February 13, 2024 • 57 mins
Eunice Elliott and Mike Hill react to Super Bowl LVIII, question whether Pat Mahomes is the GOAT, and break down Usher’s halftime performance. Finally, the two discuss Beyoncé dropping TWO new singles during the game, did she overshadow Usher?
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
And we're back for another edition of a Done There
Been that. I am Eunice Elliott, joined by the effervescent
Mike Hill.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I had to look that word up.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I know, I thought I would give you your vocabulary
word of the day.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Effves that was?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That was? That was good? Hey, what's up? Units how
you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm wonderful? How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
That feels like I'm alive and well, like I'm like
moisturized or something like that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Efferves just sounds like it's like wet.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Like it's like, okay, well, no, your moisturize is different
than we But yeah, taking this positive and move on
because see that's what I'm saying. You can't tell the
man a word. And that next thing he told me, Yeah,
I like that. I sound wet.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I take it from you know, you know it's this
ain't that kind of podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm almost afraid to ask you where have you been
and what have you done?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
But uh, I.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Ain't been there a little bit of a drought. When
it's coming to that, keep it here, Michael.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Hold on, let me bring it back down, Let me
bring it back down. Done there. This is where I
am right now? Where have I been? I hosted at
the end problem last night, which was a thrill to
be no fun Yeah yeah, hosted My Boy Gumbo. I'll
know if you no Gumbo, but give me an opportunity
to go up there and co host with them with
some great comedians.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Had a good time and enjoying it.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I got like three or four shows this week coming up,
including one with you, so looking forward to that on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, same same working you know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I still have not been discovered yet, so now I'm
on the clock. I had claimed at the beginning of
February I was getting discovered this month, and each day
that passes in February, I'm like somebody needs to get
on it. So still working on getting discovered. And by discovered,
I mean by somebody other than Willes Fargo.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
They don't own.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They stay in my inbox every day, Like, hey girl.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
When can we expect payment? We have just still tell
you you not made you a monthly think that's what we've.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Discovered, discovered, discovered, I made it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So I am looking forward to getting discovered by somebody else,
but just more shows. Yeah, we have a day show
coming up on this Saturday in Town. I also have
a show in Santa Barbara coming up. So just a
lot of comedy. Comedy has been fun, and comedy is
probably one thing that keeps me excited most of the
time because you can go and make people.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I will thank you. Mike LifeWise.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let me tell you, I've only seen you once or twice,
but I've been impressed. I know you always talk about
just starting out or whatever, but I think if you
are a natural born entertainer or presenter, comedy is kind
of another step in the storytelling arena.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know, it's all comes down to storytelling.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Here's the thing. You have been discovered. You just don't
know you've been discovered yet. There are people that are
talking about you in places that you don't even know about,
that are going to make a difference in your life
in the years to come. Just wait and see it's
they're they're already they've discovered you. They just haven't done
anything with you. So it's coming. You are an immensely
talented person. I'm telling you, Ma, I'm gonna one man
would look back and five six years from now, I'm saying, hey,
(03:04):
you know what, we used to do a podcast together,
and I'm like, be so proud.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hopefully I'm somewhere big too. But hopefully you know we're.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Saying we used to do this podcast, because maybe we'll
still be doing the podcast maybe if I don't know,
if the Inflection Network be able to pay you by.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Then you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Price going up, prices, prices going up.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Definitely. Sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I spent some time with Jay Harris over the you
know Jay Harris from ESPN. Yeah, he was in town
with his wife and my best friend, all three of them.
We had a house full of people in here. We
had a wonderful time.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Man. So it's always good to be around your friends
and family as well.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
What were you going to say, so, No, I was
gonna say, you know, the whole discovery piece.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think that's the story for everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's like, you know, you don't see the seed under
the ground, and sometimes you can kind of be messing
up the process because you keep digging it up, trying
to check on it, like, well, wait a minute, is
it germinating?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Is it growing? Is it that you know, just.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Leaving it alone plant to see nurture it water, going
about your business.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But if it could be this week, But if it
could be this week.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You know, what. You don't want them to dig it
up before time either. If it ain't right, you don't
want it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I just need the time to be this week's.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Time to be this week, and you want it to
be by the right people, because you know, I always say,
and I've learned, and I've been in this business for
twenty nine years and I've had to learn patience. So
we're talking about done there being that patience is key
because there have been opportunities that I've been presented with
that I'm happy that I did not get or I
turned down because it would have ruined my career instead
of upholding or enhancing my career. So sometimes man with
(04:35):
glitters ain't always gold. So just because somebody gives you
an opportunity, you think it's an opportunity of lifetime, you
feel it and your gut and if your gut is
telling you that this is not right for you at
this particular time, always listen to your gut. I'm telling you,
all right.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I like how you keep going so philosophical. I agree
with everything you're saying. And anything happen this week, okay,
all that, I'm gonna be patient for this week with
the patient I'm patient this week. It's you know, we
just get started. You got to the end of the week. Okay,
you're the first.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Lord of God. Mix it quickly. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Now, you said you're had a house full of people,
but that's because you were having a Are we allowed to
say super Bowl party without having to pay for it?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
We have to say the Big Game party.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I had a big Game party down and you know,
my friends didn't show up. My friends were Jay was
on the yacht somewhere. My friend was somewhere. He went
back to Las Vegas with his girl or whatnot, so
they were gone by then. But I had a big
Super Bowl party. And it was a coordination once again,
because Kansas City Chiefs officially a dynasty. Patrick Mahomes his
third time winning Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
The Chiefs did it. And here's the thing about the units.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You know, we don't talk much about the games on
this podcast, but I got to talk about Patrick Mahomes
because as soon as I saw San Francisco kicked that
field goal in overtime and they gave Patrick Mahomes that
opportunity to win the game on their possession, I knew
it was over.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because Patrick, you don't what just that guy?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know, I feel that in every overtime when somebody
kicks the field goal on that first possession, I don't
care who the quarterback is. I know, oh well, they
know they got to get a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Want to beat me.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think anytime a Super Bowl goes to overtime, you know,
I don't know if I have PTSD from being with
the Titans in the Super Bowl. It's like I didn't
have I didn't have a dog in this particular fight.
So my emotions, but just as a sports fan, you know,
you can't help but feel the excitement for a potentially
winning team the devastation of a potentially losing team. So
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overtime it's always great dramatics and theatrics.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
But also it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'm a person that I would rather even if it's
my team, I would prefer a blowout.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Emotionally, I would.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Rather us know we gonna lose by forty five to
nothing but the second quarter, than to lose by missfield
goal in overtime. Like or I would just I beat
my team, beat my team, beat us up, embarrass us,
and I will feel better about the Emotionally now, I.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Still wanna win. I still want to feel like I
got a chance.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But just whoop us, I totally agree. I like my
team is out of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I'm so like, I'm so happy sometimes when my team
doesn't even make the playoffs, because I know that particular
team they weren't good enough to actually win it all.
But sometimes they get into the playoffs and you think
maybe there's a chance, and then your emotions and your
anxiety starts getting up, and then your anticipation starts perking, lating.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
A little bit more than it should be. You know,
I got PTSD from you know, just you know, we're
talking about done that been that.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
You know, my dad was always saying my real dad
said he was gonna come pick me up on the
stoop on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
He always got to go somewhere with this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I knew where the story was going as soon as
you say it, my real dad, this is done. This
was going to be an abandonment issue story. As soon
as that I knew I got a real dad. I
have a real dad too, and I knew were keeping
it light. We're keeping it light, okay. When we started
my real dads, I know I already know where it's going.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But I'm working through my traumas. That's what I'm doing.
It's just like this.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And as recommend anticipation and you feel like, Okay, this
might be the year, and then they disappoint you because
they don't show up when they're supposed to and they
said it, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
See, And that's what I'm saying. That's why I knew it, y'all.
I'll be trying to get him to pull it back
like Mike.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Saw literally, if you're watching it on YouTube, y'all can
see the DOUN there ben that screen behind the Mike.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I can see the WRIT team on the wall from here.
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Here's the thing about that. I will say your team
and my team did it to me this year. University
of Alabama. From very early on, they were not a
disciplined team. They were making really bad pens all season,
and so I didn't have a lot invested in them emotionally.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
This year, I want them to win every game.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm still a fan, but I wasn't emotionally invested in them,
and I remember when they made it to the SEC
Championship game.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I need even try to watch the game. I was
working that day.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I didn't even try to get it off because I
didn't want to see the embarrassment. And as I can
checking the score of the game, and Alabama was leading
the majority of the game, I kept saying, Okay, I'm
getting frustrated, just go ahead and beat us.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So we can move on.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And by this time they beat Georgia and then dated
to the point I was like, I tried not to
get involved here, and.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Then we know how that ended. So I want to
enjoy the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And that's what I'm talking about, the anticipator of getting
so close and then just having your emotions just dissolved
at then imagine being an Atlanta Falcons fan having a
twenty five point lead in the Super Bowl against New
England Patriots and losing that lead in the second half.
I'm talking about they have never gotten past that. So
imagine being San Francisco. In the last four years, you've
gone to two Super Bowls, lost to the same team
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and you and both of those you blew ten point leads.
So being a fan is a hard, hard role to
crawl sometimes, especially if your team disappoints you. It's good
to get there, it's good to say you've gotten to
the super Bowl, you got into the pinnacle. But if
you don't win it all, at the end of the day,
when that confetti comes down, you just want to kick everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's hard.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
It's hard people destroying flat screen televisions because their team lost.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Wonderful and that's not okay. And that's not okay, guys.
Let's let's let's just go ahead and say that's not okay.
But you know what's interesting. And I worked for the
Tennessee Titans when we made it to the super Bowl,
but the week or the two weeks before for the
AMC Championship game was the Music City Miracle, you know.
And so again that team was not We lost. I
remember we lost every preseason game. It was just our
first year being the Titans after making the move up
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to the Tennessee Order, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So everything was new.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It was a new stadium, new uniforms, new logo, and
so there was not a lot expected of this team.
But as the season went on, the Music City Miracle
making it to the AMC Championship Game, then going to
the super Bowl to lose by that one yard that
that spatsd And so what I remember when I'm watching
the super Bowl is going overtime. Of course I have
(10:52):
flashbacks from that, but it's also a challenge being around
the losing team. I had to fly back on the
team playing was the losing team. And let me tell you,
to be around fifty something adult men who have sacrificed
their lives, their bodies, their families, time, time with their kids,
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missing births, missing funerals, to.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Be on that plane of the losing team. Excuse me
for Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You talk about waiting for the The air was pressurized.
Let me say that more so than on a normal flight.
And it's an interesting feeling, right to be on the outside,
having no emotion, no attachment to it. I still can
feel and recall the pain of losing a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
All that's were all work, from training camp, to the
mini camps they had before training camp, to the preseason games.
That Titans team started off six to zero before they're
losing their first game of the season. I was on.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I was covering that team that year to.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Winning the AFC Championship games to getting to the super
Bowl and then one yard away.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
How much pain did you feel on that plane units
how much did you see in those.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Players, those fifty three players that gave everything, they wanted,
everything they had to win that particular game.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
How much pain? Did you say it again one more time?
A lot of pain? Right, it was a lot of pain.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But you know what, but let me say this. It
was a lot of pain.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And they were looking at me to show the emotion
that they didn't feel they could show. And you know,
I was the girl on the team, you know, and
I was just like, well, I don't you mean cry.
That didn't mean cry, Just show the emotion.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
As a sports professional, you are trained that you don't
show emotion in the press box, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So it can be your team, it can be your friends.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You sitting in the press box, you get escorted and
put out the press box if you dare cheer, yell, whatever.
So I am naturally inclined to be very stoic when
it comes to it's sports events.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So now you're on this plane, you're around these people
you've been working with all year, I'm not inclined to
show emotion.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Obviously we were disappointed, Obviously we were upset.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And I will say my memory of it this year
was also different because Steve mcnaer is not with us
anymore now, Frank Wychik, who was also part of the
Music City miracle. And you just realize how sports is
such a big part of an actual lived experience as friends,
as teammates, as fans, as neighbors, how much sports is
a part of our lives. And then when you have
the spaces that aren't fieled anymore, you know, it's always
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bigger than the game. It's a big game, the biggest game,
but it's so many other things that are bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But we saw it on as we say.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It is because I was in that same locker room.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I had to interview those players that day that night
after they lost, came up one yard short. I saw
the disappointment in their eyes. The next year, I went
to New York. The Giants went to the Super Bowl.
They lost the Super Bowl. I went into the locker
room and saw the pain, the disappointment of all that
hard work that they had generated over the season to
get to that point only to come up short.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Here's where I'm going right now, because.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You are back to lud charm. You are the Drake.
Oh I'm sorry, what were you saying?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I was I was.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I knew he was gonna do that, and I put
it on the team. Maybe they were just disappointed being
around me.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Maybe, But he don't cover team this year, but I've
covered I've covered a couple of world serious scenes with
the Yankees and a couple of NBA teams that went
to the NBA Chad.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So I'm good. I'm good, I'm good and bad So anyway,
but here's this.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
We talked about that emotion, we talk about that pain,
We talked about that sacrifice that they make. When I
hear people coming out talking about how the NFL is rigged,
how this is all scripted, I cringe. I get super emotional,
not only for myself but for those players that are
out there putting in all that hard work, all that dedication,
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putting their bodies, in their lives literally on the line,
weekend and week out to play the game of football,
to win the game of football. So when I hear
people talking about the Super Bowl is rigged, how the
NFL is scripted, I'm like, how.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Dare you you have?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What do you think people think that? Why do you
where do you think that that idea came from? For
so many people who say it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We live in a q Andon society these days. Everything
is conspiracy theory. Everybody thinks anything that doesn't go their
way is a conspiracy theory. That is bottom line.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You think about it from the Republicans on the q
Andon side when it comes to you know, like pizza
places of bringing in children and doing crazy things with
children or whatever, drinking the blood of children.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That extreme you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Even now when people are talking about the Illuminati, just
because somebody has a formal success or whatever and they
don't have that form of success, they must be in
the Illuminati.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
They must be gay.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It's always some kind of conspiracy theory that comes along
with success.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
If it doesn't go the person's way all of a sudden,
it can't.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Be because it was supposed to be, or because it
was a coincidence or whatnot. It has to be some
kind of conspiracy. So when you look at the NFL
and they're talking about, well, oh out the Super Bowl
colors are the colors of the San Francisco forty nine,
as Canta City chiefs, oh, this is already rigg. We
already know what's going to go on there, and it's
happened the last four years. Sometimes it can be a coincidence.
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They got monkeys at the zoo that picked the Super
Bowl winner? Is he in with the NFL? Does Roger
Goodell have him on the payroll too? I mean, come on,
let's not be so stupid and start thinking that this
game when you have seventeen hundred players who play in
this game every single year, and talking about the personnel,
talking about people like you who work for these NFL teams,
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that not one person who has ever worked for the
NFL has ever come out and said that the NFL
is scripted or this game is rigged, and a lot
of them can't stay in the NFL. Now, a lot
of them have sued the NFL, A lot of them
don't give a damn by the NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Not one of these people have come out and said
the game is rigged.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So how dare you come out and basically say that
this game is scripted and rig I just think it's stupid,
and I think you need to go somewhere with that,
enjoy the game or just move on, you know what
I mean, or just move on talking about that.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I just I don't like it. So I saw all
I had to say that death to all those were
not necessarily death.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I mean, he's going in maybe maybe.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Maybe maybe just stop watching it. If you feel like
it's rigg, just stop watching it because it's not for you.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I get people looking at it for the entertainment value
and all that type of stuff like that. I understand that,
you know, the NFL is bringing in people and they
care about so I get all that. But when you're
talking about the NFL is rigg. You're talking about it scripted.
I'm like, that is some of the dumbest things I've
ever heard. And I had a good friend of mine
when I was watching the Super Bowl that was making
it less enjoyable because every other see I told you
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this is rig man. Look, Patrick Mahomes does make that throw.
He threw interceptions. So, but what you say at the
end of the game when they actually won the game,
was it supposed to go in overtime? Was San Francisco
is supposed to kick that field? What party missed that
open receiver because Chris Jones came in unblocked. I mean, like,
was that all scripted for them? So? San Francisco and
the disappointment and the pain that you see on those players'
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faces at the end of the game. The Baltimore Ravens
the week before, Detroit Lions and their long suffering fans.
You think the Detroit Lions would purposely blow a seventeen
point lead a team that's never been to the Super
Bowl before, you know what I mean, and blow a
seventeen point lead in the come on.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Are you well? You know?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I will okay, I will say, I will say I
understand why people think it's ricked, and I'm gonna share why.
It was so many people that before this particular game,
once the two teams were set, that said exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
How the game was gonna go.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So those people already feel like, not that they have insight,
but I think it was a storybook ending for a
storybooks story that has the media has enjoyed telling. So
that's why most people before the game even started were
felt very confident in saying, you know what, the forty
nine ers are going to be in the lead, the
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majority of the gay the Chiefs are gonna come back toars,
He's gonna go to overtime, the Chiefs win.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yet, you know, but that's any you know sports movie
we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's the same difference in anything that seem to have
a storybook ending. Most of us aren't having a storybook experience,
so we look at way, I already knew the prince
was going to show up and save the princess, so
this probably had to be delivered in a different way.
I personally have had a lot of storybook experiences in
my life that if I look back now, I'm like, look,
I'll tell you the story. I don't know if you're
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gonna believe it, you know, And so sometimes those moments
are hard for people to believe, especially if they haven't
personally experienced a lot of storybook moments.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I think obviously the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is happy that it turned out the way it did
because that's probably and has already equated to that many
more viewers, that many more fans, that many more dollars,
and at the end of the day, the NFL somehow
is a nonprofit, but it is a profitable company. The
teams are in it to make money, the players are
in it to make money. I don't think the games
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are rigged. However, I do believe that a lot of
the marketing around how people consume the games is just
like a reality show. There's a script These are real people.
We didn't tell them what to say and do, but
we put them in situations that we know the audience
is gonna fill in the blanks. And so I think
as far as the marketing and the telling of the
story of the NFL is, particularly the Kansas City Chiefs,
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all of the things outside of necessarily what was on
the field was created and presented for people to feel
a certain kind of way, good, bad, and otherwise.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's on you how you feel about it. But all
of us were supposed to feel the triumph of the
football captain and the homecoming queen kissing at midfield. Great.
Couldn't have written it any better.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's the thrill of viy thory,
the agony of the feed. I get that.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
And you can look at the San Francisco fort nineers
and say they blew a lead. Look, and each of
the Kansas City Chiefs three Super Bowl wins they overcame
ten point deficits. So you can say, hey, the Chiefs
gonna get behind and they gonna come back and win
and maybe winning overtime.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
A lot of people can think of like that. I mean,
Vegas has odds on the chances of that happening. We
get that maybe because the game is so good, because
the drama and the intrigue and the play is so good,
and the build up it's so wonderful. Maybe that's just
what makes the NFL the best product known to man
when it comes to sports. I mean, it's the biggest
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product in the world outside of soccer across the world.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You're talking about here in the United States.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It was the most watched television show in American history,
one hundred and twenty five million people.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Now that did have a tailor swift effect, I will
say that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And yes, is the NFL inspect and the usher effect.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And the effect definitely the usher effect. We'll get to
that in a second. So does that happen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Does the NFL love the fact that we're actually even
talking about They even did a commercial at the beginning
of the season talking about how the game could be
scripted or whatever. But that just tells you how wonderful
it is. This product is so good, it's so unbelievable
sometimes that people think it is an NF that it
is a Hollywood script and that is just really a
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testament to the end.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But as far as like made.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Up as far as like the players in on it,
because the players got to be in on it, if
it's going to be scripted, if it's fixed already.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Right, that's not true. That's not the case. Vegas would
not allow that.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
To happen, to be quite honest with you, and I
know the NFL in Vegas, you know, because of everything
that's going on right now with the betting across the world.
Like I think forty states up to forty states are
legal betting when it comes to sports betting around in
all the states and whatnot. But at the same time, no,
it's not, man, they're not losing that kind of money.
Somebody would be in on it when you're talking about
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betting some of the players. That's why when the players
bet on the games, guess what happened. They get suspended.
James and Williams got suspended. I can't what the receiver
down in Jacksonville got suspended for an entire year because
of betting on the game. So if they already knew
what was going to happen in the game, don't you
think they probably be rich by now having some of
their friends rich by Now that's not true. So let's
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start with this whole rhetoric, man, and it just enjoyed
the satisfaction, the entry, the drama of the National Football
League because once again it showed you, just like it
did on Sunday, why it's the best product, hands down.
I love the NBA hands down when it comes to
sporting events across this world outside.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So I feel like we've already talked about the NFL
and football too long, so too back to the real
story the Usher console. So it was much talked about
and a lot of those eyeballs were there strictly for Usher.
Mine included. Like I said, I didn't have a dog
in the fight. I didn't see the first half of
the game. I had was outworking, but I wanted to
make sure I made it to see Usher. And you know,
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my generation, we grew up with Usher, even though he
felt like a kid back then, and you know he
has that he had the residency in Vegas. It was
a kind of a condensed version of his Vegas show
with the roller skates and the special guests and.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Even a little bit of it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I noticed that I thought it was a cute wink
to the Keiky Palmer situation when it said it may
cause relationship issues. The warning at the beginning of it,
I was like, oh, that's cut, you know. And so
the actual show itself. Though I have friends who like
are ten years younger than me. Usher is their their person.
I'm an Usher fan, like Usher, but they were like
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sending me the Bengo cards and I was like, girl,
I ain't that into it.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I like to be entertained. I don't hear who it is.
I don't care like that.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So I immediately reached out to my friends who were
who have gone to Vegas to see Usher, who have
paid the hundreds and thousands of dollars. I haven't, but
I haven't done that. They all were happy, they all
were pleased out with the show. I thought it was
an entertaining show. I can tell I'm getting old because
my feeling was, who who is all these people out here?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And that's the pageantry and the performance of a super
Bowl show. You're gonna have a thousand people. You had
the band, you had the no it was a it
was a black Andy Black halftime show. I appreciate that too.
It was very atl You had the band, the hu
Jackson State, you had the Gapitos out.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
There with the canes.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I mean it was a It was a beautiful representation
of Usher's career, and it was a great callback to
where you were when these were hits. And I mean,
he's just been a high a high performing performer for
his entire career. I can't remember a down time for Usher.
He probably could tell you when he thought he was down,
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but he is an artist who has maintained his high
level of success and it makes the audience dance and
sing and oh man, who you have the baby with him?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
To chick on the side and this song every week
got involved in his songs.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So the first half was slow, which was understandable because
he did a lot of the confession stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But I'm glad he ended it with all that high
energy and all the dancing and all that. So I'm giving.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Usher, since he cares about this from me, a B plus.
And that's just only because a B plus only because
by the time I'm singing along, we already moved on
to the next song.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So that's not his fault. But it's just like, just
let us do the concert.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, but lets you know how many hits that Usher has.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
He had fifteen minutes to do all that and he
only got through maybe half a lot of people were
upset because he.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Didn't do this song. He didn't could could you not
do this song? Usher did his theme? Man, I thought
I thought Usher was flawless.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
I think Usher solidified and his spot as the unified
of the undisputed king of R and B for sure.
I mean, like you said, he brought the aid to
the world, the world to the A. He did his thing,
bringing out her playing the guitar, whatnot, even outside of
Jermaine Duprix, who I thought was Celo Green at first
when he came out there with them.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah he's getting online, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And the socks and all that stuff, the Louis vatmsause
he put out there. That's all good. But everything was wonderful.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Of course, Ludacris and Lord John coming out singing a
We knew that was going to be the showstop at
the end the show. But Usher killed it, man, he
really killed it. Now was it the greatest halftime show
of all time?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Even though to somebody, to somebody, to somebody.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
May to maybe his generation, but I'm old enough to
remember Michael Jackson back in nineteen eighty three when this
man had a stunt on the top of the Rose
Bowl and then he jumped out and he just stood
on stage for two minutes and people couldn't stop screaming.
I mean, that's how big Michael Jackson was at that
particular time. But then Prince down in Miami singing Purple
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Rain as the Rain is coming down to me will
always go down as my all time favorite because I'm
just a big Prince fan.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So I think it kind of goes with who you like,
and Prince.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Is my favorite artist of all time, followed by Michael
Jackson and then somebody like Ushers.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It definitely in my top five. But Usher did his thing.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
There was nothing that I looked at that I felt like,
Okay was over the top, wasn't good enough songs that
he sang.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Everything was great.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Alicia Keys coming out, I know people making fun of
her voice cracking or whatever it, but come on, man,
once again, I'm gonna talk about that and stop that
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But yeah, no, I would say for the venue, for
the venue, I would have enjoyed fewer slower songs because
it's a football game. It's excitement, and so I think
it's just an energy flow. Even as a performer on stage.
You know, you want energy because you're asking the audience
to participate. It's an exchange of energy, and so when
you're doing slower music and slower songs, you've kind of
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lulled your audience into a relaxation.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
We love the songs or whatever. So I would have.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Liked longer bits of the higher energy songs just because
it was an energy exchange and it's a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But yeah, I thought it was a great show.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I think I think in addition to the special guest,
you know, I read that he asked Justin Bieber, and
Justin he was like, yeah, I'm not really feeling it.
But because of the associations and the collaborations Usher has
had over here, I mean, he could have asked twenty
five hundred people that we also love, and so people
got to be available, People got to want to have
the time and energy to rehearse, create that part of
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the show whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So it could have gone on forever. And I think
obviously we saw why those ticket prices with what they
were in Vegas. But I'm proud of.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
As as great as what as he did, and he's gonna, uh,
it's gonna pay dividends for him, because you know, these
Super Bowl performers don't get paid. They a lot of
times they put in their own money to actually help
out with production. I think The Weekend a couple of
years ago put in seven million dollars of his own
money for production. But it's on the back end of
what they get when it comes to streaming sales and revenue.
And of course Usher's about what he's about to put
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out another album or something like that, or going towards something.
So it's definitely gonna pay dividends for him because he
was seeing around the world. But the I guess the
the elephant in the room is what everybody's been talking about.
Even though he killed the performance and it was flawless
in my opinion or whatnot, people still gotta be messy.
People still got to bring up certain things whatnot.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So let me ask you this question, Wait, what are
people being mess What's what's the mess? What's the mess?
What's the mess?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh? The mess?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
The mess?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Because you kind of brought up the Key Palmer situation
with Usher and Alicia Keys.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Alicia Keys is being married at the Swiss Beats or whatnot.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But see, I don't process that as a mess. I
process that as that's entertainment. I think that's cool. They
made a little nod. They knew it was something that
came out the Usher. You know, everybody knows Alicia Keys
is married. I don't think Usher was being inappropriate whatever,
you know. I think that's entertainment. I think that's fun
little winks to I know what y'all gonna talk about,
this is fine.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Agree with you.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
What I'm saying is the mess is the reaction to
what was happening, like, oh, that's a married one, man,
I'll do it once again. It was the same thing
with the Kiki Palmer situation. Everybody's coming out and talking about, oh,
Swiss beasts got to have something to say, and Swiss
Beasts even came out and said basically, entertain I'm not
even gonna dress stop and stuff like that. They are entertainers.
They are entertainers and they are secure. Just and I understand,
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like you have an opinion like if you wouldn't let
your woman do it, but your woman ain't Alicia Keys
and your man ain't Usher. So if you got a
problem with it, man if if Swiss beast doesn't have
a problem with it, don't worry about it. Now, I
understand what the whole Kekey Palmer situation with Darius coming
out and all that stuff, and people get he came
out and made a big deal out and said something
about it or whatever, and Kiki disagreed or whatever. Then
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it kind of leads to a conversation whether you like
it or not. But if you're in an entertainment business, whatnot,
and if it's something probably that they've hurst or whatever.
And even though Alicia kind of looked like she was
kind of caught off bar by it, but Usha was
in the moment and it was not disrespectful there. I'm
pretty sure they're really good friends. And I'm pretty sure
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once again Swiss beats her husband had no problem with it,
even came out and said it had no problem with it.
Why should we have a problem with it If the
two people who are married don't have.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
A problem with it, I'm asking you, right, But again,
I think I think people who again offered those opinions
online or felt a certain kind of way about it,
like you said, aren't married to entertainers, don't understand the power.
I mean, that would be the same difference of any
movie you watch and somebody's kissing, you know, or how
many red carpets that the star co stars are standing
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next to each other, or you know, you want to
see that chemistry and that playful banter. So that's not
what I would consider mess for me, the mess that
I had noticed. More, what is it messy for Beyonce
right after Usher's performance to drop that Verizon commercial and
not just drop the Verizon commercial, drop new music, Because
it is very equivalent to proposing at your friend's reception. Now,
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you probably have talked to your friend, You probably have
sad to your friend. Hey, you know, you've been a
part of our relationship. I would love you know, and
more than likely I would assume. I know it doesn't
always happen, but I would assume when you see those
moments when someone proposes at somebody else's wedding reception, they've
talked to the bride and groom, and the bride and
room said, oh my god, that would be so much
fun doing.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I would hope, Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The same way, I would assume uh Sha and Beyonce
have collaborated their peers in the industry that by the
time she's talking to him about the Super Bowl, that
she says, Oh, I'm dropping music. He probably was like, Yo,
that's gonna be so dope. That's been okay, cool, cool, cool,
let's assume era all everybody's fine. The perception was everybody
was talking about Beyonce and not us. Sure and not
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when I say everybody. Obviously we were talking about the
performance and what we like to what we looked like.
But Beyonce took over this sh show from there like
about thirteen seconds after we went. After that, and then
we have moved on.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You're talking more about the timing.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
That's timing the timing, because it was very similar to
why it seemed weird when Taylor Swift accepted her Album
of the Year award that she announced her new album,
because it's like, you're not in a room of fans,
You're in a room of peers, and so this might
not be the venue, and they they go had a
reaction that you would want them to have.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Those are your fans that are gonna be excited.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Obviously, anytime Beyonce has any kind of drop, hey, we
are here for it. We want to see it. We
know she is creative, she we know she's been in
the lab. The timing for her perfection. But was the
timing rude as far as business etiquette?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Nope, nope. I thought it was smart.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I thought it was Obviously it was smart, But was.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
This perfect because, like you said, people came to watch
the halftime show more people too.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I was.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I was watching a Super Bowl party and half of
the people at the already were paying attention to the game,
half them with drinking, playing cards, whatever whatnot. At halftime,
everybody was locked on that screen watching the Usher performance.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
And that was the Usher fan base, right, So that's
a musical fan base.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
As soon as that performance is over, guess what comes
on the next commercial, And it's product placement.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That's what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
As anytime you have ass anytime you buy any advertisement,
product placement matters where you put that ad at a
particular time.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
If you're watching Soul Train back in the day, that's
why you saw hair products, That's why you saw staysaft Fro,
you saw all those types of things. If you're watching
the game, you see beer commercials, whatnot. It matters where
you actually put your ad as well. So putting it
right after the Usher concert was genius by Beyonce. And
like you said, I'm pretty sure as a professional courtesy,
they probably had that conversation. And let's remember the reason
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why Usher, A big reason why Usher was even the
halftime performance, because a he's great, he's brilliant. He just
had the residency in Vegas, which was smart. But guess
who Beyonce's husband is, and guess what he's in charge of.
He's in charge of to have time entertainment. So hey,
this is what's gonna happen. Blah blah blah. Hey Beyonce,
you're putting this out. You got these new singles that
are coming out, just put it in right behind that
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or whatnot. And that's why she's the queen. And even
she had a commercial talking about breaking the Internet.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's what she wants to do, so right, sure, well
it was calculated, it was genius, It was brilliant. We
were all like, wow, we all ran the title and
the apples and nowload two new songs.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
We know that the new album coming out and all that.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yep, and also performing haveltime as super Bowl is one
of the biggest things a performer can do.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And so there is just this this.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Energy of and you know, Usher had a great day.
You got married, that day. You know, Usher really got.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
To bring that. I mean, it was I'm sure he
don't he has no qualms about the day.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
But I'm saying, as a professional, time and place perfection
for Beyonce brilliant. Also, I probably wouldn't have had a
choice to do it, because all of my advisors would
have said, oh, hell, yes we're doing this. But me
as a person, I probably would have been more hesitant
because I'm like, hey, I don't want you to feel this.
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My advisor's, my attorney, my husban, everybody's like, hey, this
ain't no feelings this business.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Let's go. And then yeah, it would have happened.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
So I'm saying I can imagine there were conversations about, hey,
I am known to break the internet. I don't want
this to take away from us shirt that you know,
all the things, and that's the thing about being an
artist and talk about you know, the back and forth
between who felt this and who felt that. There's emotions
that going to be being an artist an entertainer, and
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it's also a business and so sometimes if your vibe
ain't gonna help my business, I might have to cause
some separation. Or my vibe helps your business Taylor Swift,
go and tell all these games. Hey, I'm gonna encourage
the connection. It happens all the time. I'm saying, brilliant
for business, brilliant for Beyonce. Excited for new music everybody's
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talking about. I've seen all already, a bunch of really
cool covers from people in Nashville. I think it's gonna
be a great movement for her to kind of and
she's already kind of dipped her toe in the country
music genre anyway. It explains why she's been rocking out
these cowboy hats and all the last few apparents.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Because all of it was marketing. All of it was
a slow beat out.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
She had on a bolo tie, sitting there at the
super Bowl with the kind of the Dolly parton blonde.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
You know, so all of it, all of it. Nothing
happens by chance. Would I feel a certain kind of way.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Absolutely, if you're an usher, you feel a certain kind
of way.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yes, And no, I know Usher don't feel a certain
kind of way because he had an amazing day.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
It's a human. It's a human, not as an entertainer,
as a human, as a person.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Let me ask you, so, let me ask you a
question about the because you brought up somebody having a
wedding and somebody proposing at the wedding, which I think
sometimes could be wrong unless you ask somebody, right, would
you have a problem with somebody proposed at your wedding
if it was a friend of yours, a good friend of.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yours, If it's a good friend of mine, they've probably
asked me or her. If it's the dude, I would say,
you know what, I would rather not or I would
say I'd be cool with it. I've never been in
that situation, so I don't know how it would come
down to the friend, the guy, the wedding who I'm
you know, my husband would have to be. So it's
so many variables that I couldn't speak on that I
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don't know, but I'm saying I would hope anytime I've
seen someone do it, that they did have a conversation
with the bride and groom that it wouldn't take away
because that's the day that you didn't spend a lot
of money on. That's a lot of day your friends
and family there, and that is a day that you
get to be the focus. So anything that takes away
from that whether somebody else has on a white dress
where somebody brought their kids, just crying through the whole ceremony.
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I mean, everybody got their cell phone out, messing up,
you know. So it's a lot of things that would
bother you that day, because this was the one day
I asked y'all to show up and look at me.
Anything outside of that, somebody could potentially have a problem.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
You know, that's always absolutely right. So this is the done.
There have been that podcast. I've never said this publicly.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
No, I don't know if I want you to.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
M I'm contemplating whether I should.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
If you're thinking that hard, they say, thank long, thank wrong,
don't do it.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
No, no, no, it's nothing bad. I don't think it's
nothing bad. But once again, this is when we speak
our truth. This is talking about situations. Being in that situation, right,
this is the whole premise of our podcast. We've been
in situations like that. I've been in that situation where
I've been at a wedding. So a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Know is that.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Obviously people saw me proposed to Cynthia on television at
her it was a wine opening something she was having
something when she was doing.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
She was unveiling something, and so I proposed there had
my kids there and all that stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I was on television. That wasn't the first time I
proposed to Cynthia. The first time I proposed to Cynthia obviously,
you know, like I said, we were in Jamaica and
we were scott diving or this first time she had
ever been parasit and whatever, and I asked her then, right,
I didn't have a ring, I have anything like that.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So it really wasn't a proposal to be quiet.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
It really wasn't.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
It really was so we could talk about that. We
can talk about. But that's the first time I said,
I know I wanted to get married again. So I
did that up there. I felt like that was a
once in a lifetime thing. I knew she wasn't ever
going to do it again because she was afraid of heights.
So I did it and then came down and we
told somebody, and it got back to the bride and
the groom who was a good friend of hers. Right,
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so we was at the reception and all that type
of stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Wait, wait, wait, I guess I missed the party story
that you were at a wedding when y'all went sky diving.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
No, so we was in Jamaica. It was a destination wedding.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So it was somebody else's wed.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Okaybody, okay, yeah, so we want Scott diving or whatever?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Did that?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Blah blah ask her and I said, I want to,
you know, spend the rest of I'm like, oh, that
didn't worry the officer. So during during the wedding all
that stuff like that, people knew about it. And at
the reception we was dancing, having a good time, and
the bride and the groom actually said something to me.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Like, why don't you do it here?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
And I'm like, I don't even have ring, not doing
anything like so I was contemplating the whole night, you know,
started drinking and all that type of stuff like that.
And then all of a sudden at the end of
the night, people just started looking at us and was
dancing together whatnot, and Brian and groom just kept saying
doing like this, and my dumb ass in a sense,
not dumb, but I was caught up in a moment
I only have a ring, just came down, got on
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one knee and basically proposed this woman in front of
all these people at this person's wedding or whatever. I
felt bad about it at the time. I felt worse
because I didn't have rings, so it wasn't official. And
of course it wasn't official because the cameras weren't there
on as well, so it couldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
So so wait, why do you say it wasn't official
because the cameras weren't there many it wasn't were you
contractually obligated to propose on camera during that time frame.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Let's just say that.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
In the reality show world, it didn't happen unless it
was on camera. Okay, I'll just leave it at that
from what I understand. And then plus, once again, it
wasn't an official engagement in the sense because because I
didn't have the ring, wasn't ready for it, or whatever.
Just knew that that was the time I wanted to
marry or at the time. Obviously it didn't work out,
But we couldn't even tell anybody about it. As a
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matter of fact, I told everybody who was filming. I said, like,
you guys, can't put this out. It can't be on
the internet, can be anywhere on social media or whatever,
because this would have been something I would have gotten
back to her people and then they would have been
upset about that.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
So, uh, but I can put it on my podcast,
I know.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
But let me tell any man that's listening, it is
not a proposal without a ring. It's a concept, it's
an idea, it's a moment.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
It was a moment. It wasn't proposed, it wasn't I'm
just saying it was a.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Public it was a public acknowledgment of your interns of public.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
So only reason I even said this is because we're
talking about how you know, Ussher had this, yeah, and
how Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Pretty much proposed at his wedding and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
So if we're going to talk about our own lives,
which I think we should, like we're opening up and
being transparent about that type of stuff like that, I
am not going to talk or give my pin in
one way or another on somebody else, knowing I've been
in similar situations and not tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
So I think that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I think your people, everybody that was there did a
great job in not telling everybody that.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
That's another whole thing.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
But again, it came down to how the bride and groom.
Groom's relationship was with you. And that's why I said,
it's a case by case situation. It might be the
bride and groom introduced y'all and they're like, oh my god,
we celebrate, you know. Or it could also be you
know what this she's always been trying to upstage me,
our whole friendship, and now you know what I'm saying.
So it's so many different dynamics that go into every
time it happens that you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
But the overall thought is, don't wear no.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
White to nobody's wedding if the attire is not all white,
and don't go proposing.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Don't announce you pregnant at my baby shower.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Anybody's wedding again.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Oh do we get do? Is this on tape? Is
this recording? Is this recording?
Speaker 2 (43:52):
You?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Wait again? This thing on this thing on?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Believe this?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
We ever, ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Let me tell you why I know this is not true.
I can't I can't leave you just said that on camera.
Because people who get married get married, and people who
don't get married don't get married.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
You will get married some of mine.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
You like getting married, You like getting married.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I like trying.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Again again.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
No, I mean no, no, I just don't think it's life.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
That's not a bad thing. I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Get married. I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I don't know that I will get married.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
I'm not anti marriage at all, but it's not even
something that I think about or that i'm pro or anti.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's not even a thought, right.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
But I will say historically I have friends who I was,
I was in their weddings whatever, but I've been in
multiple weddings. And then I have friends like me who've
never been married. I ain't never been a nun of
their weddings and so and it's import you, like you
know what, people who get married, or you can look
at anybody who has had multiple marriages, they are going
to get married because it's something about people who get
married will meet people who will get married to them
(45:11):
till you do right by me, and y'all gonna keep
finding each other and y'all gonna keep getting married.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Oh, I can't wait. All right, let me say this
one last thing.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
A lot of times it's hard to enjoy the Super
Bowl commercials, which is another big pull to the game,
because you got people talking and you watching the game
or in and out drinking talking about anyway.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
A couple of commercials were highlights to me. Obviously. The
Dunk Kings Dunk Kings Donuts commercial was really great with
Ben Affleck, j Lo, Matt Damon.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
The reason why I was great is because I like
when people are able to laugh at themselves. And so,
you know, the media's perception and the way folks talk
about Brad Brad Pit Ben Affleck being miserable or looking
bored or whatever, that's just his resting bitch face. I
understand it well. And I love that they were able
to make this whole campaign. I like that everyone, I
like the j Low was able to you know, come in.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
So I love that for what it was.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
A couple of weird commercials. Mark Wahlberg has a prayer app.
Mark Warburg. Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Mark Wahlberg is a devout Catholic and there is a
prayer app that had a Super Bowl commercial, and I
don't know, I understand he's one of the co founders
of our ms and all that.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
He's just a weird face for it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
And I'm not saying I'm not judging somebody's walking journey, right,
but I'm just saying, Also, we naturally have associations for people,
and so that's why you do have people promoting certain things,
because you have an association with them for certain things.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So that was interesting. It's it's been out this particular
app because I looked into it.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I can't take the name of it now, Hallo, halloed
or something like that, and I think it's one of
the only prayer apps, Catholic prayer apps, so it's.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Like number one on the rankings. But I thought that
was an interesting commercial for Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
And then cedar Field had a little situation because there
is a It was a commercial about a father, a stepfather,
and his daughter. The stepfather is white, the step daughter
is black, and it was about them. Hello, thank you producer, Chris.
The app, the prayer app, it's called Hallo. So this
commercial for Cedaphil is like pools on the heartstrings and
(47:22):
has this dad and daughter bonding over Taylor Swift and
football and you know, now the daughter wants to watch
the games with the dad and all that. Well, it
was completely ripped off from a TikToker who had already
made these videos. So when people saw the commercial, they're like, oh,
my god, this TikToker we followed this is your story?
Did did ceafhel pay you off of this?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Well?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Ceeda phil the first came out and said, oh, we
just found out about her today. That's so cool. She
had a similar story to our commercial.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
And everybody on TikTok was like, absolutely not a white
step dad, a black girl. She's been doing these videos
for months and now we see a commercial just like
this with the eyepatches on it, and everybody was like,
oh no, cedar Field know you will not. And then
the next thing, you know, the daughter and the step dad,
they came out and did a video like yeah, Cee
the Field, that ain't really cool. The next few hours
(48:12):
you got a commercial, a TikTok video from this daughter
and her stepdad saying with the hashtags Cee the Field
partner Ceearfield, thank you for doing right by us.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
We can't wait for you guys to see more with
us in cedar Field. So subsidy.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Executive somebody who writes these commercials saw that, and you know,
it's the same thing with jokes stealing.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
They feel like they can get away with it.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Let's just take bits and pieces of it and make
it into the DNA because they're under pressure.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
They can't come up with something. So this is cute.
They'll never know, but I.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Give them points. They rectifight it quickly.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
You know, they first tried to say, oh that's cute,
we just found out about her today.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
They erectifight it quickly. So that's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Do right by them in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Why did they have to go through hoops and jump
through hoops and do all those types of things and
hurdles and all that. Do right by them in the beginning,
Say hey, we like this, we want to take this,
we'll steal the ad, we'll give actors, but.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
We want to give you credit for it. We want
to give you money, we want to compensate.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Do right by people in the beginning, and not do
it on the back end, because I'm pretty sure they
still don't get it, because you know how much it costs.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
To do a Super Bowl at all that. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure they're not getting a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
They're getting some money, they're being compensated, but the kind
of money that they probably should have been getting probably
doesn't correct.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
But you know what it and we're here, they're here.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
They're only doing it because they got caught. That's it.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
But you know what the thing is, that's the whole
thing with the Internet and specifically comedy. Most comedians won't
upload anything outside of CrowdWork because you upload some joke
somebody and hoboken New Jersey doing your whole set, and
if they hit with it, then you look like you
stole their joke because no one ever heard you say it,
because they weren't sitting there at the crowd when you
did it. But it's one of those things where with
social media, TikTok, anything that you put out publicly right
(49:56):
there is this I don't even want to say risk,
but you you are offering something for everyone to consume,
and unfortunately you don't always get compensated right for being
someone's inspiration a lot of times right And so it's
a very slippery slope because you know, it could be Okay,
(50:16):
I had my dog singing a song and I put
it on TikTok and then I see a commercial with
singing dog.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Was that based on mind? Yes or no? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
So it's always can always be disputed. You know, when
you write a script in Hollywood, you have to sign
a release before they even look at your script that says, hey,
we may have already been working on something that was
just like this, and just because you're sending this to
us and we make a movie they look like this
don't mean you can come back and sue us and
say we took care of movie. And if this does
go to arbitration, you only gonna get a thousand dollars.
(50:45):
I've signed several pieces of paper like that, so it's
one of those things that it happens. I'm glad see
to feel rectified. They did try it. They tried it,
but they rectified it pretty quickly, and I'm happy and
excited for that particular creator. And that's the way of
the world of advertising. You have these multi million dollar
commercials and a lot of them are featuring influencers being
inspired by just people in their homes creating content because
(51:07):
they're seeing what regular people are reacting to that. They
still probably gonna get a celebrity and paid them a
bunch of money to do it, But keep creating, Keep creating.
People are watching. Hopefully they will credit and compensate, but
know that people are consuming you.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Keep sharing.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I love it. That's good stuff. That's really good stuff.
Good commercial.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
I didn't see a lot of the commercials either, because
actually I was doing a party whatever and people were talking.
But I did see the Dunkings. I saw the bet MGM.
I'm a Tom Brady fan. I love Tom Brady. I
felt like because he wins everything or whatever. So I
thought that was pretty good. And the Honor schueshnega, that's
honor that your nay by I So I thought that
State Farm commercial was pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
But yeah, wait, and I have to say it rising
with Beyonce, that's a given, Okay, that one put that
on that.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Yeah, look, breaking the Internet, she still blaks the internet. Man,
anything she does, she breaks the Internet. Like I said,
Beyonce is the most powerful force on the face of
the earth. Once again, I said it beyond he can
get an arena or stadium full of black women to
shut up.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
I don't know why he's gonna repeat this. He said
it in the first episode. They let him lay up.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
Ya.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
He's testing, he's testing faith.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
He's testing face a bad thing to shut up and said,
but hey, but other black women get mad when y'all
don't shut up.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
When Beyonce tael y'all to just you.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
But it's not shut up. That's what we said in
the first episode. It wasn't about show. It's called Mute.
It's a song. It's not about getting black women to
shut up different different things. Anyway, Stop that. I'm not
gonna let that be my stop that, but stop that.
But leading into this week, stop that. You know, Patrick
Mahomes winning the Super Bowl is now obviously and me
previously has been in the goat conversation of QB's uh obviously,
(52:39):
Tom Brady I think has held that title undisputedful quite
some time. Rightfully so, and so I want people to
stop immediately comparing everyone's greatness to someone else's greatness and
just let everybody be great on their own. It's one
of those things. Obviously, you know, we were talking about
the halftime show. You don't have to compare halftime shows
because who whatever show was your least favorite, was somebody
(53:00):
on the planet's favorite show, you know, And so people
will argue with strangers on the internet about who's favorite.
It's like you don't get to pick other people's favorite
or think they're wrong because your favorite was their favorite.
But also with athletes. You know the Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Commy,
that Kolby. Just let people be great. Now, the stats
will line up, and if you just want to go
(53:21):
stat for stat or whatever. But then when you look
at stats and you're looking at different errors, you're looking
at different rules, you're looking at different things that that
may have affected stats and what people got. Just enjoy
what you enjoy, and you don't have to make a
list to enjoy it. You don't have to be first
on the list for you to love it. It don't
have to be fifth on the list for you to
love it. It could just be something you enjoyed and love.
Somebody did something great, congratulate them. You don't need me
(53:42):
to have to start arguing about who's the best.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Also, goats, I.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Feel like goats are something that time establishes. I don't
think we have to keep establishing goats in real time
every other week. I think we let history dictate that.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
And that feels subjectively.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
I feel about the whole Patrick Mahome situation when Tom
Brady's like, Okay, he's one. Eventually, maybe he will become
the goat, but come on, tom Brady's still there. And
I said the same thing about Tom Brady when it
was Joe Montana he was still playing. I thought Joe
Montana was to go until Tom Brady overtook him. So
Tom will take it. Lebron could eventually be the goal
of the NBA as well, who knows. But let's stop.
Like you just mentioned, just because somebody's else's opinion is
(54:23):
their opinion doesn't necessarily mean it's your fact. We're not
saying it's your fact, it's their opinion. And nine times
out of ten you have asked them for their opinion.
That's one thing I hate about being a sportscaster sometimes
is going into a barbershop and somebody saying, oh, Mike's
on Televis's sportscast and they asked me my opinion about something,
and my opinion does not align what they're what they
(54:43):
feel like is their fact, and they want to argue
me down. Look, and you don't have to tear somebody
else down just to build your person up. You can
just say, hey, you know what, Okay, I hear you
what you're saying there, but make a case for your guy.
And that's where I come to my stop there, man,
Just stop buying into the ignorance of us tearing the down.
It's happening so much in twenty twenty four man black comedians, especially,
(55:06):
we have just been.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
On a rampage.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
The older black comedians have been on our rampage started
with Kat Williams whatnot. And I understand people have gripes.
I understand people have their issues with other comedians whatnot,
and sometimes they want to come out and tell the truth,
and that's wonderful whatnot. But when we start doing it
and it becomes a trend, and other comedians started looking
at it, like Monique just came out and did the
same thing or whatnot, and she's very sweet, don't get
(55:29):
me wrong, behind the scenes whatnot, and she starts tearing
other people down and rehashing things that happened two or
three years ago. We have got to stop doing that
because I think we're destroying not only us as family,
but us as a culture or whatever. And guess what
people are doing that don't look like us. They're laughing
at it at us. Who needs white supremacy when we're
doing the damn good job of actually tearing each other down.
(55:52):
So we need to stop buying into the ignorance as well,
because what's happening now is, like you talked about, people
have an opinion, and now you're starting to take size.
So if you like Kevin Hart before, but because Cat
William said something about Kevin Hart, now you can't stand
Kevin Hart because he did this, you just automatically gonna
believe that. So we got to also stop buyding to
the ignorance, and we need to encourage and promote some
(56:13):
positive talk, some positive thinking, and positive rhetoric that's out
there about us. So I pray that we will stop
tearing each other down as we continue to go on.
Because we're only halfway through February of twenty twenty four,
we still got ten to half once left. I can
only imagine where we're going to be if we continue
to do what we've been doing at the pace we've
been doing it so far in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
So please stop that.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
I think that's all we got for this week. I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Make sure you subscribe to the podcast, and don't don't
be a gatekeeper, don't be greedy, don't be selfish. Share
us with your friends and loved ones. If you care
about them, you will share our podcast and say you
guys need to listen to this. We also love when
you send us comments, even when they are funky and
wrong against me.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Love you for it. Fall back them men, fall back,
fall back, all right, retreat, retreat.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
I don't like things about your units. I hate it
when they.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
See that that, hey, look how many screen names Mike
Keel got over there.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
Anymore?
Speaker 3 (57:13):
But I like that people are engaged. I like the
people are engaged.
Speaker 4 (57:17):
You can tell me how right I am and how
great I am on this podcast without putting units down.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
You don't have to do right. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I don't think that's what's happening. I don't think that's
what's happening. But but the thing is, I don't mind
the engagement. I'm just saying, let's try something different sometimes.
But I enjoy the engagement.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Make sure you like, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, share,
keep commenting, and until next week, we'll go somewhere and
do something and be something.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
Okay, that's done, there been that be.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Somebody great done, there have been that. Peace. See next
week
And we're back for another edition of a Done There
Been that. I am Eunice Elliott, joined by the effervescent
Mike Hill.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I had to look that word up.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I know, I thought I would give you your vocabulary
word of the day.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Effves that was?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That was? That was good? Hey, what's up? Units how
you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm wonderful? How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
That feels like I'm alive and well, like I'm like
moisturized or something like that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Efferves just sounds like it's like wet.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Like it's like, okay, well, no, your moisturize is different
than we But yeah, taking this positive and move on
because see that's what I'm saying. You can't tell the
man a word. And that next thing he told me, Yeah,
I like that. I sound wet.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I take it from you know, you know it's this
ain't that kind of podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm almost afraid to ask you where have you been
and what have you done?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
But uh, I.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Ain't been there a little bit of a drought. When
it's coming to that, keep it here, Michael.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Hold on, let me bring it back down, Let me
bring it back down. Done there. This is where I
am right now? Where have I been? I hosted at
the end problem last night, which was a thrill to
be no fun Yeah yeah, hosted My Boy Gumbo. I'll
know if you no Gumbo, but give me an opportunity
to go up there and co host with them with
some great comedians.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Had a good time and enjoying it.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I got like three or four shows this week coming up,
including one with you, so looking forward to that on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, same same working you know.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I still have not been discovered yet, so now I'm
on the clock. I had claimed at the beginning of
February I was getting discovered this month, and each day
that passes in February, I'm like somebody needs to get
on it. So still working on getting discovered. And by discovered,
I mean by somebody other than Willes Fargo.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
They don't own.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They stay in my inbox every day, Like, hey girl.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
When can we expect payment? We have just still tell
you you not made you a monthly think that's what we've.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Discovered, discovered, discovered, I made it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So I am looking forward to getting discovered by somebody else,
but just more shows. Yeah, we have a day show
coming up on this Saturday in Town. I also have
a show in Santa Barbara coming up. So just a
lot of comedy. Comedy has been fun, and comedy is
probably one thing that keeps me excited most of the
time because you can go and make people.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I will thank you. Mike LifeWise.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let me tell you, I've only seen you once or twice,
but I've been impressed. I know you always talk about
just starting out or whatever, but I think if you
are a natural born entertainer or presenter, comedy is kind
of another step in the storytelling arena.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know, it's all comes down to storytelling.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Here's the thing. You have been discovered. You just don't
know you've been discovered yet. There are people that are
talking about you in places that you don't even know about,
that are going to make a difference in your life
in the years to come. Just wait and see it's
they're they're already they've discovered you. They just haven't done
anything with you. So it's coming. You are an immensely
talented person. I'm telling you, Ma, I'm gonna one man
would look back and five six years from now, I'm saying, hey,
(03:04):
you know what, we used to do a podcast together,
and I'm like, be so proud.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hopefully I'm somewhere big too. But hopefully you know we're.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Saying we used to do this podcast, because maybe we'll
still be doing the podcast maybe if I don't know,
if the Inflection Network be able to pay you by.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Then you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Price going up, prices, prices going up.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Definitely. Sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I spent some time with Jay Harris over the you
know Jay Harris from ESPN. Yeah, he was in town
with his wife and my best friend, all three of them.
We had a house full of people in here. We
had a wonderful time.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Man. So it's always good to be around your friends
and family as well.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
What were you going to say, so, No, I was
gonna say, you know, the whole discovery piece.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think that's the story for everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's like, you know, you don't see the seed under
the ground, and sometimes you can kind of be messing
up the process because you keep digging it up, trying
to check on it, like, well, wait a minute, is
it germinating?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Is it growing? Is it that you know, just.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Leaving it alone plant to see nurture it water, going
about your business.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But if it could be this week, But if it
could be this week.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You know, what. You don't want them to dig it
up before time either. If it ain't right, you don't
want it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I just need the time to be this week's.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Time to be this week, and you want it to
be by the right people, because you know, I always say,
and I've learned, and I've been in this business for
twenty nine years and I've had to learn patience. So
we're talking about done there being that patience is key
because there have been opportunities that I've been presented with
that I'm happy that I did not get or I
turned down because it would have ruined my career instead
of upholding or enhancing my career. So sometimes man with
(04:35):
glitters ain't always gold. So just because somebody gives you
an opportunity, you think it's an opportunity of lifetime, you
feel it and your gut and if your gut is
telling you that this is not right for you at
this particular time, always listen to your gut. I'm telling you,
all right.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I like how you keep going so philosophical. I agree
with everything you're saying. And anything happen this week, okay,
all that, I'm gonna be patient for this week with
the patient I'm patient this week. It's you know, we
just get started. You got to the end of the week. Okay,
you're the first.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Lord of God. Mix it quickly. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Now, you said you're had a house full of people,
but that's because you were having a Are we allowed to
say super Bowl party without having to pay for it?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
We have to say the Big Game party.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I had a big Game party down and you know,
my friends didn't show up. My friends were Jay was
on the yacht somewhere. My friend was somewhere. He went
back to Las Vegas with his girl or whatnot, so
they were gone by then. But I had a big
Super Bowl party. And it was a coordination once again,
because Kansas City Chiefs officially a dynasty. Patrick Mahomes his
third time winning Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
The Chiefs did it. And here's the thing about the units.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You know, we don't talk much about the games on
this podcast, but I got to talk about Patrick Mahomes
because as soon as I saw San Francisco kicked that
field goal in overtime and they gave Patrick Mahomes that
opportunity to win the game on their possession, I knew
it was over.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because Patrick, you don't what just that guy?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know, I feel that in every overtime when somebody
kicks the field goal on that first possession, I don't
care who the quarterback is. I know, oh well, they
know they got to get a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Want to beat me.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think anytime a Super Bowl goes to overtime, you know,
I don't know if I have PTSD from being with
the Titans in the Super Bowl. It's like I didn't
have I didn't have a dog in this particular fight.
So my emotions, but just as a sports fan, you know,
you can't help but feel the excitement for a potentially
winning team the devastation of a potentially losing team. So
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overtime it's always great dramatics and theatrics.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
But also it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'm a person that I would rather even if it's
my team, I would prefer a blowout.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Emotionally, I would.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Rather us know we gonna lose by forty five to
nothing but the second quarter, than to lose by missfield
goal in overtime. Like or I would just I beat
my team, beat my team, beat us up, embarrass us,
and I will feel better about the Emotionally now, I.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Still wanna win. I still want to feel like I
got a chance.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But just whoop us, I totally agree. I like my
team is out of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I'm so like, I'm so happy sometimes when my team
doesn't even make the playoffs, because I know that particular
team they weren't good enough to actually win it all.
But sometimes they get into the playoffs and you think
maybe there's a chance, and then your emotions and your
anxiety starts getting up, and then your anticipation starts perking, lating.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
A little bit more than it should be. You know,
I got PTSD from you know, just you know, we're
talking about done that been that.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
You know, my dad was always saying my real dad
said he was gonna come pick me up on the
stoop on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
He always got to go somewhere with this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I knew where the story was going as soon as
you say it, my real dad, this is done. This
was going to be an abandonment issue story. As soon
as that I knew I got a real dad. I
have a real dad too, and I knew were keeping
it light. We're keeping it light, okay. When we started
my real dads, I know I already know where it's going.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But I'm working through my traumas. That's what I'm doing.
It's just like this.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And as recommend anticipation and you feel like, Okay, this
might be the year, and then they disappoint you because
they don't show up when they're supposed to and they
said it, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
See, And that's what I'm saying. That's why I knew it, y'all.
I'll be trying to get him to pull it back
like Mike.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Saw literally, if you're watching it on YouTube, y'all can
see the DOUN there ben that screen behind the Mike.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I can see the WRIT team on the wall from here.
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Here's the thing about that. I will say your team
and my team did it to me this year. University
of Alabama. From very early on, they were not a
disciplined team. They were making really bad pens all season,
and so I didn't have a lot invested in them emotionally.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
This year, I want them to win every game.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm still a fan, but I wasn't emotionally invested in them,
and I remember when they made it to the SEC
Championship game.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I need even try to watch the game. I was
working that day.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I didn't even try to get it off because I
didn't want to see the embarrassment. And as I can
checking the score of the game, and Alabama was leading
the majority of the game, I kept saying, Okay, I'm
getting frustrated, just go ahead and beat us.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So we can move on.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And by this time they beat Georgia and then dated
to the point I was like, I tried not to
get involved here, and.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Then we know how that ended. So I want to
enjoy the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And that's what I'm talking about, the anticipator of getting
so close and then just having your emotions just dissolved
at then imagine being an Atlanta Falcons fan having a
twenty five point lead in the Super Bowl against New
England Patriots and losing that lead in the second half.
I'm talking about they have never gotten past that. So
imagine being San Francisco. In the last four years, you've
gone to two Super Bowls, lost to the same team
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and you and both of those you blew ten point leads.
So being a fan is a hard, hard role to
crawl sometimes, especially if your team disappoints you. It's good
to get there, it's good to say you've gotten to
the super Bowl, you got into the pinnacle. But if
you don't win it all, at the end of the day,
when that confetti comes down, you just want to kick everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's hard.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
It's hard people destroying flat screen televisions because their team lost.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Wonderful and that's not okay. And that's not okay, guys.
Let's let's let's just go ahead and say that's not okay.
But you know what's interesting. And I worked for the
Tennessee Titans when we made it to the super Bowl,
but the week or the two weeks before for the
AMC Championship game was the Music City Miracle, you know.
And so again that team was not We lost. I
remember we lost every preseason game. It was just our
first year being the Titans after making the move up
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to the Tennessee Order, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So everything was new.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It was a new stadium, new uniforms, new logo, and
so there was not a lot expected of this team.
But as the season went on, the Music City Miracle
making it to the AMC Championship Game, then going to
the super Bowl to lose by that one yard that
that spatsd And so what I remember when I'm watching
the super Bowl is going overtime. Of course I have
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flashbacks from that, but it's also a challenge being around
the losing team. I had to fly back on the
team playing was the losing team. And let me tell you,
to be around fifty something adult men who have sacrificed
their lives, their bodies, their families, time, time with their kids,
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missing births, missing funerals, to.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Be on that plane of the losing team. Excuse me
for Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You talk about waiting for the The air was pressurized.
Let me say that more so than on a normal flight.
And it's an interesting feeling, right to be on the outside,
having no emotion, no attachment to it. I still can
feel and recall the pain of losing a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
All that's were all work, from training camp, to the
mini camps they had before training camp, to the preseason games.
That Titans team started off six to zero before they're
losing their first game of the season. I was on.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I was covering that team that year to.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Winning the AFC Championship games to getting to the super
Bowl and then one yard away.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
How much pain did you feel on that plane units
how much did you see in those.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Players, those fifty three players that gave everything, they wanted,
everything they had to win that particular game.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
How much pain? Did you say it again one more time?
A lot of pain? Right, it was a lot of pain.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But you know what, but let me say this. It
was a lot of pain.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And they were looking at me to show the emotion
that they didn't feel they could show. And you know,
I was the girl on the team, you know, and
I was just like, well, I don't you mean cry.
That didn't mean cry, Just show the emotion.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
As a sports professional, you are trained that you don't
show emotion in the press box, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So it can be your team, it can be your friends.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You sitting in the press box, you get escorted and
put out the press box if you dare cheer, yell, whatever.
So I am naturally inclined to be very stoic when
it comes to it's sports events.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So now you're on this plane, you're around these people
you've been working with all year, I'm not inclined to
show emotion.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Obviously we were disappointed, Obviously we were upset.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And I will say my memory of it this year
was also different because Steve mcnaer is not with us
anymore now, Frank Wychik, who was also part of the
Music City miracle. And you just realize how sports is
such a big part of an actual lived experience as friends,
as teammates, as fans, as neighbors, how much sports is
a part of our lives. And then when you have
the spaces that aren't fieled anymore, you know, it's always
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bigger than the game. It's a big game, the biggest game,
but it's so many other things that are bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But we saw it on as we say.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It is because I was in that same locker room.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I had to interview those players that day that night
after they lost, came up one yard short. I saw
the disappointment in their eyes. The next year, I went
to New York. The Giants went to the Super Bowl.
They lost the Super Bowl. I went into the locker
room and saw the pain, the disappointment of all that
hard work that they had generated over the season to
get to that point only to come up short.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Here's where I'm going right now, because.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You are back to lud charm. You are the Drake.
Oh I'm sorry, what were you saying?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I was I was.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I knew he was gonna do that, and I put
it on the team. Maybe they were just disappointed being
around me.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Maybe, But he don't cover team this year, but I've
covered I've covered a couple of world serious scenes with
the Yankees and a couple of NBA teams that went
to the NBA Chad.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So I'm good. I'm good, I'm good and bad So anyway,
but here's this.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
We talked about that emotion, we talk about that pain,
We talked about that sacrifice that they make. When I
hear people coming out talking about how the NFL is rigged,
how this is all scripted, I cringe. I get super emotional,
not only for myself but for those players that are
out there putting in all that hard work, all that dedication,
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putting their bodies, in their lives literally on the line,
weekend and week out to play the game of football,
to win the game of football. So when I hear
people talking about the Super Bowl is rigged, how the
NFL is scripted, I'm like, how.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Dare you you have?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What do you think people think that? Why do you
where do you think that that idea came from? For
so many people who say it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We live in a q Andon society these days. Everything
is conspiracy theory. Everybody thinks anything that doesn't go their
way is a conspiracy theory. That is bottom line.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You think about it from the Republicans on the q
Andon side when it comes to you know, like pizza
places of bringing in children and doing crazy things with
children or whatever, drinking the blood of children.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That extreme you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Even now when people are talking about the Illuminati, just
because somebody has a formal success or whatever and they
don't have that form of success, they must be in
the Illuminati.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
They must be gay.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It's always some kind of conspiracy theory that comes along
with success.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
If it doesn't go the person's way all of a sudden,
it can't.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Be because it was supposed to be, or because it
was a coincidence or whatnot. It has to be some
kind of conspiracy. So when you look at the NFL
and they're talking about, well, oh out the Super Bowl
colors are the colors of the San Francisco forty nine,
as Canta City chiefs, oh, this is already rigg. We
already know what's going to go on there, and it's
happened the last four years. Sometimes it can be a coincidence.
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They got monkeys at the zoo that picked the Super
Bowl winner? Is he in with the NFL? Does Roger
Goodell have him on the payroll too? I mean, come on,
let's not be so stupid and start thinking that this
game when you have seventeen hundred players who play in
this game every single year, and talking about the personnel,
talking about people like you who work for these NFL teams,
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that not one person who has ever worked for the
NFL has ever come out and said that the NFL
is scripted or this game is rigged, and a lot
of them can't stay in the NFL. Now, a lot
of them have sued the NFL, A lot of them
don't give a damn by the NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Not one of these people have come out and said
the game is rigged.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So how dare you come out and basically say that
this game is scripted and rig I just think it's stupid,
and I think you need to go somewhere with that,
enjoy the game or just move on, you know what
I mean, or just move on talking about that.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I just I don't like it. So I saw all
I had to say that death to all those were
not necessarily death.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I mean, he's going in maybe maybe.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Maybe maybe just stop watching it. If you feel like
it's rigg, just stop watching it because it's not for you.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I get people looking at it for the entertainment value
and all that type of stuff like that. I understand that,
you know, the NFL is bringing in people and they
care about so I get all that. But when you're
talking about the NFL is rigg. You're talking about it scripted.
I'm like, that is some of the dumbest things I've
ever heard. And I had a good friend of mine
when I was watching the Super Bowl that was making
it less enjoyable because every other see I told you
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this is rig man. Look, Patrick Mahomes does make that throw.
He threw interceptions. So, but what you say at the
end of the game when they actually won the game,
was it supposed to go in overtime? Was San Francisco
is supposed to kick that field? What party missed that
open receiver because Chris Jones came in unblocked. I mean, like,
was that all scripted for them? So? San Francisco and
the disappointment and the pain that you see on those players'
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faces at the end of the game. The Baltimore Ravens
the week before, Detroit Lions and their long suffering fans.
You think the Detroit Lions would purposely blow a seventeen
point lead a team that's never been to the Super
Bowl before, you know what I mean, and blow a
seventeen point lead in the come on.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Are you well? You know?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I will okay, I will say, I will say I
understand why people think it's ricked, and I'm gonna share why.
It was so many people that before this particular game,
once the two teams were set, that said exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
How the game was gonna go.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So those people already feel like, not that they have insight,
but I think it was a storybook ending for a
storybooks story that has the media has enjoyed telling. So
that's why most people before the game even started were
felt very confident in saying, you know what, the forty
nine ers are going to be in the lead, the
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majority of the gay the Chiefs are gonna come back toars,
He's gonna go to overtime, the Chiefs win.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yet, you know, but that's any you know sports movie
we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's the same difference in anything that seem to have
a storybook ending. Most of us aren't having a storybook experience,
so we look at way, I already knew the prince
was going to show up and save the princess, so
this probably had to be delivered in a different way.
I personally have had a lot of storybook experiences in
my life that if I look back now, I'm like, look,
I'll tell you the story. I don't know if you're
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gonna believe it, you know, And so sometimes those moments
are hard for people to believe, especially if they haven't
personally experienced a lot of storybook moments.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I think obviously the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is happy that it turned out the way it did
because that's probably and has already equated to that many
more viewers, that many more fans, that many more dollars,
and at the end of the day, the NFL somehow
is a nonprofit, but it is a profitable company. The
teams are in it to make money, the players are
in it to make money. I don't think the games
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are rigged. However, I do believe that a lot of
the marketing around how people consume the games is just
like a reality show. There's a script These are real people.
We didn't tell them what to say and do, but
we put them in situations that we know the audience
is gonna fill in the blanks. And so I think
as far as the marketing and the telling of the
story of the NFL is, particularly the Kansas City Chiefs,
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all of the things outside of necessarily what was on
the field was created and presented for people to feel
a certain kind of way, good, bad, and otherwise.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's on you how you feel about it. But all
of us were supposed to feel the triumph of the
football captain and the homecoming queen kissing at midfield. Great.
Couldn't have written it any better.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's the thrill of viy thory,
the agony of the feed. I get that.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
And you can look at the San Francisco fort nineers
and say they blew a lead. Look, and each of
the Kansas City Chiefs three Super Bowl wins they overcame
ten point deficits. So you can say, hey, the Chiefs
gonna get behind and they gonna come back and win
and maybe winning overtime.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
A lot of people can think of like that. I mean,
Vegas has odds on the chances of that happening. We
get that maybe because the game is so good, because
the drama and the intrigue and the play is so good,
and the build up it's so wonderful. Maybe that's just
what makes the NFL the best product known to man
when it comes to sports. I mean, it's the biggest
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product in the world outside of soccer across the world.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You're talking about here in the United States.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It was the most watched television show in American history,
one hundred and twenty five million people.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Now that did have a tailor swift effect, I will
say that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
And yes, is the NFL inspect and the usher effect.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And the effect definitely the usher effect. We'll get to
that in a second. So does that happen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Does the NFL love the fact that we're actually even
talking about They even did a commercial at the beginning
of the season talking about how the game could be
scripted or whatever. But that just tells you how wonderful
it is. This product is so good, it's so unbelievable
sometimes that people think it is an NF that it
is a Hollywood script and that is just really a
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testament to the end.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But as far as like made.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Up as far as like the players in on it,
because the players got to be in on it, if
it's going to be scripted, if it's fixed already.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Right, that's not true. That's not the case. Vegas would
not allow that.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
To happen, to be quite honest with you, and I
know the NFL in Vegas, you know, because of everything
that's going on right now with the betting across the world.
Like I think forty states up to forty states are
legal betting when it comes to sports betting around in
all the states and whatnot. But at the same time, no,
it's not, man, they're not losing that kind of money.
Somebody would be in on it when you're talking about
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betting some of the players. That's why when the players
bet on the games, guess what happened. They get suspended.
James and Williams got suspended. I can't what the receiver
down in Jacksonville got suspended for an entire year because
of betting on the game. So if they already knew
what was going to happen in the game, don't you
think they probably be rich by now having some of
their friends rich by Now that's not true. So let's
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start with this whole rhetoric, man, and it just enjoyed
the satisfaction, the entry, the drama of the National Football
League because once again it showed you, just like it
did on Sunday, why it's the best product, hands down.
I love the NBA hands down when it comes to
sporting events across this world outside.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So I feel like we've already talked about the NFL
and football too long, so too back to the real
story the Usher console. So it was much talked about
and a lot of those eyeballs were there strictly for Usher.
Mine included. Like I said, I didn't have a dog
in the fight. I didn't see the first half of
the game. I had was outworking, but I wanted to
make sure I made it to see Usher. And you know,
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my generation, we grew up with Usher, even though he
felt like a kid back then, and you know he
has that he had the residency in Vegas. It was
a kind of a condensed version of his Vegas show
with the roller skates and the special guests and.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Even a little bit of it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I noticed that I thought it was a cute wink
to the Keiky Palmer situation when it said it may
cause relationship issues. The warning at the beginning of it,
I was like, oh, that's cut, you know. And so
the actual show itself. Though I have friends who like
are ten years younger than me. Usher is their their person.
I'm an Usher fan, like Usher, but they were like
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sending me the Bengo cards and I was like, girl,
I ain't that into it.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I like to be entertained. I don't hear who it is.
I don't care like that.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So I immediately reached out to my friends who were
who have gone to Vegas to see Usher, who have
paid the hundreds and thousands of dollars. I haven't, but
I haven't done that. They all were happy, they all
were pleased out with the show. I thought it was
an entertaining show. I can tell I'm getting old because
my feeling was, who who is all these people out here?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And that's the pageantry and the performance of a super
Bowl show. You're gonna have a thousand people. You had
the band, you had the no it was a it
was a black Andy Black halftime show. I appreciate that too.
It was very atl You had the band, the hu
Jackson State, you had the Gapitos out.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
There with the canes.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I mean it was a It was a beautiful representation
of Usher's career, and it was a great callback to
where you were when these were hits. And I mean,
he's just been a high a high performing performer for
his entire career. I can't remember a down time for Usher.
He probably could tell you when he thought he was down,
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but he is an artist who has maintained his high
level of success and it makes the audience dance and
sing and oh man, who you have the baby with him?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
To chick on the side and this song every week
got involved in his songs.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So the first half was slow, which was understandable because
he did a lot of the confession stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But I'm glad he ended it with all that high
energy and all the dancing and all that. So I'm giving.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Usher, since he cares about this from me, a B plus.
And that's just only because a B plus only because
by the time I'm singing along, we already moved on
to the next song.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So that's not his fault. But it's just like, just
let us do the concert.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, but lets you know how many hits that Usher has.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
He had fifteen minutes to do all that and he
only got through maybe half a lot of people were
upset because he.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Didn't do this song. He didn't could could you not
do this song? Usher did his theme? Man, I thought
I thought Usher was flawless.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
I think Usher solidified and his spot as the unified
of the undisputed king of R and B for sure.
I mean, like you said, he brought the aid to
the world, the world to the A. He did his thing,
bringing out her playing the guitar, whatnot, even outside of
Jermaine Duprix, who I thought was Celo Green at first
when he came out there with them.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah he's getting online, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And the socks and all that stuff, the Louis vatmsause
he put out there. That's all good. But everything was wonderful.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Of course, Ludacris and Lord John coming out singing a
We knew that was going to be the showstop at
the end the show. But Usher killed it, man, he
really killed it. Now was it the greatest halftime show
of all time?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Even though to somebody, to somebody, to somebody.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
May to maybe his generation, but I'm old enough to
remember Michael Jackson back in nineteen eighty three when this
man had a stunt on the top of the Rose
Bowl and then he jumped out and he just stood
on stage for two minutes and people couldn't stop screaming.
I mean, that's how big Michael Jackson was at that
particular time. But then Prince down in Miami singing Purple
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Rain as the Rain is coming down to me will
always go down as my all time favorite because I'm
just a big Prince fan.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So I think it kind of goes with who you like,
and Prince.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Is my favorite artist of all time, followed by Michael
Jackson and then somebody like Ushers.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It definitely in my top five. But Usher did his thing.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
There was nothing that I looked at that I felt like,
Okay was over the top, wasn't good enough songs that
he sang.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Everything was great.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Alicia Keys coming out, I know people making fun of
her voice cracking or whatever it, but come on, man,
once again, I'm gonna talk about that and stop that
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But yeah, no, I would say for the venue, for
the venue, I would have enjoyed fewer slower songs because
it's a football game. It's excitement, and so I think
it's just an energy flow. Even as a performer on stage.
You know, you want energy because you're asking the audience
to participate. It's an exchange of energy, and so when
you're doing slower music and slower songs, you've kind of
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lulled your audience into a relaxation.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
We love the songs or whatever. So I would have.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Liked longer bits of the higher energy songs just because
it was an energy exchange and it's a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
But yeah, I thought it was a great show.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I think I think in addition to the special guest,
you know, I read that he asked Justin Bieber, and
Justin he was like, yeah, I'm not really feeling it.
But because of the associations and the collaborations Usher has
had over here, I mean, he could have asked twenty
five hundred people that we also love, and so people
got to be available, People got to want to have
the time and energy to rehearse, create that part of
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the show whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So it could have gone on forever. And I think
obviously we saw why those ticket prices with what they
were in Vegas. But I'm proud of.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
As as great as what as he did, and he's gonna, uh,
it's gonna pay dividends for him, because you know, these
Super Bowl performers don't get paid. They a lot of
times they put in their own money to actually help
out with production. I think The Weekend a couple of
years ago put in seven million dollars of his own
money for production. But it's on the back end of
what they get when it comes to streaming sales and revenue.
And of course Usher's about what he's about to put
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out another album or something like that, or going towards something.
So it's definitely gonna pay dividends for him because he
was seeing around the world. But the I guess the
the elephant in the room is what everybody's been talking about.
Even though he killed the performance and it was flawless
in my opinion or whatnot, people still gotta be messy.
People still got to bring up certain things whatnot.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So let me ask you this question, Wait, what are
people being mess What's what's the mess? What's the mess?
What's the mess?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh? The mess?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
The mess?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Because you kind of brought up the Key Palmer situation
with Usher and Alicia Keys.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Alicia Keys is being married at the Swiss Beats or whatnot.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But see, I don't process that as a mess. I
process that as that's entertainment. I think that's cool. They
made a little nod. They knew it was something that
came out the Usher. You know, everybody knows Alicia Keys
is married. I don't think Usher was being inappropriate whatever,
you know. I think that's entertainment. I think that's fun
little winks to I know what y'all gonna talk about,
this is fine.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Agree with you.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
What I'm saying is the mess is the reaction to
what was happening, like, oh, that's a married one, man,
I'll do it once again. It was the same thing
with the Kiki Palmer situation. Everybody's coming out and talking about, oh,
Swiss beasts got to have something to say, and Swiss
Beasts even came out and said basically, entertain I'm not
even gonna dress stop and stuff like that. They are entertainers.
They are entertainers and they are secure. Just and I understand,
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like you have an opinion like if you wouldn't let
your woman do it, but your woman ain't Alicia Keys
and your man ain't Usher. So if you got a
problem with it, man if if Swiss beast doesn't have
a problem with it, don't worry about it. Now, I
understand what the whole Kekey Palmer situation with Darius coming
out and all that stuff, and people get he came
out and made a big deal out and said something
about it or whatever, and Kiki disagreed or whatever. Then
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it kind of leads to a conversation whether you like
it or not. But if you're in an entertainment business, whatnot,
and if it's something probably that they've hurst or whatever.
And even though Alicia kind of looked like she was
kind of caught off bar by it, but Usha was
in the moment and it was not disrespectful there. I'm
pretty sure they're really good friends. And I'm pretty sure
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once again Swiss beats her husband had no problem with it,
even came out and said it had no problem with it.
Why should we have a problem with it If the
two people who are married don't have.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
A problem with it, I'm asking you, right, But again,
I think I think people who again offered those opinions
online or felt a certain kind of way about it,
like you said, aren't married to entertainers, don't understand the power.
I mean, that would be the same difference of any
movie you watch and somebody's kissing, you know, or how
many red carpets that the star co stars are standing
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next to each other, or you know, you want to
see that chemistry and that playful banter. So that's not
what I would consider mess for me, the mess that
I had noticed. More, what is it messy for Beyonce
right after Usher's performance to drop that Verizon commercial and
not just drop the Verizon commercial, drop new music, Because
it is very equivalent to proposing at your friend's reception. Now,
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you probably have talked to your friend, You probably have
sad to your friend. Hey, you know, you've been a
part of our relationship. I would love you know, and
more than likely I would assume. I know it doesn't
always happen, but I would assume when you see those
moments when someone proposes at somebody else's wedding reception, they've
talked to the bride and groom, and the bride and
room said, oh my god, that would be so much
fun doing.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I would hope, Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The same way, I would assume uh Sha and Beyonce
have collaborated their peers in the industry that by the
time she's talking to him about the Super Bowl, that
she says, Oh, I'm dropping music. He probably was like, Yo,
that's gonna be so dope. That's been okay, cool, cool, cool,
let's assume era all everybody's fine. The perception was everybody
was talking about Beyonce and not us. Sure and not
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when I say everybody. Obviously we were talking about the
performance and what we like to what we looked like.
But Beyonce took over this sh show from there like
about thirteen seconds after we went. After that, and then
we have moved on.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You're talking more about the timing.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
That's timing the timing, because it was very similar to
why it seemed weird when Taylor Swift accepted her Album
of the Year award that she announced her new album,
because it's like, you're not in a room of fans,
You're in a room of peers, and so this might
not be the venue, and they they go had a
reaction that you would want them to have.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Those are your fans that are gonna be excited.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Obviously, anytime Beyonce has any kind of drop, hey, we
are here for it. We want to see it. We
know she is creative, she we know she's been in
the lab. The timing for her perfection. But was the
timing rude as far as business etiquette?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Nope, nope. I thought it was smart.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I thought it was Obviously it was smart, But was.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
This perfect because, like you said, people came to watch
the halftime show more people too.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I was.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I was watching a Super Bowl party and half of
the people at the already were paying attention to the game,
half them with drinking, playing cards, whatever whatnot. At halftime,
everybody was locked on that screen watching the Usher performance.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
And that was the Usher fan base, right, So that's
a musical fan base.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
As soon as that performance is over, guess what comes
on the next commercial, And it's product placement.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That's what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
As anytime you have ass anytime you buy any advertisement,
product placement matters where you put that ad at a
particular time.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
If you're watching Soul Train back in the day, that's
why you saw hair products, That's why you saw staysaft Fro,
you saw all those types of things. If you're watching
the game, you see beer commercials, whatnot. It matters where
you actually put your ad as well. So putting it
right after the Usher concert was genius by Beyonce. And
like you said, I'm pretty sure as a professional courtesy,
they probably had that conversation. And let's remember the reason
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why Usher, A big reason why Usher was even the
halftime performance, because a he's great, he's brilliant. He just
had the residency in Vegas, which was smart. But guess
who Beyonce's husband is, and guess what he's in charge of.
He's in charge of to have time entertainment. So hey,
this is what's gonna happen. Blah blah blah. Hey Beyonce,
you're putting this out. You got these new singles that
are coming out, just put it in right behind that
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or whatnot. And that's why she's the queen. And even
she had a commercial talking about breaking the Internet.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's what she wants to do, so right, sure, well
it was calculated, it was genius, It was brilliant. We
were all like, wow, we all ran the title and
the apples and nowload two new songs.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
We know that the new album coming out and all that.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yep, and also performing haveltime as super Bowl is one
of the biggest things a performer can do.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And so there is just this this.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Energy of and you know, Usher had a great day.
You got married, that day. You know, Usher really got.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
To bring that. I mean, it was I'm sure he
don't he has no qualms about the day.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
But I'm saying, as a professional, time and place perfection
for Beyonce brilliant. Also, I probably wouldn't have had a
choice to do it, because all of my advisors would
have said, oh, hell, yes we're doing this. But me
as a person, I probably would have been more hesitant
because I'm like, hey, I don't want you to feel this.
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My advisor's, my attorney, my husban, everybody's like, hey, this
ain't no feelings this business.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Let's go. And then yeah, it would have happened.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
So I'm saying I can imagine there were conversations about, hey,
I am known to break the internet. I don't want
this to take away from us shirt that you know,
all the things, and that's the thing about being an
artist and talk about you know, the back and forth
between who felt this and who felt that. There's emotions
that going to be being an artist an entertainer, and
(36:35):
it's also a business and so sometimes if your vibe
ain't gonna help my business, I might have to cause
some separation. Or my vibe helps your business Taylor Swift,
go and tell all these games. Hey, I'm gonna encourage
the connection. It happens all the time. I'm saying, brilliant
for business, brilliant for Beyonce. Excited for new music everybody's
(36:56):
talking about. I've seen all already, a bunch of really
cool covers from people in Nashville. I think it's gonna
be a great movement for her to kind of and
she's already kind of dipped her toe in the country
music genre anyway. It explains why she's been rocking out
these cowboy hats and all the last few apparents.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Because all of it was marketing. All of it was
a slow beat out.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
She had on a bolo tie, sitting there at the
super Bowl with the kind of the Dolly parton blonde.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
You know, so all of it, all of it. Nothing
happens by chance. Would I feel a certain kind of way.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Absolutely, if you're an usher, you feel a certain kind
of way.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yes, And no, I know Usher don't feel a certain
kind of way because he had an amazing day.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
It's a human. It's a human, not as an entertainer,
as a human, as a person.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Let me ask you, so, let me ask you a
question about the because you brought up somebody having a
wedding and somebody proposing at the wedding, which I think
sometimes could be wrong unless you ask somebody, right, would
you have a problem with somebody proposed at your wedding
if it was a friend of yours, a good friend of.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yours, If it's a good friend of mine, they've probably
asked me or her. If it's the dude, I would say,
you know what, I would rather not or I would
say I'd be cool with it. I've never been in
that situation, so I don't know how it would come
down to the friend, the guy, the wedding who I'm
you know, my husband would have to be. So it's
so many variables that I couldn't speak on that I
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don't know, but I'm saying I would hope anytime I've
seen someone do it, that they did have a conversation
with the bride and groom that it wouldn't take away
because that's the day that you didn't spend a lot
of money on. That's a lot of day your friends
and family there, and that is a day that you
get to be the focus. So anything that takes away
from that whether somebody else has on a white dress
where somebody brought their kids, just crying through the whole ceremony.
(38:38):
I mean, everybody got their cell phone out, messing up,
you know. So it's a lot of things that would
bother you that day, because this was the one day
I asked y'all to show up and look at me.
Anything outside of that, somebody could potentially have a problem.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
You know, that's always absolutely right. So this is the done.
There have been that podcast. I've never said this publicly.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
No, I don't know if I want you to.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
M I'm contemplating whether I should.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
If you're thinking that hard, they say, thank long, thank wrong,
don't do it.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
No, no, no, it's nothing bad. I don't think it's
nothing bad. But once again, this is when we speak
our truth. This is talking about situations. Being in that situation, right,
this is the whole premise of our podcast. We've been
in situations like that. I've been in that situation where
I've been at a wedding. So a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Know is that.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Obviously people saw me proposed to Cynthia on television at
her it was a wine opening something she was having
something when she was doing.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
She was unveiling something, and so I proposed there had
my kids there and all that stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I was on television. That wasn't the first time I
proposed to Cynthia. The first time I proposed to Cynthia obviously,
you know, like I said, we were in Jamaica and
we were scott diving or this first time she had
ever been parasit and whatever, and I asked her then, right,
I didn't have a ring, I have anything like that.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So it really wasn't a proposal to be quiet.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
It really wasn't.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
It really was so we could talk about that. We
can talk about. But that's the first time I said,
I know I wanted to get married again. So I
did that up there. I felt like that was a
once in a lifetime thing. I knew she wasn't ever
going to do it again because she was afraid of heights.
So I did it and then came down and we
told somebody, and it got back to the bride and
the groom who was a good friend of hers. Right,
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so we was at the reception and all that type
of stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Wait, wait, wait, I guess I missed the party story
that you were at a wedding when y'all went sky diving.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
No, so we was in Jamaica. It was a destination wedding.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So it was somebody else's wed.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Okaybody, okay, yeah, so we want Scott diving or whatever?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Did that?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Blah blah ask her and I said, I want to,
you know, spend the rest of I'm like, oh, that
didn't worry the officer. So during during the wedding all
that stuff like that, people knew about it. And at
the reception we was dancing, having a good time, and
the bride and the groom actually said something to me.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Like, why don't you do it here?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
And I'm like, I don't even have ring, not doing
anything like so I was contemplating the whole night, you know,
started drinking and all that type of stuff like that.
And then all of a sudden at the end of
the night, people just started looking at us and was
dancing together whatnot, and Brian and groom just kept saying
doing like this, and my dumb ass in a sense,
not dumb, but I was caught up in a moment
I only have a ring, just came down, got on
(41:22):
one knee and basically proposed this woman in front of
all these people at this person's wedding or whatever. I
felt bad about it at the time. I felt worse
because I didn't have rings, so it wasn't official. And
of course it wasn't official because the cameras weren't there
on as well, so it couldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
So so wait, why do you say it wasn't official
because the cameras weren't there many it wasn't were you
contractually obligated to propose on camera during that time frame.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Let's just say that.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
In the reality show world, it didn't happen unless it
was on camera. Okay, I'll just leave it at that
from what I understand. And then plus, once again, it
wasn't an official engagement in the sense because because I
didn't have the ring, wasn't ready for it, or whatever.
Just knew that that was the time I wanted to
marry or at the time. Obviously it didn't work out,
But we couldn't even tell anybody about it. As a
(42:09):
matter of fact, I told everybody who was filming. I said, like,
you guys, can't put this out. It can't be on
the internet, can be anywhere on social media or whatever,
because this would have been something I would have gotten
back to her people and then they would have been
upset about that.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
So, uh, but I can put it on my podcast,
I know.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
But let me tell any man that's listening, it is
not a proposal without a ring. It's a concept, it's
an idea, it's a moment.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
It was a moment. It wasn't proposed, it wasn't I'm
just saying it was a.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Public it was a public acknowledgment of your interns of public.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
So only reason I even said this is because we're
talking about how you know, Ussher had this, yeah, and
how Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Pretty much proposed at his wedding and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
So if we're going to talk about our own lives,
which I think we should, like we're opening up and
being transparent about that type of stuff like that, I
am not going to talk or give my pin in
one way or another on somebody else, knowing I've been
in similar situations and not tell you about it.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
So I think that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I think your people, everybody that was there did a
great job in not telling everybody that.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
That's another whole thing.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
But again, it came down to how the bride and groom.
Groom's relationship was with you. And that's why I said,
it's a case by case situation. It might be the
bride and groom introduced y'all and they're like, oh my god,
we celebrate, you know. Or it could also be you
know what this she's always been trying to upstage me,
our whole friendship, and now you know what I'm saying.
So it's so many different dynamics that go into every
time it happens that you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
But the overall thought is, don't wear no.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
White to nobody's wedding if the attire is not all white,
and don't go proposing.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Don't announce you pregnant at my baby shower.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Anybody's wedding again.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Oh do we get do? Is this on tape? Is
this recording? Is this recording?
Speaker 2 (43:52):
You?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Wait again? This thing on this thing on?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Believe this?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
We ever, ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Let me tell you why I know this is not true.
I can't I can't leave you just said that on camera.
Because people who get married get married, and people who
don't get married don't get married.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
You will get married some of mine.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
You like getting married, You like getting married.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I like trying.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Again again.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
No, I mean no, no, I just don't think it's life.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
That's not a bad thing. I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Get married. I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I don't know that I will get married.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
I'm not anti marriage at all, but it's not even
something that I think about or that i'm pro or anti.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's not even a thought, right.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
But I will say historically I have friends who I was,
I was in their weddings whatever, but I've been in
multiple weddings. And then I have friends like me who've
never been married. I ain't never been a nun of
their weddings and so and it's import you, like you
know what, people who get married, or you can look
at anybody who has had multiple marriages, they are going
to get married because it's something about people who get
married will meet people who will get married to them
(45:11):
till you do right by me, and y'all gonna keep
finding each other and y'all gonna keep getting married.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Oh, I can't wait. All right, let me say this
one last thing.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
A lot of times it's hard to enjoy the Super
Bowl commercials, which is another big pull to the game,
because you got people talking and you watching the game
or in and out drinking talking about anyway.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
A couple of commercials were highlights to me. Obviously. The
Dunk Kings Dunk Kings Donuts commercial was really great with
Ben Affleck, j Lo, Matt Damon.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
The reason why I was great is because I like
when people are able to laugh at themselves. And so,
you know, the media's perception and the way folks talk
about Brad Brad Pit Ben Affleck being miserable or looking
bored or whatever, that's just his resting bitch face. I
understand it well. And I love that they were able
to make this whole campaign. I like that everyone, I
like the j Low was able to you know, come in.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
So I love that for what it was.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
A couple of weird commercials. Mark Wahlberg has a prayer app.
Mark Warburg. Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Mark Wahlberg is a devout Catholic and there is a
prayer app that had a Super Bowl commercial, and I
don't know, I understand he's one of the co founders
of our ms and all that.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
He's just a weird face for it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
And I'm not saying I'm not judging somebody's walking journey, right,
but I'm just saying, Also, we naturally have associations for people,
and so that's why you do have people promoting certain things,
because you have an association with them for certain things.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So that was interesting. It's it's been out this particular
app because I looked into it.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I can't take the name of it now, Hallo, halloed
or something like that, and I think it's one of
the only prayer apps, Catholic prayer apps, so it's.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Like number one on the rankings. But I thought that
was an interesting commercial for Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
And then cedar Field had a little situation because there
is a It was a commercial about a father, a stepfather,
and his daughter. The stepfather is white, the step daughter
is black, and it was about them. Hello, thank you producer, Chris.
The app, the prayer app, it's called Hallo. So this
commercial for Cedaphil is like pools on the heartstrings and
(47:22):
has this dad and daughter bonding over Taylor Swift and
football and you know, now the daughter wants to watch
the games with the dad and all that. Well, it
was completely ripped off from a TikToker who had already
made these videos. So when people saw the commercial, they're like, oh,
my god, this TikToker we followed this is your story?
Did did ceafhel pay you off of this?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Well?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Ceeda phil the first came out and said, oh, we
just found out about her today. That's so cool. She
had a similar story to our commercial.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
And everybody on TikTok was like, absolutely not a white
step dad, a black girl. She's been doing these videos
for months and now we see a commercial just like
this with the eyepatches on it, and everybody was like,
oh no, cedar Field know you will not. And then
the next thing, you know, the daughter and the step dad,
they came out and did a video like yeah, Cee
the Field, that ain't really cool. The next few hours
(48:12):
you got a commercial, a TikTok video from this daughter
and her stepdad saying with the hashtags Cee the Field
partner Ceearfield, thank you for doing right by us.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
We can't wait for you guys to see more with
us in cedar Field. So subsidy.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Executive somebody who writes these commercials saw that, and you know,
it's the same thing with jokes stealing.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
They feel like they can get away with it.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Let's just take bits and pieces of it and make
it into the DNA because they're under pressure.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
They can't come up with something. So this is cute.
They'll never know, but I.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Give them points. They rectifight it quickly.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
You know, they first tried to say, oh that's cute,
we just found out about her today.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
They erectifight it quickly. So that's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Do right by them in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Why did they have to go through hoops and jump
through hoops and do all those types of things and
hurdles and all that. Do right by them in the beginning,
Say hey, we like this, we want to take this,
we'll steal the ad, we'll give actors, but.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
We want to give you credit for it. We want
to give you money, we want to compensate.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Do right by people in the beginning, and not do
it on the back end, because I'm pretty sure they
still don't get it, because you know how much it costs.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
To do a Super Bowl at all that. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure they're not getting a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
They're getting some money, they're being compensated, but the kind
of money that they probably should have been getting probably
doesn't correct.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
But you know what it and we're here, they're here.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
They're only doing it because they got caught. That's it.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
But you know what the thing is, that's the whole
thing with the Internet and specifically comedy. Most comedians won't
upload anything outside of CrowdWork because you upload some joke
somebody and hoboken New Jersey doing your whole set, and
if they hit with it, then you look like you
stole their joke because no one ever heard you say it,
because they weren't sitting there at the crowd when you
did it. But it's one of those things where with
social media, TikTok, anything that you put out publicly right
(49:56):
there is this I don't even want to say risk,
but you you are offering something for everyone to consume,
and unfortunately you don't always get compensated right for being
someone's inspiration a lot of times right And so it's
a very slippery slope because you know, it could be Okay,
(50:16):
I had my dog singing a song and I put
it on TikTok and then I see a commercial with
singing dog.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Was that based on mind? Yes or no? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
So it's always can always be disputed. You know, when
you write a script in Hollywood, you have to sign
a release before they even look at your script that says, hey,
we may have already been working on something that was
just like this, and just because you're sending this to
us and we make a movie they look like this
don't mean you can come back and sue us and
say we took care of movie. And if this does
go to arbitration, you only gonna get a thousand dollars.
(50:45):
I've signed several pieces of paper like that, so it's
one of those things that it happens. I'm glad see
to feel rectified. They did try it. They tried it,
but they rectified it pretty quickly, and I'm happy and
excited for that particular creator. And that's the way of
the world of advertising. You have these multi million dollar
commercials and a lot of them are featuring influencers being
inspired by just people in their homes creating content because
(51:07):
they're seeing what regular people are reacting to that. They
still probably gonna get a celebrity and paid them a
bunch of money to do it, But keep creating, Keep creating.
People are watching. Hopefully they will credit and compensate, but
know that people are consuming you.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Keep sharing.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I love it. That's good stuff. That's really good stuff.
Good commercial.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
I didn't see a lot of the commercials either, because
actually I was doing a party whatever and people were talking.
But I did see the Dunkings. I saw the bet MGM.
I'm a Tom Brady fan. I love Tom Brady. I
felt like because he wins everything or whatever. So I
thought that was pretty good. And the Honor schueshnega, that's
honor that your nay by I So I thought that
State Farm commercial was pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
But yeah, wait, and I have to say it rising
with Beyonce, that's a given, Okay, that one put that
on that.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Yeah, look, breaking the Internet, she still blaks the internet. Man,
anything she does, she breaks the Internet. Like I said,
Beyonce is the most powerful force on the face of
the earth. Once again, I said it beyond he can
get an arena or stadium full of black women to
shut up.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
I don't know why he's gonna repeat this. He said
it in the first episode. They let him lay up.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
Ya.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
He's testing, he's testing faith.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
He's testing face a bad thing to shut up and said,
but hey, but other black women get mad when y'all
don't shut up.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
When Beyonce tael y'all to just you.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
But it's not shut up. That's what we said in
the first episode. It wasn't about show. It's called Mute.
It's a song. It's not about getting black women to
shut up different different things. Anyway, Stop that. I'm not
gonna let that be my stop that, but stop that.
But leading into this week, stop that. You know, Patrick
Mahomes winning the Super Bowl is now obviously and me
previously has been in the goat conversation of QB's uh obviously,
(52:39):
Tom Brady I think has held that title undisputedful quite
some time. Rightfully so, and so I want people to
stop immediately comparing everyone's greatness to someone else's greatness and
just let everybody be great on their own. It's one
of those things. Obviously, you know, we were talking about
the halftime show. You don't have to compare halftime shows
because who whatever show was your least favorite, was somebody
(53:00):
on the planet's favorite show, you know, And so people
will argue with strangers on the internet about who's favorite.
It's like you don't get to pick other people's favorite
or think they're wrong because your favorite was their favorite.
But also with athletes. You know the Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Commy,
that Kolby. Just let people be great. Now, the stats
will line up, and if you just want to go
(53:21):
stat for stat or whatever. But then when you look
at stats and you're looking at different errors, you're looking
at different rules, you're looking at different things that that
may have affected stats and what people got. Just enjoy
what you enjoy, and you don't have to make a
list to enjoy it. You don't have to be first
on the list for you to love it. It don't
have to be fifth on the list for you to
love it. It could just be something you enjoyed and love.
Somebody did something great, congratulate them. You don't need me
(53:42):
to have to start arguing about who's the best.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Also, goats, I.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Feel like goats are something that time establishes. I don't
think we have to keep establishing goats in real time
every other week. I think we let history dictate that.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
And that feels subjectively.
Speaker 4 (53:59):
I feel about the whole Patrick Mahome situation when Tom
Brady's like, Okay, he's one. Eventually, maybe he will become
the goat, but come on, tom Brady's still there. And
I said the same thing about Tom Brady when it
was Joe Montana he was still playing. I thought Joe
Montana was to go until Tom Brady overtook him. So
Tom will take it. Lebron could eventually be the goal
of the NBA as well, who knows. But let's stop.
Like you just mentioned, just because somebody's else's opinion is
(54:23):
their opinion doesn't necessarily mean it's your fact. We're not
saying it's your fact, it's their opinion. And nine times
out of ten you have asked them for their opinion.
That's one thing I hate about being a sportscaster sometimes
is going into a barbershop and somebody saying, oh, Mike's
on Televis's sportscast and they asked me my opinion about something,
and my opinion does not align what they're what they
(54:43):
feel like is their fact, and they want to argue
me down. Look, and you don't have to tear somebody
else down just to build your person up. You can
just say, hey, you know what, Okay, I hear you
what you're saying there, but make a case for your guy.
And that's where I come to my stop there, man,
Just stop buying into the ignorance of us tearing the down.
It's happening so much in twenty twenty four man black comedians, especially,
(55:06):
we have just been.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
On a rampage.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
The older black comedians have been on our rampage started
with Kat Williams whatnot. And I understand people have gripes.
I understand people have their issues with other comedians whatnot,
and sometimes they want to come out and tell the truth,
and that's wonderful whatnot. But when we start doing it
and it becomes a trend, and other comedians started looking
at it, like Monique just came out and did the
same thing or whatnot, and she's very sweet, don't get
(55:29):
me wrong, behind the scenes whatnot, and she starts tearing
other people down and rehashing things that happened two or
three years ago. We have got to stop doing that
because I think we're destroying not only us as family,
but us as a culture or whatever. And guess what
people are doing that don't look like us. They're laughing
at it at us. Who needs white supremacy when we're
doing the damn good job of actually tearing each other down.
(55:52):
So we need to stop buying into the ignorance as well,
because what's happening now is, like you talked about, people
have an opinion, and now you're starting to take size.
So if you like Kevin Hart before, but because Cat
William said something about Kevin Hart, now you can't stand
Kevin Hart because he did this, you just automatically gonna
believe that. So we got to also stop buyding to
the ignorance, and we need to encourage and promote some
(56:13):
positive talk, some positive thinking, and positive rhetoric that's out
there about us. So I pray that we will stop
tearing each other down as we continue to go on.
Because we're only halfway through February of twenty twenty four,
we still got ten to half once left. I can
only imagine where we're going to be if we continue
to do what we've been doing at the pace we've
been doing it so far in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
So please stop that.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
I think that's all we got for this week. I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
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be a gatekeeper, don't be greedy, don't be selfish. Share
us with your friends and loved ones. If you care
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Speaker 3 (56:58):
Love you for it. Fall back them men, fall back,
fall back, all right, retreat, retreat.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
I don't like things about your units. I hate it
when they.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
See that that, hey, look how many screen names Mike
Keel got over there.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
Anymore?
Speaker 3 (57:13):
But I like that people are engaged. I like the
people are engaged.
Speaker 4 (57:17):
You can tell me how right I am and how
great I am on this podcast without putting units down.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
You don't have to do right. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I don't think that's what's happening. I don't think that's
what's happening. But but the thing is, I don't mind
the engagement. I'm just saying, let's try something different sometimes.
But I enjoy the engagement.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Make sure you like, subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, share,
keep commenting, and until next week, we'll go somewhere and
do something and be something.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
Okay, that's done, there been that be.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Somebody great done, there have been that. Peace. See next
week
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