here for ten years. And I've already
done the comedy store, I've done the improv, I've done
the ice house out here I'm talking about. These are
some big venues. I did a big show in Inglewood
with some big comedians the last month as well. But
stop hating on other people's favor you know what I mean.
I am a person that I have put in my
work on stage as far as like you know, corporate events,
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being on television or whatever. There are a lot of
other comics that are There are a lot of comics
that really support me, that really come and say, hey, man,
what happened that you're doing this? And you have need tips?
You can call me anytime. But I also feel theirs
and I've heard that there are some comics out here
that hated that I'm getting these opportunities, and they're telling
(49:08):
their other friends, like Od's Mike doing this. He just started.
The only reason he's getting this is because blah blah
blah this and all that type of like, stop hating
on other people's favor, man. I believe me. I would
take the improv I would take the comedy store. That's
good because it's offered to me. But I also take
doing my comedy on the stage in front of three
people at a Chinese restaurant. I'm willing to put in
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my work. It's not like I want to be elevated
to the top We do this all the time. Believe me,
even in my business as a host who's done this
for years and pretty good at it. I see people
who come in as an actor. They could be a
D list actor in that right now, and they take opportunities.
I shouldn't say take opportunities. They get opportunities and they're
not hosts. But I can't hate on that because what
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was meant for them is meant for them. Actors, rappers, whatnot.
Used to get mad when rappers came and took jobs whatever.
Now you see some of the best actors in the
world are rappters, Queen lad For, Will Smith or whatever whatnot.
So please stop hating on people who get favor just
because you don't have your opportunity right now. Focus on
(50:15):
what you need to be doing and what's going to
come for you, and stop hating on other people who
are getting these opportunities right now. I know it's tough
because you put in your work whatever. But if you
take that on this off of putting all that hate
into them, and focus and put that energy in what
needs to happen for you, I guarantee you you'll get
to where you want to go. A lot sooner, So
stop that.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Ooh, I will say, I know when we started, you
said I might be feeling you on your stop that.
I'm less than a year in Los Angeles and I've
had a really great time and I've gotten some really
great opportunities, and I also receive that energy of I
told my mom one time, whether it was on stage
(50:57):
or you know, great opportunities I've gotten at TMZ in
a shorter at a time, I said, there's a lot
of who is this bitch energy that radiates around me
and it's not any of my business, and it's a
it's a real vibration. You know, I see it. And
this is what I say to people when they say, well,
how did you get this or how'd you? I say,
you know, I realize I'm having a unique experience, and
(51:18):
so I'm just looking to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
You're not going what I eat don't make you shit, Exactly.
That's really the root of it.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Are you going to if somebody were to offer you
once once again? You just came out here and somebody, uh,
the biggest director in Hollywood comes up and says, I
want to make you the lead in my next movie,
and it's going to be a one hundred million dollar budget.
What are you gonna do? Say no, I'm not ready.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
There's been so many people here here.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Come on, man, like, come on, let's just like people.
Sometimes that's what favor is. Sometimes you may be able
to walk through doors that you may not feel like
you would ever been able to walk through, you're not
prepared for, or you're not qualified for. That is what
God's favorite is. So believe it or not, man, you're
going to be able to get opportunities that you're not
you don't feel like you're prepared for or qualify for.
(52:02):
But you got to take the focus off of looking
at what other people.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Would get exactly, man, to look at what anybody else
is doing.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Think about this units as a sportscaster right now, you
think I look at all the athletes who are coming
in right now, who are becoming sportscasters. They're not journalists. Whatever.
I'm not gonna get mad at them. I'm not gonna
be grudge them because they're getting the opportunities that somebody
else wanted to give them. I'm not gonna shit on them.
I'm not going to say, hey, this person, now as
long as the person is not coming in and saying, hey,
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you shouldn't. I know UNITS has been out here for
ten years, but hey man, I'm on television and I
got so many followers or whatever and all that type
of stuff like that. Uh, why would I come If
I came up to that person who was giving an
opportunity and say you shouldn't put you and it's on
for me to get on, then I can understand that.
But otherwise, if somebody wants to give me an opportunity
because I'm trying to become more of a multi hyphen
(52:54):
and do other things in this in this in this business, man,
we should just applaud each other and root each other
one because you never know. You become my friend, I
become your friend. If I go somewhere, maybe I can
carry you with me and give you the opportunity that
you never got before.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
So that's true, right, And I think as long as
you focus on your own journey, you're gonna be okay.
You know, I was thinking we were talking about the Emmys.
You know, this is my first Emmy season. I guess
being out here, I wasn't invited, I wasn't nominated, I
wasn't involved. But I was excited at how many people
I know that won Emmys or were nominated for Emmy's,
were wrote on the Emmys or you know, and I'm like, wow,
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I can't say that that I would have known these
people last year, or that I would have been down
the street. And so that's exciting to me to be
close to people who are getting great opportunities. I don't
begredge it in anyway, but you know, when I came
from being a stand up comedian to doing the news,
you know, I was promoted over people who had been
reporters there for twelve thirteen years, and it was like,
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who is this person who has never done TV before
being main anchor? And so I knew why I was
getting the vibe. I understood why I was received even
the energy. But if you just think about it, if
you're looking at someone that you feel has surpassed you
and an opportunity, you have to know it's not them
because you was already there. It just wasn't your situation.
So don't ever give somebody else so much power over
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you and live rent free in your head just because
that wasn't your time. And sometimes you miss your time
because you're looking at somebody else's time. Stay focused on
your own road and ride that thing out.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Absolutely, keep doing what you're doing too. I said that
one atout that I am. I'm very proud of your units.
Keep on doing what you're doing. We'll be back next week.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I'm proud of you too.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Thank you to all the fans. Once again, you and
just not took our first ever publicity photo with a
fan that it's wonderful. Keep on coming up to us
then letting us know, give us that feedback, get us
up in our Twitter accounts and our Instagram. Let us
know what you want to see on the show. We're
going to start incorporating some guests in the show as well.
Subscribe to the podcast on iHeart or wherever you can
find your podcast and go to the done there been
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that YouTube page and subscribe as well, so that you
can see Units's beautiful face. You don't want to see mine,
but you want to hear this melodious voice all the time.
There you go, yeah, there is. That's that's what I
bring to the table. Thank you, Eunis, great job as always.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Thank you Mike. I'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
See you next week. Peace y'all.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Another week's Done that and been in that podcast Mike Hill,
you and his Elliott hanging out with you?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
What's up you in this We're going on? Mike Hill.
I feel like we keep seeing each other.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We live in the same city.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You're there everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's not you know, even though LA's big, Even though
LA's big, is still a small city, especially amongst us,
we see each other in the entertainment industry. As a
matter of fact, we're gonna start a new segment called
what have you Done? Where have you been? And I
have seen you? I did see you last week at
got towards birthday party.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, he had a big show downtown at the Novo Theater.
It's my first time being there. It was really cool
to get to open that show with Guy Tori, Fifth Entertainer, Deal,
Hugh Lee, Coco Brown, Bubbah Dub and still being relatively
new in town. I felt, you know, pretty special. For
my face was even on the birthday cake. I was like, oh,
I can retire. Where's my star on the hollyway Walker fame?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
At this point, you know what, here's the thing and
you're going to get that eventually. Can I just go
ahead and give you your props? Not just because you're
a homegirl, because I love you to death, but you
belonged on that stage. I mean, I was so proud
every time I see you get up on the stage
and do your thing, even the first time I saw you.
I believe the first time I saw you in person
was at Earthquakes show.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, Earthquake a.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Couple of months back, and I didn't know you had
a mouth like that. But when you see this sweet
little units and I'm but but it's funny, it's really funny,
and you belong up there. So we'll talk more about
that a little bit later on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And I also want to say Mike was at that
show and at that party, and I think we took
officially our first done there been that fan picture.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We did, Yeah something If somebody came up to us
and said they loved the podcast, shout out to everybody
that's been watching and subscribing to the podcast and listening
faithfully or whatnot and arguing with us on social media.
We love it all the good, the bad, the other
than between. So thank you for supporting the podcast. As always,
you want to jump right back into it, Let's do
it all right. Hey, I was so happy because I
(02:21):
was One of the things I did this week, obviously
is working at Fox Sports. And one of the games
that we had the other day on Martin Luther King's
Day on the fifteenth was the Michigan Ohio State game
and they had a cutaway and they had the Fab
five was back on for Chris Weber, Jalen, Juwan, Ray, Jimmy,
(02:42):
all of them back. Of course, everybody knows the Fab
five back in the nineties, early nineties Michigan basketball, the
freshman cessation that turned college basketball on his head, the
long black shorts, the black shoes. I mean, they just
brought a lot of swagger. They brought a lot of
culture to the oral of college basketball. Love them or
hate them. A lot of people hated them, but a
lot of us loved them because they brought a lot
(03:03):
of notorwadget to game basketball. Well. Over the years, they've
had some issues, and that was the first time they
had actually been at chrystl Arena for a basketball game
since nineteen ninety three as a group because there was
some dissension between them. They fell out for some reasons.
The booster has got named Ed. I can't think of
his name right now, but Ed Martin. Ed Martin was
(03:24):
a booster. So a lot of the things that Michigan
accomplished over the years got wiped out because of the
NCAA investigation and the sanctions and whatnot, and it caused
dissension between the group, and it also caused some decision
between the players and the University of Michigan because University
of Michigan pretty much just wiped them away as well.
So they finally came back because Juwan has been the
(03:44):
head coach of Michigan for the last couple of years,
and over the years, I think Jalen and Juwan actually
just made up a couple of years because they those
two were really at odds. And I'm so happy to
see those brothers because I love Jalen, I love Juwan,
A love all of them, you know, Juwan, Jalen, and
(04:05):
who am I missing?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Tris Chris.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Chris is my guy as well. And the fact that
they've been able to get back together and show that
love for one another again. As they said, it's family,
and sometimes family falls out, but family eventually gets back together.
So I'm happy to see that.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's always good when someone that you knew as a
group is able to come back as a group. And
there's so many things that can cause ascension. You mentioned
about the booster and them getting you know, their banners
not being hung, and all the tension and stress of
also just friendships. I think for me, my memory of
the Fab five was, you know, it was one of
my first times I heard of a college team. You
(04:44):
knew every person on the team.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It wasn't just one star, it was the Fab five.
They were a complete group. So yeah, over the years,
knowing that they weren't in contact, they weren't friends, was
heartbreaking in an outsider spectator kind of way. But it
does make you think about friends you've had over the years. Yep,
and when have you had friends? I know, personally, I
have friends that I'm pretty sure I'll never speak to again.
(05:09):
I don't have anything negative, bad, or you know, ungodly
to say about them. But sometimes you can have a
disagreement with a friend take a little time apart, express
your positions, and the friendship goes on unfazed. In my experience,
when I've had friendships that have just ended and no
one has reached out, I feel like that's more than
(05:29):
a disagreement or misunderstanding. I think that's more of an
exposure of this probably wasn't really a friendship in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Exactly exactly. I totally agree with you. Sometimes it's reason
season lifetime, right. So a lot of people that we
went to high school with, obviously we went to the
same high school. I went years before you, so we
don't have to make that years before me. But I
went to school with your sister, who's not that much
older than you, just by the way. And there are
people that I went to high school with that I
(05:56):
was really close to. I thought they were going to
be lifelong friends. And now i've I looked. I may
have maybe two friends that I went to high school
with that I still speak to today. One I just
saw right before Christmas, a guy named Vincent Hussin who's
a lifelong friend. And it happens over the years going
to the Air Force, you meet guys that you hang
out with that you're really tight with that you'll keep
(06:16):
in touch with, but you're not as close as you
used to be. I don't like to fall out or
I don't like to say cut people off unless they've
done something really negative. We'll get into that in just
a second. Is something that is a breaking point where
you'll never look back or whatnot. But at the same time,
I do get people emotional vacations because some people aren't
(06:38):
meant to go with you in the next phases of
your life. You know what I mean, because you grow
up and you grow apart from some people. Now you
can grow apart from some people because they've chosen to
stay in a certain mentality. We're both from Best in
Alabama and nothing to shit on Best Alabama because we
love our hometown. But we know that bestmer Alabama. The
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state of Alabama has issue sometimes and there's a mentality
when you go down to Best Went. I don't know
if you feel this way you and this, but I'll
speak for myself. When I go to Bestmen sometimes there's
still a mentality there that doesn't feel like certain people
have grown or they want to grow, maybe because they
have not been exposed to other things and so when
I go back, I feel like I don't feel like
(07:21):
I'm above anybody, but I don't feel like some people
have grown up from when they were seventeen or twenty
five years old, you know what I mean? Because of
that mentality, and a lot of times it's depressing for
me to be quite honest with you, because I really
want us as a people, especially my former friends, to
grow and to become bigger and better and understand that
(07:42):
there's so much more out there beyond what we've seen.
But if they can't, then it's time for me to
break off and move on. Like with the Fab Five,
I love that they were able to have that friendship
as freshmen coming into Michigan doing what they did break apart,
but then eventually realize as mature men that hey, you
know what what we did, what that was happening. That
(08:03):
was petty and it shouldn't be something that breaks apart
the bond that we have and the bond that we
can continue to have. So I'm happy that they're doing
their thing right now.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And I know, especially when men are involved, there's a
lot of pride and ego, So that's also really great
that everybody you know you have to check yourself in
some way to reconcile with someone. Even if you don't
feel like you were in the wrong, you still have
to check your pride and ego and being able to
accept somebody that you feel wronged by, let alone be
the one to apologize and acknowledge. Hey, I dropped the
ball on that. I was thinking about this this morning
(08:35):
about friendships. Oh, I was gonna say opposite to you.
My cutoff game is strong. I mean when I tell
you listen, it is like a super It's like my superpower. Okay,
I can literally never talk to you ever again and
feel nothing. I'm not mad, I'm not gonna say anything
bad about you, but I literally am never looking for
you again. And I was thinking about one time I
(08:56):
had It wasn't even a disagreement with a close friend
of mine, but it was just our energy was off
this day and everything I said it seemed like she
kind of just was snapping at me, and I was like, hey,
I'll just talked to you later, And it bothered me
the whole entire day that something was off between me
and this close friend. By the time I called her
back that evening, she answered the phone by Sam and
I'm gonna be so upset if you're calling me to
(09:17):
apologize first, because it was bothering her, you know, And
it was like, ooh, you beat me to it. And
we just talked, like what's going on? What happened? It
turned out she just got too hungry, she got didn't
know what was going on. But I also have had
friends that I thought I was super close with we
have a fallen out and I never think about talking
(09:39):
to them ever again, like same day.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
What could cause that? Like what coureak it?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Exposure? Because what the disagreement or the misunderstanding about. I'm
all for that, but if it's an exposure of how
you actually feel about me, which is not friend like,
it's like, oh, wait for this person to say this.
They ain't never been my friend and we're not just
having a misunderst standing or disagreement or difference of opinion.
This person is telling me how they actually feel about me.
(10:05):
And this ain't how you would feel about a friend.
And so this is good information to have. We ain't
never got to reconnect on nothing because you just said
something and let me know something. I had a person
that I thought was a friend. I remember when I
first got promoted to main anchor at the TV station
in Alabama, and of someone who had been affiliated with
that job. Trying not to put people on blasts, I'm like,
(10:27):
with someoney who had worked with me call to congratulate me,
and I was like, thank you, I appreciate it. And
she said yeah, because they were like, you weren't ready
for it, and I was at least she wanted us. And
I was like, wow, wait a minute. And that was
because it was like, one, why would someone feel comfortable
saying something like that about me to you? They know
(10:48):
we're friends. And two why would you feel like you
need to bring it back to me? And so it
was an exposure, right, and it was just like, Okay,
I know to put this person in another category, which
is not close.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I say this all the time, younits as a matter
of fact, that just put this on one of my
mic checks. Some of the people that hate you the
most are the ones that are the most close to you,
the ones that plaud you, that break bread with you,
that drink with you, that cheer you on and say
everything in front of your face, and they love you.
A lot of these people can't stand your ass and
(11:19):
they can't wait for you to fail, and they're waiting
for you to fall down. These are the ones be careful,
the ones that find out all this negative news, you know,
especially I've discovered so much over the last couple of
years with everything that I've gone through publicly, with the
breakup and all that type of stuff like that, of
these so called friends who cannot wait to come back
(11:40):
and tell me negative stuff, stuff that they see in online.
And I tell them all the time, Man, I don't
weed that stuff. I do not read blogs like that
where I know that they're just trying to crucify me
or trying to bring me down or trying to drag me.
I don't want that negative stuff, So why are you
bringing it to me? I just want to make sure
it was your attention?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Why why you got to do that? Don't bring it
to me.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And if somebody is talking about me behind my back
wall all so and so on, so and blah blah
blah blah. Say, my question is, what are you saying,
how are you defending me? What are you saying to
make sure that you know they got the information wrong?
Or why are you bringing it back to me in
the first place. But anyway, man, I'm so happy. Like
even the cast of Martin right, who.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Was Yeah, we were just watching them this past week.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, and the cast of Martin got back together. Like
it's good. We've been waiting for this Martin reunion. They
actually had a reunion a couple of years ago. I
think they had a special that was on HBO, believe
in one of those networks. Maybe it was on Netflix.
But back in the day, you know Martin in the nineties,
same time Chris Weber in The Fab Hour Out that
was one of the biggest shows on television. Then Tisha
Campbell and Mark Lawrence had an issue where there was
(12:49):
I believe she accused him of sexual harassment or whatnot,
and she actually left the show. They couldn't do scenes
together whatnot, So there was a long hubub I don't
think that last season and that season ended, but they
eventually were able to make amends for whatever went on
back then and come back together now. Like, I don't
know everything that happened there or whatever, but I know
(13:10):
there are people out there who may feel like if
you accuse somebody of doing something like that, maybe that's
a breaking point where you'll never be able to mend
that relationship. I'm happy that they were because maybe at
that point in time, maybe Martin, who had been gone
through a lot of stuff back then we've heard the
stories and the rumors about you know, substance abuse and
(13:31):
all that stuff like that, maybe he was a different
person there. And it's good that Tsha, if that was true,
was able to forgive him and they can move on
and make life better for themselves now. So we'll see
and for.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Sure, and especially the pressures in a work environment, you know,
I think in us learning more about the cast of
Martin and Martin Lawrence in particular, you know, he was
carrying this show with his name on it other outside factors.
But also remember Titian was married to Dwayne Martin, and
you have to that sometimes when you do have a partner,
sometimes somebody can cross the line for your partner, you
(14:05):
know what I'm saying. And so it could have been
a situation where because of their friendship, the nature of
their character's relationship, that somebody else could have been offended
like hey, wait a minute, you know, and so sometimes
you do things because of the timing of it, because
of the situation, not knowing the details of their particular situation,
but yeah, it was really great. It obviously made you
miss Tommy who passed Tommy Ford, who passed away some
(14:28):
years ago. It was fun to see I've been able
to do some stand up with Carl pain And what's
funny is Carl Paine is he's traveling doing stand up now,
but we know him as Cole for Martin, but also
Cockroach from The Cosby Show, and to see him reprise
the Cole persona on the Emmys, it really made me
appreciate how much of a character he was playing, right,
(14:49):
because a lot of times when you don't know actors,
you're like, oh, Carl Payne is Coal, But he definitely
is playing a character. And it was refreshing now that
I've seen another side of him as himself, to see, oh, wow,
he's actually a really great actor because Cole is an
idiot and Karl Payne isn't. Gina Tichi Campbell looked amazing.
Oh yeah, a winning look for her to Cheenah Arnold.
(15:11):
They all looked really great and it was fun to
see them kind of reprise those characters. Martin. I saw
a lot of people online kind of concerned, like it's
something going on with him, but he has had several
health challenges through the year, so it's still is really
exciting to see him come out there and be a
part of the cast and present that award.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, you know, and then hopefully they'll have that reunion
once again. Maybe we'll see like a reprobut maybe just
like some kind of little small mini series whatnot for
Martin cast where they are no Timmy Ford is not
there anymore or whatnot. But once again, good to see
the Fab five get back together. Good to see the
cast and Martin get back together. You can come back
together again. One more note on this, and this is
because this is done. There been that. We started the
(15:50):
conversation off talking about you know you doing god towards
fifty fifth birthday party, right and when I first got
out here and this is shout out What's crazy is
My first ever podcast ever did was with Guy Tori,
Guy Torri, Claudia Jordan, Steve Wilson. We had a podcast
called The Unstable Podcasts and we were like I think
(16:10):
we were before our time. It was funny, it was relevant,
we had a good time, We had good guests come
on and whatnot. And the reason that ended was because
a lot of us kind of split off. Claudia moved
to Dallas, Steve had other things, Guy was torn or whatever.
But one of the biggest things that happened on that
podcast is that Guy and I, when I first got
out here, we were like this, like that was pretty
(16:31):
much my best friend in LA And I want to
say this publicly is I think a lot of people
know that I need to apologize to him in a sense,
and we've apologized to one another since then. But during
that podcast, we actually got into a fight, an actual
fist fight. And I haven't had a fist fight since
I was investment. Well, I got in a fist fight
(16:53):
when I was in the military, but it's been over
thirty years and I'm a grown ass man out here
fighting somebody in the streets. And it was over something stupid.
It was something that you know, he was telling the
joke that maybe I was in the wrong space at
the time not to be able to receive it. My
daughter was right there and all that type of stuff, and
I was going through a lot of things at that time.
I got upset. Maybe I overreacted, maybe I don't know,
(17:15):
but he apologized, I apologize, and our relationship really has
not been the same ever since then, although over the
last couple of years we have been able to at
least be cordial around each other and make amends. So hopefully,
just like you see brothers like the Fab Five coming apart,
you know, splitting the part after having that bond and
(17:36):
coming back together. Because I love God and I think
he's super talented. I love that he's given women like
you an opportunity and people like you an opportunity like
he gave me an opportunity. I really hope that our
relationship would be able to men itself and that one day,
maybe it won't be the same as it used to be,
but maybe one day we can get back to being
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that that that that bond that we used to have,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
So shall you gonna make You're gonna make me cry?
I love you, I love goud known both y'all for
a very long time. I do you know y'all have
a fractured relationship. But when I saw you at his show,
and I know you guys are cordial and building, that's
exciting as a mutual friend to see and and thank
you for that, because I think, like I said, a
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lot of times it's hard for us to acknowledge where
we may have fallen short in a friendship or been
a part of a break And so I listen, I'm
here for it. I see it happening in real time.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So it's good. Yeah, let's get wet. Yeah, because we
know we're doing some things together, and I think we
all need each other. So I think sometimes life gets
in the way of in our egos. And like you mentioned,
I'm so I'm glad you brought that because sometimes men,
especially when we fall out, something big, something happens, whatever,
we got to let our egos go sometimes, man, because ego,
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I learned a long time ago, stands for edging God out.
And we need God our lives there, so you.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Know, and that's the thing. And you know, on a
on a global scale, how many men and women are
dead because of ego? How many people have been killed
because of somebody's ego. And it's one of those things
someone kind of helped me check my ego when they
were like, oh, if you are a believer, if you
believe in God, it's this concept that somebody can wrong
you so much that you won't ever deal with him again.
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Speak to him again or even kill him when you
wrong God every single day and He's like, it's cool,
start over tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yep, what are you doing? Are you believing God? You
gotta have a forgiving God, and we've forgiven ourselves now
a lot of it. I ain't putting it on God,
but God, God will tell you he got He holds
bud has.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
A very strong cutoff game. God is strongest mind.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Will you will grudge what he say? He's a capricorn whatever,
those the people that hold grudges all the time. His
birthday was just just happened. So yes, yeah, so he OWDs.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
A grudge and no, God is self admittedly a grudge holder. Man,
This is the difference between me and God. Guy hold
a grudge. I don't hold grudges. I hold funerals. You
are dead, you can't bury come.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
But here's the thing, So let's letten, let let's let's
let's find something here in common. Because they're they're like
we said, there are things that are forgivable and unforgivable.
There ain't a lot of things in this world that
are unforgivable. Like you said, if you're like God, you're
God like, you can forget you can't forget. You know
what I'm saying. You got to have access the same way,
but dead I mean that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Is yeah, Well, let me tell you when I say dad,
let me say, let me tell you when I say dad,
how I mean it. I mean it number one. But
it means you have zero percent access to me ever
again in the history of life.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
M m okay, so wow wow.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But like to me. To me, the reason why I
have had to make that distinction because people have told
me I hold grudges. To me, in order to hold
a grudge, it would have to be someone I'm holding
space for. Is somebody I would talk about, is somebody
I might share in. I don't you literally never exist again.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
See I'm the opposite. I can't. I can't hold grudges.
I just can't. I just can't hold it in my heart.
I just like I said, I won't give you access,
but I just cannot hold a grudge because I think
when you hold a grudge anytime you see that person,
like when you cut somebody off. That's why I say,
I'll give you an emotional vacation. When when you cut
that person off and you hold that grudge when you
see them, gets who is impacted. You're impacted because all
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of a sudden, you go into space that you don't
want to be in, you don't want to be around
this person, you want to leave, and all that type
of stuff like that. So when I see these people
that I have not given access to, I'll be cordial.
I'm won't cut you off. I'll give you, but I
won't give you the same access that you used to have.
But I will not cut you off a whole grudges
and make it seem like a man and better, because
(21:43):
once again, it's almost like you know, giving somebody poison,
and you know you taking poison and expecting somebody else
to die, and that's just not the way. So we'll
see what happens there. Meanwhile, we both have some in common.
Once again, we're both Alabama. We're both big Alabama fans.
You actually went to University Alabama. We both love Nick Saban.
Shout out to the gold finally retiring seven national championship
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six at Alabama. Job well done. I don't think anybody's
upset about that. But we got to see what Kaitlyn
de Boor does. Now. The Washington head coach is coming
in to fill those big shoes. The question I have
for you units would you feel comfortable filling the shoes
of a legend? Have you ever done it before?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Oh, fill the shoes of a legend. That's a really
great question. I don't know in what okay, So I'm
trying to think. I don't know that I've ever been
positioned to even try to do something like that. I think, Oh,
you know, when I was named the anchor, you know,
I replaced someone who had been on the air for
forty plus years. But I think I was a very
different type of person, So I don't think there were
that many comparisons between us. He was a white man
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who had been on the air for you know, forty
years in the market, and then I was this, you know, young,
gorgeous hot thing. I don't think we got too.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Many nothing has changed.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You're still young to get my mic all. But I
think for Washington's coach, oh, I'm sorry, Alabama's new coach.
So I can tell you I have not taken the
time learning about Kaylyn de Bor. I haven't given him
any energy yet. I want to talk about Nick Saban though,
and Nick Saban gets a lot of credit for obviously
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being a great coach and then and the championships. He
also had four Heisman winners, which Alabama had never had
a Heisman winner before Savan and now you have four
under him. But he also has an extremely high graduation
graduation rate with his players, and that's something that never
really gets spoken about. The quarterback for this past year,
Jalen Milro has already graduated and is coming back, and
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so I would like to at least make that note.
But what I want to say about coach Saban is
that he changed the culture not just of Alabama football,
but of college football in its entirety. And what's disappointing
is when people, you know a lot of people are saying,
oh no, the nil he didn't like that, couldn't compete.
He felt like, you know, it took his edge away.
You know, the man seventy two years old. How much
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more does he have to do? I think to try
to create a narrative that he was chased out of
college football is unfair and unrealistic. I think he has
a wife he wants to spend time with. I think
she's also having some health challenges. He bought property and
Mercedes dealerships in Florida. I think he wants to try
to enjoy some of his life. I think it's gonna
be really hard for him to do because he loved
what he was doing and did it so well and
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at such a high level. But I think at some
point you have to say, look, I have nothing left
to prove. Yep, let me go on to the next
chapter of my life.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I agree. I totally agree with that. I mean that,
you know, I think some people, coaches, players, a lot
of even people in the entertainment business, stick around too
long and then all of a sudden, it's like you
don't want to remember them for the last thing that
you saw them. You want to remember them in their glory.
Nick Saban still the greatest coach of all time in
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college football, without a doubt. I don't think there's anybody,
BEB Bryan or Eddie Robinson. He's tough, whatever, you know what,
He's the great, He's the goat. He did it during
this era. He did it during that era. Winn in
two different schools at LSU, won six at Alabama, and
like you said, he was still winning. This man went
to the College Football Playoffs this year. He was two
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games away from winning another national championship. So we don't
want to see.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Him with with a team that was very undisciplined and young,
like yep, this wasn't even like a great Bama team, not.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
At all because he but they were well coached. And
he's always losing great assistance who go on to become
good head coaches or whatever, transfer portal, everything he's had
to deal with. He's always really is a good recruiter
and it's Alabama, right, So, like we love Alabama obviously,
but when you got other options out there, like usc Miami,
you can go out to Oregon one of those great
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facilities out there or whatever. Ain't a lot of people
that want to go to Tuscaloos. I'm just saying, I
love Alabama, don't give me.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And it's a hard place. It's a hard place to be.
Even before coach Saban, you know, we went through quite
a few coaches in quick succession for a while, you know.
So he stayed there for about seventeen years. That was
unheard of, right, And so I think the war is
gonna have a good time because he's coming in as
a good head coach. He's coming in with a great record,
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and I think Alabama's fans, even though people consider us
to be pretty obnoxious and elitists. Whatever, Yeah, I'm like whatever,
time I think we're sophisticated enough to roll tide, we're
sophisticated enough to understand that all things must change. And
this is a totally new person, totally new regime, and
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we're gonna be Bama supporters regardless. Now our in state rival,
and I used that term loosely, Auburn they actually roll
the trees at too much corner, which is what they
generally do at big victories and when they win games.
And so when Saban's announcements of retirement came out, it
was like ding dong, the witch is dead. And it's like,
just because Saban is leaving does not mean you are
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going to start winning, doesn't, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I mean since Ben Bryant, Uh, I mean Barb Bryant,
the coach that won a championship before him, right after
Jims Jamms Stalins won a championship. Now, we went through
some bad you know, the Bowls and all those, and.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, we always point out my senior year at Alabama
we lost every home game, including homecoming under Mike de Boat.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yes, yeah, Mike, I mean it was some terrible coaches
in between Jims Dallings and Nick Saban. So but the
thing is, it's like eventually get it right, Kayln. The
Board is a really good coach coming from Washington. He
was one went away from They could have played each other.
If if if Alabama would have been Michigan, he would
have been playing Washington and Kaylen the Board International Championship Game,
who knows what would happen. There will not great quarterback play.
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He's a good offensive mine or whatever. Alabama fans are
excited about him for right now, but I will sight.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Now, but I will say and they say Saving hand
picked him, had a lot to do a successor, and
I think that's why a lot of fans are like, Okay,
well accept it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And the good thing about him is that since Saving
did that gave him the endorsement, and the Board said
he will always have an open door for Nick Saban
to come back anytime he wants to. He's already doing
the right things. But like you said, he's a different
coach than Nick Saban. Nick Saban's a little bit of
old school. The boar kind of is in this whole
the nil, the transfer portal and all he used the
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transfer porter well when he was at Washington getting Michael
Pennix to come from Indiana. So I think he'll do
well there because he's not going to try to be
Nick Saban. And like you said, when you replace that
guy who was forty years in the business in Alabama,
white dude or whatever, you didn't come in and try
and replace him. You came in to be you, the
best version of you. And for the people that will
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accept that, they'll accept that in some of the more
because you're not that forty year old, the forty year
veteran white guy. So you're not gonna win those guys.
If you're not gonna win those people over, whatever, all
you can do is come in be the best version
of you and win some new fans over that probably
wasn't a fan of the forty year old white girl
so forty you know.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And it's also just as a talent in this business
as a coach, anybody who has a skill set, you
can't be replaced. You know, someone can take the job,
but it's not a replacement. And just because we're talking
about Alabama and coaching, I would like to give a
personal shout out to the Houston Texans coach by Jamik o'
ryan and Ryans is also from our hometown, Avestmer Our
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High school. Absolutely also went to Alabama, And I used
to work for Demico for many years as the executive
director of his foundation, and so I just want to
shout him out. I love seeing all the positive press about,
you know, this first year head coach making it to
the playoffs. But you know, not for nothing, a black
coach with a black quarterback, a rookie quarterback, a rookie coach.
So let's go.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And I'm techn yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm definitely room for
the Houston Texans and Deniko Ryan and CJ. Stroud out there.
How about Bessemer? Man, how about us me? I mean,
like outside, look at not just Bestmer, not just Justla there.
Jameis Winston's from Bessemer, Bo Jackson's from best Best. I'm
from Bessemer, You're from Investment, Carrie Rhoades, de Miko Ryans.
(30:03):
You know. But the thing is a lot of those
people did sports. Look at what we're doing. We're we
kind of came through sports or whatever, but we're doing
something making a name for ourselves outside. That's what need
to start naming some streets after us. I'm just saying
they need to start honoring us.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Mike. I have I have been the Grand Marshal of
the best Christmas Parade.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I ain't get nothing. They ain't give me no key
to no city. They have been the Grand Marshals as
much as I shout out best, but man, they ain't
come on man, the best of my hall of feen. Look,
I ain't got nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I don't wait. I want to remind you you kind
of you kind of talked trash about them, the people
that's voting on that you kind of talk trash about
them at the beginning of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I know I didn't. I know I did not talk
to you. So I want to so let me clarify.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I just said the mentality, you ain't got no key
to the city.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I ain't got no key to this good the mayor.
I'm just saying, there's a there's a mentality, there's an
even understanding, there's.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
A mentality invitation to be grandmar There's.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
A mentality throughout there. But see what I plan on
doing this.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know what I think it is. Let me tell
you this. I think it is. I don't think that
mentality is unique to bestmer. I think it's a very
common perception for people who leave home. I think anybody
who leaves their hometown comes back and feels probably the
very same thing. It depends on the hometo when you
have left and you've gotten some exposure and you've kind
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of seen it, everybody's everybody's doing what they're doing on
whatever level. So I think sometimes that's just a perception
when anybody goes back to their hometown trying to save it.
I'm trying to say, I'm trying to save your invitation.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I only need saving in this one because what I'm
saying is what I want is I want us to
always thrive to do better everywhere, no matter what. And
it's not, like you said, subjective. But it's not unique.
It's to unite. It's not unique to bestment, it's unique
to every it's everywhere. Like you said, you.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Can go back saying I'm saying everybody who goes back
to their hometown probably feels that. I don't think it's
a unique that people investment are that way. I think
when you go back to your hometown, you don't see
much has changed. You see people doing this same things.
But I have come to respect that that is a projection, right,
because everybody doesn't want the same things or have the
same idea of what they would want, right, And so
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I've learned. I've had to learn, even whether they were
friends or families, I would be projecting what I thought
they should be doing or what I thought they should want,
and that ain't none of my business, you know. And
so I learned to just let people be where they are.
I want people to let me be where I am,
and it just all coexists.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And I respect you for that. I respect that. I'm
just saying my whole mentality is I could be wrong.
I mean I feel like I've just probably Yeah, I
I could be. But here's what I want to do.
I haven't forgotten where I came from. And what I
want to do is I want to go back. My
whole lot in life is to one day build a
foundation so that I can buy the block out where
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I used to live. I want to buy my old
block on twenty one eleven Berkeley Avenue in South Vestmer.
I want to buy that whole block, and I want
to build a learning center right there. And I don't
want to put up a basketball courts. I don't want
to do any of that stuff when it comes to sports,
of course that's part of it or whatever. But I
want to build a learning center where I can teach
them computer all those things I'm talking about mental health.
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There are so many things that because you have come
out and you've been exposed to other things that you
want to take back and you want to teach to
help us to become better people. No matter where you are.
That's the best in Alabama. That could be in Bronx,
New York. That could be in Compton, California, that could
be anywhere you are. If you leave somewhere and you're
in exposed to something that you feel like can help
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your people become better people so that we can get
out of some so called rut to some people, then
you should do that best. We see the statistics all
the time. Right now, Bestmer, Alabama, per capital, has the
highest crime rate in the nation. It is called the
most dangerous city in the nation. I want to do
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whatever I can to change the mentality of that so
that people don't feel like they need to commit any crimes.
So we can go back there and give them hope
and that is what I'm talking about when I go back.
So it's not like I'm afraid to go back or
I dislike the people. I love my people investment. I
shot out bestment everywhere I go, and I'm going to
use my platforms nationally wherever I am to represent bestment,
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not because I can't. I came from the Bronx, New York.
I was born in Bronx, New York, and I'll always
represent New York. Don't get me wrong, but I spent
my childhood, my high school years down in best from
in Alabama, and it means a lot to me. So
I want to go back and help out with that
mentality to make us better people no matter where you are.
I don't care if I could be a scholar, I
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could be a mensa right and you could be very smart.
I want to bring smart people up to becoming a genius.
That's why we are always trying to uplift our people
no matter where we are. So when I say mentality,
we know that there is a mentality there that some
people just feel like there is no hope because they
haven't seen anything else. So I want to expose them
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to that so that they can have that hope so
that we can become better people overall throughout the city
of Bessemer. That's just what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'll let you know what says about that.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Okay, Well, well I'm okay, uh, Tony, So I'm saying
things Tony Dungee saying things when it comes to Taylor Swift.
All right, Taylor Swift obviously is with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Now, I don't think we've talked about Taylor Swift since
our very first episode, right, well.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't think so, because when when they started with
Travis Kelce and that whole relationship began, we was wondering
how long it's gonna be ling. They seemed like they're
still strong. She came into some zero temperatures to come
out there and support them, doing the swag surf for
whatever you call that. I don't know if that was
a swag surf, but she was trying. They did this
give them eighth effort. They were trying. But Tony Dungee,
(35:45):
who was the former Indianapolis said the coach Hall of
Famer who's now an NBC broadcaster, said that it was
He said, disingchant NFL fans as a distraction and obviously
the Swift East came for him, and it's like they
always do, is Taylor Swift? Do you think is it
a distraction or is it something that is good for
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the game of the NFL because it's exposing other people
who would not watch the NFL to the game itself.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So I think the NFL thinks it's great because the
NFL is reaping the benefits of having that many more
people tune in, that many more people buy jerseys, that
many people care about the NFL. So the NFL would say, yes,
this is great. I think the people that are conflicted
or challenged by it are probably people who are NFL fans,
probably particularly Kansas City Chiefs fans, because even among those fans,
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some are excited that they're getting all this attention and
they love Travis Kelsey before Taylor Swift came into the picture.
And then some of those same fans are like, Hey,
this is a football team. Why do y'all keep tell
my Taylor Swift. So I think this is one of
those double edged swords that it's a gift and a curse,
and depending on which side you want to believe in. Personally,
I still think it's a manufactured relationship. I still don't
believe that it's real, but don't know about it care
(37:00):
what I think. But I think Travis kelce I think
Travis Kelcey. I think the NFL and I think Taylor
Swift are all happy, and I think the Kansas City
Chiefs are happy. The fans. I think that's who's divided
on the concepts of I do think it's weird how
much they show her in the stands. I do think
(37:20):
it's kind of low lying fruit at this point. I
think it's I think once you show her, once we're good,
you know. I think I think it's an overexposure in
that context, yes, for sure, And I think that's how
you do turn people against it and create a negative
vibe to it, because you it's overdone, it's oversaturated, it's overexposed.
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But at the end of the day, the Kansas City
Chiefs are focused on the more important business of football,
and as long as they're winning, I don't think it'll
be that big of a deal. But once they lose,
then of course people are going to say the distraction
of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yep, exactly. This is the same thing they did with
Jessica Simpson, Tony Romo. Back in the day, Tony Romo
charged struggling, and they started blaming always. Yeah, I'm you know,
I'm not saying it's right, because it's not right. Here's
what Tony actually said. That's the thing that ever, I agree,
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that's that man. You don't let that man be in
his relationship. Ain't nobody know. The thing is, I'm just
happy that people didn't blame Russell Wilson's issues on Sierra.
I'm just happy that didn't come down because that could
have easily been the case as well. But they actually did.
They did in Seattle. They did, they did. They actually said,
like it became to Hollywood and all that type of
stuff like that. But that's that's neither he said. There's
(38:38):
so much on the outside coming in entertainment value, uh,
and different things taken away from what really happens on
the field. Sports is entertainment, and so I love and
respect Tony Dungee. But sports is a former entertainment and
if you can cross the two over, then it's a
win win for both sides, for the entertainment, for the
NFL side, for sports side. Period. You go to a
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Lakers game where they show. They show all the Hollywood
stars sitting in front row Jack. Nobody talks about how
many cutaways you know, Jack gets, you know, sitting at
Laker games whatnot. Nobody talks about that, Chris Rock, Spike
Lee and MSG whatnot. It's all part of the game. Whatnot? Now,
once again, do they show too many cutaways of Taylor
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Swift during the game. That's not Taylor's fault? Why is
that on her? So? I agree with you, it shouldn't
be the woman's fault because the network chooses to show
a Taylor Swift cutaway anytime Travis Kelsey gets a three
time three.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Hous goes back to the original argument of Travis Kelce
was a superstar with many endorsements before the Taylor Swift
came into his life. Yes, it has gone up exponentially.
She rolls the profile of someone who already had a
high profile. But not to debate that again. But this
is what I do want to say about the NFL
(39:55):
in particular. They are very uncreative. They are very reactive
in their marketing. In that let's use this year as
an example, the whole Tailor Swift thing. They've really leaned
into the tailor swift thing the league has also when
they use Kim Kardashian to make the announcement of Usher
(40:17):
being the halftime entertainment who was very reactionary and following
the trends and not setting the trends. And the biggest thing,
the biggest, biggest thing that most people don't even really
think about or understand. The only reason the NFL has
a super Bowl halftime show, which is one of the
elite performances for an entertainer in the world, is because
(40:38):
of In Living Color. Because they didn't used to do
anything at halftime and Kenyan, Ivory Wyans and In Living
Color had a special super Bowl halftime show that took
all the viewers from the Super Bowl to watch that
special edition of In Living Color And there has been
a halftime super Bowl show ever since. And most people
don't realize that's the only reason you have this halftime
(40:58):
super Bowl show. It's because of Kenans. I just want
to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
You know what's crazy is you shout out to Keenan,
Ivry Wins and all the black Uh, let me shut
up because I work for Fox right now.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
But this is you know, NFL historically is not leaving
the charge in marketing. They are very reactionary and bandwagon
ish in how they market themselves.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I agree. I was just going to give props to
all the black programming that was on Fox a long
time ago that built the network up to be able
to get the NFL. So that's part of it, and
we see that, we see that with TV now. So
I'm just letting you know that. You know, that's another
done there been that I don't even know who owns
to who owns Wow? Okay, there you go, there you go.
(41:45):
Let me shut up because I still work with Fox.
I don't want to keep.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Just owns who else?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Okay, well we need we need? Can we cut this
as a matter of fa Yeah, no, I want to
make I want to make a quick about the marketing thing.
I think the NFL is geniuses. I mean, because we're
talking about it right now, right, so we're also talking
about their product. So anytime you can get people talking,
no matter what, even if it's controversial, even if you
(42:14):
don't like it, people are talking about it. And whether
they say, any publicity is good publicity, whether it's good
or bad.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I don't believe that as a purposist, I don't believe that, but.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
We're talking about that. We are talking about it, and
once again, like you said, with Taylor Swift, that whole
fan base coming over. There may be thousands of not millions,
not millions, but tens of thousands of people who are
watching just to get a cut see a cutaway of
Tailor Swift that will never watch City Chiefs million. Yeah,
it depends on if it's if it's a playoff game, yeah,
because they get millions of fans, But I don't think
(42:43):
it's gonna be millions more watching to see a Tailor
Swift cutaway. But if it's you know, if it's a
game that gets four or five million dollars on a week,
four or five million views on a weekly basis, yeah,
maybe tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands just to
see a Tailor Swift cut away just to see if
she's at the game. So I do believe that's helping
what not. I don't know about the whole Travis Kelcey
and all that type of stuff like that. You know,
(43:04):
as far as him gaining me, his.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Jerseys are selling for a lot more money. More of
his jerseys are selling. I mean, you can quantify the
difference in his marketability and his actual valuation since he
has been attached to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, I mean that's that's short. Look, hey, shout out
to Taylor Swift. I mean, she's one of the most
popular people in the United States or in the world.
So anybody that's attached to it, you could be her
best friend. You can just become her best friend right now,
and your your Instagram follows to go up to tens
of millions of people. That's just the way the world works.
So that's good. Mentioned the jackets, cayl you sec is
(43:42):
his wife made some jackets. I believe the Taylor Swift
and all those people whatever. That's really so. So every
time Taylor Swift posts something with those jackets whatever, then
her marketing goes up big. So anybody's associated.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
With it's very The thing is Taylor Swift. Okay. I
know that if I say this, the Swifties might come
from me, But I don't think the Swifties are listening
to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
You'll find it. They will, But I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Go ahead and say this. I'm gonna go ahead and
say this. I think Taylor Swift is don't come back
in the frame, don't leave me out here by myself.
I'm gonna say this because when you brought up the jackets,
you brought up the jackets and the and then you have,
you know, the secret handshakes with all these new best friends.
(44:29):
It's it's very high schoolish to me, the engagement of
it in the in the in the suite, and I
feel like a lot of times Taylor, who is a
thirty plus your old woman, feels like she cosplays a
high school nerd. I feel like her persona is the
girl that didn't get picked, the girl that didn't get
(44:50):
asked to the dance. And I'm like, she is literally
the most popular woman on the planet. So it's just
a little weird that the persona is, you know, she's
just this teenage, you know, bullied kid. So that's not
nothing bad about Taylor.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Okay, that wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
That was just it's just interesting how she's kind of
put out there and I'm like, she's like a thirty
three year old woman.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Okay, that's all, let's move on. I had to take
my head. I've had the sweet's come after me before
one time, so I know them little white girls.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Going I'm saying, listen, I can't take anyway, anything away
from anyone who's doing something at a high level, and
she's doing it at the highest level that it's ever
been done. There is nothing for me to say. I'm
just making the observation of how she is presented, but
that's not actually who she is. That's it. That's it,
all right, that's a good time.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
It's a good time to get this woman.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
She's just a grown up woman, that's all.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's a good time to get to stop that what
you got this week?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yes, okay, so my that is It might be an
LA thing, but I think it's at every place thing
because I've experienced it on different levels. I'm just going
to talk about it. From last week, we mentioned Guy
Tori's birthday show and a party. In addition to the
people that were on the show that I already mentioned,
there are also several comedians in the buildings and names
(46:19):
that you know, Gary Payton or Cory Hokum or DC
young Fly. A lot of people came out to show
their support. This is what I want people to stop doing.
There is a weird vibration that people have when they
have deemed that someone is important and maybe I don't
know what it is. I don't know if you know
what it is. But there's this energy people have when
(46:41):
they're trying to jockey for position to be next to somebody,
or to be near somebody, or to say they talk
to this person, or to say they got a picture
with this person. It's a weird vibration. It's very off
putting to me. And I don't know if you noticed,
but most people will notice. If I'm somewhere, I'm usually
kind of sitting off to the side or kind of
falling back because the energy is palpable that it's a
(47:02):
thirst that is going on. Yep, that's weird. I don't
like it. Stop that everybody is worthy and deserving of
respect and admiration on some level. So I don't like
when you know I told you about the Walgreens list,
it probably goes back to that. For me. I don't
like when certain people are treated I'm not even saying
better or special, because sometimes that might be the situation.
(47:24):
I was performing that night, so it was nice. I
had a dressing room, it was nice, accommodations were made
for me to perform. But at the same time, we're
all just here we're all just trying. Everybody's cool, everybody's easy.
Stop jocking, particularly, let me say men, men stop jocking
for positioning with other men. I also used to see
(47:44):
this when I was a publicist for athletes. I can't
tell you how many times I have been elbow pushed
or stepped on by a man to get next to
a man that he has deemed important. Not that.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, thirsty, thirsty jocking, thirsty, enamored with the fame like that,
enamored with it.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Stop that, my stoff. That has something to do with
what we're doing right now. Obviously, I just started stand
up for you know, last two months, and I'm new
to the thing whatnot. And I'm already getting to be
on a couple of venues that a lot of people
who've been out here for a long time want to
right And I feel for them. I know they've been
putting into work or whatever. They've been in the clubs,
(48:24):
they've been out here for ten years. And I've already
done the comedy store, I've done the improv, I've done
the ice house out here I'm talking about. These are
some big venues. I did a big show in Inglewood
with some big comedians the last month as well. But
stop hating on other people's favor you know what I mean.
I am a person that I have put in my
work on stage as far as like you know, corporate events,
(48:48):
being on television or whatever. There are a lot of
other comics that are There are a lot of comics
that really support me, that really come and say, hey, man,
what happened that you're doing this? And you have need tips?
You can call me anytime. But I also feel theirs
and I've heard that there are some comics out here
that hated that I'm getting these opportunities, and they're telling
(49:08):
their other friends, like Od's Mike doing this. He just started.
The only reason he's getting this is because blah blah
blah this and all that type of like, stop hating
on other people's favor, man. I believe me. I would
take the improv I would take the comedy store. That's
good because it's offered to me. But I also take
doing my comedy on the stage in front of three
people at a Chinese restaurant. I'm willing to put in
(49:30):
my work. It's not like I want to be elevated
to the top We do this all the time. Believe me,
even in my business as a host who's done this
for years and pretty good at it. I see people
who come in as an actor. They could be a
D list actor in that right now, and they take opportunities.
I shouldn't say take opportunities. They get opportunities and they're
not hosts. But I can't hate on that because what
(49:53):
was meant for them is meant for them. Actors, rappers, whatnot.
Used to get mad when rappers came and took jobs whatever.
Now you see some of the best actors in the
world are rappters, Queen lad For, Will Smith or whatever whatnot.
So please stop hating on people who get favor just
because you don't have your opportunity right now. Focus on
(50:15):
what you need to be doing and what's going to
come for you, and stop hating on other people who
are getting these opportunities right now. I know it's tough
because you put in your work whatever. But if you
take that on this off of putting all that hate
into them, and focus and put that energy in what
needs to happen for you, I guarantee you you'll get
to where you want to go. A lot sooner, So
stop that.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Ooh, I will say, I know when we started, you
said I might be feeling you on your stop that.
I'm less than a year in Los Angeles and I've
had a really great time and I've gotten some really
great opportunities, and I also receive that energy of I
told my mom one time, whether it was on stage
(50:57):
or you know, great opportunities I've gotten at TMZ in
a shorter at a time, I said, there's a lot
of who is this bitch energy that radiates around me
and it's not any of my business, and it's a
it's a real vibration. You know, I see it. And
this is what I say to people when they say, well,
how did you get this or how'd you? I say,
you know, I realize I'm having a unique experience, and
(51:18):
so I'm just looking to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
You're not going what I eat don't make you shit, Exactly.
That's really the root of it.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Are you going to if somebody were to offer you
once once again? You just came out here and somebody, uh,
the biggest director in Hollywood comes up and says, I
want to make you the lead in my next movie,
and it's going to be a one hundred million dollar budget.
What are you gonna do? Say no, I'm not ready.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
There's been so many people here here.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Come on, man, like, come on, let's just like people.
Sometimes that's what favor is. Sometimes you may be able
to walk through doors that you may not feel like
you would ever been able to walk through, you're not
prepared for, or you're not qualified for. That is what
God's favorite is. So believe it or not, man, you're
going to be able to get opportunities that you're not
you don't feel like you're prepared for or qualify for.
(52:02):
But you got to take the focus off of looking
at what other people.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Would get exactly, man, to look at what anybody else
is doing.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Think about this units as a sportscaster right now, you
think I look at all the athletes who are coming
in right now, who are becoming sportscasters. They're not journalists. Whatever.
I'm not gonna get mad at them. I'm not gonna
be grudge them because they're getting the opportunities that somebody
else wanted to give them. I'm not gonna shit on them.
I'm not going to say, hey, this person, now as
long as the person is not coming in and saying, hey,
(52:32):
you shouldn't. I know UNITS has been out here for
ten years, but hey man, I'm on television and I
got so many followers or whatever and all that type
of stuff like that. Uh, why would I come If
I came up to that person who was giving an
opportunity and say you shouldn't put you and it's on
for me to get on, then I can understand that.
But otherwise, if somebody wants to give me an opportunity
because I'm trying to become more of a multi hyphen
(52:54):
and do other things in this in this in this business, man,
we should just applaud each other and root each other
one because you never know. You become my friend, I
become your friend. If I go somewhere, maybe I can
carry you with me and give you the opportunity that
you never got before.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
So that's true, right, And I think as long as
you focus on your own journey, you're gonna be okay.
You know, I was thinking we were talking about the Emmys.
You know, this is my first Emmy season. I guess
being out here, I wasn't invited, I wasn't nominated, I
wasn't involved. But I was excited at how many people
I know that won Emmys or were nominated for Emmy's,
were wrote on the Emmys or you know, and I'm like, wow,
(53:28):
I can't say that that I would have known these
people last year, or that I would have been down
the street. And so that's exciting to me to be
close to people who are getting great opportunities. I don't
begredge it in anyway, but you know, when I came
from being a stand up comedian to doing the news,
you know, I was promoted over people who had been
reporters there for twelve thirteen years, and it was like,
(53:51):
who is this person who has never done TV before
being main anchor? And so I knew why I was
getting the vibe. I understood why I was received even
the energy. But if you just think about it, if
you're looking at someone that you feel has surpassed you
and an opportunity, you have to know it's not them
because you was already there. It just wasn't your situation.
So don't ever give somebody else so much power over
(54:13):
you and live rent free in your head just because
that wasn't your time. And sometimes you miss your time
because you're looking at somebody else's time. Stay focused on
your own road and ride that thing out.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Absolutely, keep doing what you're doing too. I said that
one atout that I am. I'm very proud of your units.
Keep on doing what you're doing. We'll be back next week.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I'm proud of you too.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Thank you to all the fans. Once again, you and
just not took our first ever publicity photo with a
fan that it's wonderful. Keep on coming up to us
then letting us know, give us that feedback, get us
up in our Twitter accounts and our Instagram. Let us
know what you want to see on the show. We're
going to start incorporating some guests in the show as well.
Subscribe to the podcast on iHeart or wherever you can
find your podcast and go to the done there been
(54:57):
that YouTube page and subscribe as well, so that you
can see Units's beautiful face. You don't want to see mine,
but you want to hear this melodious voice all the time.
There you go, yeah, there is. That's that's what I
bring to the table. Thank you, Eunis, great job as always.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Thank you Mike. I'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
See you next week. Peace y'all.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
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