December 20, 2023 • 48 mins
Join Eunice Elliot and Mike Hill as they unpack Draymond Green's suspension, providing perspectives for balancing work demands while protecting your peace.
They aren’t stopping there! The conversation shifts to Tyreek Hill's paternity situation, where they discuss the importance of personal accountability and the impact of open, honest communication in relationships.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is the inflection collective parler for us, A connected, reflective,
real live perspective, perspective, defensive shit shad, no.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Cap despect facts of kick back. Here for stun there
been that.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's time for another tantalizing episode of Done there Been That.
I'm Unis Elliott.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Mike Hill. Tantalizing. I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We have been tantalizing a little bit over the last
couple of weeks, the first two weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Happy to be here with your Eunis.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I'm super excited to be back here with you again.
Mike shout out to everybody who has been listening to
the podcast. We're just in week three, so that means
we are just getting started. I have been enjoying the feedback,
positive and negative. I will say overwhelmingly positive. As far
as hey, we enjoy these kind of conversations. The negatives
I handled in might stop doing that last week, what
(00:49):
about you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's a thing about the negatives, the negatives of code
the territory too, because a lot of times when you
have an opinionated show, people aren't going to agree with you,
and they have a certain way of telling you they
they don't agree with it. So I'll look at the
negative as somebody like you got your opinion, your opinion
ain't really worth it down, but you still have rights
to your opinion. But like you said, I focus on
the positives too, because I've had a lot of people
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that have come up to me just out of the blue. Ay,
I love your podcast with you and you and this
y'all killing and keep on doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So that's just two weeks in, so let's keep this
thing rolling.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And I understand we actually, I think Inflection Entertainment of
Network likes us because now we got our own YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Now we have our own YouTube channel, We do done,
there have been that make sure you subscribe, so that way,
if you're not just driving listening to us, you can
also see us.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I feel like over the last couple of weeks and
people that don't understand our background, we actually had a
conversation about this. I'm just gonna let people behind what
do they call that the curtain a little bit. The
two of us have been knowing each other for over
twenty five years, but a lot of people don't know
that we don't know each other like that because we
don't conversate a talk over a period of time. We
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have just known each other for a long period of
time in places here and there. So I think some
people may look at the back and forth that we
have and misconstrued. We might even misconstrued a little bit too,
but we had a conversation about that, and I just
want to let everybody know that Eunis is a phenomenal woman.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
She is talented as hell. I am so proud of her.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And just because we disagree sometimes does not mean that,
you know, we don't care for each other. I don't care,
which I don't know if she says to her friends,
but I tell my friends that, yeah, she's still she's.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Still my people.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
What Mike said, I think, you know what, I think
people aren't well versed in healthy discourse, and so I
think a lot of times, especially on social media, whenever
someone shares an opinion, people don't I don't think have
a grasp on the art of being able to have
a healthy discourse, meaning I might not agree with you,
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but I'm not going to attack you personally, I'm not
going to be offended. I'm a very empathetic person, so
I can usually understand everybody's point of view, even though
I have mine, and it doesn't mean I agree with you.
I can say I understand why you feel that way.
I don't feel that way, but I see how you
came to that. And I'm not going to argue with
anybody about their feelings. But anyway, talking about feelings, yes,
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talking about feelings, talking about emotions, talking about mental health.
I think nowadays it's less of a stigma, but we
have been so far behind addressing mental health and I
think sometimes when you even use the term I need
to focus on my mental health, people think something's wrong.
When that doesn't necessarily mean something's wrong. It's just like
if you said you were going to the gym, it
doesn't mean you're sick. It just means you're working on
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your physical health. So we're going to talk about mental
health a little bit right now with our first topic,
which is Draymond Green. He has been suspended and by
the NBA for is the suspension for the last offense
or do you is it an accumulation of offenses?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Why he has been fore.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
An accumulation This is the reason why he got suspended
in death. Draymond Green has had several suspensions throughout his career,
including in the NBA Finals, He's been ejected out of
three games out of the fifteen case he's played. One
time he got suspended earlier this year for choking Rudy Gobert,
and then the last one Usef Nurkish, where he just
basically turned around and beat hit not the hell out
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of him, just for simple purposes there. So yes, it's
an accumulation of his past behavior the reason why he's
been suspended. And definitely now there's a report that came
out today that said that he might be out up
to three to four weeks because he has started counseling
and he understands that his behavior can't continue to go
if he wants to continue to play in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So that's the start, and.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that's all we can hope for any of us
is that we recognize there is a challenge or an issue,
and that we seek things that can help us adjust
those challenges. I think what's interesting about Draymond's situation though,
and it's how it segues into life. I've seen people,
you know, say that, well, just because he's like that
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in a game doesn't mean he has a problem or
that he needs to get counseling. Some people say some
people are just fiery and competitive. I have known athletes
who have been ordered to get anger management by their
team because there's a fine line, or there isn't such
a fine line. Everybody out there that's an athlete, you're competitive,
you're hungry, you can taste the blood in the water.
You want to finish him. I think that's all understood.
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It crosses that line, though, and I think what's concerning
to me about Draymond and it makes me curious about
how does he handle challenges and frustrations personally ain't my business.
I will make no assumptions. But when you have already
been ejected, got as many technicals, you know the eyes
are on you anyway for your behavior. If you can't
control yourself in the next moment, in front of an audience,
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in front of a crowd, in front of TV cameras,
it makes you wonder, like, how is he handling his
challenges in private?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
M Yeah, well we also saw it.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But does it not make you under.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That certain things that he's handling even behind closed doors,
even when he's not on television. I mean, remember he
got suspended by his team just last year for knocking
the hell out of pool, you know, his teammate who's.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
No longer at practice right at practice in the video.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I mean like people in his life, like family members, Yeah,
like in private you know, is he the guy that
you don't want to play cards with because he's gonna
be ready to fight everybody at the party. Like, I'm curious,
how does that translate in his personal life outside of basketball.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
We haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I mean, from what I understand, I've been around Draymond
a little bit. I can't say I know him, but
I think we know of each other, and he's always
been cool. I think he just has this switch that
kind of comes on when he's in the heat of competition.
We see it when it comes to entertainer sometimes. You know,
people like beyoncey Prince, they were introverts. Prince was an introvert.
Beyonce he's an introvert, but when she gets on stage,
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she becomes Sasha Fierce and she gets into that moment.
I think with Draymond, like you mentioned, there's a competitive
spirit that he has that people he needs. He needs
that edge because although he's a great player and he's
good to his team, he's not an All Star or
All Pro caliber player, so he has to play with
that edge.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
But when it goes over.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The line where it starts not affecting just you, but
affecting your teammates and you're not available to your team,
then it's a little bit too far.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But we're talking about that edge.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So as a person that we've been here before, we
have different personalities. I know you have a personality of
your own, especially when you got into the broadcast industry
as a TV morning anchor. We've both been in situations where,
just like you was talking about Draymond, there are people
that want him to play with their fire. But where
is that line? And when people are trying to control you,
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how far do you allow them to control you? Because
I know I got plenty of stories over my twenty
nine year career, but I'm curious to know because you
came into the broadcast world and you were in Birmingham, Alabama,
and I'm pretty sure that when you got there as
a black girl in Birmingham, Alabama, even though it was
in a two thousands and whatnot, there was still viewers
out there that saw this beautiful, pretty little black girl
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with natural hair on the air and you may have
gotten some pushback because this is your style, this is
your edge, this is your personality, but your bosses are
telling you, hey, we need you to be a little
bit more of this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How did you handle that?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I will say I was fortunate and that it didn't
come from my bosses. It only came from the viewers.
Now I have colleagues in the business who have had
it come from their bosses, where like, hey, wear your
hair this way, or wear a wig, you know, if
you were natural or something. That's not my personal experience,
but the viewers would often let me know how they preferred.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I look.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It might be I don't like you in that color.
Oh you look horrible in that dress, you know, And
I think anybody that's fair game, right. So I never
really had an issue with it personally. But I tell
younger students and journalism especially, you know, if you're good,
they'll figure out how to accept what they're not used to.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
If you're great at your job, they.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
May have never seen anything like it, but it ain't
a conversation because I'm great at this. So I think
that helped me a lot in that I was brought
in as a personality hire, even though I had a
journalism degree, and even though I had this background in communications,
I had never been a TV news anchor before they
put me on the air, and so I think I
had that going for me in that I was there
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to be unique. And so sometimes it may have been
my hair. Sometimes it may have been my thought process,
it may have been a joke, it may have been
my take on a situation.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So that's not my personal situation. Now.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The viewers, they would call, they would send Facebook messages.
But the only time I ever had my company in
my last company talked to me was when there was
a lot of racial unrest in the country, and on
my personal social media I was sharing stories and situations
about black people being unjustly harassed or murdered by police,
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and some of the white viewers took exception and start
calling me a racist, bigot and calling the station and
things like that, you know. So even and when they
would talk to me about what I was sharing on
my personal page, I would say, I don't know that
you can regulate that, and being black is a human
interest story, you know, so you wouldn't say anything to
me if I was posting about rescuing a puppy or
if I was talking about cancer treatments. You can't say
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something to me when I talk about being black in America. So,
but that's probably the only time they ever tried to
call me at the office completely, if you're not counting
the time they called me in the office and I quit.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Other than that, never really got talked to about anything.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Oh, look, they called you in the office and you quit.
I got to hear that story.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well, that's the only reason I quit my job.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I did a comedy sketch and they were upset
that I didn't ask for approval or get approval, And
I explained to them, why would I get approval from you?
You pay me to exclusively be your TV anchor. But
I do stand up, I do you know, I write books,
I do all these different things. And they wrote me
up for doing all the different things, and at that point,
I said it was probably time for me to go.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, that's interesting because I've been in several situations like
that before myself. When I was I knew it was
time to get out of military. When certain people are
trying to tell me certain things or call me certain
names out of my name. Even though it was an
airmen you cannot treat me like I'm not a man,
and that was a big issue, so I knew it
was time for me to get out of there. That's
interesting that you say that, because throughout my career I've
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had several people and we know how it is when
you have these consultants who come in, especially these news stations,
and their job is basically to tell you what sucks
about you.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
What's wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And remember the consultants would not have a job unless
they can find something wrong with you. So they got
to find something wrong with you. It could be my mustache.
Do you necessarily have to have facial hair? Yeah, I
need to have facial hair. I want to be a
black man. You know it's okay. Oh do you have
to sound like this? Do you have to say certain
words like this? How about this? Do you fix your
hair a certain way? I know a lot of female
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colleagues get that. Female colleagues get that all the time
or whatnot. I call them insultants because it is their
job to insult you. But it doesn't just stop there.
Like you said, a lot of times, the viewers can
say certain things. But even when I was at ESPN,
I remember I got there.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Unit's I'm from Bestment, Alabama. I have a certain style.
I'm a black man, I'm a black journalist.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Whatnot.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
When I was in Dallas, I got fired because of that.
I was asked, do you want to be a sports caster?
Do you want to be a black sports caster? By
my boss being there, it was hard. Yeah, I've been
there ESPN. I remember I got there and I had
a certain style. This is the way I am well
I talked. They told me, hey, you want the reason
you're not moving up is because you're too ghetto. This
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is what a talent coordinator told me. He said, the
reason why you're not moving up is because you're too ghetto.
And we already have one of them. And this is
when the great Stewart Scott was already there. So I
can understand. There is a part of you that wants
to be free. But at the end of the day,
just like in the NBA of the NFL, there are codes,
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there are ethics, there, standards.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Is their way. They always say it's not it's not
what do they say? It is not a.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Right to play in the NFL or the NBA. It's
a privilege, And I think in some of these companies.
It's the same way. Not to say it is right,
but I lost myself because of that. So when it
comes to Draymond Green, there is a line that he
cannot cross because once again, it's not just hurting him,
but he's hurting the image of the league, hurting the
image of the Golden State Warriors. While I still want
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that fiery play, he's got to find out what is
the compromise so that he can play the way he
wants to play and be the man that he wants
to be. Like you said, we don't hear anything off
the court, which is a great thing, but at the
same time, you got to find out where that line
is and make sure you don't cross it. People like
me sometimes I'll get that line and I'll move that
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shit up like two be.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Move it up.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But I think even in Draymond's case, so I think
when we're talking about our expenses with an image consultant,
I remember one time an image consultant came in and
he saw my hair, my natural hair out and he
stopped the tape at the video and he says, are
you good enough to get away with his hair?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
That I am?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Continue he as was not good enough to get away
with it, you know. But but but you know, I
feel like that kind of goes more in the line
of they used to try to mandate what the athletes
wore for travel or for arrival, and you see they
kind of have backed off that everybody's got their own style.
They realize, hey, we don't need to tell the guys
they got to wear a collared shirt. College is still
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do it a bit to try to manage that. But
as far as Draymond, I think the line that I
don't think is that blurry that he keeps crossing is
you can't punch people.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah you can't, Ki.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I don't think that's up for a lot of interpretation.
I think it's hey, stop hitting people.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Stop doing that. We'll put Draymond and I stopped doing
that segment. Stop choking people, Draymond, Dang, you play too rough.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And I do believe that there is that once again,
like we want to support Draymond because we see that
edge and like you, like you mentioned, I think there
are certain things that you can get away with when
you're not on somebody's air, when you're not on somebody's court,
which I mean the NBA air, meaning the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
If you're playing pick up.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Basketball, we see that all I see fights all the
time pick up basketball.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
What are you saying if you're all the time in
hockey in.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hockey, but you know what that But they say that's
part of the game in high right, which I always
think is always that double standard. Because I'm not even
gonna go down that rabbit hole because I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Be called I saw the rabbit in the hole before
you at you.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Saw you already know where I'm going. But everybody out
there understands where I want to go with that.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But when it comes to certain leagues, when it comes
to certain organizations, like I said, there's a standard.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
We want you to be yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We want you to give that fiery attitude, we want
you to bring that passion. But when your passion crosses
the line, it's too much. When your personality crosses the
line is too much. I know we were both doing STA.
You've been doing stand up longer than I have. I
know certain things that I say on that stage. I
can't take that shit to fond sports.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I can't So I know I know where that limitation is,
and so as somebody that I as a fan of
Draymond Greens and a fan of anybody else who has
that kind of fiery attitude, like even Dennis Robbin back
in the day, I hope he can find it because
he's too valuable not to be on the court for
his basketball team right now.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And let me say something about athletes specifically, and I
would say transferable ideas, like you know, we can't say
what we say on stage in different settings. But a
lot of times athletes, especially if they've been athletic from
middle school, high school, college pros, they don't realize that
their colleagues and teammates they interact with them totally different
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than people interact with people. And I've seen athletes kind
of offend people because you can be talking so much
trash to your teammate. You can call him names because
it's a fun rapport. We're talking trash. You say that
to just somebody at the bank, it's like, oh my gosh,
he just told me to get out of face. You
could say that to your teammate, that's gone, you know
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what I'm saying. So it's sometimes it's those little moments
where it's like, hey, you're in a unique situation where
you guys go back and forth. You have this engagement,
you talk a certain way, you can trash talk. You're
on the same team, you love each other. But how
many fights do you get in football practice a day, thirteen, fifteen,
twenty five. But their teammates, it's because they're passionate, they're fiery.
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Maybe somebody covering them, maybe somebody you know, tackle them
too hard or whatever. But sometimes those communication tactics don't
transfer into just everyday world and people one time and
this is really dating me, but y'all, no, I'm grown
and sexy. But back when I was at ESPN, well yeah,
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but this was a thousand years ago at ESPN. John
Elway came up to ESPN for something, and everybody was
so excited, the great John Elway, and everybody's kind of
around him.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And the one thing I will.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Never forget is he was talking and at some point
he licked his hand and.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Rubbed his arm. I was disgusted.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Okay, now, an NFL quarterback, that's they licked their hands like,
but regular people don't just lick your hand. He's standing
there talking, don't keep in mind. I'm watching everybody's hands.
He's shaking, and I'm like, his hand.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He licked his hand.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It was like he was trying to like maybe get
something off his arm or something. But it wasn't even
a thought for him. But I've seen, you know, the
quarterbacks lick their hands before they called for the ball,
you know, behind it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because they want to get a better grip on the football.
We get that. I don't know what kind of grip.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You, but I would never forget it. When he did that,
I was like, did he just lick his hand?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Did I shake it? Had he licked it before?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I shouldn't, but those are little things that if he
licked his hand on the football field, it would not
be a thought. Nobody wouldn't think anything about it. But
you said it in a TV studio, licking your hand.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I don't know. I was bothered.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But anyway, I've been doing the fist bump long before COVID.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So that's when that's safe.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
The bathroom when I washed their hands, and.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm sure it was probably yeah, it was a dude, right, Well,
I wouldn't the man tell I had it? Well, you
know some places have unisex restrooms forty forty has unisex restrooms,
you know. But I remember I dated a guy once
who introduced this idea at one of my company functions.
He was like, do y'all wash your hands every time
y'all go to the bathroom, because if I didn't get
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that on my hands, I don't want And I was
really sitting there like, wait, what is happening?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So everyone does you didn't touch anything here? Like, hey,
let me just take it out.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Hey, okay. I don't know how he was working that out.
It was a thing.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Okay, Mike, so anyway, but it's it's things in sports
that don't transfer spitting, Like, it's a lot of things
that just happened in the context of.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Sports talking about well you can't anybody.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Come on quit playing.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Athletes say come on, let's get it, get some hustle,
and its it's not a thing. But I'm saying, you
wouldn't do that if you weren't playing, you wouldn't just spit,
or you wouldn't you know. So it's a lot of
things that athletes do at work that do not transfer
into just being a human in polite, proper society. Yeah,
and you know, Draymond is not okay to choke nobody nowhere.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You can't choke nobody. No, well, depending on where you
can choke it, and you can get away. But somebody going
to come.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You see how you always you in these rabbit holes. Come.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I'm just saying, if somebody deserve to be choked, then
I get it. Somebody deserve to be punched, I get it.
But Jordan Poole, from what I understand, didn't do He
just talked. So anyway, Yeah, Draymond, what he's doing is
way over the line.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm oh the look, we're happy he's getting counseling. And
you don't have to get suspended to get counseling. Counseling
is a wonderful tool for any and everybody who has
a brain or a cart for a mind.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
He understands he needs to get so.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So once again, like you started this whole conversation, we're
gonna move on.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Mental health is a real thing. Does it mean that
you're crazy?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Doesn't mean that you're you're a bad person. Mental health,
when you go get therapy, means that you want to
make yourself a better person. I don't think anybody's called
Draymond Green a bad person because, like you mentioned, I'm
glad you brought up. We haven't heard anything about off
the court issues with him, just on the court behavior
whatever that needs to be addressed. So if he's going
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to therapy to make himself a better person, I think
all of us could do the same because no one
I know, I don't know about your units is perfect,
and we all need to do something that we can
do to better ourselves so that we can better ourselves
around other people as well.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, and I think there's always been a stigma around
therapy and counseling, particularly for African Americans. They like pray
about it, go to church, and then particularly for African
American men. So hopefully this might be some great, wonderful
opportunity for Draymond to kind of be a champion, you know,
go through the processes, learn institute more, you know better
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tools to deal with frustrations, and be an inspiration to
everybody to you know, figure out, hey, Okay, I have
these triggers and I'm not might not be handling the
best way either. It worked for him, maybe it can
work for me. So hopefully we will see a win
win win situation. From his challenge.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So here's something I hope doesn't trigger you as we
move on.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Oh god, the word trigger triggers me.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Actually, don't allow triggers to trigger you. Take away the triggers,
then you want to have the triggers.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Just don't say trigger. Just don't say trigger.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You know who Keda Vaccaro is. She is the wife
of Tyreek Hill from the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I don't know her personally.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Could be the NFL's MVP this year, having a phenomenal season.
Great though his off the field, it ain't like he
just got married, applaud that whatnot. And his wife is
very supportive of him. But Tyreek, I understand, just got
hit with two paternity suits by women that are claiming
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that he has given them babies.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Obviously he's paying them, understand.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
The report lead twenty five hundred dollars a month, and
the babies were both born this year and he's been engaged.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Now, I'm not gonna get too far into that man's
business about his relationship that he has with Keith of
Cairo and how.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Okay, let's see let me see what you have. Don't say,
let me see what you have to say all.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
All I'm saying is like, if you're in that situation,
how do you handle that?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Units?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean like, because obviously she got married, she still
supported him. As a matter of fact, when he got
injured last week, he said, the reason he went back
into the game, and I thought about this. It made
me think a little bit. He said he went back
into the game because he said his anchor was hurting
really bad. And he texts his wife then and said, hey,
it's hurting really bad. And she said, you need to
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get your ass back in that game. And made me think, okay, well, yeah,
you need to get your ass back in the game,
because she basically saying, you need to go make that
money so you can pay these women over here. You
get also hold on to me like he is under
the fourth year under the twenty million dollar contract out
to Tyreek Hill. If you got it, you can handle it,
and you're paying for m do your thing. But here's
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a question, and this is going to stay.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Did
you say if you can pay it and you handling it,
do your thing?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
If you if you can if you can pay it,
you handling it, and your wife. I can't say. I
ain't gonna say nothing. Who am I to say anything
about that?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's not my that's.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
My personality, So I can't. So whatever they got arranged,
that is totally on them. Now, I know most women,
I know what you know. But then also I don't
know a lot of women that's married to a man
that's making a hundred and twenty million dollars. I'm just
saying it. Could I think a lot of times.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Okay, So now all of this.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying you or
any of your friends. I'm saying I.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Been about me.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about Tyree. So
here's here's my question. And your introducing even the story,
you started out by talking about his wife, you even
called her by name. But this is not his wife's story.
This is a Tyreek hell story. But what people, society,
social media they do is they think, well, why would
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this woman marry him? Why is this woman saying staying
with him? We don't focus on the hymn that has
created this scenario. So this is actually a Tyreek heal story.
This isn't a Tyreek Hill's new wife story. This is
a Tyreek Kale story. He has three children with an ex.
He has these two new children. None of his five
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children are from his current wife. But even though he's
been with her, they've been engaged since like twenty twenty
one or so. So this is a Tyreek Hill story.
Because whether it's the new wife, whether it's one of
the two new baby mamas, or even the first baby mama,
you have to have some kind of understanding that Tyreek
Hill has probably not been honest with everyone in real time?
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Could we agree that that's probably true? Yeah, well, you know,
I'm asking, I'm just asking.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm asking.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Can we all say Tyreek probably has not been truthful
with if not one, if not two, if not three,
if not four of these women can say?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Because not definitively, because I don't know the arrangements with people,
like and that's where I was going.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
But just as a as a human, just as a.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Human thinking, I would think there has been some deception
there at one time or another.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I said, that's all okay, So that's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
So when people the women, they're like, why would she Well,
he's deceiving himself by making poor choices, Okay, and he
has to have probably again probably allegedly. I would assume
he has not been one hundred percent honest with his fiance.
I would assume he has not been one hundred percent
honest with either of these baby mamas who just had
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babies this year. And then it gets turned onto the women.
A lot of the headlines were like, you know, these
two baby mamas want their child support increase, and then
the gold digger labels start getting thrown out and all
those things, and it's like, but still, this is not
their story. This is Tyreek Hill's story, a situation that
Tyreek Hill created, a situation that financially, Tyreek Hill is
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being responsible for.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
These women are pretty inconsequential to the.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Whole story because guess what if it wasn't baby Mama
number one, two, or three, you would still have Tyreek
Hill making these type decisions and choices, there would be
three other women, because it's a Tyreek Hill story.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
His my response now for his wife, his wife, I understand.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Once again, I feel like in all of this, maybe
she's the one that you feel a little sorry for, because,
like you said, maybe there was aception.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Maybe Tyreek has that kind of relationship where he's like, hey,
you know I'm doing this. You know what kind of
person night? I got five kids already. My name is
the Cheetah. I mean, that's my nickname. So maybe that
just isn't just because I'm fast. I'm just saying I
don't know. I'm just saying, look at you, not that
I'm speaking about that, because you know, I'm not talking
about my bads.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
But anyway, so when it comes to it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I was gonna say talking about triggered, you talk about
triggered who in this story?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I'm not triggered. I'm not triggered about I understand. I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't answer to every label that it's I'm called,
but I understand I want one, always one.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Here's the thing. But when I look back, so we're
talking about who's to blame here or who's been deceived.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Not even who's to blame. It's not even about who's
the blame because I don't think this is about a
blame thing. Who's responsible for creating this scenario? Okay, who's
responsible for creating the scenario?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Who is overall?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Because he is the one. Obviously, he's the one that
common denominated.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
He's the common denominator in all these women's lives.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He's the one that married his wife.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He's the one that got these other legedly because I
don't I don't know if they had a paternity test.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What everybody I p's.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
They have an opperternity test. That's why he's paying the
twenty five hundred dollars a month. But now he wants
to dispute them, but go on.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So that could be court ordered and all that type
of stuff like that. And I understand he's signed a
four year UNDERD twenty million dollars. Okay, So what we
were talking about last week, So when it comes to deception,
there has to be and we're talking about cheats because
I actually had this conversation the other day. People want
to know women are always wearing a white man cheat.
I'm like, okay, well, there are numerous reasons why a
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man cheats. Maybe the question that needs to be asked
is what can stop a man from cheating?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Oh that's a really good question. That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Now let me ask you that question based on our question,
can you stop a man from cheating?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah? You know, how you can stop a man from cheating,
not you being cheated on? Well, that's one thing. Cut
it off, which continue to jail for a long period
of time?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Will lets you live in one of those countries that
allow you to cut it off if he's done something wrong.
I understand that, But how do you stop a man
from cheating on you? There is also another party that's involved.
So while a lot of the heat goes to the man, right,
while a lot of the heat goes to the man
because he deserves the heat, he's responsible, he's accountable, there
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is another side of the equation that allows him to
cheat if there was not that side, And I'm not
blaming them, so stop by No people want to come,
But if they also got the heat, the women who
are the side chicks or the women who know? If
you know no, you've seeing shake your head. You ask
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me the question, So I'm giving you the answer.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
There is the other side.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
So if you can stop that from happening and also
put the heat on them as well, maybe maybe it
would maybe it would decrease.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Let me ask you a question. If a man cheats,
who is responsible for him cheating?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's the man. He's ultimately responsible. Once again, he's the
common denominator. It's the woman. It's the woman or the
man whoever decides to cheat. They are responsible. They need
to take accountability.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay, well, you were.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Talking about the side chicks make it, make it available
to cheat. You're saying these women out here who make
themselves available to men who are in committed relationships. And
so I was trying to see where you offering some
responsibility on the cheating, on the women that they're cheating
with or the men they're cheating with, whoever is the
other person, do they bear responsibility? But how could that
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person who's not in the relationship be responsible for what
you do in your relationship.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Because your part is almost like if you're you're you're
an accomplished in a sense.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Like okay, so, but.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
What responsibility does a person who's not in a relationship
have to a relationship they're not in.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
What responsibility would they they bear a hole for that?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying no.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Look, so I understand a lot of people who become
the side piece or whatever. I'm ain't gonna say, side
check you, side piece, whatever. They don't feel like that's
part of cheating. They don't feel like that's their cheaters
or whatnot, right, So I get that, But there is
a bit of responsibility. If you know that person is
in a relationship, if you know that person is married,
if you know that person is committed in some kind
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of way, that person bears some responsibility in a sense,
not as much as the person who is actually cheating,
but there is some responsibility.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Because you know why, that would not stop a man
from cheating taking the other person out of the way,
because they'll find it there. Okay, So because then if
they are a cheater, they will find someone else. You're
not gonna eradicate the entire world of every option, right,
So you might know that this person wants your husband,
You might know that this woman right here wants my man,
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And you know that this is this woman, and you
get her taken care of however, you do it legally,
otherwise I won't ask questions. That is not going to
stop that man from cheating. If he's a cheater, he's
gonna cheat with somebody else. So you can't stop a
man from cheat. There's nothing a woman can do, sort
of murdering the dude that it can stop somebody who
is going to cheat, just like a man can't stop
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a woman who's gonna cheat if someone cheats. What I'm
saying is, if someone cheats, they are going to cheat.
If someone doesn't cheat, they don't cheat. And that means
it could be a naked woman laying on the couch.
They're gonna say, girl, cover yourself up and get out.
What I'm saying to you is the person this, the
side person has no responsibility in that cheaters relationship. How
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could they if we use Tyreek Hill's situation. I don't
know the two women he had babies with this year.
Do I think they knew he had a fiancee? Potentially
because I think they've been a public couple since at
least twenty twenty one. Do I think if they said, Hey,
I saw your Instagram and who's this girl?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Who's this woman?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Can we imagine a world where a man says, yeah,
that's not that or, as you say, misrepresent themselves. Can
we imagine a world that may have potentially happened and
two women ended up getting pregnant by him in the
same year having babies. Guess what everybody in the world
could say, Hey, I wanted a baby, my baby's gonna
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be well taking care.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I win.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Again, everybody has different motivating factors in their lives. At
the end of the day, there was only one pen
involved and so that is the pain responsible.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
So he takes all the heat, all the responsibilities. So
like you, we did the podcast last week talking about
how much you know, you said googling. People google all
the time and this and get your information. Girl, There's
no way in the world that these women did not
know this man was in a relationship engaged since twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
There's no way.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
And so let's say they knew he was engaged and
he still had sex with him and he got them pregnant. Again,
that is one hundred percent on him. That is one
hundred percent on him that he got these women pregnant. Either,
they discussed wanting to have babies together. Everyone knows how
to make a baby. So I'm saying to you, if
I'm the multi million dollar man with a fiance or
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a wife and whatever, and I don't want to have babies,
I'm the one that can make sure I don't have babies.
And I don't want to go into the science of it,
but I would know how to not make a baby.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Mm okay, So I'm just saying I'm not saying I'm
not disagreeing and saying that it's not the person's fault.
Not disagreeing.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Well, I'm not even saying fault. I'm saying he created
this scenario. He created the scenario.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Which we said one hundred you said one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
It is responsible.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Responsible is difference in fault because everybody could be happy
this we're on the outside. We don't know if both
of these women are happy. We don't know if we
don't know them, So fault makes it seem like someone's wrong.
I'm saying he's responsible for this scenario.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So one hundred percent responsible for that person. Okay, Okay,
I disagree.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah, he's responsible for the scenario.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yes, I disagree. I disagree as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You know what, here's the thing, So we're gonna we're
gonna start a poll if you, if you believe in yous,
are saying that the person who keeps is one hundred
percent responsible for whatever happens after that person.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
That's good. If there's another party's involved, not saying that
it's got to.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Be fifty to fifty. It might be ninety ten, It
could be eighty. But there is another party that's also responsible.
If I know you're going to rob a bank and.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I'm like, hey, I'll drive, and I'll drive you after
you Robbie Bank, and I still take you home afterwards.
Am I an accomplished? Am I going to use there?
I'm not responsible because I didn't rob the bank.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
But that's that's that's not really the greatest.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Analogy for this situation because as far as the standards
of the law, that's the standard that has been set
by the law that if you, uh, if you break
into my house and your two people break into my
house and the homeowner shoots the person that I came
in with, I'm gonna get charged with that person's murder.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So that's the standards that the law has set. Saying
to you is what I'm saying to you is when
a person cheats, it might be five people they cheated with,
it might be one person, It might be a person
they ain't even met yet did they looking to cheat with?
The cheater is one hundred responsible for the cheating. Now,
whoever they cheat with, it's collateral damage that they knew
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or they didn't know. But either way, they made no
commitment to anybody in that relationship. The person who's cheating
made a commitment we were married or we're engaged, and
maybe we've had a conversation of exclusivity is assumed. And
again we're assuming they have agreed to exclusivity.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
They maybe have not. That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's not a fault thing because everybody in the storyline
might be happy with their lot in life.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
We're just saying from the outside looking in, it sounds messy.
It sounds messy to have two babies in the same
year from two different women, that marry a different woman
and have three kids with another woman. Sounds messy. But yes,
what everybody might be happy in their situation. We don't
know that. But is the person who is impregnating people
responsible for impregnating people? Yes, one hundred percent responsible who
are impregnating people?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
No? No, no, no, So we're on two different things.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, cheating, cheating, too impregnate, cheating, too impregnate, cheating. Okay,
just so, these probably are not the only two women
he's cheated with. I don't know this man, but let's
just say these are just the two that had babies
this year, right, And so what I'm saying is, yes,
Tyreek is one hundred percent responsible for who he puts
his penis in. That's who the penis is being put in.
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They're there for whatever they there for. But it's too
many distances and Houston Sports. No, No, I'm not saying they.
I don't see no assault or cases. So I'm assuming
they said yes willfully. So that's not the question. I've
worked with a lot of athletes, and a lot of
those athletes have had baby mama drama or girlfriend drama
or stalker troubles and all the things. Right, But when
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you are put in a certain position in your life
where you're making millions and millions of dollars because you're
really great at something, you have to move mentally into
a different space to handle yourself in a more responsible
manner because you have so much to lose. So I'm
saying he is one hundred percent responsible for this scenario,
and it's unfortunate that the women will take the heat.
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Why does she marry him or what they gold diggers
whatever versus this young man is not taking great care
of his of this unique gift he has, or the
finances he had, and again they all might be happy
as a lark, you know, Nick Cannon and all his babies.
They're presented as if we all wanted babies we all
knew about, you know, so they present that like they're happy.
They're happy, and.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
We don't know if that's the same kind of scenario.
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Okay, So let me back it up because you know,
like you said, I don't know the situation. Obviously his
wife knows the situation and she's cool with it. What
we don't know the whole thing that could have an
open relationship, so there's no cheating even involved could be
in this situation.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So let's go back real quick before we go too
far down this rabbit hole, because I don't think we're
gonna agree on the responsibility aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
The child support payments that he's making.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's giving them twenty five hundred dollars, which I even
say for a man that's averaging making about thirty million
dollars a year, that's low for any child.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
If you got a child, should be paying a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I paid that much for child school and I ain't
never made thirty milli dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
So I mean that ain't even paying the rent for
a studio in most places.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Okay, I understand that, but what's the responsibility of child's boys?
Child says now, One thing I will say about this
is that you pay for your child. You take care
and you support your child and make sure all the
needs the wants of the child schooling, they got the
best housing or whatever, make sure they got transportation, sheltered
and all that type of stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
It's what when you get into the murky period.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Of child support from a man or women's standpoint, because
women have to pay child support too. So let me
just throw that out there to make everybody feel inclusive.
There comes a point where you're saying, I will take
care of the child, but I'm not taking care of
all of your needs, meaning I'm not taking care of
your girls trip to the Caribbean. I'm not taking care
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of you and your man and the house that you
want just because y'all got a four bedroom and I
think that's big enough with me and you and my child.
You live by yourself, you don't necessarily need an eight
nine bedroom mansion that costs ten million dollars.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Whatnot.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Now, if you want that your lifestyle should be part
of your child's lifestyle, hopefully you have joint custody so
that that person can be a part of that lifestyle
at some point. So when it comes to the point
of like I'm seeing you drive and the fancy is luxuries, cars,
whatnot and all that type of stuff like that, it's
just there is a murky water period, a line that
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needs to be crossed when it comes to how much
you're supposed to give a person for that child support.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Support the child.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Okay, so here's the line about here, here's the argument
about child support. Okay, it's the difference between when you
take your car to get worked on. There's two different costs.
You're gonna have parts and labor. Child support is parts.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, you know I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So then when people argue over the amounts, there's labor
costs involved in the parts.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
So you might pay for your kid to.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Go to private school, Well, who's taking the kids to school,
who's feeding the kid every day, who's driving the kids
to school, who's picking the kid up when they got sick,
Who's taking the kid to practice, who's picking the kid
up from practice? So I'm saying there's a labor involved
in raising children that is outside of the parts. Right,
So somebody might say, I paid for this, I pay
for this, I pay for this, I pay for this
wonderful that's a blessing. I'm a child who grew up
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without child support, but there was there's also labor involved.
Guess what if your child is with a custodial parent
and you're paying child support, that custodial parent has so
many more sacrifices and responsibilities than you have just for
sending a check. So there is a lot that is
involved in the cost of raising a child. And it's
not just a pack of diapers and some shoes.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well us, it's involved.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
In raising But I but you know, I don't have
children because I know how much that's the most important
thing anybody in the world will ever do, is raise children.
And so you can't you can't minimize that to a
dollar amount of this is what it costs to raise
a child.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
All I'm saying is there is a line that gets
crossed a lot of times, not with everybody, with certain
people that when they feel like this person's making that
child is not your check, that child is and they
treated that way. And I'm not saying these two ladies
in tweki those case whatever. I'm seeing a lot of
them all. But in a lot of ways, there are
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women and men who treat children like that is their check,
like this is an eighteen year investment plan, and I
got them, and a lot of reasons why they get pregnant.
Some people get pregnant because they say, oh, I got him.
We've heard the stories before, I got his ass. That's
why what do you think they get So I'm not
even gonna go too far and rabbits running again.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
They can definitely say I got them.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
But the only way you can get somebody is if
they put their pain inside of you and ejaculate while you.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Are understand, he's responsible. So he's responsible for.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That way, go back to that.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, it doesn't matter what the woman's motive is, he's
still responsible for it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Okay, Okay, I got you, I got you, all right.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Unless she stoles upon them out the trash can and
use a turkey baster, and I haven't heard that be alleged,
then he is responsible that some women have done that.
So that's what I'm saying. So, and let's that's what
he's alleging, which he hasn't. Uh, then that's not what
we're talking about out in this situation where we tried
about Tyreek Hill, we're talking about he has sexual relations
and impregnated a couple of people. And so it doesn't
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matter what their motives were. They could have googled his
debt work right before he came over. He is still
the one responsible for making that baby with that person
on that day.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
And I'm not denying that. I'm not denying that's that.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Well, then we're good.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I'm talking about Okay, all right, So it is time
to wrap up another show of the Done There Have
Been That podcast once again.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
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Speaker 2 (44:28):
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Speaker 1 (44:40):
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Speaker 2 (44:41):
We're gonna start We're gonna start reading some of the
comments at the beginning of each episode when we kind
of recap the last episode, but right before we go,
you know how we do it.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Our newest segment that we have is don't do that.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Don't do that? Got some stuff off our chest. Stop
doing that. Stop doing what you got this week?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Units all right, So this this has been a theme
for you and I, but I think it is a
theme for social media. Stop listening to defend versus comprehend.
I think we are in a world, in a society,
people read a headline and then they go in and
they don't really understand what is it we're talking about.
I mentioned it a little bit on our last episode
(45:18):
about people who misheard something I said, acknowledge they misheard it,
and still double down on it.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
So I would encourage people.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
The only way we're really going to grow as a world,
a country, a society, friendships, relationships, partnerships is to just
listen to understand what that person is saying, versus listening
to combat it with a retort or response to say,
oh wow, okay, I didn't know you felt that way.
Oh that's interesting. No, no, no, that on is like
see you not listening. So I see it mostly on
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social media where people just want to be loud and
wrong sometimes versus you know, let me just listen.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I can learn something sometimes Okay you said.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
So I know, right, No, stop doing that, Just stop it.
When it comes to social media, and the responses out there.
You can say what you want to about me. I
don't care. I'm a big boy. I got a tough skin,
thick skin, so you can come for me and say
all you want to.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Just don't say personal stuff out of place.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
If I'm talking about a sports team and I make
an opinion about something, you don't know me to call
me out of my name and say things. Don't say
things on social media that you would never freaking say
to my face. Because in the entire time that I've
been on the air in twenty nine years, all the
phone calls, the letters I used to receive, the emails,
all the social media posts, all the hate and this
(46:38):
thing that I get out there and to bitch y'all,
I have not had.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
One person ever and I'm not knock on woods.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
I'm not asking for it to come to me and
say any of that stuff that they say on most
social media to my face.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
And I know they're out there, but they've never said it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So if you can't say it to my face, try
not to say it on social media, especially if it's personal. Now,
if you disagree with what I have to say and
you want to come back, that's fine and please. Bottom
line is I won't clap back, I won't see anything.
Usually I'll just block and keep it moving. But if
you say something out of line about mine, my children,
or my family members who didn't ask to be brought
(47:13):
into this, don't get hurt. I'm not threatening violence, I'm
not saying that. I'm not condoning violence. But if you're
asking for it, you can get it. Just like my
man Martha Spears had to put out some on social
media about his sister getting it or whatnot. Don't get
it twisted. Don't let the light skin in the suit
and top fool you. All right, I am from best
in Alabama.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
Bottom line, stop doing that, y'all. Stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
You can disagree with somebody without attacking them personally. That
would be a wonderful part for us everybody takes.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Stop doing that, all right? Stop doing that?
Speaker 4 (47:46):
No done that, been there, We've been all over today.
I always enjoy our moments. Thank you guys so much
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Uh, it's coming out Wednesday, So I got a stand
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Y'all.
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It's time for another tantalizing episode of Done there Been That.
I'm Unis Elliott.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Mike Hill. Tantalizing. I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We have been tantalizing a little bit over the last
couple of weeks, the first two weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Happy to be here with your Eunis.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I'm super excited to be back here with you again.
Mike shout out to everybody who has been listening to
the podcast. We're just in week three, so that means
we are just getting started. I have been enjoying the feedback,
positive and negative. I will say overwhelmingly positive. As far
as hey, we enjoy these kind of conversations. The negatives
I handled in might stop doing that last week, what
(00:49):
about you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's a thing about the negatives, the negatives of code
the territory too, because a lot of times when you
have an opinionated show, people aren't going to agree with you,
and they have a certain way of telling you they
they don't agree with it. So I'll look at the
negative as somebody like you got your opinion, your opinion
ain't really worth it down, but you still have rights
to your opinion. But like you said, I focus on
the positives too, because I've had a lot of people
(01:11):
that have come up to me just out of the blue. Ay,
I love your podcast with you and you and this
y'all killing and keep on doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So that's just two weeks in, so let's keep this
thing rolling.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And I understand we actually, I think Inflection Entertainment of
Network likes us because now we got our own YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Now we have our own YouTube channel, We do done,
there have been that make sure you subscribe, so that way,
if you're not just driving listening to us, you can
also see us.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I feel like over the last couple of weeks and
people that don't understand our background, we actually had a
conversation about this. I'm just gonna let people behind what
do they call that the curtain a little bit. The
two of us have been knowing each other for over
twenty five years, but a lot of people don't know
that we don't know each other like that because we
don't conversate a talk over a period of time. We
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have just known each other for a long period of
time in places here and there. So I think some
people may look at the back and forth that we
have and misconstrued. We might even misconstrued a little bit too,
but we had a conversation about that, and I just
want to let everybody know that Eunis is a phenomenal woman.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
She is talented as hell. I am so proud of her.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And just because we disagree sometimes does not mean that,
you know, we don't care for each other. I don't care,
which I don't know if she says to her friends,
but I tell my friends that, yeah, she's still she's.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Still my people.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
What Mike said, I think, you know what, I think
people aren't well versed in healthy discourse, and so I
think a lot of times, especially on social media, whenever
someone shares an opinion, people don't I don't think have
a grasp on the art of being able to have
a healthy discourse, meaning I might not agree with you,
(02:51):
but I'm not going to attack you personally, I'm not
going to be offended. I'm a very empathetic person, so
I can usually understand everybody's point of view, even though
I have mine, and it doesn't mean I agree with you.
I can say I understand why you feel that way.
I don't feel that way, but I see how you
came to that. And I'm not going to argue with
anybody about their feelings. But anyway, talking about feelings, yes,
(03:14):
talking about feelings, talking about emotions, talking about mental health.
I think nowadays it's less of a stigma, but we
have been so far behind addressing mental health and I
think sometimes when you even use the term I need
to focus on my mental health, people think something's wrong.
When that doesn't necessarily mean something's wrong. It's just like
if you said you were going to the gym, it
doesn't mean you're sick. It just means you're working on
(03:36):
your physical health. So we're going to talk about mental
health a little bit right now with our first topic,
which is Draymond Green. He has been suspended and by
the NBA for is the suspension for the last offense
or do you is it an accumulation of offenses?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Why he has been fore.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
An accumulation This is the reason why he got suspended
in death. Draymond Green has had several suspensions throughout his career,
including in the NBA Finals, He's been ejected out of
three games out of the fifteen case he's played. One
time he got suspended earlier this year for choking Rudy Gobert,
and then the last one Usef Nurkish, where he just
basically turned around and beat hit not the hell out
(04:19):
of him, just for simple purposes there. So yes, it's
an accumulation of his past behavior the reason why he's
been suspended. And definitely now there's a report that came
out today that said that he might be out up
to three to four weeks because he has started counseling
and he understands that his behavior can't continue to go
if he wants to continue to play in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So that's the start, and.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that's all we can hope for any of us
is that we recognize there is a challenge or an issue,
and that we seek things that can help us adjust
those challenges. I think what's interesting about Draymond's situation though,
and it's how it segues into life. I've seen people,
you know, say that, well, just because he's like that
(05:01):
in a game doesn't mean he has a problem or
that he needs to get counseling. Some people say some
people are just fiery and competitive. I have known athletes
who have been ordered to get anger management by their
team because there's a fine line, or there isn't such
a fine line. Everybody out there that's an athlete, you're competitive,
you're hungry, you can taste the blood in the water.
You want to finish him. I think that's all understood.
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It crosses that line, though, and I think what's concerning
to me about Draymond and it makes me curious about
how does he handle challenges and frustrations personally ain't my business.
I will make no assumptions. But when you have already
been ejected, got as many technicals, you know the eyes
are on you anyway for your behavior. If you can't
control yourself in the next moment, in front of an audience,
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in front of a crowd, in front of TV cameras,
it makes you wonder, like, how is he handling his
challenges in private?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
M Yeah, well we also saw it.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But does it not make you under.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That certain things that he's handling even behind closed doors,
even when he's not on television. I mean, remember he
got suspended by his team just last year for knocking
the hell out of pool, you know, his teammate who's.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
No longer at practice right at practice in the video.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I mean like people in his life, like family members, Yeah,
like in private you know, is he the guy that
you don't want to play cards with because he's gonna
be ready to fight everybody at the party. Like, I'm curious,
how does that translate in his personal life outside of basketball.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
We haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I mean, from what I understand, I've been around Draymond
a little bit. I can't say I know him, but
I think we know of each other, and he's always
been cool. I think he just has this switch that
kind of comes on when he's in the heat of competition.
We see it when it comes to entertainer sometimes. You know,
people like beyoncey Prince, they were introverts. Prince was an introvert.
Beyonce he's an introvert, but when she gets on stage,
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she becomes Sasha Fierce and she gets into that moment.
I think with Draymond, like you mentioned, there's a competitive
spirit that he has that people he needs. He needs
that edge because although he's a great player and he's
good to his team, he's not an All Star or
All Pro caliber player, so he has to play with
that edge.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
But when it goes over.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The line where it starts not affecting just you, but
affecting your teammates and you're not available to your team,
then it's a little bit too far.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But we're talking about that edge.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So as a person that we've been here before, we
have different personalities. I know you have a personality of
your own, especially when you got into the broadcast industry
as a TV morning anchor. We've both been in situations where,
just like you was talking about Draymond, there are people
that want him to play with their fire. But where
is that line? And when people are trying to control you,
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how far do you allow them to control you? Because
I know I got plenty of stories over my twenty
nine year career, but I'm curious to know because you
came into the broadcast world and you were in Birmingham, Alabama,
and I'm pretty sure that when you got there as
a black girl in Birmingham, Alabama, even though it was
in a two thousands and whatnot, there was still viewers
out there that saw this beautiful, pretty little black girl
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with natural hair on the air and you may have
gotten some pushback because this is your style, this is
your edge, this is your personality, but your bosses are
telling you, hey, we need you to be a little
bit more of this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How did you handle that?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I will say I was fortunate and that it didn't
come from my bosses. It only came from the viewers.
Now I have colleagues in the business who have had
it come from their bosses, where like, hey, wear your
hair this way, or wear a wig, you know, if
you were natural or something. That's not my personal experience,
but the viewers would often let me know how they preferred.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I look.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It might be I don't like you in that color.
Oh you look horrible in that dress, you know, And
I think anybody that's fair game, right. So I never
really had an issue with it personally. But I tell
younger students and journalism especially, you know, if you're good,
they'll figure out how to accept what they're not used to.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
If you're great at your job, they.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
May have never seen anything like it, but it ain't
a conversation because I'm great at this. So I think
that helped me a lot in that I was brought
in as a personality hire, even though I had a
journalism degree, and even though I had this background in communications,
I had never been a TV news anchor before they
put me on the air, and so I think I
had that going for me in that I was there
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to be unique. And so sometimes it may have been
my hair. Sometimes it may have been my thought process,
it may have been a joke, it may have been
my take on a situation.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So that's not my personal situation. Now.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The viewers, they would call, they would send Facebook messages.
But the only time I ever had my company in
my last company talked to me was when there was
a lot of racial unrest in the country, and on
my personal social media I was sharing stories and situations
about black people being unjustly harassed or murdered by police,
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and some of the white viewers took exception and start
calling me a racist, bigot and calling the station and
things like that, you know. So even and when they
would talk to me about what I was sharing on
my personal page, I would say, I don't know that
you can regulate that, and being black is a human
interest story, you know, so you wouldn't say anything to
me if I was posting about rescuing a puppy or
if I was talking about cancer treatments. You can't say
(10:14):
something to me when I talk about being black in America. So,
but that's probably the only time they ever tried to
call me at the office completely, if you're not counting
the time they called me in the office and I quit.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Other than that, never really got talked to about anything.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Oh, look, they called you in the office and you quit.
I got to hear that story.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well, that's the only reason I quit my job.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I did a comedy sketch and they were upset
that I didn't ask for approval or get approval, And
I explained to them, why would I get approval from you?
You pay me to exclusively be your TV anchor. But
I do stand up, I do you know, I write books,
I do all these different things. And they wrote me
up for doing all the different things, and at that point,
I said it was probably time for me to go.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, that's interesting because I've been in several situations like
that before myself. When I was I knew it was
time to get out of military. When certain people are
trying to tell me certain things or call me certain
names out of my name. Even though it was an
airmen you cannot treat me like I'm not a man,
and that was a big issue, so I knew it
was time for me to get out of there. That's
interesting that you say that, because throughout my career I've
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had several people and we know how it is when
you have these consultants who come in, especially these news stations,
and their job is basically to tell you what sucks
about you.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
What's wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And remember the consultants would not have a job unless
they can find something wrong with you. So they got
to find something wrong with you. It could be my mustache.
Do you necessarily have to have facial hair? Yeah, I
need to have facial hair. I want to be a
black man. You know it's okay. Oh do you have
to sound like this? Do you have to say certain
words like this? How about this? Do you fix your
hair a certain way? I know a lot of female
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colleagues get that. Female colleagues get that all the time
or whatnot. I call them insultants because it is their
job to insult you. But it doesn't just stop there.
Like you said, a lot of times, the viewers can
say certain things. But even when I was at ESPN,
I remember I got there.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Unit's I'm from Bestment, Alabama. I have a certain style.
I'm a black man, I'm a black journalist.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Whatnot.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
When I was in Dallas, I got fired because of that.
I was asked, do you want to be a sports caster?
Do you want to be a black sports caster? By
my boss being there, it was hard. Yeah, I've been
there ESPN. I remember I got there and I had
a certain style. This is the way I am well
I talked. They told me, hey, you want the reason
you're not moving up is because you're too ghetto. This
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is what a talent coordinator told me. He said, the
reason why you're not moving up is because you're too ghetto.
And we already have one of them. And this is
when the great Stewart Scott was already there. So I
can understand. There is a part of you that wants
to be free. But at the end of the day,
just like in the NBA of the NFL, there are codes,
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there are ethics, there, standards.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Is their way. They always say it's not it's not
what do they say? It is not a.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Right to play in the NFL or the NBA. It's
a privilege, And I think in some of these companies.
It's the same way. Not to say it is right,
but I lost myself because of that. So when it
comes to Draymond Green, there is a line that he
cannot cross because once again, it's not just hurting him,
but he's hurting the image of the league, hurting the
image of the Golden State Warriors. While I still want
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that fiery play, he's got to find out what is
the compromise so that he can play the way he
wants to play and be the man that he wants
to be. Like you said, we don't hear anything off
the court, which is a great thing, but at the
same time, you got to find out where that line
is and make sure you don't cross it. People like
me sometimes I'll get that line and I'll move that
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shit up like two be.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Move it up.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But I think even in Draymond's case, so I think
when we're talking about our expenses with an image consultant,
I remember one time an image consultant came in and
he saw my hair, my natural hair out and he
stopped the tape at the video and he says, are
you good enough to get away with his hair?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
That I am?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Continue he as was not good enough to get away
with it, you know. But but but you know, I
feel like that kind of goes more in the line
of they used to try to mandate what the athletes
wore for travel or for arrival, and you see they
kind of have backed off that everybody's got their own style.
They realize, hey, we don't need to tell the guys
they got to wear a collared shirt. College is still
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do it a bit to try to manage that. But
as far as Draymond, I think the line that I
don't think is that blurry that he keeps crossing is
you can't punch people.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah you can't, Ki.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I don't think that's up for a lot of interpretation.
I think it's hey, stop hitting people.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Stop doing that. We'll put Draymond and I stopped doing
that segment. Stop choking people, Draymond, Dang, you play too rough.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And I do believe that there is that once again,
like we want to support Draymond because we see that
edge and like you, like you mentioned, I think there
are certain things that you can get away with when
you're not on somebody's air, when you're not on somebody's court,
which I mean the NBA air, meaning the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
If you're playing pick up.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Basketball, we see that all I see fights all the
time pick up basketball.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
What are you saying if you're all the time in
hockey in.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hockey, but you know what that But they say that's
part of the game in high right, which I always
think is always that double standard. Because I'm not even
gonna go down that rabbit hole because I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Be called I saw the rabbit in the hole before
you at you.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Saw you already know where I'm going. But everybody out
there understands where I want to go with that.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But when it comes to certain leagues, when it comes
to certain organizations, like I said, there's a standard.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
We want you to be yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We want you to give that fiery attitude, we want
you to bring that passion. But when your passion crosses
the line, it's too much. When your personality crosses the
line is too much. I know we were both doing STA.
You've been doing stand up longer than I have. I
know certain things that I say on that stage. I
can't take that shit to fond sports.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I can't So I know I know where that limitation is,
and so as somebody that I as a fan of
Draymond Greens and a fan of anybody else who has
that kind of fiery attitude, like even Dennis Robbin back
in the day, I hope he can find it because
he's too valuable not to be on the court for
his basketball team right now.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And let me say something about athletes specifically, and I
would say transferable ideas, like you know, we can't say
what we say on stage in different settings. But a
lot of times athletes, especially if they've been athletic from
middle school, high school, college pros, they don't realize that
their colleagues and teammates they interact with them totally different
(16:38):
than people interact with people. And I've seen athletes kind
of offend people because you can be talking so much
trash to your teammate. You can call him names because
it's a fun rapport. We're talking trash. You say that
to just somebody at the bank, it's like, oh my gosh,
he just told me to get out of face. You
could say that to your teammate, that's gone, you know
(17:00):
what I'm saying. So it's sometimes it's those little moments
where it's like, hey, you're in a unique situation where
you guys go back and forth. You have this engagement,
you talk a certain way, you can trash talk. You're
on the same team, you love each other. But how
many fights do you get in football practice a day, thirteen, fifteen,
twenty five. But their teammates, it's because they're passionate, they're fiery.
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Maybe somebody covering them, maybe somebody you know, tackle them
too hard or whatever. But sometimes those communication tactics don't
transfer into just everyday world and people one time and
this is really dating me, but y'all, no, I'm grown
and sexy. But back when I was at ESPN, well yeah,
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but this was a thousand years ago at ESPN. John
Elway came up to ESPN for something, and everybody was
so excited, the great John Elway, and everybody's kind of
around him.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And the one thing I will.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Never forget is he was talking and at some point
he licked his hand and.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Rubbed his arm. I was disgusted.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Okay, now, an NFL quarterback, that's they licked their hands like,
but regular people don't just lick your hand. He's standing
there talking, don't keep in mind. I'm watching everybody's hands.
He's shaking, and I'm like, his hand.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He licked his hand.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It was like he was trying to like maybe get
something off his arm or something. But it wasn't even
a thought for him. But I've seen, you know, the
quarterbacks lick their hands before they called for the ball,
you know, behind it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because they want to get a better grip on the football.
We get that. I don't know what kind of grip.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You, but I would never forget it. When he did that,
I was like, did he just lick his hand?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Did I shake it? Had he licked it before?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I shouldn't, but those are little things that if he
licked his hand on the football field, it would not
be a thought. Nobody wouldn't think anything about it. But
you said it in a TV studio, licking your hand.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I don't know. I was bothered.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But anyway, I've been doing the fist bump long before COVID.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So that's when that's safe.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
The bathroom when I washed their hands, and.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm sure it was probably yeah, it was a dude, right, Well,
I wouldn't the man tell I had it? Well, you
know some places have unisex restrooms forty forty has unisex restrooms,
you know. But I remember I dated a guy once
who introduced this idea at one of my company functions.
He was like, do y'all wash your hands every time
y'all go to the bathroom, because if I didn't get
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that on my hands, I don't want And I was
really sitting there like, wait, what is happening?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So everyone does you didn't touch anything here? Like, hey,
let me just take it out.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Hey, okay. I don't know how he was working that out.
It was a thing.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Okay, Mike, so anyway, but it's it's things in sports
that don't transfer spitting, Like, it's a lot of things
that just happened in the context of.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Sports talking about well you can't anybody.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Come on quit playing.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Athletes say come on, let's get it, get some hustle,
and its it's not a thing. But I'm saying, you
wouldn't do that if you weren't playing, you wouldn't just spit,
or you wouldn't you know. So it's a lot of
things that athletes do at work that do not transfer
into just being a human in polite, proper society. Yeah,
and you know, Draymond is not okay to choke nobody nowhere.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You can't choke nobody. No, well, depending on where you
can choke it, and you can get away. But somebody going
to come.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You see how you always you in these rabbit holes. Come.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I'm just saying, if somebody deserve to be choked, then
I get it. Somebody deserve to be punched, I get it.
But Jordan Poole, from what I understand, didn't do He
just talked. So anyway, Yeah, Draymond, what he's doing is
way over the line.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm oh the look, we're happy he's getting counseling. And
you don't have to get suspended to get counseling. Counseling
is a wonderful tool for any and everybody who has
a brain or a cart for a mind.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
He understands he needs to get so.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So once again, like you started this whole conversation, we're
gonna move on.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Mental health is a real thing. Does it mean that
you're crazy?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Doesn't mean that you're you're a bad person. Mental health,
when you go get therapy, means that you want to
make yourself a better person. I don't think anybody's called
Draymond Green a bad person because, like you mentioned, I'm
glad you brought up. We haven't heard anything about off
the court issues with him, just on the court behavior
whatever that needs to be addressed. So if he's going
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to therapy to make himself a better person, I think
all of us could do the same because no one
I know, I don't know about your units is perfect,
and we all need to do something that we can
do to better ourselves so that we can better ourselves
around other people as well.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, and I think there's always been a stigma around
therapy and counseling, particularly for African Americans. They like pray
about it, go to church, and then particularly for African
American men. So hopefully this might be some great, wonderful
opportunity for Draymond to kind of be a champion, you know,
go through the processes, learn institute more, you know better
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tools to deal with frustrations, and be an inspiration to
everybody to you know, figure out, hey, Okay, I have
these triggers and I'm not might not be handling the
best way either. It worked for him, maybe it can
work for me. So hopefully we will see a win
win win situation. From his challenge.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So here's something I hope doesn't trigger you as we
move on.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Oh god, the word trigger triggers me.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Actually, don't allow triggers to trigger you. Take away the triggers,
then you want to have the triggers.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Just don't say trigger. Just don't say trigger.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You know who Keda Vaccaro is. She is the wife
of Tyreek Hill from the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I don't know her personally.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Could be the NFL's MVP this year, having a phenomenal season.
Great though his off the field, it ain't like he
just got married, applaud that whatnot. And his wife is
very supportive of him. But Tyreek, I understand, just got
hit with two paternity suits by women that are claiming
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that he has given them babies.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Obviously he's paying them, understand.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
The report lead twenty five hundred dollars a month, and
the babies were both born this year and he's been engaged.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Now, I'm not gonna get too far into that man's
business about his relationship that he has with Keith of
Cairo and how.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Okay, let's see let me see what you have. Don't say,
let me see what you have to say all.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
All I'm saying is like, if you're in that situation,
how do you handle that?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Units?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean like, because obviously she got married, she still
supported him. As a matter of fact, when he got
injured last week, he said, the reason he went back
into the game, and I thought about this. It made
me think a little bit. He said he went back
into the game because he said his anchor was hurting
really bad. And he texts his wife then and said, hey,
it's hurting really bad. And she said, you need to
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get your ass back in that game. And made me think, okay, well, yeah,
you need to get your ass back in the game,
because she basically saying, you need to go make that
money so you can pay these women over here. You
get also hold on to me like he is under
the fourth year under the twenty million dollar contract out
to Tyreek Hill. If you got it, you can handle it,
and you're paying for m do your thing. But here's
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a question, and this is going to stay.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Did
you say if you can pay it and you handling it,
do your thing?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
If you if you can if you can pay it,
you handling it, and your wife. I can't say. I
ain't gonna say nothing. Who am I to say anything
about that?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's not my that's.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
My personality, So I can't. So whatever they got arranged,
that is totally on them. Now, I know most women,
I know what you know. But then also I don't
know a lot of women that's married to a man
that's making a hundred and twenty million dollars. I'm just
saying it. Could I think a lot of times.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Okay, So now all of this.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying you or
any of your friends. I'm saying I.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Been about me.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about Tyree. So
here's here's my question. And your introducing even the story,
you started out by talking about his wife, you even
called her by name. But this is not his wife's story.
This is a Tyreek hell story. But what people, society,
social media they do is they think, well, why would
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this woman marry him? Why is this woman saying staying
with him? We don't focus on the hymn that has
created this scenario. So this is actually a Tyreek heal story.
This isn't a Tyreek Hill's new wife story. This is
a Tyreek Kale story. He has three children with an ex.
He has these two new children. None of his five
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children are from his current wife. But even though he's
been with her, they've been engaged since like twenty twenty
one or so. So this is a Tyreek Hill story.
Because whether it's the new wife, whether it's one of
the two new baby mamas, or even the first baby mama,
you have to have some kind of understanding that Tyreek
Hill has probably not been honest with everyone in real time?
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Could we agree that that's probably true? Yeah, well, you know,
I'm asking, I'm just asking.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm asking.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Can we all say Tyreek probably has not been truthful
with if not one, if not two, if not three,
if not four of these women can say?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Because not definitively, because I don't know the arrangements with people,
like and that's where I was going.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
But just as a as a human, just as a.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Human thinking, I would think there has been some deception
there at one time or another.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I said, that's all okay, So that's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
So when people the women, they're like, why would she Well,
he's deceiving himself by making poor choices, Okay, and he
has to have probably again probably allegedly. I would assume
he has not been one hundred percent honest with his fiance.
I would assume he has not been one hundred percent
honest with either of these baby mamas who just had
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babies this year. And then it gets turned onto the women.
A lot of the headlines were like, you know, these
two baby mamas want their child support increase, and then
the gold digger labels start getting thrown out and all
those things, and it's like, but still, this is not
their story. This is Tyreek Hill's story, a situation that
Tyreek Hill created, a situation that financially, Tyreek Hill is
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being responsible for.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
These women are pretty inconsequential to the.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Whole story because guess what if it wasn't baby Mama
number one, two, or three, you would still have Tyreek
Hill making these type decisions and choices, there would be
three other women, because it's a Tyreek Hill story.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
His my response now for his wife, his wife, I understand.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Once again, I feel like in all of this, maybe
she's the one that you feel a little sorry for, because,
like you said, maybe there was aception.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Maybe Tyreek has that kind of relationship where he's like, hey,
you know I'm doing this. You know what kind of
person night? I got five kids already. My name is
the Cheetah. I mean, that's my nickname. So maybe that
just isn't just because I'm fast. I'm just saying I
don't know. I'm just saying, look at you, not that
I'm speaking about that, because you know, I'm not talking
about my bads.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
But anyway, so when it comes to it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I was gonna say talking about triggered, you talk about
triggered who in this story?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I'm not triggered. I'm not triggered about I understand. I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't answer to every label that it's I'm called,
but I understand I want one, always one.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Here's the thing. But when I look back, so we're
talking about who's to blame here or who's been deceived.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Not even who's to blame. It's not even about who's
the blame because I don't think this is about a
blame thing. Who's responsible for creating this scenario? Okay, who's
responsible for creating the scenario?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Who is overall?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Because he is the one. Obviously, he's the one that
common denominated.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
He's the common denominator in all these women's lives.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He's the one that married his wife.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He's the one that got these other legedly because I
don't I don't know if they had a paternity test.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What everybody I p's.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
They have an opperternity test. That's why he's paying the
twenty five hundred dollars a month. But now he wants
to dispute them, but go on.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So that could be court ordered and all that type
of stuff like that. And I understand he's signed a
four year UNDERD twenty million dollars. Okay, So what we
were talking about last week, So when it comes to deception,
there has to be and we're talking about cheats because
I actually had this conversation the other day. People want
to know women are always wearing a white man cheat.
I'm like, okay, well, there are numerous reasons why a
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man cheats. Maybe the question that needs to be asked
is what can stop a man from cheating?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Oh that's a really good question. That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Now let me ask you that question based on our question,
can you stop a man from cheating?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah? You know, how you can stop a man from cheating,
not you being cheated on? Well, that's one thing. Cut
it off, which continue to jail for a long period
of time?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Will lets you live in one of those countries that
allow you to cut it off if he's done something wrong.
I understand that, But how do you stop a man
from cheating on you? There is also another party that's involved.
So while a lot of the heat goes to the man, right,
while a lot of the heat goes to the man
because he deserves the heat, he's responsible, he's accountable, there
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is another side of the equation that allows him to
cheat if there was not that side, And I'm not
blaming them, so stop by No people want to come,
But if they also got the heat, the women who
are the side chicks or the women who know? If
you know no, you've seeing shake your head. You ask
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me the question, So I'm giving you the answer.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
There is the other side.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
So if you can stop that from happening and also
put the heat on them as well, maybe maybe it
would maybe it would decrease.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Let me ask you a question. If a man cheats,
who is responsible for him cheating?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's the man. He's ultimately responsible. Once again, he's the
common denominator. It's the woman. It's the woman or the
man whoever decides to cheat. They are responsible. They need
to take accountability.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay, well, you were.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Talking about the side chicks make it, make it available
to cheat. You're saying these women out here who make
themselves available to men who are in committed relationships. And
so I was trying to see where you offering some
responsibility on the cheating, on the women that they're cheating
with or the men they're cheating with, whoever is the
other person, do they bear responsibility? But how could that
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person who's not in the relationship be responsible for what
you do in your relationship.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Because your part is almost like if you're you're you're
an accomplished in a sense.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Like okay, so, but.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
What responsibility does a person who's not in a relationship
have to a relationship they're not in.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
What responsibility would they they bear a hole for that?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying no.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Look, so I understand a lot of people who become
the side piece or whatever. I'm ain't gonna say, side
check you, side piece, whatever. They don't feel like that's
part of cheating. They don't feel like that's their cheaters
or whatnot, right, So I get that, But there is
a bit of responsibility. If you know that person is
in a relationship, if you know that person is married,
if you know that person is committed in some kind
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of way, that person bears some responsibility in a sense,
not as much as the person who is actually cheating,
but there is some responsibility.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Because you know why, that would not stop a man
from cheating taking the other person out of the way,
because they'll find it there. Okay, So because then if
they are a cheater, they will find someone else. You're
not gonna eradicate the entire world of every option, right,
So you might know that this person wants your husband,
You might know that this woman right here wants my man,
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And you know that this is this woman, and you
get her taken care of however, you do it legally,
otherwise I won't ask questions. That is not going to
stop that man from cheating. If he's a cheater, he's
gonna cheat with somebody else. So you can't stop a
man from cheat. There's nothing a woman can do, sort
of murdering the dude that it can stop somebody who
is going to cheat, just like a man can't stop
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a woman who's gonna cheat if someone cheats. What I'm
saying is, if someone cheats, they are going to cheat.
If someone doesn't cheat, they don't cheat. And that means
it could be a naked woman laying on the couch.
They're gonna say, girl, cover yourself up and get out.
What I'm saying to you is the person this, the
side person has no responsibility in that cheaters relationship. How
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could they if we use Tyreek Hill's situation. I don't
know the two women he had babies with this year.
Do I think they knew he had a fiancee? Potentially
because I think they've been a public couple since at
least twenty twenty one. Do I think if they said, Hey,
I saw your Instagram and who's this girl?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Who's this woman?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Can we imagine a world where a man says, yeah,
that's not that or, as you say, misrepresent themselves. Can
we imagine a world that may have potentially happened and
two women ended up getting pregnant by him in the
same year having babies. Guess what everybody in the world
could say, Hey, I wanted a baby, my baby's gonna
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be well taking care.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I win.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Again, everybody has different motivating factors in their lives. At
the end of the day, there was only one pen
involved and so that is the pain responsible.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
So he takes all the heat, all the responsibilities. So
like you, we did the podcast last week talking about
how much you know, you said googling. People google all
the time and this and get your information. Girl, There's
no way in the world that these women did not
know this man was in a relationship engaged since twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
There's no way.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
And so let's say they knew he was engaged and
he still had sex with him and he got them pregnant. Again,
that is one hundred percent on him. That is one
hundred percent on him that he got these women pregnant. Either,
they discussed wanting to have babies together. Everyone knows how
to make a baby. So I'm saying to you, if
I'm the multi million dollar man with a fiance or
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a wife and whatever, and I don't want to have babies,
I'm the one that can make sure I don't have babies.
And I don't want to go into the science of it,
but I would know how to not make a baby.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Mm okay, So I'm just saying I'm not saying I'm
not disagreeing and saying that it's not the person's fault.
Not disagreeing.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Well, I'm not even saying fault. I'm saying he created
this scenario. He created the scenario.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Which we said one hundred you said one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
It is responsible.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Responsible is difference in fault because everybody could be happy
this we're on the outside. We don't know if both
of these women are happy. We don't know if we
don't know them, So fault makes it seem like someone's wrong.
I'm saying he's responsible for this scenario.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So one hundred percent responsible for that person. Okay, Okay,
I disagree.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah, he's responsible for the scenario.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yes, I disagree. I disagree as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You know what, here's the thing, So we're gonna we're
gonna start a poll if you, if you believe in yous,
are saying that the person who keeps is one hundred
percent responsible for whatever happens after that person.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
That's good. If there's another party's involved, not saying that
it's got to.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Be fifty to fifty. It might be ninety ten, It
could be eighty. But there is another party that's also responsible.
If I know you're going to rob a bank and.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I'm like, hey, I'll drive, and I'll drive you after
you Robbie Bank, and I still take you home afterwards.
Am I an accomplished? Am I going to use there?
I'm not responsible because I didn't rob the bank.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
But that's that's that's not really the greatest.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Analogy for this situation because as far as the standards
of the law, that's the standard that has been set
by the law that if you, uh, if you break
into my house and your two people break into my
house and the homeowner shoots the person that I came
in with, I'm gonna get charged with that person's murder.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So that's the standards that the law has set. Saying
to you is what I'm saying to you is when
a person cheats, it might be five people they cheated with,
it might be one person, It might be a person
they ain't even met yet did they looking to cheat with?
The cheater is one hundred responsible for the cheating. Now,
whoever they cheat with, it's collateral damage that they knew
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or they didn't know. But either way, they made no
commitment to anybody in that relationship. The person who's cheating
made a commitment we were married or we're engaged, and
maybe we've had a conversation of exclusivity is assumed. And
again we're assuming they have agreed to exclusivity.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
They maybe have not. That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's not a fault thing because everybody in the storyline
might be happy with their lot in life.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
We're just saying from the outside looking in, it sounds messy.
It sounds messy to have two babies in the same
year from two different women, that marry a different woman
and have three kids with another woman. Sounds messy. But yes,
what everybody might be happy in their situation. We don't
know that. But is the person who is impregnating people
responsible for impregnating people? Yes, one hundred percent responsible who
are impregnating people?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
No? No, no, no, So we're on two different things.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, cheating, cheating, too impregnate, cheating, too impregnate, cheating. Okay,
just so, these probably are not the only two women
he's cheated with. I don't know this man, but let's
just say these are just the two that had babies
this year, right, And so what I'm saying is, yes,
Tyreek is one hundred percent responsible for who he puts
his penis in. That's who the penis is being put in.
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They're there for whatever they there for. But it's too
many distances and Houston Sports. No, No, I'm not saying they.
I don't see no assault or cases. So I'm assuming
they said yes willfully. So that's not the question. I've
worked with a lot of athletes, and a lot of
those athletes have had baby mama drama or girlfriend drama
or stalker troubles and all the things. Right, But when
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you are put in a certain position in your life
where you're making millions and millions of dollars because you're
really great at something, you have to move mentally into
a different space to handle yourself in a more responsible
manner because you have so much to lose. So I'm
saying he is one hundred percent responsible for this scenario,
and it's unfortunate that the women will take the heat.
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Why does she marry him or what they gold diggers
whatever versus this young man is not taking great care
of his of this unique gift he has, or the
finances he had, and again they all might be happy
as a lark, you know, Nick Cannon and all his babies.
They're presented as if we all wanted babies we all
knew about, you know, so they present that like they're happy.
They're happy, and.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
We don't know if that's the same kind of scenario.
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Okay, So let me back it up because you know,
like you said, I don't know the situation. Obviously his
wife knows the situation and she's cool with it. What
we don't know the whole thing that could have an
open relationship, so there's no cheating even involved could be
in this situation.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So let's go back real quick before we go too
far down this rabbit hole, because I don't think we're
gonna agree on the responsibility aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
The child support payments that he's making.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's giving them twenty five hundred dollars, which I even
say for a man that's averaging making about thirty million
dollars a year, that's low for any child.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
If you got a child, should be paying a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I paid that much for child school and I ain't
never made thirty milli dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
So I mean that ain't even paying the rent for
a studio in most places.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Okay, I understand that, but what's the responsibility of child's boys?
Child says now, One thing I will say about this
is that you pay for your child. You take care
and you support your child and make sure all the
needs the wants of the child schooling, they got the
best housing or whatever, make sure they got transportation, sheltered
and all that type of stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
It's what when you get into the murky period.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Of child support from a man or women's standpoint, because
women have to pay child support too. So let me
just throw that out there to make everybody feel inclusive.
There comes a point where you're saying, I will take
care of the child, but I'm not taking care of
all of your needs, meaning I'm not taking care of
your girls trip to the Caribbean. I'm not taking care
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of you and your man and the house that you
want just because y'all got a four bedroom and I
think that's big enough with me and you and my child.
You live by yourself, you don't necessarily need an eight
nine bedroom mansion that costs ten million dollars.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Whatnot.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Now, if you want that your lifestyle should be part
of your child's lifestyle, hopefully you have joint custody so
that that person can be a part of that lifestyle
at some point. So when it comes to the point
of like I'm seeing you drive and the fancy is luxuries, cars,
whatnot and all that type of stuff like that, it's
just there is a murky water period, a line that
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needs to be crossed when it comes to how much
you're supposed to give a person for that child support.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Support the child.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Okay, so here's the line about here, here's the argument
about child support. Okay, it's the difference between when you
take your car to get worked on. There's two different costs.
You're gonna have parts and labor. Child support is parts.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, you know I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So then when people argue over the amounts, there's labor
costs involved in the parts.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
So you might pay for your kid to.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Go to private school, Well, who's taking the kids to school,
who's feeding the kid every day, who's driving the kids
to school, who's picking the kid up when they got sick,
Who's taking the kid to practice, who's picking the kid
up from practice? So I'm saying there's a labor involved
in raising children that is outside of the parts. Right,
So somebody might say, I paid for this, I pay
for this, I pay for this, I pay for this
wonderful that's a blessing. I'm a child who grew up
(42:03):
without child support, but there was there's also labor involved.
Guess what if your child is with a custodial parent
and you're paying child support, that custodial parent has so
many more sacrifices and responsibilities than you have just for
sending a check. So there is a lot that is
involved in the cost of raising a child. And it's
not just a pack of diapers and some shoes.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well us, it's involved.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
In raising But I but you know, I don't have
children because I know how much that's the most important
thing anybody in the world will ever do, is raise children.
And so you can't you can't minimize that to a
dollar amount of this is what it costs to raise
a child.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
All I'm saying is there is a line that gets
crossed a lot of times, not with everybody, with certain
people that when they feel like this person's making that
child is not your check, that child is and they
treated that way. And I'm not saying these two ladies
in tweki those case whatever. I'm seeing a lot of
them all. But in a lot of ways, there are
(43:04):
women and men who treat children like that is their check,
like this is an eighteen year investment plan, and I
got them, and a lot of reasons why they get pregnant.
Some people get pregnant because they say, oh, I got him.
We've heard the stories before, I got his ass. That's
why what do you think they get So I'm not
even gonna go too far and rabbits running again.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
They can definitely say I got them.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
But the only way you can get somebody is if
they put their pain inside of you and ejaculate while you.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Are understand, he's responsible. So he's responsible for.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That way, go back to that.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, it doesn't matter what the woman's motive is, he's
still responsible for it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Okay, Okay, I got you, I got you, all right.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Unless she stoles upon them out the trash can and
use a turkey baster, and I haven't heard that be alleged,
then he is responsible that some women have done that.
So that's what I'm saying. So, and let's that's what
he's alleging, which he hasn't. Uh, then that's not what
we're talking about out in this situation where we tried
about Tyreek Hill, we're talking about he has sexual relations
and impregnated a couple of people. And so it doesn't
(44:06):
matter what their motives were. They could have googled his
debt work right before he came over. He is still
the one responsible for making that baby with that person
on that day.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
And I'm not denying that. I'm not denying that's that.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Well, then we're good.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I'm talking about Okay, all right, So it is time
to wrap up another show of the Done There Have
Been That podcast once again.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Follow us on social media.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Our YouTube channel now is at Done There Been That,
so you can send those comments. I'm really looking forward
to seeing what you guys are looking. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But we're gonna start doing that.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
We're gonna start We're gonna start reading some of the
comments at the beginning of each episode when we kind
of recap the last episode, but right before we go,
you know how we do it.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Our newest segment that we have is don't do that.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Don't do that? Got some stuff off our chest. Stop
doing that. Stop doing what you got this week?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Units all right, So this this has been a theme
for you and I, but I think it is a
theme for social media. Stop listening to defend versus comprehend.
I think we are in a world, in a society,
people read a headline and then they go in and
they don't really understand what is it we're talking about.
I mentioned it a little bit on our last episode
(45:18):
about people who misheard something I said, acknowledge they misheard it,
and still double down on it.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
So I would encourage people.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
The only way we're really going to grow as a world,
a country, a society, friendships, relationships, partnerships is to just
listen to understand what that person is saying, versus listening
to combat it with a retort or response to say,
oh wow, okay, I didn't know you felt that way.
Oh that's interesting. No, no, no, that on is like
see you not listening. So I see it mostly on
(45:46):
social media where people just want to be loud and
wrong sometimes versus you know, let me just listen.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I can learn something sometimes Okay you said.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
So I know, right, No, stop doing that, Just stop it.
When it comes to social media, and the responses out there.
You can say what you want to about me. I
don't care. I'm a big boy. I got a tough skin,
thick skin, so you can come for me and say
all you want to.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Just don't say personal stuff out of place.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
If I'm talking about a sports team and I make
an opinion about something, you don't know me to call
me out of my name and say things. Don't say
things on social media that you would never freaking say
to my face. Because in the entire time that I've
been on the air in twenty nine years, all the
phone calls, the letters I used to receive, the emails,
all the social media posts, all the hate and this
(46:38):
thing that I get out there and to bitch y'all,
I have not had.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
One person ever and I'm not knock on woods.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
I'm not asking for it to come to me and
say any of that stuff that they say on most
social media to my face.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
And I know they're out there, but they've never said it.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So if you can't say it to my face, try
not to say it on social media, especially if it's personal. Now,
if you disagree with what I have to say and
you want to come back, that's fine and please. Bottom
line is I won't clap back, I won't see anything.
Usually I'll just block and keep it moving. But if
you say something out of line about mine, my children,
or my family members who didn't ask to be brought
(47:13):
into this, don't get hurt. I'm not threatening violence, I'm
not saying that. I'm not condoning violence. But if you're
asking for it, you can get it. Just like my
man Martha Spears had to put out some on social
media about his sister getting it or whatnot. Don't get
it twisted. Don't let the light skin in the suit
and top fool you. All right, I am from best
in Alabama.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
Bottom line, stop doing that, y'all. Stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
You can disagree with somebody without attacking them personally. That
would be a wonderful part for us everybody takes.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Stop doing that, all right? Stop doing that?
Speaker 4 (47:46):
No done that, been there, We've been all over today.
I always enjoy our moments. Thank you guys so much
for listening.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
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Speaker 2 (48:02):
And on personal Instagram as well. I G Twitter at
it's Mike Kill. I ts Mike Kill and you just
got your own name, don't you.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
I'm just a government name on social media, a kind
of girl at Unice Elia on all socials. I'm very
easy to find. If it doesn't say obituary next to
Units is me.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I love it. I love it. Keep doing stand up.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
These Units is out here.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
I got a stand up coming up.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Uh, it's coming out Wednesday, So I got a stand
up performance on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Units. Hopefully you come check me out in Inglewood.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Okay, we'll send me any information
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